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I am Joshua Pe Warren, and each week on this show,
I'll be bringing you brand new my blowing content, news exercises,
and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more on this edition of the show. What is instinct? From?
Where does it come? I believe this is a profound question.
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How is behavioral info automatically passed along through physical matter genes?
Now let me repeat that, how is behavioral info automatically
passed along through physical matter genes? And what is the
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orig of this info? Does it mean that there is
a god that there is an intelligent design. If not, well,
what is the source of instinct, because we toss that
word around a lot, Well, why does an animal behave
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in a certain way? It's just instinct? Oh okay, end
of story, end of discussion. Just an instinct. Yeah, but
we're talking about more or less a blob of cells here.
You know, with DNA, the scientists will say, we put
this under a microscope. It's a physical thing, and yet
when it evolves and develops, it has this behavior. This
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is actually I think this topic is so important that
I'm almost intimidated to try to explore it because I
don't think I can do it accurately. So let's just
start with the ban shall we. Let's go to the internet,
and let's just read what the basic you know, like
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Wikipedia sort of standard definition is of what instinct even is.
We'll start here. Instinct is the inherent inclination of a
living organism towards a particular complex behavior, containing both innate
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That means inborn and learned elements. That's kind of interesting,
but it says The simplest example of an instinctive behavior
is a fixed action pattern also known as a fat FAP.
A fixed action pattern in which a very short to
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medium length sequence of actions without variation are carried out
in response to a car corresponding clearly defined stimulus. Now,
don't worry that if that didn't make perfect sense. It's
a very clinical way of looking at it. So it
says any behavior is instinctive if it is performed without
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being based upon prior experience, that is, in the absence
of learning, and is therefore an expression of innate biological factors. So,
for example, sea turtles newly hatched on a beach will
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instinctively move toward the ocean. A marsupial climbs into its
mother's pouch upon being born. Other examples include animal fighting,
animal courtship behavior, internal escape functions, and the building of nests.
Though an instinct is defined by its invariant innate care characteristics,
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details of its performance can be changed by experience. So
for example, a dog can improve its listening skills by practice. Okay,
so let me pause for a second. So what they're
basically saying here is that a behavior is instinctive if
it is performed without being based upon prior experience the
absence of learning. But an instinct can, however, be augmented
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with learning, so it can be changed. But that's kind
of getting off on a bit of a tangent. Let's
stick with the good old fashioned, pure definition of what
we're talking about here, a behavior performed without being based
upon prior experience or learning. Instincts are inborn, complex patterns
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of behavior that exist in most members of the species
and should be distinguished from reflexes. So again, and I'm
going to pause here, an instinct is not the same
thing as a reflex. They say. A reflex is a
simple response of an organism to a specific stimulus, such
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as the contraction of the pupil in response to bright light,
or the movement of the lower leg when the knee
is stapped. So a reflex is just like one reaction
that automatically happens based upon a stimulus, whereas an instinct
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deals with the complex behavior that occurs the absence. Okay,
I don't want to I don't want to get too
too deep here because this is a podcast. But basically
it says that we're not just talking about animals. However,
most people do talk about animals when they talk about instincts,
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but instinctual behavior in humans also occurs and we're going
to get to that in a minute, because I think
that's especially interesting. How much of how you behave is
based upon instinct and stuff that you haven't even really
thought about and perhaps that you could modify. And this
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is almost like programming. You hear people talk about a
human be getting a download and being programmed. Well, that's
kind of what we're talking about here. And it also
makes you wonder how far does this go. But let's
take a look real quick at the origin of all this.
There was a French scientist named Jean Henri Fabre who
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was born in eighteen twenty three died in nineteen fifteen,
said to be the first person to study small animals
and insects. It and he was looking for this thing called,
you know, instinct, And I guess he was the one
who was talking about, you know, the unconscious response to
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external conditions. And he concluded that a significant difference between
humans and animals is that animals cannot reason. Now that's
what he said. You know, I guess, you know, we
could go down this whole philosophical roote of like, well
what is reasoning? But I think you get the idea
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of what he's what this guy was saying. He came
to the conclusion after observing how insects and wild birds
continued to repeat a certain behavior in response to a
novel situation, and said that while these instinctive behaviors appeared complex,
the insects and animals did not adjust their behavior despite
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it not helping them necessarily in a novel situation. So
the following are some instinct and animal behaviors that Fabrae
observed and labeled instinctive because he said these do not
involve reasoning. One is maternal instincts, the attraction to a
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mother figure. One is metamorphosis. We all change, you know,
it's not just caterpillars and butterflies. We all change. Mimicry,
the tendency to copy something. Playing dead. Now, that's interesting,
isn't it, because you could apply that to a lot
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of different scenarios. Yeah, it could be the possum playing dead.
