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April 24, 2021 122 mins

Jason McIntyre questions why the Ravens would be willing to help the Chiefs. Jason explains why Steph Curry is the MVP and why people need to stop being reluctant to accept his greatness. Injuries in the NBA are out of control this season. Jason puts the Super League in perspective and the discusses the least-talked about Oscars in decades!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Fox Sports. What is going on everybody?
It's me Jason McIntyre here Fox Sports Radio. A gorgeous
Saturday morning out in Los Angeles. Hope everybody's weekend is
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isn't He takes down two m VP candidates this week
gets back into the m v P race. That's always

(00:43):
a fun topic. We will talk about Steph Curry. I
do want to say, listen, it's impossible to not talk
on radio, TV, podcast, whatever you're doing about COVID and
the ability that things are opening up and you can
see human beings again. Before I get back into sports,
I just want to say I have I've had a
great week. I'm extremely thrilled that finally California and specifically

(01:09):
Los Angeles, we're opening up. I was able to um
go out for drinks with some dad's hashtag dad life
that I'm friends without here on back to back nights
this week, and that's a very rarity. And we did
run into an interesting one yesterday. I'll just put this
out there briefly. I did. I didn't put much of
it on social media because you just never know who's

(01:31):
gonna freak out. Sports fans are pretty universal in agreement
on this that, you know, we gotta get back to
our old lives a little bit, start going out a
little and um, I'm not coaching soccer this year. I
am being like that dad who helps and I go
to the practices and you know, I know all the kids.
It's a bunch of second graders. And so we take

(01:53):
the kids out to this restaurant after practice yesterday for dinner,
and then the dads of course, we'll have a couple
of beers and folks, I'm not making this up. You know.
The waitresses like, okay, so we have these outdoor tables,
but you can only seat six to a table. I
was like, well, we got nine girls, what do you
what do you want us to do? They're like, we'll

(02:15):
just put some of them over here. I was like, okay,
and we have seven dads, So do we have to
split up one dad at a table and six at
the other. And they're like yeah. So of course the
other dads show up and they're like, well, oh, we
could move the tables this way. And you know, the
dads are of course trying to kind of tell the
lady what to do, and she brings out her tape measure.

(02:35):
I'm not even making this up, Ryan, She brings out
her tape measure to make sure the tables are eight
ft apart CDC guidelines. And it was at that moment
that I was like, uh, so things are opening, but
we're not even close to normalcy and listen, ultimately, what, well,
we're not those jerky people who are like you've got
to just let us be. And every dad in our

(02:55):
group has been vaccinated. And it was just one where
we're like, oh, we're close to sports where we're really close,
but um, we still have a long way to go.
And I know, uh, Dodger stadiums open. Uh, some fans
are there staples. I have a buddy who went to
a game. He said there was no energy. It was
like small pockets of fans and they do pipe in noise,

(03:18):
but it's it's still not gonna be uh anytime soon
when Staples is rocking with like as we're seeing in
some other states full on fans and sports are back
to normal. Um, I just have to say, I can't
wait for it to happen. Like it's the sooner the
better we get back to some normalcy. And um, we

(03:40):
got back to a little bit of normalcy in sports yesterday.
I think yesterday afternoon a sizeable trade in the NFL.
And and listen, I know, you know it's out there.
It happened. You know, the people involved, not not any
not a star player but an offensive lineman. But folks,
what went down between the Chiefs and the Ravens. I
don't totally understand it. And it's been a full night.

(04:03):
Like I've I've thought about this, I've wrote out all
the permutations. Something doesn't add up. And and here's the problem. Okay,
we would all agree that the Kansas City Chiefs are
the class of the a f C. Right, nobody would
disagree with that. In the last three years since Mahomes
became the starter, a f C title game loss in
overtime to the Patriots at home win the Super Bowl

(04:26):
beating the forty Niners come back awesome game, and then
this past February they lose in the Super Bowl to Tampa.
So there's no discussion that the Chiefs are the class
of the a f C. Everyone is chasing Kansas City, right,
We've established that one of the teams chasing Kansas City
is the Baltimore Ravens. And here's a fun stat. Lamar

(04:48):
Jackson head to head against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs
is oh and three. Okay, the Ravens have you know,
I just said the Chiefs have been too Super a Bowl,
Super Bowl, an f C title game. In the last
three years, Patriots have gone lost in the first round.
Lamar was a rookie lost in the first round Tennessee

(05:09):
and then one um a game in the playoffs before
losing the next game. And uh, there's no way you
can argue this. The Baltimore Ravens are chasing the Kansas
City Chiefs, period, hard stop Like, that's a statement, that's factual.
So if you're chasing the Chiefs and you just watch

(05:31):
them in the Super Bowl without both starting tackles left
and right, Patrick Mahomes chased all night, beaten to a
pulp the most pressure any quarterback has faced in Super
Bowl history. According to the numbers, you know what the
Chiefs need. And if you look at their numbers, they
just paid Patrick Mahomes is big contract. He's making fifty

(05:52):
seven kazillion dollars, so they can't afford to pay tackles.
So what on earth is Baltimore do trading their right
tackle Orlando Brown to Kansas City? Why is Baltimore helping
the team? They're chasing it just on on, on the

(06:13):
every level possible. It does not add up. And I
know what you're saying, Oh, the Jason, They're just giving
him a right tackle. Well, yes, and no, Let's look
at the guy in question. Or Lando Brown. Okay, his
father was the guy named Zeus, the offensive lineman who

(06:33):
was very, very good. I believe he was All Pro.
A referee threw a flag on a play and accidentally
it went through Orlando Brown's his father. His face mask
hit him in the eye, temporary blindness. He had to
miss three seasons and then he passed away early. I
believe at the age of forty. The player in the
trade to the Chiefs is his son, Orlando Brown Jr.

(06:55):
And I know he's a right tackle, and he was
in Oklahoma and he's like, oh, this kid's in All American.
He's six. He was considered a first round pick. But
you know the story, right um, leading up to the
combine and everything, he just like eats his way out
of the first round, shows up out of shape, hasn't
been working out, overweight, falls to the third round, gets

(07:18):
to the NFL, gets his act together, becomes a starting
right tackle, and you know, could play left tackle. But
the Ravens are set there with Ronnie Stanley, and that's
the guy they're trading to Kansas City. A right tackle
who had played well above his contract was is in

(07:40):
line to get another big contract, and you're trading him
to a team you're chasing so you can give them
a left tackle because that's what's gonna happen here. Ultimately,
the Chiefs are gonna work out a deal with Orlando
Brown to play left tackle, and they just got gifted
a starter to protect Patrick Mahomes blindside. Like what am I?

(08:00):
What am I missing here? Why on Earth with the
Ravens do this? Now? I know I know you're gonna say, well,
look at all the draft picks they got. Wonderful they
got a late first round draft pick and a bunch
of others. We're not talking about a top ten here
pick pick here, guys like they didn't get some incredible
draft pick. So all of a sudden, you know, I
know Baltimore has some needs and they have their own issue, right,

(08:23):
they have to pay Lamar Jackson. He's in line for
big money. Now just how big money that is an
open question. He has won an m v P, but
he's accomplished way more than Dak Prescott. And Dak Prescott
just got forty mill per year. So Lamar Jackson's like, yo,
I gotta get mine. I know we need a receiver.

(08:45):
Don't care. I know we need this, that and the other.
I don't care. You guys figure it out, but pay
me my money. And it's it's such a weird offseason.
Dak really blew up the market by getting that money.
And now Josh Allen, Baker, May Yelled, and Lamar Jackson
are the next three chasing the big forty mill. Now,
Baker got his uh fifth year extension um that he picked.

(09:09):
They picked that up. Obviously we knew that was gonna happen.
We know Josh Allen's going to get a new contract.
But it's to see who blinks first, because whatever Lamar
Jackson gets, Josh Allen's gonna want a dollar more. That's
how these agents work. It's cd but that's the life,
you know, and Josh Allen's agent does not want to
go first and set a baseline for Lamar Jackson. So

(09:33):
the Ravens are working under the constraints we gotta pay
this guy. We gotta figure this out. And guess what
part of that is, Hey, we can't pay you Orlando
Brown the money you want. He wants to be paid
like a left tackle. Understandable, he's considered a left tackle,
but right tackles don't make the same as left do.
So there's so much to read into this trade. And

(09:54):
again I just don't understand, like how throughout the Deshaun
What's and discussion when he was up for trade, all
anybody wanted to say was you can't trade him in
the NFC. You don't want to have to see him
in the regular season and potentially playoffs. You've got to
get him out of the conference. And that's why Miami
was a leader, That's why the Jets were a potential

(10:15):
destination Ultimately, Carolina UM came back as a potential option,
but like, you don't want Deshaun Watson staying in the division,
in the conference, and Carolina made the most sense ultimately,
But Deshaun Watson had a can I call it a boondoggle?

(10:36):
I don't know, eighteen lawsuits uh from certain women who
were massage therapist. I had a deep dive on it
on my podcast Straight Fire this week with Mike Florio,
who is a lawyer and was able to answer a
bunch of questions about it. Bottom line, Watson ain't getting
dealt anytime soon. But if that's how Houston was operating,

(10:56):
we don't want to trade him obviously in the division,
we don't. We don't really he want to send him
to Miami. We don't want to send him to the Jets,
but they want him badly. We'd rather send him to
Carolina so we don't have to see him except in
the super Bowl or once every I think it's four
or five years when the UM when the schedule cycle.
But I'm puzzled by this move by the Ravens. You

(11:17):
don't want to help a team that all of a
sudden looked a little vulnerable I'm not gonna say Kansas
City was slipping. You know, there's a Chiefs team that's
still absolutely loaded. But just like Lamar Jackson and the
Ravens are gonna have to figure out a way to
circumvent the salary cap and retain talent, Chiefs are going
through that too. They're gonna have to pay this kid,

(11:38):
Orlando Brown. I believe Tyreek Hill's contract is coming up.
Several other stars and it's not easy personally, you know,
I don't want to sit here and waste time bashing
the salary cap. But yeah, this does feel a little
idiotic that the Ravens have to make this move. But
such as life in the NFL, and um speaking, in

(12:00):
the NFL, the draft is less than a week away.
We will do gambling at the top of the next hour.
I've laid a few bets. We've got a guest coming
on who will talk uh futures bets, will talk NFL
draft props. There's a lot of movement out there. By
the way, this justin fields epilepsy leak, which is kind

(12:20):
of kind of gross, honestly. I mean, he's telling teams that, fine,
but the fact that somebody was gonna put it out there,
which is why NFL Network did kind of gross. But listen,
I guess this is um the art of war. You know,
you've got to be prepared for everything. And if you
can put stuff out there, if you're we don't know

(12:43):
who who was going to put it out there. One
would assume an agent for another quarterback or somebody from
Arrival quarterbacks camp, hoping that uh, Matt Jones slides into
third or Trey Lance slides into third and Justin Fields
falls a little bit either way. Pretty gross um at
any rate, a lot of fun NFL draft topics coming up.

(13:06):
We will do some NBA. By the way, the number
of people who constantly show up in my Instagram, d
M s or on Twitter to say, hey, J I
know you hate Russell Westbrook, but he's playing really well.
And I was stunned Washington is in the thick of
the playing game in the Eastern Conference. It's it's a stunner.

(13:26):
I mean, Russ Bradley Beale, They're they're not doing poorly, folks.
I'm surprised how well Russell Westbrook is playing. Um, I
know he's still not shooting great, but he is doing
everything else. He goes really hard. UM, fun stuff happening
thanks to the playing in both conferences. I mean, given
the injuries, good thing. We have to talk about the

(13:47):
play in And finally, yes, we will do some Super League.
I know it's not necessarily about soccer. There are bigger
things at play here that I think you guys will
enjoy with the Super League. We'll talk about that, uh,
probably in the final hour. But coming up next here
on Fox Sports Radio, I have to talk about Steph Curry.

(14:07):
I have to. I'm contractually obligated to talk about who
I think is the m v P leader in the NBA.
That's next here on Fox Sports Radio. Back here on
Fox Sports Radio. Before I get to the NBA, just
wanted to um talk very briefly about the awful, sad,

(14:28):
terrible news that happened to Terence Clark, the former Kentucky
basketball players. So he declares for the draft. He comes
out here to Los Angeles to work out. He's out
of workout with one of his teammates from Kentucky and
afterward they get in cars and they're driving and um,
Clark runs a red light and ends up you know,

(14:52):
he hits a car that was turning left and then
smashes into a wall and died. It's just such a
terrible story. Apparently wasn't wearing his seat belt the correct way,
according to police. UM I will say I did lose
a cousin to a car accident a little over fifteen
years ago in Florida, and he wasn't wearing a seat belt.

