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April 2, 2024 25 mins

In part two of my conversation with Billy Gene, we continue to unpack the mind-boggling implications of AI and how it could reshape our world in ways that are both exhilarating and terrifying. From apps that can mimic your favorite writers and musicians with uncanny accuracy to the possibility of preserving the essence of our loved ones long after they're gone, the scenarios we explore are nothing short of jaw-dropping.

Billy Gene shares some incredible tools that could change the game for anyone looking to boost their creativity, streamline their work, or even whip up a gourmet meal using only the contents of their fridge. But the real showstopper is when we contemplate a future where the boundaries between the digital and physical realms become increasingly blurred.

It's not all existential dread, though – we also touch on the potential upsides of this AI-powered future, like a world where everyone's basic needs are taken care of, freeing us to pursue our true passions and forge deeper human connections.

So if you're ready to have your mind blown and your assumptions challenged, join me and Billy Gene for the second half of this thought-provoking discussion. I guarantee you'll come away with a whole new perspective on the future that awaits us – and maybe even a few tips and tricks to help you navigate this brave new world.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you guys have been following Apple's journey coming to
the virtual reality space, They're late, but they're here now
and now they created and Facebook is doing it too.
They actually you should YouTube this and go look. Go
type in new meta avatars or Apple's new virtual personas,
and basically they take a picture of your face and

then they it looks like you are there in virtual reality.
So when you call people, there's a virtual reality version
of yourself that's out there. So imagine your friend's husband
that passed away. You have the virtual reality thing and
by the way, it looks fucking exactly like him. You
upload all of the memories from the last twenty years
to that avatar. The voice sounds identical because we can

replicate the voice. Are you not having a conversation with
your dead husband?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
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Speaker 1 (01:17):
Look, yil, all I'm saying is I do think you
brought up a good point. The best way to combat
or to be on top of the wave and be
the percentage that makes a lot of money when all
this happens, so that you can build your extra shelters
and panic rooms, et cetera. Is you have to learn.
I think the worst thing that anybody could do, and
I genuinely be in this part, the worst thing that
anyone watching this can do, myself concluded, is to not

learn this stuff. That is the danger. You cannot be
ignorant to this. It's just wild to me.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm an I'm an action I'm an action orientated person,
and I want people to listen to this and take
our fun and jokes, and I want them to add
seriousness to it. Yeah, and I want to. I want
to come out of this with some theories and processes.
Let's give it three outcomes. Number one is yours, which is,

let's say everything is given to you, and what is
there to do? Well, aren't aren't most of us overwork? Overweight,
we don't get to share time and special moments with
our family. Well, well, then will most of us get
to take a lot of that back?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Because simple question with that, what percentage of the country
if they said, hey, you can stop working right now,
here's five grand a month. Get all your food, et cetera.
Food will be delivered, Da da da. You never have
to work again. But you can't make any more. You

can't like ball out. You know, you can't get rich.
What percentage do you think would take that?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I don't know. But what if they said at the
same time, you have to do one of these fifty things.
You have to help conserve our planet by doing this.
You have to help those who are not educated. You
have to help those who are sickly or old or need.
You have to help build, and you have to contribute.

And we're monitoring you like that. And so let's say
that's one. The second one is total anarchy, and pretty
much like it is a little bit today, every man
for themselves. What is the person's what are the people
looking at? What are their options? The number one the

number one job in the country for males is operating
heavy machinery and things like that. Those trucks will be automated,
all right, So anarchy, right, what happens in that in
that environment? Because I think that's the most dangerous environment. Remember,

the middle of any business is the most dangerous. You
can be high end. You can be low end, low
end access to the masses, high end luxury. The middle
gets compressed. If you have enough money, you'll go high end.
If you have no money, you'll go low in the
middle gets compressed. What happens to that middle scenario? What

