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can do at home and a lot more. And on
this edition of the show, the last werewolf and time
travel cameras. How's that for a combo? Welcome to My Brain. Well,
here is a surprise. I am about to go live
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in the field to my great old buddy, investigator Forrest Connor,
who is standing right now by himself at two thirty
in the morning, in the extremely dark countryside. Venograph a
small rural village in Germany, and I have no idea
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if I'm pronouncing that village name correctly. Uh. Forest is
standing at a shrine where the Morbach Monster, the last
werewolf in Germany, was slaughtered in the eighteen hundreds. That's
what they say now before I go live to Forest
and I pray to God he's still there. Here is
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my understanding of the story the legend Uh. The Great
and dreadful General Napoleon was born in seventeen sixty nine
and died in eighteen twenty one. There was a deserter
from his army, a Frenchman named Thomas Schweitzer, and he
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teamed up with some Russians, also deserters. And while these
desperate men were passing by the village of Whitlick or
Vittlick there in Germany Uh, they saw a farm house
and decided to rate it, and the farmer and his
sons tried to defend the property, but they were murdered,
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and before they killed her, the farmer's wife cursed Schweitzer.
She screamed something like, you're no better than a dirty wolf,
and that is what you will always deserve to be,
you know, something along those lines. And apparently he bashed
in her skull after that curse. So over the following years,
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Schwitzer gradually becomes literally more and more wolf like. He
He became more sort of hunched and harry. He robs, steals, murders.
He becomes so evil that even other bandits won't be
around him. So he starts living deeper and deeper in
the thick forests of Germany. Well, soon they're all these
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legends of this wolf that walks like a man throughout
the countryside. People and livestock and dogs are constantly found
torn to shreds. And one night the wolf like Schwitzer
stumbles out of the woods and seized the daughter of
a local farmer and assaults here. And a few days
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later a group of villagers found his camp fire and
chased him toward the area called Morbach. Fortunately they killed him,
we don't know exactly how, But after they killed him,
they buried his despicable body at a road crossing there
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some crossroads, and and knowing how evil he was, they
asked a minister to keep his spirit at bay, and
so they built a shrine at that spot to hold
him down forever. And the minister put a candle in
that shrine and said that this candle should burn constantly
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twenty four seven and for all time, and that if
the people ever neglected the power of God and let
that candle go out, the monster would return. And so
the people did a reliable job of keeping that flame
burning until okay, big fast forward nine um. Supposedly, one evening,
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a group of Air Force personnel in that area were
we're returning to their base at more Back, and as
they passed the shrine, they noticed the candle was out,
and they laughed and joked about the werewolf returning, but
they did not relight that candle. So that night at
the base, all the automatic sirens started firing and all
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the sensors around the fences were triggered. And one MP
swore that he saw a big creature like go wolf
standing on his hind legs running around the base, and
that wolfie thing jumped over a tin foot fence without
any problem. So they brought out dogs, but when the
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dogs got near where the creature was seen, they turned
back and would not go any further. Well, the military
personnel ReLit the candle in the shrine immediately, and all
that activity stopped immediately. And that is as far as
I know the story of the Monster of Morbach in Germany.
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So now let me switch to my live feed to
Germany with Forest. So investigator Forest Connor is out there
in the field right now and the western part of Germany,
not too far from Belgium and France, in this tiny
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little village called vine Groff. I guess that's how you
pronounce it, Forest. What are you doing there at two
thirty in the morning, Hey, Josh, how are you tonight?
I am safe and sound, but it sounds like you're
putting yourself in jeopardy as usual. Oh, of course, of course,
I'm actually over here in the village of vine Growth.
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I don't know if you gave any history and anything
before you introde me or not, but basically I'm here
the shrine of the Monster of more Back or the
more Boch monster. Now for one thing, just to give
everybody an idea, you sent me a picture of the shrine.
And how big is this thing? It's probably no more
than probably four ft wide by probably maybe maybe ten
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ft tall. Okay, so, and it's sort of like a
little concrete building that has sort of an alcove with
a domed ceiling and it's just big enough for a
plant and then an altar, and there's a painting on
the back. There's a crucifix there, and of course at
the very center is this candle which is supposed to
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burn seven because the people there believe this will keep
a werewolf away. Is that right? That is correct? The
werewolf is gone as the monster of Morbach, And legend
goes that back around in the early eight hundreds there
was a woman um put a curse on a gentleman
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who who um who burned her farm down and killed
her husband and eventually killed her and said basically, you
know what, every full moon, you're going to become a werewolf.
And the village the guy went off and did his thing,
but the village people end up catching up with him
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after he had his way with one of the young
ladies here in town. They end up killing him and
putting the shrunk trina because in the meantime, after the
woman cursed him, he had been or a wolf like
creature had been seen all over this the more back
area here. So now, how would you describe the landscape
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around you? Right? Now, it's got to be kind of spooky,
i'd imagine, uh, you know, honestly, right now, I know
you've done some stuff on on the moon lately everything,
But I'm sitting here looking at the moon right now.
It's a half it's almost right out a half moon
right now. But it's eerily quiet. You know. I almost
feel like, you know, I don't want to sound crazy,
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but I almost feel like something or someone is watching me.
Are there thick woods around you? Or I mean, what's
the general setting like? It's it's sort of a valley area. Yes,
there are some thick woods around, but there's there's the
valley here which which pretty much has a couple of
little towns in it, and then the town that I'm
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in right now vone graph it's I would say it's
approximately yeah, five blocks by three blocks. There's not much
to it, but as you're you're just typical looking German
to Germantown and so, and then just sort of off
the side of the road, here's this shrine. Yeah. Well,
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what they have here is um I forget the German
translations support, but it's called little holy houses and they're
sort of all over the area here in Germany if
you if you look hard enough for him. There's probably
maybe another one in the town of Morbok itself that
I've visited, and then I was in Remstein there was
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one over there, So they're sort of dotted all over
the landscape, but this one particular is dedicated to the
Monster of morbok Okay, folks, I am sorry, I have
to jump in here for a minute and it's time
for us to take a break. Forest is gonna hang
on there, and uh, hopefully he will be there when
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we come back, because I want to ask him just
how seriously uh that people in the area take these stories.
And furthermore, what exactly is he planning on doing there tonight?
Would you go out there by yourself like Forest is doing,
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and you know, hanging out at this spot where anything
could pounce on you could jump out of the woods.
