September 8, 2023 • 60 mins
Karlous Miller and Clayton English sit down with the one and only BIRDMAN!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
To see how y'all come up, bro, Like I respect it, Bro.
I respect it as just being a man, a black man.
This shit hard for us watching niggas come up and
then they respect its gratitude and respect.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
And I saw y'all come up, specially this DC. The
DC nigga watched him and just watch what y'all doing. Man,
That ship respectful, bro, very very respectful.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That ship means so much coming from you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm a student of the game, blood, so I watch
it all Bro.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Really from the South, so it's like you're responsible for
that soundtrack, real you get it and really like you,
like you and Peter only like icons that we had
that to really seen they can come up after money
and get that ship and really have that ship, and
y'all really changed the game. It's like all the over
interviews coming out, like y'all was the ones who really had.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Someone with the first name to get money. I was
watching what that nigga was doing, like you're heard me,
but I was already doing it before he was doing it.
But when I saw him take it to another level
like he did, and that ship just made me, you know,
he was like for me, he was like it was
like a petitive for me, like I wanted to be
(01:19):
better than them niggas. I ain't really never had no
problem with them niggas. I just felt like we was
better than them niggas and not no shade weight, just
to say that if I could do it, another nigga
could do it behind me.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Everybody know I'm the biggest bird Man fan. So before
we even get into any of this ship, it's some
ship I just got to play. You know, we got there.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I flew out here. I'm want my brother told my
nephew Nino, and I'm like, man, I'm on your time. Man,
can I get a.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Light look the first ship I want to hear it's
Big Times. Yeah, the song called Big Times because that's
out of all the ship Now, that's what I created,
Big Time. I already know. Hold up, don't give me
I'm out first, and don't give me ship yet because
this like I've been knowing you all my life in
(02:14):
my mind, Big Facts. Because I'm gonna tell you what
made me a fan of me was when I first
got the first Big Time of city. As soon as
I put that bitch and you, I ain't no wrap.
I'm a game spill. That told me everything I needed
to hear. Right, you got that ship he always got.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Cue up y'all, y'all talking.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm we're not bullshit. Man. You know your time is
very valuable.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You gotta just like I was. I wanted to do this,
that's my choice. I called you.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Because I thought whoever it was, I thought they were
bullship trying to get into hot Visa.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
This is my best friend, my right hand. And if
Visa call it this ain't no.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I ain't no shit. Naw.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I called you. I said, a nigga, I wanna come
do your show. Nigga fuck with y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That was it. Play this ship right here.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's be just on the hook, il.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I already know my little b GZ on the bus.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
For the record, I just want niggas to know that
my that nigga official cash money ain't no capt in
that year of me. So ain't nobody else he gonna
ever sign with besides this shit. So I'm bringing all
this shit back together. So b G signing the cash money.
So y'all ain't got to hear coming back to ay
it's a fact.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Give me one more. DM Jay Wain, Come on, man,
I need to hear this hypnotizing cash money. Like if
me and Barry Man was ever riding in the drop
head feedom this the ship will be playing. Cause I
like how much shit you talked on this one too. Man,
you were crazy this one of them.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Once and I been doing it was about thirty four,
thirty five years damn?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What was what happened? Again? Hold on? I know, I know,
you know I I don't you know it? Go ahead,
what is it? Thirty two? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I started that street to right cause I had I
had a mouthful of goals at fourteen years old, thirteen
turning fourteen, and I went to Beach. I was always baby.
Baby was first, that's my original name. And I went
from B three two to Bubba Beatre ye very man Stunnach.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Hey, man, you can call me what you feel.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Pick in one of 'em, man, one of them.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Man, happen at the Platinum Homer with the platinum girl.
You know what happened Jay over with the platinum be
Plat and chain. Oh sure you love to Oh now,
I always wanted to ask you about this. Now you
ain't talking about back in the day though, off the ramp. Yeah, yeah,
give me one of your favorite off the ram stories
(04:51):
cause I heard back then off.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The ramp, it's Melfami project. I I grew up on
Sarah Torg and the Routland the f which is across
the street from the Meltha Meinie Project where I grew
up at was a a hair wrong, what tricks posto?
All that went on my block. So it was kids.
So my pops used to make us get off the
block cause it was a lot of everything going on, shooting, killings,
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So we had to go in the project, but my sister,
so my sister stayed in the next quote, off the ramp.
So a ramp was where you get from one side
of the project to the other side of the project.
So we used to just play on the ramp. But
a lot of shit went down on that ramp. You'll
get your head. You on that ramp at the wrong
time or night, you'll get killed, uh like. And if
you ain't on your shit, if you hustling, a lot
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of shit gone. But the Melthaminie Project was the first
project that I that I was exposed to as a kid.
Then I went to the Magnolia Project. Then I went
to Valon Street and I learned my hustle in the
Magnoia and Magnolia told me everything.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Now it's a legit. I ain't never heard you denial,
no confirmedies. M that you been rich since you was
about fourteen yea.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I had a million dollars at fifteen years old. I
had ten cars at fourteen years old. I was already
stunting with cars as a youngster. I had fourteen cars
the whole project. We all booming, we all popping motor bikes, cars,
jerry fucking holes. By the time I was fifteen, I
had w you know, ten fifteen cars and we were
just balling. We were just doing our you know.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I I got it. I love some fucking cars. I
wanted to ask you, I see you, what all you going?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I had as for this as a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, what's your what's your favorite old schools?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I never had a old school in my life. Word,
I never had old school, and I always wanted I
saw you in the red thing, and I was like, man,
I'm gonna tell a nigga, want buy that car. Just
saw you in a red car. I said, I wanted
to tell a nigga, I want buy that car. I
ain't never had a old school in my life, ever
I wanted to. I always was modern.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
If it was you was getting it, you was getting
as soon as it came out.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I wanted that. I never had a old school in
my life.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I bought a old school from fresh That's what fresh.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Into Fresh w he had a right, nonah, he had 'em.
But he from downtown. They not like uptown, so downtown.
I ain't gonna say all new us niggas ain't never
had old schools. Yeah, well we come from uptown. We
ain't never had old schools now w nah Right, but
Fresh he old school like a motherfucker. Everything he ever
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ride n ue to be like, man, you tripping with
that old school shit. But that shit used to be shy,
and he spend a nice penny fucking with that shit.
But I ain't never had old school. Shut out to
fresh Man.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You want of the pustles that would getting car like
two years before it come out.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, I wanted that new shit. Yeah, Uptown we just
want that new fly shit, you know, cause we ain't
really had shit. So once we went to getting calls,
we wanted everything. So we went crazy like nigga. When
I was able to get some money about cars, I
went crazy. I ain't caret hiding into that. Yah, I
ain't care if I ain't had no more money, it
never mattered to me. I want all the cars, we had,
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motor bikes. We was just like the popping Project. We
had everything caused the brawls and we was a bunch
of young niggas, young niggas fifteen sixty years old.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Just fly. Yeah, that's fucking wow. I think about the
big ball and shit when you say that, shit like
so that w that aind been going on for you.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Nah, we were really living like that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's what I'm saying that they like It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Cause we saw older niggas who did it before us.
They was living like that then the Cadillacs, the fly whips,
you know what I mean. So we wanted to be
like the older nigga. All I ever wanted to be
was a dope boy. I ain't care about no nothing
but the dope boy. I wanted to be the like
the most popular dope boy, but all the goals in
his mouth, with all the cars, the jury. I was
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already prepared to die out go to the penitentiary. I
was mentally ready for that as a kid, cause They
always always told us we were gonna die young, so
we was ready for that. That's all I ever wanted
to be was a dope boy. Cause my posts one.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yuh see, I been. I've been following the story till close.
I feel like I know you pop, Mr Johnny.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was my everything. When I lost him,
I just I just turned to be without. I ain't
know what I was gonna be. And uh, you know
in life, like you gotta make the right chances. If
you make the wrong one, you gona end up in
the wrong places. Yeah, and I I I made the
right choices in my life, buh cause you d my
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mindset as a youngster, I wanted to be where they
was at. I really was prepared to die. I was
ready to go to jail and die mentally. But you know,
being incarcerated that shit woke me up and made me
wanna do something different. And then I was watching Wayne them.
There was young niggas who was following my path, and
(09:36):
I changed them niggas lives, and then I felt like
we could be something.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I remember in a lot of the uh, like a
lot of the song you used to say. I feel
when two thousand come, it's gonna be all by Wayne facts.
So you saw this shit coming like the monster being created.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Man n The little nigga just had that ambition. He
wanted to be a superstuff s and he had the
he had the actors to be a super stuff. Juvie
very successful was a rapper. Wayne is very successful as
a rapper. And when DG come home, he gonna be
very successful as rappers, right Manny Fresh, He's very successful
(10:11):
at what he do, right, Drake very successful at what
he do. Nikki very successful what she do.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Drake and a whole nother fucking sex very successful way
he do.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, Future very for successful what he do. Nigga's up.
Nigga's very up, bro Man, How.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh Wayne, how did you how when did you notice
like hold on, Like, how how long before you notice, like, uh,
just seeing him around? Or was it this motherfucker got something.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And we knew that, we been knew it. We probably
about right when we formed the Hot Boys. Shit Like
he was like the first nigga, the elver, the last
nigga leave. All of 'em was living with me since
they was like twelve years old. I was like a
baby raising baby. So all of 'em was with me
and all I used to do it was just mak
ingem rap all day and right raps all day. But
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we just saw something different than Wayne. And he was
the youngest. Right, we knew Juvie was a stark, and
we knew BG was a star. BG was a star
for there was a stock right right then Juvie came,
then Wayne came. But we knew, we knew we had
something with 'em. But you know, we was young. I
was young myself. Shit, I signed my deal. I was
twenty years old when I got thirty million dollars. When
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I got that, you know, we still was We felt
like we were still dreaming, just young niggas out there.
We still was still in the project.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So shit, thirty million up, still in the projects, still.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
In the projects. Five business, I went about six business
and we still was in the projects.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Man, this the shit you don't get to hear. Man,
that's wild.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's a fact, man, No, Captain.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Didn't know they BITI was laid out probably too. Man.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I was city love us. Man, he was gonna play
with us. They don't nigg gonna disrespect us. Ain't no
niggas gonna na man. So it was like it was
like the home. It is home, like where we come from.
Is I feel more comfortablehere I come from anywhere in
the world.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
For a fact, I feel like that j that Soldier
Rag album was slept on, but that was the come up. Yeah,
that that got the That that got the hola fuds
on the South. That shit caught fire.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Na yea, and yeah it did it called f jew nigga,
that be a that nigga Juli a bad man.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Bruh, cause that she's still a bad.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Motherfucker early Fire. I watch him every day. I watch
him cause you know, that's like one of my best friends, Jewlry,
like one of my closest partners. Every Yeah, you know
Wayne Forever my son. We super tight And I talked
to BG like every day. I'm super tight with Future,
I'm super tight with Drake, super tight with Nick, A
lot of 'em. I'm still super close with. But that
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nigga juven that nigga bad man. He's still a bad
mother fu But I watch all of them still be
super super successful. They very prosper still today, Like they
make a lot of money. Bro, That's what we did
this shit for to be who we be. And who
we are. That's what this ship built on.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Bro the roster, crazy man. How you put that all
the blocking movie together? Hey man, all the block of
two right now, right what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm really super super excited about the movie, man, And
like we put a lot into it. Bro n being
young Boy is one of the stars, main stars films.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Bring that shit back, Man Block and it's a classic.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Big class and I know it's a classic, and I
wanted to make sure that we make it traditional. And
I ain't wanna really start shooting till BG come home.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Hell yeah. And he is a street legend in his
own right. Like you said, he was the star first,
Like when you first signed him, did he just immediately
take off for it?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Just thirteen?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
He was thirteen?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Right? Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Jesus was like he was around for like a year.
