"Sunburns" w/ Claudia O'Doherty

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who do who? Everybody? This is George with some show announcements.

(00:03):
If you are in New York, Philly, or Boston, you
have a few more chances to see the hour of
stand up that I have been touring on and off
for the last year and a half. This will be
the last time I do this material before I tape
it in April, so I would love to see some
of you there. I'll be workshopping some of it and
reworking some other parts and standing out the rough edges.

(00:24):
It'll be really fun. So if you're in New York,
I'll be at Union Hall on March fifth and sixth,
and then I'll be at Joe's Pub on Monday, March
twenty fourth. And if you're in Philly, I'll be at
Philamocha March twelfth. And if you're in Boston in the
Boston area, I'll be in Summerville at the Rockwell on
March twentieth. There is an early show at seven and
a late show at nine. I have had such a

(00:44):
great time touring this hour over the last few months.
Thank you to everyone that has already come. Like I said,
will be the last time I do it, and then
I can't wait to write new stuff and I can't
wait to tour again. And that's pretty much it. You
can find tickets at link tree dot com, slash George
Savers and it's in my Instagram, bio and everywhere else

(01:05):
where you might think it will be. And that is
it for me. Enjoy the episode, Love You.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay? Podcast starts now. What's up everyone around the globe?
You're listening to Stradia Lab. We are here live in
Los Angeles. I'm here with George Savers, who I'm gonna
blow up his spot. Just had lunch with his manager
in Los Angeles, California. I want to know how that felt.
Tell me everything.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
So you know, we are recording two in studio episodes
today and there was a like a hour and a
half in between. Of course I ran to a power
lunch spot. We're talking grain.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Bowls or how many teenies did you have many?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Account No, you're just making eye contact with me.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
It's really well, we're looking for yeah, unification, so when
when we look at you, that's correct.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Lunch.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I had a power lunch with my manager. She said,
we're closing all the deals. It said, we we actually
have your career set for the next six years. I
have projects lined yeah, from now that's awesome through the
next projects lined up form but most of the upcoming
decade I knew that would happened for you, And it's
really diversified to writing, acting, radio, radio, a lot of

(02:41):
cinematography work which I do sometimes, appearance club appearances, club music,
a lot of sound mixing. I'm actually doing the soundtrack
for the next Luka what you know movie.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Gosh, that's going to be.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
All hardcore hip hop. That's which people wouldn't think of
me for that, but I actually do have that in
my It's in my wheelhouse and has.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Been three background background.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
And so I'm doing that and then I'm also doing
some red carpet interviews.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
For to B, I'm doing the to Be Awards. It's
awards that they give to just employees of to Be
the corporation. It's not anyone famous. So it's like best
meeting that they had, best best hr, best best snack
someone brought for like a big need for a birthday,
like donuts, best donuts, donut place that they brought. That's

(03:27):
awesome and so that actually pays weirdly even better than
the project.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, well that's for the love of the game.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's for the and I do the game, of course,
and I do one for me, one for them. So
I do one project that's like for the masses, and
then I'll do something super indie. I'm actually designing the
shoes worn by only character actresses who go grocery shopping.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh my gosh, congrats, you can I say something? What
the hell is Luca Guadenino's deal? How is this bitch
making so many movies? Oh?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I see what you're saying. How is he so prolific?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
How is it's a How is this bitch making so
many movies?

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, And they're all actually very different if you think
about it, of course.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean, you know in a sense that there's always
a theme of what if a guy was hot and gay?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
What if a guy was hot and gay, and what
if a woman was kind of insane.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Of course, and what if the scene was beautiful? And
what if we were on vacation. Yes, but I'm like,
I'm genuinely like, how like not I'm like, sorry to
call him a loser, but I'm like, make a friend,
like you knew.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Though he actually also has a lot of friends. No
big fashion designers. Oh, my god, all his friends are
big fashion designers and he's always wearing wide legged pants.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well, to be honest, it's obviously coming from the place
of jealousy, and of.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Course we should have his career. Hello, Hello, I know
gay guys.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I had.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Gay exact visual sensibility as him, and I've been I
could make those movies literally shot for shot, and without
being inspired by him. By the way I would think
of it on my own, I could have made Call
Me by your Name today.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
It would be easy.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I would have made it in twenty twelve. Honestly, I
couldn't have the funding. And by the way, this was,
you know, because a lot of my funding comes from
the country of Greece, my origin that. But when I
had the idea, it was in the thick of the
financial collapse. Now that it's on the up and up,
I actually could get the funding.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I do think that he has something where I'm like,
you know, he's sort of you know, I feel like
in my twenties I was like, you know, Lauren Michaels,
please notice me. You know, my thirties it's all about
Luca Guadino.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Please. Well, he's a Luca Guardanino of gay guys who
are now thirty five and not twenty five.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, yeah, So I really just want to get plucked
out of obscurity by Luca.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
It would be sort of cool if Luca just like
directed a Stradio Lab live. I think it wouldn't be
the you know, I take my shirt off, Oh I would.
I would take my underwear off in a heartbeat, just
to go to the meeting. I would show up to
the meeting. I woul show to the lunch plays, get
a grain bowl, and I would take my my cock out.
I would say I'll have.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
An eye on top, simulate sex on you. Oh of course.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Anyway, so speaking of industry titans, I have to say,
this is someone who I've wanted to have on for like, honestly,
as long as I've had the idea for Call Me
by Your Name, which is a long time, a long time.
It actually started before the podcast. I My entire plan
with starting a podcast was that one day I would
have this person on well please. And I actually do

(06:20):
want to say, speaking of twenty twelve, that even though
what I just said was a joke, it actually isn't
because I distinctly remember watching the show Love on Netflix
and quite literally being like, who the actual fuck is
commeded genius? And how do I befriend her in approximately
twelve years?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
And your plan works?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
And my plan worked?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
So please Claudio Doory you did it.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
No, but I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, I know, yeah, because we are friends, you.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Know what I'm saying. I'm not kidding about the Yes,
we are friends now, but he's not kidding about like,
can I ask you something? Yeah, okay, this is a
legitimate question. Do people like I just did think they're
like the only one that discovered you on that show?
And they're like, what's something crazy about me? Is that
I thought you were so good on Love?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah? I mean well sort of. I mean I just
sound like I'm cheating my own.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Sure, sure, sure, okay, sorry that was another But I
just meant because it's like I feel like it's the
kind of thing that people think everyone thinks they're discovered.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So so just to like internally, when George was like,
I you know, I loved you on Love, Like, is
this sort of what you're doing internally?

Speaker 7 (07:35):
No?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I like it. I just like it. I roll my eyes, Ali,
But people kind of think. Also, it means like often,
like I will say, I often play sort of like
friendly morons, like that is sort of my bread and butter. Sure,
and so people sort of do assume that I am
friendlier that I perhaps am in real life. But then

(07:57):
I'm also I am kind of.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
You are pretty I would argue you're prett friendly.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, maybe I am.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
The first time we met, actually, I think I had
recently gotten engaged and we had just met that day,
and you like with this true like as though we've
been friends for years. You were just like, so, what's
it like being engaged? Well I do, and I was,
and no part of me I was like, I'm in it,
like we are officially, like we're skipping the part.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, I was really excited to get the proposal story.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yes, that's right, proposal, That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
And you kind of didn't think I was seriously asking,
You're like, why would you want to know that? It's like,
because what a crazy what a crazy situation to ask.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Someone you.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Had never heard that before. Yeah, and that's sort of
what you were asking. I thought you were like excited
to talk about the story, but you just had never
heard of your conn before and you were kind of
like you kept saying who was the woman?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
The woman to a woman?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, it's just like what a scary what a scary
thing to do?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Be gay?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, absolutely terrifying. But to ask someone that, yeah, I
knew you did like a proper No. I don't know
how sacred it is, but you did.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like a proper like I did, say will you marry me?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Will you marry me? And also like the other person
doesn't know. It's sorry, it doesn't. So it's like that's
like makes me feel sick, but in a nice way.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
What's funny though, Like the idea that ever, the idea
that you would ever do that and actually not be
sure that you would get a yes, is so funny.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's wild.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, And some people, I think, because they've been brainwashed
by like film and TV, actually think that's like the
way to do it, yes, especially.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like guys and in public, which is like illegal and
literally being like I hope she says yes, yeah, and
it's like she might not. We don't actually know each
other enough for me to know she's interested in such
a thing.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
But I talk about America and.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's like that is I mean that is spooky stuff
that really is should be examined. Yeah, and to me
that does feel straight.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, but when I hear that's like, there's part of
me that's like turned on by that. Like a guy,
a guy who's so dumb, who's like, I'm gonna propose.
I have no idea what she's gonna say, but I'm
going to propose. I'm like, that's kind of hot.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And then, of course, on the other side of things,
there's there's the sort of archetype of the girl who's like,
why isn't he proposing? Yes, well, he has no idea
she's thinking.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
That, and that's also a huge worry. Yes, and that
is you know, that is really a big problem in
the straight community. In the community is the lack of communication.
But they do think that that is. I mean, I
am a member of that community, but often they do
think that is they can't talk to each other.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Is that getting better?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I don't know. I mean a.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Little bit maybe. But also no, I mean, because I
wrote it in quite a few straight topics, I'm allowed
to say them.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
No, no, yeah, yeah, okay, well but now I'm excited.
I mean, forgot to ask you Usually we'll ask before recording,
what's your straight topic. But I'm so we're still busy
talking about excuse me. We literally had to cut an
entire segment because you didn't want it to be public.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
And I bring it up again, Well, now, I mean
it has more of a tease with less with no details.
That's good.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, that's true. Well, as we've heard, it's very good
to tease.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
And I also point out, I know my hair is
in a rectangle shape today.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Rectangle.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, I would remember call.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
On East Side. It's gone rectangle like there and I
couldn't fix it, and I don't. I know. I'm sad
that these days every podcast you're on camera listen, don't.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
On the one hand, we obviously relate to what you're saying.
On the other hand, like we have to do video.
I flew to Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
We have to, of course, no, and I'm thrilled to
get my face out there. But I also know it
does mean that if your hair looks weird, you have
to feel bad a little bit because it will be
committed to film. And I'm not blaming you. Guys.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You have a cat eye.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well, yeah, but I often do, do you?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Oh my sister is like, my youngest sister is one
of them, because it's a type of woman that's like, oh,
I'm going out going to the bathroom literally fifteen seconds.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Cat I well, because I'm going to be filmed for
a freaking yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
But I mean, is that that's your go to eye makeup?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Well? Yeah, because I like the sixties and I've got
round eyes. Oh that's what it does.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Do you ever have body dysmorphia about having round eyes?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
No? I think it's good, it's beautiful, it's cartoon like.
But I'm going to always want to put a cat on.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I'm only I've never considered eye shape as like a
source of as something. No, No, even just like oh
your pair shaped or apple shaped. I didn't know that
also actually extended to eyes.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh they'll don't make you feel weird about anything.

