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Get ready to wed This is Strange Things when Warren.
I am Joshua PE Warren, and each week on this show,
I'll be bringing you brand new my blowing content, news exercises,
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and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more on this edition of the show Weird Ancient Giants. Now,
I have a reason for bringing up this topic. I'm
doing some research for a special trip I will be
taking soon and I will get to that later. I've
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been intimidated by this topic though for a long time,
because I know when when you think about giants, you
might say, yeah, okay, there used to be giants, big deal.
We had dinosaurs one time and then they died, what's
the big deal. But when you start digging into this
topic of ancient giants, you start entering this kind of
an almost moth man esque scenario where data appears and
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then disappears, and archives go missing, and there are these
shadowy figures that are kind of on the outskirts, uh,
guarding information. And uh, Honestly, sometimes I I'll tell you
something about this. I found information that it's just vanished,
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and it's almost like a Mandela effect, you know how,
like you remember like I saw something, and then you
go back to find it again and it's like, oh,
this never existed. Uh. And I will warn you if
you start researching the Mandela effect and you really get
into it, you will go down a rabbit hole that
will probably eventually make Cuban sane. So I don't recommend
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that for the faint of heart. Speaking of which, I'll
just bring this up as a side note. I was
recently watching the nineteen forty one Universal movie The Wolfman
with Lawn Cheney Jr. And you know, here I am
with Lauren watching this whole movie, and I'm waiting to
see the famous scene where his face transforms into the Wolfman.
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And guess what, it never happens. It doesn't exist. His
face is never shown transforming into the Wolfman. Now spoiler alert,
at the end of the movie, you do see his
face transform from the Wolfman back into a man, but
I don't know how ill He's just I remember, you know,
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his face turning into it. Now I know his face
turned into the Wolfman and some sequels, so maybe that's
where the confusion comes in. But I don't know. I
just figured that that was just another either example of
miss remembering things or the Mandela effect. Who knows, But
you're gonna see as I try to tackle this complex
subject of ancient giants, how that uh these sort of
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like bizarro uh mirages and shimmerings sort of sort of
occur around the edges of the history when you're trying
to figure out what the story is behind these beings
because people say, oh, we had these remains, these amazing remains,
and then you never get to see them anymore, you know, officially, scientifically,
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they say, historians have have proclaimed the tallest man who
ever lived was Robert Wadlow. And he was born in
Illinois in nineteen eighteen and died in nineteen forty at
the age of twenty two. He was eight ft eleven
point one inches tall, So it looks like for those
of you who are not in the US, that's about
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two point seven two meters And he weighed four hundred
and thirty nine pounds or one hundreds when he died.
He had this condition called hyper trophy of his pituitary gland,
so he had a bunch of h g H human
grow human growth hormone um. And they said that when
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he died it looked like he was still growing. If
he lived longer, he may have gotten bigger. And uh,
you know, as you go down like the timeline, they say,
when he was born, he was just a normal sized baby,
and then uh, at eleven months when he began to walk,
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he was three and a half feet tall. When uh,
let's see, he was nine years old, he was strong
enough to carry his father up the stairs to the
second floor while his father was sitting in a chair.
Mind you and uh, he gradual waited high school in uh,
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let's see, at the age of seventeen. And he was
eight ft three when he graduated high school. So um,
very interesting guy. He was really strong his whole life.
He never was in a wheelchair, but he did use
braces for his legs eventually, and so apparently at some point, uh,
a brace kind of rubbed his leg the wrong way
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and it gave him an infection, and he had an
autoimmune disorder. In that infection you know, became a problem
where they gave him like a blood transfusion. But anyway,
that's how he died. Now, the tallest person alive today
is a man in Turkey and his name is Sultan
Cosen and he was born in nineteen eighty two and
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he is now thirty nine years old and he is
eight ft two point eight two inches, which is they
say two centimeters. Um again, I'm sorry, I'm a stupid American.
I don't know about these metric conversions. But uh, anyway,
so same kind of deal. He has like a tumor
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on his pituitary gland and he uses crutches to walk.
And it's funny because I saw a picture of him
the other day, and here he was just standing next
to a basketball hoop on the cork there, and he's
just dropping that basketball right in like it's nothing, you know,
but anyway, so that gives you an idea of what
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we know is possible. All right, So let me begin
by telling you that when I was a kid, and
I don't know how old I was, but I was
pretty little. Um, one of my relatives bought me this nice,
big hard copy, hard back copy of Readers Digest Mysteries
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of the Unexplained, which I think made a profound impact
on my life. And I've got it right here in
my hands now. And I came across this story that
just really caught my attention and fired up my imagination
when I was a kid. Let's see here it says, okay, no,
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basically what they do in this book as they go
back and they find old newspaper reports and and kind
of reproduced them, and it says here human skulls with
horns were found in a burial mound at Sayer, Bradford County,
Pennsylvania in the eighties. Except for the horny projections some
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two inches above the eyebrows. The men to whom these
skeletons belonged were anatomically normal, though at seven ft tall,
well above average height. It was estimated they were buried
about eighty The find was made by a reputable group
of antiquarians, including a Pennsylvania state historian and a dignitary
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of the Presbyterian Church. And they give the names of
all these kind of people. And this was published somewhere,
apparently at least um Well, there was a publication in
nineteen seventy three that that repeated that, okay, so that's weird.
I was like, what we found seven foot guys with horns?
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This is not front page news. And then here's another
one from the same book. Seven skeletons were found in
a burial mound near Clearwater, Minnesota, in eighteen eighty eight.
They had double rows of teeth and the upper and
lower jaws, and had been buried in a sitting position
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facing the lake. The foreheads were unusually low and sloping,
with prominent brows. And then this goes on to say, uh.
In nineteen eleven, miners began to work the rich guano
deposits and love Lock Cave, twenty two miles southwest of
the Nevada town of love Luck. They had removed several
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carloads of guana when they came upon some Indian relics.
Soon afterward, a mummy was also found. Reportedly, it was
that of a six and a half foot tall person
with distinctly red hair. According to the legends of the
local Piute Indians, a tribe of red haired giants. The
Citacause were once the mortal enemies of the Indians in
the area, who had joined forces to drive the red
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heads out. John T. Reid of love Luck, mining engineer,
avidly interested in Indian lore, became convinced that the mummy
substantiated the Piute legend, and in the years that followed,
devoted himself to proving it. Included in his growing file
on red headed giants were descriptions of hair robes once
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worn by a few Piutes. The hair was human and
of a reddish brown color. In the meantime, the discoveries
that love Luck had generated interest among archaeologists. Okay, I've
heard about this, uh, and you know what, without reading
all the rest of this, uh, the story that you
hear when you live here in Nevada, I live in
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Las Vegas, So that's about uh seven hour drive north
of me. I've not been there. I've I think George
Knapp did a nice report about it, and um, what
you what you find is that people said that like
a lot of these were giants. Uh. They would have
double rows of teeth. Sometimes they had six fingers and
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six toes, and they're cannibals. They were cannibals. And at
love Lack Cave, they said that they would dig a hole,
uh like a deadfall, I guess, and put sharp sticks
in there, and when a human would fall in, well,
the giants would go over there and they pull them
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out of that hole, and then they throw them in
a satch and take them back to the cave and
eat them. And finally the Native Americans they went over
there and lit fires and burned out that cave and
burned them all to death. Let me tell you something,
This story is gonna get weirder and weirder and weirder.
