BANGLADESH in the Trap | 85 South Show Podcast

Karlous Miller, KDubb and Jack Thriller sit down with legendary producer BANGLADESH!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
And welcome back today to try to self joke speaking.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
He and me in here already, man King Doug, was
that what's the good wordy man?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Teeling like a villain on the ceiling. Man, I heard
I'm a star. You are a star. I'm trying to
be a bigger star. Man. Hey man, you got the
whole world saying you're gonna slap me that love trying
to be a bigger star. I want to be. I
want more money. Man. I've been told you to come
over here, man and talk to with me. Oh yeah,

(01:23):
i'd be somewhere else talking. Hey man, you might as
well do it over here. I'm gonna do it over
here with y'all. Hey man, Jack, what's having a man?
All lives matter? All lives?

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Hey my boy Jack got a singing group, man, Jack
Thriller in the eyss.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
That's right, we're gonna get the red out. We don't
want to read out.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
How you feeling, man, Hey man, you know we love
to have get old legends stop through here.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
That's what we that's what we call all the legends
that represent the hoods all across America.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Man. You know the culture us.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Man, It's just our way of saying, hey man, you've
made it in America through these impossible situations.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
And we got a magnificent guest in here with us today, man,
a spectacular producer who has produced some of the coldest
songs in hip hop history.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Record breaking records.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
That's what I'm gonna name my company right there, record
breaking records.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Man, hit singles, some of your favorite songs.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Uh five hundred million in sales at this point, probably
half a billion or a whole.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Billion, two billions.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Don't let me math up, hey man, none other than
the legendary Welcome today anything South shows Man, welcome, been
waiting on you to stop through here and talk to
with us. Man, have a little ligor and some cigars,
you know, kickback. Yeah, definitely, what's been up man? Just working,

(03:02):
still still working, trying to get some.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
More money, like man, Yeah, it's what everybody's trying to
especially right now. It's a lot of pandemonium in the
world going though, so people are pant expended. I wanted
to tell I want to advise.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
All money to save your bread. People about to start
selling it in a minute. It's about to be some
good deals out straight up saves get some cash. Cash
is king you can get You're gonna be able to
get some good deals if you got some money saved up.
This is one of the first risons that I ever
been over house before this house is amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Man. First of all, you have Jack over there.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Jack was interview with me back back then. Just get
it in man, Me and chan't go way back to.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Go way back with everybody.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Man, interview everybody in the world and cut it face
your airs on.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I don't know what they had, the ball face they
talking about the ball faces.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Lord, It's like it seemed like faces go with certain things.
You know, Hey, man, this your first time over here
to day the fast out show.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Man. Just catch yourself waiting for I've been waiting to
get on here. Man. I ain't think you knew me
over here. Man, Come on, man, stop playing like Jack said,
You've been a very long time. You're not easy to
get in touch with. Don't like that everybody said it.
I don't know why doctor Drake told me that.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Come on, man, doctor Drake can't get in You know.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
What, Doctor Drake got a black phone. He could just
cook it up here. Tell them who you're the hardest
man to get ahold of him? Like what I'm being
one place?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Hey man, Before we talk about like the hip hop,
I want to talk about all that you did outside
of hip.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Hop, bro, like the pop like that.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
What's what's that like when you get them kind of
phone calls calling you telling you Taylor Swift need something,
Brittney Spears.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Coming back loved me. Yeah, it's all urban though. You
know it's like they they want this, you know what
I'm saying. Like it ain't like you going and changing
the style. They want what you're doing. They want the
eight away, you know what I'm saying. Like I worked
with Kesher like she wanted a Bangladesh beat, Like I

(05:33):
think I'm the only producer on the album that's not
in the house. And that was three stacks went crazy Crazy,
that's the song out there. Yeah, doctor Luke the producer,
Doctor Luke, super pop producer with me, real heavy and
he always would say, man's just get a a pop

(05:55):
song on them beats. It's out of here.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
And like he brought me in to his little his situation, man,
and like gave me the opportunity to work with Kesher.
She wanted a Bangladesh beat and in an Andre three
thousand verse, damn.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah we did it.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
He wasn't crazy on him. He did you know that
Brouh didn't even like his verse. Luke didn't like the verses, said, man,
what is he talking about?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
What is he saying? And he paid him, He paid
him a ticket. He's like he was gonna take it off.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
I was like, you know, he could be disconnected from
the coaching sometimes and you really don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's the nicest way of saying, yeah, you don't know
what he's talking about. Gave him a meal. Yeah, I
was better as the same what's a nigga honey ticket?
Honey old well? For sixteen I thought it was a
honey bun well?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeahey, a man, a man is a million And what
would you say was your first hit? They gave you
your first taste of success? Or What's your Fantasy? By Ludicris?
That was my first hit record. I just started making beats.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So you came out the gate with the hit. Yeah,
I bought it. I bought my beat machine in ninety
eight ninety nine. We was on the radio.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
But everything with me was like manifesting, Like everything was internally.
It's an internal process. So I was not physically making beats,
but I was making beats, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Like even like my my.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
My senior year pictures, my an my auntie took us
to Texas to get these special pictures. You could list
all the things that you do, like play basketball, this shit.
I put music, I put music producer. I wasn't even producer.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
So it's like all men festation. All this started when
I was young.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
You know what I'm saying, Teach me go back what
happened when you was your just the thought of like
I always start ahead, Like I never was the type
to wait to get to like I wasn't waiting to
like graduate to figure out what.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
I knew I wasn't going to college or like, man,
what I'm gonna do. So always stay ahead of the game,
you know what I'm saying. I always was playing the moves.
You know what I'm saying, what's the next move? Preparing
it before you get there, you know what I'm saying.
It's like when you when you wait too long, you
just you're in the moment of deciding what you want

(08:38):
to do. Typically don't end.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Up doing.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So after you get your first hits, right, what's your
next move?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Well, that that time was just kind of like processing
the industry and learning the game, you know what I'm saying,
Because that's like something else you got to learn and
it's like trial and error, like you ain't got nobody
showing you or teaching you, and you got you got
such a big impact, and like industry ship is like

(09:11):
you know, it's it's dick riding. So it's like as
soon as you have something, everybody comes out of nowhere
and they fucking with you, you know what I'm saying.
So you gotta sift out what's good and what's not
good for you, you know what I'm saying. So it's
just the learning process was the next thing. I didn't
really capitalize on, uh running it up then because I didn't.

(09:38):
I was I was alone, I ain't really know. I
wasn't outside and campaigning, I wasn't marketing, I wasn't doing
none of the things that I could have did with
this big hit record.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Then on top of having a big hit, it broke
an artist.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
So that's a that's an addition to it, Like you're
not only made a hit for artists, like you broke,
you helped break a artists.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's big shit, Like I could have I could have
gotten so much out of that, you know what I'm saying.
But it's just like learning processes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
It's just like sometimes you don't you don't capitalize on
things just because you don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
And you didn't like put yourself in those positions or
in those places too for people to know who you are,
know you you know what I'm.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Saying, Like I'm out of side, out of mind. I
should have been in New York. I should have been
in the buildings. You know what I'm saying. I should
have been meeting these niggas and yo, I did this,
you know what I'm saying. Like I should have been
producing an artists. I should have been taking them and
getting a deal. You know what I'm saying, because I
just helped break artists. You know what I'm saying, So

(10:52):
I got this.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Should have been like, you know, doing the legwork a
little more.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
But after the disappointment of Pep, like depending on people,
the middle the middle men, like people come around, You're
like I could do this for you, I could get
this to them. I could and you you allow that
to happen. It's like nothing's happening. So you start thinking

(11:18):
like this sh it ain't good or something like.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Then you meet the niggas that that person said that
they can get it to like you like I can
get it, and you meet the.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Niggas like yo, you never You're like nah, then you
play them the same being they go crazy. Like it's
like the communication with the producer and the artist is
so much easier than dealing with the middle niggas, the
middle niggas being.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
The way in the way man, because like.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Artists and producers are visionaries, like like creating ship is
a vision, a middle man is strictly.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Hustling.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Financial is a benefit like money, you know what I'm saying,
I really care about what it what this invention is,
like how can I get some money?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
So if it don't make sense for them, that ship
might not translate to the artists, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Then it's like you not on paper with them. You're
not really like.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
You're not committed to it, you know what I'm saying.
So they not really doing too much. You gotta really,
like you gotta you gotta sign paperwork for a nigga.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
To really like do what they you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
You gotta like give them half of something, you know
what I'm saying for them to actually go do some
legwork for you or something like that. But I never
had those things, never had a big homie like all
super producers have these things, you know what I'm saying.
All this super producers been signed to Jimmy I Ven
or some type of major dude that gives them, funnels

(13:07):
them work. That's why they hot. You're not hot because
you hot, you know what I'm saying. There's a lot
of dope niggas that ain't hot. But to get hot,
you have to be attached to.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
These things that have the the the company and the
people that they own.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
To funnel you the shit where you're relevant all the time,
because if they in your pocket, they're gonna put your
shit out there. I was never in Like, nobody was
never in my pocket. So like, wasn't nobody doing.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Nothing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
So the way I get on albums is like taking
away from the pot a little bit. I get on
Rihanna album and it's like it's like only certain niggas.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Can get on this.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
They be mad though, like they be like fuck because
after you meet the artists and they fuck with you,
it's a rap. They try to keep you from the artists.
You know what I'm saying, like like, talk to me,
talk to me. You be looking at the nigga right there,
like yeah, yeah, but uh, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
They gatekeepers, so they you know, once once we lock
in and don't let it be a female and.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
You attractive nigga or something. They're gonna all, Man, she
gonna love this nigga.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know what I'm saying. Oh man, fuck, it's over wigged.
It's op wid damn, damn damn. They're fucking up the
hits with that bully.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
They fucking up the hits and like a lot of
us ain't in those positions. It's it's people that ain't
of the culture fucking it up too, because like they
don't be understanding the concepts and the creative. They don't
be understanding right, Like I had a song called I

(15:06):
had this song called Kickstand, Right, the concept of the
song lead riding in my shipping and I'm leaning like
a kickstand. Every nigga's gonna understand that, right. So my
nigga Lathen uh Lathen from uh what's what's DJ drummer

(15:28):
and them ship uh aphiliates.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Now what's the later?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, Yeah, the niggas just signed a Little Woozy Bird
and the White Boy, and oh, you know what I'm saying,
it's the Late Lathan is a part of that La
than back then he like Late Late Lake show.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, he sent my beats to Atlantic.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
This this executive at Atlantic right and Kickstand was on there,
so he you know, he loved it.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
He's like, oh, I love it, I love this, I
love this. He said this could be a Jeez hit.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
This could be a jez hit.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
He was like, what who rides bikes anymore?

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Like these are the niggas in the way of genius ideas,
you know what I'm saying. So then he goes further.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
He's like he's trying to talk. He's trying to tell Lathan, like,
you know, if if I be open to change.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
In it to what I got to hear what he said,
change it to. He just he's like it would he
be open to like you know cause like Atlantic had
their own riders.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's really they just be trying to hustle and put
their own riders on your ship and take the pot.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
You know what I'm saying, keep the money.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
So Late like, man, I don't know if you're gonna
be with it by I talked to him about it
so late that hit me. I ain't even know Laatean
sent him the beats. So he when he telling me this,
I ain't know nothing about it. So he telling me
the story.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And I was like, nah, I ain't changing that shit.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
He's like, yeah, I kind of told him that, but
you know, so he went back and told that nigga.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
You know, He's like, yeah, you know, everybody doesn't get it.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
You know, Kanye gets it and where I am gets it,
kind of name dropping nigga's day he worked with before,
you know what I'm saying. So this guy, he calls
Lathan two of the morning, He's.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like, I got it, I got it, I got it
writing in my shit, he and I'm breaking down a bricksman.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
This is a white dude. This a white dude. Like
then it's like that's where they want us to be at.
So then on top of that, what what dope?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Nigga? What dope? What nigga that sell dope or sell
crack is.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Riding in the shady, breaking bust'ing it down.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
These niggas don't know nothing, Like they don't be knowing
nothing they don't be knowing nothing, bro, and I would
have hit him with the same who sells Craig anymore?
It's not us brou like what. So it'd be disappointing that,
like creative people can't or not. I don't want to.

