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you can do at home, and a lot more on
this edition of the program. An amazing new ghost photo
has been captured, and I am breaking it right here
on this podcast exclusively. I've been doing a lot of
that lately. I recently broke some amazing UFO footage and
now I have this picture I'm going to tell you
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all about plus plus we're gonna get into who is
the Devil. That's quite a topic, and I want to
warn you that I will be playing some audio a
little bit later that really freaks some people out. So
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I know. I talk a lot about inspirational, warm and
fuzzy stuff, but this is this is gonna be a
creepy one for some of you that said, let's jump
into this new ghost photo. Of course, I live here
in Las Vegas, Nevada, and I produced the Vegas Ghosts
and UFO show that we do almost every weekend at
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the Millennium Fandom Bar in Downtown Vegas, very popular cosplay bar.
The show was hosted by Nick Weird. It's a big
party all the time, but especially on the weekends there
and the manager is a lady named Linda Beamonte who
is also a psychic medium. In fact, if you remember
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the podcast that I did where I went to the
Haunted Pioneer Saloon and Good Springs, Nevada, I brought a
crew with me and Linda was part of that crew.
So Linda contacted me recently and she said, there is
this woman who lives in Vegas. She came into the bar.
Her name is Teresa Marie, and she took a photograph
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that I really think you ought to see, and I said, okay,
I'll be happy to take a look at it. Linda
sent me a photo that amazingly, I mean, it just
immediately made me do like a double take, like what, Okay,
here's the situation. Theresa Marie she studied photography professionally for
five years. She now works in the legal field. And
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on December twenty nine of two thousand and fifteen, she
was at the Church of Notre Dame in Paris, France,
late at night, about ten forty two pm local time.
And of course, as you know, the Church of Notre
Dame is not even accessible right now because it caught
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on fire in twenty nineteen. So here she was three
years more or less before that, and she took a photo.
She was by herself. She was like on a backpacking
kind of trips. She set up a tripod. She had
a professional camera, and she took a photo of herself
standing there in front of the church of Notre Dame,
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and she gave it just a little bit of a
long exposure, and I swear to you, it looks like
there are two apparitional nuns, like very solid looking nuns
standing behind her, wearing hoods. And now one thing that
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I immediately was concerned about was that it looked like,
I mean, there was a light in the background, and
anytime somebody takes a picture and it sort of pointed
toward the light, that bothers me some because I think, well,
could this light have just created this illusion somehow? But
I contacted her. I got her on the phone, and
let me tell you, she had control photos. She she
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told me what kind of camera she used. It was
a Canon camera, she gave me. I was actually can
an e O S T three rebel never been dropped
her damnage. She told me what kind of lens it was.
The aperture I get, the exposure time, the focal length,
the iOS, all this stuff. I mean, she could not
have done a better job documenting what what is in
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this image. And I sent that to my A team,
I sent it to Mobius, I sent it to a
professional photographer, c Eric Scott. I sent it to historian
Vance Paul. None of them could explain these figures that
look so solid in this image. And so I think
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she has a picture of what appears to be a
couple of of ghostly women standing behind her. All right,
And so before I give you more details about our analysis,
I decided to bring her onto the show and let
her tell you at her own words about her experience.
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It helps lend credibility to hear from the photographer about
how she got this picture. And then after this I'll
come back and I'll give you more information about our analysis.
If you want to see this picture, though, for now
while you're listening to her, go to Joshua P. Warren
dot com. Click the link to the Curiosity Shop and
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if you scroll down, you'll just see her name somewhere
near the bottom of the page, Theresa Marie. And if
you click her name, then that will take you to
a page with all the enhancements. So I got her
on the phone and I just said, please tell us
the story Teresa of how you captured this photo, and
here's what she said. UM. So I was in France
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in I was back back in solo, UM, trying to
capture all those little things here and there that everyone
goes to as a tourist, as well as exploring other places.
I believe that was my last night in France. I
was getting ready to head back to the States. UM,
and I was like, let me go snag a photo
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at Notre Dame. Go explore UM. And I set up
my tripod UM, you know, just with my DSLR. I
took photography in school and wanted to get a really
good long exposure UM in front of it, kind of
in an area that it wasn't too crowded, brave up
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front and get the whole building. UM. And I took
one or two shots before UM, just to get where
I really wanted to snap that photo. UM, and then
one after it. And I was looking through in my
preview pain between the photos and saw something. UM. I
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zoomed in, packed up and took a picture of it
on my iPhone actually and sent it to my little
brother in the States and was like, if anything happens,
I'm going to this bar, just letting you know where
to look for me. UM. And it was funny because
you could see it in the preview pain it wasn't
like I downloaded it onto my computer and looked and
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zoomed in later it was very noticeable. UM in my cannon. UM.
And I actually ended up not touring or going any
closer to Notre Dame. I was kind of freaked out
and packed up and headed away. And it's so great
that you were able to also capture those control photos
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that we were able to use for analysis. And UM,
so now have you captured something ghostly like that before? No? UM.
I and I looked through all of my photos. I've
been all over I went to on that trip. I
went to um Bath Bruge, gent Um it's a Brugi
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and gent In, Belgium. Bath in England, um Stonehenge. I
went to UM the mont St. Michelle Abbey, UM and
none of my photos had anything else. UM. I've been
all over the US, UM taking photos. I've you know,
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been in cemetery's never really thought about it, looked at
photos in the past, nothing like that. UM. I've experienced
and seen ghosts UM as a kid. You know, everyone
discredits if you've actually seen them that you don't talk
about it much unless you find that little niche of
people who totally, you know, believe you would agree with you.
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So when I caught this photo, it was kind of
like I actually have not you know, it's proof, it's
you can say you see it all day and whether
people believe it or not that the photo is real. UM,
what I experienced I knew was real. So for those
who have not had a chance to look at the
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photo yet, UM, please describe what you see when you
look at that image. UM. So the full image is
me standing in front of UM Notre Dame, and I
believe it's over my right shoulder. UM, there's uh. To
the right of me, there's a lamp post, two women,
and then up above my head, UM appears to be
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too floating nuns. UM. One of them. She has a
very um like it's very pronounced like the definition to
her face. UM, she's you know, more of an elongated face,
very very red lips. UM with I always thought it
was a habit. I didn't know what else to call it.
