November 17, 2025 • 13 mins
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Jeffrey Epstein Controversy and Political Weaponization
- The document argues that Democrats and mainstream media are using the Epstein scandal as a political tool to damage Donald Trump’s presidency.
- It claims the media ignored Epstein’s victims for years and only revived interest to create a “hoax” similar to the Russia collusion narrative.
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Alleged Epstein-Democrat Connection
- Newly released documents reportedly show Epstein texting Democratic Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett during the 2019 Michael Cohen hearing.
- The texts suggest Epstein was actively trying to influence proceedings against Trump.
- The narrative emphasizes that Democrats were “working with Epstein” rather than investigating him.
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Trump’s Response
- Trump dismisses the Epstein focus as “fake news” and a diversion from his administration’s successes.
- He has ordered the DOJ to investigate Epstein’s ties to political figures, including prominent Democrats and donors like Bill Clinton.
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Media and Public Perception
- The podcast accuses media outlets of selective reporting and misleading the public.
- It notes that even CNN admitted there are no verified allegations linking Trump to Epstein in public records.
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Congressional Action
- Mentions bipartisan efforts to release Epstein-related files, led by Rep. Ro Khanna and Rep. Thomas Massie.
- Khanna frames the push as a fight for justice for victims, while the author portrays it as a political maneuver to undermine Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
About the Epstein host.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
What happens is you're not talking about how well we've done,
mister Fred.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
That's the whole purpose behind them. They want to waste
people's time, and some of the don't member Republic gets
like that.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Good Monday morning, sir, nice have you with us on
the forty seven Morning Update, And we've got a major
story for you, but a couple of different perspectives on it.
It deals with Jeffrey Epstein, the Epstein files, and why
Democrats all of a sudden, out of nowhere claim they
actually care about the victims, and how there's nothing that's
tying Jeffrey Epstein to Donald Trump in any way. The
(00:40):
media they don't want you to know that. But before
we get to that, I want to talk to you
about my friends at Kurt Elliott Precious Metals. Two days ago,
I got my new order of silver. Now I'm investing
in silver right now because the pricing on it is
amazing and the upside well it's real and I wasn't
paying math up charges on quote. Rare are special coins
(01:03):
and then when you go to sell them, you take
away all of your earning potential. Why do they do
it this way at Kurt Elliott because they have transparent
pricing up front. It's very simple. You pay eight percent
when you buy, and here's what matters to you the most,
nothing when you sell. There are no hidden fees ever
(01:24):
with Kurt Elliott Precious Metals. This is the reason why
I recommend them. It's not just about investing, it's about
making sure you get more for your money. And that
is exactly why Kurt Elliott helps people all the time.
Whether it's gold or silver, you can hold it, be
a good steward of it, you can pass it on
to future generations, and you can build wealth with it.
(01:47):
It's real bullion, never gimmicks, just investment grade gold and silver.
No overpriced coins, no flashy markups. And it's a company
that I love because they are a faith driven company.
There's no pressure, just honest care. They treat every client
like family, offering honest answers up front to help you
(02:10):
make wise informed decisions. Now, if you're seeking a partner
when it comes to gold and silver with an eternity mindset,
visit k PM dot com slash ben that's k E.
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e PM dot com slash ben. It's the forty seven
Morning Update and it starts right now. Story number one,
Donald Trump fighting back on the Jeffrey Epstein media hoax.
(02:58):
Let me remind you, and the Democratic Party never gave
a damn about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. In fact,
they look the complete opposite direction. And now only now
are they obsessed over it because they think politically, somehow
this issue could hurt Donald Trump's presidency. In other words,
the media on the left they need another Russia collusion hoax.
(03:21):
They don't need it to be real, they don't need
it to be factual. They just need a good lie.
They can undermine President Trump by five or ten points
in polling and take away his political power. It's exactly
what they did to him in twenty sixteen. And now
we know a little bit more about how corrupt the
Democratic Party actually is when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
(03:43):
How do we know this? Because of a shocking story
that's not being reported on this week. We now know
that the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein texted with House
Democrats during a Michael Cohen hearing trying to hurt Donald Trump.
I want to give you a breakdown of what we know.
(04:04):
Documents released by Congress via the estate of Epstein and
his communications actually show and confirm that Epstein, while live,
was literally text messaging Democratic member of Congress during the hearing. Specifically,
according to the newly released documents from the Epstein estate,
(04:26):
during the February twenty nineteen hearing of Michael Cohen before
the House Oversite Committee. You may remember Michael Cohen is
the former lawyer for Donald Trump, and they were using
Michael Cohen to try to go after Donald Trump and
undermine him as we were rolling into the twenty twenty election.
