April 8, 2024 • 47 mins
Hey everyone, welcome back to The 615 House Podcast, it's Chris Ruediger here with another week in the 615 house, music city that is Nashville, TN. This podcast is a chance to take a deep dive with Nashville’s hottest artists. We learn their stories, talking about songwriting, recording, creativity, and balancing social media in an ever changing industry. We are ready to rock and roll so let's dive in for this next episode so let's get into it. This next Nashville band is known for emotionally vibrant and soft indie tunes. Started in 2016, the group is composed of cousins Jonathan and Joey from Philadelphia and friend Nicholas from Ohio. Their sophomore album came out in August of last year and they are set to hit the road again this year while working on new music. These three have crafted a unique sound and built a loyal fan base. They are well on their way and I am excited to talk about the start, where they are now, and what the future entails. Please welcome… Nightly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's actually why I wanted you guys to come on.
The podcast was nothing about music. I just want to
talk about Jilly.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
More of a preserves guy if when being honest.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
But okay, that's just me. Hey everyone, welcome back to
the six one five hours podcast. It's your host, Chris
Rudeger and it's another week here in Music City, Nashville, Tennessee.
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The cool part about this podcast we get to take
a deep dive with Nashville's hottest artists and bands. We
have to learn their stories, talk a little bit about
their songwriting, creative process, and just balancing social media because
it's a crazy world right now. So here's the cool part.
I have not ever met these guys, so in real
time here we're meeting. But this Nashville band is a
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favorite of mine. What I think is super cool is
they're outside of the country space. They're known for their
vibrant indie tunes. They're twenty sixteen. Initial was formed with
the project that came out It's Two Cousins. Then they
brought in a third to the group, and in the
past couple of years they have been crushing it on
the tour. On the tours, on the records. I'm really
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excited to have you guys in the studio the one
and only Nightly. Thank you for having us many man,
thanks for having us man. It was I enjoyed our
this morning. I thought it was hilarious that you and
I went to a gas station at not I didn't
even like. I was just so tired when I woke
up this morning, I like didn't even process that it
was you and we go to gas station and we're
both getting red bulls to feel our day.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
For some reason, I felt like I was going to
see you later in the day. When you walked out
and I walked in, I was like, I feel like
I'm going to see that guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You have that feeling like we you didn't say at
each other.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, I didn't. We just don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I just saw him walking out and I was walking in.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, like I I've obviously followed you guys online, I've like,
you know, seen your show, like I know you, but
I was just like head down on a mission. But
then when I.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Saw you when I got here, I was like, that's
the guy. And I was like, is it awkward if
I don't say anything that I saw you a second
ago or is it more?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know what I mean? It was.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
It's one of those interactions where we both know it happened.
We just got to clear that from the gas station. Yeah,
just had bulls on the brain. Yeah, I love it. Well,
I'm super pumped to have you guys on. I have
been a big fan following you since your start in
twenty sixteen. But I would love to know where, how
did the band form in the first place, and how
did the concept of Nightly come to be.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
It was kind of an accident in a way. So,
like you said, Joey and I are cousins, and we
had been in different bands since we were kids. And
the last band that we were in, we're kind of
doing a lot of like sink stuff at the time,
and then that sort of just fizzled out and we
were in La Or We had booked a trip to
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la like paid for and stuff, and we were just
kind of like, let's go just make some music. So
we went out for I don't even know, it probably
wasn't that long, felt like two weeks. I think, yeah,
maybe two weeks made some music. This is like the
end of twenty fifteen, and we didn't we weren't writing
for any reason. We were just having fun making music
and then left went home for the holidays, came back
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and texted each other and we were like both kind
of saying the same thing where it was like, yeah, dude,
I've been listening to these songs. I think we made
like four or five songs at the time. I was like,
I've been listening to these a lot, Like I think
we should do something, you know. So we did that
and then found Nick and sent them the demos and
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then just had to pester.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Him and loved them immediately.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, no, no response immediately, Nick.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You get these demos from Jonathan Joey. What's your reaction
to the demos?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I was like, these are sick.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He said, these are sick. Let me just not respond
to respond. You went ghost node on.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I got to look back at my text. He had
to make us, you know, wait and want it even more,
you know, because what you.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Did was you were playing hard to get. Yeah, a
little bit little strategic, I don't remember. Yeah. So yeah,
So and you guys are from Philadelphia, correct, Yeah, the
general area, Yeah, like Jersey Side. And then I'm kind
of like Valley Forge gotcha. I'm curious, like, what is
the best Philly cheese sakes?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Okay, this is a heated This is a heated conversation
because you know, everyone says like pats and genos, but
that's like the corporate like you don't, we don't go there.
I we I used to love, Like I would always
tell people to go to gyms on South Street because
that's my But it burned down, allegedly burned down. I
think the mob was maybe involved, but don't quote me
on that anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah you're putting this on the internet, dude.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, you're right. You're right, the mob was not involved,
but yeah it burned down. So I like Iscabibbles too,
which is on South Street, because South Street it's like
a cool area of Philly, like people should see anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sure, that's like where one of the main like venues
is and stuff. So I feel like that's where we're
usually we were hanging out when we're.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Back now just for like playing shows.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But I got to say shout out to Dnick's be
even pork that's in the reading terminal. It's like the
pork sandwiches, like the slept On Sandwich of Philly.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I have not been there. I will say the crazy
part when I went. I did end up going to
gyms and they do just sing where you get it,
Like I thing it's called whiz wet, right, you get
like the cheese and all the stuff on top. But
I've never felt so much pressure and in line to
order so quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Like if you don't order, they'll tell you to get
to that on.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah. I guess it's just the Philly cheese steak culture.
It's like you need to be determined.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I got to tell you, that's just like the Philly
culture in general. Yeah, it's like, was like I love Philly,
but like moving down here, Like I absolutely love living
down here, but it took me, like I sawid, like
three years of being down here to like get used
to the pace, which is amazing. The community down here
is awesome, but it's definitely like a totally different vibe.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Remember when your cousin asked what a chicken cutlet was,
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I think, yeah, he's like, you know, he said what
kind of spices are on the chicken cut? That we
all looked at and we're like, dude, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know, like my god, Nick, you're from Ohio? Yes,
what what? What's the cheese steak culture like in Ohio?
Is it e it's pizza? Mainly tell him tell him
home of home of also home of Arby's. There you go,
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I do like Arby's. We have the meats.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Fun fact handles ice cream started in Youngstown. We would
always go to like the original one.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Grown up. They just put one in Hendersonville. Interesting, So
they're expanding. Did you have anything to do with the
expansion process?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah? Now requests an email every day.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's about it, right, I love it. So Okay, so
you guys are making some demos. You send him a
Nick Nick plays hard a gat and then eventually he's
in like what's the When do you guys decide, Okay,
we're gonna we're gonna actually like record and release this
music and do the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, it kind of happened like it was. Yeah, like
we we had sent those demos around kind of and
we had a couple of like friends and the industry,
and those demos got like circulated within the industry, and
we had started getting a lot of calls from like
labels and stuff who were like, oh, we actually have
to like play these songs live, so we kind of
like went we think.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
We basically yeah, we were like we should probably play
a show and find like I don't know why, but
we were like, we need to find a lawyer first,
I think just because yeah, like stuff was getting sent around,
like we didn't have a band name, nothing released, nothing
like that. And then we played this show, found our lawyer.
Like I just I only knew like one lawyer, and
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I was like, we got to get this guy.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You know he did.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
He did like a bunch of stuff like Kings of Leon,
Paramore or whatever, and like this is the guy. So
we do the show, get a lawyer, and then our
buddies asked if we would open up for a show
at Twelfth Importer at the time when they were doing shows.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Don't know if they are still or not.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, we played that show and it's like presented by
an alternative radio station and a guy just comes up
to us and he's like, yo, do you guys want
to be like the band our band of the month,
Like we'll play your song on the radio like a
couple of times a day and then at the end
of the month, like you'll headline. And so we were
(08:23):
just like we were like, yeah, yes, we don't have
any music, like like we were playing stuff that we
had been working on, but nothing was out.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. We had we had like demos, they weren't like
finished or mixed or mastered or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, so did you end up sending the demos and
they well, we.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Got it like rushed mixed. Well. Our our friend Keith
who we did the first EP with, he mixed it
and then we got it mastered like that day and
then send it out.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
But it's like, uh, we had to pick a song
so like to be our first song, and it was
like between a couple and so I just texted Nick
and I was like, what song should we put out?
And so he texted He's like, XO was our first
song and and so I'm like and I did it
all like through distro Kid, which is like an indie
like just how you put music on Spotify if you
have no label.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Step one yeah, yeah, step one.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And and then like so I submitted all because it
has to be submitted by like midnight. And then he
texts me back like a couple hours later and he's
like no, no, no, this other song.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And I was like, dude, it's literally we actually never
put that song out. The other song too, Yeah, I
guess we made really well.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I guess XO was a good choice because I turned
out I was a pretty you know, pretty popular track
on that before it's four song EP that you guys
put out of. I do say, like a lot of
people outside of music might not get this, but the
creative process takes a lot of time, right, and like
writing and recording and then deciding on what record you
want to put out. Like you can't rush that process
(09:44):
for sure, but when you're down to the wire with
a distro kid upload and an indie radio spot I
guess I guess XO is the one. When So after
you guys put that out, did that immediately like kind
of like take off and kind of spiral into some
because that's a great song and I know it's you know,
millions millions of streams at this point. Yeah, so like
(10:05):
what was the reaction it was?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, it was just one of those times where like
twenty sixteen, I feel like, and seventeen was when Spotify
was like just becoming like the thing, you know, and
so it did super well, got a lot of attention
really quickly. And yeah, and then the radio thing helped
in Nashville because it was getting played all the time.
