Episode #20: Trey Lewis

You may know him from a hit song about a girl in Dallas, but country music fans haven’t seen anything yet. This next artist dives in deep and shares his stories, from a crazy childhood, to addition, recovery and how music helped save his life. With a new album about to drop that will be sure to make waves, please welcome River House recording artist.. Trey Lewis. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's the most embarrassing thing you've ever done in public? Oh? Shit,
my pants for sure? Yeah, no, lot, lot Where was that?
I mean, which time? You know? Welcome to the podcast guys.

(00:23):
For the new folks joining us, it's your host, Chris Rudeger.
Thanks for tuning in, Thanks for following us either on
six Months five House or specifically on the podcast. Again,
I want to thank our friends at iHeart Q six
and Matt mcelwaine for taking care of us. And this
next episode is really good because I've been trying to
do this for a while. He also has a podcast,
and we've been trying to coordinate our schedules to make

(00:43):
it work, but this is finally when we get him
on the podcast. He is a recording artist himself. He
has had quite the childhood and there's a reason why
he got sober and started recording music and how that
has taken a completely changed his life for the better.
He also had a pretty hilarious song. I don't know
if you guys are familiar with the song, maybe about

(01:04):
a girl in Dallas. If that rings a bell, we're
gonna get into it. And I'm super excited because he
has a new album coming out and we're going to
talk all about that, about the successful TikTok song, and
really just about his life. So here's a chance to
chat together. Please welcome Trey Lewis. Yeah, it feels good
to be here. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I feel like, you know, mac Wins, I'm like, what
are you doing today? He's like, oh, I'm filming pods
with Chris today, And I was like, dang, what's he
gonna have me on there?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
You know, kind of well you have a podcast yourself,
and Matt's also on the crew, and I feel like,
you know, it's interesting because we're both kind of trying
to date him, you know, so like occasionally you get
him like Monday, Wednesday's Fridays and then I get the
Tuesday there.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, when you're not when when he's not doing stuff
for you, he's doing stuff for me, right.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
But I've started to cheat a little bit up and
taking him on a few more days, and I just
want to just get the record straight, like, yeah, I
respect your relationship with me.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, man, I mean I want him to
not have to be focused on me all the time,
you know, to have a life outside of the Tray
Lewis world. I know, it can be a lot sometimes
between you know, he used to play drums for me
and now he's our stage manager, assistant tour manager now,
you know, so he has a lot of responsibilities. He's

(02:15):
the guy that fixes everything. Like if the trailer, you know,
we're getting ready to go on the road, he takes
the band to get the old change, gets spare tires
for the trailer, gets our trailers kind of shitty. So
it just like we always have to change the tires
out when.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
We're on the road. How often you changing the tires?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Uh, that would be a matt question, but I think, uh,
per run it's at least once or twice, you know,
just depends.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, and just throwing it out there. You guys have
never thought to like, you know, get a different trailer.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, we just bought this one, so it's like, you know,
squeeze our money out of it.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I guess, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
And he's like the other day I showed up, He's like, man,
I built these shelves we can like put inside the trailer.
We can like put the guitars up here, you know,
and we can hang this stuff here. It's a pretty
good impression, right.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's very good.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, it's like, I thank you to block good for
taking the stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I've been with him all day. So it's
like hitting even harder because it's like it's like, wait,
is this mat here now? Yeah? So anyway, I'm not
stealing your guy. I know, you guys have a very
you know, you have a romance.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, we're like brothers. I mean we've been in fist
fights through the years, you know.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean how he slept, you know, in your bed
in your apartment.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah that's right, yeah, on the floor that was actually
Alex's bed, but whatever, who cares. Kind of a community, yeah, man,
we're brothers. I mean we've been playing to you know,
we've been either playing music together or you know, he's
been in the camp for the longest, you know, going
on almost ten years. So he's like he's he's my family.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah you know, how so how long have you been
doing this thing?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So I got sober in two thousand and seven, and
then I went to Halfway House. I wish we can
get into all that. And I lived at the Halfway
House for six months. And when I went to the
Halfway House, they were like, you got to go to
these meetings and you got to get a sponsor, and
you gotta work these steps, you gotta do all this stuff.
So I was like I had this big like realization

(04:18):
when I was in rehab of like I got this
letter from my mom and before like when I was
messed up on drugs and alcohol and stuff, it was
like I was in and out of jail all the time.
It seemed like every time I got drunk or got high,
it was like I ended up in jail or the
saying asylum or like something crazy. So I remember I

(04:41):
was telling the story earlier. I went to lunch with
my producer, Jacob Rice. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, man,
I mean basically at the end, I remember I was
in jail in Tuscaloosa County Jail. This is my last
time in jail. And I got out of jail finally
nobody would come bail me out. I'll never forget, Like,

(05:02):
you know, when you're in jail, you get a phone call,
and I got that. That was my turn to, you know,
go to the phone and call. And I was like
five feet away from the phone from like here to
this white thing over the white thing right there, and
I just remember the feeling in the pit of my stomach,
the frustration, despair, and like, oh my god, I have
nobody I can call. I screwed over everybody that's closest

(05:25):
to me, and I just wanted to call like one person,
you know in my life that could tell me, hey, man,
like you're a good person, like you'll pull through this,
like something like that, and there was just no one
to call. So I remember when I finally did get
out of jail. I remember, you have some friends biled

(05:46):
me out of jail that I knew, and I was like, guys,
I'm done with this stuff. I can't do this anymore.
Like and I really meant that. All the other times
where I like went to jail or ended up in
the psych ward or like whatever, it was like, I
want to quit doing this, you know, to get these
people off my back. And then I would eventually get

(06:07):
back to getting hired drunk because I loved the feeling
of escaping.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I was gonna say, how did you, like, why did
how did it happen? Like how did it? How did
its start? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
So how it started was when I was thirteen, my
mom checked me and my sister out of school, sat
us down on the couch bought us happy meals and said, uh,
me and your dad, which was my stepdad, or uh
splitting up tomorrow, we're going to separate and then which
that led into a divorce. And I feel like thirteen

(06:41):
is like the age where you need like your parents
like in your shit to say, you know, it's I
don't know if you need to get beat with sticks
every day, but you need to get some whippings or something,
you know, like you need to get some video games
taken away from you like that. So that kind of happened.
So the male aspect of having a dad around like

(07:04):
wasn't there. And I'm not blaming my mother, because my
mother did the best you could, you know, raising me.
But there was a little bit of like isolation, I guess, yeah.
And I mean before I knew it, I kind of
like fell into the wrong crowd. I moved from this
nice neighborhood that I was living in, tons of kids,
kind of over to the city side of where I'm from,

(07:26):
which is best Davia Hills. It's it's a nice part
of town. You know, it's it's the city. But I
went from like living in this big neighborhood to be
it'd be like living in Franklin but then moving to
like somewhere over here, you know what I mean, like
downtown kind of area in a smaller scale, Yeah, but different.
And I just remember every day just like riding on

(07:46):
my bike and just like finding like a hill to
cry on, and I would just like cry. I just
felt like, I don't know, it felt like I didn't
fit in, like I didn't belong or something.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
And because I assume all your over app yeah, I
were at the old neighborhood. I had zero friends, like
a new person trying to make friends. Your parents just
got divorced. Yeah, Like I was fat, you know. I
was just like a kid.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
And uh, it's crazy because I was in Hollywood video.
I lived like down this alley and there was a
guthries Chicken, which is like Zaxby's or something like that.
In front of like there was an alley. There was
a fence and there was a Guthrie's Chicken a Hollywood video,
which is like Blockbuster, you know, And I was in

(08:32):
Holly Hollywood video.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Just does your town only have like off brand stuff?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
No? No, no, no no no. Uh there was like
a hair salon and which comes into play later. We
used to steal cigarettes from the hair salon. But I'm
in Hollywood video one night and I see my best
friend from my old neighborhood. His name is Frankie. Still
best friends to this day. I've known since we were
since I was six. He was like, dude, what are

(08:58):
you doing? And I was like, man, I live over
here now. He's like, no way, I just moved over
here too, And like I feel like found like my friend,
you know, and me and him started hanging out. Well
that was like Tony Hawk was like huge back then.
But we were also like I played football, so I
was also into like Abercrombie and Fitch and stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Every as every kid. But I like skateboarded too, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Like I feel like in my isolation, I like began
like this, Like I guess chameleon is the thing where
like I could be.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Able to know you had a Yeah I had boarder
by day or football whatever. Yeah, yeah you could.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Turn and uh somehow me and Frankie, like when we
lived in my old neighborhood, we used to like smoke
sticks and like destroy treehouses and like go down to
the creek and just be kids. But like we lived
by like all these gas stations and stuff now, so
we would do like hey misters and get people to
buy us a pack of new Ports.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
And we started smoking cigarettes. And I had an older
sister and I knew she partied, but like I thought
she was Like I thought like weed was like the
worst thing anybody could do back then, you know, and
there's so sheltered from There were so many nights where, like,
I know she had some struggles with it. There's one
night I woke up and the police were like in