So Michael Cohen is before the House Oversite Committee, and
what was Jeffrey Epstein doing. He was sending text messages
(04:49):
to Stacy Plaskett, a Democrat from virgin from the Virgin
Islands in real time. The messages indicated that he was
watching the hearing, pointing out that Cohen had mentioned ronand
Keeper of the Secrets, referring to Trump's former assistant, and
prompted that Plasket quick, I'm up next? Is that an
(05:11):
acronym now? Plasket's office acknowledged that she received messages from staff, constituents,
and the public at large, including from Epstein, during the hearing,
trying to downplay this to The Washington Post this week. Now,
additional release communications show Epstein frequently referenced Trump and his
(05:35):
emails and text messages with other associates. For example, in
twenty seventeen, Epstein claimed to be passing messages from Trump
to others. Meanwhile, there is a strong bipartisan momentum in
Congress to force the release some more documents related to Epstein.
Is what democrats want you to believe. Why do they
(05:56):
care now but not before now? For one reason, because
they want to try to find a way to hurt
Donald Trump. Donald Trump responding to this by saying this
as he was leaving dead back to the White House
from Florida. Fake news like you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You're a terrible reporter.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
As fake news like you. They just keep bringing that
up to deflect from the tremendous success of the Trump administration.
So a guy like Massey, his full numbers is showing he'
said six percent approval rating right now, and we call
him Ran Paul Junior because he never votes for the
Republican Party. So that using Jeffrey Epstein as a deflection
(06:36):
from the tremendous success that we're having as a party.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Donald Trump virtually saying the same thing he said about
the Russian hoax back in twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen,
and now Democrats are doing it again. But while Democrats
are playing checkers, Donald Trump seems to be playing chess
on this issue. We now know that he has ordered
the Department of Justice, at the request of the President,
to investigate Epstein's ties to political foes as the left
(07:04):
has described it, including many prominent Democrats and mega donors,
including former President Bill Clinton. Trump's team is strongly rejecting
the narrative that these documents are a Democratic led smear
against him. The White House says the release emails were
selectively leaked by Democrats for one reason, to give them
(07:27):
to the little liberal media and then have those somehow
hurt him or stain him. Trump himself has labeled the
Epstein fol focus of hoax and nothing but a diversion.
Now here's the other part that deals with facts. There
are no I want to make this clear, even ceing
in admitting this this week, there are no verified allegations
(07:49):
in the public records so far that a Democratic lawmaker
was collaborating with Epstein with the express purpose, they say,
of targeting Donald Trump, even though the text messages are
clear Epstein was targeting Donald Trump. But that's what the
media wants you to believe. The one confirmed tex exchange
with a Democratic congresswoman does, in fact show that Epstein
(08:10):
was text here during the hearing in real time and
making it clear he was trying to hurt Donald Trump.
We also know that the media has been forced to
correct themselves, making it clear, as I mentioned a moment ago,
that there are no verified allegations at all against President
Donald Trump with anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein, something
(08:32):
the media hopes you will forget. Why are they obsessed
with the issue. It's actually very simple. The Democratic Party
is obsessed with this issue because they want something to
undermine the president by two or three points. What happens
when that happens. It's a real simple thing. When that happens,
(08:53):
then the president has a harder time getting his agenda done.
Which brings me back to Representative Rocanna, a Democrat from California.
Rocanna went on Meet the Press and what he said
was is Donald Trump is losing his magabase over the
Epstein files. This goes back to exactly the political narrative
that they actually want. He sat down with Meet the
(09:15):
Press host Kristen Welker and she said, I want to
ask you a big question about a big issue that
deals with Jeffrey Epstein. So here we are. We have
a president of the United States of America, yet again
having to deal with another hoax. I believe most of
the Epstein files are going to come out, but as
you can hear from Rocana, he believes they're scoring points
(09:38):
to undermine Trump.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
You have been focused on pushing for the release of
the Jeffrey Epstein files. Your joint bill with Thomas Massey's
going to come to a vote on the House floor.
It's expected to this week. Do you think you have
enough votes.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
For it to pass? We do, And there's nothing I
have been a proud are more meaningful than this work.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
The Craig goes to the survivors.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
They're going to be at the Capitol on Tuesday in
a press conference. Massy, myself and Representative Green are doing
this was disgusting. Epstein had set up a rape island
where rich and powerful men were abusing young girls with impunity.
