October 10, 2023 • 40 mins
With more than 600 million global streams to date and millions of monthly listeners, this artist has built an incredibly loyal fanbase. His breakout hit, “County Line” is RIAA Gold certified and he just announced a major headlining tour for, “Come Get Your Memory," a 25 track album. Beyond these impressive numbers and fast tracked rise, this is a genuine guy. A dude you just wanted to hang out with. Please welcome on the podcast..... Chase Matthew.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is up guys, Chris, what's up.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Chris Rudides book. I freaking knew he was going to
do this.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
See it's up so hard I almost put I almost
put ten bucks on it that he was going to
do that. I'm not even kidding, and I would have
freak hit. I would have made some money off Matt unbelievable.
(00:30):
We're back on six and five hours podcast. Chris your
degree here, and I'm so palmed. This is a good
friend of mine. I've been wanting to chat with him
for a while. The dude has like hundreds of millions
of streams to date, He's got millions of monthly listeners.
He had a breakout hit, County Line that was Oria
Gold certified, and then he's got his headlining tour right now,
(00:51):
Come Get Your Memory. The album drops and uh, I'm
told now Love You Again is going to radio and
is charting on radio right now. So this guy's freak unstoppable,
but bigger than that. Down to earth guy has a
crazy story and uh just really cares about the community
in Nashville and the people he's around, and so that's
why pumped that he's here.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Please welcome Chase Matthew, let's go there. You go. See
you didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Interrupt me on that intro there, you know, but I
had I thought the.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
First intro was better too, though I really thought it
was cool. Maybe we chop up the first intro and
just run that back, it's like or whatever. Dude, I
feel like you've been traveling NonStop. Man, knows how the
show's been going.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's been good.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean realistically, it's like you know, obviously, it's it's
a lot of time away from home and hard to
keep your head straight sometimes, like just you know, nose
of the grindstone.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But man, like I've got a great team.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
And and uh, we just like launched a whole new tour,
like you said, you know, we've got a new light show,
new set list.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Man. We've been like I don't know, like just incorporating
so much new stuff that's really made it fun. And
like the revamp has just made it that much more impressive.
I feel like too. So if any body has it
been like, come check it out. Chase Matthew tickets stuck home, dude.
You know, it's one thing I've noticed about you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Like even we were talking beforehand and you're pointing out
like the mixing board and some of.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
The gear we have.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I feel like you're a little bit of a gear nerd.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like I feel like you, like like you seem like
you want to be involved with like the production of
your show, like the lighting, and like, oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
That's all I thought about, Like, like I'm like, like
before all of this, like all I ever thought about was, like,
how do I do a live show. I remember studying
how to program a light show and uh, which it's
it was definitely not the industry standard way to do it,
as I learned and progressed and all of this, but
not saying that I programmed the light show because I
have somebody else that does that now and he's freaking awesome.
(02:40):
Shout out Hunter, Shout out Sean, Shout out Scott Cunningham.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
They are awesome people.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
But yeah, like all I've thought about, like from the
beginning when I did my first show, I remember I
needed to have like the an air setup, you know,
like so I could hear myself. And I didn't realize
how much it was gonna cost. But my boss that
I was working for at the time, man, he like
he loaned me money, so I could go buy this
innyer kit, like the whole the X thirty two, the
rack mount, like all the ears, so I would have
(03:06):
everything that I needed. And uh and I remember like
remembering making that investment, knowing that I'm gonna use this
piece of equipment for the future, and like I'm always
trying to stay a step ahead, especially in my shows
and stuff and and touring.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I just bought my first bus. Congratulations, the bus is
looking nice.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I was just talking about I'm gonna wrap it with
something crazy. You haven't figured it out yet, but it's
gonna be wild. It's gonna make you turn your head.
And I just got a new bus trailer too, so
it'll be matching.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
We'll make a mad that's get dude.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
You got to stand out in the bus department, Like
you can't be the you can't be the average guy.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Going on the right lane that no one wants to
give a shit up. Yeah, like I want my like
my my whole goal is to have two buses. I
want to buy a second bus because obviously the team's
gonna grow as the as the business grows. So my
goal is to like have a cool when we go
play a festival or we play a show, like have
a cool spot backstage where we're like set up between
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the two buses, so I have two matching buses, and
then like have like a whole medium area you know,
who knows, Like maybe we'll string up a damn volleyball
court in the middle of the buses.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And shit, I don't, dude, you could even have one.
You could have the business bus, and you could have
the party bus.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know, you already know it's I already know you
already know it's party on the crew bus. Don't party
in my my bus. It's going to say you got
one one for yourself, as you should.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Dude. I love that though.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I have said, like I've come out to some of
your shows, and I do think.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Like it's you can tell that it's very like thought out,
you know, strategic, like you actually really care about the
process of your show, which I'm not saying other artists jump,
but there are a lot of people that are kind of more removed,
like just higdo press the lights kind of thing, And
I feel like that's one of the things that has
really stood out to me about your show is that
you like you cater, the show, the lights, the set
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list to like make it a unique experience and in particular,
like even seeing you at CMA Fest, dude, like you
have some real, real loyal fans that just like right,
Chase Matthew, and it blows my mind. Dude, you're putting
asses in seats man, Like there are a lot of
people that aren't.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You're doing it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You're right, I mean I've seen it, And that's one
thing that I like to study. Like I study my business.
I study the analytics as much as possible at least.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
When I can.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know, same thing with the show as well, you know.
But it's like I have noticed that, and I think
it has a lot to do with like my fan
base coming from the independent side, you know, Like I
built a lot of this, like most of it like
on my own, like from the beginning all the way
back to Dude, I used to sell my truck, bro
I used to sell my truck to like pay for
(05:36):
music videos or like to do shows, and then when
I would make the money back, I would buy my
truck back. Like it's all about investing in yourself and
like I feel like a lot of artists are not
hands on enough in their career. Once they get to
you know, a little fame and people start offering, oh
I can help you, they just start handing out, letting
other people do the jobs. And sometimes and I've caught
myself doing that sometimes, but like, man, sometimes they just
(05:58):
have to circle back around do it the way I
wanted to be done. And I feel like that's what
makes us creative as artists one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Dude, you'r you got to invest to continue to grow,
and you got to be the woman you're at You're
at the helm, you know, you're the one calling the
shots here.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, the other people. It's always got to be that way. Yeah,
it has to be.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, that's crazy this you you were you were selling
off a car.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I still have the truck too. I bought it back,
Like how many times you think you like, did you finish?
Six times?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Really?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Six times? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I could show you, like where I signed the dash
or not the dash the center console on the truck
because I thought I was never going to see it again,
like a couple of times, and it's still fading.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It is still there.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And I'm actually working on like documenting a couple of
my vehicles right now and doing like a series of that,
so which I have a pretty cool car collection, at
least for me, I like to say it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, I bragg in my car collection. I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And that's like my other passion too. So but that's
what my job was was.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I was a ATV mechanic, so like I wasn't going
to ask what you were doing before.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I had a feeling it was in cars because I
feel like every time you, like when I do see
your pond, I was somewhere, I feel like it's always
like you always got your different truck and you got
like something new on your truck, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Like, yeah, no, but it's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But you're leaving out the part where it's like where
I pull up and I park and then it's like
smoking or like packing oiling ship.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, you leave out that para out the part where
you had to get some maintenance on us.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, you're doing it yourself, I'm sure you. I mean
you got that background.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, I mean yeah, And then sometimes it's cooler to
drive something old than like drive something new, you know,
Like I remember my first time that I did my
I did my Opry debut in March, and like being able.
I remember deciding. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna drive
my my sixty six. I've got a Mercury Park Lane convertible,
and I was like, I'm going to drive this to
(07:41):
to the opery.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I made a halfway down the road, the transmission went
out like completely, like it was just like done.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I still haven't got to mess with it much. But
was that before your operative? You?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, it was. I was on the way there. Did
you just so you just left the starry? I got
to show. I'll tell you what I did.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I was at I was like across the street, like
like a couple like doors down from O'Reilly's.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So I went in.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Was it a Rise or AutoZone one of the other.
I was, yeah, AutoZone. I went in there and got
some uh, Lucas oil, the transmission stop slip fix and
which I love Lucas hole because of this, And I
put it in the car and then let it sit
for a second run like the pumps get going, and
I made it back to the house.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So I got back to house.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Then I got in my new car and grove But
you know how it goes.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
That's wild, dude, I was just picturing like you and
the guys just like pushing this like into the Grand
all the Opry parking lot, like you know, the producer
comes out like, yeah, we got five minutes your.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Lot, Like that's what it felt like, to be honest,
like when I finally got there.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But uh, dude, and congrats on making that ground oper daytime.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It was so much fun too. And like stranding in
that circle is crazy, dude. It's like there's so much
history there and you can feel it like you've been there,
you know, It's like it's wild. It's amazing, dude.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, I mean your journey over the past couple of
years and be on that is very very impressive. It's
been amazing just to get to know you and follow you.