(15:15):
You know, young kids, man, they don't want to wear
seat belt. But it was just devastating. Um. Probably one
of the toughest things I've had to, you know, go
through in my life. Because when I was in New
I got out of college and I moved right outside
New York City. Of course, I was working in a newspaper,
so I was too broke to live in New York City.
I could only go there and run up credit card

(15:37):
build debt at the bars because it was so expensive.
And I was making peanuts working at this newspaper. So
I lived right outside the city and again not making
a lot of money. That's a pretty clear theme why
the hell I got out of that industry. Um. So on,
on the on Sundays, I would go to my mom's
brother's house. Um in I think bayon New Jersey. If

(16:00):
anybody knows what that is. Every Sunday they would make like,
you know, Indian food and I would bring it back
and I would play video games with their kids, and um,
I was, I was close with them. I would do
this literally every Sunday. I was got really good at
certain video games and they would play a lot. And
then they moved to Florida. And of course, um the
second oldest son was the one who got in the

(16:21):
car accident in Paris. I'm just all I would say is, guys,
where your seat belts. It's so important, number one thing.
You know. We try to drill it into our kids,
like I won't move the car until your seat belts on.
Like I'm just not gonna do it. Just you know,
this Clark story is pretty sad um at any rate,
let's move on to a brighter NBA news. There is

(16:43):
no hard pivot out of that. But I just have
to marvel at what my favorite player in NBA history. Yes,
that's it, Steph Curry. Um, he passed Magic Johnson, I
don't know, sometime in the last decade. Just what he's
done a to get the G League Warriors. Yes, G
League Warriors. Look at the roster. Look who he's playing

(17:06):
with to get them in contention for a playoff spot,
and then Curry himself getting in the m v P race. Now,
I know there's a lot of people out come on
they're in ninth place. Well, you know, Russell Westbrook quarter
an MVP averaging a triple double, and I think the okay,
see thunder were five or six, fourth, fifth or six,
one of those in the West. And frankly, given this

(17:29):
weird year with ten fewer games than normal seventy two
games season, and injuries galore to every leader from Lebron
to and beat by the way, Janice missed a bunch
of games, James Harden was in the thick of it.
He's missed a ton of games. And now essentially you're

(17:50):
left with by default, Nicola Yokich is your m v
P leader. It's like, okay, you know where where where
is Denver? Oh, you don't want to get it to Curry,
who's ninth, but you will give it to your kitchen Denver,
who's fourth. And by the way, once Lebron and a
d come back, Denver without Jamal Murray could easily slide

(18:12):
to five or even six. And at some point we
have to just define what is value? Is value? Your stats?
Is it? The counting stats, the analytics stats is value?
Where your team is in the standings is value? What

(18:33):
if you were taken off the team? What happens? And
we know what would happen if Steph Curry left the Warriors.
They have no offense, and go look at what happened
to them last year. They ended up with I think
the second worst record in the league. Now, yes there's
no Clay Thompson either, and yes they have Draymond Green,
but the reality is Draymond Green can't score. Go look

(18:54):
at it. I mean he's averaging what six points a game?
He's a great passer for a big, great rebound or
great defender. But this idea that Curry should be docked
because his team is not great feels a little silly.
And I can already hear you yelling at your radio.
But Jason, you said that about Russell Westbrook in let's remember, guys,

(19:16):
Kevin Durant bails on Westbrook. The entire sports media that
covers the NBA universally trashed Durant for leaving, which was
wrong and stupid, and in hindsight, I think everybody would
agree they were dumb to bash Durant for leaving ends
up winning two titles, two finals MVPs. It was a

(19:37):
smart move. It was a tough move to make to
leave a place you've been at for eight or nine
years and then go to the best team in the league,
and you know you're gonna get ridiculed and you're gonna
become a punching bag, and all anybody's gonna do is
bash you. That's a tough thing to do. It's a
lot easier to just stay and lose and people feel

(19:58):
sorry for you. But and Durant left, people felt sorry
for Russell Westbrook. So when he shot poorly but patted
his stats with the rebounds and got a ton of
assists and the average of trouble double, people felt bad form.
And I think that's why he won the mvv It
was like, it's a similar feel to the Yokis fibe. Well,

(20:21):
everybody's hurt, Yokich has been healthy, he's putting up really
good numbers. Let's give him the m v P. And
I just we're smarter than we were twenty thirty, fifteen
years ago in how we analyze players and what Curry's
doing right now, is ridiculous. He's having one of the
greatest months in NBA history. When you're breaking records that

(20:44):
Kobe Bryant held for scoring and you're a six ft
three below the room guard, come on, you're having a
historic season. And people have put his MVP numbers when
he was the universal m v P, everything go first
place vote went to Curry. That's never happened before, not
even for Jordan's or Magic or Bird or Shack. When

(21:09):
you put Curry's numbers this year next to those, they're comparable.
So he's having as good of a season, but because
the Warriors are winning sixty games, he's not the m
v P. Like, what are we doing? I just there's
such a lack of consistency in the sports media, and
yes that includes voting for awards. It's just comical, Like

(21:31):
you can't really take this stuff all that seriously anymore
because so many people do stupid things. That's my take
on the NBA MVP Award. I think Curry has to
be the leader now, has to. I mean, look, Yokich
has been incredible, he's having the best season of his career.
Somehow he's not. He hasn't been injured at all. I mean,

(21:54):
what he's doing as a center hasn't been done since Shack.
No center, true center has won the m v p
s in Shack, Going way way back, All right? Coming
up next year on Fox Sports Radio. Oh yeah, we're
going into the Dallas Cowboys. We're diving deep. What is
the deal with Jerry Jones in the draft? What are

(22:14):
they gonna do with tend Are they trading up? Are
they trading back? They're gonna do something dumb like usual.
That's next, But first there's Isaac Loewen Crown with what's trending?
Good morning, Jason. In Major League Baseball on Friday night,
the San Diego Padres defeating the world champion Dodgers six
to one. Fernando Tatis Jr. Hitting two home runs last
night at Dodger Stadium, coming twenty two years to the

(22:37):
day that his father hit two Grand slams in the
same inning at Dodger Stadium, Fernando Tatis Jr. Tweeting afterwards
last night, all credit to you, Dad, You created this.
Now we celebrate together. Also last night, the Mets blanking
the National six to nothing. Jacob de Gran a complete game,
two hits, shut out, fifteen strikeouts, no box, the A's

(23:01):
wanting at Baltimore three to one. Oakland's twelve game wedding
streak their longest in nineteen seasons in the NBA. On
Friday night, the Golden State Warriors dethroning Denver by twenty one.
Steph Curry thirty two points, twenty five of them coming
up the second half, Draymond Green tying a career high
with nineteen assists, the Washington Wizards on a seven game

(23:22):
winning streak after a twenty point victory at Oklahoma City.
Russell Westbrook his twenty eight triple double of the season,
his ninth in the last ten games, and Memphis Wing
at Portland one thirty to one, eight as jaw ruled
John Morant thirty three points and thirteen assists. Jason, Jeez,
you almost threw me off there, he said, Jah Rule.

(23:42):
I was like, is that his new nickname? Yeah? They
signed him to a ten day contract. I could do better,
all right, Thank you, Isaac. Back here on Fox Sports Radio.
It's me Jason McIntyre. Let's welcome in our our first
guest of the day. We love Sparring. He's a good guy.
He knows the Cowboys well, as anybody, and we disagree
on a lot. He was correct, Dak got paid. Let's

(24:04):
welcome in Neui Scruggs, NBC five, Dallas sports director KNEI,
how you doing, man? I'm good man. Look at what
want dinner? Yes? I owe you a steak dinner. Because
Dak Prescott got paid in the escalade. I I didn't
think it would happen. Um, but New he knows his stuff.
Uh and NEWI, why don't you tell us now? Says

(24:26):
you know so much about the Cowboys and Jerry and
Stephen what are they doing in the draft in the
first round? Well, sitting at ten, they like to see
a defensive player Paul to him and the best greatly
differensive players right now and they kind of fit what
they want would be at the defensive back position. Talking

(24:49):
about Passenger ten second and j C. Horn. There's not
you know, a top edge or top defensive tackle up
front to take in the top ten. So that's why
listen and possibly doing the back. And if they stay
at ten, Jerry is known to trade if the quarterbacks
are falling and somebody like the Chicago Uh in Oakland,

(25:10):
New England wants to get up to ten. If they're
willing to give up a first rounder, I could see
it happening. I remember when Bill Parcels was here and
the bustl BO Bills wanted to trade it to get J. P. Lawson,
and they gladly traded out of that spot. The ten
spot is a place where people go get quarterbacks. The
Bills went from uh, I say the bill, but the
Chiefs went from twenty seven to ten with the bill
to take Patrick. My homes and been a couple of

(25:31):
years ago he saw Arizona move into the tent spot
to take Josh Rose, and so ten could be some
active could be an active spot for the Cowboys. And
if so Tan is taken away, um, then I definitely
think I could see him possibly moving back. Yeah, moving back.
Everybody loves to trade down, especially in a year where
there's so much uncertainty, right, Like, you don't have as
good of a grip on the prospects as you do

(25:53):
normally because you can't sit with them and spend a
ton of time with them and take them out to meals.
You can't do the normal thing. But I gotta ask
Jerry has a tendency to go offense in the first
round maybe when he doesn't need to. He took a
Zekiel Elliott early. He took who's a Ceedee Lamb in
the first round. What are the odds that he makes

(26:13):
a move to go grab Kyle Pitts, the tight end
slash receiver from Florida who everybody wants to call a
unicorn um what happened? Definitely not happening. It's not happening. Mean,
you've got now that you signed back Prescott, you have
a limited resources and funds for your team overall, especially
on the defensive side. They are not a tight end

(26:35):
away from a Super Bowl, very deefit away from trying
to compete and to get to an NFC championship games
who get to a super Bowl? So Kyle Pitts is
something that that was a boy if he felled us
to be great. But he's not gonna fall. It's not
Kyle Pitts is not like a wide receivers thing in
the city Lamb last year thinking about why receivers everybody's
gots different flavor. You may want to X, you may

(26:55):
want to even without Last year is Jocko had the
first shot. He said I want to speed to him
and then said you know, we want a guy who
have a technicians are different. They like that. I mean
that right now, and saying, hey, look, you know what,
give me another Clavis Kelsey, and Kyle Pitts is a
better Clavis Kelsey. So the whole thing and notion about
him trading up, that's stilly because it means you have

(27:16):
to give up draft picks. They need more draft picks
because it's cheaper to pay these guys, and they got
to fix the defense, so he can't moving up here
to go take an office play. Just just silly. Could
you argue, though, Knui, that the Cowboys are not one
or two defensive players away from being competitive. The defense
was awful last year, couldn't stop a nosebleed, and like

(27:36):
this idea that a rookie quarterback is going to solve everything.
Certain uh, even though he was a team with Digs,
who he formed a secondary with at Alabama, couldn't you say,
you know what, let's just outscore everybody. Let's grab Pitts
because guess what, we we can't pay Amari Cooper forever,
we can't pay Michael Galt. We're not gonna be able
to pay everybody but Pitts gives us another element on offense.

(27:58):
Ain't nobody gonna be able to stop Zeke Pitts, C D.
Cooper Gallup and the whole, the whole gang. No, because
once again we start talking about pitch your tent. Why
are you trading draft capital go up to go get
the player. It's it's they can't afford to do it, Jason.
They've got problems. They've also got other defenders that they
got to figure out within one or two years that

(28:20):
these guys could be gone. So trying to trade it
from more offenses not not the thing. Um, You're right
that one player is not gonna help him us. You're
the Chinese said, what's the best time of plans three
ten years ago? What was the next best time? It's today?
So you need to start to try to fix the defense.
And then you start to look at the schedule, Jason,
of who they played in terms of BLYD receivers. They
gotta face Keenan Allen, Chris Godwin, Michael Evans, Michael Thomas,

(28:44):
Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Adam Feeling, Justine Jefferson, Uh, Jerry Judy,
you gotta host the dudes, Plushy, You've got the god
in the division like Kenny Golladay's in division, and now
you got Terry mccolan's division. You got um, you got
Jalen break. I mean, they will say seeing a boatload
of wide receiving and they don't have enough in the

(29:05):
back end to help them. So this whole notion of
trying to take some tight in and we got out
school people. To me, you're silly. Even Kansas, see when
they won the Super Bowl, decided we're going to address
our defensive needs here. And that's what the Cowboys have
to do. And I ain't saying they're going to Super Bowl.
I say for you to be competitive, you've got to
start addressing the defense. And they they they have to

(29:26):
do as they have acknowledge that they need to do well.
You know, listen to me. They also have to address
the offensive line in some capacity. Tyron Smith. I believe
he's missed something like twenty four games in the last
five seasons. UM without him. If he's hurt again, they're
in deep trouble. They got they got ten ticks, they
got ten picks. You have to do it around one.
You got ten picks. So you do you think an

(29:46):
offensive Lineman's a priority at ten or definitely defense. They
Steven Jolle said yesterday, No, I talked to my McCarthy
a couple of weeks ago when eating that with the media,
and he said, no, they feel that Tying and and
Lele Collins and left and the tackles have gone and
shoot themselves and they don't feel like they have any
uses with them when it comes to the offensive line.

(30:07):
These are guys that you can get in the second pell.
I just look at a guy like Danny Bay was
the better offensive Lindon in the game. Here's the guy's
been in the four craft. The Cowboys have done a
decent job in the past of getting guys that was
not just first round picks um in the offensive line area.
So this isn't you'll see it offensive tackle taken. You
just won't see him taking a tip. Got it. Let

(30:27):
me ask you about the division, the NFC East. It
feels like, you know a lot of people like Washington
would tell me, tell me why the New York Giants
shouldn't be in consideration. I love the offensive editions. I
like what they did defensively. Who's the best team in
this division right now? Before the draft. I don't know.