But you hear about people playing dead also when they
realize that, like they're in a really dangerous situation. And
then there's this thing called taxis. Let's see, what is that?
The movement of an organism or response to a stimulus
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such as light or the presence of food. Okay, So anyway,
so he kind of like got this whole line of
scientific inquiry going on, and then there's a whole list
of other scientists who came along, and we're trying to
draw other conclusions. One scientist was talking about facial expressions.
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For example. One scientist concluded that it was interesting to
look at the facial expressions of babies trying to avoid
and we're talking human babies I think here trying to
avoid unpleasant emotions because there was something unpleasant in their mouths,
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like they didn't like the taste of something. And then
of course the scientists say, well, this is just a
product of natural selection. Okay, fine, even if it is
natural selection, what is the origin of this and how
is that thing passed along? We're almost up on our
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first break time here, and when we come back, I
want to talk a little bit specifically about how that
humans exhibit instinctual behavior and you know what some examples
of this are, And then of course we're gonna dig,
like I say, even deeper into this idea that maybe
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nothing that is a behavior that we all have in
common can just spontaneously emerge. Maybe there is some intelligent
source behind all of it, and maybe maybe it's continuing
to develop in all of us and some people have
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Ziatato zoome, and I'm talking about the mystery of instincts
and the origin of instincts. Let's talk about instincts in
human beings. According to Officialdom here one is congenital preparedness.
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Congenital means from birth congenital preparedness for developing fear of
snakes and spiders was found in six month old babies. Wow,
isn't that intriguing? I and I don't want to, you know,
take the time to go into the study of that.
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But huh, so you have an instinct in most cases
to be afraid of snakes and spiders. Well, I got
that instinct. I wonder if everybody gets it and some
people overcome it, or if some people just don't have it.
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But that's that's intriguing. I can see why because even
though they may not be as dangerous as we think,
there's there's something there that there's something telling us inside
stay away from that. Number two is the cry is
believed to be a manifestation of instinct the infant cannot
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otherwise protect itself for survival during its long period of maturation. Okay.
Number three, the herd instinct is found in human children
and chimpanzee infants. So that's how that seems to be
something that unfortunately sticks with most people for life. Don't
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you think the herd instinct to just do what everybody
else is doing? And I realized that in most cases
that that works for you. But with the advent of
modern technology, maybe it's time for the instincts to change
a little bit because it's too easy to find a
herd that's on the wrong track. But so then, you know,
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here's another one. Hygiene behavior and humans suggested to be
partly instinctive based on emotions such as discussed. Let's see
next year, we have the maternal bond. Next is self
preservation and then fight or flight. Okay, I think we
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can all relate to fight or flight. Next we have
cooperation that has been considered a social instinct necessary for
the future survival of people. This is interesting. How about
this one? Resistance toward change is the difficulty experienced by
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a person when they are trying to push against the
suggestions made to change behavior or accept treatments regardless of
whether it will improve their condition or not. And then
that it kind of conflicts with this other instinct that
humans have adaptive behavior. Adaptive behavior to environment is an inherited,
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innate phenotypic Characteristic examples are mating searching for food, situational
awareness establishing a pecking order, and vocalizations.
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Huh.
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And then, of course, you know, again we get back
to the difference between you know reflexes, but I don't
want to. You know, I've already explained what that is,
all right, So where do these instincts come from? Well,
before we get to that, let's ask ourselves this question.
