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like a wizard of weird. This is Strange Things. I
am Joshua pe Warren. At each week on this show,
I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises,
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and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more. On this edition of the show, Springhilled, Jack,
lizard Man, and Lalla Rona. Do you know what any
of those are? Maybe you know what all of them are? Well, listen,
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I have connected these things in my mind and I'm
going to explain to you in this show what that
connection is. And these are some of the weirdest stories
that I've come across. Okay, so, I'm looking forward to
digging into them. And these are ones that I've I've
really never talked about in depth before. But first, but first,
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I have a very interesting update for you, some really
cool news. So Justin Perry is a good friend of
mine who lives in Texas and he is a manifestation master.
He owns this extremely popular channel on YouTube called You
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Are Creators. So if you just go to YouTube dot
com type in you are Creators, that will pop up.
He has one point six six million subscribers and eight
hundred and twenty videos and it's just growing every day.
And one of the things about Justin and by the way,
he has this affirmation that he uses all the time,
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and he says it's extremely powerful. He loves coming up
with affirmations that seem very effective for people. So just
on a side note, take a note of this. Uh.
He says, here, here you go, money comes to me
and expected and unexpected ways. And then you repeat that
five times with emotion and conviction every day. Here it
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is again, money comes to me in expected and unexpected ways,
five times a day. He says, money you you would
just the abundance will start to shower you. You will
be amazed. So I enjoy sharing that with you. And
he is a very very busy guy. Okay, he's involved
in lots of enterprises. He and his wife have three sons.
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As a matter of fact, one of his sons is
named Joshua. And we were having this conversation about parents
naming their kids Joshua, and I mentioned that, you know,
my mom and dad, they like to give their kids
biblical names, and so they they admired Joshua from the Bible.
And of course you've heard the song Joshua fit the
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Bad of Jericho, right, and that is it's about this
incident in the Book of Joshua, the first battle fought
by the Israelites in the course of the conquest of Canaan.
And they say that, um, the Israelites they marched around
the city walls once a day for six days, and
then seven times on the seventh day, and they blew trumpets,
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and the walls, the great mighty walls around the city
just kicked the crack that they came crumbling and tumbling down.
And so that's when the Israelites were able to go
in and uh and take over. And what's kind of
funny is that Lauren pointed out the other day that
there was a Garth Brooks concert in Louisiana. This is
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just days ago, and over one hundred thousand fans showed
up at l s u S Tiger Stadium and they
were dancing and singing so hard that it actually caused
a small earthquake. It literally registered on a seismograph. So
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maybe that's similar to what happened in the Bible, some
kind of a man made earthquake, you know. Tesla claimed
that he had sort of an earthquake machine that he
could use. But anyway, aside from being fascinated with manifestation, uh,
Justin is extremely into UFOs and alien contact. He's one
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of the most interested people I've ever met. And as
soon as he heard that I was working with Jason
Saracchi to produce these Vegas UFO skywatches, Justin bought an
airplane ticket and he flew here and we got together
on April the twenty ninth of this year two because
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it was basically the new moon and nice and dark,
and what we do is we can, but we gave him,
you know, this v I P experience. Uh, it was
just him, Jason, myself and my wife Lauren. And when
we do these skywatches with third generation night vision goggles,
we take we take people out into the desert at
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least like thirty maybe thirty minutes from Vegas to get
away from light pollution. And we have different locations we
can pick and choose from, and so we keep them
most of the time confidential. We don't tell people exactly
where we're gonna be. So this first night, okay, well
here the first at the first sight of that night,
let me just tell you what happened. So, uh, Justin
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has never used third generation night vision goggles before. And
this technology is so precious that it's it's literally illegal
to allow a non US citizen to look through a
pair of third generation night vision goggles. It's a federal offense.
It's due to what's called I TAR I T, a
arts regulatory for you know, weapons systems and all that.
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But so we you know, we have to make sure
we only allow you as citizens to participate, and some
people don't understand that, but we don't have a choice.
So anyway, Um, so we get out there in the
field and Jason Saracci, of course he has this excellent setup. Uh,
he's got every type of camera you can want, all
these different goggles, and I mean the weather was ideal,
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the sky was clear, I mean it was ah, we
just knew we were going to see something. Well the
first thing that happened. It was kind of really great
luck and kind of bad luck at the same time.
And let me explain what I mean. Okay, so we
had we each had a pair of third generation night
vision goggles at this time. Lauren was not around and
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it was just Jason and Justin and myself, the three
the three J's in the field. And because that okay,
then we only use the finest third generation night vision goggles.
These are called Para temporal night vision goggles. And if
you want to learn all about them, and you could
watch videos and stuff, go to Para Temporal dot com
p A r A t E M p O r
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A L Para temporal dot com and uh, and you
can learn why that we only use them. And a
pair of these costs thousands of dollars. Uh. There are
some you can get that are less expensive, but we
are using like the criminala crime. So in order to
film through these third gen goggles, what you do is
you take these goggles which are ordinarily kind of like
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just binoculars that you would look through, which allow you
to see into the invisible infrared realm. And it's unbelievable
because for every star you can see with your naked eye,
you can see like twenty or thirty through the goggles.
I mean, the sky just explodes and sparkles like diamonds.
It's amazing. But when you get these things, you're you're
looking directly through them, and if you want to record
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what you're seeing, then traditionally what you do is you
kind of remove one of the eye pieces and then
you have an adapter that you can use to screw
on a camera. So having the camera there is really
great because obviously you can record what the goggles see,
but it also kind of takes away from your experience
using the goggles in real time because you're giving up
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an eyepiece there and there. There's there's something sort of
between your face and and the goggles. So the what
I'm getting out here is at this point, Jason, he
had just gotten his camera hooked up to his third
gen night vision goggles, and Justin and I didn't have
cameras hooked up yet, and I was just sort of
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showing him how to use the goggles, and he's just going, Wow,
this is amazing, you know. And so at one point
I said to um, I okay, at one point I'm
looking up and it was just like so lucky, was
so serendipitous. Justin and I were looking at the same
spot and the sky at the same time, and we
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both go WHOA, this big, bright, like jagged looking object
that seemed very low and close to us goes darting
right over our heads and we're just screaming, and and
of course, poor old Jason he's just getting his camera
hooked up and he was where is it? Where is it?
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And this thing we couldn't have been there longer than
ten seconds before I just shot right off into space.
And so the two guys who saw it, Justin myself,
we're lucky that we both got to see that was
super lucky. But we didn't have the cameras on our goggles.
And the one the one guy who did Jason, he
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he wasn't looking in the same spot at that time,
so we didn't get proof of that. But that sucked.
But don't worry. Don't worry, because later on something very
interesting happened. We ended up seeing quite a few UFOs
at that at that spot, and Jason got some great footage.
But I think the big achievement of the night was
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what happened when we decided to drive an hour to
make the light the night longer, which is something we
wouldn't ordinarily do on a SkyWatch unless somebody requested that
extra time. And um, we we we took our little
group up north of Las Vegas on the route to
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area fifty one to where I discovered the so called
time warp. So here we are out there late at night,
and it's so dark, and it's eerily quiet, and we're
ready now, Okay, we're prepared now, and we all saw
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something and it's on video. Um, when we come back
from this break, I'm gonna tell you what we saw,
and I'm going to play some audio for you of
us reacting to what we were seeing. So cool, and
then of course after that, I'll finally get into all
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these weird beings that I've been intrigued by that may
or may not even have a connection to some of
these well aliens interdimensional beings that I was spring Hill Jack,
lizard Man. Anyway, Uh, listen, to this. I've told you before.
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Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my
studio and Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day
is golden and every night is silver, and here we
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were on one of those silver nights at the time warp.
