In today's episode of The Bobbycast, Bobby and Eddie talk about Taste of Country's list of the Top 10 biggest scandals in country music history. They include Kenny Chesney's 4-month marriage to Renee Zellweger, when Trace Adkins got shot through the heart by his wife and more! Bobby brings in his favorite TikTok finds including one famous actress who blew our minds with how good of a singer she is. Bobby also shares songs that are now in the public domain.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I wanted to start with some cool audio upulled from TikTok.
Mostly Kelly Clarkson at the beginning of her show sings
a cover. How exhausting must that be? Every single show
she has to pick a cover to sing. And granted,
if I could sing that well, I would sing all
the time. But every episode she sings something else. That
means the band has to learn a new Maybe that's
(00:27):
not that big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's probably nothing to her, man, because it's like you said,
she loves to sing, and yeah, every bands are easy,
like good good bands. They take a song and they're like,
just give me the kids in and we'll let it rock.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I feel like even dancing before every show, like Ellen did,
I'd be like I'm over this. Yeah, where I think, Mike,
don't you think you just kind of be over it?
Like I have to sing every show.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I think it would be harder to keep finding songs
that you could do well.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, hundreds of songs or songs you even liked, or
songs you even knew. At some point you'd be like, Okay,
I get it. Because I think her singing covers at
the beginning of the Kelly Clarkson show was something they
were doing because it was fun. It was going viral,
but now it's become such the thing, like the Ellen dancing,
that she has to do it every single show, and
(01:13):
every once in a while one goes crazy viral. But
this one I saw her doing Harvey Danger Flag Polcita.
This is an example, went completely viral. And I also
loved this song from like it was the late late
nineties I think, and here it is from her show.
I feel like that's a song. She was like, I
(02:01):
kind of remember that, Like I love that song, and
I thought it was cool she was singing it, but
they had to be in a meeting and she's like, yeah, yeah,
I said, Okay, how does it go? I'm not, oh yeah,
I kind of remember that. Okay, it's Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I saw her doing Yes, It's Mamas. And then there's
one part because the trend was lesbians everywhere go crazy
because the line is, you know, I like my girls
a little bit older, and then she winks at the
(02:34):
camera and it was like all lesbian TikTok was like fainting.
It's funny. It's really funny. But she crushed that song too.
That's a good one. I just funny, usual love. I
have another clip. This is of Lincoln Park's new singer,
which I've been very vocal about thinking. Not that she's
(02:55):
not good, I just didn't think it was the right
fit for Lincoln Park, and I don't think they should
have got it Chester replacement, someone that sounds or looks
like Chester. I like the idea of them getting a
female lead singer because it's different enough, but I feel
like her voice was just a little too aggressive and
not as melodically sounding as the old songs. Like three
(03:20):
times I talked about this. Actually, it's the only time
I ever talked about it, because I don't talk about
Lincoln Park other than this podcast. Used to like Lincoln
Park a lot, never loved, but always liked. But I
think she's getting better, Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
As soon as I saw the clip, I said, I'm
gonna bring in this clip. I'm gonna nibble on my words,
not eating them, but I'm gonna ennibble on my words,
and I'm gonna play this Lincoln Park clip with their
new lead singer and see if I feel the same way.
Go ahead. That sounds Lincoln Park ish enough.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's her?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, whoa Yeah, Emily Armstrong, Yeah, keep it up for
a Minutelet's see how far it goes. So I just
want to say that to me, feels more like Lincoln
Park without it sounding just like Chester has her own voice,
own identity, is hardcore. I love it and doesn't sound
(04:32):
like it's out of place.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Your thoughts, Mike, Yeah, they're coming here late this summer,
like I would be down to see that now.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You were never with me though on You didn't like it, though,
did you? No?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I thought she was good. I thought like some of
her screams were a little bit off, But I think
she's there now.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, maybe that's what it was like. Her screams did
not fit. And there's so much Chester screaming in those
Lincoln Park songs that go hard. But I watched that
video and I nibbled my words a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, because the great thing about Chester he would but
he would scream and key and it would sound perfect.
She didn't have that in those early clips that we heard.
I thought her voice sounded good, like I felt the
emotion in it. But I think now she's there.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I can be told, I can be sold. I'm there.
I think I'm getting there. Next up, I pulled a
couple clips, and I don't want to tell you who
this is singing Eddie, but what I'm going to say
is this is somebody you will definitely know. Okay, I
don't know if I want to give any more hints.
This is an actress, and after the first one, I'll
give you another hint. But would you play This is
(05:31):
her and her husband, her husbands playing guitar behind her.
Would you play the first song?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Mike twenty five years?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I'm LAUGHISSU trying to get up there, creeping you love
hole for a destination. I realized quick, cluhen you are
should that the world was made of this brotherhood of them,
(06:00):
whatever that means.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
And so I cruise sometimes when I'm lying a bit,
and so get it all but s in my I'm
feeling and so I was wanting at a step outside
and I take it in and I get real high,
(06:24):
and I'm straight from the top of my lums.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So that song is sang by many, and many can
do it pretty good, but you can start to hear
a little ways in that she actually can sing, especially
when it changes from that first verse. Any idea who
that is?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Gosh? I feel like I've seen this TikTok video, but
I don't remember who it was.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's gonna be tough to just nail by the voice.
What'd you think of the singing good good? Yeah, like
that's that's that's not an easy song to sing. And
she did a really really good job. Movie actress and
television actress. I would say she's on a television show now,
that's pretty popular. But we don't watch We watched her
movies for sure. Is her husband famous too, No, not
(07:14):
that No, So her husband's in music though, I think so. Yeah, yeah,
but no, no, no, no, no, okay, if I have to
even ask that question. Not super famous. But she was
a massively famous teen actress and like early twenties actress,
and she's probably in her forties now, is.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It Jennifer Love Hewett is Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
She had and she had a record deal at one
point too. She had a song that I played back
when I was a teenager on the radio. So and
that that shows good.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
She's on though, nine on one, that's what it is. Yeah,
so you watch it. I've seen it before.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
She's forty six, okay, And so she sits there and
again she had a record deal at one point, and
she had a song that was almost a hit, like
it got up to the twenties or something, if I'm guessing,
because we used to play it all the time when
I was doing pop radio. I pulled another one in
case you couldn't get it. But it's still really good.
This is her doing the bones from Maren Morris.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Here you go, Yeah, like show can try to put
love through it, but we built this right, so nothing's
ever gonna move it. When the bones are good, the
rest don't matter.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Together, pain appeal, the glass good, shadow.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Len away because she and I remain the same when
there ain't a crack in the foundation. Baby, I know
any storm we're facing blood right oh while we stay,
but the house don't fall and the bones are good.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So you can tell she could sing yeah, that's awesome.
And the camera's just set up, but she's not even
in a space. She's just sitting in the living room.
I think her song that was so big, or it
was pretty big. This is called bear Naked.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Let's remember this.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Do.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Let me see if she had another one though, because
again it wasn't a hit hit, but.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Was the was it under her name.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, she was Jeffer Lovewit. But she was
already famous as an actress too.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Fast forward.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is the one that I how.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Do I know?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, so she could sing? She had a record.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Uh that's her most stream song, No Ordinary Love. I
don't even know that I know this one. I don't
know it and I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Sit through that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So but yeah, Jennifer love you had crushed it on
TikTok singing.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
At first, I thought it may have been Sarah Michelle Geller,
but then I was like, she's married to Freddy Prince Junr.
Not crazy. They're married to each other.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
The craziest part of all of that is one, they're
still married after all those years. And two he was
a wrestling writer for a long time. Really, he went
to the w and he was a writer. He was like,
create a storyline.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
After his after his success. Yeah, like that's what he did.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He wow, ninety nine point nine percent positive he was
writing for WWE. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I've seen some documentary eclips of him talking about some
of the storylines. Yeah, where he's like sitting at a
table talking about it and they just casually bring up
like here's Fredy Frinch junior writer. I'm like, wait a minute, Yeah,
you're right, because they don't say Fredy Prince junior actor
from Scooby Doo from Let's Go to a Writer, Freddy
Prince Junior or Summer Catch or any of those movies
he was in.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But it's like, yeah, here's Jonathan Filipowski, Sean Misty, and
Freddy Prince Junior three rider from w W and you're like,
does that guy just have the same name?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Sale And they're all going to be in the their
remaking I know what you did last summer. I think
they're all coming back for it too.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Oh that's cool. That's a good one. Did they ever do?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I still know what you did?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Like ye did the sequel, but now they're rebooting. The
first one was I still know what you did last summer?
Good for a horror slash your sequel, it's pretty at
least the same thing again.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'll like the first one.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That was good. And then I pulled this cover because
I thought it was so freaking good and I know
you're gonna know who it is. But she's doing Fleetwood
Mac Go your Own Way. A lot of people cover it,
but nobody really like this. I'll let you at the
very end say who it is. Okay, you're gonna know it.
So it's not even like I.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Mean again, I've seen this video. I can't remember who.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay, then I'll just say who it is. It's a
Dolores from the Cranberries. Oh yeah, and she's in a
recording studio. She's dead, by the way now, so she's
in a recording studio and she's singing it. And by
the way, the Cranberrys. If you do not remember and
you're not a nerd of the nineties, like we are
zombie zombie, Hey, hey that one? And then do you
have to let it linger?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Do you have to?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Do?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You have to and more? But that's her. They are
Irish and very famous for the here you go ooo
take it from you can go, you can go, you can.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Go lonely day, not the lonely day.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
You can go Ya.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
You can go yr way, tell me why everything.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Turned just so distinct perfect a great voice, but also
so distinct because of the huh on theyodel whatever that is.
And I'm sure if I were betting there were many
people at the very beginning of her musical career. That
was Hey, m hmm, it's not really exactly how people
(12:42):
sing like it's a little too different, Like no one's
really gonna attach to that. That happens in music a
lot where somebody is so different, but what makes them
so different is also what makes them wildly famous. But man,
she could sing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What I really like about that is no one tried
to do that. Again, I don't think they could. No
one really try to replicate what the Cranberryes ever did,
which is really.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Cool because again it's so different, it would be so
derivative if you did. Now, maybe there's Irish music and
a lot of like traditional Irish music has some of
that what we would consider yodeling in it, and she
just brought that into like the American pop world, Like
that could be something that I could have seen happen
where they do sing like that, But she's the one
(13:24):
that decided to go and write contemporary music with it,
and then it crossed over. Can't say I've listened to
a lot of Irish folk music, though I wonder if
I typed in Irish folk music, it's all.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Like that, it's all zombie comes out.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Theory, Mike, it's pretty you think that's kind of like
people trying to sound like Morgan Wallen.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Now, well, I think that is let's just chase the
sound that's making money right at the second.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But even like his vocal style, like the way he sings,
I feel like people are trying to emulate that. Now who.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So post Malone does the Okay, So I think like
even like a Bailey Zimmerman who doesn't try to emulate
post Malone in general. But I think some of Bailey's
voice when he does that kind of drag, like I
think post has done it. So Bailey probably did a
little bit. It's like, oh I can also I think
there's a lot of things that are derivative. Do you
(14:18):
think that about Biley's ever been a time where he
has some of that post Malone?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I think he does that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Okay. Famous Irish folk songs. Oh, this is called the
Parting Glass.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
I spent.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Guys. It kind of is that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
One that song kind of as a banger, and two
like that song is kind of a banger and two
I can definitely hear now the Irish folk influence in
Dolores and how she sings. After hearing that, we can
try another one just for spits and giggles, to see
if other ones. Here's a very famous one called dandy Boy.
