December 14, 2023 • 32 mins
On today’s episode, Jason discusses the NBA’s decision to suspend Draymond Green indefinitely following his latest on-court physical altercation (2:51), how Green’s unreliability could impact Steph Curry’s view on the Golden State Warriors organization long-term (7:57), Cam Newton’s assertion that guys like Dak Prescott and Brock Purdy are just ‘game manager’ quarterbacks (15:22), how Newton distinguishes which quarterbacks are ‘game managers’ and which are ‘game breakers’ to begin with (26:58) and whether or not Dak has actually already had a better NFL career than Newton did (31:19). Plus, J-Mac closes the show with his Best Bet for Thursday Night Football (38:38).
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What
is up, straight firefan, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire
for Thursday, December fourteenth. Oh boy, well, I don't even
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know where to begin, folks. Wednesday was a day faux show,
great commentary on the podcast, you guys seem to enjoy it.
And then I host a herd and I guess I
said some stuff about Cam Newton and Dak Prescott that
irked a large segment of the American supports population. Your
boy was under siege. I listen, it all rolls off
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my back. I don't care. We'll talk about that. We
have an awful, awful, putrid Thursday night football game. Obviously,
I bet the game. Keenan Allen out for the Chargers. Like,
how's anybody watching this? I mean, no key? So what
is it gonna be? Easton stick, Gerald Everett and Austin
Eckler against Aidan O'Connell. And it sounds like DeVante Adams
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is not a lot to play. I don't know about
Chosh Jacobs, like this is a bad football Maybe one
Hunter and third and Renfel will have a game. No
fantasy impact with the fantasy playoffs on the line. But
we have to start with the big news Wednesday night
that Draymond Green has been suspended, wait for it, indefinitely.
They did not even put a game number on it.
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The NBA dropping the hammer on Draymond Green. It's funny.
I decided to pop into a Warriors podcast for some
guys who covered the team just to hear a couple
of minutes what their thoughts were on Draymond Green and
their takeaway. Now this was right after the game. Their
takeaway was, oh, yeah, you know, I didn't think it
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would be that bad. Maybe a couple games and I'm
just here I heard that. I instantly turned it off.
I was like, you gotta be kidding me. A couple
of games, my take was ten. NBA went with indefinitely,
and it's like that's very open ended and like, you know,
we don't want this guy. I'm assuming the Warriors have
a national TV game on Christmas here coming up in
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twelve days, sorry, eleven days. I can't imagine that the
NBA wants Draymond Green on national television for that game.
It's like, what are we doing? Like, I don't want
him near a national audience. He's just an unhinged at
this point, crazy person who seems like he's got a problem.
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I mean, it's funny. I was, yeah, I was joking
around with some guys about Draymond Green, and this dude goes,
you know, you want your players to have a fighting chance,
not a chance of fighting, Like that's what Draymond Green
is doing, like choking out Rudy Gobert, stomping on some bonus,
sucker punching. Jordan Poole's getting into it with what's the
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name Donovan Mitchell earlier this year. I mean, he really
is unhinged and it's a little scary. Maybe. You know.
Chris Bussar I had him on the Herd yesterday and
we were talking to him. He made a decent point.
He's like, well, Dreamond could be going through some personal stuff,
you know, I mean, maybe something's going on in his
life that we don't know about and he's taking it out.
But that's still no excuse. Just because you got crap
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going on at home, you can't take it out on
you know, European centers, which he seems to be picking
on almost exclusively these days. I don't know, man, It's
it's one of those issues where the Golden State Warriors
kind of need him and they are desperate for anything
out of Klay Thompson. And by the way, we'll just
get this out of the way. Schams went on a
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radio station or a TV show or something and obviously
talked about was asked about Clay Thompson, and he said
that the Warriors offered Clay a two year deal in
the range of forty eight million dollars for Clay before
the season, and now Clay obviously rejected it, and now
there is no deal. And you have to wonder if
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Clay is having such a brutal season because he's pressing
knowing that he turned down money, he probably isn't getting
any I mean, I'm not saying on and say he's
like a minimum player. Somebody will grab him, there's value
in him. But clearly the Golden State Warriors dynasty is doomed.
And I think so the one interesting take that I
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have that I had and I was workshopping this, so
what does Steph Curry do? Does Steph Curry just kind of,
I don't know, deal with this and say, hey, we're
going to get through this, this too shall pass, or
does Steph Curry say, listen, I'm trying to catch Magic
Johnson to be the best point guard in NBA history.
Just because j Max says he I already am doesn't
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mean that I am. I need I would love to
get one more chip. I would love love to be
still on top of the league and playing relevant basketball
in June. That's what Draymond Green hears when he listens
to Steph Curry, because you know that's what Curry wants.
No superstar in his mid thirties wants to play out
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the string and be on a middling team. So Draymond
has to hear that. Clay has to know that, and
you just have to wonder what does Curry do. Does
he just say, you know what, I've had my whole
career here. I don't want to go anywhere they can
fix it. Remember Bob Meyers left traded Pool extended Draymond.
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But we can laugh and say pools a fifteen point
a game. Guy, Jay, you were so wrong thinking he
averaged thirty a game. I was. I mean, the Wizards
are hapless. But it's one of those situations where I
wonder how much does this anger Curry that it just
doesn't go well? And you go from being on top
of the league and finishing like most stars do, kind
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of near the bottom. I mean, we forget keep the dream.
Elijah wanted to ended his career in Toronto with the Raptors,
Michael Jordan Wizards. I mean, go look at the last
few years of Shack's tenure. He spent time in Boston.
Like you know, like again, I'm sure you're just happy
to be playing at that stage, but I feel, I mean,
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Curry still has a lot. He just has nothing around
him to make him look good. Defenses, it's easy to
stop just Steph Curry. He's got no teammates. So you know,
my nuclear take probably a little hot and incendiary. What
if Steph Curry was just like, guys, we had an
awesome run. You know what. I love the city, the city.
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You guys took a chance on me when a lot
of people didn't think I could do it. I'd love
it if you traded me and Steph Curry looked for
an exit ramp. Now that's very out of character for him, right,
But what if Curry asked for a trade at the
end of the season, not in the middle of the season,
but end of the season. Guys, we're not going anywhere.
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I'm still near at or near the height of my powers.
