"Christopher Nolan" w/ Sophie Buddle

Can watching a movie make you smart? No. But it can trick you into feeling smart and that's the magic of cinema. This week we're joined by notable comedian and Sam coworker Sophie Buddle to talk all things about the king of making people feel smart: Christopher Nolan. Plus, we unpack which actresses are gay guy actresses and which aren't, what it means to view America from an outside perspective, and how LA people are having their cake and eating it too.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello all, it is Sam here with a quick announcement,
and that is that we have two Stradio Lab live
shows coming up. The first one is in Chicago on
October sixth at the Den Theater and we couldn't be
more excited. Chicago's one of our favorite damn cities in
this damn country, so we would love for you to
get tickets to that at a Sunday October sixth. And

(00:20):
then we are returning to New York on October twelfth
at the Bellhouse. So you know, as someone that claims
citizenship to both of these cities, I am thrilled to
be on sort of what I will refer to as
my homecoming tour. Please please please get your tickets now
October sixth in Chicago and October twelfth in New York City. Baby, okay,

(00:43):
enjoy The EPP podcast starts now. Welcome all to Stradio Lab. George,

(01:09):
you're being patched in from New York City and you
are just commenting on how it feels like that creates
a power dynamic.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, I just want to say off the bat that,
first of all, yes, it creates a power dynamic. You
are with the guest in the same room whereas I
am alone, as I was saying, in my beautiful, stunning
New York apartment, sort of Carrie Bradshaw's style. And so
that's one thing. Second thing I will say is this
is now the third time we've had and we can't

(01:38):
bring her in yet, so she's actually being silenced as
many women in our industry are daily daily, and I
this is the third time we've had a coworker of
years on, and I think you are not shy at
all about just going right into office gossip and office
politics right in front of me, as though I am

(01:59):
merely an eye to your gab fest.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I can't believe that you you. Of course, I'm trying
to connect my coworkers. We are we only see each
other in the office and never see each other outside
of it, and so when I see them, but.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
This is my office. But this is my.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Office, George, this is crazy. Yes, we have we Sophie
and I have never been in a room alone together.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Except one night. But George, if you feel left out,
literally just like right on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Huh, she's got joke. I love haven't even introduced myself,
and I am being literally maybe cornered.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, I want to say about the power anything.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I didn't get that packet, sweetheart.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Everybody in the North America I got that packet.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, and some people in South America.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I heard we went global. I also, whenever there is
the powerdynamic and it's and I'm the one in power,
as in someone who's in the studio, I'm like, no,
there's no power.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Don't take at the camera, don't look at it.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Do you think that this is normal? I do think
that's true. And you also like, well, you know, it's
just sort of but there's a sort of like there's
this gig. I think that happens where you're perfetually the underdog,
but then the second you get a little snippet of power,
you're immediately fully a super villain. And do you think

(03:39):
that happens to Sam When he is in the same
room as a guest, Suddenly he goes from like, oh,
I'm just a little way from the Midwest to so
our next guest you might know from after midnight.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
No, it's true.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
When he's at work, he's so baby, No, it's baby.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, it's actually like I've been fantalized myself at work
a little too much. I have that realization recently where
I was like I am capable, Like, no, of.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Course your cape. We all know you're capable. That doesn't
make you less baby.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, I'm literally like, someone do it for me.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
No, this is it's rough when we're in a room
because I also was like the latest in the room
to start.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Not that I'm talking about the No.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
This isn't about the show. That's about our job.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, And we'll be in the room and I don't
know how to I've never had like a job where
I had to learn like Excel and stuff. And so
we'll be in like a group and we're supposed to
like change something in like a spreadsheet, and then.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I just like, our computers are so far away from them.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
So it's gonna somebody should do that.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I The other time that power corrupts me is on
my birthday. When it's my birthday, I'm like, oh, suddenly
everyone's treating me like they should like this is this
is normal?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
And then it's interesting because I feel like your last
couple of birthdays, you've been Dare I say you've made
yourself smaller in the sense that you have like resisted
planning ahead and have a big event. You've been like, oh,
I'm just little old me, Like, I'll just send the
little message a day before and you know, if you're
in town, come over. If not, it doesn't matter. I'm nobody.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
That is how I've been at Is it because you're
like pulled out of New York? Is it because you.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Feel because I'm in transit? But even in New York,
I was doing it. But that's because of I was
worried about inter community politics.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yes, it's very hard when certain people in your different
groups don't like each other or whatever.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, it is really hard.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
And so I was like to say something, I don't
even know who likes who anymore. This is something I
think that your move actually threw off the balance of
my social life as well, because my nuclear chosen family
has been thrown out of whack and now I genuinely
don't really know what my position is in the larger
social order.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Oh that can be so tough.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's tough.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, Like you know, somebody like, how did it throw
it off?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I well, I feel like there was when Sam was here,
there was a nucleus of people that was like kind
of vaguely speaking, like I would say, like Sam, our
friend Max, A couple of people where I knew that,
like let's say, did't have plans on a Friday, I
could text them. We could at least get a drink.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, reliable, you're seeing them regularly.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, go do.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
That is gone, And of course I'm still friends with
all the other people, but the group element is not there.
And I actually sort of think weirdly my way of
dealing with it is like becoming more of like boyfriend
the guy, where now I'm suddenly just doing things with
Matthew and I'm less likely to try to be in

(06:34):
a group.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I think I'm doing a really similar thing because here
I don't have friends that are like just grab a
drink friends. It's always like, you know, I'm trying to
be friends with them, like it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, No, that's the hardest.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
That's the hardest part about LA and I talk because
it's like everybody that moves to LA, Like I have
a lot of friends that move from Canada to LA.
A lot of people from New York moved to LA.
And I think that the hardest part is kind of
that weird first year or two of like friendmaking, because
in New York, it's like if you want to like
hang out with somebody or grub drink, everybody's already out
and doing stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Number one.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Number two, it's like so easy to get around the city,
and so it's like if somebody's doing something, you really
hop on the subway, take two stops, like you see
them there in LA because everything is a fifty minute drive.
When you're like making plans to hang out with an acquaintance,
you're kind of like, Okay, well, I've never spoken to
this person. Do I want to drive two hours this
evening to have maybe one cup of coffee with them?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And so it's like there's so.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Many different barriers to like sparking the friendship in the
first place. That like I got a text from a
girl who I really like, who I want to be
friends with, but we've been trying to hang out for
so many months now, and it's like it's coming across
like I don't want to hang out. She texted me
and she was like, hey, because I flaked last time,
did I ruin her chances?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's like friendship and it's.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Like no, I just I don't have six hours tonight
to go to Glendale.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, so so lose my number. So not in New York.
New York is like the jump thing where people are
doing two jump ropes and you can always jump in
and everyone somehow like knows how it works, and everyone's
like jumping in and jumping out, and then you can
even leave for a few days and come back and
you know, the jump rope girls will still be there.
Whereas what LA is is people are constantly planning a

(08:14):
very complicated game of dungeons and dragons, and you are
never being told the rules. The location changes every time.
Somehow it keeps getting earlier and earlier. You get there
immediately people are already mad at you and passive aggressive.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Also you get there and everyone's like, oh we're all sober.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh my god, oh yeah, get me started. Yeah. Well
the thing is there literally isn't a standard of hangout here.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
In New York, the standard is like we'll get a drink, like,
we'll go to a bar. Yeah, and here it's like,
well are you an alcoholic? Like here people don't like
it's like, well we could get dinner and it's like,
well we'll are we married? Is something?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
So I think you have to find what somebody's regular
activities are. I think that it's kind of more personalized
because like I was like trying to make friends with
Zach Towers, you know Zach, and so I found out
that he is also a mc A list and goes
to every single movie. And so now we go to
every single movie together at the Grove and we go
and we walk around and we have a little something

