Starlito in the Trap | The 85 South Show

Nashville rapper Starlito is in the Trap talking about the business side of the music industry and the making of the Step Brothers mixtape with Don Trip.

Starlito also talked about jumping out in traffic to sell CDs to people and signing to Cash Money Records with Lil Wayne.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Any time to get serious. Man, Let's go to work.
Let's go to work. Bro. We can sit here and
listen to good music made by this man all day, sneaky,
don't make bad music. Bro, It's time to go to work. Bro.
I told him to make sure you put together some
pemper because I knew you was coming up here. You
feel me another type of ship you like? So I

(00:31):
notice your first time in the trap, but if that's
not be your last. Been my partner. One of the
really sniggers in the game. Jack represents Nashville very well,
very unique individual man, independent, hustle, have been in the
rap game, putting it down for a minute, build a hardcore,

(00:53):
strong fan base that fun with this and neking a
long way, Bro, don't even do no ship like this
I had. I had to put this ship together about
three years. Finally made it. Finally made it, Bro. He
coming outside to talk ship just because he fun with
me like that special special occasion. Man. So I gotta

(01:13):
make sure we cover enough ground journalistically because this ship
ain't gonna be happening like that one of them ship
a handful, he said it ain't remember the last time
he did an interview I've been putting it down in
the Red Game for a minute. Man, got one of
the hardest catalog in the game, my Nigger star leader.

(01:48):
First of all, welcome to the trap. So appreciate your
appreciate you now, how the hell you've been. But like, man,
let's living. That's what's up? Man, what's been going on?
Father foremost you know my daily I'm I like the thing.

(02:10):
I'm probably one of the most normal rappers after Like,
I kind of take pride in that. Now. What is normal, Well,
I'm saying just on a life level, just kind of
outgrowing some of the the norms, the standards we like

(02:30):
build up within the culture of it, you know, try
to just blend in. And I enjoyed doing regular ship
growing up so fast as growing up in this ship.
Like I said, I've been been at it for a while,
so kind of enjoyed being at a different place. Yeah.
When did you first started working with the music, uh

(02:55):
love with? Twenty years ago I put on my first project. Yeah.
Well yeah, we salute that ship, man. That's why we
we named that tour to get a legend, because we
want to give a salute to everybody that we fun
with all the people that came for us in this
left being in the entertainment industry. Man. That's that's a mouse,

(03:16):
don't man, especially when they say they don't give you
but fifteen minutes. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I put on
my first project two three, So it was nineteen years ago.
But yeah, yeah bad it since high school really but
but out my first project, like my sophomore in college,

(03:37):
it was pretty much out of the Six months later,
I was dropping out of college and getting record Dude,
the first record then fresh out of college man that
she hit like, uh, because the line it was like
college in itself. It was like a line of cart
some uh some I'm a line from because it was fun.

(04:00):
It was fun as Yeah. So what did your parents
say when you like, Hey, you know, mom, I know
I told you I was gonna go to you know,
finish the school thing off and whatnot. But yeah, I'm
gonna be around. Uh. My folks was pretty supportive because
it was, you know, it was a chasing the dream.

(04:21):
I only didn't take you to convince themthing not saying
at that moment when they know that you was good,
they're wrapping uh. I mean around that time, it was
like I was making a name for myself. I was
like the guy round the way with the music between
the neighborhood and between the school. So you know how
it is. I mean, when we're building a bus, like

(04:44):
people coming to them my music that was like physical
CdSe mix tapes, you know, so people they adn't know
was that tuned my music. So it wasn't like a secret.
By the time I was dropping out of school, ain't
like a lot of convincing because I mean, more times
or now, you go to school to get a job.
You go to school to try to you know, figure

(05:06):
out what you're gonna do with your life, and and
on creating opportunities on the back end of it. So
my opportunities like right in front of my face. I'm like,
I'm gonna keep paying money out of them, out of
my pocket to go to school. I'm gonna get some money,
you know. You know a lot of times when people
parents be cool with them doing music or anything they

(05:28):
got something to do with the arts, it's because they
like come from a musical family or you know, entertainment
type family, or you first generation entertainer, or yeah, it
wasn't it or none of that. I don't have a
like super musical like background or lineage. And then that

(05:48):
I was I was just want to wrap you know.
It was it was sports. Was basketball one night and
realize that wasn't take me too far. So next thing
I was most interested in it was was the rapping,
like battle rap culture that was. There was a time
when you know, people were wrapped well you know, ciphers

(06:11):
outside wrapping the parking lot of the school and the
student union centers wherever a crowd of people are, you know,
used to be shopping on niggas, you know, battle rap. Yeah,
I mean it wasn't just like battle rapping like I'm
the best rapper in the world, the coldest, oldest, moldest

(06:39):
you see blue cheeks that type. No, it wasn't that.
Damned Then I was punchlines and all that thing it was,
you know, but I mean that's I'm a a knife
for myself doing that, you know, along with trying to
figure out to get in the studio. Don't make a song. Actually,

(07:02):
you know, I guess that's that's still performing art, performance art.
I guess just being able to around captive at a
group of people. Then you put pain the pad and
you know craft songs. I think I'm so far moved
from that because now it's like really into the song structure,

(07:23):
song right and making something is that you can feel.
You know, man, this it is still surprised you that
half of your fans probably don't even know that you
changed your name and start. Yeah, it's it's interesting. I
listened to some some all the music was just he

(07:45):
was talking about a Super Bowl song a minute ago,
and when I went by a start and as it
is kind of a trip because a lot of people
don't know that, you know, if you got hire to
my music in the last ten years, so the professionally
going by star it though since I got out of
that first do yeah, and we changed our name around

(08:08):
the same time. You don't want to know you'll never
look at that nigga this same just just call him Jack.
It was he made his name, he made his mark,

(08:29):
though it's still a lot of people that only know
him as his own name. A lot of people didn't
accept Jack Thriller. The funny thing about that ship too,
is the Niggers didn't want to call me that ship
back in the day, but they matter I'm Jack. They
would go out of their way they call me the
old ship. Just you know what I'm saying that as

(08:51):
a as a reminder. It's funny now I knew then
when he was such and such. It's some time stamp
for sure. I mean, that's that's all. Some people agree
me and let me know aline they've been writing with
the sign what made you change your name? That? Why?
Why the why? The face live um? In part it

