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August 15, 2025 40 mins

Episode 396 - “G Herbo” Feat: Ferrari Simmons & You Know BT Produced by: Baller Alert

Topics Include: Chicago Upbringing, The Streets, Getting Shot, Independent Music Hustle, Fatherhood, His New Single "Went Legit" & More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They get a little They called me.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Balling Love up to the ball Alert Show. I go
by the name for Simmons, I go by the name.
You know, big team here in Atlanta. Brought to you
by Revolt. What's up, brother?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Always good to see you.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Mann.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
No, we were just talking about Detroit and I was like, man,
that was our first time in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Uh, you know when we first time?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, no, not BT's first time in Detroit.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I ain't know Detroit was lit like that Detroit.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You gotta have you gotta have that ish on in Detroit. Yeah,
for sure, be having them buffs. Yeah, it's a lot
of it's a lot of gangsters in Detroit too.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I found out that it was like that because we
did the after party uh at Christian And I was like,
why they got the streets blocked up like they had
streets blocked Detroit, Detroit, And they was like, get wild
in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I said, Oh, it's like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
And they take the Jury game series too.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh yeah, no, you can't even put no play player
on in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
They're the only basketball team with the arena that got
the ice cam.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, they got the ice cam and the arena, little Caesars,
aps and rollies and so you know, like Atlanta they
got them, they got the ice cam, so they'll.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Put you be like, yeah you gotta flex that Jay.
How they play play on in the d at all?
For sure?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
How you feeling today, brother, I'm good, bro, blessed man
is g herbal living a survivor living?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah? Living? Living living. I'm tired of just surviving, surviving
my whole life for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Every time I see you, man, the jury is just like, now,
educate me on these diamonds.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Brother, this is not fifty pointers. Those look like two
hundred pointers? Is there such thing?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I got a one fifty, I got one okay, yeah
that's the seas. One cares, Yeah, one cares and I
got two Cappo. Don't like errors, man, Yeah yeah yeah
yeah some change man.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Now are you done?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Jurry?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, You're not done?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah No, I love Jerry, Bro. I'm not gonna lie
to you like I'm rabb to buy my kids.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Jerry, even though they don't care about it, I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Still doing it just because just man, you don't need
no more Jerry Man. You got about five chains on.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
You update your Jerry's what you're saying, Yeah, that's what
I do.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Basically, I update it for real.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Because you're just the old ones because I think what
Infinity links is more popular than Now.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
What does that mean? Update? Like you switched this? I
just switched my kids out. Yeah, Like you know what
I'm saying, I go back to the thing with Jerry
is like you switch it out and then you might
go back to the old kid if it's back and style.
You know what I'm saying. But I'm I passed a
lot of my jury out too though, Like I'll be
turning the guys up, turning the hood I gave. I
didn't give away over five hundred thousand worth of Jerry

(02:52):
for sure, Damn damn sure.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now, before we really get into our conversation, I do
want to talk about Chicago and how cold it gets
in Chicago on the winter. One time, for my boy
Devin Hester, you played for the Bears. I went to
high school with him, and I never forget we had
a game and he said, Nah, you gotta get your
clothes from Chicago because it's a different type of cold
over here. Can you explain how cold it really gets

(03:18):
in Chicago?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Because y'all right there about that lake because like and
all that other.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Stuff Lake Michigan, Lake mich Yeah, it freezes in Chicago,
and I grew up. I grew up about five blocks
away from Lake Michigan, so it was all the cold. Yeah,
yeah for sure. So I grew up five blocks away
from that, so I was always freezing walking to school.

(03:43):
Sometimes jackets don't even do nothing, because it's like you
gotta wear a long sleeve thermal like this is how
dressing the win. In Chicago. I wear thermal pants, the
long sleeve undershirt most likely a hoodie and then a
winter coat and scully or whatever like because ski mass
for sure, you need a ski mask, likelighty gloves because

(04:06):
like your hands get like almost frost. But it's it'sgo
like for sure. But Chicago be fun and the one
time too, so people still come outside freezing from outside
the front of the club. They dresses on and the cold
freezing like Chicago be fun though I'm not gonna get fun,
but it be cold as hell for sure, all right

