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November 17, 2025 89 mins

Rod and Karen discuss steaks sold out of a tent, people should steal from Target, and F1 is getting a sequel. Then they discuss Nicki Minaj speaking at United Nations, DOJ ethics watchdog fired for doing their job, DOJ suing CA, Ezra Klein makes a power play to influence democrats, MTG going against Trump, Pharrell Williams tells Black people to just be the best, sisters caught stealing from Target, girlfriend attacks boyfriend over $5 mobile payment to a female friend, man fires into house of repair dispute and sword ratchetness.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because
Roden Karen her hot.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, welcome to another episode of the Black Altils Podcast.
I'm your host, Rod Joiners always want co host? And
who's ready for the seven oh fourth quarter?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Who wants a free T shirt?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
All on the light Stein.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, we go to to we go to too many games.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
The Horners are playing in the fourth quarter against Toronto
right now, trying to make a comeback. LaMelo Ball is
back playing. Brandon Miller practiced for the first time today
cool and did practice with the Greensboro Swarm, which is
like right before they get ready to take you off
the injury list and put you back into the game.

(00:49):
So we might be getting Brandy Miller back. It's it's
it's fun times right now. For those of y'all that
don't care, that's horn is Oh my god, Ryan Cochbrinder
just got killed by Brandon Ingram. He duck on him,
and I think Coprenda might be dead. But other than that,
I can't see. It's been a good Well, that's that's
your fault. It's been a good seven oh fourth quarter

(01:10):
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the official weapon of the show is folded and the
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doing this late night because there's stuff I want to
talk about with just life and politics and all that,
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(01:32):
guest Mike Caplan, and you know, with me and Mike
and Karen are here, we kind of just get to
talking and we might not get to be able to
cover as much of the like news and current events
and pop culture stuff. So I was like, let me
see what we can knock the dust off of the
night and then move into uh, you know, in the
more because it might be a more talkie episode tomorrow.

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(03:37):
up the banter music. There we go.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Do you have any Do you have any.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Do you have any banter? Answer?

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Banter?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Banter? Answer? Do you have any banter? Talk to me?
Do you have any banter? Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
We was riding down the road and I do not
know who thought this was a good idea. I happened
to look up and it looked like a look like
a back of a truck with a big ass sign
on it. This says twenty ribbys for thirty five dollars,
I said Roger Day I said that. I was like,
that is katniks? Like that is not real meat?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I was like, twenty rib It doesn't say what
animal the rib eye. It could be raccoon rib eys Uh.
I mean, I'm it's.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
In the back of a truck. Is it e refrigerated?
The fuck is this?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I know we're going through it, okay, don't get me wrong.
I know the economy is down and it's bad, and
I know we're doing whatever we can the scripts save
and try to get what we need out of this economy.
But I also can't imagine it's twenty dollars twenty ribos

(05:11):
for forty dollars bad Like, I it's not bad enough
yet for me to trust whatever that meat is. That
could be human meat for real?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
You know what the FDA approved?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Like is that a trick by? Like is that how
ice get you or something? And it wasn't. It wasn't
the back of a truck. It was a tent. It
looked like a tent on there, and it was scary.
This is I'm gonna reddit. This is what it looked like.

(05:43):
But at a but like on the side by a
gas station.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh yeah, that's one of one of them. Yeah, the
one we seen it was like a truck with that.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
It was a tent too. I looked over there. Yeah,
because I looked over there, like what's that white tent
doing there with that big ass sign?

Speaker 3 (05:59):
And I was like, Oh, let's travel the country with
this shit?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
And so on Reddit, this is a thing like people
have seen this before. People are talking about these these
and of course the ribbon, it's it's in Reddit. It's like,
can I trust this? It's just real steak. This is
a year ago steak twenty rib yes for forty dollars
to just got my gas stations a lot selling them
out the back of a pickup truck. Ha ha.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
You know it ain't even cold. This ship, this shit
kind of god has a mold and mildew on it
because it's not it ain't cold enough.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm I'm not trusting steaks sold out of a tent. No,
And I'm gonna be real with you because I know
how our audience is, and I know there's somebody like
Sean or somebody out there that knows everything and has
tried everything and will tell me that I'm ignorant for
assuming this. I know that's people that are Arby's apologists
that will be like, no, you can trust it, tent,

(06:54):
tent ribs, steaks is good. I also now don't trust you.
If you say that, no, I don't dress you. You
are added to the list. I feel like there's items
that shouldn't be sold out of unconventional housing, and I
feel like steak out of a tent, does it? That's

(07:16):
green eggs and ham on the train?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Come on? Come on, what is happening here? Ain't a refrigeration?
What is happening?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Like I don't know what I mean. They probably got refrigerator.
It's probably like the same kind of refrigerator you had
in your dorm room, right, was barely cold, them little
small ones to got bail over fifty degrees. I don't
know who the people are that's buying it, but I
mean they must be sliced things. They must be like, uh,

(07:47):
you get a sheet of ribbots, like you must.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Be like, oh, we.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Got forty loose leaf sheets of ribbys.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You get poshment paper of.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Ribbi them rivites, Probably you get forty of them, but
it's still way about as much as two rear bars.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's like, yeah, you get Look, what's the structures for
how to cook these? Put it on the grill ten seconds.
It's done. That's how thin it is. Now.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Now, if you buy ash, you better cook that bitch
well done.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
If you want a medium, put them on the grill
five seconds. If you want them well done ten seconds.
That's out there they.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Are, yeah, like even skirt meat.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know who these people are. I don't trust it.
What's the FBA? This is wi happened when you let
rfk JR be a charge because he got he probably
got a brain word from eating bears in the park
raw or whatever. And now here we go with he
doesn't roll back all the rules or we can get
tent tent steaks. Well, what's next, You're gonna get lobsters

(08:48):
out of igloo? Like what are we doing? We're just
making up meats and matching them with housing. That's what
we got. Now, I'm good on that. I'd rather eat
steak THEEMS.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I would.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Dude, it ain't no steak ONMS. I bet you was
steak on but.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Like this in these were these mistakes. Your blood press
might be high, but you ain't gonna die immedi.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Isn't he He doesn't repurpose some steak ONMS And they're like,
y'all need to come get these. Y'all better come get
these real bars for forty dollars for seventy five of them,
because that's a good deal.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Mis steakles full of so much so him, it's gonna
kill all the bacteria.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I know that motherfucker. I know whoever that dude was.
He looked at the motherfucker inflation numbers and was like, yeah,
so uh it's my time, baby, pull out the steak
tent it's time. These people desperate. Okay, Target, they're about
to go back to Target. If they Target for seventeen
percent less on on Thanksgiving meals, they ready to break

(09:47):
the strike on Target.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
It's seventeen percent mo salmonella.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Right, And I'm listen speaking of Target. Not only do
I not shop at Target, because I know some of
y'all like, I'll Miller Tom, I'm pro black, I don't
they they messed up with that anti d y'all. Shit,
I don't fuck with Target. I'm done with them. That's
cool for y'all, Okay, but me and mine we go
a little further. I steal from Target because I'm morewoke

(10:15):
than y'all. Okay, they owe me for my people. Okay,
I'm willing to go to jail for this. I go
up in there and I just take something, put it
in my shirt and walk right out and be like,
fuck y'all Black lives matter, and they be like, Okay, Okay,
that guy, he gets it, so thank you. Listen. I
encourage all y'all steal from Target, but you better not
take it to the next level. Don't just be satisfied

(10:37):
with boycott. You better have some money, don't be satisfied
with boycott and put your life on the line.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Y'all still record everything and in there.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Take a twix. I don't care how small it is.
Everything counts when it comes to hurting their bottom line.
Karen to him, that was it? Okay. The last thing
for me is they making a sequel to F one.
I found out that thinking about it. I saw that
movie in the in the theater. It was fucking amazing
experience in imax. Definitely recommend it for people if that's

(11:06):
that's the best way to see it. It might not
hit the same on Apple or whatever. But anyway, they're
making a sequel. Y'all know my thing about sequels, what's
gonna be the name? If the first one was F
one and you make a sequel, should it be called
F two?

Speaker 3 (11:22):
That makes sense, Yes, it should be called F two.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Does it have to be F one plus one?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
May we add another driver to the mix F and
another one?

