CASSIDY in the Trap | The 85 South Show - The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
That whole situation is this that nigga got more time
than the cot that killed George Rooyd.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
How much time they got twenty three years?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
They gave him two years.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
I don't think he got.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Sent Yo got twenty two.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
But that's what they're saying is up to that's what
he faint facing your.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Ship what what what states Caliboornia?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, then they saying after that they're gonna get deported
because he's from Canada and ship.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Man that told I mind my I remitted to get deported.
They support me.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hey, noah, they lock you up first, then they support you.
So yeah, you locked up head, you do the time there,
then after the time over, you gotta go back, right.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Y'all wasn't outside when this shit came out.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Y'all wasn't outside. They used to be mad at your drink.
By the time this had come old club with the drink.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
On it is drunk so much filled quiquid. Don't care, man,
I'm a hustle.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Niggas probably the god that's my.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
Man, were able to stay consistent mand the decade. That's crazy, bro,
mat think about when you came in, like what are
you dropped?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
My first all new faith, like the end of three
beginning of our four, I was dingle was out O.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Three, but their bring came outfore.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
We was a young nigga that right, like like teenagers nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, well nah from my album to drop out twenty one.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Okay, okay, here young we're taking your feet with Yeah. Yeah,
what's your name?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
You the ash person?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
You dump this?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah I got.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I got my first deal when I was seventeen, Like
when I first signed a brother, I was seventeen.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh, but I ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Drop no my album until I was twenty one.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Now we gotta get it out of there. Bro, you
game for it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
You're gonna hear that ship. Bro, it's going up tonight. DC.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I did this song right here because I just came
from jail. They shine give me the death penalty of life.
Then I beat that kid. Then I came home and
got in an accident, had amnesia and all that shit lost.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
My memory was in a coma.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
They said I could never ramp again and ship my bank.
My brain was too badly damaged. They said I was
never gonna be able.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
To this deep ship.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Look look when I.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
When I started recording the album and Ship, they wanted
like a party track, like something like more up tempo,
like that could rock in the clubs.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
But I wasn't in party more so That's why I
did this. John. It was like still party song, it's
still drinking, but you head through the whole. John, I'm
talking about like the ship.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I was going through the accident, the case, even in
the video, and Ryan.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Passed myself getting locked up.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Ryan passed seeing myself like in the accident, like shit
like that, Like that's what's.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
On my mind while I'm doing this, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I can hear it too, but I'm home.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Like it's like a party drone.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Man, It's like it's a nigga out song. Get a
drinking the whole. This the one flat, but this one
turn that up?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Ja, this the one?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
But then they got the whole sample?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Man, what's the first platinum?

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Rington told the church and the ring tone, I bought this, well,
I bought.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Without you.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm I'm I'm.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Laughed about me? What this?

Speaker 4 (04:26):
She was the first flat?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's hard?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Did you reinvent the sample? The sound? Would you want
to say? In the millennium in the two.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Thousand after this.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
This is one of the biggest samples though, this is one.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Of the biggest semple something from that was more current,
Like that's when Nigga.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Do it now a lot, right, because that's the same still.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
That that song was still technically fresh.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
To they did it.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Jip did it with that bring him out? He bring
him up.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
He did it with to bring him out.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, Swiss gave that the t I after Hustler.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Like he was in that zone.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
So that's crazy to have a jay Z sample. Wouldn't
get it clear too?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
What?

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah, that was undeniable, Yo.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
You could see like t I and all of them.
They sampled like Hove and like would bring him out
and all that. You know, fifty cent he had that
I Run New York. I get it. Oh, I get it?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, that same.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I ran New York. It's now.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
So did y Z help a lot of motherfuckers unintention
of it?

Speaker 5 (05:56):
But that Swiss too, right, Nah, okay, just going with
the influence of that ship.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, it just just the vibe.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
But this ship here when I had that great next
tail chirp, the flipball, oh my ring told.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right after this two came out, that's when I got
locked up when I was in jail. That's when I
heard every day I'm hustling.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Yeah, every day, my husband, man, that.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Ship every day I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And I was locked up and that ship just start
going crazy. It's every day.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's not true, every day of hustling.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
It that's wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I know itself.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Nah, it's it's just the I mean, just the hustler
vibe was like so lit that that's why that ship.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Just worked right away, right.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
You got here?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, oh, bout that time, about the time.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's about that.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Too, it almost is.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
But I gotta play in the city too, man, in
Philly with this already, Yeah, well.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
I gotta played one more before we go into this
ship though.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
This Then he boom did it Philly Nigga the production.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know it shot the video Benny Boone Then oh yeah,
Benny brother.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
He's from Philly though, so he kep it on Philly.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Then later on he put me in the next day
air like the heat the.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Movie Mike yelp here, Yeah, low key fucking with Buddy
bro what's his name?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I can't think his name? Who didn't been and everything though?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
M well, he took it back with that one.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Why was the jit?

Speaker 6 (07:45):
Why was it the sick grade? But what with the
next tail chirp? Like four minutes on their whole play.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
That one put me jail in.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
How bad the whole field?

Speaker 7 (07:58):
Biggo?

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Why you was going crazy on this motherfucker right here?

Speaker 3 (08:03):
This nig heard this ship.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Still, I'm shining rime on the street.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Steel turned that ship up the prints field.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
Anything I stick, will anything.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I stick anything.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
This man Game's rich ship changed like brick chickens.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I'm rich.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
It changed, change the riskless big game.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'm gonna make it like this skits.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
My album win gold in the month.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
That was a quick click you know ship.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
The lint kids eight one in the gunstantly pulled click click,
you know switch clisks like seas.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Palm over my fore arms so I can shoe straight.
I'm about to make a.

Speaker 8 (08:40):
Hard dikeat like suitcakes, something dope like I go in
the booth and shoe face the skates and the craze.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I'm not blut.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
Pulled by the seacase.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Hello, I got facing the white jeans about the copper
converse with the crib like ice tees.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It was a late cheese.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I spend a hunting jeans.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And in the way of working work right quick, we.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Don't see him.

Speaker 8 (09:07):
Don't see him to see him?

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Right, you know what I'm saying, love he do?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You know what I'm saying. The mother fuck you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Shot up in a word scratching nothing that smacked before
the u r L.

Speaker 8 (09:36):
You know what I'm saying, going to smack for a minute.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Come, we're going back that ship very you.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
Know said smack.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
We recorded this like I'm talking to him right now.
But this was before the u r L was invented,
like when he was the cameraman and ship.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
That's ship because you came from the battle Rap era
manat rap.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, but I ain't talking about that. You are real
batter rap. I'm coming about askingly like street bat.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right for sure?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Oh yeah, that's all I did.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Man.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That ship was big in Philly too, Man, that should
shoot a big.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
How do you get big battle.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Rap man.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Nigga?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Mom Oh. From the time I was seventeen, I was
in New York too, like right, so running all around
with the rough Riders, Battle of niggas in every.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Steak what right?

Speaker 3 (10:37):
So that ship was really like that.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
They were just hitting against people like for sure, come on,
we got somebody and he going sure.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I did my first album out here though. Doppler Huh,
I was in there recording, oh a Doppler.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
Okay, were down here the apl Street.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
How that man? You've been down here with photo right
like that.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Shure was lift.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Yeah, you roll off order you Finnah smoke off four
of them eventually.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
But that crazy, No, I like that's how I know that? Yeah,
I used to do.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
That too when I'm on the Midland.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
You always say that.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Well where I said that? Rolled fifteen blood back like
all fifteen but all fifteen three?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
WoT I get on that?

