SYSK Selects: Was Atlantis A Real Place?

While the search for Atlantis has been pushed to the fringes since the 19th century, archaeologists have quietly pursued cities that may have inspired Plato to fabricate the mythical city. It looks like a team in Greece has found it.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello there, it's me Josh and for this week's s
Y s K Selex, I've chosen our episode. Was there
a real Atlantis? And it turns out they're very well
may have been. At the very least there's a very
exciting lost city. The archaeologists found that well, it may
have been the model for the Atlantis legend. I don't
want to ruin anything. I don't want to spoil anything,

(00:22):
So just kick back and enjoy this adventure episode. Welcome
to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,
and welcome to the podcast on Josh Clark Back in

(00:42):
the Saddle again with Charles W. Chuck Bryant. We share
a horse, we do. I have a horse side car.
Actually it's a small mule. Yeah, that's attached to your horse. Yeah,
and I have to lean into the corners. It's more
of a hay car then a side car. Back in

(01:04):
the Saddle, meaning we are back from Texas and back
in the recording booth for the first time in two weeks. Yeah,
it feels nice, dude, to be back in this smelly, little,
dimly lit room. Yeah, it's strangely at least it's not
like blood colored, you know. Yeah, man, that'd be weird.
Um so chuck, Yes, I guess we should get started. Huh,

(01:28):
you don't have an intro? Well, I mean I was
gonna use the intro. Is the intro? Go ahead? Then?
Have you have you ever heard of a place called Atlantis?
I have? Are you? Are you read like the Triangle
the vacation getaway? No, we're like Britney Spears stayed for
free for like a month when they opened and try
to generate buzz. I'm sure they were packing them in

(01:50):
after that. I think they have been. I don't know.
I can't. I can't discuss the financial a state of Atlantis,
the resort and the hamas. But what I can discuss
is Atlantis, the possibly fictitious place. Yeah, I'm gonna go
ahead and go on record as fictitious. Are you well?
After reading this? And by the way, this was awesome,

(02:11):
I had no idea about the secret surprise that's coming.
Which one, well, the the other place, the real place?
Oh gotcha? Okay? Which I meant to ask you before
how we pronounced that? But we'll just get to that
and I'll let you say it first. But yeah, I'm
gonna say it's fictitious and based on that. Okay, I

(02:32):
think I kind of go with that too, mainly because
one of the things about Plato is, uh, he was
the only person ever mentioned Atlantis. Plenty of people have
mentioned it after him, but it was based on what
he said, which kind of makes you think like, okay,
is this um, this is an allegory. Probably it's about wickedness. Yeah.

(02:56):
What was his book in to Maus? Yeah, that was
the book where he first mentioned it, and it was
written in three sixty b C. And Tomaus is one
of his dialogues, I believe. And Plato has a thing
where he likes to take real places, real people, real events,
and then just kinda use some literary license. He's a philosopher, Okay,

(03:20):
yeah he was. He was not a documentarian of real things, right, Um.
But along the way somewhere that idea got lost, right right.
So for example, Sodom and Gomorrah. I I would wager
that a lot of people think that Sodom and Gomorrah
something really happened, and then um it was it was

(03:45):
taken Eventually it was used as allegory that these people
were punished by God. Um, but really, you know, something
really bad happened to him, and somebody decided, Hey, this
is a great, great chance to use this as a
life lesson for everyone. So there's a really strong possibility
that Plato did the same thing because as he describes Atlantis, um,

(04:06):
they they had gotten kind of hubristic. I guess it
does mimic other things in the Bible, that's for sure
it does. And um, the great god Poseidon, who is
the god of the sea and of earthquakes, decided that
he was kind of tired of the people of Atlantis,
which was the seat of a cult that worshiped him. Right,

(04:29):
so he, using the techniques at hand, said he created
He's he I guess created an earthquake that generated a
tsunami that sunk Atlantis beneath the waves, lost forever. Yeah.
I think the quote from the book was sank into
the sea in a single day and night of misfortune. Yeah,
that's putting it lightly so. And he placed it too,

(04:49):
didn't he. Actually, Yeah, it's where off Spain, the Pillars
of Hercules, which is now called the Strait of Gibraltar,
And there's people looking in Spain now right, still think
legitimate bona fide Archaeologists they're fun. Yeah, so um, so Plato,
I guess part of the problem is he's he's saying, like, yes,