Let me cook elsewhere now. Though I'm sure the Warriors would,
you know, have to think logan hard about whether they
acquiesced to Curry or they just say, hey, buddy, sorry,
we're just we're going to fix the parts around you.
I don't know that Curry would do that. I would
give it twenty five percent chance that Curry goes and
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says I would love to be traded. I mean, we
saw how it would end it for Dame. Not well
he did get to Milwaukee, though, right, I mean, in fairness, like,
you don't want to be Dame Lillard if you're Steph
Curry on a fading team with a rebuilding with a
bunch of young guys, like, that's not it. It didn't
look good for Dame. He's on the Bucks. I don't
think they're the best team in the East. I don't
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think they are a top three team in the league.
I don't think they'll win the finals this year. But
you have to wonder if Curry's seeing that and saying,
you know what, and he gets to play with Giannas,
what superstar can I play with? In my final days
and try to win another title. Yeah, seriously, get I
know people are probably laughing, like Steph Curry. Look at
Dame Lillard. Now he never won anything, but he was Portland.
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People would say he's maybe the greatest Blazer ever. Some
people say Bo Walton, some people say Clide Drexler, blah
blah blah. You can debate that all you want, but
I'm very curious if they, let's say they missed the playoffs,
I would bump up that twenty five percent chance that
Curry has for a trade to say forty at least.
I don't think it's fifty to fifty because again, he's
a different guy. Curry's a family man. Well actually, you know,
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now that I think about it, it's not like Dame
is isn't some family man. He spent his whole career
in Portland. He just didn't win anything. Curry is the Warriors.
But then again, Jay Dame was the Blazers. So it's
just shaping up, you know. It's it's an interesting subplot.
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And as we had ner the offseason, I know you've
got the paper clips with the Kawhi and Paul George stuff.
I think you've clearly got to see what happens with
the Lakers and Anthony Davis and Lebron. I feel like
that's rock solid at this point, but it's early in
the season and we shall see. Anything seems to be
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All right, let's pivot and get to Dak Prescott versus
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Cam Newton. It's funny when I texted, so what do
you think of? What do you think we should talk about?
And he goes, Dak versus Cam? And I go, wait,
is that a thing? Why is it Dak versus Cam?
Isn't it just what Cam Newton said? And he goes, well,
you said it. It got over a million views on
the herd on social media. You got so you got
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media members coming after you. You got former players who
aren't even in the media cat chiming in, Yeah, I
think it's it's Dak versus Cam, and I did not
intend to have it like that. And I'll articulate it
for you how it went down. You know. So I
wake up Wednesday morning, go drive right in, don't look
at my phone at all, just drive right in to
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the meeting. I sit down. I've got this fire Belichick take.
It's awesome. I have heavy thoughts on Draymond Green that I,
you know, had on the podcast already. I workshop those
and they say, this Cam Newton thing is kind of wild.
I'm like, what Cam Newton thing? And then they show
me the video of Cam Newton essentially saying that Brock Purdy, Tou,
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Jared Goff, and Dak Prescott are game managers, and I'm like,
game managers? What huh? Do we know what a game
manager is. We had this big discussion, and you know,
people start to highlight, you know, Cam's career now that
he's retired. He's thirty four years old, and I was like, wait,
he's thirty four. This guy's thirty four still starting, Like
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Tyrod Taylor is thirty four older. Brian Hoyer started a
game this year for the Raiders. He's thirty four older.
I mean, there's a bunch of old Andy Dalton started
a game in Yeah, he started a game in Carolina
for uh Bryce Young, Like, we got a bunch of
old dudes in this league starting and Cam Newton, who
won an MVP, not even getting a call. Joe Flacco
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is thirty eight. He turns thirty nine next month. Joe
Flacco thirty nine years old starting again this weekend. Was
on the sofa a month ago playing UNO with his kids,
and now he's starting an NFL game, And it's like,
why isn't Cam getting a call? And you start to
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look at the end and how it ended for Cam,
and then you start digging into the numbers and you're like, man, yes,
let's rattle off the awesomeness. Cam Newton was a human
highlight reel in a similar way Michael Vick was, but
he was like six ' five and ran over dudes.
Cam was incredible in the one year at Auburn, just phenomenal.
I still remember that touchdown run against Alabama. I think
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they trailed twenty four to nothing and came back in
won twenty seven twenty four, So so it was an
amazing game. He wins the Heisman, he's the number one pick.
I still remember his first game against the Arizona Cardinals
where he's uncorking bombs and threw for like almost four
hundred yards or four hundred and twenty yards, whatever it was.
It's just like, this guy's incredible, and then you know,
he go he wins the MVP. He's dabbing all over
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the place. He was cool, he was like magnetic. You
like Cam Newton human highlight reel Again, I'm I'm not
disparaging Cam Newton, okay, And I know when you say Jay,
when you say that, you're clearly disparaging him. That's not
how it works. Cam was a human highlight reel who
won an MVP, got to a Super Bowl, lost, and
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then the career kind of petered out. He was a
big guy, took a lot of hit didn't miss a
ton of games. But then he hits thirty and all
of a sudden, it's like, ooh, he's really banged up,
and the body took a pounding. So here is where
it gets interesting. Have you guys actually taken the time
to dig into any of the numbers with Cam Newton
or is it simply Cam was a superstar. I love
him because I think a lot of people just he
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resonated with folks because he was like human highlight reel. Okay,
how about this fact Cam Newton never, not once led
his Panthers to back to back winning seasons. I had
no clue. The year before they won went to the
Super Bowl they were five, eight and one. The year
after they went to the Super Bowl they were six
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and eight. Never had back to back winning seasons. What
so some people will argue this next at well, Jay,
it's kind of depressed by what happened at the end
in New England. Not really. Cam Newton's completion percentage for
his career fifty nine percent. Fifty nine point nine, so
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close to the line of demarcation sixty, which is basically likely,
bro if you can't complete sixty percent in your passes,
you know, brock perties in the seventies, good quarterbacks sixty five,
sixty seven or up, you know, fifty nine for Cam.
And then it's like, well, oh yeah, let's take Come on,
you always talk about what people do in the playoffs.
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How is Cam in the postseason? Yeah, well let me
look that up. So Cam has a record of three
and four in the playoffs. A colleague of mine at
Fox Mark Sanchez, and I bring this up all the
time just to show you how playoff records come on
for quarterbacks. Mark Sanchez four in two in the postseason.
