July 30, 2021 • 57 mins
Joshua Challenges Tom Vrilock to a WIZARD-OFF!
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find a wizard of weird. This is Strange Things with
Joshua Warren. I am Joshua B. Warren, and each week
on this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind
blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you can do
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at home, and a lot more. On this edition of
the show, I challenged Tom Vrillac to a wizard off. Now,
what is a wizard off? That's when we go into
a room and shoot lightning bolts at each other to
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see who dominates. Just kidding, all right, not not quite,
not quite that dramatic. That's that's how it works in
the movies. No this is a real wizard off and
you will see what that means soon. You know, Tom
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of a Lock is the inventor of the miraculous prayer board.
You can learn more about that in my online curiosity shop.
He and I have been friends for years now, and
he is one of the stars of the short film
I created called wish Masters. That movie is only sixteen
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minutes long, and you can watch it for free right
now by visiting wish Masters movie dot com. Again, that's
wish Masters movie dot com. Tom produced a deluge of
curiosity by always wearing a mask, kind of like a
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Darth Vader helmet, and he has finally decided to occasionally
let people see what he looks like without the mask.
We'll dig into his psyche in a minute, but he
is an artist and an author and a man who
practices magic with the k Okay, So that means I'm
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not talking about stage magician tricks. I'm talking about a
real manifesto, a real magician. His website is vrilock dot com.
That's spelled v r I l o c k v
relock dot com. And I knew at some point he
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had to come onto this podcast, so here it is
a treat for you. Here is my interview with the Man,
the Myth, the Legend, the Mystery, Mr tom Relock. Tom Rilock,
Welcome to the show. Hey Joshua, how are you doing?
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I am doing very well, and I'm excited because a
lot of people are going to be interested in the
work that you are doing. I have interviewed you before
on my podcast, Joshua P. Warren Daily and on camera
for the short film called Wish Masters, and you always
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attracted a lot of curiosity, in particular because you wore
a mask, and yet recently you have finally begun showing
your face. Why did you wear the mask and why
are you showing your face now? Well, originally I wore
the mask as sort of sort of like a Batman
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kind of elemental character, and I wanted to bring fun
and in a way that people could understand psionics, which
can be sometimes a complicated area of magic and manifestation.
And I thought, you know, what a better way to
do it than uh approaching this subject that maybe not
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too many people know a whole lot about and it
can be a little intimidating, but with uh, you know,
like in a fantasy sort of approach and you know,
we we've all heard of Batman, Darth Vader, and the
masks sort of resembles either one of those. UM. I
think I started taking the mask off at some point
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because I also wanted to approach people with you know,
I am a real person teaching uh an actual art form,
and uh, you know, I was a fan of the
late Sir Christopher Lee, and he talked a lot about
you know, when he first got into those Hammer horror films.
You know, he was the Frankenstein, the Dracula, and then
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everybody wanted to know what does he really look like?
Who is this guy? And you know, once he decided
to show his face, that kind of opened up the
doors to doing other things. And I'm interested in doing
a lot of different things. So I think that really
wraps up the whole mask thing. You've taken always a
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very artistic approach towards educating people, and uh that's why
you have basically comics and great illustrations that sort of
dramatize what radionics and psionics is all about. Um. And
so before we get more into all of that, just
let's give everybody the basics. Where are you from and
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where are you now? Well? I was born actually Thomas
Walton in southern California into very early nineteen seventies, and UM,
my background is really you know, it began for me
the journey into the mysterious probably in around nineteen eighty
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or one, when I moved overseas to attend an international
school in Saudi Arabia in the city of ri Odd
And uh, that's where I encountered some things that I
might get into later on the program, the you know,
things like the gin, the desert Janey and so on. Uh.
I discovered psionics probably I think in ninety nine when
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I read a book on the subject, and that really
rang a bell with me. Um. It was in about
two that I became the first student of Charles Kasimano,
who's known as the godfather of psionics. And he actually
took that that whole uh sci fi genre and and
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put it into an actual art form. Prior to that,
it was known as radionics. UH. In two thousand I
worked and studied to become an engineering technical writer, and
then in about two thousand nine, I again moved abroad,
but this time I lived in Japan for several years,
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where I studied culture, farming, land restoration, I taught English
as a second language, and uh Buddhism I mean meditation
in a Buddhist temple. It was in two thousand and
ten that I took the name Verlach is a magical name.
And you know a lot of people always ask me
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what does verlock mean? And you know it roughly transliterates
to life force magic. Well, according to UH Villology spiritual
leader Mr Robert Blue Medi, who says vill means life
force of the gods. But for me, then the name
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Verlock is more of a fantasy name that that was
possibly UH came to me out of the influence of
certain fantasy characters from some old sci fi animations like
uh Sandar the Barbarian or the film Fire into Ice.
Now in the year one, here we are and I'm
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currently hosting a couple of podcasts managing club and club
memberships for Asonic Magic lifestyle philosophy and methodology program and
right now my latest work includes an upcoming beginner's academy
for people who know very little about psionics. What is magic, well,
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magic is basically the application of will to change conformity
and reality to something else, which would be the will
of the person doing the magic. It's an art. Magic
is imagination, it is applied imagination, and most of us
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have I would say we all have magical ability to
some degree. It's just that once we learn to emphasize
the will and focus a little stronger on our imagination
and we start to see the manifestation process happen for us.
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You mentioned the gin and genies, and I do receive
emails from time to time from people who say I
think I've encountered one of these things, and they are
confused or troubled. Help us put that into context. What
are these things called the gin or genies? Well, no
one really knows. Um. The only thing I can possibly
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say is each person needs to come to a conclusion
themselves as to what these invisible things are until one
day science and technology can prove without a shadow of
a doubt what it is that we're dealing with. So
what what encounters have you had? Well, it started in
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early childhood. I had a series of paranormal and supernatural events,
extrasensory perception experiences such as se in snippets of the future,
and like I said, uh, smattering of culture geist activity
around me, lights going off and on, door slamming, uh,
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hearing sounds of someone being there when you could actually
not see anybody being there. And this started from me
very early on, and sort of when I went abroad
to Saudi Arabia, this exploded exponentially for me, where I
had a perchance encounter with what I could only call
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like a caravan of wandering spirits, uh, what people might
consider to be the Gin. It's time for a break.
When we come back, you will hear about Tom's close
encounter with the Gin and how it was a life
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right back at paranormal date dot com. You the most
fantastic people. Hi, I'm Tom. Hi, I'm Jennifer. What brings
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you here? Yeah? I'm here to meet someone who understands
me so well. I'm into UFOs, go stallions, big Foot,
conspiracy theories, the paranormal, that kind of stuff, but can't
seem to find anyone who gets here. Oh well, nice
to meet you, Tom. I gotta go. Okay, I guess
that's not your cup of tea? Are you sure? Very good?
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Luck with that? I can't meet anyone when I'm out,
and I really can't find a website from my unique interest?
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I'm a paranormal matchmaker and it's paranormal date dot com.
It's a website for people looking for people like them.
Stuff you like, remember interesting. I'll give it a dry well,
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Your profile on Paranormal day dot com looked very interesting.