But I do want to talk about a little bit
about you know, kind of just your upbringing and how
you got to where you are. I mean, you know,
life certainly hasn't always been you know, certainly easy.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It sounds like you know, and.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I remember your vocal and a couple of articles I
read about you know, some drug addiction and what was
going on. I mean, how did you know how how
is music you know helped you through that well.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, I think we've all got ups and downs
in life, like sure, and I don't and I don't
ever want anyone to think that, like I want special
attention because of what I went through, because it's not
about like what you went through or or or what happened.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's about what you make of it. And that's what
I learned through all of it. Really.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Man, back in twenty seventeen, specifically, it was it was
a pretty rough year for me, and I dropped out
of high school sophomore year and never went back and finished.
I tried to do the homeschooling thing for a little
bit and just never.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I didn't. I didn't care enough.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I just And it's sad to say, because it was
not a decision that I recommend anyone doing. Yeah, but
I remember beating myself up for about four or five years,
just like, man, I want to go back and finish,
like and then here recently, you know, with the music
taken off, I've realized that like, if I wouldn't have
done that, I wouldn't be where I'm at today because
(10:24):
when I was in my room, depressed, feeling like I
had no social life because all of my friends were
graduating and seeing all that happen and just over the
years and like I realized that I vented a lot
of that through music and found myself and found my
sound and who I was. And yeah, man, twenty seventeen
though was tough. My best friend passed away. He's from
(10:48):
out here in Nashville as well, which you know, I'm
a native. I'm from here a little bit north of town,
Middle Tennessee. Really I went to well, it's like eight
different schools growing up, so like I just try to
just say Middle Tennessee in Nashville because like it's hard
to tell everybody gallots in Hendersonville there.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
But yeah, man, that was my best friend's name was
a mod and I was name tattooed right here in
a ford Ford logo. He was a big Ford guy,
so I have his name in there. But when he
passed away, it was a lot of scandalous shit was
happening around all that and it was just like a
really emotional like roller coaster for me. And uh, I
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remember venting a lot through the music. Man, it just
kind of like I really got through it like that.
And yeah, my dad also moved back to New Mexico, which.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Is where he's from.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And my mom and dad met like through music kind of,
my mom and my dad. My dad played like Printer's
Alley and worked in Branson and like all these places,
and my mom did like was a singer and doing
like Patsy Clown impersonations and like bad Way shows and
stuff like that. So I come from a musical background,
a very musical family, aunts, uncles, grandparents, everything, cousins. They're
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all musically talented, which I thought was normal until I
grew up and realized none of my friends family everyone's
parents can sing, right, And back to what I'm saying though, man,
like my my mom and dad, my mom's kind of
always been out here. My dad was always in New
Mexico until I was born, and so you know, he
stayed in Nashville to raise the youngest. So when I
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turned nineteen and all that stuff happened, Man, it was
kind of a rough time and rough timing really for
everything to happen, because my dad was going through a
divorce and I'd always told him, man, like you always
talked about back home growing up, back on this back
home that I was like just moved back to New
Mexico and I'll meet you there and I've got that
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on my arm to the New Mexico Zia. Yeah, in
the five oh five minutes. That's my other half.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Of my heart.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
My dad's there, My whole dad of my side, my
whole dad's side of the family's there.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And uh so you know we got to go back.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been back a lot here recently
and visiting and building relationships with family members and stuff,
and so yeah, that happened. And then like my girlfriend
bro at the time, like we we just broke up
and like caught her sleezing around like pretty much.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Like just the combination of things.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But like obviously the girl problems didn't way up to
losing my best friend or my dad, you know, but
uh we figured that out, and yeah, man, everything's back
to normal now.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know. We're learning how to live with everything differently
every day. It's all about adapting.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And uh yeah through that whole process, I just learned
how to make music, man, and and kind of got
me here today. I wrote a song called Nashville Crazy
that really changed everything. And I have another tattoo for that,
Nashville Crazy, and that's like my I'd say it's the
song that showed me like to believe in myself because
I was making rap music and like, honestly music that
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was just trash, like my music kind of sucked.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And uh, but again, it's just about finding your sound.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And wrote nashvillel Crazy and everybody in town shared it
and got a lot of love, and uh, man, it
was crazy, dude, did I mean? I can only imagine. Man,
I'm sorry to hear about my friend. And but again,
but again, again, you don't got to say sorry because
it's we all go through stuff like that. I feel
like sure most of us now around our age, like
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we've all lost somebody that was close to us, Like
we know what it's like to experience loss, and so
the conditions on which I lost him was not good.
But that's a whole nother conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
So right, Well, you mentioned that in the midst of
all this you start writing and recording music as a
as a way to cope express yourself, and Nashville Crazy
was kind of the first song you said that made
you believe in yourself. What was it about that song
that made people give you the confidence to be like, yeah, man,
I'm gonna I'm gonna really do this.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, well, so I firmly believe in something. This might
be off topic, but like I firmly believe so every
relationship I've been in, like with a girl, I uh,
because I've never been in a relationship with anything other
than a girl. But this is cut. So I firmly
believe like every every Then this might be off topic,
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but like I firmly believe that every time I've been
out of a relationship like with a girl, I always write,
like a hit song, it's weird, it's like all and
not like I hit. I guess you could say like
that maybe that's the wrong wording for lack of better words.
But a song that changed is something like or it
gives me some more momentum towards the right direction of
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my goals and dreams. One of those was Nashville Crazy.
I just went through a breakup with this girl and bro,
it was like the most toxic thing I'd ever been
through my life.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And this was like twenty nineteen, so like I'm still
healing from all this other crazy crap that was going on,
and then like that and that the picture and you're
like what though, Yeah, bro, Like and I'm not trying
a bad mouth at all, will never say her name,
but yeah, man, it was wild. I picked up I
picked up my laptop, sat it down, and started going through.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Like beats on like beat stars.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Bro I found this guy named boch Beats, So you
know who I'm talking about. I have no idea, So
it's Bacchbeats dot com. Shout out box shout out shout
out like yeah real talk shout out bock Beats because
this dude is one of the only guys other than
like Jake Angel that I know of which Jake shout
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out Jake Angel to one of my great homies. But
block Beats made this instrumental and I found it on
beat Stars and I started writing this song. I paid
forty dollars for the least like the cheapest one because
I had no money, like and barely paying rent on
this house. I was producing music for other people, like,
trying to, like, you know, do everything at the same time,
and finally produced a song for myself and it just
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went crazy bro Like. It obviously didn't go as big
as County Line or any of the other ones, but
it was one that showed me like, as long as
you have drive and you have motivation and like a
reason to write something cool, you'll do it. It's not
a heartbreak song either, it's actually a love song. But regardless,
it's a song that changed everything.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
See they say breakups aren't aren't good for anything, They're
good for something.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Bro, breakups are great, my boy Joe Tyle. Ask any
of my homies that have Like I tell all my
friends this. I'm like, as soon as you and your
girlfriend break up, you're gonna write a hit, right and
like it happened, like it happened for a couple of
my friends. And like I and I hate speaking that
into existence because I don't think negativity brings out good things,
but like it definitely changes things. Share on that and
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you got your buddy box beats be like beats man,
shout out bos shout out box. Shout out this girl,
because look, you got your career started. Yeah, shout out
to all whether she likes it or not, shout out
them exes. I swear this is the social media post
right here. It's like, yeah, shout out to all my exes.
I love you so much. Like thanks for oh this
cameraray there it is. Shout out to all my exes
for giving me great inspiration for all these songs. I
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still love you you and uh, I hope you're enjoying
dating your cousin.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And we'll be right back podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Unreal, Uh dude, So you put out this song, you
keep you keep rocking and rolling, and then you put
out You get on social media and you put out
the song. I remember I had seen some of your
stuff beforehand, but when I really got hooked on the
Chase Matthew wave was when I think we all did,
which was County Line. Yeah, talk to me about that
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journey to because that song blew the frick up.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, man, it was crazy. So I had this again
another girlfriend. This is girl number two.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I'm gonna just if you just had a little corner
of the girls we talked about today that aul the.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I had this girl.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Man, we were together for a minute and uh wild
how we got together. I kind of fell in love
with the bartender, and uh, I just I wrote a
song about a real scenario. Everything in it's like literally
what happened in County Line. And I was just sitting
in my bedroom, man, like in a like over here
in like a corner kind of like this and like
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had my desk set up with my little twenty twelve,
two hundred dollars MacBook Pro and like a fifty dollars
interface I wrote into one a microphone and a pirated
version of Logic.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's the setup. Yeah, And I wrote a song and
recorded a song that was like changed everything.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Man. I sat there and wrote it by myself. And
like a lot of my songs, I've solo wrote. And
I find a lot of pride in that. I love
working with other writers and whatnot, and but I really
my core has always been just writing it by myself.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And that's a testament to you as a writer, dude.
