Lots to Say: NFL Honors and Radio Row with Jayden Daniels, Luke Kuechly, Deebo Samuel, and Joey Chestnut

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel attended NFL Honors and discuss the winners. How are the guys handling the food in New Orleans?  Commanders QB Jayden Daniels looks back at his amazing rookie season.  Fmr Panthers LB Luke Kuechly talks coaching and knowing Head Coach Ron Rivera.  49ers WR Deebo Samuel explains what it's like living and training in Arizona.  Competitive Eater Joey Chestnut talks about his training and reveals what food he's been on a losing streak with.  Bobby and Matt make their Super Bowl picks before wrapping up from New Orleans!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got Lost, Just say we got lost?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Just say.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
What a burger?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
And we hope you stay because we got lost.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Just said, yeah, we got lost.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Just say.

Speaker 6 (00:31):
Now, here's Bobby in that HR Date two at super Bowl?
What did you do last night?

Speaker 5 (00:37):
Last night?

Speaker 7 (00:38):
I went to uh, I went to a bar to
go see somebody was having like a little party or
something like that. I saw Ryan Kleil, Luke Keigley, saw
those guys, have known them for a while. And then
I went over and I had dinner with my agent
and Matt Liner at my old teammate from USC he
was there. So it was cool to see these guys.
You know, that's the thing about the super Bowl. You
get to come here and you're out in this environment,

(00:59):
but you don't see these guys other than one time
of the year kind of this, and so you reunite
with friends that you have seen a long time and
we had a good time.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
That's the thinking for you with the super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:09):
That's not the normal thing. I didn't even go hang
out with Luke Gekley and.

Speaker 7 (01:12):
But what did you do last night, watch it and
you crushed it and know the point? The point was,
can you please tell them what you did?

Speaker 6 (01:20):
Come on, oh, I didn't. There was a show. I
did a show.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
What show was it?

Speaker 6 (01:25):
It was the NFL Honors.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
It is a big deal, right, But what else is?

Speaker 6 (01:28):
I will tell you what I'm surprised by.

Speaker 8 (01:30):
If you're going to force me to do this. I was,
by and I'm not saying this in a humble way.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Good.

Speaker 8 (01:39):
No, I was by far the least famous person that
was on television. And what I mean by that is like,
I'm not like, no, no, you're famous. But it was
super cool for me that the NFL or the executives
at the NFL would be like, hey, you should be
on this show. So because it was either star players
or John Hamm or like a listers and then me

(02:03):
and not in a funny way, but I was like, Dan,
that's pretty like. I felt honored that they would have
me on that show because I get to do a
lot of shows and in some worlds I have a
bit more prominence.

Speaker 6 (02:13):
Not this world.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
But I mean, it's a really big deal to be
a presenter there. Yes, I think.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
That you view yourself in a certain way, but don't
understand Bobby Bones is Bobby Bones baby.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
And never been said in anyone's life.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Every tune in right now.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
I did think that it was souper Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:33):
I to me, it was really cool to be asked
to be a part of that because they don't just
at it wasn't like me. And then Snookie was presenting
after me. It was like real live people, no no offense, Snookie.
If you're out there watching, I hope you're get Snooky.
So did that and then they took it our driver Eugene,
who was awesome.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Shout out Eugene. He took us and he was like,
I'm taking to the sound shop because we're starving. We
had no dinner because.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
No, it was just an award show.

Speaker 8 (02:59):
It's an awards show. And then everybody has like spots
on their suit. And so he goes take you get
a sad and we're thinking we're going to go to.

Speaker 9 (03:06):
This like New Orleans.

Speaker 8 (03:08):
Yeah, but nine o'clock it's open late because it's Super
Bowl weekend. And he pulls up like a gas station
and we're like, oh, we're going And it's like in
New York when you go into like a store.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
It's so tightly passed.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Right.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
The moon pies look like they'd been there for fifteen years,
not opened. It didn't look.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
The presentation.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
Yes, so we go and we ordered the sandwich called
like a moof some weird name, never heard of it. It
goes order this order a hot and it was the
most New Orleans thing. And I say that in a
good way and also a difficult way because it was
like meat and alas and spices. I had like four
bites and I was like, I could get it. If
you loved this, this will be your thing. Yeah, man,
I'm hurting today.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
You're hurting today.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
You're like, Oh, maybe I need to go to the
Walgreens and get myself in the pep though to match
the shirt.

