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Speaker 2 (01:14):
This is a podcast call twenty five whists stuck in
fun ball and they aware whist So, yeah, it's too bad,
but what did you expect?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's a podcast call twenty five Whistles.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Twenty one with the show what the that's my that's
my job man own the whistle. You do it most
times because I'm already thinking about what to do. Oh okay, Yeah,
there's a guy who was shot and killed after a
dispute over a jukebox song.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Which one was it?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh? You think it's about the song. I feel like
it's probably about the disrespect more than they're fighting about
a song.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Usually that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I kind of didn't want to know what song that.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Was, though, well, I can get it into the story.
I didn't even read about the song because I figure
one of them plays a song, it doesn't matter what
it did, but the other one wants a song, it
doesn't matter what it is. Yeah, and it's just a
disrespect issue. But a guy's dead after a dispute over
a jukebox start turned violent at a Mexican restaurant in
Fort Lauderdale. Oh no, the argument.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
So they were.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Drunk alcohol, yeah, and then for sure disrespect.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
One man insulted another over his song choice on the
music machine. Quote. I heard that there were two guys
and they got into the argument because one of them
played a song and the other guy was pissed off.
The guy got insulted, pulled his weapon and started shooting
the other guy. Dang broh, they don't talk about the songs, margaritas.
The altercation escalated quickly. The man who insulted this song

(02:40):
allegedly drew his weapon first, but the other man near
the jew box firebacks. They both had guns.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
This is the wild West.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
It sort of feels like like they walked in those
swinging doors by balloon, because that's because again, they both
happened to have guns. Right then they just pulled him
out for a lot of Police confirmed the identity of
the victims, fifty four year old Sikoro Camacho. He's still
investigating in the shooting. No song mentioned here. It wasn't
even about the song.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, no, they did. They they got mad about the
song choice, it said.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
But it was mostly about the disrespect. I was an
assault of the song, right. I was WSVN dot com
the story.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
I was at a bar one time and I played
What did I play? It was like, uh, one of
the Rocky songs?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Because now not Covin had no one is that that one?

Speaker 5 (03:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
No, no coming?

Speaker 4 (03:26):
And some guy and there was so upsetts who put
Rocky on?

Speaker 6 (03:29):
And I'm like, what did? I did not raise my
hand like I was gonna be like I did. I
didn't think that was so controversial. Rocky everyone loves.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
I feel like there was just something going on with him,
and maybe or maybe people play that song all the time,
because I was shocked to see it on the jukebox.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
First off, it also could have been done done survivor
the Tiger.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
The Tiger. Maybe I don't remember. It was a few
years back.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
Few is that James Brown one where Rocky three Rocky?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know, maybe like ten.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Years ago, probably longer. Huh maybe was he here in Tennessee?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Now I was back in Texas, so it had to
be longer. It's years.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's our thing with our age. Now everything seems three
years ago. I know that's not good, and it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Everything seems two thousand, no five.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Everything A couple of things that I want to talk about.
We can do the U and l V thing first,
and I think we've had a couple of days now
for it to happen. But the are you familiar with story?
Quarterback quarterback decides, Hey, I'm gonna go ahead and check out.
I didn't get the money I was promised one hundred
thousand dollars. So and everybody has come out with their
side of it, like the school's like we never promised

(04:38):
him that that's not in writing. The collectives like we didn't,
and he's like no, an assistant coach and the dad.
Everybody has their side, and I don't know that I
see a specific side that's proved one way or the other.
Who's telling the truth. But there are a couple of
things from this. It's the if the dad is this involved,
this is his fault, because unless you have something in writing,

(05:01):
nothing really exists. Unfortunately, Yeah, so as the adult as
the responsible person, because that dad seems like he's involved
in this now he is now, so maybe he was
then I assume he would be the kid. Was he
recruited holy Cross?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
What was he recruited or was he a freshman when
he went to UNLA.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, he came from holy Cross.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
He is a transfer.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So I would assume that something, whoever the adult was,
was involved in this screwed up. You can never have
any sort of monetary agreement and expect it to hold
true unless it's in writing. So that's number one. Number two,
this is the greatest thing to ever happened to college
football because I've said forever there needs to be absolute

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pandemonium for there to be any rules that are made,
like it has to prove that it is so broken
for anybody to step in and actually form it in
a way that seems to be healthier for the sport.
So speaking of the Wild West, that's what it kind
of feels like right now with NIL, with portal with
because there are no rules and regulations. As a matter

(06:03):
of fact, it keeps getting less and less rules in regulations.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
But I can't think that college football or the people
behind all this didn't think that, hey, let's start paying
college players' money and let's not have any real regulations,
and they thought it was just going to be okay, but.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
You didn't hear what I just said. It slowly pilled
itself back less and less rules. There was never a
day or they went. All the rules are gone. The
case goes to the Supreme Court. The Obanon case about
a video game. Right that happens now players can't get paid,
which they should have been paid all along. It's so stupid.
What's the difference in paying for a scholarship of a
kid or giving him money. He's getting paid.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Cash money different to the school.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
There's no difference. So because other people have to pay
their own cash money.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
To get that.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
So it's a value, right It'd be like, okay, we
won't give them an I a own money, will give
a gift card. Well that's a thing, but it's not.
It's the same thing. So with the billions of dollars
that these schools are making off of these kids, I
think it is absolutely right that the people who are
creating the income make some of the income. But they
just didn't go one day, everybody can transfer and everybody

(07:03):
gets paid, not at all. The portal happened like five
or six years ago. It was a slow roll. All
of a sudden, the transfer, and people didn't really know
how to use it. The nil happens because the Supreme
Court they then are married to each other, because then
people would get in the portal because of the ability
to be paid. So there was never a moment where
a board sat around and went like, surely this won't
end bad. The onion just kept getting pilled back little

(07:27):
and little by little until because everybody takes advantage of
it rightfully, So we all do. We all take advantage
of everything we're given to the max that we can
take advantage of it, even like at work, like how
much can you get away with actually not working?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Taxes due?

Speaker 7 (07:42):
Not me?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
No, no, go out of your mind.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I didn't see people, do people?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Hey, look at my stuff. I'm clean.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Here's my point. My point is this, we need absolute
disasters to happen, so rules and regulations that make sense
now are kind of dictating what college athletics is. We
need this, we need this happened ten times, the crazy
things happening now because this story happens. I loved it.

(08:12):
I love to see Mayhem, but.

Speaker 8 (08:14):
It sucks for you and LV it really does. And
Coach Otem friend of the show, Coach M's awesome.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Here's a forty percent passer who gets crap. They their
backup quarterback almost just as good. Okay, my point is
we needed this to happen. We need more of this
to happen. The new thing that's happening is if you
play in four games, I believe it is a rule
you no longer can red shirt. So fourth, so you
can play three games, but if you play your fourth
you no longer can red shirt. So some of these

(08:42):
student athletes are going, I'm three games in. I've played
in three games, but I'm not really making much money,
and I don't want to waste a year because I
only have four years of earning potential. So I'm gonna
go ahead and go I'm gonna red shirt.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
They going to do it once, so they can't. It's
not like they can transfer everything. You can only read
shirt once. So the Bear kid from USC is doing this.
They get the kid that he went to Georgia where
is like recruited to Georgia, big recruit. Now he's at USC.
He's like, I played three games, I'm transferring.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
Four games up to four games. Yeah, and then Notre
Dame kid did this too. In a corner he did
same thing.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, no, this is going to happen all over the place.
It's not surprised, I'm sure since we recorded this because
it's that time of the year. It's about it's the
fifth game, fourth game, whatever it is. That a lot
of kids and it's not a bad decision. It is
within the rules. So why would you not do it?
If you're an athlete that may not go to the
NFL and what nine percent of them do some crazy
stat where it's not that many, why would you not

(09:37):
take advantage of the four to five years where you
actually can make money off of your athletic career while
you're going to school. Like, I'm not going to fault
anybody for doing this because it's within the rules. Where
I would fault somebody as if they were doing it
and it wasn't that like they found a loophole. This
is not a loophole. This is right in the rules.
And I'm never gonna hate on somebody for going to

(09:58):
get their money like people that do that and like
you're just a quitter. I don't know what happened with
that you and you know, yeah that's different because of
I don't even think it's different I don't know what's happened.
I've talked to people on both not really both sides,
but I've talked to people who are in the program,
and I've talked to people who are based I'll just
call him reporters, And everybody kind of has a different story.

(10:20):
And if the kid was promised one hundred thousand dollars
and wasn't paid it, that sucks. And the problem was
it wasn't in writing. Yeah, but let's say it was
and it wasn't. But let's say it was. Anybody's promised
something in writing, they don't get it. I would quit too.
It's a job. So I don't hate somebody for making
a business decision. Ever, Will this decision hurt him in
the future if he ended up making it in a

(10:42):
very sloppy, reckless way, Yes, but that's the risk you
take whenever you make a business decision. This is a
business decision where I can like the college football is
romantic and you just stick with your team, but don't
deal our jobs. If our job sucks, we're not getting
paid what we're promised, you leave or you get fired.
That's so we shouldn't attack hatch a different emotion because

(11:04):
we romanticize college football. This is the only time this
kid is not gonna play in the NFL. This is
the only time he's ever gonna get paid to play football.
So why would you not maximize that the best possible. Well,
the reason people get mad and the people who do
get mad or either people who are never gonna make
money play sports or people already have their money, because
if it was you in that situation, or you're a kid,

(11:25):
you're treated completely different. So I'm not gonna villainize the kid.
I'm gonna villainize the adults around him that didn't get
it in writing, because nothing is real unless it's in writing.
You can handshake all day long.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
And those are the good old days, man.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
But see it's people that say that too. They hate
on college football for all the changes.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Good old days.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
You shake someone's hand and be like, all right, man,
I will pay you tomorrow, and they pay you.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah. So I'm not gonna hate on the kid. We
need things to go really wrong for a while before
somebody steps in to fix them, because otherwise they're just
mildly broken. And who cares about something mildly broken? If
your car's making a noise occasionally you ain't taking it
in good even the check engine, Yeah, you ain't taking
it in. Ain't taking it in. If smoke starts to
come out or you break down, you get it fixed.