(18:24):
I like to say can't.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
But when the labels control the ship, it's hard to
really be all you can be. So you feel like
it's too much influence from people who they're talking about
and has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
There's executives out there that like Jimmy Ivien. I say,
Jimmy Ivien. There's a lady I forgot her name. She
used to work for Electra. I forgot her.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Name Sylvia wrong.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
When when when Jimmy Irvien met with doctor Dre, Jimmy
Yrvin didn't know what the fuck this chronic guy was.
He didn't know what the fuck it was, but he
he understood the sonics of it. You like, this is brilliant,
Who mixed this? Who did the production? And Dre was
like I did and just with like so all they
cared about what the production. But it's like the fact

(19:20):
that he didn't know what the fuck they talking about.
He believed in him, like he took what he thought
out of it, Like I don't know what this ship is,
by I believe in the person, just like still be
you're wrong with with.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Missy and bust around, Like I don't know what this
ship is, but I believe in y'all.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Do what you want. That's what we need. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
He won't need no niggas trying to write the song
and tell you how to do the ship.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
You know what I'm saying. Video, So like I think
that'd be the the problem, you know what I'm saying.
And do you have a favorite genre to work inside?
Favorite genre?

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (20:08):
I think I think all genres are like as long
as it's you know, it's creative, as long as you're
being creative. I don't have no certain genre. I mean,
you know, of course I like R and B and
hip hop the most. But like I'm a super producer.
I can do anything, Like I could produce anything, you

(20:30):
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I won't work with life instrumentation, programming anything.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
So if we was in the lab right now, you
can cook up anything. I can come in the room
with nothing and make it. He produced me you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
We got back then you can make nineties R and B.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
I can make nineties R and B. I can make
anything I can. That's the genre we want to bring
niggas sound good. Damn I can make.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's why you work with your as.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I can make anybody.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
I need you. I need you to produce my ship.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Then producing is nothing but dictating what you should be doing.
It's like the how you say your words, saying like
this just kind of just it's just controlling, controlling what
is going on all.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
You know what I'm saying, Well, I'm saying, man, we
need to get in there. If you can work with
this nigga, I know I can make you hit Okay,
nothing don came up? You wanna drop them? On the
same time, my whole goal is to make niggas think
like when when when you hit play, they be like, man,
who is that? I'll be like that's it's just that yeah, yeah, yeah,

(21:58):
it's just telling nigga how to say it. Yes, when
did you start fucking with music? Period? Like using the
band and shit? Nah, I grew up in the church.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
All my my whole family is like musicians or do
hair cut hair, make clothes. I feel like I tell
everybody this, like I'm the least talented nigga in my family.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Man, that's the hells and ship to say, the least
funniest person in mind.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Because like I don't play no instruments, I don't sing
like them. I just I feel like I'm just the
most creative. I'm just the more ambitious thinker, the one
that I you know, I just there's nothing I can't do,

(22:50):
you know what I'm saying, Like I'm doing that, I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
A beat this. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
People don't really believe in themselves enough or they don't
want to put themselves in a position to get somewhere.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Let me ask you.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
You said this earlier, like you said you found your
sound around two thousand and what three?

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Like that thing?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
What was what were you like? What do you feel
like you was at before you found the sound?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
I was just in my inspirations, Like whoever was it
my inspiration?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
At that time?

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I was like kind of like I would say, emulate.
You know what I'm saying, Like I feel like we
all like anything you doing, you have inspiration that inspired
you to do something, and you typically like even the
comedian like you might like this, then you might like
take from that like oh that niggas sound like that.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
You gotta you gotta shifted to who you are. That's
what makes it important, you know what I'm saying. That's
what makes you who you are. But we all are
in inspired by.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Something that we're going to emulate in the beginning, you
know what I'm saying, to even be doing shit. So
like Timberlin organized Noise, you know, they was like probably
my biggest production influences, you know what I'm saying, So
I would probably like be in their mind, like I'll

(24:22):
be like thinking like.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Them, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
But Briannie about Brown two thousand and two to two
thousand and three is when.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I started to like, oh, this is my ship. You
know what I'm saying. Let me just with that, Like
to the young young up and come and producers, man,
you the big dog, Like, what's what's some advice you
would give them that they can use right now?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I Mean it's cliche advice, but it's like it's like
the most important advice is like to be yourself, Like, dude,
do you I think a lot of new niggas like
because the error we're in and the sound that's being
pushed out to the masses.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
People are just doing that. They're copying each other.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Like you might have a whole album or something with
ten niggas that all to beat sound the same.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
You know what I'm saying, Like one nigga could have
did this whole beat, all this whole album.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
You know what I'm saying, your number nine before you
know it. It's just like everything sound the same.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
The artists sound the same, the beat sound the same,
the concepts are the same. There I grew up in niggas.
Niggas will beat you up for copying the ship. Niggas
will come to your house and fight you like you
trying to sound like me.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Nigga, that's your favorite club. Nigga down the street from you.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Auntie DMX hated y'all rule when he you know they
used to they friends though.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Like Nigga trying to sound like me.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Nigga, Yo, say, it's a problem because you're kind of
taking food out of nigga mouth finishes, you know what
I'm saying. Now, you don't work with a lot of
legends too, then some of your some of your legendary
stories that you just one of the.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Moments they just had you kind of fucked up, like
I can't believe I'm doing this shit, just to go
from nineteen ninety eight buying the first beat machine to
just maybe your first time in the studio with a
real legend.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
The first time in the studio with a real legend
was ugk oh Yeah, yeah, they was on. I produced
like half of Looton's first and second album, the first
album they on there, most of dem was in the
studio with them niggas, the hard like PIMPCI like the
realist nigga in the world because up to stick him

(27:01):
up because uh Ludcris manager was like, I don't think
he really believed in me. I don't think he really
believed in me for real.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
And he was.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Although he was in the same room. He'll be over
there talking to Pimp and it'll come over to me.
He's like, yeah, you know, I think, uh Pimp want
to produce the record with you. I think he you know,
it'd be dope if he's trying to like get.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
This collaboration going. And it was like the beat, the
beat done.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
I wasn't tripping, but back then niggas wasn't collaborating on beats,
Like it wasn't a thing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
So he brought me over the pimp.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
He was like, man, this show beat man, that show man,
that's you man, Like I'm cool, Like it was him
trying to make this shit happen. It wasn't pimp, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like he always.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Like even the stinking my part, like put your hands
up where I can see him, see him.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Lula wrote that for pimps to say, like, li, man,
you wrote that. Man, you wrote that? Man you say you.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Said, I don't want to say that like pim pim
real Like it's not it's nothing fake about that, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Like anything any stories you hear like it's a real story,
like you. They had one song I'm so bad, I
can suck my own. What was up with that ship?
It's on the right and there that I'm so bad
I can suck my own. I never heard that.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Oh yeah, that motherfucker that pimp all out of then
I'm so bad I can suck my own. Real bum
be so bad he just suck.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I never heard this ship ships like.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
That where the good thing. Uh, hey, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Man?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Man?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
What's on kemc? He's so bad? He's so bad. Yeah,
but you got a few in there with Beyonce. No, yeah,
you know the people who in the be have don't
want to know about that.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
That's that's that came from a million. You know, when
you hot, they find you, you know what I'm saying.
So that was the reinsert like that was the second coming.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
It's like from ninety nine to two thousand and eight,
it's it was a reinsurt thing like it was a
re uh brandy thing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's when you went commercial. What what's the songs you
did with commercial?

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I did Diva and uh video Phone that had a
lady gout. But that, like the last thing you did,
impactful always goes into the next thing, you know what
I'm saying. Because when you hot, like it was the

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hottest thing going. So people, you know, they want that.
And when I made Diva, I made Diva before I
was working with Beyonce, Well I wasn't. I didn't look
at Diva like it was like its own composition. I

(30:50):
just looked I had an artist I had a female
artist at the time, then I had a male artist,
but I was making Yeah, I was making a fixed tape,
and my idea was to put Mafi on.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Uh the Diva beat. I just looked at that like
some I remake, like I didn't.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
I didn't take it serious because it sounded like that,
and I wasn't really never trying to like I wasn't
a producer that capitalized off the sound like I was
supposed to, you know what I'm saying, Like because when
you got to hear record, people want that and they
just want you to do that again, and I never.

Speaker 9 (31:32):
Did it.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I was really like in my own world, trying to
give you something else, trying to give you something new,
trying to go to the next thing.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
So when I made Diva, I wasn't thinking about actually
selling a beat to somebody. I was just using it
for a mixtable, like I throw away shit like you
two always her sh'll be like Diva his shit or
say something else. And at a you know, a switch up,
I was in the studio playing the beat and like

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some my nigga was going.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Crazy about that ship and I was like I was
like this, like I said this is just like like, nah,
Nigga is na, this is his own thing. Nigga is
a whole different. So I was.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I listened to him, you know what I'm saying. So
I started working with Sean Garrett and the mission was Beyonce.
So I was like, Damn, I got this because he
was even hit me because of the millishit. You know
what I'm saying, Like the MILLI just going crazy, everybody
calling you.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
So he was. He kept saying every time he hit.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Me, like Nigga, if I had that beat, Nigga, if
I had that beat, Nigga woo.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
So Devon was perfect for Beyonce because really nobody is
on a deep level. He was already fucking with the sound.
So it just made sense. Like that's how that came
about Beyonce.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Beyonce out out of out of majority of the people
I work with.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Females, Beyonce is like the most humble and the most
uh in tune with with direction and listening. You was
telling Beyonce what to do.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
But Sean writing a song, it's like it's it's not
it's no, it's it's received.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
You know what I'm saying. It's not that I mean
she trusted.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah, it's received. It ain't like you going back and forth.
I've been there with artists that ain't near beyond man.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
I was just so on fucking uh Hustling Flow, argue
with the motherfucking bitch miss arguing with me, bro with
me trying to make the bro arguing with me, ain't
it's on the record at all, Bro going back and
forth with this bitch Broux show.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah got you Okay. I thought you were told the chance.
Everything I'm telling not everything I'm telling her brother would
have had her. White girl.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Everything I was telling her would have worked for her.
Everything I said to her, Karli told her after she
did what she wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
She never listened to me and we kind of fell
out in the studio. She stormed out. She told the
staff I was bullying her.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Mm hmmm, typical white woman ship brought to him, put
my backwoods, get it from the front.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Jack, You's stupid, man, And I felt like I was
being bullied, like you bullying me, Like, make sure you
check that out. What's your name? Hustling Flow?

Speaker 4 (35:03):
She no, she she was finalist because like the finalist
gets super producers, so that's why I was on there.
So I was paired up with a final No, she
an artist, but they paired the artists up with a
super producer. I was one of the producers that was
paired up with her, Like they picked that far. Well,

(35:25):
that was the finals, so there's like four finalists, four finalists.
She she performed first out of the four. She got
eliminated first.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Listen. She didn't listen bro everything I was telling her,
bro like, I'm like, no, this ain't a super producer
right here, super producer bro. And her theory was this.
Her theory was like.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
She she was like, but she kept saying, but you're up,
You're up, like in the sense of like I got money,
song care I ain't hungry. So her theory is like
she rather roll the dice on herself and lose than
listen to me and lose.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Damn. That was brought to you to point by Backwoods
set on the front. You hit it from the front,
just in the mouth flishing there. Yeah, but you know,
like the more of the story is.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Study the motherfuckers that's winning, man, Study the motherfuckers that
win it.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
All these bitches be like I want to be Beyonce
I want to be Beyonce.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Nigga Matthew knows will cut this neat child out and
will be nobody affected by that shit.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
They still go on practice, practice practice. You can't do that.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
I ain't saying I'm cussing these bitches out. What I'm
saying is like anything you say to them, they got resistance.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Then time fly time goes by.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Then they realized what they should have did or oh man,
I should have listened all you was right.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
And it's too late. Go to sleep, Hope, go to sleep.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
If you tie the quiet and go to sleep. Come on, man,
ask me ask question earlier. I gotta ask you now.
I gotta ask you a difficult question.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Okay. Top five Bangler Dish Beats, Top five Bank.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
From the first beginning to current. If you had to
pick fab out your your fave favorites, mm hmmm. I
had to put Cockiness in there, Rihanna, Cockiness your favorite
beats I made. I had to put what's your fantasy
in there, just because it's the first one that was

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the impacted one.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Uh and it still plays to today. Melli. Of course,
of course, I think this is a typical thing, like
a typical list. Uh. A million.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
I kind of forget what I what I've done. Lemonade,
I'll put lemonade in there.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Okay, that was a big one, big hit. Goochie was
in his bag on the one.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I did this be for Bussell rhymes and uh missy
Elliot called uh guiney. I put that in there. Okay,
hey bang what what like?