Speaker 8 (03:56):
Because once I hit the shirt, this shirt, I mean,
I know, for those that don't are watching this, I'm
in a pink shirt.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Did not but look solid.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (04:06):
Once I hit forty, dude, I can't even eat stuff anymore.
And the New Orleans that I had with him, shout out, Eugene, that's.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Not for me, that's not for you.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
What do you eat here? Are you doing the New
Orleans stuff?

Speaker 5 (04:15):
You know, I'm new to this city in every way.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
Right, it's overwhelming because everybody recommends a little bit of this,
that and the other, and then you're going out, you know,
meeting friends here. And we had a great dinner last night,
but it was a traditional like steak dinner, gumbo and
a too. It wasn't anything like that. But that's something
that I would like to get into. But I really
just I haven't had time to go out and really
dig into the culture, the food scene, because I'm somewhat

(04:40):
of a foodie.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I love food. I love all different types of food.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
There's nothing that I'm sitting there going I wouldn't eat
that or wouldn't try that. So I need to get
out today and go really explore so I can make
my stomach hurt on the plane tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (04:52):
That's good though, you get to go home. Yeah, if
I have it here, I have to stay here for
a few days. Yeah, we're gonna have Luke Keickley combined
a few minutes.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
What's he like?

Speaker 7 (04:59):
Man, You'll meet him and just you feel his presence immediately.
There's something about him, understand Like I played against him,
I compete against him, but when you see him off
the field.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
The type of person he is.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
The character that he just presents himself with is special,
but just a dude. You know, a guy that you respect,
but then you get to meet him. He's just down
to earth and just a guy that loved football. I
always was a guy that respected him, but really appreciate
him when you get to know the person himself.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
One of the greatest of all time.

Speaker 8 (05:32):
And I think him playing in a small market and
probably not for as long as most of the Goats
have to played because he had a short.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
Yeah it was nine years and I think it was
head injuries at the end that forced him to retire,
which you never want to see a guy go out
like that, especially that type of calber player. But to
say that during that tenure, capitalize on every minute. I
mean seven time Pro Bowl or Rookie of the Year
when he came in, I mean he was like twenty
years old when he twenty just turned twenty.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
One when he came in and just lit the league
on fire.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
You know we should mention too, is Jared Allen made
the freaking Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 (06:04):
I know, how about when we interviewed him and the
first thing out of the gate you asked him about,
you know, getting kind of looked over for the Hall
of Fame, and it kind of was a sore, touchy subject,
but he went through that whole thing hoping that this
was his year and really incredible for him to finally
get the notoriety that he deserves.

Speaker 8 (06:25):
I was so happy for him, and again I only
know him from like you bring him over to the house.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
Congrats Jared.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
We know you're listening to this because you're a number
one fan, but congratulations.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
All Right, we got a bunch bunch planned. We're in
New Orleans.

Speaker 8 (06:36):
We'll take a break and come back with a bunch
of really good interviews, including Jayden Daniels. All Right, at first,

(06:56):
we have Rookie of the Year. Last night I saw
him at the honors. Dude, it was so cool, like
get mad. I watch him like be a fan by it, right,
Which is cool because I think you could probably speak
to this. When you're a natural athlete or a hard
working athlete that is rewarded your whole life by it,
a lot of times there's an expectation or I'm gonna

(07:18):
work hard.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
And get it, even if it's not an expectation.