Speaker 7 (12:59):
Now.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
The new thing is is like, if your face is
high or low contrast, what's that? This is the create
I mean, I don't quite understand it, but I would
guess you have a low contrast space.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Don't say that. I won't say that.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
And then you could also be medium contrast.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
What does it mean?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
So I guess a high I actually don't even quite know.
I don't understand it. I haven't explored it, but I
think the ant like, actually, I shouldn't be wearing black
eyeliner because I've got brown hair.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
So it's like you should be wearing like euphoria, like
white islander.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
No, I think the idea is it's like not an idea,
it's just like a new way to make people buy things,
especially girls. But it's like low contrast is like you're
sort of a sandy blonde, a blue eye. It's all
in a similar palette, whereas like Georgia over here, I
don't know medium.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I think i'm medium. I think i'm medium because it's
like suddenly an expertial contrast. Yeah, I'll tell you why.
My skin color is like medium. It's like olive skin,
like I'm not pale, but I'm also not dark. I'm Greek.
And then my eyes are neither dark nor I don't
have light blue eyes. But there's sort of like greenish

(14:12):
stormy green. Storm green is the definition of medium. Absolutely,
So I think i'm media. So I don't even know what.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm not agreeing. You're not agreeing stormy green the definition
of medium. But I just made like light story is
an extreme weather.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
On the one and you have light light blue on
the other end, you have pitch black. Wouldn't a dark
green be in the middle.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I would agree with Oka saying, wow.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm really good at debates. Just the language I was, No,
stormy green is sounds more violent?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
What is good is none of us really know what
we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
You know, it's funny. I'm like, I do you know
immediately I'm on board with the high contrast, low contrast
and medium contrast that. I'm like, I could literally do
everyone's makeup here and you would all look fucking snatched by.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
The time paint out faces were shooting your name. George
is shooting it and doing the makeup.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Do you think call me what your name worked? Because
Army Hammer was low contrast and contrast.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
He is so high contrast it's crazy. Yeah, Edward's his
hands high contrast. Wow, well we figured it out.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Figured it out now, I fully get it. I'm just
start accusing people of being low and high low, and
it's one more desirable than the other. I just want
to know if there's getting into.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Full blown just racism.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I like, not ever watched I've never watched a video
about it. But I've seen the like the first like
five to ten seconds of a video about it. So
that's all I really under.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Are there videos that are longer than ten seconds? I
haven't seen one. I'm telling you, I'm actually pitching a
really one of my many projects is a ten second video.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I think it's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's in development right now. Really, yeah, it's all cgi,
but I think it'll be really good. And it's based
on the How to Train Your Dragon series. Oh good, Yeah,
that's a drag. Is like really getting I say, like
a like slutty, offensively gay, just like constantly showing his asshole,
like bending over and showing his ass whole.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I think we both know Dragon those dragons a medium contrast. Yes, yeah,
those a medium.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I think like Dragon and Trek is high contrast. She's
like the main head bitch in charge. Okay, and then
I think, like obviously, like an albino lizard or something
is very low count contrast.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Interesting. I'm still trying to make sense of it all,
but that's okay.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
No, go ahead, Sorry, No, my body language was unnecessarily aggressive.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
No, well, I wasn't sure you wanted to direct the
conversation somewhere Luca.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
You didn't know if I was going Luca mode.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, wait, how do you say his last names?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
We were Actually I was corrected, not Sam. I was
corrected by either voicemail or comment or anyway. I used
to say guad Nino, but it's me no, which is
actually clear when you see it spelled. I just had never, like,
really paid attention, Claudia.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I have the most boring story also to say about
your friendliness that you know, it should have maybe gone
before George's because there's even less to it. But the
way I was actually internally debating because I was like this,
actually there's no beginning, middle, and end to this story,
so what is the point of saying it? And then
I was like, well, because it's in my head and
it's all I can think about. But basically, I remember
being at Sandy JNA's birthday party and you came up

(17:28):
to me and he said hi, and I said hi.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
You said on, Claudia, because we follow each other on
social media, you have some kind of I do think
you O meed to go for dinner last year.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
And then you couldn't come.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I couldn't come.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Pat told me these and I got replaced by goh early.
I was recast, yeah, by another low contrast guy. But
he's the thing, so well shall I retell the story
from my perspective?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
But I remember being positive. We keep going.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Okay, So we followed each other. We'd nearly gone for dinner,
so I know who you are here. I go crazy thinking,
you know who I am? Why would you? Why would you?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Though?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
And that afternoon I was walking down the street and
I saw you, and I gave you a big smile
because I was like, well, there's Sam. Great, we'll meet
in real life finally. And I gave you a big smile,
and you scowled at menogniecognizing.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Then did you?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Later that night, by pure coincidence, we were at the
same party, so.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
That interaction just ended with him scowling.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, And I thought, okay.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I scowled at you, just scowling at general.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Then because I was like, big smile. So I guess
this maybe is what happening. What's happening anytime a fan
sees you on the street and it's like, oh my god,
it's Sam Taggett and you smile and you're like, get
out of here.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, I do remember, I do remember spitting on someone
that day. I just for I hadn't realized it was you.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It happened so often, so usually it's women. Actually, it's
like when women look at Sam's like, I don't like
you're kind?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So you scowled. But then we got
to meet that night, so I got to confront you
and say you scowled me.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
That was where the energy of I'm Claudia. That's where
that came from, because you had already been rejected one.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I would never just start with that. That would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Instagram is complicated.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Oh my god, here we go, okay to visual media,
So that would give you some facial recognition, unless you
don't have facial recognition, which isn't.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Rehi is a disability sometimes I'm I do think sometimes
I'm lacking in it.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, on this day, you were for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I think you know what Claudia looks like.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
See, I'm so glad I brought this story up because
because there is actually a lot of meat here, and
to be honest, there's something. When you were coming in today,
I was like, I will remember what she looks like? Correct? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
What am I such a chameleon? Do I know?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
So?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Different on camera.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
You are literally a once your bridgeite Burdo. You are
you are one of the most memorable women.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Thank you Georsh. But so so, how did you feel
when I walked in today?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I mean you, I said, thank god, I remember?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
I remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. So you've had
emails again that doesn't register.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I do this.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I have. I often google people before we like meet
up with them because I'm like just to remember, just
to remember.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
So I guess when you follow someone on Instagram, you like,
you put no you don't like.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
If I know I'm going to see them, I'll scroll
through the pics. Yeah, but if.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Not, I think maybe you do less like browsing on
Instagram just like.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Which is actually good, which is definite.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
So often I find myself just like sort of vaguely
being like, what is this person been up to the
last three years? My manager said you should be doing
more front facing.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Like literally probably right, because I.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Told her, I said, you know, actually, would you ever
represent Quaitia? She said, I barely know what she looks
like front facing exactly, see I do.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
There's like I need to see like one a day.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, instead of zero. Ever, so I should probably do
that it is my fault. It is my fault. But
I had a very similar experience with the on Street scale.
And I think I told you this story at the time.
Whereas there is this man who has been dming me
for about eight years. Don't make this the clip from