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That's what I grew up knowing them as. UM. But
I believe you joshuad that there was another name and
I don't remember it, but Um. And then there's another
woman slightly above her to the right of that UM
and the photo would be probably looking at it at
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the left. I'm remembering actually standing there and taking it Um.
And I want to say, she looks like she has
more of a round face with glasses. Even so, it's
very like to me, they were very noticeable immediately with
facial features. All Right, we have to take a break,
and when we come back, I'll tell you more about
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The Church of Notre Dame, well, they started building it
in the year eleven sixty three. Notre Dame de Paris
means our Lady of Paris. And I have been a
professional paranormal investigator for around thirty years. And I don't
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bring people on this show to talk about having captured
a paranormal image unless I think it's it's really worthy
because as I have talked to that person, I have
gotten thorough data from that person, a lot of details,
and had it analyzed by a great team of people.
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And I want to really think Teresa Marie for sending
this to me, and actually we'll Lynda be a monte
sent it. But I want to thank Teresa for talking
to me and coming on the show and sharing this
with us and letting us post it for you. And
when you look at this picture, and again if you
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want to see it, go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com,
click the link to the Curiosity Shop scrolled down and
just click the link to her name, Teresa Marie. Here
she is standing outside of the church at night, and
there are there are a couple of normal women like
tourists in the background who are staring up at the church.
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But looking over Teresa Marie's shoulder are these two figures
that immediately appear like nuns, but you can only see
them from sort of the waist up, or primarily see
them from the waist up. They have these kind of
white hoods, and their faces are so distinct and so
solid that when you look at the close up, I mean,
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it's hard to deny that these are some types of apparitions.
And again I hated that there was a light in
the background, and it was and this is a slightly
long exposure because I know that can create some very
weird optical illusions, But in this case, I think that
we can't just explain this as as a lens flare
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or an optical illusion like that. It's too distinct. And
so here here's what happened. Like again, I sent it
to a bunch of experts. Mobia said he couldn't explain
what this was. But you know, see Eric Scott, he
is again a professional filmmaker and professional photographer, and he said,
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this is very interesting photo. He said, I've been trying
to come up with any and all practical reasons that
would have caused this to happen. I've even researched this
particular camera model to see if it had any known
long exposure issues. And he goes on to get very
technical here, and uh, he said, you know, I've I've
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passed this through a variety of filters, and he ends
up saying that, um, he he put it through an
embossing filter, which sort of makes the physical details pop.
And he said, in the embossed crop, you can even
see that the heads have a three dimensional appearance that
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they don't seem flat. They seem to pop out like
people sort of you know, vaguely transparent people standing there.
Eric summarizes by saying, anyway, I cannot come up with
any reasonable explanation that would cause this exact thing to happen.
Now vance my historian, whom I call Sherlock Pollock, Fancy Pollock.
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He he was looking at this in historical context and
he was really impressed. And he said, when you when
you look at the type of of hoods or head
garments that these ladies appear to be wearing, he says,
I believe this looks like a common camelet hood that's
spelled c a m l et a camelet hood from
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the late seventeenth century. We would identify them with the
era of the witch trials. He said the hood was
often worn loose, that is, untied, and then he also
included a picture of women wearing that and he said,
I have not seen so far any portrayals of nuns
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of Notre Dame wearing anything quite like this on their heads.
But he says, it's a fascinating image. So that makes
it even more interesting in a way that, uh, we
would associate that with something like which trial. So look,
all I can tell you is we've done everything that
we can do. She has control photos that do that.
We're taken the same way. It's not in the control photos.
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We have all the technical information we have her explanation,
we have our expert analysis, and I just I really
cannot explain what we have here. So I hope that
you'll go take a look at it. And when you
consider that this was taken outside of a church, though,
it makes it especially interesting. I find churches fascinating and
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inspirational and creepy all at once, because churches are kind
of the front lines for what we think of as
a great spiritual battle between good and evil, and sometimes
evil is able to take hold within the church, and
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sometimes the opposite can happen, and good things can happen
in places that we traditionally associate with evil. It's a
big battle that's always going back and forth. And it
may be that these women are some kinds of protective
spirits that were there around the church, or maybe they
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knew what was coming up, uh, that there was gonna
be this tragic fire in a few years. I mean, again,
all we can do is speculate. But when I start
looking at the possibility that we have spirits here that
are are holy and protective and maybe guardians of this place,
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well that I can't help. But thinking about the possibility
of really scary negative well, demonic type things. And look,
in all my years of doing paranormal research, I've never
seen a little a little devil with horns running around
that looks like a little gargle. I know people see
creatures like that. I've never seen like a cartoon caricature
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of a demon. But you know, I did interview x
or suspiciou Brian we let Uh not too long ago
on this show. If you haven't listened to that, you
might want to go back and listen to it. Fascinating interview.
He has a very nuanced way of viewing what say
possession is, and he has he says he has seen
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people levitate, and he has seen immortal strength, and he's
seen people's faces change, and he's seen this kind of stuff.
And I think he is inclined to believe that that
humans are the conduit for evil. That we have maybe
good and evil within us, but the evil is powerless
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without humans there. And when you think about this idea
of like demonic possession, and we try to wrap our
our minds around what that that really means and what
that's about. I think of some of the audio clips
that I've heard that have been presented to me as
authentic audio of people who are possessed and who are
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undergoing an exorcism. And one of the creepiest pieces of
audio that I have is from a supposed Russian exorcism
that took place many years ago. And here's the most
bizarre thing. I decided to play this for you guys.
And you know I I've done professional radio and audio
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work for for decades, and I went to capture this audio,
just like I've done a million times with anything else.
And it took me an hour. I couldn't capture the audio.
Every time I would try to capture it would play
on my computer. But every time I try to capture it,
I would get error messages. And I would put it
into programs to convert it, and I would get an
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error message. And I thought, maybe I'm not even supposed
to play this. So finally I said, you know what
I'm gonna do it. I I just took out my
cell phone and I played it on my computer and
I recorded on my cell phone, and then I just
emailed it to myself. So that's what you're literally about
to hear. This is a little over a minute, and
it's gonna be a hard minute to listen to for
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many of you, but I want you to listen to
this and think about whether or not you believe this.
Sounds like there's something actually supernatural happening to this this
Russian woman as she is undergoing an exorcism. Okay, are
you ready? I'll give you a countdown just in case
you don't want to hear this. Now this is creepy stuff.
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Three two one. Now what do you think has caused
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such a reaction in that woman? Could it be? Say?
