"Shoe Covers" w/ Sasheer Zamata

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello all, it is Sam here with a quick announcement,
and that is that we have two Stradio Lab live
shows coming up. The first one is in Chicago on
October sixth at the Den Theater and we couldn't be
more excited. Chicago's one of our favorite damn cities in
this damn country, so we would love for you to
get tickets to that at Sunday, October sixth. And then

(00:20):
we are returning to New York on October twelfth at
the Bellhouse. So you know, as someone that claims citizenship
to both of these cities, I am thrilled to be
on sort of what I will refer to as my
homecoming tour. Please please please get your tickets now October
sixth in Chicago and October twelfth in New York City. Baby, okay, enjoy.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
The EPP.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Podcast starts now. Hello all, and welcome to our beautiful
bi coastal podcast, Tradia Lab.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And let me just say tgif tg if.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
We are once again recording on a Friday, which is amazing,
so no matter what day listening, it's Friday. George, you
were just saying something that I actually found really groundbreaking,
and I want you to continue saying.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Okay, so I don't know. You know, obviously not all
our listeners are Brooklyn Nights. So a lot of them are,
but a lot of them are. In fact, I would
say too many of them are, and that becomes an
issue sometimes when we tour, because you know, if only
we could kind of copy and paste our Brooklyn audience
to other cities like, for instance, Denver, Austin. You know,
we're local Lanta, we're local girls, and that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You know, not everyone can be a.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Global pop star a Lah Chapel Rone or Katie Perry.
You know some of us, some of us are just
like Caroline Polocheck. You know she's gonna sell out Brooklyn.
I don't know if she could sell out Denver.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Let's be honest. Yeah, so true.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Basically to me, a sort of an icon of like
gentrifying Bushwick sort of circa twenty tens is Roberta's Pizzeria.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
It is a classic.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Sort of like woodfire of in pizzeria where a lot
of people that I would say our HBO's Girls adjacent
would go to anywhere between twenty twelve and or even earlier,
like twenty ten and twenty fourteen.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Would you say that's accurate?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Sam, say that's accurate. The classic story about Robertos is
people are like, you know, the Clintons went there.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Is that true?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yes, this is what people always say about Robertos. They're like,
it's actually an amazing restaurant. Actually the Clintons went there.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
And by the Clintons you mean Bill and Hillary, I
mean Bill and Hillary.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Was Chelsea involved?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Was it don't sort of take your daughter to pizzeria day?
Or was it just a romantic you know how they're
so in love. Maybe it was like just a romantic
dinner day like they have often.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I think Chelsea was out and about. She was, you know,
hitting up elsewhere. She was at Knockdown Center, Adown Center.
And so Bill and Hillary had a romantic dinner at Roberta's.
God to be a fly on the wall for Bill
and Hillary having We cannot go down the Bill and Hill.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, I'm sorry, but but don't you think.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
So?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Okay, they are sort of like one of the most
romantic love stories of our time.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
How is that true?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Not sexually obviously, but I do think that they have
they have a connection.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
You are pissing me off, right, all right?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
All right, Okay, So Bill and Hillary went to Roberta's.
And you know it's the type of place where you
could see maybe like a B plus less celebrity or
even an A less celebrity like Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Clearly who are the lovers of our time.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
No, So, currently we are recording in a studio close
to Manhattan's own Penn Station. And you know, Penn Station
is where you can get the AM track, It's where
you can get the subway, that's where you can get
the ENJ transit to go to New York Airport. And
I I have found out recently that a Robertas has
opened in Penn Station. I don't know if it's in

(04:05):
the actual Pen Station or if it's like a building over,
but it's there and it has a rooftop situation including
a tiki bar. This and so after this recording, I'm
going to that Penn Station based Robertas.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
This to me is one of the saddest stories one
could tell. This is sort of it's giving. Did you
know that there's a tonnel under Ocean Boulevard?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Did you know that there is a Roberta's over Penn Station.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
And it's also like I remember when like this was
also maybe in twenty ten or something. Obviously, like you know,
nineteen seventy nine. CBGB's Lower East Side hasn't existed since
maybe nineteen eighty three, but there was a point when
a CBGB's opened as a like pop up store in
the Newark Airport and everyone's taking pictures of it and

(04:53):
being like this is so sad, like how this was
like a cultural moment and now it's a gift shop
in the Newark Airport.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
And that's what this feels like. That's what the Robertas
is giving to me, because of.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Course, like twenty ten's Bushwick is to you what Lower
East Sided CBGB's was to that generation. Actually, and we're
about to bring our guests into apologies for mentioning her
before we do, but her co star Broadway Zone, Patty Lapone,
was recently on the New York Radio Hour and she
was talking about like seventies rock and roll and she

(05:25):
was like, it was a crazy time. It was you know,
it was like immoral and crazy, but people were experimenting.
And I was like, yeah, that's how we feel about
twenty ten's Bushwick Comedy.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Literally, that's how I feel about tandem bar off of
Troutman may rest in PTM.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
There's actually one in Pen Station.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now, did you know that there's a tandem bar in
Penn Station?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay and okay, so now we covered the the eternal
crumbling of New York. I want to also say, George,
what a beautiful wedding. Oh my god, my god, my god,
just stunning event. Oh my god, Who's who?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
The way our guest is so excluded right now, just
like us talking about events that she was not at
and not allowing her to speak.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
It sounds really fun.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Oh, I guess your invite got lost in the mail.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I was here, I would see it.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I think you were in LA, but you don't want
to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Being no, I would love to talk about it, but
I do think if we start talking about it now,
then it will take a lot. Like we would have
to wrap up in two minutes and then bring in
our guests.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Do you think we did to say if we were
starting to talk about how gorgeous it was, it would
take an hour.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, let's just be honest. I mean my vows alone.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, okay, first impressions. I want to know you know,
I'm giving you forty five seconds.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
How how was my wedding? Incredible?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Chic? Chic, chic? And also your mom is to die
for God when you meet a mom who is glamor
or us.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
She was, of course famously wearing a dress that was
both magenta and chartruse.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
A lot of people don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
That those colors can be combined, but she is living
proof that they can.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
When there's something I'm starting to feel a bit chicken
or the egg about gay sons and glamorous moms.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Totally, where is she glamorous because I'm gay? Or am
I gay because she's glamorous?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Something's up.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
There's a connection here and we should look into it.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I mean, if only I had on tape the moment
where Matt Rogers met my mom in fact we're very
sort of sweetly, was like, I want to meet your mom,
took I brought him over, introduced him to her. He
was like ready to charm her, and my mom just goes,
so are you married? And then Matt like panics and
is like, oh no, I haven't found that special someone.