(12:12):
We need smoke to come out and for it to
break down so that there's a bit of regulation too.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's happened.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Got to hate rock Bottom, Yeah, that's what I would say.
And so I need we need more of these stories.
If you're gonna see a lot more people red shirting,
and it's if it's your team, you're like, what a loser? Yeah,
but you got to put yourself in that same exact place.
They're making business decisions. They are in a business. They're
a business. Their teams are businesses. The schools are businesses.

(12:38):
So good luck to that kid. It's gonna be tough.
He's like the first one to do that. Also, I
feel like if UNLV really wanted to keep them, they
had just paid them one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I feel like that's pretty easy for them, right.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I mean, think about what's one slot machine pool, They're
right down the street. I mean, think about though, how
much a Mountain West a shot at the Mountain West
title or a college football playoff appearance was worth millions
and millions of dollars. So if you felt like he
was something that would keep you from it or allow
you to get closer to it, Yeah, just paying one

(13:12):
hundred thousand possibly a playoff, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
you just pay one hundred thousand bucks. Yeah, so the
investment is well worth it. So unless you don't think
the investment is worth it, which obviously they had decided
it wasn't. I don't know this, but one of the
rumors you pribaly saw online was like an offensive assistant

(13:33):
coach just promised it to him. They didn't want to
put it in writing because if you put it in writing,
such and such rules come into play. If that's the case, well,
the risk you take by not letting those rules come
into play is that it's not in writing. And if
they want to go now we're good, they go now
we're good. But also, if that assistant coach really wanted you,

(13:56):
it was important he'd find the money. So the collective
have the money. They're paying three grand a month, so
he was. He's making thirty six grand a month anyway,
so they need to pay another what sixty four thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'm not gonna hate on the kid. That's a business.
It's not elementary school. It is a business. We have
to remember that. If we were there, we do the
same thing.

Speaker 8 (14:20):
So who is a kid that wasn't there? A quarterback
that went to Florida, he never started the season, didn't
get his money.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
He comps some millions of dollars. Yep, nowver got his money.
Peace out. I'll do the same thing if I'm committing
somewhere because of something you're to If I'm gonna go
work for a place because they're telling me you're gonna
have your own office, We're gonna give you this salary,
you're gonna have your parking spot. And I get there, there
is no parking spot. I don't have an office, and
I'm only making a fraction one. You just lied to me.
Why would I work here? You're out of your mind.

(14:47):
So we should look at that in the same way. Well,
we roll a man in size college football, therefore we don't.
But we shouldn't as much because it's business.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
It does suck for you on LV though they're coming.
It's just a distraction. Now for the pretty good season
going to.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
A historic season, Yeah, or it galvanizes you see things
that way. Well, I'm just saying it doesn't have to
be a complete distraction. I saw some of the players
now going finally.

Speaker 8 (15:13):
Like, yeah, this's had to be going on for Yes,
that's what I was wondering, like week to week, is
he telling himself, all right, you guys got one more week,
one more week.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I'm sure this did not come as a surprise to
anybody that was in the central core of that program,
And the sources that I have were not surprised at all.
And I've heard different slight different versions of the story
from like four different people. So there's no need to
worry about who to trust orho's telling the truth. It exists.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, people are.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Going to take advantage of the rules as they are
it is allowed. We would all take advantage of any
rule we were allowed to do extra in if it's offered. Yes,
for sure. Let people make their money. Don't hate on
people for making their money. That's it. People love Tell
people how to spend their money, people love it, don't
There's no need. So I just wanted to comment on
that thing's been out for a couple of days. I'm

(16:05):
glad it had. There's been some days to live with
it where it's been in the news, and I've called
some people because my initial thought was, Okay, if they
promised him that money and they didn't give it to him,
it doesn't matter where he works or what he's doing.
I also would have left you lied to me and
said I was getting this if I come to do that,
regardless of what situation. But then he didn't sign anything,
and I'm like, oh, it's a parent's fault unless we

(16:27):
find out he did sign something. But they're saying, okay,
so there's that uh fever did not win, So not
going to the game. They came, they were down ten
or eleven, they got they took the lead. I think
they were up one with like four minutes left. They
came back from eleven down. It was awesome. Can't le clark,
but they were. They had two people on her the
whole night, so low disappointing because I had courtside seats

(16:50):
for Game three?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Can you reserve those for next season?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't think it's a reserve thing. I think it's
like the movies where you go on.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
You're like, hey man, so we're not gonna make the game.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Avatar two and next week the guy know that's Joey
g the executive was like, dude, we'll do it again. Okay, awesome.
So yeah, that happened. I put a one hundred bucks
in the Bengals won the Super Bowl because the odds
have gotten real good.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
When'd you do that?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
After they lost the third game because the odds were
like plus twenty four hundred or something, and I was like,
they're I think they'll end up making the play. The
Steelers I win in that division right now. I don't
think they're gonna win that division. So when it's not
a team that you expect to run away with it,
there's a little room there.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
So they are zero and three. I think if they win.
I think if they go nine to eight, they get
in the playoffs. And I think they're better than a
nine and eight team just generally, so you get in
the playoffs. It all starts over Joe Burrow. That's one
of the quarterbacks I would take in my first four
picks if I were having a new quarterback draft. So
I put one hundred bucks to win, like sixteen hundred

(17:53):
hundred boe nice, and I put it money on any
other one three team, but I feel like the Bengals,
the odds got so bad that it was worth a
hundred dollars investment.

Speaker 8 (18:00):
I gotta say, I don't think i've ever heard you
say I put one hundred bucks on it.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
No, good job there.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, that's pretty good, very low.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's a low amount of money. Wow, totally, that's something
I would do.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, no, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
You put dogs that's put one hundred dollars on anything.
Super Bowl, super Bowl like flexing for no reason to flex,
you don't put a hundred buck on But also I
wasn't going to bet a thousand on it because they're
owing three. No, I know, but still like one hundreds,
Like all right, are.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
You saying he's maturity a little bit?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well yeah, yeah, sure, No, there's no maturation because I'm
only getting richer. Let's be honest, he's got the money. Yeah,
I'm saying. My business decision was I don't want to
put a bunch of money in own three team because
odds are they're not going to win the Super Bowl
regardless of who it is. But when they do those
stats like only nine percent of teams that start owing

(18:51):
two what they're not factoring in is there are two
new playoff teams now, so that that really dicks with
the percentages. So we're used to be eight, it's now nine, right,
No it' what is it now seven?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's seven teams.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
It was six, it was six, now seven, thank you.
So they're two teams on each side. So and also
that division with Pittsburgh leading the division, I don't think
they're going to win that division. Baltimore struggled, Cleveland is terrible,
and Cincinnatis on three. So with Baltimore not you know,
they fight. Baltimore one beat the Cowboys, right, got their
first win. They're only one game over the Bengals, and

(19:29):
those two teams are still going to be the two teams.
Probably they're fighting for the division because I don't think
Pittsburgh's good enough offensively. So that's why I made that bad.
You guys may put more on it now.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
No, I'm not saying no, I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I think it's like I'm like, dang, he only bets
on hundred bucks two that's cool.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Oh you're like him?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
No, I don't ever do one hundred. What is your unit?
Show me your unit?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Whoa, WHOAOA.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Off camera? What is your unit? What do you mean
by that? Like my top?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Like do you bet okay?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Five?

Speaker 8 (20:05):
I usually do five bucks? Okay, so on a single bet,
and then if I do, then I think the most
like I really really will push.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Unit would be a normal standard bet. If you're just
bet in one unit would be what it would That's
why people sometimes don't talk about money. They talk about
many units they bet because everybody's money is different. It's
all relative to what they bet. So if I were
to bet five units, that's probably my unit is one
hundred bucks. So if I'm just gonna throw a hundred bucks,
that's just a normal I feel okay about it. But
I'm going to bet it. Okay, I feel pretty good
about it. You do a three, I'll do a ten

(20:33):
unit bet on some that's a thousand bucks, right, okay?
So a unit is like your normal. I'm just gonna
bet it's my standard, and then you measure it by units.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
So yours are probably fives with your description, Yes, Eddie's
is one.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Well one on parlays. I'm a one dollar parlay guy,
so that's not really my unit. I think if I'm
going to bet one game straight up? It's five bucks okay, Oh,
unless I have money in the bank, I'll go ten.
So that's two units though, right, So yes, but I'm
feeling good. I got to put two units on it.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I feel like Casey knows a lot about gambling because
I feel like he's just sitting over there, He's going, yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
I feel like he's got you know, Bookie, Well, that's
just kids from New York.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
You forget about it.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Did your dad? Did your dad gamble?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
He gambled on horses? O t b Hey, for sure.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
So did you grow up in a sports gambling house
at all?