(30:48):
I mean, and I can tell me I don't know.
Tell me what these teams are looking like, Tell me
what they do after the draft, tell me what they
do in free agency. Um, every year we like to
sit up here and say, oh, this team is we
don't know. You know, that's like we don't know. Nobody
picked Washington last year and look at where they ended up. So, UM,
I'm gonna I don't care about right now. UM, tell

(31:09):
me what you're doing to make your football team better
and how do you get there and how many people
buy in? So let's see if Fitzpatrick can end up
helping Washington. Um, let's see if they decide with the Giants,
they give Daniel Jones more help and they sign to
help their defent here. Maybe it's just so many questions.
Every year we we we there's gonna be somebody who
goes from last to first interdivision and every year we

(31:31):
know that. And with Washington last year. So, um, this
whole thing and who's gonna be where in the East
right now? It doesn't mean the Hill of Bean I don't.
I don't really, I don't talk about that as much
as I think other people. I'll get you out of
here on this one. Where are you on the obviously
best quarterback in the division. It's gotta be Dak Prescott.
If it's not, we got problems. But when you look

(31:51):
at the grand scheme of things in the NFC, nui,
is there a case to be made that Dallas could
be a sleeper? And I asked this because you know
Drew Brees is gone, we know the Bucks are released
after that, probably the Packers, maybe the Rams. But is
Dallas almost being undervalued here given the return of Dak
uh Strong free agency and the defense, as you said,

(32:15):
improving through the draft. I don't trust Mike McCarthy. I
was very disappointed what Mike McCarthy did last year. But
he's the one butt in Mike Blan who was an
absolute travesty and what he did and watching the special
teams coaching, I mean, Mike McCarthy, let him go in
a ten point game and you're allowed, you go, you
go do a fake punt. It to a twenty three
to fail, and then one game they had to fake punts.

(32:36):
Let's just look at it, my McCarthy. I'm then, dude,
I don't know the reason why the jest of the
Brown said no to you, and it's the reason why
the Packers after they fired you with twenty six and
six over the two years he's been out and been
playing in the NFG Championship Game twice, So you know,
there's there's definitely some I got questions about him, man,
I saw all I'm gonna say. I'm just not sold

(32:56):
on on Mike McCarthy. All Right, he's new. He scrugs,
he's not a fan of Mike McCarthy at NEWI any
w e y scrugs NBC five Dallas, NEWI thanks a lot, man,
enjoy the weekend. Alright? Uh woof boy, Mike McCarthy not
endearing himself to the media in Dallas. Coming up next
year on Fox Sports Radio, can we talk about the

(33:19):
injuries in the NBA for a moment. I mean, it's
it's it's it's a blood bath. Guys are dropping like flies.
And also it's kind of killing the NBA Fantasy playoffs.
My son, my ten year old, is ticked off. Talk
about that next year on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, I'm
Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball. We usually

(33:40):
talk all basketball all the time, but it's more about
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You download it, you listen to it. I think you'll
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(34:03):
your podcast back here on Fox Sports Radio. It's me
Jason McIntyre. I know that the company line is nobody
cares about your fantasy team, but I'll say this. My
son is doing his first NBA fantasy league this year.
We were gonna do Fantasy NFL, but we just didn't
get our act together in time. And it is pretty

(34:26):
cool when other people lead the charge and say, hey,
you know what, I'm gonna step up and do this
and create this. Do you want to join us? Yes,
that would be awesome. You don't always want to be
the guy organizing stuff. Then it gets old. So somebody
invited us to this fantasy basketball league. Obviously, you know
I love the NBA, uh in sports in general, so
I'm like hardcore pushing it, and you know my son's

(34:47):
in it. We're we have a decent draft. We lose
our first two, we hit the waiver wire, Boom, we
get hot. We end up in fourth place in the league.
So you go to the playoffs and this is what
I It's not an everyday lineup thing. It's a once
a week lineup thing. And those are garbage because if
your guy plays Monday, gets hurt, boom, he's done for

(35:07):
the week. We had five guys in the NBA miss
games on Tuesday, and it's not like there were injuries
that we could have seen Sunday when you set the lineup.
It's really terrible. And you know what a lot of
it is, guys, and this is hurting the NBA product badly.
It's the tanking. I know that it sounds crazy, but

(35:29):
I thought teams weren't really tanking. Yeah, not a lot
of them are. But teams are now jockeying to avoid
certain teams in the playoffs by saying, hey, Sa bonus
on Indiana, you're probably their MVP. We're gonna we're gonna
sit you out for a couple of games with an injury. Hey, okay,
see we know you badly want the first pick. Okay,

(35:51):
see shut down Al Horford. Like two months ago, Al Horford,
like that guy's a major factor. They're playing a bunch
of nineteen and twenty year olds. And then Luke Dort
Arizona State kid had like forty one game, they sit him.
The next game comes back. This is a young kid,
he's like twenty one years old. There's no way he's

(36:13):
remotely close to injured. And then he has like thirty
five and they sent him again. It's like, what are
fantasy owners supposed to do? And yes, this is where
you're now screaming, Jason, it ain't about the fantasy. Well,
guess what. Okay, the NFL is largely tied to gambling
in fantasy. Those two things are massive. The NBA has

(36:34):
missed the boat on both of those. Although fantasy and
gambling exists for the NBA, because the season is so
damn long, you want to up your revenues, figure out
how to work and incorporate more gambling and fantasy into
your product. That's easy, but the NBA is so difficult
because in the second half of the season, when they
stacked the games so that the Lakers are on TV

(36:55):
all the time, or the Celtics and the good teams
and the big markets and NFL is not happening, and
there's really no competition. Marc Madness is toast. April should
be an NFL month, all right, sorry, an NBA month,
and it's just not. It's not cutting through because everybody's hurt.
I will say this, Steph Curry being um healthy has

(37:18):
been huge for the league. And again I don't analyze
NBA TV ratings that closely, but Steph Curry recently in
games I think it was against em Beat and someone
else last week maybe Boston. Curry drove those games to
huge rating numbers, huge of course being relative to what
the NBA normally gets. But like the Lakers can't get

(37:39):
anybody to watch them on TV now, everybody's hurt. Clippers Kauai,
he's always out, Paul George has got some kind of
toe injury or something. So you need and the Knicks,
by the way, and eventually we'll talk about the Knicks
like they are. They have finally gotten their act together
with Thibodeau and Julius Randall, and there's a case to
be made that, hey, we should have the Knicks on TV,

(38:02):
but it's difficult to cram the Knicks on TV when
the schedules made months in advance. The Knicks, though, are
a player. And remember, folks, the NBA has been hurt
because the big markets, Chicago, New York. These are bad,
bad basketball teams for the better part of the last decade.

(38:23):
Now my um Chicago has had a couple of good
moments with Derrick Rose. But the real, the reality is
the Nick stinking has really hurt the league and these injuries,
it's just really damaging. You guys know, I like the NBA.
We talked about the NBA a ton. I just I
can't get into it right now. Very difficult with the injuries.

(38:47):
So coming up next hour, we'll do NFL draft gambling.
I know you guys are into that. We'll do that
at the top of the next hour. I want to
bring back perhaps one of the best quotes the NFL
draft history when the Colts GM went after mel Kiper.
You guys are gonna love that. And uh, I don't know.
We'll we'll see, we'll we'll do maybe a little Super League.

(39:11):
We'll do a little Detroit Lions. I know, I know
that people care greatly about the Detroit line. Should they
draft a quarterback? You know who were the forty nine taken.
We'll still dive into some of this stuff. I think
the NFL Draft and if you look closely, and I
didn't want to build a full segment around this, but

(39:32):
if you look really closely, the NFL is starting to
encroach on the NBA's turf. NBA had had Christmas Day, right,
that was their day, the unofficial start of their season.
Huge day for the NBA. There was an NFL game
on Christmas Day last year and there's two this year.
NFL going from sixteen to seventeen games. What does that do? Well,

(39:53):
they're not going to start earlier. They're gonna push back
the season a week. So now super Bowl weekend line
up with President's weekend. Traditionally, what is President's Weekend? Ben
NBA All Star weekend. This is subtle. I don't think
a lot of people are on this yet, but if

(40:13):
you look closely, the NFL, it's almost like we've had
enough of this. NBA is amazing narrative and the social
media NBA currency, which is pretty dominant. Let's be real,
social media loves the NBA. If you came out of
like a coma for ten years, fifteen years, and you

(40:37):
just simply looked on social media, it would show to
you that the NBA is king, but that's not the reality.
And I wonder if the NFL is pushing back with
this schedule, the small scheduling tweets. It's not being talked
about yet because you know, we like to look ahead
and try to read the d leaves. Just just kind
of keep an eye in the NFL versus the NBA.
Somewhat of an interesting storyline, all right. Coming up next

(41:00):
here on Fox Sports Radio, my man t A joining us.
We will do NFL draft gambling. There's some prop bets
you've gotta make some to avoid. That's next. Keep it focked.
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You guys know how my gambling works right heavy on
the NFL, college basketball, college football at probably NBA playoffs.

(41:45):
But there is this this lull after March madness where
I get a little sad. I know some people do golf,
and I've now started the last few years to start
doing NFL draft gambling. So I thought we'd bring in
our weekend uh NFL guy t A to join me.
T A, How are you man? What's up, Jason? How
are you? Yeah? I'm alright. I'm curious after March madness.

(42:06):
Do you do a lot of gambling. You're a golf
kid guy, right, Yeah. The last handful of years, I've
really gotten into to the golf. I used to just
do the majors, but probably the last two three years,
I started dabbling a lot more in some of these
smaller events that most people don't pay attention to. But
you know, I've been doing really well. And you know,
golf kind of the golf sweats if you could track

(42:27):
one or two guys throughout a full weekend, are really
really fun. So that's That's about the extent of what
I do. I don't do any baseball, and it's very
very little NBA, so it's it's mainly golf at this
time of year. Yeah, baseball's bananas. I mean, it's just
way too many games. But NFL Draft is a good opportunity.
I feel like there are some edges out there. Now,
I am curious when you zoom out on gambling on

(42:48):
the on the NFL draft, TA, like, how are they
setting these lines? Because this is there's really no analytics
they can put in the hopper other than really looking
at mock drafts from Piper and mcshaye and Daniel Jeremiah
and all the other moth drafts out there. Right, yeah,
that's exactly right. And that's the reason is because these

(43:10):
limits are so low. Um, you can only bet so
much at a lot of places. I mean the site
I use, for Exampletely only bet a hundred dollars um.
And some of these other like you know, these these
casinos in Vegas are these sports books are starting to
increase their limits a little bit, but still they don't.
They don't let you put a ton of action down,
so um, you know, to them, this is kind of

(43:30):
a lost leader. It's one of those things where all right,
let's just post a bunch of props for the draft,
get people excited, get people using you know, our sports book, etcetera. Um,
even if we lose a little bit, not a big
deal because we'll get it all back in the NFL
during the regular season and and whatnot. So yeah, in
terms of how these lines are set, though, You're right,
I think all they really do is they just look

(43:51):
at some of the consensus mocks that are out there, um,
and kind of start that way, and then you know
they let the market kind of dictate from there. Um.
I'll just tell you. You know, not a lot out
of sports books or site have this, but in the
last week they started posting at one sports book in Vegas.
You know, essentially there's like a hundred players listed in
there over unders, like literally you could you could go

(44:12):
over under, you know, all these random guys in like
the sixth round and stiff round and and so there
were some really bad lines that were set. Um just
because they're there. I don't think their data was really refreshed.
And so I know some guys I didn't do it,
but I know some guys that had asked me my opinion, um,
and they had some some players pretty hard and their
draft position literally moved thirty to forty spots they headed.

(44:35):
So yeah, it's because it's well, I'll give you one example.
So Shawn Wade, who's a cornerback at Ohio States. That's
how familiar are with them. So he was projected to
be a first round pick before this past season. Um.
He had played mainly in the slot in at Ohio
State where when Akudo was there in Damon Arnett, who
were high picks, first round picks last year, and he
struggled this year. He was really really poor on the outside.

(44:57):
His stock dropped you know, uh, you know to like
the fifth, sixth round. But he posted just tremendous pro
day numbers. Is athleticisms off the charts, and so you
know his draft pick special with like a hundred and
seventies think with the over under which is like six rounds.
That's crazy. So so I told my guys that, look,

(45:18):
I mean, who knows what actually happens, but a guy
who has who had first round talent coming in, who
you know, posted good numbers last year and just his
athleticism is kind of a leak, um, and we know
how state guys get get bumped up, especially at cornerback.
I thought that was a crazy line. And so he
took that, took the under a bunch of times. It's
down to like a hundred and ten, like it dropped

(45:38):
ten would be what like late late third, early fourth
I think it's like mid like like late fourth rounders.
I don't remember the exact number, but it's like I
isn't dropped a ton um. So you know, they get
these things wrong that it's not an exact science, and
there's so many of them it's impossible for um these
sports books to really be accurate. So but I think otherwise,

(45:59):
when you look at some of the general props UM,
like the high first round props, those are usually pretty
good UM and no one really has any insight info
here that That's the thing I want people to understand is,
you know, the draft props, because of the low limits, UM,
they're more reactionary um uh movements than they are predictive.
So you know, if we see a justin Field, you know,

(46:21):
become a favorite the third pick, doesn't mean anybody actually
knows anything. And that was only because you know, he
had just had his pro day, got rave reviews, and
we have seen reports that Kyle Shanahan and the Niners
were actually there, so all of a sudden he became
a favorite. Like that's all that was. So just I
hope people don't don't take any of these odds that

(46:41):
meaning anything. They're not predictive at any really in any sense.
They're just taking what the news and what the tweets
are that come out from Schefter and those guys, And
on some level, ta isn't there a vibe now that
if they simply move the line but the limits are
so low, there's really not a lot of exposure for them.
But there's free publicity because they'll just send it out
to these sheep Darren Ravel and all these guys who

(47:03):
were willing to post, oh, the line moved justin fields
and moved five points or whatever it was, and all
of a sudden they get free publicity. People are like
talking about gambling, and there's really no loss for them
in moving the lines on some of these Yeah, and look,
let's be let's be honest, like some of these sports books,
you can bet you know, um, five six figures. You know,
some guys can. Not everybody can, but some guys can

(47:25):
five six figures on these on specific NFL games. I mean,
these props are talked about couple hundred bucks, you know.
So to them, they don't care about losing money. If
they lose a little bit of money on this, that's
that's nothing. Then they'll make it all back and then
some in like one NFL weekend. So um, like you said,
the publicity is really all they're here for. And you know,
it's kind of fun for the average joes who want to,
you know, toss a hundred bucks on a on a prop.