(07:50):
And then my mom is just like nodding and looking
at him and not asking any follow up questions.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Your parents have a really specific way of being very
sweet but also very business business.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, they are business people to them.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Business like treating someone as though you're meeting at a
business conference is to them the highest form of intimacy.
Like for my dad to be like, so what was
your degree in? That's like him saying I love you.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Your dad like talk to like was like came up.
I think it was just like he was like, Oh,
I'm so excited to meet you. I'm so happy to
meet you.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
He requested to me like literally, can you bring me
to Sam?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You brought him over. We had like a five minute
conversation and then he was just like Okay, goodbye, And
I was like it felt like an interview that went
badly and I was like, did I fuck up?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
But then he like came to me.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I was like, Sam, great guy, like his a good
head on his shoulders.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Business, business, business in a way that I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, okay, it's time to bring in.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Speaking of business, it's not to bring in our business
partner that we have no personal relationship with. Was here
to promote her Disney Plus show. That's part of the
Marble cinematic universe.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
You say it, you're in person.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Please welcome our dear friend. Multiple guest live show guests,
one of the funniest people we know, so shar Zamada, yay.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Hello, I've been dying to get in here.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Truly.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Oh that was really it kills me.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I want to talk.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
That was cooler than normal.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
It was cooler than normal.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, it's okay, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
What's your relationship with Roberta's.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I like Roberta's and also feel conflicted about it being inpensation.
I get it. I feel the same way as you do.
Like it's like, doesn't it just belong in Brooklyn?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I wonder what would be the thing that really, like,
what is the thing you consider you know, indie whatever
that like went secret that if it went mainstream, you
would be like really uh sort of depressed, like like Apple,
Apple of the company. Yeah, little streaming serving iPhones now

(09:51):
in the Midwest.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Can you believe it?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm like, that's a New York thing.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
That's my thing. I can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
There are people out there watching the Morning Show starting
Reese Witherspoon in you know, Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's disgusting to be fair.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I still think the Morning show starting reswisdim is Indie
to be.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh, it is sun Dance two thousand and eight. It
is literally it is literally pre Little Miss Sunshine Sundance.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
It is like one of those shows where it's like, actually,
no one except for the twelve people we know is
watching this.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
It literally starts Parker Posey and no one else and
she didn't even get a wardrobe budget.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
That is what the morning show is.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
God, oh oh wow.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I don't even know what is Indy anymore. I also
don't know what's around anymore. Like, you know, I've been
in New York all week and I passed things of
like I guess that's gone. Yeah, it's a coffee chep.
Now it's Starbucks or a bank.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
It Also, the signifiers that you're used to are not
clear anymore. Like this happened to me when I learned
that Starbucks co host of the Republican National Convention, where
I was like, huh.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I thought they were all gay there, Like I thought
so too.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I sort of thought that every year of Pride they
would release another rainbow. Yeah, like and then where then
suddenly Mark Zuckerberg is dressing like a hype beast or
then like you know, start no offense. But Patty Lapone
is in the Marble Cinematic universe, like you're sort of
like up is down, down is up.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, we don't know, we don't know what's right. Nothing
makes makes sense. Yeah, and maybe that's progress.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
To be clear, I could not be happier than Patty
Laponas in the universe. It makes me so thrilled. I'm
so happy for her, and please welcome her tonight.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I would love Well, it feels a little bit disingenuous
to be having this conversation while I'm literally dressed as
a NASCAR driver.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Okay, so you've been really wanting to talk about how
your dress is a NASCAR driver, so we're giving you
the floor.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, I'm just saying, we're saying our indicators of what
is indy are completely off and I'm completely dressed head
to toe like a nasscar driver. Yeah, it doesn't make
any sense, and I'm trying to I'm walking around and
I'm like, do you ever wear an outfit where you're like,
I can just you can just wear whatever you want.
And then you're wearing it and you're like everyone's looking
at me.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I tell you something, And I hope this doesn't offend
you in any way.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Sure it will.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I'm absolutely one hundred percent you're just gonna be like
you look normal.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
No, it's actually not what I'm about to say. It's
what I'm said to say is potentially worse. I think
you look like a fashionista who is like you look
like you're wearing the hypeiest version of the NASCAR outfit.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Like it's very much like this is the like their
collab that they did with Supreme or something.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, for a Wrangler shirt, that is a cool shirt.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's not like it doesn't give like I found it,
you know, under a table in some thrift store.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
It gives fashion.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Although I do see now that I don't know if
I noticed the one on the collar. I think now
that I can see three different Wranglers on the shirt,
the collar above the pocket, really big on the arm.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
To me, what's so supreme?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Is there another?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:53):
That is that's a race car driver right there?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Again for anyone not watching that, it says Wrangler on
I'm counting four different places.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah, in different sizes too, And it's a button down shirt.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, no, George, I know what you mean. The problem
with wearing a shirt like this is your like, do
I lean it? Do I try to make it more authentic,
like right now I'm wearing cowboy boots and cowboy belt,
or I could like have gone in sort of a
hype Easter way and like unbuttoned and wren like cool shoes.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, yeah, leaned, I leaned in.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, I'm glad you did.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Have you ever had a sort of cowboy phase fashion wized?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
I think a mix. There have been points where I
wore cowboy boots, but then I think I, like, you know,
had other stuff going on, like leggings and a skirt,
like I wasn't going full cowboy. And I've also had
the bandoliers. I'll just like throw on a shirt at
some point in time, but yeah, I don't think full cowboy.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
There was someone at my wedding that had, oh my god,
what are those called? The like vandelier vandelier but it
doesn't have another name, like a bowl of bolotie. Yes,
someone wearing like a formal bulletie, and I was like, oh, okay.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Is it was it?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Earned?

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Are they from a place where that would happen?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
They are from New Orleans, so I think it could
go either way. Yeah, yeah, but they looked great, like
I thought. I thought they looked the part Georgia.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I will say your wedding was interesting because there were
a lot of fashion conversations happening, like people in like
you know, normal suits and you'd see someone in like
you know, a chic like Comte de Garsoon jacket and
you're law and like you'd be like, we are all
at the same event. I guess this is normal, Like
I don't like it was sort of like who am
I not fashion enough? Are they too fashion? It was

(14:43):
sort of an interesting range.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I sort of think the like a good fashion event
is one in which everyone is everyone is trying, but
in different ways. Like you can be in head to
talk home to Garzon, or you can be in like
a really classic Brooks Brothers suit. But what you can't
do is show up in like flip flops and you
know jeans like I and I sort of do think

(15:06):
that that happened. Like I was looking around and I
was like, Okay, everyone showed up.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, everyone turned out.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Sam, what did you wear?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
So the thing is, oh, there's always a say so
I have a suit that I like that I got
at Ja Crew last year and it's sort of my
been my go to wedding outfit for the last year, okay,
and it's like an unstructured, sort of more casual suit
in a fun way. But this time I was like,

(15:34):
you know, I've worn this suit enough, I'm going shopping
and I like, literally I went to stores. I went
to this like vintage store in Brooklyn's like men's wear
and I was like, I'm going to get a new
and of course you can't do this. You can't day
of be like I'm getting a new outfit, but that
was my goal. And I bought a new blazer and
then I panicked, and then I bought a new shirt,

(15:57):
and then I panicked all day being like should I
wear this? Should I wear this? Texting everyone being like
should I?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Is this too casual? Is this too?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
It was like a light kind of blue, and I
was like is this two daytime?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah? And then I ended up just wearing the suit
I brought.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I thought you looked fabulous. And I something that I
do think connects this is both of us. Every time
we have to go to an event, try to buy
something the day of. Yeah, it never works out.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
No, it's too stressful.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Never and also try to buy something day of from
like a vintage store, like.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Not even so stupid.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Both of us faith something will fit me. Literally, it
will be available.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's yeah, and it's also just like literally the thing
of you know, the definition of insanity is doing the
same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Like
every time, I'm like, but this time I'll find something
perfectly Yeah, what did you wear?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I wore?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I mean, this is a whole saga. But we ended
up wearing matching suits, which at first I thought would
be tacky, but then anything that we tried that wasn't
also seemed tacky. And then I was like, is it
just tacky to be a gay man? Like do you
actually need a bride for a wedding to not be attacking?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Not to be homophobic?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Like, and I was sort of like I kept looking
at photos of like a groom and a bride and
I'd be like, ough, now that's like if only if
only there was a woman here, like then it could
really sort of class this joint up.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
It was like two men, like, what the hell, this
doesn't look right?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
It does not look right, Like maybe they had some
points and so but no, we ended up basically.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Conservatives really didn't want to get people get married because
it doesn't look exactly aesthetically match.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Sam always says, yeah, so we we wore matching suits.
They were very simple, which is what you know. They
were like very simple but very let me say, well
tailored navy suits. But then I think what really actually
brought it all together is this absolutely stunning German woman
who did.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
The flowers for the restaurant.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Did our little boutineers nice and they were Sam, do
you remember them?

