February 8, 2025 • 44 mins
Today's episode of Sunday Service by Pray.com features Lisa Kai.
Pastor Lisa Kai (@LisaKaiTv) shares a deep and heartfelt message on what it looks like to seek the Lord and to trust in Him. Engage in this word as you get to not only hear what it looks like to seek HIM but to also be able to identify other women in the bible who took the leap of faith and trusting in God's timing and God's plan even in the midst of uncertainty and the unknown!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let us pray. But Thou, O Lord, are a god
full of compassion and gracious, long suffering, and plenteous in
mercy in truth it' Psalm eighty six fifteen. Dear God,
thank you for your patience and mercies. Guide me with
your word as I go about my day. Help me
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to be as forgiving as you during times of trials
and tribulations. Help me to understand that even though my
love for you is strong, it does not exempt me
from suffering. Please remind me to look to you and
seek you when I encounter difficult times. May your love
be the guiding light and source of strength for me always. Amen.
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Speaker 2 (01:07):
Welcome to the Lisa Kai Radio broadcast here on pray
dot com. Thank you for joining us today for an
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Lisa Kai at Lisakai dot tv or the Lisa Kai
channel here on pray dot com. Now let's jump into
today's message.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So I decided to title this message I sought the Lord.
I sought the Lord because I truly believe that every
one of us know what it means when you say
I sought the Lord, because you think about just everything
that's been happening, you know, right now, right Maui, to Israel,
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to this fire that is happening right in the backyard,
and there's this this like, oh Lord, is there anything else?
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You know?
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And it's not the Lord's fault, but it's like, is
there anything else?
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What else is going to come down the road? What
else you know? And and it's hard to not think,
like God, like is this ever gonna end? It's almost
like even.
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Our trials, our tribulations, the things that we've been praying
for for for a long time, or whether it's for
it just surface and a lot of times it comes
down to this thing of do you trust the Lord?
Every one of us have been in that place that
when we're so overwhelmed or there's no answers, or just
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like how Lord, or how am I going to get
through this? How do I walk through this? Or do
I really want to walk through this? Do I even
want to go through it? The process which you know,
everyone hates it right go through the process, but there
is always to the other side, There always an end
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to something that will begin something new, and.
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We just need to get there.
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And I think sometimes we don't see things. We don't
know where we're going, we don't know where it's going.
But then when you seek the Lord, you know that
it's a matter of trusting him to get you there.
And sometimes I think we all want to just get
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there right away, like can can it just happen today?
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Can it just happen tomorrow? Or And there's always.
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That question mark right at the end, like I don't
even have a clue to how this is going to
turn out. I have no clue to the healing, Like
how long is it going to take when I'm gonna
get there?
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Because even for this year.
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Like I was telling my mother in law Estra Kai,
so she's in town till she wants to be here,
told Rise literally, And I kind of was selling her
last weekend. I said, hey, take her out to lunch,
you pay for her lunch. She's retired, you know what
I mean. So, like I was just explaining to her,
I said, of all the years, let's say, you know
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of my life or as a Christian, I said, this
probably has been the toughest year.
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And I think you guys can relate, right.
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You guys can say, well, in two thousand or nineteen, oh,
that was a tough year, or some of us can say, oh,
this was the toughest year in my whole entire life.
And all I kind of looked at it as I've
been tested. I've been tested, and I hate test. I
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hate taking tests. I hate being tested. And I just
know that this year was a big year of really
trusting the Lord. Everything I've preached, everything I've read in
the Bible, every promises, every thing that I.
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Know of God. I had to hold on to it.
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Because when you're when life is really going well, your
season is amazing, things are going so good, it's really
easy to trust the Lord because there's nothing really to
seek after. Right, But when you're seeking, when you say
I sought the Lord, because in Psalm thirty four or four,
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this is David.
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David says, I sought the Lord, and he answered me.
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He delivered me from all of my fears, all of
my fears. Because right, we all know what happened to David. Right,
he was being chased, he was being hunted down. And
when I just looking at that one passage, he sought
the Lord, and he answered and he delivered, He answered,
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and he delivered. And when you think about everything that
you've gone through or might go through one day, or
maybe you're in the midst of it right, it's almost
like when will it happened? When will you answer God?
When will you deliver me?
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And when you're in that place, and if you remember
where it was when you were in that place, or
if you are in it right now, all you can
do is trust. Trust when you don't even see it.
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Proverbs eight seventeen and says, I love those who love
me and those who see me diligently, because they will
find me. And I guess when you think about times
of testing, it's actually a really sweet time if you
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can see it like that, because it really causes you
to seek the Lord. It causes you to like desperately diligently.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Seeking after just a word or.
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A vision or just something that you can hold on to,
like it's like your last hope, and you're like.
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God, just give me something.
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And you know, when you think about it, we all
are embarking on a journey of faith. We're all on
this just journey of faith, okay, some of us. All
our journey is different. You can't really say yours is
like this of yours is like that when every one
of us have a different journey. But our faith will
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be tested and our trust of God will be tested
as well, because in life everything is not going to
be always great.
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We would love to have.
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No like like I can just say I've had no
surgery on this body, like literally nothing, Like I can't
tell somebody what it felt like to have gone through
a surgery or you know, I can't.
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I can't say anything.
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Or I've never gone through this or I've never gone
through that, so I can't really see what you're going through.
But I know it's painful, and I know it's really
a time of like, oh, I don't know, I don't know,
I don't know, and I see it sometimes even on
your faces and I and all I can say to you.
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Is don't give up, don't give up. Smile a frowning,
stop being looking stop looking down, just keep looking up.
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Because you gotta get through it. Because if you keep
looking down, you're gonna get like whiplash. You're gonna get
like you know, just muscles that's gonna tense up, and
you know, looking like this, you know when you think
about it, when you when we are all embarking on
a journey of faith, we have to trust God.
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And when we trust.
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Our trust actually increases because of what you went through,
what you're going through, your trust actually increases.
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Faith because faith.
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Is the foundation of our trust in the Lord. You're
gonna grow in your relationship with the Lord through your
times of testing and through your journey of faith, and
your faith is your foundation. But if your faith is
not your foundation, and I don't know how you're going
to handle it, I don't know how you're gonna.