This is the place where in two thousand eighteen I
made a discovery that went viral, made international headlines. I
used Ron Heath's d T meter, his differential time rate meter,
and discovered this spot on the side of the road
on the way to Area fifty one, where I was
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able to measure time momentarily slowing down, which at that
time mainstream scientists said should not be possible. But just
since then, in the past four years or so, there
have been a lot of advances that are starting to
confirm more and more that time is a little slippery
and lucy gusco all over the place. And of course
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then things got even weirder when I found that later
on that this was a paranormal hot spot where people
have been seeing UFOs, having close encounters, experiencing missing time.
I've talked about it a lot, and once before Jason
went out there at night and he got some kind
of a weird light in the desert in the middle
of no are. Well. Here we were back there again
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late at night, perfect conditions and lo and behold, boom,
here we have out in the desert. Pal a light
that appears, and then a second light that appears, and
they're drifting around the desert. And these are not visible
to the naked eye ex except occasionally you might get
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a little hint of a reddish color, but usually they
were not available. And let let me just play the audio,
just part of the audio from you know what what
happened to us? Our reaction when we solve these lights appear.
You're gonna you're gonna hear I think all of us
in this. I'm talking, Jason's talking, Justin's talking. I think
even Lauren chimes in at a certain point. So here
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you go. This will give you an idea of how
exciting this was for us. There's something down there as
bright as hell, you know, justin here quickly, Yeah, Lauren,
I don't know what the hell that is. There's two
of them looked over there. Man, they looked for the
Nike and eye you can't see. But look, there's something
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flash and it just crossed the field. It's in the
same place it was before. It's about to disappear. So
you look with your naked eye, justin there's nothing there.
What the hell is that it's gone? Oh, this is
exactly where I saw. It's further away. Now do you
see a far just moved, Lauren, are you recording that?
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Look right down the trail. It's gone, it just disappeared. Well,
it's I could barely see a little bit. Holy again
up the lights. Back, it's down there again down the
trail this time. Is that we gotta go down there?
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Like I think this warrants a walk. It's gone. It's
there still, it's still there. Now it's gone. What the
hell was that? It's back again. It's way further down
the trail though, way further down back. Look at that. Yeah,
it's it's it's it is bad. Okay, it's bad. Yeah,
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I'm videotaping. It's gone again. Yeah, it appears and disappears. Now.
Jason was a brave man that night, and he actually
walked by himself way down that trail to see if
he could get a closer look. Even though there are
mountain lions and coyotes and rattlesnakes and scorpions, they was gone.
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It was gone. If you want to see this footage, though,
if you actually want to see what we're talking about.
John Carter up there in Canada, he put these clips together.
All you have to do is go to YouTube and
just do a search for his channel, which is UFOs Worldwide,
and you'll see he's called it two Orbs called in
Nevada Desert. Two Orbs Caught in Nevada Desert. And I'll
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try to remember to post a link to that uh
on my Twitter for you as well. But anyway, you
can see how excited we were. As a matter of fact,
Justin said that he had such a great time he's
already planning his next trip back. And so that's why
I don't know how long we're going to make these
things available, um, but can you imagine what a surprising
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gift that would be for somebody? I mean, like, like,
what's cooler than going out and having experiences like that
with your own eyes. If you want to look into
coming to the area, we'll do our best to work
with you and accommodate your schedule. Just go to Vegas
UFOs dot com. It's also okay to bring uh kids.
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We originally were uncertain about that, but we've decided that
a lot of people in town, you know, they want
to show their kids this stuff, so we're cool with that.
So just go to Vegas UFOs dot com. But we're
not gonna be taking a lot of reservations this year,
so hopefully you'll be able to join us, So listen. Um.
I was thinking about what, you know, what we were
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seeing that night, and what's going on at the time
warp and what kind of beings might be coming here
from other dimensions, and I started my mind started racing
about some of my favorite bizarre, unsolved mysteries, and I thought,
you know, there's some some stuff that I've never really
talked about in depth on this show that may have
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something to do with visitors from these other places. And
I promise, I know this sounds like I'm going all
over the place, but I'm going to connect all of
this together for you by the end of the show.
When I was growing up, one of the weirdest beings
that I came across was this character, you know, just
in literature called spring Hill Jack. Okay, and I to
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this day I am intrigued with spring Hill Jack because
I don't know what what to make of this thing. Okay,
let me just sort of give you the basic story.
Spring Hill spring heeled, like, you know, a guy who
has springs on his hills who can jump really, really far.
He is an entity in English folklore of the Victorian era.
The first claimed sighting of spring Hill Jack was an
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eighteen thirty seven and there are many theories about the
identity of spring Hill Jack. U. He inspired a lot
of fiction, and let me try to describe for you
in a nutshell, spring Hill Jack was this humanoid being
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that kind of looked like the devil. He had horns
and sort of a Van Dyke beard, and he often
wore a cape and he would jump out of the
shadows at night and sort of terrorize people. He would
just jump out of the shadows and smack a cop
in the face and then just jump over fences and
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disappear like some kind of kangaroo. Uh. There were some
occasions where he would jump out and sort of you know,
touch women inappropriately, and this became such a problem. I mean,
there were a whole special sections of law enforcement that
spent years trying to figure out is this is this
a being? Is this a man who's dressed up? Because
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he would do these superhuman things. For example, sometimes he
would breathe fire in people's faces and scorch them. So
you have this guy who can hop incredible distances and
disappear in the shadows. It just comes out and does
nasty means stuff blows fire in your face. I mean
they say. Everybody said he had a frightful and terrifying appearance.
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He had clawed hands and eyes that resembled red balls
of fire. One report claimed that beneath a black coat cloak,
he wore a helmet and a tight fitting white garment
like an oil skin. But some of the people said
that these flames that he would breathe out were sort
of blue and white, and his claws seemed sort of metallic.
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Could this have been some kind of crazy guy who
was some kind of like diabolical steampunk dude who created
this costume, who was sort of like the evil Batman
who just decided to go around and dormant people. It's
an unsolved mystery. This went on for years, and nobody
knows to this day what spring Hill Jack really was.
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And so look, let me just give you a little
bit more information about uh. Like some of the times
where people encountered him. Uh. Jane Aslop was a woman
who reported that on the night of February nineteenth of
eighteen thirty eight, She answered the door of her father's
house to a man claiming to be a police officer,
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who told her to bring a light, claiming, quote, we
have spring heeled jack here in the lane. And she
brought the person a candle and noticed that he wore
a large cloak, and the moment she handed him the candle, however,
he threw off the cloak. I guess what he quote
presented a most hideous and frightful appearance end quote, vomiting
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blue and white flame from his mouth, while his eyes
resembled red balls of fire. Ms All Slap also reported
that he wore a large helmet. And she's the one
who said that his clothing, which appeared to be very
tight fitting, resembled white oil skin. I'm not sure exactly
what it is, but I can imagine. Without saying a word,
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he caught hold of her and began tearing her gown
with his claws, which she said, we're certainly of quote
some metallic substance end quote. She screened for help and
managed to get away from him and ran toward the house.
He caught her on the steps and tore her neck
and arms with his claws. She was rescued by one
of her sisters, after which her assailant fled. Okay, Um,
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there's another case here, which is the case of It's
called the Scales case. UM. Eighteen year old Lucy Skills
and her sister were returning home after visiting their brother,
a butcher, who lived in a respectable part of the area. UM.
She told the police in her deposition that as she
and her sister were passing along this alleyway called the
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Green Dragon Alley, they saw a sort of a person
standing at an angle, and she was walking in front
of her sister, and just as she came up to
the person, who was wearing a large cloak, he quote
spurred a quantity of blue flame in her face, which
deprived her of sight and so alarmed her that she
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instantly dropped to the ground and was seized with violent fits,
which continued for several hours. Um. Okay, we're coming up
on a break. We come back, I'll tell you a
little bit more about like this guy, this thing, who
or what was, and perhaps some similar beings that we
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have to be concerned about. Historically speaking, I'm Joshua pe Warren.
