November 16, 2025 • 34 mins
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Government Reopening
- The shutdown lasted 44 days, the longest in U.S. history.
- The House is expected to vote on an appropriations package and continuing resolution, followed by the President’s signature.
- Federal employees (Capitol Hill staff, TSA agents, air traffic controllers, custodians) have missed paychecks and are stressed financially.
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Operational Impact
- Air travel disruptions (delays and cancellations) will persist for several days due to staffing shortages and sick-outs among TSA and air traffic controllers.
- Full restoration of government services will take time.
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Political Commentary
- Senator Ted Cruz criticizes Democrats for allegedly using shutdowns as leverage and predicts another shutdown when the continuing resolution expires on January 30.
- Discussion of legislation to ensure essential workers are paid during future shutdowns.
- Internal Democratic Party conflicts highlighted, including criticism of Chuck Schumer and reactions to eight Democratic senators voting to reopen the government.
- Senator John Fetterman’s stance on Israel and divergence from the party’s radical wing is emphasized.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The government is starting to reopen.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The big question that so many of you have been
asking me on social media is all right, well, when
are we going to get back to normal?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
When am I going to get paid?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Many government workers asking that question, and how much longer
will there be chaos at America's airports and the cancelations.
A lot of those questions are needing to be answered.
Senator Cruz, join me to talk about this and exactly
how this is going to be rolled out in Washington,
d C. I want you to hear what Center Cruise
(00:32):
had to say about the timeline about when this will
get to the President's desk, and Speaker Johnson making it
also very clear that he is in a situation where
Democrats have been holding us hostage, but not only holding
us hostage. There's a very good chance we could have
another government shutdown within the next three months.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We'll explain that part as well.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Take a listen to What'senter Cruise had to say about
the government shutdown moving forward.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Center, we are in.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
A government shutdown that is ending, and the official vote
on that's going to take place today. For most Americans,
that means things will get back to normal pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
But it's still chaos in the skies as well. Well.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
That's right. The shutdown very likely ends today. The House
of Representatives is going to vote later this afternoon on
the appropriations package and the continuing resolution that the Senate
passed on Monday. Our podcasts that we put out, we
predicted that the government would open on Wednesday, and I
think it's very likely too. When the House passes it,
(01:36):
I expect the President to sign it pretty much immediately.
And once it's signed, the funding has returned now and
now it will take a little bit of time. I
don't know how quickly paychecks will process. So for the
federal employees who haven't gotten paychecks now for forty four days,
they would really like their paychecks. And I'll tell you
there are a lot of places like I'll give you
(01:57):
an example, Capitol Hill. There are a lot of people
on Capitol Hill. Staffers who have not gotten paid, Capitol
police that have not gotten paid, all of the employees,
the employees who drive the subways have not gotten paid.
Everyone who's an employee of the federal government, the custodians,
the electricians, they have not gotten paid. And look not
(02:17):
to mention the TSA agents and the air traffic control
agents and the border patrol agents, and throughout the federal government.
Thousands and thousands of people have not gotten paid, particularly
for some of the younger ones. Like on Capitol Hill,
you've got you know, young men and women that are
twenty two, twenty three years old. This is their first
job out of college.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know, some of them may have some savings, but
many of them don't have any savings at all. And
I'll tell you they're stressed. I mean, they're very stressed.
So my hope is the paychecks will come very quickly.
I don't know if they will come as quickly as Thursday,
or how long it will take actually the pipes to
do the direct deposit, but my hope is it will
be quite quick after the government opens, sometime when day evening,
(03:00):
when I anticipate the President will sign the legislation. Some
of the other delays will take a little bit more time. Presumably,
when the government opens Wednesday, each of the cabinet agencies
will send out emails and notify the non essential personnel,
the personnel who'd been furloughed come back to work. And
so I'm anticipating they'll come back to work. Thursday morning,
(03:22):
because everyone's knowing this is coming. So I think you'll
see full staff now. It may take a little bit
of time to start government services flowing at the same
speed that they normally flow at, and something like air
travel in particular, my suspicion is there'll be more of
a lag in air travel. I anticipate that we'll continue
to see delays and cancelations for several days beyond today,
(03:47):
because what's driving the delays and cancelations is that a
lot of the air traffic controllers and TSA agents have
been calling in sick. Maybe that immediately turns around on Thursday,
but that depends up the decision of fifty thousand TSA
agents and fourteen thousand air traffic controllers, and the FAA
is not going to return to full capacity flights until
(04:11):
we have sufficient numbers of controllers in the air traffic
control room to ensure that people are flying safely.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's going to be a really important part of the
equation as you described it there, and it's a smart
way that I think what we've really seen is true
leadership from the Transportation Secretary on that issue and the
Trump administration to make sure hey, yeah, there's some delays,
but we're going to make sure you're safe from the skies.
And that is one of the caveats to all of
this is at least you know that someone's kind of
(04:37):
looking out for your well being. And look, there's one
party just playing pure politics trying to hurt people. There's
another that's playing defense and trying to protect you. That
is I think the takeaway from this shutdown.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I think that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
We also saw that the President called for ten thousand
dollars bonuses for the air traffic controllers who work during
the shutdown. That's a great policy. I think that that
makes an awful lot of sense. I would like to
see the law change so that air traffic controllers get
paid whether there's a shutdown or not. And as you know,
(05:12):
I voted multiple times for Ron Johnson's legislation that would
pay all essential employees so that you don't have federal
workers forced to come in and work but not to
get a paycheck, because that's what drives things like the
sickouts and people not showing up. And so I think
it would make perfect sense to to have written as
(05:33):
a matter of law that regardless of whether there's there's
a shutdown. Soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines and
FBI agents and border patrol agents and ice agents and
air traffic controllers and TSA agents, and everyone who is essential,
who is required to work, they get paid. The problem
has been that Democrats have voted against that over and
(05:53):
over and over again. I don't really see that changing
because look, one of the consequences of this, we have
funded three appropriations bills. We've funded the Agricultural Appropriations Bill
that includes the programs for farmers and ranchers, that includes snaps,
so food stamps is funded. All of that's funded for
(06:13):
a year, so there won't be a shutdown on that
going forward. We have also funded military construction in the VA,
so that's really important both for construction projects at military
bases across the country and that's a job driver, and
it's important for our military defense. That's funded for a year,
and the VA obviously caring for our veterans is critically important.