(21:43):
the podcast, Okay, okay. So he's like, he's an actor
and he has been dming me for about eight years
and I've been ignoring him on multiple platforms the entire time.
I've never met him in real life. It was like
he followed me on something. I followed him back. So
I was like, oh, I know who this person is,
you know, and probably.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know, we would recognize.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm going to guess Lucas Gage.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
No, but we do. I think we do follow each other.
But no, I think this is.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, we can can't.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
You know?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
It used to be you can use Lucas Gauge is
a bunch of line. Not anymore.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
And isn't that name so similar to Luca Guadene When
you think about it, the beginnings are really similar. So
this guy did, and so he dm me for many years.
I always ignored and one day I was walking down
the street my parents live on in Australia, and by
crazy coincidence, he was walking towards me and I was like, Wow,

(22:38):
what do I do? Also, I used to think I
had the power on Instagram to open messages and then
make it look like I'd never opened them. Do you
have this on your Instagram.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Where you could be like, don't mark a scene or whatever?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, do you know that that's not real? Do you
know that?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I did not know this?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
So for the other person, he can say that you've
seen it, it's for you to be like, oh, I
must remember to respond to this. Yes, I know that. God.
So for about for many years I was opening messages
straight away and then I would swipe back across yeah
and ignore it for years. Here Australian, we can't get

(23:19):
into these specifics.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Oh but yes, so that's a little slightly.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yes, that he would be on the street. It's not
creepy that he was on the street. It's a very
weird coincidence because it's like a residential street. Yeah, no
one's on that street.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
It's very sort of America Center to be like, oh,
well that makes sense. I mean he was in Australia
a lot of countries, so he was on the Australian Street, Australia, Astralia.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But I was like in it, I was like, what
do I do because I've like opened, I've opened so
many messages from this person. I've never I actually don't.
I don't know if at that stage I knew that
he knew that I'd been opening the messages, but I've
been pretending that I was not opening.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I just want to tell you has all the makings
of a story that later on a guest will be like, hey,
can you guys?

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I just I think it's okay because like I have
no ill will towards this person. And you know, I
was like, okay, so what's my approach. I will just
really smile at him, because, like I, there's no denying.
We follow each other. Yeah, I'm gonna also delete my
Instagram this afternoon so no one can figure out who
this is. Oh no, I was realizing how bad. It's

(24:31):
not that bad.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's fine, It's literally fine.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
But like so he so I was like, I'll just
give him a big smile because I'll just feel like,
I guess I'm just not the kind of person who
opened messages and huge smile and he also scowled. He
had he did not recognize in real life either, So
it does like, maybe I need to look more like something.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's trend you need to get. You need to stop scowl.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
That's surgery. To look more like what people think you
look like.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Ask everyone ask a caricature artist to draw, what to
draw with? People think you?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Usually I play a kind of characters who were overalls.
So maybe like that's it. I should be wearing type
of I don't know, hype friendly idiot who rules.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, I guess you should start wearing more overalls. Maybe
have a little I don't Yeah, have some hay sticking
out of your hair.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, I want to publicly apologize, okay, scowling. Wow, that
was not cool.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't think I've ever been like apologized to on
a podcast, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't think I have either.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I don't think I have. No Jeremy apologized to me.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
That was huge.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
What did he What did he do?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Jeremy Harris was my high school bully.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Oh my god, that's why he was.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
And he came on the podcast and apologize.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But I'm sorry, my bully, you're my bully, I'm your ably.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
You really are Okay, I accept the apology. Wow, that
was cool.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's really cool. Damn should we do her for a second?
I think we should. That is crazy that I brought
that up and then it was so fruitful. Slash made
me look.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Bad, but no, so good to just like show your
audience all the shades of your personality.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You might scowl, see, you know when you were like,
we're running out of We're runn out of parts of
our personality.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, when you were like when you were like, you know,
people think I'm so nice. They play these nice characters,
and you're like, and actually I am nice. I'm sort
of the opposite, I think where people think I'm nice
because I'm nice on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I know you were nice.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
From scrolling.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah you do schollar.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Well, which is interesting because you don't actually think.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I am your way way nice situations, whereas people think
I'm a huge asshole. Why you know, I like sort
of lean into that a little bit. Okay, interesting, Like
it's like, of course I'm being like almost like aloof
and stand offish or something as my famous character that
I play when I do stand up comedy, and then

(27:03):
people meet me, yes, and then people who meet me
and they say, oh, no, he is a doll.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
You so friendly? Yeah, but actually the scowla I've got
some work to do. But he look at you smiling
being nice.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, it's guys, it's not real. I'm nice. Uh. Okay, Claudia.
Our first segment it's called straight Shooters, And in this segment,
we're going to gauge your familiarity with and complicity and
straight culture by asking you a series of rapid fire questions,

(27:38):
especially this thing or this other thing. And the only
rule is you can't ask a single follow up question
or will scream at you.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Ask anything about it.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Get ready to get scowled up harder than you could
ever imagine.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
A synchronized scowl. Yes, Claudia, singing off tempo or babo.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Am I allowed to ask?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's a question?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Okay, singing off tempo?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Okay, winning best actress or feeling most gaseous, feeling most gaseous.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Being anti vax or deleting hbo max being anti vax okay.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
A urologist or a big long piss.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Urologist.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Roberto Benini or Espresso Martini, hm Yo Benini okay, Alert.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Doctor shoals or being a doctor that's goals, doctor shoals.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
The hand that rocks the cradle, or the marvelous missus maize.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Oh masil, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Albra cadabra, or have a banana a abercadab rough Yeah, no,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Potassium Seriously, I have hype potassium, so you don't need
to eat bananas. In fact, they would be actively harmful.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Isn't that bad? No, I
didn't care about bananas real.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I love a banana. And actually your sweater is kind
of a banana butllar, and it has made me crave
a banana.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I think there's a stain on it, but I can't
can you tell?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, I got to dry clean for the first time
and now it smells weird.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Oh no, I don't have that.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Is that something that happens?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I actually smells?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
So.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I recently bought a perfect pair of vintage jeans. Wow,
took them home. Realized they imagine someone smoking cigarettes every
day for like three decades and only blowing onto these jeans.
That's what they smell like. And I'm not even I'll
have an occasional cigarette like I'm not especially sensitive, but
I felt ill, and so I had to. I've got

(29:58):
a lot of suggestions. People said, Vina, you.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Bath have you done that?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I ended up just washing them on a gentle cycle.
And they've gotten to a point where I basically don't.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Completely solvable problem.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah. Yeah, I was acting some sort of twist or
it's like and now they don't fit perfect.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
But it's like, but the thing is that, yeah, that
is what happened. But I'm I just I have to
persevere it.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Like I can't see on the Janes though, that it's
really out of reach for me.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
So I have a place in New York that I'm
going to tell you to go to because guess what
they do, take your measurements. Rather than you browsing a
bunch of vintage jeans, take your measurements, ask you what
you want, they bring you options, Thank you, one hundred
and I want to say, okay, so the the genes
I think are one ninety five okay, oh and that

(30:47):
include no, no, that includes them, the service, the sir,
and them tailoring them so they'll like take them in,
hem them whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
But it's still a vintage Jans, interesting specializing. It's really hot.
What I've got really narrow.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Whereas I have really wide hips. You guys I have.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well, we rate our I guess on scale of one
to one thousand doves.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
You know, I actually really appreciated that you genuinely were like, wait,
what is this? Yeah, it hasn't happened long.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
You showed an intellectual curiosity that I think in the
second Trump era is lacking among the general populace.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
And what what else is lacking in a second Trump
presidency is perseverance and giving up left and right?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
And Mike Pence?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
What about Mike?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
He's lacking in the second.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's right, as you were lacking Mike Pence and your Yeah,
you were like not being Mike Pence.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
There was no Mike Pence anywhere.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
If someone was like, what is you? My you have?
I would not say Mike Pence.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
And I would say I don't know, but not Mike Pence.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, I would say who's the opposite of Mike Pence?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah that's nice.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, So I'm going to say eight hundred and seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Does out of a thousand.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
That's really good.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah. I did get scared at the beginning because I
forgot what the sort of name of the what the
name of the game was. So it was like, I
have forgotten what I meant to be doing, and that's
why I stopped, and I nearly and I did ask
a question.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
But that's okay, Okay, show yourself before it got really bad.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, yeah, should we get into you mentioned that you
have a list of topics? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yes, And is that wrong?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I don't know. I don't think that's wrong to do,
but should be? Well, well, shattered your confidence for you
to ask that wrong?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well, no, that's just because I'm a woman.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
You should look into that. I can't get over how
beautiful the color of your sweater is. You don't see
this sort of canary because it's not quite canary. It
is bananaw but but yellow I think so, you're absolutely right,
it's now Now now I'm like, I'm such a dumb
ass to even call it banana, Like it's so clearly