(09:12):
was like, like I said, I had the record deal
and the kind of I feel like it ran this course.
It was more or less stagnant, and so it was
rebranding myself and kind of make sure way to get
out of the deal, if you will. I was just like, okay,
well little writes to my recordings under this name belong

(09:35):
to somebody else. I'm just gonna put out music under
a different name. Almost. I mean, that was me trying
to guess to be a wise guy about it, and
then it just stuck. It was kind of catchy. It was,
you know, I was already like kind of firm on myself.
Is that within the music or I had a project
cost all it those way kind of playing out the
quality those ways. The movie s hard too, if you

(09:55):
ain't never heard it, and I know it's a lot
of people watching from different pockets of the world fun
with that one. Yeah, So that that project was like
it was working for me and I just kind of
ran with it from that from like a concept project
to like got a ring to it. Because my my

(10:15):
original name that I like signed was two in long
It was all Star cast, but it was prints because
it was like there was already a DJ I think
name all Star, so we couldn't actually register that name.
I was like, I don't want this long Day's name,
and it was kind of like I ain't gonna call
myself to print some my city forever, like you know

(10:38):
it nineteen That was I guess the thing it was
cool at the time was like wow, I was just
I don't know who was the king of the city. Oh,
I mean, I think it was just it was kind
of like uh announcing that I'm next up. May have

(10:59):
been several if it was just like I said, I was,
I was a teenager. I was the youngest person putting
out music around my way at that time, like putting
out my own music especialist. So how many times you
have to about yourself out of the contract? Oh I
think not formally that didn't really happen because my first

(11:22):
deal didn't. It didn't generate that much money. It wasn't
you know what I'm saying. It was it was business
like I got an advance and that was money being spent.
But they serviced a few singles, and it kind of
at a point was like just kind of go go
several ways, just cut all loss this kind of thing.
So it wasn't like a bio kind of thing. Once

(11:44):
it ran his course, I just didn't. I didn't continue
to do business with the people I was doing business without.
The time when you chose the name Star Leader, what
was the process of it? And were like, what were
some things that you had before leading up to Star Lead? Top?
Like I said, all start, it was a little sports
thing learned from just being a basketball player and just

(12:09):
want to be on top of my game, if you will.
The star little thing kind of kind from that move
to the time called Its Way, It was one of
my favorite movies because the main character was trying to
get out the game, you know, so he was doing
anything like get out the streets, get out the way,
and it was you know, the right a little and

(12:31):
I felt like that was kind of where I was
in life, you know, like I said, I went to
college and outa them I running from being educated or
but I'm still like from where I'm from. And uh,
I wanted to use wrap as a segway away from
out that bullshit. So I felt like it was a
parallel in the character. And like I said, just kind

(12:53):
of play play on words a playoff that night. And
uh really didn't have like a I probably went by
something else when I was probably fifteen, just first rapping,
but I didn't put out no music under the you
know whatever the names was then and you weren't done.
Trip got together and put that put a whole movement
and played Man, how that ship come together? Uh? I

(13:15):
think me Trip Lincoln like something like that. Uh yo,
guy who was trying to sign Trip. I was doing business.
We all got at the time. And uh it's when
around the time when Don Trip first signed in the scope.
But we first just had a big buzz. It was
like popping on YouTube, three styles going crazy and Uh

(13:36):
got it. Bought him to Nashville with him, just had
him on the road. They passed through and we linked.
You know, I heard the stuff. I thought it was
cold kind to the spot. We knocked out a few
songs and it was just kind of like, yeah, we're
on a song, we should do some more music. And
at the time, I was just watching the movie Step Brothers,
like on loop in the studios, just I was just

(13:58):
a funny as movies ship from put them motherfucking nuts
on the drum set, and I was like, man, we
should do you know, we should run with this. You know,
the camaraderie they had, it was just like grown as
kids overcron like exactly. And I think that was the

(14:18):
first song on the project with Carter Bus. It was
just playing off just just quirking stuff within that movie.
And then share fast forward over the next seven years,
we'll put out like three projects tour you know inty
tours tour nationally offer something just kind of branding out
that Step Brothers if it would, Man, that's something that's

(14:41):
it's like that ship just feels so again, yeah, just
kind of like red type ship. So but it came
from like being willing um to give props, to give
it up. You know a lot of times in the
rat world, man, people like too tough for they are
good or too full of those else probably across the

(15:01):
board before what y'all do. It's probably people the cold
or know y'all cold, but they won't give it up
for y'all Like now they can't then, and I don't
know what that ship about. It happens, and so it
was kind of rare, like crossing paths, likening your code
and the same thing, willing to give it up, and
we just put it together rather than being like, Okay,

(15:21):
I know he's good, and I know I'm good. It's
gonna be competitive. I'm gonna try to shoot on them
and act like I don't see what he got going on.
It was more soult like, but I see you coming up.
I had been in it at that time with six
seven years professionally. Also, I didn't want to see somebody
make the same mistakes I had made beause like whatever
I could add to what he had going on, and

(15:43):
for sure it brought me up to because he was,
I said to YouTube world, he had a different kind
of buzz than I did. So I was able to
kind of like take my underground thing, catch it up
to speed what was going on like on the internet,
and cross your audience at the time when you actually

(16:04):
had to go outside and do flys and promo and
radio and all this ship. Now you're seeing that people
can just literally jump on left upload some ship, whether
they know who these people are and not, and the
ship the sound may go viral and people have to
find out who the person is that said this ship.
So yeah, it's different, man, it's different. I mean it's

(16:25):
a technology. Yeah, time's gonna challenge. It's about stand ahead
of a carbing forward thinking because i mean, every every
couple of years we had a new platform, We've got
a new way of presenting just information. You know, how
would you and how would you introduce yourself to the
new generation like a lot of them watch this show?

