November 17, 2025 • 31 mins
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Trump’s Strategic Move on Epstein Files
- Donald Trump publicly calls for the House to release all Jeffrey Epstein-related files.
- Frames the release as transparency and a way to expose Democratic ties to Epstein.
- Suggests Democrats are using Epstein as a political weapon against Trump.
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Government Shutdown Outcome
- Analysis of CBS polling showing Americans believe Republicans and Trump won the shutdown negotiations.
- We highlight internal Democratic conflict (AOC vs. Senate Democrats) and criticism of Chuck Schumer’s leadership.
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Michelle Obama’s Statement on Presidential Run
- Michelle Obama claims America is “not ready” for a female president.
- Hosts interpret this as arrogance and dismissiveness, framing Democrats as unwilling to self-reflect after electoral losses.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
It's so nice to have you with us, and Centator.
We can start with some very interesting news. It seems
like Democrats are playing checkers. Donald Trump is playing chess.
He got them to go all in on Epstein everything.
Now Trump's like, all right, fine, let's see it. No,
by the way, I think we should be investigating a
(00:21):
bunch of people that were hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein
as well. I don't think Democrats had that on their
bingo cards.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, I don't think they did. Sunday night, President Trump
called on the House of Representatives to vote for releasing
all the Epstein files. This is a big deal. We're
gonna break it down why he did it, and what
it means. We'ress gonna talk about the polling numbers that
have come down that showed decisively the Democrats lost the shutdown.
It did not go well for them. The American people
view it as the shutdown, the end of the shutdown
(00:50):
as a major victory for President Trump and Republicans. We're
gonna break that down as well. And finally, we're gonna
talk about Michelle Obama did an amazing interview that week
in which she was asked if she would run for president,
and she basically said no, the American people are too
much of bigots to an elective woman. That apparently is
why Kamala Harris lost is because the voters are all
(01:13):
secret misogynists. And Michelle Obama of why she will not
grace us with her presence is the same. All of
that we're going to get into in detail right now.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, it's truly incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
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Compassion dot com, all right. So, Senata, this has been
a very interesting couple of weeks with the Epstein files.
You probably dealt with it the same way I have.
(02:52):
The media is like obsessed with it all of a
sudden out of nowhere. They were they didn't give a
damn about the victims for literally years and years and years,
but now they think they hurt Donald Trump somehow with
the Epstein files, so they're obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And I said this to the night on CNN.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I said, I genuinely wish that you guys, and I
was referring to the liberals on the show, and the
host cared about the victims of Jeffrey Everstein this much
years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And they didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
But this time it's only about trying to hurt Donald Trump. Now,
Donald Trump seems to be playing chess in an amazing way, saying,
all right, fine, hey, I'm in favor of doing it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Now, let's vote on it. Let's get it done.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And not only that, I want to investigate people that
were in around Epstein to see what may have been
covered up, and that includes names like Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well Sunday night, Donald Trump said out a lengthy truth
on Truth's Social Here's what he said. He said quote
as I said on Friday night aboard Air Force one
to the fake news media House, Republicans should vote to
release the Epstein files because we have nothing to hide
and it's time to move on from this Democrat hoax
perpetuated by the rat left lunatics in order to deflect
(04:02):
from the great success of the Republican Party, including our
recent victory on the Democrats shutdown. The Department of Justice
has already turned over tens of thousands of pages to
the public on Epstein and are looking at various Democrat operatives.
Bill Clinton, Reid Hoffman, Larry Summers, etc. And their relationship
to Epstein and the House Oversight Committee can have whatever
(04:25):
they are legit and titled to. I don't care. I
don't care as in all caps. All I do care
about is that the Republicans get back on point, back
on points in all caps, which is the economy affordability,
where we are winning big, our victory on reducing inflation
from the highest level in history to practically nothing, bringing
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down prices for the American people, delivering historic tax cuts,
gaining trillions of dollars of investment into America a record
in all caps, the rebuilding of our military, securing our border,
deporting criminal illegal aliens, ending men and women's sports, stopping
transgender for everyone, and so much more. Nobody cared about
(05:07):
Jeffrey Epstein when he was alive, and if the Democrats
had anything, they would have released it before our landslide
election victory. I'm going to come back to that in
a minute. Some quote members of the Republican Party are
being used, and we can't let that happen. Let's start
talking about the Republican Party's record setting achievements and not
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fall into the Epstein trap, which is actually a curse
on the Democrats, not us make America great again. So
that tweet went out Sunday night. I got to say,
it's breaking news, and I think it's a big deal.
I fully expect the House we'll do exactly what President
Trump urged them to do, which is vote to release
(05:53):
the files, and hopefully the President is right that that
will put the constant obsession about the Epstein files behind
us for the media, because I understand the media is
not upset and obsessed over the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
They're not obsessed over protecting the teenage girls who were
(06:13):
sexually assaulted. They're obsessed over one thing, which is attacking
Donald Trump. If it's not attacking Donald Trump, they have
zero interest. By the way, the Democrats, if it's not
attacking Donald Trump, they have zero interest. And one of
the important things to understand, Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat.
Jeffrey Epstein was a major Democrat donor. Jeffrey Epstein was
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one of the major fob's friends of Bills a very
close to Bill Clinton. Jeffrey Epstein was so close to
Bill Clinton that in his New York home, he had
hanging on the wall a painting a Bill Clinton in
Monica Lewinsky's blue dress wearing red pumps. Now that is
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weird and freudian, and I'm very glad I was not
Jeffrey Epstein's shrink because I don't want to know what's
going on inside of his mind that he's fantasizing about
Bill Clinton in a blue dress with red pumps. But
at the end of the day, this guy was a
massive donor to Democrats, including Bill Clinton, including Chuck Schumer,
including Nancy Pelosi, and the Democrats have engaged in one
(07:22):
of the most incredible political ju jitsus that I think
has ever happened, because they've tried to hang this scandal
around Donald Trump's neck and what he said Sunday night
is enough of this already. Vote to release the files.
We're witting, we're winning every day, and this is about Democrats.
