June 28, 2023 • 25 mins
Sarah is rejected for a job by countless Texas law firms, so she sets out to create her own opportunity. Meanwhile, in St. Paul, Harry is tortured by the offer of a lifetime.
~~ Cast Credits ~~
Sarah Weddington: Maya Hawke
Harry Blackmun: William H. Macy
Bea: Laura Benanti
Deb: Andrea Savage
Dottie Blackmun: Felicity Huffman
Reporter: Katie Couric
Ron Weddington: Garrett Hedlund
Sally Blackmun: Sophia Macy
Bartender: Pat Kelly
Calvin: Samuel Farnsworth
Cop: Peter Oldring
Dr. Laurie: Paul Tedeschini
FBI Agent: Donte Bonner
Female Patron: Karen Foreman
Mr. Owen’s: Jakob von Eichel
Partner #1: Chris Redman
Partner #2: David Carl
Partner #3: Peter Oldring
Susie: Veronika Slowikowska
Teller: Angela Galanopolous
Warren Burger: William Fichtner
~~ Crew Credits ~~
Supreme: The Battle for Roe is Created and Written by Aaron Tracy
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The story you're about to hear is inspired by true
events nineteen seventy one. Sarah Weddington is a young lawyer
in Dallas, Texas, desperately looking for her first job. At
the same time, in Saint Paul, Minnesota Circuit Court, judge
(00:20):
Harry Blackman is about to receive an offer that will
change his life.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Sarah and Harry are on a.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Collision course that will forever alter America. From iHeart Podcasts,
This is Supreme The Battle for Rome, starring Maya Hawk
and William H.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Macy.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Whenever You're ready, mister Chief Justice and may.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Have played the Court.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Episode one Swinging a bat.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
I see you graduated high school at sixteen, college at nineteen, dear,
first woman from your college to attend law school.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yes, sir, I sure was the very first.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Uh huh, missus Weddington. Let's cut to it. What's your
goal here?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
My goal? I'd like to join your firm, sir. The
law is everything to me.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Yes, But you already have a husband, dear, Sorry, was
that a question?
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Well, at least you wouldn't be hunting for one of
the firm. I suppose you'll leave us the moment you
have kids.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
My husband, and I have no plans to have any.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
Sir, for now, while you're in your early twenties.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Quite a gamble for us to take, Missus Weddington, you understand, sir.
Speaker 9 (01:42):
I graduated in the top quarter of my class, and
that's despite being three years younger than any other student.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yes, but you see, in the office our lawyers use
shall we say.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Colorful language from time to time.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It may offend you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I assure you, sir, I've heard much worse in college.
I was president of the home Beaker's Association of America.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Was that a joke which ansel will get me the job? Sir?
Speaker 7 (02:07):
It's not just sad, Missus Weddington. Only way to train
associates is to cuss them.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Out once in a while. Partners never be able to
do that.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
As someone like.
Speaker 8 (02:15):
You cook your husband dinner dear.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Right, the partner's wives may have an issue with an
associated with.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Legs like yours.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I see.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
We just don't have a spot for you.
Speaker 10 (02:34):
Personal Injury Lawyers of Dallas.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
How can I jerk your car?
Speaker 11 (02:37):
How fast can you?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Ty, sweetie?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Honestly I have no idea.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Well, we're short on clerks, so just do your best.
The pay is a dollar ninety five an hour.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'll take it.
Speaker 12 (03:01):
After successfully placing Warren Berger on the Supreme Court, President
Nixon has struck out with his next two high profile nominees.
Both men became engulfed in scandal and lost difficult confirmation battles,
an embarrassing setback for the president. The question is, will
mister Nixon managed to find someone who can rise above
(03:21):
controversy in these deeply polarized times and in other.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
News A jewish by the Chicago Deft.
Speaker 12 (03:31):
Guilty of the.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Drake there, buddy, Hello, buddy, boy, looks like you got
a lot more cons and pros there? What your list
on the cocktail napkin there? Most guys use that to
have girls write their phone numbers on them. But here
let me see cons loss of contact, my friends and
(03:56):
family lonely.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Don't read that.
Speaker 8 (03:58):
Okay, what's list four?
Speaker 7 (04:01):
I may be offered a job. This is just how
I chew things over.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
A job in this economy. Whatever it is, buddy, I
take it, bart tender.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I'll have whatever my buddy's drinking. Keep them coming. This
is the spot you picked, Harry.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
You said you wanted low Keywarren or was it under
the radar? I was flight in long wait.
Speaker 11 (04:26):
I've been here before.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I can't believe this dump is still open. You're feeling
nostalgic or.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
What something like that. It's good to see you, Warren.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
You look absolutely green, Harry. When I got the call,
I went for a drink too, but not like this.
I certainly hope it's not because you're his third choice.
Speaker 13 (04:46):
No, I shouldn't have been in his top five hundred,
let alone top three.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Consider yourself lucky. His first two nominees got rejected. Now
he needs someone uncontroversial exactly, and I got sport Coat's
more controversial than you, Harry.
Speaker 13 (05:02):
I'm honored to be the most boring man you could
think of, Warren.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Look, it would be an interesting got haynes Worth fifty
five forty five rejection.
Speaker 11 (05:10):
You're perfect, Harry.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
I'm thinking of turning him down.
Speaker 11 (05:17):
Bartender.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
We're gonna switch the devils over here.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
I don't want the spotlight. I'm not like you, Warren.
Speaker 11 (05:23):
Please, that's your father talking.
Speaker 13 (05:25):
I know this is difficult for you to understand that
I have no aspirations for fame.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
You sit on the eighth circuit, Harry, you're not exactly anonymous.
Speaker 13 (05:34):
Excuse me, ma'am. I'm sorry to bother you. Do you
know who Harry Blackman is.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Don't think so? Should?
Speaker 14 (05:40):
I know?
Speaker 13 (05:40):
You absolutely should not. Thank you now, you see I
don't want that to change.
Speaker 11 (05:46):
Excuse me, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Who's Warren Berger, Chief Justice of the United States, the
most powerful jurist in the country.