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That is not a joke. Mark Sanchez has more playoff
wins than Cam Newton. Like, wrap your head around that.
For a moment. Mark Sanchez and Cam's you know, big
moment was in the Super Bowl where he fubbled twice
through a pick and on one of the fumbles, the
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replays been out there for I mean years, He could
have easily dove on the ball, and he elected not
to dive on the ball, and of course they don't recover.
And after the game, Cam was ticked off. He didn't
want to do interviews. You know, like, obviously, listen, you
lose the Super Bowl, you don't want to talk to nobody.
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You're pissed, understandable, but like he was pouting. He had
the he was a young guy, he was like twenty six.
He had the hell hoodie up and he was just
like not answering questions. It's like, bro, come on, you
lost the Super Bowl, but come on, it's not that
big of a deal. Cam never won a playoff game
after the Super Bowl loss, so three playoff wins. So
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you look at the you remember the idea of Cam
Newton was actually better than the player Cam Newton. You
know now he was an MVP. That one year where
they were fifteen to one, was amazing. The defense was
incredible and Cam was outstanding. There's no taking anything away
from that. And Cam for that season completed fifteen nine
percent of his passes, thirty five touchdowns, ten picks. He
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was He was amazing that season. Nobody would take anything
away from that. So when Cam comes out on his
podcast and says, yeah, the guys now he's piggybacking off
Tom Brady who said the quarterback plays mediocre. And of
course Flacco is starting and Tommy DeVito is starting. I mean,
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he's not old, but Tommy DeVito, come on, you're telling
me you wouldn't if you could pick Cam Newton to
start a game tomorrow or Tommy DeVito, who would you pick?
Don't say Tommy DeVito there's a lot of backups who
are bad. Like I mean Jake Browning, I know he
looked good in a game or two. Come on, it's
Jake brown Like CJ. Bethard is the backup to Trevor Lawrence.
Come on, like you tell me thirty four year old
Cam Newton couldn't deliver more than a bunch of the
backups around, like Zach Wilson. So what's this really about?
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Why does Cam go on this podcast and say that, Well,
Brock Perdy MVP favorite, Dak Prescott, MVP favorite Tua who
is like twenty five to one to win the MVP
Jared Goff. By the way, all those guys have one
thing in common. They're leading their division or tie for first.
Cam decides to disparage them and say they're game managers.
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you know, the in the in the room with the
rest of the herd staff, I'm like, do we even
know what a game manager is anymore? Like he says
it in a disparaging manner, and it's almost as if like,
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if you're a game manager, you suck or you're incapable
of winning games. And of course on social media, I
just get a barrage of oh yeah, this is not
a game manager. And then it's like Cam Newton on
third and eight, scrambling running away from everybody and picking
up like twenty five yards. It's just an incredible it's like,
oh my gosh, that's not a game manager. That's a
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game breaker. Come on, Jason, you don't, you don't know anything.
Cam Newton was not a game manager. I'm like, I
just want to remind you guys. He just rattled off
a bunch of game managers and all of them are
in first place. And then we get into the nonsense
of yeah, well Cam Newton never had any teammates. He
was throwing to Steve Smith and Ted ginn and then
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we get into the granular nonsense. And this is where
people just they lose their mind. They just go off, well, yes,
Steve Smith and Ted Getty was handing off to James Stewart.
Come on, these guys were bumbs. Ron Rivera, what's he
done without Cam Newton? Ron Rivera didn't do much with
Cam Newton, right, didn't couldn't muster back to back winning seasons.
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I digress, and you just you hear this and you're like, okay,
all right, Cam wants to disparage game managers. And then
you're like, okay, well, Jared Goff, he's a good quarterback.
He's got a long way to go. I don't I wouldn't.
I mean, he made a Super Bowl, but he didn't
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win an MVP. Like I don't know, what is your
gough He couldn't really play outdoors, couldn't run immobile. Now
I look at two and I'm like, ah, he can't
really run. Oh wait a minute, Maybe what game manager
means is unathletic quarterbacks? Is that what Cam's doing is
that where Cam is going after folks and saying, yeah, well,
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these guys are game managers. They can't run over people
like me. You know, Lamar Jackson can run around people.
Patrick Mahomes can make plays with his legs. So essentially,
my read off Cam's quotes is a game manager is
an unathletic quarterback. Period, But who cares if your quarterback
is athletic. You know, you got Patrick Mahomes winning super Bowls.
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You have Tom Brady, the ultimate game manager, who was
a game manager for like the first ten years. Remember
Tom Brady's system quarterback? Remember all that crap? Yeah, but
fifteen super Bowl wins later, Like, come on, Like, so
I'll ask you just think about this for a sec.
What is a game manager? Shouldn't every good quarterback be
a game manager. You manage the game, you don't make mistakes,
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and you win the game. You make plays that are
winning and gonna help your team win, right, I mean
not to bring it back to the men's Basketball League,
but I love to do that. You know that. Obviously
I'm one of the elder statesmen on the team, but
you know, in my role as GM, I want to
put together a team of winning players. Could I go
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out and get scoring machines. Of course, I don't just
want scoring machines. I don't think they're winning players. I
want guys who are gonna set off ball screens, who
are gonna hustle on defense, who are gonna talk on defense.
And you know, We've got a couple guys that were
friendly with him, play with, play hoops with, and I've
pitched them to the group like this, this guy can
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give us some buckets whenever we need. And they're like, dude,
he's not a team player. He's just he's not like
a winning basketball player. And I'm not saying Lamar Jackson's
not a winning player or Cam Newton's not a winning player,
because football is a little different than hoops. But I
do think there is something to this idea that game
managers are negative, like brock Purty, Well, Jay, what is
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brock Purty without Deebo? Samuel and Christian McCaffrey and Brandon
Ayuk and George Kittle. Okay, what's Joe Montana without Jerry
Rice and Roger Craig and Dwight Clark? What is Peyton
Manning without Marvin Harrison and Edger and James and Reggie? Like,
you could do that all day? You can. I mean,
we could play this game with any quarterback ever, all
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the time. It doesn't it's just circular logic. It doesn't
take you anywhere. But what you can do is I
looked at a guy like Dak Prescott and I was like, well,
wait a minute, Dak Prescott has actually had a pretty
impressive career. And in the in the herd room, we
put together, you know, there's some stats and we're like, okay,
Dak Prescott's two years younger than Cam and he's actually,
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oh my gosh, wait for it, like statistically equal or
better to Cam in many categories. Whoa wait a minute,
is this real? Yeah? Oh oh it is? Yeah. Interesting.