Speaker 8 (07:20):
Right with him, may I was sitting right beside him.
It looked like it mattered so much and was super
cool to see.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
But this guy was electric this year.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
What I mean this year, just think about the last
two years, winning the Heisman Trophy, coming in as a
number two pick, great point, and then all of a
sudden you go to an organization that had won four
games and to take them to New Heights and been
to the NFC Championship game since what ninety one. I
think it was so to completely transform that organization in

(07:50):
the his just humble approach and his personality. You know,
it's one of those where he walks around and I've
seen him around here and you can just tell there's
something different about the guy, and he's he's special in
the League's in really good hands with guys like that
that are coming in. But the way that he played
this season, the poise, the composure of the confidence, I mean,

(08:10):
they they've gotta they've got a stud there for a
long period of time.

Speaker 8 (08:13):
Walking up down here, it comes this is Jaden Daniels
uh deon Sanders.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Somebody put his glasses on me there not prescription. I'm
blind right now.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
I know you forever and he's like put these on.
I'm like now and now I'm my brain's fried out
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Why he's gotta it was like, I'm gonna.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
Get some of these glasses, and I was like, all right,
and he puts them on, and my eyes are shot
and so I wear them and now I'm just like
what planet. Oh you guys go over there, congrats on
last appreciate that. That's that's awesome. Like it looked like
that that Matt like it was sincere.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
It felt sincere from you. What that feel like?

Speaker 10 (08:46):
Oh man, it was a I don't know, it was awesome,
Like it's something I wanted to win a rookie year
and you know.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Just to go out there and do it.

Speaker 10 (08:53):
I mean it's tough to even have a successful rookie
year in this league.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Yeah, I mean you didn't just have a successful rookie year,
you had one of the greatest rookie years of all time.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
When you came into the league.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Was this.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
I know you have your goals and everything like that,
but did you.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
Ever envision the success that you had this year coming in?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Like the way that the season.

Speaker 10 (09:16):
Played, Nah, I knew we were gonna be able to compete,
and obviously, like the goals were the playoffs, but to
say like we're gonna be an NFC championship game and
stuff like that, Like, nah, I didn't expect any of that.

Speaker 8 (09:30):
Whenever you're described, even last night at the honors, they're like,
he's the coolest, he's the chill list, like nothing affects him.
Is that your personality on and off the field.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah, man, that's just me. Like I'm a reserve person.

Speaker 10 (09:43):
I just like to chill, not really be in the
limelight too much, even though it comes with the position
I'm in, but now I just like to hang out
with with my boys.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
Yeah, and coming in the season when you look at
the dynamics of this team, you've got the new coach
with dan quainn new ownership, but I think one of
the biggest season I want to hear your take on
your relationship with Cliff Kingsbury. You're off defensive coordinator in
the fit that that was in terms of the type
of play.

Speaker 10 (10:09):
That you have, Man, if anybody knows Cliff, like Cliff
is the most coolest, funniest human beings that ever.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Like Cliff cares about everybody.

Speaker 10 (10:18):
He's going to be a real good dude, real genuine
actually a play caller, like very creative, like I've seen
Cliff like grinding tape five five o'clock in the morning,
like Cliff, Like Cliff is a mania.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
I feel like that.

Speaker 10 (10:33):
But man, just be on the same page with Cliff
and be able to have this success.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Man, I'm glad he's coming back another year.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
That was my next question.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
Obviously, you want your guys, the people that you love,
to do great things, and so eventually he's gonna go
and be a head coach somewhere.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
He could have done it this year, but he decided
to stay.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
So there's got to be a little of you that's like, Man,
I like to see my guy go do it, but
mostly I want him to stay and be my guy
again next year.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 10 (11:00):
I like if Cliff would have took a job, I
always been happy for him. But like, if anybody would
ask me about him, I probably say some bad things
kind of rub on the wrong way on Cliff, But nah, man,
I love.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Cliff Man for real.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Man, I when I was watching these games, I mean,
do you know, going in the game, we're going for
it on every single fourth down that comes up.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Because it's crazy to watch it.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Every time I'm watching I'm like, man, James gotta be
ready for enough.