But it's time for a break. And uh, I want
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you to know, like I've told you before, I'm probably
going to take a break for the month of December two.
I'm probably just gonna chill out and unpacks a lot
of stuff in my new house because you know, I
have a lot of work to do, and I have
a whole new company that I'm gonna be opening up
next year that I've been working on four years. But
even though I may not be uh doing a podcast
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for the holiday, I will be giving away all kinds
of free stuff. Two people who are subscribers to my
e newsletter, go to Joshua pe Warren dot com, type
in your email address there on the homepage, hit submit,
and you'll instantly receive some free digital gifts from me.
Right then and there, I am Joshua Pete Warren, and
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you are listening to Strange Things on the I Heart
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And I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange
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Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
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Wizard of Weird, Joshua pe Warren, beaming into your wormhole
brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, of Vada,
where every day is golden and every night is silver.
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In the Bible, let's see here Genesis six, chapter six,
verse four, it says there were giants in the earth
and those days and also after that when the sons
of God came in unto the daughters of men and
they bear children to them, the same became mighty men,
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which were men of old, men of renown. Um. You know,
there are so many different translations of the Bible, and uh,
we're talking about the Nephelim here fallen angels as they
are sometimes called. There's more about this in the Book
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of Enoch um angels who fell from heaven and apparent
they were really really big. But you know, here's the
thing about the Book of Enoch right here, I'm looking
at the Encyclopedia article here, and it says when it
comes to his books, none of the three Books of
Enoch are considered canonical scripture by the majority of Jewish
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or Christian bodies. So I don't know, what what what
do you make of that? Ancient ancient documents like that
are just almost impossible to truly understand. You just have
to piece things together and have some faith in what
you what you feel is right, what you feel you
should believe. But the Bible does, of course talk about Goliath,
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and that's uh. One of the most memorable stories from
the Bible was when David defeated Goliath, And let's go
back and look at that story. Uh. He has described
in most translations as being four cubits and a span
or x cubits in a span. And so n C
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Register here, which is the National Catholic Register uh n
C register dot com has an article about this. And
they said, uh, they took that this passage, and they
sent it to all kinds of different experts, and so
one expert said that means he was at least nine
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ft nine inches tall. And then there was another expert
that said, uh, if a cubit the link from the
elbow to the tip of the middle fingers about one
and a half feet, and the span the distance from
the thumb to the middle or little finger, uh, stretched apart,
would be half a cubit and six cubits in a span,
what equal about nine ft nine inches and and and so.
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But there are other people who think he may have
been even taller. So look what they basically arrived at
is that everybody says that according to the Bible, this
guy was eight ft five to ten ft six somewhere
in that rank. A big man by anybody's standards. And
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that's interesting, really when you think about it. Because you
know how it is when you go into like some
old home that was built in the eighteen hundreds or
even the seventeen hundreds, and everything looks so small, and
you think, man, people were little back then, and you
look at their beds and stuff and they seem very little.
On the other hand, uh, resources to build a home.
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We're also more limited back then. So it's hard to
say how you engauge what a quote unquote giant is right,
but we do have these references. They go back that far.
And when I was doing all my research, gosh, I
don't even know how long ago, probably like almost twenty
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years ago into um to a lot of giant stories
like the ones in my neck of the woods, Judicolor
the slant eyed Giant and Judaicolor Rock is in Colloween,
North Carolina, which is near western North Carolina. It's it's
in western North Carolina. It's near Asheville, and there's a
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rock with all these weird carvings, these petroc glyphs on it.
And I was doing a lot of research on that,
and everybody said the legend was that there was this big,
slant eyed giant with six fingers and he dominated that
area and that was his hunting territory, and that this
stone was his marker, you know. Um And again it
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goes back to this idea of a giant of old,
often with double rows of teeth, sometimes horns, red hair,
six fingers, six toes. Um. Nobody knows exactly what the
markings on Judicolor rock me and I have I guess,
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like just one possible theory that I've sort of tossed
out there about what the markings may mean. If you
go to Juda coolor rock dot com, you can watch
a little video that I did about this not too
long ago. J U d A c U l l
A j U d A c U l l A
judah color rock dot com. You can watch this video
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and see um. But I'm bringing this up because I
started looking into Judaicolor Rock and the stories about these giants,
and then I ended up eventually getting a job for
a job with the Travel channel. I was on every
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episode of a TV series called Paranormal Paparazzi, where I
traveled all over the country and good reports at weird places.
And one of the places I went was in Georgia,
which of course is right next to North Carolina. To
a place called track Rock, and track Rock is located
there in uh, let's see the Brass Town Ranger District
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of the Chattahoochee National Forest in Georgia. And track Rock
has all these weird petrick lifts on it. And I
went to track Rock and I said, you know what,
I don't know who made the marks on Judah Color Rock,
and I don't know who made the rocks who made
the markings on a track rock, But I think the
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same group of people made these markings on these rocks.
They looked that similar to me. Um. But when I
started trying to figure out more about, you know, like
what was happening there, UM, what I found was that, uh,
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there there's no good consensus. And I believe eve there
there's a fellow named Scott Walter out there who used
to have a show on the History Channel, and uh, honestly,
I I probably should have prepared better, but I don't
remember what that show was called. UM. But he he
went to some of these exotic kind of places and
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he looked into these mysteries and he made a pretty
good case for the fact that, um, the Mayans from
Central America may have actually been traveling as far north
as Georgia and possibly even North Carolina. And of course
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we can't officially prove that, but I mean, how would
you mean what? We didn't have cameras back then, no satellites,
I mean, um, and the Mayans not only were some
of their markings similar to some of the things that
we've seen on these rocks, but also um, best I
recall there was some clay they discovered from Georgia that
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was in some of the dies that these Mayans were
using in Central America. So it would not surprise me
if there were Mayans traveling that far north back in
those days. And and the Mayans they look scary, they
look monstrous sometimes, you know, Um, they would always well,
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they would paint themselves. Sometimes they would grind their teeth
to points. And scary looking people. But they were short.
Turns out, did you know that? I always thought that
Mayans were probably tall, just because they look so spooky,
And no, the Mayans were short. Some people considered the
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Mayans to be pygmies of the ancient world. As a
matter of fact, Uh, the tallest people thousands of years
ago were Europeans who are around like Uh, I don't
know the Netherlands in that kind of area, and they
are not like six ft tall, maybe six to even
thousands of years ago, but the Mayans were like five
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ft five too, So you can almost say, all right,
the Mayans came up, and the Mayans left a lot
of these weird artifacts and carvings and created all these
scary stories, and because they would decorate themselves in all
these bizarre ways, but it doesn't explain the giant part.