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Get through it.
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Faith also empowers us to place our trust in the Lord.
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That's what faith does.
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It empowers you to go through your daily struggles, through
your daily pain, or through your daily confusion. And trusting
is also an act of faith. The more you trust,
the bigger your faith gets. So how do you and
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I keep trusting the Lord through this journey that God
has each of us on?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Okay?
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Because like I said, this was probably my toughest year
that I can think of, Okay, that I've had to
learn to trust God because fear will come in and
replace trust. Fear always does that, like your mind can
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and just wander and go there. And then your trust
starts going down and your fear starts going up. And
that's when you start panicking, and then you start making
bad decisions, and then you start deviating, and you start
getting distracted, and you start trying to control your situation,
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and you start controlling the circumstances and your outcome.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But then when you replace it with trust.
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This gets smaller your tendency to do things on your own,
and you know, trying to take control, trying to take control.
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Of your situation.
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So how do you and I keep trusting the Lord?
The first thing is belief in the unseen. Belief in
the unseen. It means trusting the Lord when you just
can see it, trusting the Lord when you can see it.
Hebrews eleven one says, Now, faith is the substance of
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things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
It sucks like you can't see it, You can't see
the end goal.
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Like my daughter she's gonna she's you know, she's she's
going to college, but I don't know what college she's
gonna go to and I need to know right now.
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I need to plan, I need to free care. But
I don't know.
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I have to wait on the Lord, and I have
to trust the Lord. And a person that a woman
in the Bible named Hannah. Okay, I don't know if
you guys know about Hannah. Hannah had to trust the
Lord with things that she could not see see. Hannah
was deeply distressed after years of infertility, and she prayed
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to the Lord and she wept bitterly, and her husband Elka,
and I had another wife at that time. You could
have two wives at that time, that's not right. And
the other wife was named Kennana.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I don't know. I don't know if I pronounced it right.
I'll just call her Penny, who kept popping babies left
and right, okay. And she taunted Hannah. That made her
so mad and sad.
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I hope you guys don't do that to others. And
so she was praying so hard for a son that
an onlooker actually thought she was drunk because she.
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Was seeking the Lord, seeking the Lord.
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Because so when you're seeking the Lord, sometimes you look
like you aren't drunk because you're like, you know, like,
oh God.
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You know.
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You're right when you're seeking the Lord. It's not just
you know, someone's just like you know, do you know
you know, like.
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Hey, hey, you know, so I can just imagine Hannah's
just like having this conversation and just telling the Lord.
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But she looked like she was drunk.
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And then in doom time, Hannah actually conceived and bore
a son, and she named him Samuel, and she says,
I have asked him of the Lord.
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I have asked him of the Lord.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know, Hannah asked for what she wanted the most,
which was a son, and she actually envisioned it. So
sometimes when you are asking for something and you're trusting
the Lord because and you can't even see it, you
have to envision it. Envision what it is that you're
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asking for. What is it what you're asking for? Are
you asking for a child?
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Envision him? Envision her? Are you asking for a husband?
Envision him?
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Okay, don't look at the soap opera, don't look at
these Netflix, that's not him.
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Envision him. He's right here in the church. I promise
you he is.
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But you have to.
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Envision it, because Hannah envisioned it, and she had to
trust the Lord. And then what Hannah also did was okay,
she said to the Lord, if you give it to
if you give me a son, I'll give him back
to you.
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And I think a lot of us we have to
know that when God blesses you and God.
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Gives it to you at his timing, remember he's the
one who gave it to you.
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And what Hannah had to do was she i thing.
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You know, when Hannah birthed Samuel, she weaned him and
everything she gave him to the Lord.
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She did what she promised.
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And I think a lot of times when we ask
for something which we don't see, and then once we
get it.
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We control it.
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We withhold it from the world, we withhold it from people.
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It's because it's like I prayed so hard for this.
I'm not letting this go. And God is saying, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait.
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You sought me, you seek me, you asked for it,
and now you don't want to give it back to me,
when at the when, at the beginning, it was actually mine.
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I gave you.
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I gave you that husband that you asked for, and
now you don't want to give me your marriage.
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Right you asked for that.
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Son, right, you asked for that daughter, and now you
just want to kick him or her out of the house.
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And God is say, what, you prayed for him, you
prayed for her, you sought me. Just give him back
to me, Give him back to me, Give me that marriage,
give me that business, give me that relationship, give me
your your finances, give it to me. Okay. So that's the.
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First thing is that we, you know, in our journey,
how do we keep trusting as we believe in this
unseen trusting the Lord and you have to envision it
and when God.
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Gives it to you, give it back to him. Give
back what is owed to him.
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He's blessed your business, tithe, your business, tied off, your
you know your blessings, don't withhold it, don't just keep
it for yourself. The second thing is how do you
and I keep trusting the Lord through this journey?
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Is confident of his promises.
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You know, when when I was going through just you know,
life stuff, you know, or just what's happening in this world,
you know, there's so many things that are happening.
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And you can't you just you just kind of start
becoming no a little.
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But when you're in it, you know, you're going through challenges,
You're going through something that you can't see. There's no
end to it yet, and you're just waiting for.
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God to act.
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You know, you have to rely on the confidence of
his promises. It's trusting God often involves placing your confidence
in all his promises. And what are some of the
promises that God has? And I think I want to
give you scriptures for this because you need to hold
on to scripture. You need to hold on to His word,
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because you need to recite these promises.
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Over and over and over and.
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Over, because we have to be reminded of what God
says in the Word. Right, So like in Jeremiah twenty
ninety eleven, you hear this all the time. It says
for I know the plans I have for you, says
the Lord. There are plans for good and not for disaster,
to give you a future.
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And a hope.
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So when you're so downcast, when you're so discouraged, when
you think life sucks, when you think that you have
no hope, you think you don't have no future, you
think you're done, God is saying no, I'm giving you
a future and I'm giving you a hope, and you
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have to believe it.
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This is what God says.
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Isaiah forty one ten says, don't be afraid, for I
am with you. Don't be discouraged, For I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you. I will hold
you up with my victorious right hand.