You're listening to strange things on the I Heart radio
and Coast to Coast Damn Paranormal Podcast Network and I
will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things on
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the I Heart Radio and STA Coast. I am Paranormal
Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, And this
is the show where the unusual becomes usual. And apparently
in a town called Lincolnshire and the autumn of eighteen
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seventy seven, spring Hill Jack was seen hopping around there
and angry mobs supposedly chased him and cornered him, and
uh some residents even fired guns at him, to no effect.
And as usual, he was said to a vague use
of his leaping abilities to lose the crowd and jump
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away into the night, disappearing once again. Nobody knows what
to make of this. Uh, you know, it's been a
fixture and popular popular culture for a long time. People
in London would often equate his name with that of
the Boogeyman, the evil. The character was written into a
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number of the Penny Dreadful stories during the latter half
of the nineteenth century. And even though I mean, like
some people said, this could have been this rich Irish nobleman,
the Marcus of Waterford, who had a reputation for being
mechanically gifted and like you know, and enjoyed pranking people
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and had a sinister side, a mischievous I don't know.
We don't know. A lot of people think, you know,
this could be an extraterrestrial, This could be a superhuman
and entrydimensional being that, this could have been some kind
of encrypted Authors like Lauren Coleman and Jerome Clark they
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list spring Hill Jack in a category they call phantom attackers.
Another example of this would be one called the Mad
Gaster of Mattun. Phantom attackers, they usually appear to be
human but maybe perceived as sort of prosaic criminals and
display extraordinary abilities. I don't know, maybe we need to
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make a movie about this. Huh. There you go. I
gave somebody a good idea. But you know what, when
you when you read about this kind of stuff, it
reminds me of cases like one a little closer to
where I grew up. And when I grew up in
North Carolina and South Carolina, we had this being called
the lizard Man, first reported in the nineteen eighties. The
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lizard Man was this, you know, like seven foot tall reptilian.
I think the fair maybe the first case was in
ninet the Sheriff's department investigated a report of a car
damaged overnight torn up outside Bishopville, South Carolina. Uh, tooth
marks and scratches and muddy footprints were left behind. And uh.
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Then finally there was a seventeen year old local named
for Davis, who said that lizard man appeared in front
of his car one night as as a green against
seven foot tall thing with three fingers, red eyes, skin
like a lizard, snake like scales. A bunch of people
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saw a lizard man and this became such a big
topic in the local news that somebody put out, like
I think it was a radio station, put out a
one million dollar reward to anybody who could capture the
lizard man alive. And oh my gosh, that created a ruckus.
I mean, talk about a bunch of drunk nudes looking
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for an excuse to go out into the swamps with
their rifles. And you know the thing is this is
still it's it's an unsolved mystery. But back like you know,
over ten years ago, I was working on this television series.
I was a cast member. It was called Paranormal Paparazzi
was on the Travel Channel. One of the stories that
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I covered was the lizard Man, and I figured that
it was probably just some kind of a prankster, you know.
But here I left with a different attitude. I went
down there and I actually spent time and in the
home of the man who was the sheriff at that time,
Sheriff Trusdale, and he's convinced that it was a real creature,
and he had all kinds of evidence that he showed
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me and my producer, see Eric Scott, right there on camera,
and then he offered to take us out into the
swamp and show us where these incidents had happened. And
guess who joined us the current sheriff. So what we
had the current sheriff there of the county, as well
as the former sheriff uh taking, you know, chaperoning me
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and Eric all around and telling us stories and introducing
us to witnesses. It's wild as a matter as a
matter of fact. If you want to see that segment
for free, all you have to do is go to
Joshua P. Warren dot com and there's a section called
TV and Film Work where I give examples of some
of the stuff that I've done. On television over the years,
and you'll see that report there. And I left there
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after talking to these witnesses and seeing these markings thinking like,
I believe there was a real creature here involved in
this whole mix. And now those kind of seem like
maybe these are aliens or interdimensional weirdies of some kind.
But this, I'm gonna take a little bit of a
twist here again, I'm gonna tie this together. This is
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usually considered a ghost, okay, la la la la rona,
la rona Okay. In Mexican folklore, La la Rona, the
weeping woman is a vengeful ghost who roams waterfront areas
mourning her children, whom she drowned. And it says here
that this story goes back a long way, but it's
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primarily I mean, like it's told throughout Mexico, Central America,
South America. They're a lot of different versions, but the
typical version is a beautiful woman named Maria. She marries
this rich, you know, rancher type guy. They have some kids.
One day, Maria sees her husband with another woman, and
in a fit of blind rage, she drowns their kids
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in a river, which she immediately regrets and then she
you know, she is consumed by her guilt and so
she drowns herself as well, but is unable to enter
the afterlife because she's forced to be in purgatory and
roam the earth until she finds her children. And this
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is all throughout many of these again Latin cultures, as
as a cautionary tale and also a way of like,
you know, scaring kids. Nobody is sure exactly where the
story of the Weeping female um phantom came from, and
you can read more about different versions of that. But
here's why I wanted to bring this up. When I
was in Puerto Rico, there was I I lived on
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the southwestern coast of Puerto Rico in a town called
Bron and it was right next to town called Lajas
and La Haasa is where we had the Laguna Carthagena,
which was a the Ufo Lagoon. A lot of paranormal
stuff was happening around La Haas, and when I was
talking to people about weird stories, I would hear that
La Lorona Uh had inspired some very interesting activity in
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the community and years past, I think, like in the
early nineteen nineties, they said that there was this creek
out there in La Haas where at night people would
see La Lorona and and she's got the white gown on,
and she's got the long hair, and she's weeping and shrieking,
and and I mean, this became such a big thing
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that like all the high school kids would go there
and try to see if they could catch a glimpse
of this. And they were, they and they were they
were seeing this figure and fleeing in a horror every night.
And this went on for a long time until finally
the truth was revealed. There was this one gas station
that was nearby, and apparently I was told the guy
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who owned the gas station he was trying to drum
up business, and so he would put on a white
gown and a wig, and he would go out there
and creep down along the banks of this creek at night,
you know, and come out and scared a crap out
of people all year long, because everybody who came out
would stop at his gas station and you know, buy
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a snack or a drink or a fill up. So
but he finally got busted. Okay, two recents. I'm I'm
connecting all these things together. Number one is in each
one of these cases there may actually be a real phenomenon. Okay,
we don't know what the original spring Hill Jack was.
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We don't know what the original lizard Man was. We
don't know the circumstances of the original La Lorona, but
it became so popular that we can feel confident that
it did inspire hoaxes to go out there and take
advantage of that and to start, you know, pranking people
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and scaring people. And I know that they think they're
doing that all and good fun. But the problem is
people who take advantage of real encounters like this and
go out and use them for pranks, they muddy the
water for legitimate research. One of the main reasons so
many paranormal phenomena are easily to dismiss is because you
have one person who may go out and and try
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to do a copycat fake thing. And it's possible that
there was a real spring Hill Jack, and then people
went out and decided to pretend to be spring Hill
Jack and and and abuse the fear that people had
same thing with lizard Man, etcetera. Was this a guy
in a suit? Eventually we just don't know. But just
because there are a counterfeit dollar bills in the world.
That doesn't mean there are no real ones. I was
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watching one of these shows the other day, but one
of these American greed episodes, and they were talking about
a guy who made a fortune selling fake vintage wine
for millions and millions of dollars. People will do anything
for a buck. So it becomes a big hall of
mirrors when you when you start trying to sort through
(36:29):
these things. But let's ask ourselves a bigger question. There
is a new story, a new news story from NASA
about a major project, a major endeavor, and they are
going to invite whatever is out there, whatever aliens, whatever
(36:52):
entry dimensionals, whatever being, They're going to invite them to
come here to planet Earth using a level of technology
that is well, it's it's greater than ever before. We
have better satellite dishes, we have bigger scopes, more powerful everything.
