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Speaker 2 (01:08):
This is a podcast call twenty five wists, So stop
your football and they are were a whist So yeah,
it's too bad, but what did you expect. It's a
podcast called twenty five Whistles.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Twin line, Win.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Baker, Welcome to the show, everybody. A couple of things.
Let me ask you this question. I was watching last
week whenever I guess it was Monday night whenever Mahomes
and Baker Mayfield were it's fifty yard line doing the
coin toss and they flipped the coin. They go to overtime,
Chiefs into play in the game. But you see as
soon as the coin toss lands, it was it was funny.
(01:44):
He was Baker Mayfield being Baker. He just reacts like well,
game over, game over. Mahomes just won the toss, like
really funny. Nobody was hating on him for it because
it's arguably the second greatest quarterback of all time with
the chance to be the greatest quarterback of all time.
Who let's remove Mahomes because I already have my two
answers written down and I don't want to affect anybody's answer.
(02:08):
Who would be your second? And you have to put
them both down and we'll go down there to second
and your third quarterbacks. Mahomes is number one. I'm assuming
in everybody's mind, if you get one quarterback active, who
would be your second? And then who would be your
third quarterback? And that's one drive to go down and
win the game.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
In the current NFL.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Right, we're not talking about yeah, ok, yes, guys, just
checking both checking the rules currently.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
There, we got there, we got who.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Would be I want to know who your second and
your third would be, and let me know when everybody's in,
because again I don't anybody judgment to be affected. I
will go first. My We'll just say number one after
Mahomes is going to be Joe Burrow. So I go
Joe Burrow number one. He has stared down the eyes
(03:06):
of Patrick Mahomes and beaten him before. He's the one
guy who has in the playoffs, and so I'm gonna
go Joe Burrow because I feel like, as it used
to be read, it's Eddie now in the Goldfish. You know,
it'd be like somebody has that dog in him when
they don't they have the goldfish. But Joe Burrow's got
that dog in him. Yeah, Like he has the amount
of arrogance you need to believe in yourself, even when
(03:30):
it's not rational. So I'm going Joe freaking Burrow as
my my number one pick after mahomes Kevin, I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Gonna go Stafford. I thought about this and first that
popped in my head was Joe Burrow, and then I'm like, actually,
let's keep thinking. Keep thinking. In the Stafford you kind
of forget about him.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Why Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Because he has thirty six fourth quarter comebacks and forty six.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah its information. Yah, I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I didn't mean to interrupt. I was just blown away
used the stat and not just idiotsy like we do.
That'sime of the word. It's idiocy. Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
So thirty six fourth quarter comebacks and forty six game
winning drives in his career and that's why. And he
was with the line for how long? And he has
all those numbers come up.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That's the only way he won though. What's coming back? Yeah? Everything? Yeah,
that's why so bad. I know, Okay, I'll accept it, Eddie.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
This pains me. But my first one is Lamar Jackson.
That was fine.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean, no, no, no, we only get one. We're
doing the first one. What do you mean, first one?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, my first pick? Right, you said the one and two? Lamar,
Lamar is my dude, Lamars Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said
you're like, you're first.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Did anybody else must understand?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I think I think I got it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, but you're also working computer screens and so.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I want to give you the benefit of that.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
But you didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So how am I to know? Because I have Lamar Jackson.
Don't say anybody else. We only only get one. This
is your first one, so who is it?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
My first is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay, there you go, there we go. We're coming back.
We'll get you one. We'll get we'll get to your
other one.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But I want to stats. Let me get the stats down.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I have no stats, and you can always say hey, sorry,
I wasn't able to listen for the last few seconds.
I was sticking the camera then we won't all look
at you like EDI's talking a different language right now.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Okay, Okay, Lamar Jackson is my dude.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, why so?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I mean he's got legs, Like I feel like you
need legs when you're its last drive and you're gonna score,
you got everything. If when your guys are all covered,
you got nothing, you got legs. Give me Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
He's got he's easy top. Yeah, he's got legs. Yes, Casey,
I gotta go with Josh Allen.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I know he's had some struggles with Mahomes, but I
feel like that thirteen second game that was before the
change and the playoff rules there actually the one that.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, so I got to go with Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I think he's gonna do it one of these days.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I think any of these are bad read I'm gonna go.
Will Levis joking. I'm joking. I'm joking, dude, I wish
you would just committed.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Why, I saw him down at the Chipotle like Mayo, No,
I was also Josh Allen. He's got like fifteen rush
tds right, yeah, he's like five hundred something yours. Okay,
I got with some legs.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
Legs.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You know, so there's one good good, good. We're all
in the game.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We're all in on the game now, right, Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, so I made you pick two, so but they
were in order one and two. Kevin, I'll go to
you first before I give mine. Who was your second one?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Second one was your first?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Joe Burrow, He's no, my second one was your first.
Matthew Stafford. Oh, for the same reason, and I was
a pressure went to stats because I wanted to know
who had the most fourth quarter comebacks. Stafford's also he can,
he can slanging. Still, He's played a lot, so it's
not gonna rattle them like he's the thing. He's thirty
six years old. Yeah right, I looked that up. I
(06:34):
looked up some stuff, so I feel pretty good. So, okay,
so we're just inverted. I'm Burrow Stafford, you're Stafford Borough. Interesting, Okay, Okay, Eddie.
Now we're gonna do a game where we do a
second quarterback. Yeah, who do you have?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I got him?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
This is tough to say. Say dk it's not da.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's not Dak Prescott. I'm gonna go rock Ferdy.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I feel like he is just He's just solid, Like
when everything's clicking, he is solid, and that's what you want.
He's composed, he's smart, he's underrated, and he'll prove you wrong.
He proves me wrong all the time. I'm gonna have
to say, brock Party.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I think brock Party is a guy who doesn't make
a lot of wrong decisions. And I think that is
a smart element of what you're saying there. Like there
are some guys like a Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford,
they will at times, because they're so aggressive, make a
wrong decision out of aggression. That's what you love about him.
Think about brock Party was he doesn't make a lot
(07:34):
of wrong decisions, and I think that's very important. Hey Eddie,
great job, buddy.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Thank you. I did not want to pick a forty
nine er, but.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
He didn't do it last year in the Super Bowl though, correct, Wow,
he did not?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
He fell short?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Did he fall short?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I remember they it was third down and goal. He
dided the field goal, and then the chief the ball
wasn't him.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That was Jones, right, Christian's going up the middle.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I'm just.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You, guys, thought, I'm not I'm not arguing I don't
care enough, but I okay, hey, everybody wins, casey.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
I had Joe Burrow as my third option, but just
to give him a little love, I'm gonna say Jalen
hurts because he almost had my homes on the ropes
in that one Super Bowl, which was pretty solid. So push, push,
I don't know, I'll give you, and.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I also sorry ahead. I love a good underdog, you know. Yeah, yeah,
he just seems like a really smart dude.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
You know.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
Put the put good people around him. He's gonna do
a good job.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Man.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
I loved him.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Underdogs me too, put good people on me. I do
a good job too.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's why I'm doing Oh yeah, man, come on.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, I'm just kidding. Okay, I only got like four
things I want to talk about here. The second one
to start off is I I find myself doing something
that I I don't think I've ever done in my
entire life, and that is I am now rooting for Alabama.
And it's not because I'm rooting for them because they're
(09:00):
I like red teams, natural because Arkansas's red and my
color I'm colorblind, I'm generally drawn to red teams. There's
really nobody on their team that I've that that like,
I'm in love with as a player. I think what
I like is that I like when everybody jumps on
the they suck now bandwagon and like Kaylen Debora is awesome.
(09:20):
He's an awesome coach. And the fact that already a
couple losses are like, get him out of there. He
wears a T shirt, like people are so stupid that
I find myself rooting for Alabama just to shut stupid
people up. Because of all the coaches in the country, Like,
I think that was the number one home run higher,
Nobody's actually going to replace Nick Saban until years and
(09:41):
years later they replaced Nick Saban, and that's only once
they win more championships than he does. But nobody was
gonna replace Bear Bryant or Jane Stallings or you go
through the Alabama coaches until Nick Saban did. So I
find myself and it is so weird rooting for Alabama
because they should. They are not an underdog in any way,
except they kind of are now. They got a couple
let's to see losses. They lost to Vanderbilt that first game,
(10:02):
and I'm happy Vanderbilt one was not rooting for them
in that game. But I find myself rooting for Alabama
and I've never done it. And I'm rooting for Kaylin
de Boor and don't know him, never met him, we never,
we never went up to Washington, we never, we haven't
been down to Alabama. But I feel like I'm questioning
who I am as a person because I've hated Alabama.
Now I hated like personal because they're not a rival.
(10:24):
They usually kick the crap out of us being an
Arkansas fan. But I hated them because they just went
all the time, and I hate teams that went all
the time.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Is it hard to say that out loud?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, it's not, because a lot of people are anti
Alabama and they're not giving them a shot. So like,
I'm in, like, let's go of the teams that are
in it. Like I'm in, I want Alabama to win
the whole freaking thing. You don't know, do you have
a more positive feeling of Alabama because everyone is so
negative on Alabama.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I'm with you on that in the sense of, like
anytime people gang up on one team or one person,
I'm always like, you know what, I'm rooting for that
person or that team now. But for Alabama, I can't
just maybe it's because they've been so good for so long.
I can't feel bad for them so.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Bad for canad de Bor, Yeah, dude, because he was
and he just moved in, like you just got to
the neighborhood, finally got his mail but name on his mailbox. Yeah, yeah,
well it's a couple. He didn't know how to get
to the Starbucks yet. And the environment is different, Like
he's going into an entirely new environment. Not just Tuscaloosa,
I'm talking about college football in general, where the reason
(11:25):
that Saban left is probably why Debor and some of
these other legacy are struggling. Yeah, things just aren't the
same anymore, nor will they ever be the same. And
that's why Sabin was like, I'm done. I'm not doing
this like this anymore.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Even Chip Kelly is like, I'm gonna go asistant to
be the OC.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, it's why. Look at Virginia, they head basketball coach.
He left like two weeks before the season started. However,
shout out to him because he did the most baller
thing he could possibly do for your boys. You know what,
You know, he knew he was going to leave and
I don't. I don't have any first information. You knew
he was going to leave anyway at the last minute.
So like his boy, his assistant coach get the head
coaching job. Like that's what you do, and you give
them time to go hire a head coach. That's a
(12:01):
real one. That's that's a real one right there. It's
immediately what I thought when I saw this, because he
didn't wake up that day and go yeah, I'm out. Yeah,
he knew was coming and he was looking out for
his boys, and I appreciate that. That's why our show
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(12:22):
nine one morning, I'm gonna quit, Eddie, It's gonna be yours.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
WHOA about.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Ten seconds so show goes on, guys, I'm out, Hi,
what's up.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
This thing on?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Speaking of the playoff bracket, and I can run you
through the teams. And this is not the official because
it is not the end of the season, but they
did put out the very first what would happen? This
would be the bracket if it existed today. Who's the
most annoying team on the bracket and I'll read them
to you and you can have any criteria you want.
But what team do you see? It could be long long,
it could be long hate, short hate. It could be
(13:00):
irrational hate. But I want to know you can wipe
one team off the bracket, even if they're really good
or they don't deserve to be there. There are no rules.
Who do you cut from this bracket? Here we go
at number one, Oregon, number two, Georgia, number three, Miami,
number four, b YU. Those will be the four teams
today that will be getting a bye to the second round.
At number five, Ohio State at six, Texas at seven,
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Penn State at eight, Tennessee nine, Indiana ten, Notre Dame eleven,
Alabama twelve, Boise State, Casey, your first eliminate one team
out of spite and spite along.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
It's very easy for me. It's gonna be b YU.
Because Wilson.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I thought about to have a religion war. I know,
I was like, you know, a couple more friends.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
For another show. But yeah, I mean that's interesting. That
jumps out Jet my jet hate my Wow, you love
the Jets so much you hate a quarterback? That sets
your program back a couple of years. Yeah, I guess
gonna be college. That set your organization back a couple
of guys.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It's rooting in some logic. I guess, Okay, Okay, that's
that's mine.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
There's no I love it, there's no lot that's pretty good.
That's just pure emotions, Kevin.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Mine's gonna be Miami only because they just keep barely.
I mean, I know they beat Duke by twenty plus points,
but they're just hanging around, hanging around, and it's just like,
go away, like you're gonna lose at some point. Just
do it now, please.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
They're so annoying and they're getting a bye because the
a SEC sucks so bad. Please sm you beat them
or something in the championship. It sucks. I hate Miami too,
only because they a couple of those games. I feel
like they should have lost. But I don't hate as
much of Texas. I would eliminate Texas from playing sports
all of them. I would just say, hey, Texas, you
(14:49):
know you now. So where I grew up in Central Arkansas,
there were some schools that they said, Okay, well this
school is not being a successful institution in education and sports.
So they took like three or four schools and they
made one school out of them. So there was a
school called glen Wood, and there's another couple of small
and they have it's now called center Point of all
(15:10):
those schools. With Texas, I would do the opposite. I
would split it all up, make them go to other schools.
I'll be like, you got A and m you go
to tech, you got and no more Texas. Just totally
get way too much money, you do. There's too much
success here. We don't like this. You have to do
Texas would go. I would wipe them off, and we
would never As a matter of fact, there never was
a Texas Oh the whole state. No, there's never a
(15:33):
University of Texas. There so much so someone would go,
why don't we just start at University of Texas here
in Austin. I'd be like to go for it because
there would be no rememberance of interesting. I would wipe
them off for the map, respectfully, of course. Respect Hey Mike,
you going to the game? Yeah, I'm going Texas Florida. Yeah,
that'd be fun. That'd be fun. Like I hate Texas,
but it'd be fun to be a Texas fan because
(15:53):
they have such an original color and they win.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Is Texas yours? What do you mean is that your?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah? Yeah, I feel like it's double checking. We should
have You know how when I have a state places Michigan,
they always block out the M or they don't say it,
you know, they have all these things. I feel like
we should do that with Texas in general, or just
the letter T. We will say a single word. Mine's
all just so jealous and jealousy coming from a broke
state that doesn't win and we see rich big brother
(16:23):
Texas just dominating with like a cool color. I think
our color is cooler because I love red, but like
Tennessee and Texas have an original color that's pretty cool
to have, like like it.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Do you put Miami's orange in that same category?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
No, I can't see the difference as why I think so. No,
But not because I'm a hater on it, because I
don't think I see the difference because to me, I
think it looks the same as other oranges. Burnt orange
in Texas does not look like any other orange to me. Yeah,
and Tennessee orange suck of orange orange like the vall
orange that is that's different.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
What's the name of that orange?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Suckle orange, suck orange. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,
so I'm wiping Texas off. Kevin, you said Miami Eddie,
you said, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Going to Ohio State. I feel that I'm going to
Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Like, who likes Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I really don't think they're that good and justice for Army.