(06:34):
That's funded for a year. So that's good news. It
means the next shutdown will have a smaller impact because
those three appropriations will continue. But the continuing resolution we
passed expires January thirtieth, and I got to say I
will be very surprised if the Democrats don't force another
shut down on January thirtieth, and so these battles have
(06:57):
not gone away, but they're at least delayed till January thirtieth.
Then we may be right back with the same problem
with flight delays if the Democrats do it again.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Senator, I want to ask you a question that you
just mentioned earlier, and that is, how do we take
some of this insanity off the table? You talked about
there being real, you know, conversations about making some of
these workers where they would be essential, they would get
paid in future shutdown, so they wouldn't be we wouldn't
have the problems of the airport we have now, but
(07:28):
also safety and people that are forced to show up
to work. They're going to get paid on time. If
this is brought up after the shutdown. What is the
main reason why Democrats are against it? Is it just
pure leverage at this point?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, No, that they want to inflict maximum pain. They
want to shut down to be painful for the American people,
and it's so they don't want that. They were furious
when Trump paid the military and he had enough funds
from the one big beautiful Bill that he could shift
around and pay the military. They wanted the military not
to be paid. They're looking for maximum pain because and
(08:08):
they've said this, They've been very candid. They say that's
where they get leverage. You know, tonight it's it's it's
Tuesday night, it's Veterans Day. So so I want to
say to everyone who defended this nation, every veteran, we
have thank you. We are we are grateful for your
your service, your sacrifice. Our liberties are here because of you.
I am rutting right now.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Today.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I'm in I'm in Miami. So this evening I spoke
at the Miami Dade County Lincoln Day Dinner. Uh it's
a huge event, over one thousand people. You know, Miami
Dade County has been a Democrat stronghold for for decades.
This last cycle, we flipped Dade County red. It is
a Republican county. Republicans won multiple elections up and down
(08:51):
the up and down the slate. There was a lot
of energy there tonight. But but I got to say
ben I started by telling everyone and I said, last
night I was on the floor of the Senate Bernie
Sanders was screaming, Elizabeth Warren led out an angry war hoop,
Corey Booker curled up in a ball Adam Schiff was pounding,
(09:16):
and Chuck Schumer was crying. And that's not exactly right.
But I said, you know what all of that says.
It was a great day for America. The Democrats were
consuming each other because there were eight Democrats that finally,
after forty two days, showed the courage to say, enough
is enough, Let's reopen the government. And the Democrats turned
(09:38):
on each other with a viciousness that is truly extraordinary.
So here was a major story in the Washington Post headline,
Democrats pushed for a ruthlessly pragmatic approach to counter Trump.
And here's what the Post reported. The fury at eight
Democratic alligned senators who voted with Republicans to end the
(09:59):
longest y government shutdown highlights the dramatic shift in the
Democratic Party less than a year into President Trump's second term,
as voters and lawmakers argue that the party needs to
adopt a more ruthless tactics to counter the president and
claw its way back to power. So listen, the Democrats
are saying the longest shutdown in history wasn't ruthless enough.
(10:20):
It needs to be worse. Post continues. The reaction to
the two votes on Sunday and Monday, which provide a
pathway for the government to reopen after more than forty days,
was fierce. Representative Roe Kanna, Democrat from California, called for
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to be replaced, suggesting he
was an ineffective leader. Even though Schumer opposed the government
(10:43):
funding measures. So Schumer voted no, but it doesn't matter.
They want to throw him out anyway. House Minority Leader
at Keem Jeffreys, Democrat New York, blasted the eight senators
and said the House Democrats would not support a government
funding bill that did not include the healthcare measures the
party has demanded. So today the Democrats, presumably all or
virtually all, are going to vote to keep the shutdown going.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I fully expect House Republicans will provide the votes needed
to send this to the president. But here's what the
post continues. Democratic advocacy groups, politically vulnerable lawmakers, potential twenty
twenty eight presidential candidates, and voters all followed suit, lambasting
those in the party they saw as caving. The desire
(11:27):
for Democrats to hold firm despite the pain inflicted by
the shutdown, even though the party's prior posture was that
shutdowns are self destructive, was the latest sign that the
party has decided it must adopt an altogether different playbook
given Trump's willingness to resort to unprecedented measures to consolidate
(11:48):
and maintain powers, rather than try to uphold norms as
the president shatters them, they have decided to fight Trump
with tactics they previously disdained, and they have excoriated those
who stood in the way, whether on redistricting or candidates
with problematic pasts. And here's one of my colleagues, Chris
(12:09):
van Holland, one of the more liberal Democrats, quote, early on,
there were not enough members of Congress who recognized the
magnitude of the threat Donald Trump poses to our democracy
and constitution. That has changed. Van Holland said that there
were a few senators in what he has dubbed the
quote no business as usual caucus at the beginning of
Trump's term, but it has since grown dramatically in response
(12:32):
to energy from the party's base. Quote the lesson is
there is power and unity and in members of Congress
working in partnership with the grassroots community. This is why
so many people are feeling let down at this moment,
because that unity was important. This is the reaction on
the Democrat side. They are Schumer is besieged from all sides.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
There are Democrats now that are basically like off with
his head and leadership. They want him gone. They're publicly
saying no, oh, yeah, this is the end of him.
He has done. MSNBC said it multiple times. CNN commentators
said the same thing, like he's done. They got to
get rid of him. His career's over. This goes back
to the being held hostage by the Marxists, the socialism
and communists of the Democratic Party. Now they didn't police him.
(13:15):
Now they're running the party and they're anarchists. And Chuck
Schumer shut down the government for the longest period in
history of this country, and that wasn't good enough for them.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And he still voted no on reopening it. So he
shut it down for the longest in history. He voted
no consistently, and yet they're still off with his head.
It really is the crazies are driving the Democrat party.
And look, if you don't believe me, maybe you will
believe John Fetterman. I want you to listen to this exchange.
Senator John Fetterman, Democrat from Pennsylvania, was on the view
(13:50):
and Sonny, you know, one of the left wing hosts
there comes after him and comes after him hard. Listen
to her unhinged question and then listen to Fetterman's response.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Well.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Senator Bernie Sanders said the vote was a horrific mistake.
Governor Gavin Newsom called it pathetic and a surrender. Poll
after poll found more Americans on both sides of the
aisle blaming Republicans. Even Marjorie Taylor Green blamed the GOP.