So Dak game manager Prescott, Remember, he came into the
league twenty three touchdowns, four picks, did not make mistakes.
They went thirteen and three, okay, and he was called
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a game manager derisively. I think that was the year
with the des Brian No, no, that might not have
been the Desbrian catch. But they went thirteen and three
and then they flamed down in the playoffs. Let me
actually see if that was the playoff game. But I
just remember Dak early hey limit mistakes. Yes, that was
the Packers game thirty four to thirty one. No, it
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was a different Packers game. The one at Lambeau was
the des Brian catch. The thirty four to thirty one
was where Aaron Rodgers drew up a play in the
huddle and made some incredible pass. Do you guys remember
that one? Yeah, that was at home too. Oh, that
was a phenomenal game, and Dak was you know, you
can't blame See it's weird that this is why playoff
records don't count. I'm looking back at that box score, like,
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you can't blame that loss, that playoff loss on Dak
at home. I mean, he threw three touchdowns, three hundred yards.
He's outstanding. He did have a pick, but that Aaron
Rodgers won that game. Dak didn't lose it. So since
I brought up the playoffs, remember I said Cam Newton
three and four in the playoffs. Dak is two and four,
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the immortal Cam Newton. That's it, seven playoff games in
his career, Dak two and four, and he's two years
younger than Cam was when he retired. So you start
looking at stats, and again it really stats are in
the eye of the beholder. What do they say about stats?
They're like a bikini. They show you a lot, but
they don't show you everything, right, you know, touchdowns, yards
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per game, Like, there's a ton of stats that show
essentially that Dak is better than Cam Newton's sixty six
percent completions to fifty nine passing yards per game, higher
exactly the same amount of touchdowns, way fewer picks, higher
passer rating. And then of course all these people, well
what about the running. Okay, finally running yet Dak was not.
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He was not a big runner, and then he broke
his leg and he doesn't really run at all, and
Cam that was like one of his best attributes is
being a running quarterback. His podcast is called fourth and one,
probably because he was the original Brotherly Shove where it
was fourth and one. He's just jumping over you. You know, listen,
I'm not here to bash Cam Newton. I think he
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was an electrifying talent. I was a huge fan of him.
Fun fact, I went out and ordered the ugly Christmas
sweater of Santa Dabbing because dabbing is cool and Cam
Newton was cool and was the first guy I saw
her do the dab. Well, that's funny. Like I like Cam.
I just think historically for his career it's a little
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overblown thanks to a bunch of incredible, other worldly highlights.
But I mean, if you want to isolate, like top
five plays, I'm sure five's Cam's top five are better
than Dak's top five, and that's not an argument. But
we're talking about a career years games dropbacks. You're talking
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about twenty plays that you know are electrifying for Cam
and Dak doesn't really have that. But that's twenty plays
out of what if we're doing just assuming six hundred
dropbacks times ten seasons, we're talking like six thousand plays, Okay,
And you want to isolate twenty and say Cam was better.
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And also because he went Super Bowl when you're's here,
Gof's been to a Super Bowl, Nick Foles won a
Super Bowl. Can we just chill with that? Yes, Cam
Newton was awesome. Has he had a better career than
Dak Prescott? I think unequivocally you can say no, And
I you know, it's tough for me to even bring
up Perdy because that brought purty narratives just so crazy.
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People are just so against him, And I know I'm
gonna come off as this is, you know, disliking Cam
Newton or whatever. But again, if you want to go
look at the stats, folks, you can they're right there.
I'm not making any of this up. This is straight up.
Dak has had a better career as a passer than
Cam Newton, period, hard stop. Now Cam has him as
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a runner. Cam won the MVP and he guided Carolina
to a super Bowl. Those are things Dak has not done.
Dak's postseason leaves a lot to be desired, but you
know what, he's gonna tie sure, unless they get lose
in the first round. Dak Prescott all love as many
playoff wins as Cam come, like to second week of
January and you know what, they might win two playoff
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games and then he's eclipsed Cam and then what, well,
he didn't get to a super Bowl. He doesn't have
an MVP Okay, fine, if you're gonna judge an entire
career on one season out of eight or ten seasons,
you do that, go off, king, go for it. But
I'm gonna I'm impartial. I have no dog in this
in this race. You guys know this. I wasn't even
a huge Dak Prescott fan. I said he was a
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you know, nine, ten, eleven, twelve thirteen quarterback for a
while in the league, and Kirk Cousins was better, and
I think Kirk Cruszin's had a better career, and you know,
here's the reality, like Cam just wasn't consistent enough to
be a dominant quarterback. And anyways, so this somehow became
when I dragged Dak into it and said Dak had
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a better career than Cam. That's what set everyone off.
And all these guys got so worked up. And you know, listen,
Shady McCoy's my guy, we're friendly. He's not the biggest
Dak fan obviously, and then you know, a couple other
people got all worked up, and it's just like wow,
you know, they kept texting me throughout the day. Dude,
the TikTok of this video is going crazy. It's good
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bonkers on Instagram already this is gold, and I did
not intend it to be gold. It's just you know,
when you do your homework and you bring a lot
of facts to the table, you're probably gonna find some
stuff that other people didn't see and they don't like.
And you know, I I would love and it's not
happening obviously, but I would love to hear Cam Newton answer,
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why did you refer to these guys as game managers?
I would love to hear that because we need to.
You know, that's let's make it our cause to stop
using game manager derisively. You know what, if a game
manager is Dak this season, give me Dak. If a
game manager's Brock Bertie this season, give me that. I
mean Jared Goff game manager. They're scoring buckets of points now,
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they've had our bad run lately, and we know Jared
Goff can't play outdoors. I would never put at least
I wouldn't put GoF in this sentence, as as Cam
at this point to a way too early, Brock, way
too early. But to put to drag Dak into this,
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The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What
is up, straight firefan, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire
for Thursday, December fourteenth. Oh boy, well, I don't even
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know where to begin, folks. Wednesday was a day faux show,
great commentary on the podcast, you guys seem to enjoy it.