(33:13):
butter yellow bananas can be that color.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, sort of insipid onesid, bad bananas.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Okay, so let's hear some of these topics.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Okay, the first one, well, I'll just say the men
aver I have casino aesthetic.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, this one's it's hard to say because of where
I'm sitting. Gray couches and also sort of teal couches.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Teal.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
I'm also going to say being sunburnt m and I
think that was really it. Oh no, the color blue.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh wow, that's put a pin in that. Okay, I
have a tight ten. That's actually one of the I'm
taping right now for my career. Just off the bat,
I want to say, great couches. We've actually organically discussed.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I bet this might be.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Done no, but it wasn't his topic. But we were
talking about how for furniture, gray is a straight neutral
and beige slash tope slash is the gay neutral. It's
like a gay person if they're like, I just want
something simple and uh that can go with the space,
they won't go gray, They'll go beige, right, whereas a

(34:32):
straight person will say, well, what's the most neutral color?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Scared of being identified as someone who has any kind
of prier, yes, so they choose gray.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
It's really and I actually the.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Fans to whoever chose these, and I actually think like
and this tone as well, this one's so bad.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I think he's horrible.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Oh and he's not.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
We're just decorated this studio one of them Messenger Gone
have so many gigs, and it's like, yeah, my interior
to core business is not as good as my acting
or my directing.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
But like, but you have to understand lots of people use.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
This space eight years ago.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
And also, guess what, Claudia, most people in the world
are straight. Like if I'm if I'm designing just for
like a sophisticated uh you know, queer like magazine collector. Yes,
how much money would I make? Like we need I
need to be able to churn these pieces.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Out exactly for the straight mark, the straight market. I
get it. I remembered another one air fryers.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
And I would go so far as to like rice
cook or instant low cook.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Is all of this stuff any plastic things actually on
the countertop.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I have very little patients.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Microwaves, Yeah, I do wish they like work.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
When people don't like a microwave, I'm like, enough enough, Harvard,
one of the people use a microwave exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I actually want to specifically call out people say reheat
things in the oven. Guess what the appeal of leftovers is?
They don't take forty five minutes to prepare because they
are leftovers. If I wanted to use my oven for
forty five minutes, I would make a lasagna from scratch.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I have to confess something. Have you guys seen the
videos of like the Little Boys. It's called like Maryland
Food Boys or something, and they're literally like twelve years old.
You need to like they trust me. This is gonna
pay off no matter.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I like what you're describing is sounding a little a
little George, don't go there.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
There's these videos of these boys hosting a podcast and
they like it's like really professionally. They eat food and
they go, oh, so, what's your favorite pizza? I like
when pizza's crispy, I like cheese. Like they and they're
like still twelve, but they're like in a podcast studio. Yes,
it's very funny. And now whenever we start going off
on a small topic and being like like being like,

(37:01):
here's my thing, ovens are too long, I'm like, we're
just like the Little Boys.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, yeah, Well that's all the podcasts really are, is
like people saying yes or no.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's also kind of what like our generation of comedy,
and you see the adjacent comedy is it's just like,
maybe we can just be childlike and it can remind
us what it was like.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Trying to do that recently a lot really trying to
be a lot more to that child exactly. I'm getting lost,
you know, I'm scared a lot of the time.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I want to return also to getting sunburned, because I
find this to be an interesting topic with the amount
that gay guys go on beach vacations.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
And they're tanning, and they're tanning, and they're they're speedoed,
they're nude, they're in the sun all day long, and
there is something where it's like, but they're not sunburned
like the way that very rarely have I been in
a house with someone who has been sunburned in the
many years that I've been going on gay vacation.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I'm actually quite surprised at the statistics of that, whereas
every straight vacation it's like, well, dad's sunburned, he's cooked. Yeah,
he's got to wear a shirt now exactly, And it
is and I'm not sure it's I'm not sure why
that is. We all have the same.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Education, I know, Well, can you provide answers what about women? Well,
there is a sun burn sunburnt woman. Also, I'm Australian,
so it's like sunburn is a huge part of my culture.
Everyone gets like one out of two people get skin cancer.
Was yes, there was a hole in the ozone layer
when I was a kid, so it was like we

(38:37):
were getting extra uv race and obviously like white people
are not meant to be in Australia and so it's
like we were just getting really cooked. So everyone got everything.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Is that way.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So many Australian actors like Nicole Kidman moved to the
United States. Nicole Caman especially like would have died.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Absolutely, and she is like the most porcelain, Like her
swimsuit goes to heat. Yeah, and she well someone told
me she like ll like I saw an interview to say.
Someone told me it's like probably not that's what happened,
but that she would get up before shooting and swim
before the sun rose, like at the beach, and they

(39:15):
were like, isn't that amazing. I mean, she like gets
she's doing so much every day. And I was like,
I think it's because she doesn't want to be sunburned. Yeah,
she doesn't want to put on that swimsuit. No, it's
like this, but yeah, it's so sunburn is a big
part of my culture Australian and also straight because I

(39:36):
think it is like the idea like especially for men,
and we will talk about women as well. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Well, we were recently accused that we sometimes erase women,
so that's why I am bringing them up from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
What the image I really have is like, well, it
was like there's so much sun damage, so it's like
every woman like a really familiar thing is like a chest. Yeah, yeah,
that sort of like the vertical wrinkling and maybe a
sort of the freckles, a very sort of specific cooked
in redness.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yes, cooked in redness, which I guess is different because
I also imagine like a leathery tan, which is sort
of a different thing. But yes, cooked in redness.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's so icindon to be like, we need to raise
women up. So women like often get this like burn
where like their tits like wrinkling. Really it's disgusting, like
so women age like really badly.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Like also, I really remember there was such a thing
of like in Australia, people would go to Bali because
it was.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Like oh, because it's close.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Close, so it's like a beautiful place to go and
it's close and it's not Australia. But people would come back,
white women. I just remember saying, like, mom's on the
plane my family went when I was like sixteen. Just
like everyone would get the braids, which was obviously an
interesting choice.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, oh that was such an era.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
BOLLI braid. So it's like there's beads, there's braids, and
then just like the reddest circle in the world, so
women get some burnt too.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
It's really amazing. Like I feel like the kind of
era of white people making fun of white people is
coming to a close. It's sort of it's over it.
It seems like self flagellating in a sort of like
pathetic way at this point. However, that said, it is
crazy the things why people do. Sometimes when you think

(41:28):
about the fact that just for a full generation they
slash we were going to you know, the Bahamas and
just being like and now I'm going to get braids
with little seashells on them. Yeah, and it's going to
be so fucking exciting.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Did you ever do it? I never did it.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
No, I never went on one of those vacations.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
My sisters when they were kids, like I'm talking like
eight years old and five years old. Yeah, they did it,
and there's a lot of photos of it.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
That's so funny. It's when I was in the z
Way room, we were like trying to write a thing
that was making fun of that, and then like the
writer assistant is Jamaican and she was like, well, everyone's
making like loves doing that to white people.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Like this, so this is classic.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah. It was like because it's funny, like like they're like,
we're spreading the culture.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
It's like, well, it's a very American because we're sort
of applying an American notion of appropriation and race relations
to a different.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Well, it's interesting. I mean, like I wouldn't. I'm not
saying I know anything about Balanese culture, but I don't
know that the braids originate there at all. It's like
they've just like been like, well, they're just yeah, it's
a vacation.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
It's just like, oh you got vacation hair.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, because I've never seen like a Balanese person with braids.
So let's think about that for a while.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think we should say with that, Wow, I mean,
look at us talking about women talking about race, talking about.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Okay, apologizing, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Damn, I do think well, first of all, I think
sun burnt has to be our topic. I really like
because I actually I do want to return to what
you're saying about how gay guys magically don't get sunburned.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Well, and it makes me think, like, right now, I'm
watching Survivor constantly. I started late, and they I know
they get them sunscreen. I know this, But that's all
I'm thinking about the entire time.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, so we will get back to women, but for now,
let's talk about men. Yeah, just sort of baseline theory. Yeah, obvious, Okay,
obvious theory. Gay men interested in more interested in skincare
more knowledgeable about how to treat their skin. So it's
just like a effortless that you don't see them like
fumbling to get the sunscreen. That's like leaking out of

(43:54):
the bottle. They're just like doing it.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
The other hand, I have a problematic addition to this
is that they also are like, want me to put
sunscreen on you?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Like, well, here's something I discovered about myself. If I
ever wanted, I have to pretend I am less flexible
than I am. If I want to get someone to
put sunscreen on my back because I if that can
put sunscreen on my tie back because I think I'm
hyper mobile, so I can touch every sentimente out of

(44:24):
my back. I can to, whereas everyone else is always.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Like put sunscreene on me.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'm like, why, I just do it yourself. But they can't.
They can't reach, but you can.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
So one of the things that I can't one of
the things that has been a really sad thing in
my life. I know we'll get ready to actually burst
into tears. So I used to I'm I used to
be able to. I won't do it, so no one
freak out. I used to be able to clasp my
hands all that oh literally all the way around, and

(44:56):
my shoulders would just like dislocate and like go around
and I can't believe I'm about to say crazy? Is
this like this? But because I have been working out
more in the last year and a half, I suddenly
can no longer do it, and it actually is like
making me feel less like that was always my party trick.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
You're less flexible now that you're more muscular.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yes, yeah, exactly, you lose flexibility, do you really? Yeah?
Think about like the guys that are really muscle that
can't even up with their arms straight.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Oh right, I just like I don't think it took much.
I think I used to have literally zero muscle masks
and be very naturally flexible, so I could just do
it and like the second I got even just like
a little bit, it just I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Wow. So do you go home for the holidays with it? Yeah?
And your family's I don't know my family, like they're like, George,
do the trick? The trick?