do you do as a person right now preparing yourself
for there?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You have to learn and get additional skills or God
pray dance.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Will we ever be able to convince I have my
executive protection X Navy c amazing man. The man has
protecting me all my life. When I started to get
to the world where I was not in hip hop
and it was not I didn't need to protect my myself,
no jewelry, no nothing. I said to him, what are

you gonna do for the rest of your life? And
he said, I'm a next Navy seal, I know logistics,
and even though people want me to go on toward Damon,
I'm not trying to be on tour taking bullets for people.
You were my last client. Let me run your logistics
because he is a veteran of this great country, and
a lot of our veterans are not respected for the

skill set they had. He did, and I said, well,
what happened to rest of your friends? He goes a
big bodyguard is sitting outside cold clubs getting one hundred
dollars a night, two hundred dollars. Then they never invested
in the market. They didn't even put they didn't even
think about it because they thought for some reason, for
some reason, when you are like that kind of person,
living that life which skilled but trained and fighting and

barriers for the things like what happens to old boxers,
like they thought for some reason the lotto was gonna hit.
So what happens to those people with the right eating
is so on the wall.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
But this is the scary part. You've seen the movie
The Perge No.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
One. I'm not going.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Hey tonight, I promise you watch Purge one all the
way through the rest of them. It's it's the acted
out version of what we're talking about. You had to
see it. But I do wonder this. So let's say
your guy appreciate your service by the way he turns
into logistics and he's he's jamming. But you're right, there's

those Let's say he's the one out of ten, but
the nine out of ten that are the bouncers that
are now being like, AI's taking our job. Now they
got security guards that are robots where we don't need to. Yeah,
so now do they do you think their response is
you know what you made your money honestly, you went
into logistics good? Or do you start to be like, hey,

that wonder what over there is doing real good and
there's nine of you over here? Do you go, why
don't we just go take what he's got? Yeah, and
here's crazy. We kind of saw this in the pandemic matter.
You see this went out right here, broken rock through it.
Remember when the riots started happening, et cetera, they came through.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I'm gonna take this step further. Yea. I was with
jose Andres you just wanted to. I mean, I saw
him on and he does the world I've got organization.
Most amazing man in history. He goes in when a tornado,
hurricane happens or whatever, and he sets up these camps
for food and various other things before governments even coming.

One of the biggest humanitarians ever. I flew into Abaco.
I forgot the name of the hurricane and it hit
the Bahamas and everything. We're in Abaco. The people online
for food and I was like, wow, you know whatever,
and they were like, these are the wealthy people on
the island. I said, ooh, he why these are the

wealthy people on how They said, because when the water
came up into the gangster's homes, they just went up
into the hills with the gun and took that out
and they and they took.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Those houses from them.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
So it makes me triple down if anybody telling me
you're a prepper for the wrong reasons.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
You have to be prepared for where we're going. And
and by the way, I just want to stop for
one second with the prepper stuff. I believe that being
prepared for your family doesn't mean that you have to
have these massive amount of money. If you have an
over here, you're replacing, take that over Fridridge or put
it in the garage or someplace, and that becomes part
of your.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Prepping on a budget. The power of prepping broke.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah. Oh yeah, guess what. I hope nothing ever happens.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking, don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
You got that pissy as mattress and I know it stinks,
but that's gonna smell like roses if you're stick in
there for two weeks down the box to make sure
you put the pissy as mattress this facts.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's funny. I I but I do.
I do think if that situation never happens, it maybe
there's a little bit of civil unrest for a minute.
But I think at the end of the day, people
just go, Okay, let's just give everyone money so this
doesn't happen. Like it's in everyone's best interest to make
sure everybody is good.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
And that scenario number two, scenario number three is just
like they said, it's an old story. There was a
man who bought a tractor, spent all his money on
a tractor.

Speaker 1 (09:29):

Speaker 3 (09:31):
There was a guy plowing with his donkey, going, you
spent all your money on that?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
He kept plowing with his donkey, and then somebody said,
now there's.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Two jackasses.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Plowing with his donkey, going, you spend all your money
on that?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
He kept plowing with his donkey, and then somebody said, now.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
There's two jackasses. What happens if we survive as humans do?