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We're not going to pretend it's about anything else.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
By the way, there was also another really big story
that was connected to this the media did not want
to cover either. It wasn't Republicans that Epstein was texting
during apparently hearings on Capitol Hill. Epstein was texting House
Democrats during the Michael Cohen hearing, uh and trying to
give advice on how to hurt Donald Trump. That is
(08:08):
like completely been admitted by the media. They are not
going to cover the story that Epstein was literally texting
trying to hurt Donald Trump, texting Democrats in real time
like you're if you've ever watched Congress Center during a
hearing and they look at their phone, Epstein's texting what
you should be saying or doing.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That's insane House Democrats while they're cross examining witnesses trying
to attack Donald Trump. Jeffrey Epstein was like, Okay, ask
this now, ask this, and and and and the Democrat
congresswoman was doing that, and and and and this is
that broke this week. And of course the corporate media
doesn't want to cover it because their narrative is Epstein
equals Donald Trump. At the end of the day, Epstein
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was a major Democrat donor. And I gotta say, the
most important sentence in what Trump tweeted is is is
the following. Nobody cared about Jeffrey Epstein when he was alive.
And if the Democrats had anything, they would have released
it before our landslide election victory. So understand all the
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Epstein files were in the possession of the Biden Department
of Justice. Yep, they were in the possession of the
Biden FBI. Now I know that the corporate media, their
hearts are going pitter path. They want some incredibly damning
evidence of Donald Trump committing a crime. They want video
of Donald Trump committing a crime. They've been dreaming about
that forever and ever and ever. And I just want
(09:34):
to ask you. I want to ask you what Trump
said if there were evidence of that, and the Biden
Justice Department, the most politicized, politically weaponized department of Justice
in the history of this country, had it, what are
the chances that they would not have released it before
election day last year? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Zero percent chance. I mean they of course they would
have used it. They would have leaked at their masters
at leaking. If there was anything they could come up
with to hurt Trump, they will use it. Hell, they'll
even make up stuff like the Stele dossier to try
to hurt Trump. I mean, there's nothing they won't do
to try to bring him down, including trying to connect
the Epstein files now to Donald Trump, which there again
this goes back their obsession. They don't care about the victims.
(10:16):
They only care about hurting Donald Trump, orange man bat.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, and look, I assume somewhere in the vast files
there is something that is embarrassing to some Republican somewhere.
I assume that sure, because there was clearly some hesitancy
to release this information. They haven't done so. But everything
we know about it is the overwhelming weight of the
evidence is a bunch of corrupt Democrats who were on
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Jeffrey Epstein's plane on the Lalita Express, who went to
his island, and who presumably participated in sexually assaulting underage girls.
And I've said for a long time, release that all
make it public. If anyone has sexually assaulted an underage girl,
prosecute them. And so I think Donald Trump and the
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Trump White House said, all right, fine, if some Republican
is embarrassed by some glancing reference, and I have no
idea what it is, I haven't seen these files, so
be it. But the bulk of the evidence, from everything
we know, is going to be evidence that is a real,
real problem for I suspect a significant number of Democrats.
(11:22):
I'm glad the President did this. I'm hopeful the House
can vote, we can put this behind it, and then
we can have some real accountability to people who committed
criminal acts and and hurt underage girls.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
When all this comes out, and if it does go
the way that we believe it is, we're just gonna
it's all gonna be there. What is the obligation then,
and what can people expect will happen afterwards? From a
congressional oversight perspective.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't know. I think you will see Congress engage
in some oversight. You know, I've talked in this podcast
before how Pambondi, the Attorney General, told me there were
significant videos that they were in the process of reviewing
to make sure they're protecting the victims. Obviously that's important,
you want to protect the victims. There are also, as
I understand it, limitations in terms of what can be
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released publicly based on orders from federal judges. My understanding
again is those judges are all judges appointed by Democrat presidents,
and so DOJ feels some constraints because of those judicial
orders in terms of what they can release. I'd like
it all to be public, make it all public, have
there be accountability across the board, and I think the
President's tweet Sunday night is a big step in that direction.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I want to play with Donald Trump, I had to
say before he got on the plane to return back
to Washington, before this tweet was put out, and he
got in the face of reporter who asked him a question,
trying to again make this into some sort of ap
scene Trump connection.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Take a listen to what he said.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Fake news like you, you're a terrible reporter, and fake
news like you. They just keep bringing that up to
deflect from the tremendous success of the Trump administration. So
a guy like Massy, his full numbers is showing, he said,
six percent approval rating right now, and we call him
Ran Paul Junior because he never votes for the Republican Party.
(13:15):
So that using Jeffrey Epstein as a deflection from the
tremendous success that we're having as a party.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know, I do think there's politics here. President Trump's
figured that out, and he's like, they just bring this
crap up whenever they want to start hitting me on
something because they don't want to talk about something else.
And that's why I think you so irritated. And it's
also I think the reason why on the plane decided,
all right, forget it. I'm all in on this one.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Let's go well and listen. The substante point about his
tweet is exactly right that we have seen major historic
victories the past year. You look at illegal immigration. We
went from the worst invasion of this country in history
twelve million illegals by far the highest rate ever, to
illegal border crossings dropping more than ninety nine percent. When's
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the last time the corporate media covered that. They don't
cover that, the fact that this crisis that was endangering
Americans across this country, President Trump has solved that. You
look at the one big beautiful bill you and I
have talked about before. There are more conservative victories in
that one big beautiful bill than any legislation that has
ever passed into law, including more than four trillion dollars
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in tax cuts, including no taxes on tips, no taxes
on overtime, no taxes on Social Security, including the provision
I authored, the largest federal school choice provision in history,
that is going to help millions of kids across America
get access to an excellent education, including the Trump accounts
that is going to make every child in America an
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owner of the biggest companies in America. These are landmark victories,
and I think the President is frustrated that not enough
Republicans are talking about that, the media is not talking
about that. And I think this is his efforts to say, look,
let's focus on our real success as the president as
a result of his leadership, where seeing trillions of dollars
(15:01):
of new investments in the US economy, opening new factories.
I'm talking to CEOs every week who are talking about
making massive new investments in America, creating jobs. Then I
think the President quite rightly says that's what we should
be talking about, how we're making a difference in the
lives of Americans, not the Democrats political game trying to
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blame this Democrat donor who was a pedophile, trying to
blame him on Republicans. I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
By the way you go back to what the Republicans
have done compared to what the Democrats have done. It's
a great segue into some data that we now have,
and it may explain why the Democrats, eight of them,
decide to go along with the Republicans after the longest
shut down in American history. It also, in theory if
there is sanity in the Democratic Party could tell you
(15:52):
a lot about what may or may not happen come
January with another government shut down, and that is the Democrats.