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I think it's no one ever. It's one of those
things I used to do it, and like I can't.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Mom, I've changed.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
She used to do it and think some people would
be nongrossed out by but every single person would be like,
you never do that again.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I don't think I can do that one. Well, I
can put sunscreen on the way back, fit my whole
fist in my mouth, you can. Yes, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
No, no, of course, of course, imagine if you never asked
that I've actually offended you even did like iroll it.
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
It's just like there's a camera here, obviously it's so
tempting to it away. I'm not going to be.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
The equivalent of cleavage, of like hinting that you can
do it.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I could do it. It could happen at any moment.
It takes a while to get it.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
In another Claudia, wait, George, you were making a point
about sunscreen when we all on.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
The one I mean, on the one hand, gay guys
are conscious of skincare norms and also, as you're saying,
basically use it as a fore play just asking their
friends to pitch. And then on the other hand, the
straight men a feel invincible and b feel like it's
a sign of weakness to protect themselves in any way.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Absolutely. I think it's like there's so little self reflection
in the greatest of men. Like it's like to reflect
is gay because you're looking at a guy, and so
it's like they they can't sort of think about themselves
in any way. So self preservation is like not available
to this.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Well, it's also like self preservation, it's like, what do
you think? So you think I'm weak? You think I
literally need armor to go to the beach.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
If I'm meant to live, the Lord will keep me alive.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, because God is straight, Because God straight.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
And also I'm sorry to say that it's an unwillingness
to learn from past mistakes because these people are getting
sun burnt over and over again every year. It's not
like this is the first time and they're shocked.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yes, completely, I.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Got to say. Sometimes them, like when gay I sexualized
putting on sunscreen. Sometimes I'm like, enough, I've been on
a nude beach where like they were really like, oh,
in the inside of your butt crack really needs something.
Oh my god, no it doesn't. You guys need to
clomb down.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
So with someone putting your inside.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
But it was like two guys and it was like
screaming up and we're like trying to have a normal conversation.
He's like really getting in.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
And I mean, I have to ask. So you're on
a nude beach, like, what about the shaft all.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Over the shaft?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
You and you do you have to first get erect
and then put the screen on so you can get
This is complicated because you do.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Have to do it because if you put it, you.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Have to do it. You're doing you have to not
get hard, but you have to put it on. So
you're like, you do you have to rub yourself exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
So that's why I'm.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
So sorry of chicken out the eggs. You are getting
hard because you're putting.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Because also if you put it on flaccid, then it's
not the full surface area, so then it's like expanding
and then suddenly it looks.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Like a red tiger exactly. Yeah, yeah, tiger, red tiger
stripes hot.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
So you have to wait, you have to get hot.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
You literally have to care about skin cancer at all. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
So yeah, there's like PSAs where men are like I
didn't know I would go to the beach flaccid and
next thing you know.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
They are like specifically life cards that are there like
get you hard so you can like put sunscreen on.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
It would be awful to have a sunburnt penis on it.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Honestly, Like the appeal of a nude beach is like
loses its luster pretty quickly when you're like, well what
if I get sunburned? Yeah, because it is fun to
be like, look, I'm naked, and it's like I don't
actually want to lay in the sun naked. Yeah, I
need some very dangerous to me.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
You you got to just go srong.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
What's that again?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
But that David Beckham, Yeah, David, or even just like
I'm thinking, like little piece of fabric. It can even
honestly be see through, so you can get what you're
wanting out of the out of the new sea through.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Don't you get sunburned.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
No, it's like wearing sunglasses but for your dick.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
But also you're not nude if you've got a sarong on.
But it's kind of creepy. It's sexy. I mean, I
always get but it's different.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Okay, so that's men.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Now let's we're going to women again.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
So women. Okay, the women get suburb because it's like decoltage. Yes,
and lesbians don't have that. Actually that's true. I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
I don't associate that because they're wearing a crew.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I mean I'm thinking I'm trying to say, for a
sort of phrase this in a positive way, like there
is something lesbianic about kind of always being prepared.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Me.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
It's like she has a little kit, like a little
you know, fanny pack, like a little purse or something
that has like all the things you might need, like
first aid kit, chapstick, sunscreened face, sunscreen. That's different like snacks, whatever.
And that to me is which is a very different

(50:59):
reason than why gay guys don't get sumber. But that
to me is the reason a queer woman would not
get sundering is because she just is always prepared when
she's going to the beach, like she has all the materials.
You would never see her like open. Think of like
a harried mom who's opening the bank is like fuck,
like we didn't bring the popsicles. That would never happen.
If it's too much, I agree, But I.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Even feel like that's true with straight women still, like
they are sunscreening themselves.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
They definitely have more access to.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
They have more access to.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
The instinct that straight men do not. But they and
so that is a problem with pretty much everything I've
said about straight all these straight ideas. Is there more
attacks on gate on straight men?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah, well but again I'm speaking completely.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Ribbing attack like a gentle rib it's tasteful.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Don't you think the pressure to be tan is a
very straight woman thing? Yes, that's what that is. I
think the reason why straight women true like some sun
burning is because it's all about getting tam.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Well, yeah, that's that's very like teen too.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Like even more so than gay because game then also
want to be tam. But straight women own being, like
you like, put baby o A on, like theres thing.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I did that when I was like thirteen, someone had that,
is it? What's the brand that, like, coconut oil?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, yeah, Hawaiian Tropic, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
I think so. And it was like set plus seven
SPF factor.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, nothing zero, not with that hole in these only.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
And my friend who had a different complexion to me,
she was wearing it. She was she was turning golden brown.
Whereas I put it on and I literally I was
like I had sunstroke. I was shaking. It was bad.
And it's probably why eventually I will cats cats I know.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I'm like, sure I will as well. And it's like
a moment. It's just like I'm mostly waiting and I'm like,
it don't.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Happen, but you do you get checked?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Oh you guys know I don't get checked.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
You don't you guys you have to get checked. Yeah,
it would.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Be really bad for my career if you like, if
there were any health issues that I don't know about it.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Oh my god, it's unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
It's so much doctor. You have to go to the dentist.
I know, you have to go to the skin you know, normal.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
What oh normal doctor. Yeah you do.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I mean gay doctor too.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
That's why I know about my potassium because of the
normal doctor. She did a.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Blood test, the normal doctor.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
But also she didn't say why potassium.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
She was just did was bad.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
No, but she's like it is.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
High, but she was she was like, you have high
high potassium, and that's your superpower exactly. I wish it was.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I didn't explain why it's bad, so I don't know
what am I mad to do. Maybe she didn't say
how to not have high potassium.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Huh huh.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
I guess if anyone's watching or listening who knows why
it's badge of high potassium, please call me.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, can you actually please comment directly to Claudia, not
to us, because I cannot say through comments about.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I don't open DM right now because now I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah, you're scared.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Now, I understand. You can see if I've seen it.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Speaking of SPF, the I think, let's see, I think
it's very SBF talk, being like did you know that
like thirty SPF means that it lasts for thirty minutes,
or like this SPF means this like you have to
That is also feels very straight woman to me, am
I wrong, Like.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, definitely, and well because I actually as a straight.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Woman, could you do love pain? What does it mean?

