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Get ready to be amazed by the Wizard of Weird
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Speaker 1 (01:23):
I am Joshua be Warren, and each week on this show,
I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises,
and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more. On this edition of the show, I was
trapped with a dead human and here's what happened. I

guess you could say it's sort of like story time
here on the podcast. And I know that some of
you have possibly heard me tell this story before here
or there. It's one of those stories that I'll just
never forget. And I thought of this because, you know,

I have been experimenting recently with my new portal opening
device that I intend to use eventually at my property
near Area fifty one, and I haven't explained how this
device is intended to work, but it does involve some chemistry,
and I've never been great at chemistry, so I'm having
to go back and learn and relearn some things. And

this made me think of this story, and eventually you'll
see why how it all connects. When I was in
high school, one of my friends introduced me to one
of his friends, who is this older guy. And we'll
call the older guy Jim. So here, I am in

my teens. I don't know, I'm probably like maybe seventeen
or something like that, and Jim was in his twenties.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
It seems like there are always these guys who they
graduate from high school and they want to go back
and hang out with high school kids.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Again, you know.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
So this was what Jim was like. He was the
older guy who could buy the beer, and he was
really into paranormal and macob stuff. And so when we met,
I mean, he was always wanting to go out and
investigate stuff, and we became friends. He looked the part.
He always wore a big, long trench coat. He loved

the Highlander movie. And one of the things that was
especially notable about Jim is that he worked at a
funeral home there in western North Carolina. That's where I
grew up. So he worked at this funeral home, and
he worked there for quite a while, and he did

a very good job. In fact, another bigger funeral home
offered him a job for more pay, and so he
took that job. So when he was working at the
second funeral home, his job was really quite intense because
they would have a little cottage basically there on the

property where he would live on the property, and he
was on call basically twenty four to seven. So in
the middle of the night, you know, his phone rang
and they said you got to go pick up a body.
He would get dressed and he would hit the road
and go get this body and bring it back and
start the processing of the body. And so he also

of course had fortunately a lot of time when he
was just sitting around and he had after said dead
time on his hands. Okay, I'm sorry, I didn't mean
for that pun, but he did have dead time on
his hands, and he liked to invite his friends over
to play role playing games like D and D, like
Dungeons and Dragons, and I had never even played that

game until I met him, and it was fun. I
never really got into it, like a bunch of you know,
my friends did. But anyway, so we'd go over there
to this funeral home and sit around in this kind
of like a break room area, and he would always
order a pizza. And every single time he would order

a pizza, the pizza restaurant would think it was a
prank when he orders a pizza to the funeral home,
and they always thought it was a prank, and he
had to convince them. And you know, you can imagine
these like sheepish pizza delivery guys popping up at the
funeral home late at night, not knowing who's going to

open the door. You know what it's going to be like.
And so that was kind of a fun and interesting
little thing that they came along with that friendship. And
it was also it was pretty bizarre to be sitting
there eating pizza next to a room that was full
of dead bodies, so that kind of sets the stage

for you. Well, one night, Jim, he I guess he'd
made arrangements for somebody to cover some time for him,
and he asked me if I wanted to go with
him to see a movie. So I said sure, So
I went over to the funeral home and he said

that he wanted to take a quick shower. Don't blame him.
And in the meantime, now, this was probably like a
three story funeral home, very elaborate, and I, since I
was quite young, have enjoyed playing the piano. And so

in one of the rooms upstairs, on like the third floor,
where they would carry out funerals, they had this nice, big,
fancy organ. So I told Jim while he was in
the shower that I was going to go up and
play this organ. And we were the only two people
on the property. So he's downstairs somewhere near his little cottage,

taking a shower. I go upstairs and go into this room,
turn on the lights, go over, sit down, fire up
this organ, and I'm playing in a takata and fugue
and d minor. I'm having a ball. This is probably
like a thirty at night, it was dark, so I

get right in the middle of playing some piece of
music and all of a sudden power goes out absolutely dark, okay,
just nothing but complete darkness, power outage. So I sit
there for a little bit waiting to see if my
eyes are going to adjust, and they really weren't adjusting,

and so finally I get up and I go, well,
I'm going to work my way over toward the door
here and start hollering for Jim to see if he's
got a flashlight or something, figuring he might still be
in the shower. I don't know, so basically what happened
is here I am walking around in absolute pitch blackness,
feeling my way around this floor, being very careful and