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He says. Don't be afraid.
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Stop, don't be fearful, don't go there, Get out of
that fear zone, because he says, I'm with you. Even
if you're afraid, even if you're in that fear he's saying,
I'm with you still, I'm with you. Don't be discouraged.
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He'll strengthen you, He'll hold you up. Philippians for nineteen.
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It says, in the same God who takes care of
me will supply.
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All your needs from His glorious riches, which has been
given to us in Christ Jesus. Sometimes you think financially,
like God, I don't know how I'm gonna pay my
next month. God, I don't know how I'm gonna afford this.
I don't know if I'm gonna able to, you know,
pay my taxes. I don't know if I'm gonna about
to do this or that's that.
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If God provided before, why wouldn't he provide now?
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Right?
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God is gonna supply all.
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My needs because I sought the Lord, and I trust
the Lord. Isaiah forty three two says, when you go
deep waters, I will be with you. When you go
through rivers of difficulty.
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You will not drown. You won't drown. Okay, I think
some of you need to hear this one. You're not
gonna drown.
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When you walk through the fire of oppression, you will
not be burned up. The flames will not consume you.
Whatever is happening in your life, it's not going to
consume you.
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It won't destroy you.
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It's not the end and inn Isaiah forty thirty one.
I love this passage. It says, but those who trust
in the Lord will find new strength they were sore,
high on wings like egos, they will run and not
grow weary, and they will walk and not faint. Trusting
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the Lord often often involves placing your full confidence on
his promises. So as you're going through, like for me,
as I was going through, as I am going through, Okay,
even at this moment.
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There's some things that are going through that we're going through.
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It's like it can look chaotic out here, okay.
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Like I think the famous phrase the last couple of
days was not what what what?
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Right?
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Like I thought we were done. I thought we were
like gonna get We're gonna we're getting through it. And
then when you get another text, you're like, great, it's.
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Not done yet.
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And and I even prayed, I said, Lord, thank you
for letting us get through the last two days. The
first day was like, oh my gosh, we are like
it seemed like a like a like it's gonna be
so long on this journey.
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It feels like I was gonna go whini or something.
You know what I'm saying.
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It takes a long time from Kailoa to Waine, okay,
and you know, and you just seem so you wake up,
Like if you're hopeful for the day, you pray for
the day, and then at twelve o'clock you get a
text You're like, we're.
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Still at it. Can it stop? When will it stop?
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You know?
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And I just kind of hold onto the promises of
God that He's gonna get us through it and we
won't like we It won't consume us, it won't consume us.
And I'm not gonna be afraid of what could be,
because sometimes I think we think too much of what
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could be versus what it will be.
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Right, we have to think what it will be like
like my marriage.
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Okay, it doesn't look good right now, but it will be.
We're gonna be holding hands, walking the beaches, praying and
just speaking of our future.
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That's what I envision. And my son and my daughter.
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I see that she is gonna be married with two
kids and raising.
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What or am I talking about, beccap.
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Maybe I've been asking for twins.
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So it's really it's speaking what you're gonna see. It's
having to go to.
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Set your mind on the things of God and not
set your mind on what is present, because what is
present it doesn't make sense. The third thing is how
do I keep trusting the Lord to this journey, right,
believe in the unseen, confident of his promises. And the
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third thing is surrender and reliance. Surrender and reliance. Okay,
you're seeking the Lord, right, I sought the Lord and
now it's it's really it's trusting God is surrendering control
and relying on his wisdom and guidance. Full surrender, full right.
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You think about like I think about Mother Mary of Jesus. Okay,
she was fourteen years old when God, when the angel
showed up and told her you're gonna be pregnant with
the Messiah. Okay, fourteen years old. Can you imagine the angels,
you know, telling you you're gonna have God in you
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and you haven't had sex. It's like, okay, how would
that ever happen? But she relied on God's guidance and
she trusted his will, his will for her life.
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You know, Mary could.
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Have actually refused Gabriel's request, the angel Gabriel requests, but
instead she agreed and opened herself up to love, self
sacrifice and into this life transforming.
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Experience for her.
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She had to surrender anything of her doubts. She had
to rely on his wisdom, like you know, because I
love how Mary said in Luke one point thirty. She says, here,
I am the servant of the Lord. Let it be
with me according to your word. I think you and
I need to memorize this scripture. Whenever the Lord is
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asking of you of something, the first thing that comes
out of your mouth should be here, I am the
servant of the Lord. Let it be with me according
to your word. Because that's full trust, trusting that this
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is God's will.
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And maybe that wasn't God's will, because.
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Sometimes when I just I just know that sometimes when
there's so much struggle okay here, sometimes you have to
wonder was it God's will or was it your will?
Sometimes I'm not saying everything, but that's how I sense
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if it's God's will or not. Sometimes, like there's so
much wrestling here, there's so much things that are just
just not just.
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Doesn't feel peaceful.
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There's you know, there's the heart is just not there
and you keep praying and praying and you're asking God
to give you a peace about it, peace about it,
and it just wasn't happening. And sometimes we can force
things to happen and make it God's will and in
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the long run, okay, it's not like your life is
going to be like that, that's it. No, then God
has more of a mess to fix. God always makes adjustments.
His will will always be done in your life, and
he'll make adjustments along your journey. But it's really submitting
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and surrendering and relying on God.
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And then the fourth.
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Thing is how do you and I keep trusting the
Lord through this journey? Is having patience and perseverance. Pp
patience and perseverance. Trusting the Lord requires faith to be patient,
to persevere, especially when faith it challenges and unanswered prayers.
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I call this God's timing.
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A lot of us don't are patient enough for God's timing.
You know you think about Queen Esther. Queen Esther, you
know you think about when this is her famous passage
right Esther four fourteen. It says, for if you remain
completely silent at this time, relief and deliverance will arise
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for their Jews from another place, But you and your
father's house will perish. Yet who knows whether you have
come to the kingdom for such a time as this,
for such a time as this.
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It took patience.