(04:29):
below zero type of cold. I used to walk to
school like we used to sometimes, like you would still
have to go to school and blow zero weather sometimes
like they canceled school every now and then, but they
can't keep canceling it.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Because it's because and then y'all got this crazy stuff
where it's just piles of snow to the side because
it's just pushed to the side to side, and it
don't melt because it's so damn cold. It's just there,
like you know, like you know, it's just there, bro,
It's just a big pole.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
The most snow I've seen in Chicago is like probably
like like six feet something like that. That's crazy. Six
feet going to school then yeah, I went outside though,
just to go play in it. All right.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So for those who don't know what part of Chicago is,
do you herb go from.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm from the east side of Chicago, Sat Ninth Street,
say Knife and Essex. That's the far east side, like
right off of by Lake Michigan.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Kanye West grew up probably like five blocks away from
where I'm from. Yeah, he grew up myself. Your drift,
that's like fast six blocks away from my block.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
How was you herbal growing up? Were you an athletic person?
Were you into sports heavily.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Or it was definitely into sports. I wouldn't say athletic though,
because I only played basketball, So I went like an
all around athlete, like I only played basketball. That was
my first love. So I played basketball my whole grammar
school career and going up into high school, I played
up until my sophomore. Yeah, so I played my freshman
year and then I got shot when I was a

(05:59):
freshman too, so like you know what I'm saying, kind
of change. You got shot as a freshman in high school.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah yeah, and that changed your way of like I
don't want to do sports no more.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Kind of yeah, like it kind of it kind of
made me lean more towards the streets after I got shot,
And like my coach was like, it's so crazy, Like
we had a coach where like I got shot when
a couple my homies got shot, and he kicked us
off the team, like he said, we was liabilities, you
know what I'm saying. And I mean I kind of
understood them because around that time, at that point, I

(06:35):
wasn't like fully focused and dedicated to basketball. Like it's
it's like a two way street, Like you know what
I'm saying. He kicked us out because we wasn't super
dedicated to basketball. But then you had those certain coaches
where like they pushed you, like they don't want you
to be in the streets. They ready to be playing
back even if you have way in. They ready to
just have you out of the streets. Like huh, you
stay on the team, you feel, But yeah, I was

(06:57):
forced off the team my freshman year going into my sophomore. Yeah,
like after I got shot, And at that point, I
was like I was in the streets all the way
for real. So I didn't even really care, like I
just like just lean more towards the streets. But on
the flip side, I was rapping, so that made me
focus more on music too. So you were rapping in

(07:17):
ninth grade too, Like, yeah, I was rapping already, So
he's rapping and doing basketball.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Got shot and it was like nah, but see, my
question to you is how does one stay out of
the streets in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
It's literally there.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
It's tough, man. You got to be a real leader
man and have some discipline. Don't get me wrong. It's
it's people who do it. Like it's people I got,
like homies, family members who like, never been in the
streets for real. You feel what I'm saying, Like it
wasn't their thing, but come from that background, still live
in the same neighborhood, all went to school together. You
feel me, but just like tried something else like just

(07:51):
staying in their lane. You feel me. And honestly, those
like they they those are people who are the most respected.
For real, like you know what I'm saying, don't try
to like right now, the streets have changed though a
lot since I was really coming up for real, real,
the generation under me has changed significantly when it comes
to the streets and the rules and morals and things

(08:13):
that come with being in the streets. But like certain
guys is like no, I don't even I'm just gonna
hoop or do this or go to school or whatever
the case. Like those the guys that was like you know,
kept protecting like oh yeah, bro, along he's doing him doing.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now what is wait? Wait, we gotta go to commercials.
We gotta go to commercials. You know, we are on television.
Herbo's in the Build a Revolt TV ball Or show
right back.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Welcome back to Revolte TV right here with the Ball
Alert show. Now we was just talking about you said
there are people in Chicago that's that's not in the
streets that's avoided being in the streets.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
You also talked about, uh, the generation that you had
coming up versus the generation now.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
What do you see the difference? It's like chaos, like
you know what I'm saying, no real guidance, don't get
me wrong, like talking about yours. No the generation like,
don't get me wrong me coming up, like we didn't
really have no big homies for real. I'm not gonna
lie like I didn't have big homies my generation that
really like showed us the ropes, but we had older

(09:16):
guys that we looked up to and that treated us
equally like leaders, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like we seeing what they were doing and kind of
like mimic what they did, Like you know what I'm saying,
How they got money, how they took care of their family,
and certain shit like that, you know what I'm saying,
Certain stuff like that. Excuse me. But like the generation now,

(09:38):
they don't have no big homies, no guid It's nobody
want to be like you know what I'm saying, Like
all they want to do is be like savages for real,
Like you know what I'm saying, I don't even think,
don't get me wrong. And the internet is like, yeah,
it plays of it make it way worse to play
a big part of that. And what I mean by
that is like they want to get money because they

(09:59):
see it on the internet, but they don't know how
to get the money. They don't have no hustle. They
want to rob, they want to take, they want to kill,
they want to steal, they want to finest. They don't
have no real hustle. You feel what I'm saying, Like
what I see in the generation under me, Like these
kids don't get up in a hustle Like me, We
was hustling, bri I ain't gonna lie Like when I
was fifteen, It like we was trapping for real, for real.
And on top of that, when I started making money