This isn't because I'm saying it. The polling is now
saying it. Democrats lost on the issue of the government shutdown.
Let's break those numbers down for everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, So, CBS News conducted a poll. Here's what CBS
News tweeted. Quote. By a wide margin, Americans say it
was Republicans and President Trump who succeeded in getting more
of what they wanted from negotiations to end the shutdown.
This survey recontacted americans first interviewed in our early November
poll while the shutdown was in effect. And here's what
(16:33):
CBS concluded ending the shutdown. Who got more of what
they wanted? Trump and Republicans? What percent do you think
it has been?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Fifty five percent?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
There you go?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
How about Democrats? Do you think it's close?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I'm going to go probably not six percent.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Fifty say Trump and Republicans got more of what they wanted,
six percent say Democrats did, fifteen percent say both equally,
and twenty four percent say neither. So that's what CBS.
CBS is hardly this right wing source, CBS is concluding
the American people clearly see this as a loss for Democrats.
(17:14):
And I want you to listen to Tim Kane. So
Tim Kaine is, as you know, a Democrat senator from Virginia.
Virginia has an awful lot of federal employees who went
forty three days without being paid, without getting a paycheck,
many of whom were frustrated, and Tim Kaine, by the way,
voted for reopening the government. And so I want you
(17:36):
to listen to Tim Kaine when he's being asked about
AOC attacking Senate Democrats for being willing to open the
government at all. Give a listen. The lesson that they're
learning is that Democrats are met and that next.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Time you just need to hurt working people and working
Americans more to get them to fold. And I don't
want them to learn that lesson.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Senator, what do you say to that argument that Democrats'
projected weakness here?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
So twofold, I have three hundred and twenty thousand federal
employees in Virginia, and together with their families, that's probably
seven hundred thousand dependents getting them all back to work
with two paychecks that they've missed, restored with protections against
future firings. You know, some folks like AOC may think
that's nothing. Virginians think it's an awful lot. And second,
(18:26):
if the goal was to try to get healthcare front
and center, she was not at the table with the
Republicans in the Senate, and so maybe she thinks that
the Republicans would have caved. Would it have been another
week of SNAP recipients losing their SNAP benefits, another month
of air traffic or air travelers enduring chaos and even danger,
(18:48):
another two months of federal employees losing their paychecks. I
was at the table with the Republican senators, and I
knew if we wanted to get to the healthcare discussion,
we had to open up government.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I mean, this is a little bit of a civil war.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think you're witnessing on on live TV if you're
watching Meet the Press, Tim Kay and Kan is exactly
like the most like conservative guy in the world of
the Democratic Party is pretty progressively liberal. AOC there, and look,
I think this is gonna be the fight they're gonna
have come January. Right, are the are they gonna be
held hostage again by the AOC's the party or will
(19:24):
the saying look at the poll numbers and say we
can't do that again.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It didn't work out for us.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah. And by the way, the Civil War is playing out.
You know, Tim Kaine voted for reopening the government. The
other Virginia Senator, Mark Warner, did not. Mark Warner voted
to keep the government shut down. And by the way,
you know which one of them is on the ballot
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Which one is that Mark Warner.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So every one of the federal government employees who didn't
get paid, Mark Warner voted even on day forty three, no,
we're not gonna pay you. And now, now look the
Virginia gubernatorial election. You had Democrat turnout because they're hardcore
partisans were mad, but the Virginia gubernatorial election was a
(20:08):
not a terribly high turnout election. It's an interesting decision.
Usually when you have two senators from the same party
from the same state, they vote as a pair because
they don't like to have a distinction. Mark Warner is
not going to enjoy for the next year being asked,
why didn't you vote with Tim Kaine to reopen the government.
That is a problem for Mark Warner, and ultimately I assume, look,
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Mark Warner styles himself. He calls himself a moderate Democrat.
Now he votes with Chuck Schumer virtually every single time.
But Schumer himself has a fundamental problem. I mean, when
you said Democrat civil war, that's not hyperbole. And it
is the reason we had the Schumer shutdown, the largest
(20:57):
longest government shutdown in American history, is because Schumer as
a political crisis. His left wing wants to take him
out and fire him, end his job. By the way,
the second longest government shut down in history was the
first Schumer shut down under the first Trump term. So
Chuck Schumer has spots one and two in the record books.
But even though Chuck Schumer threw this temper tantrum, shut
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the government down, didn't pay federal government employees, inflicted enormous
pain on the American people, even though we did all
of that to show his crazies, he hates Trump as
much as they did. Even though on day forty three
of the shutdown, Chuck Schumer still voted no, don't reopen
the government. You know what, the radicals still want to
throw him out. Of office. It wasn't enough. Take a listen
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to Tim Kaine being asked about whether Schumer should.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Be fired the Democratic Party. More than a dozen House
members are calling for Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer to
step down, including my next guest, Congressman Roe Kanna, Senator.
Given this, given that so many Democrats are calling for
leadership to step aside, can he be an effective leader?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yes, Chuck has been an effective leader. Remember when Chuck
was Majority leader during the Biden administration, he produced a
string of legislative wins with a bare majority, nearly unparalleled
in recent history. Infrastructure, the American Rescue Plan, the Inflation
and Reduction Act, fixing the Electoral College, first gun safety
bill in twenty five years, an important veterans legislation. Being
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a minority leader is tough in the Senate. We have
some tools in minority, but not many. We don't control
what's on the floor. And you know, if you're dealing
with senators and Kristin you do. It's not exactly like
senators just get in line and follow the leader. So
I don't tell Rocanna or AOC or anybody else who
you should pick as your House leader, because I got
(22:51):
a full time job being a senator. I don't need
to freelance opinions about House leadership. They should focus on
their own leadership and let senators do what we need
to do to keep this country moving forward.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I mean, saty, this is just a straight up problem
for Democrats now right. They don't know who their leaders are,
they don't know who they're standing behind, they don't know
who they want to be in charge. And yet they
just were able to shut down the government and claim
they were successful.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And now that's even a backfire.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Look, this is Democrat on democrat political warfare. This is
a civil war.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It reminds me of the old quip that Ronald Reagan
used to say, which is the problem with Republicans is
the right hand doesn't know what the far right hand
is doing. This is an instance where for Democrats, the
left hand doesn't know what the far left hand is
doing other than they are punching each other. They are
fighting like crazy. And so it really is striking to
see Tim Kaine going on a Sunday show and getting
(23:45):
asked AOC says, you guys suck, and Rocanna says Chuck
Schumer should be fired. What say you and he's like,
they should butt out and let us be sentate Democrats
because we're screwing things up so badly that we're really
good at it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And if you think that, by the way, that the
only ones that are just can right now, you would
be wrong. Let's move to Michelle Obama. She has come
out and basically said, I will not grace you with
my presence as a president of the United States America.