That's still a mystery. So as I was looking into
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all this, I came across this story about this place
in North Carolina. Now that's where I'm from. And let's see,
it's called Garysburg. And I'm looking up right now, how
far that Garysburg is from Asheville, where I lived at
the time. I know it's near Roanoke Rapids, so if
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you drive from Asheville to Garysburg, it takes you about
five hours. So when I was doing a lot of
my research, I got together with my buddy Casey Fox,
and uh, I've known him since literally we were like,
let's see, I think I met him in the first grade, right,
And Casey and I we decided to take a trip
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to Garysburg. And that is because that I came across
this really weird article saying that, uh, in the eighteen
let's see, I think it was something sometime in the
eighteen hundreds. There were some railroad workers that were near Gearysburg,
North Carolina, and they uncovered a chamber with giant human
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skeletons and their teeth were supposedly ground to sharp points.
But there was no follow up on what happened to
the bodies. So Casey and I we drove there and
I interviewed everybody in this little town, and I went
to the library. When we come back, I'm gonna tell
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you what happened. I'm also going to tell you how
you can earn a reward. There is some missing information
that I want. Maybe some sleuth out there we'll be
able to finally get it, and then I'll tell you
what my special trip is all about. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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You're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio
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Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
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pe Warren and this is the show where the unusual
becomes usual. I found this article somewhere online many years ago,
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and uh it's it talked about these giant skeletons that
were found, um somewhere in Gary'sburg, North Carolina. So, and
I've talked about this before to some extent on this podcast.
I went there with Casey, and Uh, the weirdest thing
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is that there was this lady there, Aaron. I think
her name was Stevens and I anyway, I met with
her and her husband had died uh years before that,
but he was a big collector of fossils in the
area and he had built this whole like what do
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you call it. He felt like a fossil covered building
on his property. And his wife, his widow, took me
in Casey into this. It's it's almost like a roadside
attraction kind of thing, or at least it was back then.
And he had discovered gigantic artifacts from the area. I
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mean like acts, blades and things like that. I can't
remember everything. It would been a way too big for
an average person to wield. And I photographed all of that,
and then, like I said, we went to the library
and I I couldn't find a kind of follow up
information in the library. So after that, I wrote an
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article about my trip to Garysburg for Fate Magazine and
it was published, and I have a copy of it
in my storage unit and one I have multiple storage units.
You probably know this there. I blow a lot of
money every year, every month on just storage units. I
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gotta consolidate, and like that's what I'm always trying to
sell stuff. It's like I have too much stuff I have.
I have one of my storage units in Asheville has
got some of my old articles, and I'm sure that
that article is there. I don't know where it is.
It's buried somewhere deep in the raiders of the Lost
Arc warehouse. But since then I have gone back and
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I have tried to find that article online. Cannot find it.
The one about the railroad workers finding the giant skeletons
in Garysburg, North Carolina. I have tried to find the
article that I wrote for Faith Magazine, and I cannot
find it here online. I do not have a physical
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copy of it. I contacted Phyllis Galdy, who owns Fate Magazine,
and said, can you please locate this article that I wrote,
and she can't find it. I contacted Vance Pollock, Sherlock Pollock,
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who also has done work with Faith Magazine, and I said,
can you find this article? And he couldn't find it either.
I'm telling you I wrote I went out there. Okay,
let me put it this way. I saw this weird
story about these giant romains Casey, and I went out there.
I studied everything, I took pictures, I wrote an article
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about it. It was published nationally, and now it's like
none of it exists anymore. I can't find the original
article that I read the newspaper report, and I can't
find the article that I published from in Fate magazine.
So I'll tell you what I'm I'm gonna. I'm I'm
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offering a reward right now. If you are the first
person who contects me, and you have either of those things,
you can have the original a newspaper article from Garysburg.
Uh yeah, Garysburg, North Carolina, and it might have been
Roanoke Rapids. Let's see, I'm looking at what I do
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have here. Um oops, I have too many windows open here. Uh. Well, look,
if you have got the the original article from Garysburg,
North Carolina, or you have the article about my trip
there that I wrote for Fake magazine. Uh, and you
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have a PayPal account, I will send you one hundred
dollars as a reward. I say PayPal because that just
makes it easy for everybody. And people listen to this
show all over the world, and uh, I don't have
to deal with like the currency exchange and all that.
So there's you know, that's that's a challenge for you, right.
The first person who has either one of those things
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gets a hundred dollar reward. And I look at this
type of scenario and I think this is another example
of this kind of almost a mothman esque or Mandela
affect element to these stories surrounding these ancient giants and
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and and the weirdness about who they were and what
they were and where are they now. And I've even
been contacted by a number of people in my life
who have told me that there is a whole unit
of individuals out there that are almost like the men
in Black, and their sole mission is to go out
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and to cover up evidence of these giant beings, perhaps
the Nephelim or something like that. That's their their their
whole purpose. Maybe they're like the M I B s
from the Peara temporal loop hypothesis that I wrote about
in the Secret Wisdom of Cucko khan Um. Or it
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could be like somebody told me, oh, you don't know,
the Smithsonian has got their own secret service, and they
go out and they swoop in when a truly amazing
find is made, and they take that find and they
put it in a special warehouse and they go to
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their biggest donors because apparently, uh, you know, the word
on the street is the Smithsonian has got huge, huge,
super duper rich people that give money every year, and
those people, according to the conspiracy theory, get the first pick.
So if you find something that's amazing, like let's say
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you found a dead bigfoot tomorrow before you put it
out there on public display and you never get a
piece of that, you might take it to this weird
rich dude and uh say, hey, if you would like this,
you know, let's let's let's talk. Let's talk. So there
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may be this whole underground of shady, bizarre, super rich
people who have got the ultimate man cave. You know,
it's like you you walk in there, or woman cave.
I mean I guess it can go either way. You
know what I'm saying. You make friends with them and
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they're like, hey, let me share you something. Because I
have been to pe Bol's houses before who have been like,
all right, I like you, let me show you something.
And they take you through like a secret passageway and
they share you and you go down there and here's
here's a stuff tasquatch, here's a here's a nessy, here's
a dead alien. Now I haven't seen those things, but
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I'm just saying that's the conspiracy theory that that might
exist out there. So maybe that's another possible explanation for
all this. But anyway, the reward is on the table.
So let's take all that and funnel it into the
trip that I'm about to take. So here in Nevada,
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of course, like I told you, we have this place
called the love Lock Cave. Well it turns out, um
not far from there in Fallon, Nevada is a place
called the Spirit Cave, and that is where the oldest
human mummy ever sound in North America was discovered. Think
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about that, the old I bet almost none of you
probably knew that that the the oldest human mummy found
in North America was found and Spirit Cave in Foulon, Nevada.
And this mummy. Get a load of this. Are you ready?
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This mummy was ninety four hundred years old. Yeah, nine thousand,
four hundred years old. That's crazy, isn't it. Like you know,
people talk about Jesus like Jesus lived two thousand years ago,
and that seems like an unimaginable amount of time. Hundred
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years ago. So that Spirit Cave. Well, guess what you know?
I own this uh tour here in Nevada. It's called
the Haunted Boulder City Ghost and UFO Tour, and it's
it takes place in Boulder City, Nevada, which is about
a thirty minute drive outside of Las Vegas. And uh,
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one of my guides as a man named Alan, who
I guess he's in his sixties, and uh he's lived
Boulder City for thirty years. And he said, hey, have
you ever been to Spirit Mountain? I said, what he said? Yeah,
Spirit Mountain? So like an hour from Boulder City there
is this mountain called Spirit Mountain, which according to the
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Native Americans in that area, I mean, like you know,
the Mojave Indians of the yumas the human people. This
is the most sacred place in the universe. They say,
this place called Spirit Mountain, which kind of is a
nondescript mountain out there in the middle of the desert.
