Episode 4: Adrienne Bailon

It’s a Cheetah Girls reunion as Raven & Miranda welcome Adrienne Bailon to The Best Podcast Ever! What do they remember from that iconic movie set and what were Miranda’s thoughts upon her first viewing ever? And Adrienne details her surrogate journey (and insecurities), and a trivia game reveals a possible reboot you never saw coming. Where will the wheel land and what will we learn? You just never know…

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yo, what your name is?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
My name? What sign are you? What's your zip code?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Nine one two o two?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hell yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Erewhon, let's do babes. That's such a bop.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Just every time. The head is just banging.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Back in the day, if you would have said that sentence,
I'd be like, oh, what do you mean? But anybody
who's oldest me is going to catch that reference?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Got it?

Speaker 1 (00:40):
You got it? No, the head is banging. You never
heard of that sentence?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, like the head is banging.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
That's exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Welcome to the best podcast ever with Wreathing and Miranda.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is me Miranda, even though I might sound a
little bit different, that's because I'm a little sickly and
Dickley first time in three and a half years.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Given a lot of sex references this morning, babes, I
don't know how I feel about it.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, that's what happens when you're congested.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Whoa whoa congestion sex. I don't know, I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
It's just the babes.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
How'd you get sick?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Glad?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
That's your mic I made off to share.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm so glad you asked? How did I get sick,
I think from you.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I think it's from Jensen.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nah, I think it's from you. I think that you
brought the bug off the plane and.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I got off a plane four weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh no, no, no, okay, actually, but you were sick before.
I think that it was hibernating in my shoulder area.
This is what I've been told. This is that's where
viruses like to hang out, which is why you have
to guasha into the scapula.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Which is true. Did you guys know that if you're sick,
gasha in your scapula and then the bug like release
into your sinus.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Okay, get sick, So like your spine is there, yeah,
and that's your neck and you know, and then you
touch the spine and then youh out into your shoulder
blade area.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
And those who don't know what a guasha is, it's
a beautiful piece of stone. Could be amethyst, it could
be plastic, but it is an ancient jade. It's an
ancient tool that you use to move the fasha blood flow,
and you rake it across your skin enough to create
tension and it releases all kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
And here's the thing about me. When I'm sick. I
gravitate towards comfort content like cont Yes, I'm like my
comfort movies. And the other day I decided that I
was going to rip the condom off, burst the cherry,
whatever the fuck you want to say about it. I know,

(02:49):
congestion and sacks. Here we go. And I was like,
you know what, it's time. I want to watch the
Cheetah Girls. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
She watched The Cheetah Girls for the first time her
thirty plus years of life on this planet. And I
was in my art room just getting my shit together.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
And I was like, hey, heads up, I'm gonna be
putting something on right now that might give you PTSD,
that might make you wanna, I don't know, strut.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
And then the next thing I hear is we can
ride a hurricane. If we wanna together, we can. I
was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
And that's literally she was like. I was like, I'm
gonna watch the Cheatah Girls now, and she was like,
excuse me what? And I was like, it's true. But
you know what, here's the thing. Disney Disney movies.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Disney Channel, Original Disney.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Okay, d coms, Yes, are straight up comfort movies.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
They're bops. Yeah, movies.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
They're totally bops. So I was like, what, no, better time,
let's do.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Did you ever watch any other Disney Channel original movie?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I knew that was the question coming, and I started
to panic because my brain is foggy, and the answer
is fuck yeah, Okay, can I name one other than
Halloween Town?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Halloween Town and Cheetah Girls, that's what you watched?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
No, I never watched Cheetah Girls until two days ago. Oh,
so did you.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Feel about it? How did you feel watching me as
a fifteen year old girl?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, first of all, you were really cute and party.
Second of all, you talked to me. Then, yeah, I
would have like totally wanted to be your friend. I
don't think I would have wanted anything more. I wouldn't
have don't. I wasn't in that phase of my life
at that point.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I would have my first boyfriends during that time.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I know. But the thing that was wild to me
were the names. Oh the names Drinka Champagne.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Hell yeah, drink a Champagne man, Drinka, Drinka.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
It was pretty cool. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
What was my name?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Galeria, Garylbaldi, this woman, this more.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't know when it was probably last night she
was in, She's like, I gotta tell you something, and
she gives me like all this you know info, and
then she's like, okay, bye your Gatherria Garibaldi and then
she leaves the room like she did something. Yeah, yeah,
that's one of my names being.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, first of all, here's the deal. You're Raven, so
it's like, you know what I mean. So your name
is Raven, but on your other shows your name is Raven.
And then on the other shows your name is Rudy,
and I don't even know. I mean, I can do
what Rudy does. Your name is Olivia.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yes, I'm married to the woman who does not know
anything about my career, which is why I love her
so much.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Is your name on Copper Cooper? I'm sorry, I'm a
little What's your name on Hanging Cooper?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
If you have brain fuck and can't get your words together,
don't do a podcast.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
What is your name on Hangin' with mister Cooper?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Nicole Lee? Nicole Lee? Yes, Nicole, I've had that's weird.
I know it is right, I've had Raven, Olivia, Nicole,
Paprika Cherise.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
What the hell were you?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Paprika in you don't know Paprika, No girl, catch up.
Now we got to get her to watch Doctor Doolittle.
Paprika though, Yeah, I wanted to be a rapper in
the first season. I mean I wanted to be a
rapper in the first movie, and I was like, my
name is Paprika. It was a mess and then I
forgot I forgot my name Nebula. I was Nebula, and

(06:30):
oh that's Zeno, that's Xena.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh you saw that one, wasn't that the second one
that you were in?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Is that baby? I was in the first one. I
love you so much.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I've definitely I don't Okay, never mind.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
We're not watching that though.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Anyway. What do you think about Capri sons? I love
a caprisa, you know what, I don't want one at all.
I really don't. I used to drink them, but they've
been on my mind. I really why.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
They're just sugar water with flavoring. But I did think
that the package was really cool because at the end
of it you could like squish it and lay it flat.
And then of course in my head, I'm like, I
could build a Capri mountain, but I never did.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I liked the straw, Yeah, it felt fun, and maybe
I've been thinking about them because they feel like they
go with the time of the movies I've been watching.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Incorrect Again, I'm not that old. Caprice Sons were early
nineties ninety.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, but it's around the time that I'd be watching
my d coms. I was drinking a Caprice Son.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, but I wasn't in those d coms. My d
coms started in nineteen.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I'm talking about your d cooms specifically, I'm talking about
my dcoms, which are Halloween Town, She's drying so hard? Wait? Wait,
you know what I watched were because I watched Billboard Dad. No,

