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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
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of Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. Welcome to our podcast.
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do your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.
Yet ready to be amazed a wizard of weird. This

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is Strange Things Warrant. I am Joshua Kee Warren, and
each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand
new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments you

(01:18):
can do at home, and a lot more. On this
edition of the show, If I Were God, and I'm
not just talking about me, I want you to also
say if I were God. It starts to bring up

(01:40):
some very interesting questions and I promise you I'm going
to make a point here. There is a lesson now.
I called this show If I Were God, Sure in
order to capture your attention and be kind of sensational.
But I believe shortly you're going to start thinking about
some new things on a new level. Now, let me

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start by saying it would be easy for me to
simply say that if I were God, I could just
dictate things from the clouds like Zeus. That sounds nice,
doesn't it. So I might dictate things like no more
loud mufflers and vehicles and my neighborhood. If you have

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a car or a motorcycle that goes rubber, you're not
going to Heaven. Okay, I could I I would be
tempted to do that if I were Zeus. Seriously, though,
if just if don't don't do that, don't drive those
vehicles through neighborhoods. Listen to me, do the right thing.

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Or I could say, if I were God, if you
try to put an onion on a house salad, it
bursts into flames because onions do not belong on top
of the house salad. And I don't know how that
even started. Or how about this, Uh, if you take

(03:09):
a job off operating a leaf blower, and now you know,
I'm not even going to go there. Look, I would
just make leaf blowers silent. That's a nicer solution. You
might be able to tell. As I'm getting older, I
have more and more of a problem with noise. And
of course you have to realize I'm always recording things.

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I'm in the broadcasting business. Look, and these are these
are examples of what you might think I'm talking about
making dictations like that. But I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about something that is much more meaningful and
realistic when it comes to thinking about yourself and your

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relationship to the universe. Okay, so let me get into
what I really mean here. I wrote this book which
you could to get as an e book called Finding
Your Magic, how to Hack Reality through Lucid Living. If
you go to my website, there is a link to
the Curiosity Shop and you can find it there and

(04:12):
you can download it, and you can also hear me
read this to you. As a matter of fact, it
costs less than it used to because all the wands
are sold out. That used to come with a wand,
but I lowered the price because the wands are sold
out and I'm not making any more of those. But
there is a section which gives you sort of a
personality test to help you figure out more about who

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you are and the things that will help you manifest
what you want in life and have a better life,
and really to ultimately determine what your purpose and life is,
because it doesn't matter how hard you work, you are
never going to succeed in life unless you are in
alignment with your purpose. We all have a certain purpose

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to fulfill here and so I will tell you all
the questions that you ask. There are five questions that
you have to ask yourself, and you'll learn those if
you read Finding Your Magic. But one of the most
significant ones is how do you describe a perfect world

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according to you? So, in other words, if I give
you a pad and I say, look, whatever you write
down on this pad is going to become reality. You
tell me how it all works. You tell me what
the planet looks like, and is it made of cotton
candy with unicorns flying around? Or you know, what is it?

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What is it? And you never know what a person
is going to come up with when he or she
asks that question, Uh, you know, how do you do?
Or when that question is asked, how do you describe
a perfect world according to you? Because what usually happens
is that we are always complaining about something in life,

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and a lot of that is because we're inspired to
always feel like there's something wrong by you know, the
news media that's telling you all all the problems and
how everything's going to hell in a handbasket, et cetera.
And what I find is that if you actually, however,
sit down and you start saying, well, if I were God,
could I do a better job? You start to realize

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that maybe you're being a little bit too harsh and
a little bit too too critical when it comes to
how you're viewing the reality around you. I mean, do
you realize that you can look out there, and I
mean you see these turquoise oceans and striking sweeping mountains
and emerald plains, and the amazing symmetry, the symmetrical pyramid

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of animals and life, and the clear shining sun and
moon and stars and all the people and create true's
and music and flavors and feelings you love. You see
how perfectly it all fits together, despite the fact that
it does hurt horribly sometimes. And we're going to get
into that in a minute, and I'll show you where