They say, this is a portal. This is the place
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from which all life emerged and two which all life
will return. This is the center of all consciousness and
mystery and excitement. And there's one spot there in particular
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that's supposed to be the quintessential spot. When we come
back from this break, I'm gonna tell you about my
upcoming trip to Spirit Mountain, and then I want to
read some emails. I need to get back some emails.
One guy said that he has discovered a possible new
ghost hunting tool that could be a game changer. I'm
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Joshua Pete Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the
I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a am para
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to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things
on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am
paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren.
I'm excited. I want to see if somebody can go
out there and get these rewards. Find that old article
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about the bodies the giant skeletons from Garysburg, or even
my article from Fate magazine. But remember only the first
person gets the reward. Okay, if a hundred of you
contact me, the first person gets it. So here I am.
I'm about to make this trip to Spirit Mountain, of course.
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And so Lauren she gets online and we're actually working
on a UM on a project that has to do
with like old fossils and stuff. You'll learn more about
that in the near future. And she just started typing in,
you know, information about fossils and boom, you know, Spirit
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Mountain here in Nevada, an hour from Boulder City where
I have my tour. It popped up and so apparently
ancient human remains have been found around there as well.
And I just can't wait to make this trip two
Spirit Mountain. And of course I'll be going with with
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Lauren and Alan, and I think Jason Saracchi is gonna
come as well, and we're gonna shoot some footage. And boy,
I mean, like this is what keeps me going, going
out there, and and like what is this gonna be like,
this is the place where all of these Native Americans
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say that life originated. It's the the the the most sacred,
the holiest place, and there is a holiest of holies
at this spot. I'm not gonna tell you right now
where it is, but Alan knows where it is. So
I'm gonna go to the holiest of holies and then
I'm gonna bring back this free report to you. That's
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what I do. That's part of my life here. It's
just going out there and experiencing the mysterious. And you
know what, this is a free show, and I know
that most of you listening will never have that opportunity.
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go to Spirit Mountain, and that will be coming to
you very soon. And given the fact that the oldest
mummy in North America was discovered like seven hours from there,
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there's no telling. All right, let me squeeze in some
emails here. I have just been going on and on.
It's so hard to fit all this like giant lore
into some kind of special podcast because there's just too
much of it. This comes from Scott H. Scott's c
He says Morning Joshua Um. He said, I was listening
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to Jim Harold's camp fire and a caller detailed a
story involving a wegia board and the lava lamp. As
they made contact with a spirit, the lava in the
lamp form to face and morphed into other weird shapes.
He got me thinking, well, lava lamps run on electricity
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and have water, both vessels conducive to ghost hunting. I
would love to take a webcam of a lava lamp
in the middle of a room known for activity and
then see over the night if there was abnormal uh
movement of the wax slash lava and or a practical
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application in theory, would it be easier for a spirit
to manifest hot wax and water over trying to materialize
or manifest into thin air. I enjoy your show, Keep
up the good work. And then he goes on to
say he's going to be in Vegas soon if I
want to gamble and drink with him and his friends. Well,
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first off, Scott, thank you for that invitation. I appreciate
that immensely. But no, I, UM, I don't just randomly
meet up with people who contact me. You could be
a serial killer for all I know, and I'm not
gonna fall for that old trick. Um. I also don't
eat things that are are sent to me. Um for
people I don't know. But I'm sure you understand. I'm
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sure you're a great guy, Scott, seriously. UM, But it
is kind of weird how like, UM, people contact me
sometimes when they go I'm coming in Las Vegas, coming
to see you? Where Where where can I meet you? Like,
I don't care if you're my next door neighbor, you
get you can just be like I'm God, I don't
have an open storefront where you can just walk in. Um.
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But uh, again, thank you, Scott. That's nice of you.
Let's get back to your question. Uh, actually would be
much much more difficult to move wax slash lava. Um.
And you know, and that's not to say that there's
not something to be learned from that. But the problem is,
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I think whenever you're looking at well at wax in
this situation, or you're looking at like fire, like a
guy emailed me recently and said, oh, look at these
faces that are appearing in this fire. Uh, it's just
too difficult to separate that from paradoia. And paradoia is
that tendency for us to be able to uh interpret
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things the way we want this see them a confirmation bias.
It's like seeing the man in the moon. So um,
I'm not saying that like if if a lava lamp
were to create some ghoulish, amazing face, you could be like,
that's interesting, but still you can't prove anything that way,
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but it's fun to play with. UM. Let's see here.
This comes to me from Oh Crystal, she's in California,
and she said, I was fascinated to hear about the
experience in the letter from a prisoner. I had never
heard anyone else talk about that before. I had discovered
it a few years ago when becoming lucid in a dream,
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moved away from the dream and found myself in a
place that seemed like a movie set. I remember thinking,
what's this looks like a movie set at Universal Studios?
And then I woke up And through the years it's
happened many times. I call them dream sets. I've also
become lucid in them. Sometimes when my spirit team, which
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she says is like spirit guides and whatnot, have been
showing me something or visitations with past loved ones, she says, Uh,
they can freeze you so you can't move and come
pick you up like a mannequin and remove you. Um.
So she says, it sounds to me like the guy
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you who sent you the letter is putting himself in
a deep state of hypnosis and going into one of
these dream sets that has a lot going on that
is really quite interesting. So if you don't know what
she's talking about, um, you have to go back and
listen to one of my recent podcasts where a prisoner
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wrote me a letter and he had a message that
he wanted me to share with all of you, and
that message had to do with um, the state of
mind he was putting himself into, I kind of escape
from his prison cell. And uh, I'll let you know
I sent him well, I say, his representative a link
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to the podcast I did, and if I hear back,
I'll let you know what he had to say about that.
I guess one last thing I'll leave you with here
is well one of my mental manners. I was talking
to a guy a Parley recently and he was in Hawaii,
(47:30):
and he is a drone master. And I might have
mentioned this already, but if so, that's fine, I'll mention
it again. Uh, he is a drone master. And he
said that he was, uh, he was recently in Hawaii,
and that when he was in Hawaii, he saw guys
(47:52):
fishing with drones. And there are a lot of different
ways to do this. You can just send a drone
out there attached to your bait, and the drone has
a camera and you can send this thing as far
as your line will go, and then you see the
fish down there, and then the drone drops the bait
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and you're real woman. Now, there are people who are
doing things that are more well, well, things that are
outright illegal like dropping little bombs and stuff. I won't
get into that, but do you think that's cool to
have a drone that goes out there, sees the fish
and drops the bait no matter how far away they are?
Or is that unsportsmanlike? I don't know, mental manna, my friends,
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with you. All right, I think that's gonna do it
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Get ready to wed This is Strange Things when Warren.
I am Joshua PE Warren, and each week on this show,
I'll be bringing you brand new my blowing content, news exercises,
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and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more on this edition of the show Weird Ancient Giants. Now,
I have a reason for bringing up this topic. I'm
doing some research for a special trip I will be
taking soon and I will get to that later. I've
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been intimidated by this topic though for a long time,
because I know when when you think about giants, you
might say, yeah, okay, there used to be giants, big deal.