I think Army should be in that spot. They're undefeated.
Put Army in there instead of Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
If I think if Army, well, okay, let me say
a couple of things Ohio State should be in. I
don't think that Army has to have that spot specifically. Well,
but I hear what. It's just my dream getting your point. No,
I hear you. I hate I hate Ohio State the
reason Kevin hates Alabama. I don't actually hate Ohio State.
I just hate that they always win and get the
benefit of the doubt. Yes, I have no problem like emotionally,
(17:43):
I am not like an anti Ohio State guy. I
actually like the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Do you know anyone that loves Ohio State like personally?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes, I do, Yeah, Oh of course, yeah, Gary love
o Rascal flats massive Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Oh I didn't think about him yeah, I don't know.
I didn't know he's a big fan. But like I
think of my close circle of friends, we got Texas fans,
we got Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Fans born in Texas. Your regional it's region.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, but I live in Tennessee. Now, I got a
big Valls fan over here in Kevin read Arkansas State.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Maybe I think I went to the games, two.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Games Syracuse, Casey. You know, but no one likes Ohio
State in my circle of friends.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So but what does that say?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I just get him out of there, get him.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
Out of there.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, No, Ohio State is a jealousy hatred. They spent
the most money. Although I will say this, and I
don't hate Ohio State, but I hate Ohio State because
they get the benefit of the doubt. But I don't
hate Ohio State. You don't hate no. And I'm heck
I kind of rooting for Ryan Day because everybody hates
against him, hates on them. But this is my issue now,
(18:49):
is that I watched an Arkansas basketball game. We're taping
this on Thursday afternoon. I watch an Arkansas basketball game
last night. It's weird because now we have a really
high profile, expensive coach. We have a lot of nil money.
We are highly functioning with that nil money. We have
great players. It's weird. I'm struggling with it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
What's weird about it? Because I don't think you're hated.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
No, no, we're not. We're not hated yet. Yeah. Yet.
I think there's an expectation. We weren't even picked first
in the SEC, but there's an expectation because you saw
the poll, like, coaches, which basketball programs do you have
the most faith in? That? And it's Arkansas number one?
And so I don't think it's this year only, but
there will be an expectation because all the money. But
we're we're going to end up being the villain if
(19:37):
we win. Yeah, now it's cal yeah, but that's gonna
be awesome, dude, I don't know if we will know.
I'm not used to that. It feels funny to me
if you win, like that's going to be amazing, yeah,
and that you become the village. We've been the underdog, underfinanced,
little engine that could for so long my whole life
that it feels weird where I'm like, I'm watching a
(19:57):
guy that I know we paid a million bucks for
and I own money, I play, and I'm like, how
does this make me feel great that we actually do it?
Speaker 9 (20:07):
Or like do I do?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I want to be the lovable loser that proves everybody wrong.
I don't know. I'm in I'm having an identity crisis.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
To completely different worlds.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
But I'm also like heading on Texas being rich at
the same time, and I'm like it's completely irrational.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You know what was weird though, is he was uh.
I used to seeing him kind of just wear like
a jogging suit caw, yeah cow, but not not not
in the Arkansas game, like his first game he wore suit.
He looked nice, you ever, like a nice little red jacket.
I've never seen him dressed like that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Him wearing red was really weird for a long time.
Now I've seen it so much, like on my feeds,
it's starting to be kind of normal. But he's blue
to me, not even blue, not just Kentucky but Memphis right,
Like he's he's been, he's been blue. You can go back,
where was your mass.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, that's kind of reddish burgundy.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It is, but that was a long time ago. That
was like I don't remember that back. I only do
because we played at Arkansas. We played them because if
I'm not thinking of Patino, I have a Patino mixed
up a bunch.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah Patino did Providence.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Right, Yeah, and they both were up and freaking the
Northeast where only losers come from. I'm just kickingss, you know.
But yeah, so okay, it's interesting is I'm having an
identity crisis. We haven't even won, meaning as a as
a program, and I'm are like, I don't know if
I like winning.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, we haven't even won, and I'm like, winning feels weird.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, So there's that. That's what's in my mind. I
do want to now go to our guy. We love
Kansas State, and so we talked to Chris Climbing, the
head coach. We did an episode last year with him
of Too Much Access, and we love the program. We
already liked the people because we know a lot of
Kansas folks, but after going there, like we have become
fans of him. And then he won four consecutive FCS
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championships in North Dakota State got hired a Kansas State
in twenty eighteen, and we talked, I got a nice
note from him last night. Oh did you really nice?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Such a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It was like, it was so cool to talk to
you guys because of how you talk to us. Basically
was the note, which I honestly, how do you talk
to me? Well, they're probably like, oh, it's such as
you were like, oh no, no, but you'll hear I
did it in Spanish.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
The end.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I think it's because mostly people think that we have
this like fresh approach on interviews. We're just idiots. Yeah,
I mean, for the most part, we're just asking like
what dumb guys would ask, because that's what we're not
trying to act smarter than we are. And then like
manifest the approach was so fresh, and I'm like, you know,
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we really uh strategize that approach.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Coach, That's really how we are.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, very here. Uh the Wildcats are seven and two
on the season, still in the help for the Big twelve,
even at the end because I waited till the end
of this interview to ask him about the loss of Houston. Yeah,
I just I love the guy. I love the guy,
I love the program. Here he is. Here's coach. Hey, coach,
good to see you. Thank you for the time. How
you doing, Hey, pretty good? I do want to go
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back a year or so. We were working out with
Cooper b B when were up there with you guys.
You keep up with Cooper at all with Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
Absolutely, he's come back for at least two games, but no,
probably weekly. We send a text back and forth. Super
proud of him being the starting center in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Man crazy too because and Cooper and I follow each
other on Instagram since then and when he was drafted,
obviously super pumped for him. But the transition, and maybe
you could add a little of this, the transition because
he did not play center for you, but now he's
playing center with the Cowboys. How hard is that to
do on the offensive line?
Speaker 9 (23:39):
It's really hard. But the fact that he played all
four positions, but that I think lent himself to understanding
all the positions and knew that he could because he
was the guy that communicated all of our checks and
adjustments and IDs and stuff. Anyway, and all along when
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he was here and continue to get better and better,
people kept asking us, do you think he can be
a center? Do you think he can be a center?
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Well?
Speaker 9 (24:08):
Yeah, we did. From a mental side of things now
from a physical side of things, he just had to
put the time into it. And obviously he did that
because to make that transition and be the start, be
named the starter by week one was pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
So teams were reaching out to you to ask if
they if you thought like his mental capacity was that
of a center, so more so was it a size,
Like why were teams looking at him as a center all.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
The fact that he's not six foot six and six '
five and stuff. He's a you know, I don't know
what is he six three and a half six ' four,
And they knew he would be an interior guy somewhere.
And the center position is so valuable, so hard to
find that when you have somebody with the acumen that
he has of understanding the game and understanding defensive fronts
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and being able to communicate. I thought it was going
to be an natural for him to be able to
move inside there. Then he just had to, you know,
work on the physical side of getting the snaps and movement.
And I knew he could do it because he's such
a great athlete too.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Is there ever a time with a player when you
will modify a bit of how they play or what
they do for the next level, even though it may
not be completely advantageous to what you're doing right then.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
Not completely, but I also have a responsibility to give
these guys the best opportunity to have success at that
next level, and if it can fit with what we're
doing as a team, yes, absolutely. We had a guy
that actually started for the Bucks the other night named
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Josh Hayes. He's a safety slash corner and I had
him at North Zkota State and he was a corner
and then we got him out of the transfer portal
to come here and he assumed he was going to
play corner and I said, Josh, we're going to play
you at safety here. A. It's going to help us
be a better team, but B I think it's going
to market you better in the NFL because you're not
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a six foot three guy that's two hundred and fifteen pounds.
That's a corner that a lot of the teams are
looking for. Josh is a six foot, one hundred and
ninety five pound kid, And I said, if you can
cover slot guys, you're going to have a place in
the NFL. So it's not only going to help our team,
but it's going to help your draft status, and they
end up getting drafted maybe in the fourth or fifth
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round by the Bucks. And I think he's in his
third year now and now he's a starter for him.
But his ability to move and showcase what he could
do as a safety rather than a corner helped us
as a team and helped him in the draft.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What's Avery Johnson like as a dude?
Speaker 9 (26:45):
Gosh, A, He's awesome. He's so much fun to be around.
He's the unquestioned leader on the offense, but he's very confident,
has some swagger, but he's not a cocky kid. He's
a guy that you know the room lights up when
he comes in, but he doesn't want that, if that
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makes sense. He doesn't want to be the center of attention.
He's just always going to be. Some of it is
his hair, right, He's going to be the center of
attention because of his hair. But he's a very humble,
driven kid. That what people don't see about Avery is
all the things that he does in our community for youth,
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for disability, children, for people in need. I know he's
helping a principle back home that was diagnosed with cancer,
of raising money those are the things that he's not
putting out on social media but maybe should be emphasized
a little bit more because it's not just about the football.
The football is just a very small part of his life.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
When you look for a leader, like what are those qualities?
And the leadership qualities can be very different. I mean
we have them even here amongst this organization. Like what
are the qualities that you see in leaders that you
feel like go best with your program.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
For starters that have to be able to hold themselves accountable,
it's always easy to say the best player and the
work ethic and his last one off the field and
the first one on the field. You know, those are
the things that people I think think about, but I
think of it as one he's one that holds himself
accountable and he's not going to talk the talk unless
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he can walk the walk. And we have a kid
named Austin Moore that's one of our captains that epitomizes
what a what.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
A leader is.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
And when I call when I say a leader, he's
a servant leader and the fact that he makes everybody
around him better because of his presence. And the best
leaders are ones that really don't care if at the
end of the day we're going to be best friends
for the next forty years, You're going to respect me
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because I'm going to hold myself accountable, but I'm not
going to be afraid to hold you accountable. And you know,
in our sport, in college, kids have three, four or
five years to make a legacy, and you can make
a ton of friends, and you're already going to make
a ton of friends. But the only way you're going
to make a legacy is if you have success. And
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the only way you're going to have success is by
holding your peers accountable. And that's what I find in
the best leaders is they can hold themselves accountable. They
can walk the walk, but they are not afraid to
call out their best friend, not afraid to call out
a teammate that is maybe equally as talented. It's easy
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to call the guys that maybe aren't as good or
don't do things the right way. But when you can
call out the other best players and they respect you
for it, that's the best sign of leadership.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm going to get in the weeds a little here
because I respect your entire career as a coach and
what you've built every level. But I want to talk
about practice tape. So you're a practice, you're doing what
you do, you're ceoing, you're making sure that the macro
things are done right. Do you ever get on and
watch some tape and see somebody that maybe you did
not know was competing at a higher level than maybe
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you wouldn't have caught if you didn't see it on tape.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
One hundred percent. I do it every day, And not
only do you have to do it, but you have
to recognize that individual or those individuals for their efforts.
And a simple thing would be we have our Scout
Team Players of the Week every week, the guys that
aren't playing but gave us a chance to be successful
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by the look that they gave us each day that
week that maybe we're down a defensive tackle and he
had to take every rep in practice for the Scout team,
or a linebacker whatever, maybe as well as special teams.
And I think it's important that not only myself, but
some of our best players thank those guys and recognize
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those guys. We have a neat deal that we do
after wins in the locker room where we hand out
a hammer. Because we talked about pounding the stone all
the time. We hand out a hammer to somebody and
then they get to recognize somebody, and oftentimes it's a
defensive lineman that is recognizing Hey, scout team offensive lineman
and so and so or scout team wide receiver as
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a defensive back. Thank you for pushing me this week, man,
you made me better. But I think you have to
recognize those guys and they have to know that they're
a valued part of your organization and program.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I want to ask you about your dad for a second.
What do you think you've taken from him, even if
you don't realize until you got older that you had,
like as a.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Coach, competitiveness and toughness not even in question. My dad's
the toughest man I know. Because of some of the
things that he's been through, through health situations, through mentions,
I probably caused some of his mental anguished at times.
But he's the toughest guy I know, and he's never
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going to let you let somebody else know that something's
bothering him. I probably don't do as good a job that.
I don't do as good a job of that. I
wear my heart on my sleeve a little bit more
than my dad ever did, but that's a different era too.
And then the competitiveness of you know, we go to
play Oklahoma and my dad, this is gonna be a
(32:30):
tough one. Man. I don't know my first year, We
don't know if we're on the same field as these guys.
And you know, BS, yeah you are, but you got
to convince your guys of that. You got to make
sure that your guys know that you believe in them,
that you are a better team. And if you all
come together and you play your tail off with each other,
you got every bit of an opportunity to beat a
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team like that. And so he's still at eighty five
years old, the best armchair quarterback I have.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Does he text you at all? And does he use emojis?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
No?
Speaker 9 (33:04):
No, my dad wouldn't use an emoji, but he'll text me.
But I always know him in trouble or he wants
to talk to me when he either leaves me a
voicemail or sends me a text, and it starts with Christopher.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Oh full name. He gets you with the full name?