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I always wanted to know people on your level, like,
what's the when you got to hit hit? What's the
biggest like chick you get off the rip on some
residuous ship. What's possible?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
How the money you got? How you trying to get
in your pocket? Exactly? But this brought to you and
put my backward. Well it from the friend.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Well, I mean, I mean his can make you millions
of dollars. It's can make you thousands of dollars. I
mean a song can make you.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I mean it just depends how big the shit is.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
But millions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I was reading.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Jim Jones off of the Fly, how he made twenty
million dollars just off that one song?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Damn wow? And he was independent too on Cotch Right, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Probably had something to do with the amount, because when
you on the label, they you know, depending on which
your split star, like you ain't you ain't doing as
well as a dependent.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh so you're saying that if he had it, but
how do you even get it to get it to
twenty million dollars? If you do what a cotch as
an independent? Or is it even such a thing as
getting a twenty million dollar situation independent?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, Like he had to pull that off himself well,
being on Cotch.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
I mean, I'm sure he had to do a lot
of his own lay work, a lot of his own
market and a lot of his own probably spend a
lot of distribution.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, I'm sure he did a lot of shit too.
But ahead hit the club. But a hit, though, a
hit made the money. Yeah yeah, a hit kind of
just takes off though.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
So you you're saying that he made more money off
the got majority of that money off the performances.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Got you you Yeah, you're gonna perform now you had
lived that night for a hundred Nigga could be one
hundred years old and he could perform fly and all
you got to do is perform that bitch three times
at one thirty.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
You out there, bitch at two ten, the city gonna
ship the club down at three o'clock.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Some you know that type of situation, like the one
hundred and fifty.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
And royalties and the publishing how many albums it selves?
The royalty money is crazy? Say you did a whole project.
Eric Sermon was on a podcast. He said he got

(41:29):
five percent on something that Metro.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Booming sample that is a is uh what's that Canadian
singer name Ria Cafe? A weekend we are?

Speaker 4 (41:44):
I know that Nigga makes two hundred and fifty thousand
every quarter just off of five percent of the song.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
That's what I'm talking about that, Yeah, what the fuck
was just imagine what.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Metro made? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. Like that's Eric's sermon, but a sample
for the sense.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Just from the frame. Are you fucking with the AI
at all? With the new digital technology? Man?

Speaker 4 (42:20):
You know, like it's it's like a scary thing to say,
like you don't fuck with it because you don't want
to be behind on time. But like I like seeing
what things do, programs and ship.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
It's like.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
The the love that I have for being creative. It's
it's like, like that's my job. You know what I'm saying,
Like I want to like it's not the money with me,
It's not the actual outcome of what comes out of
this ship. It's the it's the feeling that, no, my

(42:55):
I did that.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I did that. Like you know, machines can just do everything.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
That's why I never got into any other form of
making beats than my hardware. I haven't got into the
new program yet because a lot of programs it's just
I'll be seeing what it do.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
I'm like, damn, Like you ain't have to do nothing,
Like damn, I want to do something. I'm the type
that like to do the hard thing, Like I don't want.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
To do the easy thing then get the glory. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I like to like like deep down like yeah I
did that, Like I don't know how I did that shit,
but that shit, I did that shit.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know what I'm saying. But you want to keep
up with the time.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
You want to stay in tune because like you can't
get left behind. So you you you know you you
wanted to you want to figure out how it works
for you. Yeah, So I haven't really personally got into it.
But I have like people around me that have you

(44:05):
know what I'm saying. When artists call you for some
for some music, do they would have like special requests like.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I need some ship like this. I'm listening to this
ship you did right here. Can you make me something
like that? It's just hard to do. It's hard to
do that. You may make me a beat like it's that,
that'sh it hard to do. Like I think.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
I think Pharrell is like a genius set that like
using the same sounds for twenty years and just different rhythms.

Speaker 10 (44:43):
This shit like amazing to me because they told him
like that too. He's because they told me, Man, it'd
be different, but it just be it. It'd be the
same thing, be different, And I never it should be
hard to I always try to do something else. I've

(45:04):
never even saved my sounds, bro, like I make the bet.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I don't have a.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
A pack of like I don't.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I'm not a I'm not a.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Organized producer, you know what I'm saying. Where I go
to my like snares, my.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Kicks, everything I put in my my MP's new sounds,
it's new.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
You still earlier, like just go in and create some ship,
you know what I mean? Yeah, that's dope, just new sounds.
What's your most creative time of the day.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I'll be trying to work early in the day, feeling
like I'm gonna get done, like more shit done, but
I just be going through the motion, don't really get
created till late, so I kind of could waste the
whole day just and it's not doing nothing as soon
as like, you know that night set in yep.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I bean, you ever had to hunt somebody down for
your money as an independent and like, hey, y'all, what
y'all this ship going out and jumping out the gym?

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Yeah, I think I'm I think people I'm notorious for that,
you know, but hunting people down for your money speaking
up about it, you know?

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Uh yeah, they hate when you speak up about your money.
I did you, I heard about you. I know about that.
Just you know the cash money thing, the millie thing.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Uh, you had to chase them for a million royalties
and that's the royalty part. Uh, even even the production feed.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Go front.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
My my mixed engineer, who who I still fuck with
till this day. He mixed the MILLI He was cash.
He was Lil Wayne's engineer. He told me the story
once we got cool. He said, because cash money. They
called me for the sounds to a MILLI to get
the track outs, but I ain't got my production fee.

(47:24):
So he said, I'm the first nigga that he ever
heard tell them no. I was like, nah, like nah,
I ain't saying to that. And he heard it through
the phone. He's like, man, I've never heard nobody tell
them no before.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
That's great. Did they say they were gonna kill you?

Speaker 4 (47:45):
I'm still alive. I'm still alive from the front stupid.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I think it's just I think it's like respect like.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Every every like if you're man, bro like, if you
a man, even if you gainst whatever it is, Niggas
want their money.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like you got kids,
I got a key. Like it's not really a thing
where it gets to that level.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
It's more like if you're saying like you could be
you could you could talk to against the nigga a
quote unquote gainst the nigga however you want to when
it's real.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Like this is what it is. Hey had to buy
a nigga finger off by some ship like this bro
somebodyguards for this very famous label that's going through it
right now.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
The head of Okay, I know you're talking about now
when like that happened? Though?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Do do they just passed that office man that ain't us,
that's them other people? Or where's the label?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
That's always excuses, But they're their own entity.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
That's why they have the choice to either pay you
or not. Royalties is like the album seal of it.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
So how many units is sell depending on your point,
So a producer can get it's like zero to five points.
Top producers, top tier producers gonna get five percent five points.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
They're always going to come in at a two three area.
But depending on who you are.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
You deserve the five you know what I'm saying, because
like it's probably your song that's selling this project, you
know what I'm saying. So cash money deal, their deal
is set up where they get the money first, and
it's their responsibility to this, you know, make sure everybody pays,

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make sure everybody paid, and it's just something that they
weren't doing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
So it's like.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Unless you said something to them and they ain't really
like and most people ain't, so they just kind of
like winning, you know what I'm saying. And if if
you take them to court, you're gonna be spending money,
then you're gonna settle. So they still win because they
they made so much, they just gonna they're gonna settle

(50:34):
with you, you know what I'm saying. Like that sup so,
And there's layers them niggas got layers of attorneys. So
it's like you kind of like if you were just
a nigga out here, you'll get tired of going through
the ship and you might just settle or you might

(50:56):
not even bother yourself with the ship. Like when I
when I spoke out about that ship, so many producers
was like, man, man, we wanted to say it too,
but man, we didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
We didn't want to ruin our relationship.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
And like, my thing is like I don't know what
a relationship is, Like it's like a pimp whole relationship.
Like the relationship is it's like pimp, Like they're pimping
and you're holing, give me relationship.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
And that was brought to your part by Backwood from
The Frost.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I never understood.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I don't want a relationship where I'm not you're not
paying me, so like, I don't care where.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
This is going. That's not a relationship that I think
about that.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
It's a pimp whole relationship. If you're cool with that,
you're cool with that, you're cool with just being cord.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
You know it's cool. But I'm not. I'm not. It's
the only time like that. Some shippen tell me the
good see after that, tell me a good story.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Tell me a time about when the money was right
there you wouldn't even finish it, but just paid.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Beyond the heart to put.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
The ha on way finished, give me two more hours.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
They pay fans. Ain't even putting no keys on this bitch.
Hold on, let me get on my key. Yeah, it's
like the top tier artist.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
That's like the top top tier artists are gonna get
you paid. And it's like whatever you're asking for, they're
gonna pay it.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
They're gonna pay it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Like you could wanna, you could wanna, you want, you
could want to botter Like now I don't want to
bout it.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
I just want to pay you. What's a botter? Like
a favor for a favor? Barter about it? Yeah, you
got it. You remember your first day being rich? What's rich? Though?
Like when you were straight, when you felt rich, when
you woke up and had the wrong thing. I ain't

(53:15):
felt like Semon from Indonesia. I ain't. I ain't. I
don't feel like I ever been straight. I've had.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
I've had some money, but like the thing is, money,
money goes, so you never have enough money, Like you
never have enough money.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
So I never felt like so comfortable where I'm just straight.
You got a whole shopping is a like you get
like ten years ago, you.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Run through millions of dollars and not like, damn, what
the fuck you can't?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
That's what you'd be like after you run through something.
That's what you can do. That be done? What the
fuck done?

Speaker 8 (53:59):
You did that?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I ain't you know how did you do that? You
know exactly how you run through some millions? I made
a million dollars. Have you spent all of it? I
think it?

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I think it's all gone back hood hit it from
the front.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Financial literacy is a real thing. It's like a mental health.
You gotta get some money first. Then that first.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
If you ain't never had no money and you get
some money, you're gonna fuck that up. You need something
at least two times dams some money at least two
that first piece getting sucked up. And I'm a conservative nigga,
you know what I'm saying. So that's really like damn
what I what I buy?

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Like what I get.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I see people that's not conservative, and just like they
go crazy. I'm like, damn, they must have some money money.
You know what I'm saying. I'm a conservative nigga. I'll
be like, damn after the money gone, like, man, I
should have just bought I should.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Have just.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
It.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Just it's like damn, because that's a mother looking another thing.
He got a lot of pretty baby mamas. That's Jack.
Be watching your life, bro, Jack is I only got them?
Got the friends only got two? He said a lot,

(55:24):
got a lot. There was a lot of kids.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Man, I got five kids. I always wanted more kids.
I wanted like ten kids. Though you can still do it,
mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I don't like.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
I don't like the time when you know, I feel
like bringing the kid in now, Like I think the
kids gonna be mad at you later on, Like what.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
The fuck you had me for? Nigga? Shit fucked up
out here? Whether you reach.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Yeah, like I don't, you know, like raising kids with money,
like it's they developed a sense of entitlement, Like it's
it's different. Like I want my kids to come from
where I came from, Like you know, go through some ship,

(56:11):
you know what I'm saying. That's the world we live
in up Like, but when you get money, always your idea, Like, man,
I don't want them to go through what I went through.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Ima do this, So I'm gonna do that. You know,
you ain't even have it that fucking bad, Like we
be really thinking the stories. But nigga, we just grew
up black. Everybody was fucked up. Nigga. We all it
was fucking in the eighties. What your mama was making
thirteen thousand dollars?

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Yeah, my mom made twenty She was lost, had the
big TV at y'all crib once I got some money, Like, damn,
my mom only made twenty thousand year.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I'm like, raised all of y'all before Texas.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
My mom may have a yall back then. She started
working by the time I turned out eighteen nineteen, Like
my time. Now I got to have a life too.
I'm getting a job. And that was brought to you
and part by Backwood.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Man, you get looking back at them childhood pictures, Man,
you get the add in that ship up Christmas, fifty
dollars of Christmas we all had every God damn man,
what a hundred dollars the little Army man, that shit go.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I don't think, man, my first hundred dollars My grandma
gave it to what when I was my grave.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
That's a lot of That's a lot of, man. My
first I had a job. I had worked two weeks
from man, my mom, I had worked two weeks twenty
dollars one time, Like God damn nah, it'd be like
it'd be like probably every once in a blue payday
when I'm growing up in the little little leagues and

(57:51):
playing basketball, something card come out going to the the
y c A or something like twenty hours. That was
a funny this weekend. But it's like crazy, I'm like rich.
That's a lot of nhilators. It's a lot of candy.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Twenty dollars used to be the ship though. Man, the
whole twenty old twenty dollars Bill, Man, you break that motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
They have more money than you had before you broke
the twenty you were like, ok, I got a ten three.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
One, that's that's that's it was enough money to go
to the football game, get a hot dog, a drink,
and pull it out your pocket. A man, you ain't
get some McDonald's on the way home. You just kiss
you along.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Ty dollars bro a twenty mm hmmm, bad motherfucker. You
ain't never had, you know, I never seen hundred dollars
though me either.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I had. My grandma used to gamble that somebody gave
you an was eighty seven eighty seven. You had a
home a whole morning with the other with the little
honey break corner. No bullshit, bro, what was your girl?