(05:11):
this this was at the Strait of Gibraltar in his
parlance at the time. He's saying, is that the Straight
of Gibraltar. The problem is is Atlantis was this magnificent
rings city, um, and it had like fantastic technology and
architecture and it was just an amazingly advanced place. But
he also says that this has happened nine thousand years ago, right, right,

(05:36):
so nine thousand years before him. So they're aliens. Well
that was that is thanks to a guy named Ignacious Donalding.
So this guy, so Plato writes about Atlantis, goes about
his business, right, and apparently nobody back then took it seriously.
And that's like modern man were the first people to say, oh,
maybe there wasn't Atlantis. Yeah, back to the day, everyone's like, nah,

(05:58):
it's just Plato going off again. It was this one guy,
Ignatious Donnelly can lay it all at his feet, jerk,
because in eighty two he published a book called Atlantis
The Antidiluvian World, and in it he's saying, Okay, the Azores,
the Azores Man. I wish i'd like that one up,
and I think that's right. Um, the islands in the

(06:19):
middle of the Atlantic, that's actually the highest peaks of
the highest mountaintops of Atlantis. And wait there's more. Uh,
the incredibly advanced civilizations in Egypt and high up in
the Andes of Peru, pre inca. Um, those were colonies
set forth by Atlantis that survived because they weren't there
for the sinking of Atlantis. So basically, um, we have

(06:42):
civilization to thank We have Atlantis to thank for civilization.
The problem is all of this is totally unfounded, but
it just kicked off the um occultization of Atlantis. Yeah.
That it's been placed everywhere from uh, South China, see
the Caribbean, the Pacific, the Indian Ocean, the Canary Islands, Antarctica,
supposedly Switzerland. Really Yeah, I didn't chase that one down,

(07:05):
but I saw somewhere that somebody said, Switzerland, let's go
ahead and say everywhere. Yeah, everywhere, Atlantis is everywhere. There's
um Edgar Casey, who is known as the Sleeping Prophet
of Virginia Beach, who's a psychic he Um, he said
that Atlantis stretched from the Gulf of Mexico to Spain,
and that the Bermuda Triangle. There are a lot of

(07:26):
you know, if there is mystery in the Bermuda Triangle,
it's due to Atlantis. Is energy crystals, I will say,
though he said it would rise off Beminy. And then
when they discovered the Beminy Road, everyone's like see there, yeah,
and then it's two bad. Cherry's not here because she's like,
I dove the Beminy Road. Yeah. Guest producer Maddie is
in the house. Hey, Matt, we didn't mention that. Um So,

(07:50):
once Donnelly comes along and kind of takes up the
mantle of searching for Atlantis and making it as far
out as possible, it just becomes more and more of
the dope mean of like fringe dwellers. Right, sure, but
that is not to say that there aren't legitimate archaeologists

(08:10):
searching for something like Atlantis. That that doesn't mean that
there isn't something that inspired Plato, right, and we probably
know what that is. Actually, that's where my money is.
And now you're gonna make me say it, even though
I asked you to say it. Hilaki Haliki Hiliki Haliki Haliki, Yeah, okay,

(08:31):
Haliki spelled he like, Yeah, Um, I saw some weird
pronunciation things that I didn't understand when I looked it up,
so I just figured i'd hear it preview. That was
Greek to you, it was indeed, um, So yeah, the

(09:04):
cats out of the bag. As far as I'm concerned,
it is Hiliki. Well. It was a super interesting story though. Um.
This was well documented by lots of people, not not
like a single source like Plato, single made up source exactly.
And it was a lost Greek city. It suffered a

(09:24):
fate much like Atlantis supposedly did. Yeah. So Hliki was
this um very powerful city in ancient Greece on the
Gulf Corinthum, very nice in that area. Yeah yeah, I
imagine have you been No, I want to go. Um.
It was powerful enough to have its own colonies, so

(09:45):
I mentioned if Atlanta had colonies in like Germany, this
is very much the case for Hliki. And it was
the seat of power for a twelve city league called
the Achaian League, which is kind of like the Confederacy
in the South, so that you like having a bar
in a different city that's like your home bar like
you know they have like it's usually football based. There's