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Mining rolled up by twenty blood?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Could wait to smoke all Twitter the whole.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Not high wow, Rodney sting though, Nigga, I was facing
hixtend know, don't you ask.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Me to hit this motherfucker facing.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
I'm facing this bitch to Twitter minute to get the bits.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Together, going through something. I'm going through.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Something I'm I stray.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know how that is? You know, young Nigga act
like you can't deal with ship.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
She a regular life man, Chaz something this ship hard ship.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Up you alright, Nigga ain't know what.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
A hard way going on.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Man, you okay, No, I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
My mama raid me, how she raaid Meuse well, I
was fucked up.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You were fucked up?

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah? How long?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Shit we had a roof over here. We had got
damn clothes.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I mean, I mean long.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
We had the roof for obut yet look back the clothes.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
The nigga took the clothes back.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Fuck them cloth.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
No, we had clothes, but you know, I grew up
on handing down until what time for me to buy
my own ship brol here year?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
How you feel about it?

Speaker 7 (12:33):
How I feel?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, she I'm blessed. Well, but your hand me down
was different though good.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
My hand me down was older. Yeah, my sisters were older,
but they were fresh, so I knew.

Speaker 9 (12:44):
I ain't having a problem with the hammer down cause
they were.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Fresh from Still was girl jeans though the girl girl jeans.
There was a girl jeans, the waste skinning in the leg,
the waist fit, but the leg leg. Look, everybody water,

(13:07):
This wasn't fabo that bitch say, chick on the back.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Got an apple bottle?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
We got no apple bottle, but you got a little
cat of your head.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Got on your heads.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
And my sister wore like f one. She was a tomboy.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Took her shoes.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
She didn't how it was. I took her shoes, but
took my nephew clothes. So he was skinny, but he
was lanking a little bit. So my clothes used to
be beef. So I take his clothes.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
But I tell my sister's shoes shoes.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Who what shoes he had? Sister she wore like f
on one and jays and ship. I foot bigger than
mine until life.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
But there was the girl one.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
They was soft hell off.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
She had all the ship she had the Valentine f.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
O one.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Got the red sweight. We went to school with some kids.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
On had some kids.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I did have some kids kids. If you want some kids,
you fuck up?

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yeah them girls shoes, no pro head, not pro kid,
just regular kids.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
No, I have pro kids.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah them kids for nurses.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
No, I had pro kids. Girl. I'm not broken.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I remember I bought pro kids.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I want to school.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I'm probably be like, oh no, you got no brokads.
I'm like nigga wrong with pro kids. The more you said, boy,
you can't wear them, I was like, bad, he's a
pro head.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
That's fucked up.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
We probably got trauma from somebody fucking with our shoes
growing up.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
That's why we buy some man them ships. Now walk
that ship probably.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
And I clean them.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
But I still listen to Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Well it ain't nobody around ey.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, man, you're still in Arcad.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, And I diding that verst And then you know
what made me do that ship?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Mean, I ain't got a lot.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Of My lady was listening to the ship, and I
was like, you fucked up.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
You know, to turn it off.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
This ship supposed to be because you fucked up?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Lady? Why you playing this right?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
So once I saw that she didn't give a fuck,
I was like, first off, this.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
We lived into your list show. You can redo this bitch,
I mean, we got to buy somebody.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
They're gonna be mad, he.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Said in the Monkey Money.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Basic DC.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
You're gonna redo the vocals.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I'm gonna redo the vocals. Yeah, get mad at me.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Put somebody else on there and drop that bitch again.
That shi will still going, It'll still go, can still
go that.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Cut it up, man, He'll be right. Do you want
to come to my hotel?

Speaker 4 (16:17):
All you gotta do?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
It's what it ain't no cat niggas say.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Now, your niggas say the Lias Bro not listening to
your old playlist. If you want to stop listening to
cows Man.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
What keV that's the problem when this ship do come on,
I end up playing the whole playlist.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
And I'm talking about all these other artists. I believe
I was right.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Now still make me cry.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Boys, So just put everybody else.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
It's a lot of niggas going.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
He said.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
That's accurate, Bro, Bro, he doesn't he much.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
He's a part of it percent of the record him
key swear, baby, what the what the baby?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I'm about colleague suspect and.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Won't come on this.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's similar to.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
My accent.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
But they are responsible for a lot of music, Bro,
a lot of music, Bro, because he wrote other people
with r Kady and Babyface are responsible for a lot
of ship.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
If niggas want to be.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Really what they got to do with anything.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
We gotta get rid of our killer.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
That's not thirty three.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Percent of the music.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Got rid of himself kind.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Of hey man, that's really gonna be up to the
people and listen to that ship because it's some like
it's a lot of terrible motherfuckers who've done.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Great ship, that ship that didn't get no black glass
for it, right right, I ain't showing that ship right.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Wrong.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
We don't keep the same energy when it's uh. Other
persuasions who like Elvis Jered y Lewis, they have they.

Speaker 9 (18:04):
Have married a little girl, look.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
About like fouteen and three quarters.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
They act like it wasn't a time where that wasn't
the deal, like they like.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
They knew.

Speaker 10 (18:17):
But you know in the other people races and coaches,
they call that practically.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Signs is America.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
I know there wasn't no other but.

Speaker 10 (18:26):
You know they you know, when they're doing wrong, that's
what they call it.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, you know the other races, that's their culture.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I can tell y'all had wild shows before me, because
this ship like a battle rap, you know when you're
the main event and you come out in the crowd
looking like that, like they're still ready to see it.
But they tired and ship they.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Look like that.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
All these people just got here. You know, where the
fun they were. None of these people come to another the.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Six now they just got there for you.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
I thought they with you, they.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Can we ain't even started yet.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
You thought this ship started when started.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, we ain't even got to none of it. This
is all the prelium.

Speaker 10 (19:09):
Yeah we didn't talking ship can gonna be in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't got no start, but man, like that's why
we ain't started, just started to day.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
We got you your listen to some of these tunes.
Kickback like you at the crib all that you're ready to.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Get started out?

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Like, I mean you ready what started, right, nigga j
W blame me some pampin.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Man, we start.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
We let the paper play for a few minutes and
want the crowd up.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, I've seen that place that was on time today?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Did these ship?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah? I was on time?

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Real nigga, Man, you ain't got no hustle.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I know you got some ship.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yo.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
Why do you even playing aver the one you should
have came in? Wait?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Why you didn't play that roll?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Little but again?

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Hey, because I asked for some pamp you I forgot
we had the hustler again?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Hold up, no who we got in there?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Roal?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
We got the hustle?

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Love who we got yah?

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I said? I said no, Yo, No who we got
in the real? We got no munselon?

Speaker 6 (20:29):
I say.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Who we got in there?

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Roal, we got this?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, what we got?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
A three?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Five?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Should not mad? How's a week? Holdo cross it?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (20:44):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, you ain't gotten in the
sight You just like okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay, you
ain't gotten the saying okay, okay, y'all, okay, y'all, okay ya.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I said, I say, I say, don't fall hold up.
Who we got in the room. We got the hustle.
I say, no, full y'all. Who we got in the room?
We got the hustle.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
What you're gonna say?