Speaker 4 (58:56):
I used to be with my grandma gamble and play cards, right,
and so when she winning a whole bunch of money,
she would buy me what the other fuck I wanted.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Because I was with her. I had. I had.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
You was a motherfucking power wheel, the three wheeler, in
the four wheeler. I had a bike, a school, a
big wheel, nigga.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
I was.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Was cleaning up, bro, man, you know what.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
I used to ride in a fucking basket from the
grocery store, pushed out of I ain't never had none
of this.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
I grew a real privilege. Man, it was black people rich.
You had all them toys at the same time, brou
I got pictures to prove it. Nigga.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
I got one picture of me when I was a
kid in my room. Nigga, it's toy stacked up to
the window.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
I had three toy boxes full of shit about myself
just before my mama had any more kids.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I had a robot, Nigga, I had a robot.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Only robot I had I made in school out of
full paper and box in a box.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Nah, Bro, I had a real robot with a remote control.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
I hear you had a nine vote in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Nine Yeah, Bro, Mike Tyson is better than niggas. Mike
Tyson boxing glove.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
I had the Michael Jackson, a little little radio with
the microphone on it that would have been worth some
money today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
In the in the other microphone. All the kids like man,
they all talk about what you had.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
My cousins us used to come over my house and
steal ship. Like niggas. You never had everything I had.
We stole from you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Yeah, I ain't give you was the friend niggas stole
from Oh yeah. Everybody in my whole project used to
be waiting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
On me to come outside because they know I'm coming,
they don't know what I'm pulling out. Man. I got
my first pair of Jordan's for real, for real was
a pair of fives. How my first pair? How old
was you? I had to meet? Maybe nine? Ten? Oh?

(01:00:54):
I fucked him up? Oh Jack, you didn't know about.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Jack?

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
My shoe game legendary. Bro, that's crazy. And the fourth
grade and the fourth motherfucking grade. Bro, you had my
first pair of jay Come on.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
Girls?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah, how you am? I trying to be your friend?
Seventh grade? I was cutting grass on something. I think
I was twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
I was working for the first week of school, my
third pair a new twenty stone every day the first
first week of school.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yeah, you had fine pairs of shoes, Come.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
On, bro?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
And then what I with that next following Monday, Nigga
fucked him up with the motherfucking Nike sandals, with the
with the Nike socks you had. You was one of
them kids, Nigga when Nike socks was the ship to
have you bust out some Nike socks in gym. It

(01:01:47):
was so bad. Niggas was still in ninety sock. You
know you rich when you got the extra ship. That's
like a Motherfuckerike.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
To what kind of cross you had, Jack, what they
ain't gonna go that way?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
And put out. I used to have a lot of ship.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I had a great childhood, man, but I used to
work a lot growing up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Like I had a whole lot of hustles where you
worked at man, I used to cut grass. I used
to find that stuff yourself for yeah, oh god, yeah,
I used to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, but the fourth Grady wasn't working though. Nah nah, nigga,
I used to fuck I was. He was selling breaking
doing yards.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
And said, boy scout.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Cutting grass, Nigga. I got my first lawnmower by myself
when I was ten years old.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Niggas is selling boy scouts just like you saying the age.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Now. It sounds crazy, but you got to keep in mind, bro,
when we was ten, eleven, twelve years old, we.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Would leave the house and be gone all day, even
come homely nine o'clock with a Parker full of money.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
I ain't never had to come home cutting great. I
ain't never had to come home.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Sh That's what I'm saying I ain't had to come home,
had to come home. I don't remember ever having to come.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Home, like take your mama saying you got to be home.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Never nothing, never you did so you were How long
would you stay gon Well, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I ain't know if I wanted to stay gone, but
when I wanted when when I got about twelve, thirteen
or whatever, even ten in Milwaukee, Nigga, I can stay
out till the light come up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
If I wanted to till the light come up. You're
trying to say sixteen o'clock in the morning. You did
thirteen in Mississippi. I can stay out for four days
if I want to Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Different, bro, you stall likes long as somebody hear from
you somewhere you just called them in no cars, as
long as somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Friday, you might ride the bus over your till you
see him. You see them still over there. It was never.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I was one of the two older kids. My Mona
has six kids under me, so she worried about them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
I mean she had to feed you that night.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
She ain never really had to feed me no more.
Since I was about thirteen. Wow, I was already that
lawnmower thing. I stole a nigga a lot more. Had
my uncle painted damn and mold yards.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
No, but back in the day, bro, you could run
up some some money. Couldn't got damn cut grass all
this he's from. Yeah, it's cold as fucking you from
our part the morn the morning. There's a lot of
niggas up there. It's some of the baddest motherfucking women
ever seen. I had. I went one time for it show.

(01:04:34):
It was a bitch and my show looked like a
couple of time with the fat booty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Like the cartoon went on the moment. It's some rich
ass houses down there too. I was coming in there
left and right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
They look like a little slate niggas. Though ain't no
niggas in them houses. I ain't see. I ain't really
see wealthy or not wealthy, but people, people doing good.
Till I moved to Atlanta, that ain't in entertainment. They
just got jobs, doctors and going down Cascade like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Man, let's whole blocks. Yeah, nice houses, the whole neighbors. Different.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
They were talking about different money in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Man, it's different, nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
I'm from telling about a couple of thousand fifteen twenty
thousand comeing to Atlanta. The nigga tell about one point
two mio. I was like, damn, they got a different
conversation for real, young nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
My my uncles and grandpas though we were from Mississippi
and Memphis. You know what I'm saying, That's what my
uh north go to the moors just because my uncle
started that's where his congregation grew.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
And you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Yeah, not not a megachurch, but he's like popular, you
know what I'm saying. So that's the only reason why
we I was even born in Iowa, you know what
I'm saying, because they left there in their teenage years
and he grew his church there, you know, pastor and

(01:06:09):
that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Do you ever go back and get back to our Yeah,
I go back. Well, my mom my parents still there, man,
So I always go back. I just went back a
couple of months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
It's crazy because, uh, these people hired me to host this.
I think it was like, uh it was a mental
health fund raiser or something. It was like local talent
and I was just introducing the local talent.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
And one of my best friends that I wasn't really
talking to no more. The nigga got cute like ten
ft away from it. I didn't see that coming. Ain't
seen nothing, Damn, bro in your home.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
I was like, I just was hosting this event. We
hadn't spoke to each other. We fell out with each other.
Damn the nigga. They said, the nigga came up there
to talk to me, like to make ship right. I
seen the nigga, you said. I seen him, crazy bra.

(01:07:24):
I seen him walking.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I just seen him.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
I've seen him walk because I know his I know
his his walk, like I think that's him. I didn't
see his face. I just seen him walking, and like
there was like a container that was in between where
he and me. So I ain't see nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
And you just heard this. Bi just hurt by. At first,
we thought it was like a firecracker or something. Why
everybody always think it is a firecraft.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
That's what the crowd was saying, because when it happened, nobody,
like you know, when when niggas shoot, niggas get out
of there like nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Nigga just chilling. Nigga's just chilling.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
They're like all'so firecracker the hosts get on the mic
and he they knew that it was a gunshot, but
the crowd kept telling kept all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
The fire cracker is a fire cracker, like nigga. I
know the difference between the fire cracker and the gunshot.
But we're still just chilling. Then all of a sudden,
like ambulance come in and they even did the yellow
tape and all that, and before we can get out,
we blocked in because the wild part, like the yellow tape,

(01:08:34):
got us blocked in. So I seen somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
We started talking, which is a mutual friend of the friend,
were talking about him, like he's like this, they's such
and such, comeing, come and how let you are?

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Like nah, He's like damn, he asked me where he was?
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
And we just talking about him, talking about him ten
minutes and he's like, shit, what you finna do?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
It is like I can't do shit. I'm locked.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
I'm blocked in and shit, I gotta wait on until
they moved this shit. I said, what you finna do?
I'm finna go get something. You get a drink, and shit,
just hit me when you leave. The niggas walking across
the field. I just happened to ask somebody who it was.
I didn't have no I didn't I didn't think I
knew who this nigga was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
That this happened to. I didn't have no clue.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
I kept hearing rumors of like, although he's over, like
he's laid over there. I kept hearing him say he alive,
he ain't alive, he's fighting for his life or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I just happened to ask my cousin who was there,
like who is that?

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
And she was like, oh, I got this. I forgot
his name. So she went over to the cop, asked.
Cop came backs like it's such and such. I said,
what the fuck such and such? I'm like, man, what
the fuck? It's my best friend from there. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
The whole time, like we was just talking about this nigga.
It was crazy. So that's the last time I went there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Then, See, I took I took, I took my my,
my people with me though, you know what I'm saying,
So I had protection there but my aunt when we can't.
When I came home, my auntie and you know, my
moms was saying and people kept saying, man, I had
a feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I had this feeling that something was gonna happen. What
was buddy into and why y'all feel like, oh man,
you know it'd be like some whole No, hell no,
I'll never fall out of ship holes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Nah, I might fall out of you principle. It was
like one of them things, like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
You use the word friendship loosely.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
You know what I'm saying, you really know who's your
friend for real, cause like your friends, like I notice,
our relationship is always competing with like everything competitive, womn
like everything everything I do can do better.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
It was like one of them things.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Then once I started producing, he wanted to do it,
and it's like because I'm not, I'm not like over
there with him. He feel like he feel a way
like because he played video game. I don't play video games.
I'm in the studio, and I feel like, if this

(01:11:26):
is what you want to do, you should be over here,
like you want me to come over there. It's like
I'm not that type of friend. Like I'm not the
type of friend just to waste time friend played.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I don't play video games, so like your day is
different from mine. I'm like in here just doing this
all day. We're still cool. I'm still I still fuck
with you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
So it was like one of them things like just
to I feel like it like some jealousy envy type things.
You just can't have them type of people around you.
And it's like after like giving the person the chance,
after chance, and it's like the the energy that they
put out, it's kind of like it could get to
a dangerous place. So I'm like, I just like I

(01:12:11):
just left it alone after so many times, like man,
fuck this shit. So I just stopped talking to him.
So I guess, like, you know, he came up there
to make it right, you know what I'm saying that question.
You was up there for a mental health event.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Why were you a mental health event? Why were you
qualified to speak at this event?

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
Well, it wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't a speaking event.
It was like fund raiser. It was like local talent.
So me being who I am from there like they
just hired me. They just you know, reached out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
To me through.

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
Social media, you know, see if I was interested in
hosting a party, I mean hosting the event.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
I was just asking because I was wondering if he
was an advocate for it, suff mental health.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
I feel like it's like the era I come from,
Like hearing the word mental the words mental health is
like a new thing. Like I feel like we grew
up like this. It's like regular shit. Yeah, definitely, you
know what I'm saying, Like the things that people talk
about now or advocate for or try to fix or

(01:13:17):
things like this kind of like natural regular shit that
we just it's real.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Definitely. I agree with with the friend.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
And he probably was a cool dude that you probably
rock with, but all that competition stuff, and I got
a partner like that that I had, you know, do
away with because of competition and I think mental health.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
I'm like, you can't say that to me at this age.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
You got to Yeah, yeah, it's like we're not really
twenty seven no more. Absolutely, And I've been rocking with
you for years, like you said, chances like I really
rock with you. But the competition thing is one that
it's dangerous and your mental health this you gotta be
mental health talking to me like that, you know, definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
He gets dangerous, Like a person like that can like
actually cause you harm man, Like I know what you
better get away from you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
I get away from him, I know, and you mental health.
I only feeling like nobody. But if I go to
feeling like that, exactly why am I exactly? Why? Yeah? Yeah,
more like I'm not I don't understand why we're not

(01:14:39):
friends no more? Yeah that was brought you in part
by back for hoods. Hit it hard from the front.
You put hard in that this roll around to the bank.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
He never he never listened to like he's saying, be
in the music, but he would never listen. But he
would use you couldn't he would use me, but he
would listen to me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
You know what I'm saying. What's using you?

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Did?