Speaker 1 (10:20):

Speaker 2 (10:20):
And there is a million great people. You are one
of the brightest people. I know when you go you
know what, you know what? This mighty be made. Because
this person is scaring everybody with this. I'm going to
create the counter to stop that. I'm going to create
the counter to when you walk into a room the
forty cameras looking at you, you have a shield around
you to block those cameras right now and send them

a picture of your bare ass. What happens when we
are at that point? And I'm going to be going.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
So there is an upside yeah to this, say, I
think my first reaction was, well, the problem is to
create these solutions is no one's smart enough to do it.
Most people aren't. However, the cool thing about AI is
now everybody can be smart enough to do it. If
you give it eighteen months and I'll be able to
talk and say, build me a website in a ten

in a ten day follow up email sequence to a
chiropractor and it'll be done in three seconds. All of
us can create.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Everybody can do it now, So it's going to market it.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well, there you go. I mean, yes, that's right, that's right.
But so you're right, I think because of everybody as
a creator now and I will create that. You're right,
there will actually be some dope things that I that
none of us are thinking of. But everyone's a designer.
Everyone can be uh you know what's funny is everybody
right now if you've ever wanted to make a movie

you mentioned an Emmy earlier, make a documentary, a television show,
give it three years. Everybody will be able to do
it with their voice.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, they will give my people some takeaways besides go
get your gun or don't work. Give them some actual
takeaways that they can depend When you keep saying you
better learn it, you better learn it very vague, very general.
What is some takeaways right now? Because I got to
tell you some ways that I use proficiency with Ai.
I'm dyslexic and I have something called a I think

it's called uh Ai audio pen. What this does is
pretty simple. I speak for one minute. It types out
a really great corrected email and or whatever it is,
and you know, with all the prepe punctuations, and it
actually six months ago it was talking to the King's English.
You know. Every time I wrote it, my friends were

like you thou you just said that shall not edition.
Yeah at Golden Corral anymore, man, you I but I
use that uh, hey, Jen is great. What's the AI assistant?
Uh A.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
For sales?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, for sales.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
There's a really good like specific for assistant if you
use what'sapp the meta AI assistant and WhatsApp is really
good too. Okay, like it just doesn'k.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
So basic Moms and dads right now, who will been listen?
Dad has been a plumber for twenty years. Mom is
being a real estate agent. Their kids are running around
AI and all this, but their kids may not be
using it as professions they should. What should everyday person? You?
You're a great marketer man?

Speaker 1 (13:20):

Speaker 2 (13:20):
What's what? What's something they should look at? A well?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I think I think a big part of getting whatever
you want in life is how you communicate it right.
That's a challenge for people because most people aren't comfortable
with the way they're write. Most people aren't comfortable speaking
out loud or giving a speech. There's this really dope
app that everyone should know about and so it's kind
of dangerous, but it's cool. So it's called you. You

have to be using chat GPT four and then it's
a plugin for it. So Chat GPT four is like
twenty bucks a month. You can go to go there,
buy it whatever. But there's this plug in called voice
Slash Style Slash Tone snippet. What you to do is
you can copy and paste in there. I don't know,

a chapter from fifty Shades of Great? Uh, what's the
Harry Potter? You can submit it in there and it
will give you a prompt to be able to write
exactly like that. So it's essentially if you ever wanted
to write a book in the style of JR. Token
or whatever her name is, you can literally write a

book just like Harry Potter. If You've ever wanted to
The funniest move I've ever seen is don't be a
minister of South Suis Society while drinking your juice in
the hood.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Do we have a problem, hm?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Now, if I wanted to write a chapter or a
sequel to that, I can copy and paste that whole
script of the snippet and say and submit it, and
it will give me the style for it, and then
all of a sudden I can write exactly like them.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Then you can read up an audio and the audio
will write it.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Are you saying, oh, that's interesting, it's got audio mission?
Yet I just take the words it's gonna give me
a prompt and then I can use that to write
whatever I want.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's happening in movies too. They said there were a
year away from it. They say that you can. You
can film twenty hours however you want to film it.
You put in the system and listen, what are the
same movies. Last Samurai guy goes in, he becomes part
of the tribe and moves to the part of the
tribe as he being the savior. Yeah, it happens in