(16:49):
Um or do you even care about that? I was
just about to say, Man, it's it's it's crazy. It
sounds like I don't like I find you find Yeah,
I ain't that. I ain't that stuck on myself. As
far as it GOLs, I feel like I've done what
I've done at this point. I'm gonna continue to do
it as it makes sense. I was just like kind
of go out for feeling. So if it finds you

(17:11):
and it moves you like I mean, I'm I'm started,
Oh I made music kind of starts and then it's
because everything I fear about it. Yeah, it's like I
listened to some stuff and I'm like, damn, I I
don't feel like that no more. I ain't in the
head space. But I was right then. It was you know,
it was like a snap snapshot time capsule. Yeah. Do

(17:34):
you ever find yourself trying to like the feeling like, damn,
I wish I could catch that that that same hunger,
or be that guy one more time. Sometimes when I
look at my old ship, I admire him, but I,
like you just said, I don't got it no more.
Or when people ask me, can I do that? Why

(17:55):
don't you do that anymore? Uh? I don't ain't got
I do look at it like damn, it's different. I
feel different about the ship, like, but I'm not necessarily
like chastening and I'm not chanting no light. I once
ahead or otherwise because I just realized that that's what
that was, whatever I was going through, you know, viron

(18:17):
mentally or just it's a time capsule like music I
made and to give a moment, I just I wanted
to be pure. I wanted to reflect something that it's
just like the human experience. So like I sound different
than I did. You know, probably a few you know,
smoked the few or whatever, like things to change your voide,

(18:39):
change you know, your temperament, everything everything, like like you said,
if it's hungry, Like once the point a time I
wanted to be heard so bad. Now I got to
the point where like I ain't really talking unless I
got something to say, like I ain't just check me out.
I'm you know, like now do you still feel like
you underground? For sure? For sure? Yeah? Why isn't that? Um?

(19:07):
Because I feel like my buzz or or my audiences
is like homegrown. I feel like I feel like I
earned my fans, my my audience, I should say, like
one by one almost and like it's non traditional like
I had a song on the radio and twelve years
or something like that. Um, I mean I've had music

(19:29):
videos playing on TV. I use a lot of uh networks,
and I form at my stuff like a mainstream artist
or you know, I place it in the same marketplace.
But my whole thing since I went independent was to
go Againstagram and do it my way and and uh,

(19:51):
if you build it, they come kind of kind of thing.
So it's not like I mean our partner in the
dump business with with companies, but it's nobody really like
empowering what you know, what it is that I do.
No corporate interest. No, not really, not really. I mean,
like I said, I work with people, but it's it's

(20:12):
gonna be on my time and all my times, like
working with people on some music ship. Like you said,
you've been in the game for a minute, who left
on your list the people you want to work with?
Uh it was hard to say. Uh, probably singers and

(20:38):
not not too much on the rapping, Like yeah, like
you know, to work with r and b artists. I
grew up like I was was a Tony Town tone
whatever on the on the ride down about I was
like that music donna sound like this normal? My work
was like somebody in that in that length. You know.

(20:58):
If anything, I just I'd like to work with people.
Don't want to worry with me. That what I'm saying.
I don't know. That's why I work with Jack. I
know that love work with me, man, man, I'm with
all my heart. You man, don't talk to this man,
y'a don't overstand myrself too much. Things that about they're
supposed to two thousand and three when you was all

(21:25):
starcash real friends, what did the dream look like? And
what does it look like now for you? So it
was it was just like being hired, trying to get
out into the worlds, like coming to edge like I was,
I said with eighteen nineteen years old I put on
my first project. Was just just figuring life up. You know.

(21:48):
But is at a certain level of a place that
you saw yourself that you like, if you was the
did you want to be the next uh fifty cent?
Did you want to be the next Tupac dreams? It
is like that how big did you wanted to do it?
Or did you just was it really about being hurt?

(22:09):
On one level, it was about being heard. I think
I could say this is like looking back when I
just take them all journey in. I think once upon
a time I was like afraid of being successful. And
it's like a real thing, like you think you want
a certain levels success or appeal or whatever you get, yeah,

(22:34):
ship like it's it's a lot, it's damning too much
kind of thing. And so someone in my mind, you know,
it was that moment though, uh probably like sign on
cash money even like I can remember being at the
the House that was on Cribs or How I'm Living
or whatever b two MTV shows like It's at the

(22:55):
House and uh in New Orleans the Jacuz in the
middle of the of the room and Ship. I remember
like pulling up the seeing these cards. I was at
a pool party. I think essence fist like somehow four
and I'm like, I'm around all these people that I've
been watching on TV the less like five six years

(23:16):
or people like I really listened almost of that music
exclusively at the time, Like you know, I was from
the South, from the midst, like that was soundtrack to
the hood. I'm like, damn, don't run here amongst these people,
like and it's like you almost ask you something, what
the hell I'm doing here? Like I mean time around
this Nick, I always feel like, man, I don't listen,

(23:38):
I don't belong and Uh. I remember being at a
pool party like probably like you're meeting you're making peers
of people that you you know, held up in a
certain esteem and respected ship was they had to respect it,
like people got the utmost so eventually working with them, yeah,

(24:00):
and they become you like with made shoot you know, comrade,
like traveling and like damn, you know, it seems at
that age like like ship. To that point it was
a dreaming like it was almost like surreal. And then
you don't have no training and practice for the ship,
so you're just coming out. Yeah, And I mean I

(24:22):
think being amongst people that have had that like that
was that level of success, you can kind of almost
find yourself feeling out of place. Like I think if
I had to like view anything is it's not regret
but like a mistake. It's like trying to fit in
instead of trying to stand up, you know what I'm saying,

(24:45):
because like you're amongst at this, like damn, I need
to move like this, so I want to I want
to do what they've already done, when in fact I
was doing some some ship and you know, my own
way or my own line. I look back, I should
have just kept shipping away, approaching things the way that
I was doing it that got me in those rooms,

(25:07):
that got me around those people, versus like, all right,
how can I make something that fits in with that
brand and stuff? And eventually, you know I figured that
out for myself. Slight man, I'm gonna I'm gonna be
the best version of me. I'm there's nobody that could
be me better than me kind of thing, you know,
I think I, Um, I met a lot of progress

(25:30):
once I figured it out for myself and and and
there's nothing to be afraid of the time of success
because I don't I don't measure to against when anybody
else got going on, you know. And that's back to
the underground thing, like yeah, yeah, the ship even even
still though you wanted the motherucker's who made the underground
ship work for them, like you're successful at and like

(25:53):
that ship the hardest fun Like what kind of tips
and tricks anybody would you give to the next generation
who want to fall in who see you do it
and say, shot, I want to do it like la
though he made that ship work. Um, you gotta figure
out what works for you. I mean, I think for sure,
like being innovative, Like I mean, I understand the question,

(26:18):
but like you're doing it, you know what I'm saying
A brand that the child building. It's like have your
own times or your owner standards, and I say you
build it, They're come Like I don't think I have
a like a blueprint for nobody to follow because so
much of this kind with no rules, like so it
was figuring out, like I think this is a good idea.