All right, we're gonna take a break. When we come back,
I'm going to play some more downright scary audio for you,
and then we're going to dig into that question of
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who is the devil? I mean, if you were to
come into contact with this figure called the devil, what
would that really be like? What would that really mean?
Maybe it's a little more nuanced than you would expect.
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If indeed the minions, the minions of the devil, are
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these demons? Can they actually possess somebody? Have you heard
of the movie surely you have, The Exorcism of Emily Rose.
It came out in two thousand five that was based
on the case of a real girl in Germany named
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Analysee Michelle, and she was born in September of nineteen
fifty two, and she died July of nineteen seventy six.
She was only twenty three years old. She died in
the midst of an exorcism. And whatso outstanding is they
say that she underwent sixty seven Catholic exorcism rights during
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the year before her death, and ultimately when she died,
doctors said that they thought she died of malnutrition, and
because of that, her parents and the priest were convicted
of negligent homicide. She was diagnosed with epileptic psychosis and
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had a history of psychiatric treatment. So this is a
case where we have a real young woman here who
ended up actually dying in the midst of of exorcisms
and a legal conviction. Also, they say the award winning
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two thousand six film Requiem was based upon her case.
And so there is what I understand to be actual
audio from one of her exorcisms. And I figure, you
know what, since this is such an outstanding case, I
may as well play just one minute or so of
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this for you so you can see how she compares
to what you just heard from the Russian woman who
was undergoing an exorcism. And I I don't speak German,
well enough to actually understand what she is saying in
this clip. But once again, I'm sure that some of
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you will find this very disturbing. So we'll give it
a little over a minute, and here is my countdown
for you of her being uh exercised, three two, one,
Thank you, son shied loved on its on it shine,
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so it's happy. Don't shine be chazy Thazy is see
to like? Sousie has Wow who see to like? So
Housie has loved all right, So that is all the
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exorcism audio I'm gonna play for you, So don't worry
about that. If that's too heavy for you, I get it.
And as a matter of fact, I have attended a
couple of exorcisms myself, and uh these were many years ago,
but I saw people make the same kinds of of sounds,
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and their faces contort and their backs arch, and they
sort of almost seemed to shape shift into some other
type of of creature. And now, I've never seen anything
that could not just be a hell of an acting job,
if you want to get right down to it. I've
never seen somebody levitate or create some you know, poltergeist
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phenomenon in the room where I've never seen that. But
you know, there is something to this phenomenon, and we
have to ask ourselves, all right, well, what's the source
of all this? Who is this character called the devil
that is supposedly behind all this? And if you just
go and you basically start reading about the devil, just
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to the Wikipedia page, it says the devil is the
personification of evil as it is conceived in various cultures
and various traditions. It is seen as the objectification of
a hostile and destructive force. It's important to understand that
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the devil is a figure in many any different religions
all around the world, and of course many we have
many different names Satan, Lucifer, Bills above, Mephisophlees, etcetera. But
as far as the meaning of the word in modern English,
the word devil comes from the Middle English word de
vel and, which comes from the Old English word death
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all and that in turn represents an early Germanic borrowing
of the Latin word the obelis and ultimately it means slanderer,
a slanderer, so slandering things is devilish. And if we
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you know, considering that this is an American podcast and
Christianity is the top religion in the world. It says
in Christianity in particular, that evil is incarnate in the
devil or Satan, a fallen angel who is the primary
opponent of God. So he was once an angel, and
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he got mad at God and betrayed him. And this
fallen angel now comes down here terrorizing the world through evil.
And he is the one who's in charge of this realm.
He's the prince of this particular realm right now. And
as far as how he looks, the Bible is always
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very vague about this, as Satan is traditionally identified as
the serpent who convinced Eve to eat the forbidden fruit.
Thus he has often been depicted as a serpent, as
a serpent um. And it on the other hand, it says,
you know, in the Bible, the devil is identified with
the dragon and the old serpent seen in the Book
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of Revelation again, the prince of this world and the
spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience disobedience.
So so basically, you know, even though he's he's called
a serpent, you know, if you read the Book of Genesis,
it says that, well, he's talking to Eve and you know,
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we know that I've we've not seen a talking snake.
And and the story basically goes that God was so
angry that uh he had that that the devil had
interfered with Adam and Eve, that he cursed his form
to slither on his belly forever. And so you get
the idea that the devil took on a form that
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was not like we think of as the modern day serpent. Okay.
So that said, there is one moment in the Bible
that is particularly dramatic if you really think about it,
and that is when the devil sits down and has
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direct conversations with Jesus. So, if you believe in the
stories of the Bible, and you believe that Jesus was
a divine incarnation, perhaps I mean, you know, some say
Jesus was basically God and the devil has decided to
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come and talk to him. Now that's an interesting conversation,
isn't it. And let's go back and look at just
what the devil actually says to Jesus. According to the Bible,
in the Book of Matthew, it says that Jesus was
led by spirit. Okay, this is something like the Holy Spirit,
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I guess to go into the wilderness and too fast
for forty days and forty nights. Well, he was obviously
a man, and he was hungry. Okay, so I'm paraphrasing
a little bit here. But then it's says the tempter
came to him. Now we're talking about the devil appears.
Doesn't say how he appeared, doesn't saybody looks like and
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the tempter comes to him and says. He doesn't say like,
let's let's do battle like Darth Vader and Obi wan Kenobi. No,
he just says, you're hungry, right, yeah, yeah, Jesus, So
he says, well, if you're the son of God, you know,
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just tell these stones to become bread. So what is
the Okay, what's the message here? The message is that
the devil is trying to undermine Jesus's confidence in himself, like, well,
if you're so special, you know you don't have to
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go through this. Use your special magical power and make
make these stones turn into bread so you're not hungry anymore.
And Jesus response in a very interesting way, he says,
man shall not live on bread alone, but on every
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word that comes from the mouth of God. That's a
very interesting point, isn't it. Man shall not live by
bread alone, because if you do that, well, you're just
like an animal. The humans are beyond that. We're we're spiritual.
