25W: Eddie's Underwhelming Gift to Bobby + WWE HoF Jeff Jarrett In Studio + Revisiting Our Hot Takes

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:03):
Podcast called twenty five Wists stuck in fun and they
whist So, yeah, it's too bad, but what did you expect.
It's a podcast called twenty five Whistles.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Twenty wine Whistles and everybody watching on the podcast, Eddie
got me a hat for Christmas that lights up and
it says twenty five whistles.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
I mean you can program to say whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's like a billboard, electric billboard. Yeah, is it bright enough?
Can you see it?

Speaker 5 (01:34):
See it?

Speaker 6 (01:35):
The middle the I in the S gets a little lost,
like electrical hazard.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I got it on TikTok Shop. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Was it Chiefs the Holic thing?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Awesome?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
So Chiefs the Holics gout to rob the bank.

Speaker 7 (01:48):
The banks, the Chief the guy that dresses a wolf. Yeah,
and he robbed all the banks and sat front Road
every Chiefs game.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So backstory me on in the listeners on who Chiefs
the Holic is, and then talk about that show.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
He's a super man, a Chief superfan that went to
every single game. And when you talk to people that
go to Chiefs games. Everyone knows him. He's very sociable.
He goes to every tailgate. He's got front road to
every single game. Well, what happened was he just kind
of he was really big on Twitter and like social media.
All of a sudden, he goes radio silent. So everyone

(02:22):
at the games, all his friends, his fans, everything is
just like, what's happening. He tweets like ten times a
day and there's been nothing. Well, turns out he was
robbing a bank and he got and he had robbed many, right,
So it turns out that he had robbed out robbed
a bunch of banks and that's how he was funding his,
you know, his like lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So when they actually because again I knew the broad strokes,
so they didn't know he had robbed many until they
wondered why he wasn't responsive this one time, they found
the robbed one bank and from that one bank, if
I'm right, didn't they like place the banks at all
away games like he would like rob as he was
going to the away games.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
Every away game that's on the way, he would rob
a bank's dedication.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
He was even in Nashville. He robbed a bank here.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, so where's he now? Well, you don't want to say,
they don't spoil it. I don't want to say, because
I'm gonna watch it, so don't spoil it.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
And the reason I don't want to say is because
I had forgotten how this whole thing ended. I probably
knew at some point by reading the news, but I'd
forgotten and it helped me enjoy the documentary a lot.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
I love better.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I will watch it then it's on Prime.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
It's on Prime.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
It's called Chiefs a Holic, Chiefs the Halic.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
But dude, what's amazing about this documentary is the footage.
So the documentary starts when he gets out of jail,
like so he gets arrested, and whoever made this documentary
was so smart to move so quickly on it that
the first footage of him is when he walks out
of jail, when he's out on bail, and the documentary
starts and they have footage of everything, him watching the

(03:53):
Super Bowl from a hotel room with an ankle bracelet on.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
All of it.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Man, I'm so in I want to leave right now
and go and watch that because I knew that was
so muched in the story. I didn't know there was
a documentary on it already. Dude, you guys would love
Would you hang out with a guy the whole bank
Robin thing?

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
And I wouldn't either, because I've seen stuff about him.
He's annoying, his crap and he gets on like the
message boards on Fight with like other hardcore fans. I
don't know if this is in the documentary, but he
would like get into it with like the guy from
the Jets, what's his name? Like all the all the
teams like have one of those super fans. Yeah, and
there was like this rivalry between them, and there would

(04:27):
be rivalries between the teams and like a couple of
the super fans that were trying to be like the
main super fan. I'm in chiefs a hall like the
what do you give it?

Speaker 7 (04:35):
What are you's hal like? Man, I give a four
point five wolf costume?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Salad? Oh wolf wolf wolf?

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Wolf?

Speaker 4 (04:44):
H it's a wolf, right, he's a wolf. Yeah, I
don't know what Kevin's correcting me when I hear wolf and.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Then you said wolf like a dog wolf wolf?

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Wolf?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, no, wolf, I don't know, dude, wolf. Okay, love
it I want to start with that. I want to
go to this.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think Caul Cookin is a bad person. And this
is not based on his political beliefs, because I don't
think anybody's a bad person based on their political beliefs,
even if I disagree with them. I think call Cook's
a bad person based on his life. He's on a
lot of shady things the whole in word, he just
the other wrestlers, by the way, Jeff Jared's coming up,
and I think all Coed's a bad person, and I

(05:23):
have thought that for a while. This story that I
saw on TikTok about him, I want to play it.
It's one minute long. The person who put the video
up is shady Underscore Spidey. Here we go hit it.

Speaker 8 (05:38):
Imagine you meeting your childhood hero and you give him
a four thousand dollars gift and he turns around and
signs it and then puts it up for auction for
two thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
More than what it's forced.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Well, you don't have to imagine it, because that's what
happened to this guy who is a.

Speaker 9 (05:52):
Very reputable person in the Facebook Wrestling Belts collecting group
and for him to post it.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
That means it must be true.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
And if you notice here.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Something that just struck a chord with me is someone.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Who lives paycheck to paycheck.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
Gives a gift work four thousand to Cogan the Holster
then signs and lists of herself to six thousand.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Oh my god, that's so scummy.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's so scummy.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
That's just that's in so many ways, Hulk Hogan is.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's doing very well for himself.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I can tell you.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
I've seen his his shop not far from where I live.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
He's doing he's doing just fine.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
For him to put this piece of memorabilia up that
somebody gave.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
To them, it's roll. I was blown away, except I
really wasn't that blown away based on other things that
I've even heard that I won't mention here on the air.
I remember also Haul Cocon had sex with his friend's wife.
Yeah that's funny, really on camera. There's a tape right now, Yeah,
tape love fung, Yeah, Bobby loves fine.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh, so here's the thing. You got a superfan that
probably saved up a lot to go meet his hero
and give him a gift, and then whul Cogin just
let's say he just sold it. He just immediately, even
if he wants to hold it for a couple of years,
even that's better. Yeah, you sell it. It's like Eddie

(07:15):
gave me this great hat.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
I see that on e and be so pissed and
maybe two years not so much.

Speaker 10 (07:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
One time, when I put a book out, I think,
in my second book.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
No no, we're not talking about we're not talking about this.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
And it wasn't like this grand gesture, but I was like,
I'll give it all my friend's books, enter a little
note how important they were to me in the process
and in general. And then somebody sends me a picture
of the book that I gave Eddie at a thrift store.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Now she called in on the radio show, but.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I got the pictures though, oh yeah yeah. So it's
like Eddie, dude, your best friend, and she found it
like a thrift store. And it was like, I think
this was a book that you must have given Eddie. Yeah,
it is a person, it's a true story. And the
first thing I did was text my wife like did
you get rid of my book? And she said, I
don't know what you're talking about. And I told bones

(08:03):
I promised I did not sell that book.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I didn't do anything with it.

Speaker 7 (08:07):
But turns out my wife did grab a bunch of
books and took it to like Goodwill or whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
And I guess mine was just in a bunch of
random books. And I was gonna say it felt note
I have a picture of it, Eddie dude bade. Yeah,
somebody found it at the Dollar Tree.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Did you guys have Abilities Unlimited.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Where you grew up?

Speaker 5 (08:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, what was that? Yeah? I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It was U with the version of a press books
good Will?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, okay, it was.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
We had that instead of good Will, and there's probably
good Will Little Rock, but we had Abilities Unlimited. And
what it was there were a lot of the kids
that special needs worked there, so that's why it was
Abilities Unlimited. But that was where you donated, like and
so I was gonna say I found a book of
Abilities Unlimited, but I should good Will was the real
thing to say, Yeah, like.

Speaker 11 (08:52):
None of us would have got it, yeah, yeah, read maybe.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, No, it had that argatsall, I've never seen one,
and you're from like forty five minutes from me.

Speaker 12 (09:00):
I know.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh, let's go to story number three. Yeah, we already
had that Eddie letter chiefs a Hall like I wanted
to do Houlko again, read we don't know the story,
and read goes, hey, guys, I got a good story
to tell.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
It's a very unfortunate story. Actually it happened just about
an hour ago before we were filming. What yeah, yeah,
is this front air or is it? Are you gonna
tell us? And it's gonna be sad and no?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I told Kevin. Kevin was like, dude, you need to
share that. Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
So I was like, Okay, I don't really want to
share it, but all right whatever. So we're, you know,
we're getting ready to record, and I'm like, man, I
need to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
So I go to the bathroom.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
There's a man in front of me that goes right
in front of me into the bathroom. We're at the
iHeart Building, so they're nice bathrooms.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
We go in.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Man number one goes in one stall. I go in
the other, sit down, start to do my business.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I can.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
I can see he's right next to me. It's dead silent,
he's not making any noise. He clearly hears me, you know,
do my business. He knows I went, and so I'm like,
all right, I'm gonna finish up, do a little courtesy flush,
you know, for everybody in there, turn around and.

Speaker 11 (10:06):
Press the button, and it's just clank, clank.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
I was like, oh no, And I look and there's
wires coming out.

Speaker 10 (10:11):
There's a bag of tools that I clearly did not
see at all, literally up toilet. So this dude next
to me, this dude next to me clearly knows I
just had, you know, a private time in there.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
You didn't wear.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
The tools are like kind of back behind the toilet.
Like I'm just I'm I'm lasered in I go in there,
I turn around. I'm like, I'm gonna let this happen.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I'm not thinking.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
So I hear that clink and I'm like, oh my god,
what do I do. This guy knows I just went
to the bathroom. Do I get up and clearly leave
without flushing he knows that, or do I wait for
him to get up finish his business. And he's sitting
there and I don't even I think this dude's just
playing on his phone. I don't know what he's doing.
But five minutes goes by and I'm like, okay, I
just gotta I just got to make a make a

(11:01):
run for it, because like if I wait any longer,
like maintenance dude is.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Gonna come back and get his tools pissed.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
And so I, you know, I did, did the good thing,
and you know, covered everything up with toilet paper, you know,
the best top. Yeah, the best I could.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
To put the dirt over it. But he was a
toilet paper Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
I got up and just awkwardly walked out, even though
I know that guy was like, man, I do didn't flush,
that's weird and wash my hands and then Casey.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, so you shared the story in the green room.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
And then I had to go take a leak at
some point, so I'm like, all right, let me, I'll
go like scope out the situation. So then I went
to the urinal and uh, you know, everything smelled okay
in there, but I was leaking. And then all of
a sudden, I hear someone behind me just whistling, and
it was the handyman and he goes into the bathroom
that read.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Just annihilate for the first time. He must he must
have got tools. It was like super casual.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
He was just going in there, and you just I'm
like sitting there at the urinal and I just hear this.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You heard him see acknowledge and get pissed.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
It, And I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I would have thought somebody saw it ended it anyway,
that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, I think that's what he thought.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, I would have. I would have thought that. Yeah,
like they saw the tools and they still took it
down and hair I felt so bad. I felt so bad.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
It's just like one of those deep breaths. So you're
just like, man, I just.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (12:26):
And then there's a layer to it where Kate I
was coming in this case, I know anything happened before.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I was trying to keep it cool and it came
out and I.