Speaker 9 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Christopher, Why don't you give me a call?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Big twelves new this year, like, yeah, you know a
lot a lot of new teams having to go to
new places. How has it been with the new Big twelve.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
For you guys, it's been a really neat experience. It's
I think it's phenomenal for fan bases. I gotta be
honest with you. The travel sucks, right, I mean that's
what we knew that, But we had to progress in
our league to keep up with the Joneses. So the
travel has been not a whole lot of fun because
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we're kind of like we're the old Pac twelve at night.
Now we're the Big twelve at night, So go to
BYU and get home at six in the morning. Which
was a great environment. So much respect for Clownie Sataki
and what he's done, and they've deserved all the recognition
they're getting. But what a great environment that was. Going
to Colorado and the coach Prime is done a phenomenal
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job there. That place was electric. We found a way
to sneak out of there with a win. But it
was a cool environment in a beautiful setting, and it
was it was fun.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
You know.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
We've gone to some of the other ones, and we
have a few more teams in this league that we
haven't played or seen for a long long time here,
and I think it's healthy for college football. The only
thing I don't like about when you say the new
Big Twelve, the new PACK, or the new ACC, the
new SEC, all these new leagues. The only thing I
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don't like about it is I don't know if we're
going to truly get a true champion when not everybody
plays each other. And I don't know if in the
Big Ten the top teams play each other across the board.
Maybe they do. I don't pay attention to enough schedules,
but you know Iowa State doesn't play BYU Well, nobody knew,
but those two are the better teams in the league.
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We don't play Texas Tech and Texas Tech or and
on US or up towards the top of the league.
And I know that that's part of it. We just
can't control that. But that's something that I wish we
could get rectified a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, the SEC is doing that too, where they you know,
East and West until this year. But it almost makes
more sense because of that, right, I mean, and inequality
and schedule to put the divisions again, because at least
the entire division could play each other and the two
winners could play each other. So almost it's like you're
reversing to go forward because you're right if there are
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advantages for certain teams every year, and there will be,
and that will be something you constantly have to face.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Yeah, and we can't control that, and rather than complain
about it or anything, you know, nobody knows what the
league's going to be like, and that's the prognostication of
this team is going to be the best team, and
we get into August, nobody has any idea. I mean,
nobody knew what Indiana was going to be. I'm sure
that their players and their staff probably thought we're going
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to have a really good team, but nobody knows how
those transfers are going to fit in and how the
new players are going to adapt and fit into the program.
So you're right, it's going to be hard. And now
we play these teams and then I know we're not
playing BYU next year. I can't think who else we're
not playing. But it's like, Okay, you get a game
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with them and you don't see them for two years,
and it's good that we're still playing Like KU and
Iowa State, Oklahoma State, some of our regional rivalries. But
we went to West Virginia again after not seeing them
in twenty three. We played at their place in twenty two,
didn't play them in twenty three, and then they had
to go back there in twenty four. So you're going
to have some of those imbalances where you're going to
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go to the same place two of three years because
of just how they worked the schedule.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I have two final questions for you. I was watching
the CFP whenever they announced the rankings. There you're ranked nineteen.
How high do you think you need to get if
you know, obviously, if you win the Big twelve, you
get in, but where do you think you need to
land in order.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
To get in? Well, that'd be the easiest path, without
a doubt, is to win the Big twelve. I will
be really disappointed if a two loss Big twelve school
gets to the championship game and gets beat and doesn't
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get in and that.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Third loss counts against them, is what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
Yeah, yeah, when you may not even play in the
game and you could get in, but you play in
that game and maybe BYU runs the table and ends
up thirteen, and oh, obviously they're going to get in.
But maybe maybe a team loses to them, that that's
their third loss that they maybe would have gotten in
had they not even played the game. Somebody in the SEC,
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in the Big ten.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
It is what it is.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
I mean, I'm not naive enough I understand the landscape
of college football where those two conferences are at, is
going to get in because.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
They did play in that game.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It does feel counterproductive to penalize a team from making
it to the championship game when they lose the championship game,
because that you're right, may that absolutely could happen. You
could go, well, there's a three beside their name now,
not a two, so we're going to go and hold
them out for another two that didn't make it because
of a tiebreaker or so exactly.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
Yeah, and I wish you could and Bobby within the
next couple of years. I don't know when this thing ends.
It's got to go to sixteen teams don't have buys
and get sixteen teams in there, and then you could say, hey,
the four Power four conferences, if you're in that championship game,
there's your first eight. Those guys are in. I don't
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care how you got there because You're probably not going
to get in there at seven and five anyway, You're
going to be a ten and two, nine and three team,
whatever it is. They might as well just put those
eight teams in and then figure out the eight.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
After that last question, tough at Houston. What do you
say to your team after that game?
Speaker 9 (39:04):
Don't let it define you? Very similar to after BYU.
It's hard to win in college football. I mean it
is you. There's so much parody with the age of
the transfer portal and stuff. You have to be prepared
and put your best foot forward and play really good
football every week. Same thing. We got beat at BYU,
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and I said, guys, this game can't define us. We
can't let BYU beat us twice. And then we won
four in a row and played pretty good football. Okay,
we lost a lot of things and starts with me,
and we've got to find ways to correct those things.
But we can't let that game beat us twice. We're
fortunately we have an open week this week. We got
a lot of guys banged up, so does everybody in
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the country, a lot of guys banged up. We get
a chance to at least catch our breath, get some
guys healthy for these last three weeks.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Coach, I think I've watched seven of your games, Like
I'm a family legit fan now and also my team sucks,
so I'm a legit fan. I've seen, Yeah, got a
good life. We saw, we saw, but it gives me
more time to fand with Kansas State and all of
us here like we loved being there. We're massive fans
of you guys. I know you got three games left
and off week this week, so we appreciate the time,
but just want to say, like we are genuinely and
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loudly rooting for you guys, So thank you for the time.
Speaker 9 (40:14):
Coach, appreciate you having me on. This is a big
thing for a program to be on your show. And
can't thank you guys for being fans of Case State.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
All right, Coach Sea, thank you. All right, let's do
the parlay. We'll do three teams this week because we
did four last week. But we're not on the app
then if we only do three, right, correct, I just
don't let four? We got sad? Why like being on
the app? Man, It's like I can't click on it
because I'm still locked out, but I can see it.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
We might have already committed to Mike, what do we
do here? Can we do four? And they put us
on the app? I could see.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
I know we're slated for later in the month to
be on the app again, you guys.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
And then were we at the end of the app?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Dude? We were last place? And you know what, I
don't blame them, sure, I get it, get it. They
were like, we like your fresh approach. I'm betting we're like,
you know what, We're just idiots. It's not a pressure approach.
We'll do We'll do four because I want reed to
be a part of it.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Do you guys know your teams?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah? I got mine. I got mine.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
But I hope you guys he's looking for the first
time that's the problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got mine. Okay,
got go with you. Cut. Let's do a little parlay here, Kevin,
you go first.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
I'm gonna go the undefeated b Yu Cougars. The Cougars, right,
the Cougars plus three and a half at Utah. That'd
be a pretty fun game. Or minus three and a half,
I'm sorry minus, I said plus minus three and a half.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
That'd be a pretty fun game, rivalry game. Okay, Eddie,
check it out.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
We're going Texas, your favorite team minus twenty one and
a half against Florida. But they're home, so we got that.
Oh it should be a mess.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
And Mike, you're going to the game.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
What are you getting there tomorrow afternoon?
Speaker 5 (42:06):
That's awesome that I guess.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
And the fact that Mike's gonna be there special juju
read mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I think I may go South Carolina minus four against Vandy.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Oh you know you're going against our commodorees.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Dude, I love them, but it's paid too much. Chick
your team. I'm gonna go South Carolina minus four. Since
it's not on the app, you can actually just not
use reeds. I guess that's true. You can build your
own out. Yeah okay, and then uh, it's you. I
know what game is going to hit, but it's not
as sexy. It's not as fine of a pick. Oh
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that's okay. I think I picked the Army last time. Yeah,
but that's sexy. I love America all right? Like this
this game is automatic. I think Vegas has fell asleep
and they're making this line. Samuson State. Mississippi State is
playing in Knoxville at Tennessee. Tennessee is a twenty four
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point favorite. Mississippi State sucks.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
I'll be there.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
You're going to that one.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, we could have beat them by one hundred. Yeah,
Tennessee minus twenty four.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Kevin, you don't think that's a lot? I mean no,
I had twenty one and a half and you're like
that's a lot.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Well, Florida is a better, much better team. Thansissippi State
City State, They're awful. Yeah, but Florida. I think they're
on like their fourth quarterback now, so that hurts.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, right, I did see. It's like we're playing I
don't think so. The fact they even brought up that
he might was surprising to me. I thought he was
going to be out multiple weeks.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
Same and they have some transfer from Yale. I want
to yeah, like a walk on from Yale. Yeah, I think, yeah,
I think smart guy.
Speaker 8 (43:42):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
He actually goes out with a note Padna pen writes
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slash b ball. All right, so here's our talk with
Charlotte Hornet's power forward Grant Williams, which, by the way,
he's been hilarious this season. You been watching him?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yah uh uh?
Speaker 5 (44:43):
You see him push tato.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yes, he's just like trolling. It's so funny. Grant played
at Tennessee, where he was All American before being drafted
by the Celtics in the first round of twenty nineteen.
You can follow Grant on Instagram at Grant will two.
Here is Hornets Power Forward Grant Williams Grant good to
see you, appreciate you time, thanks for having me. How
often do you just walk down the street and somebody's like,
sign it?
Speaker 8 (45:04):
It happened a lot, and New York has more I
feel like the normal. But that's just because it's the
sports city.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Is it weird? Because on a much lower level, like
if I'm gonna do it like a comedy show or
music show, people will bring stuff and I know they're
going to sell it. Like I it's like when a
fifty three year old dude comes up with something to sign,
like I know and my stuff wone goes for as
much as yours. So no, no, no, But isn't it
doesn't that feel a little weird? Like you know, all
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you're doing sign is something that some dude is just
probably gonna flip real quick.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
It depends. Like I always check, like when I'm in
during the season. Is if I see a blue marker,
a Tipty don't sign. So if it's black or gold
or something like that, sign it, But blue I Tippy
don't sign. Why that blue is what gets sold? That's
what I got told like you think about Plini cards.
We sign a blue marker and everything that typically, like
you see online, it's to be in blue.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
So I'll tell my son not to carry a blue marker.
Speaker 8 (45:52):
Yeah, they don't care about blue markers. We're pretty pretty
good on getting the segnature.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
So we live in Nashville, Tennessee. I don't know how
you about Barnes. How do you feel about the program now?
Speaker 8 (46:02):
I feel like they're doing great. I don't know how
much how many years Barnes got left in them. I
feel like if they if Yanna being bad, I feel
like Barnes gonna step away. But I think that at
the same time, they're They're one of the best teams
in the country every year, so they'll stay competitive. This
year is gonna be different because there's team full of
transfers and freshmen. So I'm excited because Barnes is gonna
be able to do with that group. And I wish
years past adult year is probably the best year to
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do it.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
What about Nil, Do you wish that had been way
more prevalent whenever whenever you were playing?
Speaker 8 (46:27):
Yeah, let's just say I was a three star recruit,
so it's not like I was getting paid out of
high school as some guys. So when if I would
definitely went back, I definitely would have made probably two
million dollars or something like that that year after my
especially after the two back to back and see Player
of the Years. But and now yell didn't kick in
until two years after I left school, so after COVID
technically could have been a super senior, but I wouldn't
have wanted to be in school that long.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
As far as fitness goes, what do you do when
it's not time to do you officially? Like how are
you staying in shape?
Speaker 8 (46:55):
Honestly, it starts with just like the biking and stuff
like that, Like I go like trying to stay active, walks. Honestly,
I enjoy being in Europe because walkable city. New York
places like that because you can get around, use metro,
subway and just kind of move around. I'm not really
the guy that walks around with security or really worries
about anything. So that's probably the reason why I love
(47:16):
being in the city like this. So it's been really fun.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
When the season gets closer, how do you change your regimen?
Speaker 8 (47:21):
Ramp up everything else? Die? It's probably the number one
thing for me because it's working out I always will do.
But eating is probably my biggest kryptonite. So figuring out
what you're eating, how much you're eating, that's probably my
number one thing for fitness.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
How many shots you need to get up a session.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
Do you have a number or it's more so feel
But at the same time, I typic get like two
hundred and three hundred at least in that one time
of day, and I maybe I'll go back, but you know,
over time those thousands, And it depends on what time
the season you're in and what you think you need.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
What do you feel like you bring now at this
stage of your career, honestly.
Speaker 8 (47:55):
Just a veteran mentality, defense, physicality, shooting, spacing, and honestly
just hopefully a chance of winning, like a winning mentality
and culture to be able to set you.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
When you say a veteran a really young team like
until Van Fleet went to Houston, like that was.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
A very very very young team.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yes, are there Do teams actually need veterans to keep
people in line?
Speaker 8 (48:19):
It's not even about keeping people on line, but I
think it's necessary because it gives guy's perspective and it
also gives guys a blueprint. You know, when you're just
a young group, a young group of guys, you're all
competing for the same spots. You're not really worried about winning,
you're not really caring about team Outlook, you're worried about
what girl you're going to talk to, and you don't
know what girl to avoid. It's just a lot going on.
So honestly, it's crucial we have vets on every team.
(48:39):
It's something that I'm actually trying to talk to the
league about and make sure that it's either a staple
or something like that going on. Because having the Times
Gipps and the Markeuith Morris, you don't as has them
like play people like that in the locker room gives
you not any the history of the league and what
you've been through, but also might give you perspective during
the game. Like when I got to Charlotte, I was like, Brandon,
get to know the referees, like no one's ever told
him that.
Speaker 9 (48:59):
But like talk to under names.
Speaker 8 (49:00):
If you call it, mister rough, you're gonna be with
them for the next twenty years of your life. Like
these guys don't change, so get to know them. So
like These are the things that I feel like when
you're a young team, you don't really get to hear
and veterans, I think are really crucial to every team
in the league.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Year one to year two. You're talking about Brandon Miller,
I'm assuming, yes, like Nick Smith, you know those kind
of guys. Year one, I'm assuming, eyes wide open, like
it's just I'm in the freaking NBA and making money.
