February 19, 2025 • 26 mins
Europe Moves Away from Free Speech More & More also DOGE Finds $4.7TRILL in Untraceable Payments
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with
you and Senator The state of free speech is something
that has not been talked about a lot lately because
we had this big victory here with Donald Trump and
conservatives in charge. But we are seeing an insane crackdown
on free speech in Europe right now and it is
a very concerning moment.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It is indeed, and let me say, free speech is
a fundamental liberty. There's a reason is protected in the
First Amendment to the Constitution. And on this podcast we
have covered the assault on free speech in the United Kingdom. Sadly,
it is not just the UK, it is all of Europe,
it is the United States. It is a global assault
on free speech. But tonight we're going to break down
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Number one. Jd Vance. He gave an incredible speech in
Europe that I think really was important. It was calling
out Europe for its abandonment of the values of free
speech and how much of Europe has given up on
those values. Secondly, we're going to talk about dose elon Musk,
diving into the incredible waste and abuse we see in
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our federal government and in particular over four trillion dollars
in federal payments that are unaccountable that we cannot figure
out where they went. We're going to break that down
as well.
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people that are listening and they're going to say, why
are we talking about.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Free speech in Europe. Let's talk about America.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
This is a I think a flashpoint and a warning
point that we could be where Europe is if it
wasn't for one election and this last one of the
one I'm talking about, and that was part of the
reason why I think jd Vance was so blunt in
his speech in Europe about what they're doing to crack
down on people just expressing their opinions.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, listen off. In Europe and the United States flow
on similar trend lines. You look at in the nineteen eighties,
ron O Reagan became president, Margaret Thatcher became president. You
look at after that, you had George Herbert Walker Bush,
and then you had John Major. You look at Bill
Clinton and Tony Blair. There are similar trend lines between
the United States and Europe, and those trend lines are
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interwoven when it comes to fundamental liberties under the United
States Constitution, the First Amendment, you've got religious liberty and
free speech, and those are the two fundamental rights upon
which all of our other liberties are built. And one
of the most distressing things you look back, even five
ten years ago, the left defended free speech. The left
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believed in free speech. As I look at today's Democrats,
one of the things that scares me the most is
the left has abandoned free speech. They've decided if you
don't say what we agree with, we will silence you,
we will cancel you, we will use big tech to
muzzle you, we will use the power of government to
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fire you, to oppress you, and even to incarcerate you. Now,
the last piece may seem extreme. You might say, Okay, look,
we don't live in a world where you get locked
up for what you say. Well, you know what, much
like the Canarian the coal Mine, Europe is a precursor
to where America is heading. And if you look at Europe,
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we have seen an assault on free speech that is terrifying. Now,
on this podcast, you and I have talked about in
the United Kingdom, in particular the efforts to prosecute those
who tweet things that are deemed unacceptable, those who speak out,
those who speak out against the epidemic of child rape.
Child rape we see from Pakistani Muslims engage in rape gangs,
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raping not just hundreds, but thousands of children. And yet
in the UK for years, for decades, there was a
culture of repression and on the unwillingness of the political
environment to talk about it. Now, I will say, we
saw JD. Vans, my friend the Vice President, go to
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Europe this past week and give a speech that I
think is really important. It shocked Europe. He was at
the Munich Security Conference, which I've been to before. It's
a conference that many of the nations of Europe go
to the United States go to. They're typically roughly a
dozen to twenty US senators to go to. And he
gave a speech normally a government officially supposed to give
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a speech about how America and Europe were on the
same side. We're all standing together. Rah rah rah JD.
I'm proud of him. The speech he gave, he called
out Europe for their willingness to violate free speech. I
why don't you give a listen to this excerpt from
JD's speech.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes
not so clear what happened to some of the Cold
Wars winners. I looked to Brussels, where EU Commission commissars
warrened citizens that they intend to shut down social media
during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what
they've judged to be quote, hateful content. Or to this
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very country where police have carried out raids against citizens
suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as part of
quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day of action.