Speaker 9 (21:27):
Not?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Really?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Did you bet? Because I went to the horse trike
a lot as a kid, sneak in, get adults to
bet the money for you. The two dollars minimal bet.
So I went to the track a lot as munch kid,
a bunch whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, we used to do that because Belmont bell Mount
Steaks is like right around the block for us a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Do you bet now?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I do?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
But yeah, I'm like a fight dolar unit thing.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I used to be a five dollars. It's all relative
to where you are.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
When were you a five dollar?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, they didn't really have sports like my buddy, we.

Speaker 10 (21:57):
Don't talk about that, buddy, read what did your unit?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I stop with my units? Man, Yeah, but when I
did have a unit, it was like twenty five, So
that's why I stopped. Just doesn't lose like he loses,
but he doesn't lose over there's no overall loss. Everybody
loses a little bit inside of a series of bets.
But like if Read's around, like good things just happen.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
That's because it's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I guess patient it's weird. H Okay, why don't we
go and do the tittle Tattle? Let's got his name ever?
The tittle Tattle.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
Following our visit the Stone Colds Ranch, if you can
get in the ring with any current or former wrestler,
who would it be?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
By the way, shout out Stone Cold see Boston on Monday,
we put out the full hour episode. We put out
the too Much Access, but we do the full hour
interview Monday on the Bobby Cast. My favorite wrestler of
all time is the blonde haired Sting. So I've tried
to meet Sting. No luck, So it'd be Sting because
I've never met him.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
That'd be cool.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
When I wrote my first book, I wrote inside of
one chapter like people I looked up to when I
was a kid, and in that word Sting the wrestler,
Mark Grace, the baseball player. And I think Sting just
found my book or somebody told him about it and
he just signed the page it was on and mailed

(23:18):
it to me. What Ing, no note, nothing, Hey, maybe
he read it, though probably not. And I think he
just signed over his name and they just sent the book.
And I remember just getting the book in the mail
at the radio station and like, why did somebody just
send me a generic book? And I was flipping through
it and he just said, I don't even know where
that book is. I do have a Sting autograph, but

(23:42):
it's Sting the singer that I bought thinking it.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Was that's funny. I can see how that can happen.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
So it would be Sting stone cold. I was in college,
so he was massive and awesome, but I didn't look
up to wrestlers as much then, where it was like
this person's awesome. It was like man sold as legit.
That makes sense. Yeah, as a little older, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
That takes out.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
So yeah, I go Stinging the Blonde not staying the
dark haired Sting. I'm trying to think of sin. What
another difference between Sting the blonde? Well, no, no, same guy.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but but the version was one, yeah,
like dark.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Really colorful pants. I'm thinking of a different state. You
want to face paint. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of it.
But the blonde Sting had bright colored face paint.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Was one a villain and one a good guy.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
They were dark haired. Sting was mostly a good guy.
He'd flip a little bit, but he was based on
the crow. Yeah, this is a thing, Brandon Lee. Yeah,
what are you looking at? This is the Sting I'm
thinking of with the white face paint, and he was
with that the longest, but when he was blonde. But
it's the same stingyame guy.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Yeah, I didn't know he'd been around that long because
I watched that Sting as a kid.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Black hair, black hair, the crow Sting Yes, the crows,
sorry yeah crow, Yeah, no it Beasting's my answer. Okay,
thank you for asking.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
All right?

Speaker 8 (25:04):
Do you think there's more pressure on Kirby Smart to
win the Big Showdown this weekend now that Saban has
gone from Bama?

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I did see that Bama is underdog for the first time,
so it's like the Civil War at home, which is
not really civil war but like the nineties or something.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I know it.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
So, I mean, Saban was Kirby's kryptonite, but it was
always like, here are all Saban's coaches, none of them
can beat him. But Kirby did a bit. But Alabama
is the only team to defeat Georgia since twenty twenty,
and that wasn't the SEC championship, So Georgia hasn't beat
in a conference game. That's why that Kentucky game was
so weird. And Georgia is playing Kentucky would have been
the first in season game for them to lose. I

(25:42):
don't think so. Mostly, I think if the College Football
Playoff didn't exist, the answer would be yes. But I
think any pressure is met by you can lose one
or two, and if you're Georgia, you lose one or two,
you get in over another team that lost one or
two because you're Georgia. So I think they can lose
this game and be fine.

Speaker 8 (25:58):
Can I second that question? Then that make it less
intriguing to you this game because of that than it
would in years past.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't know. I don't think it's less intriguing. I
don't like it. Whenever it is like, you lose, your
season's pretty much over. That sucks.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
What if that was what the NFL was like, that
would suck. Oh yeah, I wouldn't be out.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I'd never been on the Bengals one hundred dollars. So no,
I'm interested in the game. I'm super interested in the game.
That's fun. But when people are like it runs how
like how important the game is early in the year,
I kind of hate that it all could revolve around
one game in Week three or four. I think it's
pretty stupid. Actually, So no, I'm into it. I like it.

(26:38):
I don't think the pressure is on them. I think
if it were, though it's met by, It's okay. We
can still get to the college football Playoff with two losses.
I think they can lose this one and lose the
SEC championship game and still get in. Would else?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
All?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Right, which NFL coach do you think will get fired first?
I mean it's probably Doug Peterson, right, I mean that's
it's slowly more and more and more and more. I
mean that their owner con was like, it's the greatest
Jaguar team I've ever had. It sucks. I really need
trouble once to play well fantasy. Nah, I got a
bunch of rookie cards. He should just cut his hair though.

(27:12):
His hair is not good. Yeah, and it's bad luck now,
but it's just not good. It's like stringy. It's like
where I come from. That's the kind of hair everybody had.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Is it because he's getting older because he used to
look really good?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I didn't even like it really is. It's not really
good there. He has long hair. It's fine, but it's
just straight, super straight. Yeah, it's it's too straight, like
guys rather have a perm Yeah. Either put some put
some texture into it, or cut it no wave or nothing. Yes,
no way, I agree. Yeah, I've always been like, why
does he cut his hair? It doesn't look good.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You're coming from a fashion point, like I just.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Need a little texture something. Is that too much to ask?
And it's got like a like spaghetti noodles? Yeah? All right.
I think Doug Peterson probably goes in season if they
lose in two more games. Probably in season. You know,
I was reading We're Yeah, I forget which owner it

(28:01):
was was talking about why you don't fire a coach
in season, because when you fire a coach in season,
even if the team is playing horribly, if you fire
them in season and the interim coach does a pretty
good job, everybody screams they want the interim coach to
be the new head coach. But it was just because
a new jolt of energy and the play where then
the owner's kind of like pressured, like Antonio Pierce has
that now with the Raiders, and I don't know if

(28:22):
he's gonna be a good head coach or not, but
that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
They made he was awesome when he interroomed, when you
filled in.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, so I The Kevin Stefanski thing is weird because
you know, he's been Coach of the Year. The brown suck,
but he's a really good coach and if he were gone,
somebody would immediately grab him. Yeah yeah, like he's a
great coach. Yeah, so he's the same coach that. I mean,
flat goes are quarterback and they do they need Watson

(28:53):
a goal away.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
The whole thing is just crazy bizarre.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
It's like, I guess just Watson is just not into
football anymore. I think there's just so much you know,
controversy going on in his life that I just feel
like he's just too distracted to want to play.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
He's also aged, he's aged too, but I don't know
that that's all of it. I think you're right. I
think if you had all these charges in settlements and like,
why is he going to stand in the pocket and
get crushed these guys? Like but also it's like, you
only have a couple more years to make your money,
and if you've signed the deal and it's all been guaranteed,
I get it. I'm gonna tell somebody to step away
from one hundred million dollars one hundred and fifty million.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Dollars to cut him. It's like the cap hit is
like I think, yeah, something like that. Yeah insane.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, But could it be like every money, all the
money I make, just goes to these allegations.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Well, I don't. I think those settlements were not disclosed. Well,
then new ones came out a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
So he makes more money. He's like, well it goes
to that.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well no, but what if he doesn't make any more
money and he's still got to pay You're making that money,
so you can pay these I.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Wonder if there's like a legal loophole for the Browns,
where like, if he gets in trouble for these new accusations,
maybe they can have to pay him.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's what they're probably hoping.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
For, right They from things that I've read, they're looking.
They keep saying they're looking back into the contract, which
means they're trying to find a way. One line, it's
it'll be the biggest dead cap hit ever. He's gone
over the worst contract of all time. Yeah, I mean
Russell Wilson this is the other.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Second, this will be first was an all guaranteed I
guess No, I'm saying Russ's cappit. Yeah, like that's the
that's the leader in the clubhouse right now for biggest ever. Yeah,
it's true.

Speaker 8 (30:27):
All right, Next question, All right, last one after an
zero to three start, or your Bengals the most disappointing
teams so far?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Your Bangles, they're surprising. I don't know that they're disappointing
because I I'm doing the Super Bowl somemer right shift
up put on that talking through the games. I think
the Jaguars are probably in my mind if I'm just
going from the most disappointing. It's not going to be
Miami because they lost their quarterback. It's not going to
be San Francisco. I'm disappointed their players aren't playing. But

(30:56):
there's a difference in being disappointed because people are injured
and disappointed because you have your full arsenal and they
still suck. So you have McCaffrey in Germany having to
go to a European Achilles specialist, like that ain't good. So,
I mean, that's real bad if he's having to fly
to another country. We have good doctors here, great doctors exactly.