(08:01):
it was Ashley and Mary Kate or to Grandmother's House
We Go.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I didn't watch any Mary Kate n Ashley movies because
they were in the same age bracket as me, and
I didn't understand why they got a whole bunch of
DVDs and I didn't do you.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Want to know thing? Fun? No, So a neighbor of
mine he worked on one of the Ashley Mary Kate
movies and needed to do a dr oh okay, and
Mary Kate couldn't make it, so I went stop it.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You have wait? Is this in your IMDb credit.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Puck off right next to the Waltons. Yeah, and I
are you serious? I sort of got you can't do
the face, and I went into I can do the
alson face. So I went into the booth. I must
have been about like seven years old, and yeah, and
I did Mary Kate's lines, maybe Ashley's maybe both did.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Do you remember them?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
The lines?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah? I know you got brain frog. I know you
have brain fag.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Today they were it was random. It was like, hey,
move off, like kick it to me, it's my turn,
silly things. And then I had to.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Scream, did you get paid?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe a little bit. I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
So you have a sagcard.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I am in sag after I am a very famous actress.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
You don't know that about me?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Surprise, surprise, surprise. No, that's a fun little fact. There
you go.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, they were definitely the early nineties Caprice.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Sun Gushers, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
But I am happy that you are sick, and you
may ask why, because you got to watch one of
the movies that really made a difference in my life,
and it was The Cheetah Girls. And that brings us
to today's guest.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Does it really?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Oh my goodness, she's here. She's in the building. Everyone
welcome Adrian.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
The rhythm babies.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
What were you singing?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Take you by lam By loan. That's my entrance for Adrian.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Adrian what I've helped somebody to pronounce that last name?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm here for it, I mean for sure, for sure, Adrian.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Hey, what's up? I have something to tell you before
you even get to speak. So she's gobsbacked her mouth.
She's just so every time, every time. So the other day,
my wife is, you know, telling me how sick's sick?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
She is?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
My wife is I have a little bit of a cold, Adrian,
I'm not well? And she was saying that while she's sick,
she likes to do comfortable things, you know, different kinds
of foods and things like that, which I'm going to
ask you what you like to do when you're sick.
But one of the things that she decided to do
was watch the Cheetah Girls for the first time in
her life, the first one. And I was like, wait

(10:52):
a second, did you watch that for me or because
Adrian's coming on? And she could not give me a
real answer, So could you do me a neighbor and
ask her actually watched the Cheater Girls movie.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Veranda, why you be doing that? That's like our un
sexiest moments in life.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, first of all, I did give you a real answer,
and I'm gonna give you the same answer, Adrian. I
had never seen the movie, and I'd heard so much
about The Cheater Girls, and it keeps showing up recently,
like people are talking about it, Raven's getting phone calls
to make appearances about it, like it's it's just like

(11:26):
in our ether. We go to a dance, our friend's
dance studio, and she's like, Oh, I have this whole
choreographed thing to strut. I had to quickly learn. I
had to just understand what the what the fuss was about?
And I get it now, I get it.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So she actually is now a fan, Adrian, not just
because you're cool peoples, but because of like the other reason.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
My favorite part ever, favorite part ever is this.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's Toto.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
He's a bijon freeze, he's on a salad dressing, he's
a dog, and he's in a hole.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's like, it's the best.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Movie, literally, the first movie. The most climactic part I
don't know if that's how you correctly use that word,
but is.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
The dog going in the hole and the.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Entire school coming outside to say Toto? Like that is
what this film is about.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
A lot of people were like, oh, yeah, The Cheetah
Girls is about a girl group.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
They're you know, about to They're friends that want to
start a girl group and they're you know, they're going
to get together and they're going to audition for their school. No,
it's not about that, and it's about total in the
whole fun back to you guys.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, Raven, do you know that?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
On my honeymoon, that's what I had Israel watch all three?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Okay, so he hadn't seen them either, but he does
have an older daughter who was upset and he's like,
we used to have Cheeta Girl parties. But I wasn't
sitting and watching movie. And I was like, well, now
you've married me, there's no turning back. Like this is
you need to watch these films. And we were in
Saint Lucia and they actually had no like Wi Fi

(13:07):
and it was the only thing that I had downloaded
on my I like those big iPads. It was downloaded.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Why. I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Maybe I was trying to help our sales.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, like oylties come on always.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
And so I had downloaded and like fully had them
on and we sat and watched old movies and it
was he honestly couldn't believe it. It was just like this
is like like this is what you're known for.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And I was like, yep, so crazy, Adrian. I have
to say when we were watching it, I didn't want
to watch it at first, and then I walked in
and I saw it. I was like, Oh, the first
one's not too bad. Then I saw the second one.
I was like, God, I'm ridiculous in this one. I
really didn't like.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
You weren't watching the third one?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
No, we started watching it that I'm not in.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh you're not in the third? Understood you?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Like the second one, I couldn't get through it because
I know what I was going through mentally, and I
got to get it myself. We have to, we have
to finish it.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
But yeah, I was watching it on.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I don't remember filming any of it. Do you remember
filming any of them?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
I remember perfectly the first one, like really really really well.
I even remember the fact that that scene where I
go to find out that Durinda is a hot child
god and I'm like, you're a.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Cheata girl because of who you are.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Fun fact we filmed in Toronto in the middle of
winter October November. It's time to end of October into November.
It was freezing and they wanted it to seem like
it was the like September, like back to school vibe.
And every time I went to go do the scene,
hot air would come out of my mouth and you know.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
You can see it in the freezing cold.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
So I had to suck on ice before filming so
that the hot air wouldn't come out of my mouth.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Raymond, did you even know that?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I didn't know that. Only thing that I know about
you had.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Me but like like tons and then I'd spit it.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Out and be like, you're a cheater girl. And I
mean I really wanted to cry. I was freezing my
asp off hilariously.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I was like, that scene is the drama, honey, just
the the intensity of it all. And then you give
Derinda the cheetah girl outfit that you would just order,
the top that you would just purchase. You're like, it's okay. Girl,
you can wear this. I got.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I was like, wow, girl, I was walling on a
budget on my mother's credit card, all.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Good, all day long. That was amazing. Your mom was
a mess though.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Thank you for your own honey still is. Thank you
for walking down that nostalgic road. But I want to
get into the Adrian that you are now. Adrian Bylon
is one of the most working females that I know.
Jewelry line, married, baby, television shows, host, mask singer, singer, singer,

(15:45):
business woman like this woman has not stopped since the
Cheetah Girl print was put down. And I am so
proud of you for everything that you've done. I just
have a question. At Ravens Home, Oh yeah, Ravens Home
and older movies, what the hell do you take a break?