(10:21):
in music, it's like I had a double bubble. So
it's like all everybody around me wanted to get some money.
You feel me, Like we wanted to dress, fly, we
want to have cars. Like I don't see that with
the next genera, the generation like right now with these kids,
like they're not trying to save up and go back
how with they first ten thousand, Like you know what
I'm saying, I see them get their first couple thousand dollars,
they blowing it, getting high by and all type of

(10:45):
unnecessary stuff. You know what I'm saying, guns or whatever
the case may be, like, and it's definitely the internet,
like one thousand percent, because they got this perception of
that's what makes them hot, that's what makes them cool.
Like if you on the rap, ain't gonna say you
not even you can't even be a real street raper
unless you kill somebody. That was never really the case

(11:06):
when we was coming up. You feel what I'm saying,
like we like, don't get me wrong, people was in
the streets. You did what you did, but it wasn't
forced upon you, like you know what I'm saying, It
wasn't the requirement. Wasn't the requirement to be a rap
or be you know what I'm saying. You had dudes
who rapped, who was just cool, who had task to
the streets, who just got money, who messed with all
the fly chicks and all of that. You know what

(11:26):
I'm saying, Like now the requirement is you have to
be a crash out for real, Like how you feel
like you're gonna be able to rap and get some
money and take care of your family. If you're outside
spending like it don't really make sense. You gotta choose one.
You can't really be one for the in, one for out,
you know what I'm saying. And I learned that the
hard way because I had one foot in one for that,
And it got to a point in my life where

(11:47):
it was like I gotta like focus and just go
and put my time and dedication and all my energy
solely into rap m a dial go to jail. Like
I really felt like that.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I was that was gonna be my next question. Did
anything happen to make you feel that way? Like, Damn,
I can't have one foot in one foot out?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, for sure. Like I got into it like a
real incident where like I could have lost my life,
you know what I'm saying. I could have lost my life.
I could have ended up in jail anything, you know
what I'm saying. And I just was like, man, it
ain't worth it, you know what I'm saying. And I
had already had some success, you know, I had already
bought my mama mansion and all kinds of stuff you

(12:28):
feel me like, and it was just a matter of
like putting yourself in harm's way in that environment. Still
going back to my neighborhood every day, you feel I'm saying,
you got to look over it.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Did you feel like you had to do that?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Though? Yeah, I did. I definitely felt like I had
to do that, Like I felt like it was an obligation,
Like I had to be the one from my neighborhood
in the streets really living what I wrapped about, really
taking care of everybody around me because I heard that
respect already, or I had that image. Whereas like all right, bet,
yeah this heard this is neighborhood, and he the one

(13:03):
that's putting on for us hood. So you got to
be in the mix of that. And it's like nobody
never told me to do anything other than that, you
know what I'm saying, Like nobody told me otherwise, Like
get from out here, surety, Like ain't nothing out here
but death of jail. Like you know what I'm saying,
You have to learn that inviting me to it, like
come outside where you at? You know what I'm saying.
It's like I had to really learn that, and I

(13:23):
had to separate myself from a lot of people too, though,
Like I had to cut ties with a lot of
my closest friends, you know what I'm saying, And that
didn't like the love was always done. It don't mean
like I don't rock with y'all no more. But I
had to try something different, like I needed new, a
whole totally new group of friends everything. You know what

(13:43):
I'm saying, Like I just had to switch it all up,
You feel what I'm saying, because I wanted different results,
couldn't keep doing the same thing I want. You know
what I'm saying, different results, You're gonna get the same results.
So it's like I stopped asking for a lot of
my homies. I stopped getting the cars with them, like
I just and I didn't have the answers though I
didn't have it figured out, Like I was stretched out
because I felt like I was leaving a lot of
people who I cared about behind. I didn't know what

(14:06):
my next move was gonna be. You feel I'm saying
like I wasn't going outside, so I wasn't really making
no money because I was still trying to hustle and
do a little certain stuff. Like I wasn't making no money.
I was just sitting in the house just figuring out
my next move, like, man, I need to just like
just focus on rap. You feel me and like and
that's what made like, that's how my first my debut album,

(14:27):
Humble Beast came about because I just went to the
studio and I was just speaking all of like the
all I was just being vulnerable, speaking about all my
emotions and everything I went through, the things I was
going through with my closest friends and leaving the streets
and you know, near death experiences and all that kind
of stuff. I put it into that music. And that's