(31:18):
The Bears are interesting because it looks kind of like
a train wreck over there, especially with everything we heard,
like it's going to be the easiest arrival for a
rookie quarterback. Ever, there are still times where Caleb thinks
he can out run people that he can't, like when
there are these Russians are coming in and Caleb thinks,
from a standstill he can get away from them. It's
a different it's a different different world. Now becauesn't much faster,

(31:39):
but he's gonna learn. What's the Bengals do? Yeah, they
played the Chiefs. Chiefs in that game was Patriots games,
terrible lot go ahead.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
Patriots and then they just lost, and then they shouldn't
have lost to Patriots.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
The Patriots the Commander's game was weird because nobody ever
punted on both sides. All they did was score all
It's so it's like the Bengals offense is doing what
they need to do. The defense just didn't make a
couple stops. So in the Chiefs game, they were in it. Yeah,
And I'm not making excuses for the future Super Bowl champion,
but that's why I'm not completely distraught about the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Division matches yet. So they have all those.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
They've been in it. Yeah, so I'm going I'm going
to Jags. If Miami doesn't get a quarterback, what are
they gonna do? Yeah, they have nothing. They lost Tua
now they lost because he's out right this week too, Tua. No? Oh,
Skyler Guyler pretty sure?

Speaker 9 (32:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
So is Boyer the starting quarterback Boyle Boyle whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
His name is Boyer and Boyle combined, yes, or because they.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Did end up signing snoop.

Speaker 8 (32:46):
Yeah, it says uncertain about Skyler Thompson Boyle or Tyler Huntley.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, start it's Huntley, right, and Hunty played well when
Lamar was out. That's tillte thank you stupid? His name
ever the tone? All right, want a streak? You guys
want to do the parlay? Yeah, okay, Uh take Arkansas

(33:13):
plus four? Are you getting it out?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I would take Arkansas plus four. I would take Oklahoma
money line. I should take Arkansas off this. Why I
just make two?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's too you hit the last one.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
I know it's two. Auburn sucked. That's why Texas A
and M not great. Not a great team, but they're fine.
Pull Arkansas into this. Okay, Oklahoma is going to beat Auburn.
I can't believe Oklahoma is only a two point favorite
even though they're at Auburn because we played at Auburn.
Auburn sucks. Hugh Freeze is a dirt bag too. By
the way his he went on, it was like we

(33:54):
played them nine more times. We beat them nine times.
Who says that after a loss? Even if you feel
that way, that's a loser talk.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
You want the money line in Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I take Oklahoma money line. I take Kansas state money
line over Oklahoma State. And I would take Georgia money
line at Bama.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Could just pass that one. We go back Georgia money line.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna do all three money lines like it.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Okay, I'm not gonna say anything.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Looking for that Oklahoma game, not the Oklahoma State game.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
They're at Kansas State, Oklahoma State at Kansas, Kansas State.

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(37:21):
Right now, we're going to talk with head football coach
Eli drink Witz. Eli became the head coach of the
Tigers in twenty twenty. They're ranked eleven in the country.
He was the SEC Coach of the Year last year
and really turned the program around. I'm a big drink fan.
Shouldn't because Missouri and Arkansas rivals. I love him. He's
from Arkansas, like coach at Arkansas Day, went to high
school in Arkansas, like big Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Seems like a cool dude.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, we liked him. Huh yeah, I like him a lot. Yeah,
so here he is coach drink Witz. Let me ask
about bye weeks because I know what why players like
bye weeks? Why do coaches like bye weeks? What will
you do differently?

Speaker 3 (37:52):
First off, you get to just take a deep breath.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
You don't have this constant churning in your stomach like
you know you got something on Saturday. It's going to
determine the happiness of about six and a half million people,
including yourself, and you get to kind of be normal,
like My daughter had a volleyball game last night, and
so I got to go pick her up from the game.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
When the bus got back.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
I'll get to go watch my daughter's T ball games
on Thursday night. Saturday, another daughter's got two volleyball games
in the morning, so you got you just kind of
get a sense of normalcy, and it's just a little
bit of a time to take a deep breath. I
think from a football standpoint, you can actually work on things.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
You know, it's easy to say.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
Hey, we got to get better this week, but when
there's a game coming and you have all this game
planning stuff you have to do, there's not a whole
lot of just moments where you can focus on fundamentals
and improvement because you've got to get the schemes in
for that week.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
You've got to get the preparation in.

Speaker 7 (38:51):
But in a bye week, again, you don't have an
opponent on Saturday, that opponent yourself, so there's really more
time to focus in on Hey, this twenty minutes of
practice is going to be specific to getting better. Five
minutes on third downs, five minutes on team run, five
minutes on motion adjustments.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
So that's probably the best thing about it.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Do you double scout the teams? Like, will you spend
a good two weeks? I know you guys have A
and M coming up, will yeah? Do you like coming
off a bye week because you have put an extra
time or is it just still Are you spending more
time doing fundamentals and you're doing the same amount for
every team?

Speaker 7 (39:24):
It's really both. So like today is Tuesday, and so
we will work just on ourselfs. Tomorrow we'll spend some
time on a future opponent that's not named Texas A
and M, who's in this next four week segment. And
then on Thursday we'll turn our full attention to Texas
A and M. So we will get maybe a day

(39:44):
and a half ahead of our opponent, you know, but
we will also get a day ahead on another opponent too.
I don't like to practice too much for one team.
It's like you ever sharpen a pencil too much and
that edge is a little too fine and you push
it on the paper breaks. I think you can get
that way with practice for one opponent. I think you can.

(40:05):
You can overdo it, so to speak, because no matter
how much you're going to practice, they're going to have
a new wrinkle, and so you've got to be prepared
to adjust.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Are you the bell of the ball in Columbia? Can
you grocery shop?

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I can grocery shop. You find it funny?

Speaker 7 (40:22):
The other day I was I was driving my car
to stop light and there were two college aged students
who had their phone up next to the window taking
a picture. And I just looked at him and was like,
if you'll just tell me, I'll smile for the picture.
I'm always worried that they're going to catch me picking
my nose or something while I'm driving or singing to myself.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
In the car.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
But I'll say this, I don't let it affect me
one way or the other. I just know I got
to wear a hat when I go to the grocery
store instead of going all wild and free.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Talk about Brady Cook for a second, because he's been on.

Speaker 7 (40:58):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's a you know,
I've been around some really good quarterbacks, have been privileged
to coach several that have gone on to play in
the NFL. But Brady might be my favorite, just from
the standpoint of he's got everything. He's got leadership, he's
got accountability, he's got toughness, he's.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Got playmaking ability.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
But there's something about a kid who just works really
hard to be the best that he can be.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
And that's really Brady Cook. I mean, he works. Nothing
was given to him.

Speaker 7 (41:29):
He's not just the most gifted player. He's really had
to work to become who he is. And I mean,
I hate to say it like this, but he's like
the American dream man. He's like Rocky Balboa to an extent,
where you know, he just keeps betting on himself and
keeps delivering.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I had a caller call the show and they were
doing a paper on grit and she was like, she
got through the phone lines and she said, Hey, would
you talk about what you think grit is? And I
think my career has been more based off perseverance, right,
like not doing a very good job and getting up
again and doing it a little better and a little better,
because I've naturally not been that gifted at anything. How

(42:09):
would you define grit? And who are a couple of
your grittiest players?

Speaker 5 (42:13):
Man?

Speaker 7 (42:13):
I love that you asked this question. Gritz the stubborn
refusal to quit. I mean, that's all it is. It's
just you refuse to give up, and it's passion plus
perseverance over time, Like what are you willing to endure
to accomplish what you want to accomplish. I think Brady
obviously is a great example of grit. I think Cody
Schrader last year was an extreme example of grid. I

(42:35):
think when you look at this year's running backs, Marcus Carroll,
Naatean Nowell, those two guys are really gritty players who
had to overcome a lot and bet on themselves, refuse
to give in to the outside noise to achieve what
they want to achieve. I think Johnny Walker, defensive end
for me, came in at one hundred and ninety seven pounds,
had four wisdom teeth taken out within the first week

(42:56):
of him being here. Now he weighs two hundred and
fifty six pounds. Was the MVP of the Cotton Bowl.
It took him four years to really earn significant playing time.
But instead of pouting, instead of trying to go into
a different situation, he just said, I'm going to sustain
excellence every day and that's.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Really what you have to do.

Speaker 7 (43:17):
You know, we have We had a group of Navy
seals come in and they said, winning is reserved for
those who are willing to pay the price. And that's
kind of our thought process this year, like what price
are we willing to pay to win? And you've got
to be willing to outlast people. You've got to be
willing to to sustain it even when it's not going
your way.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Coach, at the end of the game, you know, I
see the two coaches go and they meet each other.
What can you possibly tell each other, especially if you've
lost the game?

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Like what's that conversation like? Or do you are you thinking?
Like what am I going to tell him? As I
walk up there.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
You know, I've had some awkward conversations with the head
coaches across the deal. Honestly, you know, when you're the
winning coach and you're going across the field to the
guy who's lost, you realize and know how much pain
they're in right then, And really, all I'm trying to
do is give them some some sort of like comfort

(44:14):
or something, because man, the hardest thing to do is
to swallow all your emotions and then go in there
and address your team.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
So that's really what I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
When whenever they're they're saying something to me after they're
whipping my butt. It's usually as quick as I can
just shake their hand and try to gather my thoughts
and emotions before I address the team. But you know,
I have such a tremendous amount of respect for the
head coaches in this league. You know, it's a it's
a fraternity of really good men, and you know, we

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don't always get along, we don't always agree with each other,
but there is a level of respect there. And so
you know, when you get a chance to visit with
another SEC head coach, you always treat it with a
little bit of respect.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I think a bit. The pre game would be awkward
if you're expected to talk and you don't really like
them or know them. Like we have guests in studio
and there are you know, celebrities that either I don't
like or I don't know them. We have to like
do small talk for like six minutes before this, and
that's torture for me. And I got to imagine just
the human nature of it there. That's probably the same situation.