When we come back, I'm gonna tell you more about
(37:14):
that and say, you know, we have to think it
like is this is this a good idea? Is it?
And then also I have some pretty wild emails I
want to read to you. Um, do we want more
spring Hill? Jack's more lizard Men? I'm Joshua P. Warren.
You're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio
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and Coast to Coast and Parinormal Podcast Network. I'll be
back after these important messages. Welcome back to the final
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segment of this edition of Strange Things Well the I
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I am your host, Joshua pe Warren. And remember how
in the book and movie Jurassic Park, the big question was,
you know, just because you can do something scientifically, does
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that mean you should Well, the New York Post is
saying headline, NASA to launch naked pictures of humans to
space in hope of quote, attracting aliens end quote, and
they're reporting on a story by Charlotte Edwards in the
Sun and says NASA scientists planned to launch pictures of
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naked humans. Uh. The depictions will also include an invitation
to respond should an intelligent alien race find the space nudes. Fortunately,
the hypothetical aliens should not be too shocked by the
nudes because the pictures aren't that graphic, but a drawing
of a naked man and a woman next to a
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depiction of DNA. The man and woman are waving and
an attempt to look more inviting. It's part of a
study called the Beacon in the Galaxy, and the main
aim is to send a message to any alien civilizations
out there. They're kind of following up on what the
Arecibo Observatory did in Puerto Rico years ago, and so
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right now, um, they're sending up this radio signal. It's
a binary code basically zeros and ones that draws a
very very simple basic picture with some very very basic
colors from satellite array in California and then the big
old radio satellite the dish there in China, and uh,
(40:08):
let's see. I'm not sure exactly women they're gonna do this, um,
but they have some other like basic mathematical and physical
concepts that they're encoding in this about gravity um. And
it's it's not that different than what we did with
with the Pioneer plaques that were sent on the nineteen
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seventy two Pioneer ten in nineteen seventy three Pioneer eleven missions,
but those were pictures like like plaques attached to the
craft and there so encountering what you'd have to to
be much much luckier to encounter one of those than
(40:52):
to pick up this signal that we're sending out there
right now. Now, Look, I have done my share of
inviting alien ends to come and visit us, so I
am nobody to criticize a mission like this. But look,
I realized there are people out there who say, I'm
being naive. You don't know what you're doing. You don't
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want this, You don't want more lizard men, you don't
want more spring hill jacks. We these are the types
of beings that we're going to attract. I don't know.
I guess I'm too curious, and and the curiosity kills
the kid. I just say, all right, let's do it.
Let's get this over with before I die. I'd like
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to see what's out there. That's just me. So I'm
okay with it, But I don't know, are you okay?
Let's move on to some listener oriented stuff before we
have to go. Uh. Let me remind you now, this
might be the last time you hear about this if
you live near Alexandria, Virginia. Jim Kalana, the composer, is
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going to be debuting his composition called Joshua's Shop and Miracles.
Excuse me, Joshua's Shop of Miracles and Curiosities. The world
premier there will be on May twenty two at two pm,
performed by the American Youth phil Harmonic at the Rachel M.
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Schlessinger Concert Hall and Arts Center. And if you want
to get a ticket to that, it's uh, they're very affordable.
I'm sure. Just go to Jim Kalonna dot com. J
I M c O l O n n A. I
am honored that he has composed a piece of music
like this based upon my work. J I M C
O l O n n A. And if you go
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there and listen to it, hey give me your feedback.
I'd love to hear about it. I wish I could
be there, but I already have a trip planned and
I'll be telling you more about that my my crazy
travel schedule in the near future. Okay, so let's go
to some emails here. We have one from Crystal in California,
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and she says in the subject lying the miraculous prayer
Board strikes again. I had some unfortunate circumstances happened that
knocked my finances way down, and then I had three
bills do and there was not even enough money in
the bank to do the minimum payments, and this was
the first for me. My stress was for the roof
(43:29):
many exclamation points. I scraped from everywhere and put everything
in my bill pank account and it was still short.
I was so stressed, I was getting a migraine. And
then I remember it. I haven't used the Miraculous prayer
Board in a long time, so I got it right
away and wished to have these bills paid and some
money left over because I need some more food too.
(43:50):
And the next day, still looking for a solution, I
checked my bank account again and I was stunned. My
Etsy shop had to posited. I don't want to say
how much, but blank amount of money. She says, my
shops are not due to make any deposits. And I
went to both of my shops and neither one says
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they made a deposits. And yet there it is, and
my bills and food are covered. L O L. I
have never been so happy about a deposit in my life.
The Miraculous prayer Board is amazing. Many exclamation points. Well,
I'm so happy to hear that, crystal and um. At
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some point, if you'd like, I can tell people how
to visit your Etsy shop. But I don't want to
do that without your explicit permission, But that's cool. If
you are interested in experimenting like Crystal is doing, just
go to Joshua P. Warren dot com and click the
link to the Curiosity Shop and you can read about
the Miraculous prayer Board. It comes with a money back guarantee,
(44:55):
but you know what, nobody ever asks for it. Okay,
And here is an email I got from a man
named Ronald, and he says, UM, have you say? He goes,
what is your opinion on the s l S cameras
that some paranormal investigators use on TV? Are they truly
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mapping entities? And have you ever used one? I love
your show, keep up the great content. Uh well, thank
you very much for that, Ronald. And Okay, so for
people who may not be familiar, sometimes you're watching a
ghost hunting show and they have a camera that UM
has a piece of software. They're the kind of latches
onto uh data points in our room and connects the
(45:45):
dots and forms kind of a stick figure that looks
very humanoid. And it's pretty compelling to see that. UM.
And I know that it was sort of invented for
the video gaming industry, so that you could move of
in your living room or whatever, and a little camera
would be able to pick up your movements and interpret
(46:06):
them and uh, create an action for your avatar in
the game. And I'm sure they're used in Hollywood for
special effects. So anyway, um, I wrote him back and
I said, you know, I have toyed with these SLS
cameras and that type of software. But here is the problem.
The tech is created biased. Now, I know that sounds weird.
(46:32):
You don't think of technology as being biased necessarily, But
I went on to say the software is predisposed to
look for human shapes, and so it struggles to turn
almost anything into a human shape. Now this is a
conundrum because the camera maybe picking up a real phantom,
(46:55):
or it may simply be trying to find something human.
So in many ways, it just mimics the human brains,
perceptions and biases. You know. It's kind of like electronic paradoia.
So I said, in a nutshell, it's it's fascinating. Before
(47:18):
it to be credible, I would want to see multiple
SLS cameras, at least three, capture the same figure from
three different angles. That now, that would be interesting. That
that that would be impressive. Uh. Anytime you're looking at
something from one particular point of view, then it's much
(47:41):
much easier to just h have you know, shadows and
reflections and optical illusions and effects that can create, you know,
again the connection of the dots, but yeah, different angles,
that would be cool. Okay, we're almost out of time here,
and it's pretty soon I'm going to be asking you
(48:01):
to go on my social media and to send me
questions about anything you want. It doesn't even have to
be paranormal necessarily. Uh. And I am going to do
oh at least a show where to where I just
sit down and answer your questions. That's gonna go in
(48:22):
any direction, I'm sure, so stay tuned for that. All right,
it is now time for you to relax, if you
can close your eyes, kick back, and take a deep breath.
This tone, it just keeps working wonders for people. A
lot of people rely on it every week. So here
it is. This is the good Fortune tone. Meditate on this.
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like a wizard of weird. This is Strange Things. I
am Joshua pe Warren. At each week on this show,
I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises,
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and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more. On this edition of the show, Springhilled, Jack,
lizard Man, and Lalla Rona. Do you know what any
of those are? Maybe you know what all of them are? Well, listen,
(01:47):
I have connected these things in my mind and I'm
going to explain to you in this show what that
connection is. And these are some of the weirdest stories
that I've come across. Okay, so, I'm looking forward to
digging into them. And these are ones that I've I've
really never talked about in depth before. But first, but first,
(02:10):
I have a very interesting update for you, some really
cool news. So Justin Perry is a good friend of
mine who lives in Texas and he is a manifestation master.