As you mentioned, Democrats have big wins last week, so
you had momentum. Why give in now? Why bring a
(14:25):
butter knife to a gunfight. Are you willing to gamble
that the GOP will negotiate on healthcare in good faith
once the government reopens? Because if that gamble is wrong,
half a million Pennsylvanians that you represent, their healthcare cost
will skyrocket if you are wrong, and I believe you
are wrong.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Well, for first of all, MTG is quite literally the
last person in America that I'm going to take advice
or to get their kinds of my.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Leadership and values from.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
And now if Democrats are celebrating crazy pants, that then
that's on them. And now I don't need and I
don't need a lecture. I don't need a lecture from
from whether it's Bernie or the governor in California, because
they are representing very deep blue blue kinds of populations
and a lot of those things, a lot of those
things were part of the extreme. And I'll remember what
(15:20):
really needs to win, to win the big win is
involving my state and other states and those things. And
why have we arrived here after the election a year ago.
We want to forget, we got to forget some of
the things that cost us that election are now for me,
it's like, that's why I'm trying to remind people that
(15:41):
kinds of the extreme extreme newsm we can't return to
those kind of things and realize we need to find
a way forward. And I would like to rather than
cite MTG, I'm going to cite one of the new
governor elects saying that my election is not a green
light to continue this shutdown, because I promise you, this
isn't a political game. It is viewed by that by
(16:02):
many of us. But the reality is forty two million
Americans now not sure where their next meal is going.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
To come from.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
And because we vote like that, vote like that or
people that haven't been paid for five weeks now and
that kinds of chaos. Those workers are more than half
a billion dollars, you know, from their credit union just
to pay their bills.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now you with him talking about paying their bills, and
I love that from Fetterman. There, they also were very
quiet because I didn't think I don't think they realized
he was going to come back with facts that way
and describe it. I jokingly said to you before the
show started, When's John Fetterman going to join the Republican
Party because he's been speaking an awful lot.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Of truth about the reality this shutdown.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Well, look, I like John Fetterman, and I will tell
you Republicans actually treated much more nicely than the Democrats do.
The Democrats are mean to him, they're vicious to him.
They that they really have a deep antipathy to him.
And the amazing thing he votes the overwhelming majority of
the time with the Democrats. You know, he's on the
(17:06):
Commerce Committee with me. On virtually every vote he votes
party line with the Democrats. On most votes on the floor,
he votes party line with the Democrats. He has a
few defections. So he did vote to open the government,
and that's viewed as this great heresy because he didn't
want to have a force a government shut down and
hurt millions of Americans and continue the longest government shut
(17:29):
down in history. And the main area that he's been
willing to dissent from. Virtually every other Congressional Democrat is
in support of Israel. And we've talked about before that
there is a real and cognizable pro Hamas caucus in
the Democrat Party. It rose up about ten years ago.
(17:49):
The Democrats did nothing, They look the other way, and
it's now taken over their party. And Fetterman is a
massive outlier because he is genuinely pro Israel. He is
vocally pro Israel, and the radicals in the Democrat Party
hate him for that. And again, if you don't believe me,
listen to what John Fetterman said on exactly this topic.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
You are not Jewish, at least as far as I know.
Feel free to come, feel free to come out here
to me right now. But you have been one of
the most outspoken. It's beyond Washington, it's beyond politicians. You
have been one of the most outspoken people in American
life on the issue of anti Semitism.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Why is this issue so important to you?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Ironically I did that twenty three and me I'm ninety
seven percent German and three percent Neanderthal, and it's like,
maybe it's ironic that a big German guy from Pennsylvania
has been very absolutely devoted to Israel and to experience
the kind of anti Semitism and in my life, I mean,
(18:55):
you know what you know, the Tree of Life, I mean,
that's that's where you're from, too. Absolutely appalling, and my
heart breaks for what the Jewish communities suffered, especially after
ten to seven. I've had the honor of meeting, you know,
members of the hostages, former people that were kept underground
for five hundred days. Five hundred days. I mean, those
(19:16):
are heroes. I've met with widows their husbands were lost
in the gods of war and they have eight children,
raising eight children by their own. That's a hero for
all of it. So so for me, it's heartbreaking, and
that's been. What's so difficult for me is like being
devotion to Israel becoming increasingly incompatible with being a proud
(19:39):
Democrat now too, and that's put me at odds. And
the things that put me at odds have all converged
at the same time, you know, the gods of war,
the peace deal, and then we moved right into a shutdown,
you know, like now Democrats might not be allowed to
hold these views, and I'm not changing my party. And
you know, run the numbers, run numbers, you know, you
(20:01):
would find that I'm a I'm a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know, he is a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
But you've walked past his Senate office countless times. I've
walked past it probably dozens of times when I'm up
in DC, and he had all the hostage pictures up
in his front office, which I thought was incredible.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Look, he has been genuinely courageous and sincerely courageous on Israel,
and it's earned the absolute ire, hatred, animosity, venom of
the radical left in the Democrat Party. I mean, you
heard what he just said there, that that that being
pro Israel is becoming incompatible with being a proud Democrat.
(20:45):
I mean, that's a that's a tragic statement. I wish
that statement were not true, but it is the biggest
reason why their radicals hate him and much of You know,
when he was first elected and he came into office,
he had a stroke during the campaign, and the stroke
was very debilitating. When John showed up, the stroke really
(21:10):
limited Like when I first met him. What the stroke
did is it limited his ability to process auditory input.
So you would talk to him and his brain was
not able to process the words he was hearing, and
so he would carry with him an iPad that had
a translator because it just this is one of the
(21:31):
consequences that can be from a stroke, is your ability
to process words that you hear. Your brain just can't
put them together. So you would talk and he would
read it. But when he first got there, you would
talk to him and he would literally he was not
able to understand what you were saying. And I mean
it hurt your heart. I mean, this is a is
a very bright man. The man's a Harvard graduate, but
(21:52):
he had a medical issue that he had real consequences.
Early on, the Democrats all circle around him and said,
you know, he's perfectly capable. There are no issues whatsoever,
because they assumed he would be a left wing Democrat,
that's what they expected of him. That was not a
crazy expectation going in. And then when he started standing up,
(22:15):
particularly on Israel, standing up and defying the Prohamas Caucus,
you started seeing the Democrats leaking and planning stories and
really attacking his mental capability. And the irony is, look
you heard in those exchanges. He's now able to have
a conversation. He still is a little halting in his communication.
(22:36):
I think that's some of the aftermath of the stroke.