(10:13):
my house and her and my mom had like gotten
into it. So like right then and there, I made
the decision that, like, I'm never gonna smoke weed. Look
what that does to families, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
But as I like progressed in that world and was
like smoking SIGs and like just being a kid, I
was like, well, my parents drink every weekend, Like let's
let's get some beer, and like, let's drink. And it
was me, this guy named Omar and this other kid
and we got two cases of beer. And the first
time I ever got drunk, I was thirteen. That's so early, yeah,

(10:47):
and it was bad.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Were they also thirteen? Were they older kids?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Like? Uh?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Now?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
They were my age. They were my age, but they
were like.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
The bad kids. And how did you guys get the beer?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
We had this like guy that was like an old
guy in the neighborhood and he went to like this
pick and there was this place called pick a Pack.
I was onlong the road and they sold to like
underage kids that almost looked twenty one. But we got
a case of Cooper's Light and Cooper's Original.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
You go. I mean, selling to underage is one thing,
but sell them to a thirteen year old kid, Like
it's not like I drank like.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Nine beers, and like the other guy like drank like
a pretty good amount. And then the one guy that
was like labeled kind of like the worst kid in school,
he only drank four beers. And we got out like
the school directory and like started calling people. And then
and then the guy that only drank four beers got
sick and like threw up in the floor and like

(11:44):
my arm like touched his throw up and then like
once I'm like one of these people, like if you gag,
I'll start gagging. Yeah, And I just started throwing up
and like, dude, I threw up like in between the
couch cushions. One of us is one of us, like
broke the toilet and like we threw up on the
they had to buy like all new furniture.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
It was like a terrible thing. I was gonna say
that when you're thirteen and you're putting back nine years,
I mean nine years in general, but particularly.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Thirteen, you have got to be you put back nine
years right now, You're gonna be sal StuffYeah.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, this podcast would probably have to end unfortunately exactly so.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
But anyways, I'll get sober soon. But yeah, basically that
night was the most important night of my life and
my drinking career, because you know, this slow change started
to happen. But that was like the night where I
realized that getting drunk was the coolest thing that I'd
ever done, Like my friend my like I was kind
of like feeling like I was tippyetting into the thing.

(12:40):
But after that, like I didn't care about football anymore.
I quit football not long after that. I didn't care
about my prepe friends. I just wanted to just I
remember like that night, I like called my my stepdad
that wasn't my stepdad anymore. He came and picked me up.
I didn't get in any trouble. I was say, oh,
I'm sorry, I'll never do that again, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Type of thing.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
But I knew in the back of my mind that
I wanted to do that shit every chance I could,
you know, and that's what I did. I mean, and
then you know, things just progressed from there. I said
that I would never smoke weed. I ended up smoking weed,
you know, and then I and then you know, things progressed.
I my mom got married my eighth my like the

(13:21):
tail end of eighth grade summer, and then I was
going into high school, and my first week of high school,
my mom was on her honeymoon, so it was just
me and my sister. My sister was two years older
than me, and she was, you know, into partying. I
remember like waking up and smoking bowls of weed in
my bed and then just going to school with my
sister like I was like a grown man, you know.
I was like, this is awesome. And then ninth grade,

(13:42):
I started getting a lot of trouble, like I would
get like I would get suspended, but man, I just
didn't care. Like I don't know what it was, but
it was like they'd be like, well, you got detention.
I'm like, well, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
You know, it was it was it the craving of
that feeling and just the sort of slow set addiction.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I think there was a lot of like unaddressed emotions
looking back on it now, but then it.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Was just like I was ready. It's just like, yeah,
you know, I was. I was just racing. Hell, you know,
so when so why did you you said? Then? You know,
obviously there's gonna be a moment for when you said
I'm not clean up some ship.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, do you want me to get into getting clean
or do you want to hear the story of how
I kind of tumbled and stumbled? Well I want to
hear because I dropped out of high school twice, so
that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I want to hear that.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
So yeah, So ninth grade I started getting a lot
of trouble and then they try to give me not
in school suspension alternative school. And I was like, mom,
there's no I can do in school suspension. But there's
like no way I'm going to be able to do
alternative school. She was like, well, why don't we try
this like homeschooling thing, and like, you know, maybe we

(14:54):
can do this for a couple of years and you
can get your GUD. Because my sister finally kind of
like got it together and ended up like just getting
her GD and then starting schools, starting school at Auburn
at Southern Union, and you know, went on and she's
doing great now married as a child. So that was
kind of like I was thinking I would follow kind

(15:14):
of like the route of that. So, I mean I
basically did this homeschool, but my mom was a nurse
and she worked, you know, three twelves. So I would
just like fill out the answers in the back call.
And then by then i'd like start selling drugs and
I would just like call over my older friends and
we'd have we' den parties and you know, just go
to town.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Were you selling just for like quick cash?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I was selling it. I mean it was fun to me.
It was you know, I was just like show up
to the party with all the cool kids, you know,
and just like I was their guy. You know.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
It was like you think it was like a tension thing,
like getting that validation of.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, it was a validation like that.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Bird yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
But uh so I was like I was doing that
and then so I dropped out, did the homeschooling thing
that didn't work out, went through ninth grade summer, and
then I started, like I mean, and like I said,
man like, from the first time I ever got drunk
to the rest of it was just like a ski jump,
you know, jumped off in it. And I was one

(16:19):
of these. I wasn't like a gradual. I was just
all in. And so ninth grade summer I spent doing
a lot of acid, mushrooms, hallucigens. And then I went
back to school in tenth grade and I did I
did decent. I made c's and d's enough to pass,
you know. That was good for me. I struggled with
school my entire life. I just wasn't interested. And I

(16:42):
really struggled with staying focused. I never really finished anything always.
I was always kind of like a quitter or like scapegoat.
I was like break a pencil. They'd be like, okay,
it's all right, you can have a modified test, you know.
So I feel like I learned how to manipulate things.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
So you learned how to play the game to get by,
you didn't necessarily actually study early on.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
So I go back to school in tenth grade and
then eleventh grade starts and I start I'm like really
deep off in and I'm doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
I'm getting screwed up at school. Long story short, I
had I have a drug deal go bad in my
house and somebody gets beat up, like really bad.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Like I took him to the emergency room.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
He had to get staples in his head and all
this stuff. It was crazy. And by then I was
kind of like found out by the school. They were like,
you did this, and you did this, and so by
that time I knew how to run. I drop out
of high school for good. This time, I've been to
get I'm missing a lot here, but I'm trying to
try to get over here. Uh I do a I

(17:49):
do a bunch of crazy stuff. I steal a check
from my dad and uh I go and cash it
and he presses charges on me. Best thing that every
one of the best things that could have ever happened
to me. It probably probably one of the reasons I'm
still alive today. But it didn't stop me. So I
so I get arrested for that, and while I'm on

(18:12):
probation for that, I'm like trying to sober up. I'm
going to this like outpatient thing for adolescence. During that time,
I find out that, like I'm probably I don't remember
what happened, but something sparked me to where I was
just like, all right, we'll screw it. I was looking
for a reason to get messed up again, you know,
and I was like, all right, we'll screw it. And

(18:33):
I went and got drunk one night and I got
a DUI. So I'm seventeen.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
So you went from arrested from the check to d UI. Yeah,
so I'm seventeen.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I've got a felony theft charge and a feel any
d UI shit man, Yeah, I mean DUI is a felony.
But so I'm like still getting messed up. And I
started doing a lot of cocaine during this time, and
I got really messed up one night and I called
my dad and I said, Dad, I gotta do something different,

(19:03):
like I'm well, I'm going to go to military school
like whatever. So I find that he finds this military
school in Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I go there.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I make it through all. They they put us out
in the woods for like two weeks. We had to
like live in the woods and like do this big
long hike. Yeah, it's intense, and they shave your head,
so you know you're no longer Tea Barrid. You're just
a fat kid with your head shaved, which is funny
now because I'm bald. But I'm at this military school

(19:32):
and then I decide when I get into the actual
schoolwork that it's like too hard. You know that I
don't want to do it anymore. So I'm gonna go home.
And if you don't let me go home, I'm just
gonna walk home. So I started walking. Send me home
on a bus. I come home for the weekend. I
got drunk on the bus ride home with some guys
that I just met on the bus, like some older guys.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
My mom picks me up from the bus station. Drunk
as hell. I go home.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I drink natural light that whole weekend. And there's a
part in the Big Book that we read in the
twelve step programs, and it says the fierce determination to
win came back and when I drank, that's what I
got from alcohol. And I remember drinking that weekend and
being like, you know what, if they would just give
me a second chance, I could go back and do it.
So I get on the phone. I call the guy
that runs the school and I'm like, man, just please