Speaker 4 (11:37):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I could get down with that. Somebody I said on
Twitter they should call it F two, and someone said
I think it was super sports girl. She said, only
if they put control in front of it, like control.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
F two, let's go.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I'm like, you know, I like that you get me Okay,
you allowed to punch up my jokes. I like, I
like that's the kind of silly.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Let's get your left too. That's actually great.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Don't know what an F one sequel would be about.
But yeah I'm in just cause there's certain movies where
it's just like, yes, we just got to lead. There's
there's certain movies where it's just kind of like, you
know what, don't this is for people that go to movies,
So keep making these, you know what I mean? Like
it's just like some like not every movie is good

(12:30):
in the way of like, man, I've never seen this before.
Sometimes it's just like if you execute the movie well
I'm in the theater, it don't have to be mind blowing.
It's just a thing well done. Is a thing well done.
F one is a thing well done. The acting is
good enough, the direction in cinematography is good enough, the

(12:54):
cast is good enough, and so you just end up
being like, yes, this is why I go to One
of the reasons I go to movies is for this
shiny expensive uh, you know, big stunts and all that
kind of ship. Uh, someone say F one and fast
ten cross over. That might be the only way we
get fast hand. Don't sound like they want to make
that one dog.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
They said. They was like, y'all need to cook this
budget down.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah. I would love to see it though, But yeah,
all right, that's it. Let's get into some politics until
we get mad. I didn't know she was black until
a number of years ago when she happened to turn black,
and now she wants to be known this. Black people
have got to know whether or not they're presidentship crook.
But I'm not a crook.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
I've learned everything I've got in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I know what she fetched a probab in Tennistry. But
just fooling me. Want shame on, Shame on, shame on,
Shame on you. Shame We can't get fool again.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
I tell you what I don't know about you.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
But I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to
point is up to Miles Bridges just hit the three.
We just got to stop Miles Bridges wide over for
three a grad he missed it. Hopefully the NBA doesn't
suit me for giving out accounts and descriptions of a love.
We don't know how lilititious they are. We're gonna find
out on.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
YouTube, guys, right, the likeness it is not supposed to
be blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, thie game, although they didn't call that travel on
Scottie Barnes. All right, Uh, Nicki Minaj to speak at
United Nations on behalf of Trump administration of course, of course, okay,
in do tail care and and and the thing is, she's.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Been slow, in my opinion, she's been slowly going down
a rabbit hole. And I think she's been doing a
lot of shit that has been very distractive, and she's
been more and more aggressively kind of going to the
Republican side by like her statement, well, we've.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Been seeing that on Twitter, Like she took a real
big turn as of the last month or so. And
it's kind of proof of concept of a thing we
talk about. It don't take much like Republicans are so
happy to have a token, they'll take one with no bonafides. Now,
it's not that Nigga hasn't been problematic and kind of
in the toxic world of the Trump culture war. Like

(15:23):
I remember her the lie she made of a boy
a cousin who got the vaccine and like Trinidad or something,
she's not a citizen, right.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
She couldn't even vote in this, And.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
We're sending her.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
To the U n.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
To join Mike Wats, the US Ambassador, to deliver remarks
spotlighting violence committed against Christians in Nigeria. And it's on
from her just tweeting. And that's why I asked you
when you said it's like, of course it's not. It's
exactly what you said that she made this pivot. But

(16:04):
also what does it say about this administration that a
month of tweets and they're like a famous black artist
who gave a month worth of tweets that seemed to
her nonsensical tweets, but just signal to us she's ready
to come on into the Trump tent with these steaks.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
And let's let's go ahead and get her to sell
a real boys, right.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
And the thing is that there's nothing wrong with being
black here and not being not being born and raised
an America citizen. That's not the problem.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, yeah, of course not. I mean it's the administration
that got a problem with that.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Now, Yes, the problem is for them they just see
black and like like and not time Fundy. They don't
need to even do their research to find you know me,
to find like research on them. They just go you black,
you're American, you're famous rapper.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
As far as we concerned, Yeah, I think she saw
They saw a popular person, a popular artist, who was
willing to burn their whatever for Trump, And they don't
really care. They'll take any and every distraction, any and

(17:12):
every piece of fuel that can get over there.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
And also they both are distracting each other. She's helping
them distract from this, and they're helping her distract from
her husband and her being dragged on lie like a
crash right like like not try like everybody is helping
each other be in my opinion, be a distraction from
the reality that they both need to face.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Nigga's involvement was poorly arranged by Trump media advisor Alex
bruce Wich, which also is who is also expected to
speak at the event. Yeah, it's like some mallow Y'allannapolis
type shit like this. This that that's who runs a
lot of this stuff.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Is that, like.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's just a culture war for us, So all we
really care about is anything. It's almost the Russian bots
on Twitter. They're not necessarily focused on any specific political
movement as much as it's just, Oh, people are arguing
and divided over this, let's just go ahead and get
into like whatever this is. Oh they fighting about address color?

(18:16):
Is it blue or gold? Let's start the box up.
And I feel like she signaled to that. Now some
people are saying they maybe she's trying to get her
husband taken off of the pedophile watch list. You know, maybe,
I guess that could make sense too, because Trump is
very transactional and willing to trade a lot of stuff,

(18:36):
although I don't know, like, yeah, I could see him
doing something like that just off of the Epstein shit alone,
you know.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah. And it's also I guess I looking in my opinion,
it's one of those things where there are a lot
of people that are here that can't vote and they're
still like fuck Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
So this is her issue, of course.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
You know what I'm saying, type of thing. And she's
standing out on purpose because she wants and.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
She was awarded for it, right, this is a choice.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
She wants to stand out, and it would not be
surprising within a few months, maybe maybe a year, you
start hearing about charges against her husband being decreased, like
like they start downgrading them and ship like that.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
A Department of Justice watchdog said they were fired over
paying Bondy's thirds for free stuff. So there's an ethics
advisor that for the Justice Department that makes sure people don't,
you know, violate the laws of ethics, which is like, hey,
getting a bunch of free shit, violating these these ethical

(19:39):
rules like who you give contracts to and shiit not
so you're not just hooking up your friends and stuff
like that. Well, they were doing their jobs and they said,
basically I got fired for doing my job and being like,
you can't get these lavish gifts, including some exemplary cigars.
His name is Joseph Terrell. That the former director of

(20:00):
the dlj's Department Ethics Office, and he said he had
to vigorously push back against Bondi staff over there keeping
a box of cigars gifted by Mixed Martial Arts star
Connor McGregor. MMA star Connor McGregor is who they got
the cigars for it from. Now, what does Connor McGregor

(20:21):
have to do with the DLJ what? But yeah, he said,
we got a request about some cigars from Connor McGregor
and a soccer ball from FIFA, and I felt like
I really had to go to the mattress to convince
the AG's office you can pay for the item, or
you can return the item, or you could throw the
item away. There's no other way to do this, right, right, right.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Right, because their job is like, hey, we have these
laws for a reason, y'all. Y'all can't just be out
here just wiling.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
And McGregor was involved because I guess they're trying to
do some sort of event at the White House for
the UFC, and he claim that he was in direct
negotiation with the White House rather than the UFC, saying
he wanted one hundred million dollars and one hundred golden
visas to fight at the event. And of course this

(21:10):
administrations for sale.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, everything for sale, people, And when everything's for sale,
that is very, very very dangerous.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
You risk a lot of shit when everything's for sale. Yeah,
he's been told people that, you know what I'm saying.
So it's just one of those things where you know,
I hate to say I told you so, but I
told you so. If he was willing to take classified
documents and put him in a fucking bathroom. Do you
think he gives a shit about anything else?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
And that it trickles on down Like that's the real
trickle down economics is if the president is a person
that don't give a fuck, then why would his deputy
chief give a fuck? While with the Department of Justice
give a fuck. They don't give a fuck?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Why would Nicki Minaj give a fuck? Because you have signaled, Like,
in my personal opinion, Trump has signaled all you crooks,
are you schemers, are you scammers? All you hustlers. He
has put the motherfucking signal out it is time to play,

(22:15):
and they will not be consequences. But the thing is,
they're not consequences for him. That's the thing. A lot
of these scammers out here fucking around and and and
they're like, no, bitch, you not Donald Trump. Take your
aster jail. But for most, but for Donald Trump, he
is like, hey, I scam my way all the way
to the motherfucking top. And he is like goals for

(22:38):
so many of those people. That's why you have politicians
that came out with being cricket. That's why you have
you know, senators, governors, like they all are coming out
and it's like well, fuck if he get away with it, bitch,
I can to.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
The Justice Department, speaking of the DJ, has sued to
block California's US House map in a class that could
keep control of Congress. Keep in mind, the DLJ did
not elect to sue Texas or North Carolina or any
of the other states that said they were going to redistrict.
But we're expecting the game Republican seats, right, crickets. But

(23:15):
now that California is doing it, expecting the game blue seats.
And I think also because Gavin Newsom is such a
loud albatross around Trump on social media, they're going after
them because Virginia also is redistricting to get more blue seats.
I don't know if it's happened already or if it's
one of those things where like they you know that

(23:38):
when that is triggered, they're gonna sue or they just
ain't norm Virginia. I don't know, but it says a
lot that they're not who they're not suing, right, you know,
when Texas unfair is unfair? Texas, Missouri, and North Carolina
have not faced federal legal ac action for revamping district
lines following Trump's call for new maps to expand GOP