Speaker 5 (21:26):
That's when I passed it.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
He was body and it's too much and I want to.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I was bothering.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
I said, we got the.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
No cap, no cap. These ain't called yt he just
I got. I don't know what that is chick for.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Lace your chicken, but the man's got a cow.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Come on, I don't trust these bitches.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I'm wearing a condom right now.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
I swear to God just in case something pop off,
and I don't want no baby kids to get shut off.
Babysit up with the baby sitter throwing that shit a
baby spinnery.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
They ain't playing with y'all.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Told her she want a relationship, get another nigga, because
I'm the nigga on the side. Don't call me when
you got somewhere to go, call me when you need
a rat. If you want me to tell you what
I mean, I'm just gonna explain it like that, y'all.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
See, Don't hit me when you need full tass.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Just hit me when you need a little on the side.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Don't call me when you need a refrigerator for it,
call me when you want a sandwich in a Red Bull.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because I don't give no fucks.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
I'm not gonna be stopping every day to go and
get you Starbucks, you know, because I'm just that nigga.
You gonna come by kick can smoke a couple of
blunts with hey, and we don't never take no pens.
And if you see me and your kids, call me misster.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Because it's all of respect. And when you ask for
that little money.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
I gave you cash and not a check, and I'll
be spending straight back.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
I gave her cash money, no cash.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
App she tried to act like a nigga. Didn't really
do that, okay.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
And I don't want to get to you know, I know,
talking about get mad when I talk about money.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
See niggas laugh.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
I'm on nigga ass because it ain't really funny.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
See, people get.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
That paper and don't even want to call you back.
They don't want to pay you back, and they be like,
I call you back bull shit, and I don't play
with it. I pulled that bell of bitch House just
to see who she's staying with. Yeah, whose name is
on the bills? I go act like I'm shipping and
read the names on the pill.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
The boys, Hey, who you get it from? Come on?
And they ain't got ship to do it nothing. Welcome
back to the eighty time Self Show. Listen, whoa listen?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Now?

Speaker 5 (24:35):
You know I always have to go look and see
where we fall in the rankings of Great Ship.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Man. The eighty five Self Show is rated higher.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Than that week that they play all the Roots movies,
you know, when they play the whole roots all the
way through.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
That week of TV. We tested higher.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Than that week.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yes, we did think that.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Week would what started black history much?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Come on man, mean bush and come on man, come
on man, come on man.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
We're going great ship every weekend.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Don't nobody won't even talk about was.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
The lady that. I can't remember her name. You're talking
about LeVar Burton. They had the.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Chicken George, Chicken George, they had a bunch of Yeah,
who got Jr. Was Chicken George. The singing dude, singing dude.
We saw his name, Lean Vering was shinging George. He
wasn't a singer.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
He was Dan Raims.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Lou Got played the fiddle, Okay, Yeah, And then some
kind of way that ship went from LeVar Burton to
the Daddy from Good Time, Yeah, he turned into He
went from reading Rainbow at the Good Time on the

(26:05):
same not a commercial break.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
He came back to commercial. This nigga was old and
grown the country. I never believe that the masters Ja.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
That's why I couldn't never see him as just James Evans.
He was coaching Kent too, But that ain't got nothing
to do with none of this ship.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Man.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
We been on a fucking streak over here, and we've
been bringing all the ghetto legend.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Same man. It's just one of them coins that had
to be.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
It had to be.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Man, he's taking no money. Get the away from you, man.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
We only bring ghetto legends, hustlers. Come on, people who
made something out of nothing.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Come on, the best dancers.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Philly, the best rappers, the best everything. And when we
say ghetto legends, that means like you forever gonna have
your name, Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Of ghetto panthe god bringing back strippers.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Come on, see, that's why you're up there.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
You always you always got the best fucking ad ons
and ideas. But you were in the game, still in
the game when the ship was actually good to be.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Had.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
He said he had the number one.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
The first platinum ring tone.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
You don't never run these type of accolades down and
ship it for winning.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Made all the niggas say man put the beat on.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Goddamn, you heard the nigga wrap like that? What do
you say about the dog house? None other than Cassidy.
You literally sit here and do this ship all day
about a very cool ship you done did for the

(27:56):
rap game.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
You batter rapping now dropping music.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Still still got ship, money, ice stuff, new outfit.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Match.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
That's how you know a nigga still got his money.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Nigga, Nigga match everything nigga.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
When a nigga metch her nigga, when you see most
when you when you ain't got.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Ship, you wear clothes when you straight you have outfits. Yeah,
no cap look at the women they know that between
closing outfits, that nigga.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Got an outfit on. That's what you wear on the
first thing.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
I'm gonna fit perfect, Like that's a nice outfit. So
you meal you as boys and you just put on
some clothes, put on, you put on some clothes you wear.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Is what you wearing.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
I thought you said you was just gonna put some
clothes on and you got on the outfit.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Know, I ain't know you was wearing out? Where you going?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Talking to the trap? What's good?

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Your avenue, man, marriers man ship? Were just be just
just making sure everything go the way it's supposed to go,
holding it down.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
How was it?

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Dope story? You just to it too?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Work fuk with.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Sneaking in the bathroom, lady taking and ship.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, I will google your medics. I don't know what
the fun going on with you did that before? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, fan witch?

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Why is your iron low?

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Oh so she got Okay, she's crazy a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Just your.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
That's hard.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
What's been up though?

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Man?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Working hard, grinding man.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
That's all we ever do. Fuck granted to get it right.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Put the best project together in my life.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
I think right now, like this album the best, the
best project of your life.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
What's the name of it?

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Bars is back.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
People don't even know your name, Bars, bars bad Ship.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So happy with this project, man, A lot of dope.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Ship. You inspired a lot of people. Man.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
I hope I could play that ship for y'all.

Speaker 10 (30:30):
Man, Yeah, you know the people don't want to hear
it anyway.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
They sit at home trying to figure out what the
hustler fin is safe. So so bring us back how
it all started?

Speaker 9 (30:40):
Because I know heard off camera you saying you with
the rough route, I ain't do nothing about none of
that ship because I definitely had your because I had
a ring tom on the church even church that was
out that was after to tell that was.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
When you were tweeny one. That was four years ago.
I was damn near three. What do you want to
be saying?

Speaker 9 (31:00):
Because I got so bring us back like you.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Nigga three like a mom.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
See he was still at.

Speaker 7 (31:18):
That age and yell at him.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
He started cracking.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
That I won't tell you.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
You don't let out.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
The pean bands.

Speaker 9 (31:28):
I won't let out I'm going there.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's nice.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
This nigga that's why you a ship.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Just let me, that's why your skin was fucked up
all the nigga.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Nigga kid just that right.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Four months ago, Nigga gave meself incident.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Nigga elbows hard than the mother sleeping in there, This
says been.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
And that whittle fan on he.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Might for the LOONI on yourself.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
In the bed with a fan on.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Man, you cold, don't try. It's funny boy. This nigga here,
man catch him, tell him how this ship started up?
Because I remember when you came on the rep seeing
where the big ass had the big ass T shirt

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had the big as had the big ass T shirt.
God damn chant hanging down to the belly.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Make sure was in man. The old pictures like damn
niggas were super bagging.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
We wore, We wore way too many clothes. I don't
know what the fun we thought was gonna happen. This
is this is what like O two.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
This nigga dumb his hell?

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Oh, I told you he Hey man, I can't.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
To be around this nigga too. It's been too long.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Shit biders in that bad back then.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Nah for real?