(20:18):
just give me another chance. I'll come back and do it.
I go back to military school all my court stuff.
My dad goes before the judge and he's like, my
son's in military school.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
He's really trying to like straighten out his life. He's
done good.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
They throw all my court stuff out. Two days later,
I get kicked out of military school.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
How'd you get kicked out? I just like was cussing
and just I was too bad for that place. I
was too far gone for that. So the chargers get
your there. Weren't going to scare me straight, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Dam So I'm coming home with a clean record. I
have a fresh start. My mom's like, you can't live here,
but we'll like help you get this apartment. They help
me get this apartment. I get a job at Hearty's.
I'm like walking to go flip Burgers every day. I'm
getting my parents off my back doing all this stuff.
They buy me a car. I quit my job because
that's what it was always about. It was like, how

(21:08):
can I get these people off my back?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
To where?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
And it's really messed up when you think about it.
It's like I was just gaining their trust just to
do the same stupid shit over and over again.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I mean it's manipulative. Yeah, manipulative is what it was exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
So I do that. I quit the job. I'm back
running and gunning again. I get afficted from the apartment
for like there's like loud smells of marijuana and all
that stuff, and they're like, we're not gonna have that
up here in pel City, Alabama, so they evict me.
I moved to Tuscaloosa. I'm about to get sober. I
moved to Tuscaloosa and all my friends are in college

(21:46):
by now, and I mean I'm wheeling and dealing. There
was another drug deal thing kind of gone bad where
there was like a gun involved, and I got beat
up pretty bad and held hostage in this house for
a long time, and my best friend Frankie that I
grew up with, got me out of there. And one

(22:07):
night I was a few weeks later I was. I
went and bought some cocaine and I had weed in
my car and I was doing burnouts on University Boulevard.
Not too smart. I get pulled over. I go to
jail and that's the that's that's the time where I
was talking about. There was nobody I really wanted to
get sober. I didn't know how I get out of jail.

(22:29):
And I'm I'm like, yeawing for real, like I'm done
with this stuff. I go to this house, they're drinking,
they're celebrating that I'm out of jail. Everybody goes to sleep,
and I smoke one blunt, one blunt roach out of
the ash tray and then I'm back on for three months,
just drinking, blacking out.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
It was every day.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
How do I how do I get so drunk that
I just don't exist? And how do I.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do it again the next day?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
And then it's a dark place. Yeah, And it's just
like I'll never forget. I mean, I was nineteen years old.
I woke up one morning. I was throwing up blood
and my hands were just like shaking. The anxiety was
just way too much. And I call my mom and
I said, Mom, whatever we gotta do, but like I gotta.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Go get some help.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And I went to Bradford Health Services and Warrior. I
was there for two weeks. I got a nice letter
from my mom that said, you can't come home to
your court dated you're sentencing.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
You gotta like, you gotta figure it out.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And that was the best thing that ever happened to me,
because I feel like in every addict's life, there's got
to come a point where the people that loved them
and have either aided them in their addiction or whatever,
tough love whatever, have to give them that tough love
and say, no, you gotta do this. And that was

(23:45):
the best thing that ever happened to me because I
started asking the counselors for help. They do this thing
and rehab. You sit in this circle with all thes
and you know, there's like a counselor on this end
and one on this end, and people are talking and
you know, they're taking.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Their little notes and stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
But this one guy started talking about his relationship with
his dad and it was just like I don't know
what it was, but it was like he was telling
my story and it was just like I was looking
in the mirror and I just started crying.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I lost it.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
And it wasn't like a get me out of this
trouble or how do I do this? It was just
like I felt it. It was like boogers and it's
not flying everywhere kind of cry. And then at that
point I was kind of willing to do whatever it
took to get my life on track. And I went
to the halfway house. I lived there for six months.
I worked the steps nine months. I went to my dad.

(24:36):
I made amends and I said, hey, man, like, I
know I did this, this and that and probably some
stuff that.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I don't remember. But I was just wondering what.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I could do to make it right, because it's not
about saying you're sorry. I mean I was pretty sorry
at that point.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I was gonna say, it's not at some point, I'm sorry,
it's worn off. I mean, you probably have done that
dozens of times. Just now, like, how can we make
actions and so forward?

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, so I and he said, there's nothing to do
to make it right. Just keep doing what you're doing.
Let me tell you something, man. I when I got
my seven year chip, I gave it to my dad
and I told him how much I loved him. And
I went to the beach with my family, and on
the way back from Florida with my family, I got
the call. My dad had a massive heart attack and

(25:22):
he died working out in the gym, and.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I didn't plan on crime today.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
But anyways, every day that I wake wake up and
I go to sleep still sober, and you know, and
I get to live this this awesome life that I
have today. Man, it's like those words of like keep
doing what you're doing and all that stuff, or you know,

(25:51):
there's nothing to do to make it right except to
keep doing what you're doing. It's so much more powerful
now than it was, you know, seventeen years ago. And
he told me that, and that's it's like, yeah, it's
so cool man, you know, And that's what I mean.
Sorry I figured out laughing in here, but uh, you know,
my bad.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean, dude, first off, sorry for your loss, and
thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I know that's that's some deep shit dude, for sure.
I imagine he's probably looking looking down man now, pretty
pretty proud of you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think it's funny. I think my dad like would
have loved the fact that Dig Down in Dallas was
the song.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I was gonna say, now you're writing songs about dicks.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Man, that like made my career because me and my dad, like,
after I made him inste him, he asked me if
I wanted to move in with him, and like, I
hadn't lived with my dad since I was three years old,
so it's like me and him became like thicke as thieves.
He was like my best friend. I would talk to
him about financial stuff or like my dad was an
accountant and all this stuff. And my dad would always

(26:50):
say to me, you know, like, son, I'm a I'm
a CEO of a small company, and I hate my
job like you just do music. I know it's gonna
work out for you, you know, and like and like
he's a lot of the reason why I like never
quit and why I kept going because him saying stuff
like that to me. But we used to sit around
when I first bought my guitar and like I would

(27:11):
like make up stupid songs that were kind of like
dick down in Dallas, you know, and like we just
think that they were so funny. So I know that,
like I know when when that song hit, he was
just like, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Of course he's right there on a party out there. Man.
That's I mean, I'm sure he's proud of you, dude,
and and uh, what a world man, dude, Thanks for sharing. Man,
I do not know all of that.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It's it's a lot to tell, you know what I mean,
that's like, what's It's like, it's a lot to tell.
This it's a it's a it's a big long story.
But at the same time, there's so much it's a
big long storytell, but there's so much more life of
my story that I've things that I've done since I've
gotten sober. You know, that's just a part of it.

(27:59):
You know, that's just the that's just the cat's first life,
you know what I mean. You know, it's like I
got sober and like you know, of course I started
playing music is six months sober, but like I worked
at that treatment center that I was a patient act
for seven years, you know. I mean the way I
met Mitchell Wallace is that like his cousin was one

(28:21):
of my patients, and Mitch shared one of my songs
on social media. I met Mitch in the music community
in Alabama. His cousin called him and said, how do
you know this Trey Lewis guy. He was like, I
just met him in music and he was like, what
do you know about him? He's like, well, I know
he's sober. He's like, yeah, that's one of the guys
that like saved my life, you know, and then Mitch
moves to Nashville. My first six months here, we end

(28:43):
up living together and then he helps me. You know,
he's the one that kind of sparked the idea for
Dick down in Dallas, and you know, now he's on
the team and he's crushing it. It's just so many
little things that are that are cool like that.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I mean, it's co and the relationships. I mean, particularly
in this street right it's all about like people you
know and you form. And it's crazy that a story
like that that is obviously so personal to him and
his family and you like, that's how it links you
guys together, and that's wild. That is that is wild. Well.
I was also not expecting to get so deep and

(29:18):
sad today, man, but like you're like, we got to
have a viral piece that might be it, dude. I'm like,
geez ude, no, man, I mean, look, the last thing
I'll say and then I want to I want to
jump to some music and some games and stuff. But
I'm curious because I think, like, you know, I think
like a lot of kids right now, you know, like

(29:40):
there's there's a lot of like stuff you can find
online and then a lot of kids obviously there's like
this pressure to fit in, right I think, like, you know,
mental health is like really really uh pressing issue I
think across the country, across the world right now. I
think social media is a factor to it. I think
like fitting in, you know, alcohol and drugs play factor it.
And I know that that's like something that you are,

(30:04):
you know, addressing it's part of part of you know
you and your campaign and also it's part of your story.
And I'm curious, like I'd love to just get your
thoughts on you know, mental health awareness and.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, man, I mean you got to take care of yourself,
especially to do this job. You know, I mean any job,
but like this job is very demanding and you're always
constantly being told that a no, or you're not good enough,
So you have to like, for me, I have to
continue to look at myself, well are they right here?
Like do I suck at like singing a demo? Right

(30:38):
after I write a song? Well, hell yeah, I do?
What can I do to get better there?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
You know?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
But it's like just something so small like that. It's
like you it's just yeah, man, And like I know
a lot about my past now now that I go
to counseling, Like, I've learned so much about who I
am as a person and what makes me tick from
that childhood trauma and stuff. If it's all old shit,
you know what I mean, it's just like I just
got to be able to like look at it now.