Speaker 13 (12:32):
Went in and I'm at the urinal and I hear
a door slam and I'm like, dang, somebody's really gotta
go or something. So restarted telling me the story was like,
were you in there to and that guy Sam, He's like,
I think it was a maintenance guy pissed off and rightfully.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
So you didn't do anything with any malicious.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, yeah, he desecrated the whole would have annoyed. There
are tools there was taking apart and dude like he's
like the nicest, kindest guy.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Of all of us, just a mountain.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
All right, man, Eddie, how do you feel about going
to the Chargers?

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Huh?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Zeke going to the Chargers having good luck? I mean
good luck.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
What are the gonna do with him? Is he gonna
play like just in case?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (13:18):
Because is it Dobbins or Edwards? One of them is hurt?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I think Dobbins got banged.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
Kim backup thing they said, you know, I think Jerry
Jones said that we're gonna give him a chance to
maybe join a team that can play in the playoffs
or something like that. So they let him go, which
I thought was a lie. And like, okay, yeah, right,
like the Eagles are gonna pick him up.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Okay, but yeah he's going to Hey.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
He's going to the playoffs. Go right, Zee, you did it, dude,
But I mean, what's he gonna do? I'm not worried
about it.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, you shouldn't be worried. I wonder how it made
you feel, though, But I guess the fact that he
already left once for a team doesn't make it so weird.
Had you been a cowboy forever? Yeah, and then he
goes and does this, it's weird to see him another uniform,
like Emmitt Smith as an Arizona Cardinal. It's still strange.
Hakeem Olajuwan as a Toronto Raptor is still odd. But
Zeke did leave. But it is kind of cool that

(14:07):
you can just go and jump on a playoff team
for him, that's pretty cool. It's like Cowboys over, we suck,
but hop on this team.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
What's his name, Teddy Bridgewater just did that for the Lions.
He's just going to get a ring.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And he wasn't even playing. Like he coached high school,
won a state championship first year coaching the high school team,
and then went back and is now the backup in Detroit, Wait.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Bridgewater got out of the league for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
He coached high school fotball, like technically retired. He won
the state championship in Florida.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I did not know that.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
That's crazy.

Speaker 11 (14:34):
Back with the Lions.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, yeah, he signed on.

Speaker 11 (14:36):
I have not seen that.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Amazing a couple of weeks ago or something like that. Yeah,
that's the life, never giving up.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
They say he's one of the smartest players in the NFL,
and yeah, obviously he's not starting. And they think that
he's smart enough to win emergency situations. He could come
in and be a good backup, a dependable backup.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, but you should watch some of the videos. I'm
talking about hig School, FOTBA and how he tough loved them,
gets tough love he because he grew up I think
in a similar area and that's why he was there coaching,
and he was like when we got in trouble and
he talked about how he would grab the face. You
have to watch the clip, but he's he went hard

(15:17):
on those kids and they want he goes because these
kids are from a place where it's hard all the time,
because it's not like he's coaching at a rich school.
And he's like they some of them don't have moms,
some of them they don't even know their dads, and
the only way you can get to them is hard,
and he go, he goes, and I have to go
hard because they had to go hard on me. And
at first you're going when they just show some of

(15:37):
the clips of him going at some of the kids,
you're like, dang, remember Trent Dilforth thing. Yeah that was
at a rich school. Yeah, that was a rich kids. Yeah,
and it was like, dang, that's hardcore, dude. But he
sets it up and he tells why. He goes, a
lot of these kids don't have parents, and the only
way to get to them is this, and he goes,
when I go circle up and they circle up, they
know it's about to be real bad because he just
I mean gets in there a one, say championship. Where

(16:02):
was this like in Florida. Somewhere in Florida. Yeah, yeah,
I wish I was. I'm not prepared, but I did
keep up with.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
It the whole That's that's cool. I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
And now he's backing up the Lion's good story. Pittsburgh Steelers.
I don't know. Do we care that they have wid
a winning record every year for one hundred years?

Speaker 7 (16:17):
M Okay, it's pretty cool, go ahead, and that's I mean,
it's it's cool. They've always been relevant, which is crazy.

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Right with Tomlin too, He's never had a losing record.
But I think a lot of Pittsburgh fans are kind
of tired of him though. That's like the vibe that
I get.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's easy to be tired of somebody until you get
somebody that's worse, right, and then you miss whenever you
had something good.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, Like I take Mike Tomlin and Hart me too.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
And Tomlin did win a super Bowl, yeah, thirty years ago,
but he did win a super Bowl. On the show
that I do for NFL now, I was talking to
Kurt Warner about this specifically, and I said, hey, man,
are the Steelers in like purgatory because they never lose
enough to have a top pick. They never are able
to win enough to win a championship. It's always they

(17:05):
have a good coach, they win ten games, nine ten games.
It's like a purgatory type place because they don't have
a top three pick. They're never able to get one
of those quarterbacks. And he had a pretty good diplomatic
answer and he was like, you know, there are a
few quarterbacks there, you know, Lamar Jackson drafted thirty first,
fewer and far between. But it's like they have to
get the quarterback situation right and they haven't. And I'm

(17:26):
a big believer of and not in the Pittsburgh situation only,
but if think things are mid to slightly below mid
for a long time, sometimes you have to burn it
all down, Yeah, because then the NBA, especially you don't
want to be a five hundred team. You either want
to be terrible or you want to be awesome and
have a chance at the title. Otherwise you're just gonna
stay mid because you're drafting after nine in the first round.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Right, everyone's a project at that point.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
It doesn't have the league go to the playoffs anyway
in the NBA, but it doesn't matter if you don't win,
it doesn't matter, like if you're not if you don't
have a shot at it, like be terrible, be Houston,
be Detroit, and look at Houston now NBA.

Speaker 13 (18:05):
Yeah, Celtic's got Tatum and Jaylen Brown top three because
of that.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, hey rock Bottom, I.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Think the Steelers will be crazy to move Toman's awesome,
but and they're trying. Here's the thing. If they weren't
trying in the quarterback spot, I would go, maybe it
is time to move on. But they are trying because look,
they went and got Russ. Had to pay no money
for like a million bucks. It's it Denver's eating like
that money. Yeah, they wouldn't got Justin Fields, who's had
to play and that's played pretty well at times because

(18:34):
Russ is not playing that well, right, now.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
I mean, I wonder if they're gonna use justin fields
in this game coming up, maybe a couple of packages, but.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
May package yeah, package yeah. I still think you don't
pull Russ now because it's the playoffs and he's won
a Super Bowl too, But I I like, I feel
with my team we have hit our ceiling. Cowboys Arkansas
got it like we're gonna be mid just slightly below
mid until something drastic happens, and that sucks. And I

(19:01):
like the coach. I like Sam Pittman as a person
a lot, and I think he's a really good offensive
line coach. He's been a fine head coach. But the
problem is in the SEC at Arkansas. That's two difficult things.
You're in the SEC, the biggest, strongest conference ever, So
if you don't have something extremely dynamic, you're already not
even with the big schools. You're not even to start
with the and we can list them all the LSUS,

(19:24):
the Georgia's, the Alabamas, and the I mean, look at
a team like Ole Miss who now is winning. That's
who we're the same with. And they went dynamic with
Lane Kiffin who's able to dynamically get Innil money because
people believe in him, so you need us even if
the splash misses hard. I'm much happier losing, trying really

(19:48):
hard and losing bad then being pretty good without a
real chance. I feel like now we don't have a
real chance at Arkansas to win ten games. We're gonna
win five six games. We want six games this year.
Playoff games or the Bowl game does an account because
everybod's playing half a team. But I think Pittsburgh is
not that. I think Pittsburgh if they get the quarterback situation, right,

(20:10):
I think they're really good. Again. Yeah, it's just the
hardest thing to do. And I think they had a
top pick that's great. But they're so well coached, they
have a great personnel. Just about everywhere else Pickens is nuts.

Speaker 11 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, I think if.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Pickens had a quarterback though, that could slap some of
that nuts out of them. It would be different.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I mean Randy Moss is nothing to play with Tom
Brady yep. And then you have to respect Tom Brady,
you don't. You know Antonio Brown was nuts until he
left the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, so ghos Steelers keep Tomlin, but don't go Steelers.
Hope you lose. They're probably gonna lose.

Speaker 11 (20:44):
I think a ten point Yeah, nine and a half.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
I feel like it's going to be closer than that.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, just because of those two teams. Yeah too, those
two teams do play, right.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
I still think they lose, but yeah, and.

Speaker 13 (20:54):
They're kind of Lamar's nemesis, Like I think he's lost
six of eight or something like that with them.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Whatever reason like that last one a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
It is the first rivalry, and professional sports rivalries are weird.
The fans can hate each other, but that is a rival.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah, it is, and it's Hardball and Tom.

Speaker 8 (21:09):
When they've been doing it now for like almost fifteen years,
it seems like right wild two thousands.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, the FLA Lewis Days thing. All right when you
hear this, because we're doing this Thursday afternoon. The Notre
Dame Penn State game happened already, so it's not like
we're gonna talk about that. But congrats and Notre Dame
for winning. Played great. How about Penn State? They won
then won one of the big ones. That's cool. Good
for them. We're not gonna edit either one of these

(21:35):
out either. We could we're not going to.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
We can't be wrong.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, we're just what what a game?

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
That's awesome?

Speaker 11 (21:41):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I can't believe it's a blowout. Oh, I did not
expect that.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Who saw that coming? Wow? Wow? Okay, cool coming on
that one. And then tonight Ohio State of Texas. These
are the two teams I hate the most.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Of the four, so you won't watch.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
No.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I hope Ohio State does go bt A on them,
like and I hope it's a belt that has like
shards of glass on it. Oh my goodness, they take
that bt A, they go belt and they just make Texas.

Speaker 11 (22:11):
I didn't know what BTA meant.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Now I know, Yeah, you know what I mean. Belt
to Hey work, Mike Hey. Feeling Texas fan every time
somebody says that.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Now, I just want us to win more.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Like everybody's been saying that we're ready to get.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
Rolled, and now I just believe that we have a chance,
just because everybody's saying we have no chance.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Let's go Arizona State. You got pretty lucky playing now,
let's be honest, not not a great team.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Lucky you played Scataboo.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Not a great team. A little bit but they had
what it took to one. Yours came through. Not a
great team. You shouldn't even been close like you should
have when when they did look at the five star
and four stars on each team, it was not even
a comparison with the two teams Week one. It's been
so long with the playffor I know Texas played mikel

(22:59):
text play we want not a good team, not a
good team. You're good about to play a good team,
really good and you know what, I guess I kind
of went either way because I hate Ohio State too,
but I just hate Texas.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
More them to both lose.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Man.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I tried that. It didn't work. I tried that Texas Clemson.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I tried that. It didn't work. So Ohio State's only
a six point favorite. I thought it would be a
little more than that. But I guess because Texas actually
has really talented players and Sark is a great offensive mind. Yeah,
and if so we're coaching anywhere else, it'll be like, oh,
I like sorry, but he's running the Iraqi Army, so
it don't matter.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Who you are.

Speaker 11 (23:36):
They got the dudes, but so did Oregon.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
HM.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Ohio States got the dude.