(14:50):
how you know, I put into that album, And that's
how Humble Beasts came about. Like I was going through
all of that around that time.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Now, do you feel like that create new enemies when
you you were in a position like that and you
gotta tell your friends, like man, I can't be around y'all.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Absolutely, and especially when and that's those situations and I
give you one better, I feel like they don't even
create new enemies. It revealed those old ones. It revealed
the people who was always enemies in the first place.
Because the people who was in my corner or if
you were in my corner, are if you are still
in my corner. You gonna want what's best for me,

(15:25):
you know what I'm saying. So, like when people started
to reveal like their true colors, and I saw the
envy come out and stuff like that, Like I didn't
take it for granted. I didn't ignore it or anything
like that. You know, I removed those people around me
from around me because where I come from, like I
know the ins and outs of the streets. That's how
you end up killed, you know what I'm saying. That's
how somebody will really take your life because it's somebody

(15:47):
that you trust and you grew up with and you're
thinking like, oh yeah, no, it's cool. Or he tripping
like you getting into certain situations. Nigga mad at you. You
bought a new chain, you bought a new car, Nigga
mad at you, Like, man, you're doing this and I
got this, I got these and I'm messed up in
my family this like everybody got problems. And it's like
you or do something and it's never enough. It's never enough.
It's never enough, and you feel obligated to those people

(16:10):
and they keep pulling from you, and it just take
one mistake where they just feel like you know what
I'm saying. They just you know, people really like I
feel with envy, like I never had that problem, Like
I never hated on anybody before, Like even when I
was broke, I never wanted with nobody head like I
always knew what was for me. And a lot of
people could say that and not really mean it. You

(16:30):
feel what I'm saying, like I never hated on nobody,
and I think that's why I'm blessed because I always
gave people opportunities even when I ain't, like wasn't in
my best You feel what I'm saying, like I always just
I never was a gatekeeper or anything like that. Like
you know what I'm saying. I never put people in
positions where they done made more money than me in
certain cases. You fee what I'm saying. But I just

(16:51):
did that off the loove, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like other people who don't really feel like that,
and they see you doing something, they'll really try to
kill you for really for real real.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, let's go to commercial g Herbals in the building.
This is a great conversation. It's great Baller show on.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Revolt, and we are back right here with the Ball
Alert show right here on Revot TV.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Man, we having a great conversation de Herbal in the building.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, g Herbal's in the building.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Man, Now with the music, right, Do you feel like
music saved your life from getting out of Chicago?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, definitely, Man, Like I believe in like passion and
purpose as well. Like I really feel like my real
purpose and me fulfilling my destiny on this earth is
doing this, doing what I'm doing because not only am
I changing my life and my family's life through music,
I'm changing other people's lives. And I'm spreading like knowledge

(17:48):
to generation of kids or generation of anybody who's listening
on how to get out of poverty. You know what
I'm saying, Like, you don't got to be a rapper.
Whatever it is, whatever you feel your passion is or
your purpose is on this earth, you chase that no
matter what, like and the most uncomfortable situations, whatever it is.
You know what I'm saying, You lean towards those fears,

(18:09):
and that's how you change turn a bad situation into
a good situation. You feel I'm saying it's possible. If
I did it, anybody could do it. You know what
I'm saying. So I definitely feel like music changed my life,
because when I started doing it, I was only rapping
about the streets, losing my homies, seeing people get killed, murders,
stuff like that. You feel what I'm saying and talking

(18:31):
about how I wanted to get out, you know what
I'm saying. And the best thing about it is like
my supporters or anybody who just tuned in, you could
see that entire journey, like where I talked about where
I wanted to be in five years and then five
years later now, so now I'm talking about where I
want to be in the next five ten years. And
then it's like just time and time like it's gonna

(18:53):
it's gonna go time pass you by quick, bro. Like
I've been doing it for then in fifteen years, bro,
and it's like I'm only twenty nine years old. I'm
still young, Like I'm about to be thirty this year,
and I got ten plus years last Skin in the
game shows like that's what, Like, That's why I'm always
like humble, and I know I'm blessed, and I always

(19:14):
appreciate the little things, and it's like I just try
to just get better day by day you know what
I'm saying, So, like, if it wont for music, Bro,
I don't really know why I'd be to be honest.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
One time, for Ron deaf Jam, he told us he
was like, man, we got g Herbert. I was like, hell, yeah,
we gotta get him here. Because one thing that BT
and I do we give people they flowers. I want
to give your flowers, man, because you are definitely necessary
to the culture. Your fans are crazy. They love your
ass off God damn too. And I personally, like I