(23:59):
numbers in the House, and I'm sure you know, somebody
will tell us, you know, whether it's Ezra Klein or
or fucking uh schwartzing A or somebody will tell us
how you know, the Democrats shouldn't do it just because
the Republicans are doing. But you don't see the power
play that's happening right now. You don't see the They

(24:21):
flagrantly fouled us and we they spit in our face,
but we're getting ejected for punching them, you know what
I mean, sir. So, yeah, they're gonna they're gonna sue
California over those maps. Uh, there's a long read here.
I won't re read it all. But Ezra Klein is

(24:42):
apparently got he's gotten the ear of some Democratic and
we lost by two guys. I'm sorry. Oh yeah, I
know a bitch good defense by Toronto. Anyway, Ezra Kleine
is making in rows with Democrats who are seeking like
voices to listen to. And he like he when he

(25:03):
said he was envious of Charlie Kirk, I was like,
he was envious of the influence Charlie Kirk built because
what Charlie Kirk had was actual power within the Republican apparatus. Yes,
people from Project twenty twenty five and stuff like that
were in alignment with him. He met at the White
House and directed Trump and people in policy positions over
the years many times. And I told you it's the

(25:25):
absolute value of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Ezra Kleine would argue, he doesn't really agree with a
lot of his stances on things, but he was envious
of that power and he wants that for Democrats. When
he was doing that interview with Tanahasi Coats, which was
basically just served as like a let me defend myself.
But when he did that, he kept saying we, and

(25:51):
he was talking about the Democratic Party, he kept saying we.
But I point that out, not why do you say
it's not a we?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I mean saying he's saying we, but in and it's
we you mean me? Because a lot of this shit
that you're saying I don't agree with. So there's no
as far as I'm concerned, there's no we.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
And when I point out that he's saying we, I'm
pointing out that he's saying we as if I'm not
a journalist, an objective person who's doing who's writing for
the New York Times about politics. He's saying, we the
left Democrats, Kamala Harri. I'm they should be listening to
me because we're on the same team, and I should

(26:31):
kind of be in charge. I want to be like
Charlie Kirk telling y'all what to do. That that says
a lot, because there was a time where to be
a journalist you would at least pretend that you're not
in this cultural war picking size and giving strategy. You're
you're giving strategy to the Democratic Party, but you're supposed

(26:53):
to be a podcaster or slash, you know whatever. Like
but which seems like a violence of some long held
journalistic ethics and tenants that you know, he is not
even pretending to have right.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Online and social media and for profit, and with everything
being the way is designed now, A lot of these
lines I blurred. And it goes back to Donald Trump.
When you have all these people in the office and
shit like that, all of a sudden, people go, will
all these things that don't matter anymore? Yea, even in

(27:31):
the quote unquote journalistic journalistic lane, where as the public
we should hold them to a if you're doing your
job right, where you should be held to a higher standard.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
You just should.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
But also in being held to that higher standard when
you say things that are wrong, you should be he
had accountable, And for me, it's very frustrating because this
we means you and it's all about you, because you're
saying you should be in control over a big ass
tent that includes a bast a lot a lot of people,
and studies, you know, numbers show it's a lot of
black and brown people, and black people overall are like,

(28:06):
we kind of rock this party. And so you're going
me as a white man because I'm white, and I
should have the right and authority to just come in
and brush y'all y'all niggas to the side and say,
my opinion is the only opinion that matters. You could
do that over there with them because it's all white,
but you can't do that over here with us.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Okay, So I agree, And I think it's interesting because
he's positioned himself as like a person who is pushing
basically an agenda to the Democrats through his columns, hit podcasts,
and private briefings with Democratic lawmakers, and his best selling

(28:43):
book Abundance with reporter Derek Thompson. Klein has shaped the
party strategies and policies in President Trump's second term. He
has spoken privately with Kamala Harris, Wes Moore, Gavin Newsome,
people who people think might run for president in twenty
twenty eight. He's also spoken with Josh Shapiro, the governor Pennsylvania,

(29:05):
on the sidelines of public events, and their teams have
been discussing Shapiro appearing on his podcast, which is so interesting.
Discussing him appearing on the podcast is very interesting, framing
like who's doing the negotiating and why, Like, can he
just not come on? Is it doesn't it sounds like
it almost sounds I would wonder how the power dynamic is.

(29:26):
Is Josh Shapiro the one, like, I don't know if
I want to do that, or is it as a
client been like, I don't know if I want to
have you on unless you like, agree to some some
points that I want to make. When Newsom signed a
California deregulation law aim at making it easier to build housing,
he posted on Twitter, We're urgently embracing an abundance agenda,
which is a reference to Klein's book that argues Democrats
need back to go back to pro growth policies. Klein's

(29:51):
column early in September urgent Democratic senators to shut down
the government to confront Trump's expansion of executive powers was
influential in the Senators doing that for an president at
forty three days, according to Senate Democratic officials, should Senate
Democrats partner with Senate Republicans fund this government? I don't
see how they can. He wrote words that spread throughout
the Senate office, and then after some moderates you know,

(30:12):
last weekend, said we're going to end the shutdown. He said,
he tweet, He urged him to twee. He urged him
to keep fighting, saying, if I were in the Senate,
I wouldn't vote for this compromise. Now that's not an
unpopular opinion. A lot of people agree with that, that
the Democrats shouldn't have compromised or signed that deal. But
it says a lot that the perception is he was

(30:34):
now he could have had no power, and this would
have happened without him. I don't know, but the perception
is this was how he wants the Democrats to act.
But it's interesting in that if he had the power
to make to influence the forty three days shutdown sounds
like he ran out of power, Like which is it

(30:54):
because at some point they said nah, So maybe he
doesn't have as much power as saying or maybe it
wasn't really about him in the first place. But even
this way of writing about him implies that there's an
agenda foot of him trying to say, I want a
foothold on the Democratic Party.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah, my thing is nobody voted for you. So you
don't actually have no power or authority into what they do.
You can talk to them all you want to do.
They can yaka yaka ya can turn around and do
whatever the fuck they want to do. You actually have
no power in or no influence over them. They will
smile in your face because that is their job. There
are politicians like like like, that's what they're going to do.

(31:32):
And so for me, it's like if you want to
be the face and the forefront and be in control,
be in control all of the time, some of the
same people, including you, Biden stepping down all some of
these same people down on Kamala. Yeah, you wote a
forefront of fuck face of that too. But when people
started calling you out and was like, hey, you didn't

(31:53):
want no responsibility. So my thing is, if you want responsibility,
tech responsibility all the mother fucking time, don't take responsibility. Halftime.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
No, I one hundred percent agree. That's That's exactly what
I was going to point out is when he was
telling Biden to step down and people were like, yo,
this is cousin you, he said, I don't have any influence.
All I'm doing is just talking. No one's listening to me.
But now you're at partisan events for Democrats, which at

(32:27):
the times is raised internal concerns because they're like, Yo,
what's as we're doing? Everybody here can't do that, right,
So yeah, it's it's interesting. And then I think obviously
the part for me that's the most disturbing, it's not
even his role, it's is this is what bothered me

(32:48):
about the fallout of the last election, is this Now
people like Klein who are to me kind of moderate
of centrist kind of people that think they're extremely left
and progressive, but if you listen to them talk, they're
left and progressivism kind of ends with white kind of

(33:11):
white people. Shit, right, It's like economic stuff, Yes, but
when you say, like, okay, what about you know, sticking
up for trans people, He's like, we can take or
leave that. We don't need that. If you say, well,
what about stuff with black people? Oh, that makes white
people uncomfortable. Let's just stop talking about that. I just
want to win. I just want to win, is what
he'll say. But his win means white wins and black

(33:34):
and brown and LGBTQ and MUSSLM and everybody else's losses. Yep, Like,
if we just dropped these things from our agenda, we
might be able to get some of the people that
like Trump to come back. Now, all we both agree
that that won't happen, so there's no need to discuss
that part. But my point being, if they're listening to him,

(33:56):
that tells you that this whole idea that lost was
gonna make the party come back even more liberal and progressive.
This should be a tell that, no, you're not gonna
get that, you're gonna get a lot more compromised.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Because a lot of people underestimated the politicians do and
they look at how do people vote. We are the voices.
We actually tell them what directions to take, and so
with common to losing. You know what we told them,
don't take chances. That's what we told them. Don't do

(34:34):
anything abnormal. Let's go ahead and swing back to whiteness.
And when they swing, they state they swing furzer than
most because they go, oh, we're gonna go to whiteness.
We're gonna try to get those Trump voters to come
over here. We're gonna try to get those burning voters
like like that, like like like that's what they're aiming for.
They're not aiming for, like the the centrist people, which

(34:56):
they are, they're not aiming for those people. They're kind
of skipping over those people, and they're going to to
the people that they're never gonna get. And then you're
gonna look me in my face with the people behind
you with the torches and the hood zone and say
can they come in the house? And then I'm wrong
when I tell you, motherfucking no.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
My other thing is this, How is this any different
from what people like him accuse Democrats of being, which
is out of touch with the average person. So as
long as they're listening to you. Coastal liberal elite political
wank who podcasts and writes books and column for The

(35:40):
New York Times. Now they're a party of the people
as long as the people is Ezra Klein. But when
they were but they were like when they were listening
to think tanks or donors or what they're just out
of touch. They don't know what the people want. But
I Ezra Klein, superman. I have put on my cape.
I know what the people want. I just think it's

(36:01):
very telling if this turns out to be a real thing,
like because this could also be Klein and people in
media kind of trying to connect him and create a
narrative of he's guiding them out of the wilderness while
there's while within the party, I was like, look, I
had a meaning with the Aza Klin, but I know
he's not determining my policy for twenty twenty fucking eight.