I looked to Sweden. We're two weeks ago the government
convicted a Christian activist for participating in Kuran burnings that
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resulted in his friend's murder, and as the judge in
his case chillingly noted, Sweden's laws to supp pposedly protect
free expression do not in fact grant and I'm quoting
a free pass to do or say anything without risking
offending the group that holds that belief. And perhaps most concerningly,
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I look to our very dear friends, the United Kingdom,
where the backslide away from conscience rights has placed the
basic liberties of religious Britons in particular in the crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
A little over two years ago.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
The British government charged Adam Smith Conner, a fifty one
year old physiotherapist and an Army veteran, with the heinous
crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and
silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting
with anyone, just silently praying on his own. After British
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law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he
was praying for, Adam replied simply, it was on behalf
of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend had
aboarded years before.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now, the officers were not moved.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer
zones law, which criminalized as silent prayer and other actions
that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters
of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands
of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution. Now, I
wish I could say that this was a fluke, a
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one off, crazy example of a badly written law. Being
enacted against a single person. But no this last October,
just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing
letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe
access zones, warning them that even private prayer within their
own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the
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government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty
of thought crime. In Britain and across Europe, free speech,
I fear is in retreat.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Not only did he just call them out to their face,
he told the world what each one of these countries did.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yes, yes, yes, Amen, Listen when it comes to what
fundamentally matters if we want to stay free, religious liberty
is fundamental and free speech is fundamental. JD talked about
how in the United Kingdom, silently praying has now been
deemed a criminal offense. It is difficult to find a
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more staggering affront to individual liberty than that. And listen,
I think we have an obligation to stand up and
speak out. You know, Ben, I've talked about how Heidi
and I were a mixed marriage. What do I mean
by that? Heidi is a Francophile. I'm an angli phile.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Heidi loves Paris.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's our favorite city on plunder Earth. I love the Brits.
I love the United Kingdom. I love the incredible innovation,
the incredible leadership of the Brits. So we're different and
I appreciate it. I a p preach to the French,
but the beauty of a marriage as you combine both.
It breaks my heart to see the Brits abandoning free speech.
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And the Brits are not alone, it's all of Europe.
I want you to listen to this. This is from
sixty minutes this past Sunday. This is a group of
German prosecutors discussing German law about free speech. I got
to say this clip horrified me, fundamental.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Give a listen.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Is it a crime to insult somebody in public?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
The fine could be even higher if you insult someone
in the Internet. Why because in Internet it stays there.
If we are talking you face to face, you insult
me and sold you okay, finish. But if you in
the internet, if I insiled you or a politician.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
That ticks around forever, yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
The prosecutors explain German law also prohibits the spread malicious gossip,
violent threats, and fake quotes. If somebody posts something that's
not true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it,
are they committing a crime.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
And the case of reposting it as a crime as well,
because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or
just reposted it.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
That's the same for us.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail
time for repeat offenders.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I mean, I love how they say if you post
something and notice the question there from sixty minutes about politicians,
So you're on the other side, right, it's a divided country.
You post something about somebody that you disagree with, they
can now use that to lock you up, is what
they're saying. And the prosecutor's like, yes, yes, that's exactly
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what we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Now. This is the government saying, if you dare say
something we disagree with, we will lock you up. So
I sent two tweets in the last twenty four hours,
one retweeting this exchange. I said, this is not the
first time the Germans have threatened to arrest you if
you say something that the government doesn't like, and then
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number two, I retweeted the same exchange, but I said,
so if someone called these guys quote goose stepping Nazis
for gleefully enforcing totalitarian speech codes, that would be deemed
a crime in Germany, I got to say on both
of those. And by the way, I literally wondered, when
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I'm typing in these tweets. Listen, I'm a sitting senator
from the Great State of Texas in the US Senate.
As I'm typing in these tweets, I wondered, Gosh, if
I visit Germany a year from now, will these bastards
try to arrest me because I sent a tweet? And
you know what, fine, if they do it, let's go.