He's an adventurous guy. I have known Forest for a
long long time and we've had a lot of crazy
adventures together, so there's no telling what he's going to
get into. Um, all right, let me just tell you
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Joshua P. Warren, beaming in to your wormhole brain from
my studio and Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every
day is golden and every night is silver. But far
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far away. Tonight we have Mr Forrest Connor live in
the field in Germany. I'm going to switch back to
my live feed with him right now, give me a
couple of seconds and here we go. Now, one of
the accounts that you sent was a very believable accounts
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about that candle going out and this werewolf appearing. Um,
do you get the sense that people in the community
really take this seriously? Well, you know, that's one thing
I ran into is like, you know, I first heard
about this Monster of more Back about six or seven
months ago. In fact, I called you and said, hey, Josh,
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I'm going to check out this place called, um the
Shrine to the Monster of more Back. I figured, okay, fine,
I'll gotta check it out. Well, you know, every time
I brought it up to somebody, they would sort of
give me the cold shoulder and just clam up and
not really want to talk about it, which which was
odd to me. But also I don't know if this
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goes goes into the thing. Also with the most of
the accounts I found on online where I said it
was in the village of Whittlets or Vitledge, I don't
know which one you would say. And I don't know
if that's a way to try to keep people from
going to this one certain shrine or not. But yeah,
it's it's just kind of weird how everybody talked to
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really really did not want to talk about it. So
you're out there by yourself at two thirty in the morning,
looking at this candle flickering in this shrine, and you
know whether there's a werewolf around or not. I mean,
are you are you at all concerned that there might
just be crazy people who hang out around there and
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might use this as an opportunity to to to snatch
a victim tonight? I mean, are you a little freaked
out being out there by yourself? I mean, that's always
a concern. But you know what, I've got my bicycle here,
I rendered one from the hotel i'm at, and you
know what, I feel confident. There's a downhill slope here.
I can get away pretty quick if I need to.
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So forest you and I have been friends for a
long long time. Yeah, I know that you have a
bit of a mischievous streak, and I am thinking that
you're looking at that candle right now and you really
want to see a werewolf so you can posted on
Facebook or whatever look at the werewolf. Well, let me
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stop you right there. You know, there was one thing
I was kind of disappointed in it's like, of course,
and you know with modern times now, it's no, no,
they're no longer wax candles. There are those little electronic
take candles that you see, you see everywhere now, which
is kind of disappointing. But but guess what, I brought
a wax candle. Okay, and I've got it right here.
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So what do you plan to do? Well, I'm gonna
light the wax candle and I'm gonna just leave it
and see what happens and see if it's still burning
in the more ing or m tomorrow evening when I
come back. Although I am tempted. I am tempted. Actually,
I'm lifting up that candle right now, Josh, I'm tempted
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to turn this candle off and just see what happens. Well,
you look, you and I both would would love to
see a werewolf. Uh. I would especially love to see
it from where I'm sitting here in Las Vegas. I
don't know if you want to see it since you're
standing next to the woods firm it's coming. But but
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I mean, I mean, I kind of feel like, I mean,
maybe the fate of this community is literally hanging in
the balance. Uh. And if you start, you know, messing around,
you know, tampering with that. Hold on, Actually, there's a
lid on this candle that it's not letting me take.
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Take the lid off. The candle is lor camels lid inside,
and there's a little cross on top of the lid.
But it's not letting me. It's not coming all Hi. Yeah,
let's let's not let's not tamper with that. I don't
want anything on my conscience if this werewolf appears, and
you don't either, But um, I'll tell you what you know,
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Let's let's keep it like it is. We don't want
to be disrespectful. We don't want anybody to think that
we're messing with their customs. But but um, let's keep
a close eye on this and see because we know
that eventually, eventually, whether the candles electric or not, you know,
it has to go some time. I just heard something
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over here in the bushes. Okay, Like what it's I
don't know if it's a squirrel or it's some kind
of rustling. Okay, Well, are you gonna be hanging out
there a little longer tonight? I'm gonna try to hang
out here for another hour, So yeah, Okay, well, I'll
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tell you. I just get back with me if anything
else happens. And uh, I know that you're you're going
to be exploring Germany quite a bit the rest of
this year, I think, so, I'm sure this wants to
be your last trip to this shrine. That's true. Alright,
Well Forest, Uh did you bring any silver with you
by chance? Josh? You know me, I always carry silver. Okay,
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that's good, Shelley, Right, we'll be happy to hear that.
All right, man, Well, thank you for this field report.
And uh, you know you're you're you're a daring guy
and we we don't want to lose you. But um
keep us updated, all right, buddy, I will indeed, all right,
thanks Forest. Hey, I'm gonna light this candle real quick,
and uh and to sit here for a little bit
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and I'll let you know what's going on. Okay, all right,
that's your decision. All right, thank you sir, all right,
thank you Forest. Well you have it alive. Report from
investigator Forest Connor at one of the strangest and perhaps
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scariest places on Earth. You know, they say you have
to have a screw loose to do paranormal investigation. And uh,
I mean, would you be out there alone right now
like he is. I mean think about that. So hey,
I will keep you updated. So thank you again to
Forest for that daring report. One of the things that
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I love so much about these legends, and I was
thinking about this as I was listening to Forest, is that,
you know, we may never be able to go back
in time and see some of these extraordinary events that
supposedly played out, and so the closest thing that we
have is is legend and oral tradition, and you know,
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things that have sort of just been passed down from
person to person. And I've always thought, though, wouldn't it
be the most astounding thing if you somehow had a
technology or at least some ability, you know, to go
back in time just to see what really happened. I
mean not to literally travel back in time like Michael J.
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Fox and back to the future, but I mean just
to be able to look back in time. All we
know about history is what people wrote down or what
scientists can interpret from little bits and pieces of evidence.
But what if we could look back into the past.
You know. One of the big reasons I became involved
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in ghost research was that I always thought about how
wondrous it would be if somehow things that happened in
the past we're being recorded in the environment and could
be accessed later. I mean, that is what a lot
of ghostly phenomena appears to be on the surface. You know,
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some people call it a residual or or place memory,
but you know that there's some some aspect of the
environment that records things. You could even take this to
a larger scale and talk about, you know, the idea
of the acautionic record, some great library where all things
are stored. But if we had the ability, if if
we studied ghost research, for example, and we were able
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to create some kind of a device, a camera, a
TV or whatever that could they can allow you to
tune through these recordings in the environment and see things
that happened in the past. Imagine the implications. Imagine if
you really could see history as it actually occurred. For
one thing, it would up end so many traditions that
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are built upon a particular narrative of what happened. But
just think of the privacy issues. I mean, imagine if
someone could go back and see everything you've ever done.
Imagine going into a seed hotel room with some kind
of device like this TV that you could use to
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scroll back channel by channel through the years or the months,
or the weeks or the days or the minutes and
and and sort of see what happened in that room.
It would be a privacy catastrophe. I was always struck
by the fact that, um, you know, in the Bible
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there's a quote by Jesus. Jesus says for nothing is
hidden except to be revealed, nor has anything been secret,
but that it would come to light. And that's kind
of chilling if you think that's a prophecy, like is
this is this possibly what we're talking about? Interesting that
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that is in the Bible. And I have been getting
some messages about a wondrous device the that it can
may have that would actually allow you, yes, you to
see into the past. Seriously, now leve you. I want
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to give you just some initial thoughts on this. When
you look into a mirror, you could say you're looking
into the past because the light that is coming into
your eyes it takes like a millionth of a second
to be reflected, so you're never able to even see
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yourself exactly as you look. You're always seeing yourself from
how you looked just a little bit ago and the past.
When we come back from this brig, I'll tell you
about this device that many believe the Vatican has, and
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Welcome back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio
and Coast to Coast. I am Aaron Normal podcast Network.