And then I host a herd and I guess I
said some stuff about Cam Newton and Dak Prescott that
irked a large segment of the American supports population. Your
boy was under siege. I listen, it all rolls off
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my back. I don't care. We'll talk about that. We
have an awful, awful, putrid Thursday night football game. Obviously,
I bet the game. Keenan Allen out for the Chargers. Like,
how's anybody watching this? I mean, no key? So what
is it gonna be? Easton stick, Gerald Everett and Austin
Eckler against Aidan O'Connell. And it sounds like DeVante Adams
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is not a lot to play. I don't know about
Chosh Jacobs, like this is a bad football Maybe one
Hunter and third and Renfel will have a game. No
fantasy impact with the fantasy playoffs on the line. But
we have to start with the big news Wednesday night
that Draymond Green has been suspended, wait for it, indefinitely.
They did not even put a game number on it.
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The NBA dropping the hammer on Draymond Green. It's funny.
I decided to pop into a Warriors podcast for some
guys who covered the team just to hear a couple
of minutes what their thoughts were on Draymond Green and
their takeaway. Now this was right after the game. Their
takeaway was, oh, yeah, you know, I didn't think it
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would be that bad. Maybe a couple games and I'm
just here I heard that. I instantly turned it off.
I was like, you gotta be kidding me. A couple
of games, my take was ten. NBA went with indefinitely,
and it's like that's very open ended and like, you know,
we don't want this guy. I'm assuming the Warriors have
a national TV game on Christmas here coming up in
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twelve days, sorry, eleven days. I can't imagine that the
NBA wants Draymond Green on national television for that game.
It's like, what are we doing? Like, I don't want
him near a national audience. He's just an unhinged at
this point, crazy person who seems like he's got a problem.
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I mean, it's funny. I was, yeah, I was joking
around with some guys about Draymond Green, and this dude goes,
you know, you want your players to have a fighting chance,
not a chance of fighting, Like that's what Draymond Green
is doing, like choking out Rudy Gobert, stomping on some bonus,
sucker punching. Jordan Poole's getting into it with what's the
(02:59):
name Donovan Mitchell earlier this year. I mean, he really
is unhinged and it's a little scary. Maybe. You know.
Chris Bussar I had him on the Herd yesterday and
we were talking to him. He made a decent point.
He's like, well, Dreamond could be going through some personal stuff,
you know, I mean, maybe something's going on in his
life that we don't know about and he's taking it out.
But that's still no excuse. Just because you got crap
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going on at home, you can't take it out on
you know, European centers, which he seems to be picking
on almost exclusively these days. I don't know, man, It's
it's one of those issues where the Golden State Warriors
kind of need him and they are desperate for anything
out of Klay Thompson. And by the way, we'll just
get this out of the way. Schams went on a
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radio station or a TV show or something and obviously
talked about was asked about Clay Thompson, and he said
that the Warriors offered Clay a two year deal in
the range of forty eight million dollars for Clay before
the season, and now Clay obviously rejected it, and now
there is no deal. And you have to wonder if
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Clay is having such a brutal season because he's pressing
knowing that he turned down money, he probably isn't getting
any I mean, I'm not saying on and say he's
like a minimum player. Somebody will grab him, there's value
in him. But clearly the Golden State Warriors dynasty is doomed.
And I think so the one interesting take that I
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have that I had and I was workshopping this, so
what does Steph Curry do? Does Steph Curry just kind of,
I don't know, deal with this and say, hey, we're
going to get through this, this too shall pass, or
does Steph Curry say, listen, I'm trying to catch Magic
Johnson to be the best point guard in NBA history.
Just because j Max says he I already am doesn't
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mean that I am. I need I would love to
get one more chip. I would love love to be
still on top of the league and playing relevant basketball
in June. That's what Draymond Green hears when he listens
to Steph Curry, because you know that's what Curry wants.
No superstar in his mid thirties wants to play out
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the string and be on a middling team. So Draymond
has to hear that. Clay has to know that, and
you just have to wonder what does Curry do. Does
he just say, you know what, I've had my whole
career here. I don't want to go anywhere they can
fix it. Remember Bob Meyers left traded Pool extended Draymond.
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But we can laugh and say pools a fifteen point
a game. Guy, Jay, you were so wrong thinking he
averaged thirty a game. I was. I mean, the Wizards
are hapless. But it's one of those situations where I
wonder how much does this anger Curry that it just
doesn't go well? And you go from being on top
of the league and finishing like most stars do, kind
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of near the bottom. I mean, we forget keep the dream.
Elijah wanted to ended his career in Toronto with the Raptors,
Michael Jordan Wizards. I mean, go look at the last
few years of Shack's tenure. He spent time in Boston.
Like you know, like again, I'm sure you're just happy
to be playing at that stage, but I feel, I mean,
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Curry still has a lot. He just has nothing around
him to make him look good. Defenses, it's easy to
stop just Steph Curry. He's got no teammates. So you know,
my nuclear take probably a little hot and incendiary. What
if Steph Curry was just like, guys, we had an
awesome run. You know what. I love the city, the city.
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You guys took a chance on me when a lot
of people didn't think I could do it. I'd love
it if you traded me and Steph Curry looked for
an exit ramp. Now that's very out of character for him, right,
But what if Curry asked for a trade at the
end of the season, not in the middle of the season,
but end of the season. Guys, we're not going anywhere.
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I'm still near at or near the height of my powers.
Let me cook elsewhere now. Though I'm sure the Warriors would,
you know, have to think logan hard about whether they
acquiesced to Curry or they just say, hey, buddy, sorry,
we're just we're going to fix the parts around you.
I don't know that Curry would do that. I would
give it twenty five percent chance that Curry goes and
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says I would love to be traded. I mean, we
saw how it would end it for Dame. Not well
he did get to Milwaukee, though, right, I mean, in fairness, like,
you don't want to be Dame Lillard if you're Steph
Curry on a fading team with a rebuilding with a
bunch of young guys, like, that's not it. It didn't
look good for Dame. He's on the Bucks. I don't
think they're the best team in the East. I don't
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think they are a top three team in the league.