But let me say, how messed up is that that
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If I'm sitting on my phone saying, you're threatening to
lock people up for saying things your government doesn't like
and people are afraid. Okay, I cannot disagree with the
totalitarian government. That's frightening. What has happened to Europe when
free speech is speech? That terrifying to the European government
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that they're willing to imprison you for disagreeing with the
orthodoxy of their beliefs.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, Adolf Hitler would be proud.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Let's be honest if this, because this is exactly what
he did to people that disagreed with him.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He would lock them up.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
By the way, if you travel to Germany and get arrested,
I'm going to send you a cake with a file
in it to chisel through the bars so you're at
my back. But listen what you said. Adolf Hitler would
be proud. Germany has a little bit of PTSD coming
out of World War Two. And listen, the Germans they
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don't like being the bad guys of history. And I
get Listen, I'm not German, but I get if you're
a modern German and you're kind of like, wait, our
people were like, we're literally the Nazis. I get that
that would be traumatizing, that that would make you upset,
Like what wait, you know, when's the last time you
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saw a movie where the Nazis were the good guys.
They're incredibly nervous about that, but they've swung so far
to the other direction, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I remember, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It was in high school. I wrote a paper on
how left and right in politics is not a straight line.
It's not left on one side, right on the other.
It's rather a circle where the extreme left and the
extreme right intersect. They're both willing to interfere with individual
liberty because of their radical ideology. This is a great example.
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I get if you're a German, you don't want to
recreate the path of the Nazis. But you know what,
if your government is willing to arrest someone for saying
something thing you disagree with, guess what you're recreating the
path of the Nazis.
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finally accountability to it.
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You look at the four point seven trillion. Is this
done on purpose? For this exact reason? If you don't
know where the money's going, you can't trace the money,
then you can't ask questions.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Oh look, yes, and no. I had an old boss
of mine, my very first boss, who said this was
actually quite profound. He said, never blame on malice what
can be explained with incompetence. Look, that explains a lot
of government. There is massive waste, there is massive politicization
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and weaponization. If you're spending your own money, you care
about it, Ben you care about your own money. If
you're spending someone else's money, you don't care about it.
And that problem in government is there's a culture of
endemic waste that is enormously problematic, and you combine that
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with a politicization that there's a it doesn't matter I'm
spending someone else's money, I don't care, and I'm going
to spend it to promote transgender witches in some far
off country. That's what we've seen and that's what Trump
and Elon are exposing.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You talk about what all they're exposing Outside the four
point seven trillion in payments that we can't trace, let's
talk about illegal immigrants receiving benefits and the media. By
the way, they're going to defend everything they can, even
if it's indefensible.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
A great example of that, man, And let me ask
you this, is there one Democrat you know who has
criticized one single example of massive waste, abuse and fraud.
And by the way, by Democrat. I don't mean James Carve.
We talked about that two days ago. I don't mean
a consultant. I mean one elected Democrat. I can tell
you in the US Senate, I don't know of a
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single one, do you.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, not a single one.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
And you would think at some point they could, they
would come out and go, yeah, this is good for Americans,
it's good for my district. It's good for the taxpayers
that represent that. We're not going to spend money on X,
Y or Z. None of these egregious items that we've
listed on the show, and we've done a really good
job of keeping people up to date.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We're where the money's going.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
None of them have been criticized by the Democrats and
in the media. Again, they are just hell bent on
saying Donald Trump bad, Elon Musk bad, Doge bad.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Here's a great example.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Listen to this exchange with Stephen Miller, because it is
it is hysterical. By the way, tonight, I saw Steven.
I was at a party, so Howard Luddick was just
confirmed as Commerce Secretary. He had a party in his house.
I saw Stephen this evening and I told him, great job.
On CNN listen to this exchange, because she really is.
It's nutty. And I gotta say, CNN has become a
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clown show. It's not even it's not even real journalism.
It's just silly. But listen to this back and.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Forth you mentioned yesterday and you mentioned again here, uh,
illegal immigrants who are getting child tax credits? If are
you looking for that information in the I R S data?
Speaker 9 (22:21):
Anytime a crime is committed, of course there should be
an investigation.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Is it your position that.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Of somebody who is in the data, the federal government
will find every illegal alien who is stealing American tax
pair of dollars? And that's what Americans.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Find that in the I don't even that. It's a
simple question, man. And you find that information in the
IRS data and share.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
That with lawn IRS investigators find illegal aliens stealing tax
payer money, of course I'll be referred to ICE. Of course,
It'll be referred to Homeland security investigations.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Of course it will be.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Surely, your position is not that we should let illegal
aliens steal taxpayer dollars. You want to talk about something
to be upset about, that's it. What do you think
the millions of illegal aliens who have also stolen social security.