(31:04):
But I feel like, I mean, not everybody has to
do it. Some people are just like you know, being
a Southern man, it's like you just mayn up and
with your problems, you know what I mean. But but
for me, I mean, I feel like I believe everything
builds off the next you know, Like I mean, if
if if it's not true, I mean, then my story
makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Right, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
But I think that it's it's it's it's a it's
been detrimental to me, you know, it's been a huge
part of who I am, and I think that, uh,
there's nothing wrong with going in and talking about your problems.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
You know. I appreciate you saying that because I I
side with you as well, and I think I think
more people are speaking out and up about it. But
as you mentioned, it's still a delicate subject that, of course,
you know, deserves more awareness intention, and I guess I
commend you because it really takes people like you, you know,
even you using your platform in the smallest right and

(32:02):
others hopping on it's like all right, yeah, like if
it's happened to them, just like you're talking about sitting
across the aisle with this guy sharing a similar story
to you, like other people can say, oh yeah, I
relate yeah to that. You know. Guys, we had Trey
Lewis on the podcast. We got a bunch of new
music and games to play, so we're gonna take a
quick break, come right back here. So good to be

(32:24):
back here on the podcast with Trey Lewis. I am
excited because we have some music. I want to hear
the story of Dick down in Dallas. But before we
do that, one of the things that I love to
do is a game called Rank These five Things without
knowing what comes next. A pretty simple I'm gonna give
you a topic in a category and you're just not
gonna know what comes next. So wherever you play something
set in stone, baby, here's what's gonna happen. We are

(32:47):
going to start with rank these five things. One being
hardcore cheating and five being it's not really cheating. Okay,
First up, not deleting dating apps, like, not deleting them
when you're dating somebody. Correct. One would be like ones,

(33:08):
they're cheating. Five is like, eh, they're not. They're probably cheating,
it's safe. I'd say three. What about having a work
wife or a work husband.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Oh, man, that can get messy. I mean that can
you know?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
There there's there's.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean I would say four because like, I don't know,
you want to just keep rolling all right?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
What about replying with heart eyes to someone else's story. Oh,
that's cheating. That's cheat eating, right, that would be one
one that I want. What about changing in front of
someone else, like down to your underwear. Oh I do
that all the time. You like, that's another day, do
that in the office all those women over there. We'll

(33:54):
put that as a five. And so I think your
last one's two, right, Yeah, I really got to get
like a scoreboard of these things. The last one is
watching porn. Oh, definitely not cheating. I think that's clean.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, that's clean. Wow all the way, that's something we've
done since we were twelve, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Younger, hell earlier than before you started drinking and that
was young too. Yeah, exactly, rank these five things, and uh,
I do, I do want to get a little bit
deep here. So let's do. The category is rank these
five things. People. First up, is your bass player Colton?

(34:34):
Like awesome or like one of the one is the best?
Five is the worst? Uh?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
One's one's the best. I'd say he's like two.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Colton's a good guy. Yeah. What about your audio guy,
Nick Gorman, He's he's one. Really, he's the guy he
makes you sound all pretty? What about your manager Alex? Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh man, Now I can't go back. I mean, I
guess he's gonna have to be three if he's yeah,
you know.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
What about uh? What are your best friend Chris? Dang?
Get you got human? Did some digging because I know
some stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Man, I mean, so he can't be number one, two
or three? Are Heah, you're just working down the list. Damn,
I guess he's four.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I'll let you this is I'm making an exception your
one time. I will let you swap Chris for somebody
if you please.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Oh man, I mean, if I could redo the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'll give you a blank slate just because this is juicy.
But now knowing it's Colton, Nick, Alex, and Chris. Yeah,
where are you gonna put him?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I would do Alex first, Chris second, Gorman third, and
Colton four, and.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
That leaves you in the fifth spot, which is Ingram.
Oh yeah, he's five for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Wait, who is that ingram Edits the podcast editor.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Okay, Yeah, he asked me to specifically ask you who
he was. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I mean I haven't known him the longest, you know,
I've only met him once in persons.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, but you do know he exists and he's a human.
I have his number on my phone. Yeah, and maybe
just shoot him a text, tell him you love him,
you know, give him, give him a little lough he
could use it. Sweet.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
All right, that was sorry if you feel unappreciated, ing
I love.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
You, no, man, I uh, he told me to throw
that in there. They write these questions. I want to
talk about the song that we have all wanted to
talk about, Track five on your project now probably sell
a lot more copies if that did. Dude, Let's talk

(36:42):
about the fact that you just completely what I love is.
You took country music, which is known to be a
little bit PG. I broke the big clean he said,
I'm gonna do a one eighty and I'm going to
disrupt all of Nashville by writing a song about Yeah.
I mean, I broke the rules too, but like really

(37:04):
wasn't my intention. Man.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I've been putting out music since twenty thirteen, and I
think my mom and maybe like ten people in Birmingham
would listen to it, you know, And you know, it
was COVID times, things were different. We were just all
hanging out in each other's backyards and Matt McKinnie, which
was one of the writers on the song, had played
me the song a couple of times, but I was

(37:27):
just kind of like, eh, I mean whatever, you know, Like,
you know, it was that like fucked the popo Cory Smith,
which I've got to meet Corey since then, and pretty
cool story there. But anyways, he said, we were me,
Mitch and McKinnie were. Mckennie finished the song and we

(37:49):
were driving back from Chili's and Mitch was like, man,
if this song was on iTunes, I would buy it.
I would pay ninety nine cents for this song. And
it was like a work tape, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, And a couple of days before that, Mitchell told
me to download a TikTok, and like I made some
tiktoks of like me and Ella going to the gym
and like me annoying her and stuff like that on
the treadmill, like not knowing what I was doing. Like
I remember when Instagram first became a thing. I thought
Instagram was just like an app where you just like

(38:20):
edited pictures in. I didn't know it was like an
app app like because Facebook was really the only thing then.
So I get back to the house, I'm sitting around.
I sent ckenny a text and I walked in the
living room and I was like, man, fuck it, let's
do it, you know. And mckennie sent me the work
tape and the lyrics sheet, and I started. I sat
on the edge of my bed and kind of learned

(38:42):
the song, which it has a bridge in it.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Did you know that? I not really, I never knew
that it had a bridge. I just hear the key
change and then we go back.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Because I never I never, I never got to the bridge.
I didn't even record the bridge. I didn't even know
it had a bridge until after I recorded it.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
So I'm curious what the bridge of Dick Down and.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Doubt it's a might have been something that I said
or something that I did. How can I get over
her knowing she's under them.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Change she's getting down.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, but I was just so infatuated with the chorus.
I was like, I remember we started playing like some
acoustics shows again. We went up to the Blue Room
in Statesbro and they like put us on the back
patio and uh I chicked mcawaane was on the cahone
and uh Terry was on guitar, and I was like, dude,

(39:41):
all right, when we get to the chorus, We're just
gonna play the chorus until people in the crowd like
understand what we're doing. Because it wasn't like people in
front of the stage. It was like everybody was drinking
beer playing cornhole.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Like that's almost one of those things you got, yeah,
you do it a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
But there was like a small crowd of like ten
people that were like we played there like three nights
or two nights in a row, like Friday Saturday. You know,
there was like a small group of like ten people
that were like they were like Australian or something. They
had accents or something they weren't from. But I remember
them sending me a message on Instagram like, dude, are

(40:17):
you gonna be at the Blue Room tonight? That that
song was hilarious because we were just like looping the chorus,
you know. And so I get back to Nashville and
Nikki t asked me to come or no, Matt Burrell
he had me on his podcast in the Round or
It's Outside the Round, and he asked me to come
do his podcast, and I mean on that you can

(40:38):
go listen to that podcast. And I'm still talking about
playing cover gigs and the hope of one day, like
you know, not playing cover gigs and being an artist
and you know, doing all the things I'm doing now.
And he's like, I want you to come play my round.
Like I have a song called Little Tired, which is
about mental health and sobriety and stuff, and it's one
of Burrell's favorite songs because you know, he's like kind