(10:31):
So we kind of like quickly made a lot of
fans that I think would normally take a lot longer,
you know.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Then we had to scramble on like the live show,
like what are we gonna do? We had like are like,
oh man, we have three hundred dollars to like get lights.
We're like how were we gonna do that? So we
just like literally bought led strips from Amazon and like converters,
and then we built lighting fixtures out of wood.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I think we spent two hundred and fifty dollars. Took
us like three days like soldered it all together and
then wired it and then programmed it on the computer.
So we had like a light show or whatever. Yeah,
but it ended up turning out like all right, And
that's kind of been like I think a big focus
of this band since the inception of it has always
been the live show and like how we can translate
what we write in the studio to like the live
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performance and like what that looks, like, what colors it
is and all that stuff. So that was kind of
it was like a it was a cool way that
we've kind of figured out that was important to us.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I love that. I love that you guys, you know,
are so passionate about the live show and that experience.
I'm curious because you've said that you made like you
soldered a couple of light stuff. When it comes to
the band, do you guys have responsibilities? Like is somebody
in charge of sort of the production aspect and then
the live show aspect and then the marketing? Like how
do you guys balance that dynamic?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
As? We're actually super lucky. I feel like we're all
really good at different things. Like when it comes to
like the writing process, We're all very involved with most things.
Nick is definitely the most musical out of all of us,
and the most detail oriented. So a lot of time
we'll start a song and like get the bones and
then he'll like dig in and fix things that are
wrong or like change stuff a little bit here or there,
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and then we'll finish the song. But uh, like, yeah,
I mean I love programming live stuff, so I always
end up doing all the live programming. But then like, yeah,
John does you know obviously most of the lyric and melody,
and but we all kind of bounce off the computer
when we're producing, like you know, everyone will sit in
and put something in or whatever. So it's kind of
very collaborative. But we're all very comfortable with each other's strengths,
(12:30):
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So you guys never get into any arguments then right.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh, yeah, we definitely do. But yeah, for sure, I
would say ninety nine percent of the time, we like
have a similar vision that we're like, we're really good
at supplementing what needs to be done individually and together.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you you mentioned the you know, support from radio
station Nashville. I think it's super interesting what you guys
are doing because I mean, let's face at, Nashville is
music city, country music, right country radio. There's all this
legacy with the opry. I think oftentimes other bands maybe
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feel like overshadowed by that or hidden by that. But
you guys have clearly navigated, you know, your own lane,
which is outside of country. Like is there a reason
why you guys kind of like set roots in Nashville
versus going elsewhere? And like how is that process of
being a pop act, you know, in the act out
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of Nashville.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
You know, Ben, I think for Joe and I was
also kind of random, like we just decided we would
come down here for a couple months to try it
because there wasn't There was some music happening in in Jersey,
where we were living at the time, but it was
definitely more in the like pop punk like world or
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cover band. I feel like those were kind of the
two of the biggest scenes. And we had done like
some traveling in high school in that band, like one
of those bands, and then just kind of fell in
love with Nashville and we had some family here, like
some other cousins and stuff, so we were like we'll
just save up money, moved down for like three to
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six months, and then just like never left. So but
as far as and then Nick, I don't know what
brought you down here, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean I lived in like Boston, I've lived in
LA for a little bit, and neither of them felt
like right. So then I like went back to Ohio
for like a couple of years, and then I was
like I just got to move to Nashville cause it's
just like I feel like a lot of people were
moving down to Nashville and it just seemed like more
my speed, and like it's just like an easier community
at least for like my personality to like get involved
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in and meet people as opposed to LA, where it's
like not my speed. I feel like, So I don't
know it, just like once I moved here, it just
kind of clicked and I just like made friends faster
in two months than I've made in a year and
a half in LA.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So, yeah, that's a little smaller, right a litt Where
in Nashville do you guys live. I live downtown Donaldson. Okay,
so you guys don't. You guys don't live together.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
We have.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I was gonna say, if you guys are living together,
do you think you'd go crazy?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I would live together for yeah, six months a year.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
When we lived.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Together, we just we would wake up and then we
would would rehearse. No show, no show there anything. Yeah,
we just wake up, rehearse, go get lunch, whatever you
get the rehearse, play video games or something.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It was nice, I think. To go back to your
original question, like the like musicianship here in Nashville is
like number one in the country, I think, so that
was like super inspiring but also terrifying. We moved down here,
like I remember, we went like down on Broadway like
noon on a Tuesday when we moved down here, and
like walk into a bar and there's just like this
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guitar player just absolutely shredding, And I was just like
this guy plays at noon on a Tuesday and I
can't even I know, like six chords, Like what am
I even doing here? This is crazy? But it's like
super inspiring and the community here is amazing, like very collaborative,
even like pre COVID. I feel like post COVID, most
most producers and bands are way more collaborative because you
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had like that year and a half weirdness where you
had to be collaborative and people realize how awesome it is.
But the community here is incredible and like whatever kind
of music you're making, there's like unlimited opportunity here. Do
I really believe that?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah? I do think when you first move here, it's
so intimidating, Like you mentioned, somebody's playing like the twelve
o'clock slot at Tootsis and just reds on guitar, Like
you want to go home. But then like I think
you know to your point, you then when you find
your friend group and the writers and the producers that
make the most sense I do feel like it's really encouraging,
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Like it motivates you to want to be the best
and be matter rather than I think, like be intimidated
and move away, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Plus plus Like that guy who's playing on a Tuesday
at noon, if you go up to him and say, hey,
like can you help me out, I'm just like getting
good at he would take the time to help you out.
Like That's the thing that's very different about Nashville is that, like,
I don't think we have the perception of if if
you win, I can't win. I think it's like a
we can all win if we work together kind of
environment here, which is amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, you can say with like producers, like you work
with somebody, you're like, dang, what, like what sound are
using there? He's like, oh, here there, I'll send it
to you whatever. In LA you're like, hey, what sound using?
You're like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I don't know, man, Why why is that?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
In l A?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Like everyone's so guarded.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think that's like except for Gold, not everyone.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
We'll just send you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
The whole session thing. I like his fanger on, Oh
my god, we're gonna have to work with introw Gold.
It is incredible. We like worked at the news so cool.
It was awesome. And then at the end of the
session he's like, all right, well, I'll just like send
you the session. You guys can mess around that. I
was like, okay, like all all the sounds and stuff,
I just like picked through the whole thing and just
like yeah, he's like, here's my playbook exactly. But yeah,
I mean, which is rare, but it's.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's just more competitive out there.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Definitely.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
That has to do with just being more expens have
been harder to survive, I would assume, But I.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Mean I do think I do think there is a
financial aspect to it, because LA is like, you know,
it's twenty eight dollars for a salad out there, right,
And I think, like, you know, that is the nature
of the business that can get a little scary when
you're dealing with the money and it's people our guard
are not revealing their secrets to maximize whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But it is also like I think there's more like
groundbreaking things happening in LA, if that makes sense, Like
there's more like risks that are being taken there, which
is awesome. I love working in LA, Like we go
to La to write all the time, and like I
love that experience. But like in terms of like we
go on a two month tour and then we come home.
It's like coming home to Nashville is so much more,
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is so much better for me than going home to
La if that makes sense. There's like too much going
on there. Like you can't like relax a lot of
times because I don't know, it's just that's just my personality.
I like love Nashville, love coming home. It's like low key,
you can we can work five days a week, no
problem them. Everyone has a house and you can drive
and it takes ten minutes to get there, you know,
Like it's nice.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Absolutely. Well, we got Nightly in the studio. Guys. We're
gonna take a quick break. We got some games, some
new music, questions to ask. We'll be right back. Well,
we are back in the studio, six one five hours podcast.
We got Nightly Boys. And this is one of my
favorite segments to do. It is called rank these five
things without knowing what comes next. What's really interesting about
(19:25):
this is because there are three of you and not one,
you're gonna have to play off each other. So this
I thing is either gonna go like swimmingly well or
crash and burn, crash and burn, and yeah, so just
to warm up, we're gonna get nice and simple here. Okay,
uh ranked these five things. Category is flavors of pie.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I love pie. That's like my ultimate dessert.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Dude, you want to kick it off. Yeah, first one
pumpkin pie.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, here's the thing. You know, you really only get
it a couple more once a year. I'm gonna put it.
I'm gonna I'm gonna regret this. I'm gonna put it
at three. Three.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Interesting, I feel like that was a safe play.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, the thing is, what even better pies are there?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
My head?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, I'm saying, if you're gonna go get pie five times,
one of those times is gonna be pumpkin pie.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I mean definitely.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I never ordered a pie exactly. I love so we
got we got pumpkin pie and the three next up
key lime pie.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Five.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, I agree that was quick from all of you.
Five pie is suckers choice.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I am not gonna ask questions Apple pie.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
John, this is you.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I mean, that's like not super high for me. I'm going, wait,
what do we have?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Three and five?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Three and five. All Right, here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I know now what my number one is gonna be,
So I'm gonna put it at two.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Good choice, good choice.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So it a medalist for apple pie, warm apple pie?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Kind of Nick's crazy with this? Nick does not like
warm with cold ice cream and cold pie?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Nick man, who are you?
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Nick?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Nick? Is? You don't want to go if we go
somewhere and he gets a cookie and it's warm, pissed off?
Doesn't like Isn't that the most insane thing?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You know?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Like a one cookie? You don't want a warm apple pie.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I want to be cooked and then I wants to
cool down and then I'll leave it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Great, crazy Nick? All right, we got one and four left.