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I feel like they were like.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, they were great, the like red thing.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, it was like sort of like red and pink,
so it like femmed it up.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, that's cute.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
And then they were serving gender fluid.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh yeah, I know. See I was wearing you know,
navy soup. Put on the flower.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Suddenly I'm gender flu Yeah, suddenly I'm Sam Smith on
the runway.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
So you were you were screaming, break the binary, break
the binary.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Wow with flowers.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Wow do you believe it?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
So that was Oh God, have you been going to
a lot of weddings.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
I actually went to one last night. It was great.
It was also at a restaurant, very low key. Yeah,
it was like in the basement, private room and there's
like lots of wine and great food and and then
I was to put it early.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Do you enjoy weddings.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
I do enjoy weddings. It's nice to celebrate love.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I agree, Yeah, famously our topic one time was celebrating love.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh it was Pat Reagan stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
It's just too straight. That's really funny.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, I I George, I wanted to ask a little bit,
like how did you feel about I feel like you
have a way of sort of doing something that is
like for you, like like it's not meant to become
a thing, and then it becomes like like I feel
like people were jealous, Like I feel like it became
like an industry comedy event. Whoa and like it reminded

(19:35):
me honestly. George once had a tweet that was like
something about the destabilizing gay in the community, and it
like took on a life of its own where everyone
was like trying to guess who this gay was and
it was like went viral in this weird like you
thought it was like it was very specific.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I was literally it was a point where you know
that first time you start feeling like, oh, I'm not
the youngest person.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I was sort of having a time.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
I was probably like twenty six at the time, and
I was like, oh, there are like new gay guys
constantly and they're twenty two and they're entering comedy seat.
And it was not about someone in particular, but I
was like, you know something like there's always some new
gay guy that destabilizes the community or something. And then
literally it literally I had people like famous people that

(20:20):
did not know me, dming me who is this about?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Because because they also arened.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
About it too, Yeah, they're like who is it?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Like, what the hell?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Who is this person destabilizing my position?

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, they're like I either have to make them my
enemy or my best friend. Yeah. It was truly like
I hear, hey destabilize in the community.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Okay, wait, I'm loving this mythology you have in me, Sam, Genuinely,
I'm not being sarcastic, like so I'm doing things for
myself and then they become phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'm sure like Chapel Roat honestly with.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
The flower a phenomena.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Actually ushering in a new era of gender queer fat
of gender bending fashion. I think is me wearing a
boutineer to my gay cis wedding?

Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, But I really like it was sort of like,
you know, I saw some posts that were like, oh,
I wasn't invited to George's and I was like, you
don't even know George.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Like you a way.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I was like, well there was public I know, the
one you're talking about it.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
And I was a little bit like what the hell?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
But I really felt like it, like I was able
to zoom out of it and be like, damn, you
were just living your life and then it turned into
an event. It was as if you had a movie
exciting Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, you know, it was just really nice to be
in a room with all people I love and respect, and.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
You know, we didn't know what if everyone has fifty
k followers or more.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
That's not on purpose. The fact that we didn't have press.
There was a choice because I just didn't want it
to be a whole thing.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I know, people to be uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I got requests, but I was like, this is this
is my day, Like I just it's just my family.
You know, people like Olivia Wild, you know, Henry Gold.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I don't know why that's the first person.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I thought like, I've never heard that name of my life.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Who is that?

Speaker 3 (22:07):
It's like I was trying to think of, like who
is a sort of not not like super super huge,
but like if you know, you know, isn't Henry Golding
the guy from Crazy Asian?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah? And a simple favorite?

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Hot, it's hunk.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, Yeah, I'll take your word for it.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Wait, okay, I kind of want to do our first
segment because I'm very antsy to get to the topic
because I think it's a really good one.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Okay, how do you feel about that? I think that's amazing. Okay,
so share.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Our first segment, as you know, is called Straight Shooters,
and in this segment, we ask you a series of
rapid fire questions where you have to choose this thing
or this other thing to gauge your familiarity with and
complicity and straight culture. And the one rule is you
can't ask any follow up questions about how it works,
and if you do, we will cancel our Disney pluss
on the spot. I will take out my phone, I
will go to Disney Plus and I will cancel it.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Also, I know this is like my my third or
fourth time doing this show, and I will not understand
these rules.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
No, I never, No one ever does.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
So I'm picking which one.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I am sending a question.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
George, open your phone. It's time to no.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
No, okay, I I have no questions.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I will just Patty.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
You're calling Patty, directly calling pat She certainly does not
know how to cancel a Disney Plus subscription.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Well she actually she's probably on stage right now for
her new Broadway play, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
The Roommates, which I saw and it's so good. Oh
my god, man?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Can you can you believe me if we are living
at a time when when Patty can be in Marvel
and then go do a play with me a farah,
I mean, and then and then they say and then
they say art is dead. I'm serious. Okay, they do
say that. They do say that, They do be saying that.
So sheer doing squats to work out your ass or

(23:55):
a production of cats CoA Sparring Lands Pass.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I okay, doing squats to work out my ass?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Okay? So sure, bacon, egg and cheese or what do
we say?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Please?

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Wow, good delivery, bacon, egg and cheese.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay? H O T T O G O or f
E R g A l O U.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
S now were you transfered furglicious?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Wait, no, that's that was wrong. I spelled furgless g
l A m O r o u s glamorous, glamor.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Oh wait, actually.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
It's actually h O T t O g or fergoluss.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
That's the official question that I meant asking.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Furgl Okay, So not furglicious or glamorous. That's furgoless. I'm
gonna go furgus.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
And by the way, furgolus is now trending. We're pioneering Furgoluss.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I'm feeling fergoliss.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I'm wearing a fergolis, I'm wearing my flower bootin ear,
and I'm feeling.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
My wedding was pretty fergoliss.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
It sounded like it.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, it was so fergoloss.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, so shere, get out of my dreams and into
my car or a girl. You have done it again,
constantly raising the bar.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Girl, you have done it again, constantly raising the bar.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Going on a honeymoon or transforming into sailor moon.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Oh, transforming into sailor moon?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Okay, French manicure or English muffin.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Mmmmm, hmmm mmmmm. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know what that's valid.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's actually hard for me. I don't like English weapons
and I don't really care about me hers, but I'll
say French rank.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay, this same techiek again.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I don't know what goal of this is, like all will.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Be revealed, Okay, this Saint Texas or I ain't no
haull of bat Girl.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
The Saint Texas period.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay, Mesopotamia or if this kitchen is a mess, I'm
blaming you.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
O lords another good delivery.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
That was so good.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
If you mess up this kitchen, I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Blaming Yeah, yeah, you gotta go with that.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
So I think, first of all, I think that was
an incredible performance.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Don't your grace an?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Here's what I'm thinking. I feel like that performance was
very sun Dance indie movie. You were you were being mumblecore, like,
rather than answering in a straightforward way, you were like
considering each one. There was a comfort with a finality,
like for some of them, you gave it time to land.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah. I think very morning show.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yeah, yes, very morning show. I almost would say anti capitalist.
How you you rejected the idea that you had to
pick one or the other. Yeah, I think the entire
time you were sort of repeating how you were unsure
about how it worked, which to.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Me felt like feminist in a way.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
To me, it was there was a sense of wonder.
There was a sense of like childhood innocence that refuses
to die in a way that I was like amazing,
because to come on this show multiple times, yeah and
still be like what is going on? I'm like so
many little couldn't do that. They would just be like
I accept this, and you're like what you're speaking up?