(10:06):
like a New York Jets bar at Pittsburgh Steelers bar
in Atlanta. Maybe that the same thing. I thought it
was more like the capital of like a number of states. Okay,
but I don't think it's the same thing. But I
like that analogy. I'm just being coy. Um, so the
the key in league, now, I've just realized that I

(10:27):
missed something. Now that's a joke. Yeah, So the the
heliki is the city or the center of the key,
and league get controlled like the shipping around there. And
by the time Plato came about, it was hundreds of
years old, already very active port they have their own coinage.
Yeah yeah, and it looked very cool too. I looked

(10:50):
up the coins like dolphins and Poseidon and yeah, pitch
or not pitchforks, what do they call the tridents? Tridents?
And it was they had Poseidon on the coin because
this was like the seat of a cult of Poseidon. Yeah,
just like Atlantis exactly. And um it was had a

(11:11):
very prominent, well known statue of Poseidon, just like Atlantis. Right,
that's right. So the similarities are starting to mount top
they are, and uh, they really mount in a big
way in December of three seventy three BC, when the
townspeople started noticing, Wait a minute, all these small animals

(11:32):
are scurring for the hills and that's never a good sign.
Because we did talk about in another podcast how animals
can sense underground tremmors. I had to have been in
how earthquakes were. Yeah, I think that's what it was.
And sure enough, earthquake came in the middle of the
night on the fifth day, and that was followed by
an enormous wave and just like that overnight, just like Atlantis,

(11:56):
it was submerged to the bottom of the sea. Well
not the bottom but no, and not necessarily the sea either.
As we'll see, this is getting more mysterious. So, um,
so this really happened. This is pretty Uh, it was
a pretty well known event. Um. One of the there,
I guess we should say there were no survivors, like

(12:18):
people from the surrounding cities got together like um, a
search party, a rescue party, um that set out at
dawn just a few hours after this happened, and there
was well I think they got they walked as far
as they couldn't were like, oh yeah, well there's now
like a sea where there used to be this this
um city gone. There was no one there apparently. The

(12:41):
only thing visible were the tops of um the trees
in Poseidon's sacred grove. I would guess all of trees
yea uh. And there were ten ships and this will
come up later too from Sparta that were a docked
there in the port and they were gone as well,
just gone, and that will play an important part here
coming up soon. Yeah. So um, imagine like there's a city,

(13:04):
it's a very powerful, rich city, and you live out
in the boondocks and you just know something happened there
as an earthquake, so you go to check on the
city and then the city's gone and it's just silence,
and there's ten ships that aren't there anymore. Everything is
just gone. Creepy. What was even creepier though, is you
could look down into the city underwater and see it
all there still, yeah, including the statue of Posidon, which

(13:27):
apparently still stood erect and in place right and local
fishermen and ferryman um reported having their nets get caught
in poseidon statue all the time, which is kind of ironic. Yeah,
but Um, so you could see Hliki for hundreds of years,
which is one of the reasons why it's so well
documented because there were it was kind of like have

(13:49):
you heard of than of tourism, dark tourism or death tourism.
So um, it was kind of like an early version
of a dark tourism site, like come this massive terrea,
Yeah exactly, um, and you could go check it out,
and travelers and writers and scholars did, and they documented
what they saw, um pretty pretty um specifically too, Like

(14:15):
in Stadia, they said, well, here's the this is where
the city is now, this is where it was in
relation to you know this river, that river, so like,
the sources are pretty pretty abundant, and they're pretty specific.
Speaking of abundant and rivers and sources, look at you. Uh.
That area was was unique in that it had these

(14:38):
three rivers that met there, uh, bringing fresh water in.
So you got some good fresh water, you got some
good seawater with tons of good seafood, you got very
rich land for crops. We've got irrigation because we've got
the fresh water. The weather is gorgeous. So it's right
here on on the lovely seaside, and that's what made
it and on the ideal spot for people to say, hey,

(15:01):
maybe we should settle down here. Yeah, let's hang out
here for a while, get fat on shrimp. Unfortunately, it's
also a bad spot because there are two fault lines
that run parallel through the area, and uh, they haven't
been known to call some major disruption over the years,
like the earthquake that destroyed Hiliki and generated the tsunami.
So it's it's kind of like this whole place is