Your next category is pecan or pecan.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go four on that.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, the last pop Perry chicken pot pie. That would
have been a curve ball. I didn't throw the chicken
in there. But the last answer was blueberry.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I would say blueberry or strawberry rubarber my favorites.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I do actually like a strawberryrubar but I can
I can get down with that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's actually a great list. I gotta say. We did
a really good job.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Guys. Well, we're just getting started, and we were keeping
it easy all right. Now now we're going to crank
things up a little bit. Rank these five things people
to be your dad? Okay, first up?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
What did you say? Uh?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Who's going first? You go first, John, because I started
all right? Rank these five things people to be your dad?
First up, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, Oh my god, dude, wow.
I mean it's it's one or two spot for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But what if like Adam Sandler comes up. I don't
want him to be number.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
One, That's what That's why I'm thinking maybe it's a two.
Let's go to let's go to be safe.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Bet. Next up, we got Alec Baldwin.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Is it me or you?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's you?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
He's about to go to jail, isn't you don't want
to has a safe play? Yeah? Maybe maybe we stay safe.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Chewbacca Chewy, Yeah, man, I mean would that make me
half Wookie?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Not necessarily?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I mean, he couldn't be my day. He adopted he
adopted me.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I'm just trying to do the math here.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
To go on the falcon I'm gonna go ahead and
just put him at uh. I mean my instinct is
to say one, but I won't do that to you, guys.
I'm gonna say four.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Oh you're gonna go three?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Three years you go, not one. We're just gonna skip
three and go the four.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I thought we did three already, but you chose.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I allow one amendment around. Okay, yes, okay. I really
appreciate the honesty out of this group. So we got
one for five, taken what we gotta we gotta reroll back.
That's great, No, I love that. All right, we got
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one of three. Leaft has Bulah.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Man from Pretty Low.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Already took five. Let's go three.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Then, Oh my god, dude, please be Adam Saylor Please?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
How did I end both times?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You're special?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, you ended the first time you are in the
hot scene. I guess the last. The last one was
unfortunately not Adam Sandlor, but it was Matthew McConnell. Choice.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Alright, alright, alright, I watched him more.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
If we're talking Interstellar though, Oh yeah, he's a terrible
dad to have because he's gone.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
But but that's think about real life, because you know,
the rock would be a little bit of a hard ass.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Right, Yeah, Matthew's going to be more chill chill. Matthew's
going to be almost two chill'd like, Matthew, can I
go out like sneak out with my high school friends?
All right? Right?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I like that list.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, this is the last one, and this is this
is where we get to the expert round. Rank these
five things. There really is no category, it's just things
ranked these five things. First up is a watermelon.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Mmmm.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's high. Let me go.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You just ended, you started, you started, I'm starting, Okay, okay,
I like it all.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I'm gonna end again.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I like when you end it.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Out of anything ever.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, man, think about it. Cheese can be on there.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Three.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Uh, next, next tip, we got evolution.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
The theory of evolution or no evolution itself, micro and
macro just evolution. Man, we're evolving constantly, so it's an
important one.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm gonna go ahead and just pop that into four.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Let's see. Next up we have Star Wars.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Easy, easy, dude, easy, We hold on. We've got three, three,
and four are taking. I just don't know what's gonna
be better than that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
If you don't put this anything, if you don't put
this at number one. I'm just never gonna talk.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
I'm gonna I'm gonna leave one as a wild card.
Let's go to to uh.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Next up, we have the sport of cricket, come on,
I mean a very popular sport.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Where we did go to a cricket game. Once we did,
it was accident hotel.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
We woke up.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Our hotel was in a cricket stadium to where like
you open the balcony and it's the stadium you can.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
We literally woke up and yeah, and we're like, what
the heck we open our blinds is cricket game?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
No way, that's bad ass if you're in like a
suite for like a football game or something.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And that was also the place that we had to
call down to get the AC turned on, right I
think so I was just ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
We called down and we were like, hey, RAC is
not working. Can you help us, like turn it on whatever,
make it higher?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, and yeah, will be up.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
And then we're like, oh, can you bring some more
blankets too.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I was like, just to clarify, you are too warm,
but you would like more blankets. Yeah, we just want
the A C turn on as cold as it will go.
And it's not.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
You wanted to nestle in there. You know that's innovation. Yeah,
that's evolution right there.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
That's evolution.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You should have put it higher.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, what do you think about cricket?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Either I'm gonna pick it as one and I'm going
to leave something possibly great for five, or I'm gonna
make it five and something terribles give me number one.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Now, dude, you got to it is high stakes. But
for that story, it seems like you really love Craig.
I mean, how many times you don't.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Number one watermelon is the next thing is manure? Well,
then we need manure to.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
You put it at four.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, I regret that decision.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I have five and causing controversy amongst the band.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
We're breaking up today. The band's breaking up after this.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Right, and Number one was Arby's. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We love Arby's. Legitimately.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I did a little bit of research about you guys beforehand.
You know, I had this stuff mapped out.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Arby's is definitely number one.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
The best Montreal stick in the game. And I don't
mean in fast food. I mean the best Montreal stick
in the game. Like you're not getting a better Montreal
stick anywhere.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Then let me break off with some facts. Okay, he Arvy's.
First of all, they bought Buffalo Wild Wings.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah they own them now, they own them.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Well, the.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Arby's was the number two sandwich restaurant in the world
for I don't know how long. Subway was number one.
Arby's bought Subway, dude. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What's crazy is they're just cornering the sandwich market. Yeah,
by that play, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
They number two bought number one.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
They book quiz is right out of business, dude.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
At that point, like do you even bother to buy, like,
you know, three four five, you just bought one. You're
already there, right, you're the way I think you're lock
opening every sandwich ever. Yeah, that's fantastic. That was It
was a whirlwind of a rank these five things.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I feel good with all of our rankings on everything there.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, you guys can run back review the tapes and
you know, band, but that's it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Chebacco to what dude, and Chebacco would be a great father, dude,
I know.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, but we put higher. Oh yeah, you're right, right,
that's the point of the game. You don't know what
comes next, right, true. So moving moving into new music
because I want to talk about it. What are you
guys working on new music? Thanks man, That helps a lot.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, we're making an album right now, and we're kind
of in the thick of it. They did our headline
tour for our last album and did like around Thanksgiving
ish last year, and then started writing a little bit
in the holidays. But everybody's kind of, you know, going
(30:21):
back with their families and stuff. So yeah, we're like,
we're in the thick of it. We've got some festivals
this summer and then more tour things planned. But yeah,
I don't know what stage we are in the album.
We're in the like we have we're in the we
have twenty four songs in a dropbox stage, and we're
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going to keep writing more and then eventually whittle those down.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I wanted to ask. I think it's different for everyone,
but how do you guys stay creative in the process
of songwriting and recording.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I think a big part of it is that, like,
in like the stage right now, we're kind of just
like writing a ton of like whatever different vibes and
like like there's songs that make no sense together in
this pile a lot of songs. But then that's like
it's fun because you can just like kind of we're
kind of just in to do whatever phase, which is
easy to kind of be creative in that because you're like, oh,
let's try something with like a rapier verse or something,
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you know, whatever. And then at the end of the process,
when we have like fifty songs, we'll kind of go
back and see what makes sense together and then finish
producing them so that they're cohesive. If that makes sense, Yeah,
it does.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And as it primarily you three in a room working together,
do you guys bring in outside collaborators or how is it? Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
We bring in collaborators sometimes. The last album was like
eighty percent us and if I had to guess, this
one will probably be the same.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But we do.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
We have like a couple of friends that we work
with a lot. It's usually we have brought in a
few new people this time to just experiment and kind
of like bring us outside of our box. But yeah,
we have a couple of homies that we always love
to call and just like over and jam type thing
is there.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I feel like now, particularly with social media and Spotify
and iTunes, there's just like the volume of music that's
being put out. I think it's like it's a little overwhelming, right,
but there's so much great music coming out, Like how
you know, how have you guys dealt with that? Like
is there let me ask you this is there? Is
(32:33):
there any how do you balance the process of recording
something you know, creatively for the love of it, but
also having to balance the fact that like there is
data and streams and like you know, we have to
go viral on TikTok now, right, Like do you guys
(32:53):
look at the numbers or do you like, like how
does like how do you balance I don't think.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
I don't think you can, and like I think you
just have to follow what you're passionate about. I mean
that's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Plus, I feel like this is like the best time
ever to make music. Like I know some people get
intimidated by the amount of music that comes out, but
like never in the history of the world has like
some you know, JABEBROWNI with the laptop and able to
put a song out that ends up going viral, Like
that's really cool. Like the average person can download logic
(33:27):
or able toon and just start making music. Just because
they love to do it, and I think that's like
so incredible and like the fact that there's so much
music coming out, Yeah, that's like a little intimidating, but
also like real music that you create with your friends,
that like you resonate with stands out now more than
ever because there is so much music, if that makes sense.
Like before it kind of was like you had to
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get a label and then they would pay for two
million dollars to you go into the studio and then
they would push you and then like whoever labels wanted
to be successful would be the ones who are successful.
And now it's like literally anyone can do it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Let's talk about that more, because you guys have been
independent for a while, right and there there is also
the major label route, which is a lot of glam
and big check on stuff. But I do think that
being independent is like cool, like it I feel like
it wasn't all that cool five or ten years ago
and it's becoming cooler. That's my opinion. But is there
(34:22):
a reason why you guys have like stayed independent versus
finding a partner and like talk to me about that.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah, I mean, well, we do have we do have
like a distribution licensing partner, yeah to just with help
with all that kind of stuff, shout out, yeah, yeah,
but yeah, we've floated around to different because we've done
the major label thing, and we've done kind of like
fully Indie, and then we've done just kind of like
(34:51):
a you know, distribution thing. But I mean, I think
there's a there's so many factors for one, like, but
it is a ton of pressure and I have seen
it like firsthand, and then I've also seen it with
like plenty of other artists where you're not able to
release songs till you get X amount of presaves like
(35:14):
all that all that kind of bullshit that is happening
right now. So I feel like you're are it does
get to that place where it's like this has to
do well because I'm X amount of dollars in the
hole and it's just not like a good creative place
to work from. So I love it, like I love
(35:35):
being able to be like whatever we want to do
on whatever timeline, in whatever way we can do it,
you know.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Plus it makes it easier like for us to service
our fans in the way that we want to. I mean,
we've had opportunities to go to other labels and stuff,
but we just like love the freedom of Like, hey,
like we love this song, our fans are gonna love
this song. We want to put it out so that
they can hear this song. We want to do it
in a month, like let's make it hap And it's
not like, oh, well, you know we want to release
(36:03):
this song, Well that's not the focus track. This is
the focus track that's going to come out in two months.
And blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know, not
that there's anything wrong with that necessarily. I think it
works for certain artists and certain bands, but like we're
very much a fan forward thinking business, if you want
to say it that way, and like the best way
for us to do that is when we're in control
of what we are doing.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you have the flexibility and
the control, as you said, to be able to be
creative and your release strategies and super serving your fans. Right,
let's talk about that too. Like with you guys, do
have you have really nice loyal fan base, Like people
are showing out at the concerts, We're very buying the merch,
Like I feel like you guys have been able to
(36:44):
cultivate a really strong fan base. I think that's that
is a hard part with so much music and so
many artists right now. So what like what do you
guys do to kind of super serve your fans or
like really connect with them.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
I think, like we're all fans of music ourselves, and
we know what it's like to be a fan of something,
So just thinking about what what would I want as
a fan, you know, is probably like the first step
is like would we think this is cool if our
favorite band did it? You know, like whatever it is,
(37:18):
whether it's something small like getting a you know, we
did a merch drop for Valentine's and stuff and then
all of them had like personalized like Valentines that went
out with it, you know, or whether it's like the
show and the show experience and how like all the
details of that, both like the production and then also
(37:40):
just the venues that we play, like making sure that
they're suitable for the past. So I don't know, just
all that is just looking through the lens of what
would what would we like, you know, and just yeah,
like treating them with like the gratitude and respect that
they deserve, because we would you know, all be working
at RB's and then making music.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
A bad job.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Definitely nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Unlimited Montrealistics.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, if you know, if it wasn't for them, so Righteah.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Also think there's just so many ways for different artists
to just pave their own lane and like figure out
what they want to do with their own music. And
there's like so many different opportunities. It's just fine and
like the things that you want to do to cultivate
your own fan base and like community to like grow
your career, and I just think there's so many ways
to do it, whether it's to label, independent, with touring
or whatever. And I think it's just about finding like
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what you want to do with your music and your
art and your community you're growing to like get.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
There, and like most importantly, like loving what we're doing
personally has always been really important to us. And there's
you know, you know, obviously there's three different personalities here,
but like if we're not like running around the room
excited for a song, like like when we do something
we're like, oh my god, that is so dope, Like
I cannot wait people to hear this, then no one
(38:58):
who listens to any of the music is going to
feel that way, you know what I mean not to
say that we have this like unbelievably massive reach or whatever,
but it's like we love the music we put out.
We love getting together and being like, Okay, we have
the songs. How do we make this an experience live?
Like how? Like how what is the music video?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
What?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Blah blah blah blah? All that stuff is like, And
we're all good at different aspects of that, but it's
like we're very intentional with everything, and I think that
that served us pretty well.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I love that. I love that love that you guys
are equally passionate and fired up about the releases that
you're putting out, because there are a lot of people
that whether it is a deal issue or even like
anxiety of getting caught up in the numbers in this
like online game where you know, I hear people put
out songs and like three months later, like why the
heck did I put out that song?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know what did John Mayer say about like putting about.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Paradise value or something never would have happened if you
didn't put out or whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, it's like you can't be afraid to put music
out that's something that like I feel like we've learned
as like a group of friends in the last couple
of years of like put out a body of work
that you're proud of and then start the next project.
Like it's not because music is so accessible now, it's
not like it doesn't really matter if you put out
something that like I hope that you put something out
(40:14):
that six months later, like why did I put that
song out? Because like we've evolved so much as a band.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Like if you're not
like semi embarrassed about stuff you've put out, then like
you're doing something wrong in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Interesting. So it's like a no fear I.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Mean it's not that there's no fear me obviously before
every release were stressed, you know, yeah, but like yeah,
it's just like something like about the creative process. That's
like you should like as a producer, Like I hear
something I did a year ago, I'm like, dude, I
can't believe that I did that. That is that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I feel like we get better, Like every week was like, man,
the songs we did last week aren't as good as
the songs we did this week, right, Yeah, I mean
that that.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
To me is that that is the evolution of an
artist boosted up. So I definitely get that because at
that point.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You're never going to release a song if you're always
getting better and you're always well, I'm gonna wait tell
my best work, and right, You're always gonna be waiting
for your best work because you're always getting better, So
you're never gonna put anything right.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I think that journey is important, and then I think
on the in the present moment, it's a matter of
putting out the stuff that you're proud of and that
you love, not necessarily the stuff that's gonna I don't know,
maybe superficially change something. I've asked a lot of the
guests that have on this podcast. I'm very curious for
your answer.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
But.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Quick, do it right. How do you guys define success happiness?
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Yeah, I think it's definitely happiness and continued growth, you know,
for me.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I mean for me, it's like I literally hang out
with my best friends every day. I support my family
with like money from like a business that I'm passionate about.
I think it's like easy to to like I to,
you know, see someone successful in another field and be like,
oh man, you know I should have just gone to
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school and become a lawyer, and then I would I
would be happier if I had more money or whatever.
And it's like we I mean, I always say this,
Like John and I we grew up in bands, like
it's what all of our friends did, and like the
people we were friends with were so unbelievably talented musically
that like I if you had looked at our group
of friends growing up, no one would have been like, yeah,
(42:29):
Joey's gonna be doing it professionally, you know what I mean,
No one would have thought that. But like I just
never gave up because it was like my dream. And
I have friends who have great lives who like I
love them very much, but like they gave up on
that dream to like follow something else, which is nothing
wrong with that, but it's like, from my perspective, the
biggest thing is just like perseverance and believing in yourself
and and just taking the risk.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You know, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, I think the second becomes like not fun is
like when not that I don't know, Like just success
is like when you're enjoying what you're doing and you're
able to spore your family. Joe said, that's just that's
successful to me.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Well, we got a few minutes left. We're gonna take
one more quick break. We're gonna be right back with Nightly. Hey, guys,
you're listening to six one five hours podcast. We are
back with the lovely Nightly Guys. It's been awesome getting
to know you. There's just so much good energy, good
vibes this morning, even though it might be early in
the morning, everyone's powering through, whether it's the coffee or
the red bull. We're locked in. I do want to
(43:30):
shout out. We we work closely with a parel company area.
I'm actually wearing their sweats right now. And we like
to do this segment. It's called rapid Fire Questions. We're
gonna wind up sixty seconds on the clock. We'll producer
Mattie's gonna wind that up, and then I'm just gonna
go I'm gonna start. I think I'm gonna go this way.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Okay, And to make sure you end with nick though, I'm.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Gonna yeah, I'm gonna try to end it with a
nick because that just seems to be the things done.
So and we're just we're rapid fire guys. Whatever comes
to mind? These are yes or no questions or like
very simple maybe questions.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
I'm gonna have to close my eyes for this.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Are you getting nervous?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
No, I just have to think.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well, wind up the clock, Nick, close your eyes, and
here we go sixty seconds rapid fire questions? Is water wet? Yes?
On a scale one to ten. How good of a
driver are you? One last thing you searched on the internet.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I actually searched dinner last night.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
If Baldemore offered you a hug, would you accept it? Probably?
Dream collaboration, Chris Martin. Should we have a national nap Day?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Would you rather have a seven day work week every
other week or a four day work week every week
for our mismatch socks? Acceptable? No? Would you rather fight
one horse sized duck or one hundred duck sized horses?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Horse sized duck?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Crazy? If you could have a dinner with an historical figure,
what would it be? Any historical figure? George Washington cover?
And if animals could talk, what would be the rudest.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
A duck?
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Cat bro a duck?
Speaker 6 (45:17):
What you got against ducks? It just seems like they'd
be squawking. They just be squawking, they'd be talking. Yeah, yeah,
ducks would be rude, that's true. Maybe a Canadian goose goose.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, that's why you're in a band collaboration.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, you close your eyes, bro.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Sixty seconds. That was pretty good. Some wild answers.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Driving a ten. I was like, oh, shoot, we just
did the one to five rank and.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I was like, one, yeah, Nick is a really good driver.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
It was funny as I as soon as you said that,
I like double tagged and I heard you guys laughing.
But I'm like, I'm like, we got to keep going.
It's rapid fire questions. But that was good. Yeah, that
was good. You are quick on quick on your feet.
Well we just have uh, I think we just got
a few minutes left. Is there anything else that you
guys are super fired up for this year? I know
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you mentioned you got a lot of tours, a lot
of music, but you know, is there anything else you
guys are working on that just people should know before
U before we end here.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
Yeah, we have like a couple well we have at
least one collaboration that that we've done.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Yeah, we're just really excited to make new music, like
we're so in the thick of that right now that
that's honestly the most exciting thing for me. Yeah, festivals,
vessels that will announce soon. Yeah, international, damn, let's go.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah. Do you guys have a specific spot you like
to play outside of the US.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
We've only done like, well, other than Canada, we've only
done one UK tour.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Run so across the pond and oh that's where you guys,
that's where you discovered cricket. It all makes sense that, right.