(27:45):
It's activist and you're speaking up when something doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, and you're sinking stop.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
And I think you were being a little kind of
millennial icon, you know, a sort of Hannah Horror of
Ath kind of vibe to be like, okay, so she
had as her like fifth office job, and she still
doesn't know that you need to like wear a bra. No,
it was very frands as how, it was very Francis
hob I love that.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Oh my god, I have to tell you both about
the room where I heard about Greta Gerwig. Wait can
you say it on the air? I literally can't.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I actually let's just say that if I say it
on the air, I might be put on a list.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Well, that's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Is she a communist, trader?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
A capitalist? That's it.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
My gossip is Gwig is a capitalist.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
The one who directed Barbiele.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
She was a capitalist.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh my gallass is horrible.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Wow, and you guys please this days between us Gwig.
I have it on good I have it on record
that she is a capitalist.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Okay, I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's really shocking. What's next. Noah Bambach is a landlord?
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Can I tell you guys something about Noah that's not
It's more like my opinion on him, which is like
I'm always like I think in theory, I really think
like he's a fun punchline and someone that's like I
do think I go to sort of like straight director.
But at the same time, I'm like, but he's good
and I want to hate him. I want to be like, yeah,
this guy sucks, and then everything he does I'm like, yeah,

(29:20):
I like him.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Is there a big push to hate him?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
There is?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Internally there's one for me. No I think the Indian
alt and but he was Indian.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
He was Indian, but he was sort of Indian this
like white guy, like you know how people like make
jokes about infinite chest Like I feel like it's sort
of along that continuum of like, oh, like you know
self serious film bros, like yeah movies or something interesting
just in fact not I agree with you, Sam, I'm
I'm if he's directing something, I'm watching it. I mean

(29:53):
I can't say that for the last like two movies
he made, but you know I'll rewatch.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Frances yea, yeah, marriage to I feel like that kind
of like punchline or like brush off is like for
more like uh, infinite jests where it's like a universal
like everyone knows that, like Christopher Nolan. Even though I

(30:17):
do like some Christopher Nolan movies, I feel like it'd
be like a, well, you know this guy style.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Totally totally You're you're saying bombback is still too indie,
I think, so backlash.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, you say this person's name, and.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Maybe what it is is that he's such a stereotypical
like Brooklyn figure, he's.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
The Robertas and now he's in Penstation.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Now he's in Pensation because of Barbie.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, not wrong, Barbie is Penstation.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Barbie, yes, station of film. Yeah, wow, folks, damn.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
And you know what, and I liked Barbie, so maybe
I like this pens Station Roberta.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
You know, notably, Barbenheimer was on my birthday and it
was a day I will never forget.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Yeah, yeah, did you see both? I?

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Well, ultimately I saw both, and actually, you know, Sam
and I ended up being huge Oppenheimer stands and both
are on record as like Notpenheim more than Barbie. But
I did see Barbie on my birthday and so Greta
will always have that for me.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
That's really nice.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, it was very nice. And then of course this
year on my birthday, biteen dropped out. So you know,
am I the center of the universe?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Wow? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
An event and it becomes the event I had.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
An event, it becomes event, it's about.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Something in his life, and it becomes a cultural I
heard Thes were there, but.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Chelsea unconfirmed.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Well she wasn't invited, and that's the one who posted
about it.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I feel like my parents were there.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I feel like I'd be in Okay. Can I coin Fergolis? Officially?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
I think ferg it because it's a combination of furglicious
and glamorous. W here's what I think it is. Okay,
so glamorous obviously everyone knows what that is. Furglicious is
like that Jeni saqua that only you Fergie can have.
So when you combine them, that is something that is
glamorous but particular to you. Okay, So to have a
wedding that's fergolis is like it was really glamorous, but

(32:04):
only George could have had that wedding. Only Sasher could
have had that.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
You know, like, yeah, this is a very positive read.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I think this is I just think fergolis as a
word obviously sounds bad. Okay, coolerglis doesn't sound It's not
like it doesn't sound chic. You know, someone you say
something's furgilist.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Thank god there's no Wrangler logo on my back because
it would be filled with blood right now because of
how much I was stabbed.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Just like I think fergolus means it implies. You know,
the sound of words has implication.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
It definitely has a diagnosis type sound. You know, I've
been I've come down with fergolis and it's untreatable and
it is symptomatic. I'm sure he's showing symptoms of ferglis.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeahs also kind of sounds like Ferguson, which makes me
think of that redheaded kid on Clarissa explains it one that.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Do you guys under that of the thirty rock joke
Smooth move Ferguson. I don't know if you've seen that.
It's like the entire thing is about how they have
an inside joke without Tracy, and the inside joke that
no one gets is smooth move Ferguson, and he feels
so left out that he makes him recreate the entire
day so that he can be inside that joy.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I like that, so, George, I feel like Fergoliss means
more like you are glamorous, but with like like something
like you spilled a little coffee on yourself, like you're
you're you're glamorous, but there's like you're also down to earth.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh I see, mm hmm, just like Fergie.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Just like Fergie, she's glamorous, but she has a peace
hurt herself.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
She does have issues.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
She's sort of the queen of having issues, the persevering
for it all, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
At least she like has big like issues because like
Katy Perry has issues, but they're like just sort of
like a deep sadness.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, well and sort of poor songwriting, of.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Course, of course. Okay, I also just really quickly want
to say, George, I'm so glad you went back to
furglus after all that.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Well, I wanted to address it because, you know, the one.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's one of those things.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I was writing it down and I was like, I
literally spelled forglias like you were reading.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
That is what I was reading from.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Never occurred to me that it was incorrect until I
started saying it out loud and I was like, oh,
it doesn't sound quite right.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
We really start need to do read throughs before the show,
because there have been many times when I'm like this rhymes,
and then I'll read it out loud and I'm like,
that does not make any sense.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
There's no rhyme. Okay, So all.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Right, well, I guess the meaning of fergolis can be
whatever you want it to mean.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
So sheare, what does this furglis mean?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
What does mean?