I think there are a lot of people and co
writing's great Nashville, and you mentioned, you know, you have
a lot of writers on your tracks, but the fact
that you can write, you know, stuff that's as good
as it is by yourself is a testament to you
as a songwriter.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It's cool, man, But yeah, dude, I working with other
writers though, too. I've met so many like like extremely
talented people in this town since I kind of like
started working with Warner and uh uh dude, it's it's
been it's been wild.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's been a hell of a ride, dude, Like it's.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Insane, but yeah, man, County Line took off and the
way it did. Uh I didn't believe in like the
whole TikTok thing for the longest time, and a lot
of us don't. A lot of us did it right,
like it was kind of this thing like oh, that's
that's funny, like whatever, like, but they said the same
thing when streaming came out.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You know, we all said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So like, I, uh, I had a manager and I've
been begging this guy to manage me for years, and
uh finally talked to him into doing. His name is Lloyd,
but everybody calls him Big Snap and Snap and bro
uh Snap has been in like the underground rap world
and uh like all in all areas urban world of
(20:55):
like rap and hip hop and stuff. And I finally
talked him into managing me, and uh, I showed him
what songs I had, I was sitting on and what
I was working on, and he's like, listen, man, I
know you think this TikTok stuff is some bullshit, but
just post.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
This video right here.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And I just got done recording an acoustic version for
County Line. This was before I ever put it out though,
So I was gonna I was gonna drop the acoustic
then drop the full version. So I took the acoustic
video and then I put the studio version, like full
band version, over top of it, and then I uploaded
it to TikTok. Like he asked me, He's like, dude,
just post it. Like if it doesn't do nothing, whatever,
we'll try it again. Yeah, I'm not kidding you, Chris.
(21:38):
I posted this video on TikTok, went to work, came
back home, opened my phone up, and I had seven
hundred and fifty thousand views on like my seventh video
i'd ever posted on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And the next week the whole sound went viral.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So like it's easy to make a video go viral, right,
anybody can get the clickbait, but like making.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
A sega viral, yeah, takes work, bro, And it just
kind of happened. And so I had to learn.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And again I've always been like trying to stay ahead
of the curve. So like I started studying like what
people were reacting to and what they weren't, and like
what was working on TikTok, and like what was inside
the guidelines and outside of the guidelines and like and
and we've just managed to grow it tremendously and it's
gone on to be my first gold record. I just
found out shout her adulations to my friends that just
(22:28):
told us, God, the song just went platinum. So platinum.
You hear that platinum independently? Yeah, see, that's unbelievable, dude.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I also want to talk about Tennessee Boys, because Tennessee
Boys are having a moment right now.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You know the man Jelly Roll. He's a local guy too.
What's your relationship with Jelly?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Like, do you guys? Are you guys? Because he was
in the rap game too.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, you guys are kind of not many people
that really grew up in Nashville are doing it, and
he's one of them.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So dude, I mean I grew up listening to Jelly's
music and hell, I was live on TikTok last night
like listening to them, like the old Jelly songs. Man,
One of my favorite ones is uh, fall in the Fall,
and I think, yeah, fall in the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
He's only falling the fall.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, dude, like being from here, everybody
kind of knew who he was and what he did,
and uh, it's cool to see him bridging that gap
now and building that independent fan base fan base and
then like going for the bigger picture. And that's so
cool because I feel like I feel like the industry
is starting to realize too, Like social media.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's the new thing, it's the new standard, same thing
with streaming. Like obviously radio still runs so many things
and and it's still a dream of mine to be
on radio, and and uh with all of us as well,
and like it's so cool to see like Jelly getting
that opportunity to bridge that gap for not only himself
but everybody, and and it's really cool, man, He's setting
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the new wave and the new standard for all of us.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I love it, dude, And I think I think you're right.
I think it's cool to see people are waking up.
It's not to say that radio isn't a factor, not
its streaming as a factor, but that the two can
merge and blend together.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And Jelly's crushing it on socials.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I can't get off my TikTok without seeing the kid.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And then I go on turn on my radio when
I'm driving home and there's jelly like and dude, I mean,
let's talk about you, because that shit's happening for you
as well.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I want to talk about bro. I mean, dude, so
you know album comes out? How many songs are on
the album? Twenty five? R twenty five and come get
Me a Memory and just dropped and dropped and you
got a song right now I Love You again.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's going on country radio. Yeah, Like it's crazy. How
does it feel to really be living the dream?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
It's it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I don't know. So it's like it's like this, I'll
never have expectations because it never feels like what you
think it's going to feel like.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'll tell you what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It feels even better than I could ever imagined, like
to be able to to turn on your radio in
your hometown and like get the videos from your friends.
I was just texting some friends of mine about this
the other day, Like, there's no way to explain. We
used to listen to the radio sitting around the bonfires.
I couldn't imagine if my song would have came on
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the radio back then, you know, when we were dreaming
about it, and now it is and so like, for example,
last night, we had a bonfire in my house. I
invited some friends that we both mutually know, and man,
we just talked about it like it wouldn't be crazy
if my song came on the radio right now bam
there and we were like, oh my god, like it
was crazy to hear it. So I got to hear
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my song again on the radio last night, and shout
out to Nashville and country radio for believing.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
To me, it's it's a dream come true. Man, that's wild, dude.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I love to see. I love that you're doing the
same stuff that you were doing years back. Man, just bonfire,
listen to radio. Only difference is your boys on the beginning,
boys on the big dial. Now man, we're doing it.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I mean, the album Top Down is fantastic, dude. It's
got so many great songs, you love you again being
one of them. And I'm really pumped to hear that
you're now going on your own headlining tour.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah yeah, how many dates are you doing?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Lord, I wish you wouldn't ask me.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Now. I gotta look all right, now, I gotta factor.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
All I know is when I looked at when I
looked at it, I knew that it was a big tour,
but like, you got a lot of dates, you got
a bunch of different cities. It's really cool to it's
really cool to see you playing and doing and your dude,
you're pushing tickets.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Man, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Let me ask you, what's what's one city that you
either maybe you have played or you haven't played, that
you're really.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Looking forward to on this tour? Oh? Man, well this
is so this is actually like my fourth headlining tour.
But like, I think what's going to separate this one,
especially visiting new cities that haven't been to. It's probably
gonna be some of the country thunder shows. Those are cool,
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but like, man, where's that one place we're going to?
Because we were We sometimes me and the guys lookt
in the bus and we'll like look at the venues
before we get there, just to like see what we're expecting.
There was one that we just played at though that
was insane. Oh Mishawaka. It was Mishawaka, Colorado. Yeah, Mishawaka
like uh Amphitheater or something, but dude, it was crazy. Bro.
(27:23):
They had like this big like carved out wooden eagle
out of a tree, bro and then like this crazy
metal like architecture, like I don't know what it was,
like this big like fly woman that was made out
of metal. It was like crazy looking in the stage
as wild, and it was in the mountains and there
was a river running directly behind the stage real and
like dude, every time the music would go, you know,
(27:45):
after we would end a song, you would just hear
the river rushing like and they've got like lights shining
on the water. Bro.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It was It's it was the crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I would totally go back there and watch a show.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Is it and is it outdoors? Like is it that? No,
it's yeah. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Red Rocks has that same feel. It's not like that,
but like it's just as cool. And I still haven't
seen Red Rocks, but I could only imagine, you know, dude.
I mean Red Rocks is like the cop out answer
that everyone says, like, oh, what benue do you want
to play? But then you get there and you're like, yeah,
it's Red Rocks.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's just that cool.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I always wanted to play what's it called.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Coyote Joe's Yeah, Kyote Joe, Yeah, in uh Carolina, Yeah,
Kytie Charlotte. Yeah, I always wanted to play there, and
I remember the first time I played there, there was like, dude,
probably like almost three thousand people there. Yeah, and it
blew my mind. And then we just announced that we're
going back there in February. Dude, I might track it
out and come to that show. You know, I might
(28:45):
have to, dude, An, I'm an easy traveler, man, I'll
do that ship. And Hey, also your Nashville show that
you played, because you played the Nashville show, you.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Know, around around the time this album was dropping.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I have never seen so many people rout in on
the sky deck and Fifth and Broadway and people are Dude,
people are having a blast singing word for word on
your songs. Again, Man, you got this loyalty and Nashville
showed out. How did I feel to play like a
hometown show and have that, yeah, that level of support.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That was my first Nashville headliner, like downtown Nashville headliner.
I've done headliner shows at our dive bars around town,
our little honky tonks like outside of town, Silverado, Cahoots,
But that one, you know, that was after the bubble, man,
after everything really happened, and I remember sitting with my
managers and we were like, okay, like, how do we
(29:38):
go all out for the Nashville show for Skydick. And
that was that was almost a year today from today. Actually, yeah,
the twenty third of last year. Yeah, so four days,
four days from now, mark exactly. Yeah, I remember it
was in the fall last year.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We did h We did a week of rehearsals for
that show. We brought out video walls, multiple guests, Megan
Morony hating Kaufman, hate Mason Horn. Yeah, but yeah, dude,
that that was insane and it felt amazing man to
see see the hometown people, people I went to high
school with, people I haven't seen it years. We had
like I think somewhere around two thousand people packed out
(30:15):
on that rooftop.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
It was insane.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
They still tell me it's Skydeck. I went there a
couple of nights ago to see Blackstone Cherry. Yeah, and
they and the staff there still tells me they're like, dude,
that was still one of the crazy shows you ever had.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I wish that maybe they do, but I wish they
they had the leaderboard where they could put like, you
know of like coolest shows that.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
This wouldn't be the coolest, so it wouldn't be the coolest.