(09:11):
to eat, and then we watch a movie. And so
it's like, I think that you do have to kind
of like sniff out what people are doing regularly already
and then jump into that.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, very true, more personalized. I mean, I will never
forget the experience of getting dinner. I was visiting, like
getting dinner with three people, very famous comedians. Oh and then.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I go to one of their and then I'm like
and then I'm like, okay, you know it's nine. You know,
it's eight thirty pm. We had an early dinner. It's
a Friday, it's a Saturday or whatever. What's next. We
go to one of their houses and immediately we are
all offered soft pants so that we can be more
comfortable as re loounging. Everyone else. Literally, it was almost

(09:55):
as though they had there, they knew where their soft
pants were. Like the person whose house it was was like,
here's yours, here's yours, and them looking at me and
being like, oh God, like I don't have soft pants
for you. I was like, first of all, when did
everyone change into soft pants? Second of all, it is
eight point thirty pm on a Saturday.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, I hate that this town. This town does piss
me off sometimes. Yeah, where they really do. I cannot
figure out where on the binary they are. Where I've
seen like cocaine flying around here in a way that
I've never seen in my life. And everyone goes to
bed at ten pm, And I'm like, you cannot do both.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
You have just start doing cocaine at like three pm
if you're going.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
To do that. I'm like very confused.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, No, it is so confusing.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
The thing is like there are like party groups and
then there are like sober la groups, like and I
think that they, you know, because nobody hangs out a
lot of those people are friends with each other. So
it's confusing, like.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
It overlaps in weird ways. Someone la is the truly
someone can be like in the middle of doing a
line and be like, I'm trying to live clean, like
I'm literally do.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
It's the binary is board game or the cocaine.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But also being like, you voted for the Iraq war
but also for Anne Hathaway please.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
And the thing is ketamine is ketamine is very free,
like it's like it can fit both lifestyles.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
But it can also be someone being like I'm doing
ketamine and by the way, I'm currently meditating currently that
what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Is actively meditating meditation.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, how long have you lived here? Oh? Also, should
we introduce our guest?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Please welcome?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Please, please let me join the conversation. Finally, please, I'm
please do the honors. I mean, she's your co worker.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
My coworker, Sophie Buddell.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's all now I'm in now yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Sorry, what are your girl?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Credit?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
No, I just I'm like now I can talk.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Or you've seen her all over town.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Rising star, rising star.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
You might know her from after mid Night?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
So oh what was I just saying? Here?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Like two years okay, but straight from Canada?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
So so you feel like you live here now?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:17):
I live here now. But the thing is I also
settled in the first year. The first year that I
was here that every single weekend I was on the
road doing stand up and so this is kind of
my first I feel like this is my first year.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Got Yeah, Okay, what's your favorite place to do comedy
in the United States?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I'm oh, my god, don't even ask that.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Tell me?

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Is that is that your straight thing? That question?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I don't know. I just I just got that from
a little mini tour. So I'm actually in my road dog.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Okay, what was what was your run? Where did you go?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I mean I did? It was very short. It was
like Chicago, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, DC, Philly, Boston.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
You went to the good place. I went to places? Yay, okay,
what did you Which place did you do in Pittsburgh?
Did you do Bottle Rocket?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I did you meet the owner and the girlfriend of
the owner? Aren't they so cute?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
So sweet? That was a great show. It was a
very momentous show because I think, as I've mentioned on
the podcast before, it was the night Trump got shot,
which happened like forty five minutes away from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
And so I broke the news too many people in
the audience because I came out made a joke about it,
some people were confused because they hadn't read the news yet,
so then I had to back up and be like right,

(13:31):
So that incredible joke I just made is about how
Trump just got shot about forty five minutes away from there.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
George was forty five minutes away and felt like he
got shot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I was literally like, these are going to be police
presidents at my show at Bottle Rock.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Surely mid sized comedy venues are next.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I was doing Arizona right after Trump got shot, and
Arizona very like Republican vibes, and I was doing like
shows in a like Republican area even like it was
like very Republican, And I had this joke that was like,
you know, getting shot in the ear would have killed
Joe Biden, and like, oh my god, they were like
carrying me out on their shoulders and stuff, and I

(14:10):
was like, I don't think I can do that, because
it's like that's fun to do, like in La where
there's like a bit of pushback, but then it's like
when you do it and everybody just loves it, you're
kind of like, uh, No, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's how I feel about doing like kind of hacky
you know, tops and bottoms gay jokes in like Boston,
where I started a comedy, Like in Brooklyn, there's a
sort of like winkiness to it where everyone's like, right,
we all know the archetypes of the top and the
bottom and we're all playing around with it.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Characters in Greek theater.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, it's like, what is your top and bottom joke? Like,
what is your take on the top and bottom of Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, exactly me me laugh. Boston and people just being
like he jokes it off the us like it's just
like it's.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
A very different thing, subtle. It's a very subtle.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
They like the nuance something, the different archetypes pretty much.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know, I've never done a top and bottom joke.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm trying to think if I have. Probably not. I mean,
I'm so original and well, let's to.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Say I'm original in every.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Way that's true.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I do feel embarrassed that I don't have an airplane joke.
Do you guys have airplay? Let me think, do I
have an air I don't have a single airplane joke.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, okay, so when Sam and I were on tour together,
and we would do the the our show, which is
not pre written. We would definitely do a lot of
airplane humor because we were traveling and that's like all
we do.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Airplane and city based humor.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, we were doing actually the things we don't let
ourselves do.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
A local reference Heroin. It's Heroin to me.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean, do you remember when we were in Seattle
and we figured out that three types of people in
Seattle and we were in Heaven. We were like, the
types are like outdoorsy, amazon and like nineties grunge.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yes, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I was like we were. I felt like I've never
been prouder than Oh. Local references and observation.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
It makes me feel amazing. It makes me feel so amazing.
I'm like, this is what a comedian is.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I'm a comedian.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Someone was asking me like, did you enjoy touring by
yourself more or with Sam Moore? And I was like, okay,
touring by myself. I just felt like I'm a comedian
touring touring with Sam. I was like, this is a
traveling educational circuit. Like the things we're doing here will
be studied for generations, Like it is not just me
workshopping my hour, like there are there are insights that

(16:29):
we came to that will never be able to be replicated.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Were you each doing an hour?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
We were doing like basically like a variety show that
was like inspired by the podcast Okay. We would have
like three guests at each place and we would do
segments with them, and it was all local.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
People because I don't know how often you guys have
done your hour in front of your contemporaries, but we
are all like out here on the road doing an
hour with like half filler material, and sometimes it is
so embarrassing and then I'm always like I should put
out an hour, and then I'm like half of my
jokes are like edibles are strong like softballs that like

(17:07):
work well on the road. And then I was like,
forget that, Like other people are also doing that, Like
if you're doing a full hour on the road, like
it's not all if it was all bangers, like you
would be famous.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Sure, Righttocracy, Yeah, I know, I know a lot of
a lot of famous I know a lot of famous
comedians who are pretty much all filler.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, you like touring. Touring has always I've never
enjoyed the concept the premise I.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Really had fun with false premise.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I enjoyed it with George. That was really fun and
it did I mean, never forget. When I first brought
it up in.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
You like, no, I don't want to do I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Know if I want to leave Gizmo alone for that long.
I was like, well, Sam, I think we're gonna have
to get over that.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
You're an adult.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Man comes first, okay, And when I remember the dog owner,
I did flippantly.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Sam and I have the very earnest realization. A couple
of years ago, we were like, you know, one thing
we have in common is that we both value family.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And that's kept you going I'll be here honestly. No,
I got that.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
I feel like I mean family in family first, whatever
family means to you. Yeah, because like I love my family,
but I consider like my friend's family of course.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Which is why our first yes segment, Oh my god,
is it time already? We don't have to No, we can. Also,
it's just a suggestion.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Let's do it, okay, Sophie. Our first segment is called
straight Shooters, and in this segment, we gauge your familiarity
with and complicity in straight culture by asking you a
series of rapid fire questions where you have to choose
this thing or this other thing. And the one rule
is you can't ask any follow up questions about how