(19:46):
told you in Detroit anytime I see you, you're a
dope dad.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Bro, appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
It's very difficult.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, super to do what what we do.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Schedule crazy, you get a call, you got to have this,
get this money.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
You gotta be your dad being a dad.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I literally told you in private, like that's probably one
of the hardest jobs ever for being present for your kids.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
So, I just wanted to give your flowers on dad
can also tell you you're a dope dad. Now I want
to talk about what are like some challenges of.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
G herbal the dad challenges communication for real, like you know,
especially with my oldest like yo, soign. He's starting to
ask questions how old is he now? He's seven? Yeah,
he's starting to ask questions, like asking me like if
I've been arrested, what I've been arrested for. But he's
asking these questions because he got access to the internet,
stuff like he's seen mugshots and stuff like that. You

(20:40):
feel me. It's like, you know, it's it's kind of
tough because you don't want to like spring so much
on them at such an early age. You only seven,
but you don't want them to be naive either, Like
you know what I'm saying, So you got a fan
a line where it's like you could be transparent with
your kids and not exposing to too much, you feel
what I'm saying. So that's like something I been really

(21:00):
dealing with lately. And you know the thing with me though,
like I feel like what makes me a good father,
you know what I'm saying, is like being a father,
you know, like it's never we never got the formula,
you know what I'm saying, Like there is no correct
way to do it for really, you know what I'm saying,
It's just time, Like you gotta spend time where you

(21:21):
know your kids and you getting to know your kids
and they understand you as well, where it's like they
comfortable talking to you, They comfortable and confiding in you.
They comfortable and you be in that safe space, you
know what I'm saying, Like no matter what, Like if
I'm in the house and something that's going on, my
kids hurt theirself stuff, they told whatever, they gonna come
look for me, like daddy, Like I'm the comfort, you

(21:43):
know what I'm saying. Like of course they get that
in their mom too, but it's just like something different
about you know what I'm saying. When you got the
comfort or your father, you feel protected, you know, And
I get them there, you know what I'm saying. I
definitely get them that. And the thing with me is
like the little things. I don't care if it's hour,
if it's thirty minutes, two hours, four hours, a whole day.

(22:04):
Anytime that I spend with my kids, it's like a blessing.
I enjoy that time and I make the most of it,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like I'm the
fun parent, don't get me wrong. Like I'm definitely the
fun parent. You want to look the other way when
when they get something like you go get that. Yeah,
for sure, I'm definitely that, Like go on here, rock out,
get the cookies, get the snacks, get the junk feed.

(22:24):
We could watch TV the three in the morning. That's me,
Like you know what I'm saying. My girl, she putting
them down early. They're going to sleep at nine o'clock
with her, Like with me, were up to chilling, kicking
and chilling, like going to the jumpy house the next day.
Like you know what I'm saying. I do all of
that with my kids and it comes from like that
foundation that my dad gave me two though, Like my

(22:46):
dad has been that my entire life, you know what
I'm saying him and my mom.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Was still saying that because some people don't have a
dad to say that.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Dad was right, right, And it's like my dad didn't
always have the money and the resource, but he had
the time he was dead, so whatever. It was. Like
my dad he did construction and stuff like that when
I was younger, you know, he had bought properties and stuff.
So he was just like taking me to work with him.
Like I really wasn't supposed to be in the environment.
It was dangerous, like they drilling sh sowing and laying

(23:18):
brick and all this type of stuff. But he got
me around just because like he just wanted me around,
you feel me. So like now that goes like it
kind of transfer over to with my kids, Like the
studio that's probably not like an environment for a real babies,
for a seven year old. Your son is a rapper now, yeah, yeah,

(23:39):
but I always and I make a kid friendly, don't
get me wrong, but it's like, yeah, I have my
kids in the studio with me. O sign been in
the studio with me till three in the morning since
he was a toddler. Bro, you know what I'm saying.
It's like I'm not really realizing, like you know, I'm
just like, all right, I got my son with me
in the studio thugging, but he's watching me record, he
watching me do this. So that's probably why he had

(24:00):
inspiracious like all right, I'm gonna be a rapper one
day in the back of his mind, you feel I'm saying.
So when he got the confidence to like, I don't
finna rap, I'm gonna do it, I just supported it
for real, like you know what I'm saying, Like regardless,
and it sound fire like even if even if he
didn't sound good, you know what I'm saying, I would
still support him and I would help him make it.
You know what I'm saying. Register over to people, would

(24:21):
it sound good? You know what I'm saying. That's your
job as a father to pour whatever you have into
your kids. You know what I'm saying. It's like, Bro,
it's I feel like nothing about me or no quality
that I have is like more powerful or more special
than being a father. Like no matter how good I rap,
or how much money I get or had anything or