Jelly Roll did this one.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, I went to it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Jelly Roll did this one with CMT there. They did
like a I think it was like The Hot twenty
Countdown or some some some kind of series they did
on it. But Jelly did a show there and it
was like all the military and like, uh, maybe it
was the Marines. I don't know, but there was like
a huge amount of servicemen and women there and bro,
(30:59):
it was fricking rowdy. It was the craziest and that's
what made it cool. It was cooler because of that.
Like obviously I had a bunch of lights and production
and stuff, but but man, screw all that, like the
love that was there, like and the love he was
showing to those people that atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, the environment, I get it, dude, that's awesome. Well,
Chase Matthew's got an album out come and Get Your
Memory and Love You Again, which is the single that
is on country radio, is crushing it. He's got a
tour all throughout the fall. Dude, You're crushing it and
I just love to see I love to see it
paying off. For somebody that's so hard working. I know
(31:37):
how much you put into this. The other thing I
want to talk about too.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Is you.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
You love to collaborate with people. I see you're always
bringing your friends on the road. Yeah, you know, I
think that was instilled from you know, when you were
first starting out getting the opportunity from people. But now
I see that you're bringing a lot of like these
up and comers out on the road with you, And
I want to shout out you for that because I
know a lot of people mutual friends of ours that
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are so pumped that they get to be on the
road with you or.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
They get to you know, well do I mean, like
I'll stop you there.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Like I met so many cool people just coming and
visiting the six one five hours a couple of times
and making content and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And like one of those people is Graham.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah. And uh yeah, yeah, Bailey, you know. I me
and Bailey go back a little bit. Yeah, And I remember,
like we had that conversation that day. I remember the
first day Bailey Zimmerman played Rock in the Heart, Rock
in hard Place, like he played it for us the
demo at Dude.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I was trying to find that video there's a video.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I've got it, you got it?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, you got to send that shit to me because
it's cool.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It's you, me, Zimmy, and Graham and there's my one
or two others and he's like, hey, guys, I wrote
this song.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, yeah, what do you think? I ain't gonna lit?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Bro? Like I I honestly I didn't hear the potential
in it, but like I see it now, it makes sense,
you know what I mean. Not that I doubt the
kid at all, Like I just I thought that, like
I heard what every time I heard Bailey's voice, always
heard more of, like a like a grungy rock thing.
What she's doing more of now, which is super cool,
but like rock and hard places like the heartbreak anthem
of the year.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Bro, Like it's crazy. I mean it's it's up for
the song of the year and he's been working hard
as O.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well yeah, man, I mean it's fun dude, you know,
I mean, you know what it is. But I love
That's one thing I just wanted to.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Shout you out on is I love that you you
care about you know, you're real, you care about the
people around you. You believe in everyone lifting each other up,
and I think that's you know, I think that's why
when I go around town, I hear so many other
artists that are so appreciative.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
View.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Of course they're fans of your music, but they're all
just fans of you as a human being.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I love to appreciate that. Thank you to whoever said that.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, right, well, hey man, we got we got a
few minutes left. We got to do one thing that
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Speaker 1 (33:53):
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Speaker 3 (33:54):
They got some great country Western apparel, and we like
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you just shout out whatever comes to mind. So crank
that clock sixty seconds.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
What is a dream collaboration for you?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Jesse Murpher, Jelly Row, I love Malone. There that's the one.
How about all three favorite? What would be a dream
venue for you to play?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh okay, we already said Red Rocks on Bridge Sun Arena.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
There you go, hometown show in Nashville. Are you a
cowboy hat or baseball cap?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Oh? Man, I can't find a cowboy hat big enough
to fit my head.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I love that talker or texter both FaceTime your face time.
I think you have face timing before I've seen that, right.
What's your what's your favorite sport?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh, dude, the Titans. I love soccer. I got y'all
all right, unbelievable. I'm sitting here like what, I can't swim.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I can't swim either.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Oh my god, dude, if you can only play one
Chase Matthew song for the rest of your life would.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Be Rainy Days, Rainy Days, rainy days.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
There you go, all right? And favorite fast food place?
I think I know the answer cook out Really yeah,
I thought you were gonna say Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
T Bell is it? But like cook out?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I like the heartburn I get from cookout a little more.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There you HiT's a little harder man, just fired up
to get that heartburn.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Unbelieved. I love it exactly right. And dude, last one,
what's your cowboy boot too shape?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
What do you go for all day?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah? Dude, those are some nice looking to me. Some
of those man Ariots send Chase some of those snip toes.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That is sixty seconds presented by Aria with Chase Matthew.
You did a great job and the best part is
he fooled me like you in a weird way. I'm
now on the edge of my.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Seat not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I do that joke too much, honestly, Like.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And it's funny because you know, the Titans just won
the game the other night, at least I think they did.
I'm really not into sports, like no, like, honestly, I
just I just don't like.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I just never have been.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Not that I have against it, but yeah, I guess
I guess so, and I guess I could be what
it is. But like, realistically, I say that joke way
too much. Chill out because I've said it on camera
multiple times. No, I love the end.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
You are right, the Titans did win. Shout out to
the Titans and their kicker to the Titans. Hey man,
we got just a few minutes left. And the last
thing I want to talk to you about is you're
very vocal about this in your posts on stage, your
relationship with God, relationship with faith. I watch you at
CMA Fest and I you know, I heard you talk
about it on stage and it was incredibly moving. Your
(36:37):
words and just just your connection with with your faith
is remarkable. Talk to me a little bit about about
what that means to you.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, yeah, so uh.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I mean, man, like I know I wouldn't be in
this position, like I wh need to be sitting this
this this awesome couch in this room with you and
awesome people, like if it wasn't for what God's done
in my life. And I will always, always, always give
him the credit for that, because number one, he died
on the cross for us, and I ain't none of
us perfect. And that's something I was taught at a
really young age. I come from a long line of preachers,
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and my grandfather was a preacher. My great grandfather was
a preacher, my great great grandfather, like the list goes on,
and they built multiple churches and congregations all over the
all over the nation. So I remember when I started
doing music, and you know, I guess my family kind
of expected me to maybe follow the path of being
a preacher, but I didn't want to do that. And
(37:35):
so there was there was somebody that I went to
church with, I still go to church with. I see
him pretty often. Actually his name is Grant Ross. And
Grant Ross told me something one day. He said, Man,
he said, how's a film man? You just did your
first show at Silverado's and everything I said, Man, it
was great, but I feel guilty because I know it's
(37:55):
not right for me to be going to the bar
and partying and not being in sober mine. And he's like, well, listen, man,
sometimes you can't reach everybody from the pool pit. And
you know, same thing with Jesus, Like Jesus went out
there and he went to where the party was to
find the people that needed healing. And so I try
to look at everything that way too, man, especially with
being on the road so much. When I get discouraged
(38:15):
and I'm like, man, I'm miss home. You know, I'm homesick,
I'm like, dude, did Jesus say that? Did Jesus say, God,
this is too much, I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
He went out there and he made sure that those
people got the healing that they needed. So my goal
when you come to one of my shows is to
make sure that you leave better than the way you
came in, because it's a humbling feeling to know that
there's people that worked all week, spent their paycheck to
buy a ticket to come see me, because maybe last
night they thought about ending their life or something.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
You know, like there's multi whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Man, maybe not that serious, but if it ever is
that serious, I want to make sure that I do
my part and letting these people know that you're more
than good enough believe in yourself because if somebody like
me that dropped out of a heighth school that played
around with some things I definitely shouldn't have, can do.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
This, you could do it too.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
That's amazing man, that's I mean, it's trust God, Moti.
I mean when you when you you know, I love
that you're using your platform. Yeah, and you know, like
I said, it's not it's not about protecting beliefs on
on one thing or another, but you're you're clearly helping
a lot of people from dark places and you're helping people.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Are real quick about that though too, like like it's
not like you said, it's not about like pushing it
on anybody, because I never want anyone to feel like
I'm like preaching to them. But also like just know
that when you prayed for a sign, because we've all
prayed for a sogn before in our life and we've
all been like, okay, of God, if you're real, then
well whatever, like show me a sign. Just remember if
you prayed for that sign, maybe you just turned that
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sign away because you turned off what I was trying
to tell you, Like, maybe this is the sign, Like
for anybody watching right now, obviously there's cameras in here,
like you might be going through something, man, don't give
up on yourself, Like, take that step in the right
direction and trust God to put you there and he will.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I'm walking proof of that.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
That's amazing, dude, amazing.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I've loved this conversation, dude. I wish we could keep
talking to her.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I just love hanging with you. Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
I am going to take you up on that offer
and come on the bus and we're probably gonna drink
far too much or whatever it is, and we're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
We're gonna write.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I don't know if I don't know if I'm as
good as bock Beats or whatever, but I can at
least give my best effort to you in the room, dude.
Chase Matthew out on tour right now, got an amazing
twenty five song album, Love You Again, charting.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Chris Rudiger just drops some music too. So if y'all
don't know about that check. I still do that a
little bit as well. But dude, I freaking love I
love what you're doing, man, I love following it. And
you know I'm I'm a homie here for life, bro,
So keep.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It here man. All right, y'all, you guys have anyone.