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
He not listen to nothing? You say that would never
listen to me? Yo, would never listen. It's just.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Trying to show or tell somebody how to do what
they're trying to accomplish. But they have their own idea
of what or how they want to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
But they they use you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
In campaigning themselves, which you don't agree with. Because like
in music, like regardless if you my friend or my family,
like I gotta like what you're doing, you know what
I'm saying, Like if you're making music, I gotta like
it to actually do something would to help you if

(01:15:54):
you want me to take if you want me to
take your project to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Or JD or these people.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
I gotta like it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I gotta, I gotta like it because they depend on
what I think.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
This is my relationship that I created from my work
that I put in, you know what I'm saying. So
I'm not gonna waste their time with something that I
don't really feel like deserves their time. But try to
like act like you're hating on them, Like, man, just let.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Them be the judge of it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Nigga, you don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Please me, so you're holding me back. You're trying to
hating on me. Nigga hating on me. And it was
a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
This nigga hating on me. You don't want me to
you don't want me to win, you don't want me
to this, you don't want this, and you don't want that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
I'm the best kept secret.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
So it's a lot a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
I took him to a he did like five years
in prison.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Shit, we was young, though, like you know, all my
friends so crack, you know what I'm saying. So he
did like five years only should have did two and
a half.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
But that is his attitude. One day we're gonna talk
about how Cracks save the hood, but.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
He did five years he got out, he came down
here to visit me, and that was like around Hey
Ball and m JG video the No More Drama.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Get to the video shoot. Pull up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
As soon as I pull up, I see Frank Frank Nitty,
another producer Nitty beatsn't really I didn't really know Nitty then,
like I don't really know him, but because this is
a product, like this is a video of some production
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Like as soon as I got out of the car,
he started talking to me. What kind of car you
was in? I think I had like a BMW or something. Yeah,
that's why you start talking to you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
So you just start talking to me, right, So then
he we go in this car. You're playing me shit.
So we get out the car talking to me again.
Then I hear something like from way over here, you
know how you be hearing ship but she ain't really
tune in to what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
I hear something going on.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Then I turn, I turn and look and it's him.
He's singing to a girl, like really saying he's not even.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
From here, you don't know. Like literally, we pull up
to the venue, brother going to I'm taking him to
a video shit, oh you took him there. I took
him there and you turn around. This is an experience
that I'm trying to like Earththane. He's over there singing
to this girl. I know the girl, will you be mine?

(01:18:56):
I know the girl? He don't know. I know the
girl he's just seen. He's just seen nobody and just
started singing. Just started singing to him like I turn
and look, and he had just finished. He had just
then he say, he say, I see I read his
living He said, well what you think? What you think?

(01:19:18):
And she looking at me because we know each other,
and she like she like.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
I'm already like man, like damn bro, So I take
We go into the venue, We go into the h
into the video shoot.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Did he sit there from singing the hose a little
bit of video shoot? Makes me look to you so.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
Because this is what he wanted to do, like he
want to sing, rap, model all these things.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
You know what I'm saying, Produce.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Were going to the venue, going to the video shoot.
Did he there a couple of people there and the
whole day. Like Diddy was kind of not like because
I ain't signed with him, kind of like he's always
that he.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Wasn't just put me in the video.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
He was like, yeah, I got you, I got you,
I got you, I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Nah, I got you. You know what I'm saying. So
we're standing there, man, this niggas. This when uh making
the band was on.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
TV, so the niggas knew who Harf Pierre was. He
see Hard Pierre over there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
The niggas like, that's Harf Pierre. I'm finna go holler
at him. So it's like slow motion. It was like,
I'm finna go holler at and.

Speaker 8 (01:20:41):
I was like his back well, I was like, no,
you missed her shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
He turned around and he said close mouth, don't get
fit m.

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
Damn and see at that point, at that point, I
was like, he on his own life. Fuck it, I'm
gonna take myself out of it. What I what I
feel about, I'm gonna take myself out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Let him do his thing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Man, the nigga get over the half. I see him
over there, he's chopping it up with Harf and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Then he do it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
I'm you hen like he put me in it when
I said not to do it. See use me but
not listening to me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
You can't be on at bad work sites talking to
these niggas and pointing out the nigga that you came
with that they know that don't make sense. That don't
make sense. It's like talking to me. Why did you
talk to him? He just said he liked it in
the car.

Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
Hall told that nigga, like I guess he went over
there and hollered at him about Miles Shine John.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Clothes or some ship, and the nigga came back. He's like, yeah, man,
he just told me to give you, give you my
my portfolio and you send it to them. Now you're
giving me work to do. Camera, give me work to do.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
So the time he was there, he gave me these
pictures and this ship like this is this is ship
that I am inspired to do too. But I don't
do the leg work myself for it, right, So he
left his photos and ship. The next time he came
back to Atlanta, came to my house and the photos

(01:22:36):
were sick.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Right man, as you want how long was he going?
She I don't know. I can't remember how long, but
them photos were sitting there pissed. But you gotta understand,
Nigga just.

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
Told you that to get out their face. He didn't
really mean that. Ship he ain't in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
You don't know what that mean. Yeah, that's mean, Like
really just holler at him. They know me, you know
what I'm saying, Like, why did you holler at him
when you know him? So he kind of he kind
of thinks you kind of messed up his little shot too.
Yeah that damn. So it be shipped like that. But
you're not listening to me though, Like it's like my

(01:23:19):
cousin made a rap song this and me saying, I
ain't putting with.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
T I.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Damn it's out. So yeah, it wasn't left something like that.
And I had a cousin that sued me. What I
took care of this? Nigga do it? He soothed me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
We did this beat together that I got Sierra and Gucci.
Gucci's gonna use it for his album. Gucci didn't use
it for his album, and now now mine. Let me
set it up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Family like blood like music business shit.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
I don't really like the business of it. You know
what I'm saying, so like family music business is really
like being stand up about what the business is. Like
we can shake hands, we could be.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Like, this is what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
This is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
You know what I'm saying. It's really easy. You split
it fifty fifty, That's what it is. Like, I don't
need to do paperwork on you, lock you down. Like
people don't really be knowing what they're doing. It's just
the excitement of somebody signing you is what they be
so thrilled about. And because I didn't actually do paperwork

(01:24:41):
with on me, they feel like you don't fuck with them.
But not knowing, not knowing, you in a better situation
because you with me every day, You going to the
studio with me with bigger like you're seeing everything. It's
nothing high from you, you know what I'm saying. It
ain't like you're playing that much of a role. You
like learning too. So I never signed my cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
So the the.

Speaker 5 (01:25:08):
Song we did the Gluccy Man is Sierra song. My
my people got it on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
What's that game? That poppy last game? Grant Grand THET five.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
This is a sync deal like this is this is
different from music sink licensing is like you get paid
up front, Like you don't get as.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Many copies as this game stale. You don't sell them.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
You don't get all royalties from this. This is a
sink deal, you know what I'm saying. So the sink
deal was like for twenty five hundred dollars, twenty five
hundred hundred. It's a sink deal. No, twenty five hundred.
This is a one time thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
They don't own it. You own the ship. You just
like listen it. You just light as to this.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
We still own the ship. Got so it's just twenty
five hundred at that time. Like, and that's like, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Did he help you make the beat down? Here? We
did the beat together, and you ain't. You ain't get him.
Let me let me tell the story.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
So we made the beat together, you know what I'm saying,
Like he he it's his meat that I heard. I
was like, man, like, let me fuck with it because
you can hear ship like producers can hear something and
make it better, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
So I did my thing. I put my drum and
put drums on it and ship.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
So shit, he's in the studio with Sierra like he's
not out the picture like he's there, like there's nothing
to cheat you on, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like you're right there. You're with me all the time
where I go. If I go to la you're with me.
If I go to Miami, you're with me. I pay

(01:26:59):
for all that you are whatever eating you eat, I
don't eat McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
What if I eat, you eat?

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
Like you're you're with me all the time, Like it's
a bill, Like it's a bill. You're a bill, you
know what I'm saying. A liability, You're a liability, you
know what I'm saying. So the twenty five hundred dollars
wasn't a lot of money to me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
He was in the rate. That was my fault. That
that was my fault.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Like something could be nothing to you, but it's everything
to somebody else's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Right, I'm like you just so it wasn't really a
bit like my my.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
I was looking for it for it to be on
Gucci hour that made more, Like that would make money,
you know what I'm saying, especially if they released it
as a single. You know what I'm saying, Sierra and
Gucci and shit. So that's that was disappointing to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Me, like, oh we just got this thing. This is
twenty five. Fuck it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
So I didn't at this time he had moved back.
Two hour he had moved back. So all the things
that I'm doing, I didn't. I didn't tell him what
was going on. He heard it on the game, right,
he was playing the game because he played game gamer. Yeah, Hey,

(01:28:18):
here's it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Like he's excited with a year like, oh shit, oh
she calls me. She is like, expectations can fuck up
your head. So he thinking, you didn't want to got
a bag for this. He's thinking because the game sold
billions of copies. It's like albums that do makes sense.

Speaker 9 (01:28:40):
So he's thinking like he's already spending his money and
he's being taken care.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Of by a girl he sold. He told the girl
not wrong, so he had to leave the girl to
come with me. So she's already feeling away. So this
is actually something that happened out in the situation. So
it's like they are they're like, oh, ship, we can
get a new house. We can oh ship.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Didn't he get on the phone with me, He's like, yo,
he's excited. Oh man, that's ah, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Man. I just heard him.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
Man, it's just sold this many records, this sold this
many companies.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
And I had to tell him the business.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
I'm like, yeah, about how it worked at those fingers.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
I said, I said, it's just twenty five hundred. I said,
I'm gonna send you some money. I'm gonna send you
five hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
It ain't half.

Speaker 9 (01:29:29):
But you're already a liability man, Like like, I gotta
spend about ten mans on you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
And this is how music business works.

Speaker 9 (01:29:38):
You gotta reach back your money that you put out, Like,
niggas don't be knowing this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
What's the opposite of an advance? That's what you gave him.
So I'm like you, I'm gonna send you this, niggas.
You gave him a disadvantage, deductile. I'm gonna see you
this man.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
And when I said that, he got QUIETA no, he
didn't snap.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
He got quiet on the phone, and I knew what
that silence was, so we go y.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
I was like, damn, then the game hit me to
give me an information to send them the money, and
it never hit me. Then then my business mark, my
business partner, come in the room, he's like, he's like, hey, man,
you such and such suing you. I said, what, so

(01:30:27):
what what what is going on? Like when when when
I fucked with you? When I fuck with you, I
give you the game. I said, you need to get
your own attorney.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Your attorney should work for you, not you shouldn't work
for your attorney because they're gonna run your bill up.
I'm giving you the game, like, get you an attorney.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
I'm not giving you payperwork to sign and like sign
this ship like I'm actually doing right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
I'm doing the right thing.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
So he takes this idea that I'm not telling them
the truth about this ship. It goes find an attorney
up there, and I will you know how that ship is.
You know, attorney's gonna be flattered by swing somebody like me.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Oh shit, we gotta oh yeah, we got a lawsuit.
So the attorney's lying to him because you don't know
the game. The attorney telling him that I made this
amount of money.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Here, he's made he's made thirteen thou off this.

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
He's he's he's made thirteen grand off of this game.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
So in his mind he thinks that I made this money.
With the attorney telling them. But in all all reality is.

Speaker 5 (01:31:51):
The attorney. That's the attorney bill that he ran up.
So he owed the attorney this. And see, because I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
Do paperwork with him, legally, he can sue me and
sue the gaming company. Because I didn't do the paperwork
with him. I didn't get him on paper, so it's
before he did all that. I just paid him what
he wanted. He wanted to settle for four grand, so

(01:32:24):
I came out of the pocket extra money.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
You know what I'm saying, just by not signing them,
just trying to give him game and how to do
ship and taking them in, showing them ship.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
You know what I'm saying. About to say a big number. No,
so there wasn't no big number, but what the attorney
fee was. So the next time y'all went out, did
you pay for us? Did he no? Trying to hit me?
He hit me. I see a five one five numbers?

(01:32:55):
The more air car I pick up. Hey, cuz man, man,
get on. I said, the only way we're gonna be
cool is you give me my money.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
Give we can't be cool, and I'm taking you out
of paying for your flights.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
We can't be cool no more. To just act like
we never were. I'm telling you, no, we can't be friends.
Funk out of here with that. Wasn't like that. It's
not a cousin like that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
With my first cousins, they like second cousin, although they
live across the street.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
But they was like the son. They was like, that's
my uncle's kids kids. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
They're a little different. They're a little different from my
grandpa's kids. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
They're a little different.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
So we know we didn't really grow although it's small
and we like were proximity, we never like hung out
and kicked it like we cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
So if he gave you back to four thousand and
back straight.

Speaker 8 (01:34:10):
Him, tell him that I would told that money give me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
It's not it's nothing that we don't know. If we're
not finna be, we're not need to be on the
phone and kicking and hanging out. But I'll forgive them answer.