I don't think they'll win the finals this year. But
you have to wonder if Curry's seeing that and saying,
you know what, and he gets to play with Giannas,
what superstar can I play with? In my final days
and try to win another title. Yeah, seriously, get I
know people are probably laughing, like Steph Curry. Look at
Dame Lillard. Now he never won anything, but he was Portland.
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People would say he's maybe the greatest Blazer ever. Some
people say Bo Walton, some people say Clide Drexler, blah
blah blah. You can debate that all you want, but
I'm very curious if they, let's say they missed the playoffs,
I would bump up that twenty five percent chance that
Curry has for a trade to say forty at least.
I don't think it's fifty to fifty because again, he's
a different guy. Curry's a family man. Well actually, you know,
(08:29):
now that I think about it, it's not like Dame
is isn't some family man. He spent his whole career
in Portland. He just didn't win anything. Curry is the Warriors.
But then again, Jay Dame was the Blazers. So it's
just shaping up, you know. It's it's an interesting subplot.
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And as we had ner the offseason, I know you've
got the paper clips with the Kawhi and Paul George stuff.
I think you've clearly got to see what happens with
the Lakers and Anthony Davis and Lebron. I feel like
that's rock solid at this point, but it's early in
the season and we shall see. Anything seems to be
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All right, let's pivot and get to Dak Prescott versus
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Cam Newton. It's funny when I texted, so what do
you think of? What do you think we should talk about?
And he goes, Dak versus Cam? And I go, wait,
is that a thing? Why is it Dak versus Cam?
Isn't it just what Cam Newton said? And he goes, well,
you said it. It got over a million views on
the herd on social media. You got so you got
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media members coming after you. You got former players who
aren't even in the media cat chiming in, Yeah, I
think it's it's Dak versus Cam, and I did not
intend to have it like that. And I'll articulate it
for you how it went down. You know. So I
wake up Wednesday morning, go drive right in, don't look
at my phone at all, just drive right in to
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the meeting. I sit down. I've got this fire Belichick take.
It's awesome. I have heavy thoughts on Draymond Green that I,
you know, had on the podcast already. I workshop those
and they say, this Cam Newton thing is kind of wild.
I'm like, what Cam Newton thing? And then they show
me the video of Cam Newton essentially saying that Brock Purdy, Tou,
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Jared Goff, and Dak Prescott are game managers, and I'm like,
game managers? What huh? Do we know what a game
manager is. We had this big discussion, and you know,
people start to highlight, you know, Cam's career now that
he's retired. He's thirty four years old, and I was like, wait,
he's thirty four. This guy's thirty four still starting, Like
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Tyrod Taylor is thirty four older. Brian Hoyer started a
game this year for the Raiders. He's thirty four older.
I mean, there's a bunch of old Andy Dalton started
a game in Yeah, he started a game in Carolina
for uh Bryce Young, Like, we got a bunch of
old dudes in this league starting and Cam Newton, who
won an MVP, not even getting a call. Joe Flacco
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is thirty eight. He turns thirty nine next month. Joe
Flacco thirty nine years old starting again this weekend. Was
on the sofa a month ago playing UNO with his kids,
and now he's starting an NFL game, And it's like,
why isn't Cam getting a call? And you start to
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look at the end and how it ended for Cam,
and then you start digging into the numbers and you're like, man, yes,
let's rattle off the awesomeness. Cam Newton was a human
highlight reel in a similar way Michael Vick was, but
he was like six ' five and ran over dudes.
Cam was incredible in the one year at Auburn, just phenomenal.
I still remember that touchdown run against Alabama. I think
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they trailed twenty four to nothing and came back in
won twenty seven twenty four, So so it was an
amazing game. He wins the Heisman, he's the number one pick.
I still remember his first game against the Arizona Cardinals
where he's uncorking bombs and threw for like almost four
hundred yards or four hundred and twenty yards, whatever it was.
It's just like, this guy's incredible, and then you know,
he go he wins the MVP. He's dabbing all over
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the place. He was cool, he was like magnetic. You
like Cam Newton human highlight reel Again, I'm I'm not
disparaging Cam Newton, okay, And I know when you say Jay,
when you say that, you're clearly disparaging him. That's not
how it works. Cam was a human highlight reel who
won an MVP, got to a Super Bowl, lost, and
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then the career kind of petered out. He was a
big guy, took a lot of hit didn't miss a
ton of games. But then he hits thirty and all
of a sudden, it's like, ooh, he's really banged up,
and the body took a pounding. So here is where
it gets interesting. Have you guys actually taken the time
to dig into any of the numbers with Cam Newton
or is it simply Cam was a superstar. I love
him because I think a lot of people just he
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resonated with folks because he was like human highlight reel. Okay,
how about this fact Cam Newton never, not once led
his Panthers to back to back winning seasons. I had
no clue. The year before they won went to the
Super Bowl they were five, eight and one. The year
after they went to the Super Bowl they were six
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and eight. Never had back to back winning seasons. What
so some people will argue this next at well, Jay,
it's kind of depressed by what happened at the end
in New England. Not really. Cam Newton's completion percentage for
his career fifty nine percent. Fifty nine point nine, so
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close to the line of demarcation sixty, which is basically likely,
bro if you can't complete sixty percent in your passes,
you know, brock perties in the seventies, good quarterbacks sixty five,
sixty seven or up, you know, fifty nine for Cam.
And then it's like, well, oh yeah, let's take Come on,
you always talk about what people do in the playoffs.
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How is Cam in the postseason? Yeah, well let me
look that up. So Cam has a record of three
and four in the playoffs. A colleague of mine at
Fox Mark Sanchez, and I bring this up all the
time just to show you how playoff records come on
for quarterbacks. Mark Sanchez four in two in the postseason.
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That is not a joke. Mark Sanchez has more playoff
wins than Cam Newton. Like, wrap your head around that.
For a moment. Mark Sanchez and Cam's you know, big
moment was in the Super Bowl where he fubbled twice
through a pick and on one of the fumbles, the
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replays been out there for I mean years, He could
have easily dove on the ball, and he elected not
to dive on the ball, and of course they don't recover.
And after the game, Cam was ticked off. He didn't
want to do interviews. You know, like, obviously, listen, you
lose the Super Bowl, you don't want to talk to nobody.
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You're pissed, understandable, but like he was pouting. He had
the he was a young guy, he was like twenty six.