I don't know who's singing.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
This one life song.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
From Glen to Glen.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
To the songs.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Some one doesn't sing so much?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Do you know that song?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I've heard that song about?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, I've heard that. Wonder what you two didn't sing
like that?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Are they are Irish rock?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Ira?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yes, Irish rock?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
One more in our Irish maybe first of all, No,
(16:26):
I just stopped that and tak w I'll be honest. Yeah,
that's a good one. So I pulled that clip. I
liked all those. Let me make sure that's my nose
from TikTok. TikTok's the greatest place.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's funny, I think. Yeah, all those three videos that
they came into my algorithm as well.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Probably because they know where together.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Do Yeah, man, that's they know what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I saw there bringing back the MTV Unplugged Like the
old ones, they've tried to remake it time to change,
but they're now putting the MTV Unplugged the classic episodes
on Paramount Plus. Over fifty episodes. The live performances have
been added to Paramount plus US, some of them which
again we're derivative of mtvun Pluged, like VH one, Storyteller's
(17:07):
one of my favorites, counting Crows One, Sampty Crossway Roads.
They're still making those, but like the John Mayer Keith
Urban Wins a good one to watch, and according to
press release, many of the episodes haven't been available in
twenty plus years. MTV Unplugged includes one of my favorite
albums of all time, Like top five favorite albums of
all time is an MTV unplugged. It's the Nirvana one
(17:29):
that's up there. Nothing on those but a bucket about birds.
It's all up there. But don't be scare who needs action? Win?
You got words? And even the David Bowie song because
this is how I knew who the meat pupps were.
And David Bowie, uh, He's like, this is a Bowie song.
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Hold on, oh.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Ah, come on, I'll look it up. Then the world.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yes no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no no no no
no no. It's such a lot because it's an acoustic version.
But he killed himself right after that show, like really
soon after.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Really I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I mean not right after it. I was like, take everybody,
and then he killed himself.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
What was it like within the month or so?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
My google that for me will ye see. That was
like the last one of the last things they did.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know what else I just recently saw was that
his daughter married Tony Hawk's son. Yeah, and they have
a child together.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Their kid's granddad is Tony Hawk and Kurt Cobaine, Yeah,
colas mutual grandparents.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Ever holy and Tony Hawk posted a picture of his
old uh Nirvana ticket that he went and saw him
back in ninety one or ninety maybe that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I was less than five months after that.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That was like their last big thing they did. And
then the Conspiracy Theorist, which I don't believe any of this,
Like you can see on Kurt's face right then at
the end of the song, he knew he wanted to
end it liked No, He's just probably he's probably a
good dude who didn't love his life. Right then, I
feel like he was a real guy though that did
not love the fame of it. I think some people
(19:03):
act like they didn't like the fame of it, and
I think a lot of times in that nineties alternative era,
you had to at least act like you didn't like
the fame of it. But still he kind of liked
fame of it because the money and the ability to
play bigger shows. I feel like he kind of actually
hated it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah. I mean, but you know, like Brian Wilson too
openly said he did not like the fame in it,
didn't like the touring of it, so he didn't tour,
so he stayed at home. Yeah, but he did it music.
Did not tour because he did not like being famous.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But Kirk Cobaine did tour, Yeah, And I think that's
why made him hate it. He did toy did do
all the television shows. And there are only three people
in the band. He could not go yeah, where the
Beach Boys had five Yeah, and they all would go
and to it. Multiple guys would sing in the Beach Boys,
So I think it was easier for him to stay back. Yeah,
I he'd stay back in the studio.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'll make the music, you guys record and perform it.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Let's take a little break. Can we take a break, Mike?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Yeah, hang Ty, The Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I wanted the ten biggest scandals in country music history.
This is from Taste of Country, and so some of
them are going to be weird to talk about because
we know the people I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's part of the job, man, part of the job.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I agree. So you want to take a run out
of micro No, you saw some of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Let's go for it.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, some of the stuff pretty sensitive to different people,
but I think we should go for it for good.
Let's go number ten. Vaguely remember this Willie Nelson's IRS
bill for sixteen point seven million dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
This is interesting because what do you remember about it?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Well?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I didn't remember much, but I just watched a documentary
on Willie and they cover it very well. They basically,
Willy had a manager and this manager didn't file certain
tax forms for years. That's what it was. Yeah, and
then when Willy found out about it and the IRS
was like, hey, you owe these taxes, Willy said, well,
(21:08):
why don't we just make a deal. And so his
same manager, same manager who made the mistake said, yeah,
we got a deal. I talked to the IRS. We've
got a deal. All you got to do is buy
a golf course, by a school, by these things, and
we can write them all off and that'll go towards
our debt. And then IRS came back said that's not
how that works. After he bought all that stuff, so
(21:30):
he was in more trouble, which is where he was like,
I can't get out of this trouble. This is tough.
So then they negotiated down to a certain amount that
he did have to owe, and that's when he recorded
an album. He says that, okay, if I record a
record called the Willy IRS Tapes, and all the proceeds
will go to whatever I owe.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Nineteen ninety, the IRS hit him with that almost seventeen
million dollar tax bill, one of the largest at the
time ever imposed on an individual. They say it stem
from bad investments and shady financial advice. His accountants at
Price House had put his money into tax shelters that
were later deemed illegal, leaving him on the hook for millions,
and since he didn't have the cash, the IRS seized
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nearly everything he owned, including.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
In the guitar that everyone knows his famous guitar, which
one of his guys, I don't know who grabbed it
and asked, and he begged the IRS agent and like,
can we please just keep this guitar? He said, yeah,
keep it, so.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They didn't seize that.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
He did not seize it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
They seized his ranch, his recording studio properties, and then
Willie Nelson put out the IRS tapes. Who'll buy my memories?
That's a funny idea, who will buy my memories?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It was interesting too, because they held auctions, you know,
to help Willie, like here this is you can buy
Willie's studio, you can buy Willies whatever. And fans were
just like, whatever, to help Willy, We'll buy it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
The album consisted of stripped down recordings, was sold through
television infomercials, and proceeds didn't go to Willie obviously, went
right to the IRS. Despite losing much of his property,
Nelson's friends and fans helped him out. Many of US
sessions were bought at IRS auctions and quietly returned to him. Eventually,
he settled the debt for around six million dollars. It's
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one of the most famous tax cases in music history
and Nelson. Ever, the outlaw took it and stride and
paid his taxes.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Because he didn't, he'd have been in jail for sure. Dang,
that's crazy. Number nine, Dolly Parton was sued for three
million dollars by her former partner Porter Wagner eight years
after she left the show. That's when the lawsuit happened.
So it wasn't even right then, but they eventually reconciled
and Dolly was at the bedside when Porter passed in
(23:35):
two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
What was the lawsuit that she left his show?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Probably in the middle of a contract. You know, I
will always love you about him, Yes, but not romantic.
It's like I got I go. But I there's a
Porter Wagner suit at the Opry. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Really, I don't think I've ever seen that.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, they have it up and it's it's in a
room in one of the dressing rooms, and it's those
old school I forget what they're called.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
The kind of like the is it shiny.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, it's got all the low logos and the shiny
those are so cool. Did you ever watch any of
the old Dolly Porter black and white stuff?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah? Just little clips that I've seen. I mean, she's
she's so just charming and like just bubbly and like
the life of that show.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So if I say, can you tell me about Dolly
Parton getting sued by Porter Wagner, Let's see what chat
GBT tells me. In nineteen seventy nine, Porter Wagner suit
Dolly for three million, claiming breach of contract. That's what
I assumed it would be. Why else. The two had
been close musical partners. Dolly joined in sixty seven. They
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recorded several hits together, but as Dolly's solo career took
off in the early seventies, she wanted to leave the show,
which he did not like. He claimed that Dolly had
agreed to long term contract and was entitled to a
cut of her earnings since he had played a major
role launching her career. She felt she had paid her
dues and was ready to move on. The lawsuit dragged
on for years before they settled out of court. Dolly
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paid one million to make it go away. She later
said it for every penny to get her independence. Despite
the lawsuit, Dolly and Porter reconciled. She even helped him
financially in his later years when he struggled and she
was by his side before he passed away in two
thousand and seven. Their relationship was complicated, but it was
clear they still had a deep respect for each other.
It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I would say that was worth it.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Remember nine number eight is Garth Brooks and the sexual
assault allegations he's currently dealing with. That's very recent. Yeah,
And it's also like I would say, I know or
kind of know every single party involved in that really yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Oh wow, Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know, which makes.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It weird for me because like I'm familiar with every
single person in it.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So anything that I say about it, I feel it's
coming from a place of bias or only a semi
understanding based on what I've heard from different people, which
I think it's unfair for me to talk about. If true,
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terrible and I think i'd have to say that, Like,
there have just been some instances recently too where things
have come out and it turns out we jumped all
over people and then it turns out it wasn't exactly accurate.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You mean, like generically speaking, like we've done that.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yes, there have been times so that's a I was
shocked to see that when it came out.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Just because big time.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, but I think for me to add any thing
would be unfair. I hope it's not true. If it
is true, I hope whomever the responsible parties are are
served justice because I don't want to be Oh, we'll
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just see what happens. Like that sucks for any man
to take advantage and to do those type of things
to any woman. But that comes on the list, and
I feel like fairly that's all I can say without
being wildly biased.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That did. Like when the news came out, it was
big and we were like, wow, that's crazy and what
is happening? And then I haven't really seen anything and
I feel like everything's I don't even know an update.
Is there an update on.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, he did file in a different state, I believe,
in order to have some more of the details revealed
because he claims this is not true.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
She was.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
A makeup artist. So that's on the list. That was
a shocker, Yeah, But it's one of those things where
I feel like I know too much that if I
say anything, it's going to be opinion based or hearsay based,
and I don't want to do that here, but also
didn't want to not acknowledge that it made this list
because I think then I wouldn't be being honest. Number seven
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Miranda Lambert and Blake Shelton's shocking divorce. They were once
the hit couple of country music. For me, this story
is interesting because I remember what it happened. Everybody's like, oh,
go ahead, they're divorcing. I remember Blake was on the
show and I'd asked him something and Blake started talking
about the divorce and I was like, okay, I'll go
there with you. I didn't lead him there. I gave
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him the opportunity to go there. And there's a difference.
And then the whole story ended up getting picked up
because it was the first time he'd ever talked about it.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh wow, And.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It was in like all remember that mic, Yeah, like
all the stuff, and they're like, wow, you got Blake
to talk about this stuff, and I was like, I
really didn't like. I handed him a canvas and said,
paint what you want here, but if you'd like to
paint that, go ahead, and he did paint that, and
people were giving me credit, like, man, you know how
to get stuff out of people I didn't, but I
think Blake also felt comfortable enough to talk about it
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with me where he knows that I'm not going to
just start prying hardcore. So I'm not a clickchaser when
it comes to interviews, but I will definitely give people opportunities.
I would even compare to the Beatles interview that we did,
which wasn't a clickchasing, totally different thing. I didn't know
how much he would or wouldn't want to talk about
the Beatles with Ringo, but I definitely offered up a
few places for him to talk about it, and he did,
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which allowed me to go in even more.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
So.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I want to be respectful but also want to talk
about what people want to hear. But sometimes it takes
me a second to get them so warm talking about
what they want to talk about, which sometimes I don't
care about, to get them to talk about the stuff
people want to talk about accurate, Mikey.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
And then sometimes even if you you do get them
there and they don't say a whole lot, you don't
like prim to keep trying to get it out.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah. No, I don't kick them in the shin to
keep going, but I know they just touched on it,
and they'll probably touch on it again, So let me
talk about some other bull crap I don't care about
for a minute, and then as soon as I get
that slight crack, I'm back in it. And then they'll
usually give a little bit more, and then we'll take
it and we'll take all the good stuff and edit
it all together, because we don't ever edit anything to
make it sound like it's not, but we can move
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segments around and then it sounds like, man, they talked
a whole lot about this, and it's like, no, you know,
Mike just used his creative editorial skills to put that
near the front instead of the back.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
My favorite is when their people tell you, hey, they
don't want to talk about this, and then they're the
ones that bring it up.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Absolutely, Oh yeah, that's good. And we don't do much
when it comes to they don't want to talk about this.