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
And it's not him that making these decisions. It's the
bitch he lives.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
The bitch is always the bitch. Come on and never
broke your backwood.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
It's the front. It's like never through business with a
nigga that can't make his own decisions. Never do that.
What if you want to get on the payment plan whatever.
I just need my money. I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
I can't accept your apologies and things tills, so you
won't give my money back. It ain't even about the money.
It's possible, bro, you see me. I was looking that's
right here, man, I was changing your life, giving you.
You never had such a great time with nothing else

(01:35:12):
in your life, but with me, Miami, You've been You do.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Ain't got pussy off my name.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
You hat good.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Bill. I don't have to be spending.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
I could just focus on myself. I'm looking out like
niggas look niga.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
And it was funny because my cousin, his uncle which
is my cousin, got involved. We're sitting at the table
at my mom's house and he I think I just brought.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
It up or something.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
He's like, he said what he said? He's threwing you
what hell now? So he called him on his own
time changed his mind. My cousin calls me like, man,
He's like, man, I'm sorry, Man, I don't know what
I was doing. Man, I'm man, I'm a just I'm
gonna just dismiss this. Man, I ain't finna do it. Man,
I apologize, Man, I don't know nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
I go to sleep, wake up his text. Man, I'm
continuing on with it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:11):
I'm going off, going through with I'm going through with
this lawsuit and and so what happens in between time?

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Like your bitch, Yeah, your bitch is the influencer.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Yeah, it's like, you can't be a real man, bro
if you first of all, you live with the bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
She takes. All you got is your gaming system. Damn,
that's a lot. That's all you got is your game
is just too much? Yeah, yeah, what what kind of
system did he have? He went on PlayStation one. I
don't know what he had that was. I ain't in

(01:36:51):
the games, but I know it was.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
I know that's all he had because like I would
when he was there, I will overhear him.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Going back and forth with his girl, because this girl
Lito some like you know, on.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
Them games, you be meeting people playing the games, and
she having phone sex with a nigga doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
She's seen he's seen. He's nae. He's like, he's seen.
He's seen a new number on the bill, and he
called the number. Man the man.

Speaker 5 (01:37:19):
He's like, hey man, he said, hey man, you know
such and such. He's like, that's my girl. I'm over
here in this conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
I only hear what he says, Hey man, you know
such that's my girls, and the nigga on the other
lines that that's your girl having fallen. That's crazy, you
know what I'm saying. So, so the reason why I
know all he had is a gaming system because I'm
finna come up here. I'm finna come get my game.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
I'm finna come get my PlayStation.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
So she havn't followed me niggas through his gaming system.
That fucked him up. You know, mother, she sues you.
That's what she sued me. What if he say that?
She said, what if you break up with her?

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
It's still like anytime a man is influenced by a
woman making it has no logic to nothing goes against
and goes against what it is like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
You can't come back from that. Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
You should be able to cut as a man, You
should be able to control your system.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Call where you at with that? How do you feel
about what he's just said?

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Man, it's like fun on the fact that he cut
his cousin off for four Rex. Hey, man, you get man? No,
he cut hisself.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Now, I feel a man. Ain't We were never really
in tune like that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:50):
He had an interest in something I do, so I
was like, I try to look out you tutor them.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
I was just trying to look out, like, oh, you
want to be a producer ship And he's like, man,
it's cool if I come down there. I'm like cool.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
It wasn't nothing like we just grew up in the
same sad box and got our pampers changed and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
And we fought together and struck. Now, it wasn't none
of that wasn't none of that. I treated him the
same way.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
I treated like it was the same ship, like it
was a little couz And it was like, I ain't
never hu hang with you like I never hung with you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
It was another thing, you know what I'm saying. So
the fact that I took I actually took when because
you have an interest in this what I do? When
you did that any of your kids showing any interest
in music? Yeah, I hold a song like this he produced.
He produced a couple of songs that I did.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
You know, I kind of like delegate man, like if
if if I fuck with you, I just although I
don't need it, like man, loot the drums.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Do this, do that?

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
You know what I'm saying, Just to tag your name
on it so you can it can jump start some ship.
But did he twenty seven?

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Hey, I remember this boy was like this and he
was cutting his hair on this. He was he big,
his heir doing his thing. Now got all the hose.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
He was on. He on hustle and flow also like he.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
Uh So when they when they get the established producers,
they asked the established producers if they have any anybody
under them, and they work with some of the contestants too.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
So I.

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
Slid him in there in there so when you see it,
like you'll see Nostra Domics, that's his name.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
I'm gonna go watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
It sounds like some good, some good entertainment. Yeah, yeah,
it's cool. You didn't let that white girl on that
chump you off, now, did you? She wasn't white? Oh?
Well who that from Detroit? Oh that one in that
left m hm, that one girl, the big girl in
the lyft, she's sewing. Jack d used to suck.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
Well one nigga. I used to tell that puts it up.
So you hear me, how you got to it? This
s is straight up through the mill.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
You hear me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
I used to turn her upside down and everything. Put
in the power bomb this girl really right?

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Damn there five hundred pounds she's sewing a little.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
It's like four fifty dollars. And you know I work
out every day. You're gonna check my Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
I think that was about I thought it was about
full ninety five. Yeah, I'm good for it. I'm good
for it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
I six to nine in her face. Yeah, she be
eating his boot cat. Yeah yeah, you squat Yeah, Qua
squad squat's squat on it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
Squat this nigga, I'm a squatter squad Jake, What the
fuck grow with you? Crazy? Hey dog, I'm d I.
I'm a d I.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
You definitely are. I mean you go out for the tunity.
You know what I'm saying. I'm looking out for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
It ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm about
community and taking all people to a whole other level.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
If they won't fuck you, we'll fuck with you. You
got how they risk to know how heavy they are?
Don't stomach That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
I feel they stumm and once again, Yeah, I'm into
big girl.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
It's one of your favorite you know me and this
nigga goes Fred Work way back. You know what I'm saying.
I was smoking with that nigga when he first came here. Right,
get out of here now your whole legend, bro that

(01:42:50):
nigga be outside meeting folk. Jack Threw had this one girlfriend.
She broke up.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
Who broke hey? Meanwhile, back at to be what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
Jack? Go ahead, kub what happened? Then she broke up
with him?

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
Don't know?

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Did you break up? Hood? I know you called her treating,
but did you break up with her? He called her treating?
Still got broke up? Yes, she broke up with him,
so she got contact.

Speaker 5 (01:43:20):
Mother.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
Your lady love you for catching her cheek. Do I
look like a nigga lady that leaves?

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
Yeah, she looked precisely like that, bro, like you look
exactly like a nigga. I knew how to get left
by the lady.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Yes, I knew it was her when he called me, dude,
I flipping a d M all that this nigga crazy, bro,
I do not go in a woman d M.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Who was in a d M?

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Which one on comedians all of them, damn, but the
one that sucked me up was the nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
For so for real, damn you even give them a fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
He was want to give the candy coat of rain
dropped and that was my love, Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Chasing man.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
I don't even worry about it was you called her
cheating and she broke with you the nerve out together.
I should have never been in the d M s.
I should have let her do a thing that was
her business and that was my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
If I could do it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
All over again, I would have let her did had
away with me. I was at some point you got
to take accountability, right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Jack, that's real man ship. Absolutely no funk that you should.
You knew that in the beginning the ls on social media.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Hey, you know they say you can't turn a hold
into a housewife, But maybe I don't want a housewife.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Maybe you just want to. I just wanted to hold,
and I just wasn't mentally ready yet to handle a hoe.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
What if you married a whole Jack, and she just
gradually graduated into being a housewife.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
She lose all her whole ways. Are you gonna leave it?
I was trying to do that. I was trying to
make this happen.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
It almost did it again if it wasn't for those
pisky kids and the name Scooby Doode, those meddling little kids.
We were working on this show right now though, right, Jack,
We're finna find me love.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Though, right. I thought that you said that holes make
some of the best housewife.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
They clean up good, they cook good. They they they're
real good of love makers. Now homemakers, they raised kids good.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
They they're real great to talk to. Great.

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
You know your skill, amazing social skills. You just got
to find out where you are in their mind. And
I didn't know where I was in her mind. Yeah,
I was boyfriend numbers you know what I'm saying. When
I was trying to be boyfriend number one. And you
learn from this, you you you might have well stay
at six.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
He was married to her. Yeah, I was married to her.
He was number six. I was number six, damn number six.
He just decided to marriage He can't have anybody, right, No,
just you at least you ain't better better, No man,
imagine me better man. You do look just like busses Man.

(01:46:32):
You miss Wayne.

Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
You what you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Till the rat caused? Midy give me a ride? But
they got open now, Yeah damn, but we got that
show coming out though, right for the love of Jack,
For the love of Jack, twenty holes competing for my
fettion all in one house.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
It ain't gonna it ain't gonna all be holes. Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
We're gonna throw maybe two or three, but there ain't
nobody de finally getting no house for twenty olds.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
Okay, okay, because they gonna put a whole that's a
lot of face.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
You got a squat on hey one percent, and I'm
here for it. I'm here for it, and I need
to do some more squats anyway. I figured out what
I'm looking for to what I bring to the table.
What dig balls, kissing I kiss real good, that make
breakfast real good.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
That's not gonna make him interested. I'm looking for a
protector and a provider. Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
That's day that they ship, that's I'm trying to get
like them. You look like a man, think like a woman.
That coming soon, so your ship look like a man,
think like a woman. You got to get inside their head.
You know how many you got to get inside the
head before you get inside the You know how many all.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Of us be mad?

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
We're talking like a woman. Why this ship? I think
you're want to something though, talking about shot man look
like a woman. Damn. It was right there in front

(01:48:09):
of us the whole time, the whole fucking time. The
problem is we ain't trying to get inside their mind.
What about what they want?

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
Huh?

Speaker 9 (01:48:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
If they're telling you to bring ninety percent of the
ship to the table, and they don't want to go
fifty fifty, what the are you supposed to be doing
paying one hundred percent?

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Damn? Yeah, give them the sun, the moon, the stars.
If that's what she wants, that's what she wants, damn.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
And if I want her, that's what I gotta do,
And I gotta do what I gotta do. Jan Put
that woman first, Put that woman first, Put that woman first, bro,
That's what that's what we got to do.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
Man, I'm six, but I'm six. I was a six man.

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
I was a six man on that because because I
was going against the grand I was trying to be
the only one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
What if she don't just want me? I she lets
her hair all the mother But y'all just like share
the duties though, why would you? Why would you do?
I'm going to share whatever she wants to share here
on out. From here on out, I'm want to be
what she needs me to be. Jack, So she's getting
like six hundred percent, She's going to get whatever she

(01:49:20):
wants from me.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
If she wants a nigga that's six y six by
all means she deserves it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
And I'm gonna help her find it. And we gonna,
god damn go find this nigga together.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
If she looking for a nigga with six did he
need six figures and ship? You know what we're gonna
do that. We're gonna get online and see what type
of professionals make that type of money. And we're going
to find that other nigga that can help provide for us.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
You did, Jack, Lord ain't gonna sell a no copy.
They said the same thing by Steve Harves. Shit, I'm
trying to say it now. So I'm giving you a
reason to say that. I told you so you you
you I feel like that supporting me right now? When
you go off to be extremely successful. Need you to
use this moment. It's motivation. Oh you ain't never gonna

(01:50:04):
be shipped that book of yours. That book ain't worth for.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
Oh yeah, you won't sell one youd damn con Oh yeah,
I'll show you call those you just wait, I'm gonna
come back.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
I'm gonna be really rich. I'm gonna have a woman
that loves me. I'm gonna get a big house and
everyone will know my names in your dreams. Pal, come
you wish? Hey, just wait and see. Hey, man, that's
your problem. You got all the talent in the world,
but can't nobody tell you nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
Jack?

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Huh huh.

Speaker 8 (01:50:37):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
Maybe I am stop, Maybe maybe I might be blind,
But you know what, I got a heart.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
And that's something. You may have good looks, you may
have money, you may have.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
All the hoes in your you're your disposal and fame,
just everything you've ever wanted in life, But you know what,
you don't have? What?

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
What? What don't you have?

Speaker 4 (01:51:11):
I tell you what, Jack, You go out there and
you're gonna make a fool out of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
Like a man, look like a woman. Oh what you say,
think like a man? Man? Look like a man. See
it's stupid. It's just so stupid. It's Jack. It's just stupid,
That's what it is. It's just a dumb idea. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
Nobody wants to read that crap man, that psychological bush.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Joke.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
And you were winded so I can see what my
my book was called. Look like a man, Think like
a lady. Look looks like a man, Think like a
catch with me? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:51:56):
Hat?

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
Oh he left to see. Nobody believes in that ship, Jack,
It'll never work. Granted, what do you think?

Speaker 8 (01:52:09):
See?