And then that little nigga just got on the mic.
One day we was at fresh House and I went
to the store. When I came back, Jesus had to
make about six seven songs to chop a city. I'm like, man,
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that little nigga cold and he was so young and
so advanced, and right after that we just cut him loose.
He was like fourteen years old, and he just he
was advanced like a motherfucker with the street life, and
he always been older than his age. So after that,
the next day we did we did the whole album
like two Street as Chopper City, and shit, it was
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history after that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Man, that shit amazing. How Fresh made all them fucking
ass si huh.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
In his house. We ain't even had a studio. We
was called in fresh kitchen.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Man. I heard some shit. Man. They said he made
the all y'all hits with only about eight sounds.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
For the fact he kept it real simple, but that
was his choice. See me, I'm I'm like, I'm I'm
one foot than one foot out. So I'm like, Nigga,
whatever you.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Do with that shit.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm I'm banking on the nigga cause a nigga turned
me on term. So I'm like, shit, I know Jesus
don't want rap. These little young niggas won't rap. And
Jesus just took off. When I come back, I won't
gone but an hour or two. Man Nigga had knocked
out six songs. Man Nigga did the chop of City.
I'm the one named the Chopper City. I named it bg,
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I did all that shit. I was just naming baby gangster.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
This is what we was riding to, man, on that
comedy shit, going to shows. We listening the cash money.
That's our soundtrack, that's our mindset. That's where we trying.
You know what I'm saying. We hear you say the
You know what I'm saying, I'm finna buy a platinum
football fit. You know what I'm saying, trying to put
platinum eyebrows on the bit.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It was like, you know, seeing y'all come up like
that and always been my second home.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I stayed out here five years with young thug man.
It's my pottinger man, nothing but love and respectful thugger.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's a real nigga. Give came out here and did
that Rich Gangs ship man, and we flipped the whole
game when we came with that Rich Gangs ship man.
That ship was you know, Man, that nigga showed me
Atlanta in a whole nother way. Man, Atlanta always been
the second home to me. But when I can't fuck
with your thug, he showed me the real side of
the day. Man.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Man, how did the young rappers find their way to
burn man, cause I see you pop out of you
throw a verse out for a few motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But like I'll be finding my way to these niggas.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm really not hard to find this. A few niggas
beas and see told you me, like I understand, I
found my way to you to find you with them.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm gonna send you all the times out of like man,
birdman coming on this motherfucker. I ain't know how it
was gonna happen, but I said it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It'll talk yess what what I really threw? And then like, man,
I won't I wanted to come. Man, I like to
see niggas coming up. Man, that's what this shit built on.
Word empowering, That's what we built on. But this shit
ain't never been easy for us. Oh our people, Man,
shit been ah, niggas get a ride, we gonna ride it.
That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So I gotta ask you this, man, you had one
of the your your your deal, you going down to history. Yeah,
fucked up the deal for anybody after you, cause you
chose the option that not a lot of people would
have chose to stay independent. In facts, A and worked
the major how you did it? Like for the people
(17:47):
who don't know, just speak on how you how you
did that, and and bet on yourself and you won
on this shit, man, turn it down. Jail in this
shit right here.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
But I just felt like I lost everything already, So
how can I give you anything when you ain't work
hard to get it. I lost my mama, my daddy,
my brothers, my sisters. I lived in boys' home, I
lived in Canada, I lived in I was adopted by
white folks. I just was I had a hard life
(18:17):
coming up, bruh. So I felt like I lost two
much to gain 'em little. So I wanted to keep
all my shit. When I went up there that was
offering me fifty fifty deals, I wanted to accept it.
So I wanted to eighty ten or ninety ten split,
and you know, other niggas paid the way. I got
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to show respect to them, dudes. They did this shit
before I did it, So I just felt like I
could have a longer run than them, cause we was younger,
and I felt like I could last longer than all
of 'em. I personally felt this way as a man,
as a youngster that I'd be the new the new
wave of the game. And honestly, we held hip hop down.
When Niggas was saying hip hop was dead, when Niggas
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wasn't fucking with hip Pops, Nigga was saying they retired
and left the game alone. We we held hip hop down,
and I just felt like I just couldn't give up
what I believe we lost the lot.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
These are the movies that you studied, though, it's like
taking that chance.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
A lot of people would have took a gambled it right,
and I had to lick.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Was said ninety ten right now.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
But it was like eighty five fIF hold up, man,
hold up, no, man, come on, man, I I've been
in the game thirty plus.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm ninety ten right first, eighty five fifteen when I
first started. That's sh cause I had a P and
D deal which caused a pressing distributor, and I paid
for all my marketing right, so I owned all my masters,
and I still own my masters and own all my shit.
So I had a which is called a P and
D deal, so it's called a pressing distribute, which was
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eighty five fifteen.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
So that's all you needed them for was just stress
this ship and get this shit out.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
But the ship took off so fast.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So my first album I put out was four hundred
Degrees and it sold ten million copies, which was Juvenile
and it had it had a light. That song was what.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
You gotta understand. The time four hundred went down the
road singles for the next two years. Yeah right, the
greens was still dropping like albums don't have that kind
of light.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's sold fifteen thousand in the first week and ended
up selling ten million coppies.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You know outcasts, all them boys did them type of
numbers and jewelry up there with them niggas with them
type of numbers. Juvenile was one of our biggest selling
artists still to the day. It was knocking off ten
seven five. Yeah, he ain't never sold under five.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Dam huh. Hey man, man, I bought it the records
j'all and never got through respected. You know what. Another
favorite part of cash Money records for me, Ziggly Wiggly.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
He retaing it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They always talk good ship though, man. I'll always had
some good skits though.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Now it was I I get a skips, got to
get a skits too, many Fresh, but Ziggily was from
my hood, right, so they knew him from my hood.
But Fresh had the idea though, of the skits that
was all Fresh.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We we was like man Fresh tripping with that boys.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Shit.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
We didn't really care about that shite the fire, but
Fresh knew what he was doing and we had to
stand down and let him do what he and he
knew what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Hey, you had the way he said, Man, he'll come man,
fuck you you said what I said? My sister tell
me love you? Shit you up? What now? Billion? You
and the sold a billion.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Records, alsold over a billion records. I sold over five
hundred streams. It's up there.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This shit still ecit low ruh for me?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Is it still exciting? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I ain't.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I ain't tired yet. I ain't tired. I'm still forgucking
with it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
When you look up and you see artists like Wayne
and Drake and Nicky and they so so far ahead
of us the whole fucking music game, and like that
shit still like it still give you that same excitement.
And we ain't got that first thirty.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It's that thirty was like uh like it was like
we was we was happy, like super super happy, like
we were still youngsters, Like I was twenty one, twenty
years old right now. So for me with that kind
of money, still living in the projects, we had to
figure it out. Like you know, we thought life was
a dream. We thought we were still dreaming, cause we
we know we still was double clip tight year man.
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We still was real thucking and we in the wall
is the murder capital. So your head on the slip
of at all times. So you gotta we ain't know
what we was doing, bruh. We were just we ain't y.
I didn't know, cause you know, man, right, I had
such a hard life, way harder than these niggas I'm
working with rapping. My life was ten times harder than theirs.
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They ain't even know what I been through right in life.
So uming for me, I was just happy to say
that we made it, cause I ain't never thought we would.
I thought I'd be in the penitentia of dead. I
ain't never thought that I could make it.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
What type of advice are you giving the young niggas
who just now getting money? Who wanna who wanna s
Soviet a game for thirty five years?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Man? I tell her the nigga. When you get old, niggas,
you better still have money, right, And then the nigga
have money young. When they get old, they want to
have money and believe in what you believe in. Fuck
who don't.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Believe in you?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I ain ain't nobody believed in me?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Fuck everybody? And who riding riding? Who ain't riding? Fuck 'em.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Damn. This young nigga had a million dollars when they
was fifteen y so it's like happy money wasn't new.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
To you, nah, And I think that play a big
part of niggas. When the niggas just start getting money,
he'll be a different nigga. Right when the nigga been
having money, he had you know, he a made nigga
Like I was getting money as a youngster, right, so.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You learn how to manage that ship.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Man. That was the trick for me, cause I was
blowing it fast. I want all the calls, I'm all
my niggas with the cars, I want all the holes
I'm on, all the jewelry. We popping bottles and we
living a life like it wasn't no tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
We was throwing parties in a super dome Nigga in
New Orleans and the super.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Dog Man.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
A fact like, Nah, it was like for me, right,
like man, I used to watch we used to play
on the dirt. Cause they built a super dome right
by oble hood, right, so we used to play on
the dirt that they built it on. And I was
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a little kid. I said, Man, if I give a chance,
I wanna throw a party in that bitch. And when
I got money, man, I threw about four or five parties.
I was throwing me birthday parties in that been, giving
myself a raw rist, Lamborghinis.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Itself as a prime party.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I was trying parties for myself in the dome and
giving myself Lamborghinis and rose Roses and have 'em all
pulled up in a super dome, man, Like that was
like one of the high lights of my life.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You hinted earlier by putting up, putting the band back together.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, I'm doing that everybody. H I don't know if
it gonna be everybody, but I'm doing that.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Gonna be some other, Yeah, it gonna be some other.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
First of all, right, you know, you know moulah. We
can't do shit with our moulight, right, And Jesus, he
coming home and juvene and we gonna figure it out.
But for a fact, a niggas gonna hustle nothing. We
ain't gonna let no niggas stop the money nothing never.
I don't give a fuck if they I don't give
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a fuck who they are. We don't get I don't
give a fuck about nothing but that money. But I
know certain niggas. We we all about our bag, and
we all getting our bag, and that's what it's gonna be. Yeah,
we been doing it for a minute, and we ain't
about to stop for nobody.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Hell yeah, I mean shit, why wood, it's a lot
of money on.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
The table, big facts, a lot of 'em. Yeah, four
five million dollars a show.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Shit, Yeah, I'm gone. Shit, I they I know most
of the list. I'm gone. I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
We've been off for like four five million dollars per show.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's what out Drake and nikkis.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
So you know what NICKI and Drake, that's about about
fifteen twenty million dollars a show.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Shit, man, just let that just let that simmer for
a minute. That's crazy. That's a whole festival. Nah, that's
one night. Oh that's but it's a festival and one night.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, that's per night, one show.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You can't go to the bank.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Fast and we we we we we did our thug.
We earned it that we deserve it. Yeah, ain't no
nigga aksing for nothing, win, aren't I shit?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I her? I ain't seeing y'all here back in the
day cast money rough Riders Tour.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Ain't y'all shout out to them niggas cause I talked
to Swiss the other day about really trying to put
together that cash money rough Rider tour again.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Ooh, that would be crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I talked to Swiss about seeing if they gonna make
it happen. It was a conversation. You hear me, But
you know everybody I was tryna get their money.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So if we do it, we do it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We don't we don't. We still going out though?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Wow? Now you make a lot of money investing too.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh yeah, definitely. Now I ain't even got to invest.
I make enough money off my music. Well, I ain't
got to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I can sleep.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
What it look like, man? What that feel like? Man?
What kind of sleep that is? Cause I ain't always
I don't never really get all the way sleep, cause
I know it's some more money I need to go
get you. At the end of the money game, when
the mothers say you ain't got to do nothing else,
that's the end of the game, ain't it. I got?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I I got twenty five years of music, thirty four
years of music, Like I did my thank doing it currently,
that's fucking amazing. But then my thing in this game.
But yeah, I did my thing in this game.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Who showed you a lot of game mother about the
music industry while you was coming up?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Ain't nobody showed me nothing. I learned the hard way.