Thanks for having me.
What is up guys, Chris, what's up.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Chris Rudides book. I freaking knew he was going to
do this.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
See it's up so hard I almost put I almost
put ten bucks on it that he was going to
do that. I'm not even kidding, and I would have
freak hit. I would have made some money off Matt unbelievable.
(00:30):
We're back on six and five hours podcast. Chris your
degree here, and I'm so palmed. This is a good
friend of mine. I've been wanting to chat with him
for a while. The dude has like hundreds of millions
of streams to date, He's got millions of monthly listeners.
He had a breakout hit, County Line that was Oria
Gold certified, and then he's got his headlining tour right now,
(00:51):
Come Get Your Memory. The album drops and uh, I'm
told now Love You Again is going to radio and
is charting on radio right now. So this guy's freak unstoppable,
but bigger than that. Down to earth guy has a
crazy story and uh just really cares about the community
in Nashville and the people he's around, and so that's
why pumped that he's here.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Please welcome Chase Matthew, let's go there. You go. See
you didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Interrupt me on that intro there, you know, but I
had I thought the.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
First intro was better too, though I really thought it
was cool. Maybe we chop up the first intro and
just run that back, it's like or whatever. Dude, I
feel like you've been traveling NonStop. Man, knows how the
show's been going.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's been good.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean realistically, it's like you know, obviously, it's it's
a lot of time away from home and hard to
keep your head straight sometimes, like just you know, nose
of the grindstone.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But man, like I've got a great team.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
And and uh, we just like launched a whole new tour,
like you said, you know, we've got a new light show,
new set list.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Man. We've been like I don't know, like just incorporating
so much new stuff that's really made it fun. And
like the revamp has just made it that much more impressive.
I feel like too. So if any body has it
been like, come check it out. Chase Matthew tickets stuck home, dude.
You know, it's one thing I've noticed about you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Like even we were talking beforehand and you're pointing out
like the mixing board and some of.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
The gear we have.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I feel like you're a little bit of a gear nerd.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like I feel like you, like like you seem like
you want to be involved with like the production of
your show, like the lighting, and like, oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
That's all I thought about, Like, like I'm like, like
before all of this, like all I ever thought about was, like,
how do I do a live show. I remember studying
how to program a light show and uh, which it's
it was definitely not the industry standard way to do it,
as I learned and progressed and all of this, but
not saying that I programmed the light show because I
have somebody else that does that now and he's freaking awesome.
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Shout out Hunter, Shout out Sean, Shout out Scott Cunningham.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
They are awesome people.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
But yeah, like all I've thought about, like from the
beginning when I did my first show, I remember I
needed to have like the an air setup, you know,
like so I could hear myself. And I didn't realize
how much it was gonna cost. But my boss that
I was working for at the time, man, he like
he loaned me money, so I could go buy this
innyer kit, like the whole the X thirty two, the
rack mount, like all the ears, so I would have
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everything that I needed. And uh and I remember like
remembering making that investment, knowing that I'm gonna use this
piece of equipment for the future, and like I'm always
trying to stay a step ahead, especially in my shows
and stuff and and touring.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I just bought my first bus. Congratulations, the bus is
looking nice.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I was just talking about I'm gonna wrap it with
something crazy. You haven't figured it out yet, but it's
gonna be wild. It's gonna make you turn your head.
And I just got a new bus trailer too, so
it'll be matching.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
We'll make a mad that's get dude.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
You got to stand out in the bus department, Like
you can't be the you can't be the average guy.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Going on the right lane that no one wants to
give a shit up. Yeah, like I want my like
my my whole goal is to have two buses. I
want to buy a second bus because obviously the team's
gonna grow as the as the business grows. So my
goal is to like have a cool when we go
play a festival or we play a show, like have
a cool spot backstage where we're like set up between
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the two buses, so I have two matching buses, and
then like have like a whole medium area you know,
who knows, Like maybe we'll string up a damn volleyball
court in the middle of the buses.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And shit, I don't, dude, you could even have one.
You could have the business bus, and you could have
the party bus.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know, you already know it's I already know you
already know it's party on the crew bus. Don't party
in my my bus. It's going to say you got
one one for yourself, as you should.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Dude. I love that though.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I have said, like I've come out to some of
your shows, and I do think.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Like it's you can tell that it's very like thought out,
you know, strategic, like you actually really care about the
process of your show, which I'm not saying other artists jump,
but there are a lot of people that are kind of more removed,
like just higdo press the lights kind of thing, And
I feel like that's one of the things that has
really stood out to me about your show is that
you like you cater, the show, the lights, the set
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list to like make it a unique experience and in particular,
like even seeing you at CMA Fest, dude, like you
have some real, real loyal fans that just like right,
Chase Matthew, and it blows my mind. Dude, you're putting
asses in seats man, Like there are a lot of
people that aren't.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You're doing it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You're right, I mean I've seen it, And that's one
thing that I like to study. Like I study my business.
I study the analytics as much as possible at least.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
When I can.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know, same thing with the show as well, you know.
But it's like I have noticed that, and I think
it has a lot to do with like my fan
base coming from the independent side, you know, Like I
built a lot of this, like most of it like
on my own, like from the beginning all the way
back to Dude, I used to sell my truck, bro
I used to sell my truck to like pay for
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music videos or like to do shows, and then when
I would make the money back, I would buy my
truck back. Like it's all about investing in yourself and
like I feel like a lot of artists are not
hands on enough in their career. Once they get to
you know, a little fame and people start offering, oh
I can help you, they just start handing out, letting
other people do the jobs. And sometimes and I've caught
myself doing that sometimes, but like, man, sometimes they just
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have to circle back around do it the way I
wanted to be done. And I feel like that's what
makes us creative as artists one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Dude, you'r you got to invest to continue to grow,
and you got to be the woman you're at You're
at the helm, you know, you're the one calling the
shots here.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, the other people. It's always got to be that way. Yeah,
it has to be.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, that's crazy this you you were you were selling
off a car.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I still have the truck too. I bought it back,
Like how many times you think you like, did you finish?
Six times?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Really?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Six times? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I could show you, like where I signed the dash
or not the dash the center console on the truck
because I thought I was never going to see it again,
like a couple of times, and it's still fading.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It is still there.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And I'm actually working on like documenting a couple of
my vehicles right now and doing like a series of that,
so which I have a pretty cool car collection, at
least for me, I like to say it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, I bragg in my car collection. I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And that's like my other passion too. So but that's
what my job was was.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I was a ATV mechanic, so like I wasn't going
to ask what you were doing before.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I had a feeling it was in cars because I
feel like every time you, like when I do see
your pond, I was somewhere, I feel like it's always
like you always got your different truck and you got
like something new on your truck, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Like, yeah, no, but it's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But you're leaving out the part where it's like where
I pull up and I park and then it's like
smoking or like packing oiling ship.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, you leave out that para out the part where
you had to get some maintenance on us.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, you're doing it yourself, I'm sure you. I mean
you got that background.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, I mean yeah, And then sometimes it's cooler to
drive something old than like drive something new, you know,
Like I remember my first time that I did my
I did my Opry debut in March, and like being able.
I remember deciding. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna drive
my my sixty six. I've got a Mercury Park Lane convertible,
and I was like, I'm going to drive this to
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to the opery.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I made a halfway down the road, the transmission went
out like completely, like it was just like done.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I still haven't got to mess with it much. But
was that before your operative? You?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, it was. I was on the way there. Did
you just so you just left the starry? I got
to show. I'll tell you what I did.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I was at I was like across the street, like
like a couple like doors down from O'Reilly's.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So I went in.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Was it a Rise or AutoZone one of the other.
I was, yeah, AutoZone. I went in there and got
some uh, Lucas oil, the transmission stop slip fix and
which I love Lucas hole because of this, And I
put it in the car and then let it sit
for a second run like the pumps get going, and
I made it back to the house.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So I got back to house.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Then I got in my new car and grove But
you know how it goes.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
That's wild, dude, I was just picturing like you and
the guys just like pushing this like into the Grand
all the Opry parking lot, like you know, the producer
comes out like, yeah, we got five minutes your.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Lot, Like that's what it felt like, to be honest,
like when I finally got there.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But uh, dude, and congrats on making that ground oper daytime.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It was so much fun too. And like stranding in
that circle is crazy, dude. It's like there's so much
history there and you can feel it like you've been there,
you know, It's like it's wild. It's amazing, dude.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, I mean your journey over the past couple of
years and be on that is very very impressive. It's
been amazing just to get to know you and follow you.
But I do want to talk about a little bit
about you know, kind of just your upbringing and how
you got to where you are. I mean, you know,
life certainly hasn't always been you know, certainly easy.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It sounds like you know, and.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I remember your vocal and a couple of articles I
read about you know, some drug addiction and what was
going on. I mean, how did you know how how
is music you know helped you through that well.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, I think we've all got ups and downs
in life, like sure, and I don't and I don't
ever want anyone to think that, like I want special
attention because of what I went through, because it's not
about like what you went through or or or what happened.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's about what you make of it. And that's what
I learned through all of it. Really.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Man, back in twenty seventeen, specifically, it was it was
a pretty rough year for me, and I dropped out
of high school sophomore year and never went back and finished.