(41:00):
of California sober or whatever, you know, he quit drinking.
And he was like, man, I want you to come
play your stuff because I love your stuff. But then
I want you to play Dick Down Dallas as like
a bonus song. Well by this time it would become
like a like a phenomenon amongst the friend group that
we were all like playing at the bonfires and little
COVID parties. We were happening having, you know, and it's

(41:24):
me Joy Beth Taylor, which is phenomenal songwriter, el Angley
crushing it, and Alex Maxwell on stage at Live Oak
and I mean, I rip into this song, the whole
room singing it because it's all of our friends, our
community here in Nashville. And Nikki t takes a video
of it, puts it on Facebook and I think it

(41:46):
got like fifty thousand views, and back then that was like.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
When you get that, you go, oh, this is serious.
And then from.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
There, like Matt McKinnie had like a connect with not barstool,
but what's the Old Rod because when he was at
Georgia he used to send videos and so he sends
it to them and gets put on there. Bonner gets it,
put it on call her Daddy's like they have a
Facebook group and it gets put on there. And then

(42:13):
like I put the first video that me and Mitch
ever did for Dick down in Dallas, like I don't know,
maybe got like ten k views. And then at the
time Mitch didn't even own a camera, like, but Bonner
was filming a lot of stuff. I mean, Bonner was
my guy. Bonner has had been doing my social media

(42:36):
and stuff since like twenty seventeen, like back in the day,
you know, and like there was times where Bonner wasn't
even getting paid. He was still like doing my stuff,
you know, for free, just because he we were friends
and he believed in what I was doing and he
would just like follow me around with a camera. And
then actually Matt McKinney had the idea of going up

(42:56):
to strangers and playing it and I that's when I
went to Midtown and like played it for those and
one of those videos that has like the most views,
uh was like I was playing it for like a
couple that were like two couples, and the guys weren't
into it, but the girls were like totally digging it.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
You can go watch it. That's funny. And the guys
are like what that is this?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
But the like, I guess at that point, we decide
that we're recording it, and I'm like calling Alex Maxwell
because he's like my producer. He produced like my Thomason three.
I put out like work tapes during COVID and me
and him become friends because of Matt McKinney, and I
was like, I was like, dude, I was like, uh,
I think we should just produce this like a Corey

(43:39):
Smith track, like acoustic, you know, or whatever. And Maxwell's like, man,
I think we should go like full production. And I
was dating a girl at the time, and I was
over at her house and I get a text from
Grady Saxman, which me and Grady Saxman go back to
all the way to twenty twelve. He's played on everything
I put out, other than like when I would just
like put.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Out a demo or something.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Played on everything since then and we had a mutual
friend O'Neil r I P. But anyways, he sends me
a text and all the tech all the text says
is dick down in Dallas, and uh so I was
talking to Ryan Nelson about it too. I was like,
what do you think I should do? You know, like
we're just all friends, you know, just trying to figure

(44:21):
this thing out. And when Grady sent me that, I
called Maxwell was like, look, I guess we're going to Grady'
because Grady just text me and said Dick down in Dallas,
and I was like, let's send it, you know, because
I didn't know, you know, like I know that, like
I had worked with like a lot of people in town,
but I didn't know if people wanted to get behind
what I was doing. I was just out like we
were just sending it, dude. We were just like doing

(44:42):
stuff that like you wouldn't normally do. And that's kind
of like helped me in this realm of things moving forward.
It's like, you know, who cares when anybody in town
thinks just go send it?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Baby, wasn't the thing, man. It's like, it's not cool
until it's cool. I said that all the time. It's like, sure,
you probably didn't know this is gonna be what it
is now, but you're like, screw it. I think it's funny.
My boys think it's funny. Let's get after it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
So we we go into the studio we cut this song.
Bonner's in there with a camera, he takes it. There
was another guy in there I can't remember his name,
but he'd like written some songs and he was doing
a session with Grady before we got there. So when
we record this song, Saul Uh Grady are the only

(45:27):
ones that play. Saul plays all the guitars, he plays
the bass, he plays the acoustic, Grady plays drums. We
cut the vocal right there at Grady's right there. I
go to Maxwell's the next day. Maxwell's put the piano
on it. The that's all Maxwell like, that's all his

(45:48):
background vocals, the piano, the Dick Dan dig Dan and
that's all Maxwell. Maxwell does all that. We sent it
to JR. And Frank over at Grady's and they mix master.
I think we did like three mixes. I think we
wanted to crank the vocal up like one more time,
but we had to get it out because after we

(46:09):
left the studio, I had an acoustic gig down in Huntsville,
like the next day, and I drove down to Huntsville
to play this four hour acoustic gig and I posted
a video that night of us in the studio. The
guy that was on the session before us, he was
like listening to the song and he like put his
finger up in the air like this, and I posted

(46:30):
that video. It wasn't even like vertical screen. It was
like you know, like a square.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
A square, yeah, which is so you can't do it.
You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
That's not a polished but anyway, So we posted up
there and I put it on there. I put it
on at the beginning of that gig. I posted it
into the gig. It's got like three million views and
back then like three million. I mean like three million
views back then was like you know, ten million today
and yeah, man, and we send the song to you know,

(47:02):
to be out.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
In uh one RPM.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Who we put it out with cause us like like
two weeks before it comes out, and he's like, yeah, man,
I mean this song is basically gonna debut at number one,
Like you know, like this you could put it out
tomorrow if you wanted to. I was like, nah, let's
stay with December first, because you know, no no nut November.

(47:25):
December first was like kind of kind of a thing. Yeah,
we put it out December first.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
It's a Billboard number one.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
We beat out BTS, the pop group and sales for
that week.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Insane, dude. I remember we t up shows.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
I mean, our first show is in Statesboro, Georgia, where
you know, kind of where it kind of all started.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
And dude, I remember you holding out your phone. You
uploaded like a video or maybe a photo and I
think within like the first couple hours of the song
being out. Yeah, it hit hit a million strong. I
had three million. It was crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
We shot the video for the music video the day
the song came out, so like, I wasn't even like
soaking it in.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I was just like, what do we got?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Like, let's go, let's I remember we drove from Nashville
all the way to State Spur, Georgia. My manager Alex
gave me a pair of AirPods, which I'd never had
air pods, and I was like, what are these cool?
And I put those things in and I was on
the phone with every label in Nashville, LA and New
York the whole way there, you know, just taking meetings,

(48:34):
you know.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Just like because everyone's like, man, this is I mean,
they probably haven't seen these. I mean, you're beating out
BTSD that crazy. It's crazy. I'm curious. One thing I
want to ask you, because I've never got the chance
to ask you, what is your favorite lyric of Dick
down in Dallas? Because it's a very vivid song.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I think the thing that I love about it the
most is how it starts out just like any other
country song.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, and then just the course she's getting dip downe that,
you know what I mean, Yeah, you don't reveal anything
in verse one now verse two chose to get.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
It right, but it's it just kind of has that
quick pick up. But I already know that she's you
know what I mean. I think that's probably like probably
my favorite part of the song. But man, I'm so
grateful for that song. I mean it it it changed
my life, It changed Matt McKinney's life, It changed Ella's life.
You know, it changed our whole friend group's life. And

(49:37):
then you know, to watch them go on and do
killer things from there. I mean, I think every I
think we played one hundred and forty one shows that year,
and I want to say Ella was the opener for
probably eighty percent of those shows.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Wow. You know, and she's crushing it now.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
You know, she's been out on tour with Coach, she's
going out with Dirt, she's going out with Hardy Morgan,
she just put out the song with Cameron Marlowe that's
killer Soul Strangers, dude, Oh my god, she's and just
to watch her grow, I mean, honestly, like I remember
when I first moved to Nashville. I lived here for
six months, and then Ella and Mitch and her and

(50:17):
then Klave Barker moved up here and we all got
a house together. But me and Ella got real close
because the first two weeks.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
It was just me and her in that house.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
And when she came to the old house I was living,
she helped me pack my stuff up and move it
to the new house. And all I had was mattress
on the floor, a TV dinner tray, a TV at xbox,
and a rubber Maid underwear drawer. But she helped me
get all that stuff and moved over. And just to
watch her from the artist the songwriter she was to
where she is now is just dude, she's she's so talented.