But the difference is night and day. You can now
have a conversation and he can hear you in a
way that when he showed up in the Senate he
was not able to. And yet Democrats are running to
reporters to plant negative stories attacking him. Many of his
colleagues want to drive him out of the party, and
(22:58):
at least on the Republicans side, I like John and
I think consistently all the Republicans are just trying to
be nice to him. By the way, they did the
same thing to Joe Manchin, they did the same thing
to Kirsten Cinemon. They succeeded in driving both of them
out of the party because they want no dissent. You
must obey and follow orders or they'll do everything they
(23:19):
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Cinema and mentioned I think Republicans were much nicer to
than Democrats were, and the consequence was they were both
driven out of the party.
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Speaker 3 (25:53):
I think it is very likely when the CR expires
on January thirtieth. I don't see a fundamental dynamic that changes.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Maybe maybe maybe maybe the eight Democrats who cut the deal, now,
maybe on January thirtieth, they cut the deal at the
front end. That's possible, I can tell you. As we
were sitting there on Monday and they had cast the
initial vote on Sunday and they were getting savaged on
(26:23):
the Republican side, we felt a real urgency a vote
now now now, because look, we were very afraid one
of them would flip. I mean, I mean it. There
is typically a limit to how much abuse an elected
official can take, and the left wing base was savaging
those eight.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
We actually had a delay because John Kennedy, who's a
good friend of mine, was put in fact, he's been
on the podcast just a week ago. Yeah, John was
pressing for a resolution that says, if there's a shutdown,
senators will not be paid so long as federal workers
are not being paid, and as you know, I voluntarily
(27:07):
did that, so I have not taken a paycheck for
the entire length of this shutdown. I sent a written
letter to the Secretary of the Senate saying, hold my paycheck.
I'm not going to be paid as long as their
federal workers who are not being paid. So whenever the
at some point, I'll get my paychecks from the last
forty days in the next presumably few days, whenever the
other federal workers do. I don't know when that will come,
(27:29):
but many, and I think most of the Democrats did
not do that. They continued taking their paychecks throughout, which
was an incredible hypocrisy. And so Kennedy was pushing really
hard for saying, look, no senators should get paid while
there's a shutdown. He wanted a vote when we were
(27:50):
taking this up and voting on it. He wanted a
separate amendment vote on that. And it was a challenge
because the Democrats were refusing to give that amendment vote
and saying, if you get that amendment vote, then we
want a bunch of amendment votes, and so everything was
paralyzed and it could have delayed. Instead of the Senate
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voting Monday night, it could have delayed till Tuesday or
Wednesday or Thursday. And I and many others were really
concerned if it delayed till Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday
for the Senate to vote, one or more of the
eight Democrats would get cold feet and flip. And so
actually the way it got resolved as I went to
John Kennedy's office, and he and I are good friends,
and I said, look, can we work something out? Because
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he was really mad, he was frustrated that he couldn't
get his vote. I said, can we work something out
that lets us vote to reopen the government and get
you what you want? And so we cut an agreement
that next week the Rules Committee on which I serve,
is going to vote on John Kennedy's resolution, and I
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think we're going to vote it out of the Rules
Committee and put it on the Senate floor and we'll
vote on the Senate floor right after Thanksgiving on Careannity's provision.
And I asked him, look, would you be willing to
accept a vote on this that it's separate that doesn't
delay the overall funding bill, Because if we delay it,
if one of these Democrats get cold feet. We could
have another week, two, three, four weeks of shutdown and
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none of us want that. And Kennedy he was angry,
but he said yes, he would agree to that. I'm
really glad John did that. That was the right thing.
But he's fighting for something he really believes in. So
I was able to go to leadership and say, look,
you guys need to commit to have the vote in
the rules committee and the vote on the floor. And
leadership did make that commitment, and that was the pivotal
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piece that got us to a vote Monday night to
reopen the government.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Thirty days from now. What do you think the fallout's
going to actually be. I think people are so fast
to get back to normal. The holidays are coming. I
think that's going to be sending reputer just like, all right,
everything's fine my normal chaos as long as we don't
have chaos and the skuy's outside of the normal chaos
with it when it comes to Thanksgiving or Christmas travel,
I'm good. We're pretty selfish as a people. Now, let's
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just be honest about it. So it's a lot of
it is Hey, if it doesn't affect me, is it
really happening? This happens now, and is there going to
be fallout or accountability on either side.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, Look, people will remember what impacted themselves and their families.
So if your food stamps got delayed, you'll remember that.
That will abate a real difference. If your paycheck got delayed,
that will impact you know. I was having a conversation
with the Capitol Police officer yesterday, and this was a
Capitol Police officer who was a veteran, had been around
a while, and he was talking about how they were
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giving grief to like some of the rookies who were
brand new. He said, there was a class straight out
of the academy who started like two days before the shutdown,
and you know, these are all really you know, young
men and women twenty two to twenty three years old,
and this is like their first job and suddenly they're
not getting paid. And he did say that the veteran
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Capitol Police officers were basically giving grief to the young
rookies and being like, oh, you're new to this game,
and you know, shutdowns are part of working for the
federal government, and but you know a lot of these
young guys don't have much savings, so they were a
little bit shell shocked from it. Those folks will remember,
but most Americans, if it didn't impact you. The biggest
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way that a lot of Americans were impacted was flight
delays and flight delays and cancelations. The people who had
their trip to visit their mom canceled, the trip to
go to a funeral in the family, the trip to
go on family vacation, the trip to go on a
work trip. People will be annoyed at that. Now, look,
it's November, we'll move into Thanksgiving. I think by Thanksgiving,
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the air traffic we'll be back to normal, so it
won't be an additional burden. And then we'll get into
Christmas and the holidays. And do I think by December
one the shutdown is going to be front and center
in anyone's mind. Not really, But then we're going to
get January thirtieth, And I mentioned in the last podcast
it was really important that we had the continuing Resolution.
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There was a big push to get it to expire
on like December twenty first. Yeah, that was a terrible
idea because often if government funding expires right before Christmas. Look, obviously,
every member of Congress wants to get home to be
with their family for Christmas. That's that's natural. You know,
most of us have kids. You want to be with
your kids for Christmas. That leads frequently to really bad deals.
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There's an old phrase that jet fumes get in the air,
that people are really anxious to get out of town,
so they'll agree to horrible deals. So the Conservatives, I
was pressing hard, do not end it right before Christmas.
We need to go into January so we don't have
that pressure pushing people to make a bad deal. And thankfully,
and I'll give John Thune credit, John Thune leaned in
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and said, we're going till January thirtieth. That's what's in there.
We will have this same fight at the end of January.
But that at least gives us some more time and
some more time to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
You know, it's interesting if you look at the takeaway here.