We almost almost will not have an interview when someone
says we don't want to talk about this, and it's
the main thing I would say ninety seven percent of
the time, no thank you, because I think my audience
would go why and you ask about it? And I
don't want to be the guy that does it. I'd
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knowther not have them than be the guy that isn't
asking the questions people want to. Hear asked every once
in a while. Can't even think of example, but yeah,
that happened recently when they were like they want to
talk about it, and they just talked about it the
whole time. I don't remember the interview, but in like
the last month.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And if.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yes, that's exactly what it was. And so Don Felder
of the Eagles comes in and they hit us ahead
of time, not him, his people. He doesn't want to
talk about the Eagles. He has enough of a life
story outside of the Eagles that I thought this is
still going to be good. I read his book. I'm
a fan because he was brought into the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, he wasn't an original member, right.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
So I wanted to know cool it comes in. I
don't know one question and the Eagles man when we went,
I was with them, and I was like, Oh, he's
going to go there, didn't go, didn't volley it back
over the first time with the Eagles, so blah blah
blah blah. Yeah, and then when the Eagles were all together,
I was like game on I love talk about the Eagles. Yeah,
good memory. Yeah that was fun that he did that,
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And I got a real long text from him being
like that was the greatest interview. I need texting back.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
He's like, I love talking about the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
He's like, no one ever wrisked about the Eagles that
rushing or like, dude, your fullback said, don't I.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Feel like it's their people protecting them more so than them,
being like, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
But I feel like they protect them because they know
the person and for the most or it could be
this too, that interviewers sit down Don Felder and now
obviously wants to talk about some project. Everybody always has
something they're talking about or they wouldn't be on the
talking tour and they go the interview goes right to
the Eagles and only talks to Eagles.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So I do see that a lot with Sean Lennon,
you know, I've seen clips where he just roast the
reporter being like, I don't want to talk about my dad,
Like I have my own stuff going on, Like I
don't mind answering a few questions about my dad, but
I don't want to do the whole interview with my dad.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Behind the scenes bts at times of how Mike and
I will do an interview. And I don't even have
to tell Mike I'm gonna do this anymore. He knows
me at times better than I do. Let's say Johnny
Johnson comes in. Don't know who that is. Johnny Johnson's
very famous for something in the eighties and nineties. But
Johnny Johnson's got a new project that he's sot his
most personal project ever. Everybody says that about everything, and
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he wants to talk about it, and he's dying talk
about it. He says, down, man, talk about his project.
We'll go on for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I was gonna ask you, by the way, you know,
whenever you used to play with your your favorite band,
you know, the T bone Heads, and everybody loves the
T bone Heads, Like, did that influence this record? So
then I've just gone to the T bone heeads a
little bit. Yeah, and we're talking about the record, which
then they've got they've kind of you know, shot their
nut right then on talking about the new stuff. Then
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it allows me to go into the T bone Heads,
and so then we talk about and they don't feel
at all like they've been lured to talk about the
T bone Heads. And so what we will do at
the beginning is of this podcast, we do an intro
to say all the stuff that they want promoted, and
then we get to it during the interview. So it's like, yeah,
and Johnny Johnson and T Boneheads got a new record,
check it out. It's God today. All right, let's go now.
And the first thing is like, yeah, man, T bone Heads,
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we were.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Killing it back in the day. That's it.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
We've just kind of shifted it. But we definitely let
them feel the love of talking about what they want
to talk about. And it's all in the interview. But
people will not listen to everything he's saying about his
new project if they're not entertained and compelled by what
they came to hear, So they may never actually been
hear the project if we don't switch the interview around
just a little bit. Yeah, So it's for everyone's benefit.
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There were times where I early on Michael Long will
be doing.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
This podcast twenty sixteen almost oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, what number you guys that episode?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Because I like how you guys keep tracking about five
hundred once a week basically occasionally more than that, and
people have done more episodes of shows. But this has
been long because it's been one week at a time
and mostly with a person interviewing them and Mike can
I wos say, like what if we move this? Were
to move this now? Michael know when it's happening, and
they'll leave. And because it's an awkward thing too for me,
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I don't like small talk. I'm bad at it. It's
not time too good for it. I'm bad. I don't
know what to say. And so Reid, who runs the
videos in digital, our move Now. They'll come to the house.
Mike will meet them up front because he's the guy
they've been communicating with. Mike walks them back to the studio.
I'm still in my house, just standing by the door,
waiting for him to get set. They get set, Mike
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texts me all clear. I then walk fifteen seconds. They're
in their place already. I sit down, Mike. We're rolling.
We start immediately. At the end. When it's over, we
take a picture and reads like hey, I can help
you guys, get back out. Read grabs them out. They go.
We have a system, good system and then not only that,
I don't have to talk to Mike about the editing anymore. Basically,
it's this all right, I've heard that because if we
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don't edit it in a certain way. Again, we don't
edit stuff out, we don't edit stuff in. But if
we don't edit stuff in a certain way, we feel
like the artist that's promoting their project will not get
their voice heard because of how when they're talking about
it in the interview. So yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway Blake
talked about him, I got a bunch of credit. Didn't
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deserve it. Shania Twin's husband swap Now listen, that's a
crazy story. I think we were a little too young
to be in this world. So Shanaia and Mutt were married, right, Yes,
mut Lange, very famous producer. They switched Shanaya, So so
Mutt and her and her had a husband. It was him.
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Shanaya ended up getting with him and Mutt was still
with her. It was very much like the TJ and
Amy Robot that remember that when they were on I
think ABC and their husband and wives are now together.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Oh yeah, weird.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Wow, So when was this? What year was this.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Year?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You're gonna get me.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I don't know yours anyway, but it's before us. Let's
see this, I'll do Shanaia husband swap. Shania Twin's husband
swap is one of the most dramatic love twists. In
two thousand and eight, Shani discovered that her husband, then
Robert mutt Lang, was having an affair with her best
friend Marianne Thibaud. The betrayal was devastating. While dealing with
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the heartbreak, Shanaia found comfort in an unexpected place, Marianne's
ex husband now because she was with him, Frederick Diabod
same last name. The two bonded over their pain and
fell in love, and then they were married.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And they're all still together. Is mutt still with her friend?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I don't know. So in a way it was unintentional,
but mutt Lang ended up with Marie Anne. Shanaia found
love in Frederick. Let me see if they're still together.
Are they all still together? Just because of time, I
would say no, but.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I think she's still with Frederick.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Are they married?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Shania Twina is still married to Frederick and they seem
very happy. Mutt Lang and Marie, they ever reportally stayed
together since their affair was exposed in two thousand and eight. However,
they lived very private.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Everyone's still together. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
It's meant to be out of something so bizarre to
be Kenny Chesney's four month marriage to Renee's ol Wigger.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That was funny.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
She cited fraud as the reason for a moment, and
I remember when that came out, and it was like, fraud, Like,
what did he lie about according to her to steal
her stuff? It sounds like, yeah, fraud is like did
he still her identity and get into her banking more
so than like still her dress or something.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Remember them getting married, the picture on the beach, and
then almost the next day four months obviously, it was
like they're now getting divorced. Fraud was just a weird
thing to say, because you could have said, uh, amicably
split differences for any fraud.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Was it fraud like he I thought he We don't
think he was someone else, and he wasn't. We don't
know why. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I have theories that those aren't theories I'm willing to
share because I know Kenny a little bit and I'm
not willing to share those theories. And they're probably wrong,
but probably not number four. In nineteen ninety four, Trace
Atkins was shot through the heart by his then wife
after they got into an argument about drinking. He did
not press charges shot.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I will say that if Trace Atkins ever was mad
at me and came just walking towards me, I'd probably
shoot him because he's so big and scary looking.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I would run because he's slow and so big.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
He's a giant.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I was with Trace It's probably been six months, but
we were both playing the opera one night. He always
makes fun of me, it doesn't matter what's up, because
he finds something on me to make fun of. And
I think I had on like some Gucci loafers that
were shoes, and he's like, are those shoes or panties
or something like that? Right? Like that just being funny.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Then you shot him?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, yeah, And I was like, oh, man, shoes And
he was in a sling and I was like, what
happened to you? And he goes, they're roof of my house.
And I wanted to see from myself, so I got
up on the scaff Next thing you know, I'm looking
up and there's three workers over the top of me.
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And I said, what happened? And they said, you fel
am I dead? You're not. I felt like I was dead.
And I got into ambulance and we got to the
and here I and he went out and sang, that's
how you tell the story of what happened.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
To your arm?
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, he said a couple of other choice things. I'll
tell you after we get off the microphone.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Okay, you got it.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Number three. The time that the Dixie Chick called out
President George W. Bush.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I was on the radio, not country. I was doing pop.
That's crazy. They just start burning stuff. They just started.
I think people wouldn't have been as upset about it
if they would have said the same thing in America.
But what it seemed like they went to another country
to say that, and since they were there, they were like, oh,
panderin Did.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
They say that on stage?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh? Yeah, that was what it was. Yeah, I was
on stage to think. I don't remember much else about it.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I just remember the country turning on them.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, they burned their cities. They never played them. They
didn't play him.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, like it like it was one of those where
like Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
No, it's like we're not proud. I don't know, man,
that is so long ago, and I don't remember really
the context of it.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I think I found a clip. I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, play for me. What did she say there?
Speaker 3 (41:32):
We're shaming the president of the United States is from Texas.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I think if someone were to say that now, and
because we're so politically divided, I don't think people would
have cared.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I think it was related to the war.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, yes, it was the invasion, in the Iraq invasion,
I'm sure right or that time. Let me look it
up here. The controversies are on the Dixie Chicks now.
The Chicks and George W. Bush started on March ten,
two thousand and three, just days before the US invasion
of Iraq. While forming in London, lead singer Natalie Mainz
told the audience, just so you know, we're on the
good side of the all. We don't want this war,
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this violence. We're shamed of the president is from the
United States. Since they were a country band, the fan
base that largely lean conservative, this comment sparked massive backlash
in the United States, especially in the South Country. Radio
station banned their music. So hmm, if this was about
the invasion and this was about if I'm thinking of
the same war here weapons of mass destruction which never existed,
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which we then found out we were totally lied to about.
There were never weapons of mass destruction, and I need
to make sure this is the same thing. Is this
the weapons of mass destruction war?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
The Iraq War was largely justified by the government's claim
that Tadamu Sam possessed weapons of mass destruction. No stockpiles
of wnds were ever found. Tons of criticism because they
misled us with intelligence. Wow, So looking back, looking back,
were they right? And because we didn't have the information?
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But knowing then if you would have known, then we
were invading Iraq and we were invading under false pretense.
We'd being lied to by our politicians and they made
up the fact there are weapons of mass destruction there.
And someone gets on stage he goes, we don't want
this to happen. Is all lies? Would that have been
treated the same? I don't think it would have been
treated the same. Now. They never they never really bounced
back because it took forever for them to admit it,
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and then people were just already like anti ye, if
they lied to us, maybe the Dixie Chicks are actual spies.
They knew all along. They were like, we don't agree
because we know there are no weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
They were hiding messages in their songs.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, that kind of sucks for the Dixie Chick It
really does, because if they're like, we're not proud of it,
and they weren't proud of it because they felt like
it was all for an unjustifiable reason. Never really thought
about it like this. But also then you know, you know,
you just don't want to be outrarly against your country.
But in Vietnam, I think all of music was doing
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it all and you know what they were right, Yeah,
we didn't win that war. That was a war we
kind of got tricked into being into anyway, and we
didn't win that war.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, and the country didn't turn on Creeden's clear Water Revival.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
They turned on the government. A part turned on the government, Yeah,
that's true, and then a part turned on did turn
on the mute, but it wasn't as divisive because it
wasn't really a format.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
And there was kind of a movement of bands at
that point and just being like yes, we are going
to speak against this. It wasn't just one band like this, and.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
They were in the format that would turn the hardest that. Okay,
this is what it gets down to. Yeah, they were
the biggest thing in a conservative format. Had they said
the same thing at the same time and they were
a pop act or a rock act, it would not
have been the same.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Because if you look at country music during that time,
it was like Toby Keith, Red white and Blue, very patriotic, yeah,
which was obviously in a post night world. So then
you have the complete opposite here.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
I watched the clip of Toby Keith before he died
and he was like, I'm not a Republican, and I
was like, how about that. I can't believe he said that.