What's the difference in growth even from your year oneder
year two? What will they experience going into the second year.
Speaker 8 (49:28):
It's that second year where everybody kind of understands your
game now and you have to continue to improve. My
first year, I wasn't necessarily labeled as a shooter, and
that second year I came in as a really good shooter.
And it's just a matter of continued improvement and trying
to make your mark of the league. Because you might
have a great first year. I had a great rookie year.
My second year wasn't what I wanted it to be.
So it's just a matter of maintaining that same consiste
of mentality, of competitiveness and honestly focusing in on what's
(49:51):
important and making sure that basketball is your main thing.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Can you actually, if you focus on a specific skill,
can you returned to the NBA the next year with
a new skill in your bag that they were not
used to you having last year?
Speaker 9 (50:06):
Absolutely, Like I.
Speaker 8 (50:06):
Think I've improved year over year, especially with my handle
on perime, their skills, play making ability and then shooting
for sure in my life, and honestly just getting more
comfortable on the floor and understanding where your strengths are,
what spots do you want to get to And it
takes time. You know, some of their best players don't
really have their best years to their eighth ninth year.
So you with a guy like Jeremy Grant, he's always improved.
(50:27):
There's always gonna be that continued improvement. There's especially when
you're young. I was a twenty year old rookie and
people thought I was old like I was twenty four.
I was like, nope, I'm probably the same mate supposed to.
These guys went to school for three years, So there's
always something you can improve on. And I think that,
you know, you I always make the joke, you know,
people made fun of JV's left hand that year and
then all of a sudden next year is all he
was doing was dropping left, so you can really improve
(50:48):
your game.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Last question, as a kid watching basketball, like you're Mount Rushmore,
the four players that you watch the most.
Speaker 8 (50:54):
It's funny because you're gonna laugh at my names because
none of them were the cool ones, Like I was
a Boris yeahl fan. Wow, Yeah, I was a funny
because Raymond Green with time, it was one of my
favorite players. Honestly, I enjoyed guys that were my position
with my size, so honestly, Chuck Hayes was another name.
And the last one, at least a guy that I
(51:15):
could never play like was Jamal Crawford.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Was there a chance for you to ever with your
first year or two in the league, you ever get
to do something cool like like in the Olympics, we
saw Katie throw out.
Speaker 8 (51:25):
Oh, I was there this past year or this year.
Speaker 9 (51:27):
I was interviewing the guys.
Speaker 8 (51:28):
I have video of me after the game because I
was in Olympics dot Com, so I was able to
be down there after Steph and all those different games.
I was asking questions like part of my French Steve kerrsay,
what that were you doing here?
Speaker 9 (51:40):
And I was like, I was like, you know, I'm
just on the media side, have a good time.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Do that in a game there we're like somebody that
was a hero of yours. You you know, throwm an
alu or play against him, and you were like, this
is kind of cool? Is in my life?
Speaker 9 (51:51):
First my rookie hero was Kimba Walker.
Speaker 8 (51:53):
I grew up in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I watched
Kimball as I grew up, and then all of a sudden,
I get drafted the South as he signs there, Like
I told him worries about how he was at Providence
Day School of working out and I was the ninth
grade kid walked up till introduced myself and he had
no idea and remember it. But he was the nicest
guy to me at basketball Camps two when I was young.
And it's just like I told him, I said, these
things matter. So that's why I try to tell every
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rookie like, you never know who you're gonna meet, you
never know who you're gonna talk to, So try to
treat everybody with respect. And at the end of the day,
you might change someone's whole directory of their life. Just
buy one conversation.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
That's how I feel about you and me right now,
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things to talk about. Number one, the new pickleball rankings
have been released. Casey, do you play pickleball?
Speaker 4 (53:51):
I never actually played pickleball, but I dabbled in tennis.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
We definitely, I know you've said that before. We definitely
would let you play with us. We're not like having
a group chat and letting you watch us have the
group chat without being a part of it.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Yeah, next time you guys do it, let me know.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Problem is, it gets pretty competitive. You almost need a
couple of Eddie's one of the Goldfitch. I love it, dude,
Well I have to.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
I'm I'm the goal and I didn't show up to
the last session, so you've ranked. Obviously, you need to
become a part of us. You's got to get a
couple reps in. Yeah, maybe it's just like.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
You come over. We still a little a little hit card,
just a little hit and learn, teaching the teaching, the rules.
Do you know the rules of pick a ball? No?
Speaker 3 (54:31):
Have you heard of the kitchen?
Speaker 9 (54:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Stay out of a mother?
Speaker 5 (54:35):
Yeah, I don't even think about it.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Here and I need to do this. I need to
do this. Dramatic for the clip, for the internet clip too.
Here are the new pickleball rankings as of the date
of insert date here. Dramatic thank you. Number one, still
holding me, thank you, No surprise there. Number two country
(55:02):
superstar George Burge, superstard. He's got one number one lead
that in the clip when Eddie, Yeah, number two, more
than we have. Number three, first time on the list.
Music producer Ross Kopperman, Oh wow, yes, first time and
(55:25):
he shows up at number three. He has this three
three appearances, he has this three. You gotta have three
appearances to make the list. He had his third appearance.
You were not there on Sunday. M hm mm hmm.
Ross Copperman probably has like twenty number one songs.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
It's a lot of number ones.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
At number four, kickoff Kevin number four, though, I'll take that.
I can challenge for three and two.
Speaker 5 (55:49):
I'll take that. I had a rough day on Wednesday,
rough day.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, pounded a pretty good and George yeah yeah, gonna lie.
Speaker 8 (55:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
At number five, he's a human, he's also a Gator. Gator.
Harrison dies at number six of eight the former Goldfish
read you read it, number six and rankings.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
I think very good.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
At number seven, falling because of injury, Kevin Klue. Now,
he did play in a tournament over the weekend that
wasn't us, and he played pretty well. That doesn't count,
but correct. But he's been injured and he's still, i think,
on one leg, better than the next person. Oh, that's weird.
At number eight, wearing the Goldfish, the lowest last in
(56:44):
the league, the caboose Eddie, everybody, I'm sorry, Eddie, he's
wearing the Goldfish.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
I'm coming against you boys, though, I will be coming
doing some training in my backyard. I didn't take much
to take over right in front of me here. Yeah,
I got a wonder guy I got Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I mean you can move up, you can move on.
So that is the current pickleball list of whatever we
can play whenever, whenever you guys want because our train
I mean clothes out of town for whatever days. Oh,
so we can get him. No, I'm saying we can
play whenever we're normally supposed to work out.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
You don't play today?
Speaker 1 (57:21):
What time three?
Speaker 9 (57:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Maybe like two thirty? Okay, could you do that? Yeah?
Possibly falling down the ranks.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
That's okay, read the most important question doing.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
The podcast with us today. We got to find a
fourth though, that can play normally. We'll see George's into town. Yeah,
I can text Ross. Okay, we'll see what's up.
Speaker 9 (57:43):
Let me know.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
We'll see if I can find a fourth because we've
got Mike can have a podcast. We have to go
do anyway in a few minutes and then uh and
we're doing one now too. It's all that's all I do. Okay,
So thank you. That's pickleball rankings, and I'm gonna do
one more thing and it's still something I'm dabbling with.
I call it the oddly numbered list. It's a list
(58:04):
of things that just has an odd number to the list.
And my oddly numbered list this week is most irrelevant
NFL teams and the list is well, only four teams.
It's an odd number for a list. I know, these
are the four most irrelevant teams according to me. At
number four, the Raiders. They don't have a quarterback. Well,
(58:30):
and that makes you pretty irrelevant. Yeah that's all you need.
Speaker 5 (58:33):
Yeah, that'll do it.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
They don't win. That hurts. Also, they're in a city
where there's so much going on. Unless you're really good,
you kind of you just exist. You don't matter. There's
a difference in existing and mattering. And the Raider they
have a star on brock Bowers. They have a star
on Max Crosby. But unless you have a quarterback, you
(58:55):
don't have much. They don't have a coach as far
as like a coach that has any winning under his belt.
I mean he went in as the interim last year.
They have a big owner, the son, the son of
the Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Oh got Tom, which is ironic. No quarterback, but you
got the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
So newe though, he's so new. Number four on my list,
the Raiders. At number three the Titans. Oh, and that's
hard to do because they we can see their freaking
house right here. Well, you look out the window and
there they are. But when you don't win, and even
when they were winning, they were just kind of winning
(59:32):
and they were winning very boring.
Speaker 8 (59:35):
They were.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
It wasn't there was no nothing dynamic about when even
when the Titans had that decent team, the low like
the the logo the Titan. It's kind of boring.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
Now everything's kind of boring. Yeah, when it wasn't before.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
Really, yeah, it's all good. It did like nobody cares
about I'll just say us because we're here. Nobody cares
about the Titans, good or bad. Nobody hates the Titans.
And unless you're like a super fan, love you live here,
nobody loves them. And that's the worst one. There's no
feeling about you. You want people to hate you because
you you want people to feel at you like I do. Texas.
Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
It's like people feel good for them when they win, like,
oh good for them.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Oh those yeah, I look at you got I know.
And that's what the Titans have right now. Number three
irrelevant franchises, the Tennessee Titans. Number two the Arizona Cardinals,
and you know, they even have a quarterback. But they're
in a weird time zone, so that affects when you're
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not good and they kind of are supposed to be
good and then they get a draft pick that's supposed
to and they don't even get them the ball. It's
just a bunch of weird that. There's always weirdness with
that group. They fire Cliff and Cliff Cliff like rebuilds.
When they get the grades for like cafeteria food and equipment,
they're like d's and f's and it's weird. Like whatever's
(01:00:58):
happening out there is just weird.
Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
The entire state of Arizona when it comes to sports, like,
do you ever really think.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
About your i' me thinking about that?
Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Now made the World Series and you forget you forget. Yeah,
their hockey team left them, they went to Utah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Who were they the Coyotes?
Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
And then their basketball team, the whistle Chasers. You don't
even know them. Their NBA team, you never heard of them.
That's how much you don't even know exactly. So the Cardinals,
and that's a tough one because they do have a quarterback.
People should know and feel good, h I.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Got a great tight end.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Do you have a dude?
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
But Marvin Harrison Junior?
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
They have and they're it's still they're not. Yeah. And
number two the Arizona Cardinals, and my number one is
obviously and easily the Carolina Panthers. That is a black
hole for anybody that goes to that team that has
a future ahead of them, because they don't anymore. You
want to go there in your twilight years. You want
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to go there because they'll actually pay for you and
other teams won't. And this is no shot like an
Adam Deelon because I think I was thinking, like I
don't feel it could have gone and been the number
four receivers a lot of places. But when he left Minnesota,
where did he go to be the number two, one
and a half the Panthers because they were gonna pay
it because nobody wants to go there, so they'll pay people.
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah, they want to leave so bad they go to
the Cowboys. Johnathan Mingo, your boy Mingo.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I like Mingo though, I really do. And I think
the reason that some people don't is because he's been
a Panther. Sure, Like, don't hold against him what he
hasn't been able to do when his whole team hasn't
been able to do. Look at Baker, everybody gave up
on him. Look at Sam Darnold, everybody gave up on them.
I think Johnathan Mingo is going to the Cowboys kind
of suck.
Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
But but think Cooper Rush and Johnathan Mingo can take
us to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Trey Lance, if it's Trey Lance, they've given up.
Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Yeah, but it'd be fun. I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Why not, I can sign up for that. I would
like to see it too. But if the Cowboys still
want to actually play to try to make the playoffs,
which there is an outside shot they can, it's Cooper Rush.
Cooper Rush wins games he does he had last year. Yeah.
Number one is the Carolina Panthers. Anything going in, I
feel bad for you. Anything coming out, I have hope
(01:03:07):
for you. Like I watched and I didn't get to
watch a lot of the Panthers game because Brycehyunk started.
They won, right, they beat the Saints. I root for Brysyunk,
same reason I root for these other Mama Jamas I've
been talking about people like, no, he sucks. Now, Brycehunk
doesn't suck. But I watched one of his interceptions and
they're like it was a funny meme, and was like,
(01:03:28):
throws another interception and it's Bryce youungk hitting a guy
right in the numbers, him fumbling it and the defensive bout.
So I was super happy for bryceh I hope he
gets out of there, and I hope he's able to
have a second life, but a very young second life.
Remember Sam Darnold's very young. He's sixteen. It feels like
(01:03:48):
he's fifty one, but he's sixteen years old. Number one
most irrelevant is the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Anybody that I left off the list you thought should
have been added to the irrelevant list. I considered the Giants,
but they're New York, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
What about the Saints, I f im surprising to put
the Saints.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Well, they're the greatest Thamember after we two, right after
we too. Yeah, they have won a Super Bowl and
they have Drew.
Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
People still hate the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Irrelevant, but I think there's a difference. Irrelevance means general disinterest.
I think some people are interested in the Saints losing
because its funny because they've been so good for so long,
or it's a story because the Saints now excuse me,
the Saints of that Patriottriot's now suck. Yeah, So I
don't think the Patriots are at all still a little relevant.
(01:04:32):
I think they're very relevant. They just aren't good.
Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Yeah, promising.
Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
The Jaguars are getting back to where they were.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
They were probably going to be number five for me.
Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Yeah, they're they're back, and it's funny when they lose.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
I think their colors are so ugly and their logo
is terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
It's the same thing with the one they start winning.
Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I'm like, is that gold that color? When they go
to England? They know what's up? Yeah, so yeah, that's it.
I think we're good, do you guys? Hope you have
a great weekend. Thank you for listening to the show.
Go follow us at Bobby Bone Sports. You put up
a bunch of clips. Good luck on the pickleball everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
And I'm telling you if you want to win, Nope,
can't say that, so I didn't say anything if you
want to win it in life focus. My next sentence
is what I feel really great about is Tennessee covering
that it good in Knoxville at Nielan when Mississippi State
comes to town. I feel really good of it about
(01:05:30):
that one. I feel like you can you have extra
smiles when it's over all right, that's all we got,
all right? Well, see you guys next time. Thanks to
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it's too bad, but what did you expect. It's a
podcast called twenty five Whistles.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Twin line, Win.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Baker, Welcome to the show, everybody. A couple of things.