(47:47):
Here they're a handful of props, like, there's nothing wrong
with that. And for me, like my unless I'm doing unless,
I have a very very strong conviction on over under
on a player's draft position, which is essentially you know,
minus one ten, minus one twelve, whatever it is. You know,
I'd like to hit some of these that have maybe
plus three hundred plus four hundred plus five hundreds to
kind of get the best bank from my small buck

(48:08):
as I can. Uh, is there any any to jump
out at you? I'm curious where are you? Where you are?
On the Alabama receivers Wattle and Smith, it was funny.
I saw all this chatter that, oh, the Giants are
desperate for a receiver at eleven, which to me it
felt like just total garbage, And all of a sudden
they moved the line over under eleven and a half
for Wattle and Smith. Um, I I took the over,

(48:32):
meaning I don't think either of them goes in the
top eleven. Do you have any vibe on that? Well,
it's funny you say that. So last year, the one
big prop that I did hit, I had Henry Ruggs
to be the first receiver draft plus five hundred and
I posted that all over Twitter. So that was that
was out there up and you know, right before the draft.
Uh And my only thinking there was, you know, when
it comes down to kind of unless there's like a

(48:53):
dominant receiver like a Chase or Julio Jones and one
of these guys, you know, is gonna go really really high. Um,
take the guy that is the the you know, big
school guy that has the incredible speed, because these teams
fall in love with speed. We saw Rugs, what do
you run like a four two? Last year. I just
had a feeling like, you know, he was gonna someone
was gonna fall in love. And we saw the Raiders.

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You know, the same kind of thing could be happening
here with Waddle versus DeVonta Smith. I mean DeVonta Smith
measured at hundred sixties six pounds. He didn't run any
you know, any drills because I know he was hurt
a little bit and so you know there is a
chance that you know, he could be pushed down because
of that and Waddle. Yeah, he didn't run any drills either,
but everyone knows that his speed is off the charts,

(49:36):
and so these teams fall in love to speed. They
think they can get a DeVonta Smith type of receiver
in round two or round three because we see it
every year. But they don't think they can get the
the Tyree Hill game breaker. Um like there would Waddle. Now,
I'm not I wouldn't bet either way, to be honest,
because I just don't have a strong opinion on it.
But that that's you know, always leaned to the to

(49:57):
the high speed guy. Um, if you have a choice,
I think I'm curious where you are though? Irrelevant of
gambling on the six pounds Smith, because people forget that
Hollywood Brown checked in at one sixty six at the
combine if you look up his draft profile. Now he
felt to like what twenties something to the Ravens and
nobody made a big deal out of it. But it's

(50:19):
a big deal because people were pumping up Stavonta Smith
as being a top ten pick. Um, Where where are you?
Do you? Still does that concern you at all won
sixty six, you know, a little bit um. But his
production was so ridiculous. You know, I know people used
the Marvin Harrison UH comparison coming out because they were
similar size. I kind of like someone mentioned Tory Holt

(50:41):
to me yesterday. I thought that was really good because
Tory Holt was such a precise route runner. He you know,
had really good speed. He produced the college. Like that's
the type of guy I see Devanta Smith so, um,
I don't think he's the burner that Marvin Harrison was.
Marvin Harrison was just you know, his forty time was ridiculous.
And I'm not sure DeVonta Smith is that fast, but

(51:04):
I think he's a you know it runs these precise routes.
Is a great kid, really good and open field. It
will be interesting to see. Like I think he's I
would definitely take him if I had a pick in
the in the you know, in the teams. You know,
I don't think he's a top ten guy, um, but
you know, I definitely think that he has the ability
to produce him. You could always put on weight. It's
not that hard to get you know, game ten pounds

(51:25):
here in the next couple of weeks before before training camp.
But if he's won seventy five, I think he'll be fine.
I mean, t Y Hilton is kind of in that
range too. Um, he's similar size. So uh, and he
gets to an NFL training staff, I'm sure they'll put
mus on him. So by year three or four, I
mean he could be, you know, really in good shape.
So I have no problem taking him. I think. Just

(51:45):
think his running and his ability to catch the balls
is a laite. I find the trade lance over under
six and a half. At least that's what it was
last night when I looked it up. Uh. Interesting because
you know, t A, I know you follow all these guys.
Mike Lombardi is saying trade lance. The guy at three
h Adam Schefter saying it's mac Jones. Um, anybody who
watched college football thinks it should be justin Fields Shanahan.

(52:09):
You know you can dive into his history whatever. But
all of a sudden, we're getting close. I'm starting to
feel this trade lance vibe. At three. Do you have
any edge on his over under six and a half? Um,
I don't. I mean I think it's to me. I
don't think Atlanta it's going to take a quarterback to four.
I know there's talk of that plazing to me because
if you look at the roster for they only have

(52:30):
like nine is crazy. They only have like nine guys
under contract on offense next year like that they don't
have because Matt Ryant contract is ridiculous. I think he
has over forty million dollar cappit next year. Jake Matthews
has like a twenty eight million dollars capit and stay
with Julio Jones. So those guys take up such a
huge chunk of the salary captain. They don't have many

(52:50):
players even under contract next year. I just don't see
how you can. They can't take this risk and this
you know, this luxury of taking a quarterback at four
with you know, Matt Ryan is still a very you know,
he's a he's the top half of the NFL quarterback
probably has two more years left, and his contract is
you know, just such a burden on them. Um to
to just take a quarterback here at four, I think

(53:11):
would be crazy to me. I think you take pitts,
or you trade down, collect assets, really you know, restock
your roster so you have some ability to maneuver next
year because they're gonna be in trouble with the cap
next year. Um So I think, as you know, get
as many talented players you can, and the people say, oh,
they may not be in this position again to draft
a quarterback. I just disagree. I mean, first of all,

(53:32):
they're taking the fourth best quarterback in this year's draft
and taking the number one or number two right, And
we see it every year. It gets you know, teams
that are in the teams move up to the top five.
But we saw it with San Francisco, we saw it,
you know with the Rams with Wentz. We saw with
the Eagles when they traded up for our sorry for Wentz,
and the Rams trade up for Golf. Like we see
it all the time that these teams in the teams,

(53:53):
if they really really like a quarterback in the top five,
they can get there if they want. So I don't
think it's the last time that Atlanta would even have
a shot at a top quarterback. So I don't think
they'll take glance there. And then otherwise I don't know
if anybody will trade up, you know, I think I
best maybe the Lions, maybe team trades up with Detroit
or Carolina takes them or Denver, but I don't think

(54:14):
I would take under six and a half. If I
had a choice, I would take over, but I don't.
I don't know what sanci who is gonna do. Um.
I think they're doing a really good job of of
kind of making everybody guests here and it's you know,
definitely that's where the draft starts, and it's could be
the most intriguing parts. So we'll see what happened. My
only pushback and I didn't realize this until someone mentioned
it to be when I was texting with him about it.
If you look at Atlanta's roster, the only quarterback they

(54:37):
have is Matt Ryan. Like, they don't have another quarterback,
so they'll draft one at some point, but I'm with you,
I don't think it will be four either. All Right,
Finally we'll wrap up back to wide receivers. I think
the numbers over under four and a half in the
first round. Uh, you nailed drugs last year going first.
It just given the production of a guy like Justin
Jefferson and so many good quick receivers out there, I'm

(54:59):
kind of leaning toward the over four and a half. Year,
but I don't know if I'm gonna lay it. There
is a little juice. You know. It's interesting that we
know the top three our locks and that it's like
can you get two more? Um? What's interesting about this
class is after the first couple of guys, like everybody
else is essentially a slot receiver, like all the Tony
and Elijah Moore and Ron Dalmore, all these guys are

(55:20):
slot receivers. Are all kind of sub five pen um
and they're more quick guys. And Rashad Bateman is the
only one who was kind of six six ft plus
I think, and you know, I tweeted this morning like
his athleticism is okay, um when you compare it to
other guys in this class. He is six six ft
one nineties, so he's not huge. He didn't have a

(55:41):
really good he only played five games this year, um
because of COVID, But he didn't really produce very well.
He had a high drop rate drop right, which is
really big. UM. So I'm not sure if that's that
really profiled as a first round receiver. But um, and
like you said, we've seen guys going from round two,
three or four and the last half of years really produced. UM.
But he is the only really outside receiver remain because

(56:05):
all these guys are slock guys. So I think he
probably does end up going to first round. So that's
your fourth, and it's a matter of, you know, can
you get Tony or can you get one of these
slot guys to be your fifth? I would probably lean over,
but I'm not taking that personally, just because I don't know.
Just the history tells you this class is so deep.
You know, why take a receiver at when you can

(56:25):
just sit and take one in the second round who's
kind of in a similar traits, similar characteristics. So personally,
that's what I would do, but you know, with some
of these head coaches, you never know. And now that
Baltimore's two first round picks, you can almost lock in
one as a receiver, I think. So that kind of
gets you there. If you're thinking about that over four

(56:45):
and a half, yeah, I would say keeping the last guy.
Keep an eye on Terrence Marshall, the kid out of
l s U, big kid, blazing fast, but he's got
an injury. He's got a red flag. That's the that's
the issue, is he popped up with an injury. And
so you know, because he dropped the second round because
I think other wise you're right, he would be that
other big receiver. But because of the injury, he might
drop the second right. I actually have the Jets taking him.
I did like an ultimate Jets draft. I think thirty

(57:08):
four is their pick. I have them taking Caleb Farley,
the quarterback for Virginia Teco at the back surgery. Um. Again,
you know it's injured now. But again, we're so far
away from the season. Jets aren't close to anything. But
all right, hey, thanks for joining us. You've got something else.
I was gonna give you my one, my one favorite
draft prop, j C. Horne under I have him under

(57:29):
thirteen and a half. I went really big on it.
Nothing as well and a half. He is absolutely gonna
go in the top thirteen. I know for a fact
one team in the top fift team that I know
I have connection to love him over certain I think
more teams than you think have him as their number
one corner. He profiled exactly same measurable, same size as
Jalen Ramsay. Look for the Chargers to potentially I think

(57:50):
a team might move up actually getting him. So that's
the guy that's my favorite. Uh, I don't even think
he's going to be there for Dallas. T A. I
would not be shocked. Carolina would hit that under love
it good stuff. All right, t A, thanks for joining us.
You guys can follow him on Twitter at Cleave t
A and we'll talk to you soon. All right. Coming

(58:10):
up next here on Fox Sports Radio, we found the
greatest SoundBite in NFL Draft history. We will play that
for you next year on Fox Sports Radio. Back here
on Fox Sports Radio. You know it's a Saturday in April.
I had to think about what month we're in when
you look up at the screens, because there's four screens

(58:30):
here in the studio. One of them has The Godfather,
another has bowling, another has lethal weapon too, which for
my money is this is the best lethal weapon, better
than the original. And uh you agree? Thank you? I
was Sam, here's the weird one I was saying before
we get to this epic NFL Draft clip. I didn't

(58:51):
even realize the oscars with this weekend. I just saw
a tag on the screen. I'm like, they're usually in March,
and it's just I don't even recall that many movies
coming out last year. Were there a lot I definitely
think fewer than normal. And I don't know if I've
seen any of the Best Picture nominees. I don't even
know what they are. It feels like this is totally
stuck up on me. No. I just saw the movie Nobody,

(59:13):
and I'm pretty sure that won't be uh you know
that won't be nominated for any oscars. Wait, which is
that one? Is that the Bob Odin Kirk action movie Nobody?
Very violent, very very violent. It was entertaining. Okay, let
me just quickly call up Best Picture nominees. Yeah, let's
run through them. Um, shoot, I can't. Well, I'll let
you find them. Let me why I was him? You

(59:36):
find those while Ryan plays us this clip from Everyone
the best moment I think in NFL draft history. One
thought they were moving up to take Dilford. What followed
became the signature moment of the draft. Rams have made
a train with the Indianapolis, and Indianapolis has selected trev

(59:59):
Albert's mind back and from Nebraska. Wow, that's well. I mean,
Albert's a great player, question about that. But you get
a problem with this movie. I think it's a typical
cult move. I mean, here's a team that needed a
franchise quarterback. To pass up a Trent Dilfer when all
you have is Jim Harriball, give me a break. That's

(01:00:19):
why the culture picking second every year in the draft,
not battling from the super Bowl like other clubs in
the National Football Though. I need have one surprise for
us today. That's not a surprise to us. No, that's great,
I mean, no, that's what I mean. I'm not I'm not. Hey,
one question built a lot of criticism about not taking
a quarterback here. Your response, well, you know, we got

(01:00:41):
a guy up there. Who in the hell is mel Kiper?
I don't want. I mean, here's a guy that criticizes everybody,
whoever they take. He's got the answers who you should
take it, who you shouldn't take. In my knowledge of him,
he's never ever put on a jock straft. He's never
been a coach, he's never been a scout, he's never
been an administrator, And all of a sudden he's an expert.
He's in our papers two days ago telling us who