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And perseverance for Esther to approach the king to save
her people, and it had to be the perfect time
tim She fasted, she had her people pray and fast
because she couldn't just get it done. She couldn't just
take control. She couldn't just march into her king, the
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king's presence, because at that time you had to be
invited into his presence. So she knew this was a
very crucial moment that she could either make it happen,
or she could make it not happen, or she could
be killed. But for such a time as this, it
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was patience and perseverance that allowed the people.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
To be saved.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And what we can learn from Esther is that timing
and patience is really important when you're in time of
season where you're learning how to trust God. God's timing
is always on time. God's timing is always on time.
You know, I think about right, A lot of us
have had infertility issues, right, some of us, not all
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of us.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Some of you are like what do you call that?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You keep popping them out, like Penana Penny. But people
like us, like Hannahs, you know, took us a while.
But timing is perfect because all my girls are nine
years apart, which is perfect because I don't know how
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some of you do it. I don't know how Darwyn
and Maria do it. You know, three boys like one
after the other. I'll put them all together and take
them all to the toilet one time together, and eat
one time together, and just.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
But think about it.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Timing and patience is important, and sometimes, you know, what
we can learn from Esther is that sometimes we must
take personal risk to make a difference. Sometimes you are
the difference maker and you're waiting for someone else to
step in, but it's actually you. You know how everyone says, oh,
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we need this, we need that, and they don't do nothing.
They expect somebody else to do it. And you're like, somebody.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Told God told you. God didn't tell her, or God
didn't tell us. I not.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I don't hate, but you know, like people always come like, oh, pastor,
we need this, we need that, we need to do this,
we need to get involved with this and that and this,
and I sudden you.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Go do them.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I said, I get plenty of stuff a dode what
you're doing. It's like I don't even want more thing
on my plate. Maybe your a plate needs some more
stuff on. You know what I'm saying, And someone you
do you get plenty of room on your plate.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I like fill your plate? Would you let me do that?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'm good at that, And that the lessons we can
learn from Esther is that our lives are linked to
a larger community for which we must care for.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
We are we are the changers.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
We are God changers. We are the people that God
is wanting to use in our communities because without you,
who will it be.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Esther could have totally ignored it.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
She could have just walked away and just sat there
and just been a just be a queen and get
all her facials every single day.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
But she knew her people.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Were at stake, just like right now, right in Israel,
there's a lot of people now, the Jews.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
And what's those. What you're going to.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
See more and more and more and more is division.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
We're already experiencing it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
We are all experiencing it, even in our own home.
You can't even talk about politics, you can't even talk
about vaccinations, you can't even talk about Israel now. You
can't talk about stuff because everybody has an opinion. Everybody
has their own personal opinions, and the enemy loves it.
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He's enjoying watching people get divided.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
She fasted, she prayed, and we.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
All are praying for unity, for peace, And how do
we become one is love is loving one another. Yeah,
we can have our views, we can have our opinions.
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That doesn't that doesn't determine our relationship.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And we have to fight for that.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
We have to fight for the relationship more than our opinions.
And that's gonna be hard, because you're gonna have to
trust God, surrendering your what you think is right, what
you know is right, and trusting God that he will
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deliver his people, Trusting God that he will turn it around,
Trusting God that his will shall be done here on
earth as it is in heaven. But every one of
us have to come to a place of fully trusting Him.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
And I think the reason why this.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Word is so crucial that I felt, you know, I
sought the Lord. I think this is a period in time,
for such a time as this, that you and I
are called to seek the Lord more than ever. You're
gonna have to trust the Lord more than ever ever.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Like for me, this was the year for me. I
gotta trust God.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I can't freak out every time something happens. I cannot
I can't freak out already. I think I freaked out
already in the last couple of years. I think I'm
my freak muscle. It's the same one, you know, say
say muscle. It's time my prayer life change. It's time
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that my that I I drank more and I get
more drunk, I start declaring things over this earth, that
I start shouting. I think shouting helps. It changes you first,
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It changes your attitude. You know, like you can be angry, Okay,
you can be angry over the injustice. Okay, but use
that anger and in your prayer, not school God. Okay,
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but say it to the devil.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
In the name of Jesus.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
No, that's not happening here on this earth. No, that's
not happening in my community. That's not happening in my relationship. No, no, no, no,
that's not happening in my school. I'm not going to
sit there and let them educate my kids on things
that they should not be learning. No, we're not going
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to be the one to divide. The Word already divides people.
Let the Word of God be the thing that brings
people together. Because you can't deliver God's word to people
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who don't know God. I think that's one thing I've
learned over my life as a Christian. I can't make
someone understand what I believe if they don't even have
the Holy Spirit in them. You can fight for all
that you want, but this person has no clue because
their Holy Spirit doesn't live in them, because they have
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not received Jesus. Our job is to deliver Jesus to them.
Our job is not to raise the what is right
and what is wrong. Our job is to bring them
to a relationship with Jesus. Then they will have the
Holy Spirit. Then they will know the word of God
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then and a lot of it is through you. And
I truly believe that there is an urgency, like I'll
look at everything that I've been going through this year,
like I'm that type of person that I kind of
have to step back and go, okay, wait, wait, what
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is really happening?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
And Mike and I truly believe it's spiritual attacks.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
It's like spiritual attacks are higher, Like it's like it's
coming up quicker. It's more evident in our lives as well.
We haven't honestly called Pam Zunik like she's our She
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and Nick are like they we go, We tell them everything,
and we're always like texting, Pam, you gotta pray for this,
pray for that. Pam's got a lot of text this
past week.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Who do you go to.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
When you feel like there's a spiritual attack happening? Like
it's can you recognize that this is an attack? Because
sometimes it's really not that person, it's really maybe not
that it's not that person that's making it. There's a
spiritual part about a situation. And so when you recognize
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that as a spiritual attack, you know how to pray
in the spirit. You know how to pray for whatever
it is that God is gonna God's gonna show you.
And you know, I, you know, it's always a fun
night to do this kind of stuff, and it's always
fun to do a fun message where I'm jumping around
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and making stupid you know comments that I.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Sometimes do, but I truly believe.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Trusting the Lord. You know this song, you know, I
told them this is the theme song for tonight. I said,
I sought the Lord and he answered, and he delivered
me from all my fears. I sought the Lord and
he answered, and he delivered all of my fears.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It's when we seek the Lord.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I mean's we come to a place, you know, like
when I read you that post. I've watched my friend
go through this for the last couple of years, and
now she's going to be walking through the last part.