That's why I made a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
That's the hard way.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, I got it out the month. That's the holy way,
really really, I you know, nowadays youngsters don't have to
go through that, yuh. They don't have to make the
mistakes that we made. But hip hop ain't been around
for fifty years and I been in there thirty four years. Mm,
So it was a lot of mistakes being made. And
I ain't want a motherfucking to take from me like
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they took from niggas who did it before me, Cause
a lot of the niggas did it before me. They
had fucked up situations and fucked up deals, and a
lot of people did it before them. They had fucked
up situations and fucked up deals. So I didn't wanna
fall under the bracket of a nigga taking something from me.
I wanted to be respected as I did my thing,
and uh and set the trend for the the next
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nigga that they ain't got to get fucked over like that.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Mm man, you did it, bruh that shit megastars man?
How you how you stay so calm with this shit man?
Cause you don't like you motherfucker says said. You ain't
never responded to shit real talk, like literally, how the
fuck do you do it? Like? And you know you
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in your position, you have every right to if you
ever wanted to, But you never said shit back facts.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It's just for certain niggas. I wouldn't say shit back too,
cause I love 'em and respect 'em, and I ain't
never you know, I ain't. No, I ain't come up
like that. I'm not about to be walk wording with
no nigga. I was brought up different, and we got
a problem. We got a problem, and we gonna entertain it.
We see each other we gonna blow and that's what
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they gonna be. We gonna finish it like that. And
I always wanted to be smarter. I ain't wanna draw
my life away. And I really know this music theyga,
theyga be talking, but really not really really about drawing
it life away. You ain't trying to go to penitentia
unless you really trying to do that. And we all
could hun me. But I wanted to be a smarter man.
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I wanted to be the smartest man. My mission in
this game was to be the smartest, one of the
smartest niggas doing this shit, and that mean duck and bullshit,
sacrificing myself and my family for success.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I always wanted to be the smartest, not the dumbest.
R majority of the time, the loudest niggas, the dumbest nigga,
the smartest niggas, the quietest nigga.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Word. They don't wanna say nothing now, everybody.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Nothing, thanks, cause I could have been dump and doing
goofy shit and could be you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I ra to be small, do small shit and still
be here twenty thirty fourty years. Could talk about my
life and I'm brown helicopters in private jests, nigga helding
on marbles and walking on hyena floors.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, hyaena hyena. Yeah yeah, that shit laughing a little
bit where you walk on it. Giggle the flaws, giggle man,
that shit. That's what we want to hit on. We
like that gasp where you tell us that shit. The
niggas can't get man, you say you change the cock
color every what's the cock color? Man?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I'm on my black shit. I'm on my my moth
for your ship. Like I moved like the President, but
I think like the mob. That's just my whole model
when I jump off of p jail or however I
get around. You know, I'm just straight.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I'm straight.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I'm straight, gangster my minds, and I'm all black, right,
I'm black with black and terror, triple black with the
black tints and the black wheps.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So I know you buy these motherfuckers fift there at
the time. What's in the fleet these days? I'm m
he ain't popped out and it showed us the fleet.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Man, Man, I look, I just got m I just
got the the wagon.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
What's the m okay?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I just got me a who got it which the
four Okay, I said, So I ain't got to do
all that shit like I used to do, cause I'd
take a m and just buy a bunch of whips.
But I just spent five on two whips. So I
was straight with that.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm'a i'm'a die stunt and I ain't gonna never stop.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
No, i'm'a just tryna get it up there.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Man, good tuck, I I I wonta get I'm I
want a helicopter, the new one, the photo.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Who the fucking new they they had a new photo helicopter. No,
they got a hup, they got a sedand helicopter.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
They got the new photo.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I got the cool heler.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Come take me from it's it's it's a like a
two minute flight from.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
The whoop to the whoop.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I'm jumping my whoops and we ride up.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You need to be aspiring to take a helicopter from
the whoop to woop if you ain't never whooped the
whoop in a helicopter.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Two minutes flat, it ain't even two.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Minutes if it's in the photo. I'm finna looking to
get what I ain't. Ain't got no whoop to go
through though. Man, tell me about some ship that I
didn't know existed.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Man, the photo helicopters, old school. I saw you riding
in that red thing. Bro, I'm gonna lean on you
about that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Hey, I saw you planning that old School. You say
you put the motor in.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It, hey, man, put it on. Make him sell it,
Mango sell it. He's about my ship. Oh Man, you
wouldn't even believe it. I really wanted to sell it
to you two stunning for three minute? Nah, I definitely
I got some shit. How you look it? What's up? Right?
What's up? And you good? Yeah? You already? Okay? What's up?
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How you living?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Pop that fish from his seat?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I knew it was official, big officier. I knew it
was official. You know what it'd be the to like
new face.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Come on, sh just get it.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He got to know he got some all the figs
for you. If he bring out the k tho, he
got it real round, if he bring out that case down.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
This need like his stay wait bruh on a on
a on a on a real up and up bruh, Man,
I respect what y'all doing. Bruh.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I know what the fuck I.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Did and I I got thirty four years to speak
about it. But what y'all doing and how y'all did it,
and how y'all doing it? Man, that shit I got
the unmod respect because y'all came up. Y'all niggas then
came up, man wed Man, that mean the world coming
from you.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Real man, y'all, we even got your They might need
to get them something we might need to look. We
might get him some more ship down because I know
you need something in red. Man.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I want y'all niggas to come to Miami and come
indoor life for me for a day. Man.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, y'all gonna sending the helicopter.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm gonna send a p J. I'm come, hey, I
want y'all come to the town jump on the first
of all, I got one hundred and five foot yacht
out there.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Man, y'all we're going. It's gonna be some of the
yacht we don't even see.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Man, Come on, let's set this ship up, man, where
y'all come down with me in the town.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Man, I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Then I'm gonna bring y'all into the jungle to y'all
gotta go to New Orleans right, gladys Ball, we're gonna
go thrug out that too. Now that one weekend.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
We gotta shoot this ship. Y'all want you some not.
This is a documentary. It was just in New Orleans
and New Face gotta go because the New Face wasn't there.
Where were we in New Orleans with your toy? He
was on this nigga, y'all that nigga got see the
come on he hard? Come on man, it's all.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Over you come on man, you know. And I was
at the tour cash money.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Stop it, stop it with the rapping on it. With
the rapping on it, got nip Ball to block now
block botles. I got chewed up. Yeah, the pitt Bull
had that one. But dam that ship hard.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It looked like he got van on ain. Everything got burned.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Man, solo.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Wow, you come on and when you get all this
ship from me?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
He had it since it since he had it. My
nigga had it since he had.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
How many covers you how many colors you been on
my boy?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Ooh?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I made Sulda had that one. These niggas act like
they forgot though. You ever gotta reminder of nigga.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Come on right, come on baby, cause baby anyway, I
remember that one. Then that shit crazy you got. M uh,
how boy, I ain't got no magazine, no more yung
new faces everything. What else you got?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Naha?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I brought something from the town.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Maybe, Man, you could get a bag from all this
about this?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Who is this?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, you'll get a bag for this shit it? And
you know Tennis move New Orleans. Yeah, you got Roofless
Juveniles mobile camp. He had he been the Peaches records.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Huh a cash money to it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And this back in the day when you batt a little,
I bought a picture.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Like that's crazy face got it?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Uh? And you was talking about your influence on the game.
He had the beata You got the influence on the game.
But right here it talks about your family treat in
which you put in and put a game right there,
and you check that out right there you got your
whole history family treat w oh well, how when this
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came out.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
About three years ago?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
DJ symtex nah my tree long bruh tur tree long
non stunning Man, that's mm nah s Where you get
this ship from? Man? I need this right f they
won I think as soon as it came up, Man,
do you get that true story, Library, Barnes and Noble.
I mean it just one of them.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He a hip hop for story, cause we don't get
to shine in the South like we feel like everybody else.
Story kind of get told, you know what I'm saying
through shit, And that's where this show is for eighty
five South is Is Concert. He was actually there. He
got his original seat, original table, buying 'em at the
ticket story.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I want that old school bruh, I got you don't wanna,
I just wanna less.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
That's a whole show. That's a whole show, stunning first
old school.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, I want that man.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And then what then? You gotta figure you know he
he put this shit here, help put this shit together.
You might want the ship with the new interior everything,
how you doing everything? It's already ready. I want the
outside of Chevy, but the inside of Ben's man. Who
got it? This money? Yeah, I'm finna redo this ship.
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Putting on the floor. Hell yeah, can I get one
of them cups? Because I need I need this on
my checklist. I gotta say I said some Christmas got
to I got it. That's hell.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
But I ain't done with you niggas. Nigga We're doing
this ship again.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Hey man, this is part one.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Now I want you all to come to the yam Oh,
I'm gonna send a p J to the.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know what if you send the book, got it? No,
I need you on. No, don't let that. My lady
can arguing and get there quick. Let him get the
red one. You already swing colors. I'm on the p J.
You tell me what. I don't know about y'all who
are watching this, But right now i'm officially as I'm say,
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man that yeah, that one.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Don't worry, I get my own.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I'm glad. The next time I see you, niggas, I'm
gonna have cast money pieces for you.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I'm black time. I see y'all may have big cats,
nothing a little bit, no, no.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
No, man, I just let me wear the old one
then until I get my real I want the one
with the black on the hold on, ye give me
this right black on the back. Yeah that's all. Yeah, Hey,
that's the word. We said. All right, but you couldn't
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buy no fake. Now I knew, I knew I couldn't
have bought no fake when I.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Was Hold me on, let me see your niggas in
a week or two weeks.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Okay, hold me to it. You know I got your
number to hold me to it. I said, with it.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Okay, I'm gonna have big witness for you niggas, Big
boy toys.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Man, hey man, you heard it.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
He hold me to that ship.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Niggas, Jay, you want one? I know you striking itself, y'all.
Don't see me different, y'all, They're gonna see me. So
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what's the future looking like for cash money? Man?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I'm'a just I don't plan it. I just lift through it, right,
So well, just keep doing what we doing and really though,
at this point in life, just being here, bruh, like
you know, staying healthy and you know it's just self
explaining to her. Everybody it shit on cruise control, to
be honest, bruh. You know the new wave we got
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my little nephew, Nino d rop Jack Queeze still you know,
young Thug Future Dawayne Drake, niggas bg juw. That shit
really on cruise control.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Bu it's not.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
It ain't nothing to even worry about.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Brou shit. Everybody named the Mega star man, what you
want your leggas, It'll be even when you say, alright,
I had enough of the music game.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Now I'm just man, I just want a nigga to
just respect me.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, put some respect on my nation, respect on his name. Bruh.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Come on, That's all I want.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
That's what we had on Yeah. Yeah, look uh not
every day we get somebody in your caliber here that
everybody in the room is a fan of. Man, So
we gonna let some of the people in the room,
you know, ask you some of the question. Everybody, you
wanna ask something. I love the number one stuff. Oh
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I I just wanna talk about maybe that I kind
of covered with you and Wayne, if you remember anything.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Gotta know you got some the Hey that w That
was one of my best covers I ever did in
my life. We we shot that in my m in
my neighborhood. I always brought Wayne to the thirteenth Ward
that's where we from, which is all uptown. So we
shot that in my hood and Wayne made me take
my shirt off cause I never was on that type
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of shit, but he always wan't. He like, let's do
this shit with no shirt on and let's just flex
it out. But that's one my favorite cover of all time,
my favorite picture, my favorite everything what with Wayne, Like,
that's when we was in the era of after the
br the break up, so we was getting into the
father like son era, and that was a like the
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stamp of the father like son. It mean the world
of me. It mean everything to me. And I got
that picture in my house on a big plutch. But
that that was the start of after the break up.
So when I see that picture, I knew that was
after the Hot Boys broke up and we started the
like father like son.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Uh. All artists that you and under the your own
brother right that you don't work with or a which
one were you kind of unsure about at arst in?