And there are thousands of victims, and rich and powerful
men still have buildings named after them, scholarships named after them.
(10:26):
This is not partisan. They all need to be held accountable.
The Epstein class needs to go.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
How many Republicans are going to join you? Could you
have a veto proof majority?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Well, I was hoping that, and then Donald Trump started
to tweet out saying that he's going to unindorse people
like Marjorie Taylor Green. So it's basically Massy and me versus.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The White House.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I mean, they're calling members to the situation room. But
you know why Trump is losing his MAGA base on this.
The reason he's losing it is heat Ran saying there's
a corrupt governing elite that.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Has schefted you. That this is the.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Epstein class was forgotten Americans, and I'm going to stand
up for forgotten Americans. He has forgotten, those forgotten Americans,
and we are saying that we are gonna stand up
for survivors, for America's kids, and we're gonna hold this
class accountable very quickly.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
How many Republicans you think.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I'll join you? I'm hoping for forty plus.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Look, this is the Democratic Party. This is how little
they care about the American people. This is how little
they care about the victims. All they care about, clearly
is scoring political points. They want to undermine Donald Trump,
and they're willing to use Jeffrey Epstein's victims from decades ago,
(11:34):
literally from decades ago, to accomplish it. If this was
about exposing who was with Jeffrey Epstein, then why did
the Democrats protect Jeffrey Epstein. In fact, that brings us
to part two of the story. We now know that
Jeffrey Epstein was literally working with Democrats on Capitol Hill
(11:59):
to try to hurt Donald Trump. And Jeffrey Epstein was
actually sending questions to be asked to Democratic members of Congress.
Did you hear what I just said? Democrats, we now know,
were working with Jeffrey Epstein to try to hurt Donald
(12:20):
Trump when Donald Trump was in office when Donald Trump
was running for election. This is how corrupt. This is
how corrupt and how evil the Democratic Party has become.
They were texting messages while conversations were having about Donald
(12:41):
Trump in Congress. The Democratic Party was working with Jeffrey Epstein.
Not investigating Jeffrey Epstein, but working with Jeffrey Epstein and
working with Jeffrey Epstein for only one reason, working with
him to try to take down and try to hurt
(13:03):
Donald Trump. So when you think about that, and now
the Democratic Party says they care about justice, they do not.
They only cared about weaponizing whatever they could to hurt Trump,
including working with a pedophile, with a convicted sex offender
by the name of Jeffrey Epstein. And now they say, oh,
(13:25):
we care about the victims. No, they only care about
hurting the president. And that is what this story is
really all about.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update
with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever
you're listening to this podcast right now and for more
in depth news, also subscribe to the Ben Ferguson podcast
and we will see you back here tomorrow.
About the Epstein host.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
What happens is you're not talking about how well we've done,
mister Fred.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
That's the whole purpose behind them. They want to waste
people's time, and some of the don't member Republic gets
like that.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Good Monday morning, sir, nice have you with us on
the forty seven Morning Update, And we've got a major
story for you, but a couple of different perspectives on it.
It deals with Jeffrey Epstein, the Epstein files, and why
Democrats all of a sudden, out of nowhere claim they
actually care about the victims, and how there's nothing that's
tying Jeffrey Epstein to Donald Trump in any way. The
(00:40):
media they don't want you to know that. But before
we get to that, I want to talk to you
about my friends at Kurt Elliott Precious Metals. Two days ago,
I got my new order of silver. Now I'm investing
in silver right now because the pricing on it is
amazing and the upside well it's real and I wasn't
paying math up charges on quote. Rare are special coins
(01:03):
and then when you go to sell them, you take
away all of your earning potential. Why do they do
it this way at Kurt Elliott because they have transparent
pricing up front. It's very simple. You pay eight percent
when you buy, and here's what matters to you the most,
nothing when you sell. There are no hidden fees ever
(01:24):
with Kurt Elliott Precious Metals. This is the reason why
I recommend them. It's not just about investing, it's about
making sure you get more for your money. And that
is exactly why Kurt Elliott helps people all the time.
Whether it's gold or silver, you can hold it, be
a good steward of it, you can pass it on
to future generations, and you can build wealth with it.
(01:47):
It's real bullion, never gimmicks, just investment grade gold and silver.
No overpriced coins, no flashy markups. And it's a company
that I love because they are a faith driven company.