I am your host, Joshua pe Warren, And this is
the show where the unusual becomes usual. So, yeah, you
look into a mirror, technically you're looking into the past
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a million of a second or whatever. If you look
at stars through a telescope, you're seeing stars that may
not even exist anymore. They say the Andromeda Galaxy is
the most distant object readily visible to the naked eye.
It's two point five million light years away, So when
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you look up there, the light from it that you
see right now is two point five million years old.
So we are therefore actually seeing the androma the galaxy
as it was at a time long before modern humans
even existed. Now, for example, there's a galaxy called in
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GC and it is located sixty five million light years away,
meaning that we are seeing it as it was sixty
five million years ago, right around the time the Torontosaurus
rex went extinct. And so the finite speed of light
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has the exact same effect in the other direction. If
there are intelligent aliens in this galaxy, when they look
at the Milky Way, they are seeing our galaxy as
it was at the time of the dinosaurs. So in
principle they could see our planet as it was at
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that time. An alien on that, you know, in that
galaxy looking at our direction with see dinosaurs and maybe presume, oh,
that's a dinosaur planet and have no idea how long
ago that was. So, I mean, scientists say that stuff
is absolutely true, and I mean that alone, that's some
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crazy stuff, isn't it. But have you heard are a
a scientific field called archaeo acoustics. Archaeo acoustics. Archaeo acoustics
is the use of acoustical study as a methodological approach
within the field of archaeology. So we all know what
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an archaeologist is. Indiana Jones is a perfect realistic example, right,
and so, but imagine if you could go back and
and and you could study, you know, the acoustical information
that you get from things that were created in the past,
and you could examine well, I mean, you could just
go examine the acoustics of an archaeological site or some artifacts,
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but what if there were actual sounds that were somehow
imprinted in artifacts that could be somehow um picked up
and played back. So, for example, you know, in eighteen
seventy seven, Thomas Edison invented the phonograph, and essentially the
early model of the phonograph was just a piece of wax.
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It was like a wax cylinder, and then there was
a needle attached to a big funnel, and when you
would make a sound in the funnel, it would make
that needle vibrate. And so as the wax cylinder would spend,
the needle was traveling across it and constantly making an
impression as it was vibrating, and that impression was basically
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a recording of the vibration from the sound. So then
when you reverse the process, the needle could therefore pick
up the information from the grooves and then produce a
sound that would come back outside of the funnel or
the horn. Okay, So basically the phonograph worked by taking
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advantage of grooves that were made in a malleable material
when there was a vibration being focused. And one of
the most controversial aspects of arco acoustics is that it
may be possible that pottery that was made long ago
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still holds vibrations from the sounds that were occurring around
it when it was created. And we're talking perhaps thousands
of years ago. And this is it's it's one of
those things it's hard to study because it's almost like E.
V P. You know, the Paradoia type effect or whatever,
where people are listening to things and they're trying to
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interpret them. Um, but you know, they say that they
are voices that you can pick up from certain pieces
of pottery and things that were being made by very
skilled crafts people and uh, the machinery that was being
used to make it. I'll give you an example, would
you like to hear one of these recordings? Of course
you would. Uh. There's one that a lot of people
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talk about called the Petreka Spot. This is an urn. Uh.
Some people say this is real. Some people say, oh,
this is a hoax. But you know, the people who
believe that this is an example say that this was
an urn that was made in fifteen fifty two in Europe. Okay,
so we're talking hundreds of years ago, and that this
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urn may have captured the sounds around it as it
was molded. And so by playing this urn in a
similar fashion to playing a phonograph cylinder, Um, here's the
sound that you get. Okay, this is I'm just gonna
play this whole clip for you. It's forty three seconds. Uh.
You might actually be hearing something recorded in pottery from
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year fifteen fifty two in Europe. Listen to this. So
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what do you think about that? I mean, there are
plenty of people out there who say this is b s.
Even the myth Buster said that they could not verify this,
you know, the myth Busters TV show. But I must
remind you research is research and TV is entertainment. Trust me.
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So I mean that that doesn't necessarily resolve anything that
the myth. The MythBusters couldn't you know, confirm it, But
I mean it does give you some indication here is
it possible. Well, look, let's take this whole concept to
the next level. Because over the years I have heard about,
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you know, radionics machines that were time viewers, built by
people like George and Marjorie de la Wire. This is
a couple who supposedly photographed their wedding years after it happened, etcetera.
But all that kind of information is so anecdotal and
so unrepeatable that after years of research, I just have
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no reason to believe that it's true. It may be,
but I have I've not seen evidence of it. So
now let us come to this thing that I've been
getting messages about. It is called the Crono visor, which
basically means time viewer. Chrono is time visor, is viewer,
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time viewer. And this whole thing is it's well documented,
but it's also kind of sketchy at the same time,
because apparently this was described in detail in a book
that was published in two thousand two by father Francois Brune,
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and he wrote a book called in French now Le
Nouveau Mstaire do Vatican. And by the way, I do
not speak French, even though one of my books used
the Force, was translated into French. I mean I don't know.
I mean I could, I can. I know the phrases
that you probably know from high school, but you know,
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I've never studied French. But it was called La Nouveau
Mstaire the Vatican, which means the Vatican's New Mystery. And
this guy who was, I mean a legitimate priest, I'm
not sure if he's alive or not. Um, he he
wrote this book in French called the Vaticans New Mystery.
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And yet um, I have not been able to find
a copy of the book. I mean, it's out there,
but it's so rare that I mean, I haven't I've
not been able to find a place where I can
purchase it. And even if I got it, I don't
think it's been translated into any other language than French.
So I'm not sure I could read it. So maybe
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one of you can help me with that, you know,
if you are able to at least get a copy,
and then you know why, we can find a translation
of it. Or whatever. But in this book he talks
about a very real man named Pellegrino Ornetti, who was
an Italian priest and scientist who worked at the Vatican.
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And Pellegrino Ornetti was actually not an eccentric man. Okay,
he was not the type of person known for telling
fantastic tales or not the type of person that you
would expect to come up with some kind of like
crazy yarn And the fact that he was a very
esteemed scientist as well as a priest, you know, put
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him into a very special category. In this book, the
author Brunei relates that this device called the Crono Visor
was built by Pellegrino Ornetti, and Arnetti lived from nineteen
to nineteen and so there's no question that this man,
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Pellegrino Ornetti, was a real person. But the existence or
of this thing called the coronavisor has never been quite confirmed.
But here's the story. Okay, the story is in the
nineteen sixties, he began experimenting with audio recordings of Georgian
Chance and he started getting things, you know, sounds that
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were similar to things like E. V P. So he
got some of the best scientists in the world involved
and trying to sort of look deeper for these signals,
and boy did they find something amazing. They fine tuned
it and transformed audio into visuals and created a kind
of tuneable TV that they called the Chrono Visor, like
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a TV that you can use to scan through the
years like channels. When we come back, I will tell
you more about this and the picture of Jesus they
supposedly have. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to strange
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Joshua P. Warren and apparently the the the Italian priest
at the Vatican, Pellegrino or Nettie, so they say, got
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the best scientist he could find together, including I believe
Enrico Fermi. I mean, that's the caliber we're talking about here.
They transformed audio into visuals and over time they created
kind of a tunable television that they called the Chrono Visor.