You don't deserve me because there's too many massagists out
there and I'm not gonna give you my candidacy.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah. She was asked whether or not she would run
for president. Her response was, as we saw in this
past election, sadly, we ain't ready. That's why I'm like,
don't even look at me about running, because you all
are lying. You're not ready for a woman. You are not.
And she says, you know, we've got a lot of
growing up to do, and there's still, sadly a lot
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of men who do not feel like they can be
led by a woman. And we saw it what utter
and complete nonsense by the way, Joe Biden was getting
his ass kicked. Now, I understand the Democrats can't tell
the difference between a man and a woman. So maybe Michelle.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Obama, a woman, is right that thinks that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Joe Biden is a woman. But Trump was winning when
Biden was the nominee. Trump was winning when Michelle Obama
was the nominee. Trump was winning a because the Biden
Harris Democrat agenda was a train wreck that hurt the
American people, and b because the American people wanted President
Trump back in the oval office. Here, I want you
to give a listen to exactly what Michelle Obama said,
(25:19):
Give a listen.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Do you think that that impacts the room that we've
made for a woman to be president? Well, as we
saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready. That's
why I'm like, don't even look at me about running
because you all are lying you're not ready for a woman.
You are not, So don't waste my time. You know,
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we got a lot of growing up to do, and
theyre's still I'm sadly a lot of men who do
not feel like they can be led by a woman.
And we saw it.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
What was the question I just said, m So we
don't need to ask it again. Answer.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I mean, you listen to that, and the room goes
wild with women. It was clearly a female audience that
she's talking with there.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It was also a feminine man. Don't don't, don't forget.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Oh, that's true. We can't assume, I mean, this.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Is this is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yes, we can't assume from the high pitchedness of the
screams in the room that it was actually when it
could women, it could be people that identify as a woman.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's true. Valid point. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
When you have a male who's taking estrogen and like
wearing a tight strap to like tuck in, they have
pretty high squeels.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well you know they jope during the holidays and shavit
target get those tucking swimsuits for them, right, And half
of them used to work at the White House anyway,
so there's always that as well. When I heard that,
When I heard that, I laughed because I thought it
was so funny. One, I don't think there's a bunch
of people that are wanting her to run run right
now for for president. Her best shout at it would
(26:56):
have been a coronation like we had with with with
Kamala Harris that obviously didn't happen. But she's like you basically,
don't deserve me. That is the weirdest Jedi mind trick
political thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, look, it's just arrogance, and you're right, had she
wanted to do it, they would have handed it to
her instead of Kamala Harris and you and I talked
about this a lot on this podcast. By the way,
this podcast predicted more than a year before the Democrat
Party pulled the rug out from under Joe Biden. We
predicted on Verdict. Regular listens to Verdict. No, we regularly
(27:29):
make predictions. We make predictions that frankly are risky, that
are out there, and the overwhelming majority of the predictions
we make on this podcast have come true. When you
and I said a year before Joe Biden was yanked
unceremoniously off the ticket, that Biden would be pulled off
the ticket, you and I, and by that I mainly
(27:51):
mean me. I was mocked mercilessly.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Hold on, I agreed with you at the time. Give
me a little no.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, you did agree with me, but they didn't make
fun of you. The press went after me and says
Cruise is a moon bat numbskull. I think they kind
of bake into the cake that you're a moon bat numbskull.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So I do host this show with you. So there's that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, it's guilt by association. Sorry about that, but like
literally the corporate media went crazy. They had episodes mocking me.
What a crazy thing for Cruz to say, Biden's not
going to be the nominee. Obviously, anyone with any sense
at all knows he's going to be the nominee. Well,
we were right, and if Michelle Obama had wanted it,
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she would have been the nominee last time. We predicted
that as well. She didn't want it, but the dripping
arrogance of her, you know, you listen to her comments.
The American people have a lot of growing up to do. Yeah,
like the absolute condescension. You people are too immature to
elect my magnificence. Why not because my ideas are terrible,
(28:58):
Not because the Democrat ideas are horrible and have resulted
in open borders, have resulted in people being murdered and
women being raped and children being assaulted. Not because we
had rampant inflation, not because Joe Biden. The Democrats caused
war all over the earth, turned peace and prosperity into
a war in Ukraine and October seventh and a war
in Gaza. You know, not because every single thing we
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touched turned to absolute garbage. No, no, no, no, That's not
the reason Kamala Harris lost resoundingly. The reason, according to
the leftist ideology, is you all are bigots and your
racist and your sexist. And that's the only possible reason.
And I got to say that contemptuous condescension is one
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of the worst characteristics of the Democrat Party today. But
it also does indicate this is not a party that
is reassessing. You know, normally, we lose an election, and
you lose an election badly. At least some people with
sense in the part to go, huh, wonder why the
voters rejected what we said. Maybe we should change, you know,
(30:04):
you think back to in nineteen eighty Reagan was elected.
In eighty four, Reagan was re elected one forty nine
out of fifty states, came within a few thousand votes
of winning every single state in the Union. Reagan won California,
New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, every state Minnesota. Nineteen eighty eight,
George Herbert walker Bush was elected and after losing three
(30:27):
consecutive presidential races. Democrats said, huh, maybe nominating Jimmy Carter
and Walter Mondale and Michael Dukaucus was a bad idea.