He had the hell hoodie up and he was just
like not answering questions. It's like, bro, come on, you
lost the Super Bowl, but come on, it's not that
big of a deal. Cam never won a playoff game
after the Super Bowl loss, so three playoff wins. So
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you look at the you remember the idea of Cam
Newton was actually better than the player Cam Newton. You
know now he was an MVP. That one year where
they were fifteen to one, was amazing. The defense was
incredible and Cam was outstanding. There's no taking anything away
from that. And Cam for that season completed fifteen nine
percent of his passes, thirty five touchdowns, ten picks. He
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was He was amazing that season. Nobody would take anything
away from that. So when Cam comes out on his
podcast and says, yeah, the guys now he's piggybacking off
Tom Brady who said the quarterback plays mediocre. And of
course Flacco is starting and Tommy DeVito is starting. I mean,
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he's not old, but Tommy DeVito, come on, you're telling
me you wouldn't if you could pick Cam Newton to
start a game tomorrow or Tommy DeVito, who would you pick?
Don't say Tommy DeVito there's a lot of backups who
are bad. Like I mean Jake Browning, I know he
looked good in a game or two. Come on, it's
Jake brown Like CJ. Bethard is the backup to Trevor Lawrence.
Come on, like you tell me thirty four year old
Cam Newton couldn't deliver more than a bunch of the
backups around, like Zach Wilson. So what's this really about?
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Why does Cam go on this podcast and say that, Well,
Brock Perdy MVP favorite, Dak Prescott, MVP favorite Tua who
is like twenty five to one to win the MVP
Jared Goff. By the way, all those guys have one
thing in common. They're leading their division or tie for first.
Cam decides to disparage them and say they're game managers.
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you know, the in the in the room with the
rest of the herd staff, I'm like, do we even
know what a game manager is anymore? Like he says
it in a disparaging manner, and it's almost as if like,
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if you're a game manager, you suck or you're incapable
of winning games. And of course on social media, I
just get a barrage of oh yeah, this is not
a game manager. And then it's like Cam Newton on
third and eight, scrambling running away from everybody and picking
up like twenty five yards. It's just an incredible it's like,
oh my gosh, that's not a game manager. That's a
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game breaker. Come on, Jason, you don't, you don't know anything.
Cam Newton was not a game manager. I'm like, I
just want to remind you guys. He just rattled off
a bunch of game managers and all of them are
in first place. And then we get into the nonsense
of yeah, well Cam Newton never had any teammates. He
was throwing to Steve Smith and Ted ginn and then
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we get into the granular nonsense. And this is where
people just they lose their mind. They just go off, well, yes,
Steve Smith and Ted Getty was handing off to James Stewart.
Come on, these guys were bumbs. Ron Rivera, what's he
done without Cam Newton? Ron Rivera didn't do much with
Cam Newton, right, didn't couldn't muster back to back winning seasons.
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I digress, and you just you hear this and you're like, okay,
all right, Cam wants to disparage game managers. And then
you're like, okay, well, Jared Goff, he's a good quarterback.
He's got a long way to go. I don't I wouldn't.
I mean, he made a Super Bowl, but he didn't
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win an MVP. Like I don't know, what is your
gough He couldn't really play outdoors, couldn't run immobile. Now
I look at two and I'm like, ah, he can't
really run. Oh wait a minute, Maybe what game manager
means is unathletic quarterbacks? Is that what Cam's doing is
that where Cam is going after folks and saying, yeah, well,
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these guys are game managers. They can't run over people
like me. You know, Lamar Jackson can run around people.
Patrick Mahomes can make plays with his legs. So essentially,
my read off Cam's quotes is a game manager is
an unathletic quarterback. Period, But who cares if your quarterback
is athletic. You know, you got Patrick Mahomes winning super Bowls.
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You have Tom Brady, the ultimate game manager, who was
a game manager for like the first ten years. Remember
Tom Brady's system quarterback? Remember all that crap? Yeah, but
fifteen super Bowl wins later, Like, come on, Like, so
I'll ask you just think about this for a sec.
What is a game manager? Shouldn't every good quarterback be
a game manager. You manage the game, you don't make mistakes,
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and you win the game. You make plays that are
winning and gonna help your team win, right, I mean
not to bring it back to the men's Basketball League,
but I love to do that. You know that. Obviously
I'm one of the elder statesmen on the team, but
you know, in my role as GM, I want to
put together a team of winning players. Could I go
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out and get scoring machines. Of course, I don't just
want scoring machines. I don't think they're winning players. I
want guys who are gonna set off ball screens, who
are gonna hustle on defense, who are gonna talk on defense.
And you know, We've got a couple guys that were
friendly with him, play with, play hoops with, and I've
pitched them to the group like this, this guy can
(22:58):
give us some buckets whenever we need. And they're like, dude,
he's not a team player. He's just he's not like
a winning basketball player. And I'm not saying Lamar Jackson's
not a winning player or Cam Newton's not a winning player,
because football is a little different than hoops. But I
do think there is something to this idea that game
managers are negative, like brock Purty, Well, Jay, what is
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brock Purty without Deebo? Samuel and Christian McCaffrey and Brandon
Ayuk and George Kittle. Okay, what's Joe Montana without Jerry
Rice and Roger Craig and Dwight Clark? What is Peyton
Manning without Marvin Harrison and Edger and James and Reggie? Like,
you could do that all day? You can. I mean,
we could play this game with any quarterback ever, all
(23:43):
the time. It doesn't it's just circular logic. It doesn't
take you anywhere. But what you can do is I
looked at a guy like Dak Prescott and I was like, well,
wait a minute, Dak Prescott has actually had a pretty
impressive career. And in the in the herd room, we
put together, you know, there's some stats and we're like, okay,
Dak Prescott's two years younger than Cam and he's actually,
(24:06):
oh my gosh, wait for it, like statistically equal or
better to Cam in many categories. Whoa wait a minute,
is this real? Yeah? Oh oh it is? Yeah. Interesting.
So Dak game manager Prescott, Remember, he came into the
league twenty three touchdowns, four picks, did not make mistakes.