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Sun protection factor SBF quite literal is like the is
the number, okay, the fifty or whatever the number is
is the amount of time you can spend in the
sun without getting somebody.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
So it's like, so it literally is that.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
It's just so, No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Fifth, but it's not fifty minutes or fifty seconds. It's
fifty times the amount you could spend of time you
could spend in some without getting some burnt without sunscreen.
So let's say that's actually seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
WHOA, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
I think that's like based on your like that makes sense, honest. Actually, yeah,
so you could spend fifty times the amount of time
in the sun.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
That seems like you're saying I can apply a fifty
SPF just once and be in the slot.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
They're not taking into account you're dipping in the ocean
and you can't sweat.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
You can't dip in the ocean. Also, you have to
apply two to three tea spoons or something crazy like that.
You have to apply such a ridiculous amount of sun
screen to actually get what they're saying they can give you,
and that's impossible for me with such a small face.
I can't put that much liquid on my face. I try.
Doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Do you do a daily sunscreen? Of course I don't.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
I'm Australian. Yes, of course, of course I do two fingers,
but sometimes you went to do three.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
When someone says like, of course I do Australian, I'm like,
I don't think you understand. I have no idea what
the Australian.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Yeah is like sunny sunscreen.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
One's parents to pick them up and they'd have like
a bandage across their face because they've had something chopped
out of their face. Really, that's how because like, yeah,
and there's like a huge bat of sunscreen that everyone
uses communal sunscreen really, and there's a no hat, no
play policy in the playground because you will get burnt. Wow,

(56:36):
no no play. So I do wear a hat as well?

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Do you wear my?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Is that why your hair is rectangle?

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Probably? No, I didn't wear one here today it is cloudy,
but still the sp the UV factory is.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
High mat SPF. Hat is that something you're familiar with?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Sort of?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I never this new thing where they're like saying clothing.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Has yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Feels fake.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Yeah, I'm like, doesn't. Isn't all clothing? Yeah, it's cloth
protecting you from the sad.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Here's what I think. I think that SPF clothing could
be a great way to get men into the mix
because they love high tech clothing and synthetics. Yes, like
bike to work, that's true, or like things a lot
of zippers cargo, you know, unzipped, like shorts that become pants.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yes. Are we talking about men generally or straight men
straight man?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Because also it's like they're so scared of expressing themselves
in any way. So if they there's like a practical edge,
they can explore that. They're like, I'm being practical. This
is good for when I'm on my bike. Yes, but
they can't be like I need to protect myself because
that's too Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Wow, wait another Australia question.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Okay, go for it. Well I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yet, Okay, good, Okay, So you know how everyone was going?
Nor was that annoying?

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yeah? I'm so that was like the most annoying.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Because people really they think I want to hear they're
no or yeah, And obviously I have an Australian accent.
I say no, which maybe to you sounds like what
you just did. To me, they sound very different. Yeah yeah,
but that's just how accents work. Of course, we're going
to hit my age quite differently. But for some reason

(58:27):
people think I would love to hear.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Their no and that I would like murder someone like no.
I might imagine like just for a full two years,
everyone is going up to Claudia and being like no.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Well, it's a real breakthrough in the Australian accent reproduction
because it used to just be like a crocodile dundee, yeah,
the knife. It was a different thing. And it's like
now people have found a more effective pathway into the
Australian accent, so people are getting better at it. Yeah,
and like no is gateway. See I can't say it

(59:01):
because I'm like trying to think pet what you're doing.
But yeah, no, it's a crazy thing to do to
me when people are doing it for me. For me,
I'm like, I'm just like, what do you think is
happening right now?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Even when they weren't doing it for you, I'm sort
of like, what were you like? Was it like even
just seeing people like type it out, like the way
that it was like memified, was that like bizarre.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
I was like they're coming for me. I know it hunted,
you know, it was interesting, and now it is like
people are really doing it and it is it's just
like a party trick I love to do for me.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Interesting. Yeah. Wow. And then my next question is do
do you feel that Australian straight man have a more
healthy relationship to sunscreen than American streatment?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
That's a really wow. Well do you know I feel
like the Australian Australia it's like they've learned a lesson
a little bit and they're just like, well, I have
to I actually really have to wear something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
It's part of the ethnic identity. It's part of the
national culture.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Still you're seeing burnt men. You do see burntman, but
it's more likely in Sydney if you see a very
burnt man that he's British.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Uh. You know what It's like. It's like how it
used to be that speedos were like gay in America
but actually totally straight dad in Europe. It's different. Gay
slash straight norms change from locational locations, so in Australia,
unlike in the United States, it's not gay to wear sunscreen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Exactly, whereas like the straight men I know here are
all I guess like comedy men and they don't want
to go to the bak.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Can you imagine a male comedian putting on sunscreen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I've seen common Christopher put on sunscreen like he common
takes care of himself. Yeah, so that makes sense for him. Yeah,
George is silent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Yeah, so scary.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Here's what I'm thinking. I think I was about to say,
I'd say Carmen has like sort of olive skin like me,
But then I actually don't know what his ethnic background is,
so I don't want to misspeak. Do you I believe Mexican? Yeah,
oh so he is Latino, so that is different than
it is different than me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
But he's wearing sunscrepe, so that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Okay. My next Australia question is what is gay in Australia?
That is straight here? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I mean, like the answer can be a trick question.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
What is gay there? That is straight here?

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
He's gay there is straight here? What is gay there? Straight?
Do you have any I do you have any ideas?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Like the opposite is like the Speedo is gay here
but straight there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, so what's Oh I have one that is actually
straight in Australia and gay here, like I think dance
like dance. I think the Veronica's here is like lesbian
culture because I think the Veronica's in Australia is mainstream pop.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
It is. It's straight that's very straight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Like yeah, wow, that was a good example.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
That was a really I think, I mean maybe even
Kyl of Minoa doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
But I do think I even know who's also a
gay kind of Australia. True, it's because she's the Madonna
of Australia. Like she's she's mainstream just like Madonna is,
but it's still gay culture.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Yeah, she's part of gay culture. She might perform at
the Mighty Gras Pobby and that is obviously a very
gay event.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Yeah, but I think you know that shirt? I don't, Okay,
I think this is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
You know that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Do you remember that shirt that like navy blue shirt
that was like short slaved and it had like a
tiny flamingo or palm tree or pineapple on it, like
the print like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
As a pattern.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Yeah, and it's kind of separate like it's like spread.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Out, yeah, like a small It was like the one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
I feel like that's that was what's the question, didn't
what's straight here and what's gay there?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Yeah? Yeah, something that's straight here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
I'm seeing that as straight here and gay in Australia.
But I also saw it earlier in Australia, so it's
like gay sort of like normal, very normal gay guys.
We're adopting it as like the biggest like here's my
here's like my fun shirt. There's like microscopic flamingo on
the navy blue. Do you have this shirt?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
No, But I do actually think you're pointing to something.
I think that the idea of Hawaiian shirts more broadly
or like shirt it's like that in America is such
a specifically dad like thing. I actually think everywhere else
it's like such a bold print and you don't have
the cultural implication that it's like a lame dad tammy
Bahama thing to do. Yes, So I think I mean

(01:03:53):
just think of like it's like if I saw someone
wearing a flowery Hawaiian shirt in Greece, I wouldn't I
would think think they were like, you know, flaring it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Up you're thinking they're a straight person flaring flaring it
out there again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
That's very fashioned forward, like not a land dad.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Yeah, self expression yea, that is that not available to
a straight person here, a straight man here, they have
to I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Just think Tommy Bahama is so dominant in that space
that it's normal.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
We don't have Tommy Bahama in Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, when you guys get it, you're gonnau.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Is it a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
It's a brand of Hawaiian shirts, right, yeah, but they
might have a bar. It's very Tiva Tiva's, Like imagine
like Tiva's Mohamma's not Tiva's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Tommy Ohama's not Tiva's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Should the podcast become it's it's like Miami Tommy Mohamma.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Is more like Miami linen pants.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
I know. It's like like one are the Chaka's or
Chucka's one of these one of those shoes I'm thinking
of like Chaco's. Yeah, they're like a brown sort of
like like they look like they're made of straw almost,
but like a little shoe. Yes, that's more tim Mohamma.

(01:05:18):
Tiva is more like I'm like it's Patagonia more like
I'm hiking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
It's a hiker Campa. Yeah, they're going to campus.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
You know those shoes?

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Do you know that brand?

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
That European Brandish Spanish brand, and to is. I feel
like that one could be like get you somewhere and
straight somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I completely agree.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Yeah, yes, I actually I think I think I just
feel like it's somewhere in there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
I think that in I think that it's straight in
Europe because it's like mainstream and here. Like I literally
bought camper sandals last year because I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Was like, whoa, Okay, amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Yeah, I mean I think that's a real one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I love an international perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
I agree, yeah, but it made me feel scared that
I didn't understand Australia when you asked me that question
about what was gay or did you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Not understand any Yeah, maybe you didn't know gay people there?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Well I certainly do. So then I was like, God,
I'm not paying attention to my friends eno in Australia.
They're like word do they yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Spread that word is gay? Straight?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
In America?