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Is an instinct the same as an intuition, because a
lot of people who consider themselves to have psychic ability
or something like that think of themselves having intuition. Well,
let's look up intuition and see what that is. Here's
the definition. Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without
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recourse to conscious reasoning or needing an explanation. Well, that
sounds like the same thing, doesn't it. Different fields use
the word intuition in very different ways, including, but not
limited to, direct access to unconscious knowledge, unconscious cognition, gut feelings,
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inner sensing, inner insight, to unconscious pattern recognition, and the
ability to understand something instinctively without need for conscious reasoning.
But intuitive knowledge tends to be approximate. So whatever this
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thing called instinct or intuition is, it seems like that
we all have it to some degree. And if we
are always evolving, as even the most materialistic scientists say, well,
then instincts should be constantly evolving as well. So is
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this where we get into the realm of psychic perception?
And is this evolution of instinct and intuition more advanced
in some people than others? For example, anybody can throw
a ball, not everybody can be a professional baseball player.
Anyone can strum a guitar, not everyone can be a
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rock and roll star. Anyone can actually sing, not everyone
can sing well. Okay, So yet we know that you
can tap into and develop your instincts and intuitions, and
some people may simply be more apt to be able
to take their intuitions and instincts and develop them. Does
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this mean that it all goes back to some initial
source of intelligence that is being transmitted through our genes.
I tell you something, I've never done this before. I
looked up intelligent design. Have you ever done that before?
I was really surprised at what it says here. Wikipedia
says intelligent design is a pseudo scientific argument for the
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existence of God, presented by its proponents as an evidence
based scientific theory about life's origins. Now, let me stop
for a second again. I've never looked up what an
intelligent design to me just meant more of a vague
idea that there is a pattern, there's an architecture of
the universe. I never realized that if you looked it up,
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the first word it would basically use as pseudo scientific.
Now that is meant to be an insult to intelligence,
which I actually think if you know the history of humankind,
the word pseudo scientific can be quite flattering because that
you could take any great scientists today and put that
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scientist on a time machine and send that scientist back
to the Middle Ages, and that scientist would be burned
at the stake for being a heretic. At very least
they would say you're a pseudo scientist. They really wouldn't
because that terminology didn't exist. But it's the same thing.
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Sometimes it's actually flattering to be called a pseudoscientists because
a lot of people who talk about themselves as scientists
actually have no real grasp of what the scientific method is,
at very least they don't use it. But they call
themselves scientists and call other people who might actually be
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using the scientific method pseudo scientists because it's a put
down and it's an insult. And I'm surprised is that
this term intelligent design has been associated with that, and
it goes on to say, well, this is connected to
a Christian think tank, and look, I didn't know that.
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But if that's the case, I still think that it's
a very interesting term that can be used outside of
that context, because we may be talking about the idea
here that there is some organization to the universe, whereas
the idea of God is a very subjective and nebulous thing.
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Like you can view God in a lot of different ways.
God the Father, God, the Mother, God, the Thing, the Energy,
the all being, the Almighty, the Great Architect. So let
me just ask you this. You know you have instincts,
So do your instincts tell you that there is a
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God and that you have a spirit? Some people say
they have the opposite instinct, a belief in atheism, that
that is not the case at all, that this is
all just some kind of process that's played out. Well,
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how about you, now, I think you can tell my
personal instinct is that there is a God. I don't
define that God because I think God is incomprehensible and
that I also my instinct makes me believe that we
each have an immortal spirit and that this world is
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filled with spirits. Many of them unseen, and that this
world is a classroom in which we are supposed to
learn something. So you do a good job and you
try your best to constantly learn to be a better person.
And I think that that goes back to some original
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information that was passed through my genes. But you know what,
what do you think that's what's important? How do you
what is your instinct to tell you? Where does that
even come from? This intelligence? When we come back from
this break, I ask a question on Facebook. I said,
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what is the best piece of advice you've ever gotten
and who gave it to you? And when we come back,
I'm going to give you some of those pieces of
advice from people all around the world. And then, oh, yeah,
you know me, I have plenty of other goodies for you.
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unusual becomes usual. Personally, I have seen enough evidence to
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believe that evolution is real. That is to say that
things change over time. I've seen enough evidence to believe
that natural selection and artificial selection occurs in order to
help those changes along. But if we just take it
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all the way back to the very beginning, can we
can we believe that something comes from nothing? That kind
of defies everything we know about the fact that energy
can be neither created or destroyed. I know we're digging
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into some concepts that are close to infinity, and again,
this is stuff that we can't understand. I believe it
goes beyond the human brain to grasp and so we
should not close off any options when considering the possibilities.