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I'm leading even more clearly with all this, but as
an entitled human, we often feel that we don't have
enough enough of fill in the blank enough stuff. I mean,
think of Yoda, the simplicity of of living there in

(07:38):
the robe. How much do you need? I mean, think
of your life and you know that it's true, how
much do you really need? And so much is provided here.
A lot of the problems that we have are problems
that come from us filling our minds with the negative
thoughts that are based upon people who are ultimately advertising

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some solution to a problem that you didn't even know
that you had. But I'm not saying that life is
all peaches and cream. As a matter of fact, there
is a curse upon all of us that I'm going
to get to here shortly. But before we dig into
that inevitable fact, I just want you to start thinking

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about how that you can make the most of your
reality and how you can start manifesting good things in
your life for yourself and for other people. Almost magically,
if you start to improve your viewpoint on the universe.
So instead of thinking like there is a big bad

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world out there and maybe there is some God that
allows bad things to happen, what if you start reworking
your mindset and you say, all right, even if there
is a God that's like a big zeus sitting up
there in the sky, what if that God is not

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actually omnipotent? What if he or she or it actually
cannot do anything it wants? It also has this framework
to operate within, this canvas, to function within these rules
that we often call the laws of nature or the
laws of physics, and everything still has to happen and

(09:29):
cycle through that. But regardless of how it all works,
what I find is that it is true that what
you project out to the universe determines how the universe
treats you. And you know, I had to keep pitching
books I've written, but in my book Used the Force,

(09:50):
a Jedi's Guide the Law of Attraction. Also on my website,
I do talk about the importance of having a loving
relationship with the universe where you wake up every day
and in one way or another, you basically take a
moment and you imagine that the universe is a living, conscious, aware,
interactive thing and you say mentally to it, sincerely to it,

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I love you and thank you, and again you can
say it different ways, but just say I love you
and thank you. Even if you don't believe that the
whole universe is one big, conscious mind. The weird thing is,
if you start treating it like it is, then you
will start to see it behaving like it is. And

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suddenly this is when you realize, Hey, maybe I understand
what it means to say e R God's that you
are a creator. You're a participant in this process right
that energy flows where attention goes. And if you want

(10:54):
to make more money, sometimes the best thing you can do,
for example, is not to think about always needing more money. Uh.
When we come back from our first break, I'm gonna
give you some interesting thoughts on how you can start
changing your relationship with the universe to make better things
happen for you. But then we're gonna dig into the

(11:16):
dark side a little bit, because there are people out
there who believe that this may actually be hell. This
world that you and I are living in right now
might actually be hell. And you know what, there's a
very good argument that could be made for that, And

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I'm going to tell you about that argument and some
other various thoughts when we come back. Yeah, it's one
of those shows Cerebral whatever, but it's gonna make you think. Um.
I recently got back from my travels and so I
am finally about ready to release this kit that I've

(11:56):
been teasing for the longest time. But I'm not going
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Joshua pe Warren dot com and sign up for my
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this is not going to be in my Curiosity Shop

(12:17):
or anything, just exclusively for people who subscribe to the newsletter,
and then you're going to get an email from me
as soon as you put your email address in there.
That's got some free gifts. But any day now I'll
be announcing this new kit and it's it's one of
the coolest things I've experimented with in my life. All Right,

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Welcome back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio
and Coast to Coast AM Verorable podcast Network. I'm your host,
Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole
brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada,
where every day is golden and every night is silver.

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You have probably been put to sleep for a medical
procedure at some point in your life. Right one time,
I had a simple medical procedure, but I had to
undergo complete anesthesia and they used propa fall, which is
the substance that killed Michael Jackson. It became really well

(14:38):
known and infamous after that, but it's it's a very common,
safe thing to use. But what struck me is that
I and you've heard me say this, AM an extremely
vivid dreamer whenever. I don't care if it's a nap
or I lay down to sleep for eight hours or more.
I just have from the moment I drift off to

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the moment I wake up, I mean insane dreams and
I remember them remarkably well. And it and it really
was sort of amazing to me that when I went
in to have this procedure, of course I had an IVY,
and uh, they didn't even say like, okay, here we go,

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lights out. It was just like I was, I was
gone until I woke up in the recovery room, you know,
and there was just it was just literally like a
complete gap in my presence here on earth. And I
know you know what I'm talking about. I mean, thank
god it works that way, That's how it's supposed to work.