(36:23):
So it could just be that they're over hyping it
in this article. But the fact that they are beating
with him there and these are presidential hopefuls, it says
a lot about his influence that he claimed to not
have in the first place.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Right, And so you know, it's one of those things
where I look, I listen, and I pay attention. And
this is one of the main reasons why even I'm
not gonna lie. Once everybody got on this Joe BiDi
to stepped down train, I literally stopped all political podcasts.

(37:01):
I'm not gonna lie. I just stop. I have not
listened to one since because in my mind I would
just get furious. And yet I'm supposed to feel bad
for the fucking farm round in Timbuck two. I hear
them stories all the time. What about the black people
that are starving and not doing like like it wasn't
balanced to me. And when people say this shit ain't balanced,
everybody look at you like, no, we are balanced, but

(37:22):
you not. You're not balanced. You need to you if
you are balanced the things that are happening right now,
you should be hounding just as hard for this as
you are bounding for Joe Biden to step down. You
should say he's inconfident. You should. I should sleep articles
every day, I should see podcasts every day.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
But but yet you gonna get that.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
But you're gonna look me in my eye and you're
gonna tell me that that that that that that you're equal,
that these things are equal, and that there's not a bias,
you know. So for me, I really had to tap out.
I had actually, at one period of time, I was
paying like the monthly description to the New York Times
to get like buying to pay all all that stuff
because I've really, really, as one period of time, enjoyed

(38:03):
you know, what they were covering because it was kind
of keep me informed on a lot of things. But
for me, I'm like, I'm not giving you a dime
of my money when I don't believe you and what
you stand for. You tell me that we're on the
same side. I do not see you're wearing my colors.
Your colors are mixed. Dog, I do not see the

(38:24):
same color that I'm wearing. And you're stepping in the
room and you're telling all these people that it's gonna
be alright, It's gonna be okay. I got control. And
then when people go, will do you got control of this?

Speaker 7 (38:35):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I ain't got no real power. Well, we either got
the power you don't.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
One of the things that really bothers me to is
that predictably, let's say, because I think you have to
be careful with these moves. I feel like this is
the kind of move where when Democrats take back a
lot of seats next year, if that works out, He's
the kind of person that will try to step in
and take credit when no credit should be extended to him.

(39:02):
He will not have done shit. That will be people
going to vote. But the way we construct narratives, we
try to make a story out of it, as opposed
to like, maybe people just got tired of Trump. They
did this last time too. I also think you have
to be careful with a guy like this too, because
if they listen to him and it doesn't work, they

(39:25):
don't reach people. Maybe they lose black and brown votes,
maybe they lose whatever they somehow they lose votes and
they or they don't get the wins that he claimed
they would get with his agenda. He's the guy that
blamed y'all like he's like, y'all didn't say it right,
it's never they never accept. Maybe my ideas aren't as
broadly global as I think. Maybe they don't work, My

(39:48):
ideas don't play everywhere. I think I forget who it was.
Maybe it was it was Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom made
a great comment the other day where he was asked
about Theocratic Party and he was like, it's a big
tent part, big tent party, but big tent party means
from Joe Manchin to Mom Donnie, meaning all these people

(40:09):
are Democrats. You don't have to We don't all fuck
with each other, fuck and like each other. But like,
there's not a one fit, size fits all solution for
the entire country of Democrats. You Mom Donnie can't run
in West Virginia and win, and Mansion can't run in
New York and win. And that should be a strength

(40:29):
of a party, not a weakness. But as long as
we keep holding our nose and and and saying what
we won't do with each other, we will continue to lose.
But in general, this is a broad coalition of necessity, right,
we need each other. So when you start excising little
pieces off to be like I don't know about this
gay shit, I don't know about this transshit, I don't

(40:51):
know about this black shit, all of a sudden, you
don't have that coalition and you don't have that mandate
to win. You need to bring build unity.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Yes, yes, and it is a mandate. And the thing
is for me was very very frustrating, is like when
people see this and people start calling it out for
what it is, they act like you're the problem for
calling them out for the tactics that they're basically telling
you to your face. And you're like, hey, now this

(41:19):
is going to be a problem, you know, just like
and and and and and like we talked about online
and you know how uh the what is it? The
the uh the police thing where they was like no
police type of.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Thing, defund the.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Right. There was a lot of people, you know, that
was for this, and there was some cities that implemented
this thing. But but something very important that you said,
these things sound good until you have to implement them.
Once you have to implement them, and people have to
actually deal with these things. They have to have compassion,
they have to have they have to be patient, they

(41:59):
have to have understanding. They have to realize you're gonna
be in this shit for the loan haul. Most American
citizens are not designed for that. They're gonna turn around
and be like, bitch, what we had was better, even
though you're trying to make the situation better. They don't
want to be discomforted at all. They don't want to
deal with anything that makes them scare, anything that's different,

(42:21):
anything that's uncomfortable even you know. And so it's one
of those things where This is kind of how it is.
It's very frustrating, you know, I mean for me, because
it's like you're saying all these things, like you say,
if they don't work out, you're not gonna take full responsibility.
Why Because you're not an elected official, So of course
you can say anything you want to quote unquote say
and write your articles and write a book about it

(42:42):
and make money and tour because you were not voted
and there's nobody holding your feet to the fire with
all these ideas. Because I guarantee you, if you were
running for office and you were standing for stuff, people
would be in your ass and then you would have
to to give logical, reasonable explanations to why you say
these things.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, he just wants to pull out whoever is the
Democratic advisors and become the Democratic advisor. And to which
I would say, why isn't he just running for office? Right?
You say we be come, put your come, put some
skin in the game. Go out there with some policies.
Show me you can convince people other than a column

(43:23):
in the New York Times. Because the column in New
York Times is not a vote.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
That doesn't mean you're actually influencing people. You might be
influencing the party because they read the New York Times,
But are you influencing voters? Do voters buy Ezra Clin?
Can Ezra Klein go in front of a stage and
talk to a bunch of people who aren't just white
people that want to buy his book, but actual, like real?
Can he go to South Carolina and carry South Carolina

(43:49):
for Black with black voters and stuff like that in
the Democratic primary. It's just interesting because a lot of
this stuff is just ideas that don't necessarily have to
have any proof behind him. Speaking of which, Marjorie Taylor Green,
this is the last thing. We're already mad, but I'll
go to this last thing because I just want to
get out the way for tonight. Marjorie Taylor Green has

(44:11):
turned over newly. She's asking for obviously the Epstein files
to be released, which Trump has reverse course on and says, yeah,
go ahead, I want them released too. I also need
to we need to get that out there, which who
knows what the fuck that really means, because he tried
everything for months, including the government shut down, to keep
these files from coming out, and he even tried to say,

(44:35):
let's reopen the investigation into just the Democrats whose names
have come up, not me, which and all this stuff
is blatantly transparently like Partizan for him to his benefit,
and it seems that for some reason this time it's
not working. I don't know why it's not working this time.
I truly don't. These motherfucking people that these sickle fans

(44:56):
that support him, I don't know what their deal is
to be Like, No, this one is the one we're
fighting about. But Marjorie Taylor Green, of course, has taken
a stand against him on this particular issue, and only
this issue. This is important. I'm want to put out
some things that people need to know. So she's AOC

(45:17):
went on Twitter and said that the reason Margor Taylor
Green did this is because Donald Trump did not support
her running for like governor or senator or whatever her state,
and she's pissed and so she's making him pay by
defecting the own social media and in real life. Okay,
the other part is, Marjorie Taylor Green isn't such a

(45:39):
red district. She's the result of redistricting over and over,
jerry mandering over and over to where the only person
that can win. Her district is an extremely crazy pants Republicans. Yep.
But all of us have thought for a long time,
this person's a grifter. A lot her Lauren Bowber, a
lot of these Nancy made, so many of these people

(46:00):
are just grifters. They saw Trump, it's the age of
the grift. They hopped on and said, let me do it.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
To this age of the grift.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
And so recently she's now been like the victim. But
the last thing I want to plan for I played
this clip. She has not rescinded her support of Donald Trump.
Like multiple times she's assured like, no, I still support
Donald Trump. I'm not a trader. I just need them
Epstein fouls. Okay, So for before people started welcoming her

(46:28):
into the big tent of forty nine dollar forty for
twenty dollars stakes or whatever, fuck twenty for forty dollars stakes,
understand that this big tent is not She's not come.
She don't want to be in this big tent. She's
not a Democrat. She has not flipped oversize. Okay, So
she was interviewed on CNN about this, I think by

(46:49):
Daniel Risselman.