Speaker 11 (05:55):
Bring any bows, any at all?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
No?
Speaker 11 (05:58):
Sorry, thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
You see anonymous, You'll remain It's America, Harry. Seventy five
percent of people can name the Seven Dwarves, but I
bet you anything, three out of four can't name a
single Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 13 (06:12):
How many of the seven Dwarfs had had their lives
picked apart by the Senate Judiciary Committee one.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
You don't need me to tell you what kind of
opportunity this is. This is what puts you in the
history books.
Speaker 11 (06:25):
Harry. I refuse to let you blow it.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
And what happens if we disagree in a case?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Christ Harry, I hope we do. How will it look
if you side with me on everything? They're gonna find
out you were best man at my wedding and brought
a date to my senior prom Hell, your mom's cooked
me more pot roast than my own. Plus we're both
Nixon met it'll be good for public perception.
Speaker 9 (06:47):
On the rare.
Speaker 11 (06:48):
Occasions we disagree.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
You just know they're gonna print your mom's nickname for
us as soon as you're seated.
Speaker 13 (06:53):
The Minnesota Twins. It did occur to me. It'll be
an answer in some poor kid's history exams.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Can you imagine if somebody had told us when we
were that age that one day we'd be sitting on
the Supreme Court together? Harry, we were going to climb mountains.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
This is how we do that.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Oh, I feel like the roof is caved in on me.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Next.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
Hi, Sorry, I'm in a big hurry. I'm just on
my lunch break. I need to open a credit card. Please,
here are my forms. Let's have a look.
Speaker 15 (07:50):
Way there, Sarah Calvin, Hello, I haven't seen you since graduation?
How you doing, Darling? What from you end up at?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh, a smaller one.
Speaker 15 (08:01):
I'm at Whitfield Taft, Brad Peter and I'll land it
up there.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Actually, Oh, okay, all right, missus Weddington. Everything's in order.
We'll just need your husband's signature and you're all set.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh, if he's not here, take it home, bring it
back anytime next.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, see, I need it today. I don't have time
to come back.
Speaker 15 (08:21):
She's telling the truth, ma'am. She's an attorney. They run
us associate's ragged.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Says on your application. You work in a clerical office,
Missus Weddington.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just need the credit card, please, ma'am your husband.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
I'm the one who makes the money in the family.
Such as it is, this is my credit.
Speaker 15 (08:38):
Card, ma'am. I can vouch for the little lady, smartest
girl lawyer. I know she ran circles around us.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Boys at ut I'm sorry, Missus Weddington. Bank policy a
man's signature is required. I'm sure your husband won't mind.
Speaker 9 (08:52):
I'm putting my husband through law school on my clerical salary,
whether he minds or.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Puts yourself in our place, Missus Weddington. If women were
allowed to open up credit cards on a whim, a
lot of them would just go on to shopping spree.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
Maybe your friend here could sign no, that's not necessary,
thank you.
Speaker 15 (09:11):
See you around then, Sarah, you.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Look nervous, Harry, nonsense, Dottie. This is what I look
like when I grill.
Speaker 16 (09:34):
Uh huh. You flipped that burger fourteen times. I believe
it's ready.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
I just want this to go.
Speaker 17 (09:40):
Well it will.
Speaker 16 (09:42):
I'm not worried about one of them any other.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
Well.
Speaker 16 (09:45):
Remember, she's just a person like you or me.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
She is not like you or me.
Speaker 16 (09:50):
Oh boy, oh, here we go. Deep breath, my love,
we'll face them together. Yeah out here, girls, Lord give
us strength.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
Ooh, it smells great.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So did you hear they had to cancel his birthday?
Speaker 16 (10:06):
Who's birthday? Oh, Susie, don't start.
Speaker 18 (10:10):
They practically had to barricade the White House.
Speaker 11 (10:12):
Mom.
Speaker 13 (10:13):
I don't think protesters have the ability to cancel the
president's birthday, Susan, as much as you wish they could.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh my god, she's just being dramatic. Dad as always, Hi.
Speaker 16 (10:23):
John Jay, Clarence Darrow, Hi Atticus, don't ignore Harmon kill
a brew and Billy Martin.
Speaker 19 (10:30):
Girls, I was just about to say, hello, mom, all right,
if Doctor Doolittle hour is over, Sally, Susan, your mother
and I.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Need to speak with you.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
What's going on? Dad?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Would you like a burger?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
What's wrong?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Daddy?
Speaker 9 (10:44):
Are you sick?
Speaker 16 (10:45):
Nothing's wrong? Calm down, Susie.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Well that's a matter of opinion. Uncle Warren wants me
to join him on the bench.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Wait the bench? Are you serious? Can Uncle Warren do that?
Speaker 19 (10:57):
Isn't it up to The President has apparently agreed, my
chief qualification being I'm uncontroversial. It's rather like being picked
to play shortstop at the Twins because I'm the same
shoe size as the previous fellow.
Speaker 18 (11:10):
Also that you're a prominent member of a group passing
off cranky, outdated, closed minded, bigoted, paranoid opinions in response
to positive changes taking place in this country as if
they were genuine ideas, otherwise known as a Republican feel good.
Speaker 20 (11:25):
To get that off your chest, Susie, Dad's a judge.
His political party has no bearing hole Sally.
Speaker 16 (11:32):
Actually, your father hasn't decided if he's taking the job yet.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Really, why not?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
I despise DC Sally.
Speaker 20 (11:40):
Okay, so allergies are our biggest concern here.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
No, not the weather anyway, this is a family decision.
Speaker 13 (11:48):
You and your sisters will be affected, and your poor mother,
she'll have to leave the dress shop in Rochester.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
None of us gets out of this unharmed.
Speaker 16 (11:56):
Unharmed. That's a little dramatic. Harry, even for you. I'm
quite certain there are dress shops in DC, Susie. I
think we all know where you stand. Sally. You haven't
expressed an opinion yet.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
She's obviously for it. Mom, she's dad in a dress.