Maybe crazy left wing loons do not command a majority
in American What did they do? They pivoted, They moved
dramatically towards the center, and they nominated what was then
a moderate to conservative Democrat, the governor of Arkansas named
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Bill Clinton. And Bill Clinton won two consecutive elections because
they shifted. You know what, I don't see any Democrats
doing that right now. I don't see them looking in
saying why did we get clobbered? Why did did Trump
win all seven of the swing states? I don't see
Democrats saying that at all. And Michelle Obama saying, you
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people are a bunch of biggots in sexists and you
just need to grow up. You know what I'm saying,
Whoever the Democrat nominee is in twenty eight, please make
Michelle Obama your spokesperson, because we really need her lecturing
the American people how much the voter suck. Because you
know that historically has proved such an effective way to campaign.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Amen to that, don't forget we do this show Monday,
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Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
It's so nice to have you with us, and Centator.
We can start with some very interesting news. It seems
like Democrats are playing checkers. Donald Trump is playing chess.
He got them to go all in on Epstein everything.
Now Trump's like, all right, fine, let's see it. No,
by the way, I think we should be investigating a
(00:21):
bunch of people that were hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein
as well. I don't think Democrats had that on their
bingo cards.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, I don't think they did. Sunday night, President Trump
called on the House of Representatives to vote for releasing
all the Epstein files. This is a big deal. We're
gonna break it down why he did it, and what
it means. We'ress gonna talk about the polling numbers that
have come down that showed decisively the Democrats lost the shutdown.
It did not go well for them. The American people
view it as the shutdown, the end of the shutdown
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as a major victory for President Trump and Republicans. We're
gonna break that down as well. And finally, we're gonna
talk about Michelle Obama did an amazing interview that week
in which she was asked if she would run for president,
and she basically said no, the American people are too
much of bigots to an elective woman. That apparently is
why Kamala Harris lost is because the voters are all
(01:13):
secret misogynists. And Michelle Obama of why she will not
grace us with her presence is the same. All of
that we're going to get into in detail right now.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, it's truly incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
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Compassion dot com, all right. So, Senata, this has been
a very interesting couple of weeks with the Epstein files.
You probably dealt with it the same way I have.
(02:52):
The media is like obsessed with it all of a
sudden out of nowhere. They were they didn't give a
damn about the victims for literally years and years and years,
but now they think they hurt Donald Trump somehow with
the Epstein files, so they're obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And I said this to the night on CNN.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I said, I genuinely wish that you guys, and I
was referring to the liberals on the show, and the
host cared about the victims of Jeffrey Everstein this much
years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And they didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
But this time it's only about trying to hurt Donald Trump. Now,
Donald Trump seems to be playing chess in an amazing way, saying,
all right, fine, hey, I'm in favor of doing it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Now, let's vote on it. Let's get it done.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And not only that, I want to investigate people that
were in around Epstein to see what may have been
covered up, and that includes names like Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well Sunday night, Donald Trump said out a lengthy truth
on Truth's Social Here's what he said. He said quote
as I said on Friday night aboard Air Force one
to the fake news media House, Republicans should vote to
release the Epstein files because we have nothing to hide
and it's time to move on from this Democrat hoax
perpetuated by the rat left lunatics in order to deflect
(04:02):
from the great success of the Republican Party, including our
recent victory on the Democrats shutdown. The Department of Justice
has already turned over tens of thousands of pages to
the public on Epstein and are looking at various Democrat operatives.
Bill Clinton, Reid Hoffman, Larry Summers, etc. And their relationship
to Epstein and the House Oversight Committee can have whatever
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they are legit and titled to. I don't care. I
don't care as in all caps. All I do care
about is that the Republicans get back on point, back
on points in all caps, which is the economy affordability,
where we are winning big, our victory on reducing inflation
from the highest level in history to practically nothing, bringing
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down prices for the American people, delivering historic tax cuts,
gaining trillions of dollars of investment into America a record
in all caps, the rebuilding of our military, securing our border,
deporting criminal illegal aliens, ending men and women's sports, stopping
transgender for everyone, and so much more. Nobody cared about
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Jeffrey Epstein when he was alive, and if the Democrats
had anything, they would have released it before our landslide
election victory. I'm going to come back to that in
a minute. Some quote members of the Republican Party are
being used, and we can't let that happen. Let's start
talking about the Republican Party's record setting achievements and not
(05:32):
fall into the Epstein trap, which is actually a curse
on the Democrats, not us make America great again. So
that tweet went out Sunday night. I got to say,
it's breaking news, and I think it's a big deal.
I fully expect the House we'll do exactly what President
Trump urged them to do, which is vote to release
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the files, and hopefully the President is right that that
will put the constant obsession about the Epstein files behind
us for the media, because I understand the media is
not upset and obsessed over the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
They're not obsessed over protecting the teenage girls who were
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sexually assaulted. They're obsessed over one thing, which is attacking
Donald Trump. If it's not attacking Donald Trump, they have
zero interest. By the way, the Democrats, if it's not
attacking Donald Trump, they have zero interest. And one of
the important things to understand, Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat.
Jeffrey Epstein was a major Democrat donor. Jeffrey Epstein was
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one of the major fob's friends of Bills a very
close to Bill Clinton. Jeffrey Epstein was so close to
Bill Clinton that in his New York home, he had
hanging on the wall a painting a Bill Clinton in
Monica Lewinsky's blue dress wearing red pumps. Now that is
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weird and freudian, and I'm very glad I was not
Jeffrey Epstein's shrink because I don't want to know what's
going on inside of his mind that he's fantasizing about
Bill Clinton in a blue dress with red pumps. But
at the end of the day, this guy was a
massive donor to Democrats, including Bill Clinton, including Chuck Schumer,
including Nancy Pelosi, and the Democrats have engaged in one
(07:22):
of the most incredible political ju jitsus that I think
has ever happened, because they've tried to hang this scandal
around Donald Trump's neck and what he said Sunday night
is enough of this already. Vote to release the files.
We're witting, we're winning every day, and this is about Democrats.
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We're not going to pretend it's about anything else.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
By the way, there was also another really big story
that was connected to this the media did not want
to cover either. It wasn't Republicans that Epstein was texting
during apparently hearings on Capitol Hill. Epstein was texting House
Democrats during the Michael Cohen hearing, uh and trying to
give advice on how to hurt Donald Trump. That is
(08:08):
like completely been admitted by the media. They are not
going to cover the story that Epstein was literally texting
trying to hurt Donald Trump, texting Democrats in real time
like you're if you've ever watched Congress Center during a
hearing and they look at their phone, Epstein's texting what
you should be saying or doing.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That's insane House Democrats while they're cross examining witnesses trying
to attack Donald Trump. Jeffrey Epstein was like, Okay, ask
this now, ask this, and and and and the Democrat
congresswoman was doing that, and and and and this is
that broke this week. And of course the corporate media
doesn't want to cover it because their narrative is Epstein
equals Donald Trump. At the end of the day, Epstein
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was a major Democrat donor. And I gotta say, the
most important sentence in what Trump tweeted is is is
the following. Nobody cared about Jeffrey Epstein when he was alive.