(01:01:01):
we have to take. We don't have to take anybody
that mel Kaiper says we have to take. Mel Kaiper
has no more credentials to do what he's doing than
my neighbor and my neighbors a postman and he doesn't
even have season tickets to the NFL. Oh my gosh,
how many levels of awesome is that? Oh? I love it. Now,
let's give the credit words due. That was courtesy of

(01:01:25):
the fun House Twitter account. Um, and obviously the draft
was on ESPN back then. Um, a young more, a
young Kiper. That was when Kiper would actually go after people.
He has gotten I don't want to say soft, but
he's gotten very mild now in his criticism. I'm trying

(01:01:45):
to think back, Trev Alberts was pretty good in the NFL,
not great coming out of Nebraska. It's not like Tred
Dilford was great. And that's the thing, Like, you know,
gms can get as angry as they want, but the
man in the arena is all I think when I
think of Mel Kiper, it's so much easier to just
lob grenades and put out mock drafts and say what

(01:02:08):
you think as opposed to taking the job in X
front office and being the guy who makes the decisions.
Now we see we've seen that with Mayock, who left
NFL Network to go to the Raiders, should be scrutinized.
His picks with the Raiders. I mean, do we want

(01:02:28):
to do that? We can. I think may have done
an okay job, but it's way harder to actually make
the picks and stick with them as opposed to just
say what you think about him. And you know, Listen,
Kiper was really funny back in the day. He's just
not as aggressive as he used to be as his
profile is raised, which is natural. Um, but I just

(01:02:51):
absolutely love that moment. Thank you for pulling that up, Bryan. Alright,
coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Slorez
has been going after my Jets for a little bit,
and I know schleres a k a stink slare uh
from FS one, super good guy, got a ton of stories.
He's gonna come on and I'm gonna try to talk
about a bashing my Jets. So that's next. But first,

(01:03:14):
here's Isaac Loewen Crawn with what's trending Jason in Major
League Baseball on Friday night, the Padres defeat of the
world champion Dodgers six to one, and the story was
Fernando Tatis Jr. He had two home runs at Dodger
Stadium last night. And get this, it came twenty two
years to the day that his father hit two grand

(01:03:34):
slams at Dodger Stadium in the same inning. Jason I
was offered a ticket to that game by some college buddies.
I turned it down. True story. Also last night, the
Mets blanking the National six to nothing, Jacob Degram a
complete game, two hit, shut out, fifteen strikeouts, no walks.
A's w it at Baltimore three to one. They're on

(01:03:55):
a twelve game winning streak, the a's longest winning streak
in nineteen years. Staying in the Bay Area. In the NBA,
on Friday night, the Golden State Warriors defeated Denver by one.
Steph Curry twenty five of his thirty two in the
second half. Draymond Green tied a career high with nineteen assists.
Wizards on a seven game winning treak thanks to a
twenty point victory at ok See. Russell Westbrook his twenty

(01:04:19):
eight triple double of the season, his ninth in ten games.
And some college football news this morning, Ross Dellinger of
Sports Illustrated reporting that the n c double a's Football
Oversight Committee plans to recommend a reduction of full padded
training camp practices from twenty one down to eight, the
complete abolishment of collision drills such as the infamous Oklahoma drill,

(01:04:44):
and limiting teams to two scrimmages per training camp reduced
from three and a half. The n C Double A
Division One Council would still have to approve these changes
in May. Jason back to you, Thank you, Isaac. Back
here on Fox Sports Radio. It's me Jason mckin tire
and now joining US. Uh comrade of mine over at
FS one. He's been analyzing the NFL forever. He won

(01:05:06):
a bunch of Super Bowls. He's got some mangled fingers
that he likes to post on social media, and he's
with one oh four point three the fan. Mark Schlarith
joining us. Mark, how are you man, I'm good man.
How are you brother? I'm excellent. I haven't seen you
in a minute. I hope you're doing well during COVID.
But what I have seen Mark is you going after

(01:05:27):
my New York football jets on social media. You're having
fun with it. You're mocking my jets. Um do you
want to do? You want to just clear the air
on the Jets and tell everybody why you're having fun
with them. Well, because they're easy. I mean, because the
Jets are easy. Uh No, I I you know, I
think it's I think it's always interesting and um first

(01:05:50):
and foremost, you know, I am a big fan of
Robert Sala And over the years of the last four
years since I've been working at Fox, I've done a
probably nine or ken San Francisco games, so I've met
with him every single time. He's a must meet with,
unbelievable coach, great builder of relationships and connectivity. So I
just think he's tremendous. I think one of the things

(01:06:12):
you always have to remember, you know, jez fans will go, well,
now we got a new coach and we've got a
different GM, and now we're gonna be good and just
that the other and you know, and I get all
that stuff, and I understand the optimism. Um. I will
say this. When you go from being a positional coach
or a coordinator, one of the things that most coaches
love most about coaching is the connectivity you have with

(01:06:32):
your players, watching players grow, watching the light bulb go
on right, and you lose that when you're a head coach,
because you go into coaching the coaches and that really
becomes you go into the daily grind of of putting
out fires and all the things you have to do.
It's just different. So you lose some of that ability
that makes coaching great, or some of that some of

(01:06:53):
the some of what you love that makes coaching great.
The other thing I would say is, and I say
this all the time, it was not just about the Jets,
but the Jets took it personally. Don't tell me you're
gonna draft another quarterback and put that quarterback in the
same situation and expect different results. One of the things
I hate about the NFL is we put guys consistently
in positions to fail and then act surprised when they failed.

(01:07:16):
And if you don't support a young quarterback, that quarterback
is gonna fail. It's just the way it is. There's
very few unicorns that ever come into the league and
know when people will point to well, look what my
homes did, well, really, my homes took over a team
that was stacked on offense, that had two of the
best offensive tackles in football, had five receivers they get
out that could just absolutely run by people, and he

(01:07:36):
sat for a year under Alex Smith while they were
going twelve and four. Like, that's a different scenario, right,
That's a different football team. So I'm all for rebuilding
and restarting and doing those things and finding a quarterback
that you're in love with. But just understand, if you
don't support the guy, the same damn thing that is
going to happen to him that happened that that happens

(01:07:57):
to everybody else. And it's not just endemic of the Jet,
it's endemic of this league in general, because picking a
quarterback in the top five, you know, we're picking the
quarterback in the top ten, you're selling hope. Hey, look
by your jerseys. Now we're now we've got the Savior.
Now we've got the Savior. And if you look at that,
your two thousand nine or two thousand sixteen first round

(01:08:19):
draft choice is twenty two quarterbacks taken in the first round.
Not any of them are still with their team. You
put them in crappy circumstances. Don't expect them to be unicorns.
They're just not. Mark. Uh. You know you you made
an interesting point. And when I think about it, the
Chiefs had traded up to get my homes right. They
were a playoff team the year prior, I believe um
with Alex Smith, and you know, the team's drafting in

(01:08:41):
the top five historically, have a terrible owner, front office
turning over every couple of years, head coach turning over
every couple of years. And the Jets are now in
that territory, which is which is tough. And I almost
ask you, like, where are you on, Zach Wilson. I
know you call a lot of NFL games, Um, but
we're talking about a kid from e y U hasn't
played difficult competition. He's got the physical traits, he's got

(01:09:04):
the speed. He looks good on paper, he looks great
at his pro day throwing against no defense. Is this
a guy who you think has a chance to turn
it around? Yeah? You know what, until you get in there, um,
I'll tell you, Jason, until you actually line up and play,
you just never know. You don't know how a guy
is going to react. His physical traits are great, and

(01:09:25):
I you know, I just kind of rolled my eyes
when people say, well, he comes from a smaller school
or lesser competition. Oh yeah, so did Josh Allen. They
were saying that about Josh Allen as well. Um, competitors compete,
and you know you have to think also, you know
they always say, well he lesser competition. Oh yeah, well
every guy that he played with is lesser than the
guys at the big schools, right, So not only are

(01:09:47):
you playing lesser competition, but you're doing it with lesser competition.
So it's a pretty good litmus test of what a
guy is. I think the thing that I like that
about Zack Wilson better than anything else. And I love
the athleticism. I love all that stuff. I love all
the tight window throws that I see him make. I mean,
just fearless down the sideline guy has covered because in

(01:10:08):
the NFL, I think one of the things that guys
really learned, our guys have a tough time learning, is
what is wide opening college? You know what it? What
is wide opening college and what's wide opening the pros?
Is two different things. What is wide opening pro football?
Is completely covered in college to completely covered up. Yeah,
And so guys guys are afraid to pull the trigger.

(01:10:30):
They they're like, well that wasn't open, Yeah it was open,
or you gotta throw a dude open. And I saw
Zach Wilson make time and time again when I went
and just looked at him and listen, man, I'm not
covering the draft like I don't care, um honestly, you know,
but I watched enough to be dangerous. And you know
I watched. I watched Trevor Lawrence throw the guys that
are fifteen yards behind the coverage on a consistent basis.

(01:10:53):
I'm watching Zack Wilson just throw dimes all over this place.
So I I really like that aspect of Jack Wilson.
Will he survive, you know, coming from Pete Fish Utah
to to the Big Apple. I don't know. I don't know, really,
I don't know where he's really fun. But but you
know what I'm saying, like, that's that's that's tough. And
you Jet fans, you know. The thing I really am

(01:11:15):
intrigued by Jet fans, by the way, is the Jet
fans are brutal against their own team, but an outsider
comes and on their team and they're like, wait a
minute out, my kids. I love New Yorkers. New Yorkers
are easy. We are the best. Uh Mark Slayreth fs one. Mark,
let me say you the best. I said, you're easy. Yeah,

(01:11:35):
very low hanging food. Right. Uh so you're a tenth
round pick. Uh, they don't even have ten rounds in
the draft anymore, and you go and get Pro Bowls
and win Super Bowls. I don't know if you sell
the story on Richard Sherman recently. I think it was
in The Undefeated about how he changed positions at Stanford
and then he's trying to make the NFL and he

(01:11:56):
realizes the uphill climb, but he still grinds his way
out in Urias happened ahead of him. He gets in
the starting lineup and never gives it up. I mean, Mark,
when we're looking at these prospects, there's no way really
to analyze that, right. Is there the desire, the drive?
When people picked you in the tenth round, they're like, oh,
we'll take a flyer on this guy, but they did
not realize the toughness and how bad you wanted it

(01:12:19):
given your time in the NFL. Is there any way
that you can even begin to try and quantify that? No? Not,
I mean not really. You know, you try to ask
questions and you try to get a sense of what
a guy is um and his football just kind of
his football acumen, how intelligent the guy is and all
those things. But you know the bottom line is is

(01:12:41):
it's gotta it's gotta mean something to you. You know,
there's a line from an eighties band that I love
the alarm. Um, it's got to be the life blood
that courses through your veins. And um, if it's not,
let me just tell you. Playing professional football is hard,
and you know, and I always love people. I always
love it when people tell me, Hey, you know, if
it wasn't for this injury, how to play professional football? No,

(01:13:03):
you wouldn't. You know, Oh, I played for free. You
know I'd played for free if I had No you wouldn't.
You just wouldn't. You don't have the balls to do it.
And and it's and you gotta I mean the toughness
that is required both physically and mentally. Most people don't
have the stomach for And so you know, I mean,
that's just it. And you just don't know until a
guy gets on there. And the other thing is, you

(01:13:24):
see guys who are great athletes, Like football is really
easy for football player. Stations are really hard for athletes,
and so oftentimes we get enamored with athleticism. Tell me
about John Ross running the fastest forty in the history
of the combine. How's he been so far? Like, it's
really hard for athletes like you. There's got to be
something in the core of your being that says, I'm

(01:13:47):
a football player and I will put up with anything.
I mean, that's you know, that's why I had a
surgery on a Sunday night and played Monday the next day. Um,
you know you you do those things because it's important
to you. Yeah, it's real. And that's what makes the
draft so difficult. Like some of these guys, Mark are
gonna go in the top twenty and be bus because
they're just happy to get money and be and the

(01:14:08):
fame and be an early draft pick. But those guys
who are picked later and show the grit and the
tenacity to want it against all odds, that that those
are the guys you want, you know. Yeah, And I
think for for some of the guys, you know, some
of the guys were never really challenged, Like I always
get get I always get concerned when a guy was
a physically dominant creature, you know, all through college and

(01:14:31):
you know, maybe once or twice in his college career
he was ever challenged and then all of a sudden
he wakes he wakes up every Sunday morning, he's just
getting the snot beat out of him like that. That
is a heart mentally, Like that's mentally that is really difficult.
Like you're talking about Carson Wentz Well, but really I
hint him adversity and he crumbles. I'll get me out
of here, you know. Yeah, And and but it happens.

(01:14:55):
It happens to a lot of guys because it's just
not anything you ever had to deal with. And so
I think that's a I think it's a Again, I
don't know. Man, if you had the magic formula, if
you had the elixir and you knew exactly what a
guy was gonna be when he was challenged, um, you
know that that would be that would be great because
adversity is gonna happen. I mean that, like in any

(01:15:15):
walk of life, in everyone, it's a biblical promise. You're
gonna face adverse. It's it's it's all over the Bible.
Read the Bible. It's all over. Adversity is a Biblical promise.
How you how you relate to it, or how you
adjust to it, or how you react to it. That's
that's a you thing and um and unfortunately some people

(01:15:36):
crumble and and you know, and then other people, uh,
other people thrive in it. Yeah, I love it. Mark
Schlari's FS one Analyst one oh four point three the fan. Alright, Mark,
enjoy the weekend and now we'll talk to you soon.
Good to talk to Jay. Think everybody all right, Uh,
insightful stuff. I really like this this theme that he
was pushing there. Um and we'll get to that again

(01:15:56):
in the third hour. But coming up next we are
going to quickly buzzed through the oscars. Man. I I
looked during the last break at some of these best
pictures I've never heard. I was sam, this stuff is
stunning to me, Like I've just this is when you
when you hear the names of these movies, you will realize, oh, yeah,
we had a global pandemic. I didn't go to the
theater and I didn't hear or see any of this garbage.