(15:23):
like made to produce a lost city, right yeah, because
there's other places around the world, um, where there's violent
tectonic activity and its coastal, so that means that it's
in danger of a tsunamill California not with a tsunami,
I don't think. Japan, yeah, um, the Malaysian tsunami two four. Um, Yeah,

(15:46):
there's a lot of places. But to produce a so
that's that will ruin a coastal city, right yes, But
for it to become lost, it has to be covered
up somehow, and Hiliki is in a really unique situation
for this because of those three rivers that form the
Hiliki Delta where Hiliki was situated, right, So you've got

(16:08):
the earthquake, You've got the tsunami. So you have a
ruined city now submerged. And then these three rivers bring
a lot of silt to the area, and so eventually
Hiliki was covered up over over the centuries. Yeah, you
put it in the article about how if you bought
a house or not bought a house, Let's say, built
a house along the shore in eight ninety, it would

(16:30):
be a thousand feet inland, which imagine is quite a
rub for people that build that lovely house right on
the water, because within a century or so it's gonna
be a couple of streets back and there's like tin
jerks in front of you that have built houses exactly.
And it's kind of like what's that game where you
like leap frog? Oh yeah, I think you can say

(16:53):
Monopoly where you build bigger houses than the other guy.
Oh yeah, that would have worked too. Um. So you've
got the tsunamis, you've got the river, You've got the silt,
the silt. You also have UM the delta itself. Because
of this violent activity, UM is moving up their finding

(17:14):
over time. It's it's rising. So you have a rising delta,
which is low. It's like right at sea level, but
it's it's getting bigger and silt is piling it up
and making dry ground even further jut out into the coast. Well,
what it made was a nice little surprise for archaeologists,

(17:34):
and I imagine archaeologists just went berserk with this place. Yeah,
they had no idea. They just thought Hliki itself was there.
They knew it was there, and that they suspected it
would be kind of like a Pompeii, but even more
um they considered it even more vital to archaeology or
the archaeological record than Pompeii. Even Well, what they found

(17:56):
though is you know, Josh, but we're gonna spring it
on you now, is six other distinct occupied horizons besides
six other ones are seven total, six total, six total,
five others besides Hilikia underneath one on top of the
other that had been settled and civilized and wiped out

(18:17):
and covered up and like just kind of captured in time.
That is crazy, Yeah, which, what what were they? So
there was one from the Byzantine period, which was pretty long.
I think it ran from two d to the fifteenth
century UM, and then beneath that there is a Roman
ruin which is from the second to the fourth a d.

(18:38):
And that one even features a Roman road which is
the road that travelers and writers used to come look
at Hiliki the ruins um and that one also chuck.
This just blows in my mind. It's so captured in
time that there's a human skeleton a top a like
a cattle skull that like it was knocked on top

(19:02):
of this beast and killed like by rock and rubble
and just kept there. So there's skeletons are intertwined now
and that nuts. So the Roman cities on top of Hiliki,
then beneath h leaky uh, they found even more stuff.
They found a settlement from the Bronze Age, and before

(19:23):
that they kept digging and found uh, prehistoric Neolithic period civilization,
possibly as old as twelve thousand years. I wonder if
there's something beneath that even I don't know. This makes
me think they should start digging in Los Angeles or
other like seaside retreats to see what you could find. Well,
there's a whole um. There's this whole idea, especially among

(19:47):
Atlantis hunters, that it's extremely intuitive because of rising sea
levels that anything that was established around the last Ice
Age or even at about the end of it, the
sea levels of ridges and like more than a hundred
feet since then. So any coastal cities now underwater. That's
like a big big thing that they hunt for an

(20:09):
hour that archaeologists are kind of starting to try to
get into is um looking for human habitation underwater. Like
there's this whole area off of Whales, I think Northern Wales,
Northern Ireland, maybe Um or Scotland anyways, called dogger Land
and it's like just the submerged area that used to

(20:30):
be above ground and they're they're they're finding like Neolithic
settlements there and that cool. Well, and you know, the
earth has changed so much over the course of its
existence that what's here didn't used to be here, and
what was there was something else, and so yeah, I
think it's there's no telling what's down there, but that
that idea and that the fact that you can find

(20:53):
Neolithic settlements under water supports, ironically the notion that there
could be something like a land that's lost somewhere like Hiliki. Right.