He was like, he said, I'm not a Democrat, and
he was doing the thing where we did. But he
was like, I'm not a Republican, which I thought it
was wild for him even to say that, because usually
you just say nothing, especially in that space. He goes,
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just because I write American songs and like, I am
patriotic and I love this country, he said, but I'm
not a Republican. I was like, huh, I thought he
ran on that ticket. I loved Toby number two. When
Morgan Wallen almost maimed two police officers with a bar chair,
I would not put this at too if we're going
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Morgan Wallen. If I'm being honest with you, this is
not This is not the biggest Morgan Wallen scandal.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
They got a slap on the wrist for this.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
The biggest Morgan Wallen scandal was him being drunk outside
of his house saying the N word and then everybody
being like, oh, and which, You're white dude, you can't
say that word. And I remember coming on the air
the next day and man, I was just I was
crushed for days. Now I'll say I was absolutely right
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because I came on the air and I said, Hey, no,
you're a white person. You cannot say that word, and
there is no way you cannot do it. But I
do not think you should be canceled. I think people
are canceling people before they have People get canceled before
they have the opportunity to learn and grow. I said,
so should he whatever go away for a while. Yeah,
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so he can understand why this isn't allowed and he
can come back and make positive of it. Should he
be canceled. No, unequivocally I said no. But should he
be able to just hang out and chill into a
show today in the studio? No, I said no, But
there's nuanced believe it or not, nuance exist. And I
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did this and the morning after and I got crushed
by both sides. I had no allies because I said
Morgan should go away for a bit and figure out
what his next move is because obviously he's drunk, and
he had, you know, he'd been known to go pretty hard,
and you can't say the N word, and do we
need to learn why? Maybe he didn't know, but he's drunk.
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And also he didn't say it. And I'm not saying
this is not any sort of justification, but he wasn't
talking about somebody that wasn't white. He was using it
in the contest of like contexts, like one of his boys,
which still can't do, but slight difference, then calling somebody
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that because of generations and generations of from slaves and
what black people have had to deal with coming all
the way to today, and then saying it because you're
stupid just saying it to one of your boys, because
your boys all say that like, there nuance. This is
not a popular word. But yeah, you cannot, for any
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reason say that word. But also, let's look at the intention.
I think we can look at intent as well. I
was like, he needs to go away. Figure it out,
figured out why you can't do this, why it's so bad,
why people are so hurt by this word. And then
I said, but we don't. Let's not cancel him whatever
that is, don't do it because I think people need
the opportunity to grow and learn and become. And I
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say all this. Conservatives crushed me because I said it
needs to go away for a bit, freaking The woke
army was like, you're not canceling him. I had no allies,
still don't. Actually that's all right though, that's okay, okay,
but that's a rough one.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
It sucks.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
There's just no nuance. You're either all one way all
this way and you can't find a medium ground that
you tried to find. It's like, nope, you gither bed
to be one or the other or we're gonna crucify you.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, and I feel like whatever. I wasn't even like
search for ground. I was just doing the human the
understanding that this is a human being that comes from somewhere.
Possibly did not understand the significance of why that is
so hurtful to so many people to say that, and
why you can't say that. But also if there's a
(49:17):
lack of understanding, it's different than if there's a full
understanding and you're still doing it. So that was a
brutal time for me. God dang.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
And that was before the chair.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh yeah, the chair. Chair is nothing. The chair is nothing.
We came on the next day of the chair were like,
what the crap just happened? Drinking number one? Oh, do
you know what it is? Have you seen the list?
Speaker 2 (49:41):
No, I've not seen the list. I think what number
one would be.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
It's somebody that's still current in music. It's somebody that's
been in the studio seven or eight times.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Seven or eight times? Could that be?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
It's somebody that I actually like, like when I see them,
we talk like. It's not even like I don't hang
out with them purposefully, like we don't pursue Hey, let's
hang out. But if we've ended up at the same
place at times in person, delightful?
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Why do I feel like Billy Ray Cyrus could be?
But like what did he do?
Speaker 1 (50:17):
I would say, this person's had number one hits in
multiple in the past couple of years. Not only that,
but the scandal happened before we came to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Oh okay, that's probably why I'm not coming straight to me.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
But you know it, I needmore.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Give me something, just a little little one more nugget.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Has something to do with the reality show.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Okay, okay, okay, Oh yeah, I got you, I got
you go, Jason ld.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
That's exactly what it is. Now. We kind of missed
whatever explosion this was because we were I was on
CHR like pop radio. But Jason Alding got caught cheating
on his high school sweetheart and the mother of his
two children with American Idol contestant Brittany Kerr.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Remember the pictures the TMZ pictures them at a LA
club making a yeah bar but bar.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, I'm like gosh. And also I was like, I
don't care.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Are you sure we weren't here already?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'm positive. Oh yeah, I'm positive. I don't know what
you hear that was. But okay, Mike, we weren't here right,
let me check. I would bet any money in my wallet,
which I don't keep much cat.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
I feel like I would have never really seen those
pictures right before US twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, we didn't come to til twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Oh wow, so right before Yeah, so those are your.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Top ten scandals.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I don't feel good about this whole segment that it
makes you feel good warming not no warm and fuzzies
playing happiness. H oh no, Let's take one more break.
Speaker 8 (51:46):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
This is the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
I do want to do a couple and I guess
we have one, two three. We got more than a
couple of songs that are public domain that now we
can play for free, which means we can play these
on the podcast. Mike.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
So public domain means they've been around for one hundred
years or so and now they're anybody's. And the problem
is you're like, wow, now there are anybody, but there
were a hundred years ago, so they're nothing current. They're
like almost unusable. The technology is bad. Singing in the rain,
Gene Kelly, this is public domain, hidy, Mikey.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Sing in the rain.
Speaker 7 (52:25):
It's a good one though, in the rain, what a
glororious feed and I'm again.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I watch a lot of old movies. I've never seen
that one.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I've never seen any old movie, and I haven't seen
that one, but I know it like I've seen like
a clip, like YouTube clips of this performance.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I've never I've never seen what's the other the music?
Sound of music? I never seen that one either.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, me, are there? I know the songs? Yeah right,
Ain't Misbehaving by Fats Waller, No One too Long with.
Speaker 6 (52:59):
Ben'm be on the Shell, Famous Spy Aven Sam and
My Love Volume.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It's from the musical Hot Chocolates. These are all free now,
so you can do whatever you want to do, all right?
An American, you'll know this? The instrumental here an American
in Paris, George Gershwin, do you know this?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
I've seen the movie.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Okay, I've seen the movie. Did you make us watch
the movie?
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Noh, I didn't make you watch this one. The one
I made you watch was Roman Holiday. I think carry
Grants in that one too, So that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, maybe I'm getting confused. And where hebern Audrey, hebern Adrew,
hebbern Is, Katherin Hebber her daughter.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
No, they're not related. Catherine was American and then Audrey
was British.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Okay, what did I do to be So Black and Blue?
By Louis Armstrong?
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Oh my love, I've been so black and blue?
Speaker 1 (53:57):
That's super cool. You just wish it was new enough
to not have the old fuzz well fuzz. It's fun
to listen to it, but you can't really use it.
I like it because it's data and it makes you
feel the date, but like, if you're gonna use like
on the show or play it in a clip or
a movie, it's.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I don't want that.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
It's our new theme song.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, uh Tiptoe through the Tulips from Nick Lucas Tiptoe
to the Window. So I know this from Tiny Tim
doing it. I think you did the sixties, So that
is not the Tiny Tim version is not public domain now,
but this is that song, but originally by Nick Lucas.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
The Tulips.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
They use this in a horror movie called Insidious, where
anytime the demon would appear, you would hear this song.
So I have a bad association with this song.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Man the old version for free.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah, well it was before so they probably had to
pay for it.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
How about that you pay for like eight days before?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Happy Days Are Here again Ben Selvin and the Crooners.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
That's how Baller saw that Barbershop Orte.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Probably Happy Days Are Here rock again. This was originally
franklind Roosevelt's presidential campaign nineteen thirty two songs.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
How do you know all these songs? I don't know,
like you know these songs?
Speaker 1 (55:21):
You know this song?
Speaker 2 (55:21):
I've never heard this one.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
No? Oh yeah, I know almost all of them.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
That's so funny. Happy Days Are Here regat.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
A notable recordings from nineteen twenty four entering the public domain.
Nobody knows the trouble. I've seen Marian Anderson and boy,
(55:54):
that's static.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
That's major static. It feels like she's.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
In the rain, like get out of the Rain, singing
the thunderstorm around here, Rap City in Blue George Gershwin
or instrumental. I know this one. It's using a bunch
of commercials.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
I feel like Mickey Mouse is dancing black and white.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
The first part is used in like like a medical commercial.
Play again from the top again.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, that's crazy?
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Or is this was there? Somebody named This guy's name
is Jelly Roll Morton.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, Jelly I have a story about him. Play this though,
Shreveport Stomp. What's your story now? I'm thinking of lead
Belly forgot.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Everybody loves my baby, but my baby don't love me
recorded about Louis Armstrong. Everybody love my baby, my baby
don't love nobody. That's cool. One. That's sound too staticky.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
They cleaned it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
That's fine. Let's do one more here. It had to
be You by Marion Harris. You know the song, right,
no way had to be How do you know this song?
How do you know this is a famous song?
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Mike, you know the song?
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (57:23):
A lot of these are used in movies. I've been
exposed to it sometimes.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Okay, what about California? Here, I come call, You're right.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Right back?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
California, California from yeah? Uh? Notable characters Popeye? Now all Popeye?
Or is there like a very very early version that's
like Mickey Mouse's early version.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
It's like the very first version of them.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
And I don't know how true this is, but I
saw TikTok where who Popeye was?
Speaker 8 (57:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (57:59):
First, I guess there's a real guy. There's a real
sailor that he was the inspiration for Popeye.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
Looks just like Popeye that's fine.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah, I mean he had the whole, like the cheek,
you know with then he had a corn A corn
pipe is.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
A hilarious spinach make him strong.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
That No, I don't think that was brute?
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Oh? Popeye? Olive Oil? And then twelve more Mickey Mouse cartoons,
including Mickey's first talking appearance in the Carnival Kid Make
You Many first entered this year. Nothing there right.
Speaker 3 (58:29):
N still waiting on like the real Legiti Mickey to
go public domain.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
We'll be dead probably. That's from CBS News. So there
you have it. Let me check if there's anything else.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
I think you love old music. You might like old movies.
I do not. Then you just don't know.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
It like old movies. I do want to talk about
maybe the next episode or two. Here's the challenge I
want to give you. Who doesn't get credit in music
for being freaking awesome but they're low key like amazing.
I have somebody I don't want to waste it right.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
Here, okay, and you whoever you have, Everyone knows this person,
they're just not known for what they do.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
I won't say everyone. I don't want to give you
too much of a look into what I have. I
don't think this person gets near the respect that they deserve.
Transcendent in a way, but not in the same part.
But yes, famous, okay, but I think people don't. I
(59:34):
would compare it to Prince is a guitar player.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
Prince one of the greatest guitar players ever. I'm talking about.
You can list five or six, you can go buddy guy,
I could go down the list. Prince is there. But
because he had massive songs, was purple, was all the
things that Prince was as an artist. You really didn't
pay attention to the guitar playing unless you knew guitar.
(01:00:00):
But he was one of the greatest guitar players ever.