(18:58):
the game works, even if you're confus then if you do,
we will absolutely yell.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
At you, well, scream great. The joke I want to
make have not allowed to violence? Okay, Sophie, Malcolm in
the Middle or Maren Morris is the middle.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
The first one, Sophie, Emily in Paris or jerem O
Harris neither oh.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Okay Sophie. Taxation without representation or correlation is not causation neither.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Wow. Okay Sophie. Riding the blue wave or residing in
a white enclave of.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
The first one.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Okay, Sophie, Hello Fresh or goodbye Earl, Hello.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Fresh, damn that's good. Okay, Sophie. Scuba diving in the
Galapagos or drunk driving to pick up your dominoes drunk driving?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay, Sophie. I feel the rush or I hear the
shush as I was talking too loudly in the library.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I feel the rush.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, White guys for Harris or big is moving to Paris.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Big is moving to Paris.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Wow, that was amazing. We rate our guests on a
scale of zero to one thousand doves, and honestly, I
know we've been getting flack because we've been being too kind.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yes, we've been too kind to our guests, in a
sort of Harvard Legacy admissions taking.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Me zero, But I really think that was like a
nine hundred and eighty doves, Canadian doves, Canadian doves.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
So about two Americans exactly, exactly you American dus.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Congratulations, Sophie. How do you feel?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I feel amazing.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I want to commend you on something which I found
to be really inspirational, which is your use of neither
very freely, like you did it one and then you
and then you did it again. It wasn't just a
little flourish.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
You know. This is something I've noticed about you that
you're really good at. Is like going into a space
and being like this is my space. Like you don't
like you're not like trying to make yourself smoler you
you are like, well where are the cups?

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Like I need a drink.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I'll literally be like I have to pee, but I
will hold it for the next two hours because I'm like,
I don't want to do.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
That all of my pee for years. But I do
need to know what the spread is. I do need
to walk around.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Feel, you know, tied to many rules. Yeah, it's really
I'm American now. I thought this was an American thing.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I I, well, it's well it's not.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I mean, well, I do like I was completely.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Flower gasted even know what to say from it.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
That was the biggest thing I've noticed about Americans is
they really hold space.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
They hold their own space.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Sophie, I have a perfect This is my premise for
your semi out of biographical sort of HBO's Girls type show. Okay,
are you ready? But it's also a hard comedy so
you can sell it in this market. Okay, Okay, here's
what it is. You're Canadian, you're moving to America. You've
heard that Americans are really assertive and really like in
your face, so you go like all the way in
the other direction. You're being just like a huge bitch

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to everyone, and you're just being this like cartoonishly.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'm slapping sandwiches out of people's hands, like you're basically
trying to act like Miranda Perusci and the Devilwaarre's product.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
But you have, like in the show, an entry level
intern job at you know, a digital media company.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
And that I immediately rise through the ranks and become
CEO of the company.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
The American.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
The way that I learned about American culture is from
Miranda Priestley and what was that puppet like America?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
What was that movie? A police?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
America Police? Those are the only two movies I watched.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'm able to say you idolized George W. Bush and
Dick Cheney. That was like, those are your divas when
you were younger. So you're like bosses to America and
it's the American tagline. She's still figuring it. Oot, that's good.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
And so question for both of you. Uh, George Bush
would or would not?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Sophie, this is so messed up.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
This is actually really messed up because.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Because because literally would and duh, but like without hesitation.
I used to do this.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I would hesitate a little bit, but I ultimately would.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I used to do this joke. That list was years ago.
I was much more in my ald era where I
would just like list off a bunch of presidents names,
to a lot of silence and be like, that's the
list of presidents that I would let rail me.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Wait, it was on the list.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I mean it was literally like everyone like, I.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Mean, it was very powerful and your.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Type is president.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
No, you do want a president and you deserve that
and you do have that.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
That's true. Yeah, the president of my household.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, whats I feel like we've gone almost full circle
with the politics of like jokingly saying you want to
fuck evil people like I think there was a point
where that was suddenly I think, especially during the Trump era,
it was like, don't say that. That's too real. You
don't want to say like I secretly want to fuck
like Peter Teel or something.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
No, you can't. Well, people on Twitter will get mad. Yeah,
they will get mad no matter what.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
But that's because we'll get mad no matter what.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
They're already mad. It's not that you made them mad,
They're already mad.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Well.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I had, Yes, So I had this experience where there
was some like this was years and years ago when
Twitter was still relevant. There was some prompt treat that
was like who is the most evil person you are
attracted to? And I just like this thought went into
my head that Eric Prince, who's the director of Blackwater,
the like mercenary military force that was used in the

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Iraq War.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I just have this memory of when I was young
and watching the news not knowing who he was, and
like walking into a room TV and being like, oh,
he's how.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Wait can we pull him up?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I yeah, wait, let me, I'll look on my phone.
Eric Prince, you said, yeah, Eric Prince Blackwater.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Eric was a k young.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh it's okay, Oh interesting, you see it. I do
see it. It's a military vibe.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Vibe. Oh he's, by the way, Betsy Devas's brother.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yes, it's true. He's like, just to be clear, one
of the most evil people who has ever I mean,
in American history.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah. I mean that's so I had this thought.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I was like, just because he doesn't make him less cute.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I mean, we separate the art from the artists, like
separate the hot from the evil.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I was like, I remember seeing that tweet, and I
was like, oh my god, if I wanted to really
get people angry, that's what I would respond. Obviously, I
would never do that, And so I was like, haha,
chuckle to myself. Scroll down a gay guy had already responded,
Eric Prince.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Wait, and that's how you met your husband?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Wow. I was like, we are so far gone, like
we deserve Trump.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
No, I mean it's yees, America does deserve Trump. No,
it's derogatory.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, it's so. I'm so jealous of both of you
and your you know, roots outside of America because you
get to be like like you gel to be like America.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
And it's like, no, it feels so good, it feels
so good.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It does feel great.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
George, what are your boots outside of America?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I grew up mostly in Greece, but I did have
just to be candid with everyone, because I've been the
keys of Greek face in the past. I did have.
I did have a six year period where I lived
in America, but I went to I mostly grew up
in Greece.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I would never accuse you of Greek face, thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I will. I will accuse you of that when I
need to.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I definitely want. I am sort of the king of
having it both ways when it comes to like pretending
I'm an immigrant like I can when it's convenient for me.
I'm like America so random, like I'm foreign. I don't
know how you guys do all this. And then when
I'm in Greece, I'm like, oh my god, how embarrassing
to be in a small country.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
No.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Same no, same, Like as soon as I moved to America,
I was very much like, you guys don't have healthcare,
like it's a human right. And then I go back
to Canada and I'm like one thousand Canadian dollars for
a weekend at a comedy club, like this is not
a real country, Like I'm not coming here anymore.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's tough. I'm always surprised when I do feel like
patriotic or something like. I remember when I went to
Japan once and I was like, Okay, can people get
buck wild yet?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
What is this Los Angeles?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
But the thing is like, and this is maybe one
of my straight things, but there are some things about
America that are cool.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Please I would, I think a lot of listeners would
the Republican Party, which we know.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
I love, right, I mean, George Bush is hot, that's
not my pall, No, but I feel like that like
the nobody believes in the American dream more than like
an immigrant, and even an immigrant like me, like I
did move here to make more money in my passion,
in my career, and then I did immediately do that.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
What no one believes in the American dream more than
write this down a white immigrant. Literally, I know this
from my parents, I know this from myself. Like, yes,
the best position to be in America is to be
a white immigrant.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
That is so true.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
And you could just sort of be like, oh fine,
oh it's easy.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh oh, I know.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I say to every single Canadian comedian, I'm like, just
move to America.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
You get so much more money. So insulting.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
That is so funny. Yeah, well, do you specifically tell
them move to La or just America.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
No, because I'm not trying to hang out with everybody.
I just think everyone should move here and have more money.
I mean expressed the wall.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Wow, I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
What what things make you feel patriotic? This is a
good question. I was recently listening to Sam and I
listened to the Slate culture Gap Best. I don't know
if you're familiar, but it is a podcast for gen
x women. Yeah, Sam and I listened to it, and
one of the hosts was saying that he took a
road trip in California and that made him feel patriotic.
He was like, wow, like this incredible.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Topography, and so what makes you feel patriotic because it's
like for me patriotically about Canada. No, I don't think
I can feel patriotic. I don't think I can feel
patriotic about a country I'm not from.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Well, Immigration's listening and they want to know.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Well, I love I love the people at Immigration. I
think that they're super cool with their questions and their stamps.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, great stamps. I do. There is something about I'm
starting to get the part of what I struggled with
with LA and California in general is I haven't understood
the myth. Like in New York it was very easy.
It was like, you know, it's nineteen seventy nine CBGB's
Lower East Side. Yeah, And I was always like yes,
like everything I do is like in conversation with and