It took forty days, longest shut down in government history,
and it seems that Democrats are just saying, we'll kick
the can down the road a couple months. We may
have another government shut down. We're going to keep holding
the American people hostage. We're not learning from any of this,
and this is a scary way that the government's being
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run right now. But this is what happens when you
have the extreme left who is hell bent on hurting
Americans to get their way when they don't win an election,
and that's what this is really all about for them.
We'll keep you updated on all of it.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Rage is not Rage is not an agenda. Anger is
not an agenda. Hate is not an agenda. And unfortunately
on the far left in the Democrat Party, that is
what they are for is rage, hate, and anger. And
we're going to see more chaos, We're going to see
more holding the American people hostage because it's a direct
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outgrowth of that rage and hate anger.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Don't forget to share this podcast, by the way, with
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talk to you again tomorrow.
The government is starting to reopen.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The big question that so many of you have been
asking me on social media is all right, well, when
are we going to get back to normal?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
When am I going to get paid?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Many government workers asking that question, and how much longer
will there be chaos at America's airports and the cancelations.
A lot of those questions are needing to be answered.
Senator Cruz, join me to talk about this and exactly
how this is going to be rolled out in Washington,
d C. I want you to hear what Center Cruise
(00:32):
had to say about the timeline about when this will
get to the President's desk, and Speaker Johnson making it
also very clear that he is in a situation where
Democrats have been holding us hostage, but not only holding
us hostage. There's a very good chance we could have
another government shutdown within the next three months.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We'll explain that part as well.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Take a listen to What'senter Cruise had to say about
the government shutdown moving forward.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Center, we are in.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
A government shutdown that is ending, and the official vote
on that's going to take place today. For most Americans,
that means things will get back to normal pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
But it's still chaos in the skies as well. Well.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
That's right. The shutdown very likely ends today. The House
of Representatives is going to vote later this afternoon on
the appropriations package and the continuing resolution that the Senate
passed on Monday. Our podcasts that we put out, we
predicted that the government would open on Wednesday, and I
think it's very likely too. When the House passes it,
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I expect the President to sign it pretty much immediately.
And once it's signed, the funding has returned now and
now it will take a little bit of time. I
don't know how quickly paychecks will process. So for the
federal employees who haven't gotten paychecks now for forty four days,
they would really like their paychecks. And I'll tell you
there are a lot of places like I'll give you
(01:57):
an example, Capitol Hill. There are a lot of people
on Capitol Hill. Staffers who have not gotten paid, Capitol
police that have not gotten paid, all of the employees,
the employees who drive the subways have not gotten paid.
Everyone who's an employee of the federal government, the custodians,
the electricians, they have not gotten paid. And look not
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to mention the TSA agents and the air traffic control
agents and the border patrol agents, and throughout the federal government.
Thousands and thousands of people have not gotten paid, particularly
for some of the younger ones. Like on Capitol Hill,
you've got you know, young men and women that are
twenty two, twenty three years old. This is their first
job out of college.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know, some of them may have some savings, but
many of them don't have any savings at all. And
I'll tell you they're stressed. I mean, they're very stressed.
So my hope is the paychecks will come very quickly.
I don't know if they will come as quickly as Thursday,
or how long it will take actually the pipes to
do the direct deposit, but my hope is it will
be quite quick after the government opens, sometime when day evening,
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when I anticipate the President will sign the legislation. Some
of the other delays will take a little bit more time. Presumably,
when the government opens Wednesday, each of the cabinet agencies
will send out emails and notify the non essential personnel,
the personnel who'd been furloughed come back to work. And
so I'm anticipating they'll come back to work. Thursday morning,
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because everyone's knowing this is coming. So I think you'll
see full staff now. It may take a little bit
of time to start government services flowing at the same
speed that they normally flow at, and something like air
travel in particular, my suspicion is there'll be more of
a lag in air travel. I anticipate that we'll continue
to see delays and cancelations for several days beyond today,
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because what's driving the delays and cancelations is that a
lot of the air traffic controllers and TSA agents have
been calling in sick. Maybe that immediately turns around on Thursday,
but that depends up the decision of fifty thousand TSA
agents and fourteen thousand air traffic controllers, and the FAA
is not going to return to full capacity flights until
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we have sufficient numbers of controllers in the air traffic
control room to ensure that people are flying safely.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's going to be a really important part of the
equation as you described it there, and it's a smart
way that I think what we've really seen is true
leadership from the Transportation Secretary on that issue and the
Trump administration to make sure hey, yeah, there's some delays,
but we're going to make sure you're safe from the skies.
And that is one of the caveats to all of
this is at least you know that someone's kind of
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looking out for your well being. And look, there's one
party just playing pure politics trying to hurt people. There's
another that's playing defense and trying to protect you. That
is I think the takeaway from this shutdown.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I think that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
We also saw that the President called for ten thousand
dollars bonuses for the air traffic controllers who work during
the shutdown. That's a great policy. I think that that
makes an awful lot of sense. I would like to
see the law change so that air traffic controllers get
paid whether there's a shutdown or not. And as you know,
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I voted multiple times for Ron Johnson's legislation that would
pay all essential employees so that you don't have federal
workers forced to come in and work but not to
get a paycheck, because that's what drives things like the
sickouts and people not showing up. And so I think
it would make perfect sense to to have written as
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a matter of law that regardless of whether there's there's
a shutdown. Soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines and
FBI agents and border patrol agents and ice agents and
air traffic controllers and TSA agents, and everyone who is essential,
who is required to work, they get paid. The problem
has been that Democrats have voted against that over and
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over and over again. I don't really see that changing
because look, one of the consequences of this, we have
funded three appropriations bills. We've funded the Agricultural Appropriations Bill
that includes the programs for farmers and ranchers, that includes snaps,
so food stamps is funded. All of that's funded for
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a year, so there won't be a shutdown on that
going forward. We have also funded military construction in the VA,
so that's really important both for construction projects at military
bases across the country and that's a job driver, and
it's important for our military defense. That's funded for a year,
and the VA obviously caring for our veterans is critically important.
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That's funded for a year. So that's good news. It
means the next shutdown will have a smaller impact because
those three appropriations will continue. But the continuing resolution we
passed expires January thirtieth, and I got to say I
will be very surprised if the Democrats don't force another
shut down on January thirtieth, and so these battles have
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not gone away, but they're at least delayed till January thirtieth.