Let me ask you this question. I was watching last
week whenever I guess it was Monday night whenever Mahomes
and Baker Mayfield were it's fifty yard line doing the
coin toss and they flipped the coin. They go to overtime,
Chiefs into play in the game. But you see as
soon as the coin toss lands, it was it was funny.
(01:44):
He was Baker Mayfield being Baker. He just reacts like well,
game over, game over. Mahomes just won the toss, like
really funny. Nobody was hating on him for it because
it's arguably the second greatest quarterback of all time with
the chance to be the greatest quarterback of all time.
Who let's remove Mahomes because I already have my two
answers written down and I don't want to affect anybody's answer.
(02:08):
Who would be your second? And you have to put
them both down and we'll go down there to second
and your third quarterbacks. Mahomes is number one. I'm assuming
in everybody's mind, if you get one quarterback active, who
would be your second? And then who would be your
third quarterback? And that's one drive to go down and
win the game.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
In the current NFL.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Right, we're not talking about yeah, ok, yes, guys, just
checking both checking the rules currently.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
There, we got there, we got who.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Would be I want to know who your second and
your third would be, and let me know when everybody's in,
because again I don't anybody judgment to be affected. I
will go first. My We'll just say number one after
Mahomes is going to be Joe Burrow. So I go
Joe Burrow number one. He has stared down the eyes
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of Patrick Mahomes and beaten him before. He's the one
guy who has in the playoffs, and so I'm gonna
go Joe Burrow because I feel like, as it used
to be read, it's Eddie now in the Goldfish. You know,
it'd be like somebody has that dog in him when
they don't they have the goldfish. But Joe Burrow's got
that dog in him. Yeah, Like he has the amount
of arrogance you need to believe in yourself, even when
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it's not rational. So I'm going Joe freaking Burrow as
my my number one pick after mahomes Kevin, I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Gonna go Stafford. I thought about this and first that
popped in my head was Joe Burrow, and then I'm like, actually,
let's keep thinking. Keep thinking. In the Stafford you kind
of forget about him.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Why Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Because he has thirty six fourth quarter comebacks and forty six.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah its information. Yah, I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I didn't mean to interrupt. I was just blown away
used the stat and not just idiotsy like we do.
That'sime of the word. It's idiocy. Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
So thirty six fourth quarter comebacks and forty six game
winning drives in his career and that's why. And he
was with the line for how long? And he has
all those numbers come up.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That's the only way he won though. What's coming back? Yeah? Everything? Yeah,
that's why so bad. I know, Okay, I'll accept it, Eddie.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
This pains me. But my first one is Lamar Jackson.
That was fine.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean, no, no, no, we only get one. We're
doing the first one. What do you mean, first one?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, my first pick? Right, you said the one and two? Lamar,
Lamar is my dude, Lamars Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said
you're like, you're first.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Did anybody else must understand?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I think I think I got it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, but you're also working computer screens and so.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I want to give you the benefit of that.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
But you didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So how am I to know? Because I have Lamar Jackson.
Don't say anybody else. We only only get one. This
is your first one, so who is it?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
My first is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay, there you go, there we go. We're coming back.
We'll get you one. We'll get we'll get to your
other one.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But I want to stats. Let me get the stats down.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I have no stats, and you can always say hey, sorry,
I wasn't able to listen for the last few seconds.
I was sticking the camera then we won't all look
at you like EDI's talking a different language right now.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Okay, Okay, Lamar Jackson is my dude.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, why so?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I mean he's got legs, Like I feel like you
need legs when you're its last drive and you're gonna score,
you got everything. If when your guys are all covered,
you got nothing, you got legs. Give me Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
He's got he's easy top. Yeah, he's got legs. Yes, Casey,
I gotta go with Josh Allen.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I know he's had some struggles with Mahomes, but I
feel like that thirteen second game that was before the
change and the playoff rules there actually the one that.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, so I got to go with Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I think he's gonna do it one of these days.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I think any of these are bad read I'm gonna go.
Will Levis joking. I'm joking. I'm joking, dude, I wish
you would just committed.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Why, I saw him down at the Chipotle like Mayo, No,
I was also Josh Allen. He's got like fifteen rush
tds right, yeah, he's like five hundred something yours. Okay,
I got with some legs.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
Legs.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You know, so there's one good good, good. We're all
in the game.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We're all in on the game now, right, Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, so I made you pick two, so but they
were in order one and two. Kevin, I'll go to
you first before I give mine. Who was your second one?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Second one was your first?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Joe Burrow, He's no, my second one was your first.
Matthew Stafford. Oh, for the same reason, and I was
a pressure went to stats because I wanted to know
who had the most fourth quarter comebacks. Stafford's also he can,
he can slanging. Still, He's played a lot, so it's
not gonna rattle them like he's the thing. He's thirty
six years old. Yeah right, I looked that up. I
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looked up some stuff, so I feel pretty good. So, okay,
so we're just inverted. I'm Burrow Stafford, you're Stafford Borough. Interesting, Okay, Okay, Eddie.
Now we're gonna do a game where we do a
second quarterback. Yeah, who do you have?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I got him?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
This is tough to say. Say dk it's not da.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's not Dak Prescott. I'm gonna go rock Ferdy.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I feel like he is just He's just solid, Like
when everything's clicking, he is solid, and that's what you want.
He's composed, he's smart, he's underrated, and he'll prove you wrong.
He proves me wrong all the time. I'm gonna have
to say, brock Party.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I think brock Party is a guy who doesn't make
a lot of wrong decisions. And I think that is
a smart element of what you're saying there. Like there
are some guys like a Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford,
they will at times, because they're so aggressive, make a
wrong decision out of aggression. That's what you love about him.
Think about brock Party was he doesn't make a lot
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of wrong decisions, and I think that's very important. Hey Eddie,
great job, buddy.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Thank you. I did not want to pick a forty
nine er, but.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
He didn't do it last year in the Super Bowl though, correct, Wow,
he did not?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
He fell short?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Did he fall short?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I remember they it was third down and goal. He
dided the field goal, and then the chief the ball
wasn't him.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That was Jones, right, Christian's going up the middle.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I'm just.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You, guys, thought, I'm not I'm not arguing I don't
care enough, but I okay, hey, everybody wins, casey.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
I had Joe Burrow as my third option, but just
to give him a little love, I'm gonna say Jalen
hurts because he almost had my homes on the ropes
in that one Super Bowl, which was pretty solid. So push, push,
I don't know, I'll give you, and.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I also sorry ahead. I love a good underdog, you know. Yeah, yeah,
he just seems like a really smart dude.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
You know.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
Put the put good people around him. He's gonna do
a good job.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Man.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
I loved him.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Underdogs me too, put good people on me. I do
a good job too.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's why I'm doing Oh yeah, man, come on.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, I'm just kidding. Okay, I only got like four
things I want to talk about here. The second one
to start off is I I find myself doing something
that I I don't think I've ever done in my
entire life, and that is I am now rooting for Alabama.
And it's not because I'm rooting for them because they're
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I like red teams, natural because Arkansas's red and my
color I'm colorblind, I'm generally drawn to red teams. There's
really nobody on their team that I've that that like,
I'm in love with as a player. I think what
I like is that I like when everybody jumps on
the they suck now bandwagon and like Kaylen Debora is awesome.
(09:20):
He's an awesome coach. And the fact that already a
couple losses are like, get him out of there. He
wears a T shirt, like people are so stupid that
I find myself rooting for Alabama just to shut stupid
people up. Because of all the coaches in the country, Like,
I think that was the number one home run higher,
Nobody's actually going to replace Nick Saban until years and
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years later they replaced Nick Saban, and that's only once
they win more championships than he does. But nobody was
gonna replace Bear Bryant or Jane Stallings or you go
through the Alabama coaches until Nick Saban did. So I
find myself and it is so weird rooting for Alabama
because they should. They are not an underdog in any way,
except they kind of are now. They got a couple
let's to see losses. They lost to Vanderbilt that first game,
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and I'm happy Vanderbilt one was not rooting for them
in that game. But I find myself rooting for Alabama
and I've never done it. And I'm rooting for Kaylin
de Boor and don't know him, never met him, we never,
we never went up to Washington, we never, we haven't
been down to Alabama. But I feel like I'm questioning
who I am as a person because I've hated Alabama.
Now I hated like personal because they're not a rival.
(10:24):
They usually kick the crap out of us being an
Arkansas fan. But I hated them because they just went
all the time, and I hate teams that went all
the time.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Is it hard to say that out loud?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, it's not, because a lot of people are anti
Alabama and they're not giving them a shot. So like,
I'm in, like, let's go of the teams that are
in it. Like I'm in, I want Alabama to win
the whole freaking thing. You don't know, do you have
a more positive feeling of Alabama because everyone is so
negative on Alabama.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I'm with you on that in the sense of, like
anytime people gang up on one team or one person,
I'm always like, you know what, I'm rooting for that
person or that team now. But for Alabama, I can't
just maybe it's because they've been so good for so long.
I can't feel bad for them so.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Bad for canad de Bor, Yeah, dude, because he was
and he just moved in, like you just got to
the neighborhood, finally got his mail but name on his mailbox. Yeah, yeah,
well it's a couple. He didn't know how to get
to the Starbucks yet. And the environment is different, Like
he's going into an entirely new environment. Not just Tuscaloosa,
I'm talking about college football in general, where the reason
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that Saban left is probably why Debor and some of
these other legacy are struggling. Yeah, things just aren't the
same anymore, nor will they ever be the same. And
that's why Sabin was like, I'm done. I'm not doing
this like this anymore.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Even Chip Kelly is like, I'm gonna go asistant to
be the OC.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, it's why. Look at Virginia, they head basketball coach.
He left like two weeks before the season started. However,
shout out to him because he did the most baller
thing he could possibly do for your boys. You know what,
You know, he knew he was going to leave and
I don't. I don't have any first information. You knew
he was going to leave anyway at the last minute.
So like his boy, his assistant coach get the head
coaching job. Like that's what you do, and you give
them time to go hire a head coach. That's a
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real one. That's that's a real one right there. It's
immediately what I thought when I saw this, because he
didn't wake up that day and go yeah, I'm out. Yeah,
he knew was coming and he was looking out for
his boys, and I appreciate that. That's why our show
starts at five am, right you coul six East East
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(12:22):
nine one morning, I'm gonna quit, Eddie, It's gonna be yours.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
WHOA about.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Ten seconds so show goes on, guys, I'm out, Hi,
what's up.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
This thing on?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Speaking of the playoff bracket, and I can run you
through the teams. And this is not the official because
it is not the end of the season, but they
did put out the very first what would happen? This
would be the bracket if it existed today. Who's the
most annoying team on the bracket and I'll read them
to you and you can have any criteria you want.
But what team do you see? It could be long long,
it could be long hate, short hate. It could be
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irrational hate. But I want to know you can wipe
one team off the bracket, even if they're really good
or they don't deserve to be there. There are no rules.
Who do you cut from this bracket? Here we go
at number one, Oregon, number two, Georgia, number three, Miami,
number four, b YU. Those will be the four teams
today that will be getting a bye to the second round.
At number five, Ohio State at six, Texas at seven,
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Penn State at eight, Tennessee nine, Indiana ten, Notre Dame eleven,
Alabama twelve, Boise State, Casey, your first eliminate one team
out of spite and spite along.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
It's very easy for me. It's gonna be b YU.
Because Wilson.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I thought about to have a religion war. I know,
I was like, you know, a couple more friends.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
For another show. But yeah, I mean that's interesting. That
jumps out Jet my jet hate my Wow, you love
the Jets so much you hate a quarterback? That sets
your program back a couple of years. Yeah, I guess
gonna be college. That set your organization back a couple
of guys.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It's rooting in some logic. I guess, Okay, Okay, that's
that's mine.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
There's no I love it, there's no lot that's pretty good.
That's just pure emotions, Kevin.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Mine's gonna be Miami only because they just keep barely.
I mean, I know they beat Duke by twenty plus points,
but they're just hanging around, hanging around, and it's just like,
go away, like you're gonna lose at some point. Just
do it now, please.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
They're so annoying and they're getting a bye because the
a SEC sucks so bad. Please sm you beat them
or something in the championship. It sucks. I hate Miami too,
only because they a couple of those games. I feel
like they should have lost. But I don't hate as
much of Texas. I would eliminate Texas from playing sports
all of them. I would just say, hey, Texas, you
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know you now. So where I grew up in Central Arkansas,
there were some schools that they said, Okay, well this
school is not being a successful institution in education and sports.
So they took like three or four schools and they
made one school out of them. So there was a
school called glen Wood, and there's another couple of small
and they have it's now called center Point of all
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those schools. With Texas, I would do the opposite. I
would split it all up, make them go to other schools.
I'll be like, you got A and m you go
to tech, you got and no more Texas. Just totally
get way too much money, you do. There's too much
success here. We don't like this. You have to do
Texas would go. I would wipe them off, and we
would never As a matter of fact, there never was
a Texas Oh the whole state. No, there's never a
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University of Texas. There so much so someone would go,
why don't we just start at University of Texas here
in Austin. I'd be like to go for it because
there would be no rememberance of interesting. I would wipe
them off for the map, respectfully, of course. Respect Hey Mike,
you going to the game? Yeah, I'm going Texas Florida. Yeah,
that'd be fun. That'd be fun. Like I hate Texas,
but it'd be fun to be a Texas fan because
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they have such an original color and they win.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Is Texas yours? What do you mean is that your?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah? Yeah, I feel like it's double checking. We should
have You know how when I have a state places Michigan,
they always block out the M or they don't say it,
you know, they have all these things. I feel like
we should do that with Texas in general, or just
the letter T. We will say a single word. Mine's
all just so jealous and jealousy coming from a broke
state that doesn't win and we see rich big brother
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Texas just dominating with like a cool color. I think
our color is cooler because I love red, but like
Tennessee and Texas have an original color that's pretty cool
to have, like like it.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Do you put Miami's orange in that same category?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
No, I can't see the difference as why I think so. No,
But not because I'm a hater on it, because I
don't think I see the difference because to me, I
think it looks the same as other oranges. Burnt orange
in Texas does not look like any other orange to me. Yeah,
and Tennessee orange suck of orange orange like the vall
orange that is that's different.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
What's the name of that orange?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Suckle orange, suck orange. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,
so I'm wiping Texas off. Kevin, you said Miami Eddie,
you said, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Going to Ohio State. I feel that I'm going to
Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Like, who likes Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I really don't think they're that good and justice for Army.