Illegal aliens in mass have fake social Security numbers, they
have fake identities.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Those are felonies.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
Why should there be an entire class in this country
that is immunized from criminal prosecution and arrest for committing
felonies felony, theft of taxpayer information, felony, theft of social security, felony,
theft of identity. These are all crimes. And yes they
will be investigated, Yes they'll be prosecuted, and yes he
will be deported. And you know what deportations. Americans will
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get jobs, Americans will Americans will get housing.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Even if they got a child, if they got a credit,
a child tax credit, and they will be referred. You're
saying to Ice for that, and you would expect imported
for that?
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Is that the position of the administration.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
If it is found that a crime has been committed,
they be referred. If it is justifies the prosecution, they'll
be prosecuted. If it justifies a deportation, they will be deported.
This will be based on existing IRIS protocols and procedures
for criminal investigation and fraud.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
All right.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
The difference is that no one is given immunity anymore.
No one is given permission to break the law anymore,
because this is not a country, this is not a
sovereign territory. If illegal aliens can freely steal billions with
a b billions of taxpayer dollars, and I would have
to imagine that that CNN, which is endlessly talked about
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the importance of democracy and the rule of law, would
say that no class in this country should be above
the law, least of all illegal aliens who've trespassed on
our territory.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Stephen, I'm just asking. I wanted to get your position
on some things this. We're not taking a position here.
We wanted to get some answers to some questions. There
are so many questions that need to.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
Be able in fact, indifferent or unbiased on these questions.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
But thank you, Stephen Miller, Thank you so much much
for your time. Really appreciate it. And we'll be right
by here.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's just like, oh, we don't take positions here, and
I love I grids. He grins and laughs in her face,
like are you kidding me? Everybody watching right now knows
exactly what you're doing, and you're trying to act like
we're doing something wrong when in fact we're saving taxpayers dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
What Miller is saying is exactly right. The federal government
should enforce the law. If you have illegal aliens who
are stealing from the taxpayers, they should be prosecuted. And
the bizarre position CNN is taking is, well, if the
IRS knows that you're illegally stealing from the taxpayers, the
IRS shouldn't tell that to the rest of the federal government.
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You should protect the illegal aliens who are stealing from
the taxpayers. That's a weird proposition. Why is the IRS
separate from dj separate from DHS, separate from ICE, separate
from all of the different federal agencies. And CNN is
so vested in saying, we want millions of illegal aliens
here and we want there to be no consequences. So
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their continuing to engage in fraud, to work illegally, to
draw so security payments, to draw government payments fraudulently, that
is CNN's position. And I got to say, I'm going
to credit Steven Miller for calling out CNN for they're
not engaged in news. They have a position on this.
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They don't want the law enforced, and I gotta say
I think the American people do.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
We're going to keep covering this issue and watch the
money for you because these are the moments that we
have to just say, Hey, here's the choice. Do you
want illegal immigrants having all this money or do you
want to save this money when they're breaking the law.
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Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with
you and Senator The state of free speech is something
that has not been talked about a lot lately because
we had this big victory here with Donald Trump and
conservatives in charge. But we are seeing an insane crackdown
on free speech in Europe right now and it is
a very concerning moment.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It is indeed, and let me say, free speech is
a fundamental liberty. There's a reason is protected in the
First Amendment to the Constitution. And on this podcast we
have covered the assault on free speech in the United Kingdom. Sadly,
it is not just the UK, it is all of Europe,
it is the United States. It is a global assault
on free speech. But tonight we're going to break down
(00:46):
Number one. Jd Vance. He gave an incredible speech in
Europe that I think really was important. It was calling
out Europe for its abandonment of the values of free
speech and how much of Europe has given up on
those values. Secondly, we're going to talk about dose elon Musk,
diving into the incredible waste and abuse we see in
(01:07):
our federal government and in particular over four trillion dollars
in federal payments that are unaccountable that we cannot figure
out where they went. We're going to break that down
as well.