(24:43):
jury or nothing, like, nothing stand out about me more
than being at that. You know what I'm saying. It's like,
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Though, appreciate that, my guy.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Let's go to commercial. When we come back.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Gee Herbal on the building right here on the Ball
Alert Show brought to you by Revolt.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
And we are right here with the bottle of her
show on Revolt TV.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
G herbals in the bill.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
We have a dope ass conversation. Wait, first and foremost, where'd.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Your name come from? That's crazy? Like really, to be honest, bro,
I ain't know how to come up with a rap name. Okay,
nickname was already Herbie because my real government name is Herbert. Okay,
so it's like little Herb. It came from my dad
was big Herd. You know what I'm saying. My dad

(25:28):
named Herbert, my grandfather named Herbert. Like I'm the third
generation Herbert got it. So I ain't know how to
come up with no rap name. So I'm just like,
look Herd, you feel me? Like, okay, just like that.
To be honest, my first rap name it wasn't gonna
work like it was Little Heron. Yeah, it was like

(25:52):
who is Who's a little Heroin? Like you know what
I'm saying. But it came from my homies, them in
the hood. They trapping. They like, sure you spending dope
like he Ron, like flow dope, like you know what
I'm saying. So that's where it came from. My very
first video its said little Heron and the title Wait,
who told you to change it? Who said he? This
ain't gonna work? Uh? Mickey Yeah, Mickey Houstin was just

(26:15):
like man, little Heron, Bro, that's crazy, bro, Like it
can't be your name for real, you know what I'm saying.
So just changed it to little Herb and just from
there it came g Herbal, my homie, my homie real,
the same guy who named me little Heron, my big homie,
one of my older homies from the hood. He he
was like, man, you ain't a little no more like you,

(26:38):
g Herbal. Like you you move like a young general,
like you're a leader like U. G Herbal, Like take
that little off your name. You know what I'm saying.
So it went from that to g Herbal and I
just ran with it like that, you know, Bro gave
me that stamp. I ran with it literally and swerves
SWERVEO came from my homie walk we call like plays
like when you bust some plays in the hood, like swerves.

(27:00):
And I was I was like, probably was like eighteen
at the time or something like that. And he like, Bro,
he's making a lot of swerves, Like I'm a gonna
start calling you swerve over, like making a lot of
swerves right now, Like I was, you know what I'm saying,
making plays, I got bad coming in back in after
back end, you feel what I'm saying. He like, man,
I'm about to start calling you swerve And I just

(27:20):
ran with it all right.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
So as your music starts blowing up when does g
Herbal realize Damn, I can't just go anywhere anymore. Like
when did that realization happen?

Speaker 3 (27:32):
You can remember? I do remember it was right right
before my son was born. Man, Like I was still
living in Chicago, and of course I had already had
some success by the time. You know, my son was born.
This is twenty eighteen he was born, so maybe twenty seventeen.
Around that time, Like I was still living in Chicago,

(27:53):
driving my own cars, driving around by myself. I ain't
had like I didn't have twenty four to seven secure,
like right now, I got my own security on staff,
like twenty four seven three sixty five, no matter what
I'm doing day that you feel me like this is
before I even like I wasn't efficient when it came
to that. I didn't even had a mental capacity to

(28:14):
be like I need to have security with me at
where I go. You feel me like I was in
the streets, just transitioning out of the streets, and it's
like I still hear that mentality like, oh, I'm good,
I'm just gonna bring my gun here where I go.
You fee what I'm saying, Like that's how I used
to think, and I got into a situation where I
got arrested right before my son was born, and I
stuck and I sat in the county jail for like

(28:37):
a week or something like that, and I couldn't like
I bonded out. They didn't let me out, you feel me.
And I'm like, I gotta stop moving like this, bro,
you feel what I'm saying, Like, cause I would still
go to random spots, go to gas station, go through this, go.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Through dam You would go to the random gas station.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, Like I go to a random gas station downtown,
hop out, get the gas. I probably pay like a
old head to pump my gas, but I'll still go
inside of that, you know what I'm saying. Like you know,
but yeah, I was moving like that, like go on
a restaurant, go order my food, like you feel me.
I was really outside like fried for.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Real, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, and I had got arrested. You know what I'm saying.
I'm like, I can't be moving like you're sitting in
there thinking. Yeah, I was just thinking that. Like always,
when I get into a situation, I always try to
find a lesson in it. And the reason why I
knew I had to switch it up because my son
was on the way and I had missed his baby shower,
and it was like it was kind of like a

(29:36):
sign from God, like if you don't change this, you're
gonna be missing a lot more when it comes to
your kid. Like you feel what I'm saying, Like you
end up going to jail or you're gonna die and
you're gonna miss his whole life, you know what I'm saying,
Like that's what I took from that situation, like for
me to be who I was, be that big at
the time, have money, bond out, I'll bond it out
the next day. And they still kept me in jail