I think Army should be in that spot. They're undefeated.
Put Army in there instead of Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
If I think if Army, well, okay, let me say
a couple of things Ohio State should be in. I
don't think that Army has to have that spot specifically. Well,
but I hear what. It's just my dream getting your point. No,
I hear you. I hate I hate Ohio State the
reason Kevin hates Alabama. I don't actually hate Ohio State.
I just hate that they always win and get the
benefit of the doubt. Yes, I have no problem like emotionally,
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I am not like an anti Ohio State guy. I
actually like the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Do you know anyone that loves Ohio State like personally?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes, I do, Yeah, Oh of course, yeah, Gary love
o Rascal flats massive Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Oh I didn't think about him yeah, I don't know.
I didn't know he's a big fan. But like I
think of my close circle of friends, we got Texas fans,
we got Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Fans born in Texas. Your regional it's region.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, but I live in Tennessee. Now, I got a
big Valls fan over here in Kevin read Arkansas State.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Maybe I think I went to the games, two.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Games Syracuse, Casey. You know, but no one likes Ohio
State in my circle of friends.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So but what does that say?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I just get him out of there, get him.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
Out of there.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, No, Ohio State is a jealousy hatred. They spent
the most money. Although I will say this, and I
don't hate Ohio State, but I hate Ohio State because
they get the benefit of the doubt. But I don't
hate Ohio State. You don't hate no. And I'm heck
I kind of rooting for Ryan Day because everybody hates
against him, hates on them. But this is my issue now,
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is that I watched an Arkansas basketball game. We're taping
this on Thursday afternoon. I watch an Arkansas basketball game
last night. It's weird because now we have a really
high profile, expensive coach. We have a lot of nil money.
We are highly functioning with that nil money. We have
great players. It's weird. I'm struggling with it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
What's weird about it? Because I don't think you're hated.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
No, no, we're not. We're not hated yet. Yeah. Yet.
I think there's an expectation. We weren't even picked first
in the SEC, but there's an expectation because you saw
the poll, like, coaches, which basketball programs do you have
the most faith in? That? And it's Arkansas number one?
And so I don't think it's this year only, but
there will be an expectation because all the money. But
we're we're going to end up being the villain if
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we win. Yeah, now it's cal yeah, but that's gonna
be awesome, dude, I don't know if we will know.
I'm not used to that. It feels funny to me
if you win, like that's going to be amazing, yeah,
and that you become the village. We've been the underdog, underfinanced,
little engine that could for so long my whole life
that it feels weird where I'm like, I'm watching a
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guy that I know we paid a million bucks for
and I own money, I play, and I'm like, how
does this make me feel great that we actually do it?
Speaker 9 (20:07):
Or like do I do?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I want to be the lovable loser that proves everybody wrong.
I don't know. I'm in I'm having an identity crisis.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
To completely different worlds.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
But I'm also like heading on Texas being rich at
the same time, and I'm like it's completely irrational.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You know what was weird though, is he was uh.
I used to seeing him kind of just wear like
a jogging suit caw, yeah cow, but not not not
in the Arkansas game, like his first game he wore suit.
He looked nice, you ever, like a nice little red jacket.
I've never seen him dressed like that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Him wearing red was really weird for a long time.
Now I've seen it so much, like on my feeds,
it's starting to be kind of normal. But he's blue
to me, not even blue, not just Kentucky but Memphis right,
Like he's he's been, he's been blue. You can go back,
where was your mass.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, that's kind of reddish burgundy.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It is, but that was a long time ago. That
was like I don't remember that back. I only do
because we played at Arkansas. We played them because if
I'm not thinking of Patino, I have a Patino mixed
up a bunch.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah Patino did Providence.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Right, Yeah, and they both were up and freaking the
Northeast where only losers come from. I'm just kickingss, you know.
But yeah, so okay, it's interesting is I'm having an
identity crisis. We haven't even won, meaning as a as
a program, and I'm are like, I don't know if
I like winning.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, we haven't even won, and I'm like, winning feels weird.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, So there's that. That's what's in my mind. I
do want to now go to our guy. We love
Kansas State, and so we talked to Chris Climbing, the
head coach. We did an episode last year with him
of Too Much Access, and we love the program. We
already liked the people because we know a lot of
Kansas folks, but after going there, like we have become
fans of him. And then he won four consecutive FCS
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championships in North Dakota State got hired a Kansas State
in twenty eighteen, and we talked, I got a nice
note from him last night. Oh did you really nice?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Such a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It was like, it was so cool to talk to
you guys because of how you talk to us. Basically
was the note, which I honestly, how do you talk
to me? Well, they're probably like, oh, it's such as
you were like, oh no, no, but you'll hear I
did it in Spanish.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
The end.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I think it's because mostly people think that we have
this like fresh approach on interviews. We're just idiots. Yeah,
I mean, for the most part, we're just asking like
what dumb guys would ask, because that's what we're not
trying to act smarter than we are. And then like
manifest the approach was so fresh, and I'm like, you know,
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we really uh strategize that approach.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Coach, That's really how we are.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, very here. Uh the Wildcats are seven and two
on the season, still in the help for the Big twelve,
even at the end because I waited till the end
of this interview to ask him about the loss of Houston. Yeah,
I just I love the guy. I love the guy,
I love the program. Here he is. Here's coach. Hey, coach,
good to see you. Thank you for the time. How
you doing, Hey, pretty good? I do want to go
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back a year or so. We were working out with
Cooper b B when were up there with you guys.
You keep up with Cooper at all with Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
Absolutely, he's come back for at least two games, but no,
probably weekly. We send a text back and forth. Super
proud of him being the starting center in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Man crazy too because and Cooper and I follow each
other on Instagram since then and when he was drafted,
obviously super pumped for him. But the transition, and maybe
you could add a little of this, the transition because
he did not play center for you, but now he's
playing center with the Cowboys. How hard is that to
do on the offensive line?
Speaker 9 (23:39):
It's really hard. But the fact that he played all
four positions, but that I think lent himself to understanding
all the positions and knew that he could because he
was the guy that communicated all of our checks and
adjustments and IDs and stuff. Anyway, and all along when
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he was here and continue to get better and better,
people kept asking us, do you think he can be
a center? Do you think he can be a center?
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Well?
Speaker 9 (24:08):
Yeah, we did. From a mental side of things now
from a physical side of things, he just had to
put the time into it. And obviously he did that
because to make that transition and be the start, be
named the starter by week one was pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
So teams were reaching out to you to ask if
they if you thought like his mental capacity was that
of a center, so more so was it a size,
Like why were teams looking at him as a center all.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
The fact that he's not six foot six and six '
five and stuff. He's a you know, I don't know
what is he six three and a half six ' four,
And they knew he would be an interior guy somewhere.
And the center position is so valuable, so hard to
find that when you have somebody with the acumen that
he has of understanding the game and understanding defensive fronts
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and being able to communicate. I thought it was going
to be an natural for him to be able to
move inside there. Then he just had to, you know,
work on the physical side of getting the snaps and movement.
And I knew he could do it because he's such
a great athlete too.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Is there ever a time with a player when you
will modify a bit of how they play or what
they do for the next level, even though it may
not be completely advantageous to what you're doing right then.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
Not completely, but I also have a responsibility to give
these guys the best opportunity to have success at that
next level, and if it can fit with what we're
doing as a team, yes, absolutely. We had a guy
that actually started for the Bucks the other night named
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Josh Hayes. He's a safety slash corner and I had
him at North Zkota State and he was a corner
and then we got him out of the transfer portal
to come here and he assumed he was going to
play corner and I said, Josh, we're going to play
you at safety here. A. It's going to help us
be a better team, but B I think it's going
to market you better in the NFL because you're not
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a six foot three guy that's two hundred and fifteen pounds.
That's a corner that a lot of the teams are
looking for. Josh is a six foot, one hundred and
ninety five pound kid, And I said, if you can
cover slot guys, you're going to have a place in
the NFL. So it's not only going to help our team,
but it's going to help your draft status, and they
end up getting drafted maybe in the fourth or fifth
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round by the Bucks. And I think he's in his
third year now and now he's a starter for him.
But his ability to move and showcase what he could
do as a safety rather than a corner helped us
as a team and helped him in the draft.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What's Avery Johnson like as a dude?
Speaker 9 (26:45):
Gosh, A, He's awesome. He's so much fun to be around.
He's the unquestioned leader on the offense, but he's very confident,
has some swagger, but he's not a cocky kid. He's
a guy that you know the room lights up when
he comes in, but he doesn't want that, if that
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makes sense. He doesn't want to be the center of attention.
He's just always going to be. Some of it is
his hair, right, He's going to be the center of
attention because of his hair. But he's a very humble,
driven kid. That what people don't see about Avery is
all the things that he does in our community for youth,
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for disability, children, for people in need. I know he's
helping a principle back home that was diagnosed with cancer,
of raising money those are the things that he's not
putting out on social media but maybe should be emphasized
a little bit more because it's not just about the football.
The football is just a very small part of his life.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
When you look for a leader, like what are those qualities?
And the leadership qualities can be very different. I mean
we have them even here amongst this organization. Like what
are the qualities that you see in leaders that you
feel like go best with your program.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
For starters that have to be able to hold themselves accountable,
it's always easy to say the best player and the
work ethic and his last one off the field and
the first one on the field. You know, those are
the things that people I think think about, but I
think of it as one he's one that holds himself
accountable and he's not going to talk the talk unless
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he can walk the walk. And we have a kid
named Austin Moore that's one of our captains that epitomizes
what a what.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
A leader is.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
And when I call when I say a leader, he's
a servant leader and the fact that he makes everybody
around him better because of his presence. And the best
leaders are ones that really don't care if at the
end of the day we're going to be best friends
for the next forty years, You're going to respect me
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because I'm going to hold myself accountable, but I'm not
going to be afraid to hold you accountable. And you know,
in our sport, in college, kids have three, four or
five years to make a legacy, and you can make
a ton of friends, and you're already going to make
a ton of friends. But the only way you're going
to make a legacy is if you have success. And
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the only way you're going to have success is by
holding your peers accountable. And that's what I find in
the best leaders is they can hold themselves accountable. They
can walk the walk, but they are not afraid to
call out their best friend, not afraid to call out
a teammate that is maybe equally as talented. It's easy
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to call the guys that maybe aren't as good or
don't do things the right way. But when you can
call out the other best players and they respect you
for it, that's the best sign of leadership.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm going to get in the weeds a little here
because I respect your entire career as a coach and
what you've built every level. But I want to talk
about practice tape. So you're a practice, you're doing what
you do, you're ceoing, you're making sure that the macro
things are done right. Do you ever get on and
watch some tape and see somebody that maybe you did
not know was competing at a higher level than maybe
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you wouldn't have caught if you didn't see it on tape.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
One hundred percent. I do it every day, And not
only do you have to do it, but you have
to recognize that individual or those individuals for their efforts.
And a simple thing would be we have our Scout
Team Players of the Week every week, the guys that
aren't playing but gave us a chance to be successful
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by the look that they gave us each day that
week that maybe we're down a defensive tackle and he
had to take every rep in practice for the Scout team,
or a linebacker whatever, maybe as well as special teams.
And I think it's important that not only myself, but
some of our best players thank those guys and recognize
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those guys. We have a neat deal that we do
after wins in the locker room where we hand out
a hammer. Because we talked about pounding the stone all
the time. We hand out a hammer to somebody and
then they get to recognize somebody, and oftentimes it's a
defensive lineman that is recognizing Hey, scout team offensive lineman
and so and so or scout team wide receiver as
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a defensive back. Thank you for pushing me this week, man,
you made me better. But I think you have to
recognize those guys and they have to know that they're
a valued part of your organization and program.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I want to ask you about your dad for a second.
What do you think you've taken from him, even if
you don't realize until you got older that you had,
like as a.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Coach, competitiveness and toughness not even in question. My dad's
the toughest man I know. Because of some of the
things that he's been through, through health situations, through mentions,
I probably caused some of his mental anguished at times.
But he's the toughest guy I know, and he's never
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going to let you let somebody else know that something's
bothering him. I probably don't do as good a job that.
I don't do as good a job of that. I
wear my heart on my sleeve a little bit more
than my dad ever did, but that's a different era too.
And then the competitiveness of you know, we go to
play Oklahoma and my dad, this is gonna be a
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tough one. Man. I don't know my first year, We
don't know if we're on the same field as these guys.
And you know, BS, yeah you are, but you got
to convince your guys of that. You got to make
sure that your guys know that you believe in them,
that you are a better team. And if you all
come together and you play your tail off with each other,
you got every bit of an opportunity to beat a
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team like that. And so he's still at eighty five
years old, the best armchair quarterback I have.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Does he text you at all? And does he use emojis?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
No?
Speaker 9 (33:04):
No, my dad wouldn't use an emoji, but he'll text me.
But I always know him in trouble or he wants
to talk to me when he either leaves me a
voicemail or sends me a text, and it starts with Christopher.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Oh full name. He gets you with the full name?
Speaker 9 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Christopher, Why don't you give me a call?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Big twelves new this year, like, yeah, you know a
lot a lot of new teams having to go to
new places. How has it been with the new Big twelve.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
For you guys, it's been a really neat experience. It's
I think it's phenomenal for fan bases. I gotta be
honest with you. The travel sucks, right, I mean that's
what we knew that, But we had to progress in
our league to keep up with the Joneses. So the
travel has been not a whole lot of fun because
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we're kind of like we're the old Pac twelve at night.