Like I I see, wow?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
What was I was never really unsure about none of 'em, right,
I always had confidence in all of 'em. And I
always felt like either we gonna win we gonna lose together.
So I never thought about being unsure about it. I
never had a lack of confidence in none of 'em.
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I always had all my confidence in 'em. And I
was a young man with these artists, and I just
felt like we gonna win together, we gonna die together,
we gonna lose together. That was my whole mentality. So
I never thought about no unsecurity. I never thought that
we'll lose. I always went into it with confidence that
we gonna win.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Have you ever had a artist where you was like
where it took you a minute to kids where they
were going?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
With Wane, Wanne, Julie, b Ge, all 'em took a minute.
Wayne was the last to bus But I just believed
in it, and he ended up being the biggest shit
in the world. He end up being the best rapper
alive in life. So but I always I never doubted it.
I just sometime niggas take more time than others. A
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lot of niggas be thinking a nigga gonna prosper fast.
That ain't guaranteed. Sometime it take longer. It took us
eight years independent by the time we got major. The
first year we blew, but they ain't know about the
eight years we was already independent, and with Wayne and
Julie and BG they had been. But once we got
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on that plateau, everybody was getting educated to him. But
that shit been in the brewin and they had started
right then and there.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And got Wayne started doing the mixtape. How did you
feel about that at first? Did you get it or
was you like what you doing.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Hey, I heard about it on the wind right cause
Wayine started a mixtape after these niggas left. Yeah, when
the break up started, yea, so he started doing his
own little thing, right, But we already had met and
said that this is what he gonna do. He like souner,
we gonna do this. It's more money in it out
fuck it. Let them niggas go there about the way,
we gonna make more money now, right right, And we
was like, man, I'm better than all them niggas anyway.
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And I was like, damn you you alright, I you
better than all the niggas anyway. He woke me up, right, Yeah,
I ain't no.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Disrespect as juvet.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
That's my potting up when all this shit happened. So
when he went that route and went to during his mixtapes,
I heard this ship on the winter cause he was
just recording and putting this ship out and nigga was
bringing it to me and I was like, but they
had a short run with the mixtape shit because they
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fell out, right, So him and the squad ain't have
a long run, right, But it wa it w it was.
It was. It was more powerful in the City, but
it had a short run. So right after that, me
and him, right after that, Katrina happened. When Katrina happened,
we all went to Texas. Then me and him went
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to Miami and that's when we started like father like
son ship And it was right after Katrina. Oh, I
know when who's coming up?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Like everybody had to get it with spec.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
For like New York House.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yeah, people wasn't try to get the South. There was space.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
I mean I was in New York soth when when
it came out, they was not really fun you were
at first. I was like, Nah, many y'all get it?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
What was that like for y'all?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Just try to like having kind of the South one lot,
but then trying to go to other places and get
them to kind.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Of understand which I was.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
The East and the West was like the last two plots,
the last two places that would embrace our music if
it was from the South. So it's always been a
competitive thing for us with them, cause they felt like
we was better. They was better than us.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
We felt like we was.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Better than them, especially in our neckative woods, which the South.
Whilst they caught on to us on the coasts cause
you would have a hit in the South, and it
take a long time to hit in the East and
the West. But once they called on to us like
it is now, I don't think they'll ever get it
back like we hit forever like, cause they had it forever,
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like the East and the West. They had it forever,
and it was challenging for us coming up, very very challenging,
cause they wouldn't play all music in no kind of way.
And like I say, Jermaine Dupri really broke that barrier
for us down south cause he went up there and
really made him play all music cause they wouldn't play
all music at all. And I got a lot of
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respect for Jermaine Dupre, but they wouldn't play all music.
And Jermaine Dupre went up there and was fighting for
us and our music goll be hissed down bottom and
it be four five six months before it be hit
on the East and West coast. But now it ain't
like that. Our h music hit more up there than downhill.
But it ain't nothing but love for the East and
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the West. But I don't think we'll ever h Southern niggas.
We ain't never letting that shit. We we love the
way it, Phiel. We love the way where the doe.
We love the way where the where we could buy
hide not Nah, we ain't never letting this shit go.
It's a feeling, it's a vibe. I don't think we'll
ever let it go ever. Yeah, And I say that respectfully.
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I just don't think we'll ever let the vibe and
emotion go. And we with the competitiveness, cause it's it's
all about competing. Yeah, It's about who got the best
town and who can make the best records. That's what
this shit all about. Ain't nobody got to be hating
on nobody to compete with music, right? We just trying
to make the best music and who the people gonna like?
And I think right now we just got it and
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we been having it for a minute, and I just
don't think we gonna let it go.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah cha. And the legacy would be the bounce.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Back and how you were able to transition tell the
people about like once man and everything kind of dismatter
and you bound or your.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Producers by the name of jazz fa facts and and
that whole engage.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
In the how facts street facts. Yeah, yeah, how did
that play the parties? I don't know for some reason,
I just been fortunate enough to.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Be able to.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
If a situation break, I could, you know, break into
something different. I was able to carry a long legacy
and this shit like even before the Hot Boys, I
had a couple of groups before that, and uh, if
you if you know the history of cash money, I
had ortises way before that. Then that dismantled, then you
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would definitely, Yeah, a bunch of 'em pimp Daddy and
and they a lot of 'em died and l some
of 'em left. Then you come with the the Hot
Boys and Magnoia Charty and rest in peace Shorty and
my daughter she passed away.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
And.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
That that kind of crumbled. Then you had the Wayne
who stood alone. Then he moved and did this thing.
Then I came down louting fuck with thugger. But I
had already signed you got it. I had Cali, I
had uh this just in in my tree run long, bruh.
I have a long, real, real long tree. This shit.
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A lot of niggas counted me out, and all I
could tell the niggas I guarantee I wanna lose. I.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
I I built on my s I.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Built myself on that and I stand on that, and
I succeeded in that. Ever, I'm guaranteed I ain't gonna lose.
I think I know what I know, and I think
I'm blessed. And I was fortunate enough to sustain a
lot of weather bruh, A lot of weather and a
lot of ups and downs and a lot of dishcretit
and a lot of doubts. And I want I won
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big Hell.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah you did, Chad what you had? Right? Oh? What
your ass? You need to ask something? What you say? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Now, I was about the same dooreside a man watching
Lebron number that was like a high lot of my life.
Blul He liked to go to the games. He'll sport
at it. So we go to games every night. And
that shit was like, I ain't never went to the games.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
So you're telling me Donald L. Tucky Civil Center September two, Yep,
we gonna beat up. Sounds like we're ready to shoot. Hey,
what's up with September the ten? Come on, man, we'll
be in Tallahassee. I think that what we're doing at
the Donald L. Tucker Civic Center, Well, you know you're important.
When they had to say your whole name and your
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middle initial Donald L.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Tucky, Donald Lewis took Lwanda lu Wamba Hey man, September
the tenth, Make sure you pull up.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
That's Sunday, Tallahassee. Yeah, ain't that yeah Tallahassee pains. September
the tenth. We looking at everywhere. Tell everybody who got
gas in they come. I'm like where you stay at
A sounds about right.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
I was going to games cause he was going to
the games. So we all go to the games and
to watch that shit. That shit was special. To watch
them dudes and how they did it and how they
won them championships. That shit was super super special. Lebron
James is a very cool, cool individual, like he been
a cash Money fan, big cash Money fan. You saw
him do the party. I see him all the time,
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jumping on the jets, off the jets. We always see
each other at clip ports and always been nothing but
respect for him and his family.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Seeing each other at the clipport Hey, man, come on, man, hey,
it just it's just what you do though. But to us,
that shit, he's the other two A that's a that's
a motivation. Bruh A man, yeah, bruh. I ain't never
seen your ass at the clipport. Me and this nigga
be sitting next to each other on the airplane. Do
you understand that I can't even get in the Bends
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without talking shit and burden? Man? Boys, first when I
bought my bends out was like that one with the
frog guy. I got that bitch on dump bro. Y'all know,
y'all got rich fast as fun cause your niggas, Wayne said, boy,
you know how slow the new rose. I'm like, I
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had no fucking idea how slow it was. Man always
always wanted to know this nigga. They were always looking
from the keys. Man, Why you always had the keys?
It makes sense now because let me get the key
to the road truck. You're like, damn bardy Man won't
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come up off them keys.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
So I just give them to my partners or whatever.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
We Hey, man, I don't know what you get rid
of this year, But I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
We had to sit it full of whips because I
always felt like, oh, my niggas wanted a nigga hustling
every day to get a whip, sacrifice in their life
for a whip. So honestly, I swear to guard. Took
like a hundred niggas right to the car lot, right,
and about everybody a call right?
Speaker 2 (56:13):
What call out was that salesman had to be geeked
at a motherfucker man.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
I told everybody, got fifty in the spent, whoever had
a license, and they gonna go get them some insurance.
I bought him a car in Botnament. I bought him
a call and insurance right then and there, like I.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Bought out your hood, blue and white man's mind. I
don't know who the man was, he said. He he's like.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
When I take a life like I couldn't believe.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
We've seen it. We couldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
I actually brought a hundred niggas out of the project
because I traveled with a hundred two hundred niggas everywhere
I went. We had four five buses with two hundred niggas.
I had to get forty fifty runs.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
A bunch of people in that room, man, it's a
bunch of people. Now.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
I was just young, wild, yeah, cause I really thought
we was dreaming. I ain't think that ship was a
real nigga to be just living like that. And I
just wanted to show niggas. So if I was dreaming,
y'all gonna dream with me, Nigga, y'all about to see
this ship. But when I woke up, when I woke
up and realized it wasn't a dream, then I took
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this shit serious. Right Then I said, alright, we about
to be We gonna get real money and this ship.
It took me about two three years, right. The breakup
woke me up. Yeah, when niggas was talking about all
that goof of shit, I said, alright, that one made
me buckle down and say, alright, that woke me up.
That shit woke me up and be like, alright, I'm sure, nigga,
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I ready to do this shit. I'm the reason why
we all where we at. And that ship made me
buckle down and take it while we took it right.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Shit, Okay, I remember, uh, I think the first one
that hit had was uh June out hot. How how
it changed the game before you once that made you
you got moe.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
All of it was like for us, like we were
still young. So for us, it was like it was
like a party, nigga.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
We partied hard.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
It was a party. M the Washington atmosphere, it was different,
but we still we ain't had realize what was really
going on. We were still young, so it ain't came
to a point to where, like I said later on,
I took this shit serious. At that point, we were
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just fucking.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
We thug it.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
We got everyw on the bus with two hundred niggas
with two hundred guns, and we thug it like that.
It wasn't It wasn't serious for us.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
We were just rapping.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
But later on in life, I want to taking it
like all right, I took this ship serious.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Oh g man, we damn sure appreciate fucking with us.
Man this ship re man. We're gonna We're gonna see
if we can get you to sign a few pieces.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
I'm gonna do that. But with more than anything, I
need y'all niggas to fly to Yamy. I want you
niggas to fly to the jungle. I'm gonna put them
pieces on y'all. I'm talking big boys. Ship.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
Hold on, man, I gotta do this. Man the South shown.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
At whit.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
This ain't a ghetto legend. I don't know what the
fu is man.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Ghetto man, Young Doug Man, that's my little nigga man. Yes,
we start nigga, man, what.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
We'll taking pictures of? Almost get one? Hey, bro, we
gotta get on some ya.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Tell your nigga I want you to come to the
game one in the jungle. I just need a dayn
too with you coming, and I'm gonna put that woop
on your woop.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Come on, come on, we already were with it. Help ready, bro,
Let's get the provice, let's do it well. Step ahead,
To see how y'all come up, bro, Like I respect it, Bro.
I respect it as just being a man, a black man.