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So the pre more than the post. The post you
can get out over, but do you have to go
talk to the other head coach before the game.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Well, apparently you don't have to edit.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
Ordron didn't come shake my hand before the first time
we played them, and that was really the first time
and only time I've ever had that happen.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
So I guess you don't have to, but you're supposed
like that's the thing you're supposed to like, yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
Mean it's kind of a you know, it's kind of
a sportsmanship deal. I tell you when I come into
that the most is when you have to do the
Friday pre game media because there are some media that
you know have been taking shots at you or you know,
shots at your team, and then you got to go
sit there and act like you're going to be buddy
buddy and give them all the information that they want

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to ask. So that one's always the one that you're.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Like, yeah, yeah, what if it's like, uh, I'll use
me for an example I've had, and I make no
everybody knows I'm a massive Arkansas supporter and booster and
involved in everyone, and so I've been a little underwhelmed
at our coaching decision, especially the Oclhoma State game, the
u AB game, and I've been the Sunshine pumper for years.

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I believe I believe. And this is the first year
that I've publicly been like, man like, I don't feel
like our coaching really got us to a good place
to win. And I've said that, but I've been like loyal, loyal, oil.
If you were to see somebody like me that said that, like,
would you know? Would you do? You think Piman knows
that I've said such things.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
He's probably cognizantly aware because of the influence that you
have over the state of Arkansas and the fans. And
I would just say this, man, Bobby, Look, it's natural
to say, yeah, there's like for me, I screwed up
right before half. I went forward on fourth down. Should
have never done and that end up call three points.
I think if the coaches make the attempt to acknowledge

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the accountability, like hey, I screwed it up, I think
that should with the fans make sure that they understand, like.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Okay, he gets it now.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
If they don't get it, if they're being stubborn about it,
if they're saying like they got their head in the sky,
then obviously people can say what they want. But I
think coach Pipman's doing a really good job in a
very difficult circumstance. And I think obviously the Travis Williams
at defensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
I was a GA with him at Auburn. I think
he's a tremendous coach.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Obviously, coach Patreno's a really good football coach, and they
did an excellent job in the portal, So they're going
to be a really good football team this year.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
I'll just say this.

Speaker 7 (47:38):
As fans, it's easy to criticize and critique, but everybody's
growing into being the best version of themselves as a team.
I think you got to give them grace and positive
momentum as long as possible.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
And when it comes to the point that you can't,
you can't.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Everybody individually has to make that own decision. But whatever
happened last year or the previous year, the previous momentum,
and that's totally different. It's about this year's team and
this year's journey and the opportunity for them to develop
their own identity. And you know, I saw that Oklahoma
State game. There obviously were some things that people could

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be critical of, but the thing that I saw was
a team that kept competing, the team that made mistakes
but found a way to be in the game for
all the way up until, you know, until the last play,
and that's the sign of a team that's getting better.
So I would just encourage you. Man, they ain't that
far off. They're They're a tough, gritty team, which is
why they were able to beat Auburn.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
You know, I don't know if they'd do it nine
out of nine times or anything. I don't have an.

Speaker 7 (48:39):
Opinion on that, but I thought they were a really
good football team in that game.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
I watched that game yesterday.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Actually, I'm being guilted now. I've just been guilty. I've
been guilty. That's okay. What's that like, not being under
the radar, Because now you guys have an expectation to
win if you have that big number by your name
and people are watching.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
I think it's been a justing for us. I think
obviously that's something that we needed to address. Specifically after
the game Saturday, I just felt like there was hesitation
both within the coaches and the players playing afraid, afraid
to fail, afraid to lose. And you're never going to
be the best version of yourself being afraid to fail.
You got to go for it, you got to cut
it loose, and whatever happens happens. You got to believe

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in yourself that you're tough enough to handle whatever adversity
or success is going to come your way. But you
can't try to guide the ball into the strike zone.
You can't try to guide the ball into a player.
You got to just go cut it loose. And so,
whether it's me, whether it's coaches, whether it's players, we
got to not worry about the rankings.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
They are what they are. We got to just go
out there and do the very best that we can.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Final three questions, are you superstitious? If so, what do
you do? What are they?

Speaker 7 (49:49):
I like the answer. I'm not superstitious, but I'm a
little stitious. So I absolutely keep the same pregame meal routine.
I absolutely keep the same Friday clothing routine. We have
a thing called Boots Thursday where we wear boots and
jeans on Thursdays. Very much adamant that I got to

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do that.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
So I'm not, like I said, not super but there's
a little bit of the right. It goes along the way.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Coach, you said that you watched the Arkansas game two
days after you guys played. What is your routine like,
are there like five games that you would have watched
on Saturday, but you were playing and then you'll watch
them later.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Is that what you do?

Speaker 7 (50:31):
Yeah, I like to watch future opponents. I like to
watch high output offenses. I like to watch defenses. I
get a cut up of all the explosive passes from
the week.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Before in college football.

Speaker 7 (50:45):
So you just try to stay on top of trends,
or you try to stay on top of issues, you know,
just listening to all the stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
You know, Auburn talked about their ability to really move
the ball but had a lot of turno. So I
wanted just to see if that was my.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
Sense of it from watching it, And wanted to see
what t Will was doing defensively because we're going to
play him later. But then I wanted to see, you know,
I think coach Matrino is one of the best offensive
mines in college football. To just see what he's doing
and have seen the way he's developing a game plan
around his quarterback, to see if there's just anything that
we could borrow. You know, football is a game of

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borrowing other people's ideas to see if they can apply
to what you do. And so, you know, I do
that with a lot of different people, but it gives
you kind of a trend of what's going on in
the game.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Final question, coach, if you're struggling emotionally mentally, who professionally
can you call? Who's your mentor.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
Well, you know, there's there's a couple of different people
that I can reach out to.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
From a spiritual standpoint.

Speaker 7 (51:49):
There's a guy in Boone, North Carolina named doctor Dick
Furman who's been a really a person of great character
and integrity for me for the last six years, and
the highest of highs I can expect to get a
text from him that says t y L which stands
for thank you Lord or the lowest to lows I
can get a text from that. It's going to say
thank you Lord, because you just realize that you're blessed

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to get the opportunity to do this and you realize
that your future is in his hands and not to
get caught up in the anxiety of it. From a
coaching standpoint, you know, Coach Malson's obviously a guy that
I can reach out to that we exchange ideas back
and forth from.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
So there's just different people like that.

Speaker 7 (52:30):
But in the but in those two situations, those would
probably be the first two phone calls. You know, sometimes
I'm not quite as quick to call Gus because you know,
he's still the guy that I ga for it, so
he'll tell me that that's pretty dumb.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
You know, that's pretty what is your problem here?

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Man?

Speaker 3 (52:48):
But that's good to keep me humble.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Coach, congratulations on on and whatever happens to year, happens
this year, but really fundamentally turning the image of a
program around. You've done a fantastic job, fan, and good
luck the rest of the year, except for one game.
I'm really rooting for you.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, hey, I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (53:06):
I appreciate all the opportunity to be on this show
because I'm being from the state of Arkansas and watching
your success has been really awesome, and so to have
an opportunity to be on the show, you know, and
if y'all could ever figure out that fifty to fifty
raffle deal on t.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Start his coach, don't even get it going went another
half hour, Coach, All right, well let him go, Coach,
good to see you. This is much out with Texas
A and m head coach Mike Elko coach in his
first year as head coach of the Aggie, spent two
years at Duke, turned that program around. Aggi's are three
on one in the season. They face off against my
Arkansas team this week. But uh really happy coach all

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co desided to come on here. He is coach Mike
Elko from Texas A and M Hey, coach, Hey, how
are you pretty good? Hey? Do you often wear like
a jersey because that's how I coach. He's got like
a jersey show. Yeah, it was like a jersey shirt
with a hood, like, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
That's that's my That's kind of what I go with
most of the days.

Speaker 9 (54:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I have a question about when you went back to
A and M like, did you already know what part
of town you wanted to live? Because we live in
a like an industry sports and also like media where
there's a bit of moving, and I think there was
an advantage to having lived in a college station before.
Did you know the part of town you wanted to
go back to?

Speaker 9 (54:17):
Yeah, it certainly made it a lot easier. It was
also nice the first day I came to the office
because I actually knew where I was going.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
That's the first time I've been doing that in my
life too.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Did you have a bunch of A and M stuff
that you had it unloaded yet as far as that close.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
No, you know, so I've never doubled back before.

Speaker 9 (54:31):
So we've always had this method of taking everything we
have and giving it away on our way out of town.
And so I kind of maybe regret a little bit
of some of the stuff I gave away. I had
some good stuff I wish I.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Had back whenever you're making that decision, because you took
that Duke program and turned it into a real player,
and that'd something to be proud of. I mean, I
think a Duke is a basketball school, but I didn't
think of them just as a basketball school. You know,
in your years there, How hard was that decision to
leave a program that you had built in a power
for Power five conferen the time and go back to

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A and M.