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But it really does help you understand that your consciousness
is some kind of a flow of of information. It's
almost like a flow of divine information that is being
channeled through this word whole brain back and forth between
here and some greater mind, and that there's an enormous

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amount of power there that you can tap into if
you if you regulate it. Remember, energy flows where attention goes.
People worry about money all the time, and unfortunately they
send that worry out and it attracts more things for
you to worry about. Uh. In fact, when it comes
to money, one of the best things you can do

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is try to become numb to whatever stresses you out
about money. Just don't even let it bother you. Don't
think about it, and only be excited by thoughts that
give you joy about what you do, like like about
having money and how you spend it and the fun
things to do with it, and that goes for everything
in your life. So the lesson here it is, first off,

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could you do a better job if you were God? Well,
I bet you can't. We can't know why that is,
we're not allowed to know. But what you can do
is appreciate the wonderful world that you live in and
how creative you can be in order to make good

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things happen for yourself, to manifest good things. And you know,
don't don't be a a whimp. Uh, don't have fear.
And if you think I'm right about this, because I
think people need to hear it over and over right now,
because there is this enormous amount of fear plaguing the

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world like never in uh certainly in my lifetime. UM,
if you think that people need to hear this, I
hope that you'll send this podcast to anyone and everyone
that you care about. But I also want to realize,
I want you to really wise that I'm not naive
here and not everything is all peachy keen. The reason

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is okay here. Here is why some people believe that
this world we're living in maybe hell. That is because
even if you really do everything that you believe you're
supposed to do to gain some happiness and health, if
you eat right and you exercise, and you don't drink

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or smoke or do any kinds of unnecessary drugs, and
you get a good stable job, and you raise a
nice family, and you you you know you you work
every day until it's time for you to retire, and
you're charitable and you get out there and you help
your neighbors and in your community. Even if you do
everything right and you live to be a hundred and

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twenty years old, you're still going to suffer throughout that
entire process, because even if you are fortunate enough so
that nothing bad happens to you. You are going to
have to see bad things happen to people all around
you that you care about. Look at what it's like
just to have a pet and to go through the

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pet dying. And you know, I've I've told you before.
I've had a lot of friends who lived to be elderly,
and they say the worst part about getting old is
watching all the people that you love die who don't
make it. So there is inevitably going to be suffering.
And I know that some religions, like Buddhism, acknowledge that

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more than others, and some people think of Buddhism as
being more of a philosophy than a religion. But it
doesn't matter, because the point is being that this is true,
and everything that you work for in your life is
eventually going to be, you know, worthless to some or
maybe not everything, but like your physical stuff, you know,

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the physical stuff is all going to disintegrate. You can
see why there are people who believe that life is suffering.
And before I get into um uh, well, let me
put it this way, that they believe that life is
so much suffering that this is hell. And and there
are various rungs of hell, and that you are within

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one of those rungs. Before I get more into that,
I just this reminded me, speaking of suffering and how
these kind of eerie tragedies happen. Of course, I own
the new Haunted Boulder City tour, which is about thirty
minutes outside of Las Vegas and uh, which, by the way,

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is you wouldn't believe how popular this tour has instantly become.
I mean, all the tours are sold out pretty much
and so um. But I've been reading more and more
and studying more and more and learning more and more
about that town, because that's the town where all the
workers lived who built the Hoover dam And I was

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reading about a lot of these workers and listen to this.
The morning of December twentie of nineteen twenty two, a
surveyor named J. G. Tyranny slipped from a barge near
the Hoover Damn site and drowned, becoming the first man

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to die associated with the project. Exactly thirteen years later
to the day, his son, Patrick Tierney became the last
man to die on the project when he fell to
his death from an intake tower. Wow, you know you

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look at stuff like that and you go, how is
it's it goes back to the synchronicity and the fact
there are no coincidences. As terrible as that is, it's
more evidence of some kind of a design here behind
all this and why it almost seems like some people
are just destined for tragedies to suffer more, and that