This shit hard for us watching niggas come up and
then they respect its gratitude and respect.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
And I saw y'all come up, specially this DC. The
DC nigga watched him and just watch what y'all doing. Man,
That ship respectful, bro, very very respectful.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That ship means so much coming from you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm a student of the game, blood, so I watch
it all Bro.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Really from the South, so it's like you're responsible for
that soundtrack, real you get it and really like you,
like you and Peter only like icons that we had
that to really seen they can come up after money
and get that ship and really have that ship, and
y'all really changed the game. It's like all the over
interviews coming out, like y'all was the ones who really had.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Someone with the first name to get money. I was
watching what that nigga was doing, like you're heard me,
but I was already doing it before he was doing it.
But when I saw him take it to another level
like he did, and that ship just made me, you know,
he was like for me, he was like it was
like a petitive for me, like I wanted to be
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better than them niggas. I ain't really never had no
problem with them niggas. I just felt like we was
better than them niggas and not no shade weight, just
to say that if I could do it, another nigga
could do it behind me.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Everybody know I'm the biggest bird Man fan. So before
we even get into any of this ship, it's some
ship I just got to play. You know, we got there.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I flew out here. I'm want my brother told my
nephew Nino, and I'm like, man, I'm on your time. Man,
can I get a.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Light look the first ship I want to hear it's
Big Times. Yeah, the song called Big Times because that's
out of all the ship Now, that's what I created,
Big Time. I already know. Hold up, don't give me
I'm out first, and don't give me ship yet because
this like I've been knowing you all my life in
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my mind, Big Facts. Because I'm gonna tell you what
made me a fan of me was when I first
got the first Big Time of city. As soon as
I put that bitch and you, I ain't no wrap.
I'm a game spill. That told me everything I needed
to hear. Right, you got that ship he always got.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Cue up y'all, y'all talking.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm we're not bullshit. Man. You know your time is
very valuable.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You gotta just like I was. I wanted to do this,
that's my choice. I called you.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Because I thought whoever it was, I thought they were
bullship trying to get into hot Visa.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
This is my best friend, my right hand. And if
Visa call it this ain't no.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I ain't no shit. Naw.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I called you. I said, a nigga, I wanna come
do your show. Nigga fuck with y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That was it. Play this ship right here.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's be just on the hook, il.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I already know my little b GZ on the bus.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
For the record, I just want niggas to know that
my that nigga official cash money ain't no capt in
that year of me. So ain't nobody else he gonna
ever sign with besides this shit. So I'm bringing all
this shit back together. So b G signing the cash money.
So y'all ain't got to hear coming back to ay
it's a fact.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Give me one more. DM Jay Wain, Come on, man,
I need to hear this hypnotizing cash money. Like if
me and Barry Man was ever riding in the drop
head feedom this the ship will be playing. Cause I
like how much shit you talked on this one too. Man,
you were crazy this one of them.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Once and I been doing it was about thirty four,
thirty five years damn?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What was what happened? Again? Hold on? I know, I know,
you know I I don't you know it? Go ahead,
what is it? Thirty two? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I started that street to right cause I had I
had a mouthful of goals at fourteen years old, thirteen
turning fourteen, and I went to Beach. I was always baby.
Baby was first, that's my original name. And I went
from B three two to Bubba Beatre ye very man Stunnach.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Hey, man, you can call me what you feel.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Pick in one of 'em, man, one of them.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Man, happen at the Platinum Homer with the platinum girl.
You know what happened Jay over with the platinum be
Plat and chain. Oh sure you love to Oh now,
I always wanted to ask you about this. Now you
ain't talking about back in the day though, off the ramp. Yeah, yeah,
give me one of your favorite off the ram stories
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cause I heard back then off.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The ramp, it's Melfami project. I I grew up on
Sarah Torg and the Routland the f which is across
the street from the Meltha Meinie Project where I grew
up at was a a hair wrong, what tricks posto?
All that went on my block. So it was kids.
So my pops used to make us get off the
block cause it was a lot of everything going on, shooting, killings,
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So we had to go in the project, but my sister,
so my sister stayed in the next quote, off the ramp.
So a ramp was where you get from one side
of the project to the other side of the project.
So we used to just play on the ramp. But
a lot of shit went down on that ramp. You'll
get your head. You on that ramp at the wrong
time or night, you'll get killed, uh like. And if
you ain't on your shit, if you hustling, a lot
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of shit gone. But the Melthaminie Project was the first
project that I that I was exposed to as a kid.
Then I went to the Magnolia Project. Then I went
to Valon Street and I learned my hustle in the
Magnoia and Magnolia told me everything.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Now it's a legit. I ain't never heard you denial,
no confirmedies. M that you been rich since you was
about fourteen yea.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I had a million dollars at fifteen years old. I
had ten cars at fourteen years old. I was already
stunting with cars as a youngster. I had fourteen cars
the whole project. We all booming, we all popping motor bikes, cars,
jerry fucking holes. By the time I was fifteen, I
had w you know, ten fifteen cars and we were
just balling. We were just doing our you know.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I I got it. I love some fucking cars. I
wanted to ask you, I see you, what all you going?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I had as for this as a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, what's your what's your favorite old schools?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I never had a old school in my life. Word,
I never had old school, and I always wanted I
saw you in the red thing, and I was like, man,
I'm gonna tell a nigga, want buy that car. Just
saw you in a red car. I said, I wanted
to tell a nigga, I want buy that car. I
ain't never had a old school in my life, ever
I wanted to. I always was modern.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
If it was you was getting it, you was getting
as soon as it came out.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I wanted that. I never had a old school in
my life.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I bought a old school from fresh That's what fresh.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Into Fresh w he had a right, nonah, he had 'em.
But he from downtown. They not like uptown, so downtown.
I ain't gonna say all new us niggas ain't never
had old schools. Yeah, well we come from uptown. We
ain't never had old schools now w nah Right, but
Fresh he old school like a motherfucker. Everything he ever
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ride n ue to be like, man, you tripping with
that old school shit. But that shit used to be shy,
and he spend a nice penny fucking with that shit.
But I ain't never had old school. Shut out to
fresh Man.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You want of the pustles that would getting car like
two years before it come out.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, I wanted that new shit. Yeah, Uptown we just
want that new fly shit, you know, cause we ain't
really had shit. So once we went to getting calls,
we wanted everything. So we went crazy like nigga. When
I was able to get some money about cars, I
went crazy. I ain't caret hiding into that. Yah, I
ain't care if I ain't had no more money, it
never mattered to me. I want all the cars, we had,
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motor bikes. We was just like the popping Project. We
had everything caused the brawls and we was a bunch
of young niggas, young niggas fifteen sixty years old.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Just fly. Yeah, that's fucking wow. I think about the
big ball and shit when you say that, shit like
so that w that aind been going on for you.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Nah, we were really living like that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's what I'm saying that they like It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Cause we saw older niggas who did it before us.
They was living like that then the Cadillacs, the fly whips,
you know what I mean. So we wanted to be
like the older nigga. All I ever wanted to be
was a dope boy. I ain't care about no nothing
but the dope boy. I wanted to be the like
the most popular dope boy, but all the goals in
his mouth, with all the cars, the jury. I was
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already prepared to die out go to the penitentiary. I
was mentally ready for that as a kid, cause They
always always told us we were gonna die young, so
we was ready for that. That's all I ever wanted
to be was a dope boy. Cause my posts one.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yuh see, I been. I've been following the story till close.
I feel like I know you pop, Mr Johnny.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was my everything. When I lost him,
I just I just turned to be without. I ain't
know what I was gonna be. And uh, you know
in life, like you gotta make the right chances. If
you make the wrong one, you gona end up in
the wrong places. Yeah, and I I I made the
right choices in my life, buh cause you d my
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mindset as a youngster, I wanted to be where they
was at. I really was prepared to die. I was
ready to go to jail and die mentally. But you know,
being incarcerated that shit woke me up and made me
wanna do something different. And then I was watching Wayne them.
There was young niggas who was following my path, and
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I changed them niggas lives, and then I felt like
we could be something.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I remember in a lot of the uh, like a
lot of the song you used to say. I feel
when two thousand come, it's gonna be all by Wayne facts.
So you saw this shit coming like the monster being created.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Man n The little nigga just had that ambition. He
wanted to be a superstuff s and he had the
he had the actors to be a super stuff. Juvie
very successful was a rapper. Wayne is very successful as
a rapper. And when DG come home, he gonna be
very successful as rappers, right Manny Fresh, He's very successful
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at what he do, right, Drake very successful at what
he do. Nikki very successful what she do.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Drake and a whole nother fucking sex very successful way
he do.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, Future very for successful what he do. Nigga's up.
Nigga's very up, bro Man, How.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh Wayne, how did you how when did you notice
like hold on, Like, how how long before you notice, like, uh,
just seeing him around? Or was it this motherfucker got something.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And we knew that, we been knew it. We probably
about right when we formed the Hot Boys. Shit Like
he was like the first nigga, the elver, the last
nigga leave. All of 'em was living with me since
they was like twelve years old. I was like a
baby raising baby. So all of 'em was with me
and all I used to do it was just mak
ingem rap all day and right raps all day. But
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we just saw something different than Wayne. And he was
the youngest. Right, we knew Juvie was a stark, and
we knew BG was a star. BG was a star
for there was a stock right right then Juvie came,
then Wayne came. But we knew, we knew we had
something with 'em. But you know, we was young. I
was young myself. Shit, I signed my deal. I was
twenty years old when I got thirty million dollars. When
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I got that, you know, we still was We felt
like we were still dreaming, just young niggas out there.
We still was still in the project.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So shit, thirty million up, still in the projects, still.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
In the projects. Five business, I went about six business
and we still was in the projects.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Man, this the shit you don't get to hear. Man,
that's wild.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's a fact, man, No, Captain.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Didn't know they BITI was laid out probably too. Man.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I was city love us. Man, he was gonna play
with us. They don't nigg gonna disrespect us. Ain't no
niggas gonna na man. So it was like it was
like the home. It is home, like where we come from.
Is I feel more comfortablehere I come from anywhere in
the world.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
For a fact, I feel like that j that Soldier
Rag album was slept on, but that was the come up. Yeah,
that that got the That that got the hola fuds
on the South. That shit caught fire.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Na yea, and yeah it did it called f jew nigga,
that be a that nigga Juli a bad man.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Bruh, cause that she's still a bad.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Motherfucker early Fire. I watch him every day. I watch
him cause you know, that's like one of my best friends, Jewlry,
like one of my closest partners. Every Yeah, you know
Wayne Forever my son. We super tight And I talked
to BG like every day. I'm super tight with Future,
I'm super tight with Drake, super tight with Nick, A
lot of 'em. I'm still super close with. But that
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nigga juven that nigga bad man. He's still a bad
mother fu But I watch all of them still be
super super successful. They very prosper still today, Like they
make a lot of money. Bro, That's what we did
this shit for to be who we be. And who
we are. That's what this ship built on.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Bro the roster, crazy man. How you put that all
the blocking movie together? Hey man, all the block of
two right now, right what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm really super super excited about the movie, man, And
like we put a lot into it. Bro n being
young Boy is one of the stars, main stars films.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Bring that shit back, Man Block and it's a classic.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Big class and I know it's a classic, and I
wanted to make sure that we make it traditional. And
I ain't wanna really start shooting till BG come home.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Hell yeah. And he is a street legend in his
own right. Like you said, he was the star first,
Like when you first signed him, did he just immediately
take off for it?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Just thirteen?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
He was thirteen?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Right? Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Jesus was like he was around for like a year.
And then that little nigga just got on the mic.
One day we was at fresh House and I went
to the store. When I came back, Jesus had to
make about six seven songs to chop a city. I'm like, man,
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that little nigga cold and he was so young and
so advanced, and right after that we just cut him loose.