Speaker 15 (12:12):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't know, Okay, Well.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
No one knows. I'm asking what you think.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And I'm saying I don't know.
Speaker 20 (12:20):
I mean, I think it's sort of rich that they
want you to tell the whole country what to do
on every conceivable issue, when you can't even tell your
own daughter what to do when she needs it.
Speaker 16 (12:30):
Young lady, what on earth is that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 20 (12:34):
I'm sorry. I'm proud of you, Daddy, I really am.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Come here, Judge, come here, Yes, yes you are, study.
Speaker 17 (13:03):
Sarah.
Speaker 21 (13:04):
I'm grabbing a sandwich next door.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You want, thanks, Pete. I actually brought from home today,
trying to cut down on expenses.
Speaker 21 (13:10):
Deb want medthing. Oh and I'm gonna be twenty minutes
late to the bake sale tomorrow.
Speaker 17 (13:15):
Oh, just till the whole office be well.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
The idea is to actually sell pastries.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
Deb, we could use some customers, mister Sims office. I'm sorry,
there's no missus Walter here, this is mister Sims office.
Speaker 17 (13:30):
You have the wrong numbe that's for me. Prom Queen
allah Hi, I told you not to call on this line. Nope,
do not come here. I'll call you back from the
payphone across the street. You're in the lobby.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
What is going on?
Speaker 17 (13:44):
B get over here.
Speaker 21 (13:46):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Dev?
Speaker 14 (13:47):
Doctor Lorry is in the lobby. He's about to be
arrested again. Yes, he's coming up.
Speaker 21 (13:52):
Doctor Lorry is coming here.
Speaker 17 (13:54):
Paul together, be okay, we only have a second.
Speaker 14 (13:56):
He's got two cops on him. He needs time to
get bail money together so he doesn't spend county.
Speaker 21 (14:00):
Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god, oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
We're gonna go to jail down.
Speaker 17 (14:04):
We're not going to Jay.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Can I help?
Speaker 7 (14:06):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No?
Speaker 17 (14:08):
And stop eavesdropping?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Deb deb deb?
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Oh? I really I really need your help.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Doctor Lourie, come here right behind me.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Where should we have him?
Speaker 17 (14:21):
The storage closet?
Speaker 9 (14:22):
Go?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Where is he?
Speaker 17 (14:28):
Hello, officer the doctor?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Where do you go?
Speaker 16 (14:31):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (14:31):
This is a clerical office, but there's a clinic down
the street.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Where are you hiding him?
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Who?
Speaker 17 (14:36):
Officer?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Lady, don't get cute.
Speaker 17 (14:38):
I'm not really sure what you mean? Girls? Have we
seen a doctor?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What do I don't know?
Speaker 17 (14:42):
We haven't seen anyone.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You you in the Phillip pink? What's your name?
Speaker 21 (14:46):
Me?
Speaker 15 (14:47):
I'm nobody, I said, what's your name?
Speaker 17 (14:49):
She's no one, she doesn't know anything.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm Sarah Weddington.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Where did the doctor go?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Missus Weddington?
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Lying to a police officer can get you in a
lot of trouble.
Speaker 9 (14:58):
Dear, I really don't know what you're referring to, Officer.
This is a clerical office. I haven't seen any doctor.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Give me your keys.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
We're checking every office, closet and utility room in this
damn place.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
We'll find him, of course, Officer happy to once you
show me your warrant.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Don't get cute, sweetie.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
I don't need a warrant.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
I mean you don't have a warrant, which makes this
an unauthorized search of private property. I can't give you
my keys, but I can't see you out.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Like I said, cute, I find my own way out.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I hope I did, all right, Dad?
Speaker 17 (15:37):
You see that last night on the Bold Ones or something.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
Good news is these have got to be the cleanest
returns I've ever seen. You're not a risk taker, Judge
black Man. Then used to be what's this houseworth?
Speaker 17 (16:00):
Judge?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Why in the market? Agent Johnson?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Judge Blackman, please, why would.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
You possibly need to know the value of my house?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Sir?
Speaker 10 (16:09):
The more questions you ask, the longer this background check
is gonna take. You gotta be transparent. If you're nominated
to the Supreme Court, your middle school transcripts will become
public record.
Speaker 13 (16:19):
I must have missed that part of Article three UM
twenty five thousand. Maybe okay, and please, hey, be careful
with those papers. They're in a very specific order.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Laddie. Now you're in for it. Agent in here, Susan,
what is all this?
Speaker 13 (16:38):
This, Susan, is a colonoscopy posing as a background check.
Say hello to agent Johnson. If he stays another fifteen minutes,
he'll know more about me than your mother does.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's so said that that's.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
True, all due respect, Judge, you're getting off easy. Our
vetting process is usually much more invasive. But there seems
to be some urgency here.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, because Nixon blue with.
Speaker 18 (17:00):
His first two nominees, Susan, he did dun.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
The seat's been vacant a year, so your Susan the youngest.
This actually saves me a trip if you have a moment.
Speaker 13 (17:11):
Absolutely out of the question, dud, It's okay, my daughters
are off limits.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Agent Johnson.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Really not how this works, Judge.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
All right, Dad, what do you need to know?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I have here?
Speaker 10 (17:21):
You went to work for the Naval Medical Research Institute
after college, that's right, but you've since left.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Okay, I see where this is going.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
What does this have to do with my nomination?
Speaker 10 (17:31):
You and three female colleagues have filed the class action suit.
Speaker 17 (17:34):
Yes, we have.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Again, this has nothing to do with how I would
rule from the bench.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
Judge, I'll due respect. You don't see how this is relevant.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I certainly do not take my word for it, Judge,
it is.
Speaker 19 (17:48):
If I can just say something, my daughter being a
party in a lawsuit has no bearing.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's who she's suing, Judge.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Who she's suing is im material.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
She's suing the United States Navy.
Speaker 18 (17:59):
It's about sexual discrimination. They treated us differently, They treated
us terribly.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
You've also joined anti war protests, sometimes violent ones, on
several occasions.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Miss Blackman, Yeah, who has it?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Okay, we're done here.