(16:06):
Do you take a vacation?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I try, Man, it's so weird.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
I think there's a different culture, especially us that we
grew up in a different era. I think there's something
in us that's just like probably an unhealthy work ethic.
But it's definitely like no one's going to do anything
for you. So I am the queen of agenting my agents,
managing my managers, assisting my assistants because I feel like
there's this need to. I mean, I also remember not

(16:36):
working at some point in time and.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Being like that, ain't it so?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
But where'd you grow up?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I grew Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
I grew up in New York City in the Lower
East Side of the projects. And I was like, she
likes it, you know, in a different place now. I'm
okay in Westchester where I'm at now.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
But I feel like.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
There's something about doing what you love and doing it
enough that then you get to really do what you love.
Like I love that I worked my asshole for such
a long time, and then now I kind of get
to choose what I want to do and I feel
like I get more excited about those things. And then
a bit she just doesn't say no, so she's like, yeah,

(17:18):
I want to do more.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I want to do more.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I want to do more, and even doing stuff like
Raven's Home, Like I was doing the reel at the time,
and I literally would shoot the real and come straight
to rehearsals with you, and I loved it. I literally
was like this, like, when will I ever I think
that's the thing that stays in the back of my head,
When will I ever get this opportunity again, you know
what I mean, Like I always have this probably I

(17:41):
don't know if it's a positive thing or if it's
a negative thing, but like I always try to keep
an attitude of gratitude where it's like, don't complain about
having to get here, girl, there are people that would
love to have this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I love what you said about attitude of gratitude. I
think a lot of people that start in the end
industry nowadays, you know, they just have this air about
them that they're.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
So take it for granted.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
It's like TikTok makes it seem like people get famous
in three point five seconds, and other people work years
and years at their craft to just get an opportunity,
just to get, you know, one little foot in the door.
And I feel like we come from an era where
it's like you may never get this chance again. Like
I'm not going to be like, oh, Raven's homie doesn't
really work with my schedule or I'm tired. I'm like no, Like, girl,

(18:29):
like bust your ass.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Real quick.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
So that you can, you know, make this moment happen.
And I was so grateful for that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So when did you start working? How old were you
crazy enough?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
I got into the industry in a girl group was
my first opportunity. I didn't have a headshot, I didn't
have anything. I actually was out of school that specialized
in the medical industry and I was interning at Bethy'.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Israel in New York City and a guy.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Walked in who had like a broken leg, walked in
and was like, oh ma, you sing.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
And I was like, what you want to hear?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Like her Oprah say opportunity, Like there's no such thing
as luck, it is preparation meeting opportunity, and a girl
was prepared, okay.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I was like, you want to hear a song in Spanish?
In English? I think you will? Like hey, like let
me know. And so he's like.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I know this manager, she's putting together a girl group,
and I know that some of you girls from the
high school you interned here, Like, can you get me
a group of girls to come in an audition? And
that's exactly what I did. And it was actually for
the group's re lw and I would fourteen about to
turn fifteen.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
That is an epic story and kind of reminds me
of something that you would see in the movies like
jack Hole Johnson jackal Mom, what perfect Mom? We just
called me?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Mom?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
You just called him jack hole. That's because he was
a jack hole. But that's like that type of energy.
It's like, yeah, a random.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Crazy opportunity.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
And even that, like I think about had I not
taken that opportunity, I don't know what my life would
have been. I really do believe in God and destiny,
So I really believe that, like God has a plan
and a purpose for everyone's life, Like whatever God, you
believe in universe whatever, I do believe that to some extent,
Like whether it was that opportunity or not, I feel

(20:16):
like those moments are placed in front of us to
see like are you going to go for it?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Are you going to speak the opportunity or not? And
I was like, let's go.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I love that. It's so you have spitfire energy. That's
just like let's do it. Let's go. I mean, that's amazing.
And you've kept that obviously and it's been very successful
for you, which is awesome. Did you learn anything major
from three to LW and that experience.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Oh my god, absolutely, I think that's where I got
like I think naturally instilled in me from watching my
mom be a really really hard work of Both of
my parents are super hard workers, so I think that's
where my work ethic came from. And also I was
super driven, Like I remember I would definitely the weakest
dancer in both and the Girls.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
And I remember not allowing that.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
To like completely destroy my confidence, and instead I was like,
I just got to work harder than everyone. I was like,
I just need to put in the extra hours to
be at least good enough to stand next to them
if I have to take it. And I, if I'm
being real, Raven knows this, I would just dance harder,
like I could be doing the wrong move, but I'm

(21:28):
gonna dance so hard that I don't believe that they're
doing the wrong move and I'm doing it right because
I just.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Where she would be.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
But she would be in a rehearsal and I'll do
it again. I'll do it again. I'll do it again.
I'm like, girl, you got it. No, no, no, no, no,
I need to do it again. Like that's her own
personal blockage because she actually does very well for what
she does. But I think that's because she does work hard.
But I remember be like, girl, I'm gonna take a break.
We got to do this again.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
You fine?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Fine? That is so wild.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
I would want to do it over and over and
over and over again until.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I felt like, Okay, I got this good.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
And so there was just this natural like driving me
that I have to be honest but probably isn't there
now I'll be like, it's fine, it doesna be.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Just listen, we don't be okay.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
But at the time, I was so I like to say,
I was hungry, not thirsty, you know, like there's a
different keep that hunger alive.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I was very hungry.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
I wanted to be great at what I was doing,
and I was honestly just freaking grateful for a shot,
like the opportunity. I was so grateful for the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's so. I was gonna say, like, where
do you think that comes from? That drive? And it's
clearly just like a personality.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's her mama and her dad, Like I met I
met her mom and the people that she's surrounded by,
and they don't take no for an answer. They know
they have to work hard to succeed. But also from
the culture, you know, when you have a culture that's
been oppressed, no matter what color it's based off of.
You have the drive to succeed. You didn't quote unquote

(23:01):
make the American dream. And you know if you sit
on your ass and not work hard enough, you'll get
passed up by someone with extremely less talent than you
because they have the right skin.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
But isn't that also an inner confidence? Like I in
listening to you talk, Adrian, I'm like, oh, damn, you
are confident, like you know.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I wasn't confident.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
That's why I was like, I got to put in
the extra work because I didn't I didn't believe that
it was just based off of raw talent. Like I
actually thought, like, I have to put in the extra
work to get these opportunities. I have to put in
the extra work because maybe I'm not as good as
everyone else. I have to put in the extra work
because it's not going to come to me as easily
as everyone else. There were other people in the group

(23:42):
that literally they could go one in two and three
and four and they got it, and that just wasn't
the case for me. I also have a mom, Like
Ragen said that, my mom's job started at nine. She
worked in nine to five at Poor now in New
York City in administration, and my mom would get to
work every single day at about seven am, and all
of us would see my mom get on the train

(24:03):
in the city at like five somethings. She was coming
from My sister was living in Queen's at the time,
and she was living with them to help raise my nieces.
And we'd be like, Mommy, why are you up? So
why are you up at five o'clon? You don't have
to be at work until nine. And she was like, no,
I get in early at seven am. I knock out
all the actual work that I have to do by
the time everyone gets there to work, so that I

(24:24):
actually can be of service to other people.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
And I was just like what.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
And while we all made fun of her, I think
there's absolutely a piece of that that we all took
from her, my sister and myself, you know, like that
of the drive.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That is the drive seat. I was thinking confidence because
I was like, Okay, you believed, but it's the wrong word,
I guess, but I was like, you believed enough in
yourself and your worthiness in a way to be there
to put in the work. And I think that's because
a lot of people, for example, like my personality, I
lean more towards the okay, I'm too overwhelmed by this.