(30:03):
here I'm like like fade done away, Like I'm like
that doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Am we need to I'm literally, uh, I'm prescribing you,
as your doctor, a dose of Joan Didion.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So that's I'm starting to get it more. Where like
it is like the part that's speaking to me is
like the natural beauty, the sort of being like the
flowing pant. I'm start starting to be like, oh, it's
about like reflection.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
I don't know that's I mean, if that's fun for you,
that's great, But I don't know. The thing is, I
think it's almost impossible to come from New York and
just enjoy it here because there's so much in New York.
There's so much to do, there's so many people to see.
This is action, there's constant action. And then you come
here and yeah, it's so slow. You're like a loose pant.

(30:51):
Like it's like it is it a retirement home, Like
it's like it is it is so hard to like
fill your your needs. Yeah, in La, like you do
have to. You do have to like adjust where you
get that action. Yeah, And so that's why I'm like
doing this full time job and then also doing stand
up every night and doing the road every night, and like,
like you have to be very.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Active alternatives Ketmine. Yeah, yeah, no, that's true.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I was just it's like I'm listening to Jenny Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I always I love Johnny Mitchell, but.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I'm hearing it differently now that I'm in CALLI.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Now you get it. Yeah, now you get it.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's different. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Wait, speaking of California and patriotism, did you guys watch
the like part of the Paris closing ceremony where they
handed it off to La No, okay, so they did
this entire thing where the premise of this video is
that they give the flame to Tom Cruise, who did
like a live stunt in Paris, and then it sort

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of cuts to him like getting on a helicopter, then
flying all the way to La, then getting to La
and then handing it whatever. And it all ends in
a live concert in like Long Beach where it's Red
Hot Chili Peppers singing one of their California based hits,
And I was like, okay, like the Red Hot Chili
Peppers with her, like it was literally what's that Charlie lyric?

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Like bad tattoos on the tent skin. It was like
being like, Wow, this does make me feel proud to
be in America, like this, like the Red Hot Chili
Peppers are to me, I'm patriotic about.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
The Red I do like, I actually do really like
the Red Hot Chili Peppers. When I first started dating
my boyfriend, he was like what's your favorite band? And
I was like Red Hot Chili Peppers, and I'm that's
not true. But like if I'm asked something it's like
what's your favorite I just say the first thing that
comes to mind. And then my problem is I have
like an attentive boyfriend, and so I'll say something like
that and then he'll like get me Red Hot Chili
Peppers tickets or something, and I'm like, I don't want.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
To go to that. I find this an attentive boyfriend
is a funny thing. I also an attentive boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, and like you can't say anything anymore because I'll.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Run with it, like I have. I remember what I
just sends to myself. Like he would be like, what
do you want to do today, I'd be like, oh,
you know what I want to do and I go
for a run, I want to like make breakfast. I
want to and it's like I'm just saying stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
And then later they're like, they're like, when are you
going to go for your run? And You're like, why
are you attacking me?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I'm like, that's just something I said in the moment
because I was feeling that in the moment.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
He said, it's like really, my boyfriend told me it's
like really hard to hang out with me and my
mom because we both do that.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
We'll both be like laying in.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
My bed being like, oh my god, we should go
for a hike today, and then masons like brushing his teeth,
putting on his shoes, and neither of us have moved,
And then my mom's like what is he doing?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
And I'm like, I boyfriend is like the daily Mail,
being like Sam's past comments every surface like a half
hour every day.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I know, it's like leave the past in the past.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
It's just like, yeah, I want you ask me what
I want to do, not what I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's literally woke. It literally woke culture. It's like you
can't say anything.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
You can't pay anything, no, And we both speak in
hyperbole all day, yes, you.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Know the way that I That's actually where I like
empathize the most with politicians, where it'll be like everyone
will be like, well ten years ago, you said this,
It's like so no.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I always when people are like when people bring up
something they wrote in their college newspaper, I'm like college newspaper, Like,
I don't even believe what I said last week.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, it's so messed up.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
No, that is I do really feel for politicians also
in that way. No, because it's like they voted on
so many things and then they're like, okay, but you
voted this on this, and they're like, that was a
long day.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I did a lot of things that day.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, it's like they're like literally so much a big statement, right,
like someone paid me to do that, Like what do
you want from me that.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
It's like maybe I don't believe to get like a
good relationship with this guy, like I was trying.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
To get more money.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
It's not like if I.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Am done that, I wouldn't even be running for president.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Like, out your blessing, Sweet, you're being weird, Like so.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
I actually, but when people are like trying to use
that as proof as to why they're like an evil politician,
like they voted on this in nineteen eighty two, I'm
sort of like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
It's a different time.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
But I will say the one exception. But then I'm
such a purist when it comes to voting for the
Iraq War, where I'm like if someone did for the
Iraq War, I'm like, oh, so you're a complete phony.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
No, that's true. It is nice to have sometimes as
a as a you know, Trump card if you will. Yeah,
it sucks that that's his name because I'm not trying
to about politics. I'm not trying to OpenD Trump and
then but that's what the cards called.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
It literally is crazy the card is called.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
It's just what that card is called.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Now, your hands are hide. That's not your fault.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
The fact that, on top of everything else, his name
just like is inherently iconic is so unfair.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
No, it's unfair.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
And he's got a like branding stuff like he's like
when he got shot and then he did like the
fist up or whatever, like like he knows how to
get a photo op.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
He's like he's very Do you guys follow literally.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Our number one creative director.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, there's this girl Cocomoco that I follow on TikTok.
That's just like it just gives like branding advice and
like that kind of thing. And every piece of advice
she gives like Trump just like does naturally, and.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I'm kind of.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well, wow, I wish.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, it's just like hard to brand, Like it's like
a hard thing to do, Like we're all comics, Like
it's hard to like I'm literally.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Well, it's hard to do. The second it becomes a
task you have to do, it's over. Like it has
to be innate. Like with Trump, he lives and breathes
branding like he was born and was like, I'm trademarking
this me being born.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
No, he should just be in marketing.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
He should literally be in marketing. Yeah, if he was
LGBTQ plus he would.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Be oh so true if only yeah, so unpair.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Actually politics is basically all marketing.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Oh my god, smart alert.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Is there's like a thing we can press?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Wait, I do want to get into the topic because
I actually am very interested in this topic. Shall we?

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Well, I think we shall, Sophie, what is the straight
topic you have brought today? And what is straight about it?