So you really saw a UFO. Well yeah, it was
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Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole
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every day is golden and every night is silver. And
now let's get back to Tom Relocks close encounter with
the spirits. And for me, it happened when I wandered
off from our camp. We were out just camping during
the day in the desert, and I wandered off over
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these red dunes and I found a clearing and I
sat on a rock and it was really peaceful and quiet,
and for one moment it felt as if a hand
reached down from the sun and touched me on the
crown of my head, and I thought, you know what,
what's this. I think I was about eight years old
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at the time, and next thing I know, I could
hear the voices of children, and when I looked around,
there were these little dust devils, you know, coming around,
and I heard it boy say over here. So I
look over towards the horizon and there's this colossal dust
devil coming. So, being a kid, I ran out in
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front of that colossal dust devil and I thought, I
am not afraid of this thing. I'm gonna stand right here.
I was hit by this colossal dust devil and I
felt all this static energy charge up around me. And
after that point I started to feel more uh intuitive uh.
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My experiences of seeing snippets of the future, precognition, uh,
knowing what people were thinking around me. This started to
expand for me quite a bit, so I don't know,
I was in a magical land. And later when I
went to Japan, similar events started to happen for me. Well, okay,
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let's let's talk a little bit about your club. Um, okay,
your club is a very popular place and people from
all over the world. They join the club and you
work together on collective consciousness experiments. When someone joins your club,
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what does that person experience? Well, the first thing we
have when someone joins the club is I have a
letter that is emailed to them so that they know
exactly what to expect and how to navigate the club.
So we have an orientation letter that is emailed to
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this person and they stay in touch with us through
a newsletter. And I also have a private club messaging
system which I answer, you know, within seventy two hours
at the most, usually within a couple of hours. I
answer my club members their questions. So each week we
have a certain number of postings in the club, which
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could be audio lectures. Sometimes these are videos and uh
sometimes documents as well. And there's a beginner's page for
anyone who's now two scionics or radionics, so that they
can a beginner can go to that beginner's page and
see what it is that they might have missed before.
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There's a private club shop for discounts, whereas in my
public shop it's a little more expensive. And then there's
also something that we call a project's page, and that's
that's really the fun component of the club, because whatever
people learn in the club, there's a projects page where
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people can go and test out what they've learned. So
give me an example of something amazing you have achieved
using magic. Oh wow, um, you know that's that's the thing.
At first for people it might be something very very
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small and like coincidence, and people will say to themselves,
did I do that? Was that me? Was that this
magic working? And the answer is yes, Well it's you
and the universe working together to accomplish certain goals. Now
is for myself, having been working at ssionics for about
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thirty five years, I've been involved in meditation for about
forty years. I have been able to accomplish some things
that are very spectacular, and I don't expect for most
people to do super incredible things at first, we start
very small. But for me, I've been able to stop
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in some occasions super typhoons from hitting largely populated areas.
We've even dissolved some typhoons. We've we've stopped about forty
plus typhoons, including myself. On solo projects, my wife and
I and then with club members, we've worked on trying
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to protect the coastline from storms, bring rain in to
put out fires. Um. I worked on a project to
help Dave Schrader, the host of Darkness Radio, with his
his daughter who had become very ill, and a lot
of other people contributed to that as well. I used
my prayer board and miraculously she was She was well
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and only had to stay in the hospital one more night.
She was released. We did a big project with you, Joshua,
where you had to move your museum halfway across the country.
Across country. Yeah, and I mean it went you know yourself.
It went smooth, uh, cost effective, nothing was broken, and
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you found a spot for it, you know. So. I mean,
I magic can do some really amazing things. And the
key is that psionics makes it so much easier that
you don't have to be a master magician to get
started using psionics. You know, when I had to move
my museum literally from North Carolina to Nevada, you know,
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pretty much across the country, there were so many moving
parts and there were so many things that could have
gone wrong. I definitely asked you and your club members
to help me, and I'm telling you things happened that
just weren't supposed to happen that made that work out.
I mean, we had a storage unit and everybody said,
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there's no way all this stuff is gonna fit, you know,
in the storage unit, and it fits so perfectly. You
could not have squeezed a thumbtack in there. But afterward
but it was just you know, everything worked out great.
You are the inventor of the miraculous prayer board. What
led you to create the miraculous prayer board? Well, Um,
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it was during my seven years day in Japan that
I crafted the first what I called the psionic hexagram
board that is currently sitting in a temple right now
in Japan as we speak to the first prayer board, um,
and that I had made with this beautiful magenta color
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and gold wiring. And the gold is significant actually because
of how I discovered this instrument. I had a visitation
from an entity of some kind, perhaps a interdimensional It
was a being of light and I can only describe
her as the Golden Lady Um and her ability that
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she showed me was being able to hold back these
huge tidal waves and twunamis. But what was communicated to me,
Like most higher level beings that exist in I don't know,
parallel parallel realities above our own physical world, they cannot
maintain protection over areas targeted by dark sorcery, which certainly
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that did happen while I was in Japan. Uh. Super
science weaponry. We all, you know, we have our suspicion
about DWS, direct energy weapons and so on, and they
can these entities can only protect areas for a short
period of time. Thus, for some reason, I was gifted
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into my heart chakra this energy that flowed into me
from what I can only cause, the this Golden Lady.
And this is the third time in my life that
an entity came to me and funneled in this energy
into my heart chakra. And so this this energy I
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infused into a touch instrument, and I'd had visions of
this hexagram, so I gave it a test and put
together the Miraculous Prayer Board, which I called the Hexagram
Board at that time, and I found that it was
effective against forty super typhoons, uh to lurric disruptions or
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earth energy disruptions, earthquakes, and working miracles for other people.
That's something that's kind of uncommon, actually working miracles for
other people and radionics and psionics activities, but this prayer
board really makes that possible. You know, Tom, you and
I have become really good friends over quite a few
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years now, and I've always admired your magical prowess. So
I came up with an idea for a little game.
I've never done this before, a little challenge. I realized
that magic does not work that well with gambling systems
most of the time. But just for fun, since I'm
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in Las Vegas, I want to challenge you to the
first ever wizard off. Okay, it's time for us to
Paul's and take a break, and when we come back,
I will explain to Tom what a wizard off is,
because this is just something I came up with. So
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he's sitting there like, what is this crazy guy talking about?
And then once we start actually discussing it, I must
confess it. It started to kind of get a little
bit out of hand, and we may have gone a
little too far with this, but we both love magic
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and manifestation, and he's been doing it a long time
and I've been doing it a long time, and we
might be setting a precedent here for a new Olympic sport. Uh.
You will understand everything when we come back, and you
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will see why that this is such a fun experiment
and exercise, well, certainly for the two of us. Hopefully
you'll enjoy being a fly on the wall. I'm Joshua
Pete Warren, you're listening to Strange Things on the I
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I'm your host, Joshua pet Warren, and this is the
show where the unusual becomes usual. And here I am
explaining the setup of a wizard Off challenge, a wizzard
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Off challenge between myself and Tom Relac Enjoy. Now, let
me explain what I'm talking about. I'm thinking, why don't
we plan a time, like a specific time for me
to go to a roulette whell And when you go
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to a roulette wheel, you have an almost fifty chance
that the ball is either going to land on black
or red. So so why don't I try to make
the ball land on red and you try to make
it land on black, which is fitting giving the you know,
given the motif that you you know, the kind of
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Darth Vader impription that you know. So I try to
make it land on red, you try to make it
land on black, and whoever wins pays the other one. Um, well,
let me put it this way whoever loses, I should say,
pays the other person one thousand dollars. What do you say?