But if we have intelligence, even if it's in the
form of some spontaneous instinct, and it's yes, it's changed
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and developed, but still does it just come from nothing?
Can something come from nothing? I don't think.
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So.
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I don't pretend to understand all the answers, but I
wish I could do a better job of exploring the
origin of instinct with you. But at least maybe I've
gotten your thinking. And that's the best I can do
in a podcast. Well, you know what, let's get practical
for a minute. So Marie D. Jones is a great writer.
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She's a wonderful author. And I've never met her in person,
but I have interviewed her over the years and we've
corresponded a lot, and she's quite prolific. And she recently
got onto Facebook and she asked her friends on Facebook.
She says, what is the best piece of advice you've
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ever gotten and who gave it to you? And I thought,
you know, that's an interesting question, and I'm going to
ask the people who are Facebook friends that as well,
and I'm going to steal that from her, and let's
just see what kind of feedback I get. So I'm
just going to go down and just sort of jump
around a little bit, and I haven't prepared much for this,
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and let's just see what kind of feedback that we
have here. What do you think about some of this stuff?
Let's see here. Vance Pollock says, sometimes a good day
writing poetry is striking out a line you wrote yesterday.
That's from George Garrett. Chris Hensley says to not take
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life super serious and enjoy your time here for why
you can. Your ego is not who you truly are.
He says that was told to him from DM t Entities.
David Kleman says, my grandfather he always said, travel in
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the middle of the road of life and you will
always have more happiness and fulfillment. Always travel in the
middle of the road. I guess that has a lot
to do with the idea of always in moderation. My
sister Jessica Warren said, an African man at Epcot Center
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when I was a teenager said to me, never look
down upon anyone unless you are picking them up. Kim
Brookes said, if you truly believe in something, stick your
toes firmly into the dirt and stands your ground. She
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said that was told to her by her ex mother
in law because she divorced her son. Victoria Kira said,
my grandmother, my mama always say if you don't don't listen,
you have to feel. She says, turns out that's been
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applicable in many situations in life. Marie Barrager says, don't
put your meat where you get your bread and butter.
My mom gave me that advice. Molly and Kasden said
words don't tell you about a person, They show you
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with their actions. She got that from a CB that
named Freddy. Stephanie Key said, think twice about doing anything.
You know. That's all very interesting, isn't it very interesting?
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Maybe one of these will resonate with you. Let's see
some of the things that Marie d. Jones folks told her.
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That. Uh, let's see.
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Nicole Relic said, my dad always said to have a plan. Okay.
Rebecca slaughter Boyer said, my dad told me nothing is
insurmountable except death. Missy cohen Fife said, this too shall pass.
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That was from her dad. You know, people say that
this too shall pass, and I know that that's supposed
to be comforting, but sometimes it kind of uh, I
don't know, it's kind of a letdown, isn't it, because
it's like, yeah, I know this, you know you're gonna
so this is this is gonna be rough for a while,
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but just hang in there. Ralph Holman said, my friend
John Donahey said, wherever you go there you are sort
of existential bit of wisdom there. Janet d let's see
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Janet m defeat, said her dad. Boy A lot of
people talk about their dad giving them, said her dad said.
Don't let somebody else's bs become your bs. Okay, well,
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I'll just read one more. Laryn Scranton said, my sixth
grade teacher told us do not touch anything you do
not want to buy again. I think there's probably some
wisdom in that. Right. Well, that's just you know, some
stuff to think about. Hopefully, hopefully that will that will
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all bring you some little bit of wisdom that you
can reflect upon, and you're perhaps at a time of
confusion or need because my goodness, speaking of scientists, even
the greatest scientists just don't know what the heck is
going on right now. Here's this story that was posted
at coast tocoastam dot com from Unexplained Mysteries dot com,
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and uh, it's quite intriguing. The headline here is does
the Earth reside within the depths of a black hole?
By T. K. Randall? And it says that might sound unthinkable,
but is our universe simply the interior of a black
hole that is situated within another universe? Now I understand
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where you're like listening right now and you're like, what
is it? What is this? What is this guy talking about?