Speaker 3 (36:57):
So today I have brought in Christopher Nolan. Come on in,
Chris to me.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
What's straight about Christopher Nolan is that he empowers straight
men to think they're smart.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, in a huge, huge way.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
By just enjoying a film, Like a straight man will
enjoy a Christopher Nolan film and then we'll be like,
am I a scientist?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Totally?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah? And can I ask how do you feel about
his films?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I love them. I think they're great. I think he
picks like unique subject matter. I think that he takes risks.
I love them. But I don't.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Watch a blockbuster hit movie and then walk away thinking
I'm smarter.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
That's he makes big hit movies and that are dressed
as vegetables.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yes, they're dressed as vegetables. Oh my god, genius.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I feel so torn on him because he's someone that
I should dislike, like I like for branding purposes. Yes,
I don't want to like Christopher Nolan. No. And yet
when I see his whenever I see his movie is
I'm like, love that, love that.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
I think he's just a great filmmaker. But I have
the same problem with It's not unique to him. It's
also any documentary. I do feel like a straight man
will watch a documentary and then we'll want to talk
to you afterwards, like he made the documentary. Yeah, Like
you'd be like, oh, you haven't heard about this, and
you're like, you watched a movie.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah. I mean it's like with any of these things
that become it's like what all rock was like, It's
like certain you know, It's like how people always make
use like infinite jest as a punchline. It's like, I
have not read Infinite Jests, but I'm sure if I did,
I would probably love it. But it just is the
culture around it.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, it's like if Christopher Nolan made Infinite Jest into
a movie.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yes, we would love it.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Oh, I would love that.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah. There's also something that I respect about a straight
man living out Loud, where like in Oppenheimer, when like
the women characters were like so two dimensional in this
way that was like they were like flat, flat, flat,
And I was like, you know what, that's very honest.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
No, he's not pretending.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah I like that good.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah, No, I think so too, because it's like you
can tell a lot about him. He's not trying to
imply that he thinks women are people. Yeah, it's just
reauthenticity is good no matter what.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
No, that's sort of why I love George Bush so much.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Oh my god, living out Loud to talk about living
out Loud, Yeah, is.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
An honest guy.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Okay, wait, I love the smarter thing. I also think
there's something about his movies that they're always they're set
up that way, they're always a puzzle.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yeah, there's like a thing like you know, obviously there's
like Hero's Journey for like writing a movie. There's also
like the Nolan time jump, and it's like a line
and it exactly shows exactly how he does time jumps
in every single movie. Like it is like it is
a formula.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
And so it's like it's not like he's reinventing the
wheel every time he makes a movie. He just he
plays a lot with time jumps, which is fun to
watch and it's a little bit outside of what we're
used to seeing with the Hero's Journey, and so it's entertaining,
and he picks he picks stuff that a lot of
other people wouldn't have, Like I think like the grace
to be allowed to like just like within the industry,
Like I feel like he's allowed to take kind of

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bigger chances than like maybe a newer filmmaker whatever, and
he's got one budget and but he uses it fun
with it.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, that is a big part of it. Like he's
this sort of like last Man Left. Like so many
of these directors that were buzzy in the late nineties
through the two thousands either crashed and burned or like
had one flop and then we're put in director jail
or like ended up only doing Marvel movies, or when
all the way and the other direction that are doing
art films, Like somehow he has pulled off. Still to

(40:55):
this day his movies are hits both critically and commerce,
I mean except for Tenant and commercially.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
The thing is Tennant was confusing, like even like it's
like it's not like I'm dumb, it's like that movie
was confusing.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Well. Sometimes if I have a complaint about him, it's
that sometimes his movies just don't make sense, and he
sells it as if it's intellectual.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
I have a friend who's like, dress is really cool
and everybody thinks it's really hot, and sometimes we'll say
something that will make people be like, oh my god,
I'm so uncool. I didn't get what he said, blah
blah blah, And then I have to like always take
them aside later and be like, no, he's.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Doesn't know what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
He's not saying anything, and because he's cool, you're like, oh,
I just don't get something.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah. That's where it gets really complicated, because oh, wait,
what's the one where they go in the Dreams Inception.
That movie is like I was. I was so angry
for a full year after that movie came out because
everyone was talking about it constantly and I hated it
so much.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Why did you hate Inception?

Speaker 4 (41:52):
I thought, I thought this movie sounds so hurt No,
I don't even care about Inception.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
But why did you hate it just because everyone's talking
about it?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Well, I just didn't think it was very good, and
I felt like the twists and turns. I was like,
these just are nonsense of cold but cool.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Was that his first big hit?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
No, that was like pretty late into hold on going?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Do you do The Dark Knight before that?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah? Or wait? Is that wrong?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I mean, we're not why would we know the filmography order.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I don't even see time in a linear way.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Well, you're much like Christopher Nolan.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
We should take something from the end of the podcast
and put it right at the beginning of the podcast,
and then when people get to this part, they'll know
that we're doing the Christopher Nolan time.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
That'll be cool.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, I'm gonna just this is for everyone's sake. I'm
literally going to do a reading. Okay, Ready, Yeah, Memento, Insomnia,
Batman begins, The Prestige, The Dark Knight inception, The Dark
Knight Rises, Interstellar, Dunkirk Tennant Oppenheimer.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Wow, what a run.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Wow, he's amazing. We all walk away like Christopher Nolan
is actually so deep.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Well, and George and I actually have personal experience with
him him.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yes, we both have seen him in the wild.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I was at brunch and you know, there were maybe
four people at the restaurant, one of which was christerher Nolan.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
And that's pretty cool. That's a good spot.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I sort of love that he's secure enough in his
masculinity to have brunch.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Well, he was wearing his blazer. He was wearing blazer
out sitting outside and it was hot as fuck by
the way.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, and then I of course saw him at the
Regal Essex Crossing Theater and my friend Bobby asked him
what was he seeing and he was seeing skin am ring.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Oh is he British?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yes, great, very much so great question. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
I don't know that I would know him on site.
I don't know that I would recognize him.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I recognized him quick, and I was really surprised at
my emotional statement. I was really like so wowed. I
was like texting everyone like I haven't been like star strugging.
I was literally texting you like you wouldn't believe he's
sitting there behind me right now.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Well, I mean that is one really fun thing about
La that I'm sure it happens in New York too,
But I do feel like I do. I get a
lot of celebrity sightings in LA.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah, it's definitely more here in a fun way.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
He also, you know, he's like handsome guy like he
A lot of directors can almost have like a mousiness
to them, you know, they like being behind the camera.
They're maybe a little awkward. He's like he's confident, sexy, confident.
He's confident.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
He and so intelligentgent.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Also, his his thing with women characters is interesting because
in fact, he famously has been married for a very
long time to his wife, and she produces all his
movies and she is actually a huge girl boss in
that sense.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Do you think that it sounds like has no personality.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
He's like, no, I know, women, they have nothing about them.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, they are just obsessed with me.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yeah, they're they're they're like they like make my movies
because they're fans.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
He's like, they're attentive girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
They like listen to what.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
I'm saying and they like call like locations. Yeah, I mean,
And so.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
What do you love him from? Like you were excited
you saw him? Like, what's the movie that you're Is
there a movie that you really connect with?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Well? I loved Oppenheimer, but I loved The Dark Knight.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
What did you love about Oppenheimer?

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I think what did I love about Oppenheimer? I think
it did give me the straight guy feeling of it
made me feel smart.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
It gave me like oneization, you're learning history.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I'm learning history, and like I'm it's more than like
learning the facts where it's like I'm emotionally learning history. Yeah,
I was like, oh, like that's weird, Like no.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
But I feel that with like yeah, like a good
historical movie, when I feel like tied to the characters,
I feel like very I'm much more interested in that,
like a history lesson. Same thing about sports movies, Like
sometimes a good sports movie will make me be like,
oh my god, I love sports because I'm finding out
the ins and outs of this guy's relationship with his
father and why, like like I just didn't.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Want the drama of it. I don't really care about
their actual thing that they're doing.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Here's here's I'm about to put forth a really uh
tenuous point. You get ready. I almost think sometimes the
Nolan male protagonist is actually like woman Codd. It's like
Oppenheimer himself is like this, like Killian Murphy isn't like
a strong manly man. That's like, that's like even like

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something like a beautiful mind. Russell Crowe is much more
masculine like Killian Murphy because.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Killian Murphy doesn't have muscles. He's a woman.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Basically that's.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Love or like a like a memento. It's like the
guy can't even remember anything.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Oh my god, sterical the Dark Knight, he's on his period.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Inception. It's like he's sleepy.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Okay, you actually killed it, you actually yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
And the characters those are the men, because we don't.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
By the way, dune Kirk a bunch of twinks. That's
not what soldiers look like.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
No, that's not what soldiers.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
They're all Harry Styles.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
No, I didn't say Harry Styles is literally all.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I saw Dunkirk in theaters with my mom and she
was like all these boys are like my gay son George.
They're all twinks, so that's sort of my Yeah, you're basically,
basically Nolan, men are women. Well, he doesn't need to
write good characters women characters because the men are women.