Then we may be right back with the same problem
with flight delays if the Democrats do it again.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Senator, I want to ask you a question that you
just mentioned earlier, and that is, how do we take
some of this insanity off the table? You talked about
there being real, you know, conversations about making some of
these workers where they would be essential, they would get
paid in future shutdown, so they wouldn't be we wouldn't
have the problems of the airport we have now, but
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also safety and people that are forced to show up
to work. They're going to get paid on time. If
this is brought up after the shutdown. What is the
main reason why Democrats are against it? Is it just
pure leverage at this point?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, No, that they want to inflict maximum pain. They
want to shut down to be painful for the American people,
and it's so they don't want that. They were furious
when Trump paid the military and he had enough funds
from the one big beautiful Bill that he could shift
around and pay the military. They wanted the military not
to be paid. They're looking for maximum pain because and
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they've said this, They've been very candid. They say that's
where they get leverage. You know, tonight it's it's it's
Tuesday night, it's Veterans Day. So so I want to
say to everyone who defended this nation, every veteran, we
have thank you. We are we are grateful for your
your service, your sacrifice. Our liberties are here because of you.
I am rutting right now.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Today.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I'm in I'm in Miami. So this evening I spoke
at the Miami Dade County Lincoln Day Dinner. Uh it's
a huge event, over one thousand people. You know, Miami
Dade County has been a Democrat stronghold for for decades.
This last cycle, we flipped Dade County red. It is
a Republican county. Republicans won multiple elections up and down
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the up and down the slate. There was a lot
of energy there tonight. But but I got to say
ben I started by telling everyone and I said, last
night I was on the floor of the Senate Bernie
Sanders was screaming, Elizabeth Warren led out an angry war hoop,
Corey Booker curled up in a ball Adam Schiff was pounding,
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and Chuck Schumer was crying. And that's not exactly right.
But I said, you know what all of that says.
It was a great day for America. The Democrats were
consuming each other because there were eight Democrats that finally,
after forty two days, showed the courage to say, enough
is enough, Let's reopen the government. And the Democrats turned
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on each other with a viciousness that is truly extraordinary.
So here was a major story in the Washington Post headline,
Democrats pushed for a ruthlessly pragmatic approach to counter Trump.
And here's what the Post reported. The fury at eight
Democratic alligned senators who voted with Republicans to end the
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longest y government shutdown highlights the dramatic shift in the
Democratic Party less than a year into President Trump's second term,
as voters and lawmakers argue that the party needs to
adopt a more ruthless tactics to counter the president and
claw its way back to power. So listen, the Democrats
are saying the longest shutdown in history wasn't ruthless enough.
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It needs to be worse. Post continues. The reaction to
the two votes on Sunday and Monday, which provide a
pathway for the government to reopen after more than forty days,
was fierce. Representative Roe Kanna, Democrat from California, called for
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to be replaced, suggesting he
was an ineffective leader. Even though Schumer opposed the government
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funding measures. So Schumer voted no, but it doesn't matter.
They want to throw him out anyway. House Minority Leader
at Keem Jeffreys, Democrat New York, blasted the eight senators
and said the House Democrats would not support a government
funding bill that did not include the healthcare measures the
party has demanded. So today the Democrats, presumably all or
virtually all, are going to vote to keep the shutdown going.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I fully expect House Republicans will provide the votes needed
to send this to the president. But here's what the
post continues. Democratic advocacy groups, politically vulnerable lawmakers, potential twenty
twenty eight presidential candidates, and voters all followed suit, lambasting
those in the party they saw as caving. The desire
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for Democrats to hold firm despite the pain inflicted by
the shutdown, even though the party's prior posture was that
shutdowns are self destructive, was the latest sign that the
party has decided it must adopt an altogether different playbook
given Trump's willingness to resort to unprecedented measures to consolidate
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and maintain powers, rather than try to uphold norms as
the president shatters them, they have decided to fight Trump
with tactics they previously disdained, and they have excoriated those
who stood in the way, whether on redistricting or candidates
with problematic pasts. And here's one of my colleagues, Chris
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van Holland, one of the more liberal Democrats, quote, early on,
there were not enough members of Congress who recognized the
magnitude of the threat Donald Trump poses to our democracy
and constitution. That has changed. Van Holland said that there
were a few senators in what he has dubbed the
quote no business as usual caucus at the beginning of
Trump's term, but it has since grown dramatically in response
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to energy from the party's base. Quote the lesson is
there is power and unity and in members of Congress
working in partnership with the grassroots community. This is why
so many people are feeling let down at this moment,
because that unity was important. This is the reaction on
the Democrat side. They are Schumer is besieged from all sides.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
There are Democrats now that are basically like off with
his head and leadership. They want him gone. They're publicly
saying no, oh, yeah, this is the end of him.
He has done. MSNBC said it multiple times. CNN commentators
said the same thing, like he's done. They got to
get rid of him. His career's over. This goes back
to the being held hostage by the Marxists, the socialism
and communists of the Democratic Party. Now they didn't police him.
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Now they're running the party and they're anarchists. And Chuck
Schumer shut down the government for the longest period in
history of this country, and that wasn't good enough for them.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And he still voted no on reopening it. So he
shut it down for the longest in history. He voted
no consistently, and yet they're still off with his head.
It really is the crazies are driving the Democrat party.
And look, if you don't believe me, maybe you will
believe John Fetterman. I want you to listen to this exchange.
Senator John Fetterman, Democrat from Pennsylvania, was on the view
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and Sonny, you know, one of the left wing hosts
there comes after him and comes after him hard. Listen
to her unhinged question and then listen to Fetterman's response.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Well.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Senator Bernie Sanders said the vote was a horrific mistake.
Governor Gavin Newsom called it pathetic and a surrender. Poll
after poll found more Americans on both sides of the
aisle blaming Republicans. Even Marjorie Taylor Green blamed the GOP.
As you mentioned, Democrats have big wins last week, so
you had momentum. Why give in now? Why bring a
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butter knife to a gunfight. Are you willing to gamble
that the GOP will negotiate on healthcare in good faith
once the government reopens? Because if that gamble is wrong,
half a million Pennsylvanians that you represent, their healthcare cost
will skyrocket if you are wrong, and I believe you
are wrong.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Well, for first of all, MTG is quite literally the
last person in America that I'm going to take advice
or to get their kinds of my.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Leadership and values from.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
And now if Democrats are celebrating crazy pants, that then
that's on them. And now I don't need and I
don't need a lecture. I don't need a lecture from
from whether it's Bernie or the governor in California, because
they are representing very deep blue blue kinds of populations
and a lot of those things, a lot of those
things were part of the extreme. And I'll remember what
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really needs to win, to win the big win is
involving my state and other states and those things. And
why have we arrived here after the election a year ago.