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I don't see it as like, oh my gosh, this
is the worst part. I see it as the last part,
the last part of the journey, and she needs to
finish it.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Well, this is the last.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It's like, come on, stick it out. This is the
hardest part. But you gotta get through it. You have
to walk, hold your head up high, and just go God.
I'm a servant of the Lord. I'm gonna surrender my
my emotions right now. I am gonna walk through this
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valley knowing that for such a time as this, because
I trust you God.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I trust you God.
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So I decided to title this message I sought the Lord.
I sought the Lord because I truly believe that every
one of us know what it means when you say
I sought the Lord, because you think about just everything
that's been happening, you know, right now, right Maui, to Israel,
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to this fire that is happening right in the backyard,
and there's this this like, oh Lord, is there anything else?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
You know?
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And it's not the Lord's fault, but it's like, is
there anything else?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
What else is going to come down the road? What
else you know? And and it's hard to not think,
like God, like is this ever gonna end? It's almost
like even.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Our trials, our tribulations, the things that we've been praying
for for for a long time, or whether it's for
it just surface and a lot of times it comes
down to this thing of do you trust the Lord?
Every one of us have been in that place that
when we're so overwhelmed or there's no answers, or just
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like how Lord, or how am I going to get
through this? How do I walk through this? Or do
I really want to walk through this? Do I even
want to go through it? The process which you know,
everyone hates it right go through the process, but there
is always to the other side, There always an end
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to something that will begin something new, and.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
We just need to get there.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And I think sometimes we don't see things. We don't
know where we're going, we don't know where it's going.
But then when you seek the Lord, you know that
it's a matter of trusting him to get you there.
And sometimes I think we all want to just get
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there right away, like can can it just happen today?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Can it just happen tomorrow? Or And there's always.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That question mark right at the end, like I don't
even have a clue to how this is going to
turn out. I have no clue to the healing, Like
how long is it going to take when I'm gonna
get there?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Because even for this year.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Like I was telling my mother in law Estra Kai,
so she's in town till she wants to be here,
told Rise literally, And I kind of was selling her
last weekend. I said, hey, take her out to lunch,
you pay for her lunch. She's retired, you know what
I mean. So, like I was just explaining to her,
I said, of all the years, let's say, you know
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of my life or as a Christian, I said, this
probably has been the toughest year.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And I think you guys can relate, right.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You guys can say, well, in two thousand or nineteen, oh,
that was a tough year, or some of us can say, oh,
this was the toughest year in my whole entire life.
And all I kind of looked at it as I've
been tested. I've been tested, and I hate test. I
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hate taking tests. I hate being tested. And I just
know that this year was a big year of really
trusting the Lord. Everything I've preached, everything I've read in
the Bible, every promises, every thing that I.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Know of God. I had to hold on to it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Because when you're when life is really going well, your
season is amazing, things are going so good, it's really
easy to trust the Lord because there's nothing really to
seek after. Right, But when you're seeking, when you say
I sought the Lord, because in Psalm thirty four or four,
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this is David.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
David says, I sought the Lord, and he answered me.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He delivered me from all of my fears, all of
my fears. Because right, we all know what happened to David. Right,
he was being chased, he was being hunted down. And
when I just looking at that one passage, he sought
the Lord, and he answered and he delivered, He answered,
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and he delivered. And when you think about everything that
you've gone through or might go through one day, or
maybe you're in the midst of it right, it's almost
like when will it happened? When will you answer God?
When will you deliver me?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
And when you're in that place, and if you remember
where it was when you were in that place, or
if you are in it right now, all you can
do is trust. Trust when you don't even see it.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Proverbs eight seventeen and says, I love those who love
me and those who see me diligently, because they will
find me. And I guess when you think about times
of testing, it's actually a really sweet time if you
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can see it like that, because it really causes you
to seek the Lord. It causes you to like desperately diligently.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Seeking after just a word or.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
A vision or just something that you can hold on to,
like it's like your last hope, and you're like.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
God, just give me something.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And you know, when you think about it, we all
are embarking on a journey of faith. We're all on
this just journey of faith, okay, some of us. All
our journey is different. You can't really say yours is
like this of yours is like that when every one
of us have a different journey. But our faith will
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be tested and our trust of God will be tested
as well, because in life everything is not going to
be always great.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
We would love to have.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
No like like I can just say I've had no
surgery on this body, like literally nothing, Like I can't
tell somebody what it felt like to have gone through
a surgery or you know, I can't.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I can't say anything.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Or I've never gone through this or I've never gone
through that, so I can't really see what you're going through.
But I know it's painful, and I know it's really
a time of like, oh, I don't know, I don't know,
I don't know, and I see it sometimes even on
your faces and I and all I can say to you.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Is don't give up, don't give up. Smile a frowning,
stop being looking stop looking down, just keep looking up.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Because you gotta get through it. Because if you keep
looking down, you're gonna get like whiplash. You're gonna get
like you know, just muscles that's gonna tense up, and
you know, looking like this, you know when you think
about it, when you when we are all embarking on
a journey of faith, we have to trust God.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And when we trust.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Our trust actually increases because of what you went through,
what you're going through, your trust actually increases.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Faith because faith.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Is the foundation of our trust in the Lord. You're
gonna grow in your relationship with the Lord through your
times of testing and through your journey of faith, and
your faith is your foundation. But if your faith is
not your foundation, and I don't know how you're going
to handle it, I don't know how you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Get through it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Faith also empowers us to place our trust in the Lord.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
That's what faith does.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It empowers you to go through your daily struggles, through
your daily pain, or through your daily confusion. And trusting
is also an act of faith. The more you trust,
the bigger your faith gets. So how do you and
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I keep trusting the Lord through this journey that God
has each of us on?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Okay?