Speaker 10 (18:12):
Miss Your father's being considered for a position that would
make him one of the most powerful people in government
with a lifetime tenure. If I didn't ask about your
apparent distaste for our country, I wouldn't be doing my job.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
My distaste for our country.
Speaker 13 (18:26):
Out of my house, Agent Johnson, now judge out, Well,
that actually went better than I thought it would.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You can do this there. Come on, deep breath, deep breath, life,
isn't everything? Get out of the car.
Speaker 14 (18:57):
Come on, nothing from your friend at the Dallas Morning
News be I mean, how can they not want to
report about doctors being persecuted like this?
Speaker 21 (19:19):
I stopped ask him when he said he'd need to
write about our referral network. I don't particularly want to
go to jail.
Speaker 17 (19:25):
Deb Well, something's got to give.
Speaker 21 (19:27):
Well, that's the whole point of filing suit. But no
Texas court will agree to hear.
Speaker 17 (19:32):
Us, which is why we ought to go federal.
Speaker 21 (19:35):
How can that to pay for that deb We're sitting
in your damn driveway. Even if the carrot cake, If
this bake sale is any good, we'd had three customers
all day.
Speaker 17 (19:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (19:45):
More bake sales, garage sales, whatever it takes. My sister
works at County and last night, she admitted a woman
who nearly killed herself trying to use chopsticks. Women are
drinking castor oil? Do you hear what I'm saying? I
do not have time to wait?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Hello?
Speaker 17 (20:02):
Am I interrupting prom queen.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's Sarah? Actually Sarah Weddington.
Speaker 17 (20:07):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yesterday at the office? I overheard you're having a big sale.
You have a sweet tooth, sweetie, take your pick.
Speaker 21 (20:15):
We could use the money.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And you're trying to file a federal lawsuit.
Speaker 17 (20:19):
This is a closed meeting. Actually, be nice.
Speaker 21 (20:23):
Deb Sarah's not a cop. She works ten feet from you.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
A lawsuit over the Texas abortion laws. Right.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
I sort of figured the cop who came into the
office yesterday chasing that doctor.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It was about a referral.
Speaker 21 (20:35):
Service, right, Pregnant women call, We let them know where
they can find a doctor.
Speaker 17 (20:41):
Who will help me.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You don't know who.
Speaker 17 (20:43):
Princess will go squealing.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
To help them and their pregnancy.
Speaker 17 (20:48):
No, help them get their nail polish removed? Is this
chick for real?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Are you in the movement?
Speaker 17 (20:53):
Sarah? Look at her bee.
Speaker 14 (20:55):
A ten pound cat would disappear in that hairdoo. She's
obviously not do.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
You quiet, deb Sarah, She's right, I'm not in the movement.
Speaker 14 (21:06):
No kidding, and she obviously doesn't have any experience with abortion, right.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
Look, I don't think that's who you should be looking
for or what you need. And we may be able
to help each other.
Speaker 17 (21:18):
Yeah, I don't think so help each other.
Speaker 9 (21:20):
How, Sarah, Well, I'm not really a typist.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
Ooh, let me guess avon, lady, No, president of the PTA,
I'm a lawyer.
Speaker 21 (21:29):
Really?
Speaker 17 (21:29):
Oh please? You went to law school.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Graduating near the top of my class.
Speaker 17 (21:35):
Mm hmm. You ever worked on a case?
Speaker 9 (21:37):
Just a couple of wills and an adoption from my uncle.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You've been to court? Then court? Oh? No, god?
Speaker 14 (21:45):
No, Okay, Look, beauty, queen, you seem sweet, and that's
a very pretty pastel dress you have on. But we
don't need some twenty nine year old coming in here
and telling.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Us twenty five actually, wow, there.
Speaker 17 (21:58):
You go, now, if you'll expa wait.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
A second, you're talking about challenging a two hundred year
old law on the grounds of women's rights in a
state where it's still technically illegal for a girl to
adjust her stockings in public. It's not long since I
played high school basketball, and we weren't allowed to take
more than two dribbles before passing off for fear that
the exertion would damage our reproductive capacities.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
What you're trying to do is impossible.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
And I promise you your opposition isn't sitting around a bake
sale right now. Your opposition is the sovereign state of Texas,
presumably District Attorney Henry Wade, who's been on the job
thirty five years and send as many men to death row.
Speaker 21 (22:36):
So you think it's hopeless, Sarah.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
I know it's hopeless, Bee, so do you. But that
doesn't matter it does it. A lawsuit will make some noise,
and noise is what's required right now. Noise is what
wakes people up.
Speaker 17 (22:49):
Well said.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Now, I'm not in the movement. I don't know a
ton about women's live That's not my passion. You know
what My passion is the law. Ever since I was
a little girl, there's nothing else I wanted to do.
It sounds like you all have no money to hire
a lawyer, and even if you did, no respectable attorney
would take you on. I'm not used to a certain
myself like this, So forgive me if I'm doing it wrong.
(23:12):
But I came here today to say I think maybe
we're a match.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
What's in it for you, Sarah? We can't pay you.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
I interviewed at every firm in Texas that would meet
with me after my graduation. It was always too delicate,
too pretty, too bad. I just need a shot, I
need a case.
Speaker 14 (23:32):
Flowery speech is aside. We need a real lawyer. We
don't want to be laughed at.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
You're probably right, dev A federal lawsuit is huge. You
need a law firm's resources, and we've tried.
Speaker 21 (23:45):
A dozen firms have turned us down.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
I know the feeling, and it's a shame because a
federal lawsuit is incredibly complex and time intensive. Putting it
in my hands would be like asking some guy you
found swinging a bat in your driveway.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
If you wanted to play for the Texas Rangers.