because I don't want to fall down any stairs, and
there are no emergency exit lights like you would expect,
and I knew there were multiple rooms, and basically here
I am. I'm just trying to find an exit somewhere,
and all of a sudden, I put my hands down
and there is the unmistakable sensation of my hands on

a dead man's face. And it's very difficult to try
to describe the instantaneous jolt of adrenaline that you get
when you realize that you are in a room all
alone and pitch blackness with your hands on a corpse's face.
And I spun around and I went scrambling just in

the opposite direction. I'm tripping over chairs. I mean, I
didn't care if I fell downstairs. I just I just
wanted to get out of there. It'd freaked me out.
And so finally I did work my way down to
some stairs and I heard voice and I kind of
followed his voice a little bit, and sure enough he

had a flashlight and helped guide me down, and you know,
the whole neighborhood had lost power, and I was I
mean again, I was really surprised at how freaky that
experience was. And mind you again, you know, I'd had
some exposure to dead bodies already, and not just you know,

having gone to funerals and what not in my own life,
but I mean, there with these these corpses of strangers around,
you know, eating the pizza. And I even had a
couple of occasions when I was allowed to watch some
of these bodies being embalmed. And apparently this guy who
was upstairs and later Tim took me upstairs when the

lights were on and showed it to me. And he
was a guy who was prepped for his funeral in
the morning and there was an open casket and all that,
and so that's why he was there. But I did
watch bodies being embalmed sometimes when I was over there,
and it was it was gross, and it was fascinating.

And I started thinking about the chemicals associated with life
and how that you know, when you die, you instantly
begin to deteriorate, and yet they can take you and
fill you with this stuff called embalming fluid and then
it stops that process. It's almost like it's halting death.

It's I don't want to say it's giving life, but
it feels like there's something mystical happening. And so I started,
you know, since I'm investigating and learning more about chemicals
and stuff, I thought to myself, I wonder exactly how
embalming fluid works. Do you know, Well, when we come
back from this break, I'm going to tell you what
I learned about embalming fluid. And then that led me

down a rabbit hole into other interesting chemicals and then
all ties in again to some of the experiments that
I'm doing. And I promise they don't involve dead bodies,
and then some experiments that other people have done, however,
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bet that some of you listening to this show right
now have done that, or maybe are doing it as

I speak.

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And you know, it.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
May be that that experience that I had made an
impact on my interest in the unknown and in the
idea of an afterlife and what happens to us when
we die. I wonder if you sit around with dead
bodies all the time, if that gives you more or

less sensitivity to the power of life and then the miracle,
the magical thing that life is. Well, as I told you,
I got to see how that this very strange process
works where in which a body is sometimes embalmed and

then it just doesn't rot away like an unembalmed body.
And so I'd never really looked into exactly how that
supposedly works. And here's what I discovered. When you start
reading about it, it actually is quite technical, and so
I'm not going to get that deep into it. But

the basically, embalming chemicals are a variety of preservatives, sanitizing
and disinfectant agents and additives used in modern embalming to
temporarily prevent decomposition and restore a natural appearance for viewing
a body after death. A mixture of these chemicals is

known as embalming fluid and is used to preserve bodies
of deceased persons for both funeral purposes and in medical
research and anatomical laboratories. The period for which a body
is embalmed is dependent on time, expertise of the embalmer,
and factors regarding duration of stay and purpose. Now, a

lot of you might think that embalming fluid is the
same thing as form aldehyde, but it turns out that's
not actually the entire case, says. Embalming fluid contains a
mixture of formaldehyde, methanol, glue, taral de hide, I don't
know how to pronounce that, and other solvents. And basically

what they're saying here is that that essentially there's a
combination of things, including formaldehyde, that it is you that
are used in embalming, and that it really just kind
of depends on the person and the circumstances, so it's
not like there's one substance that's used in every case.

But when you start looking into how it works, embalming
fluids act to denature cellular proteins, meaning that they cannot
act as a nutrient source for bacteria. Basically, what they're
saying here what I've gathered is and again I'm not

gonna even pretend that I understand the chemistry of all this,
but this fluid goes in and it somehow by it up,
it binds to these amino acids in your body, and
it changes the structure of the proteins so that everything
becomes more rigid and hesitant or I guess I should

say resistant to bacteria. So it kind of hardens things
up so that the bacteria cannot really work on it
as well, and it also kills most of the bacteria.
So really it's all about just making the proteins and
whatnot in the body more resistant to bacteria and killing

the bacteria. And that's just sort of how it works.
And so you know, it's wrong, of course to think
about this as some kind of a life giving substance,
but it is a very interesting idea that the bodies
can be preserved this way. There's not much more to
say about it, really, but I started reading about how