Speaker 11 (23:41):
Dude, like, we got so well two games in a row.
It's like, come on, there's no way.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Games like monster trucks demolishing the little cars that are
sitting there in the speedway. Two really good teams. That
organ game was over. I mean it was like the
game on. It's like it's the Homer Simpson gift Mike.
He walks in Grandpa Citizen. Yeah, it takes his hat off,
but that guy turns around, grabs it walks out. That
was Oregon in that game. As far as the NFL games,

(24:10):
and we can do this and set our parlay real quick.
And then we have Jeff Jarrett, which was awesome for me.
I'm a massive wrestling fan and Jeff Jarrett he Pro
Wrestling Hall of Famer, like still doing it. Okay, let's
do parlay here. We have to we have to parlay.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Man. We got it.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
So sad have you been thinking about it?

Speaker 5 (24:33):
We got it?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I just I like to go. I believe I'm gonna
win this game. I'm way down though.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
By the way, are you warming up though?

Speaker 6 (24:41):
No?

Speaker 4 (24:42):
No, it's still cold, it's freezing. It's still in the freezer.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, Like I'm excited to watch the games and not
bet because it's been so bad for me and I
don't I just don't want our listeners think. Oh, he
always says when he went no, no, I'm wait, I'm
losing terror at a terrible pace. Okay, pick one of
the games, Kevin, you can go what stands out? I mean,

(25:05):
let's just walk the line. Chargers minus three at the Texans,
Steelers at the Ravens. Ravens favorite Mine nine and a half,
broncos of Bills, Bill's eight and a half point favorite,
Packers at the Eagles, Eagles four and a half point favorite.
Commanders at Bucks Bucks minus three. So every home team
is favored except the Texans. The Texans are at home
and they're the dog. Take a stab.

Speaker 11 (25:29):
Come on, Kevin, let me go the Steelers.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Mike.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
If we do four, really put it up on the app.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
I can see.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, So you're gonna go Steelers plus.

Speaker 11 (25:37):
Nine and a half plus nine and a half.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
Yeah, stupid question. Can I take the Ravens and then
cancel that one out and then you picked two? Can
you do the opposite of the same, Parlan, I've never
done that.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
You would lose the money, You lose the the what's
the in the parlay? You would lose because if you
miss any stupid Yeah, so he but he has taken
so you cannot take that game, Eddie. So he's got
Steelers plus nine and a half, and we'll try to
get this on DraftKings, Eddie, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
I think the Bills are gonna roll. I think the
Bills will have no problem taking on Denver and they
are favored by eight and a half.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Bills eight and a half, Bills plus eight and a
half minus eight and a half.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I'm sorry, Bills minus eight and a half. Yeah good,
I'm gonna get just go Bucks money line. It's this
good smallest spread. It's at home a coin flip that
one wins by a field goal, you know, like last
minute kick. So I go Bucks money line. That's three.
We need four, mic Yeah, I'll do four.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Okay, Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Man. How about Eagles minus four and a half.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
How about it? Or just money line? What do you
think two? I'd say anything three over three? Take do
a spread.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Three is close enough to feel like money and you're
not gonna lose too much. Yeah on the odds, all right,
Eagles minus I believe in them.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Maybe good goal.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Kind of so we have and would you text this
Kevin to to Eddie and I or whatever we do
just so I know instead of it like being what
do we beta? Steelers plus nine and a half, Bill's
minus eight and a half, Eagles minus four and a
half bucks money line?

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Oh yeah, what do you think?

Speaker 8 (27:25):
I was gonna say the Rams actually, because I think
the Vikings are a slight favorite, I would right.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh it's a Monday, yeah, got it, got it, got it?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
So I hate that was my choice.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Hey do it a parlor and you have to wait
like a day. You didn't realize it when you bet it?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
No, you know what I did one time? I picked
one for the next week.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Because you like scrolled down and I think I've done
that too. I've done that, not in a party, just
a straight bet and I'm like, oh god, I gotta
wait till a whole week. If you want to take
the twenty five Whistles parlay, you can check out DraftKings
Sports book. Do it, we do it, We love it.
Hopefully we're up on the app. If not, I don't know.
Do you run with this?

Speaker 4 (28:01):
They want to run with this?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm gonna be the only one that misses. I'm so cold.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
No, dude, I'm cold too.

Speaker 11 (28:06):
I'm cold too. That like, honestly, since we're confessing here,
so everyone take.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
The opposite of what wards.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
But but you know what that means too. That means
that everyone's cold like us three can't be the only
ones that are cold. I bet it's just a cold
season right now for just people playing games.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I'm so cold as to what I'm used. Even
this year, I was like, I've bet I've had a
good year. I can't get one writing. I hate me anyway,
I'll find everybody.

Speaker 11 (28:31):
I still say that.

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slash audio. I'm a big wrestling fan. I will say
not so much today. I don't watch it every week.
Now some clips will come up, like I can't act

(29:16):
like I'm a big Roman Reigns fan. I know who
he is, No, not new, but he's like the biggest now,
like Cody Rhoads. Like absolutely I saw him, I'd be
like to Cody Roads. But I'm a massive wrestling fan,
like over the course of my life. And Jeff Jarrett, dude,
he's been around in so many like just decades, and

(29:37):
he's been champion here in WCW and AW and so
he came in here he is. He's in the Pro
Wrestling Hall of Fame. He's WWWE Hall of Fame. Jeff
jarreted he recently announced he signed his final contract, gonna
be hanging it up in the near future. He has
a big goal in mind for this year, and we
talk about that. He gave us some great insight we
talked called Cochin, which you could tell I won't put
words in his mouth, but you could tell he felt
very very similar to how I and I wasn't trying

(30:01):
to lure him into anything get clickbait. That you can
definitely tell that maybe Hulk wasn't his favorite guy either. Eddie,
what did you think of the interview? Just yeah, thoughts
before before we play that.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
I mean, I thought that you truly enjoyed every minute
of this interview like me, Yeah, you just you loved
asking questions. When he would talk, you would just light
up and you have another question right after it. So
it's really cool to see you get lit up by
like an interview. Weird way to say it, but you
know what I mean, weird way to say it. Ye, yes,

(30:33):
here he is Jeff Jarrett. Great to see you again, man.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I watch first of all follow you on Instagram, So
I feel like I still like talk even though that's
a weird part of life where you see someone, but
also like I see all your like your a w
stuff because I'm a big wrestling fan.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Get out of here, my well, you are from Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And you're not even kidding because that's what we had,
Like we would drive to Memphis as a young kid
and go to the Pyramid, you know, and do the
Mid South stuff. Like I caught the very back end
of the.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Von Erics, so I should know this. We're in Arkansas, so.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It's nearly it's a six hundred people small town.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
In four hundred like Para, Gold Black Oak, all.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Schools we played in sports. Yeah, so I'm from a
town called Mountain Pine. We would never get a wrestling
but Hot Springs was big enough that occasionally.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
So you're that toward Hot Springs, Yes, got it? Okay,
so what you really are?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Hell dude, we are hillbailing for sure. For sure. And
so yeah, so my TikTok is all like nineties of
two thousands wrestling, Like that's my algorithm that I'm on
because I watched so much of it. Oh boy, that
I followed your entire arc you know, of which arc exactly?
That's what I'm saying. But they are like multiple versions.

(31:44):
I'm just let me start with now. Because I have
friends that played like professional sports, one who played professional
NFL for a long time, and I was like, man,
after every game does it hurt? And as a professional wrestler,
after every match, do you just know it's going to
hurt for a couple of days?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
You know, Bobby, that is a really a loaded question,
because this may sound crazy at fifty seven years of age,
I wish I could wrestle more because the wrestling like
every three weeks or once a month, I know, for
the next forty eight seventy two hours, and I'm all
into the recovery and the cryo and saw no's and

(32:20):
all that kind of stuff. But there's just something about
the lactic acid build up and it's rough. I mean,
I hate to admit it, but it is really rough,
even one.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Off, because I feel like I work out hard, but
I do it hard three times a week, and even
my like to guess I'm older, it's old and so
I can't imagine going as hard as you're going. But
also once every three weeks, that's like doing bench press heavy.
Once every three you'd be so freaking sore. But doing
what you're doing with your full body, I would imagine

(32:51):
you're so sore or you've taken so many bumps that
it just kills your neck and back.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Well, just the sore it is.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
But I.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's funny since the last time we saw each other,
man my life is I guess you just sprinkled some
of that Bobby Bones gold dust on me. It's changed
so many ways. But you know, during the pandemic, we
were all shut in and all that, and I won't
say the word, but I got really sick and I
was down fit of my back for about two weeks.
And when I was laying there, I said, you know what,

(33:21):
I'm going to get in the best possible shape I
can when I get out of this bed. And I
really put my mind on it. So I've trained harder,
worked harder, not just with weights cardio flexibility.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Has that become more important to me?

Speaker 10 (33:34):
I do you?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I have my streak still going, but I do yoga
every morning for the last seven years or six years.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
However it is why what do you find about the
flexibility part of it?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I live by this my chiropractor. He's really applied kinesiologists.
He looked at me one day when I was on
the table and he said, if you want to live
a long life, live a long life. And then he
just meant me, he said, man, you got to increase
your flexibility. And there's a lot that goes with that.
But I have found that I am stronger, faster, feel better.
Not when you wrestle, you're still gonna have that soreness.

(34:08):
But but I do the stretching and the yoga and
the breathing and everything that goes with it, I do
feel a notice a little bit better. I have better energy.
You know. Another thing. During the pandemic, I got on
this here and said you got to get out of
this house. So that but I walked every afternoon for
like ninety minutes and before the sun will go down,

(34:29):
and I've kind of found just the movement. It just
really has helped me, not just physically, I think mentally
and emostally as well. Just a little quiet time with God,
if you will.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I think wrestling fans are great historians. I'm a mid
wrestling historian, but I think that there's a respect to
the wrestlers that have lived many lives for our enjoyment.
And you're one of those guys. Do you feel when
you go in and you your pop happens, or maybe

(35:02):
it's not, it's the reverse. Do you feel the wrestling
fan honoring you and other wrestlers that have been around
for twenty thirty years in a way that's never happened before.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
So I'm not only a wrestling junkie, but I just
kind of like data and when you look at look,
I'm not comparing it, but you know, you look at
you two or the Stones or I'll call them all
the legacy acts, and just they keep on and they
keep on, and they keep on, and they're selling the
tickets and on that. And then when I go out
to your point and I hear the response a lot

(35:40):
of times, we'll call it that nostalgia pop because there
is so much going on in this world today and
our roster is almost two hundred deep. But when you
kind of look at at a graph in the amount
of times and the impressions, if you will, that I've
been on TV or you know, just been around people
know me, they like me, or they don't like me.

(36:00):
But yes, there is a response. And last summer I
did about a ten minute sit down interview that we
aired on YouTube, and I've had more people come up
because it was a historical piece, but also I touched
on Owen Hart and really got into that. And we
have a tournament at aw called the Owen Invitational. But
that was something that brought the fans that had never

(36:23):
heard of Jeff Jared or Owen Hart or whatever. It
just kind of brought them up, like, oh, this guy's
been around a while. So yes, the short answer to
your question, I told you how to build a watch
as opposed to what time it was.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
But yes, I feel like even the young wrestlers are history.
You almost have to be knowledgeable in the history of wrestling.
It's almost like country music, or if you're a young
country music artist, you almost don't get the pass unless
you can prove that. You can't get across this part
of the bridge, unless you prove that you're an actual
fan and that you've spent your life valuing it. And
I feel like that with the young wrestlers, even towards

(36:56):
some of those guys like yourself in the nineties two thousands,
like that has to happen.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
You know. What I have.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Observed is that the guys that really don't know the
history of wrestling, they're not around, you know, in three months,
six months, and nine months. They weed themselves out because
at the end of the day, what we do is
not easy and they're like, you know, I don't really
like this stuff, and they excuse them way out of
the business one way or another.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Can ask one one hard question, Oh, fire away, we
were watching that pay per view. You can't city, right,
did you at the time, Were you surprised they continued
the show?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Not at the time. I don't know if we talked
about this last time, but that was the one thing
when I went into recovery that I never processed at
all at the time. It was I hate to say it,
but it was work. And I've talked to his widow Martha,
and extensive conversations all that, but it was just we
were in a place that his match was on before me.