We had dinosaurs one time and then they died, what's
the big deal. But when you start digging into this
topic of ancient giants, you start entering this kind of
an almost moth man esque scenario where data appears and
(02:21):
then disappears, and archives go missing, and there are these
shadowy figures that are kind of on the outskirts, uh,
guarding information. And uh, Honestly, sometimes I I'll tell you
something about this. I found information that it's just vanished,
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and it's almost like a Mandela effect, you know how,
like you remember like I saw something, and then you
go back to find it again and it's like, oh,
this never existed. Uh. And I will warn you if
you start researching the Mandela effect and you really get
into it, you will go down a rabbit hole that
will probably eventually make Cuban sane. So I don't recommend
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that for the faint of heart. Speaking of which, I'll
just bring this up as a side note. I was
recently watching the nineteen forty one Universal movie The Wolfman
with Lawn Cheney Jr. And you know, here I am
with Lauren watching this whole movie, and I'm waiting to
see the famous scene where his face transforms into the Wolfman.
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And guess what, it never happens. It doesn't exist. His
face is never shown transforming into the Wolfman. Now spoiler alert,
at the end of the movie, you do see his
face transform from the Wolfman back into a man, but
I don't know how ill He's just I remember, you know,
(03:48):
his face turning into it. Now I know his face
turned into the Wolfman and some sequels, so maybe that's
where the confusion comes in. But I don't know. I
just figured that that was just another either example of
miss remembering things or the Mandela effect. Who knows, But
you're gonna see as I try to tackle this complex
subject of ancient giants, how that uh these sort of
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like bizarro uh mirages and shimmerings sort of sort of
occur around the edges of the history when you're trying
to figure out what the story is behind these beings
because people say, oh, we had these remains, these amazing remains,
and then you never get to see them anymore, you know, officially, scientifically,
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they say, historians have have proclaimed the tallest man who
ever lived was Robert Wadlow. And he was born in
Illinois in nineteen eighteen and died in nineteen forty at
the age of twenty two. He was eight ft eleven
point one inches tall, So it looks like for those
of you who are not in the US, that's about
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two point seven two meters And he weighed four hundred
and thirty nine pounds or one hundreds when he died.
He had this condition called hyper trophy of his pituitary gland,
so he had a bunch of h g H human
grow human growth hormone um. And they said that when
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he died it looked like he was still growing. If
he lived longer, he may have gotten bigger. And uh,
you know, as you go down like the timeline, they say,
when he was born, he was just a normal sized baby,
and then uh, at eleven months when he began to walk,
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he was three and a half feet tall. When uh,
let's see, he was nine years old, he was strong
enough to carry his father up the stairs to the
second floor while his father was sitting in a chair.
Mind you and uh, he gradual waited high school in uh,
(06:03):
let's see, at the age of seventeen. And he was
eight ft three when he graduated high school. So um,
very interesting guy. He was really strong his whole life.
He never was in a wheelchair, but he did use
braces for his legs eventually, and so apparently at some point, uh,
a brace kind of rubbed his leg the wrong way
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and it gave him an infection, and he had an
autoimmune disorder. In that infection you know, became a problem
where they gave him like a blood transfusion. But anyway,
that's how he died. Now, the tallest person alive today
is a man in Turkey and his name is Sultan
Cosen and he was born in nineteen eighty two and
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he is now thirty nine years old and he is
eight ft two point eight two inches, which is they
say two centimeters. Um again, I'm sorry, I'm a stupid American.
I don't know about these metric conversions. But uh, anyway,
so same kind of deal. He has like a tumor
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on his pituitary gland and he uses crutches to walk.
And it's funny because I saw a picture of him
the other day, and here he was just standing next
to a basketball hoop on the cork there, and he's
just dropping that basketball right in like it's nothing, you know,
but anyway, so that gives you an idea of what
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we know is possible. All right, So let me begin
by telling you that when I was a kid, and
I don't know how old I was, but I was
pretty little. Um, one of my relatives bought me this nice,
big hard copy, hard back copy of Readers Digest Mysteries
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of the Unexplained, which I think made a profound impact
on my life. And I've got it right here in
my hands now. And I came across this story that
just really caught my attention and fired up my imagination
when I was a kid. Let's see here it says, okay, no,
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basically what they do in this book as they go
back and they find old newspaper reports and and kind
of reproduced them, and it says here human skulls with
horns were found in a burial mound at Sayer, Bradford County,
Pennsylvania in the eighties. Except for the horny projections some
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two inches above the eyebrows. The men to whom these
skeletons belonged were anatomically normal, though at seven ft tall,
well above average height. It was estimated they were buried
about eighty The find was made by a reputable group
of antiquarians, including a Pennsylvania state historian and a dignitary
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of the Presbyterian Church. And they give the names of
all these kind of people. And this was published somewhere,
apparently at least um Well, there was a publication in
nineteen seventy three that that repeated that, okay, so that's weird.
I was like, what we found seven foot guys with horns?
(09:26):
This is not front page news. And then here's another
one from the same book. Seven skeletons were found in
a burial mound near Clearwater, Minnesota, in eighteen eighty eight.
They had double rows of teeth and the upper and
lower jaws, and had been buried in a sitting position
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facing the lake. The foreheads were unusually low and sloping,
with prominent brows. And then this goes on to say, uh.
In nineteen eleven, miners began to work the rich guano
deposits and love Lock Cave, twenty two miles southwest of
the Nevada town of love Luck. They had removed several
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carloads of guana when they came upon some Indian relics.
Soon afterward, a mummy was also found. Reportedly, it was
that of a six and a half foot tall person
with distinctly red hair. According to the legends of the
local Piute Indians, a tribe of red haired giants. The
Citacause were once the mortal enemies of the Indians in
the area, who had joined forces to drive the red
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heads out. John T. Reid of love Luck, mining engineer,
avidly interested in Indian lore, became convinced that the mummy
substantiated the Piute legend, and in the years that followed,
devoted himself to proving it. Included in his growing file
on red headed giants were descriptions of hair robes once
(10:54):
worn by a few Piutes. The hair was human and
of a reddish brown color. In the meantime, the discoveries
that love Luck had generated interest among archaeologists. Okay, I've
heard about this, uh, and you know what, without reading
all the rest of this, uh, the story that you
hear when you live here in Nevada, I live in
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Las Vegas, So that's about uh seven hour drive north
of me. I've not been there. I've I think George
Knapp did a nice report about it, and um, what
you what you find is that people said that like
a lot of these were giants. Uh. They would have
double rows of teeth. Sometimes they had six fingers and
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six toes, and they're cannibals. They were cannibals. And at
love Lack Cave, they said that they would dig a hole,
uh like a deadfall, I guess, and put sharp sticks
in there, and when a human would fall in, well,
the giants would go over there and they pull them
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out of that hole, and then they throw them in
a satch and take them back to the cave and
eat them. And finally the Native Americans they went over
there and lit fires and burned out that cave and
burned them all to death. Let me tell you something,
This story is gonna get weirder and weirder and weirder.