So it would be something similar to that. So think
about that the next time.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
We do this.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I have somebody now I'd love to, but right out
of time to do that. Okay, cool, Mike, you're good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
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Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
This has been a Bobby Cast production.
I wanted to start with some cool audio upulled from TikTok.
Mostly Kelly Clarkson at the beginning of her show sings
a cover. How exhausting must that be? Every single show
she has to pick a cover to sing. And granted,
if I could sing that well, I would sing all
the time. But every episode she sings something else. That
means the band has to learn a new Maybe that's
(00:27):
not that big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's probably nothing to her, man, because it's like you said,
she loves to sing, and yeah, every bands are easy,
like good good bands. They take a song and they're like,
just give me the kids in and we'll let it rock.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I feel like even dancing before every show, like Ellen did,
I'd be like I'm over this. Yeah, where I think, Mike,
don't you think you just kind of be over it?
Like I have to sing every show.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I think it would be harder to keep finding songs
that you could do well.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, hundreds of songs or songs you even liked, or
songs you even knew. At some point you'd be like, Okay,
I get it. Because I think her singing covers at
the beginning of the Kelly Clarkson show was something they
were doing because it was fun. It was going viral,
but now it's become such the thing, like the Ellen dancing,
that she has to do it every single show, and
(01:13):
every once in a while one goes crazy viral. But
this one I saw her doing Harvey Danger Flag Polcita.
This is an example, went completely viral. And I also
loved this song from like it was the late late
nineties I think, and here it is from her show.
I feel like that's a song. She was like, I
(02:01):
kind of remember that, Like I love that song, and
I thought it was cool she was singing it, but
they had to be in a meeting and she's like, yeah, yeah,
I said, Okay, how does it go? I'm not, oh yeah,
I kind of remember that. Okay, it's Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I saw her doing Yes, It's Mamas. And then there's
one part because the trend was lesbians everywhere go crazy
because the line is, you know, I like my girls
a little bit older, and then she winks at the
(02:34):
camera and it was like all lesbian TikTok was like fainting.
It's funny. It's really funny. But she crushed that song too.
That's a good one. I just funny, usual love. I
have another clip. This is of Lincoln Park's new singer,
which I've been very vocal about thinking. Not that she's
(02:55):
not good, I just didn't think it was the right
fit for Lincoln Park, and I don't think they should
have got it Chester replacement, someone that sounds or looks
like Chester. I like the idea of them getting a
female lead singer because it's different enough, but I feel
like her voice was just a little too aggressive and
not as melodically sounding as the old songs. Like three
(03:20):
times I talked about this. Actually, it's the only time
I ever talked about it, because I don't talk about
Lincoln Park other than this podcast. Used to like Lincoln
Park a lot, never loved, but always liked. But I
think she's getting better, Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
As soon as I saw the clip, I said, I'm
gonna bring in this clip. I'm gonna nibble on my words,
not eating them, but I'm gonna ennibble on my words,
and I'm gonna play this Lincoln Park clip with their
new lead singer and see if I feel the same way.
Go ahead. That sounds Lincoln Park ish enough.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's her?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, whoa Yeah, Emily Armstrong, Yeah, keep it up for
a Minutelet's see how far it goes. So I just
want to say that to me, feels more like Lincoln
Park without it sounding just like Chester has her own voice,
own identity, is hardcore. I love it and doesn't sound
(04:32):
like it's out of place.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Your thoughts, Mike, Yeah, they're coming here late this summer,
like I would be down to see that now.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You were never with me though on You didn't like it, though,
did you? No?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I thought she was good. I thought like some of
her screams were a little bit off, But I think
she's there now.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, maybe that's what it was like. Her screams did
not fit. And there's so much Chester screaming in those
Lincoln Park songs that go hard. But I watched that
video and I nibbled my words a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, because the great thing about Chester he would but
he would scream and key and it would sound perfect.
She didn't have that in those early clips that we heard.
I thought her voice sounded good, like I felt the
emotion in it. But I think now she's there.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I can be told, I can be sold. I'm there.
I think I'm getting there. Next up, I pulled a
couple clips, and I don't want to tell you who
this is singing Eddie, but what I'm going to say
is this is somebody you will definitely know. Okay, I
don't know if I want to give any more hints.
This is an actress, and after the first one, I'll
give you another hint. But would you play This is
(05:31):
her and her husband, her husbands playing guitar behind her.
Would you play the first song?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Mike twenty five years?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I'm LAUGHISSU trying to get up there, creeping you love
hole for a destination. I realized quick, cluhen you are
should that the world was made of this brotherhood of them,
(06:00):
whatever that means.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
And so I cruise sometimes when I'm lying a bit,
and so get it all but s in my I'm
feeling and so I was wanting at a step outside
and I take it in and I get real high,
(06:24):
and I'm straight from the top of my lums.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So that song is sang by many, and many can
do it pretty good, but you can start to hear
a little ways in that she actually can sing, especially
when it changes from that first verse. Any idea who
that is?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Gosh? I feel like I've seen this TikTok video, but
I don't remember who it was.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's gonna be tough to just nail by the voice.
What'd you think of the singing good good? Yeah, like
that's that's that's not an easy song to sing. And
she did a really really good job. Movie actress and
television actress. I would say she's on a television show now,
that's pretty popular. But we don't watch We watched her
movies for sure. Is her husband famous too, No, not
(07:14):
that No, So her husband's in music though, I think so. Yeah, yeah,
but no, no, no, no, no, okay, if I have to
even ask that question. Not super famous. But she was
a massively famous teen actress and like early twenties actress,
and she's probably in her forties now, is.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It Jennifer Love Hewett is Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
She had and she had a record deal at one
point too. She had a song that I played back
when I was a teenager on the radio. So and
that that shows good.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
She's on though, nine on one, that's what it is. Yeah,
so you watch it. I've seen it before.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
She's forty six, okay, And so she sits there and
again she had a record deal at one point, and
she had a song that was almost a hit, like
it got up to the twenties or something, if I'm guessing,
because we used to play it all the time when
I was doing pop radio. I pulled another one in
case you couldn't get it. But it's still really good.
This is her doing the bones from Maren Morris.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Here you go, Yeah, like show can try to put
love through it, but we built this right, so nothing's
ever gonna move it. When the bones are good, the
rest don't matter.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Together, pain appeal, the glass good, shadow.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Len away because she and I remain the same when
there ain't a crack in the foundation. Baby, I know
any storm we're facing blood right oh while we stay,
but the house don't fall and the bones are good.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So you can tell she could sing yeah, that's awesome.
And the camera's just set up, but she's not even
in a space. She's just sitting in the living room.
I think her song that was so big, or it
was pretty big. This is called bear Naked.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Let's remember this.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Do.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Let me see if she had another one though, because
again it wasn't a hit hit, but.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Was the was it under her name.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, she was Jeffer Lovewit. But she was
already famous as an actress too.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Fast forward.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is the one that I how.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Do I know?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, so she could sing? She had a record.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Uh that's her most stream song, No Ordinary Love. I
don't even know that I know this one. I don't
know it and I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Sit through that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So but yeah, Jennifer love you had crushed it on
TikTok singing.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
At first, I thought it may have been Sarah Michelle Geller,
but then I was like, she's married to Freddy Prince Junr.
Not crazy. They're married to each other.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
The craziest part of all of that is one, they're
still married after all those years. And two he was
a wrestling writer for a long time. Really, he went
to the w and he was a writer. He was like,
create a storyline.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
After his after his success. Yeah, like that's what he did.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He wow, ninety nine point nine percent positive he was
writing for WWE. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I've seen some documentary eclips of him talking about some
of the storylines. Yeah, where he's like sitting at a
table talking about it and they just casually bring up
like here's Fredy Frinch junior writer. I'm like, wait a minute, Yeah,
you're right, because they don't say Fredy Prince junior actor
from Scooby Doo from Let's Go to a Writer, Freddy
Prince Junior or Summer Catch or any of those movies
he was in.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But it's like, yeah, here's Jonathan Filipowski, Sean Misty, and
Freddy Prince Junior three rider from w W and you're like,
does that guy just have the same name?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Sale And they're all going to be in the their
remaking I know what you did last summer. I think
they're all coming back for it too.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Oh that's cool. That's a good one. Did they ever do?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I still know what you did?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Like ye did the sequel, but now they're rebooting. The
first one was I still know what you did last summer?
Good for a horror slash your sequel, it's pretty at
least the same thing again.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'll like the first one.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That was good. And then I pulled this cover because
I thought it was so freaking good and I know
you're gonna know who it is. But she's doing Fleetwood
Mac Go your Own Way. A lot of people cover it,
but nobody really like this. I'll let you at the
very end say who it is. Okay, you're gonna know it.
So it's not even like I.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Mean again, I've seen this video. I can't remember who.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay, then I'll just say who it is. It's a
Dolores from the Cranberries. Oh yeah, and she's in a
recording studio. She's dead, by the way now, so she's
in a recording studio and she's singing it. And by
the way, the Cranberrys. If you do not remember and
you're not a nerd of the nineties, like we are
zombie zombie, Hey, hey that one? And then do you
have to let it linger?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Do you have to?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Do?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You have to and more? But that's her. They are
Irish and very famous for the here you go ooo
take it from you can go, you can go, you can.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Go lonely day, not the lonely day.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
You can go Ya.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
You can go yr way, tell me why everything.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Turned just so distinct perfect a great voice, but also
so distinct because of the huh on theyodel whatever that is.
And I'm sure if I were betting there were many
people at the very beginning of her musical career. That
was Hey, m hmm, it's not really exactly how people
(12:42):
sing like it's a little too different, Like no one's
really gonna attach to that. That happens in music a
lot where somebody is so different, but what makes them
so different is also what makes them wildly famous. But man,
she could sing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What I really like about that is no one tried
to do that. Again, I don't think they could. No
one really try to replicate what the Cranberryes ever did,
which is really.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Cool because again it's so different, it would be so
derivative if you did. Now, maybe there's Irish music and
a lot of like traditional Irish music has some of
that what we would consider yodeling in it, and she
just brought that into like the American pop world, Like
that could be something that I could have seen happen
where they do sing like that, But she's the one
(13:24):
that decided to go and write contemporary music with it,
and then it crossed over. Can't say I've listened to
a lot of Irish folk music, though I wonder if
I typed in Irish folk music, it's all.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Like that, it's all zombie comes out.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Theory, Mike, it's pretty you think that's kind of like
people trying to sound like Morgan Wallen.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Now, well, I think that is let's just chase the
sound that's making money right at the second.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But even like his vocal style, like the way he sings,
I feel like people are trying to emulate that. Now who.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So post Malone does the Okay, So I think like
even like a Bailey Zimmerman who doesn't try to emulate
post Malone in general. But I think some of Bailey's
voice when he does that kind of drag, like I
think post has done it. So Bailey probably did a
little bit. It's like, oh I can also I think
there's a lot of things that are derivative. Do you
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think that about Biley's ever been a time where he
has some of that post Malone?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I think he does that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Okay. Famous Irish folk songs. Oh, this is called the
Parting Glass.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
I spent.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Guys. It kind of is that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
One that song kind of as a banger, and two
like that song is kind of a banger and two
I can definitely hear now the Irish folk influence in
Dolores and how she sings. After hearing that, we can
try another one just for spits and giggles, to see
if other ones. Here's a very famous one called dandy Boy.
I don't know who's singing.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
This one life song.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
From Glen to Glen.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
To the songs.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Some one doesn't sing so much?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Do you know that song?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I've heard that song about?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, I've heard that. Wonder what you two didn't sing
like that?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Are they are Irish rock?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Ira?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yes, Irish rock?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
One more in our Irish maybe first of all, No,
(16:26):
I just stopped that and tak w I'll be honest. Yeah,
that's a good one. So I pulled that clip. I
liked all those. Let me make sure that's my nose
from TikTok. TikTok's the greatest place.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's funny, I think. Yeah, all those three videos that
they came into my algorithm as well.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Probably because they know where together.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Do Yeah, man, that's they know what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I saw there bringing back the MTV Unplugged Like the
old ones, they've tried to remake it time to change,
but they're now putting the MTV Unplugged the classic episodes
on Paramount Plus. Over fifty episodes. The live performances have
been added to Paramount plus US, some of them which
again we're derivative of mtvun Pluged, like VH one, Storyteller's
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one of my favorites, counting Crows One, Sampty Crossway Roads.