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Maybe because he's.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I think the British people have a different sense of gender.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Well, that's definitely true.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
That's definitely true, no, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Do you like the way the theory that people on
the internet have talked about where it's like every male
lead is like dress to look like Christopher Nolan.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Kind of like Woody Allen, like how he always has
like a character that's him.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
It's like it kind of makes me like him more
because it's like, oh, your little diva.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Like oh yeah, why did they have to dress just
like you and like have.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
His like weird haircut, like they really wait, that's so true.
It's very fun.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
But maybe he also only picks subjects that remind him
of him.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
That's me, yeah, which is so girl.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Well, he's literally a Team Edward. He's like, I'm Team Edward.
He is kind of a chica.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, they're his little playthings.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I mean, he's literally at brunch.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
He's literally at brunch being like, who will Robert Pattinson
kiss next?

Speaker 4 (48:46):
When Channing Tatum becomes a little bit older, like a
little bit more like rugged, I've guaranteed Channing Katum will be.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
The lead in a Christopher Nolan movie totally.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Also, by the way, choosing Emily Blunt as the wife
that's gay, Like if were so gay, you would be
using Emily Redikowski exactly. Emily, that's a gay guy that
cares about actresses.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
And he's like, girl pretty like I don't know if
you know what this, Yeah, no, but you know what
I mean, Like, it's like that that's somebody that a
woman would be like, she's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
And then a man who Christopher write this down, Christopher
Nolan has a female gaze.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
This we always talk horseshoe theory. We always get into
horseshoe theory, and this is the most horseshoe theory.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
It's the most horses theory. Is literally Christopher Nolan, who
famously straight men Love, is actually a feminist like Chantal
Ackerman level feminist filmmaker that is writing about the women experience,
the female experience via a series of men.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
So genius, which is so genius to get men to
pay attention and.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
They're they're listening and they're learning. Wow. And I do
want to say, you had a backup topic that I
just do want to address.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I can come back.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
No, that's true, So should he not address it?

Speaker 4 (50:04):
I think bringing up When you guys asked me to
do this, I was like, I can't stop thinking of
straight stuff I love, so I have so many things.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
So your other topic was potentially Adam Sandler, Yes, the.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Other great filmmaker of our time.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I would say Adam Sandler similarly is sort of the
comedy version of Chris Nolan. His movies are also about
the female experience. It's always about like not fitting in,
not measuring up like you know. Of course, in Jack
and Jill he literalizes it by playing the female character himself,
which I.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Did not see Jack and Jill.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I didn't see, well.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Not many people did. But I think again, like uncut Gems,
that's a female character.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
He loves Jewelry and Julia.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Fox and is her responsible with money.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Also, by the way, sorry, Dina Manzealez, his wife, what
does he love? Wicked?

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Also?

Speaker 4 (50:57):
And I would say this probably to my boyfriend, and
he would turn it in to such a thing.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
So let me just this is let me just talk.
But Spanglish is my favorite movie, Sophie.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
You do not understand how close to you I feel
right now. I have so I have not watched Bannglish
as an adult, but when I was a kid and
I watched it, it was one of the first for adults. Yes, yes,
this is for adults, and I get it. Yes, And
I was like, this is so heartbreaking, and okay, I

(51:26):
have to tell you something and I'm sorry to I'm
about to do a little name dropping, and I apologize.
Is everyone ready for my drop?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
That name?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Sarah Steele, who plays the daughter. He lives in my
neighborhood and I see her around and I've met her
a few times, and I know that the last thing
she wants to hear is that I loved her in
Spanglish because she has done so much amazing work since.
But every time I see her, I'm like, you were
Literally that was one of the best child performances I've
ever seen in my life.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
I think Spanglish is the most powerful film I have
ever seen. And I actually that my boyfriend can hold
me too. I actually do feel like that's real and
like the love between like the mother and daughter and like, yeah,
it's literally have you seen Spanglish.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
No, I've never seen Spanglish.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
It's I weep. Like I watched it as a kid,
loved it, was like moved by it.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
And then I was like saw it on like Netflix,
like maybe a year or two ago, and I was like, oh, whatever,
I watched Spanglish like fun. I watched it. I cried
the whole time. I was like I had to like
cancel something. I was like, I'm a wreck right now.
This is the best movie I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Well, you know, there's also there's all these things that
are sort of archetypes that I actually saw there for
the first time. Like Talione plays a classic like jogging mom.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Yes, which my mom, almond mom.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yes, allman mom. You know, she's wearing like all spandex
and she clearly like wants to keep me keeping it together,
which is such an archetype of many movies. But I
feel like that was the first time I saw I
portrayed like that on screen.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Well, it's always so raw, like she buys her daughter,
who's like very average weight, like she buys her daughter
one size too small of a bunch of clothing and
then she's trying it on and she's like this doesn't fit,
like puts it all.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
She's like, none of this fits.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
And then the mom is like, yeah, but you're gonna
get there and you're gonna hit that way like a
growing girl mind her thing that's a little bit too small,
Like it's like it's such an amazing thing. And then
this the Mexican mom stays up all night, opens the
stitches and makes everything a little bit bigger. And then
she comes in and she learns. The first English she
learns is to say try it on, and so she

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comes in with the thing and she's like try it on,
and the girl's like, no, I tried it on yesterday.
It doesn't fit, like still so like raw from them all,
and she's like try it on and she puts it
all on, and then she's like so confused, and it's
like it's just like such an insane like who wrote Spanglish?
Like I can't even describe like how good this movie is.
Spanglish does to me what Christopher Nolan movies do to
straight men. I watched Spanglish and I'm like I understand feeling.

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I understand human emotion.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Uh huh, this is u to take.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Like Motherhood, I understand Motherhood. That's the only movie that
makes me understand motherhood.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Oh my god, wait did you know it was? It's
James L.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Brooks, Like, please provide context, jams broadcast out jas news
in terms of endearment, as good as it guess like
these classics.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
In any of those movies.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Is that Sophie that I haven't seen as good as
it gets? You have to see as good as it gets?
I mean that is like classic better than Spanish. Yeah,
I'm gonna have to go ahead and say which that's
like Jack Nicholson Helen Hunt. Like that was a huge
sexual awakening for me because Greg Keneer plays a gay

(54:35):
guy and you see his butt and I was like,
that's for me?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
What is this guy? Rule? Black rock or something hard?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Damn well?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Shout out to Spanglish, huge shout out to Spanglish. I
had no idea.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I couldn't do a bigger shout out.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I mean to takes minutes to describe a plot point
of a movie a.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Short team that we have no three minutes and the
three minute maybe.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Sorry, but literally what you just described that is that
is such significant character work for three different characters, for Mom,
for the women working for them, and for the daughter,
and just that little thing.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Sam's yawning right now. Big. I mean that's like a
big ya.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
You can't You could pay n Yu, you could go
to get fifteen BFA's at Nyu. You wouldn't learn how
to do that.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I like screaming, who wrote this? As if it's not easily.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Google a bowl, I have no way to find out
it's going to google it.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
I love that?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
So okay, Chris Nolan. Any other thoughts.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Well, the one thing that makes me not trust him
is the suit, like always wearing the suit. But I
think that's reshy.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I like that. That to me, I'm like, you're actually
serious about this, unlike some of these other directors who
are absolutely yank in our chains left and right. Well,
that's why I trust him, and that's why it's such
a betrayal when a movie like Tenant makes no sense
because I'm like, you are wearing a suit, please be serious.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
I do think that it's British because my grandpa's British
and he always wore like a wool jacket in the
summer and you're kind of like, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I think all directors should wear suits, especially women.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
By the way, I mean kind of women direct movies
in this country.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I don't know if they're allowed. I I kind of
like when directors like dress badly.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Oh, I see, You're sort of like like, I like
when it's.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Like, did you know that was a director? He was
dressed so shitty?