(37:58):
You know, the backstage stage manager came and said, hey,
Owen's going to the ring. You're up next. So I
had in my mind about eighteen fifteen, eighteen minutes and
like three minutes later they came said you're on now,
and I went did a promo and all that stuff
was going around. They wheeled his body right beside me
and I went to the ring. Did that came back?

(38:18):
Cop was there. I said, I want to go to
the hospital right now. But it was as I hate
to say this, but it was the reality and it
called up to me. It was, unfortunately, in my mind,
another day at work with a tragic accident.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
The blood and the ring and afterward, it's easy to
look at it because I think I would have felt
the same as you as a performer, and there were
still a lot of questions, and until Jim Ross came
on later, I was like, and but again, you guys
are there on the ground. I definitely don't want to
make this in a heart thing, but I've been thinking
about this. I think I would have been the same.
I'd have been like, we go until we're told not

(38:54):
to go, and then we figured out after it's over.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
No doubt I got in the ring. To this day,
I haven't watched that back, that match back for a
number of reasons. But I felt the top rope very
very loose, and I went over in the corner where
his body had fallen and there was and I can
talk about it now. For years I wouldn't talk about it,
but there was a dip in the ring. There was
no blood, and it was where his body had fallen.

(39:19):
And I just had a sense on okay in my
gut and I didn't process it and intellectually think it through,
but in my gut I was like, Okay, this is bad.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Did I invent the blood in the ring?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Up?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
In my head? There was a little bit on the corner, Okay, Yeah,
there was some, but it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
In the ring where you're actually wrestling. Okay, got it.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, his head hit the top rope severed as a order, so.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Do you know the story? Yet he fell from the top.
Really it was on a wire and he came down.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Was he with the Blue Meanie or Blue Blazer?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
So?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
And it ended up being like the contraption from what
that I heard, the contraption's fault.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
He was repel, supposed to repel in the ring and
the top feet in the air, repel into the ring,
let go of his harness, and then wrestle. He was
up top and the however, it released and he felt
eighty two feet to his death.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Wow, in the middle in the middle of the show,
Like did you know that, Kevin? No, yeah, you watched
that live zones. They didn't show. So we're watching the
pay per view and they didn't show it because the
camera the camera was just away and they came back.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
He was just hanging up there ready to go on Q. Yeah,
T lower. So they were doing other on it things
like that.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
So no, they didn't they didn't show. You didn't see
it happen. You just saw after and they kept going
and even watching it. But again, in my mind, I've
seen so many stories of what was happening at the
time that I think even my memory has been affected
by all the docus And but now you see like
people cutting promos live crying, not knowing because they but
they know what had happened. I don't understand that, but

(40:55):
I appreciate you answering that. Yeah, can I.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Give you a little ironic please do that? Please do
uh So, back in those days it was WWF and WCW.
That was the May pay per view of WWF the
May WCW payper Because I left WWF and went to WCW,
I was on that pay per view in a triple
cage and I had to climb sixty two feet up

(41:18):
the following year exact same building. The ironic part of
all that is it took me a long time, Bobby.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I bet, just because one, even if it's just your
friend or your coworker, but two, like you.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Were on right after Yeah, it was right after life.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Why what why are you still going? Because you're still
good too, Like why are you quitting? I have like
all these questions, like you shouldn't be as good, like
you still got it. It's crazy like, okay, why are
you still going? But also why are you quitting? Uh?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Well, let's just say this. I made the announcement every year. Literally,
this is my thirty seventh career year, and I did this.
I can't say I did it the first seven or
eight years, but my dad and me had a conversation
one year, and out of that conversation, I said, Okay,
every December, I'm going to re evaluate what it's going
to look like next year, kind of reflect How'm gonna

(42:11):
get better and what am I going to do moving forward?
And I've done that every year. Years ago, I started
a wrestling promotion called TNA, and one of the main
things about that, Bobby was, is that I wanted to
step out of the ring. You know, my grandmother said
you can wrestle, but don't wrestle, become a wrestler, basically
keep your business cap on. And then just kind of
all this has transpired and got myself in shape. Had

(42:35):
no idea what I'd been doing here today, but a yeah,
I mean, we did a thing with Rick Flair and
Rick Flair's last match and went through all that, and
that led to another thing. So Bobby I only by
the grace of God am I still going wrestling.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
But I love it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I will say that I have been really, really, really
lucky that I don't feel I've ever worked a day
in my life in a lot of ways. It's sure
there's a grind and there's a lot of travel, but
I absolutely love professional wrestling everything about it. I'm one
in five siblings. The other four had zero interest in it.
I got bit by the bug about two miles from here.

(43:15):
This is where I grew up, down by Overton High School,
and I just love professional wrestling everything about it.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Are you how much a part of your creative are
you now?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Very little? Very little? And that is That's been an adjustment,
good and bad because I don't have the responsibility. It
is a full time, NonStop juggling act. But I have
a little to know real input. I can little tweaks
here and there, but for the most part, it's not

(43:47):
my ball of wax.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Who in your career was good enough that you just
you could if you had to just call the match
the entire time in the ring like you got to do,
Oh who was that good? Where you felt or you
had the chemistry with them?

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Shoot, I could go down the list. I'm you know
Jerry Lawler. We wrestled many sixty minute broadways and he
wouldn't talk to me before we went out there, which
was kind of amazing to me. Shawn Michael's Kurt Angle.
There's several guys that it's just when you have the
ability to kind of have a vision where you want

(44:21):
to go, and you know your opponent's strengths and weaknesses
and play to the strengths and diminish the weaknesses. There's
several guys that you could do that with.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Any of the guys ever protect you and you protect
them because you knew somebody was hurt during the match
and you communicated it and it's like my right shoulder,
So then you continued to have the match, but you
just made sure to stay on the left shoulder, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
You kind of always do that. That goes without saying yeah,
when you said protect. I can remember breaking into the business.
A wrestler came in who had a hair transplant. You
had to protect that. Don't touch my hair. Don't touch
my hair. But no, that goes with saying you it's
it's a it's a grind, so you have to be

(45:03):
aware of the health of your opponent.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
A couple of the bigger guys in my life that
apparently work pretty stiff, And I imagine if someone works stiff,
you probably have to stiff back so you don't get hurt.
Is that how that would work? Like like Goldberg apparently
was stiff because he was like he didn't life to
come up. He was just he didn't know how to wrestle. Yeah,
And they say that a lot about Ultimate Warrior, And

(45:27):
I never wrestled either one of them, so I don't
know how stiff they are or how when you would
wrestle somebody that was stiff, how would you how would
you do the dance?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
So this may be getting to get in the weeds.
I think there's a difference between between stiff and reckless.
Stiff you just work snug, you lay it in. I'm
a huge fan of that. We understand what we signed
up for, so get in there and don't don't make

(45:59):
everything so light. So stiff is one thing. A guy
who's reckless, the guy that might not have a skill set,
might not have two left feet. If you will, you've
got to be completely well aware of what's going on,
and you just can't put yourself in a position to
be hurt. You know, I've had several old timers, guys

(46:21):
that would come up to me and say, yeah, I
know why you're around. You wouldn't do a B and
C whatever the dump crap is. And I think there
is some validity to that that you have to be
really aware that don't give yourself. Don't give your body
to a guy that might not be mean spirited but
certainly doesn't know how to take care of you. And
then hey man, you're not eating the next week, you're

(46:44):
not earning a paycheck, So that's incumbent upon me.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
What about moves like the DDT or a pile driver
that is heavy neck if gone wrong, are there specific
guys that you were like, I trust them fully if
they're going to pile drive or ddtmy and you can
said the one you trust, you don't have say anything
about the ones you don't. But is that a thing,
because again, those go wrong, that's real bad.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
So and you know we're gonna really get in the
weeds the different moves. But you got to just know
how to protect yourself.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
So it's on you. If you're getting pile drive, you
got to do the thing, you.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Better know how to protect yourself. Yes, without question, it's
you know, now, there's all kinds of new moves and
getting thrown and flips and that kind of stuff, and
sometimes guys put themselves in a position that you know,
dang well, it's there is a high risk of injury
and they still do it. I just don't think that's smart.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Especially for anny longevity. That's why I quite wrestling guys.
There we go. I was just like, I don't want
to do it once because.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
I'll die.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
If like if we like a guy like I could
Cactus shack mankind, Mick Foley, whatever, who like. I don't
know how good of an athlete he was, because he
didn't look like an athlete, But my assumption is he
had to be a great athlete to last that long
and also live through some of the risks he took.

(48:07):
Was he an great athlete.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
He's a good athlete. He wrestled amateur, but you know,
and we could probably go down a list of guys.
But a guy like mcfoley, he had a passion, almost
to a detriment. I tell him that to his face,
that he didn't mind sacrificing his physical health and gave
it to the fans. Look it, we're talking about him today,

(48:31):
falling off a cage and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
That's what I think of under the Undertaker, you know,
falling excuse me, you know, falling through jumping off.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah, and I just think he has to because he
didn't look it. But that's part of his gimmick, right,
even in mister Soccker, like all the things he did,
he had so much around him, but always I mean,
he must be a great athlete to be able to
live through this many things.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
He had a desire to perform like none other. You know,
he feels it to this day. You see him walk
around today. He you know, he doesn't get around as
good as a I'll say a sixty year old man.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Should sounds like a former NFL player. And guys that
we know, they're like, oh, man, like, it's hard for
me to even get up in the morning because of that.
When you wore pants, because you you were never you
mostly weren't tights. Guy, you had pants for a lot
of long tights. Yeah, it was all tights forever, like
you know we tights. Yeah, it was weird, the short tights. Yeah,

(49:30):
and I wear short biker shorts now yeah, but again,
but you had pants, you have a whole long yes,
for a long time. But like all those guys from
like early Teddy b Aussi, Bruno, San Martino, they all
had like these gimmicks and then they would just be
like just in tights, and I was when you started
to wear pants. Was that uncommon that people were wearing
things other than just the tights the very beginning of pants.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
So the easy analogy was, you know, prior to cable television,
they were territory wrestling and it was truly called professional
whi and it was a mindset. Well, guy named Vince
McMahon came along and said, I'm going to turn this
into sports entertainment, and you kind of look at the
transition and look, in the early eighties there were long,
tight guys, but it was you wear long tights or

(50:13):
short tights, but all the costuming and persona and yes,
gorgeous George and the real hardcore wrestling fans going to
say no, they were doing this and that. But the
business really radically changed in the mid eighties when Haulclemania
came along and you saw talent, you saw wrestlers on
lunchboxes because of the licensing. And so when the licensing

(50:33):
came along, that's when the real define costuming and personas
and all that changed.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Who was your favorite wrestler as a kid?