(44:57):
This is like a TV that you can used to
scan through the years the way you would scan through
TV channels. And I don't know if you have to
be at the location where the event happened or not.
I just don't know. Maybe that information is in the book,
(45:17):
but again I can't get find a copy of it.
And if I if I do get a copy, I'm
gonna have to have probably somebody helped me interpret it
or translate it. But they claim in this book that
using this device that Ernettie and his colleagues were able
to witness the crucifixion of Jesus. They were able to
(45:42):
go back so far as to witness the events of
Sodom and Gomarra, the creation of the Ten Commandments, a
speech from the Roman statesman Cicero. Events from the life
of Napoleon. You know, I mentioned Napoleon earlier in the show.
(46:05):
By the way, let me ask you, I mean, what
would you if you could go back and look at anything,
What would it be? Dinosaurs? The creation of the Pyramids, Nicola,
Tesla's laboratory, Um, the Roswell Crash, P. T. Barnum's American Museum, Like,
(46:25):
what would you go back and look at? Right? And
when it comes to the fact that this is the Vatican.
Of course, you know, they wanted to go back and
look at Jesus oriented events. But it's funny because if
you think about that, would you rather see the crucifixion
of Jesus, which would be a horrible thing to witness,
or the resurrection of Jesus or the ascension of Jesus
(46:52):
you know as he rises up, that'd be something like
you know, you have to start thinking like, if you
had these options, if you had a machine, what would
you do. So apparently Pela Grino Ornetti he reported this
to the Pope, and the Pope was able to see
all these events, and basically they talked about it and
(47:12):
came to the conclusion that this thing was too powerful,
it was too dangerous. It needed to be disassembled because
if this fell into the wrong hands, it would create
the scariest dictatorship the world has ever seen. And so
the the official story in this book is that this thing,
the coronavisor was disassembled. That's hard to believe if something
(47:35):
like that that existed that it would be but you
never know, but listen to this. In nineteen seventy two,
an Italian magazine got this leaked story and kind of
blew the whistle with an article, and they heralded this
with this headline quote a machine that photographs the past
(47:57):
has finally been invented in quote. And it told that
story the same thing, the story of Pellegrino or Nettie,
and it included amazingly a supposed photograph of the face
of Jesus at the moment of crucifixion that or Nettie
had captured using the coronovisor do you want to see it?
(48:24):
Do you want to see this pick that they published
in this Italian magazine in nineteen seventy two, will guess
what I've got Some got some good news for you. You
You can see it right now. I don't know how
long I'm gonna keep it there, because you know, my
content is always changing. If you go to Joshua pe
Warren dot com, there's no period after the PA. Go
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to Joshua pe Warren dot com. Click the link to
my curiosity shop. Yes, I'm gonna make you go to
the Curiosity shop. Scroll down. You will see a picture
there that came straight out of this Italian magazine in
nineteen of any too, and it says chrono visor and
you'll know what you're looking at. Now. Look, I'm gonna
(49:06):
be honest with you, it looks pretty fake to me.
To me, but what do you think, I mean, what
do you think? Guys? Go there look for yourself and
you see if it looks like it could be legit
to you. I'm not exactly sure how things would even
appear coming through a device like this. So is all
(49:29):
this possible? Yes, I believe it is possible based upon
the research that I've done with ghostly phenomena. I do
believe that everything gets recorded in some manner and it
can be accessed or played back in some form. That's
my belief, just based upon my years of researching ghostly
(49:49):
phenomena and similar things. So does this mean the Vatican
has a device like this? Look again, I don't know.
I would. I would just find hard to believe though,
that if they had something like this, that it would
be disassembled. Okay, I find that very very hard to believe.
And I can also see why this would be one
(50:10):
of the most astounding and you know, perhaps terrible things
out there if it fell into the wrong hands. So
that is the story of the Corono visor, which might
give you an opportunity to look back in time, think
of the ways that would change everything, everything for all
(50:31):
of us. And let me know if you can get
a copy of that Lenovo Lenovostire do Vatican, the Vatican's
new Mystery. Okay, I'm gonna squeeze an email in here
real quick. Speaking of experiments and all that, Um, you
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know I have talked on this show before about something
called an energy will that you can create very simply.
You just take a piece of paper and you cut
it into a little square and you kind of fold
it diagonally and then unfolded and then folded the other
way diagonally and unfolded, and you have like a little
pyramid shape piece of paper, and you balance the interior
(51:16):
of this pyramid on the tip of something like a
needle or a pin that's sticking straight up. And so
this little paper pyramid can spin and you can use
it to practice telekinesis or psychokinesis mind over matter. Can
you make it spin at all? And if so, can
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you make it spin clockwise or counterclockwise? Well, um, I
got an interesting tip because some people, you know, they
start out most people start out just using the wheel
out in the open, but then it's also subject to
your breath and breezes and temperature changes. I mean, it's
going to be more reliable if you put it underneath
(51:58):
a glass, like you know, an upside down glass, and
I mean, then you've got a pretty good seal. So
I gotta tip a while back from one of my
listeners and her name is Crystal, and she said that
she was not having any luck getting this thing to
move until she started using the har poo poo, I'm sorry,
(52:20):
please forgive me, thank you, I love you. I'm sorry,
please forgive me, thank you, I love you, and that
when she started doing that, it helped her to connect
and then she was able to start moving this thing.
And now listen to this. I have another email here
more confirmation of this. This comes from Heather and Washington State,
and she says, I finally did it. The poo poo
(52:44):
trick you suggested was the key. I have been trying
for about a year, but it did not work until
I could develop a feeling of love for the paper
and bringing in a spiritual guide. I think it has
something to do with the interconnectedness that emotion brings. And
(53:07):
I wrote her back and I said, so once you
started reciting hoa pono pono, it started spinning. And then
she wrote back, and she says, I repeated the full
ho a pono pono until I felt a lot of
love in my heart. She put in parentheses, way sappier
than my usual self, and a connectedness to the paper.
(53:32):
And then imagine my psychic finger moving through the glass
and touching the paper. And when I asked my guide
for help, and she gave me the name of her guide,
but I'll keep that private, she says, the paper just
gets going. And I repeated it yesterday night. She goes,
the movement wasn't as much, about one quarter of a turn,
(53:54):
but I attribute this to the fact that my kids,
four and seven year olds had been screaming for hours. Uh,
and there was a missing chicken. And she has a
smile you face and says, we're small time homesteaders. So
she says, I was having a hard time cultivating as
much calm and love as before. But she said, hey, listen,
(54:16):
this is the way to go. Repeat the poo pono.
And you know what, not only should you do that,
you should always try to get in the mood by
listening to the good fortune tone. Are you ready for it?