Speaker 7 (46:50):
You posted on X that President Trump is with his
comments fueling a quote hotbed of threats against you. Obviously,
any threats to your safety or completely unacceptable, but we
have seen these kinds of attacks or criticism from the
President at other people. It's not new, and with respect,

(47:11):
I haven't heard you speak out about it until it
was directed at you.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Dan.

Speaker 8 (47:19):
I think that's fair criticism, and I would like to
say humbly, I'm sorry for taking part in.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
The toxic politics.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
It's very bad for our country and it's been something
I've thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated,
is that we I'm only responsible for myself and my
own words and actions, and I am going, I am committed,
and I've been working on this a lot lately to

(47:50):
put down the knives and politics. I really just want
to see people be kind to one another, and we
need to figure out a new path forward that is
focused on the American people, because as Americans, no matter
what side of the isle we're on, we have far
more in common than we have differences, and we need

(48:10):
to be able to respect each other with our disagreements.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
So now that's a completely changed time for her. This
is the one matter of fact let's listen to this
follow up question, because I actually shout out to this
host of this show who actually did have a good
follow up.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
Just to put a button on this. You regret the
things that you have said and posted in the past.
The Facebook post that was taken down of you in
twenty twenty holding a gun alongside the squad encouraging people
to go on the offense against the socialists, liking a
tweet of somebody calling for the execution of Nancy Pelosi

(48:47):
and former President Obama just examples.

Speaker 8 (48:52):
Well, Dana, as you know and many people know, I
address that back in twenty twenty one, and of course
I never want to cause any harm or anything bad
for anyone, So that that was addressed back then, and
I very much stand by my words I said then
and I stand by my words today. I think America

(49:13):
needs to come together and end all the toxic, dangerous
rhetoric and divide. And I'm leading the way with my
own example, and I hope that President.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
She's like now that I have won my office, I
think America needs to come together.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Nobody believes you. People look at your voting record, You're
going to still vote the same way. So I and
I believe any any of the worlds that are coming
out of your mouth. You only care because it was
a personal attack against you. If he hadn't a personal
attacked you, you'd have had another Trump hat on yelling

(49:52):
and shit at any Democrat speaking like y'all did before. So,
I like, my thing is, I don't believe you, like
like I.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Only believe votes in the first place. Number one. Number
two I I so you like gonna you're gonna vote
with them ninety nine percent of the time. This is
you're not coming over. And I don't know who's fooled
by this, but if you're fool by this, shame on you,
your dumb ass. Shame. I think Senator Bob Raskins, I

(50:23):
think his name. I think that's his name. He gave
a speech and this ship was embarrassing to me? Or
is it Jamie Raskin?

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I hope I'm saying that right.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Let me just say a couple more things, you great
Florida Democrats.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
One of them is we are a big tent. We
must be a huge, vast tent.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I say, this is a party that's got room for
Marjorie Taylor Green if she wants to come over. He
got room for anybody who wants to stand up for
the Constitution and for the bill.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yes, Jamie Raskin, Congressman, he bought this ship.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Is very frustrating when you see things like this because
it's like, not tring funny nobody for your team, or
did you do that off the cuff, because I guarantee
you it's the words in front of the words you
got typed up. Did not have that in it.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Whether they had them in it or not, I don't
give a fuck. Like January sixth happened, she was on
the other side of that shit. People in your party's
lives were threatened. And now because she's flipped over newly
for all the ten two weeks, for ten days a
media blitz that she did, you are already like, come
on over, Marjorie, come sit right next to the AOC

(51:42):
with that AR fifteen you were talking about. Remember, wasn't
she I don't remember she was, but I remember there
was a big thing about Congress people wanted to bring
guns into Congress. Oh, I don't know, but I would
not be surprised if she was one of them. One
after posting about, you know, threats to Nancy Pelosi back
Obama in the squad like, are you out of your

(52:03):
fucking mind?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:04):
What are you doing? It's so weak?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Where's your backbone?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Dog like like not me fun and it's not strategic,
like it's no, this isn't you saying, like, listen, anything
that hurts Trump, I'll take it. You're acting like there's
literally like she a Democrat? Now she said two things, she's.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Not right today?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
What are my colleagues who left.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Also keep the audience's spines. They you can see it.
Hear some boos, a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Yeah, that was like boom, a huge, vast tenth.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I say, this is a party that's got room for
Marjorie Taylor Green if she wants to come over.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You heard the Boosha, No, right, And I don't know
why he thought that was gonna get a standing ovation.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
They looking like that bitch. No, she's like I said,
she's still gonna vote the same, So why she's not
a Democrat?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Dog?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
You know, we got room for anybody who wants to
stand up for the Constitution and for the Bill of Rights. Today,
one of my colleagues who left from South Carolina Trade
Cowdy said to me on the way out. He said,
you're erasking. You're not a bad guy. The problem with
you is you're liberal. I said, You're damn right.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I'm a liberal.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
The heart of that word is liberty. And I'm a
progressive because the heart of that word is progress. But
my favorite thing to call myself today is a conservative
because I want to conserve the land, the air, the water,
the climate, says them the Constitution.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
All right, Chow, he missed the whole point of that
was a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
That was a lot, Jamie Chow. You missed that one up.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Off the cuff, Chastick, which your writers wrote to something brilliant,
and you was like, fuck it, I'm going off the cuff.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I feel like someone that does spoken word wrote that
for him. You see, I'm a libertarian because the heart
of that is liberty. But I'm also a Democrat because
the mock.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
See stick to the script, baby, stick to the script.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
But yes, that's politics too, we get mad. Let's move
into something else.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I wanted to knock those out the way before we
did a show with Mike. Let's see. You know, we
haven't done fucking with black people a lot, mostly because
politics will get mad. Feels like it it's a two
for one.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
See, if I got anything over there that I feel
like discussing with y'all, thankful fucking with black people. I
feel like they were, oh there was something, Yeah, let's do.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
It whoo whoooo with just fucking with them people because
they with us, fucking with them people because they black
with just fucking with them black people were just fucking

(54:57):
with the black fucking.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
I hate to do it to him, but Forrell Williams,
come on down. You might know Forarrell from making music
like Happy and at the Lego movie, Lego Movie and
being a fashion person. Well, he was recently he was
recently talking at some event and he started talking about politics.

(55:39):
I don't know if this audio is gonna be that great,
but I'll try to like clarify if you can't hear.
As we look at.

Speaker 9 (55:44):
What's going on in the current political final I'm just
saying to I want to turn anybody, y'all. I hate
poltiicts it's like despires them. It is it's a it's
a magic trick. That's it's not really there. I don't
believe that he decided so.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
He hates I see when I first saw this, y'all,
I truly was like, oh this AI is getting good real,
But then people kept sharing and they was like, no,
it was at this event this did happen. I was like,
ah shit. Once the brothers started talking about politics both sides,
it's like you're about to say something stupid, aren't you.

Speaker 9 (56:18):
I think when you pick aside, you are only you
know when you are in the supporting divisions, it gets
not a popular point of view.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
But I just want to say that I think about it.

Speaker 9 (56:27):
The wells are drying up and that okay. Now the
diversity's off the table, not equities off the table, not
inclusions off the table.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
So that makes me ask myself, okase, on how do
we survive?

Speaker 7 (56:37):
Well?

Speaker 9 (56:37):
Are there black people here there tonight?

Speaker 7 (56:39):
Yea?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
And in your part do you think for what it
is that you do and who you are?

Speaker 9 (56:45):
Do you think you're the best? Okay? So do you
want the job because you're black, but because you're the best?
Do you want someone to support your startup because you're black,
but because you're the best?

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Right?