(24:59):
I I'm too far behind. They get it so easily,
like it would discourage me. And I think that I
just admire the drive that people have where it's like, no,
I'm going to keep getting better, I'm going to keep
fighting for what I want.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
And but let's clearly that that's not a joke around.
Because Miranda makes fun of me, I'm the same way
as your mom, kind of like if my call time's
nine o'clock, I'm gonna get there at seven. Always been
their way. She's like, why do you have to go
just show up? I'm like, no, I have to be
there before anybody else for many reasons. But I think
that is something instilled in people who know how hard

(25:35):
it is to make it in this world, and that
that teachings from our parents and their grandparents instilled in us.
But then we also have a worthiness, a knowing, a calling,
a belief system, and the opportunity in preparation that got
us to where we are right now. And I think
that that also kind of, you know, kind of makes

(25:58):
me want to lead you in to a little bit
of your personal life. How's your husband, how's the baby?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Believing the baby is downstairs with my mom right now.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
He's amazing. He's downstairs. He's trying to walk so bad.
He has freaking five teeth, two on the top, two
little bottoms, he got one poking out on this side.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
And he's so much fun. I like so much fun.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Adrian sent me the best meme of her kid. I
can't use it yet because I have to get permission,
but that fucking picture, girl, I was like, this would
blow up. I got to. I got to send it
to it. It was hilarious. I am so happy that
you're a mother. I am so happy.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Can I answer me some questions? I'm so happy for
you too, Adrian. But I'm just interested if you're down
to talk about your journey into motherhood androgacy, because obviously,
for Raven and I, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Be pregnant even though I try, right exactly, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
That's not an adoption, even though I try on a
daily basis, right.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
So that, but we talk about it often, and I
just would love to hear about your experience with asaragate.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
I feel like I watched my sister have two babies naturally,
and obviously that's the only thing I could go off of,
the closest experience that I could go off of, Like
I literally was in the room when she gave birth,
Like that's the closest person to me that I'd ever seen.
Because I want to say, I don't have anything else
to base it off of, which I actually kind of
appreciate to get what I'm saying, Like, Miranda, you've never

(27:31):
carried a child before or given birth.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
So there isn't anything compared to where I've heard other
people have a harder time if they carry a child
and birthd it and then done sergucy after. There is
a difference there. I'm sure that I mean not, I'm
sure there is a difference.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Then. The reality is.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
I I, as much as I love my journey, I'm
not unrealistic of the fact that, Man, I would have
loved to have felt my son move inside of me.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I would have loved to.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Had that that experience. That would have been amazing, But
that wasn't my journey. And so I'm grateful for other
things like my vagina.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Being intact and just.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
But yeah, my sister was the main person, like, we're
gonna find the silver lining in this, Like, I am
not going to allow you to turn what is still
going to be such a beautiful journey into a all
the things I missed out on, or feeling resentment of
the fact that I was robbed of what I always
imagined my journey would be. Like this, this is keeping

(28:33):
it real. I felt robbed of maternity photos. I know
that sounds really stupid and insignificant, but like in my mind,
I was like, Oh, the beauty of what a woman's
body can do and what that was going to look
like black and white photos. It was going to give
her risks, you know. Yeah, so I thought I didn't
get that. I worried about the lack of bonding with

(28:53):
my child and them knowing that I was their mom
and you know that they we wouldn't have that connection,
and I absolutely I'll get into that in just a
little bit. But like I again, I didn't have anything
to base it off of.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
So this is the.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Strongest bond I could ever imagine because this is what
I got. And I loved him from the I loved
him oddly because he wasn't in my body and because
I wanted him so desperately. I loved him from before
he was even implanted. Wow, cause that makes it. I
loved him and the idea of him and who he's
gonna be and dreaming up what that was. You know,

(29:30):
what he's gonna look like, What is he gonna act like?
Is he gonna have a what kind of personality? It's
gonna be fussy? Is he gonna be chill?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Like I?

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Because it wasn't happening in my body, I think I
over obsessed, Like I had conversations about it. I journaled
about it, I prayed about it. So I loved the
bond that I created even though he wasn't inside of me.
And then the other thing I felt was like and
this is I was like, man, I've always heard about

(29:58):
how bomb pregnant sec like, I've heard that like the
orgasm feel, and I'm like, I was trying.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I was trying to back it up.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
On my husband and give him the bomb pregnancy said,
you didn't get to see my body, my my boob
get extra big, you know, breastfeeding like I wanted. I
wanted that. I wanted to see him. I wanted to
see him see me in that position in that role
position sounds extra sexual. I'm you know, like I I

(30:30):
and so I didn't get that, But my sister was like,
we're going to focus on the positive. We're going to
focus on the fact that when my son was born,
I'm the one that literally pulled him out of someone
else's vagina, which sounds crazy, Brandon. In that moment, I wasn't.
I actually thought that I was going to feel like,

(30:50):
this is awkward. You don't feel any of that. You're
so in the moment, You're so hyped, you're so excited.
I was like, oh, like, I'm just in his faith,
like pulling him out. He goes directly on me on
the first skin to skin that he experiences, like he
never touched anyone else.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
It was just me.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
So he goes right on me. I'm like, oh my god,
like this is this is my baby?

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Like this is so wild.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
And if I have to say one thing, it is
that in that moment, all that other stuff that I
ever considered or thought about or felt like I missed
out on that was like bye.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
But that Adrian.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
The only other thing I'll say that my sister said
was the fact that I was like a fully functioning
person when my son was born, and most women that
at first are not. My sister was like, girl, I
can't even tell you what that moment was like.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
She's like, I was not there.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
She's like, I she ended up having an emergency C section.
She's like, I couldn't even like the baby was there,
and she was kind of like like she didn't feel
up to it to care for her child for at
least the first three days almost a week, versus like
I was up and popping, I had all this adrenaline,
I was excited. I was like very present and able

(32:08):
to be there. I wasn't aching, I wasn't in pain.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
So there's totally totally And here's the thing. I think
you know that I'm a doula, so I have definitely
been in those environments. And I love the fact, first
of all, that even though you gave a little you know,
preface of this might sound superficial or whatever, that you
are vocalizing those things because they're super valid and that

(32:32):
grief is real. And it's totally fine to say, like
I didn't get pregnancy photos. I really wanted it, but
I am also really grateful that I have this beautiful baby.
Boy who I love so much. You know, it's like
I think both are really you can have both. Yeah,
you can't have both, and yeah in grief and now.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I'm just gonna choose to focus on the positive side.
I'm gonna focus on Listen, like, I don't have postpartum depression.
I'm not exhausted. I'm not I didn't just push my
vagina is in fact, I mean so I was trying
to have that sort of mindset. Yeah, because listen, the
reality is, this is where we are, This is a situation.
I didn't choose this, This was literally my last option.