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Just a thousand dollars? One thousand dollars? Joshua? Come on?
How about five thousand? M? You can't you want to
do ten thousand? Well, you know what if we're if
we're gonna do it, why don't we gonna go for it.
Let's let's go for a fifty thousand? Can you do
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fifty grand? Well? Are you really up to this? Joshua? Well,
you know, I feel confident that I can make the
ball end where I want it to. But I it's
a great exercise for both of us. Fifty grand work
for you? Well, then let's go for a whopping hundred grand?
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Are you game? Okay? Okay? Alright? A hundred thousand dollars
on one spin, one spin of the roulette? Will? Well,
you know it's gonna hit black. I should start setting
the money aside now on an escrow. Okay, you know what, fine,
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let's let's just stop right there. I think that's ridiculous enough.
So let's let's make a one hundred thousand dollar bit
um and between now and when I do the next podcast, Uh,
you and I are gonna agree on a time, and
I'm going to go to a casino and I'm gonna
spend that thing. And if it's red, you owe me
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a hundred thousand dollars, and if it's black, I owe
you a hundred thousand dollars. Deal. Deal, Absolutely, Okay, wizard off, folks,
wizard off. And on the next podcast, I will tell
everybody what happens. Uh. See, this is it's great to
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have friends who are magicians, you know, so they can
rob you of your money. So I want everybody to
tune in for the next show to see what happens.
And uh yeah, you know. And it would be interesting,
wouldn't it, Tom, to see if more people start trying
to do this kind of thing and have fun with
this and challenge each other, if we kind of set
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a precedent here, right But um, but but look, Tom,
unfortunately the clock has almost got us. So I want
to give you the floor, and I want you to
just tell everyone how to learn more about you and
your work, and how to join your club and anything
else that you want people to know. Like I say,
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the floor is yours. Well, we do so many fun
projects in the club. That's the place to be if
you really want to get into psionics. Uh. Some humorous
projects such as Influencing is one of my favorite rich
software publishers to create remakes of classic old school video
games on some of the new iOS and Android apps.
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I love doing that. I've had some good success at it,
games like sort of Fargal We're not Uh, they were
old nineteen eighties computer games, and we were able to
get those two manifest is app games. In a number
of other projects that are more serious of course, where
we work with helping people who maybe need a little
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bit more money. Romance. I mean, that's what else is
there in life besides life, love and happiness. Right, everybody
wants a little more of these things, and so we'll
work on projects like that as well. I think that
your website is my website is the main public website
is Verlock dot com. That's v R I L O
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c K dot com. And my club is Verlock dot Club. Well,
I want to encourage everyone who's new to magic not
to be afraid to learn it. And if you join
me in my club, excellent. We look forward to having
you there. And if you just want to follow along
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and subscribe to the newsletter. Go to relock dot com
and scroll down the page and click the subscribe button.
We will be glad to have you with us. And
keep the magic high. Yes, keep the magic high. That
is tom relocks motto and I like it high vibration,
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high minded. That's how you get somewhere, That's how you
make some progress. And again I hope that you will
go and visit his website relock dot com. V R
I L O c K dot com. Thank you for
being on the show, Tom, And yes, we are going
to have our wizard off and I'll let you know
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on the next edition of this program what happened. Who
do you think is going to win the wizard off?
Me or the Great Tom Block. This is gonna be fun.
Huh hey, listen, uh, this is something kind of interesting.
I bet you didn't know this. Okay. Tom and his
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wife Kay have visited me and Lauren h a couple
of times here in Las Vegas, and the last time
they were here I think was last year, and Lauren
and I took them to Boulder City, Nevada. Now, when
you are right here, like in the middle of the
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Vegas Strip and I can look out my window right now,
and I can see the Vegas Strip. When you're on
the strip, you kind of feel like that you are
in the middle of a big movie set. You know,
it's it's all just artificial, giant glamour and lights. But
if you go thirty minutes away, Uh, there is this
little town called Boulder City that was built primarily to
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house the workers who created what we now call the
Hoover Dam. They used to call it the Boulder Dam.
And Boulder City is it feels like a whole different world.
It seems like a normal, quaint, sort of all American
traditional town. You could you could shoot a Hallmark movie there.
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There's a little historic district that you can walk around
and uh, it's just a beautiful little place. And to
to show you how different the Boulder City is from
Las Vegas, they do not allow gambling in Boulder City,
so that's a big statement. And and it is kind
of nice to get away from the the gambling vibe
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and then be, you know again back into more of
a normal place. This is, for example, where Lauren and
I went last Halloween, Uh, to spend Halloween because you know,
since like you have kids running around trick or treatying
and their bands playing, and it's just more like a
normal experience. And yet and yet a Boulder city has
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all of this really weird stuff that you would you
would never expect. For example, there is a monster museum there,
Tom Devlin's Monster Museum, This guy who was a famous
special effects artist, has created a museum there that you
can walk through and you can see all of these
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life sized, you know, representations of classic movie monsters and
more modern movie monsters, and some of his own original stuff.
There is a UFO shop there that's devoted to just
you know, flying saucers. An Area fifty one and conspiracies
and you know that I think a lot of people
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call it Area fifty two. That's there. You have a
metaphysical shop there which has all kinds of interesting gemstones
and and like a salt room you can go in
and uh and rejuvenate in. Uh. There are lots of
antique stores. There is um you know, you have like
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little all kinds of cool little bars, and there's like
a wine shop that has cheese and charcudie plays. It's just,
you know, it's just really cool little town. But I
did not know until just a couple of months ago
that every single time you see a Zoltar machine. Now,
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now do you know what I'm talking about? A Zultar machine.
These are these automatons and it's sort of like a
big case and you walk up and there's a robot
in side, and he's a fortune teller, uh, and you
maybe you put a dollar in there and he you know,
he'll move around and he'll say something to you and
then spit out a little ticket, a little yellow ticket
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that says Dultar speaks. Every time you see one of
those things. Those are all made m Boulder City, Nevada,
by this company called Characters Unlimited, and Zoltar became extremely
popular in I think nineteen when the movie Big came
out with Tom Hanks, because it's been a while since
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I've seen that movie. But basically, you know, the kid
has this interaction with the Zoltar machine and that leads
to his wish being granted to become an adult and
hilarity ensues. So all those machines all over the world,
these Zultar machines all are made right there in Boulder City, Nevada,
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and they make a lot of other interesting automatons. They've
been doing this for decades, and even though automatons have
been around since, you know, like this kind of thing,
since the late eighteen hundreds, these are the best that Zoltars.
When we come back, I'm going to tell you a
little bit more about the Zoltar machines, and I have
some emails to share with you. I'm Joshua Pete Warren.
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edition of Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and
Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. I'm your host,
Joshua pe Warren, and I really do need a Zultar
machine in my living room, don't you think. Wouldn't that
just makes sense? Wouldn't that just feel right for me
(45:21):
to have a Zultar machine. They're so popular. My sister
is a huge Zultar fan. As a matter of fact,
when she was here recently, she went to Boulder City
and bought Zoltar T shirt. And you know, of course,
when you when you go up to the Zoltar machine,
(45:42):
you put you know, maybe a dollar in I think
that's about the average price, and Zoltar spits out this
yellow ticket. This is Zoltar Speaks. I have one in
my hand right now that I got recently, and on
the back and says you're a fortune. And it has
a little picture, and I'll give you an example of
sort of what it says in case you've never seen
(46:04):
something like this. It's it's pretty generic, you know, but
it says, yes, you've been up against it at times,
and fate has been at the bottom of it all.