Speaker 7 (56:57):
So?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I think now, for me, it's about us having the
best reason and it's just false. It's just straw man, right.
It's the reason that black people get things is they're black,
not because of the best as if discrimination works in
a way where like we're starting at zero in a

(57:19):
world where there is no discrimination, everyone in an office
is there because they're the best at that job, as
opposed to I don't know the hundreds of years that
we have that show the opposite, that show that people
have been placed, have been put outside of opportunities they
should have earned and rightfully would have gotten except for

(57:39):
their skin color, or their gender, or their sexual orientation.
So it proposes that no the workplace of meritocracy. And
what's actually fucking it up is when we say stuff
like we need affirmative action, because what that says is
you're only there because you're black, as opposed to what
it really says is you wouldn't be here if we

(58:00):
had our way with it because you're black. We wouldn't
if in our eyes, when we close our eyes and say,
what's the perfect workplace us at the hiring positions of
this company, picture a completely white workplace, right, and we
do what we can to make sure that that comes
to fruition unless we're forced not to. So listening to

(58:20):
him say that is like this Republican bootstrap type talking
point from for Real, which I don't you know, I
don't know much about his politics, but i'll tell you
in a second. After I finished this clip, Whyle, I'm
surprised that he said it. You should should support these businesses.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Yes, they happen to be Jathan Brown, but.

Speaker 9 (58:36):
It should be based on the pieces that were the best,
not because we are a total shade of a stick couch.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
That's a point of view that I have now that
night that I'm.

Speaker 9 (58:45):
Rested on in the diversity, equity and inclusion ever comes
back to styles cool.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
But in the meantime, I'm gonna focus on.

Speaker 9 (58:52):
Being the best because I can think on that, because
that's what's going to get you the position where you know,
I don't want you to give me anything.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I want you to. I want you to and because
of the best. So it's just like I said this
straw Man, the anti DEI initiatives are not based on
because we just want the best people in here. It
assumes like a level of good faith and people who
are anti DEI that they have not earned. And like

(59:22):
I said, it's a bit surprising because I remember during
George Floyd and during the Black Lives Matter era. He
like he was pushing this shit. You know, I remember
the Virginia Beach mural that was for Black Lives Matter.
He pushed that in Virginia, in his hometown. Let's make

(59:47):
it happen. In a twenty fifteen Grammy Award, he performed
hands Up, Don't Shoot gesture during his performance Are Happy
august An essay for Time magazine, We Deserve a Black Future.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I wonder what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
American Revolution two point zero, he called the protest following
George Floyd murder and American Revolution two point oh. In
a June twenty twenty interview, he started an initiative called
the Black Ambition Initiative to support black and brown entrepreneurs. Well,
he's a fashion magnate. That filled the hole that that

(01:00:27):
that died when Virgil died. That that's someone they needed,
another black ambassador for fashion. They picked him up with
them big ass hats like he was in fucking I'm
gonna get you, sucker. And what I'm saying is that
it sounds like DEI and the Black Lives Matter. It
was good enough for him when it was in fashion,

(01:00:51):
no no pun intended, But now that it's out of fashion.
He's flipping to the Republican talking points of you just
gotta be the best. If you the best, they'll find
it don't matter who you are, as opposed to standing
with his people and being like, nah, this is fucked up.
I see what they're doing and that's that's not cool.
But I'm still in these rooms. I don't got myself

(01:01:12):
in these rooms now. They don't hire me when they
was hiring the black folks. So for all, y'all, that
is not getting opportunities. Y'all just need to be satisfied
with being the best and then they'll make the opportunities
work for you. Because that's what I decided is happened
for me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
That's not how that works at all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah. Anyways, zero two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I'm going to give this one a one hundred because
if you're gonna be out of politics, be out the
way out of it. Because once you start talking and
you start bringing your politics into it, people are gonna
have opinions and people are gonna say things. Some people
don't like it and some people aren't and most of

(01:01:53):
the time you're very neutral. That's why a lot of
people not trying funny, like everybody has their lines. But
that's why a lot of people just let you be
and just enjoy your music and shit like that, because
they don't have any negative connotation attached to you. You're
like a blank slate. And so once you start speaking,
and once you start talking, now, now you're gonna start
hearing the rumblings. So next time you come out with
an album and next time you have a project, people

(01:02:15):
come but like, ain't you that nigga? You know type
of things. So so you stepped into something, and the
thing is, are you ready for the consequences of that?
You know? Because now in this environment, because you talk
of the environment, the environment that we're in, some of
the people that you associate with have picked aside and
shit like that. They might not come out publicly, they

(01:02:37):
might not voice. We don't know what they're doing. But
people are out there that are like fuck Donald Trump.
And so when you start talking like this devil like, well,
I don't know if I want to work with you anymore,
like like like and shit like that, and all of
a sudden, this the best might shift and change because
people move in various different ways, and sometimes people do
shit and they won't even tell you why you know,

(01:02:58):
once you get to a certain level, shit just stop drop.
People just stop communicating all types of shit, and so
it's just one of them things. Well, okay, you won't
do this. What do you You stepped into something, You're
gonna have to stand behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
What did you scored?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
One hundred?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
One hundred?

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Yeah, I give it. I give it one hundred as well,
mostly because I mean this dude I wrote for drape
though Maniacs. Yes, he was one of the people behind that.
Mm hm. Like maybe and maybe look, maybe it's out
of context, or maybe he didn't explain it right, but
maybe that's I don't know how the same guy who
does that can say what he said in a room

(01:03:36):
full of black folks, like like those ideas have never
crossed black people's minds, Like if you want to talk
to somebody, lecture somebody, that's more of a thing to
tell white folks, Like, hey, man, do you want to
be in a room because you're white or because you're
the best, Because with the looking through the animals of history,
y'all been in the rooms because y'all white and being

(01:03:58):
keep excluding the best because if the best is black, brown,
lgbt Q, try well, like whatever you in making sure
they can't get in that room. So so these rooms
that were supposed to represent the best historically have not.
And if you don't include that context in your conversation
in that moment, then all you're all it does is
sound like you're telling us to pull our pants up,

(01:04:21):
bootstrap it. Uh, stop worrying about racism like it's not real.
Just that you'll be fine because look at me, I
made it, and if then it is right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
And it's also you know, one of those things. Listening
to them talk, you're going, like you said, you're you're
erasing racism. You're you're also acting like certain things like
don't matter don't exist in this argument. Like you say,
when you make these statements, you need to kind of

(01:04:54):
be as detailed as posies.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, you're starting from a color block. You're starting from
an assumption of good faith. And the arguments of the
people who say the d I shit is over with
because we should have never been hiring people only because
they're black. That is what you're saying. That meant, and
that is what you're saying happened, And you're saying, well,
look that's good. We should be in the room because

(01:05:17):
we're the best, okay, But that's not why they started
d I. The equity and inclusion is about fairness. What
they are admitting is it was not fair and when
they take it out, they aren't replacing it with fairness. Nope,
they're telling you that was the that was the effort

(01:05:37):
to make it fair. What they're telling you is we're
gonna stop being fair.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
We're gonna stop and honestly, you know what, man U.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Drakars, Because honestly, equality isn't everyone that's black needing to
be the fucking best.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Sometimes that's not motherfucking equality.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
That's not okay.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Like, sometimes we want to be mediocre too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I'm not talking about we want to be mediocre. I'm
just talking about life. Life has averages. Everybody in the
room can't be the motherfucking best out of goddamn time.
And often the people that get to be in a
room who aren't the best are never fucking black, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Right? Like, so, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
What is this world you're painting where there's a bunch
of mediocre black folks? That is what white folks say
about us, is that all that those people just got
hired because they're black. You know, that's Clarence Thomas belief system.
I'm you know, it's and look, maybe, like I said,
in the context of the whole thing, maybe it's not
as bad, but I I just think that's a bad look.

(01:06:33):
And I don't you know that's it's such a tone
death statement. I hope that it was just inarticulate, because
that's the best I got for it, because I can't
agree with that on his face and I and it's
one of the fucking things about this It's one of
the worst things about this whole content economy we have.

(01:06:56):
People are so happy to be in proximity with somebody
with rich, fame and money. There's not a follow up question,
there's not a counterpoint. There isn't like even and a
lot of people will think of it as adversarial. I'm saying, like,
if Pharrell was a guest on our podcast and he
said that I have follow ups and counterpoints, not to

(01:07:16):
detegrade him, but here's the opportunity to clarify, because they're
gonna eat your ass up when this shit come out,
and I'm doing this for you rather than me putting
out this Man and a half clip from this and
being like, go get them, y'all. I would be like, hey,
hold up, so what are you saying about this situation?
In that scenario, are you saying these places are fair?
And because because a clarification might lead to him being like, no,

(01:07:38):
I'm not. I'm saying it's unfair. It's not fair, it's
fucked up, and you're gonna have to be the best
as the only recourse we have. And in that case,
people will be like, I hear you. I don't necessarily agree,
but I hear what you're saying. This is just the reality.
Because he said, we're talking about how we're gonna survive, right,
And they don't really play the question before they give

(01:07:59):
his answer, so that the question could have been one
of like, you know, in a world without DI, what
do we do or whatever? But it's like I said,
I you know what, I've talked myself down. I'm gonna
go back to seventy five. I'm not gonna give it
one hundred because those things do matter, and maybe there's
a world where those we see that and we go, Okay,
this answer is not crazy. But seeing this in the

(01:08:23):
one minute and thirty second context of the online clip
it's infuriating because it's full of Republican bootstrapped talking points,
and especially when you say I hate politics and both
sides are bad. You know, no, I'm talking to myself.
Back up with your cars, because it started with I
hate politics and both sides are basically the same and bad.
That's just fucking stupid. I'm sorry. I don't care that

(01:08:45):
he's did Drake Domaniacs. I'm not beholden to anybody. That's
just wrong. That's not smart. You're smarter than that. Or
if not, you're so detached from reality that you would
say Kamala Harris, Donald Trump the same. That's not that's
crazy talk. And I think that's such a cop out.
It's a low information cop out because you never get specific.