When we come back, let's talk about the other two
things that the devil said to Jesus and what is
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he getting at? What's his message? What can we learn
by the moral the morals of these stories? And also
can you bind up the devil? I think I may
have some ideas on that for you. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
You're listening to strange things on the I Heart Radio
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And think about the devil telling Jesus, you know, if
you're so great, do that he's trying to make him
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maybe abuse his power. Jesus says, man shall not live
on bread alone, that's true. Then the devil took him
to the Holy City and had him stand on the
highest point of the temple and said, if you are
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the son of God, throw yourself down. He says, he
will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift
you up in their hands so that you will not
strike your foot against a stone. So now the devil's
tempting him with a side. Oh really, well, you don't
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want to demonstrate your power. Okay, Well here's another version.
Why don't you just kill yourself and let's see if
how how much that God really loves you, how much
he's going to protect you. And Jesus answers him, and
he says, do not put the Lord your God to
the test. Do not put your Lord to God to
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the test. So then the devil takes him to a
very high mountain and shows him all the kingdoms of
the world. It's like the devil's teleporting Jesus around here,
shows him all the kingdoms of the world and they're splendor,
and decides, well, I guess this is my last chance
to win this guy over. And he says, all of
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this I will give you if you'll just bow down
and worship me, and Jesus said, away from me, Satan,
for it is written, worship the Lord your god, and
serve him only. And that is when the devil gave
up and left, and then angels appeared and attended to Jesus.
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Now isn't that interesting that Again, it's not like the
devil appeared and wanted to do vicious battle like something
out of a sci fi movie. No, he tried to
come and persuade Jesus and convince Jesus to doubt his
beliefs and his truths, and to doubt him himself and
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his faith and what is good and what is powerful,
and to ultimately win him over with the superficial and
temporary things of this world. Because this is the devil's world,
it says, this is he's the prince of this world.
Right now. Do you think when you look at the
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world today, that the demons have been let loose and
that there is a lot of this type of realistic
activity going on, that we're not looking at little monsters
with horns and forked tongues and tails running around. No,
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it's persuasion of one kind or another, and you have
to to be steadfast there. That's I think what the
devil really is, but you can come up with your
own opinion. You know that you can bind the devil
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symbolically or devilish things. Uh, you know. I have my
device on my website called the Bad Buster, and the
holidays are coming up, and I created a product which
I call the Crumpus Buster. It's the anti Crumpas Doll.
And I'll talk more about this a little later, I'm sure,
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but Crumpus is this demonic, monstrous figure that is the
opposite of Santa Claus. Santa Claus is old St. Nicholas.
He's supposed to show up and give you gifts if
you're good. Crumpus instead shows up and he drags you
off intoes terrible things to you if you're bad. And
I created this is an original creation, a special Crumpas
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doll that you ritualistically bind up and you put away
as the holidays are approaching. So you bind up dark,
negative spirits around the holidays. Seriously, I don't have many
of these, but I'll give right now. You're getting your
heads up before I send out an you knows letter
about this. You'll get a big discount if you go
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and look at this and you can get one of these.
Go to crumpus buster dot com k R A M
p U S crumpus buster dot com and just look
at this thing and look at how cool and interesting
it is. Then I'll be talking more about the Crumpus
on a future show. So I'm giving you a little
heads up before everybody else jumps on it. Crumpus buster
dot com. Hey, let's see if I can squeeze in
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an email here from Jennifer in Howell, Michigan. This is
something that happened, she said, summer of two thousand seven.
I was sleeping over at my boyfriend Billy's house. When
we would go to bed, he'd always sleep by the
wall and I'd sleep on the outside. I awoke at
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the door creaking as it opened. I laid there looking
at a very tall, dark figure standing in the doorway.
Billy started tapping me with his finger. The dark figure
entered the room and gazed at us for a moment.
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Suddenly it crouched down on all fours and started to
running around the bed back and forth, growling and snarling.
It had shifted into something like a dog. This thing
looked blacker than the darkest shadows in the bedroom. I
could not believe what I was seeing, and my boyfriend
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was tapping me faster. Now I was paralyzed with fear,
so all I could do was watched the creature on
the floor. It stopped at the foot of the bed,
jumped up and clamped its jaws on Billy's foot and
yanked him halfway off the bed. Billy sat up as
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the creature backed into the darkest corner of the room
and then disappeared. Billy and I spoke about what had happened,
and he told me he could not move or talk
when the creature touched him. He said he was trying
to call out to me, but no sound would come out.
We tried to sleep, and the next day we saw
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that there were bruises around Billy's ankle. This incident baffles
us to this day. Billy thinks the creature was trying
to steal his soul and jump into his body. Billy's
mom thinks it was a demon, the same demon that
had taken over her father when she was young. Her
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father was a very evil man who had beaten the
family and mistreated the children. When she was a little girl.
Her father was locked in the house as it burned
to the ground. I don't know what to make of this,
as I've had shadow figure encounters, but nothing violent like this.
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I do know this thing was after something. Oh boy,
I can understand why it's something like that happens. You
would say, uh, yeah, this is some kind of a
soul steeler. This is something like this is a demonic
monster of some kind that is an incarnate creature here
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that has come to wreak havoc. I can understand that. Um,
but maybe that's something different than a than an actual
demon that is there to sort of ultimately persuade you mentally.
We just don't know. I don't have the answer to everything,
and that's what I tell people from time to time.
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People ask me questions and I say, I'm an expert
on what we don't know. But I do know that
I believe in forces of good and evil and right
and wrong. And anybody who watches the Serial Killer and
true crime shows ought to know that. And that's why
it's important after you listen to this sort of dark content,
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and I'm sorry, you know, you have to face it
sometimes it's it's it's interesting. You have to know what
the problem is before you can solve it. That's why
it's important for you to increase your defenses and to
have positivity and to fill your mind with good things
and optimistic thoughts to combat a lot of a lot
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of the darkness, and and don't take substances that can
can weaken you um and make you sick and make
you vulnerable. And in fact, a lot of people take
a glass of water when I I'm gonna play the
good Fortune tone here for you. You I think you
definitely needed after this. They take that glass of water
and they place it in front of the speaker and
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they play the good Fortune tone at last twenty seconds,
and then later they drink that glass of water and
say that they feel refreshed and re energized and positive
and strong, and that it really does something great for them.
So maybe you should try it. If if not, that's fine,
just kick back, relax, take a deep breath, and listen
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to it. And I hope you've enjoyed this spooky show.