(26:42):
I'm just just mash with it. I'm gonna go with
it and see if the stick kind of thing. I mean,
you ain't had a deal though in twelve years, right, Uh?
I had like distribution deals distribution did You've been independent
pretty much since then? When at what point did you say,
you know, I'm gonna do this myself fucking deal. I

(27:03):
don't need I'm not signing with nobody else. I think
I got this now. Oh, I know what they were
doing over there, man, just figuring out. Like I said,
I started to understand the like the the power to
reach other of the Internet and just like direct the consumer.
Like that's where it was going. Like out we used

(27:25):
to go to record store every Friday and get the
abams to come out on Tuesdays, but we had record
stores that would sell them music early on Fridays. We
just go to the regular store and like physically pick
up CDs. Eventually I started getting my music from download
links and on your phone, right, And I'm like, well,
I mean I can I don't go to press up

(27:45):
c d s no more. I'm cutting out a lot
of overhead, you know, so like I'm just a regular
label with not in general it's artists are doing now
more so. But they wouldn't let you drop a project
every month. We had a studio with the Spot, so
I could record music as fast as I could come
up with it, as long as it's some beats or whatever.
And I was just like, man, I'm just gonna just

(28:08):
keep trying and keep shipping away and just you know,
I think I'm gonna use what's right in front of them.
It was my resources. Um, I'm like, I don't really
because at the point, it wasn't even about selling them music,
and it was just about being heard. Like we used
to press upo the CDs to jump out and traffic
and hand them out and get my what I mean,
we saw CDs locally, but a lot of those promo

(28:32):
you were saying, you gotta promo disc Yeah, It's like
I know for a fact, I had them ships all
way up until about uh until my first my Cali
caught on fire. I can't remember that year, but I know,
and I've moved to Atlanta. I brought all that ship
up him. I wanted to ask you this. You said,

(28:54):
Trip introduced you to a whole new audience, the digital audience,
the YouTube audience. When did you start seeing the impact
and effects of that. Uh, immediately, immediately, like Bro had
a viral moment almost like started his career. You know. Yeah,

(29:15):
And I mean he did a bunch of free styles
kind of the same format. It was just like him
the most basic handheld camera and a booth recording itself,
rapping on very basic set up, but it's like no frills.
This was wrapping as pure as for him and he
was having like millions of views out there at the time.
I probably hadn't shot three videos five like actual music videos.

(29:40):
I might be had a couple, like they had some
kind of production quality to it because being on the
label and at the time, like music videos just a
cost like five figures on the lower end. So if
you if you gotta deal, it's gonna chew your budget
up to to shoot one video. At that time, it
was like you got crewis and set ups they had.

(30:03):
It was like exactly it was. It was huge a
set up for it was huge. As technology went to
handheels and you know a lot of I don't even say,
corners get cut. It's just the standard of how you
do stuff is different. Like I said, Bro had the
most basic set up you could possibly have, and it
was drawing people in. So it was like, damn, I

(30:25):
don't even that's not where my appeal comes from. But like,
we went from doing that music and we went and
shot a bunch of music videos. We shot like five
videos for the first project and got like tens of
millions of views. And that was new to me. You know,
I didn't think I may have one video that had
a million views at the time and versus everything was

(30:50):
putting out just like out of here. You know, how
much was the videos that you was shooting? How much
that they cost? Not five figures? Right? I went in
right now Now at the time, I can't say exactly.
I'm not sure, but um, it wasn't like damn they're
free like it is now, especially if you're back camera

(31:11):
you had. I was gonna say we bought camera. That
was because he was done trump with shooting and ended
in his videos, right, the original stuff when he was
in a booth. Yeah, I think he was. I'm pretty
sure he was putting that together. So yeah, all the
way across. But by the time we was doing videos
for that project, we were working with videographers and working

(31:31):
with people like buying some of those cameras, buying the
cannon cameras, the handhelds, and we shot a couple of
them on like like red cameras and you know, this
was two thousand eleven, So that was that was some
of the they changed the game with the videos. Some
of those cameras and set ups were like nice and elaborate,

(31:53):
but like I said, it wasn't it didn't cause it
what it caused the deck Probably people were shooting like
on sevent d s. Yeah, I think I bought a
couple of seventies during that time. Think about it. You
get you buy one and then you walk around and
get the video they go viral. Yeah, you get them
paid for it, and now it's worth it is worth it.

(32:13):
You're creating a job for somebody around, because what was
binding stuff? Just to give people around something to do.
Figure I how to work this camp? Exactly? Are you
gonna be around anyway? Were sitting there here while I'm recording, Like,
let's you know, you got a job. Yeah, Jack No.
Jack used to direct a few videos and ship. Oh yeah,

(32:36):
I did. My president is black Jeezy. You have assistant
directed on that. A couple of them brought up to
Jesus Man, you had you and Jesus had a hit
when he was first really getting successful in the game. Man.
You got to you got to catch that way with
him too, Man, what was that moment? Like, yeah, that

(32:57):
was part of that. Everything happened in fast. It was
the Greg Goose uh Greg Goose song and ended up
on a little bit of everybody's mixtapes and otherwise it
was cool. It was a different line in there was
I mean, I'm from Nashville just comeing to the line
of to kick it and parties I always you know,

(33:18):
a part of city and just a different paste and
back on. So that was cool to be a part
of that. That hallway. It was kind of a tail
in or the crunk era thing. And then then trapped
music and street music was going and it kind of
went somewhere. So because that was on Trappic that it

(33:41):
was so I mean, it's it's cool to um have
my journey like overlap with with a lot of other people's.
Yeah that you know, done something some big things and
just even though It's just a small part of that
was the latest is wars like this. This is cool.

(34:01):
It's a cool thing to have to worked with the
biggest artists in certain moments of hip hop over the
course of like fifteen years or so. Yeah, man, I
see you and spend of putting together a nice movement.
Now you don't even know that people have been asking
for that for a long time. I know you get
on social media every so often and you see you

(34:22):
get probably fifteen mensing man going they pass up every
time they sent it straight damn me. Like later, come
moments what you and sped of cooking up? Man? Uh?
We do to make someone music? Ween, we're touring. We're
done quite a few showers together this year, and hopefully
we might getting a studio tomorrow, a concert die in

(34:47):
the line of tomorrows just working. I mean we go
back oh five oh six. Here's that's what I'm saying,
to come up together and want time. We was on
cash money at the same time. We used to We
used to have like photo shoots and shift for like

(35:08):
we had something for a couple of shoots for like
magazines and doing press and things like that together, way
way way back, in the day. What's your fondest memory
of being on cash Money? Oh, one of them ones
you never forget and a memory you still got that chain?