They went thirteen and three, okay, and he was called
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a game manager derisively. I think that was the year
with the des Brian No, no, that might not have
been the Desbrian catch. But they went thirteen and three
and then they flamed down in the playoffs. Let me
actually see if that was the playoff game. But I
just remember Dak early hey limit mistakes. Yes, that was
the Packers game thirty four to thirty one. No, it
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was a different Packers game. The one at Lambeau was
the des Brian catch. The thirty four to thirty one
was where Aaron Rodgers drew up a play in the
huddle and made some incredible pass. Do you guys remember
that one? Yeah, that was at home too. Oh, that
was a phenomenal game, and Dak was you know, you
can't blame See it's weird that this is why playoff
records don't count. I'm looking back at that box score, like,
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you can't blame that loss, that playoff loss on Dak
at home. I mean, he threw three touchdowns, three hundred yards.
He's outstanding. He did have a pick, but that Aaron
Rodgers won that game. Dak didn't lose it. So since
I brought up the playoffs, remember I said Cam Newton
three and four in the playoffs. Dak is two and four,
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the immortal Cam Newton. That's it, seven playoff games in
his career, Dak two and four, and he's two years
younger than Cam was when he retired. So you start
looking at stats, and again it really stats are in
the eye of the beholder. What do they say about stats?
They're like a bikini. They show you a lot, but
they don't show you everything, right, you know, touchdowns, yards
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per game, Like, there's a ton of stats that show
essentially that Dak is better than Cam Newton's sixty six
percent completions to fifty nine passing yards per game, higher
exactly the same amount of touchdowns, way fewer picks, higher
passer rating. And then of course all these people, well
what about the running. Okay, finally running yet Dak was not.
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He was not a big runner, and then he broke
his leg and he doesn't really run at all, and
Cam that was like one of his best attributes is
being a running quarterback. His podcast is called fourth and one,
probably because he was the original Brotherly Shove where it
was fourth and one. He's just jumping over you. You know, listen,
I'm not here to bash Cam Newton. I think he
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was an electrifying talent. I was a huge fan of him.
Fun fact, I went out and ordered the ugly Christmas
sweater of Santa Dabbing because dabbing is cool and Cam
Newton was cool and was the first guy I saw
her do the dab. Well, that's funny. Like I like Cam.
I just think historically for his career it's a little
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overblown thanks to a bunch of incredible, other worldly highlights.
But I mean, if you want to isolate, like top
five plays, I'm sure five's Cam's top five are better
than Dak's top five, and that's not an argument. But
we're talking about a career years games dropbacks. You're talking
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about twenty plays that you know are electrifying for Cam
and Dak doesn't really have that. But that's twenty plays
out of what if we're doing just assuming six hundred
dropbacks times ten seasons, we're talking like six thousand plays, Okay,
And you want to isolate twenty and say Cam was better.
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And also because he went Super Bowl when you're's here,
Gof's been to a Super Bowl, Nick Foles won a
Super Bowl. Can we just chill with that? Yes, Cam
Newton was awesome. Has he had a better career than
Dak Prescott? I think unequivocally you can say no, And
I you know, it's tough for me to even bring
up Perdy because that brought purty narratives just so crazy.
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People are just so against him, And I know I'm
gonna come off as this is, you know, disliking Cam
Newton or whatever. But again, if you want to go
look at the stats, folks, you can they're right there.
I'm not making any of this up. This is straight up.
Dak has had a better career as a passer than
Cam Newton, period, hard stop. Now Cam has him as
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a runner. Cam won the MVP and he guided Carolina
to a super Bowl. Those are things Dak has not done.
Dak's postseason leaves a lot to be desired, but you
know what, he's gonna tie sure, unless they get lose
in the first round. Dak Prescott all love as many
playoff wins as Cam come, like to second week of
January and you know what, they might win two playoff
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games and then he's eclipsed Cam and then what, well,
he didn't get to a super Bowl. He doesn't have
an MVP Okay, fine, if you're gonna judge an entire
career on one season out of eight or ten seasons,
you do that, go off, king, go for it. But
I'm gonna I'm impartial. I have no dog in this
in this race. You guys know this. I wasn't even
a huge Dak Prescott fan. I said he was a
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you know, nine, ten, eleven, twelve thirteen quarterback for a
while in the league, and Kirk Cousins was better, and
I think Kirk Cruszin's had a better career, and you know,
here's the reality, like Cam just wasn't consistent enough to
be a dominant quarterback. And anyways, so this somehow became
when I dragged Dak into it and said Dak had
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a better career than Cam. That's what set everyone off.
And all these guys got so worked up. And you know, listen,
Shady McCoy's my guy, we're friendly. He's not the biggest
Dak fan obviously, and then you know, a couple other
people got all worked up, and it's just like wow,
you know, they kept texting me throughout the day. Dude,
the TikTok of this video is going crazy. It's good
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bonkers on Instagram already this is gold, and I did
not intend it to be gold. It's just you know,
when you do your homework and you bring a lot
of facts to the table, you're probably gonna find some
stuff that other people didn't see and they don't like.
And you know, I I would love and it's not
happening obviously, but I would love to hear Cam Newton answer,
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why did you refer to these guys as game managers?
I would love to hear that because we need to.
You know, that's let's make it our cause to stop
using game manager derisively. You know what, if a game
manager is Dak this season, give me Dak. If a
game manager's Brock Bertie this season, give me that. I
mean Jared Goff game manager. They're scoring buckets of points now,
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they've had our bad run lately, and we know Jared
Goff can't play outdoors. I would never put at least
I wouldn't put GoF in this sentence, as as Cam
at this point to a way too early, Brock, way
too early. But to put to drag Dak into this,
I don't know. Anyways, Let's wrap up with a best
bet for Thursday. Night Football, and this is not a
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pretty win. Folks. You know, as a matter of fact,
this could be you know, we don't have the Basketball
League's over. Youth sports for the kids is over. This
might be a like Charlie Brown Christmas kind of night.
I'm open to hearing any good Christmas movie ideas, but
this game is not under any circumstances like gotta watch it,
gotta stay home. I bet the under thirty five points
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Chargers Raiders. There's some juice minus one thirteen, so one
hundred thirteen bucks to win one hundred Chargers Raiders under
Easton Stick against Aiden O'Connell. Feel the excitement, Enjoy Thursday
Night Football. Back tomorrow with a good guess for a week.
Oh my gosh, is this week fourteen already? Holy hell,
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we're there. Talk to you tomorrow
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