They're still making those, but like the John Mayer Keith
Urban Wins a good one to watch, and according to
press release, many of the episodes haven't been available in
twenty plus years. MTV Unplugged includes one of my favorite
albums of all time, Like top five favorite albums of
all time is an MTV unplugged. It's the Nirvana one
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that's up there. Nothing on those but a bucket about birds.
It's all up there. But don't be scare who needs action? Win?
You got words? And even the David Bowie song because
this is how I knew who the meat pupps were.
And David Bowie, uh, He's like, this is a Bowie song.
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Hold on, oh.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Ah, come on, I'll look it up. Then the world.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yes no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no no no no
no no. It's such a lot because it's an acoustic version.
But he killed himself right after that show, like really
soon after.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Really I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I mean not right after it. I was like, take everybody,
and then he killed himself.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
What was it like within the month or so?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
My google that for me will ye see. That was
like the last one of the last things they did.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know what else I just recently saw was that
his daughter married Tony Hawk's son. Yeah, and they have
a child together.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Their kid's granddad is Tony Hawk and Kurt Cobaine, Yeah,
colas mutual grandparents.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Ever holy and Tony Hawk posted a picture of his
old uh Nirvana ticket that he went and saw him
back in ninety one or ninety maybe that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I was less than five months after that.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That was like their last big thing they did. And
then the Conspiracy Theorist, which I don't believe any of this,
Like you can see on Kurt's face right then at
the end of the song, he knew he wanted to
end it liked No, He's just probably he's probably a
good dude who didn't love his life. Right then, I
feel like he was a real guy though that did
not love the fame of it. I think some people
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act like they didn't like the fame of it, and
I think a lot of times in that nineties alternative era,
you had to at least act like you didn't like
the fame of it. But still he kind of liked
fame of it because the money and the ability to
play bigger shows. I feel like he kind of actually
hated it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah. I mean, but you know, like Brian Wilson too
openly said he did not like the fame in it,
didn't like the touring of it, so he didn't tour,
so he stayed at home. Yeah, but he did it music.
Did not tour because he did not like being famous.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But Kirk Cobaine did tour, Yeah, And I think that's
why made him hate it. He did toy did do
all the television shows. And there are only three people
in the band. He could not go yeah, where the
Beach Boys had five Yeah, and they all would go
and to it. Multiple guys would sing in the Beach Boys,
So I think it was easier for him to stay back. Yeah,
I he'd stay back in the studio.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'll make the music, you guys record and perform it.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Let's take a little break. Can we take a break, Mike?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Yeah, hang Ty, The Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I wanted the ten biggest scandals in country music history.
This is from Taste of Country, and so some of
them are going to be weird to talk about because
we know the people I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's part of the job, man, part of the job.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I agree. So you want to take a run out
of micro No, you saw some of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Let's go for it.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, some of the stuff pretty sensitive to different people,
but I think we should go for it for good.
Let's go number ten. Vaguely remember this Willie Nelson's IRS
bill for sixteen point seven million dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
This is interesting because what do you remember about it?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Well?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I didn't remember much, but I just watched a documentary
on Willie and they cover it very well. They basically,
Willy had a manager and this manager didn't file certain
tax forms for years. That's what it was. Yeah, and
then when Willy found out about it and the IRS
was like, hey, you owe these taxes, Willy said, well,
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why don't we just make a deal. And so his
same manager, same manager who made the mistake said, yeah,
we got a deal. I talked to the IRS. We've
got a deal. All you got to do is buy
a golf course, by a school, by these things, and
we can write them all off and that'll go towards
our debt. And then IRS came back said that's not
how that works. After he bought all that stuff, so
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he was in more trouble, which is where he was like,
I can't get out of this trouble. This is tough.
So then they negotiated down to a certain amount that
he did have to owe, and that's when he recorded
an album. He says that, okay, if I record a
record called the Willy IRS Tapes, and all the proceeds
will go to whatever I owe.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Nineteen ninety, the IRS hit him with that almost seventeen
million dollar tax bill, one of the largest at the
time ever imposed on an individual. They say it stem
from bad investments and shady financial advice. His accountants at
Price House had put his money into tax shelters that
were later deemed illegal, leaving him on the hook for millions,
and since he didn't have the cash, the IRS seized
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nearly everything he owned, including.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
In the guitar that everyone knows his famous guitar, which
one of his guys, I don't know who grabbed it
and asked, and he begged the IRS agent and like,
can we please just keep this guitar? He said, yeah,
keep it, so.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They didn't seize that.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
He did not seize it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
They seized his ranch, his recording studio properties, and then
Willie Nelson put out the IRS tapes. Who'll buy my memories?
That's a funny idea, who will buy my memories?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It was interesting too, because they held auctions, you know,
to help Willie, like here this is you can buy
Willie's studio, you can buy Willies whatever. And fans were
just like, whatever, to help Willy, We'll buy it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
The album consisted of stripped down recordings, was sold through
television infomercials, and proceeds didn't go to Willie obviously, went
right to the IRS. Despite losing much of his property,
Nelson's friends and fans helped him out. Many of US
sessions were bought at IRS auctions and quietly returned to him. Eventually,
he settled the debt for around six million dollars. It's
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one of the most famous tax cases in music history
and Nelson. Ever, the outlaw took it and stride and
paid his taxes.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Because he didn't, he'd have been in jail for sure. Dang,
that's crazy. Number nine, Dolly Parton was sued for three
million dollars by her former partner Porter Wagner eight years
after she left the show. That's when the lawsuit happened.
So it wasn't even right then, but they eventually reconciled
and Dolly was at the bedside when Porter passed in
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two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
What was the lawsuit that she left his show?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Probably in the middle of a contract. You know, I
will always love you about him, Yes, but not romantic.
It's like I got I go. But I there's a
Porter Wagner suit at the Opry. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Really, I don't think I've ever seen that.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, they have it up and it's it's in a
room in one of the dressing rooms, and it's those
old school I forget what they're called.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
The kind of like the is it shiny.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, it's got all the low logos and the shiny
those are so cool. Did you ever watch any of
the old Dolly Porter black and white stuff?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah? Just little clips that I've seen. I mean, she's
she's so just charming and like just bubbly and like
the life of that show.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So if I say, can you tell me about Dolly
Parton getting sued by Porter Wagner, Let's see what chat
GBT tells me. In nineteen seventy nine, Porter Wagner suit
Dolly for three million, claiming breach of contract. That's what
I assumed it would be. Why else. The two had
been close musical partners. Dolly joined in sixty seven. They
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recorded several hits together, but as Dolly's solo career took
off in the early seventies, she wanted to leave the show,
which he did not like. He claimed that Dolly had
agreed to long term contract and was entitled to a
cut of her earnings since he had played a major
role launching her career. She felt she had paid her
dues and was ready to move on. The lawsuit dragged
on for years before they settled out of court. Dolly
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paid one million to make it go away. She later
said it for every penny to get her independence. Despite
the lawsuit, Dolly and Porter reconciled. She even helped him
financially in his later years when he struggled and she
was by his side before he passed away in two
thousand and seven. Their relationship was complicated, but it was
clear they still had a deep respect for each other.
It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I would say that was worth it.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Remember nine number eight is Garth Brooks and the sexual
assault allegations he's currently dealing with. That's very recent. Yeah,
And it's also like I would say, I know or
kind of know every single party involved in that really yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Oh wow, Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know, which makes.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It weird for me because like I'm familiar with every
single person in it.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So anything that I say about it, I feel it's
coming from a place of bias or only a semi
understanding based on what I've heard from different people, which
I think it's unfair for me to talk about. If true,
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terrible and I think i'd have to say that, Like,
there have just been some instances recently too where things
have come out and it turns out we jumped all
over people and then it turns out it wasn't exactly accurate.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You mean, like generically speaking, like we've done that.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yes, there have been times so that's a I was
shocked to see that when it came out.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Just because big time.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, but I think for me to add any thing
would be unfair. I hope it's not true. If it
is true, I hope whomever the responsible parties are are
served justice because I don't want to be Oh, we'll
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just see what happens. Like that sucks for any man
to take advantage and to do those type of things
to any woman. But that comes on the list, and
I feel like fairly that's all I can say without
being wildly biased.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That did. Like when the news came out, it was
big and we were like, wow, that's crazy and what
is happening? And then I haven't really seen anything and
I feel like everything's I don't even know an update.
Is there an update on.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, he did file in a different state, I believe,
in order to have some more of the details revealed
because he claims this is not true.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
She was.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
A makeup artist. So that's on the list. That was
a shocker, Yeah, But it's one of those things where
I feel like I know too much that if I
say anything, it's going to be opinion based or hearsay based,
and I don't want to do that here, but also
didn't want to not acknowledge that it made this list
because I think then I wouldn't be being honest. Number seven
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Miranda Lambert and Blake Shelton's shocking divorce. They were once
the hit couple of country music. For me, this story
is interesting because I remember what it happened. Everybody's like, oh,
go ahead, they're divorcing. I remember Blake was on the
show and I'd asked him something and Blake started talking
about the divorce and I was like, okay, I'll go
there with you. I didn't lead him there. I gave
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him the opportunity to go there. And there's a difference.
And then the whole story ended up getting picked up
because it was the first time he'd ever talked about it.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh wow, And.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It was in like all remember that mic, Yeah, like
all the stuff, and they're like, wow, you got Blake
to talk about this stuff, and I was like, I
really didn't like. I handed him a canvas and said,
paint what you want here, but if you'd like to
paint that, go ahead, and he did paint that, and
people were giving me credit, like, man, you know how
to get stuff out of people I didn't, but I
think Blake also felt comfortable enough to talk about it
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with me where he knows that I'm not going to
just start prying hardcore. So I'm not a clickchaser when
it comes to interviews, but I will definitely give people opportunities.
I would even compare to the Beatles interview that we did,
which wasn't a clickchasing, totally different thing. I didn't know
how much he would or wouldn't want to talk about
the Beatles with Ringo, but I definitely offered up a
few places for him to talk about it, and he did,
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which allowed me to go in even more.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
So.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I want to be respectful but also want to talk
about what people want to hear. But sometimes it takes
me a second to get them so warm talking about
what they want to talk about, which sometimes I don't
care about, to get them to talk about the stuff
people want to talk about accurate, Mikey.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
And then sometimes even if you you do get them
there and they don't say a whole lot, you don't
like prim to keep trying to get it out.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah. No, I don't kick them in the shin to
keep going, but I know they just touched on it,
and they'll probably touch on it again, So let me
talk about some other bull crap I don't care about
for a minute, and then as soon as I get
that slight crack, I'm back in it. And then they'll
usually give a little bit more, and then we'll take
it and we'll take all the good stuff and edit
it all together, because we don't ever edit anything to
make it sound like it's not, but we can move
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segments around and then it sounds like, man, they talked
a whole lot about this, and it's like, no, you know,
Mike just used his creative editorial skills to put that
near the front instead of the back.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
My favorite is when their people tell you, hey, they
don't want to talk about this, and then they're the
ones that bring it up.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Absolutely, Oh yeah, that's good. And we don't do much
when it comes to they don't want to talk about this.