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that's part of what they're supposed to learn. I guess,
and it's it's it's it's terrible that it works that way.
But if you envision that maybe this life actually, let's
say it's true, let's go with this hypothesis. You might
even call it a theory, whatever, you let's go with
this idea that this world is actually hell, that you

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and I didn't get it in one of our past lives.
Like we we we were foolish, we did bad things,
we did not learn our lesson, and so we've come
here to perhaps get another opportunity and have a chance
to learn what we were supposed to learn. If that
were the case, and this is a realm of punishment,

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well then obviously there are different levels of punishment, because
you know, you have some people who clearly suffer more
than others, whether it's from a genetic, physical ailment, or
just constant tragedy. I mean, we have these curses that
seem to befall certain families, like the Kennedy's, for example.

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But then think about people who actually end up going
to prison, who really do uh? And and of course
we want to get into all the reasons that people
go to prison. I know that there are people who
go out and they're just evil people and they do
evil things and they belong in prison. But then you
have people who may not belong in prison who end

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up there because of some very bad circumstances I mean,
not to at least of which you know, not not
least of which being people who are innocent who end
up in prison. And uh, I hope that you never
end up in prison, and I certainly hope none of
us do. I do know that some of my listeners
have been to prison and and they've learned some powerful

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lessons there. And when it comes to what being in
prison does to you mentally, how it affects your outlook,
it's it's really interesting to study some of these extremely
haunted prisons that exists all over the world, and you

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know what kinds of ghosts do we have in these prisons?
Are they different than regular ghosts? You might say. And
my good buddy David Weatherly, he wrote this book that
came out recently. He actually co authored it with Ross Allison,
and it's called Haunted Prisons. And David gave me permission

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to read one of the actress to you. I don't
have time to read the whole chapter, but I thought
i'd read you some interesting parts since I'm in Nevada.
I just picked the Nevada State Prison in Carson City,
and uh, I think that you know, it's it's interesting
to think about life in general, not to mention life

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in prison, but think about afterlife in prison. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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Welcome back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio
and Coast to Coast a m para normal podcast network.
I'm your host, Joshua Pete Warren, and this is the
show where the unusual becomes usual. Do you think that
when someone dies in prison that he or she might

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actually be afraid to leave the prison? Uh? For one thing,
a lot of people just get used to confinement. It
reminds me of the movie The Shawshank Redemption, when the
old man who's been in prison for decades can't hack
it suddenly being thrust outside of prison into the regular world,

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and it's just it's overwhelming, and so he just commits
suicide as a freeman. And then you have people who
are in prison who are told on a daily basis,
reminded on a daily basis, you're a bad person. You're
a bad person. That's why you're here. You're a bad person.

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And so when that person finally dies. Is that person
afraid of passing on into that tunnel of life or
whatever where there may be some other form of spiritual
punishment on top of what has happened here in life.

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You know, It's one of those things like if you
are if you're worried about that, or if you have
the slightest guilty conscience, might you want to delay that
process of facing your judgment if you can't. We don't
know the answers to these questions, but it's interesting when
you think about haunted prisons and ghosts that reside in them.
I mentioned, of course, David Weatherly co authored this new

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book it's only been out, oh gosh, not long, called
Haunted Prisons with Ross Allison. I'll tell you what I've
published over twenty books, and I've never co authored a book. Uh.
I just I can't really imagine co authoring something creative
like that because I don't play well with others. I
want things to be my way. But when David Weatherly,

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the Great David Weatherly contacted me and asked me to
write the foreword to his book Monsters of the Tar Hills,
State Cryptids and Legends of North Carolina. Boy, I was
just thrilled and honored and delighted to do that. It's
i'd I'd write a foreword for him anytime. He's one
of my favorite authors. So he gave me permission to

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read some of this chapter for you from Haunted Prisons.
This book is on Amazon dot Com. You can get
it for less than twenty dollars. And I figured, well,
I'm doing all this research on Nevada. I'm in Las Vegas.
Let's read some about the Nevada State Prison, which is
in Carson City. At least that's that's where the remains are.