(50:50):
We don't have to harp on her for too long.
But like when I say that girl is so talented,
like she can write, she can perform, she dude, she's
just she's just amazing.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Dude, dude, I love, I love how close you guys are.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
And she's just a really I mean, honestly, she's just
a really great, great friend, you know, more more than anything.
I mean, me and her hardly ever sit around and
talk about music stuff. We just talk about life and
just we're just friends.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Man. It's cool, you know, dude, it's cool. Man. I
love that you guys have that relationship and get support
each other. I think it's so important as musicians to
like not talk about music. I mean, shit, man, I
love it too. But like you know, I sit around
talking about music about ten hours out of the day.
I need an hour or two where I can go
to people. For you, it might be Ella for somebody

(51:38):
else's close friend, but like where you can just shoot
the shoot the ship. But the cool part is she
still gets it like you get her because you're in
the industry. It's hard to have a conversation with somebody
that's you know, feelds away because they just don't have.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I don't want to talk to my mom about like right,
you know, hey, I didn't get this tour or like
you know.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Right, And it's so much simpler and easier and anyway.
All that's to say, super talented, you know, as are you?
And I love that you guys are supporting each other.
What I want to ask I'm gonna jump ahead a
little bit here, but I want to talk about you
were Okay, huge record, every label calls you. Yeah, you
go on tour, you know, pushing I'm sure crazy tickets

(52:25):
have seen the show. It's nuts. And then like what
you know what I mean, ye, what do you do?
What's next? Like, because everyone knows you as the guy
that wrote that really hilarious, awesome country song dick down
in Dallas, Like, how do you get taken seriously? Yeah?
I mean I just do it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I'm just me, dude, Like, you know, it's like I
think that it, you know, on the grand scheme of things.
There's a lot of people out there that probably don't
take me serious, but there's enough people that do take
me serious. And I'm still here three years later. I mean,
I just got back from the West Coast. I was
out there for three weeks and every I mean I

(53:05):
think two tickets were like five tickets away from sold out.
You know, we hit points on all our shows. What
points means is if you sell enough tickets, you get
a bonus at the end of the night, you know.
And and for those of you that don't know, but
you know, we're still out here three years later, and
you know, you can't tell me that that's for one song.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
You know, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I mean I put out I think I put out
like twenty something songs since that song, you know. But
we just we're just out here doing it, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
And and.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Just out here putting out music. And and I'll never
forget I signed my publishing deal at Sony Music, Rusty
Gas and and Tom I remember, Anna Wiseman and all them.
They came out to a bunch of my shows, you know,
and yeah they signed Ela you know and all that stuff,
and to publishing deal there and and uh, you know

(53:59):
all our friends un publishing deals. But but they came
out to a ton of shows. And you know, I'm
grateful for a guy like Rusty. I mean he's one
of well he was the best publisher in town this year.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
You know what do he won the award. It was like, yeah,
it's like, yeah, that's my guy.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
That's the guy that sends me text messages every morning
and says, hey, man, just keep your head down. I
believe in you. You know, like this is all going
to work out. Today could be the best day of
your life. You could write the song that could change
your life, you know. And and and really like really
believes in me. And he's like one of the top
guys here in Nashville. Like that's crazy, you know, but

(54:40):
they really believed in me that I was more than
just the one song. So it was cool like having
that and then I you know, of course I didn't
sign to a major label with that song because I
didn't want to get coined into like making that same
kind of music, which I love that song. It'd always
be a part of of who I am, but it
was just kind of a.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Joke, man.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
You know. It's like, you know, I know you probably
will say no, but we all listen to Wheeler Walker Junior,
and then we turn around and listen to Parker McCollum
next or Cody Johnson, you know.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
And with that being so, why can't you do it
for yourself?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
That's what I'm saying, Like, so we're finding we're finding
the people that can love that song but also can
turn around and listen to the other stuff as well too.
And I think, you know, there's always I think the
thing about Dick down Dallas is always going to bring
people to me no matter what, for the rest of
my life. Because some sports team finds the song and

(55:35):
uses it and it has another little viral spin and
people listen to it, and then some people are like, oh, well,
this other stuff is just kind of like normal country music,
or it's like people that like don't really fuck with
country music, but like Dick down to Dallas.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Well, I was gonna say a lot. But then there's
some people that are like, oh well, hell I fuck
with this other shit too, you know. Yeah, And but
like I said, like, you know, it's always going to
bring people to me. And I think if you home
to my live show, if you come and Dick down
a Dallas fan, it's my job to make you leave
a Trey Lewis fan, dude.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
And that's like my mission statement, you know.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
And I believe that every Like I said earlier, everything
builds off the next. I spent eight years playing a
in a you know, in a cover band, basically.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
So I could learn how to put on a show.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, dude, It's like it's like Cooper Allen, Dude, have
you ever seen his show?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Show is awesome, Dude.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I watched him open for kid Rock, and kid Rock's
crowd is not an easy crowd to please. Like I
would come out there and seeing Dick down to Dallas
every night and some people were just like what is this?
You know, But I watched Cooper do two shows with
kid Rock, which is like his idol, you know, and
that was his first concert he ever went to, and
I watched him carry that crowd and just play into

(56:52):
who he was. He made fun of himself being you know,
the TikTok thing he made fun of, Like, dude, it was.
It was awesome. But like he spent all those years
on Broadway and doing all that stuff, and I believe that,
you know, the reason that I had to grind so
many years in that in the club scene was is
to you know, know how to build a show and
know how to grab an audience and bring them in.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Dude, I love that, man, I love that motto. I
love your live show just like I love Coops. You know,
I didn't maybe bust out some of those cover gigs
with you, but like years ago, I watched Cooper, yeah,
you know, on old Red stage or you know, some
not even that, maybe even a smaller dive bar. It's like, dude,

(57:35):
you gotta win crowds over it. You got thirty seconds
of some crappy cover song, figure out how to grab
somebody's phone and lick the screen and yeah, dude, get
a little nasty, you know, but like that's part of it, dude,
And I think I think you're doing a great job
cultivating that. And I've had a lot of friends. I'm
not just saying this to you know, blow smoke up

(57:56):
your ass, but I've had a lot of friends that
maybe are outside of country that have come to me
being like, man, you're in Nashville. You know that dick
down in Dallas guy. And I'm like, yeah, like we're
bud Seah of course. And they're like yeah, I'm like
but dude, you gotta check us. And they're like yeah.
We started going through his catalog and like, you have
really really heartfelt songs. And one of the songs I
want to talk about that you didn't put out but
you wrote on Okay, I want to talk about the
Coole Swindellcott. Yeah, because now hearing your story, it makes

(58:20):
even more sense to me. And I also mean this,
it is a badass songs, a well written song top
to bottom. That you look at that song, it's not
a joke song. It's a very serious song. And I
think it's a testament to your skills and you honing
your craft for eight ten years as a songwriter too.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yeah, man, I think it's really cool. Like I said,
you know, Rusty Gassing and Tom Ludan and all the
Sony team believed in me not only as just an artist,
but as a songwriter. And you know, telling my story
is who I am, you know. And I remember when
I I know we're gonna talk about on my record later,
but I know when I went into do this record.

(59:00):
Lynn Oliver text me one time when I was out
in an uh in uh Denver and she was like,
what are you up to. I was like, well, I'm
gonna take X amount of dollars my own money. I'm
gonna make a record. And she was like, I want in.
So it's like it's a slow thing in this town
where you for me, where I've gotten to, you know,
be taken serious. So I go on this writer's retreat

(59:23):
and you know, I've made believers out of people and
that's that's what I do.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Like it might be a slow burn, but I'm I mean,
I'm never gonna stop working. I'm always gonna work. And
and if you're around me long enough and you get
to know me as a person, I mean, I'm gonna
make you. I'm gonna make you a believer. I got
to that's my that's my job. And you know, I
feel like Jordan Walker is one of the best songwriters

(59:48):
in this town. Tranny Anderson is one of the best
songwriters in this town. And and uh they've been with
you know, Jordan's been willing to write with me for
a long time. So Tom Luteran puts together this writer's treat.
We go out there, we're writing this breakup ballot. It's like,
if you came here to make it right, you came
to the wrong place. And Tran Anderson's like, she's like,

(01:00:10):
uh so, what side of the heartbreak are we writing from.
I was like, well, hell, I've been on both sides
of it. She was like, I think that's a song
idea right there. I was like, all right, well, let's
finish this one first. Mcewaine's making this Hamburgers wet Hamburgers.
We sat down, we start writing this song, and I'm thinking,
we're gonna write it about my divorce because I went
through a divorce after I got sober. I was married

(01:00:32):
for like seven years. But uh, anyways, and she was like, no,
this is about your parents' divorce and you being a
little kid. And man, I really just can't even say
how the song was written because it just happened in
like an hour and a half. And Jordan and Tranny
are such great songwriters that I they just that I
just like kept telling my story and we just like