Speaker 5 (33:28):
If they closed was the ship everybody had extra fabric
man tall teens, nigga.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm talking about. It's to the point now.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
If you see some jeans that's too big, it just
pitch you off.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
That's what they all out of young people. They were
in the bagging shit. Nah.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I think we I think we're back at a point
because of the Internet where we at right now, like
anything go, it could be tight, baggy could be in
like any any time, pick right now and you know
what I mean, be an individual.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I think it's different right now.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Crazy. I couldn't fuck with them biggers jeans again.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
I tried.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I couldn't.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
I was like a size twelve win thirty four twelve.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
There ain't even no paying size.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
That's when I was a child.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I wasn't even an adult payt yet.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
I'm like a twelve.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I was seven two. I was wearing kids clothes all right.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Man, tell him how this ship started. He wasn't but three.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Started in the city in Philly into this radio competition
called the Cipher. It was like on the radio show.
Started winning battles for like once and once at a time.
That's how I got popular in the city. That Swiss pop.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
In the barbershop.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
He bought me out of New York to meet his
brothers DN wh They was the CEOs of Rough Riders,
and that's how got my first deal, like a nine nine.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah he was how old, seventeen seventeen and you got
your whole did just off the radio shit?

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Really from their intro you just.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
The radio show is what made me get popular enough
to meet Swiss father when he came through the city. Okay,
he bought me out in New York. I ain't have
no demo or no music done. When he introduced me
to why, I just started rapping. You know what I mean,
why I love me? He waited.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
I had to meet his brother d D came through.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
I started rubbing for him, and at this time I
was in a three main group called Larceny Family. You
go back and do like look at Rough Rider Ride
to Die volume two.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Volume three. We was on there, you know, I mean
little niggas.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I mean, that's how I build my relationship with Swiss
being signed the Rough Riders and all that. So I
was grinding with them for some years and then the
Swiss wanted to do his own production company one of
the artists, so he came by me. We started for
Surface Records got to deal with Jay Records Clive Davis,

(36:10):
and that's how we put out all the music like
I'm a hustler and all that.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Ship you fuck with.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Man.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Tried to make a long story show as possible.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
I want to hear.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Details was popping at the time, DM next, what what's
what Shorty?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
The Charlie Baltimore? What you want with Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Week Entertainment like.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Came and always thought she was a rough ride of
her the mean it wizard.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
I always thought she was a though the thing.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Okay, she did it with.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Early like like a little few of Rockefeller Johns in
the beginning.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
Right right right, Oh wow, we thought she was a
rough rider.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
She was just Eve was rough ride was the world.
Dragon was cool now.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
They had it on Smash when I was when I
was seventeen, when I first signed to him, they were
super lit, like X was moving heavy. The whole label
was like moving they have they They was like the
biggest thing around.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
So it's one of your happy stewards.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
DMX. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
The time when we did the BT Cipher, it was
like when they first started, like having niggas rap on
the on the BET Awards and Ship, and there was Me,
d MX, even Murder.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Move and we had like a cipher, so it was dope.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I ain't never Yeah, he was down with rough Riders
at one time too, so we was all representing like
rough Riders.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
X Eve, Me and Move and it was like a cipher.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
We was all around and went first, I went second,
then even went the X went that's.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Hard, man, It's hard.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
But that was a memorable moment because I never did
no records with Acts, Like, even though I was on
Rough Riders for that period of time and he was
super lit, we never did no records together.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
So that was like the closest.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Thing of like, you know, I mean having some edging
stone that I did with him, that being t Sype.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Of ship.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Eve out there doing Billionaires ship. Now what going hard?
She got whole lands.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Billionaire even know how to get to it?

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Man?

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, sure always to really ship man.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
City Philly got got some motherfuckers that came out that
bitch shit man. Y'all got a strong music like just
seen we was talking about even earlier with the battle
Rap ship.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
So like.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
How that ship like that's that's got you going right?
And how long did that continue? What made you, you know,
get back into it?

Speaker 7 (39:05):
And why is battle rap part of y'all culture? Like
I mean, cause that's how I learned from up top
from mouth shit, Like that's how y'all were rapping, Like
that's what y'all call music.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
It's real competitive in the city, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Niggas was always trying to be lyrical because we like
close to New York, like the Mecca. It was like
right there, close to Jersey where a lot of the
legends is from. Like we like right there right, so
we knew how to be lyrical, knew all of the
slang and all of the terminologies.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
We knew how to jump in that bag.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
But at the same time, we further south and like
in a different place, so we got our own accent,
our own way we put words and sound, so it
was like distinctive, you know what I mean. But it's
like a real competitive place, like with everything with sports,
with just living, grinding, whatever you do is like a
competitive place. So because niggas was trying to be lyrical.

(40:05):
When niggas was competitive, you get battle rap, you know
what I mean. But it was different forms of it,
like like you know, as hip hop of off the
way people battle rap of off you know what I'm saying,
Like this way y'all look at battle rap now, and
it didn't always exist. Like the way people battle was different,

(40:27):
and a lot of times it was like cipher style,
like you wrap our rap like we just ciphering, and
it's like who the best?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
So who could last the longest?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
But like you know, directly saying shit about the person
that's across from you looking at the nigga facing you know,
I mean, being aggressive and disrespecting the nigga and trying
to destroy the nigga in front of you, like with
just bars, like not really no flow, like you know
what I'm saying, not trying to flow to a beat
naked song.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
You just try and.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Lyrically just break this nigga down with bars like that.
Form came later, and I'm a big part of that,
right you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
So when you say you're a big part of that,
what do you say that when it switched when you
came in the game and you showed them how to
stop being aggressive and we're going to be lyrically.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Wow, Now, battle rap was always in the city but
like I said, there was a different version of it.
So I was on the radio on this cipher show
winning for months at a time. I got super famous
in the city. All of the big people from the
city know about this show, listen to it. It was fans
of it, like you know what I mean. The ratings

(41:40):
was crazy. It was a radio one station, so the
power station was suffering.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
When this shit came on. It was like that lit right,
you know what I mean. So I was.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Holding that shit down for a long period of time.
But this is back in the day before the internet.
Like now, if I was winning the radio show like that,
it'd be something connected to it. Niggas go to social
media to see what I look like, where I'm from,
learn about me, you know what I mean, get into
my music. But back then, this was before the internet,
so niggas were super fans.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
But nobody knew what I looked liker, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Word of mouth and they were saying that I was young,
and they could hear in my voice that I'm probably
like a young boy, but I'm super nice, so you
know what I mean. It was hard for niggas to
know what I look like. So I started traveling around
and just battling, spitting like you know what I mean,
challenging everybody so that they could connect this nigga from
the radio or how I really am and how I

(42:32):
really look. It's a place called Broadnaline in the city.
It's like where a bus depot where a bunch of
buses and trains come to. So it's like, no matter
what school you go to in the city, like you
know what I mean, a lot of.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
People meet up in this place after school. Like it'd
be like.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Hundreds of thousands of kids out there, you know what
I'm saying, just all meeting up in this one location.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
From my high school is like right up the street.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
So after I get out of school, I walk down
the street the Broadnaliny and this way. Not just people
from my high school, but from high schools all around
the city would meet up at r And that's why
I would have ciphers at and battle every day. So
you know, a lot of famous artists that come from
the city passed through there seeing it, you know what
I mean, experience, They witnessed it because it was every
day like we was out there just.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Going crazy, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
So a combination of me winning this radio show Cipher
and then battling in the street like that and carrying
it is what made me super popular. So anybody came
through the city like who hot or who's next, my
name was coming up. So that's how it's getting wild opportunities,
and you know what I mean, meeting people and figuring
it out because of that, you.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
Know what I mean, So you got to do your
own promo, like I need to go out here, let
it be known.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
On fucking out right. How you knew to do that?
Like age? You just figured that shit out?