Now you can look ahead to better times. You will
dream about sun and that will be the beginning of
a bright future. You are a very sincere individual and
(46:25):
like to be surrounded by your good friends, etcetera. And
then it has you know, some lucky numbers, and and
it says right here characters Unlimited, Boulder City, Nevada. Well,
I don't know if I'm going to purchase a Zoltar machine,
but I do think I need to go to the
Zoltar factory and bring my audio recorder and do a
(46:50):
field report. Would would you find that interesting? You know,
if I went into a place where they're making automatons
and uh and got this kind of quirky story. But
let me ask you a question. How much do you
think it would cost you to buy one of those things?
So let's say you you have a gas station or
(47:10):
something like that, and you want to have a Zoltar
machine sitting there, and you you're you're wanting people to be,
you know, pumping dollar bills into this thing. How much
money do you think Assultar machine would would run you? Well,
I got online and I went to their website, and
(47:30):
it is my understanding that their most affordable model costs
six thousand, eight hundred dollars. Now, granted, this is a
complex piece of well made machinery, but I was thinking, Wow,
six thousand, eight hundred dollars, if you were a business person,
(47:51):
that means you've got to have six thousand, eight hundred
people putting a dollar in that thing just to get
your money back. But even then, you know you're you're
spending money for the for the tickets. So I don't
know how much they cost, but I'm gonna say, like,
you need seven thousand people to come up and put
a dollar in this thing until you start making profits.
(48:13):
So you know, you if if you're gonna do that,
you you really need a high traffic area, I guess.
Uh and a lot of people who are very open
to having their fortune told. So that's just kind of
a funny little thing to think about. You probably never
thought about that before. Huh. Okay, let's go to some
(48:34):
of my emails to see what some of you are
thinking about. And uh, I actually I have two emails
that just came in about my bad buster, the psionic
D materializer. They're almost sold out as a matter of fact.
By now they may be sold out, but I do
(48:55):
sell these in my curiosity shop. The psionic de materializer
this is something I vented and uh and the common
name is the bad Buster. And this came from Amanda
and she says bad Buster good news. She wrote, Joshua,
I have written before about my good luck with the
(49:15):
bad Buster, and now I have even more exclamation point.
I said it at the end of March to get
rid of my credit card debt. Recently I came into
unexpected money and was able to pay off everything in full.
What a wonderful, filling exclamation point. Thanks Amanda, Well, thank
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you for that report. Amanda. You know see, people wonder
why that I put these products out there, and it's
because I get this this kind of feedback every day.
Here's another one. This came from Brett and uh, this
is kind of an odd one. He said, my next
door neighbor's pool was green for like a year. I
(50:07):
wrote quote my neighbor's green pool and put it into
the psionic D materializer. About three to four days later,
they drained the whole pool and now it is a
beautiful blue. Thank you, Brett. And he put a big
(50:29):
old smiley face there. You see, like you you can
start getting creative with with with this stuff. Uh, it
doesn't always have to be life altering decisions. You can
just tweak things in your life just a little bit.
How does it work? Who cares if we don't know
how it works? Just you know, experiment That's what all
(50:49):
this is. It's experimentation. But here's something about pools that
you might find interesting, especially since I'm sure many of
you are listening to this podcast in the middle of
a summer heat um. Here in Las Vegas, for example,
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there are a lot of very rich people, and you know,
you have a lot of celebrities and people in show business. Uh,
it's a famous town. And some of these people they
go out and they buy these mansions and they install
some big, glorious swimming pool and then, uh, I'm sure
(51:33):
they you know, have a party once in a while,
but most of the time that swimming pool is just
sitting there, unused. And some of these are pools that
would make Hugh Hefner green with envy, you know, the
the grottos and the waterfalls and all that kind of thing.
And so there is this new service and I'm not
being paid to say this to you. This is not
(51:54):
a sponsorship. I'm just telling you. There's this service that
I discovered, uh called swimple. I actually first heard about
this on Shark Tank, which is one of my favorite
TV shows. Uh, swimp Lee. And basically it's like, uh
an Airbnb, but for swimming pools. So if you have
(52:15):
a swimming pool and you're not using it, then you
can go and rent it out by the hour. Two
people through this website called swimp Lee, and uh so
Lauren and I we have taken advantage of this, and
so we'll get on there and we'll be like, oh,
this looks like a cool pool, and it could be
(52:35):
anywhere from I don't know, like thirty dollars an hour
up to like a hundred dollars per hour. But you
have the whole pool to yourself. You're going to somebody's
house and you are using that person's pool. And the
last time we did it, the woman who had the pool,
(52:56):
she texted me when we were on the way there
and she said, hey, uh, and you know you want
some margarita's. I'll sell your margarita for five bucks. You
sure have some margarita's ready, I mean so you show
up at the stranger's house, which I know it sounds
kind of weird, but it always works out just fine.
And and they have different arrangements for bathrooms and and
(53:19):
changing rooms and and that kind of thing. But yeah,
you go to this person's house and then uh, you
just enjoy their pool for how many hours you've rented it,
and then uh, then you go home and everybody's happy.
So this is just something that you can keep in
mind if you're the type of person like me, Like
I live in the desert, but I miss the water,
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you know. I I really miss being in Puerto Rico
when I could snorkel and scuba dive all the time.
I had a lot of great time there, many good years.
And uh, right now I'm working here in Las Vegas,
and this is where I intend to be for for
quite a while. But I just wanted to let you
know in case that's of interest to you. Swimp Ley
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s w I m p l y Swimpley dot com
and you can go and look and see if there
are any pools that you could rent in your area.
But you know, Nevada is a very interesting and mystical
and strange place. Uh, it was. They call this the
battle Born State because it became a part of the
(54:27):
Union during the Civil War and on October thirty one.
As a matter of fact, there's a lot of paranormal
activity here and I'm studying a lot of it. I
think there's no um it's it's no coincidence that a
lot of the UFO activity is happening here. There are
many many haunted places, their monsters, their time warps. I mean,
(54:48):
I'm really making the most of my time here in
the desert because when I was in Puerto Rico and
this aquatic environment, I was researching the Bermuda Triangle. Well
now I'm risk arching kind of its counterpart, what they
call the Nevada Triangle, which has a lot of strange
stuff happening. And I'll tell you more about that in
(55:09):
the near future. But anyway, we are out of time,
So that means it's time for you to kick back, relax,
take a deep breath, if you can, close your eyes,
and enjoy the good fortune tone. That's it for this
(55:51):
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Joshua Warren. I am Joshua B. Warren, and each week
on this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind
blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you can do
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at home, and a lot more. On this edition of
the show, I challenged Tom Vrillac to a wizard off. Now,
what is a wizard off? That's when we go into
a room and shoot lightning bolts at each other to
(01:39):
see who dominates. Just kidding, all right, not not quite,
not quite that dramatic. That's that's how it works in
the movies. No this is a real wizard off and
you will see what that means soon. You know, Tom
(01:59):
of a Lock is the inventor of the miraculous prayer board.