But now it's time to cleanse everything. So here you
go enjoy the good Fortune tone. That's it for this
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you can do at home, and a lot more on
this edition of the program. An amazing new ghost photo
has been captured, and I am breaking it right here
on this podcast exclusively. I've been doing a lot of
that lately. I recently broke some amazing UFO footage and
now I have this picture I'm going to tell you
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all about plus plus we're gonna get into who is
the Devil. That's quite a topic, and I want to
warn you that I will be playing some audio a
little bit later that really freaks some people out. So
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I know. I talk a lot about inspirational, warm and
fuzzy stuff, but this is this is gonna be a
creepy one for some of you that said, let's jump
into this new ghost photo. Of course, I live here
in Las Vegas, Nevada, and I produced the Vegas Ghosts
and UFO show that we do almost every weekend at
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the Millennium Fandom Bar in Downtown Vegas, very popular cosplay bar.
The show was hosted by Nick Weird. It's a big
party all the time, but especially on the weekends there
and the manager is a lady named Linda Beamonte who
is also a psychic medium. In fact, if you remember
(03:15):
the podcast that I did where I went to the
Haunted Pioneer Saloon and Good Springs, Nevada, I brought a
crew with me and Linda was part of that crew.
So Linda contacted me recently and she said, there is
this woman who lives in Vegas. She came into the bar.
Her name is Teresa Marie, and she took a photograph
(03:38):
that I really think you ought to see, and I said, okay,
I'll be happy to take a look at it. Linda
sent me a photo that amazingly, I mean, it just
immediately made me do like a double take, like what, Okay,
here's the situation. Theresa Marie she studied photography professionally for
five years. She now works in the legal field. And
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on December twenty nine of two thousand and fifteen, she
was at the Church of Notre Dame in Paris, France,
late at night, about ten forty two pm local time.
And of course, as you know, the Church of Notre
Dame is not even accessible right now because it caught
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on fire in twenty nineteen. So here she was three
years more or less before that, and she took a photo.
She was by herself. She was like on a backpacking
kind of trips. She set up a tripod. She had
a professional camera, and she took a photo of herself
standing there in front of the church of Notre Dame,
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and she gave it just a little bit of a
long exposure, and I swear to you, it looks like
there are two apparitional nuns, like very solid looking nuns
standing behind her, wearing hoods. And now one thing that
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I immediately was concerned about was that it looked like,
I mean, there was a light in the background, and
anytime somebody takes a picture and it sort of pointed
toward the light, that bothers me some because I think, well,
could this light have just created this illusion somehow? But
I contacted her. I got her on the phone, and
let me tell you, she had control photos. She she
(05:26):
told me what kind of camera she used. It was
a Canon camera, she gave me. I was actually can
an e O S T three rebel never been dropped
her damnage. She told me what kind of lens it was.
The aperture I get, the exposure time, the focal length,
the iOS, all this stuff. I mean, she could not
have done a better job documenting what what is in
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this image. And I sent that to my A team,
I sent it to Mobius, I sent it to a
professional photographer, c Eric Scott. I sent it to historian
Vance Paul. None of them could explain these figures that
look so solid in this image. And so I think
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she has a picture of what appears to be a
couple of of ghostly women standing behind her. All right,
And so before I give you more details about our analysis,
I decided to bring her onto the show and let
her tell you at her own words about her experience.
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It helps lend credibility to hear from the photographer about
how she got this picture. And then after this I'll
come back and I'll give you more information about our analysis.
If you want to see this picture, though, for now
while you're listening to her, go to Joshua P. Warren
dot com. Click the link to the Curiosity Shop and
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if you scroll down, you'll just see her name somewhere
near the bottom of the page, Theresa Marie. And if
you click her name, then that will take you to
a page with all the enhancements. So I got her
on the phone and I just said, please tell us
the story Teresa of how you captured this photo, and
here's what she said. UM. So I was in France
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in I was back back in solo, UM, trying to
capture all those little things here and there that everyone
goes to as a tourist, as well as exploring other places.
I believe that was my last night in France. I
was getting ready to head back to the States. UM,
and I was like, let me go snag a photo
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at Notre Dame. Go explore UM. And I set up
my tripod UM, you know, just with my DSLR. I
took photography in school and wanted to get a really
good long exposure UM in front of it, kind of
in an area that it wasn't too crowded, brave up
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front and get the whole building. UM. And I took
one or two shots before UM, just to get where
I really wanted to snap that photo. UM, and then
one after it. And I was looking through in my
preview pain between the photos and saw something. UM. I
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zoomed in, packed up and took a picture of it
on my iPhone actually and sent it to my little
brother in the States and was like, if anything happens,
I'm going to this bar, just letting you know where
to look for me. UM. And it was funny because
you could see it in the preview pain it wasn't
like I downloaded it onto my computer and looked and
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zoomed in later it was very noticeable. UM in my cannon. UM.
And I actually ended up not touring or going any
closer to Notre Dame. I was kind of freaked out
and packed up and headed away. And it's so great
that you were able to also capture those control photos
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that we were able to use for analysis. And UM,
so now have you captured something ghostly like that before? No? UM.
I and I looked through all of my photos. I've
been all over I went to on that trip. I
went to um Bath Bruge, gent Um it's a Brugi
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and gent In, Belgium. Bath in England, um Stonehenge. I
went to UM the mont St. Michelle Abbey, UM and
none of my photos had anything else. UM. I've been
all over the US, UM taking photos. I've you know,
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been in cemetery's never really thought about it, looked at
photos in the past, nothing like that. UM. I've experienced
and seen ghosts UM as a kid. You know, everyone
discredits if you've actually seen them that you don't talk
about it much unless you find that little niche of
people who totally, you know, believe you would agree with you.
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So when I caught this photo, it was kind of
like I actually have not you know, it's proof, it's
you can say you see it all day and whether
people believe it or not that the photo is real. UM,
what I experienced I knew was real. So for those
who have not had a chance to look at the
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photo yet, UM, please describe what you see when you
look at that image. UM. So the full image is
me standing in front of UM Notre Dame, and I
believe it's over my right shoulder. UM, there's uh. To
the right of me, there's a lamp post, two women,
and then up above my head, UM appears to be
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too floating nuns. UM. One of them. She has a
very um like it's very pronounced like the definition to
her face. UM, she's you know, more of an elongated face,
very very red lips. UM with I always thought it
was a habit. I didn't know what else to call it.
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That's what I grew up knowing them as. UM. But
I believe you joshuad that there was another name and
I don't remember it, but Um. And then there's another
woman slightly above her to the right of that UM
and the photo would be probably looking at it at
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the left. I'm remembering actually standing there and taking it Um.