(35:31):
Hell no, I ain't saying like that. Who knows what
it is. It's lost on the sauce somewhere. It's like that, man.
I think I probably left on somebody addresser or something
like just living fast. I was. I was stuken at
the time. When once it was gone, it was gone.
I heard, Yeah, I heard plenty of are you thinking

(35:51):
of that? I just wanted to tell you, man, it's
like you always rapped about independence and you know what
I'm saying, the business part of it too, man, And
we look there. It's certain artists that I always pushed
that type of ship with the music gonna be good,
and they're still gonna be saying some good ship. So
I wanted to let you know that that's why I
funk with it, because that's what getting me the type

(36:12):
of motivation to do ship like this. Man. There's people
like pushing for for like Nigga's to own their own
ship and have their own ship. And my father's memory
the cash Money, I was just trying to make sure
to answer that question was probably uh, working alongside of
being able to like witness Little Wine and uh in

(36:37):
his element of you know, him becoming a super super
superstar because I grew up on his music and so
it's a huge fan already working with him, you know,
have collaborating being ficial on the album and went platinum.
But like seeing him through the I was like, it
was that was an experience I was own and death

(37:00):
the soak up some things like working ethic wise, and
also just like I said, witnessing it because it was
like it went from in my generation or the era
that I came up in. It was at least from
my media appears. It was kind of like our favorite
rapper because it was close to our age or whatever.

(37:23):
And to see him kind of become everybody's favorite rapper
more or less. And I used to listen to his
first album, Driving the High School. Yeah, that's it great,
and uh, just to be like amongst it, like whenever
you had that run of seventy eighty songs, you know,
features and whatever it was, it was some crazy stats.

(37:44):
But like I was around, you know what I'm saying.
I was around during that time. It was like, damn
you know, there's some of that I took with me
and apply to my own way, not in a suicier
now like you were recording process in the daytime or
the nighttime. Man, whenever, whenever I get the arths like uh,

(38:06):
that's kind of always has been. I try to keep
a set up wherever I live, so if I roll
over the bed, I can go press the buttons and
if I just get ideal on them, drop four lines
down and just put this down so I don't forget it.
But I mean sometimes I like to get outside of
the crib and go to you know, nicer studios, bigger studios,

(38:29):
and feel like a rapper if you will, or whatever.
But itsn't it ain't really a daytime a nighttime thing.
You need some girls in the studio not that's not
necessarily I mean, that's you know, it depends on what
the what the vibe is, what kind of music making.

(38:50):
I for sure having people around you know it's inspiring
or you know, just even just kicking ship. This was
the studios. That is something that we're saying might end
up on the track or you know, make for a
concept or and sometimes the women, of course it's give
you something the playoffs and the energy to be different.

(39:13):
We gotta make sure we asked the questions because we'll
be doing a terrible job of asking the fans question
and ship. So we want to ask questions that the
fans are black man, why are you asking? So, like,
I gotta ask you this. As a creative person, there's
a talented person. How do you abhord to get over
writer's block or creative block? Um, I don't saying I

(39:34):
never did ship for y'all, trying not to focus on
it as far as a block, like because I don't
really even think about it like that, Like I'm either
like own it or I'm not. And I don't really
trip when i'm not because I feel like some of
the best music, the best material I'll come up with,

(39:57):
was like impromptu, just was a feeling. It was just
like I got the idea and I want to just
try it or whatever. So and you never know what
whether come from are gonna be. I've written a lot
of reps like in the car, you know, and I
wasn't intentionally writing it's just maybe because I wasn't sitting still,

(40:19):
wasn't focused on it by myself, and something coming I
got it because a lot of young upcoming rappers gonna
hear you on here and they listening, Actually they hear
what you're saying is you know, one of their need.
So I wanted to ask you what kind of like
recording cheats can you give out to the young upcoming rappers.
You've been up you've been an up and coming rapper,

(40:40):
like some ship that you figured out fucking around and
you're like, Okay, if I do this, it'll it'll improved this.
Any recording secrets that you can give the give the
people out there, I don't know if it's secrets because
everything is everything so automated. Everything is a lot easier

(41:01):
to navigate. As far as the recording, the biggest thing
for me was getting finding an engineer, somebody that could
um made me sound. I wanted to sound, you know, because,
like I said, as my voice has changed over time,
I got like more or relaxed tone and like being
able to wrap like I talked and it'll still be audible.

(41:24):
It's still be you know, getting the levels together. They
don't a cheek call to that it's in a mix.
But I went back to college and studied the recording industry,
you know, I think like two thousand nine and I
was sitting in class like learning how to read like
e q s and this part of the grab, you know,

(41:47):
looking at it from from almost like a science level
levels and ship and um, I had been at it.
I have been professional for maybe six seven years at
that time, but I wanted to understand it better and
study your crap. To me, that was that was almost
a cheak. It's not like man users plug in or
because it's about you wanted to sign but like your

(42:08):
sound yea. But to me, it was like trying to
just understand it on different levels. Helped me because it
helped me getting I can work. I can work with
almost any engineer because I know I describe what it
is that I'm trying to get out of. You know,
I can kind of speak that language. I know what's
going on on the screen. I think that the same
thing like you said, good, It was like I know

(42:29):
the edy videos and all that. I don't I don't
like to. It was time with something, but I know
how to ask for I know how to get what
I'm trying to get out of, you know, a project over. Yeah,
he was talking about earlier about you know you appreciate
being able to do normal things now and you just

(42:51):
move on the side of a relaxed mode. So you know,
with that being saying, uh saying, you said you talking
about being a normal rapper on what was some of
the heels of the game, that you would do it
out like man like the whole like status him like

(43:15):
like a lot of this ends up feeling like you're
wearing a mask almost, and uh, think about it. When
you're wearing the mask, we got to keep it on
all the time because in this uh, as an entire
or public figure or whatever. It's not like I can
go outside and just today and decide I'm not who