Speaker 4 (43:58):
How the fuck you was?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Just like.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
I think the best market in marketing plan is like
staying true to the culture.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
And I found out that I wanted the rat when
I was in the fourth grade.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
So this before I had bills, kids and responsibilities. I
just wanted to be the best. I didn't care about
the money or the business. I just wanted to keep
impressing people with what I wrote down. So for that reason,
you know what I mean, it's the reason why I
made a lot of decisions. So me winning this radio competition,

(44:34):
it steps in the direction of me being the best,
like I want to be but now I need people
to know what I look like, who I am, So
now I'm in the street battling anybody.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
That say they rap.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Then I told you I got to deal with Rough Riders.
When I was seventeen, I thought when you get a deal,
it's over. Like you get a deal and you get
money and you just out and it's just like it's
just make a song and they just put it.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
That's what I thought the deal was.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
But it was just a production deal to Rough Riders,
Like I didn't have an actual deal, you know what
I'm saying, to a major, So it was no budgets,
no money. They had studios that I was able to
record in, and I was able to be around all
that energy, like you said X, even all these people,
but I didn't have a budget for myself or for
my group to record music or to put it out

(45:25):
and get it on the radio. We ain't even had
no marketing then promotion budgets. So it was like a
test period, like to see if you had what it
takes to take it to the next level. But it
was difficult when you were around people like DMX and
all this energy that's already selling all these records. It's
like yo, when you're gonna get your opportunity. So years
is passing. And like I said, we was on Rough

(45:48):
Ride Rode of Die volume two and volume three, so
we was doing stuff, but it's one record, Like you
know what I'm saying, it's not like me the main focus.
So me knowing that is what made me jump back
in that battle bag, like in order to get what
I need and get people to focus on me and
know that I'm a priority. It's to battle everybody. So

(46:10):
anybody that say that they wrap, anybody that I ever
see that got bars, I'm going at them and prove
that I'm better than them. Because a lot of niggas
got situations and opportunities. So if I'm better than them,
then you know that I need one too. So that's
what I start doing. And because I was signing the
rough Riders and we like from it's like a battle

(46:31):
type of environment. I said, Now, DMX, the locks, drag Eve,
none of them don't gotta battle no more like anybody
that come through here, they gotta go.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
They gotta battle me. Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
They could just chill unless they unless they run through me.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
And nobody couldn't you know what I'm saying. So Ever,
since I came around, they ain't have to battle no more.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
And by me battling so much as what got my
name known and what me just want me as a
solo artist, which helped me get out the Rough Riders
deal and get into a new deal, right, and then
get the real deal, which was with Jay Records and
Clive Davis to open up the budgets, to be able
to get in the studio, get niggas like r Kelly
on Records.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Put it out on the radio and millions of people
hear it and it's right in your face.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
You know what I'm saying. This require when this swing is.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
Coming to you personally, like yo, I want to fuck
with you.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Even the cell like I went gold, Like you know
what I mean, I went gold my first project. But
you know, now with the streaming and all that, like
you know what I mean, it's probably even more than that.
But from the very beginning I went gold on my
first project, right, Yeah, And this was not like the
digital days like this is when real physical hard copies

(47:51):
were selling.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Out the store.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah, but to get a CD, to get a CD
printed up. You know what I'm saying. It might cost
a dollar or two. You know what I'm saying to
make a CD, you know what I mean with the
artwork packaged up. You know what I mean, and then
put in the right place for a nigga to buy it.
So if you're paying two dollars a CD and you
want to go gold and sell five hundred thousand records,

(48:14):
then that's a million dollars that you need to just
put into buying CDs alone, not including marketing and promotion,
I including your recording budgets, not incluing your events and
you're traveling around and trying to make the shit makes sense.
Not including your features, your producers, your studio time, none
of that. Just talking about just the CDs alone. If

(48:35):
you want to go gold or platinum. If you want
to go platinum and sell a million records, you had
to get a million CDs printed up. So even if
you could get a gut rating, it's a dollar CD.
That's still a million dollars that you need a front.

Speaker 7 (48:47):
That you need a front.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
So that's why it was hard for the average nigga
to come out and pop, cause niggas ain't got them
type of budgets, So you got to get a deal.
You got to go through them companies way now, Like
even though we got technology and niggas feel like they're
more independent, niggas don't got the type of money they own,
like a.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Portal that like bring out your music right now.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
But so you gotta partner up with somebody that owned
the portal big enough to release your music.

Speaker 7 (49:15):
Right and they taking all the money.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah, so nigga's not really independent now. It's the same ship.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Did you hear that shit? Snoop said about the streaming
What is it about?

Speaker 5 (49:24):
How it's like, yeah, it's cool, how you can run
these numbers up and to ask the question like how
can the artists get a billion streams and not have
a million dollars?

Speaker 4 (49:34):
And he was like, yeah, this shit sound good, but
where the fuck is the money.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
Whoever's running this streaming ship is having the money.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Definitely they pay you.

Speaker 10 (49:43):
You gotta you gotta damn nil or somebody gotta listen
to you and ship Twitter five.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Hours time.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
That don't you hit five dollars.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
It's up to the artists to figure it out. You
can't expect the people. That's like in the position into
these labels to figure out how streaming gonna work, get
their legal team to put together plan, figure it out,
and just present it to the artists, because what do
they get out of that. It's up to you to
figure it out before they figure it all the way out,
which they doing right now.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
With physical records selling.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
How they had that figured out the same way they're
going to figure this digital shit out. It's just new.
But what's crazy about it is a stream don't got
an exact number of what it is, like every it.
I'm just saying every platform pay different for what the
stream is worth. Like every platform is say, a stream

(50:40):
is worth different amounts. So even if you do got
a billion streams, it's like from where from a bunch
of different platforms that pay all different amounts for a stream.
So it's hard to figure out what that that's worth.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
And it's like little percentages, you know what I'm saying.
It's different from how it was, y'all.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Like you said, coming back from back then when you
was rapping.

Speaker 10 (51:02):
You knew the copies, you knew the money that was
being made.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
The ring was crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
You have the net net lane. You let motherfucker buy
a ring tone.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, that was like that was a form of technology.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
But it was like it was like paying a bottle
just to get.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Was in the direction of going like digital. Actually boyd
the ship right, like I had to phone up and
download it and hear it. It's like in that direction.
So it's like the future. So everybody was on it.
Plus phones. You know, back in the day, niggas ain't
even have phones. Niggas had beepers and you had to
use the pay phone. So when cell phones started getting

(51:45):
more popular and the price went to where the average
person could afford it, now everybody want the phone.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
So everybody got phone. So if my phone could.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Ring a certain way and sound a certain way, like
how I wanted different uture.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Do recording their voicemail when they record a song on
their voicemail, so you know what, niggas want to ring
the song that they should played.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
That was even the back in the day form of
like you know what I'm saying, like the future, like
when you had the regular box answering machines like you
know what I'm saying, And then you come with cell
phones where you could leave a voice message and customize
it and the ship just play like that it's like
the future, you know what I mean, you just got
to go.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
But that shit don't last forever.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
It came a time where niggas couldn't help but leave
some type of shit on the answer machine because niggas
was leaving messages and that was the thing. But now
when text income all these forms and emails and all
these forms of communication, and now everybody got a phone.
Niggas just like niggas don't even want they ship to
ring nigga shit on vibrate or ring like however, the

(52:50):
fucking ship ring right.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Ring tones don't even want to ring.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
It all ring like a telephone. Year that's basically the old.

Speaker 10 (53:02):
Okay, So so take us back because, like you said,
we were talking earlier.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I'm a hustler.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I want to make sure I'm saying this right.