And if the Democrats had anything, they would have released
it before our landslide election victory. So understand all the
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Epstein files were in the possession of the Biden Department
of Justice. Yep, they were in the possession of the
Biden FBI. Now I know that the corporate media, their
hearts are going pitter path. They want some incredibly damning
evidence of Donald Trump committing a crime. They want video
of Donald Trump committing a crime. They've been dreaming about
that forever and ever and ever. And I just want
(09:34):
to ask you. I want to ask you what Trump
said if there were evidence of that, and the Biden
Justice Department, the most politicized, politically weaponized department of Justice
in the history of this country, had it, what are
the chances that they would not have released it before
election day last year? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Zero percent chance. I mean they of course they would
have used it. They would have leaked at their masters
at leaking. If there was anything they could come up
with to hurt Trump, they will use it. Hell, they'll
even make up stuff like the Stele dossier to try
to hurt Trump. I mean, there's nothing they won't do
to try to bring him down, including trying to connect
the Epstein files now to Donald Trump, which there again
this goes back their obsession. They don't care about the victims.
(10:16):
They only care about hurting Donald Trump, orange man bat.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, and look, I assume somewhere in the vast files
there is something that is embarrassing to some Republican somewhere.
I assume that sure, because there was clearly some hesitancy
to release this information. They haven't done so. But everything
we know about it is the overwhelming weight of the
evidence is a bunch of corrupt Democrats who were on
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Jeffrey Epstein's plane on the Lalita Express, who went to
his island, and who presumably participated in sexually assaulting underage girls.
And I've said for a long time, release that all
make it public. If anyone has sexually assaulted an underage girl,
prosecute them. And so I think Donald Trump and the
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Trump White House said, all right, fine, if some Republican
is embarrassed by some glancing reference, and I have no
idea what it is, I haven't seen these files, so
be it. But the bulk of the evidence, from everything
we know, is going to be evidence that is a real,
real problem for I suspect a significant number of Democrats.
(11:22):
I'm glad the President did this. I'm hopeful the House
can vote, we can put this behind it, and then
we can have some real accountability to people who committed
criminal acts and and hurt underage girls.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
When all this comes out, and if it does go
the way that we believe it is, we're just gonna
it's all gonna be there. What is the obligation then,
and what can people expect will happen afterwards? From a
congressional oversight perspective.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't know. I think you will see Congress engage
in some oversight. You know, I've talked in this podcast
before how Pambondi, the Attorney General, told me there were
significant videos that they were in the process of reviewing
to make sure they're protecting the victims. Obviously that's important,
you want to protect the victims. There are also, as
I understand it, limitations in terms of what can be
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released publicly based on orders from federal judges. My understanding
again is those judges are all judges appointed by Democrat presidents,
and so DOJ feels some constraints because of those judicial
orders in terms of what they can release. I'd like
it all to be public, make it all public, have
there be accountability across the board, and I think the
President's tweet Sunday night is a big step in that direction.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I want to play with Donald Trump, I had to
say before he got on the plane to return back
to Washington, before this tweet was put out, and he
got in the face of reporter who asked him a question,
trying to again make this into some sort of ap
scene Trump connection.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Take a listen to what he said.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Fake news like you, you're a terrible reporter, and fake
news like you. They just keep bringing that up to
deflect from the tremendous success of the Trump administration. So
a guy like Massy, his full numbers is showing, he said,
six percent approval rating right now, and we call him
Ran Paul Junior because he never votes for the Republican Party.
(13:15):
So that using Jeffrey Epstein as a deflection from the
tremendous success that we're having as a party.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know, I do think there's politics here. President Trump's
figured that out, and he's like, they just bring this
crap up whenever they want to start hitting me on
something because they don't want to talk about something else.
And that's why I think you so irritated. And it's
also I think the reason why on the plane decided,
all right, forget it. I'm all in on this one.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Let's go well and listen. The substante point about his
tweet is exactly right that we have seen major historic
victories the past year. You look at illegal immigration. We
went from the worst invasion of this country in history
twelve million illegals by far the highest rate ever, to
illegal border crossings dropping more than ninety nine percent. When's
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the last time the corporate media covered that. They don't
cover that, the fact that this crisis that was endangering
Americans across this country, President Trump has solved that. You
look at the one big beautiful bill you and I
have talked about before. There are more conservative victories in
that one big beautiful bill than any legislation that has
ever passed into law, including more than four trillion dollars
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in tax cuts, including no taxes on tips, no taxes
on overtime, no taxes on Social Security, including the provision
I authored, the largest federal school choice provision in history,
that is going to help millions of kids across America
get access to an excellent education, including the Trump accounts
that is going to make every child in America an
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owner of the biggest companies in America. These are landmark victories,
and I think the President is frustrated that not enough
Republicans are talking about that, the media is not talking
about that. And I think this is his efforts to say, look,
let's focus on our real success as the president as
a result of his leadership, where seeing trillions of dollars
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of new investments in the US economy, opening new factories.
I'm talking to CEOs every week who are talking about
making massive new investments in America, creating jobs. Then I
think the President quite rightly says that's what we should
be talking about, how we're making a difference in the
lives of Americans, not the Democrats political game trying to
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blame this Democrat donor who was a pedophile, trying to
blame him on Republicans. I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
By the way you go back to what the Republicans
have done compared to what the Democrats have done. It's
a great segue into some data that we now have,
and it may explain why the Democrats, eight of them,
decide to go along with the Republicans after the longest
shut down in American history. It also, in theory if
there is sanity in the Democratic Party could tell you
(15:52):
a lot about what may or may not happen come
January with another government shut down, and that is the Democrats.
This isn't because I'm saying it. The polling is now
saying it. Democrats lost on the issue of the government shutdown.
Let's break those numbers down for everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, So, CBS News conducted a poll. Here's what CBS
News tweeted. Quote. By a wide margin, Americans say it
was Republicans and President Trump who succeeded in getting more
of what they wanted from negotiations to end the shutdown.