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So here we go. Just I'll skip around a little bit. Uh.
They write, where would you find a prison with a
wide ranging history that includes a mass escape, the first
execution by lethal gas, and a prison casino where else
but the rug state of Nevada. The Nevada State Prison

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operated from its establishment in eighteen sixty two until it
was closed in twenty twelve. At the time of its closing,
it was one of the oldest prisons still in operation
in the United States, and at the time of its closure,
the prison had an inmate capacity of eight hundred and
forty one. Beyond hangings and firing squads. The prison was

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the first in the United States to execute someone by
gas chamber when twenty nine year old G John was
put to death. G John was a member of a
Chinese criminal organization called Hip Sing Tong. He was tried
and convicted for the murder of an elderly man. Officials

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first attempted to execute John by pumping poison gas directly
into his cell, and when this failed, a makeshift gas
chamber was set up in the prisons butcher shop. John
was put to death on February the eight of nineteen
twenty four, with witnesses watching him through a small window.
Thirty two men were put to death in gas chambers

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at the prison from nineteen twenty four through nineteen seventy nine.
In nineteen five, serial killer Carol Cole became the first
death row inmate to be executed by lethal injection when
the state made the method the official process for execution.
In total, forty three inmates were executed at the site.

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When gambling was legalized in the state of Nevada, the
prison made an unusual move. It opened a casino. The
Big House casino operated from nineteen thirty two until nineteen
sixty seven, and it was the only penal casino in
the United States, allowing the prisons inmates to gamble at

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table games. As a result of the casino no operation,
the prison even had its own currency coined at the
prison itself. The currency consisted of brass tokens, ranging in
value from a nickel to five dollars. The prison currency
was utilized inside until the prison closed. I mean paused

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for a second. I you know, I need to look
for one of those. That'd be a neat thing to
add to my collection of weird spooky stuff. Anyway, back
to the chapter, they write, some believe the angry ghost
of murderer G. John is one of the spirits still
lingering in the prison. Perhaps John is seeking revenge for

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his death by lethal gas. As with many prisons, the
walls of numerous cells still bear the scratches of past prisoners.
Some are notes about loved ones, others clearly counting the
days of their imprisonment. The seals on the third floor

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cell house are said to be an area of high
paranormal activity. In general, there are a lot of active
spots in the prison, and reports range from disembodied voices
and strange noises to weird light anomalies. Some witnesses claimed
they've been touched by something unseen when inside the prison.

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The mess hall and kitchen areas are said to be
especially active spots for the ghosts that linger in the prison.
Metal on metal sounds, bangs, and disembodied voices have all
been picked up in the area. It's not surprising, really,
since the rooms were considered dangerous when the prison was
an out operation, and racial riot reportedly led to a

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murder in the area at one point. Several people have
also reported seeing shadow figures in the prison. These weird
humanoid shapes are often said to appear menacing, and witnesses
have said they believe the figures are sinister and evil.
Whether they are a manifestation of residual energy from the

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depths of the prison or the spirits of deceased inmates
is a matter that many investigators debate. Just as unsettling
as the shadow figures is the reported creepy laugh the
numerous people have heard inside the prison, and some have

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even captured the sound on digital recorders, says The Nevada
State Prison was added to the National Registry of Historic
Places in and work is being done to preserve the
site and its history. Thank you to David Weatherly and

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Ross Allison for allowing me to read that part of
their book Haunted Prisons again US an Amazon, and they
have sections called types of Prisons, Why Haunted Prisons, and
then prisons from all over the country. So you should

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you should definitely check this out. Andersonville. Can you imagine
that site that was a Civil War era prison? You know,
I I'm not sure if I've ever talked about this
on a podcast or a radio show before, but I
did something in a prison one time. I was investigating

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a prison and I did something that, uh is kind
of horrifying. And it's one of those things like where
I feel once again like I should be like, I'm
not proud of this, but I had an opportunity and
I kind of had to take it and I don't
really regret it. I don't know how you're gonna feel

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about it. Some of you will think that this is
um possible, possibly if pensive. I don't know, but I'm
just gonna tell you because it's true. So I have
investigated a number of haunted prisons, and uh, many years ago,
I had the opportunity to investigate one of the most