(43:35):
I've been this entire time. You know. So I was
pumping gas before I jumped on the roar or list
abody the card next to him, We don't grown, you know,
And as to me, it's great and nobody nobody knew
me and nobody cared I ain't doing a very good job.
But you know you, uh, you gotta you know what

(43:56):
I'm saying. That's that's like ever present. That's just what
it is. You know what I'm saying. You can't run
from if I just we'll go tomorrow like I ain't
doing music no more. That don't mean I'm not gonna
have that same appeal to somebody that's been tuned in already.
So out sight of the eels or the downside of
it is like when you put yourself out there for

(44:18):
the public, like it ain't necessarily all positive. Everybody ain't
gonna like the kind of thing like being popular or
whatever comes with another side to it, like be it
uh envy or whatever, Like I mean, just like hood
stuff like everybody don't like is everybody's not gonna like

(44:39):
you'll come up, you know what I'm saying. On on
the other side of that, it is like people will
go out their way, you know what I'm saying, because
you're up or because you're coming up just to they
just make theself comfortable on the other side of that,
And so I was like, I mean you gotta just like, yeah, yeah,
you gotta take a bitter with the sweet. It's not
as ifbout would trading and its success is just to

(45:03):
avoid that. But it's just that's the eels over there
come with it, like, and there's just a lot of
levels to you know, been through a lot mm hm,
you know, the game Jack, it's the same all the
way around. They don't. There's a lot of people out
there on would have been some of the eels of

(45:26):
the game for you, Jack, some of your ups and downs. Man,
um uh hose you chose that. I chose them. Yeah,
and I did that, and uh yeah, if if I

(45:48):
could do it over again, I would have been homeless. Yeah,
that would have that. I said, that's the only one
of the only things that and I would have focused
a little bit more. I would not a little bit more,
a lot more on the business. That's somebody would go
back into old Jack thrilling. Get the business, parks, get
that ship right. It wasn't we're fuck dumb house. Yeah,

(46:12):
I thought you was out here goddamn handling business that
now I was out here. I was just I was
on a I was just working. And like I said,
like he was saying earlier, it wasn't even about the
business for me. I was trying to be heard. And
then to the point where I was being heard so
much time with just was going by like that. And

(46:33):
then next thing, you know, like you'd be one of
the most famous broke niggers. You know what I'm saying.
So you gotta be you gotta be cognizant of that
and pay attention to what's going on, because I was
one of the first of my kind, you know, with
that trends, trends set up pioneer and so you know,
it's a good question. Did the money changed later? Did

(46:56):
you go from like you said, you go from chasing
the dream to having more than you thought you You're like,
you have a number, then you get past that number.
Now you're like, yeah, change you change your standards and change,
you know, change what you think and change not necessarily
like you know, change you for the worst, but yeah,

(47:17):
for sure, Yeah, I mean I should do this for free.
You should do this for nothing. And like I catch
myself in certain moments like damn, I'm I'm getting this
to do that. But you know, for something I would
have done for free, you would have done it just
for the sport of it or just the love of it.
And you know, certain times I'm like, man, I gotta

(47:41):
I gotta get off that and just hustle, you know,
because you can get spoiled. You get spoiled, but you
get used to, like you said, once you figure out
the business and figure out to capitalize and make it
work for you. Then it's like I catched myself and
I've done it a couple of times this year where
I'm like, man, what I'm doing of features? You know?

(48:02):
And and I'm trying to work with under dollars. I'm
trying to work with people that are heard of trying
to work with people's budgets because I'm like, what's the
process of getting the lead off feature? There? Day? I
just tapping in with whatever the content. I'll put a
contact out there, you know, profiles and otherwise, like there's
people that work with meal represent me in that regard,

(48:24):
answer the phone and mediate that kind of stuff. I
don't really like to deal with it hands on person
unless I know. Yeah, that's why I don't do interviews
and I don't like talking to starting. But the business
of it is like I catch myself, like, man, I'm
gonna work with you. I'm gonna work with your budget
because like I said, I just do this for nothing,

(48:45):
like just pay my dollar tuition like go wrap a
sweet you know, but sweet lick almost. But I mean
it is work, and for sure I built it up
to where's work for whatever or whoever? You know? But yeah,
I mean, it doesn't and we'll change you. That's I

(49:07):
feel like it's any job when you get to the
point where your professional or you a nobody working not
working for money on um you know, most levels. So
you know, the money sometimes can change how you approach
the work. Yeah, how you react to ship too. You

(49:33):
remember your first big purchase, Man, when you start getting
the money that you wanted, He's got them cool azy.
I mean, part is a few things I'm buying, like
at the time, like a dream car, stuff like that
dream Man. At the time, I was wanting to Porsch.

(49:56):
I wanted to afford to Porsch. That was just you know,
coming up when I was the first time I wrote
and One, I was like, I'm gonna get one of
these and to eventually you know, get one, was like
I'm I came up because I remember just seeing it
like in it driving and like damn versus and truthfully,

(50:18):
a lot of stuff once you get it. It's just
the thing, you know what I'm saying. I think just
growing up, growing out of certain material things. I mean,
I'm still on that. It's things that I want and
I'll go get it. Well, I grind you know, up
to the point of being able to get it or
to get you know, aspiration, to give you something to

(50:40):
something to work for. But I still want one. The
only reason they don't get one cooking my dog got one.
I was like, I can't get one. Now I almost
got enough to get mine. I want a batmobile, like
a replica batmobile. Roll real bad about to let you

(51:03):
draft ship brothers. Hold, I just wanted you driving. I'm
gonna have a yell. Just have me a little alf
that's nigga driving me around your car, sir, Thank you?
Think Jack on one man, And the crazy part is
he would wear Batman suit every time he rabbing the motherfucker.

(51:25):
I don't want him to know it was me. You
don't think they're gonna know what you a nigger Batman? Yeah,
then if they're gonna see the story in mine, That's
what I'm saying, you too, fucking obvious man. Somebody dropped
Jack Thriller with a Batman suit on. Make him look

(51:46):
like the real Batman too, but keep him as the
same him. No, they caught my body out a little bit.
No fu, give him some most of the lader stomach
and ship. It's gonna you don't have stomach muscles and ship.
You know, man, you're working went in of this media ship. Now. Man,

(52:10):
I'm trying to figure it out. Man. The same thing
he said, like I'm trying to figure out the hustle
lover it like trying to. I mean I'm learning, I'm
studying up on it, but I mean it's we're in
uh information that It was also like on the Mari
culture like yeah, I mean I got traditional cable, but

(52:32):
I don't use it. You know what I'm saying. I
watched what I want to watch when I want to
watch it. Like we got everything. That's the best part
about this ship, bro. I never thought that you would
be able to pick what the funk you want to
watch on TV. I gotta fist ten dollars a month.
I can watch everything, all the fights, all the pinto,
but I don't watch the point o. It's the fun.