(01:16:18):
By the way, Wonder Woman not on the best picture list.
That's next year on Fox Sports Radio. Back here on
Fox Sports Radio, boy, really good stuff from Mark Schlareth.
If you missed the interview of the podcast will be
up like thirty minutes after the show, just realized that

(01:16:39):
the Oscars are this weekend. You look at the Best
Picture nominees and it's like, what I gotta I'll tell
you that I've I have never heard of the Trial
of the Chicago seven. Yeah, what what is it? Well? Okay,

(01:17:00):
so let's let's let's um let's put a little disclaimer.
Some of these movies came out through streaming services. So
it's like this today, like last not last year so much.
It is really this this year is like all these
different movies coming from different places that didn't go through
movie theaters. So there. So there's the Trial of Chicago
seven is about Ryan bursting here, here's with us? And

(01:17:23):
I think it's about isn't it about the Democratic National Convention? Yeah?
The convention in Chicago with the protests surrounding that. Conventions
made by Aaron Sorkin. Yeah, stacked cast, Sasha Baron, Cohen,
Eddie Redmayne, Mark rylanz Uh. Where was this in the theaters?
Straight to Netflix? Yah? I gotta be honest, guys. I've

(01:17:45):
watched a lot of Amazon Prime, I've watched some Disney,
HBO Max, haven't done a lot of Netflix lately. Um. Anyways, Okay,
so the Trial of Chicago seven Sound of Metal, never
heard of it? Sound of Metal is about a hard
rock or metal drummer who loses his hearing and sort
of the trials he goes through. Um. That gentleman is

(01:18:07):
also he arizonmed. He's nominated for Best Actor. UM. That
came out on one of the streaming services as well.
That's on Amazon two. Pretty disappointing, like sad ish stories.
Huh you know those are uplifting? Yeah, and it just
gets that's a theme I I've heard that is the theme. Uh,
promising young woman. Now I feel like I've heard of

(01:18:27):
this one? Um? Right Ryan? What is that one? Um?
That is about a woman who was avenging a very
serious crime that was done to a friend of hers.
And uh, I have not. I have not seen that one.
I've only seen two of these films. I saw Trial
the Chicago Seven and I also saw Judas in The
Black Messiah, both excellent films. Oh is Judas in the

(01:18:49):
Black Messiah the one with the guy from um? Is
it ballers? Um? Maybe for Daniel Kloja from he was
in Get Out and oh no no, yeah they get it.
The from get out. That's right now. Um, I have
seen previews of that that look good back panthers, right, Yes, yeah,
that looked good. I didn't see it. Is that on
streaming as well? That was on HBO Max for about

(01:19:11):
a month, so I couldn't go watch it on HBO
Max tonight. No, No, it was part of the Warner
Brothers deal where their theatrical releases or on HBO Max
for a month. I see the first of all, I
I don't have any notifications on my phone at all,
because I don't want to be that lapdog who as
soon as you get a notification you pick up your phone.
But for HBO Max, I feel like if I knew

(01:19:31):
that was only showing for a month, I would have
I would have made appointment viewing to watch it. So
now I can't watch it. Something called manc mank Uh
it was with It has Gary Oldman in it. Um
he's a great actor. He obviously he's he played Winston Churchill.
He was in the Fifth Element as the villain. Um,

(01:19:51):
Gary old I don't really know what it's about. It's
about the I believe one of the writers are producers
of Citizen Kane and A man I remember the preview.
I think the preview was in black and white for this. Yeah,
the whole film is in black and white. It's it's
meant to to to feel old like that. That's also
on Netflix. No, no, mad Land. I've definitely heard of
the woman who like goes on the road Franman. She's

(01:20:14):
a great far ago Yep, she's been in a bunch
of stuff. Did you guys see that? No? That one
the Golden Globe for Best Drama, and that's on Hulu. Um,
I don't have Hulu. Do you do? You have Hulu?
I do so, Ryan, What do you have cable? I do? Actually, yes,
so you have cable, you have Hulu, you have Amazon,
you have Netflix, you have Hbo max or you don't
have to pay for age. He's got all the cords. Luckily,

(01:20:36):
you know, my family has some of these, so I
share some down. Um, and then I guess Minari. Yeah,
no idea what that is? That's love movie? I love
starting Steven young about I believe a Korean family. Um,

(01:20:57):
I don't know Coming of Age film love Steven. I'm
glad you got Coming of a nomination. A lot of
diverse films and a lot of diverse nominations for Best
Actor and actors. This is where we're going, right, Like, yeah,
but these are where we're headed. I mean, people are
gonna be like streaming up for Best Picture. Uh, but
that's just the reality of the time. I think in

(01:21:17):
the future it'll be a combination of streaming movies that
were big hit and then when movie theaters sort of
get revived a little bit, we hope. Yeah, Sadly, I'm
not rushing back to go to a movie theater since
we could watch things at home at our own leisure.
So we'll do a little more in the next hour
on the Oscars. I'm sure you guys are just clamoring
for Oscars MO moments. You know, you gotta figure out

(01:21:40):
what's going on. One hour left in the show. Keep
it here our number three here on Fox Sports Radio.
It's me, Ladies and germs. Jason McIntyre out here in
Los Angeles. Nine am missing my daughter's soccer game, but
getting updates from the wife, who is what a field side?

(01:22:00):
She's at the pitch? Can I say pitch? We're gonna
talk about the Super League this hour? Oh there, it
is nicely done. I lets say him. Uh, it's high
noon on the East Coast, not like the greatest sports weekend. Uh.
Next weekend is phenomenal with the NFL Draft, wall to
wall coverage, NBA season winding down. Um. Yeah, I guess

(01:22:20):
you've got the oscars, which you know we're very ill
equipped for. Um. And I'm really upset about that HBO
Max thing that I missed that window for that movie. Ryan. Um,
I do want to say I got heads up from
some people that this new show will give you a
quickly shout out to Disney Plus called Big Shot. Have

(01:22:41):
you guys heard of it? Yeah? Neither of these guys
have kids, are even married. I don't think you're married, right, Ryan?
That's correct? Definitely? Yeah, Ryan in for Gavin today. Um,
the show on Disney called Big Shot starring Uh is
that Yeah? It's a guy from Full House with John Stamos.

(01:23:02):
Yeah yeah, he Um. He's like a basketball coach who
gets kicked out of Division one because of whatever and
goes to coach like high school girls basketball and obviously
turns them around. And you know, I'm into watching these
shows with my kids now. We watched the one about
Clemson football. What was that one called on Disney Plus?
Safety safety. That was good. Your kids will like it.

(01:23:25):
My kids are eight in ten. I think that's, you know,
the window for a lot of the guys who were
listening out there, I would recommend safety, and it sounds
like big shots good. It's given the seal of approval
from several dads I know, and just hey, listen, just
because you're twenty seven out there, there'll be too cool
for this, Uh, some of these Disney Plus shows. And
obviously we're showing the kids Friday night Lights. I will

(01:23:46):
just say this, and again I talked opened the show
a couple of hours ago, talking about we went out
the pizza with my daughter's soccer team and the dads
were having beers, and I mentioned that I started showing
the kids Friday night Lights. And then I had to
preface it by saying, just as a reminder, in case
you guys have forgotten, there is a fair amount of

(01:24:08):
how do I put this, delicately um adult themed stuff,
teenage stuff that your kids may not be ready for.
And you can't fast forward on in demand, which is
really annoying. So my wife and I will notice that
these topics come up and we'll just start talking about
other stuff. Oh, yeah, did did you get your homework done?

(01:24:29):
You know, to get through that like nineties second scene
where the people are talking about adult stuff. Listen, you
gotta get creative while showing your kids good stuff. I
want to quickly, Uh, we're gonna get the Steph care
in a moment. We're doing some Super League stuff, We're
doing some NFL draft, but I need to talk about
this story. If you heard the Mark Schlareth interview last hour,

(01:24:53):
he talked about perseverity, perseverity and grit and all that
stuff that you can't quite defy. You know, we had
t a last hour talking about the NFL Draft and
forty times and the Measurables spark scores and yeah, all
that stuff matters too, But there is just there is
a level that you can't really ever know about someone.

(01:25:18):
And there's an article on the Undefeated dot com about
Richard Sherman that listen, you absolutely have to read it.
It's a must read for any kid who wants to
play sports, um, anybody who's covering sports, a parent who
has a kid and they're into sports, like and also

(01:25:39):
just for non sports people. It's just a good read.
I will preface this by saying I have not been
the biggest Richard Sherman fan. I thought he was a mouthie,
annoying guy um and he did yes block me on
social media for some comments I made like three years
ago and about Richard Sherman. And I just want to
say this article, it the inside is tremendous and it

(01:26:02):
goes into Richard Sherman's history. You know, he started out
at Stanford as a receiver, gets an injury and Jim
Harball moves him to defensive back. Richard Sherman is angry,
of course, so then Sherman goes to try to get
to the NFL to be a quarterback, and he doesn't
really have the tape, he doesn't have the numbers, but
he's a good athlete and he goes to the Senior

(01:26:25):
Bowl and he tries to make a play against Andy Dalton,
who's the quarterback, and Marvin Lewis, who was the Bengals
coach at the time, choose out Richard Sherman badly because
he bit on a fake on like a slugo or
whatever the play was, and Lewis shoot him out in
front of the whole team, and looking back, Richard Sherman says,

(01:26:47):
you know what, me just batting down the pass or
being there to try to make the play that was
not going to get me to pop. I was a
late round prospect. I needed to get an interception. Need
to do something except exceptional, not just the standard play.
So that's why I did it. So fast forward to
Richard Sherman draft night. His family thinks he's gonna get picked.

(01:27:10):
They have this huge draft party for him in Vegas
on the opening night, and we're talking first round. Richard
Sherman was not even a first round prospect, but the
family was so confident. Richard Sherman was so confident that
they had the party. Obviously, he doesn't get taken in
the first day. A lot of people are disappointed. Oh
that stinks. They don't come back. So the second day,

(01:27:32):
fewer people at the party. Richard Sherman's phone does not ring.
Day three, it's down to like Richard Sherman and like
his mom and his dad and like a cousin and
a girlfriend and they call him and Seattle says, hey,
we're you know, we're gonna take him, and we really
like this stuff. And it was Seattle and here's the quote.

(01:27:55):
Sherman went into another room to take the call, and
he returns in his whole FA only celebrating yes to
go to the NFL. Richard Sherman was stewing, I was
p I S S E D. He said it had
taken too long. Richard Sherman, on a moment he should
be celebrating, was angry because he felt like, man, how

(01:28:20):
could all these people pass up on me? How am
I still here any like? Guys? I gotta say, I
know this isn't healthy to think like that, but I
totally think like that about a lot of things. And
my wife even tells me, Jason, it's not healthy, Like
something well good will happen to me professionally, and my
first thought will be what why did it take this long?

(01:28:42):
How was this not happened? And I'm already onto the
next one, just as the good thing is happening professionally,
and she's like, you can't like go through that, and
I'm like, this is what drives me, you know, how
am I not getting X Y Z? And then it
happens and it's like, okay, Well it's still two years later,
and Richard Sherman has used this throughout his career, gets

(01:29:03):
to Seattle, is like fifth or sixth on the depth chart,
but is working his butt off. He's not angry, he's
not visibly angry. He's just internally stewing and he's working
his butt off. And then two guys get injured. Richard
Sherman gets boosted up to first team and he goes
up against A. J. Green is a rookie. What does
Richard Sherman do as a rookie against a J. Green?

(01:29:24):
Comes out talking trash, instantly, makes a couple of plays,
gets an awesome interception, never loses the starting job. Be ready.
Your time will come. It's coming. As long as you
put in the work and you stick with it, your
time will come. It's gonna happen for you. You gotta
put in the work. And there's all these memes on

(01:29:45):
Instagram that show like what everybody sees, and it's like
a lot of followers money trips, and then what everybody
doesn't see, which is working extra long hours for multiple years,
grinding away, saving money, networking. Like all the stuff that
you don't see is still happening, and all you see

(01:30:10):
are the triumphs and the great stuff. But you really
do have to put in the work. And I'm telling
you guys, I get I got hit up this week
by a high school kid, Mr McIntyre over email. You've
accomplished so much and blah blah blah. And I'm sitting
here reading this, I'm like, what have I done? I have?
I don't. I don't know my own five day week
radio show, I don't on my own TV show. I'm

(01:30:30):
not on billboards. Well, I've accomplished stuff. And I'm reading
it that way, and then I have to turn that
off and be like, Okay, you know whatever, I've done
some good things. And this kid's asking me all these questions.
He's like, can I have you on my podcast? And
I'm like, you know what, You're like a fifteen year old,
fourteen year old kid, and like you're paying attention, you're

(01:30:52):
putting in the work already. Yeah. Sure, I'll go in
your podcast and just remember, hard work will pay off,
and I will do a hard pivot on the hard
work to Steph Curry, who is another guy who just
persevered grit grinding away with his dad. Now I know
his dad was an NBA player. Is dad was no

(01:31:13):
NBA All Star? Is that It's not like Steph Curry's
dad was an All NBA second team guy. Steph Curry
is put in the work. And it's funny because a
lot of people, including at this network, FS one and
Fox Sports Radio. I'm not going to call them out
because their colleagues. You don't do that. You can call
out guys at other other networks and I would, but

(01:31:36):
nobody else calls out Steph Curry because he's so damn good.
He's done everything the right way throughout his career. Underdog
in high school, underdog at Davidson, underdog at the n
f NBA Draft where he fell to I think seventh
underdog in the NBA. Oh, Charles Barkley, a gas bag

(01:32:00):
going on television every week. Oh jump shooting teams they
can't win. Steph Curry soft blah blah blah. Okay, seventy
three wins in the regular season, doing everything right, recruiting
Kevin durand that was the right thing to do, and
people still still want to needle him and be like, well,
he does have a finals MVP, like that matters. Some

(01:32:21):
guy actually tried to build a narrative. Look at this
Steph Curry final twenty four seconds of regular season and overtime.
He's over nine shooting in his career. I mean Sam,
Steph Curry has been in the league probably a dozen years,

(01:32:43):
maybe ten. He's won two MVPs, He's won three championships.
These baronne the greatest shooter in NBA history, and this
is what we want to do. Well, he's over for
nine on shots in the final twenty four seconds of
regulation and overtime. Steph Curry has taken how many shots
in his career? Over ten thousand? How many three pointers?