Speaker 17 (23:58):
Well, thank you for understanding by now.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
But the thing is, we're standing in your driveway and
I don't see anyone else swinging it back.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Supreme The Battle Farah from iHeart Podcasts created and written
by Aaron Tracy, directed by Rachel Winter, starring Maya Hawk,
William H. Macy, and Abigail Breslan also featuring Laura Bonanti
as b Andrea Savage as deb, William Fickner as Warren,
Felicity Huffman as Dottie, Garrett Hedlund as Ron, Sophia Macy
(24:43):
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the Reporter. Executive produced by Eva Longoria, Ben Spector, Rachel Winter,
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Director of Audio Chris Kelly. Original score by Hamilton Leitthhauser
and Anna Stump, Edited and sound designed by Paul Tatoskini.
Narrated by Lacrisia Brown. For a full list of credits,
please see show notes.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
This is a production of Unbelievable Entertainment in partnership with iHeartRadio.
The story you're about to hear is inspired by true
events nineteen seventy one. Sarah Weddington is a young lawyer
in Dallas, Texas, desperately looking for her first job. At
the same time, in Saint Paul, Minnesota Circuit Court, judge
(00:20):
Harry Blackman is about to receive an offer that will
change his life.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Sarah and Harry are on a.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Collision course that will forever alter America. From iHeart Podcasts,
This is Supreme The Battle for Rome, starring Maya Hawk
and William H.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Macy.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Whenever You're ready, mister Chief Justice and may.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Have played the Court.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Episode one Swinging a bat.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
I see you graduated high school at sixteen, college at nineteen, dear,
first woman from your college to attend law school.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yes, sir, I sure was the very first.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Uh huh, missus Weddington. Let's cut to it. What's your
goal here?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
My goal? I'd like to join your firm, sir. The
law is everything to me.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Yes, But you already have a husband, dear, Sorry, was
that a question?
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Well, at least you wouldn't be hunting for one of
the firm. I suppose you'll leave us the moment you
have kids.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
My husband, and I have no plans to have any.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
Sir, for now, while you're in your early twenties.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Quite a gamble for us to take, Missus Weddington, you understand, sir.
Speaker 9 (01:42):
I graduated in the top quarter of my class, and
that's despite being three years younger than any other student.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yes, but you see, in the office our lawyers use
shall we say.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Colorful language from time to time.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It may offend you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I assure you, sir, I've heard much worse in college.
I was president of the home Beaker's Association of America.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Was that a joke which ansel will get me the job? Sir?
Speaker 7 (02:07):
It's not just sad, Missus Weddington. Only way to train
associates is to cuss them.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Out once in a while. Partners never be able to
do that.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
As someone like.
Speaker 8 (02:15):
You cook your husband dinner dear.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Right, the partner's wives may have an issue with an
associated with.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Legs like yours.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I see.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
We just don't have a spot for you.
Speaker 10 (02:34):
Personal Injury Lawyers of Dallas.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
How can I jerk your car?
Speaker 11 (02:37):
How fast can you?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Ty, sweetie?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Honestly I have no idea.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Well, we're short on clerks, so just do your best.
The pay is a dollar ninety five an hour.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'll take it.
Speaker 12 (03:01):
After successfully placing Warren Berger on the Supreme Court, President
Nixon has struck out with his next two high profile nominees.
Both men became engulfed in scandal and lost difficult confirmation battles,
an embarrassing setback for the president. The question is, will
mister Nixon managed to find someone who can rise above
(03:21):
controversy in these deeply polarized times and in other.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
News A jewish by the Chicago Deft.
Speaker 12 (03:31):
Guilty of the.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Drake there, buddy, Hello, buddy, boy, looks like you got
a lot more cons and pros there? What your list
on the cocktail napkin there? Most guys use that to
have girls write their phone numbers on them. But here
let me see cons loss of contact, my friends and
(03:56):
family lonely.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Don't read that.
Speaker 8 (03:58):
Okay, what's list four?
Speaker 7 (04:01):
I may be offered a job. This is just how
I chew things over.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
A job in this economy. Whatever it is, buddy, I
take it, bart tender.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I'll have whatever my buddy's drinking. Keep them coming. This
is the spot you picked, Harry.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
You said you wanted low Keywarren or was it under
the radar? I was flight in long wait.
Speaker 11 (04:26):
I've been here before.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I can't believe this dump is still open. You're feeling
nostalgic or.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
What something like that. It's good to see you, Warren.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
You look absolutely green, Harry. When I got the call,
I went for a drink too, but not like this.
I certainly hope it's not because you're his third choice.
Speaker 13 (04:46):
No, I shouldn't have been in his top five hundred,
let alone top three.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Consider yourself lucky. His first two nominees got rejected. Now
he needs someone uncontroversial exactly, and I got sport Coat's
more controversial than you, Harry.
Speaker 13 (05:02):
I'm honored to be the most boring man you could
think of, Warren.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Look, it would be an interesting got haynes Worth fifty
five forty five rejection.
Speaker 11 (05:10):
You're perfect, Harry.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
I'm thinking of turning him down.
Speaker 11 (05:17):
Bartender.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
We're gonna switch the devils over here.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
I don't want the spotlight. I'm not like you, Warren.
Speaker 11 (05:23):
Please, that's your father talking.
Speaker 13 (05:25):
I know this is difficult for you to understand that
I have no aspirations for fame.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
You sit on the eighth circuit, Harry, you're not exactly anonymous.
Speaker 13 (05:34):
Excuse me, ma'am. I'm sorry to bother you. Do you
know who Harry Blackman is.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Don't think so? Should?
Speaker 14 (05:40):
I know?
Speaker 13 (05:40):
You absolutely should not. Thank you now, you see I
don't want that to change.
Speaker 11 (05:46):
Excuse me, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Who's Warren Berger, Chief Justice of the United States, the
most powerful jurist in the country.
Speaker 11 (05:55):
Bring any bows, any at all?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
No?
Speaker 11 (05:58):
Sorry, thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
You see anonymous, You'll remain It's America, Harry. Seventy five
percent of people can name the Seven Dwarves, but I
bet you anything, three out of four can't name a
single Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 13 (06:12):
How many of the seven Dwarfs had had their lives
picked apart by the Senate Judiciary Committee one.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
You don't need me to tell you what kind of
opportunity this is. This is what puts you in the
history books.