This survey recontacted americans first interviewed in our early November
poll while the shutdown was in effect. And here's what
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CBS concluded ending the shutdown. Who got more of what
they wanted? Trump and Republicans? What percent do you think
it has been?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Fifty five percent?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
There you go?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
How about Democrats? Do you think it's close?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I'm going to go probably not six percent.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Fifty say Trump and Republicans got more of what they wanted,
six percent say Democrats did, fifteen percent say both equally,
and twenty four percent say neither. So that's what CBS.
CBS is hardly this right wing source, CBS is concluding
the American people clearly see this as a loss for Democrats.
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And I want you to listen to Tim Kane. So
Tim Kaine is, as you know, a Democrat senator from Virginia.
Virginia has an awful lot of federal employees who went
forty three days without being paid, without getting a paycheck,
many of whom were frustrated, and Tim Kaine, by the way,
voted for reopening the government. And so I want you
(17:36):
to listen to Tim Kaine when he's being asked about
AOC attacking Senate Democrats for being willing to open the
government at all. Give a listen. The lesson that they're
learning is that Democrats are met and that next.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Time you just need to hurt working people and working
Americans more to get them to fold. And I don't
want them to learn that lesson.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Senator, what do you say to that argument that Democrats'
projected weakness here?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
So twofold, I have three hundred and twenty thousand federal
employees in Virginia, and together with their families, that's probably
seven hundred thousand dependents getting them all back to work
with two paychecks that they've missed, restored with protections against
future firings. You know, some folks like AOC may think
that's nothing. Virginians think it's an awful lot. And second,
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if the goal was to try to get healthcare front
and center, she was not at the table with the
Republicans in the Senate, and so maybe she thinks that
the Republicans would have caved. Would it have been another
week of SNAP recipients losing their SNAP benefits, another month
of air traffic or air travelers enduring chaos and even danger,
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another two months of federal employees losing their paychecks. I
was at the table with the Republican senators, and I
knew if we wanted to get to the healthcare discussion,
we had to open up government.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I mean, this is a little bit of a civil war.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think you're witnessing on on live TV if you're
watching Meet the Press, Tim Kay and Kan is exactly
like the most like conservative guy in the world of
the Democratic Party is pretty progressively liberal. AOC there, and look,
I think this is gonna be the fight they're gonna
have come January. Right, are the are they gonna be
held hostage again by the AOC's the party or will
(19:24):
the saying look at the poll numbers and say we
can't do that again.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It didn't work out for us.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah. And by the way, the Civil War is playing out.
You know, Tim Kaine voted for reopening the government. The
other Virginia Senator, Mark Warner, did not. Mark Warner voted
to keep the government shut down. And by the way,
you know which one of them is on the ballot
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Which one is that Mark Warner.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So every one of the federal government employees who didn't
get paid, Mark Warner voted even on day forty three, no,
we're not gonna pay you. And now, now look the
Virginia gubernatorial election. You had Democrat turnout because they're hardcore
partisans were mad, but the Virginia gubernatorial election was a
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not a terribly high turnout election. It's an interesting decision.
Usually when you have two senators from the same party
from the same state, they vote as a pair because
they don't like to have a distinction. Mark Warner is
not going to enjoy for the next year being asked,
why didn't you vote with Tim Kaine to reopen the government.
That is a problem for Mark Warner, and ultimately I assume, look,
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Mark Warner styles himself. He calls himself a moderate Democrat.
Now he votes with Chuck Schumer virtually every single time.
But Schumer himself has a fundamental problem. I mean, when
you said Democrat civil war, that's not hyperbole. And it
is the reason we had the Schumer shutdown, the largest
(20:57):
longest government shutdown in American history, is because Schumer as
a political crisis. His left wing wants to take him
out and fire him, end his job. By the way,
the second longest government shut down in history was the
first Schumer shut down under the first Trump term. So
Chuck Schumer has spots one and two in the record books.
But even though Chuck Schumer threw this temper tantrum, shut
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the government down, didn't pay federal government employees, inflicted enormous
pain on the American people, even though we did all
of that to show his crazies, he hates Trump as
much as they did. Even though on day forty three
of the shutdown, Chuck Schumer still voted no, don't reopen
the government. You know what, the radicals still want to
throw him out. Of office. It wasn't enough. Take a listen
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to Tim Kaine being asked about whether Schumer should.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Be fired the Democratic Party. More than a dozen House
members are calling for Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer to
step down, including my next guest, Congressman Roe Kanna, Senator.
Given this, given that so many Democrats are calling for
leadership to step aside, can he be an effective leader?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yes, Chuck has been an effective leader. Remember when Chuck
was Majority leader during the Biden administration, he produced a
string of legislative wins with a bare majority, nearly unparalleled
in recent history. Infrastructure, the American Rescue Plan, the Inflation
and Reduction Act, fixing the Electoral College, first gun safety
bill in twenty five years, an important veterans legislation. Being
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a minority leader is tough in the Senate. We have
some tools in minority, but not many. We don't control
what's on the floor. And you know, if you're dealing
with senators and Kristin you do. It's not exactly like
senators just get in line and follow the leader. So
I don't tell Rocanna or AOC or anybody else who
you should pick as your House leader, because I got
(22:51):
a full time job being a senator. I don't need
to freelance opinions about House leadership. They should focus on
their own leadership and let senators do what we need
to do to keep this country moving forward.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I mean, saty, this is just a straight up problem
for Democrats now right. They don't know who their leaders are,
they don't know who they're standing behind, they don't know
who they want to be in charge. And yet they
just were able to shut down the government and claim
they were successful.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And now that's even a backfire.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Look, this is Democrat on democrat political warfare. This is
a civil war.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It reminds me of the old quip that Ronald Reagan
used to say, which is the problem with Republicans is
the right hand doesn't know what the far right hand
is doing. This is an instance where for Democrats, the
left hand doesn't know what the far left hand is
doing other than they are punching each other. They are
fighting like crazy. And so it really is striking to
see Tim Kaine going on a Sunday show and getting
(23:45):
asked AOC says, you guys suck, and Rocanna says Chuck
Schumer should be fired. What say you and he's like,
they should butt out and let us be sentate Democrats
because we're screwing things up so badly that we're really
good at it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And if you think that, by the way, that the
only ones that are just can right now, you would
be wrong. Let's move to Michelle Obama. She has come
out and basically said, I will not grace you with
my presence as a president of the United States America.