But it's time for a break. And uh, I want
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you to know, like I've told you before, I'm probably
going to take a break for the month of December two.
I'm probably just gonna chill out and unpacks a lot
of stuff in my new house because you know, I
have a lot of work to do, and I have
a whole new company that I'm gonna be opening up
next year that I've been working on four years. But
even though I may not be uh doing a podcast
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In the Bible, let's see here Genesis six, chapter six,
verse four, it says there were giants in the earth
and those days and also after that when the sons
of God came in unto the daughters of men and
they bear children to them, the same became mighty men,
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which were men of old, men of renown. Um. You know,
there are so many different translations of the Bible, and uh,
we're talking about the Nephelim here fallen angels as they
are sometimes called. There's more about this in the Book
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of Enoch um angels who fell from heaven and apparent
they were really really big. But you know, here's the
thing about the Book of Enoch right here, I'm looking
at the Encyclopedia article here, and it says when it
comes to his books, none of the three Books of
Enoch are considered canonical scripture by the majority of Jewish
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or Christian bodies. So I don't know, what what what
do you make of that? Ancient ancient documents like that
are just almost impossible to truly understand. You just have
to piece things together and have some faith in what
you what you feel is right, what you feel you
should believe. But the Bible does, of course talk about Goliath,
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and that's uh. One of the most memorable stories from
the Bible was when David defeated Goliath, And let's go
back and look at that story. Uh. He has described
in most translations as being four cubits and a span
or x cubits in a span. And so n C
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Register here, which is the National Catholic Register uh n
C register dot com has an article about this. And
they said, uh, they took that this passage, and they
sent it to all kinds of different experts, and so
one expert said that means he was at least nine
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ft nine inches tall. And then there was another expert
that said, uh, if a cubit the link from the
elbow to the tip of the middle fingers about one
and a half feet, and the span the distance from
the thumb to the middle or little finger, uh, stretched apart,
would be half a cubit and six cubits in a span,
what equal about nine ft nine inches and and and so.
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But there are other people who think he may have
been even taller. So look what they basically arrived at
is that everybody says that according to the Bible, this
guy was eight ft five to ten ft six somewhere
in that rank. A big man by anybody's standards. And
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that's interesting, really when you think about it. Because you
know how it is when you go into like some
old home that was built in the eighteen hundreds or
even the seventeen hundreds, and everything looks so small, and
you think, man, people were little back then, and you
look at their beds and stuff and they seem very little.
On the other hand, uh, resources to build a home.
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We're also more limited back then. So it's hard to
say how you engauge what a quote unquote giant is right,
but we do have these references. They go back that far.
And when I was doing all my research, gosh, I
don't even know how long ago, probably like almost twenty
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years ago into um to a lot of giant stories
like the ones in my neck of the woods, Judicolor
the slant eyed Giant and Judaicolor Rock is in Colloween,
North Carolina, which is near western North Carolina. It's it's
in western North Carolina. It's near Asheville, and there's a
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rock with all these weird carvings, these petroc glyphs on it.
And I was doing a lot of research on that,
and everybody said the legend was that there was this big,
slant eyed giant with six fingers and he dominated that
area and that was his hunting territory, and that this
stone was his marker, you know. Um And again it
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goes back to this idea of a giant of old,
often with double rows of teeth, sometimes horns, red hair,
six fingers, six toes. Um. Nobody knows exactly what the
markings on Judicolor rock me and I have I guess,
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like just one possible theory that I've sort of tossed
out there about what the markings may mean. If you
go to Juda coolor rock dot com, you can watch
a little video that I did about this not too
long ago. J U d A c U l l
A j U d A c U l l A
judah color rock dot com. You can watch this video
(19:27):
and see um. But I'm bringing this up because I
started looking into Judaicolor Rock and the stories about these giants,
and then I ended up eventually getting a job for
a job with the Travel channel. I was on every
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episode of a TV series called Paranormal Paparazzi, where I
traveled all over the country and good reports at weird places.
And one of the places I went was in Georgia,
which of course is right next to North Carolina. To
a place called track Rock, and track Rock is located
there in uh, let's see the Brass Town Ranger District
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of the Chattahoochee National Forest in Georgia. And track Rock
has all these weird petrick lifts on it. And I
went to track Rock and I said, you know what,
I don't know who made the marks on Judah Color Rock,
and I don't know who made the rocks who made
the markings on a track rock, But I think the
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same group of people made these markings on these rocks.
They looked that similar to me. Um. But when I
started trying to figure out more about, you know, like
what was happening there, UM, what I found was that, uh,
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there there's no good consensus. And I believe eve there
there's a fellow named Scott Walter out there who used
to have a show on the History Channel, and uh, honestly,
I I probably should have prepared better, but I don't
remember what that show was called. UM. But he he
went to some of these exotic kind of places and
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he looked into these mysteries and he made a pretty
good case for the fact that, um, the Mayans from
Central America may have actually been traveling as far north
as Georgia and possibly even North Carolina. And of course
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we can't officially prove that, but I mean, how would
you mean what? We didn't have cameras back then, no satellites,
I mean, um, and the Mayans not only were some
of their markings similar to some of the things that
we've seen on these rocks, but also um, best I
recall there was some clay they discovered from Georgia that
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was in some of the dies that these Mayans were
using in Central America. So it would not surprise me
if there were Mayans traveling that far north back in
those days. And and the Mayans they look scary, they
look monstrous sometimes, you know, Um, they would always well,
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they would paint themselves. Sometimes they would grind their teeth
to points. And scary looking people. But they were short.
Turns out, did you know that? I always thought that
Mayans were probably tall, just because they look so spooky,
And no, the Mayans were short. Some people considered the
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Mayans to be pygmies of the ancient world. As a
matter of fact, Uh, the tallest people thousands of years
ago were Europeans who are around like Uh, I don't
know the Netherlands in that kind of area, and they
are not like six ft tall, maybe six to even
thousands of years ago, but the Mayans were like five
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ft five too, So you can almost say, all right,
the Mayans came up, and the Mayans left a lot
of these weird artifacts and carvings and created all these
scary stories, and because they would decorate themselves in all
these bizarre ways, but it doesn't explain the giant part.
That's still a mystery. So as I was looking into
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all this, I came across this story about this place
in North Carolina. Now that's where I'm from. And let's see,
it's called Garysburg. And I'm looking up right now, how
far that Garysburg is from Asheville, where I lived at
the time. I know it's near Roanoke Rapids, so if
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you drive from Asheville to Garysburg, it takes you about
five hours. So when I was doing a lot of
my research, I got together with my buddy Casey Fox,
and uh, I've known him since literally we were like,
let's see, I think I met him in the first grade, right,
And Casey and I we decided to take a trip
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to Garysburg. And that is because that I came across
this really weird article saying that, uh, in the eighteen
let's see, I think it was something sometime in the
eighteen hundreds. There were some railroad workers that were near Gearysburg,
North Carolina, and they uncovered a chamber with giant human
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skeletons and their teeth were supposedly ground to sharp points.