He was like fourteen years old, and he just he
was advanced like a motherfucker with the street life, and
he always been older than his age. So after that,
the next day we did we did the whole album
like two Street as Chopper City, and shit, it was
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history after that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Man, that shit amazing. How Fresh made all them fucking
ass si huh.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
In his house. We ain't even had a studio. We
was called in fresh kitchen.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Man. I heard some shit. Man. They said he made
the all y'all hits with only about eight sounds.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
For the fact he kept it real simple, but that
was his choice. See me, I'm I'm like, I'm I'm
one foot than one foot out. So I'm like, Nigga,
whatever you.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Do with that shit.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm I'm banking on the nigga cause a nigga turned
me on term. So I'm like, shit, I know Jesus
don't want rap. These little young niggas won't rap. And
Jesus just took off. When I come back, I won't
gone but an hour or two. Man Nigga had knocked
out six songs. Man Nigga did the chop of City.
I'm the one named the Chopper City. I named it bg,
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I did all that shit. I was just naming baby gangster.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
This is what we was riding to, man, on that
comedy shit, going to shows. We listening the cash money.
That's our soundtrack, that's our mindset. That's where we trying.
You know what I'm saying. We hear you say the
You know what I'm saying, I'm finna buy a platinum
football fit. You know what I'm saying, trying to put
platinum eyebrows on the bit.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It was like, you know, seeing y'all come up like
that and always been my second home.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I stayed out here five years with young thug man.
It's my pottinger man, nothing but love and respectful thugger.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's a real nigga. Give came out here and did
that Rich Gangs ship man, and we flipped the whole
game when we came with that Rich Gangs ship man.
That ship was you know, Man, that nigga showed me
Atlanta in a whole nother way. Man, Atlanta always been
the second home to me. But when I can't fuck
with your thug, he showed me the real side of
the day. Man.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Man, how did the young rappers find their way to
burn man, cause I see you pop out of you
throw a verse out for a few motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But like I'll be finding my way to these niggas.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm really not hard to find this. A few niggas
beas and see told you me, like I understand, I
found my way to you to find you with them.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm gonna send you all the times out of like man,
birdman coming on this motherfucker. I ain't know how it
was gonna happen, but I said it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It'll talk yess what what I really threw? And then like, man,
I won't I wanted to come. Man, I like to
see niggas coming up. Man, that's what this shit built on.
Word empowering, That's what we built on. But this shit
ain't never been easy for us. Oh our people, Man,
shit been ah, niggas get a ride, we gonna ride it.
That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So I gotta ask you this, man, you had one
of the your your your deal, you going down to history. Yeah,
fucked up the deal for anybody after you, cause you
chose the option that not a lot of people would
have chose to stay independent. In facts, A and worked
the major how you did it? Like for the people
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who don't know, just speak on how you how you
did that, and and bet on yourself and you won
on this shit, man, turn it down. Jail in this
shit right here.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
But I just felt like I lost everything already, So
how can I give you anything when you ain't work
hard to get it. I lost my mama, my daddy,
my brothers, my sisters. I lived in boys' home, I
lived in Canada, I lived in I was adopted by
white folks. I just was I had a hard life
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coming up, bruh. So I felt like I lost two
much to gain 'em little. So I wanted to keep
all my shit. When I went up there that was
offering me fifty fifty deals, I wanted to accept it.
So I wanted to eighty ten or ninety ten split,
and you know, other niggas paid the way. I got
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to show respect to them, dudes. They did this shit
before I did it, So I just felt like I
could have a longer run than them, cause we was younger,
and I felt like I could last longer than all
of 'em. I personally felt this way as a man,
as a youngster that I'd be the new the new
wave of the game. And honestly, we held hip hop down.
When Niggas was saying hip hop was dead, when Niggas
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wasn't fucking with hip Pops, Nigga was saying they retired
and left the game alone. We we held hip hop down,
and I just felt like I just couldn't give up
what I believe we lost the lot.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
These are the movies that you studied, though, it's like
taking that chance.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
A lot of people would have took a gambled it right,
and I had to lick.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Was said ninety ten right now.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
But it was like eighty five fIF hold up, man,
hold up, no, man, come on, man, I I've been
in the game thirty plus.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm ninety ten right first, eighty five fifteen when I
first started. That's sh cause I had a P and
D deal which caused a pressing distributor, and I paid
for all my marketing right, so I owned all my masters,
and I still own my masters and own all my shit.
So I had a which is called a P and
D deal, so it's called a pressing distribute, which was
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eighty five fifteen.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
So that's all you needed them for was just stress
this ship and get this shit out.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
But the ship took off so fast.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So my first album I put out was four hundred
Degrees and it sold ten million copies, which was Juvenile
and it had it had a light. That song was what.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
You gotta understand. The time four hundred went down the
road singles for the next two years. Yeah right, the
greens was still dropping like albums don't have that kind
of light.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's sold fifteen thousand in the first week and ended
up selling ten million coppies.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You know outcasts, all them boys did them type of
numbers and jewelry up there with them niggas with them
type of numbers. Juvenile was one of our biggest selling
artists still to the day. It was knocking off ten
seven five. Yeah, he ain't never sold under five.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Dam huh. Hey man, man, I bought it the records
j'all and never got through respected. You know what. Another
favorite part of cash Money records for me, Ziggly Wiggly.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
He retaing it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They always talk good ship though, man. I'll always had
some good skits though.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Now it was I I get a skips, got to
get a skits too, many Fresh, but Ziggily was from
my hood, right, so they knew him from my hood.
But Fresh had the idea though, of the skits that
was all Fresh.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We we was like man Fresh tripping with that boys.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Shit.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
We didn't really care about that shite the fire, but
Fresh knew what he was doing and we had to
stand down and let him do what he and he
knew what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Hey, you had the way he said, Man, he'll come man,
fuck you you said what I said? My sister tell
me love you? Shit you up? What now? Billion? You
and the sold a billion.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Records, alsold over a billion records. I sold over five
hundred streams. It's up there.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This shit still ecit low ruh for me?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Is it still exciting? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I ain't.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I ain't tired yet. I ain't tired. I'm still forgucking
with it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
When you look up and you see artists like Wayne
and Drake and Nicky and they so so far ahead
of us the whole fucking music game, and like that
shit still like it still give you that same excitement.
And we ain't got that first thirty.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It's that thirty was like uh like it was like
we was we was happy, like super super happy, like
we were still youngsters, Like I was twenty one, twenty
years old right now. So for me with that kind
of money, still living in the projects, we had to
figure it out. Like you know, we thought life was
a dream. We thought we were still dreaming, cause we
we know we still was double clip tight year man.
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We still was real thucking and we in the wall
is the murder capital. So your head on the slip
of at all times. So you gotta we ain't know
what we was doing, bruh. We were just we ain't y.
I didn't know, cause you know, man, right, I had
such a hard life, way harder than these niggas I'm
working with rapping. My life was ten times harder than theirs.
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They ain't even know what I been through right in life.
So uming for me, I was just happy to say
that we made it, cause I ain't never thought we would.
I thought I'd be in the penitentia of dead. I
ain't never thought that I could make it.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
What type of advice are you giving the young niggas
who just now getting money? Who wanna who wanna s
Soviet a game for thirty five years?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Man? I tell her the nigga. When you get old, niggas,
you better still have money, right, And then the nigga
have money young. When they get old, they want to
have money and believe in what you believe in. Fuck
who don't.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Believe in you?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I ain ain't nobody believed in me?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Fuck everybody? And who riding riding? Who ain't riding? Fuck 'em.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Damn. This young nigga had a million dollars when they
was fifteen y so it's like happy money wasn't new.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
To you, nah, And I think that play a big
part of niggas. When the niggas just start getting money,
he'll be a different nigga. Right when the nigga been
having money, he had you know, he a made nigga
Like I was getting money as a youngster, right, so.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You learn how to manage that ship.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Man. That was the trick for me, cause I was
blowing it fast. I want all the calls, I'm all
my niggas with the cars, I want all the holes
I'm on, all the jewelry. We popping bottles and we
living a life like it wasn't no tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
We was throwing parties in a super dome Nigga in
New Orleans and the super.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Dog Man.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
A fact like, Nah, it was like for me, right,
like man, I used to watch we used to play
on the dirt. Cause they built a super dome right
by oble hood, right, so we used to play on
the dirt that they built it on. And I was
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a little kid. I said, Man, if I give a chance,
I wanna throw a party in that bitch. And when
I got money, man, I threw about four or five parties.
I was throwing me birthday parties in that been, giving
myself a raw rist, Lamborghinis.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Itself as a prime party.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I was trying parties for myself in the dome and
giving myself Lamborghinis and rose Roses and have 'em all
pulled up in a super dome, man, Like that was
like one of the high lights of my life.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You hinted earlier by putting up, putting the band back together.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, I'm doing that everybody. H I don't know if
it gonna be everybody, but I'm doing that.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Gonna be some other, Yeah, it gonna be some other.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
First of all, right, you know, you know moulah. We
can't do shit with our moulight, right, And Jesus, he
coming home and juvene and we gonna figure it out.
But for a fact, a niggas gonna hustle nothing. We
ain't gonna let no niggas stop the money nothing never.
I don't give a fuck if they I don't give
(25:56):
a fuck who they are. We don't get I don't
give a fuck about nothing but that money. But I
know certain niggas. We we all about our bag, and
we all getting our bag, and that's what it's gonna be. Yeah,
we been doing it for a minute, and we ain't
about to stop for nobody.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Hell yeah, I mean shit, why wood, it's a lot
of money on.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
The table, big facts, a lot of 'em. Yeah, four
five million dollars a show.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Shit, Yeah, I'm gone. Shit, I they I know most
of the list. I'm gone. I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
We've been off for like four five million dollars per show.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's what out Drake and nikkis.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
So you know what NICKI and Drake, that's about about
fifteen twenty million dollars a show.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Shit, man, just let that just let that simmer for
a minute. That's crazy. That's a whole festival. Nah, that's
one night. Oh that's but it's a festival and one night.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, that's per night, one show.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You can't go to the bank.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Fast and we we we we we did our thug.
We earned it that we deserve it. Yeah, ain't no
nigga aksing for nothing, win, aren't I shit?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I her? I ain't seeing y'all here back in the
day cast money rough Riders Tour.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Ain't y'all shout out to them niggas cause I talked
to Swiss the other day about really trying to put
together that cash money rough Rider tour again.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Ooh, that would be crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I talked to Swiss about seeing if they gonna make
it happen. It was a conversation. You hear me, But
you know everybody I was tryna get their money.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So if we do it, we do it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We don't we don't. We still going out though?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Wow? Now you make a lot of money investing too.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh yeah, definitely. Now I ain't even got to invest.
I make enough money off my music. Well, I ain't
got to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I can sleep.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
What it look like, man? What that feel like? Man?
What kind of sleep that is? Cause I ain't always
I don't never really get all the way sleep, cause
I know it's some more money I need to go
get you. At the end of the money game, when
the mothers say you ain't got to do nothing else,
that's the end of the game, ain't it. I got?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I I got twenty five years of music, thirty four
years of music, Like I did my thank doing it currently,
that's fucking amazing. But then my thing in this game.
But yeah, I did my thing in this game.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Who showed you a lot of game mother about the
music industry while you was coming up?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Ain't nobody showed me nothing. I learned the hard way.
That's why I made a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
That's the hard way.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, I got it out the month. That's the holy way,
really really, I you know, nowadays youngsters don't have to
go through that, yuh. They don't have to make the
mistakes that we made. But hip hop ain't been around
for fifty years and I been in there thirty four years. Mm,
So it was a lot of mistakes being made. And
I ain't want a motherfucking to take from me like
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they took from niggas who did it before me, Cause
a lot of the niggas did it before me. They
had fucked up situations and fucked up deals, and a
lot of people did it before them. They had fucked
up situations and fucked up deals. So I didn't wanna
fall under the bracket of a nigga taking something from me.