You don't deserve me because there's too many massagists out
there and I'm not gonna give you my candidacy.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah. She was asked whether or not she would run
for president. Her response was, as we saw in this
past election, sadly, we ain't ready. That's why I'm like,
don't even look at me about running, because you all
are lying. You're not ready for a woman. You are not.
And she says, you know, we've got a lot of
growing up to do, and there's still, sadly a lot
(24:43):
of men who do not feel like they can be
led by a woman. And we saw it what utter
and complete nonsense by the way, Joe Biden was getting
his ass kicked. Now, I understand the Democrats can't tell
the difference between a man and a woman. So maybe Michelle.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Obama, a woman, is right that thinks that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Joe Biden is a woman. But Trump was winning when
Biden was the nominee. Trump was winning when Michelle Obama
was the nominee. Trump was winning a because the Biden
Harris Democrat agenda was a train wreck that hurt the
American people, and b because the American people wanted President
Trump back in the oval office. Here, I want you
to give a listen to exactly what Michelle Obama said,
(25:19):
Give a listen.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Do you think that that impacts the room that we've
made for a woman to be president? Well, as we
saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready. That's
why I'm like, don't even look at me about running
because you all are lying you're not ready for a woman.
You are not, So don't waste my time. You know,
(25:42):
we got a lot of growing up to do, and
theyre's still I'm sadly a lot of men who do
not feel like they can be led by a woman.
And we saw it.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
What was the question I just said, m So we
don't need to ask it again. Answer.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I mean, you listen to that, and the room goes
wild with women. It was clearly a female audience that
she's talking with there.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It was also a feminine man. Don't don't, don't forget.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Oh, that's true. We can't assume, I mean, this.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Is this is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yes, we can't assume from the high pitchedness of the
screams in the room that it was actually when it
could women, it could be people that identify as a woman.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's true. Valid point. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
When you have a male who's taking estrogen and like
wearing a tight strap to like tuck in, they have
pretty high squeels.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well you know they jope during the holidays and shavit
target get those tucking swimsuits for them, right, And half
of them used to work at the White House anyway,
so there's always that as well. When I heard that,
When I heard that, I laughed because I thought it
was so funny. One, I don't think there's a bunch
of people that are wanting her to run run right
now for for president. Her best shout at it would
(26:56):
have been a coronation like we had with with with
Kamala Harris that obviously didn't happen. But she's like you basically,
don't deserve me. That is the weirdest Jedi mind trick
political thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, look, it's just arrogance, and you're right, had she
wanted to do it, they would have handed it to
her instead of Kamala Harris and you and I talked
about this a lot on this podcast. By the way,
this podcast predicted more than a year before the Democrat
Party pulled the rug out from under Joe Biden. We
predicted on Verdict. Regular listens to Verdict. No, we regularly
(27:29):
make predictions. We make predictions that frankly are risky, that
are out there, and the overwhelming majority of the predictions
we make on this podcast have come true. When you
and I said a year before Joe Biden was yanked
unceremoniously off the ticket, that Biden would be pulled off
the ticket, you and I, and by that I mainly
(27:51):
mean me. I was mocked mercilessly.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Hold on, I agreed with you at the time. Give
me a little no.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, you did agree with me, but they didn't make
fun of you. The press went after me and says
Cruise is a moon bat numbskull. I think they kind
of bake into the cake that you're a moon bat numbskull.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So I do host this show with you. So there's that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, it's guilt by association. Sorry about that, but like
literally the corporate media went crazy. They had episodes mocking me.
What a crazy thing for Cruz to say, Biden's not
going to be the nominee. Obviously, anyone with any sense
at all knows he's going to be the nominee. Well,
we were right, and if Michelle Obama had wanted it,
(28:36):
she would have been the nominee last time. We predicted
that as well. She didn't want it, but the dripping
arrogance of her, you know, you listen to her comments.
The American people have a lot of growing up to do. Yeah,
like the absolute condescension. You people are too immature to
elect my magnificence. Why not because my ideas are terrible,
(28:58):
Not because the Democrat ideas are horrible and have resulted
in open borders, have resulted in people being murdered and
women being raped and children being assaulted. Not because we
had rampant inflation, not because Joe Biden. The Democrats caused
war all over the earth, turned peace and prosperity into
a war in Ukraine and October seventh and a war
in Gaza. You know, not because every single thing we
(29:22):
touched turned to absolute garbage. No, no, no, no, That's not
the reason Kamala Harris lost resoundingly. The reason, according to
the leftist ideology, is you all are bigots and your
racist and your sexist. And that's the only possible reason.
And I got to say that contemptuous condescension is one
(29:43):
of the worst characteristics of the Democrat Party today. But
it also does indicate this is not a party that
is reassessing. You know, normally, we lose an election, and
you lose an election badly. At least some people with
sense in the part to go, huh, wonder why the
voters rejected what we said. Maybe we should change, you know,
(30:04):
you think back to in nineteen eighty Reagan was elected.
In eighty four, Reagan was re elected one forty nine
out of fifty states, came within a few thousand votes
of winning every single state in the Union. Reagan won California,
New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, every state Minnesota. Nineteen eighty eight,
George Herbert walker Bush was elected and after losing three
(30:27):
consecutive presidential races. Democrats said, huh, maybe nominating Jimmy Carter
and Walter Mondale and Michael Dukaucus was a bad idea.
Maybe crazy left wing loons do not command a majority
in American What did they do? They pivoted, They moved
dramatically towards the center, and they nominated what was then
a moderate to conservative Democrat, the governor of Arkansas named
(30:50):
Bill Clinton. And Bill Clinton won two consecutive elections because
they shifted. You know what, I don't see any Democrats
doing that right now. I don't see them looking in
saying why did we get clobbered? Why did did Trump
win all seven of the swing states? I don't see
Democrats saying that at all. And Michelle Obama saying, you
(31:10):
people are a bunch of biggots in sexists and you
just need to grow up. You know what I'm saying,
Whoever the Democrat nominee is in twenty eight, please make
Michelle Obama your spokesperson, because we really need her lecturing
the American people how much the voter suck. Because you
know that historically has proved such an effective way to campaign.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
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