(33:12):
And the fact that I even get to how many
people will never get that opportunity to reality is that
financially that's not realistic for a whole lot of people.
And that kind of was what ended up inspiring me
to do an entire series on my YouTube channel called
Faith and Familia, kind of giving all the information of
my entire journey and what we went through, and then

(33:34):
also offering we now started a foundation called the Faith
and Familia Foundation, which hopefully will help some families financially
be able to create their families.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's so important and I do too. I love that
you're doing that, Adrian, and it's you know, there's no
one way to have your family. And even in your
describing when your baby was born and he comes out,
that energy in the room. I mean I've felt it
before as a person who's not even pregnant, not even
that involved. The oxytocin is a real thing, Like your

(34:09):
body goes through chemical shifts and hormonal shifts just from
being in the room. So that bond is real. It's
it's so great, and I'm excited for more people to
have more of these conversations and learn more about it.
And you know, even for me, even knowing as much
as I do as a doula, I still like you
have those had those thoughts of like, God, would I

(34:30):
be able to bond? And what would it be like
with the saragan And would my partner somehow feel more
drawn to the pregnant saragate than me, like.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
To see her body pregnant? Yeah, I'll be okay with that, right.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I mean, there's there's just a lot of a lot
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
But let's spin the wheel, shall.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Wait, Adrian? The word is fame.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Fame.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I want to live forever. I want to alert Okay,
So fame.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Let me find out Miranda can sing Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, I'm a cheat up girl. Yeah she's white and shrimpy.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
That is so rude.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Whatever, I have a real question for you, Adrian. When
was the moment that you realized you were famous? Do
you remember it?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
You're okay, it's been a long time, but I.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Feel you've just been famous.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Right, No, it's it sounds like really weird.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Ah, this is so hard because I feel like I
don't view myself that way still, Yeah, but I feel
it only when, okay, when people cry, Like if somebody
comes up to you and they like are like emotional
about like what you meant to them? Like that to me,
hits me in such where where I'm like, oh my gosh,
because I think I do feel that way about other people,

(36:03):
you know what I.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Mean, Like I feel like way about job. I'll be
like I love you, ship me to.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
But like for someone to feel that way about me,
I would say that probably happened. Uh probably honestly. Honestly
the first chea Girl movie. I feel like hearing moms
and their daughters be like you represent it for us,
like that's so dope. My daughter loves the Cheeta girls
like that to me was is and probably will always

(36:29):
be my favorite, my favorite compliment, like you impacted my
child's life where I loved watching this with my daughter.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
We bonded over it.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
You know, you know, just you totally.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
You're my childhood.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
And I know people have to say that you are
my childhood, like that.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Is do you? I just have to say, you give
me jalo vibes all the way. Yeah, just.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Don't gass me in that way because I will believe it.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I have an event that I have to go to
right after this.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
And so touch on my makeup and then and I'm like, like,
don't tell me that I will walk into that place
feeling extra fly.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
You should you give me Jenny from the Black Okay,
and I loved it. And if you saw her the
other night, she looked amazing at this premation. Anyway, I digress.
Go ahead, babes.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
What was kind of her car? She says she wouldn't
have sex with her, but she's in love with her.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I wouldn't have I just love. I just love.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
I know exactly what you're talking about. She was with
Ben Affleck at that one. It's like, what is it
called the flash. Was it cream and black? The top
was black in the bottom of cream.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, it was it was literally yesterday and it's a
black dress for the flash permit?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
No? I don't think so. She looked stunning. It's on
her Instagram. Go, we'll have to we'll fact check it.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
I'm gonna go look, it's like right now literally digressing
into j low Rave and go.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
No.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
But I mean, you guys are talking about somebody. Do
you feel like when you're famous, people automatically think they
know you, because that's what I feel I feel like
when you're famous, they think that anything that happens that's
exactly who you are. You do not have a life after,
And like, what would you say, is the one thing
outside of your fame that actually makes you? Adrian? I

(38:17):
don't know your middle name. I would have called you
by your middle.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Name, but like Adrian, Eliza Eliza?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
What makes Eliza Eliza outside of fame? Because there's an
Adrian Bila and then there's an Eliza. Oh gosh, sorry,
there is Adrian.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
You are correct. It is the zip and it's Gucci
and it's sick as hell. She looks stunning anyway, Okay,
go on.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I saw it.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
I sent it to like three people this morning and
was like, God, stunning. Okay, Yeah, this is the thing
about Eliza, and I think a lot of people assume
that if you are famous, you are obsessed with being famous, yes,
and that you love being famous and that fame is
all that matters to you. And I think that, to me,

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is one of the biggest misconceptions. And I want to
say this with all the gratitude that I talked about
in the beginning of this podcast, which is I'm so
grateful for the opportunities.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
But I tell you, if I'm made the.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Right amount of money, baby, the way y'all would never
see me again, the way you would I would be
when I tell you, because people think, oh, they want
to be famous so bad. They want people to know
don't want to have money, Yes, because I want to
be able to do and have amazing experiences for myself
and my family. And I want to live that way

(39:37):
and be able to do what I want to do
and not things that I have to do. Yes, I
don't care about being famous, and I actually don't give
a crap about things that associate with I don't care.
I actually think I have a like.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
A perversion to it.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I know that I have an aversion to it. I
think it's sting worse because I've gotten older.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Do you think so if because fame brings certain opportunity, right,
there are certain advantages. Like Raven tells this story at
I are going into retirement for a little bit and
then all of a sudden, people kind of didn't know
who she was, and then she was standing in lines
and she was like, wait, this sucks, Like I don't
stand in lines, like I'm going to have to go
back to work. Do you have something kind of like that,

(40:19):
where like if your fame were taken from you tomorrow
and all of a sudden, you're just, like, you know,
bumping elbows with every other Jo Schmo out there, you'd
be like, wait, no.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I still bump vols with all the Joe Schmolls. I'd
be in lines. Okay.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I just went to Universal Studios the other day and
my ass was in a long ass line for the Manions.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
So that's it just is what it is in New York.
But I feel like there's something I don't know. Okay.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
I just bought a house in Westchester and I go
to our local Lifetime Jim. I swear it's my social club.
I like to meet people there.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I have.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I met a woman that was doing a blotty class
for me. She's sixty eight years old. She ended up
coming to my baby shower like she's family. Okay, Like
I'm made friends out there, and I actually like, I
actually like and praise the normalcy. Like I don't know
if it's because then I fly to LA and here
we are be to capacity and I'm about to go
to an event, right, but I have done it long enough,

(41:14):
you know what I mean, Like I haven't just cut
the cord completely.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
But there's a different there's a different kind of fame though, Adrian, Right,
there's Beyonce fame, and then there's like our I don't
want that Beyonce fame is did I love her? But
Michael Jackson fame, Madonna fame. Like that's a different kind
of to where you can't survive the normal. You can't
go to your social club up the street. But I
feel like the grocery store, Adrian, myself and in our