(01:33:05):
Has he made a million? I don't know, And you
want to boil down into nine shot attempts. These are
the same clowns who say, well, what happened to Lebron
in those three games against the Dallas Mavericks in two
thousand eleven. Yeah, Lebron said, one of the greatest, most

(01:33:27):
durable careers in the history of the sport. And you
want to go back to three NBA Finals games he
had a decade ago. This is not about Lebron. This
is about you. This is your deal. Okay, Lebron has
broken so many NBA records and you want to go
after him for three games ten years ago he was

(01:33:48):
bad against the Mavericks. Yes, okay, you got that out
of your system. Good, let's look at the following ten years.
Let's see what he's done. And they do this to
the great Ones, to the Curry, they do this to
Lebron in the NFL. They want to do this to
Tom Brady. They're trying to do it to Russell Wilson. Oh,

(01:34:11):
they're trying to do it to Aaron Rodgers. Well, Aaron Rodgers,
you know, he's one in five in conference championship games. Okay, great,
he struggled in those. You know, football is kind of
a team sport. The coach kind of sort of matters
just a little bit. Like Aaron Rodgers was the MVP
of the league last year, undeniably, like there's really no
case for anyone else. And then his coach does complete

(01:34:34):
buffoonery at the end of the game against Tom Brady's Bucks,
And now all of a sudden, Aaron, there's this narrative
there Rodgers stinkson conference championship games. Yeah, because against Seattle
a decade ago, he's the one who didn't recover the
onside kick, right. I think they got Rodgers was at
Ricardo Rodgers or something like that, like Brandon Brandon Boston,

(01:34:59):
Thank you, Ryan Wow, what a poll like. I just
get really sick of people doing this nonsense. And you know,
I get caught up in it sometimes. Yes, I get
it happens to me. I'm not infallible. I'm not I'm
not without reproach. I think I use that correctly. I
always say, I'm I don't know. And well, J, you

(01:35:19):
pick on Kyrie Irving a lot, Jay, you go after
Russell Westbrook. Okay, I do fair, but let's just do better,
all of us, myself included. You guys call me out.
I will do better. Somebody called me out on Russell
westbrooks at Jay, Look at the Wizards. Look at that
run they're making. I started looking. I was like, damn,
they're starting Raoul Netto in the back court and they're

(01:35:42):
making a bush to the playoffs. Rui Hachimura from a
Gonzaga star, they're making a Russell Westbrook is doing the
damn thing. And he you know what, he did it
in Houston and in the regular season they were getting
scary and then it kind of fell up. Aren't there
in the bubble? But maybe we need maybe I need

(01:36:04):
to give Chris Paul some more credit. Chris Paul goes
to okay, see, okay, see instantly in the playoffs. Chris
Paul goes to Phoenix, Phoenix instantly in the playoffs. Yes,
he's had injuries, he's had some postseason meltdowns, but Chris
Paul undeniably one of the ten greatest point guards in
the history of the sport. He's no Curry, He's no Magic.

(01:36:25):
But I mean, how many point guards have There been
ten thousand point guards in the history of NBA basketball,
and he's in the top ten. So I don't know,
We've all got to do better. Eight myself included. I
have to do better as well. Coming up next year
on Fox Sports Radio, Big trade in the NFL yesterday,
we kind of broke it down in the first hour,

(01:36:46):
but there is another layer to this. We'll talk about
that next year on Fox Sports Radio. Back here on
Fox Sports Radio, got a good guest coming up here
to talk NBA. At the bottom of the hour, I
quickly want to touch on the Super League, So I
would say, what's your interest level in soccer just in general?

(01:37:08):
In general? I'd say about a three or four out
of ten. So, I mean, can you name like five
teams in the E p l uh probably Okay, Ryan,
where are you at on on Super League EPL? Interest level?
Very slight, minimum, minimal. See, And we've talked about this,
like you know, in sports, you have to have that balance, right,

(01:37:33):
you have to balance sports in life. You can't just
do sports all year round. You want to do hardcore
NFL great, you know that's five five straight months every
weekend NFL, and then college football is in the mix,
and then there's NBA and there's March madness. On some level,
you have to have that balance where you pull away
from sports. And I've largely punted on the NHL. I

(01:37:56):
you know, I don't think I could name ten hockey players.
I have of down shifted significantly in MLB. I still
watch games, you know, I'll flip through a game and
watch I'll watch postseason. But you gotta pick your spots,
and I would say, without question, EPL is a spot
that is a blind one for me. I don't watch

(01:38:19):
a ton of it. I know some of the star players,
I know some of the star teams and the games,
but ultimately I'm not a huge follower of ep L.
And as we talked about last week, I recently was
part of an investor group for a team in Liga
MX in Mexico. And what's so interesting about that is

(01:38:40):
if you look at the TV ratings for the e
p L versus Liga MX in the United States, it's
not even close. And Liga MX is watched by double
the amount of EPL viewers here in America. Now that's
obviously something that isn't talked about a lot because oh
oh MESSI right, all the all the big names and

(01:39:00):
the EPL, the history over there. But again, Liga MX
is what people are watching here in the United States.
As a matter of fact, people watch Liga MX more
than the MLS and e p L combined. And I'm
not just saying that. There are numbers to back that up.
That being said, the history of you know, the English

(01:39:22):
Premier League, all the great teams out Manchester. You know,
it's so many legendary teams over there that it is
buzzy and talked about in the media a lot and
has a lot of fans, and of course the Super
League thing happens, and you can extrapolate that to really anything.
In the last thirty years, big American money has flooded

(01:39:44):
the e p L and those owners they don't like losing.
When you come into the NFL or the NBA. It's
a winning bet. There's no relegation. I don't want to say.
I don't want to sound like one of these bozo
influencers telling people to buy the all these stocks like
doge coin. Okay, but when you buy into professional sports

(01:40:08):
teams in America, they have only gone up historically, and
that extends to Major League Baseball, NFL, NBA, MLS, NHL.
They've all gone up. TV deals have gone up, it's
all expanding. But if your team gets relegated relegated meeting,
you don't finish in the top and you don't get

(01:40:30):
to extend to the Champions League, well you don't gain
value like everyone else. And if you stay relegated for
a few years, well that's obviously bad for business. From
the TV, from the you know, game day numbers, all
that stuff matters. And so what all this American money
tried to do in Europe was let's form a super

(01:40:50):
league where we all just reaped the benefits all the time,
which that's what business guys do. But why why are
people surprised by that? If I can make a lot
of money now and then we form a super league
and I can make even more money. Why would I
not do that? Like, that's what the business guys do.
But something that doesn't exist in American sports is this

(01:41:14):
spiritual ownership, this feeling that there's an emotional contract between
the teams and the fans. You know, coaches come and go,
players come and go, but the team is there for
the fans for over a hundred years, and this idea

(01:41:35):
of having to earn your place really matters. There's no
draft like there is for the NFL Draft where they
try to balance things out there. You know, the NBA draft,
the league doesn't want the only a handful of teams
being stacked, even though that's always happened in the NBA.
They want to give Zion Williamson to the Pelicans. They

(01:41:58):
want to give Anthony Davis to the worst team in
the league. They want to they want to help the
worst teams and boost them up. There's none of that
in Europe. You gotta earn your place. That is central
to the soul of soccer. In Europe. You have to
earn your place. And you know that's kind of a
deal in life, right, You've gotta earn your place. You

(01:42:19):
gotta work for it. Nothing's getting handed to you. You
get handed anything the way in American sports. Yeah, the
Jets and the Jags stink, but guess what, they're gonna
have a crack at Trevor Lawrence and Zack Wilson and
have a chance to get better. And you know European soccer,
with the American rich guys going over there, they wanted

(01:42:42):
the same deal that they have here and that just
wasn't gonna fly. It just wasn't. And it's super interesting
to see the push pushback was instant. And I will
say the messaging was a little clumsy. You know how
we've knocked the messaging on masks in America to see
you seems like you don't really need to wear a mask. No,
you need a mask. You needed you need to really

(01:43:04):
mask up indoor outdoor. And it's just been uneven in
a little clumsy at times. And that happens is you know,
it hasn't been great. Now they're saying, you don't really
need a mask outside. So week one of my daughter's
soccer league, you had to wear a mask in the
whole game, and the kids are like gas running around
without with the mask on. So they pull it down.

(01:43:25):
The referees like pull your mask up, but it's like,
come on, and now a week later you don't need
to wear a mask outside. Well, I mean, come on, guys,
what are we doing? Uneven messaging? It has not been good,
and the messaging for the Super League was awful from
the jump and it's failed spectacularly. But I'll tell you this,
that pipe dream is not going away. It's certainly there's

(01:43:46):
just too much money left on the table for it
to go away. Coming up next year Fox Sports Radio,
we'll talk to a Warriors beat writer on whether Steph
Curry can get to the playing game when the m
v P because you know we love Steph Curry around here.
That's next. But first, here's Isaac Loewen Crown with both
trending in sports Jason who was a memorable Friday night

(01:44:06):
in Los Angeles for San Diego Padres superstar Fernando Tatis
Junior hitting two home runs at Dodger Stadium at a
six to one victory, twenty two years to the day
that his father hit two Grand slams in the same
inning at Dodger Stadium. Afterwards for Nando Tatis Junior tweeting

(01:44:27):
all credit to you, Dad, You created this. Now we
celebrate together today's NBA Action tips off at the top
of the hour from Madison Square, Garden. Ah. Yes, what
a magic game winning streak of them. Of their own, Jason,

(01:44:57):
we got a couple of interesting college football items for you.
First of all, this morning, Rob Gronkowski set a Guinness
World Record when he caught a football that was dropped
from a helicopter hovering six hundred feet in the air
over Arizona Stadium in Tucson. He was there for the

(01:45:19):
Wildcats spring game. Gronk, of course, played his college football
at Arizona. He caught it from the helicopter on his
third try from six hundred feet in the air. The
previous record was set four years ago by an influencer
named Tyler Tony at five hundred and sixty three ft.
No word yet on Bruce Arian's reaction to that, and

(01:45:42):
Ross Dellinger of Sports Illustrated Reporter this morning that the
n C Double A's Football Oversight Committee plans to recommend
a reduction of full padded training camp practices from one
down to eight and the complete abolishment of collision drills
such as infamous Oklahoma Drill. The n c Double A

(01:46:02):
Division one Council still asked to formally approve these changes
in May. If so, the new version of the Oklahoma
Drill may now feature Lineman performing songs from the musical
Oklahoma instead. Jason Beck, You've always got something funny, Isaac.
Thank you. Back here on Fox Sports Radio. It's me
Jason McIntyre, joined now by a guy. We have an

(01:46:23):
Adam on the show. In a while. The Warriors were
not good last year, but during their prime run. Uh,
he was a regular here. Anthony Slater from The Athletic Anthony,
how are you man? I'm good. I wouldn't necessarily describe
it as good this year, but at least they're kind
of interesting this year. They were not last year. Yeah. Well,
I mean, listen, what are um? I think they're given

(01:46:44):
the roster uh, and the injuries to Weissman and no Clay,
I would say they're above average team. Do you you just?
I mean you see them every night though up close? Yeah? Well,
I mean they've been twenty and twenties, they're currently thirty
and thirty. They've been like two and two six say,
they've basically been five hundred all year. And the funny
thing is, I believe Vegas. But they're over under preseason

(01:47:05):
at thirty six and a half and and you know,
thirty six and thirty six and five hundred in this season,
so they've been probably, you know, record wise what they
were expected to be. It's just been such a kind
of wild roller coaster too, gets at thirty and thirty,
but generally yeah, I mean I would say this, I
think there are dangerous potential you know, seven or eight
seeds if they went in to play. Yeah, and that's
where they're headed right now now, the play and they

(01:47:28):
don't want to see Zion, I believe right now, that's
not who you want to face in the first round.
The Spurs as a play in sorry not first round.
The Spurs would be very beatable. How do you how
do you think that matchup would go for the Warriors? Yeah,
I mean Spurs wise, if you're in the nine ten,
you would prefer to see San Antonio overdoor because what
you just said, Zion is basically right now like a

(01:47:49):
guarantee like fourteen and eighteen shooting for like thirty five points. Yea. Um,
But it's funny they're about to see the Pelicans three times,
and I would think the final ten games because they
haven't played them yet. UM, and that still at least
chance actually to try to jump themselves back in. They're
kind of fading. They've just been besides Zion, who yeah,
he's made the superstar lead for a young age, they've
been really disappointing the season. UM. But the Warriors main

(01:48:10):
goal is, first of all, they have these like ambitions
are getting up to six. It's not happening. They're not
gonna hop Dallas, Portland's uh and Memphis. But if you
get in the seven eight, it's a lot more important
than being in the nine tenth side of the plane
because you have two games to win one instead of
you have to win too straight to get in. UM.
So they would prefer to play like Memphis in the
seven eight or even Portland. Portland's really not that good season.