But there was no follow up on what happened to
the bodies. So Casey and I we drove there and
I interviewed everybody in this little town, and I went
to the library. When we come back, I'm gonna tell
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you what happened. I'm also going to tell you how
you can earn a reward. There is some missing information
that I want. Maybe some sleuth out there we'll be
able to finally get it, and then I'll tell you
what my special trip is all about. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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You're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio
and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. I'll be
right back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange
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Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
and parn Normal Podcast Network. I am your host Joshua
pe Warren and this is the show where the unusual
becomes usual. I found this article somewhere online many years ago,
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and uh it's it talked about these giant skeletons that
were found, um somewhere in Gary'sburg, North Carolina. So, and
I've talked about this before to some extent on this podcast.
I went there with Casey, and Uh, the weirdest thing
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is that there was this lady there, Aaron. I think
her name was Stevens and I anyway, I met with
her and her husband had died uh years before that,
but he was a big collector of fossils in the
area and he had built this whole like what do
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you call it. He felt like a fossil covered building
on his property. And his wife, his widow, took me
in Casey into this. It's it's almost like a roadside
attraction kind of thing, or at least it was back then.
And he had discovered gigantic artifacts from the area. I
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mean like acts, blades and things like that. I can't
remember everything. It would been a way too big for
an average person to wield. And I photographed all of that,
and then, like I said, we went to the library
and I I couldn't find a kind of follow up
information in the library. So after that, I wrote an
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article about my trip to Garysburg for Fate Magazine and
it was published, and I have a copy of it
in my storage unit and one I have multiple storage units.
You probably know this there. I blow a lot of
money every year, every month on just storage units. I
(28:27):
gotta consolidate, and like that's what I'm always trying to
sell stuff. It's like I have too much stuff I have.
I have one of my storage units in Asheville has
got some of my old articles, and I'm sure that
that article is there. I don't know where it is.
It's buried somewhere deep in the raiders of the Lost
Arc warehouse. But since then I have gone back and
(28:52):
I have tried to find that article online. Cannot find it.
The one about the railroad workers finding the giant skeletons
in Garysburg, North Carolina. I have tried to find the
article that I wrote for Faith Magazine, and I cannot
find it here online. I do not have a physical
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copy of it. I contacted Phyllis Galdy, who owns Fate Magazine,
and said, can you please locate this article that I wrote,
and she can't find it. I contacted Vance Pollock, Sherlock Pollock,
(29:34):
who also has done work with Faith Magazine, and I said,
can you find this article? And he couldn't find it either.
I'm telling you I wrote I went out there. Okay,
let me put it this way. I saw this weird
story about these giant romains Casey, and I went out there.
I studied everything, I took pictures, I wrote an article
(29:57):
about it. It was published nationally, and now it's like
none of it exists anymore. I can't find the original
article that I read the newspaper report, and I can't
find the article that I published from in Fate magazine.
So I'll tell you what I'm I'm gonna. I'm I'm
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offering a reward right now. If you are the first
person who contects me, and you have either of those things,
you can have the original a newspaper article from Garysburg.
Uh yeah, Garysburg, North Carolina, and it might have been
Roanoke Rapids. Let's see, I'm looking at what I do
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have here. Um oops, I have too many windows open here. Uh. Well, look,
if you have got the the original article from Garysburg,
North Carolina, or you have the article about my trip
there that I wrote for Fake magazine. Uh, and you
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have a PayPal account, I will send you one hundred
dollars as a reward. I say PayPal because that just
makes it easy for everybody. And people listen to this
show all over the world, and uh, I don't have
to deal with like the currency exchange and all that.
So there's you know, that's that's a challenge for you, right.
The first person who has either one of those things
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gets a hundred dollar reward. And I look at this
type of scenario and I think this is another example
of this kind of almost a mothman esque or Mandela
affect element to these stories surrounding these ancient giants and
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and and the weirdness about who they were and what
they were and where are they now. And I've even
been contacted by a number of people in my life
who have told me that there is a whole unit
of individuals out there that are almost like the men
in Black, and their sole mission is to go out
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and to cover up evidence of these giant beings, perhaps
the Nephelim or something like that. That's their their their
whole purpose. Maybe they're like the M I B s
from the Peara temporal loop hypothesis that I wrote about
in the Secret Wisdom of Cucko khan Um. Or it
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could be like somebody told me, oh, you don't know,
the Smithsonian has got their own secret service, and they
go out and they swoop in when a truly amazing
find is made, and they take that find and they
put it in a special warehouse and they go to
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their biggest donors because apparently, uh, you know, the word
on the street is the Smithsonian has got huge, huge,
super duper rich people that give money every year, and
those people, according to the conspiracy theory, get the first pick.
So if you find something that's amazing, like let's say
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you found a dead bigfoot tomorrow before you put it
out there on public display and you never get a
piece of that, you might take it to this weird
rich dude and uh say, hey, if you would like this,
you know, let's let's let's talk. Let's talk. So there
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may be this whole underground of shady, bizarre, super rich
people who have got the ultimate man cave. You know,
it's like you you walk in there, or woman cave.
I mean I guess it can go either way. You
know what I'm saying. You make friends with them and
(33:57):
they're like, hey, let me share you something. Because I
have been to pe Bol's houses before who have been like,
all right, I like you, let me show you something.
And they take you through like a secret passageway and
they share you and you go down there and here's
here's a stuff tasquatch, here's a here's a nessy, here's
a dead alien. Now I haven't seen those things, but
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I'm just saying that's the conspiracy theory that that might
exist out there. So maybe that's another possible explanation for
all this. But anyway, the reward is on the table.
So let's take all that and funnel it into the
trip that I'm about to take. So here in Nevada,
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of course, like I told you, we have this place
called the love Lock Cave. Well it turns out, um
not far from there in Fallon, Nevada is a place
called the Spirit Cave, and that is where the oldest
human mummy ever sound in North America was discovered. Think
(35:03):
about that, the old I bet almost none of you
probably knew that that the the oldest human mummy found
in North America was found and Spirit Cave in Foulon, Nevada.
And this mummy. Get a load of this. Are you ready?
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This mummy was ninety four hundred years old. Yeah, nine thousand,
four hundred years old. That's crazy, isn't it. Like you know,
people talk about Jesus like Jesus lived two thousand years ago,
and that seems like an unimaginable amount of time. Hundred
(35:46):
years ago. So that Spirit Cave. Well, guess what you know?
I own this uh tour here in Nevada. It's called
the Haunted Boulder City Ghost and UFO Tour, and it's
it takes place in Boulder City, Nevada, which is about
a thirty minute drive outside of Las Vegas. And uh,
(36:07):
one of my guides as a man named Alan, who
I guess he's in his sixties, and uh he's lived
Boulder City for thirty years. And he said, hey, have
you ever been to Spirit Mountain? I said, what he said? Yeah,
Spirit Mountain? So like an hour from Boulder City there
is this mountain called Spirit Mountain, which according to the
(36:30):
Native Americans in that area, I mean, like you know,
the Mojave Indians of the yumas the human people. This
is the most sacred place in the universe. They say,
this place called Spirit Mountain, which kind of is a
nondescript mountain out there in the middle of the desert.
They say, this is a portal. This is the place
(36:54):
from which all life emerged and two which all life
will return. This is the center of all consciousness and
mystery and excitement. And there's one spot there in particular
(37:16):
that's supposed to be the quintessential spot. When we come
back from this break, I'm gonna tell you about my
upcoming trip to Spirit Mountain, and then I want to
read some emails. I need to get back some emails.