Speaker 10 (11:25):
Four down pretty much pretty much. I tell d Q,
I'll be like, let's go. I want to go for it.
Like Cliff is like the same, the same way. Like
I think DQ and Cliff talking to head like, all right,
you got two downs here. Now I can just tell
base I call that Cliff calls. I'm like, okay, we
got two downs here.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Describe Terry mcclin. What what's what's he like?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (11:45):
Real, real good dude, real genuine, very passionate and like
a pros pro like you know people say that word,
but like Terry's the pros pro Like. He shows up
to work every day, very consistent, routine based, and for him,
it's going out there and really just showcasing his talents

(12:06):
and showcase the way you could do it. I mean,
Terry's probably one of the most underrated players in this
league and he's very good.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
Was this one of the longest just overall seasons and
obviously coming from college, right, you go through everything training
getting ready, But talk to us about that grind, because
I know it's a mental grind for every player, particularly
that rookie season.

Speaker 10 (12:26):
Man, I'm I'm I'm happy that I can't wait to
leave here.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Man, it's been it's been a long year. It's literally
been from from January to February.

Speaker 10 (12:34):
Literally, but it's a long grind. Like all the rookies,
I gotta go through it now, they got to go
through the pre draft. You gotta go to combine thirty visits,
pro days like all that, and then you probably got
like a week to get ready for mini camp and
you got OTA's.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
You gotta find the.

Speaker 10 (12:52):
Crib, and then you got to figure out how to
become a pro. And it's a long year, especially if
you're team. You're on a good team, your team's good
enough to go to the super Bowl or something like that.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
It's a long year. So that meant gud. You gotta
be able to find ways to reset.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
One year ago, you could tell that guy give him
one piece of advice. You given yourself a piece of
advice a year ago, Like what would you say to yourself?

Speaker 10 (13:18):
Like I said, learn how to reset, Learn how to
it's okay to to kind of get away from the game.
And you don't have to be football football all the time,
you know, especially for your mental health.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
But I'll figure it out over time, for sure.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
You gotta do anything fun now this obviueen once this weekends,
like some reset, but about about.

Speaker 10 (13:38):
To go back to go back to Soco, get some
warm weather yep, and then figure out if I want
to go where I'm gonna.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
Go on a little vacation at Yeah, I wouldn't tellnybody
where you're going on vacation, and they try to figure
that out, try to figure that out.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
Have you felt as your notoriety has grown that you
can go less and less places with that people coming
up to you?

Speaker 10 (13:58):
Oh yeah, man, Like it's been crazy. This whole week's
been crazy. Even walking through here has been crazy. It's
like people's like follow me or stopping and trying to
take picte and everything.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
But it just comes with the territory.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Yeah, going into next year obviously season just is frustrating.
But goals as a team, I mean, you guys accomplished
a lot this year.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, but where do you want to take this order? Obviously?

Speaker 10 (14:21):
Ultimately yeah, I think, I mean ultimately all thirty two
want to play in that game that's being played on Sunday,
So I mean that's the main goal. But the goals, like, man,
when ota start like whoever they bring in, like the
new teammates, whoever, Like, how can we get better? How
can we jail as a locker room to really.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Go out there.

Speaker 10 (14:40):
By the time September, October and really December January, football
come around, like you're playing that's your best and you
guys trust each other.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Everybody's fining around and doing your best.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Final question the digital training.

Speaker 8 (14:53):
Yeah yeah, so you know a lot was made of
you using that and that being very effective.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Why who taught you this?

Speaker 8 (15:03):
This would be you know, such an effective tool, and really,
what have you taken taken away from that?

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (15:08):
You don't get hurt doing that? That's a part too.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
So I was at LSU Jack Marucci.

Speaker 10 (15:14):
I don't know if you guys heard about Marucci bats,
you know, baseball and all that. He works at LSU,
and he kind of brought that to my attention, like
they brought some people in from Germany and we tried
it out. I was like, oh, this is this is
different and he was like, man, I think it will
help you out a lot. So LSU invested in it.

(15:35):
I started using it my last year LSU after before
the Mississippi State game, and then I think that game.
I probably had like three in completion and from there
I use it every game. And then I went to
the NFL Washington invested in it, so I use it now.
But it's just another way to get let's say, how

(15:56):
but there's another way to get mental reps and actual
reps without having to lace up your clease or you know, warm.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Up to throw football.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
So what are you see?