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Because like I said, this was probably my toughest year
that I can think of, Okay, that I've had to
learn to trust God because fear will come in and
replace trust. Fear always does that, like your mind can
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and just wander and go there. And then your trust
starts going down and your fear starts going up. And
that's when you start panicking, and then you start making
bad decisions, and then you start deviating, and you start
getting distracted, and you start trying to control your situation,
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and you start controlling the circumstances and your outcome.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But then when you replace it with trust.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
This gets smaller your tendency to do things on your own,
and you know, trying to take control, trying to take control.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Of your situation.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So how do you and I keep trusting the Lord?
The first thing is belief in the unseen. Belief in
the unseen. It means trusting the Lord when you just
can see it, trusting the Lord when you can see it.
Hebrews eleven one says, Now, faith is the substance of
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things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
It sucks like you can't see it, You can't see
the end goal.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Like my daughter she's gonna she's you know, she's she's
going to college, but I don't know what college she's
gonna go to and I need to know right now.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I need to plan, I need to free care. But
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I have to wait on the Lord, and I have
to trust the Lord. And a person that a woman
in the Bible named Hannah. Okay, I don't know if
you guys know about Hannah. Hannah had to trust the
Lord with things that she could not see see. Hannah
was deeply distressed after years of infertility, and she prayed
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to the Lord and she wept bitterly, and her husband Elka,
and I had another wife at that time. You could
have two wives at that time, that's not right. And
the other wife was named Kennana.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I don't know. I don't know if I pronounced it right.
I'll just call her Penny, who kept popping babies left
and right, okay. And she taunted Hannah. That made her
so mad and sad.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I hope you guys don't do that to others. And
so she was praying so hard for a son that
an onlooker actually thought she was drunk because she.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Was seeking the Lord, seeking the Lord.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Because so when you're seeking the Lord, sometimes you look
like you aren't drunk because you're like, you know, like,
oh God.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
You're right when you're seeking the Lord. It's not just
you know, someone's just like you know, do you know
you know, like.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Hey, hey, you know, so I can just imagine Hannah's
just like having this conversation and just telling the Lord.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
But she looked like she was drunk.
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And then in doom time, Hannah actually conceived and bore
a son, and she named him Samuel, and she says,
I have asked him of the Lord.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I have asked him of the Lord.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know, Hannah asked for what she wanted the most,
which was a son, and she actually envisioned it. So
sometimes when you are asking for something and you're trusting
the Lord because and you can't even see it, you
have to envision it. Envision what it is that you're
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asking for. What is it what you're asking for? Are
you asking for a child?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Envision him? Envision her? Are you asking for a husband?
Envision him?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, don't look at the soap opera, don't look at
these Netflix, that's not him.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Envision him. He's right here in the church. I promise
you he is.
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Speaker 4 (15:59):
But you have to.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Envision it, because Hannah envisioned it, and she had to
trust the Lord. And then what Hannah also did was okay,
she said to the Lord, if you give it to
if you give me a son, I'll give him back
to you.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And I think a lot of us we have to
know that when God blesses you and God.
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Gives it to you at his timing, remember he's the
one who gave it to you.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And what Hannah had to do was she i thing.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You know, when Hannah birthed Samuel, she weaned him and
everything she gave him to the Lord.
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She did what she promised.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And I think a lot of times when we ask
for something which we don't see, and then once we
get it.
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We control it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
We withhold it from the world, we withhold it from people.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
It's because it's like I prayed so hard for this.
I'm not letting this go. And God is saying, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You sought me, you seek me, you asked for it,
and now you don't want to give it back to me,
when at the when, at the beginning, it was actually mine.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I gave you.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I gave you that husband that you asked for, and
now you don't want to give me your marriage.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Right you asked for that.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Son, right, you asked for that daughter, and now you
just want to kick him or her out of the house.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And God is say, what, you prayed for him, you
prayed for her, you sought me. Just give him back
to me, Give him back to me, Give me that marriage,
give me that business, give me that relationship, give me
your your finances, give it to me. Okay. So that's the.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
First thing is that we, you know, in our journey,
how do we keep trusting as we believe in this
unseen trusting the Lord and you have to envision it
and when God.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Gives it to you, give it back to him. Give
back what is owed to him.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
He's blessed your business, tithe, your business, tied off, your
you know your blessings, don't withhold it, don't just keep
it for yourself. The second thing is how do you
and I keep trusting the Lord through this journey?
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Is confident of his promises.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
You know, when when I was going through just you know,
life stuff, you know, or just what's happening in this world,
you know, there's so many things that are happening.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And you can't you just you just kind of start
becoming no a little.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But when you're in it, you know, you're going through challenges,
You're going through something that you can't see. There's no
end to it yet, and you're just waiting for.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
God to act.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You know, you have to rely on the confidence of
his promises. It's trusting God often involves placing your confidence
in all his promises. And what are some of the
promises that God has? And I think I want to
give you scriptures for this because you need to hold
on to scripture. You need to hold on to His word,
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because you need to recite these promises.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Over and over and over and.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Over, because we have to be reminded of what God
says in the Word. Right, So like in Jeremiah twenty
ninety eleven, you hear this all the time. It says
for I know the plans I have for you, says
the Lord. There are plans for good and not for disaster,
to give you a future.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
And a hope.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So when you're so downcast, when you're so discouraged, when
you think life sucks, when you think that you have
no hope, you think you don't have no future, you
think you're done, God is saying no, I'm giving you
a future and I'm giving you a hope, and you
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have to believe it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
This is what God says.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Isaiah forty one ten says, don't be afraid, for I
am with you. Don't be discouraged, For I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you. I will hold
you up with my victorious right hand.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
He says. Don't be afraid.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Stop, don't be fearful, don't go there, Get out of
that fear zone, because he says, I'm with you. Even
if you're afraid, even if you're in that fear he's saying,
I'm with you still, I'm with you. Don't be discouraged.
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He'll strengthen you, He'll hold you up. Philippians for nineteen.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
It says, in the same God who takes care of
me will supply.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
All your needs from His glorious riches, which has been
given to us in Christ Jesus. Sometimes you think financially,
like God, I don't know how I'm gonna pay my
next month. God, I don't know how I'm gonna afford this.