I tried to do the homeschooling thing for a little
bit and just never.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I didn't. I didn't care enough.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I just And it's sad to say, because it was
not a decision that I recommend anyone doing. Yeah, but
I remember beating myself up for about four or five years,
just like, man, I want to go back and finish,
like and then here recently, you know, with the music
taken off, I've realized that like, if I wouldn't have
done that, I wouldn't be where I'm at today because
(10:24):
when I was in my room, depressed, feeling like I
had no social life because all of my friends were
graduating and seeing all that happen and just over the
years and like I realized that I vented a lot
of that through music and found myself and found my
sound and who I was. And yeah, man, twenty seventeen
though was tough. My best friend passed away. He's from
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out here in Nashville as well, which you know, I'm
a native. I'm from here a little bit north of town,
Middle Tennessee. Really I went to well, it's like eight
different schools growing up, so like I just try to
just say Middle Tennessee in Nashville because like it's hard
to tell everybody gallots in Hendersonville there.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
But yeah, man, that was my best friend's name was
a mod and I was name tattooed right here in
a ford Ford logo. He was a big Ford guy,
so I have his name in there. But when he
passed away, it was a lot of scandalous shit was
happening around all that and it was just like a
really emotional like roller coaster for me. And uh, I
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remember venting a lot through the music. Man, it just
kind of like I really got through it like that.
And yeah, my dad also moved back to New Mexico, which.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Is where he's from.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And my mom and dad met like through music kind of,
my mom and my dad. My dad played like Printer's
Alley and worked in Branson and like all these places,
and my mom did like was a singer and doing
like Patsy Clown impersonations and like bad Way shows and
stuff like that. So I come from a musical background,
a very musical family, aunts, uncles, grandparents, everything, cousins. They're
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all musically talented, which I thought was normal until I
grew up and realized none of my friends family everyone's
parents can sing, right, And back to what I'm saying though, man,
like my my mom and dad, my mom's kind of
always been out here. My dad was always in New
Mexico until I was born, and so you know, he
stayed in Nashville to raise the youngest. So when I
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turned nineteen and all that stuff happened, Man, it was
kind of a rough time and rough timing really for
everything to happen, because my dad was going through a
divorce and I'd always told him, man, like you always
talked about back home growing up, back on this back
home that I was like just moved back to New
Mexico and I'll meet you there and I've got that
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on my arm to the New Mexico Zia. Yeah, in
the five oh five minutes. That's my other half.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Of my heart.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
My dad's there, My whole dad of my side, my
whole dad's side of the family's there.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And uh so you know we got to go back.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been back a lot here recently
and visiting and building relationships with family members and stuff,
and so yeah, that happened. And then like my girlfriend
bro at the time, like we we just broke up
and like caught her sleezing around like pretty much.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Like just the combination of things.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But like obviously the girl problems didn't way up to
losing my best friend or my dad, you know, but
uh we figured that out, and yeah, man, everything's back
to normal now.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know. We're learning how to live with everything differently
every day. It's all about adapting.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And uh yeah through that whole process, I just learned
how to make music, man, and and kind of got
me here today. I wrote a song called Nashville Crazy
that really changed everything. And I have another tattoo for that,
Nashville Crazy, and that's like my I'd say it's the
song that showed me like to believe in myself because
I was making rap music and like, honestly music that
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was just trash, like my music kind of sucked.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And uh, but again, it's just about finding your sound.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And wrote nashvillel Crazy and everybody in town shared it
and got a lot of love, and uh, man, it
was crazy, dude, did I mean? I can only imagine. Man,
I'm sorry to hear about my friend. And but again,
but again, again, you don't got to say sorry because
it's we all go through stuff like that. I feel
like sure most of us now around our age, like
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we've all lost somebody that was close to us, Like
we know what it's like to experience loss, and so
the conditions on which I lost him was not good.
But that's a whole nother conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
So right, Well, you mentioned that in the midst of
all this you start writing and recording music as a
as a way to cope express yourself, and Nashville Crazy
was kind of the first song you said that made
you believe in yourself. What was it about that song
that made people give you the confidence to be like, yeah, man,
I'm gonna I'm gonna really do this.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, well, so I firmly believe in something. This might
be off topic, but like I firmly believe so every
relationship I've been in, like with a girl, I uh,
because I've never been in a relationship with anything other
than a girl. But this is cut. So I firmly
believe like every every Then this might be off topic,
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but like I firmly believe that every time I've been
out of a relationship like with a girl, I always write,
like a hit song, it's weird, it's like all and
not like I hit. I guess you could say like
that maybe that's the wrong wording for lack of better words.
But a song that changed is something like or it
gives me some more momentum towards the right direction of
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my goals and dreams. One of those was Nashville Crazy.
I just went through a breakup with this girl and bro,
it was like the most toxic thing I'd ever been
through my life.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And this was like twenty nineteen, so like I'm still
healing from all this other crazy crap that was going on,
and then like that and that the picture and you're
like what though, Yeah, bro, Like and I'm not trying
a bad mouth at all, will never say her name,
but yeah, man, it was wild. I picked up I
picked up my laptop, sat it down, and started going through.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Like beats on like beat stars.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Bro I found this guy named boch Beats, So you
know who I'm talking about. I have no idea, So
it's Bacchbeats dot com. Shout out box shout out shout
out like yeah real talk shout out bock Beats because
this dude is one of the only guys other than
like Jake Angel that I know of which Jake shout
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out Jake Angel to one of my great homies. But
block Beats made this instrumental and I found it on
beat Stars and I started writing this song. I paid
forty dollars for the least like the cheapest one because
I had no money, like and barely paying rent on
this house. I was producing music for other people, like,
trying to, like, you know, do everything at the same time,
and finally produced a song for myself and it just
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went crazy bro Like. It obviously didn't go as big
as County Line or any of the other ones, but
it was one that showed me like, as long as
you have drive and you have motivation and like a
reason to write something cool, you'll do it. It's not
a heartbreak song either, it's actually a love song. But regardless,
it's a song that changed everything.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
See they say breakups aren't aren't good for anything, They're
good for something.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Bro, breakups are great, my boy Joe Tyle. Ask any
of my homies that have Like I tell all my
friends this. I'm like, as soon as you and your
girlfriend break up, you're gonna write a hit, right and
like it happened, like it happened for a couple of
my friends. And like I and I hate speaking that
into existence because I don't think negativity brings out good things,
but like it definitely changes things. Share on that and
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you got your buddy box beats be like beats man,
shout out bos shout out box. Shout out this girl,
because look, you got your career started. Yeah, shout out
to all whether she likes it or not, shout out
them exes. I swear this is the social media post
right here. It's like, yeah, shout out to all my exes.
I love you so much. Like thanks for oh this
cameraray there it is. Shout out to all my exes
for giving me great inspiration for all these songs. I
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still love you you and uh, I hope you're enjoying
dating your cousin.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And we'll be right back podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Unreal, Uh dude, So you put out this song, you
keep you keep rocking and rolling, and then you put
out You get on social media and you put out
the song. I remember I had seen some of your
stuff beforehand, but when I really got hooked on the
Chase Matthew wave was when I think we all did,
which was County Line. Yeah, talk to me about that
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journey to because that song blew the frick up.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, man, it was crazy. So I had this again
another girlfriend. This is girl number two.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I'm gonna just if you just had a little corner
of the girls we talked about today that aul the.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I had this girl.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Man, we were together for a minute and uh wild
how we got together. I kind of fell in love
with the bartender, and uh, I just I wrote a
song about a real scenario. Everything in it's like literally
what happened in County Line. And I was just sitting
in my bedroom, man, like in a like over here
in like a corner kind of like this and like
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had my desk set up with my little twenty twelve,
two hundred dollars MacBook Pro and like a fifty dollars
interface I wrote into one a microphone and a pirated
version of Logic.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's the setup. Yeah, And I wrote a song and
recorded a song that was like changed everything.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Man. I sat there and wrote it by myself. And
like a lot of my songs, I've solo wrote. And
I find a lot of pride in that. I love
working with other writers and whatnot, and but I really
my core has always been just writing it by myself.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And that's a testament to you as a writer, dude.