(01:09:07):
This is why I wish I was the kind of
person that could be on that stage to be like, Okay,
let's talk what policies are the same. Let's talk about it.
Like you said that politics is all bullshit. Okay, let's
talk about some specific things. Mister, you got you the expert, now,
so which ones are the same for you? What's so like?
Let's talk about what happened after George Floyd. You called

(01:09:29):
American Revolution two point Oh what did that mean? Then?
Since they both the same, it's all the same, So
what's going on? Explain it to me anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Yeah, I know. Also, it's one of those points where
when you look and you go they're both the same.
But then you turn around and you talk about the
state of the world that it is now and that
you know we need to quote unquote be the best.
Why is it like that because of politics? Not trying funny,
because who people voted for and who is in office.

(01:10:00):
Why you are saying we're trying to survive now. And
so when people make that dumb ass argument, I'm like,
you want need to quote unquote be different, You wanting
to stand out, you wanting to be upstract, you wanting
to not follow the crowd and not be like everybody
else and not quote unquote fall for the trick bag
of this thing in this system that we have. You

(01:10:22):
wanting to opt out, but the shit impacts you because
terrorists and all that shit. You're rich, but you are
still going to be impacted by the shit that happens
based off these politics that you tell me. It's the same.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
My phone alerts all day have just been ice at
Harris Teter ice at this part ice at. That's politics, man,
That ain't both sides. That's terrorism to my community and
to the community's adjacent Tom I don't know what the

(01:10:55):
fuck this nigga talking about that. That's the more I
think about it. The morm like that wasn't insane thing
to say, I and and and shame on the black
folks that even participated in that call and response with
the Bears, Well, you're fucking dumb. Do you not hear
what he's saying that. What's the difference between him saying
that ship and Charlie Kirk saying that shit to your

(01:11:18):
dumb ass. The reason that you're not in this room
is because you're not the best. Only we have the
best here and they happen to all be white all
the time. And that's what that's why we had to
stop d e I because too many of you blacks
were getting in here. And if you see a black
in a room, they don't deserve to be that. Peter
Haseff did that with the military, Like, what are we
talking about for real? Suit anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah, And my thing is hearing it in his own
in this entire context still might not change my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
I just there's no context you could take me out
of and I would sound like that unless I was
doing an ironic impression of a coon.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yeah, and you saw your cars from me and you
poking fun. Yes, I could see that your cards for me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
That was terrible, for real, do better, bro, That's that's
there's no excuse for that bullshit, especially as somebody who
has literally gotten positions and advocated for black lives and
all this ship. Now it makes me Now, it makes
me wonder if that was just a hustle. Now, it
makes me wonder if you were the whole time you
was like, ooh, this black Lives matter shit is hot.

(01:12:22):
I'm finn to run with this to get me to
get on at this at this company, get this movie made,
get this fashion line put out. But do I believe it? Nah,
I'm not really political like that. I don't believe in
all that ship for real. But it's a good hustle.
That's sad. If that's the truth. I hope it's not
the same.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
I hope it's not all right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
In this with Uh yeah, I guess we'll do some
guests the race. Let's you know, we're not We're not
always one hundred percent work for real, It's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Oh yeah, nobody.

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
That's the race, that's the right, that's the right, that's
the right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Yeah. And like you said, nobody's woke one hundred percent
of the time, you know. And the thing is, I
could see and that's till. I mean, I see somebody
young and dumb seeing some bullshit like that because they
ain't live life long enough tax experienced stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
But he's a vampire. He's four hundred and seventy three
years old. He just looked young, he doesn't it? All right? Uh,
let's do this. Florida sisters allegedly caught stealing by covering
shopping carts with Target bags. What Two Florida women sisters

(01:13:53):
were recently arrested after a shopping trip to a big
box retailer ended in theft and a belated Mayle copa
that could not keep them out of jail. Listen, this
is I'm they with the fight, They with the struggle.
I'm with him. This is what I'm gonna do tomorrow.
I'm stealing from Target. Okay, we not just boycotty.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
You know you're gonna be by yourself and I ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
I'm not you are You're not welcome doing coon like
for real, you ain't coming, and I know you won't
give me out of jail because you don't support Black
lives matter.

Speaker 7 (01:14:16):
D I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
You are coon and you want the audience to know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Go ahead for real, Chad, I'll give you my tap
dancing shoes. Doo do do, dude, cause nigga, you on
your own.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
F Nannie Camel and Halla come el standing accuses of
one count each of grand theft and conspiracy to commit
grand theft. Deputy's a ride at the Target on November
fourth in a small town. Who gets where? It's at
Davenport Grand View Parkway and Davenport, Florida. Okay, it's it's
clus to Orlando.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
The sisters were already in custody at the Lost Prevention
office UH when officers arrived just for nine pm. The
store said that the finish walked in around seven thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
UH.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
They said he witnessed Halla and f Nani to make
rapid selections throughout the store, place them in the one
or two one of two car Target shopping cars they
both had in their possessions at the time of the incident.
The employee stated he witnessed Holler in f ninety attempt
to conceal some of the items in the shopping cart
by taking Target shopping shopping bags, splitting them up, and

(01:15:18):
laying them on top of the items they placed in
the cart. The employee described an attempt by both the
finished to conceal two shopping cars full of unpaid Target
merchandise with the shopping bags walking to the front entest
of the store, and then just four eight thirty they
were seen on surveillance footage walking past at all final
points of sale and continue towards the front interest doors
would concealed shopping cars. Then the employee himself is seen

(01:15:42):
in the video stopping assistants and escorting them to lost prevention.
They said they are ledged to steal two four hundred
and eighty seven dollars and seventy cents worth of items
before attacks.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Now that's federal right there.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Once you get anything like fifty dollar federal.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Now, I wonder how they calculate that if they literally
go to the like check out and they be like, bleep, bleep, bleep, Oh,
there's a federal crime. Now girl, clip oh, that's federal. Too,
you going to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Jail, yep, some about somebody mad for that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
After being ready to Miranda writes, they both admitted to
take an item from Target and decided to steal the
items while in the store and not before, so not premeditated.
As if that helps. They were arrested entertained in jail. So, Karen,
guess the race of these sisters, uh holler Kamel and
off Nanni Comel.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
I want to say they sound Jewish Jewish?

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Okay, let's check the chat room. I mean so okay Arabian? Okay, yes, okay,
all right, see what the chat room says, saying in
words San Sarah and Camo Karen, a rabs a rab money,
steal the air a rabs get it an a rab
money hennah. I don't know what hennah means. The correct

(01:17:04):
answer is, let's see saying falling out of the basket.
Oh wow, y'all, y'all don't get a lot of chances
to guess this. I guess anyway. The correct answer is,
I'm gonna give it to you, Karen. I don't I
don't know, I say, Eric, but I don't know. I
would have accepted white as well, for the record.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yeah, let's say, sound like New Year's Lame Street.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Right, Yeah, here's that picture, so yeah, I would have
accepted that as well. But they look white ish or
arabit ish, brownish, I don't know. But man, that's like,
that's a crazy reason go to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
But I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
You know, the price the steaks is high unless you
get them foras for forty dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
The rib.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
The terror rollbacks ain't kicked in just yet. All right,
let's do another.