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people that are listening and they're going to say, why
are we talking about.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Free speech in Europe. Let's talk about America.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
This is a I think a flashpoint and a warning
point that we could be where Europe is if it
wasn't for one election and this last one of the
one I'm talking about, and that was part of the
reason why I think jd Vance was so blunt in
his speech in Europe about what they're doing to crack
down on people just expressing their opinions.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, listen off. In Europe and the United States flow
on similar trend lines. You look at in the nineteen eighties,
ron O Reagan became president, Margaret Thatcher became president. You
look at after that, you had George Herbert Walker Bush,
and then you had John Major. You look at Bill
Clinton and Tony Blair. There are similar trend lines between
the United States and Europe, and those trend lines are
(03:38):
interwoven when it comes to fundamental liberties under the United
States Constitution, the First Amendment, you've got religious liberty and
free speech, and those are the two fundamental rights upon
which all of our other liberties are built. And one
of the most distressing things you look back, even five
ten years ago, the left defended free speech. The left
(04:01):
believed in free speech. As I look at today's Democrats,
one of the things that scares me the most is
the left has abandoned free speech. They've decided if you
don't say what we agree with, we will silence you,
we will cancel you, we will use big tech to
muzzle you, we will use the power of government to
(04:22):
fire you, to oppress you, and even to incarcerate you. Now,
the last piece may seem extreme. You might say, Okay, look,
we don't live in a world where you get locked
up for what you say. Well, you know what, much
like the Canarian the coal Mine, Europe is a precursor
to where America is heading. And if you look at Europe,
(04:43):
we have seen an assault on free speech that is terrifying. Now,
on this podcast, you and I have talked about in
the United Kingdom, in particular the efforts to prosecute those
who tweet things that are deemed unacceptable, those who speak out,
those who speak out against the epidemic of child rape.
Child rape we see from Pakistani Muslims engage in rape gangs,
(05:07):
raping not just hundreds, but thousands of children. And yet
in the UK for years, for decades, there was a
culture of repression and on the unwillingness of the political
environment to talk about it. Now, I will say, we
saw JD. Vans, my friend the Vice President, go to
(05:27):
Europe this past week and give a speech that I
think is really important. It shocked Europe. He was at
the Munich Security Conference, which I've been to before. It's
a conference that many of the nations of Europe go
to the United States go to. They're typically roughly a
dozen to twenty US senators to go to. And he
gave a speech normally a government officially supposed to give
(05:50):
a speech about how America and Europe were on the
same side. We're all standing together. Rah rah rah JD.
I'm proud of him. The speech he gave, he called
out Europe for their willingness to violate free speech. I
why don't you give a listen to this excerpt from
JD's speech.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes
not so clear what happened to some of the Cold
Wars winners. I looked to Brussels, where EU Commission commissars
warrened citizens that they intend to shut down social media
during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what
they've judged to be quote, hateful content. Or to this
(06:31):
very country where police have carried out raids against citizens
suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as part of
quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day of action.
I looked to Sweden. We're two weeks ago the government
convicted a Christian activist for participating in Kuran burnings that
(06:52):
resulted in his friend's murder, and as the judge in
his case chillingly noted, Sweden's laws to supp pposedly protect
free expression do not in fact grant and I'm quoting
a free pass to do or say anything without risking
offending the group that holds that belief. And perhaps most concerningly,
(07:15):
I look to our very dear friends, the United Kingdom,
where the backslide away from conscience rights has placed the
basic liberties of religious Britons in particular in the crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
A little over two years ago.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
The British government charged Adam Smith Conner, a fifty one
year old physiotherapist and an Army veteran, with the heinous
crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and
silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting
with anyone, just silently praying on his own. After British
(07:50):
law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he
was praying for, Adam replied simply, it was on behalf
of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend had
aboarded years before.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now, the officers were not moved.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer
zones law, which criminalized as silent prayer and other actions
that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters
of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands
of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution. Now, I
wish I could say that this was a fluke, a
(08:24):
one off, crazy example of a badly written law. Being
enacted against a single person. But no this last October,
just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing
letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe
access zones, warning them that even private prayer within their
own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the
(08:47):
government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty
of thought crime. In Britain and across Europe, free speech,
I fear is in retreat.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Not only did he just call them out to their face,
he told the world what each one of these countries did.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yes, yes, yes, Amen, Listen when it comes to what
fundamentally matters if we want to stay free, religious liberty
is fundamental and free speech is fundamental. JD talked about
how in the United Kingdom, silently praying has now been
deemed a criminal offense. It is difficult to find a
(09:28):
more staggering affront to individual liberty than that. And listen,
I think we have an obligation to stand up and
speak out. You know, Ben, I've talked about how Heidi
and I were a mixed marriage. What do I mean
by that? Heidi is a Francophile. I'm an angli phile.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Heidi loves Paris.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's our favorite city on plunder Earth. I love the Brits.