Now we're the Big twelve at night, So go to
BYU and get home at six in the morning. Which
was a great environment. So much respect for Clownie Sataki
and what he's done, and they've deserved all the recognition
they're getting. But what a great environment that was. Going
to Colorado and the coach Prime is done a phenomenal
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job there. That place was electric. We found a way
to sneak out of there with a win. But it
was a cool environment in a beautiful setting, and it
was it was fun.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
You know.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
We've gone to some of the other ones, and we
have a few more teams in this league that we
haven't played or seen for a long long time here,
and I think it's healthy for college football. The only
thing I don't like about when you say the new
Big Twelve, the new PACK, or the new ACC, the
new SEC, all these new leagues. The only thing I
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don't like about it is I don't know if we're
going to truly get a true champion when not everybody
plays each other. And I don't know if in the
Big Ten the top teams play each other across the board.
Maybe they do. I don't pay attention to enough schedules,
but you know Iowa State doesn't play BYU Well, nobody knew,
but those two are the better teams in the league.
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We don't play Texas Tech and Texas Tech or and
on US or up towards the top of the league.
And I know that that's part of it. We just
can't control that. But that's something that I wish we
could get rectified a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, the SEC is doing that too, where they you know,
East and West until this year. But it almost makes
more sense because of that, right, I mean, and inequality
and schedule to put the divisions again, because at least
the entire division could play each other and the two
winners could play each other. So almost it's like you're
reversing to go forward because you're right if there are
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advantages for certain teams every year, and there will be,
and that will be something you constantly have to face.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Yeah, and we can't control that, and rather than complain
about it or anything, you know, nobody knows what the
league's going to be like, and that's the prognostication of
this team is going to be the best team, and
we get into August, nobody has any idea. I mean,
nobody knew what Indiana was going to be. I'm sure
that their players and their staff probably thought we're going
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to have a really good team, but nobody knows how
those transfers are going to fit in and how the
new players are going to adapt and fit into the program.
So you're right, it's going to be hard. And now
we play these teams and then I know we're not
playing BYU next year. I can't think who else we're
not playing. But it's like, Okay, you get a game
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with them and you don't see them for two years,
and it's good that we're still playing Like KU and
Iowa State, Oklahoma State, some of our regional rivalries. But
we went to West Virginia again after not seeing them
in twenty three. We played at their place in twenty two,
didn't play them in twenty three, and then they had
to go back there in twenty four. So you're going
to have some of those imbalances where you're going to
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go to the same place two of three years because
of just how they worked the schedule.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I have two final questions for you. I was watching
the CFP whenever they announced the rankings. There you're ranked nineteen.
How high do you think you need to get if
you know, obviously, if you win the Big twelve, you
get in, but where do you think you need to
land in order.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
To get in? Well, that'd be the easiest path, without
a doubt, is to win the Big twelve. I will
be really disappointed if a two loss Big twelve school
gets to the championship game and gets beat and doesn't
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get in and that.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Third loss counts against them, is what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
Yeah, yeah, when you may not even play in the
game and you could get in, but you play in
that game and maybe BYU runs the table and ends
up thirteen, and oh, obviously they're going to get in.
But maybe maybe a team loses to them, that that's
their third loss that they maybe would have gotten in
had they not even played the game. Somebody in the SEC,
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in the Big ten.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
It is what it is.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
I mean, I'm not naive enough I understand the landscape
of college football where those two conferences are at, is
going to get in because.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
They did play in that game.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It does feel counterproductive to penalize a team from making
it to the championship game when they lose the championship game,
because that you're right, may that absolutely could happen. You
could go, well, there's a three beside their name now,
not a two, so we're going to go and hold
them out for another two that didn't make it because
of a tiebreaker or so exactly.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
Yeah, and I wish you could and Bobby within the
next couple of years. I don't know when this thing ends.
It's got to go to sixteen teams don't have buys
and get sixteen teams in there, and then you could say, hey,
the four Power four conferences, if you're in that championship game,
there's your first eight. Those guys are in. I don't
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care how you got there because You're probably not going
to get in there at seven and five anyway, You're
going to be a ten and two, nine and three team,
whatever it is. They might as well just put those
eight teams in and then figure out the eight.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
After that last question, tough at Houston. What do you
say to your team after that game?
Speaker 9 (39:04):
Don't let it define you? Very similar to after BYU.
It's hard to win in college football. I mean it
is you. There's so much parody with the age of
the transfer portal and stuff. You have to be prepared
and put your best foot forward and play really good
football every week. Same thing. We got beat at BYU,
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and I said, guys, this game can't define us. We
can't let BYU beat us twice. And then we won
four in a row and played pretty good football. Okay,
we lost a lot of things and starts with me,
and we've got to find ways to correct those things.
But we can't let that game beat us twice. We're
fortunately we have an open week this week. We got
a lot of guys banged up, so does everybody in
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the country, a lot of guys banged up. We get
a chance to at least catch our breath, get some
guys healthy for these last three weeks.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Coach, I think I've watched seven of your games, Like
I'm a family legit fan now and also my team sucks,
so I'm a legit fan. I've seen, Yeah, got a
good life. We saw, we saw, but it gives me
more time to fand with Kansas State and all of
us here like we loved being there. We're massive fans
of you guys. I know you got three games left
and off week this week, so we appreciate the time,
but just want to say, like we are genuinely and
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loudly rooting for you guys, So thank you for the time.
Speaker 9 (40:14):
Coach, appreciate you having me on. This is a big
thing for a program to be on your show. And
can't thank you guys for being fans of Case State.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
All right, Coach Sea, thank you. All right, let's do
the parlay. We'll do three teams this week because we
did four last week. But we're not on the app
then if we only do three, right, correct, I just
don't let four? We got sad? Why like being on
the app? Man, It's like I can't click on it
because I'm still locked out, but I can see it.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
We might have already committed to Mike, what do we
do here? Can we do four? And they put us
on the app? I could see.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
I know we're slated for later in the month to
be on the app again, you guys.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
And then were we at the end of the app?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Dude? We were last place? And you know what, I
don't blame them, sure, I get it, get it. They
were like, we like your fresh approach. I'm betting we're like,
you know what, We're just idiots. It's not a pressure approach.
We'll do We'll do four because I want reed to
be a part of it.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Do you guys know your teams?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah? I got mine. I got mine.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
But I hope you guys he's looking for the first
time that's the problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got mine. Okay,
got go with you. Cut. Let's do a little parlay here, Kevin,
you go first.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
I'm gonna go the undefeated b Yu Cougars. The Cougars, right,
the Cougars plus three and a half at Utah. That'd
be a pretty fun game. Or minus three and a half,
I'm sorry minus, I said plus minus three and a half.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
That'd be a pretty fun game, rivalry game. Okay, Eddie,
check it out.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
We're going Texas, your favorite team minus twenty one and
a half against Florida. But they're home, so we got that.
Oh it should be a mess.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
And Mike, you're going to the game.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
What are you getting there tomorrow afternoon?
Speaker 5 (42:06):
That's awesome that I guess.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
And the fact that Mike's gonna be there special juju
read mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I think I may go South Carolina minus four against Vandy.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Oh you know you're going against our commodorees.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Dude, I love them, but it's paid too much. Chick
your team. I'm gonna go South Carolina minus four. Since
it's not on the app, you can actually just not
use reeds. I guess that's true. You can build your
own out. Yeah okay, and then uh, it's you. I
know what game is going to hit, but it's not
as sexy. It's not as fine of a pick. Oh
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that's okay. I think I picked the Army last time. Yeah,
but that's sexy. I love America all right? Like this
this game is automatic. I think Vegas has fell asleep
and they're making this line. Samuson State. Mississippi State is
playing in Knoxville at Tennessee. Tennessee is a twenty four
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point favorite. Mississippi State sucks.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
I'll be there.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
You're going to that one.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, we could have beat them by one hundred. Yeah,
Tennessee minus twenty four.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Kevin, you don't think that's a lot? I mean no,
I had twenty one and a half and you're like
that's a lot.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Well, Florida is a better, much better team. Thansissippi State
City State, They're awful. Yeah, but Florida. I think they're
on like their fourth quarterback now, so that hurts.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, right, I did see. It's like we're playing I
don't think so. The fact they even brought up that
he might was surprising to me. I thought he was
going to be out multiple weeks.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
Same and they have some transfer from Yale. I want
to yeah, like a walk on from Yale. Yeah, I think, yeah,
I think smart guy.
Speaker 8 (43:42):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
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slash b ball. All right, so here's our talk with
Charlotte Hornet's power forward Grant Williams, which, by the way,
he's been hilarious this season. You been watching him?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yah uh uh?
Speaker 5 (44:43):
You see him push tato.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yes, he's just like trolling. It's so funny. Grant played
at Tennessee, where he was All American before being drafted
by the Celtics in the first round of twenty nineteen.
You can follow Grant on Instagram at Grant will two.
Here is Hornets Power Forward Grant Williams Grant good to
see you, appreciate you time, thanks for having me. How
often do you just walk down the street and somebody's like,
sign it?
Speaker 8 (45:04):
It happened a lot, and New York has more I
feel like the normal. But that's just because it's the
sports city.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Is it weird? Because on a much lower level, like
if I'm gonna do it like a comedy show or
music show, people will bring stuff and I know they're
going to sell it. Like I it's like when a
fifty three year old dude comes up with something to sign,
like I know and my stuff wone goes for as
much as yours. So no, no, no, But isn't it
doesn't that feel a little weird? Like you know, all
(45:29):
you're doing sign is something that some dude is just
probably gonna flip real quick.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
It depends. Like I always check, like when I'm in
during the season. Is if I see a blue marker,
a Tipty don't sign. So if it's black or gold
or something like that, sign it, But blue I Tippy
don't sign. Why that blue is what gets sold? That's
what I got told like you think about Plini cards.
We sign a blue marker and everything that typically, like
you see online, it's to be in blue.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
So I'll tell my son not to carry a blue marker.
Speaker 8 (45:52):
Yeah, they don't care about blue markers. We're pretty pretty
good on getting the segnature.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
So we live in Nashville, Tennessee. I don't know how
you about Barnes. How do you feel about the program now?
Speaker 8 (46:02):
I feel like they're doing great. I don't know how
much how many years Barnes got left in them. I
feel like if they if Yanna being bad, I feel
like Barnes gonna step away. But I think that at
the same time, they're They're one of the best teams
in the country every year, so they'll stay competitive. This
year is gonna be different because there's team full of
transfers and freshmen. So I'm excited because Barnes is gonna
be able to do with that group. And I wish
years past adult year is probably the best year to
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do it.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
What about Nil, Do you wish that had been way
more prevalent whenever whenever you were playing?
Speaker 8 (46:27):
Yeah, let's just say I was a three star recruit,
so it's not like I was getting paid out of
high school as some guys. So when if I would
definitely went back, I definitely would have made probably two
million dollars or something like that that year after my
especially after the two back to back and see Player
of the Years. But and now yell didn't kick in
until two years after I left school, so after COVID
technically could have been a super senior, but I wouldn't
have wanted to be in school that long.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
As far as fitness goes, what do you do when
it's not time to do you officially? Like how are
you staying in shape?
Speaker 8 (46:55):
Honestly, it starts with just like the biking and stuff
like that, Like I go like trying to stay active, walks. Honestly,
I enjoy being in Europe because walkable city. New York
places like that because you can get around, use metro,
subway and just kind of move around. I'm not really
the guy that walks around with security or really worries
about anything. So that's probably the reason why I love
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being in the city like this. So it's been really fun.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
When the season gets closer, how do you change your regimen?
Speaker 8 (47:21):
Ramp up everything else? Die? It's probably the number one
thing for me because it's working out I always will do.
But eating is probably my biggest kryptonite. So figuring out
what you're eating, how much you're eating, that's probably my
number one thing for fitness.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
How many shots you need to get up a session.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
Do you have a number or it's more so feel
But at the same time, I typic get like two
hundred and three hundred at least in that one time
of day, and I maybe I'll go back, but you know,
over time those thousands, And it depends on what time
the season you're in and what you think you need.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
What do you feel like you bring now at this
stage of your career, honestly.
Speaker 8 (47:55):
Just a veteran mentality, defense, physicality, shooting, spacing, and honestly
just hopefully a chance of winning, like a winning mentality
and culture to be able to set you.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
When you say a veteran a really young team like
until Van Fleet went to Houston, like that was.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
A very very very young team.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yes, are there Do teams actually need veterans to keep
people in line?
Speaker 8 (48:19):
It's not even about keeping people on line, but I
think it's necessary because it gives guy's perspective and it
also gives guys a blueprint. You know, when you're just
a young group, a young group of guys, you're all
competing for the same spots. You're not really worried about winning,
you're not really caring about team Outlook, you're worried about
what girl you're going to talk to, and you don't
know what girl to avoid. It's just a lot going on.
So honestly, it's crucial we have vets on every team.
(48:39):
It's something that I'm actually trying to talk to the
league about and make sure that it's either a staple
or something like that going on. Because having the Times
Gipps and the Markeuith Morris, you don't as has them
like play people like that in the locker room gives
you not any the history of the league and what
you've been through, but also might give you perspective during
the game. Like when I got to Charlotte, I was like, Brandon,
get to know the referees, like no one's ever told
him that.
Speaker 9 (48:59):
But like talk to under names.
Speaker 8 (49:00):
If you call it, mister rough, you're gonna be with
them for the next twenty years of your life. Like
these guys don't change, so get to know them. So
like These are the things that I feel like when
you're a young team, you don't really get to hear
and veterans, I think are really crucial to every team
in the league.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Year one to year two. You're talking about Brandon Miller,
I'm assuming, yes, like Nick Smith, you know those kind
of guys. Year one, I'm assuming, eyes wide open, like
it's just I'm in the freaking NBA and making money.
What's the difference in growth even from your year oneder
year two? What will they experience going into the second year.
Speaker 8 (49:28):
It's that second year where everybody kind of understands your
game now and you have to continue to improve. My
first year, I wasn't necessarily labeled as a shooter, and
that second year I came in as a really good shooter.