You can learn more about that in my online curiosity shop.
He and I have been friends for years now, and
he is one of the stars of the short film
I created called wish Masters. That movie is only sixteen
(02:22):
minutes long, and you can watch it for free right
now by visiting wish Masters movie dot com. Again, that's
wish Masters movie dot com. Tom produced a deluge of
curiosity by always wearing a mask, kind of like a
(02:43):
Darth Vader helmet, and he has finally decided to occasionally
let people see what he looks like without the mask.
We'll dig into his psyche in a minute, but he
is an artist and an author and a man who
practices magic with the k Okay, So that means I'm
(03:05):
not talking about stage magician tricks. I'm talking about a
real manifesto, a real magician. His website is vrilock dot com.
That's spelled v r I l o c k v
relock dot com. And I knew at some point he
(03:25):
had to come onto this podcast, so here it is
a treat for you. Here is my interview with the Man,
the Myth, the Legend, the Mystery, Mr tom Relock. Tom Rilock,
Welcome to the show. Hey Joshua, how are you doing?
(03:46):
I am doing very well, and I'm excited because a
lot of people are going to be interested in the
work that you are doing. I have interviewed you before
on my podcast, Joshua P. Warren Daily and on camera
for the short film called Wish Masters, and you always
(04:07):
attracted a lot of curiosity, in particular because you wore
a mask, and yet recently you have finally begun showing
your face. Why did you wear the mask and why
are you showing your face now? Well, originally I wore
the mask as sort of sort of like a Batman
(04:30):
kind of elemental character, and I wanted to bring fun
and in a way that people could understand psionics, which
can be sometimes a complicated area of magic and manifestation.
And I thought, you know, what a better way to
do it than uh approaching this subject that maybe not
(04:55):
too many people know a whole lot about and it
can be a little intimidating, but with uh, you know,
like in a fantasy sort of approach and you know,
we we've all heard of Batman, Darth Vader, and the
masks sort of resembles either one of those. UM. I
think I started taking the mask off at some point
(05:19):
because I also wanted to approach people with you know,
I am a real person teaching uh an actual art form,
and uh, you know, I was a fan of the
late Sir Christopher Lee, and he talked a lot about
you know, when he first got into those Hammer horror films.
You know, he was the Frankenstein, the Dracula, and then
(05:41):
everybody wanted to know what does he really look like?
Who is this guy? And you know, once he decided
to show his face, that kind of opened up the
doors to doing other things. And I'm interested in doing
a lot of different things. So I think that really
wraps up the whole mask thing. You've taken always a
(06:01):
very artistic approach towards educating people, and uh that's why
you have basically comics and great illustrations that sort of
dramatize what radionics and psionics is all about. Um. And
so before we get more into all of that, just
let's give everybody the basics. Where are you from and
(06:22):
where are you now? Well? I was born actually Thomas
Walton in southern California into very early nineteen seventies, and UM,
my background is really you know, it began for me
the journey into the mysterious probably in around nineteen eighty
(06:43):
or one, when I moved overseas to attend an international
school in Saudi Arabia in the city of ri Odd
And uh, that's where I encountered some things that I
might get into later on the program, the you know,
things like the gin, the desert Janey and so on. Uh.
I discovered psionics probably I think in ninety nine when
(07:08):
I read a book on the subject, and that really
rang a bell with me. Um. It was in about
two that I became the first student of Charles Kasimano,
who's known as the godfather of psionics. And he actually
took that that whole uh sci fi genre and and
(07:32):
put it into an actual art form. Prior to that,
it was known as radionics. UH. In two thousand I
worked and studied to become an engineering technical writer, and
then in about two thousand nine, I again moved abroad,
but this time I lived in Japan for several years,
(07:53):
where I studied culture, farming, land restoration, I taught English
as a second language, and uh Buddhism I mean meditation
in a Buddhist temple. It was in two thousand and
ten that I took the name Verlach is a magical name.
And you know a lot of people always ask me
(08:13):
what does verlock mean? And you know it roughly transliterates
to life force magic. Well, according to UH Villology spiritual
leader Mr Robert Blue Medi, who says vill means life
force of the gods. But for me, then the name
(08:33):
Verlock is more of a fantasy name that that was
possibly UH came to me out of the influence of
certain fantasy characters from some old sci fi animations like
uh Sandar the Barbarian or the film Fire into Ice.
Now in the year one, here we are and I'm
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currently hosting a couple of podcasts managing club and club
memberships for Asonic Magic lifestyle philosophy and methodology program and
right now my latest work includes an upcoming beginner's academy
for people who know very little about psionics. What is magic, well,
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magic is basically the application of will to change conformity
and reality to something else, which would be the will
of the person doing the magic. It's an art. Magic
is imagination, it is applied imagination, and most of us
(09:43):
have I would say we all have magical ability to
some degree. It's just that once we learn to emphasize
the will and focus a little stronger on our imagination
and we start to see the manifestation process happen for us.
(10:04):
You mentioned the gin and genies, and I do receive
emails from time to time from people who say I
think I've encountered one of these things, and they are
confused or troubled. Help us put that into context. What
are these things called the gin or genies? Well, no
one really knows. Um. The only thing I can possibly
(10:29):
say is each person needs to come to a conclusion
themselves as to what these invisible things are until one
day science and technology can prove without a shadow of
a doubt what it is that we're dealing with. So
what what encounters have you had? Well, it started in
(10:51):
early childhood. I had a series of paranormal and supernatural events,
extrasensory perception experiences such as se in snippets of the future,
and like I said, uh, smattering of culture geist activity
around me, lights going off and on, door slamming, uh,
(11:12):
hearing sounds of someone being there when you could actually
not see anybody being there. And this started from me
very early on, and sort of when I went abroad
to Saudi Arabia, this exploded exponentially for me, where I
had a perchance encounter with what I could only call
(11:34):
like a caravan of wandering spirits, uh, what people might
consider to be the Gin. It's time for a break.
When we come back, you will hear about Tom's close
encounter with the Gin and how it was a life
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right back at paranormal date dot com. You the most
fantastic people. Hi, I'm Tom. Hi, I'm Jennifer. What brings
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you here? Yeah? I'm here to meet someone who understands
me so well. I'm into UFOs, go stallions, big Foot,
conspiracy theories, the paranormal, that kind of stuff, but can't
seem to find anyone who gets here. Oh well, nice
to meet you, Tom. I gotta go. Okay, I guess
that's not your cup of tea? Are you sure? Very good?
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Luck with that? I can't meet anyone when I'm out,
and I really can't find a website from my unique interest?
What does one to do? Have you thought about paranormal
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I'm a paranormal matchmaker and it's paranormal date dot com.
It's a website for people looking for people like them.
Stuff you like, remember interesting. I'll give it a dry well,
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let's try this again. Hi, I'm Tom. Hey, I'm deb
Your profile on Paranormal day dot com looked very interesting.
So you really saw a UFO. Well yeah, it was
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every day is golden and every night is silver. And
now let's get back to Tom Relocks close encounter with
the spirits. And for me, it happened when I wandered
off from our camp. We were out just camping during
the day in the desert, and I wandered off over
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these red dunes and I found a clearing and I
sat on a rock and it was really peaceful and quiet,
and for one moment it felt as if a hand
reached down from the sun and touched me on the
crown of my head, and I thought, you know what,
what's this. I think I was about eight years old
(16:48):
at the time, and next thing I know, I could
hear the voices of children, and when I looked around,
there were these little dust devils, you know, coming around,
and I heard it boy say over here. So I
look over towards the horizon and there's this colossal dust
devil coming. So, being a kid, I ran out in
(17:11):
front of that colossal dust devil and I thought, I
am not afraid of this thing. I'm gonna stand right here.