I love it well. I wish you the best of
luck with that UK tour. And if you guys are
going to go out and play some cricket, give me
a holler because I'll.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Hit you up.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Hit me up.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
You're a cricket guy.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Now I'll be the cricket guy. I'll be the cricket
guy or the Arby's guy.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Either on you bring arby to the cricket game and
will be best friends.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Armies in the UK.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Who knows. But we got to get on the expansions, Nick,
that's your job.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Get Arby's on the horn, dude.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
They already bought Subway like they can buy the UK.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, guys, thanks for tuning in nightly. Go check them
out and they're on tour. They're playing recording new music
and thanks again guys for jumping in here. I had
a lot of fun and a lot of good laughs,
So thank you all. Yeah, thank you. We'll see you
all next week.
That's actually why I wanted you guys to come on.
The podcast was nothing about music. I just want to
talk about Jilly.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
More of a preserves guy if when being honest.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
But okay, that's just me. Hey everyone, welcome back to
the six one five hours podcast. It's your host, Chris
Rudeger and it's another week here in Music City, Nashville, Tennessee.
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The cool part about this podcast we get to take
a deep dive with Nashville's hottest artists and bands. We
have to learn their stories, talk a little bit about
their songwriting, creative process, and just balancing social media because
it's a crazy world right now. So here's the cool part.
I have not ever met these guys, so in real
time here we're meeting. But this Nashville band is a
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favorite of mine. What I think is super cool is
they're outside of the country space. They're known for their
vibrant indie tunes. They're twenty sixteen. Initial was formed with
the project that came out It's Two Cousins. Then they
brought in a third to the group, and in the
past couple of years they have been crushing it on
the tour. On the tours, on the records. I'm really
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excited to have you guys in the studio the one
and only Nightly. Thank you for having us many man,
thanks for having us man. It was I enjoyed our
this morning. I thought it was hilarious that you and
I went to a gas station at not I didn't
even like. I was just so tired when I woke
up this morning, I like didn't even process that it
was you and we go to gas station and we're
both getting red bulls to feel our day.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
For some reason, I felt like I was going to
see you later in the day. When you walked out
and I walked in, I was like, I feel like
I'm going to see that guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You have that feeling like we you didn't say at
each other.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, I didn't. We just don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I just saw him walking out and I was walking in.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, like I I've obviously followed you guys online, I've like,
you know, seen your show, like I know you, but
I was just like head down on a mission. But
then when I.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Saw you when I got here, I was like, that's
the guy. And I was like, is it awkward if
I don't say anything that I saw you a second
ago or is it more?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know what I mean? It was.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
It's one of those interactions where we both know it happened.
We just got to clear that from the gas station. Yeah,
just had bulls on the brain. Yeah, I love it. Well,
I'm super pumped to have you guys on. I have
been a big fan following you since your start in
twenty sixteen. But I would love to know where, how
did the band form in the first place, and how
did the concept of Nightly come to be.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
It was kind of an accident in a way. So,
like you said, Joey and I are cousins, and we
had been in different bands since we were kids. And
the last band that we were in, we're kind of
doing a lot of like sink stuff at the time,
and then that sort of just fizzled out and we
were in La Or We had booked a trip to
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la like paid for and stuff, and we were just
kind of like, let's go just make some music. So
we went out for I don't even know, it probably
wasn't that long, felt like two weeks. I think, yeah,
maybe two weeks made some music. This is like the
end of twenty fifteen, and we didn't we weren't writing
for any reason. We were just having fun making music
and then left went home for the holidays, came back
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and texted each other and we were like both kind
of saying the same thing where it was like, yeah, dude,
I've been listening to these songs. I think we made
like four or five songs at the time. I was like,
I've been listening to these a lot, Like I think
we should do something, you know. So we did that
and then found Nick and sent them the demos and
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then just had to pester.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Him and loved them immediately.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, no, no response immediately, Nick.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You get these demos from Jonathan Joey. What's your reaction
to the demos?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I was like, these are sick.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He said, these are sick. Let me just not respond
to respond. You went ghost node on.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I got to look back at my text. He had
to make us, you know, wait and want it even more,
you know, because what you.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Did was you were playing hard to get. Yeah, a
little bit little strategic, I don't remember. Yeah. So yeah,
So and you guys are from Philadelphia, correct, Yeah, the
general area, Yeah, like Jersey Side. And then I'm kind
of like Valley Forge gotcha. I'm curious, like, what is
the best Philly cheese sakes?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Okay, this is a heated This is a heated conversation
because you know, everyone says like pats and genos, but
that's like the corporate like you don't, we don't go there.
I we I used to love, Like I would always
tell people to go to gyms on South Street because
that's my But it burned down, allegedly burned down. I
think the mob was maybe involved, but don't quote me
on that anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah you're putting this on the internet, dude.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, you're right. You're right, the mob was not involved,
but yeah it burned down. So I like Iscabibbles too,
which is on South Street, because South Street it's like
a cool area of Philly, like people should see anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sure, that's like where one of the main like venues
is and stuff. So I feel like that's where we're
usually we were hanging out when we're.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Back now just for like playing shows.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But I got to say shout out to Dnick's be
even pork that's in the reading terminal. It's like the
pork sandwiches, like the slept On Sandwich of Philly.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I have not been there. I will say the crazy
part when I went. I did end up going to
gyms and they do just sing where you get it,
Like I thing it's called whiz wet, right, you get
like the cheese and all the stuff on top. But
I've never felt so much pressure and in line to
order so quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Like if you don't order, they'll tell you to get
to that on.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah. I guess it's just the Philly cheese steak culture.
It's like you need to be determined.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I got to tell you, that's just like the Philly
culture in general. Yeah, it's like, was like I love Philly,
but like moving down here, Like I absolutely love living
down here, but it took me, like I sawid, like
three years of being down here to like get used
to the pace, which is amazing. The community down here
is awesome, but it's definitely like a totally different vibe.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Remember when your cousin asked what a chicken cutlet was,
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I think, yeah, he's like, you know, he said what
kind of spices are on the chicken cut? That we
all looked at and we're like, dude, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know, like my god, Nick, you're from Ohio? Yes,
what what? What's the cheese steak culture like in Ohio?
Is it e it's pizza? Mainly tell him tell him
home of home of also home of Arby's. There you go,
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I do like Arby's. We have the meats.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Fun fact handles ice cream started in Youngstown. We would
always go to like the original one.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Grown up. They just put one in Hendersonville. Interesting, So
they're expanding. Did you have anything to do with the
expansion process?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah? Now requests an email every day.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's about it, right, I love it. So Okay, so
you guys are making some demos. You send him a
Nick Nick plays hard a gat and then eventually he's
in like what's the When do you guys decide, Okay,
we're gonna we're gonna actually like record and release this
music and do the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, it kind of happened like it was. Yeah, like
we we had sent those demos around kind of and
we had a couple of like friends and the industry,
and those demos got like circulated within the industry, and
we had started getting a lot of calls from like
labels and stuff who were like, oh, we actually have
to like play these songs live, so we kind of
like went we think.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
We basically yeah, we were like we should probably play
a show and find like I don't know why, but
we were like, we need to find a lawyer first,
I think just because yeah, like stuff was getting sent around,
like we didn't have a band name, nothing released, nothing
like that. And then we played this show, found our lawyer.
Like I just I only knew like one lawyer, and
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I was like, we got to get this guy.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You know he did.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
He did like a bunch of stuff like Kings of Leon,
Paramore or whatever, and like this is the guy. So
we do the show, get a lawyer, and then our
buddies asked if we would open up for a show
at Twelfth Importer at the time when they were doing shows.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Don't know if they are still or not.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, we played that show and it's like presented by
an alternative radio station and a guy just comes up
to us and he's like, yo, do you guys want
to be like the band our band of the month,
Like we'll play your song on the radio like a
couple of times a day and then at the end
of the month, like you'll headline. And so we were
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just like we were like, yeah, yes, we don't have
any music, like like we were playing stuff that we
had been working on, but nothing was out.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. We had we had like demos, they weren't like
finished or mixed or mastered or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, so did you end up sending the demos and
they well, we.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Got it like rushed mixed. Well. Our our friend Keith
who we did the first EP with, he mixed it
and then we got it mastered like that day and
then send it out.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
But it's like, uh, we had to pick a song
so like to be our first song, and it was
like between a couple and so I just texted Nick
and I was like, what song should we put out?
And so he texted He's like, XO was our first
song and and so I'm like and I did it
all like through distro Kid, which is like an indie
like just how you put music on Spotify if you
have no label.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Step one yeah, yeah, step one.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And and then like so I submitted all because it
has to be submitted by like midnight. And then he
texts me back like a couple hours later and he's
like no, no, no, this other song.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And I was like, dude, it's literally we actually never
put that song out. The other song too, Yeah, I
guess we made really well.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I guess XO was a good choice because I turned
out I was a pretty you know, pretty popular track
on that before it's four song EP that you guys
put out of. I do say, like a lot of
people outside of music might not get this, but the
creative process takes a lot of time, right, and like
writing and recording and then deciding on what record you
want to put out. Like you can't rush that process
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for sure, but when you're down to the wire with
a distro kid upload and an indie radio spot I
guess I guess XO is the one. When So after
you guys put that out, did that immediately like kind
of like take off and kind of spiral into some
because that's a great song and I know it's you know,
millions millions of streams at this point. Yeah, so like
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what was the reaction it was?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, it was just one of those times where like
twenty sixteen, I feel like, and seventeen was when Spotify
was like just becoming like the thing, you know, and
so it did super well, got a lot of attention
really quickly. And yeah, and then the radio thing helped
in Nashville because it was getting played all the time.
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So we kind of like quickly made a lot of
fans that I think would normally take a lot longer,
you know.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Then we had to scramble on like the live show,
like what are we gonna do? We had like are like,
oh man, we have three hundred dollars to like get lights.
We're like how were we gonna do that? So we
just like literally bought led strips from Amazon and like converters,
and then we built lighting fixtures out of wood.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I think we spent two hundred and fifty dollars. Took
us like three days like soldered it all together and
then wired it and then programmed it on the computer.