He owns this extremely popular channel on YouTube called You
(02:30):
Are Creators. So if you just go to YouTube dot
com type in you are Creators, that will pop up.
He has one point six six million subscribers and eight
hundred and twenty videos and it's just growing every day.
And one of the things about Justin and by the way,
he has this affirmation that he uses all the time,
(02:53):
and he says it's extremely powerful. He loves coming up
with affirmations that seem very effective for people. So just
on a side note, take a note of this. Uh.
He says, here, here you go, money comes to me
and expected and unexpected ways. And then you repeat that
five times with emotion and conviction every day. Here it
(03:15):
is again, money comes to me in expected and unexpected ways,
five times a day. He says, money you you would
just the abundance will start to shower you. You will
be amazed. So I enjoy sharing that with you. And
he is a very very busy guy. Okay, he's involved
in lots of enterprises. He and his wife have three sons.
(03:39):
As a matter of fact, one of his sons is
named Joshua. And we were having this conversation about parents
naming their kids Joshua, and I mentioned that, you know,
my mom and dad, they like to give their kids
biblical names, and so they they admired Joshua from the Bible.
And of course you've heard the song Joshua fit the
(03:59):
Bad of Jericho, right, and that is it's about this
incident in the Book of Joshua, the first battle fought
by the Israelites in the course of the conquest of Canaan.
And they say that, um, the Israelites they marched around
the city walls once a day for six days, and
then seven times on the seventh day, and they blew trumpets,
(04:21):
and the walls, the great mighty walls around the city
just kicked the crack that they came crumbling and tumbling down.
And so that's when the Israelites were able to go
in and uh and take over. And what's kind of
funny is that Lauren pointed out the other day that
there was a Garth Brooks concert in Louisiana. This is
(04:43):
just days ago, and over one hundred thousand fans showed
up at l s u S Tiger Stadium and they
were dancing and singing so hard that it actually caused
a small earthquake. It literally registered on a seismograph. So
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maybe that's similar to what happened in the Bible, some
kind of a man made earthquake, you know. Tesla claimed
that he had sort of an earthquake machine that he
could use. But anyway, aside from being fascinated with manifestation, uh,
Justin is extremely into UFOs and alien contact. He's one
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of the most interested people I've ever met. And as
soon as he heard that I was working with Jason
Saracchi to produce these Vegas UFO skywatches, Justin bought an
airplane ticket and he flew here and we got together
on April the twenty ninth of this year two because
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it was basically the new moon and nice and dark,
and what we do is we can, but we gave him,
you know, this v I P experience. Uh, it was
just him, Jason, myself and my wife Lauren. And when
we do these skywatches with third generation night vision goggles,
we take we take people out into the desert at
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least like thirty maybe thirty minutes from Vegas to get
away from light pollution. And we have different locations we
can pick and choose from, and so we keep them
most of the time confidential. We don't tell people exactly
where we're gonna be. So this first night, okay, well
here the first at the first sight of that night,
let me just tell you what happened. So, uh, Justin
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has never used third generation night vision goggles before. And
this technology is so precious that it's it's literally illegal
to allow a non US citizen to look through a
pair of third generation night vision goggles. It's a federal offense.
It's due to what's called I TAR I T, a
arts regulatory for you know, weapons systems and all that.
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But so we you know, we have to make sure
we only allow you as citizens to participate, and some
people don't understand that, but we don't have a choice.
So anyway, Um, so we get out there in the
field and Jason Saracci, of course he has this excellent setup. Uh,
he's got every type of camera you can want, all
these different goggles, and I mean the weather was ideal,
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the sky was clear, I mean it was ah, we
just knew we were going to see something. Well the
first thing that happened. It was kind of really great
luck and kind of bad luck at the same time.
And let me explain what I mean. Okay, so we
had we each had a pair of third generation night
vision goggles at this time. Lauren was not around and
(07:40):
it was just Jason and Justin and myself, the three
the three J's in the field. And because that okay,
then we only use the finest third generation night vision goggles.
These are called Para temporal night vision goggles. And if
you want to learn all about them, and you could
watch videos and stuff, go to Para Temporal dot com
p A r A t E M p O r
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A L Para temporal dot com and uh, and you
can learn why that we only use them. And a
pair of these costs thousands of dollars. Uh. There are
some you can get that are less expensive, but we
are using like the criminala crime. So in order to
film through these third gen goggles, what you do is
you take these goggles which are ordinarily kind of like
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just binoculars that you would look through, which allow you
to see into the invisible infrared realm. And it's unbelievable
because for every star you can see with your naked eye,
you can see like twenty or thirty through the goggles.
I mean, the sky just explodes and sparkles like diamonds.
It's amazing. But when you get these things, you're you're
looking directly through them, and if you want to record
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what you're seeing, then traditionally what you do is you
kind of remove one of the eye pieces and then
you have an adapter that you can use to screw
on a camera. So having the camera there is really
great because obviously you can record what the goggles see,
but it also kind of takes away from your experience
using the goggles in real time because you're giving up
(09:07):
an eyepiece there and there. There's there's something sort of
between your face and and the goggles. So the what
I'm getting out here is at this point, Jason, he
had just gotten his camera hooked up to his third
gen night vision goggles, and Justin and I didn't have
cameras hooked up yet, and I was just sort of
(09:28):
showing him how to use the goggles, and he's just going, Wow,
this is amazing, you know. And so at one point
I said to um, I okay, at one point I'm
looking up and it was just like so lucky, was
so serendipitous. Justin and I were looking at the same
spot and the sky at the same time, and we
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both go WHOA, this big, bright, like jagged looking object
that seemed very low and close to us goes darting
right over our heads and we're just screaming, and and
of course, poor old Jason he's just getting his camera
hooked up and he was where is it? Where is it?
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And this thing we couldn't have been there longer than
ten seconds before I just shot right off into space.
And so the two guys who saw it, Justin myself,
we're lucky that we both got to see that was
super lucky. But we didn't have the cameras on our goggles.
And the one the one guy who did Jason, he
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he wasn't looking in the same spot at that time,
so we didn't get proof of that. But that sucked.
But don't worry. Don't worry, because later on something very
interesting happened. We ended up seeing quite a few UFOs
at that at that spot, and Jason got some great footage.
But I think the big achievement of the night was
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what happened when we decided to drive an hour to
make the light the night longer, which is something we
wouldn't ordinarily do on a SkyWatch unless somebody requested that
extra time. And um, we we we took our little
group up north of Las Vegas on the route to
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area fifty one to where I discovered the so called
time warp. So here we are out there late at night,
and it's so dark, and it's eerily quiet, and we're
ready now, Okay, we're prepared now, and we all saw
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something and it's on video. Um, when we come back
from this break, I'm gonna tell you what we saw,
and I'm going to play some audio for you of
us reacting to what we were seeing. So cool, and
then of course after that, I'll finally get into all
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these weird beings that I've been intrigued by that may
or may not even have a connection to some of
these well aliens interdimensional beings that I was spring Hill Jack,
lizard Man. Anyway, Uh, listen, to this. I've told you before.
I just bought a new piece of property at one
of the most paranormal hotspots on planet Earth. I have
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the deed in my hand. I will soon be telling
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on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of Weird,
Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my
studio and Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day
is golden and every night is silver, and here we
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were on one of those silver nights at the time warp.