Speaker 9 (55:02):
Yeah, I think it's really difficult, And I think when
you get to the top of it all, it's even
harder because your your decision affects the lives of so
many people. And so, you know, you got your own family,
which obviously matters a lot, but then you've got the
families of everybody who came to the Duke to work
with you and for you. You got the players, and
so it's not just you know, surface level, Hey, do

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I want to be the coach at A and M
Or do I want to be the coach at Duke?

Speaker 5 (55:26):
There's a lot more that goes into it, for sure.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Whenever you left, was it you know, possibly I like
to come back here one day? Or do you not
think about that because who knows how anybody's contract is
going to shake out anywhere?

Speaker 9 (55:37):
Yeah, you don't really think about it from that perspective.
You know, you just honestly, anything I've ever done in my.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
Whole career, you just you kind of go to work.
You do the best job you can.

Speaker 9 (55:46):
You don't really think about what's coming next, And as
opportunities come along and present themselves, you just kind of
go through it and figure out what you think is
right for you and your family, and you know, try
to stay true to that as best you can. In
this wild profession that we're in.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Who's been the craziest freak athlete that you've coached? Where
I know you're looking at me now and you're like,
you're a freak athlete. Bobby because'm about to go work out,
Im about to get in the gym, coach right now,
and so who has it been that you have had
where you've been like, Man, this guy is a monster.

Speaker 9 (56:13):
I think if you go back in the past, it's
probably the Marvin Leal who plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers
right now.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
We signed him here. When I was a defensive.

Speaker 9 (56:21):
Coordinator, he was the number three ranked player in the country,
and he had some crazy things he could do, you know,
high jumping and flipping up off the ground, and he
was a six ' five, two hundred and ninety five
pound kid, and so he was freaky athletic. Our defensive
end right now, Shamar Stewart is pretty freaky athletic when
it comes to those types of things too. He's a

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good first off the bus guy and he plays like it.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
My high school coach, because I was only a moderate
to average mid level high school athlete, he would say, man,
you get the most out of athletic ability, And in
a way that was a bit of an insult, meaning
I wasn't that athletic, but I was a pretty smart player.
But he'd like, you really get the most out of that?
What player did you have where that was like they
were a good athlete, but they really utilized every part
of their brain and studying and doing everything right and

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got the most out of it.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
Yeah, you know, I had a safety when I was
the defensive coordinator at wait far As, the kid named
Ryan Janvion, and he wound up starting probably forty six
forty seven games in the ACC, started all four years
as an ACC safety and never really got a chance
to go on to the next level because I think
he maybe didn't have that height, weight speed.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
That the NFL requires or was looking for.

Speaker 9 (57:31):
But he had a phenomenal college career at a really
high level, maximizing I think everything he could possibly do.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
How do you feel about Texas being in the same
conference with you again, coach?

Speaker 5 (57:40):
I think it's great. I think you have this huge
rivalry in state.

Speaker 9 (57:44):
I think you've got two schools that are so close
and are obviously the huge programs in the best football
state in the country. I think bringing them in and
playing them again at the end of the year and
having it mean an awful lot. I think those things
are really good. I think that's what we got to
make sure we don't lose that part of college football,
I think you have. In this day and age of
conference realignment and people shifting all over the place, there's

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there's still something really cool about two teams that really
don't like each other playing a meaningful game at the
end of the season.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Coach, I hate Texas and I'm I'm gonna tell you,
I hate their guts. I hate everything about it. I
hate their color. Hate And I lived in Austin for
twelve years and love individual people from Austin and that
work at the University of Texas. But I'm from Arkansas
and I hate the University of Texas.

Speaker 9 (58:29):
It kind of comes with the territory when you're in Arkansas. Yes, sir,
you don't have a tremendous, you know, affinity for Texas,
Oklahoma and to some degree, Texas A and M too.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I would imagine we don't mind Texas A and M.
I mean, we hate Texas. And my wife's from Oklahoma
and we've I've become very close with to Oklahoma's But
it's like, and I say it when we're on the
air all over Texas, including in Austin, where a show
does very well and that orange just makes me vomit. Now,
do you hate it more once you come into Texas
A and M or did you already go that's a

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pretty ugly.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
So it's really interesting.

Speaker 9 (59:01):
So I was at Bowling Green for five years in
my life, and when I was there, their colors are
orange and brown, and our head coach was adamant that
any time we went out to clinics or meet people
or anything, that we should wear orange because it would
make us stand out. I think we loved and hated
the orange all at the same time when we were
together at Bowling Green, and so I have that in

(59:23):
my past, and then obviously you come here and yeah,
orange just doesn't exist in college station Texas, and so
it kind of turns up the heat on it a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
What's a rivalry game feel like in the locker room?
Because a lot of these kids, maybe they didn't grow
up with as an A and M super fan their
whole life hating Texas. But is it palpable, Like is
there an understanding once they get there they're supposed to
not like Texas or not like Oklahoma.

Speaker 9 (59:47):
Yeah, you know, I really experienced it for the first
time in the last two years at Duke with the
Duke North Carolina game and before that, I probably would
have told you, you know, I don't know how different
they really are games or games, but through that Duke
North Carolina like it was different, Like that week was different.
The way that players responded acted, the feel in pregame

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meetings meals all of that stuff. There's just a different
energy about the room. And then you know, you watch
the game unfold and everyone plays their best, you know,
across the board, and you just see a whole bunch
of kids making a whole bunch of plays, right, And.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Obviously that that rivalry centered.

Speaker 9 (01:00:26):
Around basketball, but certainly kind of expands to every other
sport that gets played. And now you're going to take
that same type of hatred between schools in a rivalry
that's centered around football that hasn't been played in you know,
twelve thirteen years, bring it back Thanksgiving weekend, and then
you know, hopefully have two really highly ranked teams playing
each other.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
And it'll be weird. It'll be something different, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Do you guys have MRI machines there on campus.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 9 (01:00:53):
We're actually fortunate in our university has them, and so
we're able to utilize what we have at the university
and you get our kids in on a drop of
a dime whenever we need to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah, I got to get one tomorrow, but it took
like a week to get in. That's wonder if I
was going to school there. I got an ankle. As
your coach, you know, athlete, you know what it's like.
And so I get this ankle.

Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
I'll tell you what after, you can put me on
your radio show like this. We'll as you come, use
ours whenever you need it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
The way there you go, and that's a long trip.
Coach Eddie has a question for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
You, Hey, coach, what do you know about the twelfth Man?

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Because I went to school at Samuston State, right down
the road from it from College Station. And I was
there at College Station one night and a drunk guy
was telling me the story the legend of the twelfth Man.
Where back in the day this you know, the team
didn't have enough players to play, so they pulled a
guy out of the crowds and I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Play and they played. They won the game. Is that
even true?

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
Yeah, no, that's that's the real story. Yeah it was.

Speaker 9 (01:01:43):
It was back in the nineteen thirties and the team
had gotten riddled with injuries, and you know, someone from
the student body stepped up to volunteer and be ready,
and ever since that they stand for the entire game
at every football game, the entire student section, and it's
it's kind of homage to that man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
Being ready at all times.

Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
And so now you know, the idea is that the
student section is the twelfth man for our football team
and they stand ready at all times to help in
whatever way they can. Now, in modern football, we have
one hundred and forty players on our roster, needing one
of the students to hop down out of the stand
for us. But now it's it's a really cool thing.
It's a huge piece of Texas A and M. It's

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a huge piece of art history and what we stand for.
And if you haven't been to a game in Kyle
Field or got to see it firsthand, it really is unique.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
It's really special.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Coach, we got to talk about this Arkansas series in Dallas.
I don't like it. It does not feel I like
Jerry Jones liked the Cowboys. The stadiums, it's pretty, but
it does not feel unique or college football. Lee like,
what are we going to do to change this?

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
I think this is the last year, So I think
maybe you just saying it right there, we can say
that's the reason why it's changed.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
I think this is.

Speaker 9 (01:02:57):
I think we're in Fayetteville next year, and I think
we're back to playing on home campuses. And I was
actually during the COVID year, we weren't able to play
in in Cowboys Stadium and so they actually came to
Kyle Field that year, so.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
I was part of one of those games. But now
I think it's interesting.

Speaker 9 (01:03:13):
I think we've always we've always kind of joked as coaches,
like the reason why we're playing this game is because
no one could figure out who's going to tell Jerry
we're not playing there and kind of keep doing it
because that's just kind of how things go. But but no,
I think I think it's both ways. I think obviously
there's something about playing a college game on a college
campus in a college stadium.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
Those environments are really.

Speaker 9 (01:03:34):
Special for your whole community, not just for the football
team but just everybody who comes out to a college
town for a Saturday in the fall. But at the
same time, there's so many Texas kids involved in this game,
and so many of them either grew up loving or
hating the Cowboys because you have to do one or
the other.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
You can't.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
You can't just kind of be neutral in the Cowboys.
And so, you know, I do think there was always
it was a cool idea. There's a lot of excitement
when you play game in Cowboys Stadium. It's a great field,
it's a great venue, and it is it is a
little bit unique. It feels almost like one of those
conference championship games where you have the split stands and
every time there's a good play made, no matter who

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makes it, you know, the crowd kind of erupts, and
so there is a little bit of unique cool part
of it. But getting back on college CAMPUSS soon, I
think we'll be good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
To Yeah, I just want to voice I don't want
to renew it. I don't want to renew it for
any reason whatsoever. Also, because you guys have just been
whooping Arkansas, I don't know it's a bad or it's
been a bad run.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
So so when it comes up again, I'll put Jerry
in touch with you. Yeah, both guys.