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famous haunted prisons. I'm not gonna tell you which one.
And I was with a very well known paranormal investigator,
and so we were getting some special access to things
at this prison. And at one point we this is
after kind of after hours, so to speak, and we

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were taken into a room where there were lots of
artifacts from the prison's history, and one of the things
they had there was the black hood that was put
over the head of men as they were hanged. And oh,

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I can't remember how many men had been hanged with
this hood on. I'm sure it was dozens and maybe more.
I'd have to go back and look, but a lot
of men had this black hood put over their head,
and then the news tied around it, and you could
still see, as a matter of fact, some traces of
fluids and things on this hood. And it was not

(37:25):
behind glass. There was a plaque there that had the
history of the thing. And at one point he and
I were left unsupervised, and we looked at each other
and had that mischievous spark in our eyes, and I
reached out and I took the hood and I put

(37:47):
it over my head because I wanted to see what
would happen if I would see something ghostly or feel
something ghostly. This is part of what I've done with
my life is experiment with these things. When we come
back from the break, I will tell you what happened.

(38:10):
I also have another ghost story to share with you,
and if I have time an email to share with you.
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final segment of this edition of strange things on the
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this is probably a rhetorical question, but would you have
done what I did? Would you have taken that old

(40:15):
black stained cloth hood that has been used for generations,
the same one over and over. It's it's it's a
part of the kit with the scaffolding, you know, to
put over the head of a condemned man. Would you

(40:39):
have taken that thing and slipped it over your head? Well?
I did it, and I kept it over my head
for I would say a good thirty seconds, which is
quite a while. And I did definitely feel just really
really weird. Really I'm not sure what the word is.

(41:06):
I felt out of place. I felt disoriented. Um, I
felt like I was violating something. But I did not
have a vision and I didn't see anything ghostly Okay,
so nothing like that happened. It was just I think
the thought of knowing what I was doing it was,
you know, it was just one of those very unsettling moments.

(41:30):
And I'd have to think about it a lot longer
to see if I could even try to describe it
better than that. But when I was then I took
it off of my head and I gave it to
the other investigator, and he did the same thing. And
we both said when neither one of us saw a
ghost or had some kind of like profound flash of
action some movie that appeared nothing like that. It was

(41:52):
just a very uncomfortable feeling. And you think, what could
be more haunted than that a piece of fabric over
the head of a person who knows he's about to die,
so he's he's anticipating it and then dies, and his

(42:14):
spirit to some degree, you know, passes from his head
through this fabric. It kind of reminds you of the
concept behind the shroud of Tran, doesn't it. That's another
thing to think about when it comes to like the
idea of being a perfect person. If you believe that
the that the story of Jesus is true, well even

(42:36):
if he was a model perfect citizen, look at the
suffering he endured. But anyway, um, I do not believe
that you could say by being around that thing, you know,
having it on your head for thirty seconds, you're able
to gauge how haunted it is. I would imagine that
if you had that thing in your house, a lot

(42:59):
of spooky stuff would happened around it. And but it's
in a museum. It's in a collection in a museum
where it really belongs. But if I had an opportunity
to study something like that more extensively, I would probably
take it. So I'm sorry if you didn't like that story,
but I'll just figured I may as we'll share that

(43:21):
experience with the world. It's just more information to you know. Again,
who who? Who does that? Right? Hey, I want to
give you another interesting little ghost story here real quick. Um,
as you know right now, it's the time for this.
And my Haunted Asheville Ghost tours have been a huge

(43:41):
hit for twenty five years Haunted Asheville dot com. That's
in North Carolina, and gosh, we we have so many
people from all over the world on those tours. But
the then the Boulder, the the the Haunted Boulder City Tour,
which is thirty minutes outside of Vegas. This is a
new thing. And uh, there is this new book out

(44:04):
called Haunted Las Vegas by Janice Oberding and this is
brand new, which is weird because there's another book called
Haunted Las Vegas that was written in by a man
named Paul Papa, So same name, two different books shows
you how haunted this place is. But I started reading
some of the stories that she had written about things