So we had like a light show or whatever. Yeah,
but it ended up turning out like all right, And
that's kind of been like I think a big focus
of this band since the inception of it has always
been the live show and like how we can translate
what we write in the studio to like the live
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performance and like what that looks, like, what colors it
is and all that stuff. So that was kind of
it was like a it was a cool way that
we've kind of figured out that was important to us.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I love that. I love that you guys, you know,
are so passionate about the live show and that experience.
I'm curious because you've said that you made like you
soldered a couple of light stuff. When it comes to
the band, do you guys have responsibilities? Like is somebody
in charge of sort of the production aspect and then
the live show aspect and then the marketing? Like how
do you guys balance that dynamic?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
As? We're actually super lucky. I feel like we're all
really good at different things. Like when it comes to
like the writing process, We're all very involved with most things.
Nick is definitely the most musical out of all of us,
and the most detail oriented. So a lot of time
we'll start a song and like get the bones and
then he'll like dig in and fix things that are
wrong or like change stuff a little bit here or there,
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and then we'll finish the song. But uh, like, yeah,
I mean I love programming live stuff, so I always
end up doing all the live programming. But then like, yeah,
John does you know obviously most of the lyric and melody,
and but we all kind of bounce off the computer
when we're producing, like you know, everyone will sit in
and put something in or whatever. So it's kind of
very collaborative. But we're all very comfortable with each other's strengths,
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if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So you guys never get into any arguments then right.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh, yeah, we definitely do. But yeah, for sure, I
would say ninety nine percent of the time, we like
have a similar vision that we're like, we're really good
at supplementing what needs to be done individually and together.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you you mentioned the you know, support from radio
station Nashville. I think it's super interesting what you guys
are doing because I mean, let's face at, Nashville is
music city, country music, right country radio. There's all this
legacy with the opry. I think oftentimes other bands maybe
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feel like overshadowed by that or hidden by that. But
you guys have clearly navigated, you know, your own lane,
which is outside of country. Like is there a reason
why you guys kind of like set roots in Nashville
versus going elsewhere? And like how is that process of
being a pop act, you know, in the act out
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of Nashville.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
You know, Ben, I think for Joe and I was
also kind of random, like we just decided we would
come down here for a couple months to try it
because there wasn't There was some music happening in in Jersey,
where we were living at the time, but it was
definitely more in the like pop punk like world or
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cover band. I feel like those were kind of the
two of the biggest scenes. And we had done like
some traveling in high school in that band, like one
of those bands, and then just kind of fell in
love with Nashville and we had some family here, like
some other cousins and stuff, so we were like we'll
just save up money, moved down for like three to
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six months, and then just like never left. So but
as far as and then Nick, I don't know what
brought you down here, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean I lived in like Boston, I've lived in
LA for a little bit, and neither of them felt
like right. So then I like went back to Ohio
for like a couple of years, and then I was
like I just got to move to Nashville cause it's
just like I feel like a lot of people were
moving down to Nashville and it just seemed like more
my speed, and like it's just like an easier community
at least for like my personality to like get involved
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in and meet people as opposed to LA, where it's
like not my speed. I feel like, So I don't
know it, just like once I moved here, it just
kind of clicked and I just like made friends faster
in two months than I've made in a year and
a half in LA.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So, yeah, that's a little smaller, right a litt Where
in Nashville do you guys live. I live downtown Donaldson. Okay,
so you guys don't. You guys don't live together.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
We have.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I was gonna say, if you guys are living together,
do you think you'd go crazy?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I would live together for yeah, six months a year.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
When we lived.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Together, we just we would wake up and then we
would would rehearse. No show, no show there anything. Yeah,
we just wake up, rehearse, go get lunch, whatever you
get the rehearse, play video games or something.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It was nice, I think. To go back to your
original question, like the like musicianship here in Nashville is
like number one in the country, I think, so that
was like super inspiring but also terrifying. We moved down here,
like I remember, we went like down on Broadway like
noon on a Tuesday when we moved down here, and
like walk into a bar and there's just like this
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guitar player just absolutely shredding, And I was just like
this guy plays at noon on a Tuesday and I
can't even I know, like six chords, Like what am
I even doing here? This is crazy? But it's like
super inspiring and the community here is amazing, like very collaborative,
even like pre COVID. I feel like post COVID, most
most producers and bands are way more collaborative because you
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had like that year and a half weirdness where you
had to be collaborative and people realize how awesome it is.
But the community here is incredible and like whatever kind
of music you're making, there's like unlimited opportunity here. Do
I really believe that?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah? I do think when you first move here, it's
so intimidating, Like you mentioned, somebody's playing like the twelve
o'clock slot at Tootsis and just reds on guitar, Like
you want to go home. But then like I think
you know to your point, you then when you find
your friend group and the writers and the producers that
make the most sense I do feel like it's really encouraging,
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Like it motivates you to want to be the best
and be matter rather than I think, like be intimidated
and move away, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Plus plus Like that guy who's playing on a Tuesday
at noon, if you go up to him and say, hey,
like can you help me out, I'm just like getting
good at he would take the time to help you out.
Like That's the thing that's very different about Nashville is that, like,
I don't think we have the perception of if if
you win, I can't win. I think it's like a
we can all win if we work together kind of
environment here, which is amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, you can say with like producers, like you work
with somebody, you're like, dang, what, like what sound are
using there? He's like, oh, here there, I'll send it
to you whatever. In LA you're like, hey, what sound using?
You're like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I don't know, man, Why why is that?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
In l A?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Like everyone's so guarded.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think that's like except for Gold, not everyone.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
We'll just send you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
The whole session thing. I like his fanger on, Oh
my god, we're gonna have to work with introw Gold.
It is incredible. We like worked at the news so cool.
It was awesome. And then at the end of the
session he's like, all right, well, I'll just like send
you the session. You guys can mess around that. I
was like, okay, like all all the sounds and stuff,
I just like picked through the whole thing and just
like yeah, he's like, here's my playbook exactly. But yeah,
I mean, which is rare, but it's.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's just more competitive out there.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Definitely.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
That has to do with just being more expens have
been harder to survive, I would assume, But I.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Mean I do think I do think there is a
financial aspect to it, because LA is like, you know,
it's twenty eight dollars for a salad out there, right,
And I think, like, you know, that is the nature
of the business that can get a little scary when
you're dealing with the money and it's people our guard
are not revealing their secrets to maximize whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But it is also like I think there's more like
groundbreaking things happening in LA, if that makes sense, Like
there's more like risks that are being taken there, which
is awesome. I love working in LA, Like we go
to La to write all the time, and like I
love that experience. But like in terms of like we
go on a two month tour and then we come home.
It's like coming home to Nashville is so much more,
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is so much better for me than going home to
La if that makes sense. There's like too much going
on there. Like you can't like relax a lot of
times because I don't know, it's just that's just my personality.
I like love Nashville, love coming home. It's like low key,
you can we can work five days a week, no
problem them. Everyone has a house and you can drive
and it takes ten minutes to get there, you know,
Like it's nice.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Absolutely. Well, we got Nightly in the studio. Guys. We're
gonna take a quick break. We got some games, some
new music, questions to ask. We'll be right back. Well,
we are back in the studio, six one five hours podcast.
We got Nightly Boys. And this is one of my
favorite segments to do. It is called rank these five
things without knowing what comes next. What's really interesting about
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this is because there are three of you and not one,
you're gonna have to play off each other. So this
I thing is either gonna go like swimmingly well or
crash and burn, crash and burn, and yeah, so just
to warm up, we're gonna get nice and simple here. Okay,
uh ranked these five things. Category is flavors of pie.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I love pie. That's like my ultimate dessert.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Dude, you want to kick it off. Yeah, first one
pumpkin pie.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, here's the thing. You know, you really only get
it a couple more once a year. I'm gonna put it.
I'm gonna I'm gonna regret this. I'm gonna put it
at three. Three.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Interesting, I feel like that was a safe play.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, the thing is, what even better pies are there?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
My head?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, I'm saying, if you're gonna go get pie five times,
one of those times is gonna be pumpkin pie.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I mean definitely.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I never ordered a pie exactly. I love so we
got we got pumpkin pie and the three next up
key lime pie.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Five.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, I agree that was quick from all of you.
Five pie is suckers choice.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I am not gonna ask questions Apple pie.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
John, this is you.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I mean, that's like not super high for me. I'm going, wait,
what do we have?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Three and five?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Three and five. All Right, here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I know now what my number one is gonna be,
So I'm gonna put it at two.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Good choice, good choice.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So it a medalist for apple pie, warm apple pie?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Kind of Nick's crazy with this? Nick does not like
warm with cold ice cream and cold pie?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Nick man, who are you?
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Nick?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Nick? Is? You don't want to go if we go
somewhere and he gets a cookie and it's warm, pissed off?
Doesn't like Isn't that the most insane thing?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You know?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Like a one cookie? You don't want a warm apple pie.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I want to be cooked and then I wants to
cool down and then I'll leave it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Great, crazy Nick? All right, we got one and four left.
Your next category is pecan or pecan.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go four on that.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, the last pop Perry chicken pot pie. That would
have been a curve ball. I didn't throw the chicken
in there. But the last answer was blueberry.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I would say blueberry or strawberry rubarber my favorites.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I do actually like a strawberryrubar but I can
I can get down with that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's actually a great list. I gotta say. We did
a really good job.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Guys. Well, we're just getting started, and we were keeping
it easy all right. Now now we're going to crank
things up a little bit. Rank these five things people
to be your dad? Okay, first up?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
What did you say? Uh?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Who's going first? You go first, John, because I started
all right? Rank these five things people to be your dad?
First up, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, Oh my god, dude, wow.