Speaker 10 (53:09):
You was quote unquote telling us about the time that
you was locked up and you was getting out from
you know, rehability yourself with the colrect So how was
that transition going through all.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
That and staying focused, Like what was that that that that.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Mind frame at the time, it was difficult.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
You know, the doctor said, I wasn't gonna be able
to rap again, right, you know what I mean, And
I was in a coma for a period of time.
When I came out the comb I had amnesia, so
I couldn't even remember like none of my raps, like
none of my raps, like even like I'm a uh, well, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
A hustler.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Hotel, like they records that I did a thousand times
that I should know it.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
I ain't know none of the words. I can't remember
the words.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I look at the video and it's like, you know,
like when the name on the tip of your tongue
and you know you know it, but you just can't
find it in your head.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
You're like, damn, what the fuck is his name?

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Like that, It's like I know that I should know
it because I see myself in it, but I don't
remember the video. I don't remember doing it. I don't
remember none of the lyrics. So it took time for
me to get my memory back and get healthy enough
to be able to record, and plus they said I
wasn't going to be able to so to get healthy
enough quick enough, get my memory back and start recording

(54:32):
making music, I felt like it was a blessing, you
know what I'm saying. So that's the type bag I
was in, like, you know, not really in bad or
red mood like I normally be. It's as competitive, more
thankful to God like that I beat that case. They
was trying to get me life. I was not supposed
to be here, And it's cool when you do it

(54:53):
and when you beat it. But you even see situations
now niggas is losing cases and getting wild time could
have been my predicament, you know what I mean. Then
I come home and I get in an accident that
I could have died or forever lost my memory or
not recover the right type of way. But I did
and I started making music again. So that's the bag

(55:13):
I was in, you know what I mean on that project, Bars,
That's what I.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Was going to ask, how did that competitive spear back then?
But you just seeing it, man, like you know, but
it was with more gratitude, bro, because you saw it twice,
like you know what I'm saying. Two times it could
have all been over.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
And even though I'm a hustler. You was talking about
the ring tone and it was a big record, I
was locked up, like you know what I mean, like
two three weeks before that album drop. So when there
was crunch time, like it was time for me to
go on the main promo tour, like to promote this
big record that I got out. I'm locked up, so
I can't do it, can't promote it, right, you know

(55:50):
what I mean? And I told you just like before
real social media, so it's not like it's just spreading
around on the Internet and niggas could still post on
your page and keep you alive. It's like I couldn't
really do promo because I was booked. So to go
through that, come home and then start working on music again,

(56:10):
then getting an accident lose your memory, It's like, damn,
I went through a lot, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
So how long would that process?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
I was in a coma for like nine ten days.
Then I had amnesia for months, you know what I'm saying.
But it's like it started coming back, you know, more
and more, Like every day I would wake up and
start connecting stuff and remembering a little more and more

(56:41):
years come back, like you know what I mean, Like
I ain't forgetting my whole life. I forgot like fifteen toil,
like eighteen years of my life, but anybody that I knew,
but for that like my mom my name, like stuff.
I knew all of that I'm saying, But if it

(57:02):
was somebody that I just recently met, even if it
was like somebody I was close to, like Swiss like I,
it's like you're looking at him like you kind of
like thinking like they I've seen me before something, but
you can't like remember like where you're knowing from like that, right,

(57:22):
and I've seen that shit happen on movies and TV
shows and ship like that, like right, but I ain't understand,
like how can you still know how to walk, talk.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Know how to do shit but just forget like that.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I ain't get it. So that shit happened to me
shit real.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Like that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Everybody not the lead you though, was anybody like no,
you bullshit?

Speaker 3 (57:47):
You know me? You ain't right in that niggas like that.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Everybody understood it.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Not that I recall, you know what I'm saying, because
I wasn't like dealing with too many people, right, like
you know what I mean, just the people that probably
came to see me at the hospital.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
And I was in a coma at first.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Once I woke about the coma, I ain't feel right,
so I left the hospital you know what I mean.
I wasn't supposed to, but I left and I was
just in the house like helding up, so I ain't
really come in contact with like a bunch of people.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
But my family, for sure, they definitely knew like I was.
I was fucked up, like you know what I'm saying.
So they knew that, you know what I mean. They
seen me in the coma, They seen me fucked up,
and they seen when I woke up not all the
way there, like I don't got it right, like you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
And this was the time that the record is hot.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, for sure, shit popping your family telling you stories
like and you just don't remember. They just telling you
this or just not used to you not having your memory,
so they might say something or ask something and you don't.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Really remember it.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
But you know, telling you, telling you stories, making you
feel comfortable, showing you videos and pictures and stuff, and
it's just like you just start thinking thinking, then you
go to sleep, wake up.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
It's like closer.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
And after some months I got most of my memory
back right, like only thing to this day, I still
don't remember, like I remember getting in the car, like
that day when the accident happened. Now I remember that
like what I did before that and getting in the car,
but like once the accident happened, I don't remember all

(59:36):
of that. Only thing I remember is when I woke
about the coma. But like the rest of my life
came back, even the raps, all of the reasons like
why I wrote the raps, like the science, like the
stuff I was like studying and doing, Like all that

(59:56):
shit came back.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
That was a blessing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
When you step came out of that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
The song drinking My two Steps came out of that. Yeah,
that's why I made that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yeah, Because I was still with Jay Records. They wanted
like a party song, like to celebrate the fact that
you know what I mean, and you know that was
the vibe, like a tempo type party shit, and I
just came with like I'm a hustler, Bee Boy stands
some records that was like you know what I mean.
So they wanted something like that, but it's like I

(01:00:33):
was more on like you know what I mean, like
the record that I had on that project, like I'm
an innocent man, man understand, Like that record I had,
I was more on that bag, like, no, that's not
really party, that's just like a that's like pain. It's
like a heartfelt song, is like some deep ship. So
I was more in that bag, wanted to shoot ship

(01:00:55):
like that, but I'm signed to a label, so I
don't got the final say so, so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
They had to come together. That's why I did Drinking
two Step.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
But did it like that, like talking about the case,
talking about the accident, like we celebrating the fact that
I'm home. It's soon so on and soon, and I'm home,
get the patron and tell him that. It's so like
a celebration time that I'm back. And they said I
wasn't gonna be able to rap again, but now I'm
shooting the video or you hearing my new record that

(01:01:23):
I wrote after they said that, So it's like celebration time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
So that's why I did it.

Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
The song got a whole new meaning then when I
go listen to them, like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
What didn't have to go through that ship, back to
back man.

Speaker 10 (01:01:41):
Back to pa ain't shit and then still drive to
like he said, he remember his.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Drive, You remember why he wrote it, He remember why.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
He wanted to rap like that one number.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
God just putting it right back into you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
That's what I was about to ask you now, like
what made you actually.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Go fucking with the U r L and do some
battle rap and ship like that? What made you want
to go fuck with his hands on like that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I felt like that form of battle rap I started,
you know what I mean, Like Me and Freeway battle
that came out years and years ago, even before that YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, so it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Was no way for people to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Like after that shit got established, they put it on
their years later, but that time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Was before the tape came out. It was like just
a rumor. Let nobody know if that shit was really.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Crazy. Then the audio mixtape.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
DJ got the audio, took it from the VHS tape
and made the audio and put it out on the mixtape.
So people were just listening to it Ryan playing it,
but they couldn't see it. And I mean you too,
but I felt like that's the first time nigga seen
niggas like, you know, really hungry and being competitive face
to face, going hard at each other.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
With no beat like that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
And that's what like paved the way for these leagues
and this type of energy that started so I always
felt as though I was a part of it. I
was going to events before I started getting back in
battle rap. It was always like dealing with league owners
and you know what I mean, fucking with battle rappers.
I was always like feeling like I was like a
part of the culture.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
I just was on some other shit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Told niggas that they gotta get me two hundred and
fifty thousand for me to come back and battle. I
told them niggas that twenty years ago, like when niggas
wasn't even getting a dollar like so it just seemed impossible.
How the fucking going like that? Shit don't even make sense,
But I just felt like it was. It was possible,
and I stood on it like I got offers. They

(01:03:51):
used to blog and talk about cast got off for
thirty thousand, he ain't getting at the show right now,
Why won't he take it? And then he got off
of forty thousand. He should take it and come back,
But they didn't understand that. I said, I'm not coming
back till I get this number. So the first people
to offer me that number was like the Kink of
the Dot team, King of the dot ALKI David. They

(01:04:12):
got with him and he put together an event and
those was the first person to give me the money
that I was asking for. Once I did that, and
the views went up with the dog. Once the views
went up and people seeing that it was a success,
that's when you are real reached out, you know what
I mean, and make it happen for it made Yeah.