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Do means? Hm hm hmm. Maybe like you're having a
good day, but like it's like a little silly.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
That's actually a really good definition. Yeah, it's like la yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Lack like that noise. You're like, oh, my god, I
forgot my phone at home, but like I still got
to see my.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Friends little Kathy cartoon.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, okay, oh I love that.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I love that too. That's fun. It's still sort of
spilled coffee on your shirt, but it's in a fun way.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, in that vein.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, God, today's been so fergloss. Wow.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I love I love that. Should we get into the topic, I.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Would love that.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
And actually I would really love to put the shirt
on the spot and ever explain specifically what the topic is.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
That's right about it?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Okay, so you know, all right, they are shoe covers,
but it's like a box that you put by the
front door of your home. You put your foot with
your shoe still on your foot into the box, and
then plastic wraps around the shoe and now you can
walk around the house without tracking dirt into it. I

(36:16):
think these are terrible ideas. You should just take your
shoes off at the door. I feel like the dedication
to wanting to keep your shoes on so bad feels
wild to me. Construction workers put shoe covers on. That
makes sense because you're working around a house, etc. You
may not want to get it dirty, but for normal people.
This is the thing that people can buy for their
homes when they're like, you don't have to take your

(36:37):
shoes off, just put plastic on.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
So what do you think is straight about it? I'm curious.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I just feel like I feel like maybe it is
more queer leaning or gender fluid maybe to want to
be barefoot absolutely or take your shoes off body positive,
body positive, put your feet on the couch, like walk around,
feel the earth, and just feel very straight to like

(37:06):
want to keep your shoes on.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, it's this classic thing that
I think is a recurring part of these of straight culture,
which is like sort of wanting a wanting to have
your cake and cake and eat it too. Be this
idea of like a compromise that pleases no one, Like
you're trying so hard to be like no, there must

(37:27):
be a better way, and it's like just calm down.
Your heart is beating so fast right now, calm down.
Either take your shoes off or leave them on. Yeah,
it's gonna be okay.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, it's like you don't have to take shoes off
at all, leave them on. I have plastic for you.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
What the stress of like, well, if I keep them on,
then they'll be dirty. But if I take them off,
then what if I step them water.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's like it's okay, mm hmm. Life is complicated and messy.
It can be furgoloss at times.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Life is furgoloss and it's okay, And it's okay, so
anti fergliss to put shoe covers.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
It's so like powering through. It's just like it's like
you can get through this. And it's like no, no, no,
stop fighting, stop fighting. Listen to your body. Your body
is telling you to take your shoes off.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Right, No, it's fundamentally body negative.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah, covering every part of you nothing, not even my toes.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
There's something about also like useless technologies or like bulky technologies,
Like I think about this when people travel with a
neck pillow.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And do you do that?

Speaker 4 (38:26):
No offensive, I haven't I have before, but I haven't
an one.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I certainly have, you know, before I saw the light,
before I saw the light.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
But it's just like it's okay, like just let go,
like give into the experience.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
You're not gonna feel comfortable on a plane.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
You do not need to have this disgusting dust covered
neck pillow.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
That's going to go through security in order to get
on your delta fight.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Do you think that's what made me stop it, because
I was like, I'm just realizing that this is specifically
four planes which are disgusting, and I'm just bringing it
with me all over the place and I'm not gonna
wash it. You have hard is to get cover off
a neck pillow.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
No, there's some things where you're just like, no, this
will never get washed. This is something that I will
not wash ever once in my life, and if neckpill
is one of them. Sometimes I feel that way about comforters,
but you do got to wash a comforter every now
and then.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Every now and then. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
The thing I do feel like shoes at a party
is complex. I know that this is like tried and
true territory. You know, we're going sort of Seinfeld mode here,
But I do feel that I have flip flopped issue
many issue that was really good because I'm like, obviously

(39:43):
part of me, you know, when I'm feeling brash, when
I'm sort of like everyone should just keep their shoes
on at a party. If we're getting the place dirty,
that's beautiful and who cares? And you're gonna clean anyway,
just get everything dirty. But now I have a rug
that's like a little white like it has like white spots,
and I'm like, well, then I don't want anyone to
have their shoes on when they come inside, because cleaning
a rug is much harder than like sweet.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Totally being chill really is a slippery slope because I've
always been a shoes on person. But it's like, but
then what if someone got to sting on my couch.
Obviously I'm deleting them from my phone and they will
not be invited to my second wedding.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
So I am. But then when when you have to
take your shoes off at a party and there's the big,
ugly pile of shoes and it gives you almost you
know how people can be really judgmental of like parents,
Like maybe if you have your kid at a restaurant
and everyone's sort of like like they're doing that thing
where they're looking at the kid judgmentally and looking at
the parents. That's what people do when there's a big

(40:40):
pile of shoes. To the owner of the house, they'll
be like, oh, well, someone's too uptight, and it's like
it is ugly to see the big pile of shoes.
But then what do you do?

Speaker 4 (40:52):
But I'm also I rest my case, ready to take
my shoes off. Yeah, I'm entering anyone's home, I would.
I don't want to have the shoes.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I agree with you completely accept when on the rare
occasion that my shoe is sort of part of the outfit.
Oh yeah, and I want to look like sometimes when
I first bought Doc Martin loafers, which by the way,
I had tried to break in for exactly seven years
and my feet still bleed when I wear them. But

(41:20):
when I was first wearing them, I was like, oh,
this is like I can wear something very simple. But
then just wearing those loafers like makes me look a
little oler Yeah, and if I take them off, I'm
just sort of wearing like jeans from the gap. So
that is where it gets a little complicated. But listen,
I will do whatever my host tells me to do. Yeah,
and I will not complain. I okay. An alternative to

(41:43):
the shoe covers, which I do actually think is queer
and would not work for a big party, would only
work for small gathering, is people who have like random
like slippers and crocs that like old slippers and crocs
by the door, and they're like, oh, you just put
one of those. It's like imagine a woman holding you know,
a half drink bottle of peanut or just glass of peanut.
Grezian and she was like, oh, yeah, we have like

(42:04):
crocs for everyone.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, those on.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
I'm actually kind of thinking that not old crocs, because
what don't put my old crocs on? But but maybe
like you.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Know, my mother's crocs.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
These were handed down generation to generation, you know, those
like fin like hotels exactly, maybe something like that. I've
had parties where actually had my birthday party this year
was like country cowboy Carter Memed and I did buy
a bunch of like like floppy cowboy hats for people
to wear throughout the party. And so maybe it'd be

(42:38):
fun to have like just a bunch of slippers. Take
some slippers walk around so you're not like wearing your shoes.
No feel pressure to show your feet or your socks
or whatever if you don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I honestly think there should be more of a market
for hotel slippers for the home.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, and I think they're probably I mean, I'm sure
you can buy it on amy you.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, but but.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Imagine if they were also like little you know, it
was like just this year's house.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, it would be very cute.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
That would be cute.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Like my birthday. Yeah yeah, your first birthday?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Four? What's your issue?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, and you're you're that's you with the half glass
of wine and you're like, yeah, honestly, keep the shoes,
I'm gonna use.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Really yours. It's a party favor.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
I've been trying to, like, I don't know, I write
a joke about this for something, but like the archetype
of the like wealthy woman who opens the door and
is in like really casual but clearly expensive clothes and
a half glass of wine is just like sorry, it's
been so crazy today here just like sit wherever, like
we have crackers, Like it's that's exactly who I want me.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, Like that's real fantasy.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, just like having being like I guess I could
put together a cheeseboard and then you open the fridge
and you, in fact do have three diverse cheeses there,
and one is smooth, one is yellow, and one is like.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
This is easily soft.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
I went to Bangladesh after college for like three weeks
for this like like service trip, and we were staying
with a family who lived there and they were like
one of the richest families of Bangladesh, which is not
hard to do, but it was they were that and
she wanted us to stay. We were like a bunch
of college students. She's like, can you stay a little longer?
And like some of us said yes, some said no,