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
You know you don't even see this happening for yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
This is a this is a complete polar opposite from
the last time. What do you think, Well, that's what
you want for your life. I'm here for it, man.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
What's what's coming next? Bangladesh? I know you keep some
some hits in rotation. I've been working on my own thing.

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
Oh, before we wrap this up, man, what was your
thoughts on the Grammars this year? That just happened the
other day. I ain't watched the Grammy's way. I seen
who won. I think it's well deserved.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Uh, you don't want a few Grammys, y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
Five?

Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
As a matter of As a matter of fact, after Grammys.
After after the Grammys uh aired, I had a segment
on the news.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
About me.

Speaker 4 (01:53:08):
So everybody seeing the Grammys, if they continue watching it.
It was on TV across the nation at about a
five minute second segment about about Bangladesh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
Man. It was yes sir, Yes sir, and that was
brought to hit it roll around to the front. My thing.
I think Kendrick deserved what he what he got. Uh.
They finally gave Beyonce our mother, our mother, coach.

Speaker 5 (01:53:37):
Carter, motherfuckerach, cowboy, although she had to do a different
genre of music.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
It's I don't I don't know how she feels about that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
Me personally, I don't think it will hit the same
like because like she didn't win for you know, R
and B or just greatest Album.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
I feel like she had to go into this genre
for them to give her that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
But you never like bigger though. If she's doing doing
a whole nother genre and she gets a Grammy in.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
That, I think it says a few things.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
It's like, well, you gotta do this to get it,
Like you can't do what you're doing to do it,
you know what I'm saying, you're doing the foundation of.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Music, urban, urban culture, music, R and B music. You
could she could win Album of the Year for that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
She had to do country music to win an album
at Bangladesh, we're trying to win the Grammar for the
comedy Grammy.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Man, can all eyes on us? What's up? Man? You're
gonna put that together for us? Yeah? You already said
he can make anything sound dude. Yeah what we we
we well, we're working on that right now. Is it
with this litter? You already got a pack for you? Good.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
We're gonna let you get the whole five points because
we ain't no fuck niggas. Yeah, you produce the ship
you're gonna get. We're gonna get our money on the
other side.

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
Anyway, we're gonna get that twenty million boys from Bowling
before we recording, even Gordon the studio, I'm making sure.
I'm just gonna be upfront with the artists, brou whoever
work on this project. Jack, I'm making y'all saying a
shitty record deal off the top.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
Because it's the first time work for hire. That's the
only way you're gonna be successful if the first deal
ain't ship. Yeah, you're gonna You're gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
It's honest.

Speaker 4 (01:55:35):
Just no, you ain't nobody making no money off the
first the first hit except me and banking the dish.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Don't call me because I'm gonna act like I ain't
got the invoice and ship, and.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
Then I'm not to sue you for four thousand Just
fucking with me, because if you ask me more than
two times about this money, I'm seeing your ass for
four thousand dollars off the rip O found you two
dub Hey, your name is you A?

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
I'm looking at eight. But you know what, don't call over.

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
I think that if we do that ship and do
some like pour some nipish ship at the same time,
say twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
Dollars albums go old school with it, Nigga will have
to sell so many god damn albums to make Jack
throw it. Then you die. Somebody gotta die.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
No you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
You we do he producing me close to you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
You die, go off and die. I'm telling you what's
going on.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
How should I die? How should I die? Matter? Do
it matter? It's gonna blow up the album. I have
no heart attack. Squatting on the bitch face. That's really
that's gonna go, that's gonna gona pray, it's gonna happen.
That's gonna be a MTV news Thatt go praise hey dog.
Anything to take my team to another level.

Speaker 9 (01:56:52):
I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
It's fucking crazy. I'm eating some pork tonight. Let's go
all eyes on us. I'm wrong with you, man, Jack
of food. But but it's incredible that a nigga one

(01:57:16):
from making this song the damn good song though it's
like hell of a song, like if you didn't if
they didn't tell you. It was as like a creative
way to.

Speaker 4 (01:57:29):
Like, who's made a commercialized hit record this song?

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
Like ship.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
Playing everything commercial which one? Yeah, that was he was
the man in the country when that ship came out,
it was okay, hit them up, no vasselone No.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
But I feel what you say, like this.

Speaker 5 (01:57:56):
Is the biggestest, biggest song of the year. It's still
in in the day like it did the first day
it came out.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
What's that one the easy had with that pay your Doctor?
Here's another popper strike in his back washing real motherfucking
g mother.

Speaker 7 (01:58:13):
That one wouldn't there really there? It was released, it
was records like this record is that the world scenes
without the whole world in the day, the real scene,
the whole GrimAge was like it's so bad like a

(01:58:34):
nigga is swing. Hey, if you drinking the record label,
that's ship raise.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
If you Kendrick, do you bring out drinking the super
Bowl or do you bring out do you bring out lilt?

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
Wayne? You don't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
No, no, no, I mean little Wayne wouldn't come out
like yes, he what he said it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
He said, I come out of you let me get
in there. I never heard him say.

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
He said it on on a what's that show called
first tape?

Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
You said it on first tape? He said, I will
go because I just wouldn't. I just I don't know,
like if it if it ain't mine, I'm not gonna
come out.

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
If I said if I feel like I should have
been the one to perform, I wouldn't. I would feel
slighted if I just come out there like I don't know,
I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
Calls would you come out ear because just like you
said earlier, yeah, looks like it's my city right the
hose one.

Speaker 4 (01:59:42):
If I don't do nothing, I'm gonna walk out and
let the whole seem Jacob, you gotta do it, walk
past a nigga real quick and dath a mugger.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
Not that he needed to do that, but I'm just
saying visually would definitely come out, just.

Speaker 4 (01:59:56):
As letting motherfuckers know it ain't no hard feelings or
nothing mean is connected to Drake.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
So it's like, yeah, but Drake fucked this girl in prison.

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
Yeah, the money they still combined, real good.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
You still get the money. But I'm gonna I'm gonna
it's not just a bit like you said, you fucking
my bitch. I'm gonna stay with you. Which wis your enemy?

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
Yeah, y'all ain't gonna fight no way I get money
from you, though, I'm still gonna stay with Yeah. If yeah,
if it would be disrespectful, if Drake was his boss,
you can't tell your boss what to do this bitch,
I'm expanding the brain.

Speaker 4 (02:00:41):
Yeah, you can't feel no type of way. If I
do have to go out here right quick, he's gonna
feel away. He can't think that's he's nothing but feeling.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
From little one. He ain't gonna get four thousand, four
thousand dollars. I can't believe you ain't gonna let that
ship go. Man, for your cousin need that full thousand man,
he said, Look, it's the principle.

Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
I all agree to your.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
Cousin need that four thousand, man, it's cool. I need
it to one dollar. That's how to rich day. You
gotta count every dollar.

Speaker 3 (02:01:20):
Jack, listen, listen, if you let you, then will you forgiving?

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
No, and if you let you, but that's not a
relevant is not attracted. But if she was attractive. No,
hold on, don't mean for my dog. He don't want
to fuck bitches that cousin. I don't want to about
the money.

Speaker 3 (02:01:41):
And at this point letting me bitch. Oh oh, I
see what you just said like that, that's what you're
gonna do it anyway? He don't don't don't don't.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
Let me do ship my family members of my friends. Bitches,
they go against the code if they broke up with
the man.

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
Okay, think about your cousin, Jack, Your cousin ain't never
really had no bitch that you wanted.

Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
No, No, my cousin got three fine as baby mama's man,
I ain't gonna even fry three fine ass baby mama.

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
He play boy, you smash he have a baby with him.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
I wouldn't try it. I wouldn't try, but I'm just
letting him know what he got good taste. If it happened, No, ECC,
you'll blame yourself. Wouldn't I asked him. I would ask
him if he cool with it? No, if you if
you don't mind.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
You ask your cousin. It's cool. If you fuck it,
I would do it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:34):
If she if she like she liked me, just then
I would like, hey, play boy, I think your baby
mama's like me. I don't know what to do, Jamaine Jackson,
that's why everybody love you, Jacksons.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
You they just know you. You're in a different type
of nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
And hold on, this is you just brought up some
real good ship right now, Jamaine Jackson and Marland Right.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
No, it was Randy. It was Randy.

Speaker 3 (02:02:56):
He fucked his little baby brother baby mama.

Speaker 1 (02:02:58):
And how did that work out for the got two kids?

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
He broke up with her two he broke up with Yeah,
they broke up.

Speaker 1 (02:03:05):
That's just we moved in the house. She was still
moving around the house with many bitches in the world.
Yeah yeah, and you're the Jacksons. Yeah yeah, run around
kid by Randy in the house. He's just letting the
girl have a way. That's a bad example. You're kind
of like under her influence, under a spell. I wonder

(02:03:27):
who liked her the most. Jamaine, the nigga had a
first or second?

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
He probably maybe he was jealous of his brothers because
he was Probably she probably would like go talk to.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
Maybe he was always in competition, always in competition, but
he was always liked that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:46):
But he was way younger than him. Jamaine is fifty.

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
But you like, the younger kids always get more attention
than the older niggas, So probably growing up in the
in the family always got one ten he was, he
was way younger. He he was way young. Left the
Jackson five because Michael was famous as fuck. He left
them all.

Speaker 3 (02:04:08):
He left because he just married to there go to
his daughter.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
But what they got to do with the Jackson five?
You leaving the group Michael first though, No, he didn't know.
He didn't you know, because he he went solo first. No.

Speaker 4 (02:04:23):
Seven, Jermaine left the Jermaine left first and went solo
and win solo.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
Let's get serious.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
He left, he has Jermaine left and didn't make hardly nothing.
They didn't make let's get serious to the eighties. Yeah, yeah,
he had some other ship. It was seventy four daddy,
Daddy's home, Daddy's home.

Speaker 1 (02:04:45):
Yeah. Yeah, Jack know that Michael Jackson ship. Yeah yeah.
Or they went to CBS and seventy five. Yeah, and
he didn't go. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:04:54):
So he's fucking with Hazel. Yeah, he everywhere and he
didn't want to leave, and she left him on the
victory to her because he.

Speaker 1 (02:05:01):
Had always the girl influenced. That's a girl broke up
the Chason five bn. She left this nigga. I don't
blame the girl. I blame the nigga. He didn't know
no better. He was trying to suck up the Barry daughter,
That's all he was doing.

Speaker 3 (02:05:18):
He thought that was gonna get him, like on the
same level as Michael if you if you you stick
with me over here, I blow you up big as Michael.

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
But the nigga didn't have Michael talent and all, nothing
close to it. Damn he couldn't move on.

Speaker 3 (02:05:35):
I've never seen him do that. Seen I have seen
Malin do that. That nigga look crazy, he looked retarded.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
And what was the hairstyle that that the cake on
the head things.

Speaker 5 (02:05:48):
They should have had one kid, just Michael, because there's
too much pressure on the other ones.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
But you can't have a j that's no Michael Jackson.
Without the Jackson five, it won't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
He needed them. They gave him strength. If they wouldn't
have been up there singing, he wouldn't have tried to sing.

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
And I really think Jackie Jackson is Joseph Brother's brother here.
I know he singing on one song, Jackie saying, nigga
were grown a ship for a long man lit.

Speaker 1 (02:06:21):
All his hair, your older hell out of there. Fifty
he was twenty three.

Speaker 3 (02:06:28):
Mike was fine, No, he got he was born in fifty.
Michael born in fifty eight.

Speaker 1 (02:06:39):
Old.

Speaker 3 (02:06:40):
Jackie, Yeah, Sigmundsko Yeah, he's seventy five years O. God,
Jackie Jackson seventy five years old.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
Didn't work with Mike, and he was sleeping in the
sleeping in the word with Mike all.

Speaker 4 (02:06:56):
I think I believe that I was getting I was
going to one day work with Mike, but he, you know,
he passed.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
I feel like I was. I was on that path
to work with Mike. I think might like with like
what I do I think I would get his attention
with what I do?

Speaker 3 (02:07:20):
Who was the artist that you know? You feel like
if they would have had your beats, they would have
had a better.

Speaker 1 (02:07:25):
Career all over. How hard is it to get a beat? Though?
It ain't hard to get a beat? Doctor Dre said,
you the hardest nigga in the world to get into
this people. You know that what that is is people
don't want to tell you where I'm at. It's whoever

(02:07:46):
you're talking to, whoever told you about me or brought
you what that is like a middleman taking something to
Dre for his own benefit and it turned into something
else where. Now Dre wants to meet me, so.

Speaker 4 (02:08:06):
He's not in position to control it no more. I'm
not signed to him, and he knows what we meet.
He's out the picture. Yeah, because Doctor Drake kept seeing
that nigga like what you boy, exactly, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
Get a hold of me.