I don't know if I'm gonna able to, you know,
pay my taxes. I don't know if I'm gonna about
to do this or that's that.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
If God provided before, why wouldn't he provide now?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
God is gonna supply all.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
My needs because I sought the Lord, and I trust
the Lord. Isaiah forty three two says, when you go
deep waters, I will be with you. When you go
through rivers of difficulty.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
You will not drown. You won't drown. Okay, I think
some of you need to hear this one. You're not
gonna drown.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
When you walk through the fire of oppression, you will
not be burned up. The flames will not consume you.
Whatever is happening in your life, it's not going to
consume you.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
It won't destroy you.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's not the end and inn Isaiah forty thirty one.
I love this passage. It says, but those who trust
in the Lord will find new strength they were sore,
high on wings like egos, they will run and not
grow weary, and they will walk and not faint. Trusting
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the Lord often often involves placing your full confidence on
his promises. So as you're going through, like for me,
as I was going through, as I am going through, Okay,
even at this moment.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
There's some things that are going through that we're going through.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
It's like it can look chaotic out here, okay.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Like I think the famous phrase the last couple of
days was not what what what?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Like I thought we were done. I thought we were
like gonna get We're gonna we're getting through it. And
then when you get another text, you're like, great, it's.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Not done yet.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And and I even prayed, I said, Lord, thank you
for letting us get through the last two days. The
first day was like, oh my gosh, we are like
it seemed like a like a like it's gonna be
so long on this journey.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
It feels like I was gonna go whini or something.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It takes a long time from Kailoa to Waine, okay,
and you know, and you just seem so you wake up,
Like if you're hopeful for the day, you pray for
the day, and then at twelve o'clock you get a
text You're like, we're.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Still at it. Can it stop? When will it stop?
Speaker 5 (24:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And I just kind of hold onto the promises of
God that He's gonna get us through it and we
won't like we It won't consume us, it won't consume us.
And I'm not gonna be afraid of what could be,
because sometimes I think we think too much of what
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could be versus what it will be.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Right, we have to think what it will be like
like my marriage.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay, it doesn't look good right now, but it will be.
We're gonna be holding hands, walking the beaches, praying and
just speaking of our future.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
That's what I envision. And my son and my daughter.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I see that she is gonna be married with two
kids and raising.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
What or am I talking about, beccap.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Maybe I've been asking for twins.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
So it's really it's speaking what you're gonna see. It's
having to go to.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Set your mind on the things of God and not
set your mind on what is present, because what is
present it doesn't make sense. The third thing is how
do I keep trusting the Lord to this journey, right,
believe in the unseen, confident of his promises. And the
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third thing is surrender and reliance. Surrender and reliance. Okay,
you're seeking the Lord, right, I sought the Lord and
now it's it's really it's trusting God is surrendering control
and relying on his wisdom and guidance. Full surrender, full right.
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You think about like I think about Mother Mary of Jesus. Okay,
she was fourteen years old when God, when the angel
showed up and told her you're gonna be pregnant with
the Messiah. Okay, fourteen years old. Can you imagine the angels,
you know, telling you you're gonna have God in you
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and you haven't had sex. It's like, okay, how would
that ever happen? But she relied on God's guidance and
she trusted his will, his will for her life.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You know, Mary could.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Have actually refused Gabriel's request, the angel Gabriel requests, but
instead she agreed and opened herself up to love, self
sacrifice and into this life transforming.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Experience for her.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
She had to surrender anything of her doubts. She had
to rely on his wisdom, like you know, because I
love how Mary said in Luke one point thirty. She says, here,
I am the servant of the Lord. Let it be
with me according to your word. I think you and
I need to memorize this scripture. Whenever the Lord is
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asking of you of something, the first thing that comes
out of your mouth should be here, I am the
servant of the Lord. Let it be with me according
to your word. Because that's full trust, trusting that this
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is God's will.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
And maybe that wasn't God's will, because.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Sometimes when I just I just know that sometimes when
there's so much struggle okay here, sometimes you have to
wonder was it God's will or was it your will?
Sometimes I'm not saying everything, but that's how I sense
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if it's God's will or not. Sometimes, like there's so
much wrestling here, there's so much things that are just
just not just.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Doesn't feel peaceful.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
There's you know, there's the heart is just not there
and you keep praying and praying and you're asking God
to give you a peace about it, peace about it,
and it just wasn't happening. And sometimes we can force
things to happen and make it God's will and in
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the long run, okay, it's not like your life is
going to be like that, that's it. No, then God
has more of a mess to fix. God always makes adjustments.
His will will always be done in your life, and
he'll make adjustments along your journey. But it's really submitting
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and surrendering and relying on God.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
And then the fourth.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Thing is how do you and I keep trusting the
Lord through this journey? Is having patience and perseverance. Pp
patience and perseverance. Trusting the Lord requires faith to be patient,
to persevere, especially when faith it challenges and unanswered prayers.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I call this God's timing.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
A lot of us don't are patient enough for God's timing.
You know you think about Queen Esther. Queen Esther, you
know you think about when this is her famous passage
right Esther four fourteen. It says, for if you remain
completely silent at this time, relief and deliverance will arise
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for their Jews from another place, But you and your
father's house will perish. Yet who knows whether you have
come to the kingdom for such a time as this,
for such a time as this.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
It took patience.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And perseverance for Esther to approach the king to save
her people, and it had to be the perfect time
tim She fasted, she had her people pray and fast
because she couldn't just get it done. She couldn't just
take control. She couldn't just march into her king, the
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king's presence, because at that time you had to be
invited into his presence. So she knew this was a
very crucial moment that she could either make it happen,
or she could make it not happen, or she could
be killed. But for such a time as this, it
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was patience and perseverance that allowed the people.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
To be saved.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And what we can learn from Esther is that timing
and patience is really important when you're in time of
season where you're learning how to trust God. God's timing
is always on time. God's timing is always on time.
You know, I think about right, A lot of us
have had infertility issues, right, some of us, not all
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of us.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Some of you are like what do you call that?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You keep popping them out, like Penana Penny. But people
like us, like Hannahs, you know, took us a while.