I was hit by this colossal dust devil and I
felt all this static energy charge up around me. And
after that point I started to feel more uh intuitive uh.
(17:32):
My experiences of seeing snippets of the future, precognition, uh,
knowing what people were thinking around me. This started to
expand for me quite a bit, so I don't know,
I was in a magical land. And later when I
went to Japan, similar events started to happen for me. Well, okay,
(17:54):
let's let's talk a little bit about your club. Um, okay,
your club is a very popular place and people from
all over the world. They join the club and you
work together on collective consciousness experiments. When someone joins your club,
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what does that person experience? Well, the first thing we
have when someone joins the club is I have a
letter that is emailed to them so that they know
exactly what to expect and how to navigate the club.
So we have an orientation letter that is emailed to
(18:34):
this person and they stay in touch with us through
a newsletter. And I also have a private club messaging
system which I answer, you know, within seventy two hours
at the most, usually within a couple of hours. I
answer my club members their questions. So each week we
have a certain number of postings in the club, which
(18:57):
could be audio lectures. Sometimes these are videos and uh
sometimes documents as well. And there's a beginner's page for
anyone who's now two scionics or radionics, so that they
can a beginner can go to that beginner's page and
see what it is that they might have missed before.
(19:19):
There's a private club shop for discounts, whereas in my
public shop it's a little more expensive. And then there's
also something that we call a project's page, and that's
that's really the fun component of the club, because whatever
people learn in the club, there's a projects page where
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people can go and test out what they've learned. So
give me an example of something amazing you have achieved
using magic. Oh wow, um, you know that's that's the thing.
At first for people it might be something very very
(20:01):
small and like coincidence, and people will say to themselves,
did I do that? Was that me? Was that this
magic working? And the answer is yes, Well it's you
and the universe working together to accomplish certain goals. Now
is for myself, having been working at ssionics for about
(20:23):
thirty five years, I've been involved in meditation for about
forty years. I have been able to accomplish some things
that are very spectacular, and I don't expect for most
people to do super incredible things at first, we start
very small. But for me, I've been able to stop
(20:44):
in some occasions super typhoons from hitting largely populated areas.
We've even dissolved some typhoons. We've we've stopped about forty
plus typhoons, including myself. On solo projects, my wife and
I and then with club members, we've worked on trying
(21:04):
to protect the coastline from storms, bring rain in to
put out fires. Um. I worked on a project to
help Dave Schrader, the host of Darkness Radio, with his
his daughter who had become very ill, and a lot
of other people contributed to that as well. I used
my prayer board and miraculously she was She was well
(21:30):
and only had to stay in the hospital one more night.
She was released. We did a big project with you, Joshua,
where you had to move your museum halfway across the country.
Across country. Yeah, and I mean it went you know yourself.
It went smooth, uh, cost effective, nothing was broken, and
(21:53):
you found a spot for it, you know. So. I mean,
I magic can do some really amazing things. And the
key is that psionics makes it so much easier that
you don't have to be a master magician to get
started using psionics. You know, when I had to move
my museum literally from North Carolina to Nevada, you know,
(22:16):
pretty much across the country, there were so many moving
parts and there were so many things that could have
gone wrong. I definitely asked you and your club members
to help me, and I'm telling you things happened that
just weren't supposed to happen that made that work out.
I mean, we had a storage unit and everybody said,
(22:37):
there's no way all this stuff is gonna fit, you know,
in the storage unit, and it fits so perfectly. You
could not have squeezed a thumbtack in there. But afterward
but it was just you know, everything worked out great.
You are the inventor of the miraculous prayer board. What
led you to create the miraculous prayer board? Well, Um,
(23:02):
it was during my seven years day in Japan that
I crafted the first what I called the psionic hexagram
board that is currently sitting in a temple right now
in Japan as we speak to the first prayer board, um,
and that I had made with this beautiful magenta color
(23:24):
and gold wiring. And the gold is significant actually because
of how I discovered this instrument. I had a visitation
from an entity of some kind, perhaps a interdimensional It
was a being of light and I can only describe
her as the Golden Lady Um and her ability that
(23:50):
she showed me was being able to hold back these
huge tidal waves and twunamis. But what was communicated to me,
Like most higher level beings that exist in I don't know,
parallel parallel realities above our own physical world, they cannot
maintain protection over areas targeted by dark sorcery, which certainly
(24:15):
that did happen while I was in Japan. Uh. Super
science weaponry. We all, you know, we have our suspicion
about DWS, direct energy weapons and so on, and they
can these entities can only protect areas for a short
period of time. Thus, for some reason, I was gifted
(24:39):
into my heart chakra this energy that flowed into me
from what I can only cause, the this Golden Lady.
And this is the third time in my life that
an entity came to me and funneled in this energy
into my heart chakra. And so this this energy I
(25:01):
infused into a touch instrument, and I'd had visions of
this hexagram, so I gave it a test and put
together the Miraculous Prayer Board, which I called the Hexagram
Board at that time, and I found that it was
effective against forty super typhoons, uh to lurric disruptions or
(25:22):
earth energy disruptions, earthquakes, and working miracles for other people.
That's something that's kind of uncommon, actually working miracles for
other people and radionics and psionics activities, but this prayer
board really makes that possible. You know, Tom, you and
I have become really good friends over quite a few
(25:43):
years now, and I've always admired your magical prowess. So
I came up with an idea for a little game.
I've never done this before, a little challenge. I realized
that magic does not work that well with gambling systems
most of the time. But just for fun, since I'm
(26:06):
in Las Vegas, I want to challenge you to the
first ever wizard off. Okay, it's time for us to
Paul's and take a break, and when we come back,
I will explain to Tom what a wizard off is,
because this is just something I came up with. So
(26:27):
he's sitting there like, what is this crazy guy talking about?
And then once we start actually discussing it, I must
confess it. It started to kind of get a little
bit out of hand, and we may have gone a
little too far with this, but we both love magic
(26:48):
and manifestation, and he's been doing it a long time
and I've been doing it a long time, and we
might be setting a precedent here for a new Olympic sport. Uh.
You will understand everything when we come back, and you
(27:08):
will see why that this is such a fun experiment
and exercise, well, certainly for the two of us. Hopefully
you'll enjoy being a fly on the wall. I'm Joshua
Pete Warren, you're listening to Strange Things on the I
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I'm your host, Joshua pet Warren, and this is the
show where the unusual becomes usual. And here I am
explaining the setup of a wizard Off challenge, a wizzard
(31:00):
Off challenge between myself and Tom Relac Enjoy. Now, let
me explain what I'm talking about. I'm thinking, why don't
we plan a time, like a specific time for me
to go to a roulette whell And when you go
(31:23):
to a roulette wheel, you have an almost fifty chance
that the ball is either going to land on black
or red. So so why don't I try to make
the ball land on red and you try to make
it land on black, which is fitting giving the you know,
given the motif that you you know, the kind of
(31:44):
Darth Vader impription that you know. So I try to
make it land on red, you try to make it
land on black, and whoever wins pays the other one. Um, well,
let me put it this way whoever loses, I should say,
pays the other person one thousand dollars. What do you say?