Speaker 4 (02:08:26):
Niggas don't Niggas don't pass it on. They don't make
it happen. He had to go to somebody else, not
the nigga. And when he told me, he's like, yeah,
May said he named the nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:08:38):
He's like, yeah, man, just yeah, may he never. You
know what I'm saying, what type of nigga this nigga
is that he's named one of them niggas in industryt
nigga industry as fuck. So when y'all finally caught up,
y'all got in there and this work, that's a good question.

(02:08:59):
He so.

Speaker 4 (02:09:02):
He wanted this beat that I made, but actually I
played it for this guy to get dra on the
song because I got this song.

Speaker 1 (02:09:13):
I got this particular beat has ice Q, Game, Kendrick, Snoop,
and Nipsey on it, and I wanted and I wanted
if I wanted Dre on it.

Speaker 4 (02:09:30):
Yeah, he was feeling like Dre would want it the
which would be beneficial for him because he's like A
and Lauren, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
So when he took it to Dre, he didn't tell
him what I wanted. He told him what he wanted,
and Drake took liking to the beat and now he's
trying to find me.

Speaker 4 (02:09:55):
So when we did catch up, now he was like
interested in like working with like under not under him,
but like signing type ship.

Speaker 1 (02:10:06):
You know what I'm saying, Like like really presenting like shit,
you could use me to get everything. You know what
I'm saying is that like a production deal type thing,
it'll be.

Speaker 4 (02:10:17):
Like signing to him where it probably gets like I
see I see art, I had a producer signed to
me that it's signed to him now, So all the
work that he does is really him doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:33):
It's just his face. You know what I'm saying. I
never like, I just never. I just never wanted to
be under an f a control of something. But let
me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
You had his like with Ludicris, that was your first joint.
Then to see him go on to be one of
the biggest artists of all times like.

Speaker 1 (02:10:59):
I did first is Taken album. Yeah, what I'm saying
was this shit.

Speaker 4 (02:11:03):
Surprising to see how big of a star he actually became,
because you know it's this levels to this ship, this
nigga on a whole nother planet. Well he might pop out,
do three shows a year and just you know, make
movies for the rest of the uh surprising. I don't
think he was surprising, I think and I ain't saying

(02:11:25):
I expected it, but I wasn't surprised. I feel like
Chris got a good enough work ethic and he's smart
and he raps good enough to like do what he did.

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:11:39):
He don't get enough credit. He's so underrated. Well back
when he was on Rap City and Ship, his freestyle
the Motherfuckers was crazy as hell man all the different people.

Speaker 1 (02:11:48):
I think people will recognize his lyrical ability. I think
you do.

Speaker 4 (02:11:52):
Yeah, I think you think disconnect is like it's it's
just rapping though it's like how good you can put
metaphors and words together. But in today's time of rap,
I feel like you gotta say something. And when you're

(02:12:12):
not connected from the right place of like growing up,
like if.

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
You didn't grow up like with content, like with like
if you wasn't brought up in in the hood, or
like if you like you ain't really like Lula just
really talks about parties, money, and it just doesn't work

(02:12:37):
right now, Like people don't people don't care about the
metaphors they want to hear, like you say something of
reality and real. You know what I'm saying, Like fucking
parties money is not enough. It's just rapping. So that's

(02:12:58):
that that's kind of where you get the Luter can
go there. He's done that on Child of the night
and it's there. If you're not from that, That's what
I was going to say, somebody like, how to pull
that out?

Speaker 5 (02:13:13):
That's what I'm saying, you know, how to pull that
reality the reality rap, not metaphor rap.

Speaker 3 (02:13:20):
When y'all say reality, y'all, I got it, like real,
got you even if you don't like the future see it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:27):
You'd be like, got it, got it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:29):
I thought you was saying something else, like like on
some Kendry type ship, like Ja Coble type ship.

Speaker 4 (02:13:35):
That's not what you got you not necessarily that that
works too. Yeah, if you're saying stuff that ain't just
how many holes you got? I got holes.

Speaker 3 (02:13:50):
And got this much money, it's like taking one of
them old guys right back in the little chunk get
beat up like.

Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
That's yeah, I'm getting It's just not gonna work.

Speaker 4 (02:14:05):
It's a dated subject matter, you know, just just not
nothing he could pull from.

Speaker 1 (02:14:12):
When you rich, and when you get rich, you start
out talking about that. Then you get rich for real,
you really have no little beat down.

Speaker 4 (02:14:20):
Nothing to pull from, you know what I'm saying, Like
most artists first project is the most you're gonna get
out of them.

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
After that, they're rich. That's what that's what a little
baby going through.

Speaker 4 (02:14:36):
It's like I'm not I'm not a little baby listener,
but what I hear is like he was once in
touch and now he's rich. So it's like the music
is different. He's hanging with different people.

Speaker 1 (02:14:50):
It's like get Richard I trying to the second album
like Candy Shop. It's like get rich and not Trying
was a real.

Speaker 3 (02:15:00):
Shit.

Speaker 5 (02:15:01):
It's like the title get rich or die Trying. It's
like everybody can relate to that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:15:08):
But once you get.

Speaker 4 (02:15:09):
Rich, you kind of put all your best shit on
that first out, all your emotions, all everything that you
wanted to say.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
It's over with.

Speaker 4 (02:15:21):
It's you're rich, like you're you're buying thirty million dollar
houses now like you're hanging with different people.

Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
It's not the same no more. You have nothing to
pull from, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:15:32):
So you got your shit be.

Speaker 4 (02:15:34):
Kind of like dwindling off. It's a dwindled off because
you're rich. It's not the next nigga, the next new nigga,
the next new nigga. That's why rap careers don't last,
because if you're not out casting something where you're transcending
and changing the landscape. When you're talking about big subjects

(02:15:59):
or like creative music, doing arena music, doing ship like that,
You're not going to survive out here.

Speaker 1 (02:16:09):
You're not going to survive when you first came out popping,
like you.

Speaker 4 (02:16:14):
Could survive if if it was a gradual build up,
But when you come out like ah, niggas after that,
niggas don't want to see it no more.

Speaker 1 (02:16:25):
Ain't that fucking crazy? It's only a rap that that happened. Though.
On the other side of music, they can do that ship.
They could pop out every year and get the same
love for that. All you need is one because I
think it's.

Speaker 3 (02:16:38):
Like a cool a coolness, a cool level.

Speaker 1 (02:16:42):
What that rap brings to you have to be y'all
say that, right, y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:16:48):
You have to be into now like in the moment
cool no now, y'all right, yeah, right, I tried to
grab after that.

Speaker 4 (02:16:58):
It's old with like even Tip, Tip got rich and
his he went from money and hoo, hooks with Rihanna
and songs with M and M. Like it's cool, but
you know, niggas, what made you? You went away from it?
You know what I'm saying, and Tip still got that,

(02:17:19):
but he wouldn't do it.

Speaker 5 (02:17:22):
He'll do it like he'll he'll get a thug on
this song and a ship like that because he knows
like how this ship works, he knows how to put
it together.

Speaker 1 (02:17:32):
But that's not in his heart. It's not there.

Speaker 3 (02:17:37):
Hear some ship from me, like, damn, nigga, don't you
quit rapping? Don't you stop rapping? I swear no, he
can rap.

Speaker 1 (02:17:43):
I'm telling me.

Speaker 11 (02:17:44):
I tell him all the nigga can rap ever stop,
but the heart like the the and the heart like
like once you get rich, rapping is like little like rap.

Speaker 4 (02:17:56):
He ain't even rapping. I ain't doing shows no more
nigga rich. It's like it's like the stepping stone to
get to where you're trying to go.

Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
You know what I'm saying. It's nothing that you continue
like going to.

Speaker 3 (02:18:08):
Courch Collos out there, cats somewhere, open mics somewhere, and
it just cannot go to it.

Speaker 1 (02:18:13):
It just can't pull up exactly. It just can't do it.
Case I'm gonna go trying to talk myself into it here,
get it over the mic, over stage, when you got
it going.

Speaker 3 (02:18:28):
Out it is like right now, though the colors were
like that gap, that dash, but that gap between you
and the cats right now, what does that feel like?

Speaker 1 (02:18:37):
I feel like I put it.

Speaker 3 (02:18:39):
I feel like I put in twenty thousand hours on
stage already. I don't need to put in twenty thousand
and one more.

Speaker 1 (02:18:50):
I'm good. That's why I went so hard when I
was doing that all them nights, just hoping and wish some.

Speaker 4 (02:18:58):
Nice it worked out, some nice that it didn't. That's
what if they're like, but it ain't dope. See that
ship right there, it's just like just going to the
open mic type shit. That's the ship that just show
you how to how to cook this ship.

Speaker 1 (02:19:12):
Then you don't necessarily have to keep doing going on
stage to work on some ship. You could just create it.

Speaker 3 (02:19:19):
And it be ready how you want it already, kind
of eliminate some of the you know what I'm saying.
Once you get on the stage and you performing and
you see how to what's the feedback?

Speaker 9 (02:19:29):
You know?

Speaker 3 (02:19:31):
It's like me, I ain't sitting up making beats all.

Speaker 1 (02:19:34):
Day like I used to.

Speaker 3 (02:19:36):
Be.

Speaker 1 (02:19:37):
It is just beats, like just beats.

Speaker 4 (02:19:40):
Like when you're making beats, you's just thinking like you're
just thinking like in quantity, a quantity of something, like
something's going to happen. But now it's like, I just
want to make songs.

Speaker 1 (02:19:55):
You know what I'm saying. I want I want to
I can manipulate. Just let make a great song.

Speaker 4 (02:20:01):
I don't want to just set up and make twenty
meets all day, like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:20:05):
Yeah, so it's just stepping stones, like you're just not
doing the same thing. You don't have the heart or
the love or a passion like that. You get you're
trying to get somewhere else. You know too much now
like when you didn't know nothing, that's the best time
to create, Like because you're you're oblivious to all the bullshit.

Speaker 1 (02:20:27):
Yeah, you get to that level, you know exactly what
you gotta.

Speaker 4 (02:20:31):
Exactly now, like I can eliminate all these hours and justice.

Speaker 3 (02:20:35):
You don't have to search for it, like you know
what what machine to go grab to get that certain
drums or that certain kick or then you got the.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
Keyboard for this. Sometimes you be doing too much. Yeah,
less is more and he brought backward. Keep it simple. Yeah, man,
we can sit here. We just had a five hour
interview bro, we still ain't talking about it. Look at
all this ship.

Speaker 4 (02:21:02):
I don't have my research department to research. Tell me
about lobster mango lobster mango fruit? Uh lost the mango Bucci.
That's my clothing line. That's that's my merch. I actually
got shirts for y'all. You brought us up five grammy chain.

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
You know that's hard. You brought me one. I got
you one. And lobster. You know it's lobster is like
it signifies like the bottom, but.

Speaker 5 (02:21:31):
It's an expensive meal now.

Speaker 3 (02:21:35):
It is like coming from the bottom to the top
type ship.

Speaker 1 (02:21:37):
Look, we got you some ship too. Yeah, that's dope.
I appreciate that little eighty fast South merch. Yeah, appreciate that.
I already know. I already seen it. Are you talking
on too? Oh? Got some medium? Sure? Give me that one?

(02:21:58):
Which one? Give me the loss? Only got a large
and a medium? You got a three? Hell no, Jack,
your big back, have your size. That's okay. This is
good for him. Let me give me a meeting now,
you goad. We're supposed to get the medium. This is
the medium, right, Yeah, let me get there. Jack, your
back still big? I get you. He needed you good Yeah,

(02:22:21):
here you go. There you go put that with good
material to.

Speaker 2 (02:22:26):
This mother.

Speaker 1 (02:22:28):
Hey Jack, this is the only thing I know with
two shirts on the back. We got a quote.

Speaker 4 (02:22:32):
We got a quote from Michael Jackson on the back.
It's the joy of doing something phenomenal, which I'm on now.

Speaker 1 (02:22:40):
I feel like everybody here to like speak for that.
You know, absolutely we're making history in black history much bro.
This is your first tast stopping through.

Speaker 4 (02:22:49):
It's actually a bust down grammy like no, but his
first time ever being done bust down grammy, a bust
down like come on, man.

Speaker 1 (02:22:58):
I'm gonna put I'm winning this ship. M Jack yours you?
Did you feel the print on that minus? Yeah, I'm sorry.
Just not used to getting quality. Man, I gotta get
out more. You definitely gotta get them. I got you though,
I'm gonna get you one. We gonna meet in the studio. Yeah,

(02:23:19):
Bangle of Dish. It's your first time stopping through here, man,
don't let it be at last. You know exactly where
we're a man eighty five South Show, Jack Thriller, Chang