This is the place where in two thousand eighteen I
made a discovery that went viral, made international headlines. I
used Ron Heath's d T meter, his differential time rate meter,
and discovered this spot on the side of the road
on the way to Area fifty one, where I was
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able to measure time momentarily slowing down, which at that
time mainstream scientists said should not be possible. But just
since then, in the past four years or so, there
have been a lot of advances that are starting to
confirm more and more that time is a little slippery
and lucy gusco all over the place. And of course
(14:40):
then things got even weirder when I found that later
on that this was a paranormal hot spot where people
have been seeing UFOs, having close encounters, experiencing missing time.
I've talked about it a lot, and once before Jason
went out there at night and he got some kind
of a weird light in the desert in the middle
of no are. Well. Here we were back there again
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late at night, perfect conditions and lo and behold, boom,
here we have out in the desert. Pal a light
that appears, and then a second light that appears, and
they're drifting around the desert. And these are not visible
to the naked eye ex except occasionally you might get
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a little hint of a reddish color, but usually they
were not available. And let let me just play the audio,
just part of the audio from you know what what
happened to us? Our reaction when we solve these lights appear.
You're gonna you're gonna hear I think all of us
in this. I'm talking, Jason's talking, Justin's talking. I think
even Lauren chimes in at a certain point. So here
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you go. This will give you an idea of how
exciting this was for us. There's something down there as
bright as hell, you know, justin here quickly, Yeah, Lauren,
I don't know what the hell that is. There's two
of them looked over there. Man, they looked for the
Nike and eye you can't see. But look, there's something
(16:09):
flash and it just crossed the field. It's in the
same place it was before. It's about to disappear. So
you look with your naked eye, justin there's nothing there.
What the hell is that it's gone? Oh, this is
exactly where I saw. It's further away. Now do you
see a far just moved, Lauren, are you recording that?
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Look right down the trail. It's gone, it just disappeared. Well,
it's I could barely see a little bit. Holy again
up the lights. Back, it's down there again down the
trail this time. Is that we gotta go down there?
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Like I think this warrants a walk. It's gone. It's
there still, it's still there. Now it's gone. What the
hell was that? It's back again. It's way further down
the trail though, way further down back. Look at that. Yeah,
it's it's it's it is bad. Okay, it's bad. Yeah,
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I'm videotaping. It's gone again. Yeah, it appears and disappears. Now.
Jason was a brave man that night, and he actually
walked by himself way down that trail to see if
he could get a closer look. Even though there are
mountain lions and coyotes and rattlesnakes and scorpions, they was gone.
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It was gone. If you want to see this footage, though,
if you actually want to see what we're talking about.
John Carter up there in Canada, he put these clips together.
All you have to do is go to YouTube and
just do a search for his channel, which is UFOs Worldwide,
and you'll see he's called it two Orbs called in
Nevada Desert. Two Orbs Caught in Nevada Desert. And I'll
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try to remember to post a link to that uh
on my Twitter for you as well. But anyway, you
can see how excited we were. As a matter of fact,
Justin said that he had such a great time he's
already planning his next trip back. And so that's why
I don't know how long we're going to make these
things available, um, but can you imagine what a surprising
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gift that would be for somebody? I mean, like, like,
what's cooler than going out and having experiences like that
with your own eyes. If you want to look into
coming to the area, we'll do our best to work
with you and accommodate your schedule. Just go to Vegas
UFOs dot com. It's also okay to bring uh kids.
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We originally were uncertain about that, but we've decided that
a lot of people in town, you know, they want
to show their kids this stuff, so we're cool with that.
So just go to Vegas UFOs dot com. But we're
not gonna be taking a lot of reservations this year,
so hopefully you'll be able to join us, So listen. Um.
I was thinking about what, you know, what we were
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seeing that night, and what's going on at the time
warp and what kind of beings might be coming here
from other dimensions, and I started my mind started racing
about some of my favorite bizarre, unsolved mysteries, and I thought,
you know, there's some some stuff that I've never really
talked about in depth on this show that may have
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something to do with visitors from these other places. And
I promise, I know this sounds like I'm going all
over the place, but I'm going to connect all of
this together for you by the end of the show.
When I was growing up, one of the weirdest beings
that I came across was this character, you know, just
in literature called spring Hill Jack. Okay, and I to
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this day I am intrigued with spring Hill Jack because
I don't know what what to make of this thing. Okay,
let me just sort of give you the basic story.
Spring Hill spring heeled, like, you know, a guy who
has springs on his hills who can jump really, really far.
He is an entity in English folklore of the Victorian era.
The first claimed sighting of spring Hill Jack was an
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eighteen thirty seven and there are many theories about the
identity of spring Hill Jack. U. He inspired a lot
of fiction, and let me try to describe for you
in a nutshell, spring Hill Jack was this humanoid being
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that kind of looked like the devil. He had horns
and sort of a Van Dyke beard, and he often
wore a cape and he would jump out of the
shadows at night and sort of terrorize people. He would
just jump out of the shadows and smack a cop
in the face and then just jump over fences and
(21:00):
disappear like some kind of kangaroo. Uh. There were some
occasions where he would jump out and sort of you know,
touch women inappropriately, and this became such a problem. I mean,
there were a whole special sections of law enforcement that
spent years trying to figure out is this is this
a being? Is this a man who's dressed up? Because
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he would do these superhuman things. For example, sometimes he
would breathe fire in people's faces and scorch them. So
you have this guy who can hop incredible distances and
disappear in the shadows. It just comes out and does
nasty means stuff blows fire in your face. I mean
they say. Everybody said he had a frightful and terrifying appearance.
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He had clawed hands and eyes that resembled red balls
of fire. One report claimed that beneath a black coat cloak,
he wore a helmet and a tight fitting white garment
like an oil skin. But some of the people said
that these flames that he would breathe out were sort
of blue and white, and his claws seemed sort of metallic.
(22:11):
Could this have been some kind of crazy guy who
was some kind of like diabolical steampunk dude who created
this costume, who was sort of like the evil Batman
who just decided to go around and dormant people. It's
an unsolved mystery. This went on for years, and nobody
knows to this day what spring Hill Jack really was.
(22:33):
And so look, let me just give you a little
bit more information about uh. Like some of the times
where people encountered him. Uh. Jane Aslop was a woman
who reported that on the night of February nineteenth of
eighteen thirty eight, She answered the door of her father's
house to a man claiming to be a police officer,
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who told her to bring a light, claiming, quote, we
have spring heeled jack here in the lane. And she
brought the person a candle and noticed that he wore
a large cloak, and the moment she handed him the candle, however,
he threw off the cloak. I guess what he quote
presented a most hideous and frightful appearance end quote, vomiting
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blue and white flame from his mouth, while his eyes
resembled red balls of fire. Ms All Slap also reported
that he wore a large helmet. And she's the one
who said that his clothing, which appeared to be very
tight fitting, resembled white oil skin. I'm not sure exactly
what it is, but I can imagine. Without saying a word,
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he caught hold of her and began tearing her gown
with his claws, which she said, we're certainly of quote
some metallic substance end quote. She screened for help and
managed to get away from him and ran toward the house.
He caught her on the steps and tore her neck
and arms with his claws. She was rescued by one
of her sisters, after which her assailant fled. Okay, Um,
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there's another case here, which is the case of It's
called the Scales case. UM. Eighteen year old Lucy Skills
and her sister were returning home after visiting their brother,
a butcher, who lived in a respectable part of the area. UM.
She told the police in her deposition that as she
and her sister were passing along this alleyway called the
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Green Dragon Alley, they saw a sort of a person
standing at an angle, and she was walking in front
of her sister, and just as she came up to
the person, who was wearing a large cloak, he quote
spurred a quantity of blue flame in her face, which
deprived her of sight and so alarmed her that she
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instantly dropped to the ground and was seized with violent fits,
which continued for several hours. Um. Okay, we're coming up
on a break. We come back, I'll tell you a
little bit more about like this guy, this thing, who
or what was, and perhaps some similar beings that we
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have to be concerned about. Historically speaking, I'm Joshua pe Warren.