I wanted to be respected as I did my thing,
and uh and set the trend for the the next
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nigga that they ain't got to get fucked over like that.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Mm man, you did it, bruh that shit megastars man?
How you how you stay so calm with this shit man?
Cause you don't like you motherfucker says said. You ain't
never responded to shit real talk, like literally, how the
fuck do you do it? Like? And you know you
(29:33):
in your position, you have every right to if you
ever wanted to, But you never said shit back facts.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It's just for certain niggas. I wouldn't say shit back too,
cause I love 'em and respect 'em, and I ain't
never you know, I ain't. No, I ain't come up
like that. I'm not about to be walk wording with
no nigga. I was brought up different, and we got
a problem. We got a problem, and we gonna entertain it.
We see each other we gonna blow and that's what
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they gonna be. We gonna finish it like that. And
I always wanted to be smarter. I ain't wanna draw
my life away. And I really know this music theyga,
theyga be talking, but really not really really about drawing
it life away. You ain't trying to go to penitentia
unless you really trying to do that. And we all
could hun me. But I wanted to be a smarter man.
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I wanted to be the smartest man. My mission in
this game was to be the smartest, one of the
smartest niggas doing this shit, and that mean duck and bullshit,
sacrificing myself and my family for success.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I always wanted to be the smartest, not the dumbest.
R majority of the time, the loudest niggas, the dumbest nigga,
the smartest niggas, the quietest nigga.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Word. They don't wanna say nothing now, everybody.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Nothing, thanks, cause I could have been dump and doing
goofy shit and could be you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I ra to be small, do small shit and still
be here twenty thirty fourty years. Could talk about my
life and I'm brown helicopters in private jests, nigga helding
on marbles and walking on hyena floors.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, hyaena hyena. Yeah yeah, that shit laughing a little
bit where you walk on it. Giggle the flaws, giggle man,
that shit. That's what we want to hit on. We
like that gasp where you tell us that shit. The
niggas can't get man, you say you change the cock
color every what's the cock color? Man?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I'm on my black shit. I'm on my my moth
for your ship. Like I moved like the President, but
I think like the mob. That's just my whole model
when I jump off of p jail or however I
get around. You know, I'm just straight.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I'm straight.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I'm straight, gangster my minds, and I'm all black, right,
I'm black with black and terror, triple black with the
black tints and the black wheps.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So I know you buy these motherfuckers fift there at
the time. What's in the fleet these days? I'm m
he ain't popped out and it showed us the fleet.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Man, Man, I look, I just got m I just
got the the wagon.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
What's the m okay?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I just got me a who got it which the
four Okay, I said, So I ain't got to do
all that shit like I used to do, cause I'd
take a m and just buy a bunch of whips.
But I just spent five on two whips. So I
was straight with that.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm'a i'm'a die stunt and I ain't gonna never stop.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
No, i'm'a just tryna get it up there.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Man, good tuck, I I I wonta get I'm I
want a helicopter, the new one, the photo.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Who the fucking new they they had a new photo helicopter. No,
they got a hup, they got a sedand helicopter.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
They got the new photo.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I got the cool heler.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Come take me from it's it's it's a like a
two minute flight from.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
The whoop to the whoop.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I'm jumping my whoops and we ride up.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You need to be aspiring to take a helicopter from
the whoop to woop if you ain't never whooped the
whoop in a helicopter.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Two minutes flat, it ain't even two.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Minutes if it's in the photo. I'm finna looking to
get what I ain't. Ain't got no whoop to go
through though. Man, tell me about some ship that I
didn't know existed.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Man, the photo helicopters, old school. I saw you riding
in that red thing. Bro, I'm gonna lean on you
about that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Hey, I saw you planning that old School. You say
you put the motor in.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It, hey, man, put it on. Make him sell it,
Mango sell it. He's about my ship. Oh Man, you
wouldn't even believe it. I really wanted to sell it
to you two stunning for three minute? Nah, I definitely
I got some shit. How you look it? What's up? Right?
What's up? And you good? Yeah? You already? Okay? What's up?
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How you living?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Pop that fish from his seat?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I knew it was official, big officier. I knew it
was official. You know what it'd be the to like
new face.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Come on, sh just get it.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He got to know he got some all the figs
for you. If he bring out the k tho, he
got it real round, if he bring out that case down.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
This need like his stay wait bruh on a on
a on a on a real up and up bruh, Man,
I respect what y'all doing. Bruh.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I know what the fuck I.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Did and I I got thirty four years to speak
about it. But what y'all doing and how y'all did it,
and how y'all doing it? Man, that shit I got
the unmod respect because y'all came up. Y'all niggas then
came up, man wed Man, that mean the world coming
from you.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Real man, y'all, we even got your They might need
to get them something we might need to look. We
might get him some more ship down because I know
you need something in red. Man.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I want y'all niggas to come to Miami and come
indoor life for me for a day. Man.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, y'all gonna sending the helicopter.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm gonna send a p J. I'm come, hey, I
want y'all come to the town jump on the first
of all, I got one hundred and five foot yacht
out there.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Man, y'all we're going. It's gonna be some of the
yacht we don't even see.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Man, Come on, let's set this ship up, man, where
y'all come down with me in the town.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Man, I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Then I'm gonna bring y'all into the jungle to y'all
gotta go to New Orleans right, gladys Ball, we're gonna
go thrug out that too. Now that one weekend.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
We gotta shoot this ship. Y'all want you some not.
This is a documentary. It was just in New Orleans
and New Face gotta go because the New Face wasn't there.
Where were we in New Orleans with your toy? He
was on this nigga, y'all that nigga got see the
come on he hard? Come on man, it's all.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Over you come on man, you know. And I was
at the tour cash money.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Stop it, stop it with the rapping on it. With
the rapping on it, got nip Ball to block now
block botles. I got chewed up. Yeah, the pitt Bull
had that one. But dam that ship hard.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It looked like he got van on ain. Everything got burned.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Man, solo.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Wow, you come on and when you get all this
ship from me?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
He had it since it since he had it. My
nigga had it since he had.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
How many covers you how many colors you been on
my boy?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Ooh?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I made Sulda had that one. These niggas act like
they forgot though. You ever gotta reminder of nigga.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Come on right, come on baby, cause baby anyway, I
remember that one. Then that shit crazy you got. M uh,
how boy, I ain't got no magazine, no more yung
new faces everything. What else you got?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Naha?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I brought something from the town.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Maybe, Man, you could get a bag from all this
about this?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Who is this?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, you'll get a bag for this shit it? And
you know Tennis move New Orleans. Yeah, you got Roofless
Juveniles mobile camp. He had he been the Peaches records.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Huh a cash money to it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And this back in the day when you batt a little,
I bought a picture.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Like that's crazy face got it?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Uh? And you was talking about your influence on the game.
He had the beata You got the influence on the game.
But right here it talks about your family treat in
which you put in and put a game right there,
and you check that out right there you got your
whole history family treat w oh well, how when this
(38:01):
came out.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
About three years ago?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
DJ symtex nah my tree long bruh tur tree long
non stunning Man, that's mm nah s Where you get
this ship from? Man? I need this right f they
won I think as soon as it came up, Man,
do you get that true story, Library, Barnes and Noble.
I mean it just one of them.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He a hip hop for story, cause we don't get
to shine in the South like we feel like everybody else.
Story kind of get told, you know what I'm saying
through shit, And that's where this show is for eighty
five South is Is Concert. He was actually there. He
got his original seat, original table, buying 'em at the
ticket story.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I want that old school bruh, I got you don't wanna,
I just wanna less.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
That's a whole show. That's a whole show, stunning first
old school.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, I want that man.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And then what then? You gotta figure you know he
he put this shit here, help put this shit together.
You might want the ship with the new interior everything,
how you doing everything? It's already ready. I want the
outside of Chevy, but the inside of Ben's man. Who
got it? This money? Yeah, I'm finna redo this ship.
(39:19):
Putting on the floor. Hell yeah, can I get one
of them cups? Because I need I need this on
my checklist. I gotta say I said some Christmas got
to I got it. That's hell.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
But I ain't done with you niggas. Nigga We're doing
this ship again.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Hey man, this is part one.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Now I want you all to come to the yam Oh,
I'm gonna send a p J to the.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know what if you send the book, got it? No,
I need you on. No, don't let that. My lady
can arguing and get there quick. Let him get the
red one. You already swing colors. I'm on the p J.
You tell me what. I don't know about y'all who
are watching this, But right now i'm officially as I'm say,
(40:11):
man that yeah, that one.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Don't worry, I get my own.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I'm glad. The next time I see you, niggas, I'm
gonna have cast money pieces for you.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I'm black time. I see y'all may have big cats,
nothing a little bit, no, no.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
No, man, I just let me wear the old one
then until I get my real I want the one
with the black on the hold on, ye give me
this right black on the back. Yeah that's all. Yeah, Hey,
that's the word. We said. All right, but you couldn't
(41:01):
buy no fake. Now I knew, I knew I couldn't
have bought no fake when I.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Was Hold me on, let me see your niggas in
a week or two weeks.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Okay, hold me to it. You know I got your
number to hold me to it. I said, with it.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Okay, I'm gonna have big witness for you niggas, Big
boy toys.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Man, hey man, you heard it.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
He hold me to that ship.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Niggas, Jay, you want one? I know you striking itself, y'all.
Don't see me different, y'all, They're gonna see me. So
(41:56):
what's the future looking like for cash money? Man?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I'm'a just I don't plan it. I just lift through it, right,
So well, just keep doing what we doing and really though,
at this point in life, just being here, bruh, like
you know, staying healthy and you know it's just self
explaining to her. Everybody it shit on cruise control, to
be honest, bruh. You know the new wave we got
(42:20):
my little nephew, Nino d rop Jack Queeze still you know,
young Thug Future Dawayne Drake, niggas bg juw. That shit
really on cruise control.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Bu it's not.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
It ain't nothing to even worry about.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Brou shit. Everybody named the Mega star man, what you
want your leggas, It'll be even when you say, alright,
I had enough of the music game.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Now I'm just man, I just want a nigga to
just respect me.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, put some respect on my nation, respect on his name. Bruh.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Come on, That's all I want.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
That's what we had on Yeah. Yeah, look uh not
every day we get somebody in your caliber here that
everybody in the room is a fan of. Man, So
we gonna let some of the people in the room,
you know, ask you some of the question. Everybody, you
wanna ask something. I love the number one stuff. Oh
(43:18):
I I just wanna talk about maybe that I kind
of covered with you and Wayne, if you remember anything.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Gotta know you got some the Hey that w That
was one of my best covers I ever did in
my life. We we shot that in my m in
my neighborhood. I always brought Wayne to the thirteenth Ward
that's where we from, which is all uptown. So we
shot that in my hood and Wayne made me take
my shirt off cause I never was on that type
(43:45):
of shit, but he always wan't. He like, let's do
this shit with no shirt on and let's just flex
it out. But that's one my favorite cover of all time,
my favorite picture, my favorite everything what with Wayne, Like,
that's when we was in the era of after the
br the break up, so we was getting into the
father like son era, and that was a like the
(44:09):
stamp of the father like son. It mean the world
of me. It mean everything to me. And I got
that picture in my house on a big plutch. But
that that was the start of after the break up.
So when I see that picture, I knew that was
after the Hot Boys broke up and we started the
like father like son.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Uh. All artists that you and under the your own
brother right that you don't work with or a which
one were you kind of unsure about at arst in?
Like I I see, wow?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
What was I was never really unsure about none of 'em, right,
I always had confidence in all of 'em. And I
always felt like either we gonna win we gonna lose together.