I love the United Kingdom. I love the incredible innovation,
the incredible leadership of the Brits. So we're different and
I appreciate it. I a p preach to the French,
but the beauty of a marriage as you combine both.
It breaks my heart to see the Brits abandoning free speech.
(10:09):
And the Brits are not alone, it's all of Europe.
I want you to listen to this. This is from
sixty minutes this past Sunday. This is a group of
German prosecutors discussing German law about free speech. I got
to say this clip horrified me, fundamental.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Give a listen.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Is it a crime to insult somebody in public?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
The fine could be even higher if you insult someone
in the Internet. Why because in Internet it stays there.
If we are talking you face to face, you insult
me and sold you okay, finish. But if you in
the internet, if I insiled you or a politician.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
That ticks around forever, yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
The prosecutors explain German law also prohibits the spread malicious gossip,
violent threats, and fake quotes. If somebody posts something that's
not true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it,
are they committing a crime.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
And the case of reposting it as a crime as well,
because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or
just reposted it.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
That's the same for us.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail
time for repeat offenders.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I mean, I love how they say if you post
something and notice the question there from sixty minutes about politicians,
So you're on the other side, right, it's a divided country.
You post something about somebody that you disagree with, they
can now use that to lock you up, is what
they're saying. And the prosecutor's like, yes, yes, that's exactly
(11:49):
what we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Now. This is the government saying, if you dare say
something we disagree with, we will lock you up. So
I sent two tweets in the last twenty four hours,
one retweeting this exchange. I said, this is not the
first time the Germans have threatened to arrest you if
you say something that the government doesn't like, and then
(12:13):
number two, I retweeted the same exchange, but I said,
so if someone called these guys quote goose stepping Nazis
for gleefully enforcing totalitarian speech codes, that would be deemed
a crime in Germany, I got to say on both
of those. And by the way, I literally wondered, when
(12:35):
I'm typing in these tweets. Listen, I'm a sitting senator
from the Great State of Texas in the US Senate.
As I'm typing in these tweets, I wondered, Gosh, if
I visit Germany a year from now, will these bastards
try to arrest me because I sent a tweet? And
you know what, fine, if they do it, let's go.
But let me say, how messed up is that that
(12:58):
If I'm sitting on my phone saying, you're threatening to
lock people up for saying things your government doesn't like
and people are afraid. Okay, I cannot disagree with the
totalitarian government. That's frightening. What has happened to Europe when
free speech is speech? That terrifying to the European government
(13:20):
that they're willing to imprison you for disagreeing with the
orthodoxy of their beliefs.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, Adolf Hitler would be proud.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Let's be honest if this, because this is exactly what
he did to people that disagreed with him.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He would lock them up.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
By the way, if you travel to Germany and get arrested,
I'm going to send you a cake with a file
in it to chisel through the bars so you're at
my back. But listen what you said. Adolf Hitler would
be proud. Germany has a little bit of PTSD coming
out of World War Two. And listen, the Germans they
(13:55):
don't like being the bad guys of history. And I
get Listen, I'm not German, but I get if you're
a modern German and you're kind of like, wait, our
people were like, we're literally the Nazis. I get that
that would be traumatizing, that that would make you upset,
Like what wait, you know, when's the last time you
(14:15):
saw a movie where the Nazis were the good guys.