There's no pressure, just honest care. They treat every client
like family, offering honest answers up front to help you
(02:10):
make wise informed decisions. Now, if you're seeking a partner
when it comes to gold and silver with an eternity mindset,
visit k PM dot com slash ben that's k E.
Pm dot com slash ben. You can also call them
seven two zero six o five thirty nine hundred. That's
(02:33):
seven two zero six oh five thirty nine hundred. So
let's faithfully steward what God has given so you can
experience real peace now and for generations to come. K
e PM dot com slash ben. It's the forty seven
Morning Update and it starts right now. Story number one,
Donald Trump fighting back on the Jeffrey Epstein media hoax.
(02:58):
Let me remind you, and the Democratic Party never gave
a damn about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. In fact,
they look the complete opposite direction. And now only now
are they obsessed over it because they think politically, somehow
this issue could hurt Donald Trump's presidency. In other words,
the media on the left they need another Russia collusion hoax.
(03:21):
They don't need it to be real, they don't need
it to be factual. They just need a good lie.
They can undermine President Trump by five or ten points
in polling and take away his political power. It's exactly
what they did to him in twenty sixteen. And now
we know a little bit more about how corrupt the
Democratic Party actually is when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
(03:43):
How do we know this? Because of a shocking story
that's not being reported on this week. We now know
that the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein texted with House
Democrats during a Michael Cohen hearing trying to hurt Donald Trump.
I want to give you a breakdown of what we know.
(04:04):
Documents released by Congress via the estate of Epstein and
his communications actually show and confirm that Epstein, while live,
was literally text messaging Democratic member of Congress during the hearing. Specifically,
according to the newly released documents from the Epstein estate,
(04:26):
during the February twenty nineteen hearing of Michael Cohen before
the House Oversite Committee. You may remember Michael Cohen is
the former lawyer for Donald Trump, and they were using
Michael Cohen to try to go after Donald Trump and
undermine him as we were rolling into the twenty twenty election.
So Michael Cohen is before the House Oversite Committee, and
what was Jeffrey Epstein doing. He was sending text messages
(04:49):
to Stacy Plaskett, a Democrat from virgin from the Virgin
Islands in real time. The messages indicated that he was
watching the hearing, pointing out that Cohen had mentioned ronand
Keeper of the Secrets, referring to Trump's former assistant, and
prompted that Plasket quick, I'm up next? Is that an
(05:11):
acronym now? Plasket's office acknowledged that she received messages from staff, constituents,
and the public at large, including from Epstein, during the hearing,
trying to downplay this to The Washington Post this week. Now,
additional release communications show Epstein frequently referenced Trump and his
(05:35):
emails and text messages with other associates. For example, in
twenty seventeen, Epstein claimed to be passing messages from Trump
to others. Meanwhile, there is a strong bipartisan momentum in
Congress to force the release some more documents related to Epstein.
Is what democrats want you to believe. Why do they
(05:56):
care now but not before now? For one reason, because
they want to try to find a way to hurt
Donald Trump. Donald Trump responding to this by saying this
as he was leaving dead back to the White House
from Florida. Fake news like you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You're a terrible reporter.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
As fake news like you. They just keep bringing that
up to deflect from the tremendous success of the Trump administration.
So a guy like Massey, his full numbers is showing he'
said six percent approval rating right now, and we call
him Ran Paul Junior because he never votes for the
Republican Party. So that using Jeffrey Epstein as a deflection
(06:36):
from the tremendous success that we're having as a party.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Donald Trump virtually saying the same thing he said about
the Russian hoax back in twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen,
and now Democrats are doing it again. But while Democrats
are playing checkers, Donald Trump seems to be playing chess
on this issue. We now know that he has ordered
the Department of Justice, at the request of the President,
to investigate Epstein's ties to political foes as the left
(07:04):
has described it, including many prominent Democrats and mega donors,
including former President Bill Clinton. Trump's team is strongly rejecting
the narrative that these documents are a Democratic led smear
against him. The White House says the release emails were
selectively leaked by Democrats for one reason, to give them
(07:27):
to the little liberal media and then have those somehow
hurt him or stain him. Trump himself has labeled the
Epstein fol focus of hoax and nothing but a diversion.
Now here's the other part that deals with facts. There
are no I want to make this clear, even ceing
in admitting this this week, there are no verified allegations
(07:49):
in the public records so far that a Democratic lawmaker
was collaborating with Epstein with the express purpose, they say,
of targeting Donald Trump, even though the text messages are
clear Epstein was targeting Donald Trump. But that's what the
media wants you to believe. The one confirmed tex exchange
with a Democratic congresswoman does, in fact show that Epstein
(08:10):
was text here during the hearing in real time and
making it clear he was trying to hurt Donald Trump.