that this kind of thing can preserve the appearance of life,
and then I started thinking about other substances. Some substances
like the fromaldehyde, the embalming fluid, they preserved that appearance
of life, But then what about things other substances you
could take to quickly kill you. I was reading about

this serial killer recently named Leonard Lake, and he was
arrested in the nineteen eighties, and when they took him
into the interrogation room, apparently they left him alone for
a few minutes, so when they came back in, he's
kicking around and violently convulsing on the floor, and they

took him to the hospital and he died. Turns out
that this guy had sewn cyanide pills into his clothes
and just expecting that one day this would happen, you
get caught, and so he was able to those out
and eat those pills and commit suicide right there. And

so I you know, he had a military background by
the way, But I started thinking about, like, well, what
is it about cyanide that just so quickly destroys tissue
and kills people or something, because you always hear about
like these old spies and stuff, they give them cyanide pills.
Supposedly if they get captured they don't get tortured that
you know, they can they can do that. So I

got online and I started looking up like how does
cyanide work? And surprisingly, the first thing that pops up
when you do that is a bunch of like suicide
prevention information call now for help, which I found odd
because I I can't remember hearing of anybody, you know,

like a regular person in modern day decided to commit
suicide by cyanide. But I guess there are people who
who decide that they want to go that way. And
you know, there's this idea that well, if you take
sinid like you're captured, then it's going to be you know,
a more peaceful experience. But I found this article that

I felt you'd find interesting lab roots dot com, written
by Anthony Bouchard, and he says here, Cyanide is a
lethal chemical that was commonly used in suicidal pills throughout
World War II to prevent captured spies and high government
officials from leaking their country's secrets to the enemy. And

he says although sinide pills were deemed a quote quick
and painless death at the time, modern science now shows
us this was not the case. Instead, those who took
them probably experienced along an agonizing death. Cyanide works by
blocking a sales ability to produce a thing called ATP

and this this is a source of energy used by
your body to perform a lot of natural functions regarding
breathing and muscle usage. And when a person ingests a
lethal dose of cyanide, the body cells just suddenly stop
producing ATP, so the muscle cells don't get the energy
they need and the person experiences all kinds of contractions.

And he says here, your lungs, diaphragm, and heart are
pure muscle, and when they can no longer function, you
won't be able to breathe so you get cardiac arrest.
The length of time it takes for sinide to kill
a person ranges from around two to five minutes, and
during this timeframe they're fully conscious and experience every bit

of the chemicals effects. Sinide acts fast because its molecules
are tiny, allowing it to spread through the body rapidly
and efficiently. But the guy says, on the other hand,
a conscious death lasting two to five minutes will feel
like an eternity for the affected person. So cyanide poisoning

should be considered one of the world's least preferred ways
of dying. It sounds pretty horrible, doesn't it, That you're
laying there for minutes as this absolute havoc is being
reeked on your body. And so that made me think

more about these other kinds of substances that we fear
putting into our bodies. And as I'm doing these experiments
right now with my new portal opening machine, I'll just
tell you one of the components that I am using
for the machine is liquid mercury. And a lot of

people fear liquid mercury. And they talk about not eating
too many fish and stuff because you don't want to
get you know, and you know, it's poisonous in various ways.
So I figured I'd better learn more about this, and
so when we come back from this break, I'm going
to tell you some of the things that I've learned
about liquid mercury. Uh, why is this pervasive? Why do

fish have mercury in them? And you know, how how
has this evolved so that it's such a dangerous thing.
You have to be careful about it, especially if you're
pregnant or something like that. And that will tie into
some mystical elements of mercury, which will lead me to, Well,

one of the things that I've been wanting to bring
up on this show for a while an experiment, and
I'm not going to do this. It's an experiment that's
already been done about whether or not we can measure
life when someone dies. Is there some change there scientifically

that we can look at that we've never looked at before.
And I you know, we've got great technology now, it
can do some amazing stuff. Maybe we need to start
applying it in some different arenas of research. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast

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Speaker 1 (27:36):
Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua
pe Warren, and this is the show where the unusual
becomes usual. Yeah. I am incorporating some liquid mercury into

one of my experiments right now, and I have to
be careful, And I mean, how much do you really
know about mercury. Well, mercury is a chemical element. Its
symbol is HG atomic number eighty. It is also known
as quicksilver and was formerly named hydrar gyrum the Greek

words hydraur for water and arguos for silver, So that's
why HG is the symbol and it's a heavy silvery
d block element. Mercury is the only metallic element that
is known to be liquid at standard temperature and pressure.