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
I do like seeing pictures of like Sofia Coppola on
the Marie Antoinette thing, which has just got a sloppy
T shirt on mustard stain.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I'm sure she doesn't have a mustard year.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I mean time. Approximately seventy percent of the photographs on
the internet are just Sofia Coppola behind the scenes of
Marie Antoinette.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Literally, I can't open my phone with us at this point.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I think they're unearthing new ones left and right.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
It's actually insane using because at some point you would
run out.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I recently like opened my phone and the first thing
I saw was someone had posted the like Britney Paris, Uh,
who's a third on Lindsay photo, you know, Bimbo Summit,
And I was like, you know what, I think that's enough.
We have seen this photograph enough times. I have to
move on.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Having a weird realization like stuff like that is it's passed,
like even y two k, like remembering has passed. And
it's weird because now I'm like, so we're in uncharted
waters again.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
No, it's about to be and it's already happening. It
happened with Indie sleeves and all that stuff. Like people
are gonna be like remember Santa Gold.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
No, like early two thousands.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
It's gonna be like it's gonna be American apparel.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Like yeah, it already is americanarel.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Well, that's true, and he did nothing wrong, and I
think everyone's being too weird. Everyone's been sensitive. Just let
him design his clothes.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
So early two thousands like it in ten, yeah, exactly,
it'll be like coach Hella like you.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
But also this goes back. It's like, you know, it's
like people rewatching I mean, I guess Sex and the
City his nineties, but like people are you watching gossip Girl?

Speaker 3 (58:26):
For instance, I never watched gossip Girl, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
It's so what my al and I never watched.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
I know, and I actually think that that's like a
good test for does free will exist? Because in every scenario,
algorithm wise, like that's built into us, we would have
seen gossip Girl by now, and because we haven't.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Free will's real.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
That's such a beautiful that's.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
So Christopher Nolan of me.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
That is so persona for Nolan. I was gonna say, like,
maybe you actually have seen gossip Girl, but it's like
in the timeline that you went right past you and
you don't know, but a different version of yourself is
like a gossip Girl recar Yes, oh totally, what would god?
I was about to ask a questions that it's very
unfair because it's difficult to figure out on the spot,

(59:09):
but I'm like.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
He loves to do that answer definitively with noation.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
I want us all collaboratively to come up with a
Christopher Nolan premise, you know what I mean, Like a
Christopher Nole.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Okay. So it's like, okay, so it's like, memories are
like rooms in your house.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yes, exactly, exactly, memories are rooms in your house. And
this family that is middle class but just barely is
is doing like a big remodel. Yes, and when the
different rooms are being messed with, that is literally messing
with their internal memories and guess what. Okay, sorry, and
I'm answering my own question and actually taking a credibit.

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But I think that one of the characters will realize
that that's what's happening and be rushing home to tell
the wife character, who so far has not spoken the
do not like, don't destroy the kitchen, but the wife
does never phone on her. So as he's going, the
kitchen is being destroyed by the tractor, and he's like

(01:00:09):
slowly disappearing as he's running to the home, and her
memory of him is gone and she has no idea.
So she's walking with this beautiful kitchen and she's like,
this is such a beautiful kitchen and I have and
I no longer remember my.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
And she's played by Emily Blunt and yeah, and it's
all actually like a it's not a love letter, but
it's like it's like a metaphor for how his wife
remodeled the kitchen and he doesn't like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
It without asking him what finishes he would like for it, and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
He like actually really liked the design they had before.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
No, and they had brushed brass like that that was
really unique and it really worked with the space.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
It's like, yes, it's not as trendy anymore, but that
doesn't mean you have to throw this classic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
It was classic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Yeah, you know what it is. It's actually it's sort
of his It's a metaphor for like how this bland
new modern aesthetic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Is erasing people's Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
It's erasing the past in a literal way. It's it's
like and we.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Zoom out, we zoom out near the end of the
movie to find out that all of the houses in
that neighborhood are looking exactly the same.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Exactly exactly. It's like little boxes on the hillside. Hm.
To quote the Weeds theme.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Song, would you do every episode?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Yeah, of course. This is a segment where I quote
the Weeds.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Speaking of Weeds, you know, Mary Louise Parker would be
a great woman in a Christopher Nolan movie, classic gig
guye actress.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah. I've never seen Weeds either, neither. Oh, I love that.
I connect.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
We haven't seen anything, honestly, inception.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
So much of this podcast. George be like, well, from
this movie. I'm like, yeah, and I have to make
the decision, and you have to choose.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
You coming forward with it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Do I do it forward with well, I'll just like
to see if the guests will talk eno and then
like let it royal pass.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
The problem is we've seen all the same things.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
It makes me complicated, tarn you know what, I've never
seen Memento.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Me neither either.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
We should do we should do a movie night. When
I'm in town, We're doing movie night, We're watching Memento.
I'll be there perfect because I've always been like that
sounds like exactly what kind of movie I would love.
I know, like he doesn't. He doesn't have his memory,
and then his tattoos remind him of things like that's
so fun, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
So sober like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Yeah, and then because of that, he always has to
be shirtless.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Yeah, he's like, fuck, I have the disease where I
have to be shirtless. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
And guess what, Harry Anne Moss ga guy actress. Once again,
he didn't choose. He didn't choose the like hot model
of that era.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Okay, I have a legitimate question. I'm not trying to like,
what's the word, I'm not trying to fight. Who is
not a ga guy actress? I know?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
And that's your Hansen, Yeah, Scarlettrah Hanson is not a gay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Guy, great actress.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
No, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Okay, okay, this is a really good prompt. Sam Scarlett Johnson,
Jessica Alba.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Yeah, just like zero zero like cuntiness, but maximum like hotness.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Traditional.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Blake Lively, yes, yeah, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
I mean it's I know it's because they're married, but
she and Ryan Reynolds are.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
The exact hetero. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah, they actually freaked me out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
I hate them as a couple. I like, I'm like,
and Ryan Reynolds was married to Scarlett Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Really yes? Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
You know what's so crazy? All of that? You're like, Okay,
I get him. He's this guy, he's Ryan Reynolds. What
if I told you he dated Atlantis Morrissett.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Oh yeah, what do you don't know this as a Canadian?

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
No, I didn't know that. But Alanna mors I lived
in my grandma's neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
So anyway, you people will surprise you, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Well, I think they should get back together, make it work.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
You guys can make it work.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
And Blake Lively should date someone Killian Murphy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Oh god, I would not wish that on poor Killian
after his big win, to have to date, to have
to date Blake Lively?

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Should we do our final segment? Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Oh my god, is it that time?

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Question?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah? Please?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Is this woman a straight man's actor?

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Rachel mccadams, Okay, so this is actually really really complex.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yeah, I'm really sitting with this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I think Rachel McAdams could wait, you think no what,
I think she's a gay guy actor. I agree, I
can agree.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
I actually think Mean Girls.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I think Mean Girls and that era when she was
like Mean Girls and The.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Notebook same time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
And it was like she displayed a chameleon like quality.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
I think Regina George is like to play Regina George,
you have to be cunty.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Yeah hmm yeah, and to then be like the sweet
love interest like in the same year. I was like,
she's she's being fake, Like, so what you're telling me
is you're a life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
She also is like hot enough that she could have
become straight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
I actually that's why I was That's why I was
kind of weighing it because I'm kind of like she
could be romantic lead that a guy because it was like,
I know, my boyfriend is like Rachel mcdams is so sweet,
and that's why he says when he thinks somebody's hot,
and so I'm kind of like, oh maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
So I saw Rachel McAdams on stage this year and
she played the mother of a like baby with a
terminal illness, and at that point that's when I said,
you are being cunty. This is not for the straight
male gaze right now. No straight man wants to see
a woman wants to see a woman like Russian to