(01:04:37):
And the last battle I did with Himan that was
with ar p R Behave. So that's real great entertainment.
So I mean, I ain't really connected to the league.
Fuck with all the leagues battle rap energy periers. So
I bounce around and make it makes sense?

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
What have it? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Whoever the bag?

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
Sure it's hard though, man, that you can actually, you know,
be in the not just a rapper, be in the
entertainment game, right, and it's standing around for so long,
like what do you feel like?

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
That's what matter rep did made me hungry again, Yeah,
because learning the business how shisty niggas is in the business,
going through ups and downs, seeing twists and turns, seeing
people that tell you that they your brother and they
love you and they'll do whatever for you. But when
you go down through down times, they not even picking
up the phone no more like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Then you see you go through shit where you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Back up again and then they all again and then
it's like you see the ship that happen, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
You see niggas act like they're best of friends. Then
like right after they.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Separate, the talking crazy about each other like that bitch
ass nigga. But they just like when you see how
this business is, it's like hard to keep the love
after time, you know what I mean, Especially when you're
getting robbed. You feel like you're not getting the right
percentage for what you're doing or the work you put.
A lot of people that's been in it as long
as me a lose drive because of those reasons. But

(01:06:08):
that's not why I do it for the business, you
know what I mean. I feel like whether I do
that for business or not, I'm a still rap because
I said I wanted to start doing this since I
was a kid, to be the best.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
So I'm stealing that bag.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Everything I do it for is that for that reason,
and everything else comes second. Like when I first got
my first deal, I wasn't worrying about the business or
recording no music or nothing like that. I just knew
if I had the best rhyms, I was gonna get
a deal. And now that I'm reinventing myself saying bars

(01:06:42):
is back, I'm taking that same approaching podcasts, running around
doing different platforms, back rapping and making music.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
And just showing people that I could do it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
And once they see it, you get the right response
because out of sight, out of mind, you just got
to put yourself in people face so they can be
aware of what you're doing right, and you're gonna get
the response you're looking for us. So that's the type
bag man right now.

Speaker 10 (01:07:06):
Definitely that you know you, I want to say you
wanted to underrated emotion. You feel me that I would
like to say, because even in the South, well adapt
into your music asap.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
You feel me.

Speaker 10 (01:07:21):
And when you came out, I was younger, I was like, yeah,
rapping like up top.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
It's like, yeah, we knew you from up top.

Speaker 10 (01:07:29):
But it was like you said, y'all have like your
own country swing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
You had your own swing to.

Speaker 10 (01:07:33):
It, like you weren't rapping like nobody from New York
up top. Yeah, So when you came out, it just
it just struck with us, and I've been fucking with
me since day one.

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):
Appreciate it even if I were three.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Three Man, what you're looking like? Man? Where you want
to take it to next?

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
But you know, the culture just turned fifty, So I'm
in the same bag with you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
With legends that you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
What I mean. I've been around like Grandmaster Cast and
all them niggas was doing what they was doing. But
I was a baby too, like a lot of them.
Niggas was doing shit before I was born, Like you
know what I mean. But once you fall in love
with this shit, you do your research, you backtracking, and
shit that's like legendary never died, right, look back on

(01:08:28):
that shit whenever you're ready. This shit still won't be
effective to this day. I mean they Daddy Kane and
rock Ken and g rapping, all of them niggas that
I looked up to that inspired me to want to
do this shit. Niggas was doing that shit when I
was a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Even my mom and my dad both rapped before I
was born, So this shit was around before I even
came into the world.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Hold on your parts, well, both of them together are
just like separate. And then they.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Both like, you know, as a group.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Nah, I think I think my dad was like really
rapping and going hard. But because he was like rapping
and going so hard, and my mom was a fan
of hip hop, she just started playing together her own
bars machine like go. It's hard to take it as
serious and when to be famous like him, like he
was the main one.

Speaker 7 (01:09:23):
That's like really, so, how would you say your style
of rapping?

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
Cauld you you got the metaphors, the punch line.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
How would you say, what's your style of rap?

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Bars? Freakly ball. That's my style. That's the main thing
I focus on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Like I've been doing this so long, I could do anything,
like I could rap to any be permittent, Like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Be difficult for certain rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
They might be dope on one be permittent, but they
can't do them all. Like I could rap on any,
be permittent on any topic about anything. You know what
I'm saying. But what I feel is though is most
important is when I do ramp about anything, it gotta
have some type of bars in it. It gotta have
some figurative language, something creative in it. Something I'm saying

(01:10:15):
that everybody in the room don't feel like they could
have thought.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
Of that's my main thing, you know what I'm saying,
That's what I give a fuck. The most about music
came later.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
I told you, I ain't had no beats, no demo tape,
I ain't get a deal with no demo. I ain't
had no music yet, you know what I'm saying. So
I wasn't connected to no producer. I wasn't connected to
no music. I wasn't trying to make that yet. It's
just about my bars, like it's about me, So that's
most important.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
I'm gonna always put that first.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Everything else that I learned is just cessories to help me,
I mean, get to my final destination. Yeah, but like say,
for instance, something and with technology or electric is out
and niggas can't even pull up no more beats or producers,
all the producers in the world, just like I ain't

(01:11:08):
making beats no more and there's no more hot beats.
That means as a rapper, you just like, well, I
can't rap no more because it ain't no more hot beats,
or you just gonna keep.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
Rapping off the same instrumental from back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
That's already y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
You're just gonna keep re making songs in them same
beats or what who.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I don't give a fuck even if niggas stopped making beats.
That's why I start producing, because I can make.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
My own beats.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I could just rap, bro, I don't need no beats.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Ask you who are some of the artists that you
were around that you feel like makes you better as.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
An artist.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
That I was around Personally, all of the legends that
I ran into is making me better even before I
met him, you know what I'm saying. But when I
met him and I got a chance to be around him,
like early in my career, I was in the studio
with the goal l L like. You know what I'm saying,

(01:12:04):
I'm like a baby. I don't even got no album out,
no single out yet. I just like fucking the mixtapees up.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
I'm going crazy, but I ain't even really had established yet.
He is all ready to go, you know what I mean.
And I'm in the studio vibing with him. You know
what I mean, in the way that that shit made
me feel after looking up to this nigga, before I
even thought I wanted to be a rapper and being
in the studio with that nigga, he really fucking with