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Don't they get annoyed when it's a word that specifically
in American spelling because we do spell differently, people using
words you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah, but that's so do so do most English.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Everybody else?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Does it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Just not U. You don't have time to add to you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah, well, well you have to make more money.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Exactly for you? Is my money is dipping out?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Yeah? Is there anything else to say about sunscreen or
Australia or being sunburned or Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Well, I'm decided you didn't want to talk about the
casino asthidic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
We didn't even touch upon that, you know, just candidly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yeah. Have you talked about it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
No, we haven't. It's just like it makes me think
of Donald Trump in a way that like I can't
even I just was like, I don't want to even
joke about it right now because I'm in such a
great mood after my amazing meeting where I figured out
the next ten years of my career.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
I've gotten a few emails.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
That's why he's been absent in this conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
A bunch of projects got renewed for more seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah, I mean it's it's just more work for me,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
We're going out to drinks after this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
But so that it was sort of my I was like,
I was sad. It made me sad. It's too real,
it's too real. But of course I agree with you. Yeah,
of course I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
It's one of those things too. Yeah, maybe it is
the Donald trumpness, but there is something about it what
I'm like, it's just so viscerally gross and doesn't speak
to me that I'm like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Of course, what do I say exactly? I just feel
like it's like there was a thing when I was
like a teenager. Well, it's like you know that thing
once against, Like everyone wants to dress up and it's
like the only costume straight guys feel like they can
do is like sort of like a rat pack. Yeah,
a casino against, which is also ultimately barely a costume,

(01:08:34):
Like it's like a shirt, a white shirts.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Like when people go as reservoir dogs, like hello.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Yes, totally, it's like that's nothing, it's nothing at all.
But like and then also there was this was a
party theme when I was like a teenager that I
never went to one, but it was like gangsters and moles,
Oh my god, mll So it's like eventually it's like

(01:09:01):
a sex worker.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
A female, Well do you know that it used to be. Now,
I don't think this would fly, but it used to
be pimps and parties in America.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Yeah, that's even more sad, really sad stuff really.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Great, No, it's bad. And also in Bridget Jones, what
was the party she was going to remember?

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
She just players and tarts and vickers. That's a British one. Tarts,
tarts t a R T s an accent problem because
you repeated tot Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Put you really just did an amazing America.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Well, because I just wanted you to understand. Sometimes there
are certain words I have to say so people know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
And it's tarts and vicars. Does tart mean wrror?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Okay absolutely, So that's why she will the play and
then everybody or the man got to be extremely clothed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Remind me why was it controversial if it was a
tarts and vickers party?

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Because there was a mix up. I recently watched it.
I recently watched it to get ready for the new one,
which I've.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Heard is great.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I can't wait anyway, But there was a mix up,
so she her dad and also I'll have something else
to say about that, which is have you noticed so
her dad was played by Jim Broadband, and now Colin
Firth is you know. It is obviously the love interest,
but he has sort of turned into Jim Broadman in
his older age.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
I have to look up a picture.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
I mean, like very handsome, and I love it. I'm
not criticizing the way anyone looks everyone, but it's interesting
he's become physically he's in the same genre now as
Jim Broadback. You know, I do think he could play
Jim Broadband.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Think that happened? Sorry, don't you think that happens with
British men? They kind of all grow into Jim Broadband.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Well this is just like this crazy. No, I'm dead
right about this. I'm a double ganger detecture. I can
really tell who.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
People looks crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Well, you're looking at a very recent I didn't he die?
Did he die?

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Did he?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Did?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
He? A whole lot?

Speaker 7 (01:11:04):
Jim broad Bent a live Bitch's he's alive? That old Yeah,
he's like but look, this is not like Colin Firth
even like old bigs.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
You have have you been watching Lockerbie?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
What what?

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
That's Colin first, my most recent TV show, where he
plays an older version of himself.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I'm sorry, is this some Apple TV?

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
I don't know. I see I've just been in Australia,
so I've been watching.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Oh it's an Australian show.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
No, it's a British show.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
I think all the TV is the same now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Well I just got brick Box, so it's a whole
new world for Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I've got brick Box too. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
I One of the horrifying things that happened recently is
I kept showing Matthew Catherine Tate sketches that I like,
loved as a team and he was not cracking a smile.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
That's That's one of the rest That is one of
the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Can you imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Don't show people things because yeah, and also don't be
shown things because it's really hard. When someone's like, do
you like this? Watch it? They're holding the phone. That's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
You have to give them a link and they can
watch on their.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Own time, privately, privately and they can decide what they
actually think. It's not fair. Socially, it's not fair, and
I think that's for gay and straight people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
That's universal across.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
It's so crazy that the idea of tartsan vicars, Like
there's a version of that every like there's a version
in America and in the UK and in Austria.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Yeah, and in the Australian want gangsism also sort of
like nineteen twenties, but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Still like but it's just because for women it's always.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Doesn't get close.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Yeah. I have two thoughts about this one. Once I
saw a TikTok that was about like, like how every
culture invents the dragon, like separate from each other because
there's like something about the dragon.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
That medium contrast, of course, and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
So like this sort of pimps and hose party is
the dragon of parties. Every culture comes together to create
this eventually, and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
It's such a sad concept. It really is devastating.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
And then the other thing I want to say is
it's are you familiar with the porn category clothed mail,
nude male kind of speaks for itself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Actually, no, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Kind of speaks for itself nude.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
I actually could imagine that being and just get one close.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Sort of like without when gender is removed, you still
want clothes mail. Somebody wants to be clothed and one
must be naked. No, But the problem is that the
gender defines who is clothed the nude, whereas it should
be like I want to be the nude male, I
want to be the clothes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
So you're saying clothed as male, unclothed as female.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Currently in current society, and I think it would be
radical if they could choose I want to unclothed or
I want to be closed. What we need is basically
they're trying to clothe.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
So we need to reduce the theme to clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Unclothed, clothes on clothed.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
We need gender swapped. Kanye West and Bianca and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Sorry where I know?

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
And also she's Australian. That's do you know her?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
You ran into her on your parents street.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
I looked at her. She scale, but.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Like, who's a you know, a famous powerful woman. It's like, Okay,
Selena gomezfortunate Sea Gomez should be fully clothed, and then
Benny Blanco should be fully nude.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
I just think they should be able to choose. It
should be like, you know, who wants to be clothed,
he wants to be nude.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Yeah, But I think we need to make up for
the year, the generation, the generations of Like I think
women need to frankly cover up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Need to be nude, yes bad, and then once they've
done it for maybe one hundred years, and then we
can and then we can do everyone choose shoes, then
you can choose.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I also, I really am I'm talking fully nude because
I actually don't like well duh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
The idea that like, you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Know what I don't like is like the sort of
red carpet fashion right now where it's like men have
their arms out or men are only wearing a vest.
Like that's a little too uh. It's the word faggy, okay,
like whereas if it's new then it's almost like ancient
Greek like Olympics, like be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
A man, not faggy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
So it's like it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
No, it's like sportsmanship and and and competition, competition, the
Atlantic spirit give. I think it's less so than having.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
You know what I loved? Do you remember, like was
this like you know, six years ago or something. There
was some I forgot. It was like raft Simmons or
something who did the suits where it was just the
diick hole cut out. Yes, yes, yes, I thought that
was kind of genius.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
That's funny, that could be fun Yeah, you'd have to
put sunscreen on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Of course, get it hard, get it hard to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Get literally like some more makeup lady being like, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Recommend no putting the sunscreen on before you put the
suit on, because sometimes putting like a sweater on, you're like,
oh no, this sounds green.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Really careful stuff like that. Someone who wears sunscreen. Yeah,
you never wear sunscreen, Sam, and you've never had a
skin check.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Do not attack him. I wear on screen. I just
haven't done it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
You Okay, great, I don't do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
When I moved to Los Angeles, California one year ago,
I tried to do a daily sunscreen. Yeah, but it
gets in my eyes, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Staying us You're using a chemical. You need to use
a mineral. It won't burn your eyes. If you do
a minerals on screen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
You just can't get to well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
You just need to get a Korean sunscreen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Yeah, what do you of those?

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
You have, Jason? There's just like these special websites where
you can get Korean stuff, and I can't remember what
they're called. Well, and I called things like style vana ooh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I but yeah, I've been trying to end of the
game you've got the parties just like it's too late.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I feel like I've that's wrong. I've aged so much
in the last three years. I just look at I
growing up. I was always like babyface, baby face, Like
I'd be twenty six and people be like, are you
in high school and suddenly I age?

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
You're ripped?

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
No, well it is because the first time I aged
was because I lost weight. Because losing weight ages you.
Oh yeah, use yes, no one talks about that. Yes.
And when I got on ozembic, yeah, I lost weight.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Once a zampic is made out of is like, well, okay, no,
say I will is that like they got it from
lizard venom? So it's like, is that the witchiest thing
you've ever heard? Is like, if you take a potion
made out of lizard venom, you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Can hate that? Actually that's so cool.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Yeah, no, I know it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
I think it seems good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I mean as long as diabetic
people do not.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Really give it to them first please.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
But otherwise I think it's a win win for everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Basically, that's like the fantasy of science that you like
can be like, oh, I actually have lizard venom and
I took a little bit of it and it actually
made me better.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
That said, I would hate to not have an appetite
to not like artistry chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Yeah, well, now I'm scared. I don't want to offend anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
No, no, no one has ever been offended.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Everything I love.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
We put a disclaimer at the beginning of every episode
that says we are not in a place to be
place to be packed.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
I'm never in that place.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Well, you're in the right industry. Should we do our
final segment?