You're listening to strange things on the I Heart radio
and Coast to Coast Damn Paranormal Podcast Network and I
will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things on
(25:58):
the I Heart Radio and STA Coast. I am Paranormal
Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, And this
is the show where the unusual becomes usual. And apparently
in a town called Lincolnshire and the autumn of eighteen
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seventy seven, spring Hill Jack was seen hopping around there
and angry mobs supposedly chased him and cornered him, and
uh some residents even fired guns at him, to no effect.
And as usual, he was said to a vague use
of his leaping abilities to lose the crowd and jump
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away into the night, disappearing once again. Nobody knows what
to make of this. Uh, you know, it's been a
fixture and popular popular culture for a long time. People
in London would often equate his name with that of
the Boogeyman, the evil. The character was written into a
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number of the Penny Dreadful stories during the latter half
of the nineteenth century. And even though I mean, like
some people said, this could have been this rich Irish nobleman,
the Marcus of Waterford, who had a reputation for being
mechanically gifted and like you know, and enjoyed pranking people
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and had a sinister side, a mischievous I don't know.
We don't know. A lot of people think, you know,
this could be an extraterrestrial, This could be a superhuman
and entrydimensional being that, this could have been some kind
of encrypted Authors like Lauren Coleman and Jerome Clark they
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list spring Hill Jack in a category they call phantom attackers.
Another example of this would be one called the Mad
Gaster of Mattun. Phantom attackers, they usually appear to be
human but maybe perceived as sort of prosaic criminals and
display extraordinary abilities. I don't know, maybe we need to
(28:07):
make a movie about this. Huh. There you go. I
gave somebody a good idea. But you know what, when
you when you read about this kind of stuff, it
reminds me of cases like one a little closer to
where I grew up. And when I grew up in
North Carolina and South Carolina, we had this being called
the lizard Man, first reported in the nineteen eighties. The
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lizard Man was this, you know, like seven foot tall reptilian.
I think the fair maybe the first case was in
ninet the Sheriff's department investigated a report of a car
damaged overnight torn up outside Bishopville, South Carolina. Uh, tooth
marks and scratches and muddy footprints were left behind. And uh.
(28:57):
Then finally there was a seventeen year old local named
for Davis, who said that lizard man appeared in front
of his car one night as as a green against
seven foot tall thing with three fingers, red eyes, skin
like a lizard, snake like scales. A bunch of people
(29:18):
saw a lizard man and this became such a big
topic in the local news that somebody put out, like
I think it was a radio station, put out a
one million dollar reward to anybody who could capture the
lizard man alive. And oh my gosh, that created a ruckus.
I mean, talk about a bunch of drunk nudes looking
(29:40):
for an excuse to go out into the swamps with
their rifles. And you know the thing is this is
still it's it's an unsolved mystery. But back like you know,
over ten years ago, I was working on this television series.
I was a cast member. It was called Paranormal Paparazzi
was on the Travel Channel. One of the stories that
(30:00):
I covered was the lizard Man, and I figured that
it was probably just some kind of a prankster, you know.
But here I left with a different attitude. I went
down there and I actually spent time and in the
home of the man who was the sheriff at that time,
Sheriff Trusdale, and he's convinced that it was a real creature,
and he had all kinds of evidence that he showed
(30:21):
me and my producer, see Eric Scott, right there on camera,
and then he offered to take us out into the
swamp and show us where these incidents had happened. And
guess who joined us the current sheriff. So what we
had the current sheriff there of the county, as well
as the former sheriff uh taking, you know, chaperoning me
(30:45):
and Eric all around and telling us stories and introducing
us to witnesses. It's wild as a matter as a
matter of fact. If you want to see that segment
for free, all you have to do is go to
Joshua P. Warren dot com and there's a section called
TV and Film Work where I give examples of some
of the stuff that I've done. On television over the years,
and you'll see that report there. And I left there
(31:08):
after talking to these witnesses and seeing these markings thinking like,
I believe there was a real creature here involved in
this whole mix. And now those kind of seem like
maybe these are aliens or interdimensional weirdies of some kind.
But this, I'm gonna take a little bit of a
twist here again, I'm gonna tie this together. This is
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usually considered a ghost, okay, la la la la rona,
la rona Okay. In Mexican folklore, La la Rona, the
weeping woman is a vengeful ghost who roams waterfront areas
mourning her children, whom she drowned. And it says here
that this story goes back a long way, but it's
(31:54):
primarily I mean, like it's told throughout Mexico, Central America,
South America. They're a lot of different versions, but the
typical version is a beautiful woman named Maria. She marries
this rich, you know, rancher type guy. They have some kids.
One day, Maria sees her husband with another woman, and
in a fit of blind rage, she drowns their kids
(32:15):
in a river, which she immediately regrets and then she
you know, she is consumed by her guilt and so
she drowns herself as well, but is unable to enter
the afterlife because she's forced to be in purgatory and
roam the earth until she finds her children. And this
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is all throughout many of these again Latin cultures, as
as a cautionary tale and also a way of like,
you know, scaring kids. Nobody is sure exactly where the
story of the Weeping female um phantom came from, and
you can read more about different versions of that. But
here's why I wanted to bring this up. When I
was in Puerto Rico, there was I I lived on
(33:01):
the southwestern coast of Puerto Rico in a town called
Bron and it was right next to town called Lajas
and La Haasa is where we had the Laguna Carthagena,
which was a the Ufo Lagoon. A lot of paranormal
stuff was happening around La Haas, and when I was
talking to people about weird stories, I would hear that
La Lorona Uh had inspired some very interesting activity in
(33:28):
the community and years past, I think, like in the
early nineteen nineties, they said that there was this creek
out there in La Haas where at night people would
see La Lorona and and she's got the white gown on,
and she's got the long hair, and she's weeping and shrieking,
and and I mean, this became such a big thing
(33:51):
that like all the high school kids would go there
and try to see if they could catch a glimpse
of this. And they were, they and they were they
were seeing this figure and fleeing in a horror every night.
And this went on for a long time until finally
the truth was revealed. There was this one gas station
that was nearby, and apparently I was told the guy
(34:14):
who owned the gas station he was trying to drum
up business, and so he would put on a white
gown and a wig, and he would go out there
and creep down along the banks of this creek at night,
you know, and come out and scared a crap out
of people all year long, because everybody who came out
would stop at his gas station and you know, buy
(34:36):
a snack or a drink or a fill up. So
but he finally got busted. Okay, two recents. I'm I'm
connecting all these things together. Number one is in each
one of these cases there may actually be a real phenomenon. Okay,
we don't know what the original spring Hill Jack was.
(34:59):
We don't know what the original lizard Man was. We
don't know the circumstances of the original La Lorona, but
it became so popular that we can feel confident that
it did inspire hoaxes to go out there and take
advantage of that and to start, you know, pranking people
(35:22):
and scaring people. And I know that they think they're
doing that all and good fun. But the problem is
people who take advantage of real encounters like this and
go out and use them for pranks, they muddy the
water for legitimate research. One of the main reasons so
many paranormal phenomena are easily to dismiss is because you
have one person who may go out and and try
(35:44):
to do a copycat fake thing. And it's possible that
there was a real spring Hill Jack, and then people
went out and decided to pretend to be spring Hill
Jack and and and abuse the fear that people had
same thing with lizard Man, etcetera. Was this a guy
in a suit? Eventually we just don't know. But just
because there are a counterfeit dollar bills in the world.
That doesn't mean there are no real ones. I was
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watching one of these shows the other day, but one
of these American greed episodes, and they were talking about
a guy who made a fortune selling fake vintage wine
for millions and millions of dollars. People will do anything
for a buck. So it becomes a big hall of
mirrors when you when you start trying to sort through
(36:29):
these things. But let's ask ourselves a bigger question. There
is a new story, a new news story from NASA
about a major project, a major endeavor, and they are
going to invite whatever is out there, whatever aliens, whatever
(36:52):
entry dimensionals, whatever being, They're going to invite them to
come here to planet Earth using a level of technology
that is well, it's it's greater than ever before. We
have better satellite dishes, we have bigger scopes, more powerful everything.