(41:39):
category of people, like we could put on a baseball cap,
some sweats in your stroller and.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Somebody might be like, damn, I love you, but it's
not going to be like like, well, for me, it's
definitely not gonna be like got to shut down the
block and the highways closed down because people are pulling
over in the cars. And I actually said this on
the reel and I got murdered, and I was like,
give me, give me my D list celebrity life.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I'm so happy.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
I make a good living, I get the perse where
I want the perse, and at the same time, I
really do get to have a real life, and that
hopefully one day when I'm older, I won't necessarily be
doing stuff in front of the camera constantly, NonStop, and
I'll get to have the simple life that I've kind
of worked really hard to get to.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
You know, it's interesting, you know, it's interesting to me
kind of recently, Harry. Should I even say their names?
I don't know. There was there was a certain couple
that was in New York City that reported they were
in this high speed Megan and Harry. Okay, yeah, but
here's the deal that I was thinking about this after
the fact. I was like, Okay, when you're that high

(42:44):
profile and you have that level of hounding, you learn
how to navigate your life in a different way. Like
jay Z and Beyonce are super famous, and we don't
see them being splashed around like that. They're still going out,
they're still doing things. You learn how to navigate the
paparazzi and that world in a certain way. You learn
how to have back entrances. You learn. So it's like, yes,

(43:07):
you have to change your life, but you also I
think you adapt, but you don't have to be victim
to it.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
But it depends on who you are, right Like, it
totally depends. There's somethings want fame. There are some people
who want the hysteria. There's some people who think that
because the only thing they see a famous people or
what we see on the magazines, Like that's what life is.
And those people are are our one hit wonders, our
you know, shooting stars real quick. But then there are

(43:34):
people and I'm gonna be one hundred like Adrian myself
and I can name a whole list of people who
will be in front of the camera and behind the
camera working in this industry for the rest of our lives.
But we won't necessarily reach Beyonce fame, but you'll know
who the fuck we are. And that to me is
enough because I get my check, I get my life,
I get a little bit of a oh yeah, hid it?

(43:59):
And that there's levels to fame, And like Adrian said earlier,
you have these new people new fame in the TikTok
world and the social media world that don't have to
go through the hard knock life that we went through
to understand how to manage that fame. Right, there's some
people in the YouTube world who say, oh, I'm putting

(44:20):
my whole life out for display and this is who
I am and I'm like you.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
And they don't care.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
There's there's no limit or boundary to what they will
do for fame. Yeah as well, so I think they
just assume we all out here like that, like we're
all willing to do every and anything just to be famous,
and that ain't any And there's also we got famous
that's not that's just not it.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
There's such a different fame too, from let's say like
YouTube slash TikTok fame to music musicians slash actor fame,
because part of the YouTube TikTok thing is just bringing
a person into your life. You're not you're not putting
on a role or performing to an extent, you're just like, Okay,
this is my day in a life, and this is

(45:00):
my kid, and this is my husband, and this is
the supermarket I go to. So I think people feel
like they really really know you, versus like you know
when you're watching an act or act that they are
putting on a role, even if there is that entanglement
where you're like, oh, I've watched Adrian my whole life,
like I know her, she's my best friend, and you're like, okay,
actually there's.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
A layer of separation though there's a screen. I have
a quick question and it's kind of off of fame
but kind of thing. But we talked about this earlier.
So Adrian has the voice of an angel, as my
mom used to say, and she does now, Adrian, my
wife and I talked about this a couple days ago.
Do you feel like, as a singer and someone who's
been in the music industry, there's more power in music

(45:41):
or acting when it comes to gathering fans. And I
say this because we talk about kind of the siren
aspect of it, using your vocals to hypnotize others in
order to bring them to your camp of people. With acting,
you're looking you're still pulling on you emotional strings. But
when Adrian sings I shut the fuck up, like I

(46:04):
just do.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
And you have a husband who's also in the music industry.
Is there a different type of fame for music than
there is for us.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Yes, I absolutely think there is.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
I think that there is something about music that is
so freaking powerful. And I think that while I think
there's storytelling, there's even storytelling in music. And I think
people use music to get them through hard times, and
so sometimes there's an emotional connection. While you'll watch a movie,
some people watch something on repeat. I think there's something

(46:37):
that like when you're driving your car, this is a song,
you're crying. You're listening to a certain soundtrack or an album,
and you're emotionally so connected to those songs that even
if you hear them years later, you still feel where
you were.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Then, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
So I think music has a like a superpower that
like is unexplainable. But I do think acting can do
that too, in the sense of like a film that
maybe impacted you in a way that like you view
things that you view life differently. There's a the way
that's taught yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah, oh god, okay, the whale changed my life. I'm sorry,
yeah right, I just I just stopped eating. She's like,
and I never ordered a pizza again.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
But yes, there's that. No listen, I think there.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
I'm trying to think if there's a movie that ever
impacted me or moved me in such a way or that, and.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
That's mine Selena, but.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
That had music.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
And loved the movie Selena, but.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
That has it is the music in it. But that movie,
that movie did something to me. And that's interesting, Adrian
that you said that about the nostalgic piece and the
emotional piece, because the other day, somewhere over the Rainbow
came on and I'm listening to this song and I'm
starting to get emotional, and I thought, my gosh, my
mom used to play this song. She would get emotional

(47:58):
because her, her father, my grandfather used to play this
song and get emotional. And I'm like, that's so wild
that it's now a generational impact that we are all
getting triggered by, essentially because of hearing these sounds. And
Raven and I, like you were saying, we talk about
this because it is so powerful and if you think

(48:21):
about the history of music even and it starts with
like chanting and Buddhist monks, it's incantations, it's and that
is essentially. We were watching Beyonce perform and she's, you know,
creating this rhythm, this beat. Everyone in the audience is
doing the same thing. If you look at it in
some lenses, it.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Can create energy.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
It's an energy. It can look kind of cultish in
some lenses. It's it's very interesting to really dissect it
and get into but it's incredibly powerful. And I think
if I could have any talent in the world, if
I could be famous for anything, it would be a voice.
I think like.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
It's it's and that's too much power for me. I've
tried it and it's a lot of power, and I
see that if it's too big, Michael Jackson, Elvis, even Beyonce,
it you really do have to take care of your
soul and who you are. And that's one of the
things that you know with fame again comes back to
the levels, Like when you reach a certain level of fame,

(49:15):
you no longer are a normal human. It shifts and
you know, sacrilegious, You're a god to some people because
you are emotionally changing things. But with us over here
on real Earth, it's like to be able to tap
into your voice Adrian here and there and move people,
to be able to, you know, create a line of

(49:39):
jewelry and move people that way so that when they're
looking at themselves, they can be like, oh, that's Adrian.
I love that she has really loved that die. She
has really dove into the ether of humans to connect
who she is to our culture. And I really appreciate
that about you, which is why you're famous.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
There's also a real authenticity to Adrian, which is like,
in getting to know you better, Adrian, I'm like, oh,
you're real, which is why everything you do is going
to have that feeling of real, which more people are
gonna connect to.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
But but I don't see her mask because I know
her off camera and on camera, and she doesn't really
have a very thick mask. She you know, she does
put it on when necessary. I see it, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
But when we talk, everyone has to have it.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Everyone has it. But when we talk talk, I'm like, oh,
I fuck with this girl, so coo.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
We're like we're the same people from back then, Like
our conversations are so honest, and I actually love the way,
and I ended up telling my husband that the aside
I loved obviously doing Raven's home, but what I appreciated
and walked away loving the most was the side conversations
we would have, you know what I mean, Like I
would walk away and be like, yo, like you're so insightful,