We almost almost will not have an interview when someone
says we don't want to talk about this, and it's
the main thing I would say ninety seven percent of
the time, no thank you, because I think my audience
would go why and you ask about it? And I
don't want to be the guy that does it. I'd
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knowther not have them than be the guy that isn't
asking the questions people want to. Hear asked every once
in a while. Can't even think of example, but yeah,
that happened recently when they were like they want to
talk about it, and they just talked about it the
whole time. I don't remember the interview, but in like
the last month.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And if.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yes, that's exactly what it was. And so Don Felder
of the Eagles comes in and they hit us ahead
of time, not him, his people. He doesn't want to
talk about the Eagles. He has enough of a life
story outside of the Eagles that I thought this is
still going to be good. I read his book. I'm
a fan because he was brought into the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, he wasn't an original member, right.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
So I wanted to know cool it comes in. I
don't know one question and the Eagles man when we went,
I was with them, and I was like, Oh, he's
going to go there, didn't go, didn't volley it back
over the first time with the Eagles, so blah blah
blah blah. Yeah, and then when the Eagles were all together,
I was like game on I love talk about the Eagles. Yeah,
good memory. Yeah that was fun that he did that,
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And I got a real long text from him being
like that was the greatest interview. I need texting back.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
He's like, I love talking about the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
He's like, no one ever wrisked about the Eagles that
rushing or like, dude, your fullback said, don't I.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Feel like it's their people protecting them more so than them,
being like, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
But I feel like they protect them because they know
the person and for the most or it could be
this too, that interviewers sit down Don Felder and now
obviously wants to talk about some project. Everybody always has
something they're talking about or they wouldn't be on the
talking tour and they go the interview goes right to
the Eagles and only talks to Eagles.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So I do see that a lot with Sean Lennon,
you know, I've seen clips where he just roast the
reporter being like, I don't want to talk about my dad,
Like I have my own stuff going on, Like I
don't mind answering a few questions about my dad, but
I don't want to do the whole interview with my dad.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Behind the scenes bts at times of how Mike and
I will do an interview. And I don't even have
to tell Mike I'm gonna do this anymore. He knows
me at times better than I do. Let's say Johnny
Johnson comes in. Don't know who that is. Johnny Johnson's
very famous for something in the eighties and nineties. But
Johnny Johnson's got a new project that he's sot his
most personal project ever. Everybody says that about everything, and
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he wants to talk about it, and he's dying talk
about it. He says, down, man, talk about his project.
We'll go on for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I was gonna ask you, by the way, you know,
whenever you used to play with your your favorite band,
you know, the T bone Heads, and everybody loves the
T bone Heads, Like, did that influence this record? So
then I've just gone to the T bone heeads a
little bit. Yeah, and we're talking about the record, which
then they've got they've kind of you know, shot their
nut right then on talking about the new stuff. Then
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it allows me to go into the T bone Heads,
and so then we talk about and they don't feel
at all like they've been lured to talk about the
T bone Heads. And so what we will do at
the beginning is of this podcast, we do an intro
to say all the stuff that they want promoted, and
then we get to it during the interview. So it's like, yeah,
and Johnny Johnson and T Boneheads got a new record,
check it out. It's God today. All right, let's go now.
And the first thing is like, yeah, man, T bone Heads,
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we were.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Killing it back in the day. That's it.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
We've just kind of shifted it. But we definitely let
them feel the love of talking about what they want
to talk about. And it's all in the interview. But
people will not listen to everything he's saying about his
new project if they're not entertained and compelled by what
they came to hear, So they may never actually been
hear the project if we don't switch the interview around
just a little bit. Yeah, So it's for everyone's benefit.
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There were times where I early on Michael Long will
be doing.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
This podcast twenty sixteen almost oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, what number you guys that episode?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Because I like how you guys keep tracking about five
hundred once a week basically occasionally more than that, and
people have done more episodes of shows. But this has
been long because it's been one week at a time
and mostly with a person interviewing them and Mike can
I wos say, like what if we move this? Were
to move this now? Michael know when it's happening, and
they'll leave. And because it's an awkward thing too for me,
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I don't like small talk. I'm bad at it. It's
not time too good for it. I'm bad. I don't
know what to say. And so Reid, who runs the
videos in digital, our move Now. They'll come to the house.
Mike will meet them up front because he's the guy
they've been communicating with. Mike walks them back to the studio.
I'm still in my house, just standing by the door,
waiting for him to get set. They get set, Mike
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texts me all clear. I then walk fifteen seconds. They're
in their place already. I sit down, Mike. We're rolling.
We start immediately. At the end. When it's over, we
take a picture and reads like hey, I can help
you guys, get back out. Read grabs them out. They go.
We have a system, good system and then not only that,
I don't have to talk to Mike about the editing anymore. Basically,
it's this all right, I've heard that because if we
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don't edit it in a certain way. Again, we don't
edit stuff out, we don't edit stuff in. But if
we don't edit stuff in a certain way, we feel
like the artist that's promoting their project will not get
their voice heard because of how when they're talking about
it in the interview. So yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway Blake
talked about him, I got a bunch of credit. Didn't
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deserve it. Shania Twin's husband swap Now listen, that's a
crazy story. I think we were a little too young
to be in this world. So Shanaia and Mutt were married, right, Yes,
mut Lange, very famous producer. They switched Shanaya, So so
Mutt and her and her had a husband. It was him.
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Shanaya ended up getting with him and Mutt was still
with her. It was very much like the TJ and
Amy Robot that remember that when they were on I
think ABC and their husband and wives are now together.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Oh yeah, weird.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Wow, So when was this? What year was this.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Year?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You're gonna get me.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I don't know yours anyway, but it's before us. Let's
see this, I'll do Shanaia husband swap. Shania Twin's husband
swap is one of the most dramatic love twists. In
two thousand and eight, Shani discovered that her husband, then
Robert mutt Lang, was having an affair with her best
friend Marianne Thibaud. The betrayal was devastating. While dealing with
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the heartbreak, Shanaia found comfort in an unexpected place, Marianne's
ex husband now because she was with him, Frederick Diabod
same last name. The two bonded over their pain and
fell in love, and then they were married.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And they're all still together. Is mutt still with her friend?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I don't know. So in a way it was unintentional,
but mutt Lang ended up with Marie Anne. Shanaia found
love in Frederick. Let me see if they're still together.
Are they all still together? Just because of time, I
would say no, but.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I think she's still with Frederick.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Are they married?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Shania Twina is still married to Frederick and they seem
very happy. Mutt Lang and Marie, they ever reportally stayed
together since their affair was exposed in two thousand and eight. However,
they lived very private.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Everyone's still together. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
It's meant to be out of something so bizarre to
be Kenny Chesney's four month marriage to Renee's ol Wigger.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That was funny.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
She cited fraud as the reason for a moment, and
I remember when that came out, and it was like, fraud, Like,
what did he lie about according to her to steal
her stuff? It sounds like, yeah, fraud is like did
he still her identity and get into her banking more
so than like still her dress or something.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Remember them getting married, the picture on the beach, and
then almost the next day four months obviously, it was
like they're now getting divorced. Fraud was just a weird
thing to say, because you could have said, uh, amicably
split differences for any fraud.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Was it fraud like he I thought he We don't
think he was someone else, and he wasn't. We don't
know why. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I have theories that those aren't theories I'm willing to
share because I know Kenny a little bit and I'm
not willing to share those theories. And they're probably wrong,
but probably not number four. In nineteen ninety four, Trace
Atkins was shot through the heart by his then wife
after they got into an argument about drinking. He did
not press charges shot.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I will say that if Trace Atkins ever was mad
at me and came just walking towards me, I'd probably
shoot him because he's so big and scary looking.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I would run because he's slow and so big.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
He's a giant.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I was with Trace It's probably been six months, but
we were both playing the opera one night. He always
makes fun of me, it doesn't matter what's up, because
he finds something on me to make fun of. And
I think I had on like some Gucci loafers that
were shoes, and he's like, are those shoes or panties
or something like that? Right? Like that just being funny.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Then you shot him?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, yeah, And I was like, oh, man, shoes And
he was in a sling and I was like, what
happened to you? And he goes, they're roof of my house.
And I wanted to see from myself, so I got
up on the scaff Next thing you know, I'm looking
up and there's three workers over the top of me.
(40:07):
And I said, what happened? And they said, you fel
am I dead? You're not. I felt like I was dead.
And I got into ambulance and we got to the
and here I and he went out and sang, that's
how you tell the story of what happened.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
To your arm?
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, he said a couple of other choice things. I'll
tell you after we get off the microphone.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Okay, you got it.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Number three. The time that the Dixie Chick called out
President George W. Bush.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I was on the radio, not country. I was doing pop.
That's crazy. They just start burning stuff. They just started.
I think people wouldn't have been as upset about it
if they would have said the same thing in America.
But what it seemed like they went to another country
to say that, and since they were there, they were like, oh,
panderin Did.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
They say that on stage?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh? Yeah, that was what it was. Yeah, I was
on stage to think. I don't remember much else about it.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I just remember the country turning on them.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, they burned their cities. They never played them. They
didn't play him.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, like it like it was one of those where
like Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
No, it's like we're not proud. I don't know, man,
that is so long ago, and I don't remember really
the context of it.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I think I found a clip. I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, play for me. What did she say there?
Speaker 3 (41:32):
We're shaming the president of the United States is from Texas.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I think if someone were to say that now, and
because we're so politically divided, I don't think people would
have cared.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I think it was related to the war.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, yes, it was the invasion, in the Iraq invasion,
I'm sure right or that time. Let me look it
up here. The controversies are on the Dixie Chicks now.
The Chicks and George W. Bush started on March ten,
two thousand and three, just days before the US invasion
of Iraq. While forming in London, lead singer Natalie Mainz
told the audience, just so you know, we're on the
good side of the all. We don't want this war,
(42:05):
this violence. We're shamed of the president is from the
United States. Since they were a country band, the fan
base that largely lean conservative, this comment sparked massive backlash
in the United States, especially in the South Country. Radio
station banned their music. So hmm, if this was about
the invasion and this was about if I'm thinking of
the same war here weapons of mass destruction which never existed,
(42:28):
which we then found out we were totally lied to about.
There were never weapons of mass destruction, and I need
to make sure this is the same thing. Is this
the weapons of mass destruction war?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
The Iraq War was largely justified by the government's claim
that Tadamu Sam possessed weapons of mass destruction. No stockpiles
of wnds were ever found. Tons of criticism because they
misled us with intelligence. Wow, So looking back, looking back,
were they right? And because we didn't have the information?
(43:08):
But knowing then if you would have known, then we
were invading Iraq and we were invading under false pretense.
We'd being lied to by our politicians and they made
up the fact there are weapons of mass destruction there.
And someone gets on stage he goes, we don't want
this to happen. Is all lies? Would that have been
treated the same? I don't think it would have been
treated the same. Now. They never they never really bounced
back because it took forever for them to admit it,
(43:30):
and then people were just already like anti ye, if
they lied to us, maybe the Dixie Chicks are actual spies.
They knew all along. They were like, we don't agree
because we know there are no weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
They were hiding messages in their songs.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, that kind of sucks for the Dixie Chick It
really does, because if they're like, we're not proud of it,
and they weren't proud of it because they felt like
it was all for an unjustifiable reason. Never really thought
about it like this. But also then you know, you know,
you just don't want to be outrarly against your country.
But in Vietnam, I think all of music was doing
(44:06):
it all and you know what they were right, Yeah,
we didn't win that war. That was a war we
kind of got tricked into being into anyway, and we
didn't win that war.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, and the country didn't turn on Creeden's clear Water Revival.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
They turned on the government. A part turned on the government, Yeah,
that's true, and then a part turned on did turn
on the mute, but it wasn't as divisive because it
wasn't really a format.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
And there was kind of a movement of bands at
that point and just being like yes, we are going
to speak against this. It wasn't just one band like this, and.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
They were in the format that would turn the hardest that. Okay,
this is what it gets down to. Yeah, they were
the biggest thing in a conservative format. Had they said
the same thing at the same time and they were
a pop act or a rock act, it would not
have been the same.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Because if you look at country music during that time,
it was like Toby Keith, Red white and Blue, very patriotic, yeah,
which was obviously in a post night world. So then
you have the complete opposite here.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
I watched the clip of Toby Keith before he died
and he was like, I'm not a Republican, and I
was like, how about that. I can't believe he said that.