They're incredibly nervous about that, but they've swung so far
to the other direction, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I remember, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It was in high school. I wrote a paper on
how left and right in politics is not a straight line.
It's not left on one side, right on the other.
It's rather a circle where the extreme left and the
extreme right intersect. They're both willing to interfere with individual
liberty because of their radical ideology. This is a great example.
(14:49):
I get if you're a German, you don't want to
recreate the path of the Nazis. But you know what,
if your government is willing to arrest someone for saying
something thing you disagree with, guess what you're recreating the
path of the Nazis.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
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it's just mind blowing at this point how much money
is being uncovered that is involved in waste, fraud, and
abuse within our government. And then there's this new headline
that came out of the White House, and that is
a bombshell that there has been four point seven trillion
dollars that has been spent that is untraceable in the
(17:25):
way that the payments went out from the Treasury Department.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Explain that to America.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Well, let me read from our article in Fox News
does says it found nearly untraceable budget line atems responsible
for four point seven trillion in payments. The Trump administration's
DOGE discovered an identification code linking US Treasury payments to
a budget line at THEM, which accounts for nearly four
(17:52):
point seven trillion dollars in payments which was oftentimes left blank.
The Treasury Exit symbol TAS is an identification code linking
a Treasury payment to a budget line at HIM standard
financial process. Doze wrote in posts on x in the
federal government, the TAS field was optional for four point
(18:15):
seven trillion dollars in payments and was often left blank,
making traceability almost impossible. As of Saturday, this is now
a required field increasing insight into where money is actually going.
So understand four point seven trillion dollars. Listen, A million
(18:36):
dollars is a lot of money. A billion dollars is
a crap ton more, it's actually a thousand times more.
A trillion dollars is a thousand thousand times more than
a million dollars, And four point seven trillion is even
in federal government spending a massive amount. The point here
(18:57):
is the money that has been coming from the federal
government has been massively wasted, and there has been no accountability,
and the entire governmental system is reacting in pain and
horror and agony that Donald Trump and Elon Musker bringing
finally accountability to it.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You look at the four point seven trillion. Is this
done on purpose? For this exact reason? If you don't
know where the money's going, you can't trace the money,
then you can't ask questions.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Oh look, yes, and no. I had an old boss
of mine, my very first boss, who said this was
actually quite profound. He said, never blame on malice what
can be explained with incompetence. Look, that explains a lot
of government. There is massive waste, there is massive politicization
(19:49):
and weaponization. If you're spending your own money, you care
about it, Ben you care about your own money. If
you're spending someone else's money, you don't care about it.
And that problem in government is there's a culture of
endemic waste that is enormously problematic, and you combine that
(20:09):
with a politicization that there's a it doesn't matter I'm
spending someone else's money, I don't care, and I'm going
to spend it to promote transgender witches in some far
off country. That's what we've seen and that's what Trump
and Elon are exposing.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You talk about what all they're exposing Outside the four
point seven trillion in payments that we can't trace, let's
talk about illegal immigrants receiving benefits and the media. By
the way, they're going to defend everything they can, even
if it's indefensible.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
A great example of that, man, And let me ask
you this, is there one Democrat you know who has
criticized one single example of massive waste, abuse and fraud.
And by the way, by Democrat. I don't mean James Carve.
We talked about that two days ago. I don't mean
a consultant. I mean one elected Democrat. I can tell
you in the US Senate, I don't know of a
(21:07):
single one, do you.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, not a single one.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
And you would think at some point they could, they
would come out and go, yeah, this is good for Americans,
it's good for my district. It's good for the taxpayers
that represent that. We're not going to spend money on X,
Y or Z. None of these egregious items that we've
listed on the show, and we've done a really good
job of keeping people up to date.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We're where the money's going.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
None of them have been criticized by the Democrats and
in the media. Again, they are just hell bent on
saying Donald Trump bad, Elon Musk bad, Doge bad.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Here's a great example.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Listen to this exchange with Stephen Miller, because it is
it is hysterical. By the way, tonight, I saw Steven.
I was at a party, so Howard Luddick was just
confirmed as Commerce Secretary. He had a party in his house.