(50:47):
like the things that and I even love, like when
you talk about the work you've done on yourself and
you're just like, oh, like I don't do that anymore,
or I get away from these kinds like I learn
so much from Raven and that and I listened and
I'm just like, damn, that's so dope, like a real
person who has so much depth to them.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
I think it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
You're the same though. I think you guys mirror that
in each other. And I know that's why you guys
are still friends and still you know, respect each other.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
But I have a question.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I can say to know what I'm saying, you can't.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I can't say bubbles and shooties for life and know
what that means the hell? Okay whatever, I'm not. Yeah,
I know I was in the shoots. Who is the
most famous person you've ever met?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Michael Jackson Beyonce.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Michael jack Michael Jackson, Beyonce. I've never I'm trying to close.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
It is really famous. Did you Michael, Michael Jackson, and Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
You met them?

Speaker 4 (51:45):
But I met Michael Jackson because three l W did.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
After nine eleven.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
He had a song called what If I Got That
I Can Give and he ended up doing a huge
concert for it, and we got to sing some backgrounds
on the song. So we were invited to that concert
and we got to perform it with him at the end,
which is amazing. And there is the I Actually, this
is why I appreciate Instagram. Okay, On Michael Jackson's birthday,
someone tagged me in a photo and I was in
the background somewhere the way. I zoomed in and was like,

(52:13):
this needs to be framed. It's me and Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
It's me. Hold up, no, it's me and Michael Jackson.
Like I'm somewhere back here, but I'm in the same frame.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
And I was like, thank you for the tag because
now I have the photo.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
I hope there was a hashtag icons or hashtag legends.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
It's a hashtag legends rather.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
That is amazing. And you said Beyonce for you babes
or Michael.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
I met Michael. I met Michael when I was younger.
I gave him an award. It was me and Emanuel Lewish,
My god, remember Emmanuel Lewis. So yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Wonder feel like I've seen a photo of this.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
You have, you have it, It's been circulating. And then
I met Beyonce, which was in Destiny's Child honey when
they were not real, real famous, when they were just
starting off with their first album. I remember that.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Remember the poem that you were cited for Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
My godfather. I don't remember it by heart, but yes.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Have you ever seen that clip? Adrian, Oh my god,
we're sending it to you immediately. It's the cut even
like sits on his lap, there's like soft music playing underneath,
and she's like, you are the most magical man that
I ever saw. And then I went here and I
love you, and I'm just like, what the hell.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
You're so cute? It's the cutest, was amazing.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Well, all I'm saying is, Okay, I know you watched
the Cheeta Girls, but can we have an honest moment
you ever watched The Cosby Show and just think she's
the cute, like the most adorable child you've ever seen
in your entire life, because I want to take her faith.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Like this, and she looks like cute shame faith.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
It's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
It's a bit of a.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
For that reason alone, You're like, let me have that baby,
you know.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Fuck, that's what I say.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Oh, that's literally what I say. I look at.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Liter.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Really, I look at her, and I get mad that
they haven't figured it out scientifically enough yet to make
it happen with two women, because I just want that baby,
the baby that is her.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
It's so cute.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Okay, she's she's canceling as the most famous person I've
ever met, Oh, Babes, tell us probably Sinatra?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Yes, Frank, you met Frank Sinatra?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yes, snicky blue eyes. Well, Frank, yeah, I think that
he probably is the the most It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
You can't you say you met him? I need to
know how the hell did you meet Frank Sinatra?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
So well, oh, here we go. My father is good
friends with the Sinatra family, so growing up it was
just kind of we all.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, she just chilled at the house for tea.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Its mingled and so yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
It's interesting. Though, because we are going back other than beyond,
we went back to another generation of fame, and you know,
that generation of fame. I feel like the people who
were watching really admired it and wasn't and weren't really
trying to live to be that kind of person.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
They just were like, yeah, and it wasn't even accessible.
It's just exactly old Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
And yeah, you know, according to per you Gob, I
have a little fact here that forty three percent of
millennial American millennials and gen Zers would like to be famous,
which is totally different than our parents' generation. Our parent generation,
they just hey, that's Michael and that's Frank.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Love it, but but I'm not going to become.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Them exactly this generation, like everyone's vine for fame. Like
there's this Russian percent forty three percent. That's ridiculous. That's
the people of all of America. That is absolutely ridiculous.
And not that I'm mad about it mad, but it's
more like it's not for everyone.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
It's a little bad.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Actually, it is sad, and it's very tele it's telling
of what celebrity culture has done to our society. And again,
there's a big difference between a person who's like, I'm
a performer, I'm an actor, I'm a singer, I'm an artist.
I want to tell my story or share my expression
through this lens. And then a byproduct of that is

(56:20):
fame versus a human who's like creating doing this because
I have become stuck in the veil of what I
think being famous is. And here's the deal. I'm not famous,
but I have had to step into a position in
front of the camera, which requires then certain things. And
I've now worked you know, behind and in front, and

(56:43):
being in front of the camera is draining. It is
exhausting on so many different levels.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
She didn't understand it. I would go to work, I'd
come home and I'd lay on the couch for three days.
She's like, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?
I was like, I don't know she did it.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
She was like, I did press for a day and
I was like, fuck this ship.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Take this makeup over her.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I can't talk. I'm losing my voice. I was like,
what the hell is that? And you don't need.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
To hear that, though, Like they really need to hear that,
because they don't realize all the energy that you put
out in it actually can be like you're just giving
of yourself in a way that I don't think is
natural to some extent like that, it's.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Not a natural And here's the thing too, Like I
see this with Raven, right, So people look at Raven
and they're like, oh, she's the person who makes me laugh.
She's always happy. Therefore, if a fan comes up to
Raven and we've just had an argument, or she's like
super constipated, or she's just constipated, right, super gassy and grouchy,

(57:45):
and then this little girl comes up to her, she
has to flip. She has to turn it on all
of a sudden and be that happy person to give
this person.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Silently farting in the little girl's face.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Right, Well, you know huge when you.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Flip, and then when you flip, you're call phony exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
And but that's that's a that's a burden.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
There's no way you can't win when you're famous, because
everyone is mad and happy for you at the same time.
How are you doing so far, Adrian? Can we have
a little bit more of your time because we have