And it's just a matter of continued improvement and trying
to make your mark of the league. Because you might
have a great first year. I had a great rookie year.
My second year wasn't what I wanted it to be.
So it's just a matter of maintaining that same consiste
of mentality, of competitiveness and honestly focusing in on what's
(49:51):
important and making sure that basketball is your main thing.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Can you actually, if you focus on a specific skill,
can you returned to the NBA the next year with
a new skill in your bag that they were not
used to you having last year?
Speaker 9 (50:06):
Absolutely, Like I.
Speaker 8 (50:06):
Think I've improved year over year, especially with my handle
on perime, their skills, play making ability and then shooting
for sure in my life, and honestly just getting more
comfortable on the floor and understanding where your strengths are,
what spots do you want to get to And it
takes time. You know, some of their best players don't
really have their best years to their eighth ninth year.
So you with a guy like Jeremy Grant, he's always improved.
(50:27):
There's always gonna be that continued improvement. There's especially when
you're young. I was a twenty year old rookie and
people thought I was old like I was twenty four.
I was like, nope, I'm probably the same mate supposed to.
These guys went to school for three years, So there's
always something you can improve on. And I think that,
you know, you I always make the joke, you know,
people made fun of JV's left hand that year and
then all of a sudden next year is all he
was doing was dropping left, so you can really improve
(50:48):
your game.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Last question, as a kid watching basketball, like you're Mount Rushmore,
the four players that you watch the most.
Speaker 8 (50:54):
It's funny because you're gonna laugh at my names because
none of them were the cool ones, Like I was
a Boris yeahl fan. Wow, Yeah, I was a funny
because Raymond Green with time, it was one of my
favorite players. Honestly, I enjoyed guys that were my position
with my size, so honestly, Chuck Hayes was another name.
And the last one, at least a guy that I
(51:15):
could never play like was Jamal Crawford.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Was there a chance for you to ever with your
first year or two in the league, you ever get
to do something cool like like in the Olympics, we
saw Katie throw out.
Speaker 8 (51:25):
Oh, I was there this past year or this year.
Speaker 9 (51:27):
I was interviewing the guys.
Speaker 8 (51:28):
I have video of me after the game because I
was in Olympics dot Com, so I was able to
be down there after Steph and all those different games.
I was asking questions like part of my French Steve kerrsay,
what that were you doing here?
Speaker 9 (51:40):
And I was like, I was like, you know, I'm
just on the media side, have a good time.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Do that in a game there we're like somebody that
was a hero of yours. You you know, throwm an
alu or play against him, and you were like, this
is kind of cool? Is in my life?
Speaker 9 (51:51):
First my rookie hero was Kimba Walker.
Speaker 8 (51:53):
I grew up in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I watched
Kimball as I grew up, and then all of a sudden,
I get drafted the South as he signs there, Like
I told him worries about how he was at Providence
Day School of working out and I was the ninth
grade kid walked up till introduced myself and he had
no idea and remember it. But he was the nicest
guy to me at basketball Camps two when I was young.
And it's just like I told him, I said, these
things matter. So that's why I try to tell every
(52:14):
rookie like, you never know who you're gonna meet, you
never know who you're gonna talk to, So try to
treat everybody with respect. And at the end of the day,
you might change someone's whole directory of their life. Just
buy one conversation.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
That's how I feel about you and me right now,
you changed my whole. That's one conversation. I appreciate your
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heck of a show. So far. Boys got two final
things to talk about. Number one, the new pickleball rankings
have been released. Casey, do you play pickleball?
Speaker 4 (53:51):
I never actually played pickleball, but I dabbled in tennis.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
We definitely, I know you've said that before. We definitely
would let you play with us. We're not like having
a group chat and letting you watch us have the
group chat without being a part of it.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Yeah, next time you guys do it, let me know.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Problem is, it gets pretty competitive. You almost need a
couple of Eddie's one of the Goldfitch. I love it, dude,
Well I have to.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
I'm I'm the goal and I didn't show up to
the last session, so you've ranked. Obviously, you need to
become a part of us. You's got to get a
couple reps in. Yeah, maybe it's just like.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
You come over. We still a little a little hit card,
just a little hit and learn, teaching the teaching, the rules.
Do you know the rules of pick a ball? No?
Speaker 3 (54:31):
Have you heard of the kitchen?
Speaker 9 (54:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Stay out of a mother?
Speaker 5 (54:35):
Yeah, I don't even think about it.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Here and I need to do this. I need to
do this. Dramatic for the clip, for the internet clip too.
Here are the new pickleball rankings as of the date
of insert date here. Dramatic thank you. Number one, still
holding me, thank you, No surprise there. Number two country
(55:02):
superstar George Burge, superstard. He's got one number one lead
that in the clip when Eddie, Yeah, number two, more
than we have. Number three, first time on the list.
Music producer Ross Kopperman, Oh wow, yes, first time and
(55:25):
he shows up at number three. He has this three
three appearances, he has this three. You gotta have three
appearances to make the list. He had his third appearance.
You were not there on Sunday. M hm mm hmm.
Ross Copperman probably has like twenty number one songs.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
It's a lot of number ones.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
At number four, kickoff Kevin number four, though, I'll take that.
I can challenge for three and two.
Speaker 5 (55:49):
I'll take that. I had a rough day on Wednesday,
rough day.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, pounded a pretty good and George yeah yeah, gonna lie.
Speaker 8 (55:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
At number five, he's a human, he's also a Gator. Gator.
Harrison dies at number six of eight the former Goldfish
read you read it, number six and rankings.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
I think very good.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
At number seven, falling because of injury, Kevin Klue. Now,
he did play in a tournament over the weekend that
wasn't us, and he played pretty well. That doesn't count,
but correct. But he's been injured and he's still, i think,
on one leg, better than the next person. Oh, that's weird.
At number eight, wearing the Goldfish, the lowest last in
(56:44):
the league, the caboose Eddie, everybody, I'm sorry, Eddie, he's
wearing the Goldfish.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
I'm coming against you boys, though, I will be coming
doing some training in my backyard. I didn't take much
to take over right in front of me here. Yeah,
I got a wonder guy I got Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I mean you can move up, you can move on.
So that is the current pickleball list of whatever we
can play whenever, whenever you guys want because our train
I mean clothes out of town for whatever days. Oh,
so we can get him. No, I'm saying we can
play whenever we're normally supposed to work out.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
You don't play today?
Speaker 1 (57:21):
What time three?
Speaker 9 (57:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Maybe like two thirty? Okay, could you do that? Yeah?
Possibly falling down the ranks.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
That's okay, read the most important question doing.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
The podcast with us today. We got to find a
fourth though, that can play normally. We'll see George's into town. Yeah,
I can text Ross. Okay, we'll see what's up.
Speaker 9 (57:43):
Let me know.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
We'll see if I can find a fourth because we've
got Mike can have a podcast. We have to go
do anyway in a few minutes and then uh and
we're doing one now too. It's all that's all I do. Okay,
So thank you. That's pickleball rankings, and I'm gonna do
one more thing and it's still something I'm dabbling with.
I call it the oddly numbered list. It's a list
(58:04):
of things that just has an odd number to the list.
And my oddly numbered list this week is most irrelevant
NFL teams and the list is well, only four teams.
It's an odd number for a list. I know, these
are the four most irrelevant teams according to me. At
number four, the Raiders. They don't have a quarterback. Well,
(58:30):
and that makes you pretty irrelevant. Yeah that's all you need.
Speaker 5 (58:33):
Yeah, that'll do it.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
They don't win. That hurts. Also, they're in a city
where there's so much going on. Unless you're really good,
you kind of you just exist. You don't matter. There's
a difference in existing and mattering. And the Raider they
have a star on brock Bowers. They have a star
on Max Crosby. But unless you have a quarterback, you
(58:55):
don't have much. They don't have a coach as far
as like a coach that has any winning under his belt.
I mean he went in as the interim last year.
They have a big owner, the son, the son of
the Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Oh got Tom, which is ironic. No quarterback, but you
got the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
So newe though, he's so new. Number four on my list,
the Raiders. At number three the Titans. Oh, and that's
hard to do because they we can see their freaking
house right here. Well, you look out the window and
there they are. But when you don't win, and even
when they were winning, they were just kind of winning
(59:32):
and they were winning very boring.
Speaker 8 (59:35):
They were.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
It wasn't there was no nothing dynamic about when even
when the Titans had that decent team, the low like
the the logo the Titan. It's kind of boring.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
Now everything's kind of boring. Yeah, when it wasn't before.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
Really, yeah, it's all good. It did like nobody cares
about I'll just say us because we're here. Nobody cares
about the Titans, good or bad. Nobody hates the Titans.
And unless you're like a super fan, love you live here,
nobody loves them. And that's the worst one. There's no
feeling about you. You want people to hate you because
you you want people to feel at you like I do. Texas.
Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
It's like people feel good for them when they win, like,
oh good for them.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Oh those yeah, I look at you got I know.
And that's what the Titans have right now. Number three
irrelevant franchises, the Tennessee Titans. Number two the Arizona Cardinals,
and you know, they even have a quarterback. But they're
in a weird time zone, so that affects when you're
(01:00:36):
not good and they kind of are supposed to be
good and then they get a draft pick that's supposed
to and they don't even get them the ball. It's
just a bunch of weird that. There's always weirdness with
that group. They fire Cliff and Cliff Cliff like rebuilds.
When they get the grades for like cafeteria food and equipment,
they're like d's and f's and it's weird. Like whatever's
(01:00:58):
happening out there is just weird.
Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
The entire state of Arizona when it comes to sports, like,
do you ever really think.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
About your i' me thinking about that?
Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Now made the World Series and you forget you forget. Yeah,
their hockey team left them, they went to Utah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Who were they the Coyotes?
Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
And then their basketball team, the whistle Chasers. You don't
even know them. Their NBA team, you never heard of them.
That's how much you don't even know exactly. So the Cardinals,
and that's a tough one because they do have a quarterback.
People should know and feel good, h I.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Got a great tight end.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Do you have a dude?
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
But Marvin Harrison Junior?
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
They have and they're it's still they're not. Yeah. And
number two the Arizona Cardinals, and my number one is
obviously and easily the Carolina Panthers. That is a black
hole for anybody that goes to that team that has
a future ahead of them, because they don't anymore. You
want to go there in your twilight years. You want
(01:01:51):
to go there because they'll actually pay for you and
other teams won't. And this is no shot like an
Adam Deelon because I think I was thinking, like I
don't feel it could have gone and been the number
four receivers a lot of places. But when he left Minnesota,
where did he go to be the number two, one
and a half the Panthers because they were gonna pay
it because nobody wants to go there, so they'll pay people.
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah, they want to leave so bad they go to
the Cowboys. Johnathan Mingo, your boy Mingo.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I like Mingo though, I really do. And I think
the reason that some people don't is because he's been
a Panther. Sure, Like, don't hold against him what he
hasn't been able to do when his whole team hasn't
been able to do. Look at Baker, everybody gave up
on him. Look at Sam Darnold, everybody gave up on them.
I think Johnathan Mingo is going to the Cowboys kind
of suck.
Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
But but think Cooper Rush and Johnathan Mingo can take
us to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Trey Lance, if it's Trey Lance, they've given up.
Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Yeah, but it'd be fun. I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Why not, I can sign up for that. I would
like to see it too. But if the Cowboys still
want to actually play to try to make the playoffs,
which there is an outside shot they can, it's Cooper Rush.
Cooper Rush wins games he does he had last year. Yeah.
Number one is the Carolina Panthers. Anything going in, I
feel bad for you. Anything coming out, I have hope
(01:03:07):
for you. Like I watched and I didn't get to
watch a lot of the Panthers game because Brycehyunk started.
They won, right, they beat the Saints. I root for Brysyunk,
same reason I root for these other Mama Jamas I've
been talking about people like, no, he sucks. Now, Brycehunk
doesn't suck. But I watched one of his interceptions and
they're like it was a funny meme, and was like,
(01:03:28):
throws another interception and it's Bryce youungk hitting a guy
right in the numbers, him fumbling it and the defensive bout.
So I was super happy for bryceh I hope he
gets out of there, and I hope he's able to
have a second life, but a very young second life.
Remember Sam Darnold's very young. He's sixteen. It feels like
(01:03:48):
he's fifty one, but he's sixteen years old. Number one
most irrelevant is the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Anybody that I left off the list you thought should
have been added to the irrelevant list. I considered the Giants,
but they're New York, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
What about the Saints, I f im surprising to put
the Saints.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Well, they're the greatest Thamember after we two, right after
we too. Yeah, they have won a Super Bowl and
they have Drew.
Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
People still hate the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Irrelevant, but I think there's a difference. Irrelevance means general disinterest.
I think some people are interested in the Saints losing
because its funny because they've been so good for so long,
or it's a story because the Saints now excuse me,
the Saints of that Patriottriot's now suck. Yeah, So I
don't think the Patriots are at all still a little relevant.
(01:04:32):
I think they're very relevant. They just aren't good.
Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Yeah, promising.
Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
The Jaguars are getting back to where they were.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
They were probably going to be number five for me.
Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Yeah, they're they're back, and it's funny when they lose.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
I think their colors are so ugly and their logo
is terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
It's the same thing with the one they start winning.
Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I'm like, is that gold that color? When they go
to England? They know what's up? Yeah, so yeah, that's it.
I think we're good, do you guys? Hope you have
a great weekend. Thank you for listening to the show.
Go follow us at Bobby Bone Sports. You put up
a bunch of clips. Good luck on the pickleball everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
And I'm telling you if you want to win, Nope,
can't say that, so I didn't say anything if you
want to win it in life focus. My next sentence
is what I feel really great about is Tennessee covering
that it good in Knoxville at Nielan when Mississippi State
comes to town. I feel really good of it about
(01:05:30):
that one. I feel like you can you have extra
smiles when it's over all right, that's all we got,
all right? Well, see you guys next time. Thanks to
Coach and thanks to you guys by Buddy Eddy Body
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