(52:55):
You know this only what up? Like my boy Sam
Sam Audio. If you need a five stick, you need one,
get me one. I got you already appreciate that. How
many how many TVs you've got? I got a gag.
Give me about five of them? Five TVs? Okay? Cool?
About five and sounds like Hey, it's on me. I

(53:16):
got you appreciate, And so how you feel about it,
like obviously like you exist in that space, um like
what we're doing now, even how you feel about it
being on such a populated space, not like it's underpopulated.
You still think that's the case. Yeah, because you gotta
think about it. It's black people, man, We at least

(53:36):
two hundred years behind the communication. I was just about
to just watch people talk all the time. This is
were at that time right now where we got the
freedom to communicate with each other, even if we don't
necessarily like or agree with the content, we still need
to hear the other opinions of other people who look

(53:57):
like you get what I'm saying, because let them tell it, like,
we only let one percent of us represent us because
we don't have no way to rebuttle so you know
what I'm saying. So when ship happens and they picked
the black story of the week, we don't get we
don't have no platform when we could be black. That's

(54:20):
not true, right, Well, that's not the real story. That's
not it. That's not all of us. I mean, like
we need platforms like this where we can express ourselves.
And give our opinions, man, because we don't like we're
not represented in a lot of places. Yeah, I feel that.
I just I watched so many things of like people,
you know, it's like almost history, Like I mean, like

(54:42):
you you're asking me questions to catch people of the
speed on my story, but just so many things. Watch
people get out of jail and then they tell they're
given their war stories of like you might hurt this person,
but now let's give them a you know what I'm saying,
they got a whole in a series of Yeah, this
is all the crazy stuff I was doing to make

(55:04):
that name for myself. And it's like, man, that's better
than not necessarily better, but that's as captivating as watching
the sitcom or you're laying a whole lot of blanks.
It gives you it feel out the character profile, like yeah,
so many levels like yeah, this is what you've been
through that Okay, now that makes sense. Now it's like okay,
that's the way that that's that's why you are the

(55:25):
way you are because you've been through so much sh it.
Of course you don't want to talk about that type
of ship. Look at look at what you survived, Like
we uh, you grow up like big in Tupac. Even
that was a that was an error, that was a time.
But here we are for twenty five so years later,
and you're getting first hand accounts to so many people

(55:47):
that were right there. You know, that's like damn, I
mean they're gone. Of course they can't tell the only story,
but it's like, damn, this is this is ver. Obviously
we didn't, like you said, we couldn't chronicle it, and
times wasn't like people walking around with camera phones like
and think about it, you said twenty five years, thinking

(56:08):
how many people have come and gone in the last
twenty five years that haven't been mentioned in twenty four years.
These Look how much ship they were able to accomplish
in twenty five years. It was was youngest here when
they that. Yeah, and look how much ship they got.
They're still trying to put out pieces of versus and

(56:29):
outtakes and you know what I mean, still trying to
put something together and keep that legacy going. Man, that impact.
I didn't think about it as underpopular space because it's
so much to the song. But that's just as also
like the Internet and it's so much dope content then

(56:50):
put out by black people. That's not being recognized. That's like,
there's so many other other people that can just ripped
the content off for free and do their version of
the content that they saw because they know that the
people that they're stealing from that ain't gonna never get
the same opportunities as them. You hear, you see it

(57:12):
every day. But it's black people. We are we like
everybody like, man, everybody got a podcast. It's not even
that we are very underrepresenting the media space period. Man.
We need to take over media with the most entertaining people.
Do you think that that kind of comes with It

(57:32):
is almost like a stigma or just a thought that
or everybody's doing it because a lot of stuff is
like parallel or similar, Like a lot of a lot
of platforms, a lot of people are are kind of
doing the same or similar virgin or the I don't
want to say the same thing is, but I don't
know what works think about it. You don't think it's

(57:55):
some motherfucker's out here in college? Who do some black
kids doing cares about physics and graduating and dropping out
of college. Look, the ship that goes viral is the
ship that's picked by the people. Of course, the podcast
with all them finding strip is gonna go viral, So
you're gonna think that every podcast is this type of content.

(58:17):
But if you like ship, you have to find it.
And that's what I'm saying, Like, can you imagine what
it would be like if you can flip the fucking
TV and as opposed to being just BT and a
couple of channels with some black people on it, it
was a whole fucking channel of black people, every one
of these eight hundred thousand channels that you've got seven

(58:41):
hundred thousand hums Like we we don't have enough variety
of ship to pick the ship that we don't like.
There's only one or one or one of one on one.
So yeah, I I encourage everybody to make a podcast
or just some some kind of media or content, some thing,
even if it's like I said, it don't have to

(59:02):
be my favorite, but that don't mean that it don't
have to exist. We got this thing about it only
being one. We need variety, man, We need to be
seen as much as possible. Yeah, I guess for myself
because the ideas are add for like one, the corporate
sports and like I said, just current things with my interests.