(21:26):
So yeah, so these guys they found this this um
area and once they found Hilliki. It all started to
they just it was like jack pot, jackpot, jackpot. But
finding Hiliki itself um proved a little more difficult than
they thought, especially considering all the documentation they had. Yeah,
they knew supposedly knew where it was, quote unquote like

(21:47):
it's not like they were searching for a needle in
a haystack. They were searching for like, uh, like a
pool que in a haystack, you know. Uh. So in
the late eighties a couple of cornell prest us or
started looking for it for real z s and uh.
They had a little bit of misinterpretation um for the

(22:09):
word for the translation for body of water. And lucky enough,
they had a Greek woman with them. Well she's one
of the Cornellia professors. Oh she was. Yeah. Well then
lucky that she was Greek, Well yeah, because she translates.
She was like, wait a minute, She's like, it may
not be in the gulf after all, It maybe inland.
And they were like, yeah, everybody had been thinking that
this was the gulf had swallowed him up, swallowed up

(22:30):
the city, which makes sense, right. It turns out it
was an inland lagoon that did so. I think it
was very much akin to the you know, the Noah's
Ark episode. We just did, um, what is it? The
Dead Sea? I think where they think that the Dead
Sea used to be freshwater right now it's salt water
because that's evidence of the flood happening. And probably what

(22:53):
they think is the Mediterranean overwhelmed the straight I can't
remember what's straight it was, you're searching the reaches. Yeah, anyway,
I think it was much the same way, like the
city used to be around a lagoon, and then the
lagoon got a lot bigger, thus swallowing the city. Right,
So they looked under land, and all of a sudden

(23:14):
they had to ditch their scuba gear for shovels, and
they found the first Roman city, the first ruins. We're like,
wait a minute, twelve feet just twelve feet below the land,
which doesn't seem like that far at all. No, it's not,
because the Roman rumors were like four or five ft. Yeah,
I would think that someone would have accidentally found it
before that, even you know, well that kicked it off.

(23:37):
There was a German archaeologists who was traveling in the
area and found a Hliky coin with Poseidon on. It
was like, Holy cow, this is significant. So I think
that's kind of how it started. Yeah, so they found
have found a lot of stuff since then, um buildings,
industrial buildings, kilns, looms, intersecting streets. Yeah, with buildings along

(24:01):
these streets like a real city. Yeah. Uh what else?
The coins, of course, UM, jugs, jugs with their original contents,
and those are from the Bronze Age. They found a
storehouse of like jugs of different sizes and types from
the Bronze Age. So we're talking like five thousand years old.

(24:22):
They don't have any idea about these civilizations, but this
was contemporary to like ancient Troy, which itself was considered
a legendary city until hiring Schleiman found it. Um. So
they just finding this stuff is amazingly awesome because and
there's more yea, there is supposedly, yes, So they think

(24:43):
that they found the outskirts of Haliki and that they
there's a lot more left, and that it's intact. Oh,
they're not actually at Hliki yet. No, they're in Hiliki,
but they're not in the city center, they don't you. Yeah,
so they're just out in the outskirts. That's what they think.
UM and when they were looking for Hiliki out in
the gulf. They found something cool too, didn't they. I

(25:07):
don't think I know this, you do know it. They
found a sea wall ancent sea Wolf of the City,
and they also found what they think are the ten
Spartan ship. Oh yeah, that's right. I thought you were
going to say the Statue of Poseidon. That would be like, well,
they'll find an event the motherload if they found that,
things still standing upright under the earth. So they keep following.

(25:27):
They started by following the Roman road, right, So they're
basically they're unearthing, like imagine this student there unearthing like
three lost cities at once. Isn't that insane? Do you know? What?
Like an archaeological treasure trove that is. So they're unearthing them.
And as long as they don't intersect, right, as long
as like the Roman town isn't built directly over the

(25:48):
Statue of Poseidon to where getting to Poseidon would undermine
the Roman town um, then they should be able to
get at all. And they're gonna be doing They will
excavate this for decades. So this has been ongoing since
the late eighties. Well, no, they really started uncovering stuff
in like two thousand, but they started in so awesome. Yeah,

(26:10):
very cool. So that's a Haliki. So of course, Chuck,
this doesn't mean that anybody has stopped searching for Atlantis.
Like the archaeologist in Spain. Yeah, he's looking inland though,
which comes from this theory. So maybe he's honest. One,
it's possible he's gonna start digging up in Barcelona and
people are gonna say, what are you doing? Yeah, drink