I think there are a lot of people and co
writing's great Nashville, and you mentioned, you know, you have
a lot of writers on your tracks, but the fact
that you can write, you know, stuff that's as good
as it is by yourself is a testament to you
as a songwriter.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It's cool, man, But yeah, dude, I working with other
writers though, too. I've met so many like like extremely
talented people in this town since I kind of like
started working with Warner and uh uh dude, it's it's
been it's been wild.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's been a hell of a ride, dude, Like it's.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Insane, but yeah, man, County Line took off and the
way it did. Uh I didn't believe in like the
whole TikTok thing for the longest time, and a lot
of us don't. A lot of us did it right,
like it was kind of this thing like oh, that's
that's funny, like whatever, like, but they said the same
thing when streaming came out.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You know, we all said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So like, I, uh, I had a manager and I've
been begging this guy to manage me for years, and
uh finally talked to him into doing. His name is Lloyd,
but everybody calls him Big Snap and Snap and bro
uh Snap has been in like the underground rap world
and uh like all in all areas urban world of
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like rap and hip hop and stuff. And I finally
talked him into managing me, and uh, I showed him
what songs I had, I was sitting on and what
I was working on, and he's like, listen, man, I
know you think this TikTok stuff is some bullshit, but
just post.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
This video right here.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And I just got done recording an acoustic version for
County Line. This was before I ever put it out though,
So I was gonna I was gonna drop the acoustic
then drop the full version. So I took the acoustic
video and then I put the studio version, like full
band version, over top of it, and then I uploaded
it to TikTok. Like he asked me, He's like, dude,
just post it. Like if it doesn't do nothing, whatever,
we'll try it again. Yeah, I'm not kidding you, Chris.
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I posted this video on TikTok, went to work, came
back home, opened my phone up, and I had seven
hundred and fifty thousand views on like my seventh video
i'd ever posted on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And the next week the whole sound went viral.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So like it's easy to make a video go viral, right,
anybody can get the clickbait, but like making.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
A sega viral, yeah, takes work, bro, And it just
kind of happened. And so I had to learn.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And again I've always been like trying to stay ahead
of the curve. So like I started studying like what
people were reacting to and what they weren't, and like
what was working on TikTok, and like what was inside
the guidelines and outside of the guidelines and like and
and we've just managed to grow it tremendously and it's
gone on to be my first gold record. I just
found out shout her adulations to my friends that just
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told us, God, the song just went platinum. So platinum.
You hear that platinum independently? Yeah, see, that's unbelievable, dude.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I also want to talk about Tennessee Boys, because Tennessee
Boys are having a moment right now.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You know the man Jelly Roll. He's a local guy too.
What's your relationship with Jelly?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Like, do you guys? Are you guys? Because he was
in the rap game too.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, you guys are kind of not many people
that really grew up in Nashville are doing it, and
he's one of them.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So dude, I mean I grew up listening to Jelly's
music and hell, I was live on TikTok last night
like listening to them, like the old Jelly songs. Man,
One of my favorite ones is uh, fall in the Fall,
and I think, yeah, fall in the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
He's only falling the fall.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, dude, like being from here, everybody
kind of knew who he was and what he did,
and uh, it's cool to see him bridging that gap
now and building that independent fan base fan base and
then like going for the bigger picture. And that's so
cool because I feel like I feel like the industry
is starting to realize too, Like social media.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's the new thing, it's the new standard, same thing
with streaming. Like obviously radio still runs so many things
and and it's still a dream of mine to be
on radio, and and uh with all of us as well,
and like it's so cool to see like Jelly getting
that opportunity to bridge that gap for not only himself
but everybody, and and it's really cool, man, He's setting
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the new wave and the new standard for all of us.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I love it, dude, And I think I think you're right.
I think it's cool to see people are waking up.
It's not to say that radio isn't a factor, not
its streaming as a factor, but that the two can
merge and blend together.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And Jelly's crushing it on socials.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I can't get off my TikTok without seeing the kid.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And then I go on turn on my radio when
I'm driving home and there's jelly like and dude, I mean,
let's talk about you, because that shit's happening for you
as well.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I want to talk about bro. I mean, dude, so
you know album comes out? How many songs are on
the album? Twenty five? R twenty five and come get
Me a Memory and just dropped and dropped and you
got a song right now I Love You again.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's going on country radio. Yeah, Like it's crazy. How
does it feel to really be living the dream?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
It's it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I don't know. So it's like it's like this, I'll
never have expectations because it never feels like what you
think it's going to feel like.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'll tell you what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It feels even better than I could ever imagined, like
to be able to to turn on your radio in
your hometown and like get the videos from your friends.
I was just texting some friends of mine about this
the other day, Like, there's no way to explain. We
used to listen to the radio sitting around the bonfires.
I couldn't imagine if my song would have came on
(25:18):
the radio back then, you know, when we were dreaming
about it, and now it is and so like, for example,
last night, we had a bonfire in my house. I
invited some friends that we both mutually know, and man,
we just talked about it like it wouldn't be crazy
if my song came on the radio right now bam
there and we were like, oh my god, like it
was crazy to hear it. So I got to hear
(25:38):
my song again on the radio last night, and shout
out to Nashville and country radio for believing.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
To me, it's it's a dream come true. Man, that's wild, dude.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I love to see. I love that you're doing the
same stuff that you were doing years back. Man, just bonfire,
listen to radio. Only difference is your boys on the beginning,
boys on the big dial. Now man, we're doing it.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I mean, the album Top Down is fantastic, dude. It's
got so many great songs, you love you again being
one of them. And I'm really pumped to hear that
you're now going on your own headlining tour.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah yeah, how many dates are you doing?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Lord, I wish you wouldn't ask me.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Now. I gotta look all right, now, I gotta factor.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
All I know is when I looked at when I
looked at it, I knew that it was a big tour,
but like, you got a lot of dates, you got
a bunch of different cities. It's really cool to it's
really cool to see you playing and doing and your dude,
you're pushing tickets.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Man, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Let me ask you, what's what's one city that you
either maybe you have played or you haven't played, that
you're really.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Looking forward to on this tour? Oh? Man, well this
is so this is actually like my fourth headlining tour.
But like, I think what's going to separate this one,
especially visiting new cities that haven't been to. It's probably
gonna be some of the country thunder shows. Those are cool,
(27:01):
but like, man, where's that one place we're going to?
Because we were We sometimes me and the guys lookt
in the bus and we'll like look at the venues
before we get there, just to like see what we're expecting.
There was one that we just played at though that
was insane. Oh Mishawaka. It was Mishawaka, Colorado. Yeah, Mishawaka
like uh Amphitheater or something, but dude, it was crazy. Bro.
(27:23):
They had like this big like carved out wooden eagle
out of a tree, bro and then like this crazy
metal like architecture, like I don't know what it was,
like this big like fly woman that was made out
of metal. It was like crazy looking in the stage
as wild, and it was in the mountains and there
was a river running directly behind the stage real and
like dude, every time the music would go, you know,
(27:45):
after we would end a song, you would just hear
the river rushing like and they've got like lights shining
on the water. Bro.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It was It's it was the crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I would totally go back there and watch a show.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Is it and is it outdoors? Like is it that? No,
it's yeah. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Red Rocks has that same feel. It's not like that,
but like it's just as cool. And I still haven't
seen Red Rocks, but I could only imagine, you know, dude.
I mean Red Rocks is like the cop out answer
that everyone says, like, oh, what benue do you want
to play? But then you get there and you're like, yeah,
it's Red Rocks.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's just that cool.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I always wanted to play what's it called.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Coyote Joe's Yeah, Kyote Joe, Yeah, in uh Carolina, Yeah,
Kytie Charlotte. Yeah, I always wanted to play there, and
I remember the first time I played there, there was like, dude,
probably like almost three thousand people there. Yeah, and it
blew my mind. And then we just announced that we're
going back there in February. Dude, I might track it
out and come to that show. You know, I might
(28:45):
have to, dude, An, I'm an easy traveler, man, I'll
do that ship. And Hey, also your Nashville show that
you played, because you played the Nashville show, you.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Know, around around the time this album was dropping.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I have never seen so many people rout in on
the sky deck and Fifth and Broadway and people are Dude,
people are having a blast singing word for word on
your songs. Again, Man, you got this loyalty and Nashville
showed out. How did I feel to play like a
hometown show and have that, yeah, that level of support.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That was my first Nashville headliner, like downtown Nashville headliner.
I've done headliner shows at our dive bars around town,
our little honky tonks like outside of town, Silverado, Cahoots,
But that one, you know, that was after the bubble, man,
after everything really happened, and I remember sitting with my
managers and we were like, okay, like, how do we
(29:38):
go all out for the Nashville show for Skydick. And
that was that was almost a year today from today. Actually, yeah,
the twenty third of last year. Yeah, so four days,
four days from now, mark exactly. Yeah, I remember it
was in the fall last year.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We did h We did a week of rehearsals for
that show. We brought out video walls, multiple guests, Megan
Morony hating Kaufman, hate Mason Horn. Yeah, but yeah, dude,
that that was insane and it felt amazing man to
see see the hometown people, people I went to high
school with, people I haven't seen it years. We had
like I think somewhere around two thousand people packed out
(30:15):
on that rooftop.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
It was insane.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
They still tell me it's Skydeck. I went there a
couple of nights ago to see Blackstone Cherry. Yeah, and
they and the staff there still tells me they're like, dude,
that was still one of the crazy shows you ever had.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I wish that maybe they do, but I wish they
they had the leaderboard where they could put like, you
know of like coolest shows that.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
This wouldn't be the coolest, so it wouldn't be the coolest.
Jelly Roll did this one.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, I went to it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Jelly Roll did this one with CMT there. They did
like a I think it was like The Hot twenty
Countdown or some some some kind of series they did
on it. But Jelly did a show there and it
was like all the military and like, uh, maybe it
was the Marines. I don't know, but there was like
a huge amount of servicemen and women there and bro,
(30:59):
it was fricking rowdy. It was the craziest and that's
what made it cool. It was cooler because of that.