And I want to say, she looks like she has
more of a round face with glasses. Even so, it's
very like to me, they were very noticeable immediately with
facial features. All Right, we have to take a break,
and when we come back, I'll tell you more about
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some freaky audio for you. You might not want to
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The Church of Notre Dame, well, they started building it
in the year eleven sixty three. Notre Dame de Paris
means our Lady of Paris. And I have been a
professional paranormal investigator for around thirty years. And I don't
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bring people on this show to talk about having captured
a paranormal image unless I think it's it's really worthy
because as I have talked to that person, I have
gotten thorough data from that person, a lot of details,
and had it analyzed by a great team of people.
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And I want to really think Teresa Marie for sending
this to me, and actually we'll Lynda be a monte
sent it. But I want to thank Teresa for talking
to me and coming on the show and sharing this
with us and letting us post it for you. And
when you look at this picture, and again if you
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want to see it, go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com,
click the link to the Curiosity Shop scrolled down and
just click the link to her name, Teresa Marie. Here
she is standing outside of the church at night, and
there are there are a couple of normal women like
tourists in the background who are staring up at the church.
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But looking over Teresa Marie's shoulder are these two figures
that immediately appear like nuns, but you can only see
them from sort of the waist up, or primarily see
them from the waist up. They have these kind of
white hoods, and their faces are so distinct and so
solid that when you look at the close up, I mean,
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it's hard to deny that these are some types of apparitions.
And again I hated that there was a light in
the background, and it was and this is a slightly
long exposure because I know that can create some very
weird optical illusions, But in this case, I think that
we can't just explain this as as a lens flare
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or an optical illusion like that. It's too distinct. And
so here here's what happened. Like again, I sent it
to a bunch of experts. Mobia said he couldn't explain
what this was. But you know, see Eric Scott, he
is again a professional filmmaker and professional photographer, and he said,
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this is very interesting photo. He said, I've been trying
to come up with any and all practical reasons that
would have caused this to happen. I've even researched this
particular camera model to see if it had any known
long exposure issues. And he goes on to get very
technical here, and uh, he said, you know, I've I've
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passed this through a variety of filters, and he ends
up saying that, um, he he put it through an
embossing filter, which sort of makes the physical details pop.
And he said, in the embossed crop, you can even
see that the heads have a three dimensional appearance that
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they don't seem flat. They seem to pop out like
people sort of you know, vaguely transparent people standing there.
Eric summarizes by saying, anyway, I cannot come up with
any reasonable explanation that would cause this exact thing to happen.
Now vance my historian, whom I call Sherlock Pollock, Fancy Pollock.
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He he was looking at this in historical context and
he was really impressed. And he said, when you when
you look at the type of of hoods or head
garments that these ladies appear to be wearing, he says,
I believe this looks like a common camelet hood that's
spelled c a m l et a camelet hood from
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the late seventeenth century. We would identify them with the
era of the witch trials. He said the hood was
often worn loose, that is, untied, and then he also
included a picture of women wearing that and he said,
I have not seen so far any portrayals of nuns
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of Notre Dame wearing anything quite like this on their heads.
But he says, it's a fascinating image. So that makes
it even more interesting in a way that, uh, we
would associate that with something like which trial. So look,
all I can tell you is we've done everything that
we can do. She has control photos that do that.
We're taken the same way. It's not in the control photos.
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We have all the technical information we have her explanation,
we have our expert analysis, and I just I really
cannot explain what we have here. So I hope that
you'll go take a look at it. And when you
consider that this was taken outside of a church, though,
it makes it especially interesting. I find churches fascinating and
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inspirational and creepy all at once, because churches are kind
of the front lines for what we think of as
a great spiritual battle between good and evil, and sometimes
evil is able to take hold within the church, and
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sometimes the opposite can happen, and good things can happen
in places that we traditionally associate with evil. It's a
big battle that's always going back and forth. And it
may be that these women are some kinds of protective
spirits that were there around the church, or maybe they
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knew what was coming up, uh, that there was gonna
be this tragic fire in a few years. I mean, again,
all we can do is speculate. But when I start
looking at the possibility that we have spirits here that
are are holy and protective and maybe guardians of this place,
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well that I can't help. But thinking about the possibility
of really scary negative well, demonic type things. And look,
in all my years of doing paranormal research, I've never
seen a little a little devil with horns running around
that looks like a little gargle. I know people see
creatures like that. I've never seen like a cartoon caricature
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of a demon. But you know, I did interview x
or suspiciou Brian we let Uh not too long ago
on this show. If you haven't listened to that, you
might want to go back and listen to it. Fascinating interview.
He has a very nuanced way of viewing what say
possession is, and he has he says he has seen
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people levitate, and he has seen immortal strength, and he's
seen people's faces change, and he's seen this kind of stuff.
And I think he is inclined to believe that that
humans are the conduit for evil. That we have maybe
good and evil within us, but the evil is powerless
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without humans there. And when you think about this idea
of like demonic possession, and we try to wrap our
our minds around what that that really means and what
that's about. I think of some of the audio clips
that I've heard that have been presented to me as
authentic audio of people who are possessed and who are
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undergoing an exorcism. And one of the creepiest pieces of
audio that I have is from a supposed Russian exorcism
that took place many years ago. And here's the most
bizarre thing. I decided to play this for you guys.
And you know I I've done professional radio and audio
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work for for decades, and I went to capture this audio,
just like I've done a million times with anything else.
And it took me an hour. I couldn't capture the audio.
Every time I would try to capture it would play
on my computer. But every time I try to capture it,
I would get error messages. And I would put it
into programs to convert it, and I would get an
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error message. And I thought, maybe I'm not even supposed
to play this. So finally I said, you know what
I'm gonna do it. I I just took out my
cell phone and I played it on my computer and
I recorded on my cell phone, and then I just
emailed it to myself. So that's what you're literally about
to hear. This is a little over a minute, and
it's gonna be a hard minute to listen to for
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many of you, but I want you to listen to
this and think about whether or not you believe this.
Sounds like there's something actually supernatural happening to this this
Russian woman as she is undergoing an exorcism. Okay, are
you ready? I'll give you a countdown just in case
you don't want to hear this. Now this is creepy stuff.
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Three two one. Now what do you think has caused
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such a reaction in that woman? Could it be? Say?