Avatar's Last and the Mohican. It happened in all of these, right,
But they know how these have won the aust nomination,
whatever the case is, because they know that here's the climax.

Speaker 3 (15:38):

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You can put in twenty hours of these videos that
you may make, and they will now score it, make
it through the algorithm, and they will add everything to
it to make that walk through the grocery store the
new Lord of the Rings crazy. So I'm gonna have
you repeat it one last time because you went over
that so quick. I don't have time to write it down.

I'm actually working right now. I need my assistant to
help me. Just so every one of you don't feel
like you feel stupid. If you don't know Chat GPT
four plug in slash slash slash. Yeah, Billy's a nerd.
H yeah yeah, say it again.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay. So you go to chat GPT and there's two
versions of it, three point five and four. You need
to use four. That's the paid one, so twenty bucks
a month. Then there's a plug in, which is like
an app on your phone. You know, you can download
apps on your phone. It's very similar, and you just
type in voice slash style slash, tone snipping and that's

an app. Yep, yep, that's an app. So then once
you do that, you just copy and paste your favorite
writing style music war. It could do it for writing
songs too, by the way, So let's say you want
to make a hit and like, man, I want to
you know, it's oh fucking that's crazy. You want to
rap like jay Z because he's the best ever. You
can literally take his song, your favorite verse and then

say write me or rap about yeah yeah ice cream
and like jay Z, and I promise you it will
be exactly like jay Z, maybe even better. There is
no longer. And this is scarier for people because, especially
if you're really religious, you know, you really identify with
the spirit of somebody. And if you talk to people

who are anti AI, they talk about how will never
replace the humanity in us?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
It will?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
It will. And like in the snippet thing that can
you guys, everyone should go use and just play with
it so you can learn it. Like it won't give
you chills at how grossly accurate it is. You can
literally sing and write a song like anybody in the
world and it will sound like them.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well, I want people to take away because you know,
we win in circles about this thing, and that's a
great healthy debate to discuss where these potentials are. And
you know what, there's probably ten other scenarios that we
won't even know coming. But if everybody listening right now,
you know it's only going to be two percent because
they're gonna get home. The kid's gonna ball them. Yeah,

you can do just what you did right there for
my e I.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
And yeah, yeah, yeah whatever that.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
If they can do one of those and just try
it for a week and start seeing what it does
for their life, they may say, you know, it kind
of leaves down a rabbit hole. Wow, Can I do
that for cooking? Can I do it for my health?
Can I do medicine.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
That is so true, and I understand you guys understand
when we too. We have one hundred and eighty thousand
students in seventy five countries. The hardest thing is getting
started doing one. But you're right, Once you do use it,
it's a it's a rabbit hole, and you keep going,
keep going. Once you do use it, it's a it's

a rabbit hole, and you keep going. Something else that's
interesting is now with the chat GPT four you can
download the app. Something fun to play with is just
taking pictures and letting it give recommendations. So something fun
for you to do if you're you don't feel like
going shopping, you don't want to spend the money to
do instacart, take a picture of your refrigerator and then

simply submit it to chat GPT four and say, based
on what's in my refrigerator, what should I cook tonight?
And it will tell you and then say, give me
step by step directions on exactly how to do that,
and it will do it. Where it's going is you
will be able to say, use your voice and say,
can you send me all the ingredients to make whatever?
In my house? Everything everyone's life will be very voice command.
Everything that you do will be voice commands. You'll tell