(44:22):
but like it was a bitch to change our Emirates flights.
So she like made it her mission to call Emirates
for hours and like convince them to let us stay longer.
Like she I just had this image of her, like
in this very long pink gown with pearls under her chandelier,

(44:43):
screaming on the phone, being like they're Americans and they're sick.
They're so sick and they have to stay here. They
cannot get on a plane. And I was like, she
is getting a kick out of this. She's like, I'm
on a mission to this is the missions for today,
otherwise it'd be nothing.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I love the idea that like their Americans is like
a condition. It's like you know how they are, They
could bear Americans like they're not used to doing anything
for themselves.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Like, yeah, they can't survive.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Can't survive, or you're kidding me going to an airport.
Oh my god, I love we say it. It worked
ya Wow.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, I'm thinking about I'm trying to think about shoecovers
as the only thing that I think can be sort
of LGBTQ plus about them is that sometimes when I'm
wearing a shoe cover and I'm walking around a home,
I feel like I'm in a gallery space that can
really give me a bit of a fantasy and that
can feel good.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Well, there is something, much like you know, crocs or whatever,
there is something They're so ugly that they're kind of
like ugly hot. Yeah, like if I just started wearing
I mean maybe not me, but if someone more fashionable
than me started wearing them, just like around New York,
like if Julia Fox started wearing them, people would be like, oh,
I guess the new trend is shoe covers.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
But then they'd get so disgusting so fast if you're
actually walking with them on the street right right, like
very quickly, they be like disgusting.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
But then that's like sort of like commenting part of it.
Charlie XCX twenty four.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, it's bratt. It's bratt. Yeah, that's brat.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Well, according to her, Charlie Brett, summer is over.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
That's that's true.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
That's also someone if if we are going for the gallery,
feel if someone is asking me to put shoe covers
on in their home, their home better be close to
a gallery, Like it better be like so chic and fancy.
If it's just like normal and.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And they have kids, it's like, why not your problem?

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yeah, Like there was literally vomit on the floor, flocking dirt.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Do you get people like Julia Fox? How do you
feel like you handle that much power? Like literally if
you walk out of your house and you can wear
like a ring pop and everyone's like, okay, ring pops
are in, Like, what do you do with that? Well?

Speaker 3 (46:59):
I stually think Julie fuck is a great example because
she clearly has decided that her way of dealing with
that is.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Like messing with everyone.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yeah, where like just looking insane and like I really
respect it. Like she's just like, yeah, I will like
literally go out with like wearing just like one pasty
but it's not even on my breast it's.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
On my nose.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
It's on my nose.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah I do like that.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah, I'm addicted.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Another another straight thing. There's something very straight about being like, look,
this is something that is somehow good for the group,
but it's also insanely wasteful. Like yeah, it's like, oh,
I have the perfect solution. Get ready for this.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
You guys are not gonna believe a single use plastics.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Throw it right away after you're done, don't take it
with you, don't use it again, you put your shoes
in there, disgusting, Throw it away.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
It's almost just being like, what if we litter just
a little bit for fun?

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah, inside the house, inside the house.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Like there's no reason for this, let's just do it.
Don't you get a rush from throwing something in the trash?

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah I do. All Like, you know, green rules are
out the window when you're throwing a party or like
shooting something like I'm always surprised when people on sets
are just like, do you want the smallest little plastic
water botle you could ever have? And it's like, why
just give me a cup of water, give me a glass.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
There's a part in a Breakable Commischmidt where Jane Grokowski,
who's like a rich woman, has like an entire fridge
of bottled waters, and so she takes one and is like,
do you want one? And the person's like no, and
so then she just like drops it in the trash.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
That's very funny.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
George, you're going so Tina famous.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I know, I know, I'm being very Tina fe today.
Literally have you seen this thirty Rock?

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Are you currently watching thirty Rock?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Well?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
I sort of am like constantly in the place of everyone,
but I'm I'm doing my best to discover new things. Yeah,
I'm watching the new Vince von show on Apple TV. Great,
I'm watching Found Apple.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
How did you find out? It's crazy?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Well, George has always had a nose for Indy.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, that's sort of. That was a big part of
my wedding.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I'll never forget your mom's speech. She was like, George
has always loved Indie.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Ever since he was a little boy.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Well, my mom did tell me a rejected story she
was going to tell in her toast that you ended
up not telling. She was like, I wanted who rejected it?
You no, No, just like she was, it wasn't right.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
He had it cut it for time.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
She was saying, excuse me, that she wanted to say
something that would illustrate my, in her words, my love
of media.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Okay, And so it.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Was that we were like when we were moving from
Greece to or from the US back to Greece, it
was like we were like three young kids. We were
with my grandmother because my mom had already gone. It
was like so tiring. Our flight was late, so we
had to stay in like a airport Hilton for a night.
Everyone was exhausted. We hadn't eaten, and I was being
very throughout and I was like taking care of my
younger sisters and blah blah, and everyone was like, wow,

(50:03):
Georgia is so mature. And then we finally get on
the plane and the plane doesn't have little screens. And
then in that moment, I was like, ugh, what's next?
Are they going to feed us rocks? That was my
direct quote, is like that was the breaking point for me.
It was no screens on the planet. I don't care
about being like hungry, tired, unshowered, but like, as soon
as I can't watch my stories.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Anyway, that is a good story.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
That's a really good story. I'm so sad the network
passed on it.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I guess for the wedding.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, how old were you when that happened?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
I was like twelve.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Okay, it's always you know, almost in like the Boyhood style,
I would love to like watch a gay boy grow
up and see the moment when he becomes a fucking bit.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
They should do Boyhood the day, honestly, Yeah, why.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Didn't I want to see the exact moment.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Yeah, like, oh, there's the turn.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
This is actually a great point.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Like Boyhood would be so much better if the boy
was gig because there would at least be like something
you're tracking.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
And then we can all see how glamorous was the
mom in the beginning, and she become more glamorous over time.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
And I would actually say that Patricia Arquette didn't get
progressively more glamorous in that film.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
That movie was interesting because it was like I'm loving it,
I'm loving it, I'm loving it, and like I'm like, wow,
I relate to this boy so much.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
We're like the same age.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Blah blah blah. And then it's like, oh, but he
doesn't turn gay, Like it was sort of like.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Wa wait, wait, wait, wait, now I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah, this part's confusing to me.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
This is how I feel about Pablo Lorraine, who does
all those movies like the Diana movie and the what's
the other one, the Natalie Portman Jackie Jackie movie, and
now he's doing the Maria Callis movie, And I'm like,
but you're straight?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
The hell is your angle?

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Wait? That's actually shocking to me.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
This is like I actually didn't know that, Like, you're
just like a straight guy, and he's honestly like a
hot straight guy. Wait, and his entire thing is being
like diva yeah, yes, and working with like specifically actresses
like Natalie Portman is a gay guy actress, and we're
casting Angelina Joli as Maria like I'm and Christmas Stewart

(52:22):
of course, of course he's not the one who cast
Naomi wats Is Diana. You know, much more straight, I
would say than casting Christians Stewart. Anyway, I don't know
what his deal is, but I'm watching you, bitch.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
No, that's actually kind of jarring to find out.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh, by the way, my family is angry that they
cast a non Greek woman as Marie Kalas, so everyone
can start can start protesting.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Now, I'm not trying to be ignorant. Who is this person?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Angelina Joli?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
She is a very famous opera She's probably the most
famous opera singer of all time. And she was a
Greek American and was sort of like a classic diva,
Like she was just like always you.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Know, not cat I, what's I guess it is? Cat I?