Speaker 9 (01:04:35):
You guys are both Arkansas guys, you're both big time people.
Will let you guys kind of get together and you
guys can figure out what the right thing to do is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Don't need to figure it already, got it, already, got it.
I hate it. It's the worst. I was thinking, Coach,
you said, you made a little comment that a little bit,
I'm not supposed to like Texas A and M. And
I'm just thinking I have no issue with Texas A
and M. And maybe because I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Actually, and I was thinking about this. I think I
like Texas AM now because they hate Texas is how
it's your Yeah, it's your enemy's enemy is your friend.
And I think that's why I just had a therapy
breakthrough right now as to why I've always had like
this positive feeling about Texas A and M. And it's
because you guys also want to beat the crap out
of Texas. So it took you to get me there today.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Coach, there you go. I appreciate it. So we've closed
the loop.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
In your life for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
We have fun.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
It's a good therapy session.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Final three questions. Now, do you script any offensive plays
going into any game?

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
Do I personally know our offensive coordinator? Does?

Speaker 9 (01:05:34):
I probably get if he scripts fifteen to twenty, I
probably get one to two. That are kind of my
preferenceer liking, and I get to review it. That's probably
the role that I play. But yeah, I think going
into games, you want to have a plan of how.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
You wanted to go.

Speaker 9 (01:05:49):
You want your kids to feel real comfortable with what
you know. The first part of the game is going
to go. Like, there's so many emotions that go into
the beginning of a college football game that the more
comfortable they are with what's going to happen, I think
the better they perform.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
So what do we think the first few players will be?
Itsmara that Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
Okay, here's what we're going to do. The first one
is going to be a double reverse flee flicker pass.

Speaker 9 (01:06:12):
Let me text this radio running down the sideline, So
make sure you call Sam double let him know the
secret scoop that's played one in the game Saturday.

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Got that? What about defensively? Like, and again this is
about any game specific, but there's no way to script
defensive plays because you don't know what the offense is
going to come out with. How do you get your
defensive players ready for what they're probably about to see
when you don't really know?

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Yeah, probably a little bit more of a challenge.

Speaker 9 (01:06:38):
I think, you know, the best thing you can do
is try to be a predictor of how an offense
is going to try to attack you or what they're
going to try to do. And you know, over my
I think I spent sixteen years as a defensive coordinator,
and you try.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
To get it right more than you get it wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:06:54):
But it's it's it's not easy to try to be,
you know, guessing what someone's going to do against you.
So you do the best you can. Get your kids
ready for everything, and then it's similar. You're just trying
to get them into comfortable, comfortable situations that they know
how to manage until you get a better feel or
beat on what exactly is going to happen as the
game plays out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Coach, did you go to the George Strait concert?

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
I did.

Speaker 9 (01:07:17):
I did my life and I went. We got a
we got a box. It was, uh, you know, my
daughter was with us. So my daughter was there for
Parker McCollum because he's a huge Parker McCollum fan, so
that was an added plus. And then we got to
see George that night, and what a scene that was
in Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Coach, if you ever any tickets anything. I'm your boy now,
like we're we're bros. Just let me know you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Think coaches, you think coach has a hard time getting tickets.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
No, but you never know if it's like his daughter
needs tickets to go to something and he's like, I
don't want to make the car. Like I'm here as
a resource to you. Coach, you're my second favorite team
playing this weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:07:50):
Well, so I will take that, and I will certainly
take you up on that too, because you never you
can never have too many people willing to help you
get tickets to a venue. And so I'll flip it
around and say, you guys ever want to come down
to College Station for a game, I'm your guy. I
can't help you many other places, but I good help
with that here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Coach.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Last question, as far as this season goes, what do
you tell your guys? The goal is obviously it's to
win the conference. But do you talk college football playoff?
Do you talk se championship, do you talk national championship?

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:08:18):
I honestly this is going to sound like such coach speak,
and I hate that I'm even saying this, but it's
really the truth, like you just talk about the process
of getting better every day, and it really is. And
you know, kids nowadays, between social media and fans and
message boards and all of the white noise that's really
out there, they can get focused on so many things

(01:08:39):
that aren't real and can drive them up and down
and every which way but sideways, and so you really
just try to give them something really palpable that they
can focus on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Every day.

Speaker 9 (01:08:50):
We talk about things we need to improve on daily.
We kind of make individual goals, team goals, and just
try to keep it really really narrow and try to
stay focused on it's right in front of your face,
because in this day and age, you start picking your
head up looking around and reading things or trying to
talk about big picture things like that, and you can
drive yourself crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
So I'm not going to ask this question. There's no
need to answer it. But what I'm not going to
ask as a favor is anything in IIL related look
at me gifting coach a non question. He thanks you, yeah,
because I know coach is the last thing you want
to talk about today with all that crap going on.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 9 (01:09:23):
Now I will say this though, because I do I
do want to get my feelings on the record on
this because I truly believe this and I was a
good thing for the players.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
It really is.

Speaker 9 (01:09:32):
I think when you talk about how much money and
how much revenue there is in major college football nowadays,
it certainly is right that the players are getting a
piece of it. Like a lot of my colleagues, it's
just the system, Like it's just the fact that there
isn't the system in place to manage it with any
type of ability whatsoever for the players or for the coaches.

(01:09:56):
It's just crazy, and that part of it is what
needs fixed as fast as humanly possible.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
And even asked the question that's perfect a perfect answer.
As we conclude this interview, I like say, thanks for
your time. And we had drink on a little bit
ago from Missouri, and when they finished their interviews they go,
M I Z. And it scared me because I didn't
know what he was doing. And Sam coach Patman will go,
you know whoopig or everyone has what do you say
gig them at the end of every interview or do
you do one of those at all?

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:10:19):
Yeah, So so I try not to be as corny
as coach fringlew. You do go who's a good who's
a really good friend of mine to So I hope
that gets on air in the years. Yeah, well but
but no, we're we're a thanks and give them, gig
them crowd. But I try not to overdo. I try
not to overdo those types of things. I think when
they're natural, to throw them out there, and when they're unnatural,

(01:10:41):
you know, you just kind of let them go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Then I'll say, uh, this is how it'll play out.
I'll say, coach, love having you, good luck every rest
of the game except this weekend, and then you say
your thing, and let's see how it feels. All right,
here we go, coach. Yeah, I really appreciate the time.
I like A and M good luck every game except
this weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
Thanks and gig them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Yeah so good good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
That was not good of coach.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
All right, coach, I have to help everybody's healthy. Have
a great weekend, and hopefully I'll see you again soon.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
Yeah, for sure, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Guys, we think Travis Kelsey sucks because he party with
Taylor Swift all year.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Yes, yes, it's got to be. What else he's getting older?

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yeah, to shape that age yeah, he isn't getting older, but.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I mean the distractions, man, the distract I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Hate to jump on the bandwagon. It'd be like, I agree,
but I think about me. If I'm distracted doing eight things,
there's no way I can pour in the normal effort
into the main thing if I'm doing all the eight things.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
And don't underestimate the power of love.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
I will not.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
When you're in love, man, like you don't even know
what's going around going on around you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Travis Kelsey has face criticism for a slow start this
football season. Is the Kansas City Chiefs although they are
three and oh.

Speaker 6 (01:11:51):
I gotta say they're three and oh, and he's probably
just saving himself for the postseason.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Oh that's it. I hear you, And I think when
you get older you do that. But I do think
you can travel all around Europe all off season and
you drink and your girlfriends, Taylor Swift, things are probably
treated differently.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
He's been drinking for a while though, Yeah, but not
like this traveling and drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
I mean, you're not working out as hard.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Well, you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
We don't know what he's been doing before, Taylor, Like
we didn't there weren't cameras, but.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
He wasn't all over Europe. He's got one hundred million
dollar podcasts. Now NFL analyst Rodney Harrison said Kelsey's performance
is affected by distractions from his off field commitments like
acting and podcasting. Chiefs colledback. Patrick Mahomes defended Kelsey. What
you should have think it's focused on winning.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Is he acting?

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yeah, he's in the Adam Sandler I think.