It occurs in deposits throughout the world, mostly as cinnabar,
and of course we all know it's been used in thermometers, barometers,
all kinds of valves, switches, fluorescent lamps. But you hear
about the scary stuff all the time. You gotta be

worried about mercury. And so I wanted to look into
this and figure out, like, well, you hear if you
eat too much fish, you might get too much mercury
and it's bad for you. So where does all that
mercury come from that ends up in fish? I didn't know.

So I found some interesting articles. One of them is
from foodprint dot org written by Peter Hanlon, and he
talks about how especially expectant mothers and parents of young
children no to limit certain seafood intake to avoid high
levels of mercury. And he says mercury itself is not

a boogeyman. It occurs naturally at low levels in rock, soil,
and water throughout the world, but human activities have increased
total mercury concentrations in the atmosphere by about four hundred
and fifty percent above natural levels, to dangerous levels for
humans if it ends up in their systems in the

wrong way. And he says of the sources of the
human caused mercury emission, burning of fossil fuels like cold
let's use me like coal, and gold mining are often responsible,
and that once the mercury is in the atmosphere, it
can travel for thousands of miles and then will eventually

make its way into the oceans or large bodies of water,
either by being deposited there or on land and getting
washed downstream. And in this form, mercury poses little danger
because living things can get rid of it quite quickly.
But bacteria then convert this mercury as it sort of

streams down toward the ocean and turns it into this
highly toxic form called methylmercury, and then the food chain
takes it from there. This gets absorbed by phytoplankton, little
microscopic marine algae, and those things are eaten by larger plankton,

and then those are eaten by little fish, and then
those little fish are eaten by bigger fish, and they
get eaten by bigger fish, and as it goes back
up the food chain, these bigger fish start getting more
of this mercury built up on their body. So the
bigger the fish, the longer it lives and the more

it eats, and larger fish accumulate a lot more of
this methyl mercury in their bodies. So the largest predatory
fish in the sea, like sharks, swordfish, tuna, can have
a lot of methyl mercury concentration in their muscles. In
some cases it's ten million times higher than those of

the surrounding habitat. It's really interesting, And of course, he says,
of course, who is higher than the largest fish on
the food chain, Well humans. So if you just follow
the food chain, well, you know, seafood is the source
of nearly all the methyl mercury that we acquire in
our bodies. But it obviously has much more of a

risk for you know, like fetuses, infants, children, growing brains,
developing nervous systems. So how to reduce the intake, he says,
First off, since fish pretty much all fish contain at
least traces of this, what you do is just you
be particular about what fish you eat and how much,

not to avoid seafood altogether, just to avoid seafood that's
high on the food chain. So if you think back
to this, you know, the big fish eating the smaller fish,
it makes sense to eat the fish or shellfish that
are lower on the food chain, and you are bioaccumulating
much less mercury. That's interesting, isn't it That you can

just think of the size of the fish and its
position on the food chain and whether or not it's
good or bad for you to eat it. And then
of course I started wondering about like, well, okay, well
what happens if you do get mercury poisoning, Because there
are these different forms of mercury, and you know some

are worse than others. But basically, if you start accumulating
too much mercury in your system, common symptoms are peripheral neuropathy.
That means suddenly you start getting tingling and numbness in
your extremities. It can also feel like an itching or
a burning or a pain, or even a sensation that

resembles small insects crawling on or under your skin. You
also get skin discoloration, like in cheeks, fingertips, and toes, swelling, shedding,
and peeling of skin. Children may also have like loss
of hair, teeth, nails, sensitivity to light, and this stuff

it starts affecting your kidneys. And so if you don't
pick up on the fact that you're getting this mercury,
too much mercury in your system, you know, long term
exposure to this to you, to your for your nervous
system and your organs will will lead to death if
not treated. So the good news is it's not like

if you break a vial of mercury and it splatters
on you that oh you're you're a dead man. Uh,
But you know, you definitely have to be careful when
you're working with this stuff. And one thing that I
thought was especially interesting is that you've heard me talk
about this before. I wrote about this in my book