Speaker 11 (06:25):
Harry. I refuse to let you blow it.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
And what happens if we disagree in a case?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Christ Harry, I hope we do. How will it look
if you side with me on everything? They're gonna find
out you were best man at my wedding and brought
a date to my senior prom Hell, your mom's cooked
me more pot roast than my own. Plus we're both
Nixon met it'll be good for public perception.
Speaker 9 (06:47):
On the rare.
Speaker 11 (06:48):
Occasions we disagree.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
You just know they're gonna print your mom's nickname for
us as soon as you're seated.
Speaker 13 (06:53):
The Minnesota Twins. It did occur to me. It'll be
an answer in some poor kid's history exams.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Can you imagine if somebody had told us when we
were that age that one day we'd be sitting on
the Supreme Court together? Harry, we were going to climb mountains.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
This is how we do that.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Oh, I feel like the roof is caved in on me.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Next.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
Hi, Sorry, I'm in a big hurry. I'm just on
my lunch break. I need to open a credit card. Please,
here are my forms. Let's have a look.
Speaker 15 (07:50):
Way there, Sarah Calvin, Hello, I haven't seen you since graduation?
How you doing, Darling? What from you end up at?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh, a smaller one.
Speaker 15 (08:01):
I'm at Whitfield Taft, Brad Peter and I'll land it
up there.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Actually, Oh, okay, all right, missus Weddington. Everything's in order.
We'll just need your husband's signature and you're all set.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh, if he's not here, take it home, bring it
back anytime next.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, see, I need it today. I don't have time
to come back.
Speaker 15 (08:21):
She's telling the truth, ma'am. She's an attorney. They run
us associate's ragged.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Says on your application. You work in a clerical office,
Missus Weddington.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just need the credit card, please, ma'am your husband.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
I'm the one who makes the money in the family.
Such as it is, this is my credit.
Speaker 15 (08:38):
Card, ma'am. I can vouch for the little lady, smartest
girl lawyer. I know she ran circles around us.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Boys at ut I'm sorry, Missus Weddington. Bank policy a
man's signature is required. I'm sure your husband won't mind.
Speaker 9 (08:52):
I'm putting my husband through law school on my clerical salary,
whether he minds or.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Puts yourself in our place, Missus Weddington. If women were
allowed to open up credit cards on a whim, a
lot of them would just go on to shopping spree.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
Maybe your friend here could sign no, that's not necessary,
thank you.
Speaker 15 (09:11):
See you around then, Sarah, you.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Look nervous, Harry, nonsense, Dottie. This is what I look
like when I grill.
Speaker 16 (09:34):
Uh huh. You flipped that burger fourteen times. I believe
it's ready.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
I just want this to go.
Speaker 17 (09:40):
Well it will.
Speaker 16 (09:42):
I'm not worried about one of them any other.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
Well.
Speaker 16 (09:45):
Remember, she's just a person like you or me.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
She is not like you or me.
Speaker 16 (09:50):
Oh boy, oh, here we go. Deep breath, my love,
we'll face them together. Yeah out here, girls, Lord give
us strength.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
Ooh, it smells great.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So did you hear they had to cancel his birthday?
Speaker 16 (10:06):
Who's birthday? Oh, Susie, don't start.
Speaker 18 (10:10):
They practically had to barricade the White House.
Speaker 11 (10:12):
Mom.
Speaker 13 (10:13):
I don't think protesters have the ability to cancel the
president's birthday, Susan, as much as you wish they could.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh my god, she's just being dramatic. Dad as always, Hi.
Speaker 16 (10:23):
John Jay, Clarence Darrow, Hi Atticus, don't ignore Harmon kill
a brew and Billy Martin.
Speaker 19 (10:30):
Girls, I was just about to say, hello, mom, all right,
if Doctor Doolittle hour is over, Sally, Susan, your mother
and I.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Need to speak with you.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
What's going on? Dad?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Would you like a burger?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
What's wrong?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Daddy?
Speaker 9 (10:44):
Are you sick?
Speaker 16 (10:45):
Nothing's wrong? Calm down, Susie.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Well that's a matter of opinion. Uncle Warren wants me
to join him on the bench.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Wait the bench? Are you serious? Can Uncle Warren do that?
Speaker 19 (10:57):
Isn't it up to The President has apparently agreed, my
chief qualification being I'm uncontroversial. It's rather like being picked
to play shortstop at the Twins because I'm the same
shoe size as the previous fellow.
Speaker 18 (11:10):
Also that you're a prominent member of a group passing
off cranky, outdated, closed minded, bigoted, paranoid opinions in response
to positive changes taking place in this country as if
they were genuine ideas, otherwise known as a Republican feel good.
Speaker 20 (11:25):
To get that off your chest, Susie, Dad's a judge.
His political party has no bearing hole Sally.
Speaker 16 (11:32):
Actually, your father hasn't decided if he's taking the job yet.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Really, why not?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
I despise DC Sally.
Speaker 20 (11:40):
Okay, so allergies are our biggest concern here.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
No, not the weather anyway, this is a family decision.
Speaker 13 (11:48):
You and your sisters will be affected, and your poor mother,
she'll have to leave the dress shop in Rochester.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
None of us gets out of this unharmed.
Speaker 16 (11:56):
Unharmed. That's a little dramatic. Harry, even for you. I'm
quite certain there are dress shops in DC, Susie. I
think we all know where you stand. Sally. You haven't
expressed an opinion yet.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
She's obviously for it. Mom, she's dad in a dress.
Speaker 15 (12:12):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't know, Okay, Well.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
No one knows. I'm asking what you think.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And I'm saying I don't know.
Speaker 20 (12:20):
I mean, I think it's sort of rich that they
want you to tell the whole country what to do
on every conceivable issue, when you can't even tell your
own daughter what to do when she needs it.
Speaker 16 (12:30):
Young lady, what on earth is that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 20 (12:34):
I'm sorry. I'm proud of you, Daddy, I really am.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Come here, Judge, come here, Yes, yes you are, study.