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Lawlor Savage and that My original og was the fabulous
Jackie Farco. I was mesmerized not just by his strut
but his demeanor.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
You know, he.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
His promo skills if you will, he would just sit
there and talk and make you laugh. They didn't make
you cry. And then at the end of his promo
he would be very calm and cool and just say
I'm coming down the coliseum to kick your ass. And
I believed it. It was his delivery.

Speaker 10 (51:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
He was a really good actor that you wouldn't ever
want to call Jackie an actor. He called himself a
professional wrestler. But his delivery was so believable.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
When did you get in the zone with promos? Because
you're great, You're one of the best ever. But were
you all? I'm assuming you weren't alway, because I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Always I was terrible. Yeah. When do a podcast drops
new every New my World my shirt on every Tuesday,
they just we just recently played my very first promo
I wasn't just bad, Bobby, I was horrible. But I
tell you what, the reps that I got WMC TV
and Memphis TV every Saturday morning at ten am going

(51:48):
out and do that that you just got it reps
and reps and reps. So it just took me a while.
And then when I went to the WWF in nineteen
ninety three, it's the first time that I'd really been
produced by someone other than my father, and that that
was a difficult relationship to the years with my father,
just because he's my dad, but he's also he was
harder on me than anybody, and he did that by design.

(52:10):
But when Vince started producing me and brought things out
of me. And I tell guys today, man, find somebody
that you like, but they need to produce you don't
produce yourself.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Who as a peer was a great promo.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Man there. So I mean Lawler comes to mind right
up top, Mick Foley, really really good Stone Cold had
had had his stick down. If you want really really
good the rock of course, I tell you what you give.
Rode Dog Jesse James, Brian James. His father was Bullet
Bob Armstrong, so he's a second generation Brian was one

(52:51):
of those guys like Fargo. He could make you laugh,
he could make you cry, and then he could deliver
very very very very believable former marine, so he knew
how to yell.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
The road Dog was awesome.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Oh it fat.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
He did his own. He did his own too, like
coming out, Yeah, wrestling, I was watching any it's all
my algorithm. It's crazy what that, like the late nineties
would allow a wwf.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Oh my gosh, it's well, yeah, you've been canceled. We've
been canceled a lot.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Crazy, I know, to look back and see some of that.
There was one where Triple H was eating a hot
dog at a table and he's looking down and then
he's like, oh yeah, and then afterwards this girl just
climbs out from under the table like that was kind
of just as wild. But I'm like twelve, and I'm like, yeah,
I'm talking about exactly a different world.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
And cable television was a different world.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
There wasn't four or five hundred channels and certainly not
YouTube and streaming all that. It was still truly cable television.
The numbers when you just kind of look at everything,
it was, uh, it was a fun time to be
alive in so many ways, But what exposure. Everybody watched
it back then?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Hey, well, especially when you're Hillbillies, like it was our
there you go, yeah, it was our sports.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You didn't want to care about Titans and preads and
football and basketball. That's that highbrow stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Now we wanted to go to Memphis and watch Junkyard
Dog exactly because it was you know, did you watch
Iron Claw b any chance?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
You know what I did on a plane. It was
about a while after it came out, but I did.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
What did you think about it? The movie versus what
the reality?

Speaker 2 (54:26):
So my father in nineteen eighty eight went out there. Yeah,
my dad was right on the end of the movie.
And so I lived those tragedies. And I get it,
it's Hollywood. They did it for their own reasons. But
for me personally, That's why I don't want to sound like, oh,
he's negge about this movie. But when I watched it,
my experience was I could not remove the real life

(54:50):
mentality of the Mints. Just unbelievable tragedy, and like Chris
wasn't even in the movie, and he was, you know,
it took his life, but wasn't even mentioned. And I
know they have their reasons and all that, but so
for a movie, I get it. You know, I'm certainly
not a movie critic by any stretch of the imagination,

(55:11):
but it was you know, on the one hand, I'm
glad they kind of in a way celebrated that story.
But the real life story is much much, much more
tragic than the movie.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Which it is often the other way around is what's crazy?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
And I think hopefully because I did this too, and
again I caught the tail end because Carrie was killing
it mid South when I was young and we'd drive over.
But hopefully people watch the movie and then like googled
and then like red for real, because that's what I
did again, and it was like, oh yeah, I forgot
about all this, and I missed the older Von Eric's right.

(55:48):
I wasn't old enough to see the older brothers. Are you,
I mean, are you sad it's coming to an end?
Or do you feel like you're going to come out
of retirement for the fourth time like the Stones?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
No, Look, that's that's the thing. I was really back
to the situation that you know, this time in our business.
Just last week in Ashville, we did a show called
Fight for the following but it was Dynamite and it
was our first ever streaming episode. WW just premiered on Netflix.
You know, we're on Max and so the business as

(56:19):
a whole is really transforming into it's going to the
next level. We just talked about the golden age of
cable television. I've been lucky enough by the greatest guy
to be around. Here's the next ride, and so as
a part of me signing my final contract, I just
kind of put that out there, because look, I'm not

(56:41):
riding off into the sunset. I'll be around in professional wrestling,
but as far as an entering career, I just kind
of made up my mind that Okay, this is it.
But I think I've also incentivized myself because I want
one last shot at gold. I want to go out
with a bang somehow someway and then be done with it.
But I'm not ready as I sit here today to

(57:02):
be done with it at all.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Did you watch any of the WWE on Netflix. Yeah,
Hogan got booed hard.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
And I did not see that.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I was surprised. Now, why only because it was such
a celebration of wrestling now, but also they had heroes
as well, and I was surprised because again, wrestling fans
are such historians. I was surprised they didn't just cheer
for the character, and they didn't. They booed the person,

(57:35):
And well, why did they boo the person anything? I
don't I don't know your friendship. So I'm just gonna
say this. I don't think o Cookan is a good dude.
And so I feel like, was it a political boo?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Was it?

Speaker 14 (57:47):
No?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Because Undertaker got a pop, big pop an. Undertaker came
out and sport Trump, So that eliminated the political thing immediately,
because I was like, let's not make this p I
don't want.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Okay, I'm That's why I'm curious. So it was lends.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
It was not to me.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
It was not political because Undertaker and Kane both sat
with Donald Trump and said we are saying vote for
Donald Trump. Hogan obviously he was make America great again.
It was not political. People respect the Undertaker as a
wrestler and a person. People don't respect Holkogan anymore. It
just it's one thing after the other. Yeah, And I
think because of that, people now know there was a

(58:23):
story about Holcogin that I was going to talk about
on our show this morning, where this fan said, hey,
I saved up and gave hul Cogan this four thousand
dollars belt as a gift because it was like my hero.
Hulk signed it in auction, it sold it, hello and
sold it and sold it. So I think, yea, and
when there's one hundred of those things, I think those
people are cheering against that human. It was not political, Okay,

(58:46):
they would have treated Undertaker the same way. Wow, that's
my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
So I had a lot going on at my house
last night. I watched the first hour and a half
two hours. I did not see that segment. I saw
the very end of the last match. So you the
first conversation I've had, and that is that the whole
Undertaker which you laid out for me, is interesting, but
it also, I guess to me, it jumps off of

(59:14):
the page. At the wrestling fan, there has been such
a stereotype, Oh my whole life, Oh you like wrestling,
You're a bunch of low brow entertainment, blah blah blah
blah blah. And at the end of the day, I've
always believed this professional wrestling fans are pop culture. Sometimes
we've been in front of the car, maybe sometimes not.

(59:35):
But you look in political circles, it's a wrestling promo.
You look at all the belts and all the you know,
there's so much to me. There's a lot of professional
wrestling in touchdown dances and celebrations and all kinds of things.
But the wrestling fan is so easy to understand that

(59:55):
I have a you they put groceries on my table
for three generations. But I have a lot respect for
the wrestling fans because they will tell you what they
like and what they don't like, sometimes more importantly, and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I feel like they're educated, yes, And I feel like
they're so educated, myself being one, and that they still
enjoy it knowing what a shoot is, oh knowing it's always.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Been irrelevant, but whether it's real or not. And that's
where the for those that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Believe that all saying, those that believe no explanations needed,
those who don't believe no explanation will do about fresh wrestling.
It's the true fan could have they could care less.
They want to be entertained. But to your point, Hogan
didn't didn't pass the sniff test last night.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
It was embarrassing and they let him know it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's where I respect the wrestling fan, like, okay, and
I'm assuming they were selling the beer right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
On his shirt. He came out with a shirt. So
he comes out and he's like brother, and I was
not expecting them to do and I'm like, wow, they're
doing And so he has his beer on his shirt
and he ends up doing the shirt rip and it's
like Netflix, and that part I got. But he also
felt like a shill because he was just coming out
to sell his beer and how do you come out
in a whole Comania shirt? I think maybe slightly different,
But even then, again, I was surprised that they just

(01:01:09):
didn't cheer the character, but they booed the human that's
a wrestling fan. And yes, and it wasn't political again
because like that they went undertake, they went crazy. I
love that the motorcycle around the ring because it was like,
you know, American BA Undertaker motorcycle, not you know, death
motor you know, not dead not dead Bear. Yeah, that

(01:01:32):
kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
But the where was Oh the world we live in now?
Just the evolution of the business. I mean, I love
your beautiful new studios and I've heard you got a
sports podcast. This may be on this just how things
have continued to transform. That's wrestling. It's a on Netflix.
Who would have ever been out? We're all max every
week now globally. It's it's amazing where wrestling is going.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
It's so pop culture that this interview I'll be able
to play it. It'll be on a podcast, it'll be
on the radio show, and different parts of it are
appealing to different people for different reasons. So you know,
we've done forty minutes here and I'll take three, four, five,
six minutes and put it on the national broadcast radio show.
I'll put forty minutes of it as a podcast. It'll
be twenty different two minute clips. Amazing, it's every because

(01:02:19):
that's I mean wrestling is that now?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
And you're right the Belts like every football team has
the championship bell like interception. I mean it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Our president is in the ww Hall of Fame. I
say that tongue and cheap, but it is. I'm going
back to the wrestling fan and pop culture and where
our industry's at. And you know, I tell guys, hey, man,
if you want to really get good at it, you
go to YouTube and start watching because you have that ability.
Like you say it, two minute clips, three minute clips.
Wrestling's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Before we conclude, who's like an awesome dude a famous wrestler,
there's like awesome dude. Give me like three awesome dudes
that I want to be happy. I like cheer that
I like, he says Hulk. Well, that's why I said
to it. I was like, I'm a little different. I
just wanted to give my opinion before I even knew.
But yes, who are like awesome dudes?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Oh my gosh, you're gonna put me on the spot here,
Brian Danielson, he knew Daniel Daniel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Brian is how you may know it newer version? Yes,
got it now?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah, that guy assalted earth and just I can't tell
you how genuine he loves the business anyway. You don't
want me to go into all the characteristics. But Brian, oh,
you're gonna see what about back in the day man?
So many different characters, remember dutch Man tel I do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
That's that's back back in the day. That's way back
in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I look at him as one of my mentors, but
he was a guy and I was a promoter's kid,
but he took the time. He's very well read. He
taught me a lot, really, and when he didn't have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
To eighties Dutch Motil nineties give me nineties. Like a
good dude that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
We know, a good dude, you know what, yokozuna really
Yoko h I got in there ninety three ninety four
one day, one night after a show. He said, who
you riding with? And I said, well, I got to
get to the airport to rent a car. He said,
now you're with me, and so I rode with him
for a while and the salt of the earth. But

(01:04:20):
I mean a gentle giant.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
When he would you know, he'd stick his butt in
your head and he did flash.