(01:00:54):
kept making this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Thing and and uh man it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Fell out and I was just like, like earlier my
eyes were wet. Yeah, you know, this thing was happening,
and like that song didn't happen if they weren't there,
and that song didn't happen. We had a total God moment.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
You know. It's just like a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
That day was supposed to happen, and that was exactly
where I was supposed to be. And I love when
when you get together and you write a song and
it feels like that, because not every day feels like that.
Some days you show up to create and it just
ain't popping, but you just go through it. But that
day was supposed to happen, and it was really cool
and I got done, We got done writing it. I

(01:01:35):
sent it to Rusty right away, Like if I'm really
hot on something, I just send it to Rusty because
like Rusty's opinion to me is like, like Tom can
tell me it's awesome. Kenley can tell me it's awesome,
and like, I respect those guys because they're like they're publishers.
That's what they do. But like Rusty is like the boss,
you know what I mean. So if Rusty tells me

(01:01:56):
it is a song, it's good, I'm like, okay, cool.
And I was like, Rusty, I know you're busy man,
like he was taking meeting stuff. I was like, but
please listen to this. It's the best song I've ever written.
And he calls me. He's like, man, I'll just be
honest with you. I haven't listened to it because we wrote,
like I wrote some other songs with James McNair and stuff,
and Emily Wiseman said Mosley earlier that week. He's like,

(01:02:19):
I'll be honest with you, man, I've been busy, Like
I haven't listened to any of this song, but I
listened to that one, and that is the best song
you've ever written. It's like, gotta go on your record. Well,
my record's been done, Like it's done. I'm like, uh,
you got to call in because my record's done. Rusty
and I didn't hear anything for like two more days,
and then he hit me back. He was like, look, man,

(01:02:41):
I think this song is your story. I think it
should go into record, but I think it's a lot
of other people's story. He was like, what do you
think if we pitch it to Cole Swindell? And I
start thinking, Uh, what's the song you had? You should
be here?

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
And I just start thinking about out like this is
all within seconds, you know, in my mind, I'm like,
you should be here, uh, middle of a memory break up.
In the end, I've been listening to his music my
whole life. I start thinking about my jeep wrangler, you know,
with no air conditioner, listening to his music. I'm like,
that sounds cool, Rusty, do it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Do it? Do it? Don't hell, you guys are close now,
you guys are both bald. That connection. Yeah, that was funny.
That's the memes that they were making on the internet.
But anyway, so, uh, Rusty sends it to Cole. Don't
hear anything. Two weeks later, I wake up from it
in a group text. It was like me, Rusty, uh,

(01:03:41):
and uh and Tom. I know none of y'all know
who these people are. But the but the main one
is Colt Swindell. Love the song. Thank y'all for writing it.
This song hurts in the best way possible. Basically, you know,
I can't wait to cut this thing. And then I

(01:04:03):
don't hear anything for a while, and then I'll wake
up to another text, Hey can y'all come by the
studio today in the afternoon And we go over to uh,
I can't think of the studio right over here, and
we get to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
His version, his version, and I guess who played guitar
on it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Saw soft lay guitar baby, same guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Same guy played on Dick down in Dallas out so
that was really cool. And then we're sitting there and
they had the sheet music you know that they use
and the chart and I say, hey, cool, like can
I can I have this?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Like that's cool?

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Like it was bothering me. I wanted to ask, but
he was like, yeah, sure, man, and he was like,
actually give it to me, and he like wrote me
a letter and was like thanks for a career song.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
You know, dude, that's so blah blah blah blah. I
have it framed. It's in my little podcast studio. Man.
That is such a cool story.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
But yeah, man, it's out now, and it's like, you know,
I had that song and then I wrote this. After
that happened, my wheel started spinning and I wrote this
other song called out Here in It a while back
with Lee Thomas Miller and Chris Utley, and I heard
that Blake Shelton's producer like liked it or somebody liked it,

(01:05:20):
but he like passed on it, you know in the end.
And uh, I've met Tracy Lawrence along this journey. Nice,
one of the nicest guys in Nashville, fucking legend, grew
up listening to his music A beast a beast, and
uh I ran into his manager at this Riley thing
Ella's on tour, going on tour with Riley, and she

(01:05:42):
was like, yeah, he's cutting music. If you have anything
like send it to him. And I just sent it.
I just like found that song. I sent him my demo.
I was like, hey, man, I don't I don't want
to be weird, but like if you're not into this, no, no,
we'd still be friends, no hurt feelings. He said, can
you see me the lyric sheet? And I was like, yeah,
of course, And then I sent it to him. I
didn't hear anything back. He asked me to come do

(01:06:02):
his turkey Fry does every year for his uh, for his.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Whatever. It's like a foundation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, And I went up there and dropped a turkey,
took a picture with him and he said, oh, yeah,
I cut your song by the way, and I was
like awesome, and he was like, I sent it to
you later. And I drive home Thanksgiving, going home back
to Alabama, and I just listened to it over and
over and I'm just like crying in my car. Came
out last Friday. It's called out Here out Here. So

(01:06:33):
this is the thing though, It's like both of those
songs three feet tall, out here in it. That's who
I am, That's what I do. Those are the kind
of songs that I write as a person. So like
on my record that's coming out, like, I have some
tempo songs and some of those songs I didn't write
because that's not my strong suit. But I got to
have those for the live show.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
And I know that dude, that's such an amazing story.
I love. I love to hear the cool story of him,
and I need the studio agains. You get that lyric
sheet and like hearing that for the first time and
him saying he is a career song because you know
he felt that the same pain that you are feeling
on your end. And then the Tracy front. I mean,

(01:07:14):
what an icon, dude, and he just cut it. He
didn't like there was no notice that came in. By
the way, I already recorded.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Well, here's the thing. He was only cutting five things.
My publisher called me, uh two weeks ago. It's like,
hey man, I don't know if you know this, but uh,
this out here in that song is the title track
of his EP. So I went from he was only
cutting five songs to getting the cut, then to be
in the top track right on a fucking legend. You

(01:07:44):
just find a way to sneak in trick. That's but
I said, that's the deal man. I'm hanging in there
like I heard of a biscuit and I'm gonna keep coming.
You know, people are gonna either take me serious or
But you know, as long as we have enough, that's
all we need.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Slow burn, but the stove is still high. Come on,
hey man, we're gonna take one more quick break. Come
right back, and we got your album to talk about.
Welcome back, guys, thanks for tuning in and listening here
with Trey Lewis on his story crazy crazy childhood, crazy

(01:08:18):
story of really a sort of a ten year conglomerate
of writing and recording music, big record, big records for
other artists as well. And we just have a few
minutes left here. One thing that I noticed when you
brought in is this lovely box, the Troublemaker Box. This
is the Troublemaker Box.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
So that is the trouble Maker is the title track
of my record. Before you open the box, let let
me just tell you this quick story, real quick. So
the the opening line of the song is I used
to hide in the weeds every time my best friends
Mama drove by to see that Frankie wasn't hanging with
the likes of me and and and and Frankie was

(01:08:58):
my best friend, your boy. I talked about him earlier.
He's you know that's this is little Trey in the
music video. This is all clips from This is Frankie
playing Frankie and but anyways, so those are all clips
from the music video. But back to Dick down in Dallas.
So we were talking about the listening room earlier and

(01:09:20):
a buddy of mine asked me to play the listening room.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I guess he was like an outside promoter, and I
told him. I was like, dude, like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
This is how I got banned from the listening room.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I was like, I was like, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
So like I was like, I'll play there, but like,
I'm gonna play Dick down in Dallas. People are gonna
buy tickets to come hear me play that song there.
So I asked three times to make sure that it
was like cool to play there because I know, like
I love I love the listening room and like what
it does for songwriters, but I know that my brand
at the time with that song was doesn't really fit

(01:09:53):
what happens there. Yeah, because I know it's like a
family friendly thing. So I was just like, hey, like
you know, this is cool. So they're like, yeah, man,
that's fine. I get there and they're like, hey, man,
you can't play the song. I'm like, well, the venue
sold out for this is my footlights moment.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
I got people bought tickets. They want to hear it.
I'm going to play it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yeah, So when I get to butt fuck that, of
course they cut the p a off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
No, they really cut they cut the p a yeah,
and wait, please tell me that you finished it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Sing it and the whole crowd was singing it acapella,
and then I put my guitar in my case, I
walked back on stage, gave him two middle fingers, and
threw my shirt out to the crowd. And my lawyer
was there and he was just like Scott Safford, that part.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Might have been a little overboard. That was aboard, and right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
At the time, like I hadn't signed my deal with Riverhouse,
like it was still in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
The they were gonna be like that coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I was like, yeah, I told I was like, I
was like, yeah, I mean, maybe the shirt off and
the two middle fingers was a little over the top,
but like, you know, he was like, well, I mean, man,
you know that was a little over the top, but
like at the same time, you did ask three times,
you know, all right. Coolest story about that is, so
the guy that asked me to play the listening room