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Just like always hair done, always make up, like stunning.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Gay guys loved her.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
She was, you know, just like always jewelry and beautiful voice,
you know, sort of like a tabloid fixture. There was
like a whole thing where she like lost weight, but
then it was bad for her voice, and then people
were like white, that was white. And so now his
new movie is about her.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Oh so yeah, I wonder how this sink. I mean,
I'm assuming someone else go to sing.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
What if? What if it was.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Really we didn't know this whole time that she could sing.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
It's actually like a fully a soprano, Like it's just
like singing incredibly operati Like how this never come up before?

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I actually would actually would prefer it was like heavily
auto tune, like not even trying to sound normal, Like yes,
she's like style.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Funny in her mouth. You can't even see like the
vocal cords working in her throat.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
She's just she's literally just like talking and they like
just make it sound crazy, or if.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
She insisted on singing live, but she's bad, and so
it's just like part of it's like.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Well, we couldn't we couldn't do.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Anything, and then everyone has to act like in the
narrative of the movie, she's doing a really good job sobbing.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
That would actually be an incredible film.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Oh my god, do you remember the.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Do you were any of the song the songs that
Ali slash Lady Gaga.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Saying from her body face.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yes, I really liked her actual pop songs.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
That why did you do that?

Speaker 3 (54:55):
And I remember, like I sort of am shocked they
haven't had more of an afterlife because at the time
I also really liked them. Yeah, And I remember like
literally like listening to them just on my own free time.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Yeah, but I feel like that was like supposed to
be like, oh, she's selling out. I was like, I
love it. Can't we have more of that?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
If anything?

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I think they were better than shallow to be honest, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Sure, but why did you do that?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Is like truly a hit. It's but there was that
there was an era where there were all these fake
pop songs that were supposed to be bad or evil,
Like there was the Miley Cyrus Black Mirror song.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Yeahs Black Mirror.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Also the Natalie Portman vox Lox. I don't know if
you listen to that soundtrack huge.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
I don't think I did.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
I'm pretty sure they were written by Cia and it
was this movie, Yes, I remember this movie.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Yeah. And then also famously the Idol a little step
song from the Idol I'm just a freaking.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Well, that's that's a hit.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
No, that song, it's like so good. We are the
two biggest idol stands on Earth.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
I didn't watch any of it.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah, and I and I watched seventy percent of the pilot,
but I am prepared to go.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
To bad for No.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
I watched the entire thing in a cabin in Vermont.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yes, oh my god, I didn't know that. Well.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I went to Vermont, you know, last summer, and you
went to watch it.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Literally, I have to be away from everybody to watch this.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
It's like you went to Promises Malibu Promises, to go
to rehab, but instead you were just watching the Idol.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
It was like the thing where I was like, God,
I just can't wait to be in the nature. And
then the moment I was alone, I was like, I
need to watch something like Shiny Shiny Shiny about like
city people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't actually want to
move to the woods.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Unfortunately, that's something I learned about myself. It's not tough
thing to accept.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Tough thing to accept, Like a weekend in the woods,
like without friends is actually so boring.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
That's an amazing I mean I haven't done it.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Mm hmmm. I feel like, are you outdoorsy?

Speaker 4 (56:58):
I like being outside me as.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
You have this inner calm that I must say, I
personally do not. No, I can't.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
And I think it comes like I could see you
being like yeah, just like every Friday at five pm,
I unplug and then for the weekend I'm in my
cabin and then I come back to set on Monday.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
I love that. That's the vibe I give.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
That's not no.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Actually I can be outside, but I need to know
that I'm going to go back inside then and that
it's like not too far, Like yeah, I could, I
could go on a hike, I could go to a beach.
I could go to the forest, but not for so long.
I don't want to camp. I don't want to sleep

(57:39):
on the ground. I want my things. I need my phone.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
It's like like outside light, outside light.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Sure, final segment.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Well, I just wanted to say, any final thoughts on
shoe covers.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Oh yes, I don't think so. I guess other than
fact that, like I've only seen blue ones and clear
ones feels too binary.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
I agree. Wow, how do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
You know, Okay, I will say I am allowing nurses
to wear.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Them sure at the hospital, yes, yeah, specifically in a home.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
That's the issue I have.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
That's the issue.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean a nurse to me, all nurses
are single moms who are literally the hardest working women
in America or potentially single lesbian aunts. And I think
they should go whatever the hell they want, preferably scrubs
with a sort of design on them.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
If I'm you know, if I'm.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Choosing whatever the hell they want, as long as they're actual.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Scrubs in their uniforms, as long as they're aware, as
long as they're serving, they can wear whatever they want.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
They can wear whatever they want, but specifically blue white
or a light pink is allowed.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I think is allowed.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, No, not too loud of a pattern, nothing political, please, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
And then my message to the fashion industry is, let's
see what we can do with you, because you know
you have one chance. I'm going to give you one
calendar year. I'll see you at Milan in Paris, and
if you can make them fashionable in a way that
pleases me, then I will rethink my stance. But for now,
we are firmly anti.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Done before we do our final segment, we have sort
of heavily implied what you're promoting, but never actually talked
to you about it this year, and I like.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
It that way.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yeah, and I know that.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Well.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
The nice thing about promoting a Marvel project is I
don't feel bad about not asking about it because you're
not allowed to say.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Anything that's true.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
I can't say much, but.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Can you tell people where they can see you on
Disney Plus?

Speaker 4 (59:37):
And yeah, Agatha, it's very witchy, it's very spooky Halloween season,
great cast, great everything, You'll love it, I mean, Patti Cattieme,
Jill lock Allie on can you Believe It? It's it's fun,

(59:57):
it's great.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
That's crazy. I can't you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
You know the whole thing about how Aubrey stayed with
Patty Lapone.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Yes, yeah, one of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
My favorite little media stories. Okay, So basically, while they were.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
On set, Aubrey Plaza got a play in New York
and then Patty was like, have they ever been on stage?
And Aubrey was like no, And Patty was like, oh, sweetheart,
I'm going to take you under my wing. Come move
in with me. I'll teach you everything, like it's going
to be so hard, blah blah. And apparently she did
her laundry and made her soup.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah, whoa, it's really cut.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
It's amazing. I wish a more established comedian would do
that to me. Potentially, I don't know who would. I
want Sarah Silverman.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
If Sarah Silverman wants to actually room with me and
make me soup my laundrey, I would actually really appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
That sounds amazing, That sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I want to say one more thing, which I have
this thing, George, I'm I'm I'm questioning whether to bring
this or not. Okay, okay, but it was to shear
when people come on and they're promoting something large, like
a Disney Plus show. I'm always sort of like, well
does this does like does our podcast count as pressed?

(01:01:15):
Does our podcast count?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Excuse me?