Speaker 10 (01:12:37):
Commercials, Happy Go More too, commercials, commercials.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
I think he's in another movie too that let's say
a serious I think you he's a host of a
game show. Oh wow, you date Taylor Swift, you get
a bunch of opportunities you don't get unless you date
Taylor Swift. I'm sure it's a great thing to ever
happen to him. Aside from the love like that, Travis
Kelsey wants to be famous, like he's extremely thirsty for fame.
But take that from somebody who also is. But I'm

(01:13:00):
not saying that Taylor Swift thing isn't love. It probably is.
I don't believe it's fake, but I'm saying that's the
reward you get for that, and that's what he is
reaping it because nobody really cared. What they cared about
is Patrick Mahomes' tight end, Travis Kelsey, who also is
really good, but it wasn't like he's at now he's
Taylor Sw's boyfriend, so they got a lot of opportunities

(01:13:20):
they canna get married probably. Wow, it's crazy. Out of
all the dudes she's dated, she's like the one that
you would never share.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Good for them though, but I do feel like if
something's different that has been consistent over the past amount
of years, which he's not hurt, which last year he
was hurt the Lions game Game one, he didn't even play,
but he's not hurt. But if something's different, that means
something's different. So what's been different. Well, he's dating Taylor Swift,

(01:13:49):
the most famous person in the world, and he's been
all over Europe on tour.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Good for him and the work, like, I mean, yeah,
let's not free. Oh that's a lot of work TV
shows hosting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Yeah, Todd mcshade thinks Travis Kelsey is having a rough
off season because he's party with Taylor Swift at it
too on Riscilla. Yeah, yeah, it's so good. Yeah, it's funny, funny, Okay,
let's look to a couple of big games. Real quick
n CUAA preview Miami almost a twenty point favorite of
Vision Attack. They're gonna kill Himo, cares Ole miss gonna
kill Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Who cares Old miss undefeated? Right, they're really goody killing people.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
They really played anybody though.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Yeah, but so has a lot of other teams. But
they're not killing like I mean, they're covering every spread.
That's the only reason I know. Yeah, yeah, Old Missus
maybe some killing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
They're killing people, but they haven't played anybody yet.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Like when I look at the parlay of the weekend,
I always hit Old miss on there, I put Ole
miss on there, and they like just they cover this
man by so much.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
That's a famous lost words. Everybody, do not bet on
All miss You just heard them saying since Kansas State,
Okloma State, Notre Dame in Louisville. That's I can't believe
Loibal is fifteen. Yeah, quietly huh uh huh. If you
would have asked, just asked, hey, is Louisbell ranked, I don't.
I don't think so. Texas a forty point favorite of
Misissippi State. That's wild and that's his forty point favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
I did watch Missippi State who they.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
Played this week?

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
The quarterbacks out now, Yeah they're terrible. Ohio State is
a twenty four point favorite at Michigan State, Georgia and
Alabama Georgia two point favorite. Penn State nineteen point favorite
over Illinois. The hilarious thing is Coach Bilama.

Speaker 10 (01:15:21):
He was like, white out what like like he didn't know, no,
like they're doing a whiteout.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
He's like, I don't know, I don't care, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
What what does that do for me?

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
He was going to come on this week. I had
to cancel the I had a dog issue, but Uh,
coach Bilom was gonna come on. Sucks. I couldn't get
him on Utah eleven point favorite over Arizona. A Utah
is that Zach Wilson's little brother. I don't know who's
playing quarterback after uh Cam Cam Rising went down?

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
No clue?

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Yeah Isaac Wilson. Yeah, I thought so played really well.
Zack Wilson's brother Zach will now with the Broncos, but
most famous from the Jets. Yes, I have a Zach
Wilson signed Jets helmet behind me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Look at that He's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Like, I don't you could sell that for help much?
And then Oregon is almost a twenty five point favorite
at U C l A. So do we believe in
Oregon again?

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I had a couple, had a couple little hiccups, but
didn't lose twenty five units on it? You have twenty
five or five units on it? Twenty five?

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Sorry, I got five units on it. Twenty five dollars, yeah,
getting unit dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
The units are confusing, man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Yeah, let's look at the NFL Real Quick Falcons and Saints.
That's an interesting game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
That's a good game. I would have never thought that
would be a good game.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
I never thought I would even care about it. That's
an interesting game. Who are you picking in that one?
I'm gonna go at the Saints.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
I think the Saints are rolling, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
And even when they lost to the Eagles last week,
like the Eagles had to like pull one out of
their butthole for that one. Rams at Bears? The Rams
are they have a partial team?

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
They don't they have receivers?

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
They have a partial team. No, they don't have their
one or two and the I don't know, are the
Bears getting better.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
I don't know. I don't either.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
It's hard to watch. They're in Chicago, so they're two
and a half point favorite. Vikings of Packers. Packers. Is
Jordan Love coming back this week?

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I think he's hopeful to Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
I didn't heard the latest.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Not sure, but it's trending.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Packers are two and a half point favorite over the
three and o Vikings. They are in Green Bay. That
tells me he loves playing. It tells me they think
Love is probably playing. Yeah, because they're not going to
do that with milk willis no Steelers. Two point favorites
are the Colts, Jets, and Broncos. The Jets over a
touchdown favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Oh, it sounds like a good game. Casey, let's go.
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Eagles and Bucks. Eagles favorite, Bengals at Panthers. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Dalton coming back?

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
And don't I want the Bengals women and yeah, man,
Jags of Texans. Texas need that win. Jags need that win.
If the Jags lose, it's it's not quick match.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
On four, they're done. Peterson may get fired. Yeah, Oh
that's tough. Commanders of Cardinals Patriots at forty nine Ers.
The Niners are still a ten point.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Favorite, even though they have no one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
They're playing seven man football.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Is Kittle still out?

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Browns and Raiders the game that nobody cares about. The
Raiders are point a half favorite. Chiefs at Chargers. Chargers
don't have a quarterback, right, don't know he's safety?

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Oh yeah, he suspended a game for like being an idiot,
They breaking the rules.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
He got suspended for like constant neglect of safety rules
or whatever. It was something like that. Art hits and yeah.
And then Bills at Ravens. I think that's a Monday
night game. That would be a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Yeah, that are good. Ravens kind of need that though,
still so they don't go one in three, But the
Bills probably.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
You think the Bills are the best team in football
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
I'd still take the Chiefs because they're the Chiefs. But
if it were just if I didn't know anything about
the histories of any team, I'd probably picked the Bills.
Even that Bill's Cardinals game that was Week one, and
you're like, dang, the Cardinals are but the Bills were
just scoring now realized the Cardinals actually aren't that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
They're sneaky good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah, so that that's like an addition to the strength
to schedule for the Bills now where it was do
the Bills suck because the Cardinals are scoring so much?
But now Kyler's back and Harrison's actually really good and
all right cool. I think that's it. Thank you everybody,
Thanks to the coaches for coming on today. Any eddie.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
I got a buddy of mine asked me like, hey,
do you grill out when the Cowboys play?

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
And I said no because I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
I don't want to be doing so, like what if
like the meat still needs to be done and the
games starting out like that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
So we just ordered pizza.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
So I wanted to ask you guys, like, what do
you what's your ideal game day to watch your team?

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Like no one at the house?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Oh, I hate silence. I don't want anybody around me.
I don't want to be text me. No, I don't
want to be around me. I pace. I do push
ups during commercials?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Oh is that just for fitness or because.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
I'm going to have to do something to remove the
nervous energy. So what I will do is add fitness
to that and I'll do push ups. I'm cool. I
used to keep weights and do curls and shoulder lifts. Dang, dude, dude,
I just have it. It's a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
By the end of the game, it was jacked.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
There's a good pump. Yeah, there's a good pump. That's
what I do. And I usually eat before unless it's
a ten o'clock game, and then I'll probably wait till after.
That's my day. No one, nobody. I want anybody around.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
No, I don't want anyone. I was like, hey, do
you want somebody to come over for the Cowboys? We
can invite something.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
No, my wife will win in the room. No, I'm
by myself.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
She doesn't watch the games with you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
She knows better. What about Oklahoma? You watch games with
there sometimes, but she knows better that it will wreck
my mood and I will not be good. So she
just knows better for her, Like, why does she want
to be around me? If I'm a nightmare and she
knows it for winning that, I'm still like, I bet
we're gonna blow this. So it's never positive because when
it's good, I'm still like, I bet it's gonna be bad.
And what's bad. It's just bad. That's the history of

(01:20:43):
being a Razorback fan. I feel like a Jets fans
what that feels like. I just always the next play
is the next play is like the stick. That's like
the stick when you that Marble's game where they all fall. Yeah,
sticks out the next the next stick that's pulled. Yeah,
that's my day. Kevin, What what were you saying? Yeah,
I'm just excited for the Alabama Georgia game.

Speaker 8 (01:21:03):
I feel like it's given a little bit of a
dud this year in USC in Michigan was pretty good
last weekend. But I'm excited that an early game like that,
early in the season that is gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
It's weird that Saban's not involved in it because that's
such a Saban Kirby Smart type situation. And de Boz
really hasn't done anything yet. He hasn't really had He's
only had three games, so it's not like he's had
the ability to have a signature win of any kind yet.
But this could be that for him, right for sure?
You mean coach Debor Yeah, I'm thinking a mite, Yes,

(01:21:32):
thank you. I have a little bit of brain free
brain brain fog this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
What what's his first name?

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
You tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Think? Oh Kaylin Kaylen, Klen DeVore, hell of a coach.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Yeah, I call him a bo's vois h read.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
I'm catching up with my fantasy here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
So I got two guys that are questionable, so I'm
gonna make sure that take them out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Oh my god, So Reid is up scoring a bunch
of points in law to me, like by nine points
last week. But he had a player that was out
and I went and looked at his bench to see
if he would have put anybody and he still want
to have lost.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Oh okay, but still I got to keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Yeah, bad move. Come on, man, it's just a bad
fantasy player. Bad fantasy player.

Speaker 6 (01:22:13):
Yes, so yeah, uh yeah, I gotta win this game
this weekend against the Broncos. So we go play Sam
Darnold in London next week three and one, three in
a row, and uh yeah, playoff baseball around the corner.
Got my Yankee Jersey on number one seed as of
this recording. Let's go, this is our gotta keep on soda. Yeah,
but we don't want a game against the Orioles.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Uh not yet, not this series. But I still wrap,
I still wrap. I see how it is that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Guys next week have fun about that parlay. I feel
pretty good about it.

Speaker 8 (01:22:46):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Feel pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
About it, all right? Make it here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
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