So here's basically the idea. What ultimately happens to everything
that gets consumed by a black hole? Well, it's it's
a mystery, you know. They say it's all compressed into
this infinitimally small point in space. But does it then
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emerge somewhere else? Is the inside of a black hole
like a universe unto itself? Is it possible that we
are inside of one? Right now? Physicists have been trying
to understand the nature of our universe for centuries, but
one theory that has not really been discussed much is
that Earth, and by extension, our entire universe, is actually
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situated inside of a black hole, which is itself located
within another universe. Like Russian nesting dolls. Perhaps universes can
exist inside one another and black holes are the key.
Is it true that if you get sucked into a
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black hole you're just spaghettified? You know, you've seen that,
You're just like, you know, shredded or do you just
pop out? So look, this is one of those stories that, uh,
you can just go on and on with it. But
it may be the case. And you know, there are
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so many weird things that are flying around us all
the time that we can't explain, you know, whether or
not these could be parts of a multi dimensional or
inter dimensional thing. You know. John Carter, he is a guy,
he's a friend of the show, and he lives in
Canada and he makes a lot of great UFO videos
(37:31):
UFOs worldwide. He just recently published this new book called
the UFO Identification Handbook Preventing Misidentifications, and it has a
SkyWatch Journal included, and it's got a whole bunch of
information about me and Mobius and Jason Saraci. It's really interesting.
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If you go to Amazon dot com and you may
have seen this on my social media, and you look
up the UFO Identification Handbook Preventing Misidentifications by John Carter
c R t Er, you can read all these stories
about this, you know, from this guy who's an expert,
who's breaking down for you all the bizarre things that
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are flying around out there and how you can compare
them to what we now know to be you know,
modern stuff like drones and everything. But look, I don't
mean to go off into all kinds of crazy directions.
As a matter of fact, when we come back from
this brig, I want to read you at least one
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or two spooky stories. But I also want to squeeze
in this special little mental manner that I do once
in a while that my wife Lauren just loves. It's
called it's time to make my wife mad. You know,
I hope she doesn't listen to this. She probably will,
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But sometimes I use my podcas cast to try to
try to get a point across in my relationship we'll
see if it works. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're listening
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And I do this segment sometimes at the end of
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me an opportunity to just talk about whatever kind of
random things are are on my mind. And so I
have this philosophy that if I do this segment once
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wife mad. The idea is that if I, if I
ridicule Lauren on this podcast, then our relationship will be
better and she will love me more. And I'm sure
that I mean, Am I right? Ladies? Doesn't that make sense?
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I've Lauren and I have been together more than half
of my life, and we both tease each other and
and I it's a kind of relationship where we have
a great sense of humor. And if I were a
stand up comedian then she would not mind a bit
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if I got up there and told, you know, wife
jokes and stuff like that. But so what I actually do, however,
is sometimes I bring up some kind of a marital issue.
Because I could sit here and tell you, like, oh,
let me tell you how much I love my wife,
nobody wants to hear that. No. Instead, I want to
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bring up a conflict that we have and let's see
if we can we can get your feedback here and
settle this and see who's who's right and who's wrong. Okay,
are you ready? Well, Lauren and I we are always
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hanging out. Of course, I mean, we're together way more
than I believe most married couples are. We don't have kids,
so you know, anytime we're gonna be focused on another person,
that's usually each other. And so anytime we go out
to I don't know, a restaurant, a store, especially like
a restaurant though, because we get to a lot of
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restaurants together. So when it comes time to leave, we'll
we'll always go to the to the bathroom before we leave,
which is a good piece of advice, by the way,
because you never know what's gonna happen, if you're gonna
get stranded on the side of the road or stopped
in traffic or anyway. So we go to the bathroom.
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I go to the men's room. She goes to the
lady's room. So then here's what often happens. I will
come out of the men's room and I'm standing there
waiting for her outside of the lady's room, and I
wait and I wait and I wait, and I go, man,
I hope she's okay in there. And sometimes, now this
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has got to be pretty extreme, but sometimes I will
even open the door of the lady's room and just
say Lauren, and then at some point she will call
me or shout to me and say she is at
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the front door or possibly even in the car. This
whole time, I'm standing outside the lady's room and she
has abandoned me. She's gone all the way out, and
see like, to me, that doesn't even cross my mind.