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the hospital because her infant has a terminal disease. You're
doing this for the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
They're gagging for it, and they're gagging. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
No, she's so mother lily rushing to that dying child.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
She is so mother to that dying child. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
She Also it's so funny the way that I'm like, well,
and she's an underdog, and it's like she's not at all,
Like she's one of the most successfuls we have and
I like, but she's not.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
If you feel like she's an underdog, then she's doing
everything right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Yeah, that's really the key.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
By the way, this is my final point about Chris
Nolan picking gigy actresses. He cast Anne Hathaway when she
was at her lowest in terms of everyone making fun
of her for being a theater.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
No, you're right, that's so true to be like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
We're gonna take literally the the butt of everyone's jokes.
We're gonna make you catwoman bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Oh and she delivered, and she ate, she ate it was.
I remember being like, damn that Anne Hathaway has really
got it. Yes, I never I never turned on her.
Look at my voting record.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
We have here in nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah, you voted for the Iraq war, but also for Andy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Wait that's the sound bite. Put that at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Okay, let's do our final sag. Okay o, Well, am
I rushing?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I mean, listen if you want to end the episode
again in the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Well, I'm just saying it's like really hot in here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
I'm acally we're going to make a reference.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
I'm so Christopher Nolan right now because I'm so wedding
in my blazer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
I kept sort of I have to say, Sophia. I
kept being like, well, shull, bring it up. I don't
want to say anything because you kept talking about blaze.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
It's not wool, but it is hot in this room.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
But you know, there was so much conversation about blazer
and it was never addressed that you are in a blazer.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
I forgot that I had this on. To be honest,
I look outwards.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I don't think there's no mirror.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Yeah, well, you're sort of like Christopher Nolan in that way.
Your eye is the camera.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Yes, exactly. It's an unreliable narrator.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Even the fact that I should have brought it up.
I can't believe. I mean, we're growing, it is summer
in LA and you're wearing a blazer.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
I mean, I went from my air conditioned home to
air conditioned car to what I thought was going to
be an air conditioning room. Damn No, you got us
not going for a hike after this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
No, that's true, all right, Sam, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Segment. Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in
the segment we pay homage to the grand tra tradition
of the radio shout out, shouting out anything that you enjoy, people, places, things, ideas.
Imagine it doesn't one you're at TRL shouting out to
your squad back home, but about anything that you like,
we will go first, and we always make them up

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on the spot and do not prepare.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Yeah, we don't prepare perfect. I can do one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Please, we go one at a time, like we just
keep it okay, love.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Okay, what's up, freaks and geeks out there? Welcome to
Season five Australia Lab. I want to get a shout
out to Rescue Spot in the Island of Manhattan, New York.
I received a gift, I repeat, a gift for a facial.
I've never done a facial in my entire life. I
always considered it something for potentially a teleone type to

(01:09:21):
do in the film Spanglish. I said, that's not for me.
I'm a rustic gay guy. You know. Maybe I'll go
on a little walk, maybe I'll have brunch, but I
can't afford a facial. I don't even how much does
that cost? One thousand dollars? Who knows? Finally, I received
a gift certificate for one. I went in. I had
my doubts, but when I tell you, I just succumb
to it. I surrendered to it. And the products that

(01:09:45):
went on my face probably cost a total of two
hundred thousand dollars. I'm not really sure because I couldn't
read the woman's handwriting. At the end, but it was
one of the most amazing experiences of my life. It
happened over twenty four hours ago, and I have not
watched my face since because I still am feeling. I
still am feeling the product on my face, and it
makes me. It makes me feel wealthy, it makes me
feel healthy, It makes me feel moisturized. The moisture is

(01:10:07):
packed in their folks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
It makes you want to buy your daughter a too
small jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Exactly. No, I'm ready to body shame some teenagers. So
you know, I listen. I have no idea how much
a cost, because again I did not pay for it.
But if you have the means, please go to Rescue SPA.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
You are so privileged.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
If you are so privileged, get a facial And you
know I was about to say ask for so and so,
but I didn't get the woman's name, so I'm sure
they're all good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Wow, that's huge. Let's see. Hold on, I should have
been thinking and I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Okay, I can come.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Really, yeah, you're gonna okay, go, I think, go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Hey, everybody, so long time listener, first time shout out,
and I would just like to give a big shout.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Out to all the drama surrounding the Malaysian flight that
went missing. Yes, it has been gone for so long,
where is it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
And you know obviously lots of you know, speculation about
where it is. I won't bore everybody with the details
like I did at work the other day and then
everybody was just blinking at me really slowly, and I
talked for so long, maybe ten minutes, about all of
the different theories and facts that have come out, and
just really it's like not connecting with people, even though
it's so interesting and I think that that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I love that. Wow. No, that's a classic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
No, that's really huge.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
You guys have shouted out the Malaysian flight that's missing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Before we do it every episode after.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
We quote the Weed theme song.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Check our voting record. Okay, hold on, I've been there. No,
this is very tough because I'm literally what I'm doing
is talk about Memento. I'm going through my mind and
I'm like, Okay, what matters to you right now?

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
And I'm like, not that, not that your editor is
too active, The editor in your head is too active
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Yeah, you're a creator.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Yeah, Oh my god, what's up? Freaks? Losers and perverts
out there. I want to give a huge shout out
to my internal editor are always there to tell me,
sh don't do that. And you know, sometimes I think
it's good that you exist, and sometimes I think it's
bad that you exist, because when I see people without

(01:12:23):
an internal editor, I go, WHOA, I'm scared because no
one is saying, hey, cut that, and you tell me
to cut some good stuff, though, I will say and
so I'm going to be in We're going to set
up a meeting. We're going to be in conversation, and
we are going to not be editing so hard, and
we will be streaming Birds of a Feather by Billie Elt.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Oh my god, it's so good.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
I do love that moment where your brain like gives
you that little thigh squeeze.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
It's like, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Some people don't have that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Some people don't have that, and they're much more successful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Is that true, though, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
It goes back and forth.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
I think it's both ends of the spectrum. We get
a lot of success people that will just say anything Donald.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Trump does Kamala Harris have too strong of an internal
editor or enough.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Of an internal yes, but she's coming out of her shell. Okay,
I just listened to a podcast about this where so
much of her identity was like deemed politically inconvenient. Before
It's like everybody was saying, like Kamo was a cop,
blah blah blah. And so now because she's kind of
given the time to like lay out her own story

(01:13:38):
the way that she wants to, she's able to be like,
like her big thing in her speech was like, my
best friend got like molested and then she came and
lived with us because she was getting molested by her dad.
And that's why I became a prosecutor. And so like
that is I know this is not funny, but it's
like but it's like it is true. Like you can
you you can tell a lot about a person when

(01:13:59):
they're under pressure, and you can tell a lot about
a person when they're given the time to tell their
own story because you see how they identify themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
That's how I feel about Benjamin Dadan Yahoo, and I'm
really happy that he's coming out of his really telling
his story in a big way.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Oh my god, Bby well disaster.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
He is is brother. Well, maybe all come out of
our shells.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Maybe come out of our shells. Yeah, Sophia, this has
been an absolute delight.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
You're so wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I'm so sad I'm not there in the room with you,
so we could all get drinks after. It's literally a holiday.
You guys better be like and we're doing labor.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
We're doing labor, and we're making other people do labor
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Yeah, we know it's true.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Come to Los Angeles or we'll both come to New
York and we'll have drinks and we'll watch my mento.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Yeah, my god, I literally we will do that. Yeah,
soft pants for everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Okay, So I do not to be so la, but
I do have like a mattress on the floor in
my guest room for when people come and stay, and
I will drag it into my living room for an
extra like layd down seat when we're watching movies.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
That's really that's fun. There is something about the gravity
here that's a little bit heavier. There's something about wanting
to like, I have a very comfortable couch and I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Like, yeah, but I need to be flat. I need
to be flat flat. Yeah, I need to be big
and flat like the earth.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Yeah, that's why people want to lose weight. So much
because the gravity.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Is the gravity is much more. I know. Yeah, So well,
thanks again and see you at the office I mean not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
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