(29:57):
and I missed the baby shower, and it was like
it just took so much from me because I was excited.
It was my first kid. You know what I'm saying,
Like we paid all that money for the baby shit.
I think I was probably spend fifty K or some
shit like that on a baby show and wasn't able
to go you feel I'm saying. So it just like
I don't know. When I got out, I started to
move completely different though, like for real, for higher security,

(30:17):
like and shit, my security been with me pretty much
ever since.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Now.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
As that happens and you're getting bigger and you're getting
bigger musically, what happens, Like when does you herbel get
like a deal?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
When?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
When when does that moment happen? When you be like, wow,
you're folking to rite me a check?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
When does that happen?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know, it's so crazy, Like I still haven't even
seen that check, Like I ain't.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Wait wait, wait what you mean you ain't seen that chick?

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Like I ain't never signed for like no significant amount
of money yet, Like I've still been independent my whole career,
Like I ain't never signed no double digit eight figure
check or nothing like that. Like everything I got is
just grinded, like off the muscle. You know what I'm saying,
I still be independent, stacking shows, making money off residuals.
You know what I'm saying, Like the money I like

(31:11):
make every month off my music because I still you know,
own rights to my music and.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Got that's why you ain't getting no big check yeah
my old ones and.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Eating off all that.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, But right now I want to do. I need
the big payday right now.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, man, you can't give up.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
You can't give up the rights.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Man.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I want that check, you'all. I'm gonna spill it now.
It's like I've built so much, like with my brand,
and build so much of a foundation even with getting
a big check, Like I'm gonna still be able to
keep my rights, you know what I'm saying, because of
how I already modeled my business. You know what I'm saying,

(31:50):
Like they'll still give me money, give me a revolver
where I'm in an eight figure deal and I still
own seventy percent of my music. You know what I'm saying.
I've built that well, any label would give me that
deal right now, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like I'm about to be a free agent, Like this
is my final project too though, Yeah, this is my
final project with the label, with my production company. That

(32:13):
I was saying to I was sixteen years old, So
this is the first time in my career and I'm
not going to have no paperwork with anything. I know.
You happy, you walking at you? You walking in there,
Like what's the deal? Yeah? Yeah, for sure. It's like
right now it's like my contract season for real, Like
this where I'm about to get the super Max. Yeah,
so I'm excited for that and I feel like I

(32:34):
want to just try something, try something different when it
comes to like just the model and make of my business.
You know what I'm saying, Like I want that big
label push that I never heard where it's like they
know they got more skin in the game. They gonna,
you know what I'm saying, do more. You feel me
like that machine chasing Global superstyletum right now, Like I
feel like I did everything else. I've been independent for

(32:56):
over ten years in my career, Like in an independent system.
While I'm saying to my production company, got to deal
with them, and we just go and go get distribution
and go get label services from the label. You knowe
what I'm saying, And like Mark God, Yeah, and I've
never once like and I ain't even this ain't like
no shade or nothing, but I ain't never like got
that big check from the label. You feel what I'm saying,

(33:18):
Like everything that we had going on internally, like you
know what I'm saying, we broke bread and stuff like that,
and I just make the money. I was blessed to
you know, high residual income, and well I've been able
to like stack and take care of my family and
stuff like that you feel what I'm saying, Like, I
only got I got seven figure checks like probably like

(33:40):
three full times, and my whole corrupt from the label
in general, just in general, in general, any seven figure checks,
checks a million dollars or more. Only got that three
full times, and my whole career, everything else has been
off the muscle for sure. Man.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Let's let's go to commercial and let's talk about went
legit when we come back on the Ball Show brought
to you by Revolt.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
That's right, man, we were back right here with the
bat Alert Show on Revolt tvg Herbos in the building.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
What's something, man, I went legit?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Listen, bro, I got a little group chat, you know
at the radio station.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, it come on.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's just got.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
You sound like you was mad when you when you
start round, you was mad.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
DJ's in that chat. Everybody said, is here.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah, we're talking about it, yo, I said, when I
heard that record, I said, he was mad. You just
got out the phone with your girl and was like,
you know what, cut the mica.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
I think that's what happened for real. I'm not even
lying to you, bro, I think we might have been like.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
So this one plan.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I just went in there just no no, no, no no.
I just went in there, vib and like we was
in the studio, probably in at like thirty deep, and
that was just like what I was feeling at the moment.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Thirty deep in the studio is crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, we do that.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
A lot, probably like a chimney and they like to
get that energy.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I went to the studio last night. Man,
they almost kicked me off the plane. Bro. When I
got on the plane, can I talk to you on
the outside real quick? I'm like, man, what's up? Like, uh,
did you take something like marijuana before you? I said, Man,
I don't smoke. I was at the concert, man, I
do music, and they was just smoking. Man, Like leave