(32:08):
Just a thousand dollars? One thousand dollars? Joshua? Come on?
How about five thousand? M? You can't you want to
do ten thousand? Well, you know what if we're if
we're gonna do it, why don't we gonna go for it.
Let's let's go for a fifty thousand? Can you do
(32:31):
fifty grand? Well? Are you really up to this? Joshua? Well,
you know, I feel confident that I can make the
ball end where I want it to. But I it's
a great exercise for both of us. Fifty grand work
for you? Well, then let's go for a whopping hundred grand?
(32:53):
Are you game? Okay? Okay? Alright? A hundred thousand dollars
on one spin, one spin of the roulette? Will? Well,
you know it's gonna hit black. I should start setting
the money aside now on an escrow. Okay, you know what, fine,
(33:19):
let's let's just stop right there. I think that's ridiculous enough.
So let's let's make a one hundred thousand dollar bit
um and between now and when I do the next podcast, Uh,
you and I are gonna agree on a time, and
I'm going to go to a casino and I'm gonna
spend that thing. And if it's red, you owe me
(33:40):
a hundred thousand dollars, and if it's black, I owe
you a hundred thousand dollars. Deal. Deal, Absolutely, Okay, wizard off, folks,
wizard off. And on the next podcast, I will tell
everybody what happens. Uh. See, this is it's great to
(34:00):
have friends who are magicians, you know, so they can
rob you of your money. So I want everybody to
tune in for the next show to see what happens.
And uh yeah, you know. And it would be interesting,
wouldn't it, Tom, to see if more people start trying
to do this kind of thing and have fun with
this and challenge each other, if we kind of set
(34:23):
a precedent here, right But um, but but look, Tom,
unfortunately the clock has almost got us. So I want
to give you the floor, and I want you to
just tell everyone how to learn more about you and
your work, and how to join your club and anything
else that you want people to know. Like I say,
(34:45):
the floor is yours. Well, we do so many fun
projects in the club. That's the place to be if
you really want to get into psionics. Uh. Some humorous
projects such as Influencing is one of my favorite rich
software publishers to create remakes of classic old school video
games on some of the new iOS and Android apps.
(35:07):
I love doing that. I've had some good success at it,
games like sort of Fargal We're not Uh, they were
old nineteen eighties computer games, and we were able to
get those two manifest is app games. In a number
of other projects that are more serious of course, where
we work with helping people who maybe need a little
(35:29):
bit more money. Romance. I mean, that's what else is
there in life besides life, love and happiness. Right, everybody
wants a little more of these things, and so we'll
work on projects like that as well. I think that
your website is my website is the main public website
is Verlock dot com. That's v R I L O
(35:54):
c K dot com. And my club is Verlock dot Club. Well,
I want to encourage everyone who's new to magic not
to be afraid to learn it. And if you join
me in my club, excellent. We look forward to having
you there. And if you just want to follow along
(36:16):
and subscribe to the newsletter. Go to relock dot com
and scroll down the page and click the subscribe button.
We will be glad to have you with us. And
keep the magic high. Yes, keep the magic high. That
is tom relocks motto and I like it high vibration,
(36:38):
high minded. That's how you get somewhere, That's how you
make some progress. And again I hope that you will
go and visit his website relock dot com. V R
I L O c K dot com. Thank you for
being on the show, Tom, And yes, we are going
to have our wizard off and I'll let you know
(37:00):
on the next edition of this program what happened. Who
do you think is going to win the wizard off?
Me or the Great Tom Block. This is gonna be fun.
Huh hey, listen, uh, this is something kind of interesting.
I bet you didn't know this. Okay. Tom and his
(37:22):
wife Kay have visited me and Lauren h a couple
of times here in Las Vegas, and the last time
they were here I think was last year, and Lauren
and I took them to Boulder City, Nevada. Now, when
you are right here, like in the middle of the
(37:45):
Vegas Strip and I can look out my window right now,
and I can see the Vegas Strip. When you're on
the strip, you kind of feel like that you are
in the middle of a big movie set. You know,
it's it's all just artificial, giant glamour and lights. But
if you go thirty minutes away, Uh, there is this
little town called Boulder City that was built primarily to
(38:08):
house the workers who created what we now call the
Hoover Dam. They used to call it the Boulder Dam.
And Boulder City is it feels like a whole different world.
It seems like a normal, quaint, sort of all American
traditional town. You could you could shoot a Hallmark movie there.
(38:31):
There's a little historic district that you can walk around
and uh, it's just a beautiful little place. And to
to show you how different the Boulder City is from
Las Vegas, they do not allow gambling in Boulder City,
so that's a big statement. And and it is kind
of nice to get away from the the gambling vibe
(38:52):
and then be, you know again back into more of
a normal place. This is, for example, where Lauren and
I went last Halloween, Uh, to spend Halloween because you know,
since like you have kids running around trick or treatying
and their bands playing, and it's just more like a
normal experience. And yet and yet a Boulder city has
(39:14):
all of this really weird stuff that you would you
would never expect. For example, there is a monster museum there,
Tom Devlin's Monster Museum, This guy who was a famous
special effects artist, has created a museum there that you
can walk through and you can see all of these
(39:36):
life sized, you know, representations of classic movie monsters and
more modern movie monsters, and some of his own original stuff.
There is a UFO shop there that's devoted to just
you know, flying saucers. An Area fifty one and conspiracies
and you know that I think a lot of people
(39:57):
call it Area fifty two. That's there. You have a
metaphysical shop there which has all kinds of interesting gemstones
and and like a salt room you can go in
and uh and rejuvenate in. Uh. There are lots of
antique stores. There is um you know, you have like
(40:18):
little all kinds of cool little bars, and there's like
a wine shop that has cheese and charcudie plays. It's just,
you know, it's just really cool little town. But I
did not know until just a couple of months ago
that every single time you see a Zoltar machine. Now,
(40:41):
now do you know what I'm talking about? A Zultar machine.
These are these automatons and it's sort of like a
big case and you walk up and there's a robot
in side, and he's a fortune teller, uh, and you
maybe you put a dollar in there and he you know,
he'll move around and he'll say something to you and
then spit out a little ticket, a little yellow ticket
(41:04):
that says Dultar speaks. Every time you see one of
those things. Those are all made m Boulder City, Nevada,
by this company called Characters Unlimited, and Zoltar became extremely
popular in I think nineteen when the movie Big came
out with Tom Hanks, because it's been a while since
(41:27):
I've seen that movie. But basically, you know, the kid
has this interaction with the Zoltar machine and that leads
to his wish being granted to become an adult and
hilarity ensues. So all those machines all over the world,
these Zultar machines all are made right there in Boulder City, Nevada,
(41:50):
and they make a lot of other interesting automatons. They've
been doing this for decades, and even though automatons have
been around since, you know, like this kind of thing,
since the late eighteen hundreds, these are the best that Zoltars.
When we come back, I'm going to tell you a
little bit more about the Zoltar machines, and I have
some emails to share with you. I'm Joshua Pete Warren.