Speaker 17 (13:03):
Sarah.
Speaker 21 (13:04):
I'm grabbing a sandwich next door.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You want, thanks, Pete. I actually brought from home today,
trying to cut down on expenses.
Speaker 21 (13:10):
Deb want medthing. Oh and I'm gonna be twenty minutes
late to the bake sale tomorrow.
Speaker 17 (13:15):
Oh, just till the whole office be well.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
The idea is to actually sell pastries.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
Deb, we could use some customers, mister Sims office. I'm sorry,
there's no missus Walter here, this is mister Sims office.
Speaker 17 (13:30):
You have the wrong numbe that's for me. Prom Queen
allah Hi, I told you not to call on this line. Nope,
do not come here. I'll call you back from the
payphone across the street. You're in the lobby.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
What is going on?
Speaker 17 (13:44):
B get over here.
Speaker 21 (13:46):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Dev?
Speaker 14 (13:47):
Doctor Lorry is in the lobby. He's about to be
arrested again. Yes, he's coming up.
Speaker 21 (13:52):
Doctor Lorry is coming here.
Speaker 17 (13:54):
Paul together, be okay, we only have a second.
Speaker 14 (13:56):
He's got two cops on him. He needs time to
get bail money together so he doesn't spend county.
Speaker 21 (14:00):
Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god, oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
We're gonna go to jail down.
Speaker 17 (14:04):
We're not going to Jay.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Can I help?
Speaker 7 (14:06):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No?
Speaker 17 (14:08):
And stop eavesdropping?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Deb deb deb?
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Oh? I really I really need your help.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Doctor Lourie, come here right behind me.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Where should we have him?
Speaker 17 (14:21):
The storage closet?
Speaker 9 (14:22):
Go?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Where is he?
Speaker 17 (14:28):
Hello, officer the doctor?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Where do you go?
Speaker 16 (14:31):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (14:31):
This is a clerical office, but there's a clinic down
the street.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Where are you hiding him?
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Who?
Speaker 17 (14:36):
Officer?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Lady, don't get cute.
Speaker 17 (14:38):
I'm not really sure what you mean? Girls? Have we
seen a doctor?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What do I don't know?
Speaker 17 (14:42):
We haven't seen anyone.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You you in the Phillip pink? What's your name?
Speaker 21 (14:46):
Me?
Speaker 15 (14:47):
I'm nobody, I said, what's your name?
Speaker 17 (14:49):
She's no one, she doesn't know anything.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm Sarah Weddington.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Where did the doctor go?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Missus Weddington?
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Lying to a police officer can get you in a
lot of trouble.
Speaker 9 (14:58):
Dear, I really don't know what you're referring to, Officer.
This is a clerical office. I haven't seen any doctor.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Give me your keys.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
We're checking every office, closet and utility room in this
damn place.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
We'll find him, of course, Officer happy to once you
show me your warrant.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Don't get cute, sweetie.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
I don't need a warrant.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
I mean you don't have a warrant, which makes this
an unauthorized search of private property. I can't give you
my keys, but I can't see you out.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Like I said, cute, I find my own way out.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I hope I did, all right, Dad?
Speaker 17 (15:37):
You see that last night on the Bold Ones or something.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
Good news is these have got to be the cleanest
returns I've ever seen. You're not a risk taker, Judge
black Man. Then used to be what's this houseworth?
Speaker 17 (16:00):
Judge?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Why in the market? Agent Johnson?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Judge Blackman, please, why would.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
You possibly need to know the value of my house?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Sir?
Speaker 10 (16:09):
The more questions you ask, the longer this background check
is gonna take. You gotta be transparent. If you're nominated
to the Supreme Court, your middle school transcripts will become
public record.
Speaker 13 (16:19):
I must have missed that part of Article three UM
twenty five thousand. Maybe okay, and please, hey, be careful
with those papers. They're in a very specific order.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Laddie. Now you're in for it. Agent in here, Susan,
what is all this?
Speaker 13 (16:38):
This, Susan, is a colonoscopy posing as a background check.
Say hello to agent Johnson. If he stays another fifteen minutes,
he'll know more about me than your mother does.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's so said that that's.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
True, all due respect, Judge, you're getting off easy. Our
vetting process is usually much more invasive. But there seems
to be some urgency here.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, because Nixon blue with.
Speaker 18 (17:00):
His first two nominees, Susan, he did dun.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
The seat's been vacant a year, so your Susan the youngest.
This actually saves me a trip if you have a moment.
Speaker 13 (17:11):
Absolutely out of the question, dud, It's okay, my daughters
are off limits.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Agent Johnson.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Really not how this works, Judge.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
All right, Dad, what do you need to know?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I have here?
Speaker 10 (17:21):
You went to work for the Naval Medical Research Institute
after college, that's right, but you've since left.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Okay, I see where this is going.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
What does this have to do with my nomination?
Speaker 10 (17:31):
You and three female colleagues have filed the class action suit.
Speaker 17 (17:34):
Yes, we have.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Again, this has nothing to do with how I would
rule from the bench.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
Judge, I'll due respect. You don't see how this is relevant.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I certainly do not take my word for it, Judge,
it is.
Speaker 19 (17:48):
If I can just say something, my daughter being a
party in a lawsuit has no bearing.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's who she's suing, Judge.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Who she's suing is im material.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
She's suing the United States Navy.
Speaker 18 (17:59):
It's about sexual discrimination. They treated us differently, They treated
us terribly.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
You've also joined anti war protests, sometimes violent ones, on
several occasions.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Miss Blackman, Yeah, who has it?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Okay, we're done here.
Speaker 10 (18:12):
Miss Your father's being considered for a position that would
make him one of the most powerful people in government
with a lifetime tenure. If I didn't ask about your
apparent distaste for our country, I wouldn't be doing my job.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
My distaste for our country.
Speaker 13 (18:26):
Out of my house, Agent Johnson, now judge out, Well,
that actually went better than I thought it would.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You can do this there. Come on, deep breath, deep breath, life,
isn't everything? Get out of the car.