(58:25):
a game.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, I'm down, talk to me.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
We have play again again.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
So babes give her the spiel of what she'll win.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Okay, so here's the deal, Adrian.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
There's a pride.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, there's a purse. But here's the deal. So fun
fact that you might not know about my wife. She
likes to collect things and hates to get rid of things.
So some people some people, some people. Some people call
it orders television shows.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
I think we need to and learns.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Anyway, everyone's a thesaurus.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
It's I think it's a collector's problem. It's not a
whod anyway.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Hoarder on hoarders. Ever, I'm a collector.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
I can't let but I can't see my toilet. And
if it wasn't for my collecting, Adrian, you wouldn't win
this amazing prize. It's called the Slate two. You might
wonder what this is. This is the perfect companion for
pen and paper levers. You connect this to your computer.
It has paper in it and as you write, it
also downloads to your computer. So when you're in your

(59:34):
workshop and you want to draw up a new necklace,
or when you want to write a song, or when
you want to put together I really want to win,
put together something for your YouTube. You write it on
normal paper and then it digitizes it to your iPad,
computer or any of your technological things. It works for me.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Is a great collector's item.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Well, it's hopefully coming to you immediately, because then it's
one less thing in my house. And Raven probably has
six of because she doesn't ever order one of anything.
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
All right, this is the deal retail value at one
hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, there you go. She that was her best game
show host voice ever. Okay, Adrian, So, as I now know,
you guys are famous together for your iconic work in
the girl group and TV show Cheatah Girls. So to
test your knowledge on your own fame, I'm going to
ask you trivia questions about the Cheetah Girls, and whoever
gets the most right wins. Adrian, you better win, Adrian.

(01:00:31):
If you can pull off the victory, you know what
you're going home with. And let's let's get this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
You probably think this is our show's sponsors, but it's not. Okay,
it's just something sitting around that I have purchased, so
it's not sponsored.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
So whatever, Raven, Yes, who is Derek's friend and bandmate
in Sonic Chaos?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
That black dude? The black dude. Oh my god, I
just saw it. I don't remember his name, the black
dude name.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
That's that's that's incorrect. Buzz yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Adrian's face is stuck because she can't remember the name either.
Answer and that you were the one you you had
a crush.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Yeah, like dating him, like that was the underlying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Mackerel?

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
We absolutely knew that name, and you absolutely have a
line that says mackerel in the film.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I do have a line that's you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Say mackerel something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Okay, so zero zero holyme, they're a holy mackerel in there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Probably the better be around a drink of champagne. Adrian. Ready,
what's the name of the client who Galleria forgot to
tell her mother needed to be rescheduled? Fuck? That's hard scene.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Hold on all the backs mean but today, wait, hold on, wait,
wait wait, I'm pretty dark clothes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Hold up, Damn, I can't even phone a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Constellation Jones, Constellation Jones, these name.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
I was so close yet so far?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Zero zero zero? Come on, you guys, come on, Okay, babes, Well,
the girls are performing at the birthday party. Who gets
their heels stuck?

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Oh, we know that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I know that is it Aqua?

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, it's Aqua.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
No, it's me, it's me, It's me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
And what I thought it was? Okay, it was awkward.
I thought it was Adrian.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
No, Adrian doesn't she She tries to help Aqua falls down.
Then Derinda goes.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
And you're right, You're one hundred percent right. You remember
the choreography.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
I do a choreograph, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
So did you just get a point?

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
I got a point point for me?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Come on, Adrian, you better win this thing. Adrian, what
is the first song in the Cheetah Girls too?

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Oh? Oh, you feel like it's together.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
So funny.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Literally, it's supposed to be that we're at our high
school and it's the end of the year, and it's
actually not true. That was also a film in Spain
and the entire audience did not speak English, and they're like,
and they have no clue what we're thinking about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Hilarious. Okay, it's one to one. One to one are
our last two questions. Okay, Raven, what color is Galeria's
jumpsuit at the end of the first movie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Oh, that's not fair.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I know that's not fair. I just rolled think that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Every day on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
For real, it's a pink Cheetah fun fact slash not
fact slash. Why the fuck did we all wear the
same outfit at the very end? We just randomly put
on the same outfit to come.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Says for a whole thing at the time they're coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I just I just will never worry.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I purple, you were purple? Love it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Okay, go okay, Adrian, you got this? Adrian, what is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
The fact that you guys can fully hear my son?

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
He's so cute.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Adrian. What is the name of Chanelle's mother's boyfriend?

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Oh, lou guess, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
We're getting a time We got a time breaker, We
got a time and I got that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, you guys both are killing it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
We're killing it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I wish I had a Jensen. You better make these
challenging for Raven and Adrian.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Okay, she's trying to get rid of that gift.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Yeah, he is all my gifts. She wants to get
rid of all mys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Okay, this is the tiebreaker, and whoever gets closest wins.
When The Cheetah Girls debuted in two thousand and three,
what was the total of all the band members' ages okay,
hold on, okay, and he's making you just do math hilarious,

(01:04:38):
rips out the calculator.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
I can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, go Adrian, I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Can do it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Hold on, hold on, thank calculator. I mean my calculata. Okay,
I was nineteen plus ke at least three years younger
than me, So she's sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Adrian, do it in your own head. Raven's doing this too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Oh sorry, I didn't even know how old you were.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I thought you were eighteen. Go again, damnly, I'm just
gonna guess, okay, three six. Now I'm gonna say seventy two.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Okay, one hundred and two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Okay, So Adrian came in one hundred and two, Raven
came in at seventy two.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Okay, wait wait, let me go again, let me go again,
Let me go again, Adrian.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Even though you did not win, the number is there here,
we're here. Raven was seventeen. Raven was seventeen. I was sixteen, Raven.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Was I think my calculator went wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
I was six.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Adrians out here typing it like one hundred plus.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
She aged nineteen were Kelly's three years younger than me,
So that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Six seventeen she was seventeen. Who knows according to what
I have, this is what I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
This is Jensen. I was fifteen, Adrian was nineteen, Kiley's
three years younger, nineteen eighteen, seventeen, sixteen, and Sabrina was eighteen.
So what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Oh No?

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
The movie came out after Keely's birthday. She turned seventeen
the following year my birthday exist.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Raven is still the closest, but Adrian is still the winner.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Adrian, you win a slate too, just because you don't
want this in the house anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
And I really want it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
It's actually really fun, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
I just want to put the house like we were each.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Like thirty years.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I know, Adrian's out here, like you guys were fifty
five years old.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
You weren't counting our mamas. You were counting Jackal Honey.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
That that's actually but that what in the calculation was
I pulled out?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Like part of my being famous is I only deal
in big numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
That Adrian, it has been an absolute pleasure to have
you on the best podcast ever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Thank you, Love.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
You have been a dream.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
You really have, Adrian, You're fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Please give us guy socials, Please, put us, put us
up on all your socials right now, just so we
could have it for everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
It is Adrian by Loan at Adrian by Loan pretty
much everywhere Twitter and Instagram, TikTok is Adrian Bylane Hote
and I think I think I added my married name Adrian.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
We love you so much. I will see you soon,
boo boo. And there's a lot of things on the
horizon for both of us just putting it out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I can't wait. I mean, you, guys, are you dropping
a hint that like a cheetah? Roles four.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
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Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
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