But timing is perfect because all my girls are nine
years apart, which is perfect because I don't know how
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some of you do it. I don't know how Darwyn
and Maria do it. You know, three boys like one
after the other. I'll put them all together and take
them all to the toilet one time together, and eat
one time together, and just.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
But think about it.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Timing and patience is important, and sometimes, you know, what
we can learn from Esther is that sometimes we must
take personal risk to make a difference. Sometimes you are
the difference maker and you're waiting for someone else to
step in, but it's actually you. You know how everyone says, oh,
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we need this, we need that, and they don't do nothing.
They expect somebody else to do it. And you're like, somebody.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Told God told you. God didn't tell her, or God
didn't tell us. I not.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I don't hate, but you know, like people always come like, oh, pastor,
we need this, we need that, we need to do this,
we need to get involved with this and that and this,
and I sudden you.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Go do them.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I said, I get plenty of stuff a dode what
you're doing. It's like I don't even want more thing
on my plate. Maybe your a plate needs some more
stuff on. You know what I'm saying, And someone you
do you get plenty of room on your plate.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I like fill your plate? Would you let me do that?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'm good at that, And that the lessons we can
learn from Esther is that our lives are linked to
a larger community for which we must care for.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
We are we are the changers.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
We are God changers. We are the people that God
is wanting to use in our communities because without you,
who will it be.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Esther could have totally ignored it.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
She could have just walked away and just sat there
and just been a just be a queen and get
all her facials every single day.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
But she knew her people.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Were at stake, just like right now, right in Israel,
there's a lot of people now, the Jews.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
And what's those. What you're going to.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
See more and more and more and more is division.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
We're already experiencing it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
We are all experiencing it, even in our own home.
You can't even talk about politics, you can't even talk
about vaccinations, you can't even talk about Israel now. You
can't talk about stuff because everybody has an opinion. Everybody
has their own personal opinions, and the enemy loves it.
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He's enjoying watching people get divided.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
She fasted, she prayed, and we.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
All are praying for unity, for peace, And how do
we become one is love is loving one another. Yeah,
we can have our views, we can have our opinions.
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That doesn't that doesn't determine our relationship.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And we have to fight for that.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
We have to fight for the relationship more than our opinions.
And that's gonna be hard, because you're gonna have to
trust God, surrendering your what you think is right, what
you know is right, and trusting God that he will
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deliver his people, Trusting God that he will turn it around,
Trusting God that his will shall be done here on
earth as it is in heaven. But every one of
us have to come to a place of fully trusting Him.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
And I think the reason why this.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Word is so crucial that I felt, you know, I
sought the Lord. I think this is a period in time,
for such a time as this, that you and I
are called to seek the Lord more than ever. You're
gonna have to trust the Lord more than ever ever.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Like for me, this was the year for me. I
gotta trust God.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I can't freak out every time something happens. I cannot
I can't freak out already. I think I freaked out
already in the last couple of years. I think I'm
my freak muscle. It's the same one, you know, say
say muscle. It's time my prayer life change. It's time
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that my that I I drank more and I get
more drunk, I start declaring things over this earth, that
I start shouting. I think shouting helps. It changes you first,
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It changes your attitude. You know, like you can be angry, Okay,
you can be angry over the injustice. Okay, but use
that anger and in your prayer, not school God. Okay,
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but say it to the devil.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
In the name of Jesus.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
No, that's not happening here on this earth. No, that's
not happening in my community. That's not happening in my relationship. No, no, no, no,
that's not happening in my school. I'm not going to
sit there and let them educate my kids on things
that they should not be learning. No, we're not going
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to be the one to divide. The Word already divides people.
Let the Word of God be the thing that brings
people together. Because you can't deliver God's word to people
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who don't know God. I think that's one thing I've
learned over my life as a Christian. I can't make
someone understand what I believe if they don't even have
the Holy Spirit in them. You can fight for all
that you want, but this person has no clue because
their Holy Spirit doesn't live in them, because they have
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not received Jesus. Our job is to deliver Jesus to them.
Our job is not to raise the what is right
and what is wrong. Our job is to bring them
to a relationship with Jesus. Then they will have the
Holy Spirit. Then they will know the word of God
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then and a lot of it is through you. And
I truly believe that there is an urgency, like I'll
look at everything that I've been going through this year,
like I'm that type of person that I kind of
have to step back and go, okay, wait, wait, what
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is really happening?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
And Mike and I truly believe it's spiritual attacks.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
It's like spiritual attacks are higher, Like it's like it's
coming up quicker. It's more evident in our lives as well.
We haven't honestly called Pam Zunik like she's our She
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and Nick are like they we go, We tell them everything,
and we're always like texting, Pam, you gotta pray for this,
pray for that. Pam's got a lot of text this
past week.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Who do you go to.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
When you feel like there's a spiritual attack happening? Like
it's can you recognize that this is an attack? Because
sometimes it's really not that person, it's really maybe not
that it's not that person that's making it. There's a
spiritual part about a situation. And so when you recognize
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that as a spiritual attack, you know how to pray
in the spirit. You know how to pray for whatever
it is that God is gonna God's gonna show you.
And you know, I, you know, it's always a fun
night to do this kind of stuff, and it's always
fun to do a fun message where I'm jumping around
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and making stupid you know comments that I.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Sometimes do, but I truly believe.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Trusting the Lord. You know this song, you know, I
told them this is the theme song for tonight. I said,
I sought the Lord and he answered, and he delivered
me from all my fears. I sought the Lord and
he answered, and he delivered all of my fears.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It's when we seek the Lord.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I mean's we come to a place, you know, like
when I read you that post. I've watched my friend
go through this for the last couple of years, and
now she's going to be walking through the last part.
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I don't see it as like, oh my gosh, this
is the worst part. I see it as the last part,
the last part of the journey, and she needs to
finish it.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Well, this is the last.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It's like, come on, stick it out. This is the
hardest part. But you gotta get through it. You have
to walk, hold your head up high, and just go God.
I'm a servant of the Lord. I'm gonna surrender my
my emotions right now. I am gonna walk through this
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valley knowing that for such a time as this, because
I trust you God.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I trust you God.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
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Speaker 1 (44:16):
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Speaker 4 (44:20):
God was severed and through it all, God's promise remain true.
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