When we come back, I'm gonna tell you more about
(37:14):
that and say, you know, we have to think it
like is this is this a good idea? Is it?
And then also I have some pretty wild emails I
want to read to you. Um, do we want more
spring Hill? Jack's more lizard Men? I'm Joshua P. Warren.
You're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio
(37:38):
and Coast to Coast and Parinormal Podcast Network. I'll be
back after these important messages. Welcome back to the final
(38:19):
segment of this edition of Strange Things Well the I
Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network.
I am your host, Joshua pe Warren. And remember how
in the book and movie Jurassic Park, the big question was,
you know, just because you can do something scientifically, does
(38:39):
that mean you should Well, the New York Post is
saying headline, NASA to launch naked pictures of humans to
space in hope of quote, attracting aliens end quote, and
they're reporting on a story by Charlotte Edwards in the
Sun and says NASA scientists planned to launch pictures of
(39:03):
naked humans. Uh. The depictions will also include an invitation
to respond should an intelligent alien race find the space nudes. Fortunately,
the hypothetical aliens should not be too shocked by the
nudes because the pictures aren't that graphic, but a drawing
of a naked man and a woman next to a
(39:23):
depiction of DNA. The man and woman are waving and
an attempt to look more inviting. It's part of a
study called the Beacon in the Galaxy, and the main
aim is to send a message to any alien civilizations
out there. They're kind of following up on what the
Arecibo Observatory did in Puerto Rico years ago, and so
(39:46):
right now, um, they're sending up this radio signal. It's
a binary code basically zeros and ones that draws a
very very simple basic picture with some very very basic
colors from satellite array in California and then the big
old radio satellite the dish there in China, and uh,
(40:08):
let's see. I'm not sure exactly women they're gonna do this, um,
but they have some other like basic mathematical and physical
concepts that they're encoding in this about gravity um. And
it's it's not that different than what we did with
with the Pioneer plaques that were sent on the nineteen
(40:31):
seventy two Pioneer ten in nineteen seventy three Pioneer eleven missions,
but those were pictures like like plaques attached to the
craft and there so encountering what you'd have to to
be much much luckier to encounter one of those than
(40:52):
to pick up this signal that we're sending out there
right now. Now, Look, I have done my share of
inviting alien ends to come and visit us, so I
am nobody to criticize a mission like this. But look,
I realized there are people out there who say, I'm
being naive. You don't know what you're doing. You don't
(41:14):
want this, You don't want more lizard men, you don't
want more spring hill jacks. We these are the types
of beings that we're going to attract. I don't know.
I guess I'm too curious, and and the curiosity kills
the kid. I just say, all right, let's do it.
Let's get this over with before I die. I'd like
(41:36):
to see what's out there. That's just me. So I'm
okay with it, But I don't know, are you okay?
Let's move on to some listener oriented stuff before we
have to go. Uh. Let me remind you now, this
might be the last time you hear about this if
you live near Alexandria, Virginia. Jim Kalana, the composer, is
(42:00):
going to be debuting his composition called Joshua's Shop and Miracles.
Excuse me, Joshua's Shop of Miracles and Curiosities. The world
premier there will be on May twenty two at two pm,
performed by the American Youth phil Harmonic at the Rachel M.
(42:22):
Schlessinger Concert Hall and Arts Center. And if you want
to get a ticket to that, it's uh, they're very affordable.
I'm sure. Just go to Jim Kalonna dot com. J
I M c O l O n n A. I
am honored that he has composed a piece of music
like this based upon my work. J I M C
O l O n n A. And if you go
(42:46):
there and listen to it, hey give me your feedback.
I'd love to hear about it. I wish I could
be there, but I already have a trip planned and
I'll be telling you more about that my my crazy
travel schedule in the near future. Okay, so let's go
to some emails here. We have one from Crystal in California,
(43:07):
and she says in the subject lying the miraculous prayer
Board strikes again. I had some unfortunate circumstances happened that
knocked my finances way down, and then I had three
bills do and there was not even enough money in
the bank to do the minimum payments, and this was
the first for me. My stress was for the roof
(43:29):
many exclamation points. I scraped from everywhere and put everything
in my bill pank account and it was still short.
I was so stressed, I was getting a migraine. And
then I remember it. I haven't used the Miraculous prayer
Board in a long time, so I got it right
away and wished to have these bills paid and some
money left over because I need some more food too.
(43:50):
And the next day, still looking for a solution, I
checked my bank account again and I was stunned. My
Etsy shop had to posited. I don't want to say
how much, but blank amount of money. She says, my
shops are not due to make any deposits. And I
went to both of my shops and neither one says
(44:11):
they made a deposits. And yet there it is, and
my bills and food are covered. L O L. I
have never been so happy about a deposit in my life.
The Miraculous prayer Board is amazing. Many exclamation points. Well,
I'm so happy to hear that, crystal and um. At
(44:31):
some point, if you'd like, I can tell people how
to visit your Etsy shop. But I don't want to
do that without your explicit permission, But that's cool. If
you are interested in experimenting like Crystal is doing, just
go to Joshua P. Warren dot com and click the
link to the Curiosity Shop and you can read about
the Miraculous prayer Board. It comes with a money back guarantee,
(44:55):
but you know what, nobody ever asks for it. Okay,
And here is an email I got from a man
named Ronald, and he says, UM, have you say? He goes,
what is your opinion on the s l S cameras
that some paranormal investigators use on TV? Are they truly
(45:19):
mapping entities? And have you ever used one? I love
your show, keep up the great content. Uh well, thank
you very much for that, Ronald. And Okay, so for
people who may not be familiar, sometimes you're watching a
ghost hunting show and they have a camera that UM
has a piece of software. They're the kind of latches
onto uh data points in our room and connects the
(45:45):
dots and forms kind of a stick figure that looks
very humanoid. And it's pretty compelling to see that. UM.
And I know that it was sort of invented for
the video gaming industry, so that you could move of
in your living room or whatever, and a little camera
would be able to pick up your movements and interpret
(46:06):
them and uh, create an action for your avatar in
the game. And I'm sure they're used in Hollywood for
special effects. So anyway, um, I wrote him back and
I said, you know, I have toyed with these SLS
cameras and that type of software. But here is the problem.
The tech is created biased. Now, I know that sounds weird.
(46:32):
You don't think of technology as being biased necessarily, But
I went on to say the software is predisposed to
look for human shapes, and so it struggles to turn
almost anything into a human shape. Now this is a
conundrum because the camera maybe picking up a real phantom,
(46:55):
or it may simply be trying to find something human.
So in many ways, it just mimics the human brains,
perceptions and biases. You know. It's kind of like electronic paradoia.
So I said, in a nutshell, it's it's fascinating. Before
(47:18):
it to be credible, I would want to see multiple
SLS cameras, at least three, capture the same figure from
three different angles. That now, that would be interesting. That
that that would be impressive. Uh. Anytime you're looking at
something from one particular point of view, then it's much
(47:41):
much easier to just h have you know, shadows and
reflections and optical illusions and effects that can create, you know,
again the connection of the dots, but yeah, different angles,
that would be cool. Okay, we're almost out of time here,
and it's pretty soon I'm going to be asking you
(48:01):
to go on my social media and to send me
questions about anything you want. It doesn't even have to
be paranormal necessarily. Uh. And I am going to do
oh at least a show where to where I just
sit down and answer your questions. That's gonna go in
(48:22):
any direction, I'm sure, so stay tuned for that. All right,
it is now time for you to relax, if you
can close your eyes, kick back, and take a deep breath.
This tone, it just keeps working wonders for people. A
lot of people rely on it every week. So here
it is. This is the good Fortune tone. Meditate on this.
(49:12):
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