Speaker 14 (18:57):
Come on, nothing from your friend at the Dallas Morning
News be I mean, how can they not want to
report about doctors being persecuted like this?
Speaker 21 (19:19):
I stopped ask him when he said he'd need to
write about our referral network. I don't particularly want to
go to jail.
Speaker 17 (19:25):
Deb Well, something's got to give.
Speaker 21 (19:27):
Well, that's the whole point of filing suit. But no
Texas court will agree to hear.
Speaker 17 (19:32):
Us, which is why we ought to go federal.
Speaker 21 (19:35):
How can that to pay for that deb We're sitting
in your damn driveway. Even if the carrot cake, If
this bake sale is any good, we'd had three customers
all day.
Speaker 17 (19:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (19:45):
More bake sales, garage sales, whatever it takes. My sister
works at County and last night, she admitted a woman
who nearly killed herself trying to use chopsticks. Women are
drinking castor oil? Do you hear what I'm saying? I
do not have time to wait?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Hello?
Speaker 17 (20:02):
Am I interrupting prom queen.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's Sarah? Actually Sarah Weddington.
Speaker 17 (20:07):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yesterday at the office? I overheard you're having a big sale.
You have a sweet tooth, sweetie, take your pick.
Speaker 21 (20:15):
We could use the money.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And you're trying to file a federal lawsuit.
Speaker 17 (20:19):
This is a closed meeting. Actually, be nice.
Speaker 21 (20:23):
Deb Sarah's not a cop. She works ten feet from you.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
A lawsuit over the Texas abortion laws. Right.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
I sort of figured the cop who came into the
office yesterday chasing that doctor.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It was about a referral.
Speaker 21 (20:35):
Service, right, Pregnant women call, We let them know where
they can find a doctor.
Speaker 17 (20:41):
Who will help me.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You don't know who.
Speaker 17 (20:43):
Princess will go squealing.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
To help them and their pregnancy.
Speaker 17 (20:48):
No, help them get their nail polish removed? Is this
chick for real?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Are you in the movement?
Speaker 17 (20:53):
Sarah? Look at her bee.
Speaker 14 (20:55):
A ten pound cat would disappear in that hairdoo. She's
obviously not do.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
You quiet, deb Sarah, She's right, I'm not in the movement.
Speaker 14 (21:06):
No kidding, and she obviously doesn't have any experience with abortion, right.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
Look, I don't think that's who you should be looking
for or what you need. And we may be able
to help each other.
Speaker 17 (21:18):
Yeah, I don't think so help each other.
Speaker 9 (21:20):
How, Sarah, Well, I'm not really a typist.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
Ooh, let me guess avon, lady, No, president of the PTA,
I'm a lawyer.
Speaker 21 (21:29):
Really?
Speaker 17 (21:29):
Oh please? You went to law school.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Graduating near the top of my class.
Speaker 17 (21:35):
Mm hmm. You ever worked on a case?
Speaker 9 (21:37):
Just a couple of wills and an adoption from my uncle.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You've been to court? Then court? Oh? No, god?
Speaker 14 (21:45):
No, Okay, Look, beauty, queen, you seem sweet, and that's
a very pretty pastel dress you have on. But we
don't need some twenty nine year old coming in here
and telling.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Us twenty five actually, wow, there.
Speaker 17 (21:58):
You go, now, if you'll expa wait.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
A second, you're talking about challenging a two hundred year
old law on the grounds of women's rights in a
state where it's still technically illegal for a girl to
adjust her stockings in public. It's not long since I
played high school basketball, and we weren't allowed to take
more than two dribbles before passing off for fear that
the exertion would damage our reproductive capacities.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
What you're trying to do is impossible.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
And I promise you your opposition isn't sitting around a bake
sale right now. Your opposition is the sovereign state of Texas,
presumably District Attorney Henry Wade, who's been on the job
thirty five years and send as many men to death row.
Speaker 21 (22:36):
So you think it's hopeless, Sarah.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
I know it's hopeless, Bee, so do you. But that
doesn't matter it does it. A lawsuit will make some noise,
and noise is what's required right now. Noise is what
wakes people up.
Speaker 17 (22:49):
Well said.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Now, I'm not in the movement. I don't know a
ton about women's live That's not my passion. You know
what My passion is the law. Ever since I was
a little girl, there's nothing else I wanted to do.
It sounds like you all have no money to hire
a lawyer, and even if you did, no respectable attorney
would take you on. I'm not used to a certain
myself like this, So forgive me if I'm doing it wrong.
(23:12):
But I came here today to say I think maybe
we're a match.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
What's in it for you, Sarah? We can't pay you.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
I interviewed at every firm in Texas that would meet
with me after my graduation. It was always too delicate,
too pretty, too bad. I just need a shot, I
need a case.
Speaker 14 (23:32):
Flowery speech is aside. We need a real lawyer. We
don't want to be laughed at.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
You're probably right, dev A federal lawsuit is huge. You
need a law firm's resources, and we've tried.
Speaker 21 (23:45):
A dozen firms have turned us down.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
I know the feeling, and it's a shame because a
federal lawsuit is incredibly complex and time intensive. Putting it
in my hands would be like asking some guy you
found swinging a bat in your driveway.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
If you wanted to play for the Texas Rangers.
Speaker 17 (23:58):
Well, thank you for understanding by now.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
But the thing is, we're standing in your driveway and
I don't see anyone else swinging it back.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
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by Aaron Tracy, directed by Rachel Winter, starring Maya Hawk,
William H. Macy, and Abigail Breslan also featuring Laura Bonanti
as b Andrea Savage as deb, William Fickner as Warren,
Felicity Huffman as Dottie, Garrett Hedlund as Ron, Sophia Macy
(24:43):
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the Reporter. Executive produced by Eva Longoria, Ben Spector, Rachel Winter,
and Aaron Tracy, as well as Katrina Norvell and Anna
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Director of Audio Chris Kelly. Original score by Hamilton Leitthhauser
and Anna Stump, Edited and sound designed by Paul Tatoskini.
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