Speaker 9 (01:04:26):
You know, that's Rakishi, Yoko. He wouldn't follow, Yeah, he
was yeah, he would do yes, you know, but whatever
you call the whole a because he was like Sumo exactly,
that's him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
That's him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Would he like pull the punch, like do you when
you do that and you're that big? Can you pull
that punch a little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
His athletic ability was second to none. You know, Roban
rains Rakishi, the USO's it's all rocks, a part of
that family. But to me, Yoko's athletic ability was he
he was incredible because he knew how to take care
of you. But his he looks so vicious. Oh yeah,

(01:05:05):
I mean he was great.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
It's huge.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
There are four people and before I know, do whatever
you do, I would do this. I'd like, I want
to go to dinner sometime and I would love to.
This is like my favorite things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Ok Ahead, Owen Hart and I just cannot tell you
and people he was at River and a practical joker
and all this. But man, I was always amazed because
growing up in a wrestling family like myself, it's just
it were just kind of whack jobs. No, it's just
a different upbringing. Owen same thing. He's one of ten

(01:05:38):
kids and all that. But man, you talk about having
your head on straight, Owen to me is at the
top of that list.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
There are like four celebrities and I've been very fortunate
in my career to either have interviewed anybody ever want
to interview or do show or just like have relationships.
And there's like four on my list that I've never
been able to get at. One of them is the
baseball player Mark Grace, number seventeen, for the Cup. My
favorite player growing up. Another one is David Letterman, like

(01:06:06):
my hero, right, David Letterman was my hero. I saw
somebody from I'm from the South but he's from Middle
America who looked a little odd. I was an odd kid.
I was like, Oh, if he can do it. So
I have these people in my life that are the
white whale that one of them of the four is
a wrestler, no way, and I can't get him to
save my life. And you, I think you know. I
don't know if you guys are friends or not. It's

(01:06:29):
what what is Sting?

Speaker 14 (01:06:31):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Oh wow, dude, I've tried to get I've been like,
let me interview you. I'll come to you. I wrote
about him in my first book because no, I don't
know what's Steve or Sting or whatever, like he will
not acknowledge my existence and it may and it makes
me sad. Jeff where scoobat he who knows what?

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
I'll work my deal with him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I don't want you to pay me, but he'll pay me, okay, deal?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
No, no, no, no, I'm kidding. Do you mind?

Speaker 10 (01:06:59):
What I like?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Sting is a person? Absolutely you would that's my He's
my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Would you mind if I put out feelers to him?

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Are you doing whatever you want? I've tagged him, We've
like reached out to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
The past and and again, would you just say you
would go to him?

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Absolutely? I wrote about him in my first book when
I talk about influences that made me want and Sting
was one of them, And so I was like, he's
my list of people I have never met that I've
been trying so hard to get to. Wow, And that's
what I'd like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
To tell you. Consider it none. But I've got to
find out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Why what I like him? You can Maybe I wouldn't
like him, you would.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
He's authentic, really authentic. Uh what a you know California
kid that you know played basketball and then got in
the gym And yeah, well you maybe you don't so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
At what we didn't. You didn't ask a question. You
asked a question in your head and then answered it
before you said the words.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Maybe he doesn't know the connection between the jareds and Sting?

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Who me, you I do not know that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Okay? Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Do you call him Sting or Steve? What do you say?
Because we called Lunchbox Lunchbox all the time when he.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Walks in the door for wrestling. Stinger, what are we
doing tonight? Got it on the phone, Hey, Steve, maybe
a little sick both. But so there were four guys
called the Power Team that were trained out in California.
They were all just in the gym.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
The way Stein got into it, he went to a
show at La Arena and saw Julkomane and said, yeah,
I kind of give this a shot. So there were
four guys called Power Team USA that they sent out
their feelers to all kinds of promoters across the country.
That's how I used to do it, black and white,
eight by tens. My dad got the photos and said,
holy smokes, these guys look great, called them, got Jim

(01:08:51):
Helwig on the phone, who was Warrior and Sting. Back
in those days they had landlines and thing picked up
the other phone, and my dad said, hey, I'd love
for you guys to come in, but I can only
take two. I can't take all four. And they're both like,
and I'm getting this story, it's kind of close, so

(01:09:12):
I think they were. But anyway, my dad said, I'll
take this one and I'll take this one, and it
was Sting and Warrior. So Thanksgiving Day nineteen eighty five
in Hendersonville, Tennessee. You know, on Thanksgiven days back in
the day, I hear a knock at the door and
I could look down over the balcony from a second story,
looked down the front door. Opened the door, and I

(01:09:35):
was on kind of the landing. My dad open the door,
and that's the first time ever laid dies. I was
a junior in high school and Sting drove cross country
and he started wrestling for my dad in nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
That's a guy's that really cool story.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
And it's yeah, and I say all that to say
that at T and A Sting we called in a
favor him and my father. He came and worked for
us when we were literally a startup. Then he came
on later full time when we got up and run it.
But uh yeah, me and him go back to nineteen
eighty five, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
And two final things. The face paint is the greatest
thing to conceal age for anybody because when he would
come out even still and he's in black and he's
got the paint number two spray t hey, I can
say that too from my when I have to freaking
get on TV all the time. That span is a plus.

(01:10:24):
I gotta have it. But yeah, I know the face
paint for or masks, yep, you know mysterio. You know
I haven't Matt because you never get older, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
It's uh, yes, what do you like about Sting? Like
why do you like him so much?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Blonde Sting was my introduction really oh oh oh yeah
by far Blondsting back in the day day yep. So
Blonde Sting was like my introduction into wrestling. And then
that's kind of when I started to play sports and
so like I would wrestle like with other dude, this
is weird to say we would like wrestle, And I

(01:10:59):
was like, oh, I can kind of play sports a
little bit. And see was my favorite stort like emulate him,
which then kind of gave me confidence to play other sports.
So it's kind of that. It's a weird. It's a
stupid story. It's like a loser story. Like I was
rusting other boys and I'm like, I can use but
Steing was like the guy I would like do is
because anybody could do the Scorpions flash or the death
Law all that. So that's why I love story. No, yeah,

(01:11:22):
I'm lame. No, I'm so lame. I'm so lame. Final question,
people will ask you to record a video or a picture.
Does anyone ever want you to hit them with a
real guitar? And You're like, I can't. I'm not gonna
hit you with the real guitar really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I'm asked that more than you real imagine. Yes, and
I'm reluctant. I'm not on cameo, but yeah, people want
me to hit him with the guitars or do this
or do that. Yeah, I did a thing last summer
a reverend. He's a young preacher.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
For the baby reveal, we put blue and pink, Yes,
and I hit somebody over the guitar.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
But I had to be a guitar. It's our guitar
that was crafted enough to fall apart easily. But I'm
saying I would imagine idiots would be like, hit me
with this guitar and it's a really and that it hurts.
I mean, that's like, that's a whole different ball game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I was over in London and a guy, I'm like,
I'm not hitting you with that. He says, here's money.
I said, I'm not doing that. He said all right,
here's more money. I said, dude, this won't break. It's
going to knock you out. Please hit me with it. Okay,
But I never.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Did follow real Jeff Jared on Instagram as I do
appromote your podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
My World with Jeff Jarrett drops every Tuesday morning doing that.
You know, I told the guy, my partner, Conrad Thompson, no,
for about two and a half years, I said, nobody
wants to listen to my stories, and he goes, trust me.
I'm very excited that I did it. And we've been
going about two and a half three years and record
just recorded yesterday, and you know, we talk a little

(01:12:58):
bit of stuff for the first twenty thirty minutes and
then we get into a wrestling story, whether it's a
pay per view or specific wrestler, a timeframe, all kinds
of different topics, but it's a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
And then we're gonna find out because you're next to
the last match as we're live as tomorrow, so it's
going to be yesterday when you're next to last night,
we're having one more match. You're not saying what it is?

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
Oh no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
I signed a I re signed last month December and
it's and I'm not going to give you the term
of it, but it's more than a year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Okay. Okay, you said promoting final match after this, so okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
No, I'm what I said last week in Ashville, Bobby was,
I've signed my final talent contract and won't get into
terms and all that kind of stuff, but this is
the final one. But as far as signing it, I've
made a goal. In twenty twenty five, I'm gonna win
aw gold. It may happen this month, it may happen
in December, but this year. You know, that's a fifty

(01:13:58):
seven year old man win an a your gold does
not happen, and I'm a fan and I'm gonna try
to make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
I really had to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
I'm gonna really, I really am. I mean, I think
it's just crazy enough. And it was based off because
my wife was like, are you sure you want to resign?
And I got five kids and they were like, Dad,
you're gonna hang this up at some point. You know,
my oldest is twenty eight. And I'm like, okay, and
I've heard this for a couple of years and I
just kind of said, Okay, this is the final contract.

(01:14:28):
But I use the old analogy that my father told
taught me that his grandfather taught him and said, Hey,
if you ever want to climb a tree, don't get
under the tree and figure out how you're going to
get to the first branch, get away from it. Figure
out how you're going to climb to the top, and
you'll have the most success in life. So if I
don't get eight of your gold, I'm still trying to
get it. I'm gonna have a ton of fun. I

(01:14:49):
don't want to just pick up a check. If that
makes sense, I'm going for it all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I'm a massive fan. I love when you come by.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
I'm gonna have scuba giving myself one number two. You
live here, I follow you. We should be friends because
I would love to. I would, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Believe me, I am going to work.

Speaker 12 (01:15:05):
I am.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
If you knew that was when and when you said that,
I'm like, what, YEA, I will fly if he I
will fly to him. We will set up we I've
tried so many times, and I don't want to put
the burden on you to do that. I just he
because some people are like I don't know if you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Would love you, tell that he would because look, he's
he's been around and dealt with. We won't leave names,
but you know clickbaiters. Yea, hey there, and Sting has
a storied career, but what can will he not Hogan?
Will he not a B and C D wrestler? And
and Sting is just he's not, I mean in real

(01:15:43):
life but obviously in professional life. But in real life
he ain't about that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
He is because I ain't either. I ain't about that either.
I get my opinions. But well, Jeff, thank you man,
and thank you. I like to hang out with you
in real life someday. And I don't ever say that to.

Speaker 7 (01:15:58):
Anybody, but I think I think we've me. He doesn't
say that anything anybody, No, never, nobody.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Hey, you know what I heard that he does something
with baseball's Oh yeah, did you sign it all for us?

Speaker 6 (01:16:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
But since when you spoke last time, I'm involved in
uh wood bat It's it's minor league baseball, it's the
college kids. So I'm a part of ownership group up
in Springfieldlinois of what team of what was Springfield Lucky
Horseshoes is the name of the team, the wood Bat League.
And then we just acquired our second club over in Quincy, Illinois,
but in the baseball world. So when the folks out

(01:16:29):
there said, hey, you got to sign a baseball and
instead right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
On, that's news since I was last time entrepreneurs, have.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I told you?

Speaker 10 (01:16:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
I just told the story out there. You don't remember
the gift y'all kick lunchbox out that week filled it's awesome,
ye okay. So in my office at home, I've got
I remember giving Yes, I remember, would you give me?
Do you remember?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
It was goofy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
It was like, okay, yeah, what a conversation base And
I'd tell it, are we over time you're were wed?