One guy said that he has discovered a possible new
ghost hunting tool that could be a game changer. I'm
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Joshua Pete Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the
I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a am para
normal podcast network, and I'll be right back. Welcome back
(38:25):
to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things
on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am
paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren.
I'm excited. I want to see if somebody can go
out there and get these rewards. Find that old article
(38:48):
about the bodies the giant skeletons from Garysburg, or even
my article from Fate magazine. But remember only the first
person gets the reward. Okay, if a hundred of you
contact me, the first person gets it. So here I am.
I'm about to make this trip to Spirit Mountain, of course.
(39:14):
And so Lauren she gets online and we're actually working
on a UM on a project that has to do
with like old fossils and stuff. You'll learn more about
that in the near future. And she just started typing in,
you know, information about fossils and boom, you know, Spirit
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Mountain here in Nevada, an hour from Boulder City where
I have my tour. It popped up and so apparently
ancient human remains have been found around there as well.
And I just can't wait to make this trip two
Spirit Mountain. And of course I'll be going with with
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Lauren and Alan, and I think Jason Saracchi is gonna
come as well, and we're gonna shoot some footage. And boy,
I mean, like this is what keeps me going, going
out there, and and like what is this gonna be like,
this is the place where all of these Native Americans
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say that life originated. It's the the the the most sacred,
the holiest place, and there is a holiest of holies
at this spot. I'm not gonna tell you right now
where it is, but Alan knows where it is. So
I'm gonna go to the holiest of holies and then
I'm gonna bring back this free report to you. That's
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what I do. That's part of my life here. It's
just going out there and experiencing the mysterious. And you
know what, this is a free show, and I know
that most of you listening will never have that opportunity.
That's why I do this, so I can bring this
back to you. But if you like this show and
you want to keep listening to it for free, do
(41:04):
me a favor. Okay, the holidays are upon us by
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At Joshua pe Warren dot com. Go there and click
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You can buy things that are like even nine dollars.
Just go buy one thing and um and keep this going,
(41:27):
keep it free, keep it going. Forever. So I cannot
wait to tell you about what I discover when I
go to Spirit Mountain, and that will be coming to
you very soon. And given the fact that the oldest
mummy in North America was discovered like seven hours from there,
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there's no telling. All right, let me squeeze in some
emails here. I have just been going on and on.
It's so hard to fit all this like giant lore
into some kind of special podcast because there's just too
much of it. This comes from Scott H. Scott's c
He says Morning Joshua Um. He said, I was listening
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to Jim Harold's camp fire and a caller detailed a
story involving a wegia board and the lava lamp. As
they made contact with a spirit, the lava in the
lamp form to face and morphed into other weird shapes.
He got me thinking, well, lava lamps run on electricity
(42:32):
and have water, both vessels conducive to ghost hunting. I
would love to take a webcam of a lava lamp
in the middle of a room known for activity and
then see over the night if there was abnormal uh
movement of the wax slash lava and or a practical
(42:55):
application in theory, would it be easier for a spirit
to manifest hot wax and water over trying to materialize
or manifest into thin air. I enjoy your show, Keep
up the good work. And then he goes on to
say he's going to be in Vegas soon if I
want to gamble and drink with him and his friends. Well,
(43:21):
first off, Scott, thank you for that invitation. I appreciate
that immensely. But no, I, UM, I don't just randomly
meet up with people who contact me. You could be
a serial killer for all I know, and I'm not
gonna fall for that old trick. Um. I also don't
eat things that are are sent to me. Um for
people I don't know. But I'm sure you understand. I'm
(43:43):
sure you're a great guy, Scott, seriously. UM, But it
is kind of weird how like, UM, people contact me
sometimes when they go I'm coming in Las Vegas, coming
to see you? Where Where where can I meet you? Like,
I don't care if you're my next door neighbor, you
get you can just be like I'm God, I don't
have an open storefront where you can just walk in. Um.
(44:09):
But uh, again, thank you, Scott. That's nice of you.
Let's get back to your question. Uh, actually would be
much much more difficult to move wax slash lava. Um.
And you know, and that's not to say that there's
not something to be learned from that. But the problem is,
(44:34):
I think whenever you're looking at well at wax in
this situation, or you're looking at like fire, like a
guy emailed me recently and said, oh, look at these
faces that are appearing in this fire. Uh, it's just
too difficult to separate that from paradoia. And paradoia is
that tendency for us to be able to uh interpret
(44:58):
things the way we want this see them a confirmation bias.
It's like seeing the man in the moon. So um,
I'm not saying that like if if a lava lamp
were to create some ghoulish, amazing face, you could be like,
that's interesting, but still you can't prove anything that way,
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but it's fun to play with. UM. Let's see here.
This comes to me from Oh Crystal, she's in California,
and she said, I was fascinated to hear about the
experience in the letter from a prisoner. I had never
heard anyone else talk about that before. I had discovered
it a few years ago when becoming lucid in a dream,
(45:43):
moved away from the dream and found myself in a
place that seemed like a movie set. I remember thinking,
what's this looks like a movie set at Universal Studios?
And then I woke up And through the years it's
happened many times. I call them dream sets. I've also
become lucid in them. Sometimes when my spirit team, which
(46:06):
she says is like spirit guides and whatnot, have been
showing me something or visitations with past loved ones, she says, Uh,
they can freeze you so you can't move and come
pick you up like a mannequin and remove you. Um.
So she says, it sounds to me like the guy
(46:27):
you who sent you the letter is putting himself in
a deep state of hypnosis and going into one of
these dream sets that has a lot going on that
is really quite interesting. So if you don't know what
she's talking about, um, you have to go back and
listen to one of my recent podcasts where a prisoner
(46:49):
wrote me a letter and he had a message that
he wanted me to share with all of you, and
that message had to do with um, the state of
mind he was putting himself into, I kind of escape
from his prison cell. And uh, I'll let you know
I sent him well, I say, his representative a link
(47:10):
to the podcast I did, and if I hear back,
I'll let you know what he had to say about that.
I guess one last thing I'll leave you with here
is well one of my mental manners. I was talking
to a guy a Parley recently and he was in Hawaii,
(47:30):
and he is a drone master. And I might have
mentioned this already, but if so, that's fine, I'll mention
it again. Uh, he is a drone master. And he
said that he was, uh, he was recently in Hawaii,
and that when he was in Hawaii, he saw guys
(47:52):
fishing with drones. And there are a lot of different
ways to do this. You can just send a drone
out there attached to your bait, and the drone has
a camera and you can send this thing as far
as your line will go, and then you see the
fish down there, and then the drone drops the bait
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and you're real woman. Now, there are people who are
doing things that are more well, well, things that are
outright illegal like dropping little bombs and stuff. I won't
get into that, but do you think that's cool to
have a drone that goes out there, sees the fish
and drops the bait no matter how far away they are?
Or is that unsportsmanlike? I don't know, mental manna, my friends,
(48:39):
weird weird stuff I pick up on that I share
with you. All right, I think that's gonna do it
for this weird show. So now let us kick back, relax,
and let's just decompress and listen together. Shall we to
the good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition of
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