All right, we're gonna take a break. When we come back,
I'm going to play some more downright scary audio for you,
and then we're going to dig into that question of
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who is the devil? I mean, if you were to
come into contact with this figure called the devil, what
would that really be like? What would that really mean?
Maybe it's a little more nuanced than you would expect.
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Maybe you encounter the devil all the time. I'm Joshua
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If indeed the minions, the minions of the devil, are
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these demons? Can they actually possess somebody? Have you heard
of the movie surely you have, The Exorcism of Emily Rose.
It came out in two thousand five that was based
on the case of a real girl in Germany named
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Analysee Michelle, and she was born in September of nineteen
fifty two, and she died July of nineteen seventy six.
She was only twenty three years old. She died in
the midst of an exorcism. And whatso outstanding is they
say that she underwent sixty seven Catholic exorcism rights during
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the year before her death, and ultimately when she died,
doctors said that they thought she died of malnutrition, and
because of that, her parents and the priest were convicted
of negligent homicide. She was diagnosed with epileptic psychosis and
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had a history of psychiatric treatment. So this is a
case where we have a real young woman here who
ended up actually dying in the midst of of exorcisms
and a legal conviction. Also, they say the award winning
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two thousand six film Requiem was based upon her case.
And so there is what I understand to be actual
audio from one of her exorcisms. And I figure, you
know what, since this is such an outstanding case, I
may as well play just one minute or so of
(30:29):
this for you so you can see how she compares
to what you just heard from the Russian woman who
was undergoing an exorcism. And I I don't speak German,
well enough to actually understand what she is saying in
this clip. But once again, I'm sure that some of
(30:53):
you will find this very disturbing. So we'll give it
a little over a minute, and here is my countdown
for you of her being uh exercised, three two, one,
Thank you, son shied loved on its on it shine,
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so it's happy. Don't shine be chazy Thazy is see
to like? Sousie has Wow who see to like? So
Housie has loved all right, So that is all the
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exorcism audio I'm gonna play for you, So don't worry
about that. If that's too heavy for you, I get it.
And as a matter of fact, I have attended a
couple of exorcisms myself, and uh these were many years ago,
but I saw people make the same kinds of of sounds,
(32:46):
and their faces contort and their backs arch, and they
sort of almost seemed to shape shift into some other
type of of creature. And now, I've never seen anything
that could not just be a hell of an acting job,
if you want to get right down to it. I've
never seen somebody levitate or create some you know, poltergeist
(33:11):
phenomenon in the room where I've never seen that. But
you know, there is something to this phenomenon, and we
have to ask ourselves, all right, well, what's the source
of all this? Who is this character called the devil
that is supposedly behind all this? And if you just
go and you basically start reading about the devil, just
(33:35):
to the Wikipedia page, it says the devil is the
personification of evil as it is conceived in various cultures
and various traditions. It is seen as the objectification of
a hostile and destructive force. It's important to understand that
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the devil is a figure in many any different religions
all around the world, and of course many we have
many different names Satan, Lucifer, Bills above, Mephisophlees, etcetera. But
as far as the meaning of the word in modern English,
the word devil comes from the Middle English word de
vel and, which comes from the Old English word death
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all and that in turn represents an early Germanic borrowing
of the Latin word the obelis and ultimately it means slanderer,
a slanderer, so slandering things is devilish. And if we
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you know, considering that this is an American podcast and
Christianity is the top religion in the world. It says
in Christianity in particular, that evil is incarnate in the
devil or Satan, a fallen angel who is the primary
opponent of God. So he was once an angel, and
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he got mad at God and betrayed him. And this
fallen angel now comes down here terrorizing the world through evil.
And he is the one who's in charge of this realm.
He's the prince of this particular realm right now. And
as far as how he looks, the Bible is always
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very vague about this, as Satan is traditionally identified as
the serpent who convinced Eve to eat the forbidden fruit.
Thus he has often been depicted as a serpent, as
a serpent um. And it on the other hand, it says,
you know, in the Bible, the devil is identified with
the dragon and the old serpent seen in the Book
(35:52):
of Revelation again, the prince of this world and the
spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience disobedience.
So so basically, you know, even though he's he's called
a serpent, you know, if you read the Book of Genesis,
it says that, well, he's talking to Eve and you know,
(36:16):
we know that I've we've not seen a talking snake.
And and the story basically goes that God was so
angry that uh he had that that the devil had
interfered with Adam and Eve, that he cursed his form
to slither on his belly forever. And so you get
the idea that the devil took on a form that
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was not like we think of as the modern day serpent. Okay.
So that said, there is one moment in the Bible
that is particularly dramatic if you really think about it,
and that is when the devil sits down and has
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direct conversations with Jesus. So, if you believe in the
stories of the Bible, and you believe that Jesus was
a divine incarnation, perhaps I mean, you know, some say
Jesus was basically God and the devil has decided to
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come and talk to him. Now that's an interesting conversation,
isn't it. And let's go back and look at just
what the devil actually says to Jesus. According to the Bible,
in the Book of Matthew, it says that Jesus was
led by spirit. Okay, this is something like the Holy Spirit,
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I guess to go into the wilderness and too fast
for forty days and forty nights. Well, he was obviously
a man, and he was hungry. Okay, so I'm paraphrasing
a little bit here. But then it's says the tempter
came to him. Now we're talking about the devil appears.
Doesn't say how he appeared, doesn't saybody looks like and
(38:06):
the tempter comes to him and says. He doesn't say like,
let's let's do battle like Darth Vader and Obi wan Kenobi. No,
he just says, you're hungry, right, yeah, yeah, Jesus, So
he says, well, if you're the son of God, you know,
(38:27):
just tell these stones to become bread. So what is
the Okay, what's the message here? The message is that
the devil is trying to undermine Jesus's confidence in himself, like, well,
if you're so special, you know you don't have to
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go through this. Use your special magical power and make
make these stones turn into bread so you're not hungry anymore.
And Jesus response in a very interesting way, he says,
man shall not live on bread alone, but on every
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word that comes from the mouth of God. That's a
very interesting point, isn't it. Man shall not live by
bread alone, because if you do that, well, you're just
like an animal. The humans are beyond that. We're we're spiritual.