Take a deep breath, relax, close your eyes if you can,
and listen to the tone. That's it for this edition
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this edition of the show, the last werewolf and time
travel cameras. How's that for a combo? Welcome to My Brain. Well,
here is a surprise. I am about to go live
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in the field to my great old buddy, investigator Forrest Connor,
who is standing right now by himself at two thirty
in the morning, in the extremely dark countryside. Venograph a
small rural village in Germany, and I have no idea
(02:00):
if I'm pronouncing that village name correctly. Uh. Forest is
standing at a shrine where the Morbach Monster, the last
werewolf in Germany, was slaughtered in the eighteen hundreds. That's
what they say now before I go live to Forest
and I pray to God he's still there. Here is
(02:22):
my understanding of the story the legend Uh. The Great
and dreadful General Napoleon was born in seventeen sixty nine
and died in eighteen twenty one. There was a deserter
from his army, a Frenchman named Thomas Schweitzer, and he
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teamed up with some Russians, also deserters. And while these
desperate men were passing by the village of Whitlick or
Vittlick there in Germany Uh, they saw a farm house
and decided to rate it, and the farmer and his
sons tried to defend the property, but they were murdered,
(03:06):
and before they killed her, the farmer's wife cursed Schweitzer.
She screamed something like, you're no better than a dirty wolf,
and that is what you will always deserve to be,
you know, something along those lines. And apparently he bashed
in her skull after that curse. So over the following years,
(03:29):
Schwitzer gradually becomes literally more and more wolf like. He
He became more sort of hunched and harry. He robs, steals, murders.
He becomes so evil that even other bandits won't be
around him. So he starts living deeper and deeper in
the thick forests of Germany. Well, soon they're all these
(03:52):
legends of this wolf that walks like a man throughout
the countryside. People and livestock and dogs are constantly found
torn to shreds. And one night the wolf like Schwitzer
stumbles out of the woods and seized the daughter of
a local farmer and assaults here. And a few days
(04:17):
later a group of villagers found his camp fire and
chased him toward the area called Morbach. Fortunately they killed him,
we don't know exactly how, But after they killed him,
they buried his despicable body at a road crossing there
(04:38):
some crossroads, and and knowing how evil he was, they
asked a minister to keep his spirit at bay, and
so they built a shrine at that spot to hold
him down forever. And the minister put a candle in
that shrine and said that this candle should burn constantly
(04:58):
twenty four seven and for all time, and that if
the people ever neglected the power of God and let
that candle go out, the monster would return. And so
the people did a reliable job of keeping that flame
burning until okay, big fast forward nine um. Supposedly, one evening,
(05:29):
a group of Air Force personnel in that area were
we're returning to their base at more Back, and as
they passed the shrine, they noticed the candle was out,
and they laughed and joked about the werewolf returning, but
they did not relight that candle. So that night at
the base, all the automatic sirens started firing and all
(05:52):
the sensors around the fences were triggered. And one MP
swore that he saw a big creature like go wolf
standing on his hind legs running around the base, and
that wolfie thing jumped over a tin foot fence without
any problem. So they brought out dogs, but when the
(06:12):
dogs got near where the creature was seen, they turned
back and would not go any further. Well, the military
personnel ReLit the candle in the shrine immediately, and all
that activity stopped immediately. And that is as far as
I know the story of the Monster of Morbach in Germany.
(06:37):
So now let me switch to my live feed to
Germany with Forest. So investigator Forest Connor is out there
in the field right now and the western part of Germany,
not too far from Belgium and France, in this tiny
(06:58):
little village called vine Groff. I guess that's how you
pronounce it, Forest. What are you doing there at two
thirty in the morning, Hey, Josh, how are you tonight?
I am safe and sound, but it sounds like you're
putting yourself in jeopardy as usual. Oh, of course, of course,
I'm actually over here in the village of vine Growth.
(07:19):
I don't know if you gave any history and anything
before you introde me or not, but basically I'm here
the shrine of the Monster of more Back or the
more Boch monster. Now for one thing, just to give
everybody an idea, you sent me a picture of the shrine.
And how big is this thing? It's probably no more
than probably four ft wide by probably maybe maybe ten
(07:46):
ft tall. Okay, so, and it's sort of like a
little concrete building that has sort of an alcove with
a domed ceiling and it's just big enough for a
plant and then an altar, and there's a painting on
the back. There's a crucifix there, and of course at
the very center is this candle which is supposed to
(08:08):
burn seven because the people there believe this will keep
a werewolf away. Is that right? That is correct? The
werewolf is gone as the monster of Morbach, And legend
goes that back around in the early eight hundreds there
was a woman um put a curse on a gentleman
(08:30):
who who um who burned her farm down and killed
her husband and eventually killed her and said basically, you
know what, every full moon, you're going to become a werewolf.
And the village the guy went off and did his thing,
but the village people end up catching up with him
(08:52):
after he had his way with one of the young
ladies here in town. They end up killing him and
putting the shrunk trina because in the meantime, after the
woman cursed him, he had been or a wolf like
creature had been seen all over this the more back
area here. So now, how would you describe the landscape
(09:12):
around you? Right? Now, it's got to be kind of spooky,
i'd imagine, uh, you know, honestly, right now, I know
you've done some stuff on on the moon lately everything,
But I'm sitting here looking at the moon right now.
It's a half it's almost right out a half moon
right now. But it's eerily quiet. You know. I almost
feel like, you know, I don't want to sound crazy,
(09:33):
but I almost feel like something or someone is watching me.
Are there thick woods around you? Or I mean, what's
the general setting like? It's it's sort of a valley area. Yes,
there are some thick woods around, but there's there's the
valley here which which pretty much has a couple of
little towns in it, and then the town that I'm
(09:54):
in right now vone graph it's I would say it's
approximately yeah, five blocks by three blocks. There's not much
to it, but as you're you're just typical looking German
to Germantown and so, and then just sort of off
the side of the road, here's this shrine. Yeah. Well,
(10:16):
what they have here is um I forget the German
translations support, but it's called little holy houses and they're
sort of all over the area here in Germany if
you if you look hard enough for him. There's probably
maybe another one in the town of Morbok itself that
I've visited, and then I was in Remstein there was
(10:37):
one over there, So they're sort of dotted all over
the landscape, but this one particular is dedicated to the
Monster of morbok Okay, folks, I am sorry, I have
to jump in here for a minute and it's time
for us to take a break. Forest is gonna hang
on there, and uh, hopefully he will be there when
(10:59):
we come back, because I want to ask him just
how seriously uh that people in the area take these stories.
And furthermore, what exactly is he planning on doing there tonight?
Would you go out there by yourself like Forest is doing,
(11:19):
and you know, hanging out at this spot where anything
could pounce on you could jump out of the woods.
He's an adventurous guy. I have known Forest for a
long long time and we've had a lot of crazy
adventures together, so there's no telling what he's going to
get into. Um, all right, let me just tell you
this before we go to the break. You know, I
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far away. Tonight we have Mr Forrest Connor live in
the field in Germany. I'm going to switch back to
my live feed with him right now, give me a
couple of seconds and here we go. Now, one of
the accounts that you sent was a very believable accounts
(16:13):
about that candle going out and this werewolf appearing. Um,
do you get the sense that people in the community
really take this seriously? Well, you know, that's one thing
I ran into is like, you know, I first heard
about this Monster of more Back about six or seven
months ago. In fact, I called you and said, hey, Josh,
(16:33):
I'm going to check out this place called, um the
Shrine to the Monster of more Back. I figured, okay, fine,
I'll gotta check it out. Well, you know, every time
I brought it up to somebody, they would sort of
give me the cold shoulder and just clam up and
not really want to talk about it, which which was
odd to me. But also I don't know if this
(16:55):
goes goes into the thing. Also with the most of
the accounts I found on online where I said it
was in the village of Whittlets or Vitledge, I don't
know which one you would say. And I don't know
if that's a way to try to keep people from
going to this one certain shrine or not. But yeah,
it's it's just kind of weird how everybody talked to
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really really did not want to talk about it. So
you're out there by yourself at two thirty in the morning,
looking at this candle flickering in this shrine, and you
know whether there's a werewolf around or not. I mean,
are you are you at all concerned that there might
just be crazy people who hang out around there and
(17:39):
might use this as an opportunity to to to snatch
a victim tonight? I mean, are you a little freaked
out being out there by yourself? I mean, that's always
a concern. But you know what, I've got my bicycle here,
I rendered one from the hotel i'm at, and you
know what, I feel confident. There's a downhill slope here.