(26:32):
some wine. So, uh, you were saying that you think
that Plato was inspired by Hliki. I think there's substantial
evidence in what we've said. But also keep in mind
Laki happened in three seventy three. Plato wrote his book
in three sixty, thirteen years later, and he lived in

(26:53):
the area. This is a pretty well known catastrophe. I
think you're probably right, But with it, we would not
have had the awesome TV show Man from Atlantis had
it not been for Plato. No, I guess that's true.
Did you watch that? No, that was a little before
your time. And there's an awesome um HP Lovecraft short

(27:13):
story about a German U boat that ends up in Atlantis.
It's awesome. I tried to find YouTube stuff of Man
from Atlantis and then there's plenty out there. You know
he had the webbed hands when I was a kid up, Really,
you had webbed hands and feet. It's not Prince Nemore,
is it the submarter Prince of Nemore Nemo. No, Prince Nemore,

(27:35):
He's a Marvel comic guy. No, no, no, it was Man.
It was a schlocky It ran for like one year.
Was like, yeah he was he had supero he had
superhuman strength and uh could breathe underwater, had gills, and
he had webbed feet in hands and um, I think
like some government agency snapped him up to do like

(27:57):
investigative undersea work for them. Oh, I know you're talking
about Welcome Back Cotter. It was a dude from from Dallas.
Uh Patrick? What's his face? Patrick Ewing? Patrick Guffy? You're
thinking jr. You Patricking is the basketball player, right, Patrick Duffy? Yah? Yeah,
h this was good stuff. I've never heard of that show. Yeah,

(28:19):
it was only around for one year. I think. Boy,
I was into it when I was like seven. Good stuff.
You had webbed hands. Yeah, it got me into Plato.
You hadn't been eating it for years. Funny guy. All right,
so that's it. You got anything else? I got nothing.
Thank you for doing this one with me. It was awesome.
Thank you for opening my eyes to coolness. Anytime. If

(28:41):
you want to know more about Juliki, you should search
for was there a real Atlantis? By typing that into
the search bar house to works dot com and I
said that, which means it's time for a listener. Man.
That's right, Josh. Remember when we did a little TV
pilot recently. Um, we tried to get these book INDs

(29:04):
onto the show. They arrived a little late. We weren't
able to. But I want to tell everyone about this
project because that sounds very cryptic. Uh, this from my Hey, guys,
have been a big fan for a couple of years, UM,
and I especially like that some of your causes you
have taken on and considered and done podcast about them,
Kiva and the Cooperative for Education in particular. So our

(29:27):
Guatemala podcast gave him an idea for a Facebook fundraising
idea to raise awareness for co op our buddies Cooperative
for Education Cincinnati to do the awesome textbook programs and
UH Computer Center Labs in Guatemala, and he proposed to
them and they said, hey, y'all, let's do this. So

(29:48):
his idea was to create quote unquote celebrity book INDs
with just this basic idea. Take an ordinary set of
book INDs, although they are pretty fancy looking, right, I
gotta admit, uh in, make them super famous uh pop
culture icons through social media, and then sell them for
a million bucks and give it all to co ed.

(30:08):
So that's the plan. It's a good plan. I don't
know if we added anything to that. We added at
least sevent Okay, good um, he says. I know it
sounds crazy, but crazy is usually what it takes to
get people to notice things. The rational thinking behind this
is that to get famous, all you need to have
are a ton of people believing that you're famous. You know, yeah,

(30:30):
I mean, what else is celebrity exactly. Uh. So they're
trying to drum up celebrity for these book ends to
raise awareness. They have sent them around the world to
meet people and to be on TV shows and in movies. Uh.
They're documenting this on Facebook, the travels of these book ends, uh,
in Twitter and blogs for people to follow. And our
big audacious goal is to get as many Facebook fans

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as Kim Kardashian. She has nine million fans. Can you
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the National. I didn't know how to pronounce that, but
I do love the National, and I believe I saw
Jeff Bridges holding these things, did you really Yeah? And

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then before us Yeah, So we actually got a little
de Vito Bridges stank on our hands unless they clean
these things. And they sent it to us originally to
get it in our cubicles on the TV pilot, but
they arrived a little late and we weren't able to.
So we just did some pictures and maybe on down
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