(35:22):
me alone, bro, Like, yeah, for sure. Almost got kicked
off the plane this morning, man, Delta and fucking around.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
So went legit. This is the new the new single
that's out. Yes, sir, we appreciate this piece of work.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
When's the full.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Thing from a body of work, man, Little Herb. The
album is on the way. I'm thinking about just coming
in the fall, like right now for the remaining of
the summer. I'm like, you know, you about to push
this record. I'm gonna push this record right first. This
is a great like you know what I'm saying, one
or two Motor, just keep the momentum going that I
feel like on how that you know what I'm saying,
that entity to just feed off of what I'm doing

(35:56):
right now and roll them the mom single for the
album out, and I really like the thing is I've
been taking my time with this project. Was like it's
I feel like it's gonna really be like that big,
big project for me, and it's my last one under
the label, so I gotta pop it where it's like,

(36:17):
you know what I'm saying, you got them first good record. Yeah,
when they come back and you know what I'm saying,
when it when it's time to negotiate, you know what
I'm saying, everything gonna be everything for show show, Like
that's what I'm focused on, Like I'm really focused on,
like I'm in the NBA trying to get the super
Max Like that's my mindset right now. But bro, I
ain't gonna lie. I'm just super blessed and humble that

(36:38):
this record is doing what it's doing.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You're gonna get some support for sure.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
It's crazy like even like the feeling that I get
at my shows performing it, like I haven't got that
feeling and probably ever for really this is probably like
I know I have big records, but I feel like
right now like and from how it's starting to where
it's gonna go, there's probably be like my biggest record
like ever for sure.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Now before we get out of here, we got something
called the mental health check in one time for the
Faith Project Keisha, What up? What does g Herbo do
when he's having a bad day if you call it
a bad day?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
What I do when I'm having a bad day is
I listen to music some of my favorite songs that
get me in a mood to like think, you know
what I'm saying, Like not most times when people are
having a bad day, it's for whatever reason and you
need to like think about or find what it is

(37:35):
that you like that it's going to like auto your
mood to be able to especially for me, because every
day I have to do something like for every day
some new shit for real, really, I gotta do something,
whether it's be on my kids, whether it's working, whether
it's this, whether it's that. So I try to like
play music, not even my music, just like some of
my favorite songs to give me in a certain mood.

(37:59):
If I'm away from home, I call my kids on
FaceTime Like that's I could talk to my kids and
be my kids and I snap out of anything. You
feel what I'm saying, So that works for me a lot, definitely.
I hang on a live bro. I don't know, it's weird,
like like I like to eat like im I ain't

(38:20):
no wrong when I'm not feeling good, Like I would
go take myself out to eat by myself type shit.
It's like it makes me feel just love food. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah with my security for show. For sure.
I don't even go nowhere without security. No more bro
play like that for sure for sure. But I do that.
I like to like I like to go to restaurants

(38:40):
with my kids and my girl too though, Like I
do that. You feel what I'm saying. And in the
neighborhood that I do live in in la is super
super nice. So I would go to a restaurant somewhere
around now. I don't really need security. It's cool, like
it's sixty year old white ladies and know who you
aren't even pay attention, bro, like at all, So like
I like to do stuff like that. And another thing, bro,

(39:06):
I try to, like especially when I'm feeling emotions. When
I'm really feeling the emotions, I just try to go
to the studio and let it out. If I could
put it into a song, that helps me a lot too.
You feel what I'm saying because I feel like I
was able to release and if I was able to
put it into somewhere it like like transfer over to

(39:26):
you know, some relatable for my fans. You feel what
I'm saying because a lot of artists, like, don't get
me wrong, a lot of artists do like put their
life in perspective into songs. But if it's something like
especially the uncomfortable stuff, the stuff people don't really want
to rap about, that's the most relatable. I got to
a point in my career where it's like I don't
even hold it back no more. You feel me like
even if the song come out or don't come out,

(39:47):
at least I got it off my chest. So that's
that's what I do. Like when I'm having a bad day,
one of those things, either of those things like kind
of you know, probably I might not snap right back.
You know what I'm saying, but it get me to,
you know, closer to where I need to be mentally,
for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Well listen, man, we appreciate you spending some time with
us on the ball Alert Yeah, Revolt TV.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
G Herbal in the building. Any shout outs Brother.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Man shouts out to Baby Crash Man, Well, Baby Crash
got that single coming out. Man hit the road. You
feel what I'm saying. Shouts out to y'all. Shout out
ball Alert Man. It's keeping his little Herbert album on way.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Hey, Hey, we got out of town.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Big run, Yes sir, Yeah, Baller showing the Revolt Peace
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