The Secret Wisdom of Kucko Kon that when it comes
to mercury in general, mercury it seems to have a
reputation for being something kind of magical because rivers of
it were found in this or supposedly are in this
tomb of this great Chinese emperor. Samples of this have

been found in many pyramids around the world. They find
them in these Mayan ball filleds, and nobody can explain
exactly even how it was refined and got there. If
you look back at some of the ancient Hindu texts
where they talk about the the imanas, they supposedly had

some type of swirling, liquid mercury type substance that would
be used so that these UFOs could fly around. I've
talked before about Deglaka, this device that the Nazis were
supposedly working on, shape like a large metal bell that
had these liquid mercury like motors inside that would create

some sort of some kind of anti gravity effect. And
also when I was in Belize, I was talking to
a Mayan descendant who said that it was not uncommon
in the old days for a Mayan shaman to prove
his worth by literally poking a little hole in one

of his veins and dropping a little liquid mercury in
there and letting it flow through his veins, and that
if you didn't get sick and die, well, then you
were a very powerful spiritual guide in shaman. And I
don't know how often people live through that, But this
is such an interesting subject because I do believe there's

some connection between metaphysical phenomena, paranormal phenomena, and the manipulation
of liquid mercury. And if you have never listened to
episode seventy two of this podcast called Strange Things, you
must go do it. It's called one of the wildest
stories I've ever heard, and it's about liquid mercury and

about this place here in Nevada called fittingly enough, Mercury, Nevada,
and what a scientist told me about experiments they do
with liquid mercury in order to turn it into a
living being with a consciousness that sometimes escapes from the
lab and they have to run out and chase it down.

And it looks like, of all things, a big blue bunny. Now,
how do we explain all this? I'm not sure, But
isn't it interesting that we've gone from this idea of
thinking about chemicals and chemistry and how it affects the
body leading us down this path toward mercury And then

a scientist saying, oh yeah, and by the way, you
can take mercury and manipulate it a certain way and
create a living being out of it. This is very
weird stuff. And so as I'm experimenting with my new device,
these things are running through my head. But when we
come back from this break, I want to tell you

about this experiment that you've probably heard of to determine
whether or not there is some physical life force that
can be measured leaving the body right when you die. Yes,
I'm talking about the twenty one grams experiment and some

of my thoughts on that, the work done by doctor
Duncan McDougall, and what's this relationship between I don't know, mind, body, spirit, environment.
What kind of role do chemicals possibly play in all this?
What experiments can we do define the connections. It's all

too much, but it is strange. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
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Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of
Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
para normal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,
And you probably know that liquid mercury was used all
the time and thermometers back in the day not so

much anymore. Occasionally you'll still find a specialized laboratory thermometer
that uses liquid mercury for one reason or another. And
it's funny because I was thinking about that, and I
don't know if I've mentioned this on this show before,
but if you know, if I have, it was probably

pretty fleeting. Of course, living here in Las Vegas. In
a couple of hours, I can be in Death Valley, California,
where the highest record temperature was recorded one hundred and
thirty four degrees fahrenheit. That's fifty seven degree celsius back

in nineteen thirteen. So yeah, one hundred and thirty four
degrees fahrenheit. And so if you drive from Vegas to
that part of California, you pass through Baker, California, and
there you will find the world's tallest thermometer. This is

a landmark there. It's like a roadside attraction. And because
that temperature was one hundred and thirty four degrees, well,
this thermometer on the side of the road is one
hundred and thirty four feet tall and it was built
in nineteen ninety one by the Young Electric Sign Company

for a man named Willis Baker I'm sorry, a man
named Willis Herron who was a Baker businessman, and he
had this restaurant called called bun Boy apparently, and he
spent seven hundred thousand dollars which is more like one
and a half million dollars today to build this thermometer.

And it's fully functional. They have a gift shop there.
And I bring this up because it's just such an obscure,
you know, like off the wall thing, the world's tallest thermometer,
that I found out that at one point they had
to pretty much like remodel or renovate this thing. It

got damage, winds blew it over, and so you actually
can go and buy one of the light bulbs that
was used in the world's tallest thermometer. And so I
went and I bought one. Of course, it's part of
my collection of weird things, right next to a little
statue of the world's tallest thermometer, right next to a

snow globe that has the world's tallest thermometer inside of it.
And if you want to see that stuff, it's in
the video that I shot recently. If you go to
YouTube and just type in Joshua P. Warren, I have
a channel, the Joshua pe Warren channel, and one of
the recent videos is from late twenty twenty three where