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
No time you can, I would say, for two hours
with you. I want to keep you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
So tell the story, but real quick. So I've got
belts and all kinds of memorabilia of Jeff. I got
a Jeff Hardy painting and a couple of different things.
But over on one of my guitars, I have the
action figure and it's signed. He signed it for me.
You don't remember this.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
I don't remember it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Now, okay. But in twenty eighteen, I'd just done the
Hall of Fame and I'd gone back and down on
one off. But there's a guy named Elias arrest of Elias,
and you signed the figure. And so people will come
in the office. I have a business meeting, and the
look around and that's cool, Jeff, and look at that
collect the cup, and then they'll look at me and go,
what's the deal with Elias figure? My man, Bobby Bowe,

(01:17:42):
whole thing on social You your entrepreneurship is second to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Well, thank you for coming in. I hope we didn't
keep you too long. Let's get him. Let's get the belt.
Get the belt and bring it in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Oh that's my bucket.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
And Sting you the man, Jeff, you are the man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Oh no, I'm working on Stinger.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
You guys follow go listen to Jeff podcast. Will put
in the show notes for you guys to go and
search for it and love that you're here and hope
to see again soon.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
Jeff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Appreciate it, man, Really do playoffs? We're talking playoffs? Yeah,
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NFL and the first two episodes are out. It's called
Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Mattcastle
played for Kevin's team, the Patriots. He got famous because
he had to fill in for Brady the whole season,
one of thirteen games. I think he didn't make playoffs.

Speaker 13 (01:19:34):
Yeah, and the crazy part is, fifteen years whatever it
is later, he's probably the best quarterback we've had besides Brady.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
That's crazy.

Speaker 11 (01:19:40):
Do you think about that?

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Eleven and five right?

Speaker 12 (01:19:42):
Yea?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Whoever he was?

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Did he win eleven games or thirty? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
I think because they didn't make the playoffs, like the
thing the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
The Dolphins, and that made him famous because it wasn't
his play although he did play pretty well, but that
he was the one that had to go on for
Tom Brady Game one of that season.

Speaker 11 (01:19:58):
After the undefeated season.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
The year after, well almost undefeated, didn't go totally.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
There was that game.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Yeah you didn't get Yeah, you don't remember that one.
So it's uh, Matt and myself and we've had a
couple of great guests. We had Kurt Warner on Hall
of Fame quarterback wasn't drafted. I think I forget that
sometimes he seems like a cool guy too. It was awesome.
I mean they made a movie about him.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Yeah he did, and you know, your big time American underdog, so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
It's called I watched it. I thought it was a
little corny, little Hollywood. I don't mind Hollywood, little lifetime
ass that's what it was. I did like it, but
it was that movie wasn't made for It wasn't like
Friday Night Lights for the hardcore football given Sunday. It

(01:20:45):
was made for somebody who doesn't spend every Sunday dedicated
and dial dent. And I think it was a great
movie for who it was made for. When you're a
hardcore sports fan and you're like, well, that didn't only happened.
That never happens like that. But that's only if somebody's
watching sports all the time. So when I say corny,
like to me, us would have been like, that doesn't
quite happen. That's biopics with music does us all the
time too, Like the Queen One little corny, but he

(01:21:08):
was good, But you're like, they didn't quite happen like that,
And for timing reasons, they had to get famous real quick.

Speaker 14 (01:21:14):
But it is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
My wife really liked it. It's a good movie. Really yeah,
check it out. And so we were talking about playoffs,
and for me it was the Lion's offensive coordinator. He's
gonna be a head coach and it's got to be
weird to know you got to put a staff together
right now as you're also trying to win a NFL title.

(01:21:36):
So we talked about that and what type of mentality
routine he had going to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
So here he is. This is us.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
It's five minutes of us talking with Kurt Warner. Talk
about the human nature part of this. Like Ben Johnson,
offensive coordinator with the Lions, who's you know, didn't head
coach last year. He said, I want to stay. I
believe in the offense. I'm gonna stay with Detroit. Great decision.
He's killing it. He's gonna have whatever job probably he wants. However,
these jobs are open right now. Interviewing right now, he's
not interviewing because he's but still, you're a human, and

(01:22:04):
it's like that's got to be on your mind as
well as you enter. And I looked a few minutes ago,
the Lines are favored to win the Super Bowl. They're
the number one team right now as far as like
the odds, Like that's the human part of That's got
to be difficult for somebody, right, I.

Speaker 12 (01:22:18):
Would I would think so like I don't really know,
you know, especially when you know you are. We use
Ben Johnson as that example. It's like you've never been
a head coach, So this is like your moment, your opportunity.
You got to be ready for these interviews. You've got
to be thinking like, Okay, if the season's over and
I get one of these jobs, like who's going to

(01:22:39):
be on my staff? Who am I going to take?

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Like yeah, and then all of that while.

Speaker 12 (01:22:44):
Whatever your normal schedule is to prepare and create and
build a game plan. I mean, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know how you balance it. I mean, you
know we always said as players too, like you know,
family was kind of that other side of it, talking
about Ben Johnson a head coaching spot and is current
like for us it was or for me it was

(01:23:05):
the family, Like Okay, so this is the amount of
time I'm going to spend, you know, preparing for football,
and then I need to shut that off and try
to you know, be a dad or a husband or
or focus on family over here and it was really
hard to do. You know, it was hard to you know,
for those things not to get all mixed together and

(01:23:26):
me thinking about football when I should be at home,
or me thinking about you know, family and something that
was going on when I should be at football and
balancing that out.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
So I would have to.

Speaker 12 (01:23:35):
Think that would be a huge I mean, I don't
think you can, you know, if if somebody's calling me
today and going to do a you know, head coaching
intergy interview with me today while we're getting ready for
a playoff game a week and a half from now. Yeah,
I mean I think you're fully focused on, Okay, how
do I get this head coaching job? You know, what
do I need to do and how do I have
everything in place? And your current team has to take

(01:23:57):
a little bit of a back seat in that regard.
So figuring out that balance I think has to be key.
But I think you're one hund percent right. Human nature
is going to say, Okay, I'm going to lean towards
you know, I'm going to have to lean into both
of them and probably take some time away from you know,
the current task at hand for the future task at hand.

Speaker 14 (01:24:18):
You played in a lot of these playoff games, and
we are having this discussion before, but Bobby was asking me,
how does it change going into playoffs, like your mentality
and you know that the intensity goes up tenfold. But
were you one of those players that had a specific
routine and tried to stick to that routine not make
it bigger than it was? Were you also one of

(01:24:40):
those quarterbacks? Look, I hated that feeling I used to
get before the game. I always got those knots in
my stomach. Oh, would overanalyze, do all those But once
you got out on the field, you get hit for
the first time and you start to process and you go, hey,
this is just football. I got to be reactionary, rely
on my preparation what I need to do. But what
type of mentality do you have going into these type

(01:25:00):
of weeks?

Speaker 12 (01:25:01):
Yeah, playoffs was different, And so I was one of
those guys that was really good at focusing. And so
my kids still joke to this day, like, you know,
even if I'm if I'm sending you a text, Matt,
and my kids are in the room with me and
they're like, dad, dad, Dad, I don't hear them because, like,
I'm focused on what I'm trying to say to you
in the text, and I just tune out all the

(01:25:24):
other noise and they're like, Dad, we're trying to get
your attention, Like all you're doing is texting. But I
had an uncanny ability to focus, which obviously a lot
of guys at our level in sicily playing quarterback with
seventy thousand people, you know, have that ability to focus.
But during you know, the normal week, it would come
about three thirty four o'clock on a Saturday afternoon and

(01:25:44):
my wife would be like, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
He's in the zone.

Speaker 12 (01:25:48):
Go to the hotel, go to your room, like get you, Like,
no reason for you to be around anymore, because you're
you're a different guy. When I got into the playoffs,
it was always like I had to tell my wife, Okay, honey,
I know in the past, you've given me twenty four
hours forty eight hours. Now I need four weeks. Like
I'm not going to be a good dad, I'm not
going to be a good husband. I am locking in

(01:26:10):
for the next four weeks and it's going to be
all football, and it's all focused on trying to win
a championship and then we can celebrate and go on
trips and do that afterwards. But it was really that
kind of change for me, Matt, where it was like
I could never get it off my mind and I
didn't really want to, like I didn't want to separate
it at that point, Like I knew it was all

(01:26:31):
about the regular Season's great, but the regular season was
just setting me up to have a chance to win
it all. So once we got into the playoffs, that
was it. Like everything else is gone, everything else is
pushed out. I'm sorry, but this is my focus. And
you know, and just like we were talking about the
split focus and bound, I wasn't even looking to balance anymore.

(01:26:53):
My mindset was, Okay, we're playing Sunday. I am not
taking a minute off in terms of my prep so
I can be the best that I can be on Sunday.
And you know, obviously my mindset was, I want to
do it for four weeks because it's going to end
up by us being in the Super Bowl and hopefully
winning it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
So thanks to Kurt, listen to the full interview in
the full episode, it's called Lots to Say. And in
the second episode we had Tim McGraw, big sports fan,
cool guy. Matt told a story about San timagaw work
out in the weight room when Matt was with the Chiefs.
He walks into mcgrals in there.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Yeah, we talked to LSU and how they feed Tim
scores while he's doing a show. Here's a few minutes
of Tim McGraw with myself and Matt Castle on our podcast.
Lots to say.

Speaker 5 (01:27:32):
I've actually been to one of your concerts.

Speaker 14 (01:27:34):
I was in Kansas City and I remember I was
down in the facility one day and it's before the
day of the concert, and I walked down I think
it might have been a Saturday or something like that,
and you're in the weight room getting after it, I mean,
and so I walk in. I just see this guy
and he's ripped up. He's got his cutoff shirt. I
think you were wearing a bandana on your head. And

(01:27:54):
I asked, I asked my strength the conditioning coach. I said, hey, coach,
who is that? He's like, dude, that's Tim. He's getting
after it. I was like, I can see that. I mean,
is that something that you do on tour? Is that
something that just because I know obviously you're always in
shape every time I've ever seen you, But is it
something you go around and anytime you can get a
workout in, you do.

Speaker 15 (01:28:14):
Yeah, that's part of the routine every day. Yeah, and
most of the band guys too. It's just part of
our everyday routine. And it's been that way for gosh,
fifteen years now. We don't feel the same if we
don't get a workout in during the day. And we
have a gym that travels with us, and it looks
like a prison yard out but we have ropes and
chains and tires and everything outside the bus, and so

(01:28:36):
we get in two or three workouts a.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Day when we're on the road.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
All right, let's get it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Let's get this.

Speaker 15 (01:28:40):
Say it keeps us out of trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Put it for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Yeah, it feels time, all right, and here on the
road there's a lot of freaking time. Okay, we're gonna
get personal here and see how you feel about this
last season. LSU Brian Kelly, I don't know. A lot
of people have lot of stuff to say, Tim, what
do you gotta say?