(44:26):
that supposedly happened near Boulder City. And if you're in
the area, just go to Haunted Boulder City dot com
to take the tour. I created it, okay, so she wrote.
Years ago, an elderly couple was driving along a lonely
stretch of the Boulder Highway outside of Las Vegas. They

(44:47):
were headed home happily. They agreed that this had been
one of their best vacations. They had enjoyed a good
run at the slot machines. The wife's coin purse was
four than it had been when they arrived in Las
Vegas the previous week, a great success. Their annual vacation
to the desert city had been both fun and profitable,

(45:07):
and now they were already engrossed in plans for next
year's jumped. Suddenly, their car smashed into something. Pulling over
to the side of the road, the old man got
out to see what he had hit. An animal lover,
He hated the thought, but there it was. A dying

(45:27):
cow lay in the middle of the road. There was
nothing he could do for the pitiful animal. He couldn't
give it anything to ease its suffering or put it
out of its misery. And as he stood staring down
at the cow, a large truck came barreling down the
highway toward him. Fear seized the old woman. Frantic that

(45:49):
her husband might be killed, she jumped out of the
car and waved her arms wildly in warning to the truck.
The truck driver tried desperately to break and avoid man
in the middle of the road. Unfortunately, he could not
prevent his truck from sliding into the old gentleman, killing
him instantly. Since that tragic events, several people have seen

(46:12):
the elderly man on the side of the road, and
some have slowed down to offer the old stir a ride.
He never accepts that, merely waves the car on as
if to say, you go on, I'm going to be
here for a while, a very long while. Now. What

(46:37):
do you think about that? That sounds like a a conscious,
interactive entity right waving the car on, unless it was
just an imprint of him doing that. I tell you
one thing. If he hit a cow, he was lucky
that they didn't both die. Last year, my mom and

(46:59):
dad were in the Smokey Mountains area around Cherokee, North Carolina,
and they were driving home at night and round it
a bend and hit a black bear, totaled the car.
It put both of them in the hospital. But my
dad got the worst of it. I mean, he had

(47:20):
to have an operation because he you know, he had
some real damage to his abdominal area. But thank god
they came through it fine. Um boy, when you hit
something of that size, that can be instantly deadly. Again.
That book Haunted Las Vegas brand new Janice Oberding. Really

(47:42):
good book. It's available on Amazon. All right, let's see
if I can squeeze an email in here. This is
from Mary Jane Collins, who lives in Nashville, Tennessee. She says,
after waking one night and being awake for a few moments, stretching, yawning,

(48:02):
and preparing to go back to sleep, I noticed a swirlly.
Excuse me, I noticed a slowly swirling mass of energy
in the room with me. I'll repeat that. She says,
I noticed a slowly swirling mass of energy in the
room with me. I rubbed my eyes and looked again,

(48:24):
and it started to come together in the form of
a vertically oriented, swirling galaxy shape, with what resembled a
black hole at the center. I rubbed my eyes again
and it was still there. Very interesting to look at.
It looked as if it had iridescent clear colors overlaid

(48:46):
on the room's background. You could see right through it,
like a heat mirage on a hot road in the summertime.
Intrigued by it, I got up and walked over to
it to get a closer look. I wanted to touch
it or stick my head inside and have a look,
And then a quick fear came over me that if
I did, I may not come back after what would

(49:09):
seem like being sucked in with the force akin to
an airline toilet flush. I stood and looked at it
for a while and decided that was enough and did
nothing to break the apparent plane of energy. I laid
back down and just watched it for a little while
a little while longer, and it slowly faded away. I

(49:30):
haven't seen it since. I still wonder what it was
and why. What would have happened if I hadn't become
afraid of the unknown, Why if I had touched it
or stuck my head in the center to have a
look and see. It was fascinating and creepy all at
the same time. Reminds me of when I saw my

(49:52):
first ghost and I did reach out and touch it,
and it was cold and made the hair stand up
on my knuckle. All right, my friends, are you ready,
here's the positive thing we're gonna do today. Take a
deep breath, close your eyes if you can, enjoy the
good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition of the show.

(50:38):
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