We want to forget, we got to forget some of
the things that cost us that election are now for me,
it's like, that's why I'm trying to remind people that
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kinds of the extreme extreme newsm we can't return to
those kind of things and realize we need to find
a way forward. And I would like to rather than
cite MTG, I'm going to cite one of the new
governor elects saying that my election is not a green
light to continue this shutdown, because I promise you, this
isn't a political game. It is viewed by that by
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many of us. But the reality is forty two million
Americans now not sure where their next meal is going.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
To come from.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
And because we vote like that, vote like that or
people that haven't been paid for five weeks now and
that kinds of chaos. Those workers are more than half
a billion dollars, you know, from their credit union just
to pay their bills.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now you with him talking about paying their bills, and
I love that from Fetterman. There, they also were very
quiet because I didn't think I don't think they realized
he was going to come back with facts that way
and describe it. I jokingly said to you before the
show started, When's John Fetterman going to join the Republican
Party because he's been speaking an awful lot.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Of truth about the reality this shutdown.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Well, look, I like John Fetterman, and I will tell
you Republicans actually treated much more nicely than the Democrats do.
The Democrats are mean to him, they're vicious to him.
They that they really have a deep antipathy to him.
And the amazing thing he votes the overwhelming majority of
the time with the Democrats. You know, he's on the
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Commerce Committee with me. On virtually every vote he votes
party line with the Democrats. On most votes on the floor,
he votes party line with the Democrats. He has a
few defections. So he did vote to open the government,
and that's viewed as this great heresy because he didn't
want to have a force a government shut down and
hurt millions of Americans and continue the longest government shut
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down in history. And the main area that he's been
willing to dissent from. Virtually every other Congressional Democrat is
in support of Israel. And we've talked about before that
there is a real and cognizable pro Hamas caucus in
the Democrat Party. It rose up about ten years ago.
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The Democrats did nothing, They look the other way, and
it's now taken over their party. And Fetterman is a
massive outlier because he is genuinely pro Israel. He is
vocally pro Israel, and the radicals in the Democrat Party
hate him for that. And again, if you don't believe me,
listen to what John Fetterman said on exactly this topic.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
You are not Jewish, at least as far as I know.
Feel free to come, feel free to come out here
to me right now. But you have been one of
the most outspoken. It's beyond Washington, it's beyond politicians. You
have been one of the most outspoken people in American
life on the issue of anti Semitism.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Why is this issue so important to you?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Ironically I did that twenty three and me I'm ninety
seven percent German and three percent Neanderthal, and it's like,
maybe it's ironic that a big German guy from Pennsylvania
has been very absolutely devoted to Israel and to experience
the kind of anti Semitism and in my life, I mean,
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you know what you know, the Tree of Life, I mean,
that's that's where you're from, too. Absolutely appalling, and my
heart breaks for what the Jewish communities suffered, especially after
ten to seven. I've had the honor of meeting, you know,
members of the hostages, former people that were kept underground
for five hundred days. Five hundred days. I mean, those
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are heroes. I've met with widows their husbands were lost
in the gods of war and they have eight children,
raising eight children by their own. That's a hero for
all of it. So so for me, it's heartbreaking, and
that's been. What's so difficult for me is like being
devotion to Israel becoming increasingly incompatible with being a proud
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Democrat now too, and that's put me at odds. And
the things that put me at odds have all converged
at the same time, you know, the gods of war,
the peace deal, and then we moved right into a shutdown,
you know, like now Democrats might not be allowed to
hold these views, and I'm not changing my party. And
you know, run the numbers, run numbers, you know, you
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would find that I'm a I'm a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know, he is a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
But you've walked past his Senate office countless times. I've
walked past it probably dozens of times when I'm up
in DC, and he had all the hostage pictures up
in his front office, which I thought was incredible.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Look, he has been genuinely courageous and sincerely courageous on Israel,
and it's earned the absolute ire, hatred, animosity, venom of
the radical left in the Democrat Party. I mean, you
heard what he just said there, that that that being
pro Israel is becoming incompatible with being a proud Democrat.
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I mean, that's a that's a tragic statement. I wish
that statement were not true, but it is the biggest
reason why their radicals hate him and much of You know,
when he was first elected and he came into office,
he had a stroke during the campaign, and the stroke
was very debilitating. When John showed up, the stroke really
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limited Like when I first met him. What the stroke
did is it limited his ability to process auditory input.
So you would talk to him and his brain was
not able to process the words he was hearing, and
so he would carry with him an iPad that had
a translator because it just this is one of the
(21:31):
consequences that can be from a stroke, is your ability
to process words that you hear. Your brain just can't
put them together. So you would talk and he would
read it. But when he first got there, you would
talk to him and he would literally he was not
able to understand what you were saying. And I mean
it hurt your heart. I mean, this is a is
a very bright man. The man's a Harvard graduate, but
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he had a medical issue that he had real consequences.
Early on, the Democrats all circle around him and said,
you know, he's perfectly capable. There are no issues whatsoever,
because they assumed he would be a left wing Democrat,
that's what they expected of him. That was not a
crazy expectation going in. And then when he started standing up,
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particularly on Israel, standing up and defying the Prohamas Caucus,
you started seeing the Democrats leaking and planning stories and
really attacking his mental capability. And the irony is, look
you heard in those exchanges. He's now able to have
a conversation. He still is a little halting in his communication.
(22:36):
I think that's some of the aftermath of the stroke.
But the difference is night and day. You can now
have a conversation and he can hear you in a
way that when he showed up in the Senate he
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reporters to plant negative stories attacking him. Many of his
colleagues want to drive him out of the party, and
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at least on the Republicans side, I like John and
I think consistently all the Republicans are just trying to
be nice to him. By the way, they did the
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Cinema and mentioned I think Republicans were much nicer to
than Democrats were, and the consequence was they were both
driven out of the party.
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say about another gouvernment shut down early next year?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I think it is very likely when the CR expires
on January thirtieth. I don't see a fundamental dynamic that changes.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Maybe maybe maybe maybe the eight Democrats who cut the deal, now,
maybe on January thirtieth, they cut the deal at the
front end. That's possible, I can tell you. As we
were sitting there on Monday and they had cast the
initial vote on Sunday and they were getting savaged on
(26:23):
the Republican side, we felt a real urgency a vote
now now now, because look, we were very afraid one
of them would flip. I mean, I mean it. There
is typically a limit to how much abuse an elected
official can take, and the left wing base was savaging
those eight.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
We actually had a delay because John Kennedy, who's a
good friend of mine, was put in fact, he's been
on the podcast just a week ago. Yeah, John was
pressing for a resolution that says, if there's a shutdown,
senators will not be paid so long as federal workers
are not being paid, and as you know, I voluntarily
(27:07):
did that, so I have not taken a paycheck for
the entire length of this shutdown. I sent a written
letter to the Secretary of the Senate saying, hold my paycheck.