(59:26):
I'm just not dead. I'm not dead like Howurd or
that candid um. I don't really personally like I feel
like we we do have all those tools, but I
don't like the over share. I actually be in a
space to feeling like I don't want to care what
I think about it. I'm sure somebody does somewhere, but
to make that that's what makes people go by music. Yeah,

(59:49):
but I feel like one of you. I feel like
I've always done it through the music. Yeah, and at
the point if I'm for sure, like you said, it's
a space for But I'm like, if I commit out
this energy to doing it as a talking personality, am
I going to take away from what goes and some
of my artistry because I have always like tried to

(01:00:13):
weave what was going on around me, like in the
current sense, like some of my projects, as some of
my wraps, so even the time caps was like I'm
like referencing things that are very much of the now.
The kind of thing I'm like, well, if I, you know,
do it on this level, is that gonna take me

(01:00:35):
away from being able to do it as a writer,
as an artist or see, this is one thing that
I noticed about the Internet. Though the Internet gave ship layers,
you haven't seen the way that this ship works. It's
like they got this show right where artists be in
their neighborhood, are just on the spot, but they just
dropped a microphone down and they're wrapper verse or perform

(01:00:55):
a whole song, and then they'll go to this other
show where they can break down the lyrics land by
Lad by Lad. Then you can go do tiny desks
where you can just perform the same song, whether you
saw a raw version the same song where you just
broke down the lyrics. Now they want to see you

(01:01:15):
perform it on tiny desk. Then they want to see
you perform it at the award show. Then they want
to see you do the remix and do a whole
another video and add leado to the second version. Then
they wanted to see the techno version, and the TikTok
got another version, and then the Instagram got It's like,

(01:01:36):
this ship ain't just a song no more. It's never
too much. It's what have you done for me lately?
You gotta keep on pound them inside of the head
and whatnot. And one thing about you know, doing interviews
and exposing yourself and whatnot. It's some people that hadn't
heard your music, but they'll see you on an interview,
Like Man, I like leaders, you know, this is this

(01:01:59):
the digital a motherfucker's that have a TikTok of your
voice of a land from your song, no idea what
this song is? No idea? That is your song? The
May twelve videos, the tradition. This sound alone of your
voice then got two hundred and twenty million likes this

(01:02:21):
last week. They don't need to need the whole song
no more. They will take three seconds of you saying
now and that ship is the trend. Bitches be tripping.
It's you out of them, dude. But I mean, for
sure that's that's what's going on, is the way it is.

(01:02:42):
But like Man, as an artist, it almost like there's
a part of me that almost feels like those processes
kind of doll or I don't know how to describe it,
kind of doles out some of the you're a pure Yeah,
I was gonna say the pure value of it. Like,

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my goal as an artist is to be the breaking point.
I don't want to know. I don't have to be
the number one. I don't have to be the best.
But when the conversation comes up in my field, I
want to be the nigger that changed the conversation when
they'd be like, oh, such and such was a great comedian.
Oh he wasn't fucking with Bernie mcdougheh. But y'all, but

(01:03:28):
Carlos Miller, shut your ways up. That's all I'm That's
what I'm aiming for. I want to be the motherfucking
ship in the conversation. I want to be the breaking
point that make everybody start. He was a motherfucking they
fucking Carlos. Yeah, I can do that. I think. Um
like how he was talking about how music is consumed,

(01:03:51):
how like how things stick you know what I'm saying,
maybe three seconds, it might be a cliper, maybe a
sound Like. I feel like there's just different things, different
ways to go with the music. And when I kind
of set aside the idea of making my music programmable
and wanting to make music to be felt, it's like,

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I just don't care about the the trendiness of right, Like,
I making a lot of niggas that here cooning on
these uh these interviews and ship. I look at it
like wearing wearing a mask was wearing a mask, and
I mean something of it is it's environmental. Some of
it this is we're doing. We've done what we've seen that.

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Like I said, I'm in a space where I'm like, ship,
how do how do I make this work? From me?
Like I see, like I said, I want one of those?
What I gotta do to get the you know, and
a lot of times you can lose yourself. You can
look like really, how you gotta do is like you said,
like be the ship, like make it, bring something new

(01:04:58):
to the type of right, like in a sation or whatever.
But a lot of times it's like, oh, he got
on some tough first ships, so I gotta be. I
gotta be tough first. I gotta be you know, I
gotta take it. And they had he has five guns
in that video, Bro, bring some more guns. I mean,
for example, you know what I'm saying, it's just like
where it's kind of and that's I mean, that's one

(01:05:21):
example or whatever it is. And it's like, man, you'll
you'll losers, so you will lose the purity of it,
Like yeah, I commit nigging Matt. That's what we say.
You won't to know what we say over the rest
of this video, go to that. Just in case you
wonder what we're doing, we are now showing you just

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We weren't, We weren't. It's that the rest of this
listen the rest of the audience on happen. Yeah, yeah,

(01:06:13):
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fun nobody, no, I say put it. Oh we do
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(01:06:55):
you know eight No, we get on all types of
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I mean, hey, you gotta watch the app. The app
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years of freeness that we've already provided upon you. We

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gave this away for free for years. Let's moved together
and this is the show and put it on another
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why you're buying their ship, So don't ask us. We're
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knows get that. Yeah, we saw what you said in

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the comments. We saw it the good, the bad, and
the ugly. So you know what, we're folding under this pressure.
We hear you, We hear you. Just get the funk
on that, y'all. Way, just for an hour, though, That's
all you get? Is it out so that you can't

(01:08:05):
complain with with the rest of it? That something I'll see.
We got with a whole bunch of ads in between,
like and like I've been there. Hey, how you doing
slow motion? Waste? Motherfucking Yeah, let's just uh go ahead,
and make sure Channel eighty five dot com. I want

(01:08:27):
to make sure I read what they wrote. They wrote
some ship out for us. These niggers don't know how
to spell or type proper sentences, but they try it
to get us to get y'all to buy the app.
What you think we want to read this ship kind
of five man, so we can talk that ship man,
Ladies don't eat like that's right on the app, uncensored,

(01:08:51):
unfiltered and edit it. Can you believe that I'm talking
about what actual production and jump cuts clips tax type
of like exclusive ship that they don't even know that.
They don't even know that. We gotta show where we'll
be cooking like anxiety foods and ship that's on the app. Yep,

(01:09:11):
Chico got a head right and clams that he too.
Nobody passed it, so that's why the ship looked like this.
But we're working on it and you can see it
on the app. They didn't didn't even tell them about
the text courts that we had uploaded on that. They
don't even know that. We got a whole show about
Long Street on the app, right, and we got the

(01:09:33):
alternate end until the color purple up there? Oh man,
We got the raw audish, all the hood cook, all
blueful rights on the app. So if you want to
see some ship that you know they're trying to have
from that, I'm leaving the dot com Bokada. You got
an hour for free. We gave you what you wanted.
Now give us some subscriptions to the app. Eighty five

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dollars a year. Channel Waity five dot Com tay five
south Shore. Get that. This is what they don't know.
Really three dollars, but adjusting for inflation is an Get
that man, stop bullshing it. Were out of here. Man,
We're not about to keep working all this time for
we're working for Maybe we are only well your way too,

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fly oh