Like obviously I had a bunch of lights and production
and stuff, but but man, screw all that, like the
love that was there, like and the love he was
showing to those people that atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, the environment, I get it, dude, that's awesome. Well,
Chase Matthew's got an album out come and Get Your
Memory and Love You Again, which is the single that
is on country radio, is crushing it. He's got a
tour all throughout the fall. Dude, You're crushing it and
I just love to see I love to see it
paying off. For somebody that's so hard working. I know
(31:37):
how much you put into this. The other thing I
want to talk about too.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Is you.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
You love to collaborate with people. I see you're always
bringing your friends on the road. Yeah, you know, I
think that was instilled from you know, when you were
first starting out getting the opportunity from people. But now
I see that you're bringing a lot of like these
up and comers out on the road with you, And
I want to shout out you for that because I
know a lot of people mutual friends of ours that
(32:03):
are so pumped that they get to be on the
road with you or.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
They get to you know, well do I mean, like
I'll stop you there.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Like I met so many cool people just coming and
visiting the six one five hours a couple of times
and making content and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And like one of those people is Graham.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah. And uh yeah, yeah, Bailey, you know. I me
and Bailey go back a little bit. Yeah, And I remember,
like we had that conversation that day. I remember the
first day Bailey Zimmerman played Rock in the Heart, Rock
in hard Place, like he played it for us the
demo at Dude.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I was trying to find that video there's a video.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I've got it, you got it?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, you got to send that shit to me because
it's cool.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It's you, me, Zimmy, and Graham and there's my one
or two others and he's like, hey, guys, I wrote
this song.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, yeah, what do you think? I ain't gonna lit?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Bro? Like I I honestly I didn't hear the potential
in it, but like I see it now, it makes sense,
you know what I mean. Not that I doubt the
kid at all, Like I just I thought that, like
I heard what every time I heard Bailey's voice, always
heard more of, like a like a grungy rock thing.
What she's doing more of now, which is super cool,
but like rock and hard places like the heartbreak anthem
of the year.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Bro, Like it's crazy. I mean it's it's up for
the song of the year and he's been working hard
as O.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well yeah, man, I mean it's fun dude, you know,
I mean, you know what it is. But I love
That's one thing I just wanted to.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Shout you out on is I love that you you
care about you know, you're real, you care about the
people around you. You believe in everyone lifting each other up,
and I think that's you know, I think that's why
when I go around town, I hear so many other
artists that are so appreciative.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
View.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Of course they're fans of your music, but they're all
just fans of you as a human being.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I love to appreciate that. Thank you to whoever said that.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, right, well, hey man, we got we got a
few minutes left. We got to do one thing that
I love. Shout out to my sponsor of this segment.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
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Speaker 3 (33:54):
They got some great country Western apparel, and we like
to do this thing with Area where we go rapid
fire questions. We throw sixty seconds on the clock and
you just shout out whatever comes to mind. So crank
that clock sixty seconds.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
What is a dream collaboration for you?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Jesse Murpher, Jelly Row, I love Malone. There that's the one.
How about all three favorite? What would be a dream
venue for you to play?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh okay, we already said Red Rocks on Bridge Sun Arena.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
There you go, hometown show in Nashville. Are you a
cowboy hat or baseball cap?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Oh? Man, I can't find a cowboy hat big enough
to fit my head.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I love that talker or texter both FaceTime your face time.
I think you have face timing before I've seen that, right.
What's your what's your favorite sport?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh, dude, the Titans. I love soccer. I got y'all
all right, unbelievable. I'm sitting here like what, I can't swim.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I can't swim either.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Oh my god, dude, if you can only play one
Chase Matthew song for the rest of your life would.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Be Rainy Days, Rainy Days, rainy days.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
There you go, all right? And favorite fast food place?
I think I know the answer cook out Really yeah,
I thought you were gonna say Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
T Bell is it? But like cook out?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I like the heartburn I get from cookout a little more.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There you HiT's a little harder man, just fired up
to get that heartburn.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Unbelieved. I love it exactly right. And dude, last one,
what's your cowboy boot too shape?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
What do you go for all day?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah? Dude, those are some nice looking to me. Some
of those man Ariots send Chase some of those snip toes.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That is sixty seconds presented by Aria with Chase Matthew.
You did a great job and the best part is
he fooled me like you in a weird way. I'm
now on the edge of my.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Seat not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I do that joke too much, honestly, Like.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And it's funny because you know, the Titans just won
the game the other night, at least I think they did.
I'm really not into sports, like no, like, honestly, I
just I just don't like.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I just never have been.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Not that I have against it, but yeah, I guess
I guess so, and I guess I could be what
it is. But like, realistically, I say that joke way
too much. Chill out because I've said it on camera
multiple times. No, I love the end.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
You are right, the Titans did win. Shout out to
the Titans and their kicker to the Titans. Hey man,
we got just a few minutes left. And the last
thing I want to talk to you about is you're
very vocal about this in your posts on stage, your
relationship with God, relationship with faith. I watch you at
CMA Fest and I you know, I heard you talk
about it on stage and it was incredibly moving. Your
(36:37):
words and just just your connection with with your faith
is remarkable. Talk to me a little bit about about
what that means to you.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, yeah, so uh.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I mean, man, like I know I wouldn't be in
this position, like I wh need to be sitting this
this this awesome couch in this room with you and
awesome people, like if it wasn't for what God's done
in my life. And I will always, always, always give
him the credit for that, because number one, he died
on the cross for us, and I ain't none of
us perfect. And that's something I was taught at a
really young age. I come from a long line of preachers,
(37:13):
and my grandfather was a preacher. My great grandfather was
a preacher, my great great grandfather, like the list goes on,
and they built multiple churches and congregations all over the
all over the nation. So I remember when I started
doing music, and you know, I guess my family kind
of expected me to maybe follow the path of being
a preacher, but I didn't want to do that. And
(37:35):
so there was there was somebody that I went to
church with, I still go to church with. I see
him pretty often. Actually his name is Grant Ross. And
Grant Ross told me something one day. He said, Man,
he said, how's a film man? You just did your
first show at Silverado's and everything I said, Man, it
was great, but I feel guilty because I know it's
(37:55):
not right for me to be going to the bar
and partying and not being in sober mine. And he's like, well, listen, man,
sometimes you can't reach everybody from the pool pit. And
you know, same thing with Jesus, Like Jesus went out
there and he went to where the party was to
find the people that needed healing. And so I try
to look at everything that way too, man, especially with
being on the road so much. When I get discouraged
(38:15):
and I'm like, man, I'm miss home. You know, I'm homesick,
I'm like, dude, did Jesus say that? Did Jesus say, God,
this is too much, I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
He went out there and he made sure that those
people got the healing that they needed. So my goal
when you come to one of my shows is to
make sure that you leave better than the way you
came in, because it's a humbling feeling to know that
there's people that worked all week, spent their paycheck to
buy a ticket to come see me, because maybe last
night they thought about ending their life or something.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
You know, like there's multi whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Man, maybe not that serious, but if it ever is
that serious, I want to make sure that I do
my part and letting these people know that you're more
than good enough believe in yourself because if somebody like
me that dropped out of a heighth school that played
around with some things I definitely shouldn't have, can do.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
This, you could do it too.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
That's amazing man, that's I mean, it's trust God, Moti.
I mean when you when you you know, I love
that you're using your platform. Yeah, and you know, like
I said, it's not it's not about protecting beliefs on
on one thing or another, but you're you're clearly helping
a lot of people from dark places and you're helping people.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Are real quick about that though too, like like it's
not like you said, it's not about like pushing it
on anybody, because I never want anyone to feel like
I'm like preaching to them. But also like just know
that when you prayed for a sign, because we've all
prayed for a sogn before in our life and we've
all been like, okay, of God, if you're real, then
well whatever, like show me a sign. Just remember if
you prayed for that sign, maybe you just turned that
(39:48):
sign away because you turned off what I was trying
to tell you, Like, maybe this is the sign, Like
for anybody watching right now, obviously there's cameras in here,
like you might be going through something, man, don't give
up on yourself, Like, take that step in the right
direction and trust God to put you there and he will.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I'm walking proof of that.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
That's amazing, dude, amazing.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I've loved this conversation, dude. I wish we could keep
talking to her.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I just love hanging with you. Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
I am going to take you up on that offer
and come on the bus and we're probably gonna drink
far too much or whatever it is, and we're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
We're gonna write.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I don't know if I don't know if I'm as
good as bock Beats or whatever, but I can at
least give my best effort to you in the room, dude.
Chase Matthew out on tour right now, got an amazing
twenty five song album, Love You Again, charting.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Chris Rudiger just drops some music too. So if y'all
don't know about that check. I still do that a
little bit as well. But dude, I freaking love I
love what you're doing, man, I love following it. And
you know I'm I'm a homie here for life, bro,
So keep.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It here man. All right, y'all, you guys have anyone.
Thanks for having me.
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