He was like, he said, I'm not a Democrat, and
he was doing the thing where we did. But he
was like, I'm not a Republican, which I thought it
was wild for him even to say that, because usually
you just say nothing, especially in that space. He goes,
(45:25):
just because I write American songs and like, I am
patriotic and I love this country, he said, but I'm
not a Republican. I was like, huh, I thought he
ran on that ticket. I loved Toby number two. When
Morgan Wallen almost maimed two police officers with a bar chair,
I would not put this at too if we're going
(45:46):
Morgan Wallen. If I'm being honest with you, this is
not This is not the biggest Morgan Wallen scandal.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
They got a slap on the wrist for this.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
The biggest Morgan Wallen scandal was him being drunk outside
of his house saying the N word and then everybody
being like, oh, and which, You're white dude, you can't
say that word. And I remember coming on the air
the next day and man, I was just I was
crushed for days. Now I'll say I was absolutely right
(46:18):
because I came on the air and I said, Hey, no,
you're a white person. You cannot say that word, and
there is no way you cannot do it. But I
do not think you should be canceled. I think people
are canceling people before they have People get canceled before
they have the opportunity to learn and grow. I said,
so should he whatever go away for a while. Yeah,
(46:40):
so he can understand why this isn't allowed and he
can come back and make positive of it. Should he
be canceled. No, unequivocally I said no. But should he
be able to just hang out and chill into a
show today in the studio? No, I said no, But
there's nuanced believe it or not, nuance exist. And I
(47:01):
did this and the morning after and I got crushed
by both sides. I had no allies because I said
Morgan should go away for a bit and figure out
what his next move is because obviously he's drunk, and
he had, you know, he'd been known to go pretty hard,
and you can't say the N word, and do we
need to learn why? Maybe he didn't know, but he's drunk.
(47:24):
And also he didn't say it. And I'm not saying
this is not any sort of justification, but he wasn't
talking about somebody that wasn't white. He was using it
in the contest of like contexts, like one of his boys,
which still can't do, but slight difference, then calling somebody
(47:45):
that because of generations and generations of from slaves and
what black people have had to deal with coming all
the way to today, and then saying it because you're
stupid just saying it to one of your boys, because
your boys all say that like, there nuance. This is
not a popular word. But yeah, you cannot, for any
(48:07):
reason say that word. But also, let's look at the intention.
I think we can look at intent as well. I
was like, he needs to go away. Figure it out,
figured out why you can't do this, why it's so bad,
why people are so hurt by this word. And then
I said, but we don't. Let's not cancel him whatever
that is, don't do it because I think people need
the opportunity to grow and learn and become. And I
(48:28):
say all this. Conservatives crushed me because I said it
needs to go away for a bit, freaking The woke
army was like, you're not canceling him. I had no allies,
still don't. Actually that's all right though, that's okay, okay,
but that's a rough one.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
It sucks.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
There's just no nuance. You're either all one way all
this way and you can't find a medium ground that
you tried to find. It's like, nope, you gither bed
to be one or the other or we're gonna crucify you.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, and I feel like whatever. I wasn't even like
search for ground. I was just doing the human the
understanding that this is a human being that comes from somewhere.
Possibly did not understand the significance of why that is
so hurtful to so many people to say that, and
why you can't say that. But also if there's a
(49:17):
lack of understanding, it's different than if there's a full
understanding and you're still doing it. So that was a
brutal time for me. God dang.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
And that was before the chair.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh yeah, the chair. Chair is nothing. The chair is nothing.
We came on the next day of the chair were like,
what the crap just happened? Drinking number one? Oh, do
you know what it is? Have you seen the list?
Speaker 2 (49:41):
No, I've not seen the list. I think what number
one would be.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
It's somebody that's still current in music. It's somebody that's
been in the studio seven or eight times.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Seven or eight times? Could that be?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
It's somebody that I actually like, like when I see them,
we talk like. It's not even like I don't hang
out with them purposefully, like we don't pursue Hey, let's
hang out. But if we've ended up at the same
place at times in person, delightful?
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Why do I feel like Billy Ray Cyrus could be?
But like what did he do?
Speaker 1 (50:17):
I would say, this person's had number one hits in
multiple in the past couple of years. Not only that,
but the scandal happened before we came to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Oh okay, that's probably why I'm not coming straight to me.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
But you know it, I needmore.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Give me something, just a little little one more nugget.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Has something to do with the reality show.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Okay, okay, okay, Oh yeah, I got you, I got
you go, Jason ld.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
That's exactly what it is. Now. We kind of missed
whatever explosion this was because we were I was on
CHR like pop radio. But Jason Alding got caught cheating
on his high school sweetheart and the mother of his
two children with American Idol contestant Brittany Kerr.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Remember the pictures the TMZ pictures them at a LA
club making a yeah bar but bar.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, I'm like gosh. And also I was like, I
don't care.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Are you sure we weren't here already?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'm positive. Oh yeah, I'm positive. I don't know what
you hear that was. But okay, Mike, we weren't here right,
let me check. I would bet any money in my wallet,
which I don't keep much cat.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
I feel like I would have never really seen those
pictures right before US twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, we didn't come to til twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Oh wow, so right before Yeah, so those are your.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Top ten scandals.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I don't feel good about this whole segment that it
makes you feel good warming not no warm and fuzzies
playing happiness. H oh no, Let's take one more break.
Speaker 8 (51:46):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
This is the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
I do want to do a couple and I guess
we have one, two three. We got more than a
couple of songs that are public domain that now we
can play for free, which means we can play these
on the podcast. Mike.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
So public domain means they've been around for one hundred
years or so and now they're anybody's. And the problem
is you're like, wow, now there are anybody, but there
were a hundred years ago, so they're nothing current. They're
like almost unusable. The technology is bad. Singing in the rain,
Gene Kelly, this is public domain, hidy, Mikey.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Sing in the rain.
Speaker 7 (52:25):
It's a good one though, in the rain, what a
glororious feed and I'm again.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I watch a lot of old movies. I've never seen
that one.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I've never seen any old movie, and I haven't seen
that one, but I know it like I've seen like
a clip, like YouTube clips of this performance.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I've never I've never seen what's the other the music?
Sound of music? I never seen that one either.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, me, are there? I know the songs? Yeah right,
Ain't Misbehaving by Fats Waller, No One too Long with.
Speaker 6 (52:59):
Ben'm be on the Shell, Famous Spy Aven Sam and
My Love Volume.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It's from the musical Hot Chocolates. These are all free now,
so you can do whatever you want to do, all right?
An American, you'll know this? The instrumental here an American
in Paris, George Gershwin, do you know this?
Speaker 2 (53:23):
I've seen the movie.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Okay, I've seen the movie. Did you make us watch
the movie?
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Noh, I didn't make you watch this one. The one
I made you watch was Roman Holiday. I think carry
Grants in that one too, So that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, maybe I'm getting confused. And where hebern Audrey, hebern Adrew,
hebbern Is, Katherin Hebber her daughter.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
No, they're not related. Catherine was American and then Audrey
was British.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Okay, what did I do to be So Black and Blue?
By Louis Armstrong?
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Oh my love, I've been so black and blue?
Speaker 1 (53:57):
That's super cool. You just wish it was new enough
to not have the old fuzz well fuzz. It's fun
to listen to it, but you can't really use it.
I like it because it's data and it makes you
feel the date, but like, if you're gonna use like
on the show or play it in a clip or
a movie, it's.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I don't want that.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
It's our new theme song.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, uh Tiptoe through the Tulips from Nick Lucas Tiptoe
to the Window. So I know this from Tiny Tim
doing it. I think you did the sixties, So that
is not the Tiny Tim version is not public domain now,
but this is that song, but originally by Nick Lucas.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
The Tulips.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
They use this in a horror movie called Insidious, where
anytime the demon would appear, you would hear this song.
So I have a bad association with this song.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Man the old version for free.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah, well it was before so they probably had to
pay for it.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
How about that you pay for like eight days before?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Happy Days Are Here again Ben Selvin and the Crooners.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
That's how Baller saw that Barbershop Orte.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Probably Happy Days Are Here rock again. This was originally
franklind Roosevelt's presidential campaign nineteen thirty two songs.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
How do you know all these songs? I don't know,
like you know these songs?
Speaker 1 (55:21):
You know this song?
Speaker 2 (55:21):
I've never heard this one.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
No? Oh yeah, I know almost all of them.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
That's so funny. Happy Days Are Here regat.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
A notable recordings from nineteen twenty four entering the public domain.
Nobody knows the trouble. I've seen Marian Anderson and boy,
(55:54):
that's static.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
That's major static. It feels like she's.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
In the rain, like get out of the Rain, singing
the thunderstorm around here, Rap City in Blue George Gershwin
or instrumental. I know this one. It's using a bunch
of commercials.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
I feel like Mickey Mouse is dancing black and white.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
The first part is used in like like a medical commercial.
Play again from the top again.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, that's crazy?
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Or is this was there? Somebody named This guy's name
is Jelly Roll Morton.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, Jelly I have a story about him. Play this though,
Shreveport Stomp. What's your story now? I'm thinking of lead
Belly forgot.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Everybody loves my baby, but my baby don't love me
recorded about Louis Armstrong. Everybody love my baby, my baby
don't love nobody. That's cool. One. That's sound too staticky.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
They cleaned it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
That's fine. Let's do one more here. It had to
be You by Marion Harris. You know the song, right,
no way had to be How do you know this song?
How do you know this is a famous song?
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Mike, you know the song?
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (57:23):
A lot of these are used in movies. I've been
exposed to it sometimes.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Okay, what about California? Here, I come call, You're right.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Right back?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
California, California from yeah? Uh? Notable characters Popeye? Now all Popeye?
Or is there like a very very early version that's
like Mickey Mouse's early version.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
It's like the very first version of them.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
And I don't know how true this is, but I
saw TikTok where who Popeye was?
Speaker 8 (57:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (57:59):
First, I guess there's a real guy. There's a real
sailor that he was the inspiration for Popeye.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
Looks just like Popeye that's fine.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah, I mean he had the whole, like the cheek,
you know with then he had a corn A corn
pipe is.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
A hilarious spinach make him strong.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
That No, I don't think that was brute?
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Oh? Popeye? Olive Oil? And then twelve more Mickey Mouse cartoons,
including Mickey's first talking appearance in the Carnival Kid Make
You Many first entered this year. Nothing there right.
Speaker 3 (58:29):
N still waiting on like the real Legiti Mickey to
go public domain.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
We'll be dead probably. That's from CBS News. So there
you have it. Let me check if there's anything else.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
I think you love old music. You might like old movies.
I do not. Then you just don't know.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
It like old movies. I do want to talk about
maybe the next episode or two. Here's the challenge I
want to give you. Who doesn't get credit in music
for being freaking awesome but they're low key like amazing.
I have somebody I don't want to waste it right.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
Here, okay, and you whoever you have, Everyone knows this person,
they're just not known for what they do.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
I won't say everyone. I don't want to give you
too much of a look into what I have. I
don't think this person gets near the respect that they deserve.
Transcendent in a way, but not in the same part.
But yes, famous, okay, but I think people don't. I
(59:34):
would compare it to Prince is a guitar player.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
Prince one of the greatest guitar players ever. I'm talking about.
You can list five or six, you can go buddy guy,
I could go down the list. Prince is there. But
because he had massive songs, was purple, was all the
things that Prince was as an artist. You really didn't
pay attention to the guitar playing unless you knew guitar.
(01:00:00):
But he was one of the greatest guitar players ever.
So it would be something similar to that. So think
about that the next time.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
We do this.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I have somebody now I'd love to, but right out
of time to do that. Okay, cool, Mike, you're good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
All right, Thank you, guys. Please share this on your
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