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Our final segment Claudia is called shout Outs, and in
this segment we pay homage to the grand straight oral
tradition of the radio shout out. You know, shout out
to something and you know, imagine your Tyrrell you're calling
into a big radio show. The reason we're both looking
very distracted is because we think of them on the spot.
I'm really trying to think of one right now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
So it's like things two things you like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Yeah, yes, that's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Let me think, Let me think, let me think.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh
my god, oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Oh I think I can do one?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Oh please?

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Okay, Well, what's up, freaks, the losers. I want to
give a shout out to the store in New York
that does the genes that I was talking about. It's
called the Consistency Project. The Consistency Project on Atlant in Brooklyn.
They the best girls there, they will literally they. I
went there once, and then I went there against six

(01:20:07):
months later. They remember me by name. They said, George,
welcome back, and they and they gave me the most
perfect pair of Levi's five oh fives I've ever owned.
I was rugg them the other day. I've also gotten
a pair of stan Rays there that were fit to
my exact measurements. Those are even cheaper. Please support your
local small business owned by women who know their way

(01:20:29):
around demand's body non sexually, because I was very comfortable
the entire time, and so shout out to the Consistency Project.
Go there if you want a nice pair of vintage jeans.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Oh beautiful. Okay, I don't stop me if I already
did this, but it's time. What's up, freaks, losers and yes, perverts.
I want to give a huge shout out to my
little earring. I you know, for many, many years, I've
been like, it's time I should get a little earring.

(01:21:00):
I should get a little earring. Then everyone already had one.
I said, okay, it's really good. This clock is tick in.
I should get little earring. Finally I pulled the trigger
not a second too late. I feel like it's incredible.
I feel like my whole look has changed. And I
get why people are like, no, it's like fun, like
you get like addicted. Because I was like, wow, a
big shift, just like that, just one little, one little

(01:21:23):
appointment and there you go. And now I feel that
I'm punk rock. I've never been edgier in my life.
I am ready to fucking beat up people. And all
my normal clothes don't feel so normal anymore because I
am a freak weirdo with one little earring xoxo.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
I'm like, hi, great, oh no, now you can go,
hi freaks. Everyone got all the pervts out there. I'm
going to give a shout out to the cuco I've
been making.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Oh yum.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Yeah. So I love a really weak hot cocoat drink,
one that comes with powdered milk, within the within the
cana stuff. So I was on a camping well sort
of a camping trip. Don't make me explain when I
what I mean by And we found we found this
hot cocoa the stuff that has the powdered milk within it.

(01:22:21):
And you're meant to add like a lot and you're like,
it's meant to be very sweet, but if you do
it my way, it's not that sweet at all. You
just put a lot of hot water in and it's
the perfect wintery chocolatey. Wait at the end of the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Day, Wow, do you want to shout out the brand?

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
I couldn't tell you what the brand is. A shouldn't
look for anything that has cocoa, sugar and milk powder
in it, and you're going to put in much less
than the instructions tell you to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Less is more, you hear exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
It's watery, it's it's like a whisper of chocolate diness
and it's barely sweet. And that's what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Looking That was electric.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Yeah, thank you freaks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Damn well, do you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Not to be weird of anything you want to promote?

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
I actually, seriously don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Yeah, it's like a crazy time in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
No. Actually, when people have something they want to promote,
I'm like enough.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Yeah, everyone can figure it out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Yeah, Google, Google, Yeah, Mr.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Exactly, DM me. I'll open it. I'll then swipe across,
thinking you can't tail. I've looked at it. Oh man,
that's I mean the amount of people I've just accumiliated
myself so many times because I've said to so many people,
oh my god, just seeing this. Yeah, they have had
sane on there for three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
But maybe they thought you like opened it while driving
and suson meta or something.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
It's also like enough with like this sort of surveillance. Yes,
I just saw it in the sense that I'm just
replying to it exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
It's no one's business what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Yeah. I'm also like, well, I'm saying this to someone.
I'm trying to make peace with this. We're not perfect,
you guys. We're gonna make mistakes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Remember when I scowled exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
That was close.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
For a year, I've been thinking times that nice. But
now we know you are nice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
I was nice on the party though, right, but you
are like, what what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Like two hours ago, I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Sure where it was, and I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
It on Sunset Boulevard.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Yeah, can I tell you something. I wish I remember
who this was. Literally two days ago someone told me
they saw you in your car and tried to say hi,
and you ignored them. Who was it? I will look
think back to who I've seen on this trip, but literally,
this just happened.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Well, okay, I'm driving, I'm supposed to the road, right,
I'm taking my mirrors exactly, I'm looking for people, for bicyclists.
Who was it? I need to know scene, I have
to know. Yeah, I'm open to saying hello.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
The thing you have to tell us is like, do
you ever like think to you do you find yourself
like someone smiling at you and you're like, ew, no,
I loses problems. No if I mile back at them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
I think it's the opposite. I think I'm just like
in my head, no idea. I mean, okay, it's not
the exact opposite. That's a I misspoke. It's simply different.
It's simply different.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
I think I just am in my head and I'm
like not thinking about like the public, Like I'm not
thinking I'm in public, and so I'm sort of like lost,
and then people look at me and I'm sort of
like ocience.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
So it is the opposite in the sense that it's
not that you think you're better than someone, it's that
you think no one would ever notice you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Yeah, like I'm not here, Yeah, but you're so here.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Yeah, and you better start acting like it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
I will never scowl again.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I can't get I can't get a reputation as a scowler.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
I know you want to shout reputation, okay, yeah, and
you might look them up and be like, this is
so interesting. But the price has gone up since I
it's Margaret Hall.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Claudia what. Literally two weeks ago we mosted a reel
where I was wearing a Margaret House sweater and multiple
people ask me where I got my sweater and I
had to literally say, it's Margaret Hell. But it was
really discounted on Essence.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Yeah, because yeah, I know Essence is the place to
get her stuff. Yes, if she even is a real person,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Anything about her. Yeah, but they are the softest sweaters
that Mine is more like a turtleneck one, and it's
so soft.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
It's just like I really love Angel's whisper exactly. So yes,
I do have a Margaret House sweater.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Well, congratulations. I guess things aren't bad.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
So maybe I do have some secret for Jay, but
I'm not shouting them out not here. I don't want
to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I would love to be sponsored by Margaret Howell because
I actually now cannot afford.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Apparently, so it's a British brand cpently it's huge in Japan.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Oh that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, why does it make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Because I think it's like simple, simple lines like classic, classic,
good taste, not showy, kind of the definition of quiet luxury.
I would say, I don't know if we're still using that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
So it's silent, yeah, even when.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
It's Yeah, it was screaming at us.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Yeah, well at George, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
About it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Do you even like your sweater?

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Oh my god, you're just thinking about your earring.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
No, you can't do it. I'm being attacked on my
own podcast. This is crazy. Rive Oh my god. When
George says something, I take credit for it too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Okay, that's that's allowed. You can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Because I imagine if you said I love your sweater,
and I was like, and I love your sweater, we're objectified.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
I'd like that to so nice. That's so nice.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Maybe Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
That's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
My worries it's too floppy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
No, no, no, even if it gets floppy, that just
means it's like oversize. And you're yeah, and you're like
a tiny You're like a girl in college, girl in college,
rich girling rich girls.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Okay, well, this has been a delight. Thank you so
much for.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
Doing the Thank you so much. And do you know
a secret. I've had a migraine the whole time. No,
level two, level three. I took assume a trip down
before I got here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
It's fine, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Also, we can't publicize I mean, you can put it
in a podcasts, but we can't publicize that too much
because it will remove my excuse of I often say
I've got migraines.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
We really appreciate, but I do have one right now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
It's it's just like this. But I had to come.
I've always wanted to be on this show. The first
time I saw it made Higgins she posted die for
She's to die for and so.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
That was one of our best episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
That was the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
That you called the Ireland trending.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
That's right, and you and I was completely right that
Ireland was trending and it's still.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Is it still trending.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Now? People are even right there was like a vulture
piece or something. People are writing things about how Ireland
is having a moment and two years on board.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
I think he's very talented. But I think Paul Mescot
was miscasting Gladiated too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
I didn't seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
It's just like he's too nice to be the Gladiator.
I've heard this from other people as well, but I
think he's great.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
People have strong opinions. Someone in the city Los Angeles
told me that Gladiator two was the worst movie he
had seen this year.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Wow, I heard it was quite bad.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
I liked it. When there were sharks in the coliseum,
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
I want to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
It was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Sure they should put that into a YouTube video.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
Why doesn't look really I forgot the shout out Juror
number two.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
We have to stop all right?

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Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
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Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
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Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
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Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
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