(42:13):
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Joshua pe Warren, and I really do need a Zultar
machine in my living room, don't you think. Wouldn't that
just makes sense? Wouldn't that just feel right for me
(45:21):
to have a Zultar machine. They're so popular. My sister
is a huge Zultar fan. As a matter of fact,
when she was here recently, she went to Boulder City
and bought Zoltar T shirt. And you know, of course,
when you when you go up to the Zoltar machine,
(45:42):
you put you know, maybe a dollar in I think
that's about the average price, and Zoltar spits out this
yellow ticket. This is Zoltar Speaks. I have one in
my hand right now that I got recently, and on
the back and says you're a fortune. And it has
a little picture, and I'll give you an example of
sort of what it says in case you've never seen
(46:04):
something like this. It's it's pretty generic, you know, but
it says, yes, you've been up against it at times,
and fate has been at the bottom of it all.
Now you can look ahead to better times. You will
dream about sun and that will be the beginning of
a bright future. You are a very sincere individual and
(46:25):
like to be surrounded by your good friends, etcetera. And
then it has you know, some lucky numbers, and and
it says right here characters Unlimited, Boulder City, Nevada. Well,
I don't know if I'm going to purchase a Zoltar machine,
but I do think I need to go to the
Zoltar factory and bring my audio recorder and do a
(46:50):
field report. Would would you find that interesting? You know,
if I went into a place where they're making automatons
and uh and got this kind of quirky story. But
let me ask you a question. How much do you
think it would cost you to buy one of those things?
So let's say you you have a gas station or
(47:10):
something like that, and you want to have a Zoltar
machine sitting there, and you you're you're wanting people to be,
you know, pumping dollar bills into this thing. How much
money do you think Assultar machine would would run you? Well,
I got online and I went to their website, and
(47:30):
it is my understanding that their most affordable model costs
six thousand, eight hundred dollars. Now, granted, this is a
complex piece of well made machinery, but I was thinking, Wow,
six thousand, eight hundred dollars, if you were a business person,
(47:51):
that means you've got to have six thousand, eight hundred
people putting a dollar in that thing just to get
your money back. But even then, you know you're you're
spending money for the for the tickets. So I don't
know how much they cost, but I'm gonna say, like,
you need seven thousand people to come up and put
a dollar in this thing until you start making profits.
(48:13):
So you know, you if if you're gonna do that,
you you really need a high traffic area, I guess.
Uh and a lot of people who are very open
to having their fortune told. So that's just kind of
a funny little thing to think about. You probably never
thought about that before. Huh. Okay, let's go to some
(48:34):
of my emails to see what some of you are
thinking about. And uh, I actually I have two emails
that just came in about my bad buster, the psionic
D materializer. They're almost sold out as a matter of fact.
By now they may be sold out, but I do
(48:55):
sell these in my curiosity shop. The psionic de materializer
this is something I vented and uh and the common
name is the bad Buster. And this came from Amanda
and she says bad Buster good news. She wrote, Joshua,
I have written before about my good luck with the
(49:15):
bad Buster, and now I have even more exclamation point.
I said it at the end of March to get
rid of my credit card debt. Recently I came into
unexpected money and was able to pay off everything in full.
What a wonderful, filling exclamation point. Thanks Amanda, Well, thank
(49:41):
you for that report. Amanda. You know see, people wonder
why that I put these products out there, and it's
because I get this this kind of feedback every day.
Here's another one. This came from Brett and uh, this
is kind of an odd one. He said, my next
door neighbor's pool was green for like a year. I
(50:07):
wrote quote my neighbor's green pool and put it into
the psionic D materializer. About three to four days later,
they drained the whole pool and now it is a
beautiful blue. Thank you, Brett. And he put a big
(50:29):
old smiley face there. You see, like you you can
start getting creative with with with this stuff. Uh, it
doesn't always have to be life altering decisions. You can
just tweak things in your life just a little bit.
How does it work? Who cares if we don't know
how it works? Just you know, experiment That's what all
(50:49):
this is. It's experimentation. But here's something about pools that
you might find interesting, especially since I'm sure many of
you are listening to this podcast in the middle of
a summer heat um. Here in Las Vegas, for example,
(51:10):
there are a lot of very rich people, and you know,
you have a lot of celebrities and people in show business. Uh,
it's a famous town. And some of these people they
go out and they buy these mansions and they install
some big, glorious swimming pool and then, uh, I'm sure
(51:33):
they you know, have a party once in a while,
but most of the time that swimming pool is just
sitting there, unused. And some of these are pools that
would make Hugh Hefner green with envy, you know, the
the grottos and the waterfalls and all that kind of thing.
And so there is this new service and I'm not
being paid to say this to you. This is not
(51:54):
a sponsorship. I'm just telling you. There's this service that
I discovered, uh called swimple. I actually first heard about
this on Shark Tank, which is one of my favorite
TV shows. Uh, swimp Lee. And basically it's like, uh
an Airbnb, but for swimming pools. So if you have
(52:15):
a swimming pool and you're not using it, then you
can go and rent it out by the hour. Two
people through this website called swimp Lee, and uh so
Lauren and I we have taken advantage of this, and
so we'll get on there and we'll be like, oh,
this looks like a cool pool, and it could be
(52:35):
anywhere from I don't know, like thirty dollars an hour
up to like a hundred dollars per hour. But you
have the whole pool to yourself. You're going to somebody's
house and you are using that person's pool. And the
last time we did it, the woman who had the pool,
(52:56):
she texted me when we were on the way there
and she said, hey, uh, and you know you want
some margarita's. I'll sell your margarita for five bucks. You
sure have some margarita's ready, I mean so you show
up at the stranger's house, which I know it sounds
kind of weird, but it always works out just fine.
And and they have different arrangements for bathrooms and and
(53:19):
changing rooms and and that kind of thing. But yeah,
you go to this person's house and then uh, you
just enjoy their pool for how many hours you've rented it,
and then uh, then you go home and everybody's happy.
So this is just something that you can keep in
mind if you're the type of person like me, Like
I live in the desert, but I miss the water,
(53:43):
you know. I I really miss being in Puerto Rico
when I could snorkel and scuba dive all the time.
I had a lot of great time there, many good years.
And uh, right now I'm working here in Las Vegas,
and this is where I intend to be for for
quite a while. But I just wanted to let you
know in case that's of interest to you. Swimp Ley
(54:04):
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and you can go and look and see if there
are any pools that you could rent in your area.
But you know, Nevada is a very interesting and mystical
and strange place. Uh, it was. They call this the
battle Born State because it became a part of the
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Union during the Civil War and on October thirty one.
As a matter of fact, there's a lot of paranormal
activity here and I'm studying a lot of it. I
think there's no um it's it's no coincidence that a
lot of the UFO activity is happening here. There are
many many haunted places, their monsters, their time warps. I mean,
(54:48):
I'm really making the most of my time here in
the desert because when I was in Puerto Rico and
this aquatic environment, I was researching the Bermuda Triangle. Well
now I'm risk arching kind of its counterpart, what they
call the Nevada Triangle, which has a lot of strange
stuff happening. And I'll tell you more about that in
(55:09):
the near future. But anyway, we are out of time,
So that means it's time for you to kick back, relax,
take a deep breath, if you can, close your eyes,
and enjoy the good fortune tone. That's it for this
(55:51):
edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua
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the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast st a
UM Paranormal Podcast Network. Well, if you like this episode
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