We also know that the media has been forced to
correct themselves, making it clear, as I mentioned a moment ago,
that there are no verified allegations at all against President
Donald Trump with anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein, something
(08:32):
the media hopes you will forget. Why are they obsessed
with the issue. It's actually very simple. The Democratic Party
is obsessed with this issue because they want something to
undermine the president by two or three points. What happens
when that happens. It's a real simple thing. When that happens,
(08:53):
then the president has a harder time getting his agenda done.
Which brings me back to Representative Rocanna, a Democrat from California.
Rocanna went on Meet the Press and what he said
was is Donald Trump is losing his magabase over the
Epstein files. This goes back to exactly the political narrative
that they actually want. He sat down with Meet the
(09:15):
Press host Kristen Welker and she said, I want to
ask you a big question about a big issue that
deals with Jeffrey Epstein. So here we are. We have
a president of the United States of America, yet again
having to deal with another hoax. I believe most of
the Epstein files are going to come out, but as
you can hear from Rocana, he believes they're scoring points
(09:38):
to undermine Trump.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
You have been focused on pushing for the release of
the Jeffrey Epstein files. Your joint bill with Thomas Massey's
going to come to a vote on the House floor.
It's expected to this week. Do you think you have
enough votes.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
For it to pass? We do, And there's nothing I
have been a proud are more meaningful than this work.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
The Craig goes to the survivors.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
They're going to be at the Capitol on Tuesday in
a press conference. Massy, myself and Representative Green are doing
this was disgusting. Epstein had set up a rape island
where rich and powerful men were abusing young girls with impunity.
And there are thousands of victims, and rich and powerful
men still have buildings named after them, scholarships named after them.
(10:26):
This is not partisan. They all need to be held accountable.
The Epstein class needs to go.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
How many Republicans are going to join you? Could you
have a veto proof majority?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Well, I was hoping that, and then Donald Trump started
to tweet out saying that he's going to unindorse people
like Marjorie Taylor Green. So it's basically Massy and me versus.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The White House.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I mean, they're calling members to the situation room. But
you know why Trump is losing his MAGA base on this.
The reason he's losing it is heat Ran saying there's
a corrupt governing elite that.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Has schefted you. That this is the.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Epstein class was forgotten Americans, and I'm going to stand
up for forgotten Americans. He has forgotten, those forgotten Americans,
and we are saying that we are gonna stand up
for survivors, for America's kids, and we're gonna hold this
class accountable very quickly.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
How many Republicans you think.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I'll join you? I'm hoping for forty plus.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Look, this is the Democratic Party. This is how little
they care about the American people. This is how little
they care about the victims. All they care about, clearly
is scoring political points. They want to undermine Donald Trump,
and they're willing to use Jeffrey Epstein's victims from decades ago,
(11:34):
literally from decades ago, to accomplish it. If this was
about exposing who was with Jeffrey Epstein, then why did
the Democrats protect Jeffrey Epstein. In fact, that brings us
to part two of the story. We now know that
Jeffrey Epstein was literally working with Democrats on Capitol Hill
(11:59):
to try to hurt Donald Trump. And Jeffrey Epstein was
actually sending questions to be asked to Democratic members of Congress.
Did you hear what I just said? Democrats, we now know,
were working with Jeffrey Epstein to try to hurt Donald
(12:20):
Trump when Donald Trump was in office when Donald Trump
was running for election. This is how corrupt. This is
how corrupt and how evil the Democratic Party has become.
They were texting messages while conversations were having about Donald
(12:41):
Trump in Congress. The Democratic Party was working with Jeffrey Epstein.
Not investigating Jeffrey Epstein, but working with Jeffrey Epstein and
working with Jeffrey Epstein for only one reason, working with
him to try to take down and try to hurt
(13:03):
Donald Trump. So when you think about that, and now
the Democratic Party says they care about justice, they do not.
They only cared about weaponizing whatever they could to hurt Trump,
including working with a pedophile, with a convicted sex offender
by the name of Jeffrey Epstein. And now they say, oh,
(13:25):
we care about the victims. No, they only care about
hurting the president. And that is what this story is
really all about.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update
with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever
you're listening to this podcast right now and for more
in depth news, also subscribe to the Ben Ferguson podcast
and we will see you back here tomorrow.
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