So I never thought about being unsure about it. I
never had a lack of confidence in none of 'em.
(45:09):
I always had all my confidence in 'em. And I
was a young man with these artists, and I just
felt like we gonna win together, we gonna die together,
we gonna lose together. That was my whole mentality. So
I never thought about no unsecurity. I never thought that
we'll lose. I always went into it with confidence that
we gonna win.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Have you ever had a artist where you was like
where it took you a minute to kids where they
were going?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
With Wane, Wanne, Julie, b Ge, all 'em took a minute.
Wayne was the last to bus But I just believed
in it, and he ended up being the biggest shit
in the world. He end up being the best rapper
alive in life. So but I always I never doubted it.
I just sometime niggas take more time than others. A
(45:55):
lot of niggas be thinking a nigga gonna prosper fast.
That ain't guaranteed. Sometime it take longer. It took us
eight years independent by the time we got major. The
first year we blew, but they ain't know about the
eight years we was already independent, and with Wayne and
Julie and BG they had been. But once we got
(46:15):
on that plateau, everybody was getting educated to him. But
that shit been in the brewin and they had started
right then and there.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And got Wayne started doing the mixtape. How did you
feel about that at first? Did you get it or
was you like what you doing.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Hey, I heard about it on the wind right cause
Wayine started a mixtape after these niggas left. Yeah, when
the break up started, yea, so he started doing his
own little thing, right, But we already had met and
said that this is what he gonna do. He like souner,
we gonna do this. It's more money in it out
fuck it. Let them niggas go there about the way,
we gonna make more money now, right right, And we
was like, man, I'm better than all them niggas anyway.
(46:57):
And I was like, damn you you alright, I you
better than all the niggas anyway. He woke me up, right, Yeah,
I ain't no.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Disrespect as juvet.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
That's my potting up when all this shit happened. So
when he went that route and went to during his mixtapes,
I heard this ship on the winter cause he was
just recording and putting this ship out and nigga was
bringing it to me and I was like, but they
had a short run with the mixtape shit because they
(47:29):
fell out, right, So him and the squad ain't have
a long run, right, But it wa it w it was.
It was. It was more powerful in the City, but
it had a short run. So right after that, me
and him, right after that, Katrina happened. When Katrina happened,
we all went to Texas. Then me and him went
(47:51):
to Miami and that's when we started like father like
son ship And it was right after Katrina. Oh, I
know when who's coming up?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Like everybody had to get it with spec.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
For like New York House.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yeah, people wasn't try to get the South. There was space.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
I mean I was in New York soth when when
it came out, they was not really fun you were
at first. I was like, Nah, many y'all get it?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
What was that like for y'all?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Just try to like having kind of the South one lot,
but then trying to go to other places and get
them to kind.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Of understand which I was.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
The East and the West was like the last two plots,
the last two places that would embrace our music if
it was from the South. So it's always been a
competitive thing for us with them, cause they felt like
we was better. They was better than us.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
We felt like we was.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Better than them, especially in our neckative woods, which the South.
Whilst they caught on to us on the coasts cause
you would have a hit in the South, and it
take a long time to hit in the East and
the West. But once they called on to us like
it is now, I don't think they'll ever get it
back like we hit forever like, cause they had it forever,
(49:07):
like the East and the West. They had it forever,
and it was challenging for us coming up, very very challenging,
cause they wouldn't play all music in no kind of way.
And like I say, Jermaine Dupri really broke that barrier
for us down south cause he went up there and
really made him play all music cause they wouldn't play
all music at all. And I got a lot of
(49:27):
respect for Jermaine Dupre, but they wouldn't play all music.
And Jermaine Dupre went up there and was fighting for
us and our music goll be hissed down bottom and
it be four five six months before it be hit
on the East and West coast. But now it ain't
like that. Our h music hit more up there than downhill.
But it ain't nothing but love for the East and
(49:48):
the West. But I don't think we'll ever h Southern niggas.
We ain't never letting that shit. We we love the
way it, Phiel. We love the way where the doe.
We love the way where the where we could buy
hide not Nah, we ain't never letting this shit go.
It's a feeling, it's a vibe. I don't think we'll
ever let it go ever. Yeah, And I say that respectfully.
(50:08):
I just don't think we'll ever let the vibe and
emotion go. And we with the competitiveness, cause it's it's
all about competing. Yeah, It's about who got the best
town and who can make the best records. That's what
this shit all about. Ain't nobody got to be hating
on nobody to compete with music, right? We just trying
to make the best music and who the people gonna like?
And I think right now we just got it and
(50:30):
we been having it for a minute, and I just
don't think we gonna let it go.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah cha. And the legacy would be the bounce.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Back and how you were able to transition tell the
people about like once man and everything kind of dismatter
and you bound or your.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Producers by the name of jazz fa facts and and
that whole engage.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
In the how facts street facts. Yeah, yeah, how did
that play the parties? I don't know for some reason,
I just been fortunate enough to.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Be able to.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
If a situation break, I could, you know, break into
something different. I was able to carry a long legacy
and this shit like even before the Hot Boys, I
had a couple of groups before that, and uh, if
you if you know the history of cash money, I
had ortises way before that. Then that dismantled, then you
(51:25):
would definitely, Yeah, a bunch of 'em pimp Daddy and
and they a lot of 'em died and l some
of 'em left. Then you come with the the Hot
Boys and Magnoia Charty and rest in peace Shorty and
my daughter she passed away.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
And.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
That that kind of crumbled. Then you had the Wayne
who stood alone. Then he moved and did this thing.
Then I came down louting fuck with thugger. But I
had already signed you got it. I had Cali, I
had uh this just in in my tree run long, bruh.
I have a long, real, real long tree. This shit.
(52:04):
A lot of niggas counted me out, and all I
could tell the niggas I guarantee I wanna lose. I.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
I I built on my s I.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Built myself on that and I stand on that, and
I succeeded in that. Ever, I'm guaranteed I ain't gonna lose.
I think I know what I know, and I think
I'm blessed. And I was fortunate enough to sustain a
lot of weather bruh, A lot of weather and a
lot of ups and downs and a lot of dishcretit
and a lot of doubts. And I want I won
(52:40):
big Hell.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah you did, Chad what you had? Right? Oh? What
your ass? You need to ask something? What you say? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Now, I was about the same dooreside a man watching
Lebron number that was like a high lot of my life.
Blul He liked to go to the games. He'll sport
at it. So we go to games every night. And
that shit was like, I ain't never went to the games.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
So you're telling me Donald L. Tucky Civil Center September two, Yep,
we gonna beat up. Sounds like we're ready to shoot. Hey,
what's up with September the ten? Come on, man, we'll
be in Tallahassee. I think that what we're doing at
the Donald L. Tucker Civic Center, Well, you know you're important.
When they had to say your whole name and your
(53:26):
middle initial Donald L.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Tucky, Donald Lewis took Lwanda lu Wamba Hey man, September
the tenth, Make sure you pull up.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
That's Sunday, Tallahassee. Yeah, ain't that yeah Tallahassee pains. September
the tenth. We looking at everywhere. Tell everybody who got
gas in they come. I'm like where you stay at
A sounds about right.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
I was going to games cause he was going to
the games. So we all go to the games and
to watch that shit. That shit was special. To watch
them dudes and how they did it and how they
won them championships. That shit was super super special. Lebron
James is a very cool, cool individual, like he been
a cash Money fan, big cash Money fan. You saw
him do the party. I see him all the time,
(54:23):
jumping on the jets, off the jets. We always see
each other at clip ports and always been nothing but
respect for him and his family.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Seeing each other at the clipport Hey, man, come on, man, hey,
it just it's just what you do though. But to us,
that shit, he's the other two A that's a that's
a motivation. Bruh A man, yeah, bruh. I ain't never
seen your ass at the clipport. Me and this nigga
be sitting next to each other on the airplane. Do
you understand that I can't even get in the Bends
(54:53):
without talking shit and burden? Man? Boys, first when I
bought my bends out was like that one with the
frog guy. I got that bitch on dump bro. Y'all know,
y'all got rich fast as fun cause your niggas, Wayne said, boy,
you know how slow the new rose. I'm like, I
(55:15):
had no fucking idea how slow it was. Man always
always wanted to know this nigga. They were always looking
from the keys. Man, Why you always had the keys?
It makes sense now because let me get the key
to the road truck. You're like, damn bardy Man won't
(55:36):
come up off them keys.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
So I just give them to my partners or whatever.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
We Hey, man, I don't know what you get rid
of this year, But I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
We had to sit it full of whips because I
always felt like, oh, my niggas wanted a nigga hustling
every day to get a whip, sacrifice in their life
for a whip. So honestly, I swear to guard. Took
like a hundred niggas right to the car lot, right,
and about everybody a call right?
Speaker 2 (56:13):
What call out was that salesman had to be geeked
at a motherfucker man.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
I told everybody, got fifty in the spent, whoever had
a license, and they gonna go get them some insurance.
I bought him a car in Botnament. I bought him
a call and insurance right then and there, like I.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Bought out your hood, blue and white man's mind. I
don't know who the man was, he said. He he's like.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
When I take a life like I couldn't believe.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
We've seen it. We couldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
I actually brought a hundred niggas out of the project
because I traveled with a hundred two hundred niggas everywhere
I went. We had four five buses with two hundred niggas.
I had to get forty fifty runs.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
A bunch of people in that room, man, it's a
bunch of people. Now.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
I was just young, wild, yeah, cause I really thought
we was dreaming. I ain't think that ship was a
real nigga to be just living like that. And I
just wanted to show niggas. So if I was dreaming,
y'all gonna dream with me, Nigga, y'all about to see
this ship. But when I woke up, when I woke
up and realized it wasn't a dream, then I took
(57:25):
this shit serious. Right Then I said, alright, we about
to be We gonna get real money and this ship.
It took me about two three years, right. The breakup
woke me up. Yeah, when niggas was talking about all
that goof of shit, I said, alright, that one made
me buckle down and say, alright, that woke me up.
That shit woke me up and be like, alright, I'm sure, nigga,
(57:47):
I ready to do this shit. I'm the reason why
we all where we at. And that ship made me
buckle down and take it while we took it right.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Shit, Okay, I remember, uh, I think the first one
that hit had was uh June out hot. How how
it changed the game before you once that made you
you got moe.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
All of it was like for us, like we were
still young. So for us, it was like it was
like a party, nigga.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
We partied hard.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
It was a party. M the Washington atmosphere, it was different,
but we still we ain't had realize what was really
going on. We were still young, so it ain't came
to a point to where, like I said later on,
I took this shit serious. At that point, we were
(58:45):
just fucking.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
We thug it.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
We got everyw on the bus with two hundred niggas
with two hundred guns, and we thug it like that.
It wasn't It wasn't serious for us.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
We were just rapping.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
But later on in life, I want to taking it
like all right, I took this ship serious.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Oh g man, we damn sure appreciate fucking with us.
Man this ship re man. We're gonna We're gonna see
if we can get you to sign a few pieces.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
I'm gonna do that. But with more than anything, I
need y'all niggas to fly to Yamy. I want you
niggas to fly to the jungle. I'm gonna put them
pieces on y'all. I'm talking big boys. Ship.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
Hold on, man, I gotta do this. Man the South shown.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
At whit.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
This ain't a ghetto legend. I don't know what the
fu is man.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Ghetto man, Young Doug Man, that's my little nigga man. Yes,
we start nigga, man, what.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
We'll taking pictures of? Almost get one? Hey, bro, we
gotta get on some ya.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Tell your nigga I want you to come to the
game one in the jungle. I just need a dayn
too with you coming, and I'm gonna put that woop
on your woop.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Come on, come on, we already were with it. Help ready, bro,
Let's get the provice, let's do it well. Step ahead,
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