(01:12:32):
you and the shit that I'm saying, taking he and
vice versa, like you know what I'm saying, not looking
at me like I'm something Like he's looking.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Down on me, like he respect me for bars. So
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
I've been in the studio and their records with Knas,
another nigga that I looked up to before I even
got on, Like you know what I'm saying, and these
niggas respect me, like you know what I'm saying. We
in there smoking, we vibing, we coming up with shit,
and the records is out.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
It's not like it's like something niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Niggas could pull it up right now, Cassidy feature NAS
and then go Na's feature and cast because I'm on
his records too, Like we done worked on shit. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Work with the niggas that I looked up to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Been in the studio with jay Z when I battled Freeway,
you know what I mean, he cleared that for me
to use his vocals on. I'm a hustler, you know
what I mean, the nigga I looked up to doing that.
I mean I've been in DMX house, did the BT
site for with him. That's like a legend. Like you
know what I'm saying, niggas I looked up to niggas
like Fat Joe, Noriega, niggas that was already selling records

(01:13:39):
and doing their thing, was calling me to the studio
to jump on records. Wy Cleff when I first got
down putting me on records with Patty label with wy Cleff,
it's like big records. The first video that I had
out before my single was Big Business and it was
me Ryan, Nosley Puff, Daddy suit Dog, Jada, Kid Baby

(01:14:01):
and Me and Snoop Swiss Beats produced it. So it's
like a be produced by Swiss with Snoop Baby, Jaded,
Kissy Puff, all of these big name people on the
record and then me. But I ain't have nothing, no
no records, I ain't had no plaques, I ain't doing
nothing yet. So to be and them type of positions

(01:14:26):
and you know what I'm saying, and niggas respect you
and then you execute. That's what motivating me. And like
you even said the ball with the dog House, so
like out of all of the people that was on
that song, niggas still remember my shit. It's not like
I was on a chorus that was a verse, but
niggas remember.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
It like it was a hook. I got a large house, a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Dog, and that was the first single, even before Hotel,
right right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
So it's dope.

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
That's shoot amazing story man, so amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
You gotta do audio, that'll be dope.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
That's got damn movie You're going around. God damn Phillies battling.
That's a fucking movie that niggas went and everybody got
damn yeah and created.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
A real organic buzz man.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
Before we had the buzz off the radio, they didn't
know its face, y'all gonna know me real life, Yes, sir,
Nigga love to take over the city, story especially gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Do it battle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Yeah, I had a battle set up with the U
r L.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
We were supposed to be me and Free. We were
supposed to battle again.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Word, let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
That's platinum.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
I don't think it's gonna go down. Okay, it's been
a long period of time. We was been supposed to
do it, you know what I mean something on the
business side with them. I mean I've been ready. Let
niggas say my rounds and all that rap niggas. I
was like, in the best shape of my life. I'm
ready to go crazy. They couldn't execute, They couldn't pay

(01:16:07):
me the rest of the money, So we don't have
no battle without the rest of the money.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
No, if you they walking here and bring the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Of the money, put it on the team, or showed
me the cash up, or show me some ship like
the money, that we could do the Battle of the
night tomorrow. Like the time passed, so I'm gonna always
race them off. I always write to that last minute.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
Then we never really got your reaction to the actual
footage of the first battle coming out, man and people
you know that ship did crazy numbers online. What was
your reaction to it when it got out and the
people finally sawd and people coming up, You're like, yo,
why you do them like that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Like when it first came When when it came out online,
I was like years years after it was already out,
you know what I mean. Even people in my city
had the VHS tape, So people been watching it and
seeing it for years and talking about it. And a
lot of industry niggas that I had relationships where it
was able to see it. So Nigga's been talking about it,

(01:17:18):
so it wasn't like, you know what I mean, I
was like going crazy when it got to the internet
because I was already old.

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
Yeah, yeah, it was kind of old somebody just posting this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
But I was happy about the technology, like letting a
bunch of people be able to see ship like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Because it reinvented you reinvent certain situations.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
Sure, it's just that. Look, that's one of the hip
hop moments.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
If it's footage from like you said, fifty years right,
that's a motherfucking moment, you know what I mean, Like,
that's a motherfucker like motherfuckers talked about that like that. Yeah, man,
that whole little mixtape error like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Birth And that's the first time jay Z got the
head man, Like I looked up to that. Man, I'm
listening to this nigga music all the time, and that
Freeway battle was the first time he got the hand me, Like,
you know what I mean, Swiss already know how I
get busy. I'm already connected to him. He already repping
telling jay Z that I'm the best. Jay Z don't

(01:18:19):
believe it, So this is my first time I could
let him hand it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
They heard it, but they got to see you. So
it's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Like I mean, they get around the goats, the niggas
that inspired me that I took bits and pieces from him,
put it in my part to make my own stoke.
All of them dudes that respect you. I've been around them,
hung with him, like you know what I mean, and
they all had good shit to say about me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
So that's dope.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
And ship, my.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Boy, you the motherfucking gizo, no.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Advice.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
You give it to the upper comings man, you know,
like you said you had, you you well known, not
just in the music industry, but especially in the Philly
area where the rap. Every week, it's like every week
somebody out of feeling going viral for like going somewhere
and staying crazy ass freestyle. And it seemed like damn
that everybody in Pheling can rap good.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
In the motherfucker. It seems like.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
It's like it's so many niggas just dropping ship out
of there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Every week.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
You see some ship on the boot leg cab or
nigga popped up at one of the radio stations and
went crazy on the on the freestyle. So I count
advice are you giving these guys to you know what
type of shit to avoid and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
The best advice I could give you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Just believe in yourself, wanting anybody else, Stay dedicated and
work hard. It ain't over till it's over. Always keep
it moving. Set your own destination, keep going towards it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Right right, you're a hustler.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
A hustler, I don't worry about how long the destination
is and start to think about how long it's gonna
take to get there. The best thing to do is
just take the first step and then just start stepping
towards it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
You step.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Yeah, it's the best advice. Real stuff, really, I mean
movies and that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
I can't wait, man, looking forward to it. So anybody
watching got some movie scenes open telling.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Me audition.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
And I get right now, Man, don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
I like doing movies, though you do, and I ain't
telling myself. I wanted to be an actor in the
fourth grade, so I don't care as much about the science.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
It's more fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
But I got advantages because I do rap, so memorizing
scripts and lines and then flipping it around. Add my
own ship or rewriting the scene to make it doper
as easy for me to do because that's all I
do all the time, is right, right, So I definitely
wanted to do more ship.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Yeah, man, man, what's your social media so they can
link up with you and hit you and let you
know they with the episode and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Cassidy underscore Larseny Man, Cassidy underscore Larseny. We get lid
at Gmail for business s h R T O T
T y Gmail.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
We need the name of that new project bar.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
When is it you gotta day about to be?

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Yeah, that's why, that's why you put the date out there, because.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Tomorrow let's go. If you need some bars, no cap
got bars, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
No cap, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Brim who can look? Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
I know that your first same stopping through here, y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
Don't let it be the last, you know, exacta come
back because we gotta promoat it, Noah for sure real
then you gotta kick one off with Bendom.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
I'm definitely gonna come back as y'all niggas put niggas
in a good move man having a good times so serious,
not like y'all got our tear your movie it was
just having fun man with y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Man, I'll be back, yeah, because we ain't journalists.

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
We just committed, Robert, but you gotta come in. You
got vie with the band to do that. Yeah, for sure,
give about two songs.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
We have too much, yeah, depending yeah, Hooperto, Yeahhobert, Yeah, yeah,
you gotta do your part too. I'm gonna do that,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yeah, that's that's Hoopert hook.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
That what I'm talking about. Yeah, I knew I said
it for a reason.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Okay, ship Man, we're just gonna keep.

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
Having to get old and stop through here and fuck
with us over here on the eighty five seven show
bro none other than casting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
It we are.

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
I'st just let's take a photograph for the motherfucking hard.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Make ship my nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
No hack, no hack,

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