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When I come out of the bathroom, I figure I'm
just waiting for her. And then I go out and
I say, Lauren, I can't believe that, you know, you
just ran off to the you know, and left me.
And she goes, Do you think I'm gonna say, I'm
not going to stand in front of the bathroom? She says,
that's weird. I'm like, no, it's not. People do that
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all the time when a couple goes to the bathroom.
In my mind, and this is again, this is instinct
to me. If you go to the bathroom and then
you come out, you just stand there and you wait
for the other person outside the bathroom. She says, Nope,
that's too weird. So now I never know when I
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come outside the bathroom if she's still in the bathroom
or if she's on the other side of the property,
because she finished at lightning speed. She thinks that her
thoughts on this is normal, and I think that my
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thought on this is normal, and I think that it's
respectful to wait outside the bathroom and nobody's going to
care when you wait for the other person. But you know,
she has the opposite opinion, and she's just not willing
to budge on this, and you know, I guess she's
not willing to budge. I guess eventually I'll have to
just acquiesce. But you know, sometimes you might get a
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call or a text and it doesn't come through. So
I don't know. I'm just gonna like leave it up
to you. If you want to give me your opinion
on that, you can email me or message me through
social media and maybe we can settle this situation of
like what are you supposed to do in that situation?
So you see, it's not that bad. It's actually kind
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of interesting, isn't it. So there is my mental manner.
Time to make my wife man okay before we have
to go, let me go to emails and let me
see if I can read a creepy story or two.
How about that. This is from David, who is an
entrepreneur in Michigan. He said. I was living with a
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woman friend and walked past a bay window in her
living room. Out of the corner of my eye, I
saw an old woman sitting outside at her patio table,
and when I tried to look directly at her, she
was gone. I told my friend about it, and she
asked me to describe the old woman. I told her.
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She wore a fancy dress with flowers on it with
lace along the edges. She was wearing a brooch and
had her grayish white hair in a bun. My friend smiled,
led out a little chuckle, and then got up and
a few minutes later came back with a picture. And
when she showed it to me, goosebumps shot all over
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my body. It was the old woman, her mother, just
as I described. I love stories like that, where it's
like instant verification. Welcome to the club. You've seen a ghost,
all right? Let me squeeze in one more from Christopher Anton.
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He is a mechanic in Fresno, California. When I was
nine years old, my two brothers and I were playing
hide and seek. We were outside with our parents and
they were doing yard work because nobody was in the house.
I figured that would be the best place to hide,
so I ran inside and vanished into the living room closet.
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As I was standing in the very back corner, I
felt something hit my leg. I wondered what I had
knocked over, so I turned on the light, but nothing
was there. The area around me was clear, so I
didn't think much about it and turned the light off
and went back to the very back corner. Well. Suddenly,
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a large hand grabbed my ankle and pinned it against
the corner. My stomach was in my throat. I opened
the door and grabbed onto the door jams. I had
one leg out and the other leg being pulled into
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the corner of the closet. I looked to see what
had me that. I was only able to see half
of my leg as the rest was in complete darkness.
Finally I managed to break free. I ran across the
street and sat on the curb, staring at the house.
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At that moment, it occurred to me that if it
was the devil I had encountered, this meant he was real.
This initially scary epiphany, however, meant that God was real too. Wow,
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that's an interesting way of looking at it, huh. Thank you,
Christopher and David. Yeah, I guess you know, maybe maybe
that's part of it, right, Like you have negative experiences
to awaken you to the idea that if bad things
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are real, then good things are real as well, and
that will help inspire you to go towards the good things.
It's like putting your hand in a flame. It seems
like a bad thing because it burns you, but it
actually is a good thing that you feel that pain
because it tells you to move away from it. You
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get this information, you get these indications in life. It's
always a matter of perspective and context, isn't it. Well, Okay,
you know what time it is. It's time to end
the show, and I'm gonna do it with our original
good Fortune tone. If you have a glass of water,
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you might want to put it in front of it
and then drink it after. But anyway, close your eyes,
take a deep breath, relax, and enjoy the good Fortune tone.
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