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
We were New York Magazine's number one podcast of twenty
twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
It counts, But I have this thing in my head
where I'm like, well, we don't count. And it's it's
like someone someone at your wedding. I was sort of
being self deprecating about something and they literally were like, oh,
you still like think you're an underdog in this way
where I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Was like, it's also kind of a burn. Oh you
still think.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
That in a way that was like I cannot stop
thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Yeah, no, but I think.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
It is like, you know, you guys were on my itinerary.
You're part of the press. This is part of the press.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I well, you know, I do think not to keep
bringing up Pagula pone, but I'm like us specifically, it's like,
we will get gay guys to watch this show like that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Seems appropriate and a lot of queerness in this show
like that, yes you should be watching.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
You know what we're going to do is get you
gay guys that will watch the whole thing, but then
be so toxic that they're like cyper bullying you online.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Great, give it to me. Marvel needs news bullies.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
It's like they won't be bullying in a Marvel way
of like being like this isn't canon or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
They'll just be like those tights were wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Yeah, we need internaturals and not just be the straight guys. Yeah,
and start making fun of us for other reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Yeah, you need gay guys. Make fun of women's appearances.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Yes, yes, progress, progress.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Okay, let's do our final segment.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Okay, so shear our final segment that's called shout outs.
And in this segment we pay homonitor the grand straight
tradition of the radio shout out. So we're shouting out
anything that we like. People place these things ideas, and
you know, pretend it's two thousand and one and you're
at TRL shouting out to your squad back home. I
actually do have one. Okay, Okay, what is up, freak

(01:03:15):
exc losers and perverts around the globe. I want to
give a huge shout out to the musician Christopher Owens.
So this guy is the lead singer, the guy from
the band from twenty ten girls, we all remember this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Wow, we all like this band.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
And then they sort of disappeared and they stopped existing.
They broke up, and it was sort of like, okay, bye.
And then recently I heard a solo song of his
and this is again, like a full decade later. I
had given up on the concept of these people existing,
and now I listened to this solo song called I
Think About Heaven, and I was like, this song is
so fucking good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I'm addicted.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I'm sort of craving indie as we go into fall,
I'm craving sort of not listening to a club music
for once in my fucking life. And Christopher Owens is
so damn good. And because I haven't followed his career
for the last decade, there's other music to listen to,
so I'm listening to his old solo albums and they're

(01:04:13):
also good. I think it's so nice when someone is
sort of in their lane and thriving, and whether I'm
looking at them or not, they just keep pushing on
and stay good. I'm so excited for his new album
that will come out this month, I think, and I'm
excited to sort of feel autumnal even in Los Angeles, California, XI.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
So Sam, Yeah, okay, all right, I have a few.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I'm trying to decide. Okay, okay, okay, hmm okay, what's up?
Breaks the losers out there?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I want to give a shout out to get ready
for this one, you guys. I want to shout out brunch. Well,
I am ready to reclaim it. It has been long
enough of pretending it's lame and it's basic, and it's
and oh ha ha, you're going to brunch and everyone
it's all girls with floppy hats and gay guys with
skinny pants and boat shoes that don't fit right and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Ba ha ha ha they're all secretly Republican. Well, I
guess what.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
There's actually nothing better than being with your cheekas and
getting around of bloody Mary's getting some mimosas, getting a
mix of savory and sweet. I'm talking, I'm getting the omelet,
but then I'm having three bites of French toast. I'm talking,
I'm getting the grain bowl, but I'm having a couple
of bites of pancakes. We then it is easy to
split the check because everything sort of costs around the same.

(01:05:35):
No one's getting a steak. No one's getting, you know,
a giant pork shoulder or something. I the morning of
my wedding had get ready a corned beef hash. Oh
that was my last meal before I had to put
on my navy suit and my gender bending boot and air.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
And get there at.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Montague Diner in Brooklyn Heights. I've never tasted something so
delicious in my life. I love a hash. I love
an omlet. I love a poached egg. I love a
bagel with salmon and a sort of lemony dill kind
of topping on top of it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
I love brunch.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
There is no reason why it should be so blacklisted
in our culture.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Get your friends, get by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
It's usually more affordable and getting a really nice dinner
in New York City. And it can also it's It
can be at nine am if you happen to be
let's say a parent that gets up early, or it
can be at two pm, and it doesn't matter. What
is so wrong about that? Why has it been so
stigmatized in our culture? I don't understand it is time
to bring it back. I think we should bring it

(01:06:34):
back in a sort of indie sleeves way, like in
a like throwback you way, and I want to see
Julia Fox going out to brunch. I want to see
the lead singer of the band Girls going out to brunch.
We need cool people going to brunch.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Shut up, shut up, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I've become very pancake for the table pilled.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
I find that to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Be so luxurious.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
It's so nice because you don't have to commit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Yeah, and I want wants to bite.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I mean I mentioned this, but I've become so French
toast pilled all of a sudden. Of the three, I
am firmly French toasts.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Yeah, the three being pancake, waffle, French toast exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
And waffle is never my top two.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
No, never.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I want waffles to be erased.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
I want eradicated from Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I want to fund down waffles and get rid of them. Yeah,
they have nothing to offer. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
No, it's like, okay, it's giving squares.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Shut up. Oh waffles, that's like pancakes with syrup traps.
Shut up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
I don't need the syrup to be trapped. I can
just dip it in more syrup.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Yeah, let me like control the syrup. Yeah, intake.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
There's something at a waffle where it's like you're leaning
too much on the body. You're like, you think, exactly
care about this shape? We don't care about the shape.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
No, because pancakes and French toast they're not they're not flashy.
It's like it just tastes good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
It's what I feel like what waffles like. What they
have to do to get the shape of the box
is like in lieu of the texture. Yes, yes, now
it's like kind of crunching and hard and like not
soft and gooey like you would want with a waffle
or with a French choast or a pancake.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah. Yeah, horrible, horrible, Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
I'm glad we got that all of us.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
I just had to get that off my chests, all right, one,
I do what up? Burgolis, fam I gotta shout out
up close magic. I just really love it. I also
think it's a thing that people don't think is cool,
but I'm thoroughly impressed every time it happens in front

(01:08:41):
of me. I know it's a trick. I know it's
not real magic, but the magic is the prestige. The
magic is the illusion. What went into it to create
this thing. How did you get me? I got got?
I love getting got get me again? Like did you
put something in your sleeve? Did you put in your mouth?
Is it in your coat? Is it on me? How'd
you get it on me? I love it every single time.

(01:09:04):
I can't get enough of it. Wish it was at
more parties. Whenever it is at a party, I'm like,
this is only getting better, Like this party is now
like at a ten when it was at eight, and
I'm just like so thankful for it. I wish I
wish it was in restaurants. I wish it was at
bowling alleys. I wish it was at arcades. I wish,
well you're like waiting for a movie or something, it

(01:09:25):
was in the lobby. I wish. But post magic would
just got more respect and more prevalence throughout culture.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Higher magicians, higher magicians.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
And cultivate upcoming magicians. Yeah, I actually feel like there
is very much a world, Like if my life had
just been slightly slightly different than I would have gotten
really into magic, Like we need.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Her drag race for I understand that there have been
magic shows and whatever, but the way the drag race,
like mainstreamed drag and now every time at the VMA's
it's like, look she brought out drag wings.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
They need to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Magicians, Yeah, make magicians cool again. There was absolutely an
era of like David Blank Angel. Yeah, there was like ooh, edgy,
edgy magicians.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
We need what that is? Wild?

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
He was cool? Yeah, I think, but we need a
resurgence of like what's the gen z?

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
I know, well, magician a different aesthetic because it's literally
like they do like that font, Like there's like magician
font in a way that's like stop it. It's like
ed Hardy vibes or something.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
And steampunk, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Steampunk ed Hardy is a magician and it needs a
fashion rebrand.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
We need like an Everlaine like Sons serah magician. That's
actually true.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Well there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I think we've learned a lot and proposed a lot
for society.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Yeah, to get to it, society.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yeah, get out there, stay fergalists, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
We'll see you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
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