I can get away pretty quick if I need to.
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So forest you and I have been friends for a
long long time. Yeah, I know that you have a
bit of a mischievous streak, and I am thinking that
you're looking at that candle right now and you really
want to see a werewolf so you can posted on
Facebook or whatever look at the werewolf. Well, let me
(18:23):
stop you right there. You know, there was one thing
I was kind of disappointed in it's like, of course,
and you know with modern times now, it's no, no,
they're no longer wax candles. There are those little electronic
take candles that you see, you see everywhere now, which
is kind of disappointing. But but guess what, I brought
a wax candle. Okay, and I've got it right here.
(18:50):
So what do you plan to do? Well, I'm gonna
light the wax candle and I'm gonna just leave it
and see what happens and see if it's still burning
in the more ing or m tomorrow evening when I
come back. Although I am tempted. I am tempted. Actually,
I'm lifting up that candle right now, Josh, I'm tempted
(19:14):
to turn this candle off and just see what happens. Well,
you look, you and I both would would love to
see a werewolf. Uh. I would especially love to see
it from where I'm sitting here in Las Vegas. I
don't know if you want to see it since you're
standing next to the woods firm it's coming. But but
(19:35):
I mean, I mean, I kind of feel like, I mean,
maybe the fate of this community is literally hanging in
the balance. Uh. And if you start, you know, messing around,
you know, tampering with that. Hold on, Actually, there's a
lid on this candle that it's not letting me take.
(19:55):
Take the lid off. The candle is lor camels lid inside,
and there's a little cross on top of the lid.
But it's not letting me. It's not coming all Hi. Yeah,
let's let's not let's not tamper with that. I don't
want anything on my conscience if this werewolf appears, and
you don't either, But um, I'll tell you what you know,
(20:17):
Let's let's keep it like it is. We don't want
to be disrespectful. We don't want anybody to think that
we're messing with their customs. But but um, let's keep
a close eye on this and see because we know
that eventually, eventually, whether the candles electric or not, you know,
it has to go some time. I just heard something
(20:37):
over here in the bushes. Okay, Like what it's I
don't know if it's a squirrel or it's some kind
of rustling. Okay, Well, are you gonna be hanging out
there a little longer tonight? I'm gonna try to hang
out here for another hour, So yeah, Okay, well, I'll
(20:59):
tell you. I just get back with me if anything
else happens. And uh, I know that you're you're going
to be exploring Germany quite a bit the rest of
this year, I think, so, I'm sure this wants to
be your last trip to this shrine. That's true. Alright,
Well Forest, Uh did you bring any silver with you
by chance? Josh? You know me, I always carry silver. Okay,
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that's good, Shelley, Right, we'll be happy to hear that.
All right, man, Well, thank you for this field report.
And uh, you know you're you're you're a daring guy
and we we don't want to lose you. But um
keep us updated, all right, buddy, I will indeed, all right,
thanks Forest. Hey, I'm gonna light this candle real quick,
and uh and to sit here for a little bit
(21:43):
and I'll let you know what's going on. Okay, all right,
that's your decision. All right, thank you sir, all right,
thank you Forest. Well you have it alive. Report from
investigator Forest Connor at one of the strangest and perhaps
(22:08):
scariest places on Earth. You know, they say you have
to have a screw loose to do paranormal investigation. And uh,
I mean, would you be out there alone right now
like he is. I mean think about that. So hey,
I will keep you updated. So thank you again to
Forest for that daring report. One of the things that
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I love so much about these legends, and I was
thinking about this as I was listening to Forest, is that,
you know, we may never be able to go back
in time and see some of these extraordinary events that
supposedly played out, and so the closest thing that we
have is is legend and oral tradition, and you know,
(22:51):
things that have sort of just been passed down from
person to person. And I've always thought, though, wouldn't it
be the most astounding thing if you somehow had a
technology or at least some ability, you know, to go
back in time just to see what really happened. I
mean not to literally travel back in time like Michael J.
(23:15):
Fox and back to the future, but I mean just
to be able to look back in time. All we
know about history is what people wrote down or what
scientists can interpret from little bits and pieces of evidence.
But what if we could look back into the past.
You know. One of the big reasons I became involved
(23:36):
in ghost research was that I always thought about how
wondrous it would be if somehow things that happened in
the past we're being recorded in the environment and could
be accessed later. I mean, that is what a lot
of ghostly phenomena appears to be on the surface. You know,
(23:58):
some people call it a residual or or place memory,
but you know that there's some some aspect of the
environment that records things. You could even take this to
a larger scale and talk about, you know, the idea
of the acautionic record, some great library where all things
are stored. But if we had the ability, if if
we studied ghost research, for example, and we were able
(24:20):
to create some kind of a device, a camera, a
TV or whatever that could they can allow you to
tune through these recordings in the environment and see things
that happened in the past. Imagine the implications. Imagine if
you really could see history as it actually occurred. For
one thing, it would up end so many traditions that
(24:42):
are built upon a particular narrative of what happened. But
just think of the privacy issues. I mean, imagine if
someone could go back and see everything you've ever done.
Imagine going into a seed hotel room with some kind
of device like this TV that you could use to
(25:05):
scroll back channel by channel through the years or the months,
or the weeks or the days or the minutes and
and and sort of see what happened in that room.
It would be a privacy catastrophe. I was always struck
by the fact that, um, you know, in the Bible
(25:28):
there's a quote by Jesus. Jesus says for nothing is
hidden except to be revealed, nor has anything been secret,
but that it would come to light. And that's kind
of chilling if you think that's a prophecy, like is
this is this possibly what we're talking about? Interesting that
(25:51):
that is in the Bible. And I have been getting
some messages about a wondrous device the that it can
may have that would actually allow you, yes, you to
see into the past. Seriously, now leve you. I want
(26:11):
to give you just some initial thoughts on this. When
you look into a mirror, you could say you're looking
into the past because the light that is coming into
your eyes it takes like a millionth of a second
to be reflected, so you're never able to even see
(26:32):
yourself exactly as you look. You're always seeing yourself from
how you looked just a little bit ago and the past.
When we come back from this brig, I'll tell you
about this device that many believe the Vatican has, and
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Welcome back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio
and Coast to Coast. I am Aaron Normal podcast Network.