I'm not going to be paid as long as their
federal workers who are not being paid. So whenever the
at some point, I'll get my paychecks from the last
forty days in the next presumably few days, whenever the
other federal workers do. I don't know when that will come,
(27:29):
but many, and I think most of the Democrats did
not do that. They continued taking their paychecks throughout, which
was an incredible hypocrisy. And so Kennedy was pushing really
hard for saying, look, no senators should get paid while
there's a shutdown. He wanted a vote when we were
(27:50):
taking this up and voting on it. He wanted a
separate amendment vote on that. And it was a challenge
because the Democrats were refusing to give that amendment vote
and saying, if you get that amendment vote, then we
want a bunch of amendment votes, and so everything was
paralyzed and it could have delayed. Instead of the Senate
(28:10):
voting Monday night, it could have delayed till Tuesday or
Wednesday or Thursday. And I and many others were really
concerned if it delayed till Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday
for the Senate to vote, one or more of the
eight Democrats would get cold feet and flip. And so
actually the way it got resolved as I went to
John Kennedy's office, and he and I are good friends,
and I said, look, can we work something out? Because
(28:33):
he was really mad, he was frustrated that he couldn't
get his vote. I said, can we work something out
that lets us vote to reopen the government and get
you what you want? And so we cut an agreement
that next week the Rules Committee on which I serve,
is going to vote on John Kennedy's resolution, and I
(28:53):
think we're going to vote it out of the Rules
Committee and put it on the Senate floor and we'll
vote on the Senate floor right after Thanksgiving on Careannity's provision.
And I asked him, look, would you be willing to
accept a vote on this that it's separate that doesn't
delay the overall funding bill, Because if we delay it,
if one of these Democrats get cold feet. We could
have another week, two, three, four weeks of shutdown and
(29:15):
none of us want that. And Kennedy he was angry,
but he said yes, he would agree to that. I'm
really glad John did that. That was the right thing.
But he's fighting for something he really believes in. So
I was able to go to leadership and say, look,
you guys need to commit to have the vote in
the rules committee and the vote on the floor. And
leadership did make that commitment, and that was the pivotal
(29:38):
piece that got us to a vote Monday night to
reopen the government.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Thirty days from now. What do you think the fallout's
going to actually be. I think people are so fast
to get back to normal. The holidays are coming. I
think that's going to be sending reputer just like, all right,
everything's fine my normal chaos as long as we don't
have chaos and the skuy's outside of the normal chaos
with it when it comes to Thanksgiving or Christmas travel,
I'm good. We're pretty selfish as a people. Now, let's
(30:04):
just be honest about it. So it's a lot of
it is Hey, if it doesn't affect me, is it
really happening? This happens now, and is there going to
be fallout or accountability on either side.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, Look, people will remember what impacted themselves and their families.
So if your food stamps got delayed, you'll remember that.
That will abate a real difference. If your paycheck got delayed,
that will impact you know. I was having a conversation
with the Capitol Police officer yesterday, and this was a
Capitol Police officer who was a veteran, had been around
a while, and he was talking about how they were
(30:35):
giving grief to like some of the rookies who were
brand new. He said, there was a class straight out
of the academy who started like two days before the shutdown,
and you know, these are all really you know, young
men and women twenty two to twenty three years old,
and this is like their first job and suddenly they're
not getting paid. And he did say that the veteran
(30:56):
Capitol Police officers were basically giving grief to the young
rookies and being like, oh, you're new to this game,
and you know, shutdowns are part of working for the
federal government, and but you know a lot of these
young guys don't have much savings, so they were a
little bit shell shocked from it. Those folks will remember,
but most Americans, if it didn't impact you. The biggest
(31:20):
way that a lot of Americans were impacted was flight
delays and flight delays and cancelations. The people who had
their trip to visit their mom canceled, the trip to
go to a funeral in the family, the trip to
go on family vacation, the trip to go on a
work trip. People will be annoyed at that. Now, look,
it's November, we'll move into Thanksgiving. I think by Thanksgiving,
(31:43):
the air traffic we'll be back to normal, so it
won't be an additional burden. And then we'll get into
Christmas and the holidays. And do I think by December
one the shutdown is going to be front and center
in anyone's mind. Not really, But then we're going to
get January thirtieth, And I mentioned in the last podcast
it was really important that we had the continuing Resolution.
(32:07):
There was a big push to get it to expire
on like December twenty first. Yeah, that was a terrible
idea because often if government funding expires right before Christmas. Look, obviously,
every member of Congress wants to get home to be
with their family for Christmas. That's that's natural. You know,
most of us have kids. You want to be with
your kids for Christmas. That leads frequently to really bad deals.
(32:29):
There's an old phrase that jet fumes get in the air,
that people are really anxious to get out of town,
so they'll agree to horrible deals. So the Conservatives, I
was pressing hard, do not end it right before Christmas.
We need to go into January so we don't have
that pressure pushing people to make a bad deal. And thankfully,
and I'll give John Thune credit, John Thune leaned in
(32:49):
and said, we're going till January thirtieth. That's what's in there.
We will have this same fight at the end of January.
But that at least gives us some more time and
some more time to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
You know, it's interesting if you look at the takeaway here.
It took forty days, longest shut down in government history,
and it seems that Democrats are just saying, we'll kick
the can down the road a couple months. We may
have another government shut down. We're going to keep holding
the American people hostage. We're not learning from any of this,
and this is a scary way that the government's being
(33:24):
run right now. But this is what happens when you
have the extreme left who is hell bent on hurting
Americans to get their way when they don't win an election,
and that's what this is really all about for them.
We'll keep you updated on all of it.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Rage is not Rage is not an agenda. Anger is
not an agenda. Hate is not an agenda. And unfortunately
on the far left in the Democrat Party, that is
what they are for is rage, hate, and anger. And
we're going to see more chaos, We're going to see
more holding the American people hostage because it's a direct
(34:00):
outgrowth of that rage and hate anger.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Don't forget to share this podcast, by the way, with
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talk to you again tomorrow.
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