I saw Stephen this evening and I told him, great job.
On CNN listen to this exchange, because she really is.
It's nutty. And I gotta say, CNN has become a
(22:01):
clown show. It's not even it's not even real journalism.
It's just silly. But listen to this back and.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Forth you mentioned yesterday and you mentioned again here, uh,
illegal immigrants who are getting child tax credits? If are
you looking for that information in the I R S data?
Speaker 9 (22:21):
Anytime a crime is committed, of course there should be
an investigation.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Is it your position that.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Of somebody who is in the data, the federal government
will find every illegal alien who is stealing American tax
pair of dollars? And that's what Americans.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Find that in the I don't even that. It's a
simple question, man. And you find that information in the
IRS data and share.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
That with lawn IRS investigators find illegal aliens stealing tax
payer money, of course I'll be referred to ICE. Of course,
It'll be referred to Homeland security investigations.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Of course it will be.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Surely, your position is not that we should let illegal
aliens steal taxpayer dollars. You want to talk about something
to be upset about, that's it. What do you think
the millions of illegal aliens who have also stolen social security.
Illegal aliens in mass have fake social Security numbers, they
have fake identities.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Those are felonies.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
Why should there be an entire class in this country
that is immunized from criminal prosecution and arrest for committing
felonies felony, theft of taxpayer information, felony, theft of social security, felony,
theft of identity. These are all crimes. And yes they
will be investigated, Yes they'll be prosecuted, and yes he
will be deported. And you know what deportations. Americans will
(23:40):
get jobs, Americans will Americans will get housing.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Even if they got a child, if they got a credit,
a child tax credit, and they will be referred. You're
saying to Ice for that, and you would expect imported
for that?
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Is that the position of the administration.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
If it is found that a crime has been committed,
they be referred. If it is justifies the prosecution, they'll
be prosecuted. If it justifies a deportation, they will be deported.
This will be based on existing IRIS protocols and procedures
for criminal investigation and fraud.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
All right.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
The difference is that no one is given immunity anymore.
No one is given permission to break the law anymore,
because this is not a country, this is not a
sovereign territory. If illegal aliens can freely steal billions with
a b billions of taxpayer dollars, and I would have
to imagine that that CNN, which is endlessly talked about
(24:35):
the importance of democracy and the rule of law, would
say that no class in this country should be above
the law, least of all illegal aliens who've trespassed on
our territory.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Stephen, I'm just asking. I wanted to get your position
on some things this. We're not taking a position here.
We wanted to get some answers to some questions. There
are so many questions that need to.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
Be able in fact, indifferent or unbiased on these questions.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
But thank you, Stephen Miller, Thank you so much much
for your time. Really appreciate it. And we'll be right
by here.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's just like, oh, we don't take positions here, and
I love I grids. He grins and laughs in her face,
like are you kidding me? Everybody watching right now knows
exactly what you're doing, and you're trying to act like
we're doing something wrong when in fact we're saving taxpayers dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
What Miller is saying is exactly right. The federal government
should enforce the law. If you have illegal aliens who
are stealing from the taxpayers, they should be prosecuted. And
the bizarre position CNN is taking is, well, if the
IRS knows that you're illegally stealing from the taxpayers, the
IRS shouldn't tell that to the rest of the federal government.
(25:39):
You should protect the illegal aliens who are stealing from
the taxpayers. That's a weird proposition. Why is the IRS
separate from dj separate from DHS, separate from ICE, separate
from all of the different federal agencies. And CNN is
so vested in saying, we want millions of illegal aliens
here and we want there to be no consequences. So
(26:01):
their continuing to engage in fraud, to work illegally, to
draw so security payments, to draw government payments fraudulently, that
is CNN's position. And I got to say, I'm going
to credit Steven Miller for calling out CNN for they're
not engaged in news. They have a position on this.
(26:22):
They don't want the law enforced, and I gotta say
I think the American people do.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
We're going to keep covering this issue and watch the
money for you because these are the moments that we
have to just say, Hey, here's the choice. Do you
want illegal immigrants having all this money or do you
want to save this money when they're breaking the law.
Don't forget we do this show Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
Hit that subscriber auto download button, grab my show, The
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