Speaker 15 (01:28:57):
I don't know, man, Look, that's just such a tough
gig anymore to coach college players, I think with all
the new money coming in and these guys don't list
I don't want to put anybody down. I'm not trying
to say that college players don't listen, because I don't
know them that well. But I can imagine trying to
be a college coach where you used to have a
complete control and everybody doing exactly what you say and

(01:29:18):
when you say to do it how you say to
do it, and then you got these guys now that
are not that I'm against them being able to eat
and make money. It's not that I'm four or against
any of that stuff. It just seems like it makes
the job of coaching tougher in that environment, because it's
tough enough in the NFL when you're dealing with grown
men with careers and making business decisions every day about

(01:29:39):
their career and how long they're going to be around
and the things they're going to do, and what's good
for them, what's good for the body, what's good for
the team, That calculus and that alchemy that all comes
into effect. I just think that it makes it really
tough to coach college football these days, and it takes
a really strong personality to go in there and do that.
Brian Kelly's a great coach now, who knows if his

(01:30:00):
style is going to work with a team like LSU
or not.

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
It is wild. I wouldn't want to be a coach
right now.

Speaker 14 (01:30:05):
In college football with the NIL the transfer portal, you're
you have to recruit people you go into and I
I mean in the transfer portal to recruit more guys
that come in. But in addition to that, you got
to recruit your own players. Every single year, these guys
come in and say, hey, coach, look, if you want
me for the ball game, I'm gonna I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
Need another two hundred grand. You know, like that's that's
the nature of the beast now.

Speaker 15 (01:30:25):
Right, And then how do you do that as a coach,
and how do you how do you do that as
a coach, and how do you do as as an
organization and a coaching organization and still be able to
let later your game plan down. Put these guys in
a position to win, put these guys in the right
mindset to win, make these guys play as a team.
It's just tough all the way around. And look there,

(01:30:45):
it's people are going to evolve with it. Coaches are
going to evolve with it. The coaches are going to
learn how to do it in a different way, I'm sure,
but but there is a curve that's going.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
On right now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
I don't want to reveal the great Mighty Oz. So
if this's the secret that you don't feel like sharing,
I'll start. If I'm doing a stand up show to
theater or even in my television contracts, if Arkansas is
playing football and I am working, or if it's a
night game, I'll have a small screen and on a
monitor I will have And because I can't watch a
game recorded, it doesn't exist. A recorded game I cannot

(01:31:15):
go to afterward because I can't it's on my phone everywhere,
So I will have a monitor at all times so
I can watch the game. If there is a big
LSU game team and you were on stage, how are
you getting information fed to you through my ears?

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Through my inner monitors?

Speaker 15 (01:31:32):
My guy Heath on the side is always telling me
to score. And he also used to do that when
my kids were in high school and one of my
daughters was a cheerleader, so we went to all the
high school games and we were really invested in Amsworth
High school football, so we tailgated and all that stuff.
So when I was when I happened to be on
stage and there was a game going on. I was
getting fed scores right in the middle of songs. So
if I dropped the word.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Because I'm happy about the score.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
Do you have an NFL team as well?

Speaker 14 (01:31:59):
I mean, I've obviously your ties to Nashville, maybe the Titans,
but I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
I mean, who's your who's your NFF.

Speaker 15 (01:32:04):
I root for the Titans, of course, because of being
in Nashville and I and I root for for the
Eagles because I have two brothers that live in Philly
and my of course, my dad played ball in Philly
and spend a lot of time there, and I grew
up in Louisiana, so I'm still a Saints fan at
heart as well.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
This will always be my baby, this one right here. Yeah,
this is it. But I bet it's pretty cool to
say you signed a sign a deal with the NFL.
That's my favorite thing to say. Ever, it's my favorite
thing to say.

Speaker 7 (01:32:30):
It's pretty cool, dude. I would be telling everyone sign
the NFL and then leave it like that, Yeah, walk
away doing what. Don't worry about what we think? Why
do people why why do people sign with the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
You tell me so, yeah, check out lots to say
if you don't mind, and yeah, pretty cool. Okay, before
we go, who's the upset? Give me the upset that wins,
even if you don't believe one really will if you
have to be an upset to win.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
We're talking both sports, college and the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
No, I won't do college.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
It's just the NFL, right, you know what, Jimmy an
upset and anything in general?

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Yeah, don't you can't do the game last night though,
right right?

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
Or that's cheating because they both.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Won and lost.

Speaker 5 (01:33:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Yeah, yeah, that is Schrodinger's cat.

Speaker 11 (01:33:16):
Okay, cool, I'm gonna go Texans.

Speaker 8 (01:33:19):
Yeah, I mean I'm gonna go Steelers just because I
feel like, I don't know, everyone's been talking down on them.
I feel like they could they could rise up.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
Is that an upset?

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Nine?

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
They're a nine point dog, they're probably.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Far less set.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
Oh okay, so they win it, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Yeah, yeah, say scenario with it. So you're saying Texans
beat the Charger.

Speaker 11 (01:33:35):
Yeah, I think that's pretty much a coin flip. You
don't really know.

Speaker 13 (01:33:38):
I mean, the Texans aren't playing very well right now,
but they're still at home and they can beat the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Chargers, and they always play three thirty on Saturday. They
kind of make them play crazy. It's like twenty eleven,
Wildcar versus Bengal, Saturday, three thirty. Wildcard versus Bengals twenty
twelve Saturday three thirty, twenty fifteen, Waldcar versus Chief Saturday
three thirty. Wildcard versus Raiders Saturday three thirty, twenty sixteen,
twenty eighteen, Waldcar versus Cold Saturday three twenty nineteen, Walkcard
versus Bill Saturday three thirty, twenty twenty three, Walkcard versus

(01:34:04):
Brown Saturday three thirty, twenty twenty four, Wildcard versus Chargers Saturday,
three thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
Wow, shout out Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
I have no NFL has no respect for it. Houston
television bedtime slot.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
Did you find that like yourself or do you see
that somewhere Mike?

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I oh, Kevin had given me all. I knew they
played a bunch of three thirty games, but Kevin gave
me the whole list all the way. All that's crazy, Yeah, crazy,
Eddie A man, I.

Speaker 7 (01:34:26):
Feel bad even thinking this because I'm going against our parlay,
but I feel like the Packers could probably beat the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
They did it last year. I think that's one, and
can I do another one? So you get one?

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
Okay, Packers, that's the one. That's the one.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
I'm gonna go with Texas to beat Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
I see what you're doing now, Yes, I see, I see.

Speaker 7 (01:34:54):
I'm packing Texas there for Suggara when yours yours is
going casey ketches on quick.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
They're only a six point dog. They got the athletes.
You know, Ohio State's gonna see these guys come out
of the tunnel and be like that bar orange looks tough.
We're playing them, Oh exactly. So my underdog to absolutely win.
I bet at all Texas man, but the house, Yeah,

(01:35:21):
let's go. There's no way that's going to happen, trust me.
Let's go. Horns spelled w h O r n eh.
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Nothing nailed it?

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Let's go Horns. Uh did you have one you wanted
to do? You don't have to go. I know you
probablyn't even know who's underdog and tonight, how about Commanders.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
That's good? That my second one?

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:35:42):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
It was a small I think it was like what
plus three? Were they plus three?

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
He looks at the screen. Tampa's minus three right now
plus three every pick one.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Hey, okay, before we go, this will be the inconclusion
part of the show. Hot take revisit from the preseason
when we first started this show. Cool, I love these,
I've got hot takes them all four, Casey, Eddie, Kevin,
and myself. These are things when it was like, hey,
make your hot take before we start. We'll start with Casey. Yeah,
not good, says there will only be one team from

(01:36:17):
the NFC North to make the playoffs. Three of the
four made the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
Ye, backfired.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
We didn't expect the Vikings to be awesome, to be fair, yeah,
although we did think the Bears would be better.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Yeah right, I thought the Packers would not be as good.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
But so who did you think the one team would
be the Lions?

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Okay, so Casey swinging a miss Kevin. The Chargers win
the division and Jim Harbaugh wins Coach of the Year.
Not a huge mess they did. They didn't win the division.
He probably won't win Coach of the Year, but he'll
be top three or four.

Speaker 11 (01:36:50):
Yeah, they had a good year. They made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
I agree.

Speaker 11 (01:36:53):
If the Chiefs weren't in that division. Maybe it's a
different story.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Right, good job.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
So again, he will not win Coach of the Year.
But it's not like he's for he sucked, so I
would Casey, I give you a D. Kevin, I give
you a B minus. Still, all right, all right, I
haven't even looked at mine yet. I don't know what
mine is because I'm like you, guys, I haven't looked
at mine yet.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Eddie, dude, your's this hilarious? So wrong Cowboys, No, Edie.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Eddie's hot take was he believed a certain player was
going to have one of the best years of his career,
and the player on this team will lead this team
to win the division and the conference. Any idea Aaron Rodgers?
You thought that Aaron Rodgers will have, if not the

(01:37:45):
best year of his career, one of the best years
of his career, and the Jets will win not only
their division but.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
The a f C.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
Just give me the just give me the optimism.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
That mine is C. J. Stroud, I said, J. Strouds
mediocre this season. They'll win nine or ten games. Wow,
they finished ten and seven and Shrouds he was mediocre.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Last year we had four thousand passing yards, twenty three touchdowns,
five interceptions as a rookie. Uh this year three thousand,
six hundred passing yards a little less, four less touchdowns,
and seven more interceptions. Give me a B plus.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
Yeah, man, that's really good plus.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
I mean it was a terrible fantasy quarterback too.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:38:25):
Yeah, I don't know, had like two games where you're like, oh,
it's back.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
No, I don't even know we had those.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
So I made the Honor All Cap. Now you win
for two years and I'm trying to We just walked
to Honora. We had the court.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Yeahool, we just want the court on our graduation.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you didn't get the comic.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Yeah you didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
With a little extra credit, maybe we can get to
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Speaker 6 (01:38:56):
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Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
And we'll give you money if they follow. And why
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Speaker 6 (01:39:09):
For me personally, well, it allows me to keep my job.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
That's correct, Ladies and gentlemen, that's very.

Speaker 6 (01:39:14):
Important my job once I leave, and so I don't.
I don't uh you know, live out on the street,
even as a married man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
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part of his job, which is running the socials, and
that's not gonna happen if there's not a following. It's built.
Oh so after because I gave him like eight months
to build something, got it? Yeah, So he guys, he's
asking if you fall, even if you don't want to
watch the video. He just asked me to follow. That's
wrong with that, right?

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Not fair?

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Oh yeah, just just go follow up Bobby Boned Sports,
Thank you guys, thanks to Jeff Jarrett. And there's no
news on the super Bowl yet. I mean, we only
have four tickets. We're not gonna have five, but I
haven't or yeah, what no idea on the game yet.
Why don't know he's playing?

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
No one knows who's playing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
Kevin to do a tournament for.

Speaker 11 (01:39:55):
We're talking about us.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Know what happens is they've been seeded, Yes, they have
to plays in the one seeds are not playing this week.
The Lines and the Chiefs and the rest start this
week and they'll play and the winner moves on. So
anybody that loses, wile since the Patriots have been they
will not be in the super Bowl they lose this week.
But anybody that wins this weekend you have a chance
to see at the game. But Kevin, wait, don't worry.
This whole process is fun to watch. It's fun. So

(01:40:16):
just hang in there. Okay, we don't know about the
game yet. Okay, just have faith that there will be
two teams at the end. Yes, all right, good enough, Okay,
good buddy, all right, that's it. Thank you guys, Addie
Bowl the Westler Girl. We'll see you guys Monday next week.

Speaker 12 (01:40:30):
Bye, Boddy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
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