I am your host, Joshua pe Warren, And this is
the show where the unusual becomes usual. So, yeah, you
look into a mirror, technically you're looking into the past
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a million of a second or whatever. If you look
at stars through a telescope, you're seeing stars that may
not even exist anymore. They say the Andromeda Galaxy is
the most distant object readily visible to the naked eye.
It's two point five million light years away, So when
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you look up there, the light from it that you
see right now is two point five million years old.
So we are therefore actually seeing the androma the galaxy
as it was at a time long before modern humans
even existed. Now, for example, there's a galaxy called in
(30:11):
GC and it is located sixty five million light years away,
meaning that we are seeing it as it was sixty
five million years ago, right around the time the Torontosaurus
rex went extinct. And so the finite speed of light
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has the exact same effect in the other direction. If
there are intelligent aliens in this galaxy, when they look
at the Milky Way, they are seeing our galaxy as
it was at the time of the dinosaurs. So in
principle they could see our planet as it was at
(30:55):
that time. An alien on that, you know, in that
galaxy looking at our direction with see dinosaurs and maybe presume, oh,
that's a dinosaur planet and have no idea how long
ago that was. So, I mean, scientists say that stuff
is absolutely true, and I mean that alone, that's some
(31:16):
crazy stuff, isn't it. But have you heard are a
a scientific field called archaeo acoustics. Archaeo acoustics. Archaeo acoustics
is the use of acoustical study as a methodological approach
within the field of archaeology. So we all know what
(31:38):
an archaeologist is. Indiana Jones is a perfect realistic example, right,
and so, but imagine if you could go back and
and and you could study, you know, the acoustical information
that you get from things that were created in the past,
and you could examine well, I mean, you could just
go examine the acoustics of an archaeological site or some artifacts,
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but what if there were actual sounds that were somehow
imprinted in artifacts that could be somehow um picked up
and played back. So, for example, you know, in eighteen
seventy seven, Thomas Edison invented the phonograph, and essentially the
early model of the phonograph was just a piece of wax.
(32:22):
It was like a wax cylinder, and then there was
a needle attached to a big funnel, and when you
would make a sound in the funnel, it would make
that needle vibrate. And so as the wax cylinder would spend,
the needle was traveling across it and constantly making an
impression as it was vibrating, and that impression was basically
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a recording of the vibration from the sound. So then
when you reverse the process, the needle could therefore pick
up the information from the grooves and then produce a
sound that would come back outside of the funnel or
the horn. Okay, So basically the phonograph worked by taking
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advantage of grooves that were made in a malleable material
when there was a vibration being focused. And one of
the most controversial aspects of arco acoustics is that it
may be possible that pottery that was made long ago
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still holds vibrations from the sounds that were occurring around
it when it was created. And we're talking perhaps thousands
of years ago. And this is it's it's one of
those things it's hard to study because it's almost like E.
V P. You know, the Paradoia type effect or whatever,
where people are listening to things and they're trying to
(33:54):
interpret them. Um, but you know, they say that they
are voices that you can pick up from certain pieces
of pottery and things that were being made by very
skilled crafts people and uh, the machinery that was being
used to make it. I'll give you an example, would
you like to hear one of these recordings? Of course
you would. Uh. There's one that a lot of people
(34:16):
talk about called the Petreka Spot. This is an urn. Uh.
Some people say this is real. Some people say, oh,
this is a hoax. But you know, the people who
believe that this is an example say that this was
an urn that was made in fifteen fifty two in Europe. Okay,
so we're talking hundreds of years ago, and that this
(34:36):
urn may have captured the sounds around it as it
was molded. And so by playing this urn in a
similar fashion to playing a phonograph cylinder, Um, here's the
sound that you get. Okay, this is I'm just gonna
play this whole clip for you. It's forty three seconds. Uh.
You might actually be hearing something recorded in pottery from
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year fifteen fifty two in Europe. Listen to this. So
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what do you think about that? I mean, there are
plenty of people out there who say this is b s.
Even the myth Buster said that they could not verify this,
you know, the myth Busters TV show. But I must
remind you research is research and TV is entertainment. Trust me.
(36:07):
So I mean that that doesn't necessarily resolve anything that
the myth. The MythBusters couldn't you know, confirm it, But
I mean it does give you some indication here is
it possible. Well, look, let's take this whole concept to
the next level. Because over the years I have heard about,
(36:29):
you know, radionics machines that were time viewers, built by
people like George and Marjorie de la Wire. This is
a couple who supposedly photographed their wedding years after it happened, etcetera.
But all that kind of information is so anecdotal and
so unrepeatable that after years of research, I just have
(36:53):
no reason to believe that it's true. It may be,
but I have I've not seen evidence of it. So
now let us come to this thing that I've been
getting messages about. It is called the Crono visor, which
basically means time viewer. Chrono is time visor, is viewer,
(37:14):
time viewer. And this whole thing is it's well documented,
but it's also kind of sketchy at the same time,
because apparently this was described in detail in a book
that was published in two thousand two by father Francois Brune,
(37:37):
and he wrote a book called in French now Le
Nouveau Mstaire do Vatican. And by the way, I do
not speak French, even though one of my books used
the Force, was translated into French. I mean I don't know.
I mean I could, I can. I know the phrases
that you probably know from high school, but you know,
(37:59):
I've never studied French. But it was called La Nouveau
Mstaire the Vatican, which means the Vatican's New Mystery. And
this guy who was, I mean a legitimate priest, I'm
not sure if he's alive or not. Um, he he
wrote this book in French called the Vaticans New Mystery.
(38:19):
And yet um, I have not been able to find
a copy of the book. I mean, it's out there,
but it's so rare that I mean, I haven't I've
not been able to find a place where I can
purchase it. And even if I got it, I don't
think it's been translated into any other language than French.
So I'm not sure I could read it. So maybe
(38:39):
one of you can help me with that, you know,
if you are able to at least get a copy,
and then you know why, we can find a translation
of it. Or whatever. But in this book he talks
about a very real man named Pellegrino Ornetti, who was
an Italian priest and scientist who worked at the Vatican.
(38:59):
And Pellegrino Ornetti was actually not an eccentric man. Okay,
he was not the type of person known for telling
fantastic tales or not the type of person that you
would expect to come up with some kind of like
crazy yarn And the fact that he was a very
esteemed scientist as well as a priest, you know, put
(39:22):
him into a very special category. In this book, the
author Brunei relates that this device called the Crono Visor
was built by Pellegrino Ornetti, and Arnetti lived from nineteen
to nineteen and so there's no question that this man,
(39:43):
Pellegrino Ornetti, was a real person. But the existence or
of this thing called the coronavisor has never been quite confirmed.
But here's the story. Okay, the story is in the
nineteen sixties, he began experimenting with audio recordings of Georgian
Chance and he started getting things, you know, sounds that
(40:05):
were similar to things like E. V P. So he
got some of the best scientists in the world involved
and trying to sort of look deeper for these signals,
and boy did they find something amazing. They fine tuned
it and transformed audio into visuals and created a kind
of tuneable TV that they called the Chrono Visor, like
(40:29):
a TV that you can use to scan through the
years like channels. When we come back, I will tell
you more about this and the picture of Jesus they
supposedly have. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to strange
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Joshua P. Warren and apparently the the the Italian priest
at the Vatican, Pellegrino or Nettie, so they say, got
(44:36):
the best scientist he could find together, including I believe
Enrico Fermi. I mean, that's the caliber we're talking about here.