Speaker 7 (01:18:09):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Enraged girlfriend chucked a knife at a man's head over
a five dollars mobile payment to her female friend. Oh
Danyelle Banks, thirty four, remains in jail on seventy five
thousand dollars bond at the police charger with aggravated battery
and resisting arrest. The police said that she was going

(01:18:32):
through her boyfriend's phone on Thursday when she noticed that
he used a mobile app to make a five dollar
payment to a female friend. She became upset and confronted
her boyfriend about it. According to the arrest report, her
anger escalated and she called her boyfriend derogatory names. She
then allegedly further escalated to violence when she struck Hi
multiple times in the mouth while grabbing a shirt, which

(01:18:53):
police say was torn and stayed with blood. Police say
she allegedly retreated a knife from the kitchen and threw
it overhand at her boyfriend's head, cutting him in the face.
She then reportedly ran out of the home and took
off in her car. Her boyfriend called now one one
report that Banks had stabbed him in the face and
then left the scene. The US Border Patrol agent started
following her in an unmarked car till she stopped the

(01:19:15):
apartment a couple blocks away. By that time, according to reports,
the sheriff debuties were on the scene and spoted her Banks.
When Banks saw the debuties were on her tail, she
attempted to hide by ducking down inside the vehicle. Oh
nothing feels stupider than that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Where you going, baby, You're still in the vehicle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
She was detained. While she was being questioned by police,
she claimed she threw a plate into the sink, and
a shard of the broken plate must have been what
cut her boyfriend. She soon invoked the right to remain silent.
Her boyfriend declined to provide a written statement. It did
not want debuties to enter the home to get the
night because the property did not belong to him. He
was treated at the scene by first responders. Police said
that he contacted his brother to pick him up, and

(01:19:52):
he packed up his belongings and left. Banks was charged
with aggravated battery, resisting arrest without violence, and misdemeanor. She
was booked on what she is being held on seventy
five thousand dollars bailt All right, Karen, guess the race
of Danielle Banks.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
This is that black struggle love. And I think it's
one of them things where baby boy, yeah, like like
this is you know, you know, because this is from
her perspective, so it sounds like they don't need to
be together no more. And you know, because it sounded
like he packed his shit up and left, which means
he was probably thinking about leaving anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
She looked at his phone and said, who the fuck
is Venmo? And why is she texting you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Right, it could have been five dollars for lunch anything,
but it's five dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
You got a lot of notifications from this bitch. Right,
I ain't never met Venmo. Daddy couldn't give her seventy
five thousand dollars Black big black banks black. They will
be at big Mama's house together on Thanksgiving. Oh ho,
you crazy black? I hate you. Jody Black black called
tyrone instead of police cash apt black. The correct answer

(01:20:57):
is and all of you said black and all of
your missed it. She's white, you racist sons of bitches.
Forrell was right about y'all, y'all are not the best?

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
That black ass name seventy five thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
That's her? I mean, is that not a picture of
a not? Does that a black woman?

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
To you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Yeah? Accepted racist? I am letting one, letting letting the
color of skin. Pharrell had a point, you know, I
take it back zero for for real. All right, let's
go to the bonus round.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
That a trick.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
That black ass name Karen is one and one.

Speaker 7 (01:21:44):
It's time to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Guess the race.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
It's time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
It's time to grace. It's time to guess the race.
All right, Karen's one and one wearing the bonus round.
Everything is worth triple the points. Let's see. Let's go
with this one. A man allegedly fired into a house
regarding dispute over repair he was paid for but never started.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Oh so you ain't pay him like or whatever, you're
never paying full.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
A Tennessee man is behind bars over a shooting link
to an argument of a mechanic work and money. Tavares
Chikhs thirty seven, stands accused of one count each of
attempted murder in the second degree, employing a firearm during
the dangerous felony, and reckless endangerment with a deadly weapon.
According to the Memphis Police Department, the underlying incident happened

(01:22:41):
on September twenty first, when shots rang out of the house.
A man was injured in the flurry of bullets. Police
arrived at the residents just after noon that day and
quickly began to search for a suspect. The victim was
taken to the hospital in non critical condition at the time.
As it turned out, the injured man was a retired
ninety one year old former police officer shot up a
ninety one year old former police Oh man ninety one,

(01:23:04):
You going to jail? Ja?

Speaker 9 (01:23:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
You with that?

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Man? Don'e lived a life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
But the victim was apparently not the intended target, or
at least not the loan intended target. The shooting allegedly
stemmed from a long running dispute over her car repair
that was paid for but never actually performed. John Allen,
the man who was shot in the hand, retired from
the Members Police Department sixteen years ago. The station he
told the police the TV station that it was his girlfriend.

(01:23:29):
In the extended argument with the defendant, the woman said
she paid she's twelve hundred dollars to fix her Dods
challenger several months prior, but that the work never even began,
so the woman demanded her money back, and over time
the argument escalated, Well what kind of customer service is
that you didn't do the work and you won't give
it even refund and you shoot at me. The defendant

(01:23:52):
apparently showed up at the home, knocked on the door
and said I got your money. When the woman opened
the door, he was already positioned at the curb alone
with two other individuals. The trio began shooting mope rounds
into the residents.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
What what kind of so you show up at my house?

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Okay? Why is that the what? Why is that the
part that bothered you the most? Because I was going
with the who the fuck are the two other people
willing to murder somebody over the back? Back the back
the backup killers over a homeboys disput dis few over
twelve hundred dollars for his job, but job he didn't do.

(01:24:34):
Who are these people? You can't call on me and
be like, Rod, we need to kill some people. And
I'm like, what happened? Okay? So I was supposed to
fix the carburetor, but I didn't, and that that bitch
got a little too mouthed, and so it's time for murder.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Chack dude, Rod, yet that you don't quit playing on
my phone.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
I was in the bedroom. I came up to the front.
By the time I got up to the front of
bullet ricochet through the wall and hit me in the hands.
At the retired police officer, he said, several bullets came
in through the front window, which is still covered up
with plywood. The house was hit roughly a dozen times
by various fire guns and by at the time was
he stormtroopers. They didn't kill nobody. At the time of
the shooting, six people were inside the coldon a two

(01:25:15):
year old boy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
Oh, you could have hit anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Almost got me, the ninety one year old added. The
trio is believed that Fled and the Silver Nissans to
dance so far Sheikhs who was arrested on Wednesday, is
the only person charged. Well, they gonna catch the other two.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Yeah, it is because they proud of your friends chat.
All you gotta do is check the phones.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
He's being held in jail on one hundred and fifty seven,
five hundred dollars bond, but he said he could fix
up some police cars and maybe do some work for
him and they'll let him out. Karen guests the race
of mister Tavar Sheikhs child Black.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
If you turn around and tell me it's a white Tavares,
I'm I'm potty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Oval that in word smoked, the challenge of money in
words and their nissans a shooting over a scat pack
ish dodge challengers. She's been waiting years for that mckaie
to put spinners on her car. Black spinners in where
name sounds like he plays cornerback in the SEC Come on,

(01:26:14):
pay now, work later.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Black.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
The trio all held guns sideways. Black. Yeah, they were
shooting like stormtroopers. Black Tavars in word. When did Rod
stop saying in word? Because we're on YouTube and they
we they have fucking rules and ship and they'll demonetize
our ship if we don't say it. If we say it,
So that's what it is, Miss Smart, all right, the

(01:26:38):
correct answer is black. You guys all got it right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Yeah, it's still in my vocabulary and not Miss Smart.
I'm not gonna change my language.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Yeah, it's you know, it's fine. It's I think, especially
during Guess the Race where y'all are just putting out
slurs basically sometimes it don't pass the YouTube standards and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Practice like y'all have, y'all have maxed it out, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
It's like, okay, so we can't make money off of
this anymore. All right, y'all. That was it for Guess
the Race. Let's wrap it up with some sword ratchiness
and we'll see you guys tomorrow at five pm, I
believe with Mike Caplan. All right, chilling standoff ends after

(01:27:54):
pepper balls used on screaming man with two Semari swords,
then it's Leonardo Ninja turtles on two swords, two sorts.
November eleven, deputies spointed towards disturbance on Mister Creek Lane,
where college reported a man who was on the hillside
screaming and acting irrationally. They pulled up on Jose Franco Nunyaz,

(01:28:16):
a fifty six year old local residence known to authorities
from previous incidents. Initially reported to be armed with a rifle,
he was instead found with two samurai style swords. He
allegedly threatened the victim residing in the trailer on his property,
smashing two vehicle windows with the sword. The situation escalated
when Nunyas retreated to his residence, where he reportedly smashed
his own window with a golf club and threatened to

(01:28:37):
blow up deputies, claiming he had a gun. Jesus, he
was having a whole episode. Despite repeating commands, he refused
to cooperate. Swatt was en route detective security search warrant
for his arrest. The standoff ended when deputies used pepper balls,
leaning towards surrender without fellow without further incident. He was
booked in the jail on multiple charges, including first three burglary,

(01:28:59):
second agrill, harassment with threats to kill, second degree malicious mischief,
and third degree theft. Why did this man have two swords?

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Great question?

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
What are we doing? Why are we just selling these
to everybody? We should have a registry, all right, y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Thanks for listening. We'll be back tomorrow, and don't forget.
The sell starts shit forty eight minutes Patreon and on
our website.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
At midnight, so by the time most people hear this tomorrow,
the sale will be on and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
The Lincoln's in the show notes. All right, y'all, until
next time, I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I love you too.

Speaker 8 (01:29:34):
Wo
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