(01:11:06):
that night is his first cousin is Frankie's dad.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
So Frankie's Frankie. Yeah, hold on, I'm doing the math here. Yeah,
guy that asked you play the listening room his cousin
is Frankie's dad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, so wow, Frankie's dad finds out that I'm playing
this show, and I mean, dude, I haven't seen the
guy in fifteen years, you know. And he's like, I'm
coming down to Knoxville, like you know, of course, Frankie's like,
you know, they didn't like me hanging out with Frankie
when we were younger, but like they know that I've
gotten sober and like, you know, I've done really well

(01:11:43):
in my music and stuff. He's like, I'm going to
see Trey. So when the when the thing starts, I
play like whatever She Sees in Me, which is a
song that I wrote by my mom. I play trouble
Maker because that's about, you know, Frankie. Like when I
wrote trouble Maker, I sent the demo to Frankie and
like he's send it to his mom, so I know
his dad had like heard it, and uh, I play

(01:12:04):
all those songs and then the dick Town of Dallas
thing happens. They cut the pa off, like everybody's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Like and he's you've you've like previously hyped him up
to be like, hey, Trey's like cool, Yeah, he's got
his ship together.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
And It was great because me and Frankie are still
friends and we went to like I think we went
to the Iron Bowl like a few weeks later and
down in Alabama. I try to go down to Alabama
and catch a football game with him every year, and uh,
just because something we've done since we were kids. And
he was like, man, it was great. My dad called
me after that show you played and said, O old

(01:12:39):
t bird Man, he ain't changed the bit. I fucking
love that shit, you know. But it's like at the
same time, it's like, damn, I really showed my ass.
But but it just goes to show that man, like
I believe I'm a good man today. I do really
feel that I have changed tremendously from the from the

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man I was or the boy I was, you know,
before I got sober. And you know, I don't have
it all figured out. I'm still figuring this thing out.
Dick Down Dallas was a joke between friends that went viral.
It changed my life. There's a lot of there's more
positive that came from that song than negative in my life.

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And you know, I just want to you know I have,
but I do have dreams of playing the Grand Ole
opry and having songs on the radio just to prove
to the troublemaker like me that you don't have to
have your life figured out. You don't have to know
that you're gonna go to college and you know, work
for your dad's friends insurance agency and have a four

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oh one k and have a house and get married
and you know, have everything mapped out that you can
kind of find your own way and and uh, you know,
ride the waves, so to say, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
I love that, But this is your troublemaker. This is
my Troublemaker box for the album. Yeah, I'm gonna this
is a live unboxing everyone live. I love I love
this cover. Dude, here we go. I haven't actually seen
one of these. You haven't seen one of these? Here
we go. Get a little there. This note which very emotional,

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very lovely note. Yeah, I'm not going to read the
whole thing camera because well I might cry again and
we've already we've already cried once here. But here we go. Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Look at this sign final I signed five hundred of them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
This is badass man and I love sideay Side B
fourteen song. Can I share this? Yeah, you can share?
Look at that we got sideway side B fourteen. It's
nice to see the track listing here for the first time.
This is great. Oh man, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
So that is so I started a hat company. It's
called Paul Paul's Hats. On one of these for so yeah,
ud me Mitch Wallace and my manager, my man, my pop,
my grandfather he was a Paul Paul and we wanted
to make hats that honored our grandfathers and looked like
hats that our grandfather wore.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
And uh it was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
It was really kind of Mitch's idea, and then he
was like, what do you want to call it? I
was like, well, I called my Paul Paul. I called
my grandfather Paul Paul, and he taught me how to fish.
So the bait and tackle. Yeah, it was the first hat.
But this is Trey Lewis Paul Paul's record.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Dude. I mean, let's do it. Let's do it, let's
do it. I don't need that hat anymore. We need
this guy. Come on, how's it sitting? Looks good on you?
Can I wear it? Okay, good on you? Maddy? Maybe
get a litt zoom in here, but of the good
side a little bit of bad Side, right, we're there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Yeah, we're only going to make a few of those.
We're not gonna continue to a limited edition.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
I feel I feel blessed. We got the I got
the limited edition hat on now, so it's a scarf.
I got a scarf with Trey's name on it, so
we see why this is Dude, this is quite a box.
You got ye candy cigarettes. You remember they quit smoking kids,
don't do it. I actually love these things. I'm gonna
I'm gonna put these here because I might actually have
one for the back half of this. And then we

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got your detention slip.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Detention slip notepad. Pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Got a lot of those, a lot of reps and
detention for you. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
The funnest thing in there is, uh, the Whoopee cushion.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
This little guy, look at that. I'm going to use
this to prank somebody. I thought, I does it have
my logo on it? Yeah, dude, that's crazy. I didn't
even know that. Yeah, you got the Trey Lewis whoopie cushion.
This is badass. I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna, I'm
gonna bullw this up and put it on the couch.
Tonight prank my roommate. You should. I'm gona get a video.
I'm gonna get a video. I'm telling people this now
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna get a video, imna
send it to you. That's great. This is awesome, man, dude,

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thank you. And then all this was this little guy too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Oh, a little fidget thing, little fidget thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Little. The thing is I do have issues with like
sometimes I don't know what to do with my hands
and they just start shaking. Maybe this will be the
pocket right now, this will be my kind of my thing.
So I'm keeping this because I'm gonna need it very soon.
And I'm also keeping this because I'm gonna need it
very soon. Cool, but don't do cigarettes, kids.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
But yeah, that's it. That's it, Man, Troublemaker. The record
comes out March first. I'm sure this episode will probably
be out later in March first.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I'm Matt, it's probably out now, it'll be it'll be
probably like uh yeah, probably like maybe a week or
two after. But all that's to say it when it
comes out, which is now real time is out. Now
it's out now, dude. Thanks for thanks for coming on
this podcast, man, thanks for thanks for this, this Troublemaker

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box and these gifts. We have just a few minutes left.
And this is one of my favorite things to do
because my friend's at Ariot which hooked me up with
with sweatshirt here and hook us all up with the
country Western Peril. They do this thing called rapid fire
question sixty seconds, So whatever comes to mind, you just
fire it off. I don't think too hard. That's that's

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the that's the downfall for a lot of people. Are here,
we go, Matti's gonna wind up sixty seconds on the clock.
Rapid fire questions three two one. What is your dream
collaboration jelly roll to fight or pillow fights? Uh pit
uh pillow? Oh wow, that sounds weird. Kickball or dodgeball? Kickball?

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Would you rather give up sobriety or give up sex?
Give up sex, losing the best losing a best friend,
or cheating on your wife? Losing a best friend? That
would be Uh, cheating is tough. Have you ever had
a threesome? I never have? Thank you for sharing. If
you were given an all expenses trip just to move

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right now and go to go to Europe, but you'd
have to leave right now and be there for the
rest of your life, never have to work a day again.
Would you do it? Yes? Would you rather oversleep every
day for a week or not get any sleep at
all for four days? Uh? No, sleep for four days? Damn.
You can just run on some caffeine. And if you
ran into your ex girlfriend's best friend, would you give

(01:18:56):
her a handshake or a hug? Uh a, Uh, you're
thinking too much. Probably just handshake. And what's the most
embarrassing thing you've ever done in public? Oh? Ship my
pants for sure? Yeah? No lot, Where was that? I mean,
which time? You know? That's awesome? Sixty second questions said

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by area. That was good dude, thanks man, But that's
it happens right. Yeah, I did it the other day
in the truck with uh my girlfriend in the car?
Was that the first time? In front of me?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
McKinny Bonner and Brooke. I was like, I turned down
the radio. I was like, oh yeah, I just shipped
my pants.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
I was the response.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
They were like, really, broke Brooke? My girlfriend? Man, she's
so sweet. It's her birthday today, Happy birthday. Broke broke
And she was like, oh, honey, I'm sorry. Do you
feel bad? You know, I feel like most girls would
be like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
That's fucking disgusting. Yeah you need to they'd pull over. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's funny. Well, dude, thanks for coming on this podcast,
Thanks for sharing your story, Thanks thanks for sharing more
about the album and your songwriting process. Thanks for having me.
It's fun man, long long overdue, and you know, I
will say most of these episodes, I do are you know,

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around thirty minutes, forty five minutes I think this, you know,
I think we're almost at an hour, hour and a
half year. And the reason why you know, I've loved
it is like every bit of this has been fun.
You you, you clearly know how to tell a story,
and you clearly have a story. Is like Joe Rogan today,
that's crazy, bro. And now I feel like we need
to go on out of here and go get some finners.

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So all right, thanks guys, We'll see you all next week.