I mean it's it's one or two spot for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But what if like Adam Sandler comes up. I don't
want him to be number.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
One, That's what That's why I'm thinking maybe it's a two.
Let's go to let's go to be safe.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Bet. Next up, we got Alec Baldwin.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Is it me or you?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's you?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
He's about to go to jail, isn't you don't want
to has a safe play? Yeah? Maybe maybe we stay safe.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Chewbacca Chewy, Yeah, man, I mean would that make me
half Wookie?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Not necessarily?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I mean, he couldn't be my day. He adopted he
adopted me.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I'm just trying to do the math here.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
To go on the falcon I'm gonna go ahead and
just put him at uh. I mean my instinct is
to say one, but I won't do that to you, guys.
I'm gonna say four.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Oh you're gonna go three?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Three years you go, not one. We're just gonna skip
three and go the four.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I thought we did three already, but you chose.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I allow one amendment around. Okay, yes, okay. I really
appreciate the honesty out of this group. So we got
one for five, taken what we gotta we gotta reroll back.
That's great, No, I love that. All right, we got
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one of three. Leaft has Bulah.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Man from Pretty Low.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Already took five. Let's go three.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Then, Oh my god, dude, please be Adam Saylor Please?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
How did I end both times?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You're special?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, you ended the first time you are in the
hot scene. I guess the last. The last one was
unfortunately not Adam Sandlor, but it was Matthew McConnell. Choice.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Alright, alright, alright, I watched him more.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
If we're talking Interstellar though, Oh yeah, he's a terrible
dad to have because he's gone.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
But but that's think about real life, because you know,
the rock would be a little bit of a hard ass.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Right, Yeah, Matthew's going to be more chill chill. Matthew's
going to be almost two chill'd like, Matthew, can I
go out like sneak out with my high school friends?
All right? Right?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I like that list.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, this is the last one, and this is this
is where we get to the expert round. Rank these
five things. There really is no category, it's just things
ranked these five things. First up is a watermelon.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Mmmm.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's high. Let me go.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You just ended, you started, you started, I'm starting, Okay, okay,
I like it all.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I'm gonna end again.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I like when you end it.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Out of anything ever.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, man, think about it. Cheese can be on there.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Three.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Uh, next, next tip, we got evolution.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
The theory of evolution or no evolution itself, micro and
macro just evolution. Man, we're evolving constantly, so it's an
important one.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm gonna go ahead and just pop that into four.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Let's see. Next up we have Star Wars.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Easy, easy, dude, easy, We hold on. We've got three, three,
and four are taking. I just don't know what's gonna
be better than that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
If you don't put this anything, if you don't put
this at number one. I'm just never gonna talk.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
I'm gonna I'm gonna leave one as a wild card.
Let's go to to uh.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Next up, we have the sport of cricket, come on,
I mean a very popular sport.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Where we did go to a cricket game. Once we did,
it was accident hotel.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
We woke up.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Our hotel was in a cricket stadium to where like
you open the balcony and it's the stadium you can.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
We literally woke up and yeah, and we're like, what
the heck we open our blinds is cricket game?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
No way, that's bad ass if you're in like a
suite for like a football game or something.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And that was also the place that we had to
call down to get the AC turned on, right I
think so I was just ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
We called down and we were like, hey, RAC is
not working. Can you help us, like turn it on whatever,
make it higher?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, and yeah, will be up.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
And then we're like, oh, can you bring some more
blankets too.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I was like, just to clarify, you are too warm,
but you would like more blankets. Yeah, we just want
the A C turn on as cold as it will go.
And it's not.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
You wanted to nestle in there. You know that's innovation. Yeah,
that's evolution right there.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
That's evolution.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You should have put it higher.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, what do you think about cricket?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Either I'm gonna pick it as one and I'm going
to leave something possibly great for five, or I'm gonna
make it five and something terribles give me number one.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Now, dude, you got to it is high stakes. But
for that story, it seems like you really love Craig.
I mean, how many times you don't.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Number one watermelon is the next thing is manure? Well,
then we need manure to.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
You put it at four.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, I regret that decision.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I have five and causing controversy amongst the band.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
We're breaking up today. The band's breaking up after this.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Right, and Number one was Arby's. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We love Arby's. Legitimately.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I did a little bit of research about you guys beforehand.
You know, I had this stuff mapped out.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Arby's is definitely number one.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
The best Montreal stick in the game. And I don't
mean in fast food. I mean the best Montreal stick
in the game. Like you're not getting a better Montreal
stick anywhere.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Then let me break off with some facts. Okay, he Arvy's.
First of all, they bought Buffalo Wild Wings.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah they own them now, they own them.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Well, the.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Arby's was the number two sandwich restaurant in the world
for I don't know how long. Subway was number one.
Arby's bought Subway, dude. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What's crazy is they're just cornering the sandwich market. Yeah,
by that play, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
They number two bought number one.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
They book quiz is right out of business, dude.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
At that point, like do you even bother to buy, like,
you know, three four five, you just bought one. You're
already there, right, you're the way I think you're lock
opening every sandwich ever. Yeah, that's fantastic. That was It
was a whirlwind of a rank these five things.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I feel good with all of our rankings on everything there.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, you guys can run back review the tapes and
you know, band, but that's it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Chebacco to what dude, and Chebacco would be a great father, dude,
I know.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, but we put higher. Oh yeah, you're right, right,
that's the point of the game. You don't know what
comes next, right, true. So moving moving into new music
because I want to talk about it. What are you
guys working on new music? Thanks man, That helps a lot.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, we're making an album right now, and we're kind
of in the thick of it. They did our headline
tour for our last album and did like around Thanksgiving
ish last year, and then started writing a little bit
in the holidays. But everybody's kind of, you know, going
(30:21):
back with their families and stuff. So yeah, we're like,
we're in the thick of it. We've got some festivals
this summer and then more tour things planned. But yeah,
I don't know what stage we are in the album.
We're in the like we have we're in the we
have twenty four songs in a dropbox stage, and we're
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going to keep writing more and then eventually whittle those down.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I wanted to ask. I think it's different for everyone,
but how do you guys stay creative in the process
of songwriting and recording.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I think a big part of it is that, like,
in like the stage right now, we're kind of just
like writing a ton of like whatever different vibes and
like like there's songs that make no sense together in
this pile a lot of songs. But then that's like
it's fun because you can just like kind of we're
kind of just in to do whatever phase, which is
easy to kind of be creative in that because you're like, oh,
let's try something with like a rapier verse or something,
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you know, whatever. And then at the end of the process,
when we have like fifty songs, we'll kind of go
back and see what makes sense together and then finish
producing them so that they're cohesive. If that makes sense, Yeah,
it does.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And as it primarily you three in a room working together,
do you guys bring in outside collaborators or how is it? Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
We bring in collaborators sometimes. The last album was like
eighty percent us and if I had to guess, this
one will probably be the same.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But we do.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
We have like a couple of friends that we work
with a lot. It's usually we have brought in a
few new people this time to just experiment and kind
of like bring us outside of our box. But yeah,
we have a couple of homies that we always love
to call and just like over and jam type thing
is there.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I feel like now, particularly with social media and Spotify
and iTunes, there's just like the volume of music that's
being put out. I think it's like it's a little overwhelming, right,
but there's so much great music coming out, Like how
you know, how have you guys dealt with that? Like
is there let me ask you this is there? Is
(32:33):
there any how do you balance the process of recording
something you know, creatively for the love of it, but
also having to balance the fact that like there is
data and streams and like you know, we have to
go viral on TikTok now, right, Like do you guys
(32:53):
look at the numbers or do you like, like how
does like how do you balance I don't think.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
I don't think you can, and like I think you
just have to follow what you're passionate about. I mean
that's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Plus, I feel like this is like the best time
ever to make music. Like I know some people get
intimidated by the amount of music that comes out, but
like never in the history of the world has like
some you know, JABEBROWNI with the laptop and able to
put a song out that ends up going viral, Like
that's really cool. Like the average person can download logic
(33:27):
or able toon and just start making music. Just because
they love to do it, and I think that's like
so incredible and like the fact that there's so much
music coming out, Yeah, that's like a little intimidating, but
also like real music that you create with your friends,
that like you resonate with stands out now more than
ever because there is so much music, if that makes sense.
Like before it kind of was like you had to
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get a label and then they would pay for two
million dollars to you go into the studio and then
they would push you and then like whoever labels wanted
to be successful would be the ones who are successful.
And now it's like literally anyone can do it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Let's talk about that more, because you guys have been
independent for a while, right and there there is also
the major label route, which is a lot of glam
and big check on stuff. But I do think that
being independent is like cool, like it I feel like
it wasn't all that cool five or ten years ago
and it's becoming cooler. That's my opinion. But is there
(34:22):
a reason why you guys have like stayed independent versus
finding a partner and like talk to me about that.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah, I mean, well, we do have we do have
like a distribution licensing partner, yeah to just with help
with all that kind of stuff, shout out, yeah, yeah,
but yeah, we've floated around to different because we've done
the major label thing, and we've done kind of like
fully Indie, and then we've done just kind of like
(34:51):
a you know, distribution thing. But I mean, I think
there's a there's so many factors for one, like, but
it is a ton of pressure and I have seen
it like firsthand, and then I've also seen it with
like plenty of other artists where you're not able to
release songs till you get X amount of presaves like
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all that all that kind of bullshit that is happening
right now. So I feel like you're are it does
get to that place where it's like this has to
do well because I'm X amount of dollars in the
hole and it's just not like a good creative place
to work from. So I love it, like I love
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being able to be like whatever we want to do
on whatever timeline, in whatever way we can do it,
you know.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Plus it makes it easier like for us to service
our fans in the way that we want to. I mean,
we've had opportunities to go to other labels and stuff,
but we just like love the freedom of Like, hey,
like we love this song, our fans are gonna love
this song. We want to put it out so that
they can hear this song. We want to do it
in a month, like let's make it hap And it's
not like, oh, well, you know we want to release
(36:03):
this song, Well that's not the focus track. This is
the focus track that's going to come out in two months.
And blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know, not
that there's anything wrong with that necessarily. I think it
works for certain artists and certain bands, but like we're
very much a fan forward thinking business, if you want
to say it that way, and like the best way
for us to do that is when we're in control
of what we are doing.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you have the flexibility and
the control, as you said, to be able to be
creative and your release strategies and super serving your fans. Right,
let's talk about that too. Like with you guys, do
have you have really nice loyal fan base, Like people
are showing out at the concerts, We're very buying the merch,
Like I feel like you guys have been able to
(36:44):
cultivate a really strong fan base. I think that's that
is a hard part with so much music and so
many artists right now. So what like what do you
guys do to kind of super serve your fans or
like really connect with them.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
I think, like we're all fans of music ourselves, and
we know what it's like to be a fan of something,
So just thinking about what what would I want as
a fan, you know, is probably like the first step
is like would we think this is cool if our
favorite band did it? You know, like whatever it is,
(37:18):
whether it's something small like getting a you know, we
did a merch drop for Valentine's and stuff and then
all of them had like personalized like Valentines that went
out with it, you know, or whether it's like the
show and the show experience and how like all the
details of that, both like the production and then also
(37:40):
just the venues that we play, like making sure that
they're suitable for the past. So I don't know, just
all that is just looking through the lens of what
would what would we like, you know, and just yeah,
like treating them with like the gratitude and respect that
they deserve, because we would you know, all be working
at RB's and then making music.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
A bad job.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Definitely nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Unlimited Montrealistics.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, if you know, if it wasn't for them, so Righteah.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Also think there's just so many ways for different artists
to just pave their own lane and like figure out
what they want to do with their own music. And
there's like so many different opportunities. It's just fine and
like the things that you want to do to cultivate
your own fan base and like community to like grow
your career, and I just think there's so many ways
to do it, whether it's to label, independent, with touring
or whatever. And I think it's just about finding like
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what you want to do with your music and your
art and your community you're growing to like get.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
There, and like most importantly, like loving what we're doing
personally has always been really important to us. And there's
you know, you know, obviously there's three different personalities here,
but like if we're not like running around the room
excited for a song, like like when we do something
we're like, oh my god, that is so dope, Like
I cannot wait people to hear this, then no one
(38:58):
who listens to any of the music is going to
feel that way, you know what I mean not to
say that we have this like unbelievably massive reach or whatever,
but it's like we love the music we put out.
We love getting together and being like, Okay, we have
the songs. How do we make this an experience live?
Like how? Like how what is the music video?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
What?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Blah blah blah blah? All that stuff is like, And
we're all good at different aspects of that, but it's
like we're very intentional with everything, and I think that
that served us pretty well.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I love that. I love that love that you guys
are equally passionate and fired up about the releases that
you're putting out, because there are a lot of people
that whether it is a deal issue or even like
anxiety of getting caught up in the numbers in this
like online game where you know, I hear people put
out songs and like three months later, like why the
heck did I put out that song?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know what did John Mayer say about like putting about.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Paradise value or something never would have happened if you
didn't put out or whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, it's like you can't be afraid to put music
out that's something that like I feel like we've learned
as like a group of friends in the last couple
of years of like put out a body of work
that you're proud of and then start the next project.
Like it's not because music is so accessible now, it's
not like it doesn't really matter if you put out
something that like I hope that you put something out
(40:14):
that six months later, like why did I put that
song out? Because like we've evolved so much as a band.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Like if you're not
like semi embarrassed about stuff you've put out, then like
you're doing something wrong in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Interesting. So it's like a no fear I.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Mean it's not that there's no fear me obviously before
every release were stressed, you know, yeah, but like yeah,
it's just like something like about the creative process. That's
like you should like as a producer, Like I hear
something I did a year ago, I'm like, dude, I
can't believe that I did that. That is that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I feel like we get better, Like every week was like, man,
the songs we did last week aren't as good as
the songs we did this week, right, Yeah, I mean
that that.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
To me is that that is the evolution of an
artist boosted up. So I definitely get that because at
that point.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You're never going to release a song if you're always
getting better and you're always well, I'm gonna wait tell
my best work, and right, You're always gonna be waiting
for your best work because you're always getting better, So
you're never gonna put anything right.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I think that journey is important, and then I think
on the in the present moment, it's a matter of
putting out the stuff that you're proud of and that
you love, not necessarily the stuff that's gonna I don't know,
maybe superficially change something. I've asked a lot of the
guests that have on this podcast. I'm very curious for
your answer.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
But.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Quick, do it right. How do you guys define success happiness?
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Yeah, I think it's definitely happiness and continued growth, you know,
for me.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I mean for me, it's like I literally hang out
with my best friends every day. I support my family
with like money from like a business that I'm passionate about.
I think it's like easy to to like I to,
you know, see someone successful in another field and be like,
oh man, you know I should have just gone to
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school and become a lawyer, and then I would I
would be happier if I had more money or whatever.
And it's like we I mean, I always say this,
Like John and I we grew up in bands, like
it's what all of our friends did, and like the
people we were friends with were so unbelievably talented musically
that like I if you had looked at our group
of friends growing up, no one would have been like, yeah,
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Joey's gonna be doing it professionally, you know what I mean,
No one would have thought that. But like I just
never gave up because it was like my dream. And
I have friends who have great lives who like I
love them very much, but like they gave up on
that dream to like follow something else, which is nothing
wrong with that, but it's like, from my perspective, the
biggest thing is just like perseverance and believing in yourself
and and just taking the risk.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You know, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, I think the second becomes like not fun is
like when not that I don't know, Like just success
is like when you're enjoying what you're doing and you're
able to spore your family. Joe said, that's just that's
successful to me.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Well, we got a few minutes left. We're gonna take
one more quick break. We're gonna be right back with Nightly. Hey, guys,
you're listening to six one five hours podcast. We are
back with the lovely Nightly Guys. It's been awesome getting
to know you. There's just so much good energy, good
vibes this morning, even though it might be early in
the morning, everyone's powering through, whether it's the coffee or
the red bull. We're locked in. I do want to
(43:30):
shout out. We we work closely with a parel company area.
I'm actually wearing their sweats right now. And we like
to do this segment. It's called rapid Fire Questions. We're
gonna wind up sixty seconds on the clock. We'll producer
Mattie's gonna wind that up, and then I'm just gonna
go I'm gonna start. I think I'm gonna go this way.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Okay, And to make sure you end with nick though, I'm.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Gonna yeah, I'm gonna try to end it with a
nick because that just seems to be the things done.
So and we're just we're rapid fire guys. Whatever comes
to mind? These are yes or no questions or like
very simple maybe questions.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
I'm gonna have to close my eyes for this.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Are you getting nervous?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
No, I just have to think.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well, wind up the clock, Nick, close your eyes, and
here we go sixty seconds rapid fire questions? Is water wet? Yes?
On a scale one to ten. How good of a
driver are you? One last thing you searched on the internet.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I actually searched dinner last night.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
If Baldemore offered you a hug, would you accept it? Probably?
Dream collaboration, Chris Martin. Should we have a national nap Day?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Would you rather have a seven day work week every
other week or a four day work week every week
for our mismatch socks? Acceptable? No? Would you rather fight
one horse sized duck or one hundred duck sized horses?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Horse sized duck?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Crazy? If you could have a dinner with an historical figure,
what would it be? Any historical figure? George Washington cover?
And if animals could talk, what would be the rudest.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
A duck?
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Cat bro a duck?
Speaker 6 (45:17):
What you got against ducks? It just seems like they'd
be squawking. They just be squawking, they'd be talking. Yeah, yeah,
ducks would be rude, that's true. Maybe a Canadian goose goose.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, that's why you're in a band collaboration.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, you close your eyes, bro.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Sixty seconds. That was pretty good. Some wild answers.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Driving a ten. I was like, oh, shoot, we just
did the one to five rank and.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I was like, one, yeah, Nick is a really good driver.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
It was funny as I as soon as you said that,
I like double tagged and I heard you guys laughing.
But I'm like, I'm like, we got to keep going.
It's rapid fire questions. But that was good. Yeah, that
was good. You are quick on quick on your feet.
Well we just have uh, I think we just got
a few minutes left. Is there anything else that you
guys are super fired up for this year? I know
(46:10):
you mentioned you got a lot of tours, a lot
of music, but you know, is there anything else you
guys are working on that just people should know before
U before we end here.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
Yeah, we have like a couple well we have at
least one collaboration that that we've done.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Yeah, we're just really excited to make new music, like
we're so in the thick of that right now that
that's honestly the most exciting thing for me. Yeah, festivals,
vessels that will announce soon. Yeah, international, damn, let's go.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah. Do you guys have a specific spot you like
to play outside of the US.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
We've only done like, well, other than Canada, we've only
done one UK tour.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Run so across the pond and oh that's where you guys,
that's where you discovered cricket. It all makes sense that, right.
I love it well. I wish you the best of
luck with that UK tour. And if you guys are
going to go out and play some cricket, give me
a holler because I'll.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Hit you up.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Hit me up.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
You're a cricket guy.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Now I'll be the cricket guy. I'll be the cricket
guy or the Arby's guy.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Either on you bring arby to the cricket game and
will be best friends.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Armies in the UK.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Who knows. But we got to get on the expansions, Nick,
that's your job.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Get Arby's on the horn, dude.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
They already bought Subway like they can buy the UK.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, guys, thanks for tuning in nightly. Go check them
out and they're on tour. They're playing recording new music
and thanks again guys for jumping in here. I had
a lot of fun and a lot of good laughs,
So thank you all. Yeah, thank you. We'll see you
all next week.
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