I walked around and showed off some of the weird
stuff in my personal collection, and part of it is
world's largest thermometer stuff. But okay, getting back to this
mystery about the connection between life and physical substances and
physical energies, I'm sure you've probably heard that some people

believe that the human soul weighs twenty one grams, and
in fact, let's see what is twenty one grams and
ounces that is it's about three quarters of an ounce.
So that gives you an idea of maybe the weight

if you drink out of a shot glass, you know,
I imagine the shot glasses. I don't know, maybe like
half full or something. But it refers to this experiment,
this scientific study published in nineteen oh seven by Duncan MacDougall,
a physicist in Massachusetts. I'm sorry. He was actually a physician,

not a physicist, and he hypothesized that souls have physical
weight and attempted to measure the mass loss by a
human when the soul departed the body, and he attempted
to measure the mass change of six patients at the
moment of death. He would put the person on a

big scale of some kind and make sure that all
the bodily fluids and everything else were captured on that scale,
and then see what happened at the moment of death.
And so he did this to six people, and apparently
one of the six subjects lost three quarters of an ounce,

which is twenty one point three grams. That's what he said,
and he stated his experiment would have to be repeated
many times before any conclusion could be obtained. And his
experiment is widely regarded as flawed and unscientific due to
the very small sample size some of the methods used,

and as well as the fact that only one of
the six subjects met the hypothesis. So a lot of
people say this is a case of selective reporting. But
despite people within the scientific community, you know, rejecting this,
his experiment popularized the concept that the soul has weight,

and that it weighs approximately twenty one grams. Now, I
have not heard of anybody in the modern era trying
to reproduce such an experiment. Let's face reality here. Look,
I understand all the problems doing this with humans, but

we eat a lot of meat in this country every day,
a lot of cows, a lot of chickens, a lot
of turkeys, and obviously none of these slaughterhouses want to
have cameras nearby, but this might be an opportunity. I
believe that an animal has a soul or a spirit

if a human does. Some people disagree with that. I
think that there's no difference biologically that should determine that
we have something that they don't, and so I think
it would be interesting to see this kind of thing
reproduced with animals. But I mean I'm not talking killing animals.
I mean, if you're going to kill an animal anyway,

if you're in a slaughterhouse and you're going to do
it anyway, is it possible to incorporate this experiment? But
is it also possible that you could do the same
thing with plants? A plant is a living thing. Does
a plant have a soul or a spirit? Can you
measure something leaving a plant? Now that would be very,
very minuscule, But you know, we have such technology now

that I feel that well, Like, for example, I have
this high speed camera. They can shoot something like I
believe it's a thousand frames per second, so I not
too long ago, I pointed this camera at the sky
over Vegas, and within I just shot like a three
second clip, and then afterward I captured two UFOs zipping
around that we're moving too fast for the human eye

to see, because that's what happens with the high speed camera.
It slows things down into a range so that you
can see them. And I think it would be interesting
to just take a high speed camera and you know,
just clip some plants and see if there's something that
shows up. Can you think of any other types of

cameras that haven't been used to try to capture some
vision of the human spirit or or the plant spirit,
or any of this stuff. I wonder about that. I
wonder if it's been done, but it's been too controversial,
and so it gets done behind closed doors. Let me
squeeze in a listener email. I will not use this

man's name. He says. I live in Maryland and he
is a personal trainer and musician. He says, I am
having negative energy in the house, and I feel there
is something behind it that's very detrimental to me and
my wife, she's from Honduras. We smudge the house with
traditional sage, et cetera, and I ask its name tonight,

try to open up communication. And something that came through
very clear was oh bazu, A bazu, he says, never
heard before. And he says, now, this thing called pazuzu
possessed me when I was fourteen in a classroom and

chairs flew around the room and the chalkboard was filled
with ancient Hebrew from end of the days. And this
is by no means some joke. I thought this was
way behind me and I want to have a family
with my wife. Will you please consider helping me. I
listen to you and respect you so much. Can I
beat this thing or not? Well, let me just say
that here's the reality. Well, Zozo is a name that,

of course Darren Evans talked about being some kind of
a demonic force, and I just really don't know if
we're talking about the same thing. I know Pazuzu goes
back to the Exorcist movie. It's been fictionalized, but I
gave him the same advice that I'll give anybody who
listens to this. I did a podcast all about how
to prevent or create paranormal activity. It's episode eleven this

podcast called Strange Things. And if you think that you're
having some issues. And I'm not a ghostbuster, I'm not
an exorcistem but if you think you're having an issue,
or if you have a friend who's having an issue,
go listen to episode eleven of this show, Strange Things.
It's totally free. But one of the best things we
can all do is try to end the show together

with the positive mindset. Take a deep breath, relax. Here
is the good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition

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