They transformed audio into visuals and over time they created
kind of a tunable television that they called the Chrono Visor.
(44:57):
This is like a TV that you can used to
scan through the years the way you would scan through
TV channels. And I don't know if you have to
be at the location where the event happened or not.
I just don't know. Maybe that information is in the book,
(45:17):
but again I can't get find a copy of it.
And if I if I do get a copy, I'm
gonna have to have probably somebody helped me interpret it
or translate it. But they claim in this book that
using this device that Ernettie and his colleagues were able
to witness the crucifixion of Jesus. They were able to
(45:42):
go back so far as to witness the events of
Sodom and Gomarra, the creation of the Ten Commandments, a
speech from the Roman statesman Cicero. Events from the life
of Napoleon. You know, I mentioned Napoleon earlier in the show.
(46:05):
By the way, let me ask you, I mean, what
would you if you could go back and look at anything,
What would it be? Dinosaurs? The creation of the Pyramids, Nicola,
Tesla's laboratory, Um, the Roswell Crash, P. T. Barnum's American Museum, Like,
(46:25):
what would you go back and look at? Right? And
when it comes to the fact that this is the Vatican.
Of course, you know, they wanted to go back and
look at Jesus oriented events. But it's funny because if
you think about that, would you rather see the crucifixion
of Jesus, which would be a horrible thing to witness,
or the resurrection of Jesus or the ascension of Jesus
(46:52):
you know as he rises up, that'd be something like
you know, you have to start thinking like, if you
had these options, if you had a machine, what would
you do. So apparently Pela Grino Ornetti he reported this
to the Pope, and the Pope was able to see
all these events, and basically they talked about it and
(47:12):
came to the conclusion that this thing was too powerful,
it was too dangerous. It needed to be disassembled because
if this fell into the wrong hands, it would create
the scariest dictatorship the world has ever seen. And so
the the official story in this book is that this thing,
the coronavisor was disassembled. That's hard to believe if something
(47:35):
like that that existed that it would be but you
never know, but listen to this. In nineteen seventy two,
an Italian magazine got this leaked story and kind of
blew the whistle with an article, and they heralded this
with this headline quote a machine that photographs the past
(47:57):
has finally been invented in quote. And it told that
story the same thing, the story of Pellegrino or Nettie,
and it included amazingly a supposed photograph of the face
of Jesus at the moment of crucifixion that or Nettie
had captured using the coronovisor do you want to see it?
(48:24):
Do you want to see this pick that they published
in this Italian magazine in nineteen seventy two, will guess
what I've got Some got some good news for you. You
You can see it right now. I don't know how
long I'm gonna keep it there, because you know, my
content is always changing. If you go to Joshua pe
Warren dot com, there's no period after the PA. Go
(48:46):
to Joshua pe Warren dot com. Click the link to
my curiosity shop. Yes, I'm gonna make you go to
the Curiosity shop. Scroll down. You will see a picture
there that came straight out of this Italian magazine in
nineteen of any too, and it says chrono visor and
you'll know what you're looking at. Now. Look, I'm gonna
(49:06):
be honest with you, it looks pretty fake to me.
To me, but what do you think, I mean, what
do you think? Guys? Go there look for yourself and
you see if it looks like it could be legit
to you. I'm not exactly sure how things would even
appear coming through a device like this. So is all
(49:29):
this possible? Yes, I believe it is possible based upon
the research that I've done with ghostly phenomena. I do
believe that everything gets recorded in some manner and it
can be accessed or played back in some form. That's
my belief, just based upon my years of researching ghostly
(49:49):
phenomena and similar things. So does this mean the Vatican
has a device like this? Look again, I don't know.
I would. I would just find hard to believe though,
that if they had something like this, that it would
be disassembled. Okay, I find that very very hard to believe.
And I can also see why this would be one
(50:10):
of the most astounding and you know, perhaps terrible things
out there if it fell into the wrong hands. So
that is the story of the Corono visor, which might
give you an opportunity to look back in time, think
of the ways that would change everything, everything for all
(50:31):
of us. And let me know if you can get
a copy of that Lenovo Lenovostire do Vatican, the Vatican's
new Mystery. Okay, I'm gonna squeeze an email in here
real quick. Speaking of experiments and all that, Um, you
(50:51):
know I have talked on this show before about something
called an energy will that you can create very simply.
You just take a piece of paper and you cut
it into a little square and you kind of fold
it diagonally and then unfolded and then folded the other
way diagonally and unfolded, and you have like a little
pyramid shape piece of paper, and you balance the interior
(51:16):
of this pyramid on the tip of something like a
needle or a pin that's sticking straight up. And so
this little paper pyramid can spin and you can use
it to practice telekinesis or psychokinesis mind over matter. Can
you make it spin at all? And if so, can
(51:37):
you make it spin clockwise or counterclockwise? Well, um, I
got an interesting tip because some people, you know, they
start out most people start out just using the wheel
out in the open, but then it's also subject to
your breath and breezes and temperature changes. I mean, it's
going to be more reliable if you put it underneath
(51:58):
a glass, like you know, an upside down glass, and
I mean, then you've got a pretty good seal. So
I gotta tip a while back from one of my
listeners and her name is Crystal, and she said that
she was not having any luck getting this thing to
move until she started using the har poo poo, I'm sorry,
(52:20):
please forgive me, thank you, I love you. I'm sorry,
please forgive me, thank you, I love you, and that
when she started doing that, it helped her to connect
and then she was able to start moving this thing.
And now listen to this. I have another email here
more confirmation of this. This comes from Heather and Washington State,
and she says, I finally did it. The poo poo
(52:44):
trick you suggested was the key. I have been trying
for about a year, but it did not work until
I could develop a feeling of love for the paper
and bringing in a spiritual guide. I think it has
something to do with the interconnectedness that emotion brings. And
(53:07):
I wrote her back and I said, so once you
started reciting hoa pono pono, it started spinning. And then
she wrote back, and she says, I repeated the full
ho a pono pono until I felt a lot of
love in my heart. She put in parentheses, way sappier
than my usual self, and a connectedness to the paper.
(53:32):
And then imagine my psychic finger moving through the glass
and touching the paper. And when I asked my guide
for help, and she gave me the name of her guide,
but I'll keep that private, she says, the paper just
gets going. And I repeated it yesterday night. She goes,
the movement wasn't as much, about one quarter of a turn,
(53:54):
but I attribute this to the fact that my kids,
four and seven year olds had been screaming for hours. Uh,
and there was a missing chicken. And she has a
smile you face and says, we're small time homesteaders. So
she says, I was having a hard time cultivating as
much calm and love as before. But she said, hey, listen,
(54:16):
this is the way to go. Repeat the poo pono.
And you know what, not only should you do that,
you should always try to get in the mood by
listening to the good fortune tone. Are you ready for it?
Take a deep breath, relax, close your eyes if you can,
and listen to the tone. That's it for this edition
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I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast st a UM
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