your car take me here, it'll take you. You'll voice
note your car. You can do this right now inside
of my car, and you can say, Alexa, send this
to my house for this. Your whole life will be
a voice now.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I had a pleasure going to the vanity pierpotl other
night and I saw the guy who plays store.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Where's my invet? It's a good looking man.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
What was the name was?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
He's the Hemsworth Hensworth.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And I went over to them and said, hey, Chris Man,
love your body hacking documentary stuff on Netflix. And I
know we don't look like twinsies now because we don't
have the same outfit on Lily twins. E's right. And
if I take a picture of him and say how
to get his body? Yes, we'll chat GPT say jump

off the roof and come back. Record will be able
to say will it? Will it? Will it? Google all
the hell things he does and say that's how to
that's how to look like? You know what I do like?
And I'm gonna do this with closing. First of all,
thank you for sharing this time with me. And I

love going down the rabbit hole. Man. This is so
fantastic about learning, and you gave us a lot to
think about. I do know a place at a I
did really well for a friend of mine. She lost
her husband to cancer. He died at early fifty something
years old and left uh two kids, a seven and
a nine year old and chat GPT. As as as

most people will say, what do you say to that widow?
I'm sorry he's looking down upon us, chat GBT, they
were able to put in what do I say to
a widow who's just lost this end? Wow? It pulled
very and of course, you know, prompts are very important

because whether I want to console her, whether I want
to let her know I'm here, whether I don't want
to know I'm here in the future, whether I want
to know the great experience I've had, whatever the cases.
It gave her five to six different things that she
would have never been able to say or come up with,
and it just brought them closer as they do that.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, this is a good one to leave everyone. This
is I don't want to freak you out, but this
is very real and modern day. So you guys, everyone
think about this all of us have been saving videos
and pictures of our entire life via Facebook for the
last now fifteen twenty years, however long it's been, and

so it has all of our experiences in a cloud,
essentially all of our memories. So rest in peace to
your friend who lost her husband. But if she has
twenty years of pictures and videos, another twenty years of
tweets and statuses, another twenty years of emails, text messages, conversations,

and then she uploaded all of that into a app
that she can create on chat GPT and essentially can
understand his persona communicate the same way. Now, wait, it
gets better. If you guys have been following Apple's journey
coming to the virtual reality space, They're late, but they're
here now and now they created and Facebook is doing it.

They actually should YouTube this and go look. Go type
in new meta avatars or Apple's new virtual personas, and
basically they take a picture of your face and then
they it looks like you are there in virtual reality.
So when you call people, there's a virtual reality version

of yourself that's out there. So imagine your friend's husband
that passed away. You have the virtual reality thing. And
by the way, it looks fucking exactly like him. You
upload all of the memories from the last twenty years
to that avatar. The voice sounds identical because we can
replicate the voice. Are you not having a conversation with

your dead husband?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I'm I didn't want to make this two episode. So
many people are gonna ask about this. I even know one.
I got one better. You know, of God, I serve
this purpose. I'm fifteen years older than my wife, and
I will hopefully go to heaven or where I'm going
to end up whatever we call it.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
But they call it hell.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, that's true. Are you saying I can be jorelle
Yah Yeah, to Superman, to my little girl. So when
my little girl is forty years old, she can go
in a room and say, and of course I'm a
public person, but we all technically a public people. I
can say, Dad, when you were my age, what did

you face when it came to this? And I can say, honey,
I know Kevin o'liary's still around. I know he's giving
you bad advice. His uncle, Kevin o'liary, he's a vampire.
But this is what I would do my little girl.
And I think us as being we will be there
for the ones that maybe we can't be there for.

I think, I think let's find that happy place and
thank you man. This is this, you see what this
is Why it's so fun? Man? It is all right.
You guys gotta follow Billy Jean's marketing and he's following you.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, all right, man, appreciate you here. Hey, no one has.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
To die in.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
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