(01:48:33):
They've just if you look at their plus minus that rating.
So I think they're their ideal situation in the plan
will be played Portland to try to get the seventh
seat and even if you lose that, then you fall
down and maybe play like the Spurs or Memphis. Yeah,
you know, it's a weird season, and you're right. Some
of these teams like Portland's you know, they go to
the what the conference championship a couple of years ago,

(01:48:54):
and now they they're looking at the roster and they're
kind of locked in. It's like, oh, I don't know
if that's going to be good long term. I do
want to ask you about the Warriors long term. Curry
thirty three years old, um having a career season and
it rivals what he did as an m v P.
I do wonder though, long term, what are the prospects
for the Warriors. The Clay situation, Draymond is just not

(01:49:15):
a score weisseman, you know, big learning curve. They do
have the Timberwolves pick next year. But like when you
zoom out and say, hmmm, is Steph Curry long for
the Warriors? I can't imagine I'm playing anywhere else. But
people are trying to build the narrative that he would
want to go somewhere else, maybe and win another ring.
He doesn't want to go anywhere else. He doesn't plan
to go anyway out. But ye're correct and like assessing

(01:49:39):
this odd place that they're in there, they're basically trying
to tie the two airs together. They're trying to try
to tie the front end of a Wiseman and in
their dream scenario, they get the fourth and fifth pick
from this Wolve situation and get like, you know, a
Jalen Sug, the Jalen Green, one of these top five
guys um and that would be their young core bridging
to the future while also you know, trying to win

(01:49:59):
another fampionship. Of Curry, we thought it was wise than
this year. He's probably a couple of years away from
being like a real winning component. Um. So then the
question becomes the summer do they try to if something
becomes available to you, try to flip your two young
assets get win now help rad the deal with the
name around here at least because he just seems like
the most obtainable potential, you know, difference Baker. But we'll

(01:50:20):
see Washington, I mean, and not only just Washington. Field
has signaled no interest, uh in breaking up with Washington.
It's been kind of odd. So if you know, I
think they want to see Clay before, and I want
to see Clay before I assess like how out of
it they are. But the reality if he you know,
he's coming off in h L and then Achilles and
not playing in two years, it's it's tough to imagine

(01:50:43):
him being even like eighty percent of himself himself next year. UM,
I still think with what they have, they would probably
be in like the four or five sixties conversation next year.
But Joe Lake is literally playing the highest salary team
in NBA history, A name, a name we haven't even mentioned,
Andrew Wiggins on the roster actually having it okay, just
making like thirty thirty three million dollars. So it's like, yeah,

(01:51:06):
I mean, there have four matches on the table. And
then we talked about this idea of getting Pravy deal
will probably be like wise in the Minnesota pit and
you throw in you know, it would have been before
the deadline. You're throwing Kelly Bright salary. Well, that would
get five matches on the books. And the type of
tacks that that comes up, it's just it's wild. Yeah.
Now they do have the new stadium, which I would

(01:51:26):
assume will be full next next season. You can't lose Curry.
But I'm curious, do you think the Warriors are in
a position? I don't know, some guy on some guys
who's not really credible floated the idea of, oh, maybe
the Warriors could make a run at somebody like Kawhi Leonard.
We know the Clippers have signed Paul George long term
early outstre last year. We'll see what happens this year.

(01:51:48):
Kauai not linked yet, uh to the Clippers for any
longer than this season. Do you think during a position
to recruit anybody, Yeah, I mean I think if you,
like you know, really were willing to pay the tax
and you just signal behind the scenes to like a
Bradley deal, Hey, you know, force your way here in
a trade and sign an extension and and and make

(01:52:09):
a run because I think you know, Atlantic spot for
a like probably deal came. They're a title contender. I
don't know where you would fit them in the ladder,
but you know, that's that's appealing to stars, go to
a good market, you know, around other superstars and complete
for a title. The Kawhi Leonards like that's it's just
very unrealistic monetarily. They can't hit him in under the
books obviously, if he's a free agent, you can't sign

(01:52:30):
and trade for him because the Hardcaps. Really the only
way you could do it is if remember how Chris
Paul wants to Houston from the Clippers. He went, he
went behind the scenes, said Houston, I want to be
there to figure it out. And then he opted into
his Clippers deal, but opted in with the understanding that
they were going to trade him, and you know the
Clippers got. I mean, it wasn't a very good trade
back because I think Patrick Beverley was like the best

(01:52:51):
thing they got. At least they got something that's Kawhi Leonard.
If he really wanted to know, the Warriors could say, hey,
opt in and trade me and maybe the Warriors who
give up or a pick um. That's really the only
way that it would happen. It feels like such a
long shot, given that they recruited him and said, hey,
can you recruit Paul George and now he's just gonna
diss them. I don't know, that seems like a long shot.

(01:53:12):
But Anthony from the Athletic, all right, let's wrap up
talking about Curry, and he's had a monster a month,
obviously setting all kinds of records. He beat Joel Embiid,
who is one of the m VP favorites. He just
beat Yokis last night. I know it's a team game,
but all this talk about oh uh, you know, Curry's
only eight or ninth or tenth in the West. Well,

(01:53:35):
you know, without Jamal Murray and yokich Uh his Denver
teams starting to fall apart, there there's a chance they
could slide down to six or maybe even seven here
in the coming two weeks. I don't know what what's
the realistic chances of Curry stealing the m v P.
I think they would have to where are they're like
eleven twelve games left and by the way, very soft

(01:53:55):
for the Warriors in Minnesota to thunder games, which basically
guarantee wins. Right now, the sounds the thunder are giving
you wins, um, I think they'd have to go something
like ten and one in their last eleven, have a
real song like not even just a narrative push. But
that would jump him up the standings, probably to like seven.
I think the only way I think the electorate would

(01:54:16):
vote for him as if they got sick. It's just
hard to see people voting for an m VC who's
in the plane tournament. I don't know why. That just
seems that just seems like the threshold to me if
I'm thinking about voters. Um, But if he did, I
mean it would be it would be a quick climb.
And as you mentioned, he's eating Yokis not just once,
twice in the last two weeks, including at a fifty
three pointer that was actually the night Murray got hurt. Um. Yeah,

(01:54:39):
so that he has three like head to head statements
because you mentioned the forty nine in Philly to beat
em bed. So he's kind of making his case for sure.
I would say he probably snuck his way into like
third place spot right now, but he just needs more
team success. Like it's just he's just got to kind
of at least get close to being out of the
plane and I think to have a real argument. So
Anthony Davis comes back, Lebron comes back, Lakers go to four,

(01:55:03):
Nuggets fault of five, Warriors go to six. I think
there's a case there, right maybe yeah, yeah, I mean, look,
he's got some marquee games coming up. I think Tuesday
they're playing Luca on T n T, and you know,
Luca is I think the Maverige just slipped into six
because Portland's really been losing. So if you beat Luca
and you can you get the tiebreaker over Dallas, I

(01:55:25):
think that gives you an outside chance to go chase
six again. I think it's ambitious. I don't think it's happening,
But if it does, like not only is that, uh
you know, get him out of the plane, but it's
just like voters, remember what just happened. We'll be talking
about they went ted and one in the last eleven
something like that. But it would have to be that,
and um, I'm not sure that's happening. He honestly, he's

(01:55:47):
he's like last night he left the game for a
little bit because his ankle was hurting. Um, you know,
he twisted his ankle in Boston. Now he's still scored
forty seven. He has the tailbone injury recently, he's he's
holding up in generally, but it does seem like that,
like absolute score. King Street seems to be stating a
little bit. He's had too a little bit worse games
of the last couple. He just looks a little bit
tired right now. Yeah, a fatigue sitting in. All right,

(01:56:09):
Anthony Slater, the athletic, good stuff. Anthony will talk to
you soon. Alright, alright, coming up next, we will wrap
up the show. It's been a good one. We'll be
back in a minute. Back here on Fox Sports Radio.
You guys know, coming up after we're done, hearing about
ten minutes up on game, LaVar Arrington, d J Whosh
Manzata and Plexico Burus. I just saw t J who's

(01:56:32):
posting on his um Instagram stories some like flag football
thing and of course this kid is dominating. I assume
it's his kid or maybe his friend's kid whatever, just
eviscerating kids in flag football. Funny story. UM. On my
wife's side, she has uh, some cousins and they're the
same age as my kids. And the daughters playing flag

(01:56:54):
football in New Jersey and I was like, wow, I
didn't know they had girls leagues. They're like, oh, it's
not an in a girls league, it's girls play in
the league with boys. And I found that cool. And
my daughter said, Dad, do we have that out here?
I'll do it. And I was like, that's the right attitude.
Let's go. And apparently, uh, you know, I asked some
dads and there are some girls doing flag football out here,

(01:57:15):
which is very cool. And you know, my daughter's got
like the uh quickness that I had as a young guy.
I never my parents would never let me play football.
They were terrified, but this is way back. They were like, oh,
you're just gonna get destroyed, like knocked the hell out.
I probably would have, um, but I still think it's
cool that you can play in a boys league if

(01:57:36):
you're a girl, that's awesome. In second grade, my daughter
did tell me they started recess. Do you know how
dumb recesses? Right now? How is recess done? By the way,
I played in a co ed soccer league as a kid.
Oh nice, yeah it was we did soccer soccer, No
big deal. Oh sorry, this is flag football? Flag football?
Oh no, no, no, you were talking just I was
talking flag football right right right? Sorry? I thought, yeah,

(01:57:58):
never mind, I played coded soccer back. But how is
the recess dumb? Tell us? So they say you can't
play basketball because everybody would have to touch the ball.
You can play soccer, but the goalies can't touch the ball.
I mean it makes a little more difficult. So like
you have to use your feet as you're the goalie.
You know, you can't put your hands up or whatever.

(01:58:20):
And it's like you can do jump rope and I'm like, wait,
so multiple people girls can do hold the jump rope,
but nobody could touch a basketball. Aren't we don't we
don't you schools move with the We know that touching
things isn't as big of a you would think transmitters

(01:58:41):
would think, Sam, it is a little crazy, like get
the pure already when you come back inside. It's California.
People do dumb things. Hey, UM, unrelated, it looks like
there's a crowd gathering outside at the corner here out
here in l A. Are you guys any idea what's
going on? I see like a tent outside and a
lot of people. I thought they were coming here to watch.

(01:59:02):
I'm seeing the reflection in the glass. I don't know
if you guys can see it. That's that's typically a
Black Lives Matter group, Okay, I thought they would. You
have fans of the show coming out to support. Obviously
we have some fans. We've I don't think we've had
many guests in the studio. I mean I could probably
count them on one hand, just because like well obviously

(01:59:23):
COVID and stuff, but even before that, like we were
phone interviews. Is fine, um, but I do like the
camaraderie of in studio. UM. I will start going back
in studio on the herd um pretty soon. I could
do some in studio, but it's like it's just is
easy from home, and uh, it's just one segment, so

(01:59:45):
it's really we're driving all the way in. I would
do it um, but then you got to get like
the COVID test the day before and all this stuff.
I will say next week, we're blowing out the NFL Draft.
Obviously here on Fox Sports Radio, I'm involved in the
Fox Sports the digital operation will be two shows, one
Wednesday on Thursday. It's like the draft is huge. And listen,

(02:00:07):
you guys don't like the NBA and I love the
NBA playoffs, but just we mentioned it in passing earlier,
keep an eye on the NFL encroaching on the NBA's
you know turf and I put turf in quotes. Yes,
the NFL's king and rules. But there's been like this
unspoken deal. Remember NFL wouldn't play Friday nights because of

(02:00:31):
high school football, right, and they don't really play Saturday
because of college football late in the season. They'll play
on Saturday because there's not a lot of college football games,
but they also really haven't done a lot on Christmas,
and the NBA decided, you know what, you guys have Thanksgiving,

(02:00:53):
that's an NFL day. Um, we'll take m Okay Day,
We'll take Christmas and we'll will blow it out for us.
But starting to feel like President's Weekend, All Star NBA
All Star weekend usually President's weekends now could probably become
Super Bowl weekend. And it's like again, yes, the NFL

(02:01:14):
is the big boss and they run stuff there the
number one Now, Um, you just wonder, what is where
does this go after that? Does the NFL? I mean,
when when do they start expanding this beyond seventeen games?
Because you know that's coming once you open the door
to seventeen eighteen. Can't be that many years down the road.

(02:01:37):
And I don't know. I would just keep an eye
on that. A fun little subplot to watch if you
you know, like to look into the future, and we've
talked about a lot on this show. Looking into the
future is difficult, Uh, trying to project where things are headed,
very difficult, especially in a field like sports and media,
which is just getting up ended by the Internet by

(02:01:59):
the day. Practical. I mean, it is insane how fast
things are changing. I mean, we talked about the oscars.
Look at streaming is changing the oscars basically so fun
show in the books. Thank you Ryan stepping in for
Gavin Hope. You had fun, um Iowa, Sam, Chris Isaac,
you guys got up on game coming up next. Everybody

(02:02:20):
have a fun, safe weekend and uh we will talk
to you next weekend. We'll do wall to wall NFL Draft.
Can't wait.
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