When we come back, let's talk about the other two
things that the devil said to Jesus and what is
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he getting at? What's his message? What can we learn
by the moral the morals of these stories? And also
can you bind up the devil? I think I may
have some ideas on that for you. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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And think about the devil telling Jesus, you know, if
you're so great, do that he's trying to make him
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maybe abuse his power. Jesus says, man shall not live
on bread alone, that's true. Then the devil took him
to the Holy City and had him stand on the
highest point of the temple and said, if you are
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the son of God, throw yourself down. He says, he
will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift
you up in their hands so that you will not
strike your foot against a stone. So now the devil's
tempting him with a side. Oh really, well, you don't
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want to demonstrate your power. Okay, Well here's another version.
Why don't you just kill yourself and let's see if
how how much that God really loves you, how much
he's going to protect you. And Jesus answers him, and
he says, do not put the Lord your God to
the test. Do not put your Lord to God to
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the test. So then the devil takes him to a
very high mountain and shows him all the kingdoms of
the world. It's like the devil's teleporting Jesus around here,
shows him all the kingdoms of the world and they're splendor,
and decides, well, I guess this is my last chance
to win this guy over. And he says, all of
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this I will give you if you'll just bow down
and worship me, and Jesus said, away from me, Satan,
for it is written, worship the Lord your god, and
serve him only. And that is when the devil gave
up and left, and then angels appeared and attended to Jesus.
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Now isn't that interesting that Again, it's not like the
devil appeared and wanted to do vicious battle like something
out of a sci fi movie. No, he tried to
come and persuade Jesus and convince Jesus to doubt his
beliefs and his truths, and to doubt him himself and
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his faith and what is good and what is powerful,
and to ultimately win him over with the superficial and
temporary things of this world. Because this is the devil's world,
it says, this is he's the prince of this world.
Right now. Do you think when you look at the
(45:01):
world today, that the demons have been let loose and
that there is a lot of this type of realistic
activity going on, that we're not looking at little monsters
with horns and forked tongues and tails running around. No,
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it's persuasion of one kind or another, and you have
to to be steadfast there. That's I think what the
devil really is, but you can come up with your
own opinion. You know that you can bind the devil
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symbolically or devilish things. Uh, you know. I have my
device on my website called the Bad Buster, and the
holidays are coming up, and I created a product which
I call the Crumpus Buster. It's the anti Crumpas Doll.
And I'll talk more about this a little later, I'm sure,
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but Crumpus is this demonic, monstrous figure that is the
opposite of Santa Claus. Santa Claus is old St. Nicholas.
He's supposed to show up and give you gifts if
you're good. Crumpus instead shows up and he drags you
off intoes terrible things to you if you're bad. And
I created this is an original creation, a special Crumpas
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doll that you ritualistically bind up and you put away
as the holidays are approaching. So you bind up dark,
negative spirits around the holidays. Seriously, I don't have many
of these, but I'll give right now. You're getting your
heads up before I send out an you knows letter
about this. You'll get a big discount if you go
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and look at this and you can get one of these.
Go to crumpus buster dot com k R A M
p U S crumpus buster dot com and just look
at this thing and look at how cool and interesting
it is. Then I'll be talking more about the Crumpus
on a future show. So I'm giving you a little
heads up before everybody else jumps on it. Crumpus buster
dot com. Hey, let's see if I can squeeze in
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an email here from Jennifer in Howell, Michigan. This is
something that happened, she said, summer of two thousand seven.
I was sleeping over at my boyfriend Billy's house. When
we would go to bed, he'd always sleep by the
wall and I'd sleep on the outside. I awoke at
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the door creaking as it opened. I laid there looking
at a very tall, dark figure standing in the doorway.
Billy started tapping me with his finger. The dark figure
entered the room and gazed at us for a moment.
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Suddenly it crouched down on all fours and started to
running around the bed back and forth, growling and snarling.
It had shifted into something like a dog. This thing
looked blacker than the darkest shadows in the bedroom. I
could not believe what I was seeing, and my boyfriend
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was tapping me faster. Now I was paralyzed with fear,
so all I could do was watched the creature on
the floor. It stopped at the foot of the bed,
jumped up and clamped its jaws on Billy's foot and
yanked him halfway off the bed. Billy sat up as
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the creature backed into the darkest corner of the room
and then disappeared. Billy and I spoke about what had happened,
and he told me he could not move or talk
when the creature touched him. He said he was trying
to call out to me, but no sound would come out.
We tried to sleep, and the next day we saw
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that there were bruises around Billy's ankle. This incident baffles
us to this day. Billy thinks the creature was trying
to steal his soul and jump into his body. Billy's
mom thinks it was a demon, the same demon that
had taken over her father when she was young. Her
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father was a very evil man who had beaten the
family and mistreated the children. When she was a little girl.
Her father was locked in the house as it burned
to the ground. I don't know what to make of this,
as I've had shadow figure encounters, but nothing violent like this.
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I do know this thing was after something. Oh boy,
I can understand why it's something like that happens. You
would say, uh, yeah, this is some kind of a
soul steeler. This is something like this is a demonic
monster of some kind that is an incarnate creature here
(50:16):
that has come to wreak havoc. I can understand that. Um,
but maybe that's something different than a than an actual
demon that is there to sort of ultimately persuade you mentally.
We just don't know. I don't have the answer to everything,
and that's what I tell people from time to time.
(50:38):
People ask me questions and I say, I'm an expert
on what we don't know. But I do know that
I believe in forces of good and evil and right
and wrong. And anybody who watches the Serial Killer and
true crime shows ought to know that. And that's why
it's important after you listen to this sort of dark content,
(51:00):
and I'm sorry, you know, you have to face it
sometimes it's it's it's interesting. You have to know what
the problem is before you can solve it. That's why
it's important for you to increase your defenses and to
have positivity and to fill your mind with good things
and optimistic thoughts to combat a lot of a lot
(51:21):
of the darkness, and and don't take substances that can
can weaken you um and make you sick and make
you vulnerable. And in fact, a lot of people take
a glass of water when I I'm gonna play the
good Fortune tone here for you. You I think you
definitely needed after this. They take that glass of water
and they place it in front of the speaker and
(51:44):
they play the good Fortune tone at last twenty seconds,
and then later they drink that glass of water and
say that they feel refreshed and re energized and positive
and strong, and that it really does something great for them.
So maybe you should try it. If if not, that's fine,
just kick back, relax, take a deep breath, and listen
(52:08):
to it. And I hope you've enjoyed this spooky show.
But now it's time to cleanse everything. So here you
go enjoy the good Fortune tone. That's it for this
(52:45):
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