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (16:05):
That like like shells, So.

Speaker 10 (16:07):
It's like a video game like but the actual real
human movements. And it's like you're in the stadium, like
the stadiums to a t, like the shot clocks everything,
it's everywhere, and you're going your playbook and it's like, okay,
different variations of cover four, different variations to cover three,
stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
So it's crazy, man. I wish they would have had
that when I played. Maybe I would have talk more
than three completions.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Congratulations, really appreciate, really great to see.

Speaker 8 (16:38):
What was great was to see like that area of
the country, that that region that come together for the
first time. I have pride and the commanders and you
and your guys brought THATSS.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
So congratulations for that. Obviously all the personal.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
Accolades as well, but you know, just to be able
to bring like pride to an organization that has to
feel awesome. So I hope you have a great, healthy
offseason and we appreciate you down from buying.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Thank y'all for having me appreciate you. Thanks for being here.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Man, I'm gonna let you say some stuff about Luke
Keickley here.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Thank you. I appreciate that because, I mean, I've got
so much respect for him. I've got to know him
off the field.

Speaker 7 (17:29):
He's good friends with mutual friends that we have. But
what a stud did I mean? Even when you see him,
he looks like Superman. He's got that chisel jaw. Good
looking guy and the play speaks for itself. But off
the field, he's a better human than he is even
a player. And that's hard to say with what he's
accomplished over his career.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
Here he is former Carolina Panther Luke Keikley.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
All right, now, we've got a friend of mine, incredible player,
future Hall of Famer, Luke Keighley, one of the best
linebackers that ever do it.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Join the pod Man. How you doing? You're looking like Superman?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Hay mill Man, just trying to trying to survive, out
here for a couple of days. There's a lot going on.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I always enjoy coming out because you can to see
everybody that you see. You might see him only once
or twice a year, and this is a great opportunity
to do it. So go see all my boys cams
over there. It's good to see him just bigger than
life personality.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
So it's it's a good crew. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
You during your playing career, I always say this, who's
the toughest guy? You always will go up against it.
I always say you because you would call I was
telling this.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Story last night. I was like, he'd call out all
of our plays. We're running to the right. He's like,
that's going to the right, we're going to the left.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Talk to me about your preparation in the in what
you did throughout the course of a week to make
you perform the.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Way that you did on game day.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, I think a lot of it started when we
were in high school. Our coach used to have us
down into his office during lunch and he'd put on
VHS tapes and he'd show us clips, and he'd show
us game tape. And you know, as a young kid,
you don't really understand it, and then you know, senior
year comes around, you're like, man, I saw that same
play on tape earlier in the week, maybe it's going
to be that. And then you get you get that

(19:04):
kind of the chance to say, hey, that what happened
there worked and then I fast forward it to the
NFL instead of it being on VHS tapes. It's all
broken down. You got pro football focus, you got everything
can breaking down by personnel group, down in distance, situation,
who's touching the ball, when they're touching the ball, and
it gives you a really good opportunity if you can
find a system that works for you. You know, you have Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

(19:27):
Saturday to get ready, and so I tried to break
everything down by day of the week, and by the
time the week ended, I felt like I had every
aspect of the game covered that I wanted. And when
the game pops up, you've had it during meetings, You've
had it during walk through you've had it during practice,
you've had it during tape watching after practice, and then
the game happens and the ball gets snapped. You said,
I've seen this play five or six times through my preparation,

(19:47):
then football kind of slows down for you.

Speaker 8 (19:49):
Could you identify tells in certain quarterbacks that maybe they
didn't even know they were showing.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't think necessarily it's that. I think a lot
of it for me was all right, what's the formation,
what's the situation?

Speaker 9 (20:00):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
So if it's you know, if it was a two
by two play and it was a shotgun, and it's
a gun two by two gun far their top run
plays are this, this and this boom. So we get under,
they get they get out of the huddle, they break
the huddle. I'm playing linebacker. I know that the guard's
probably gonna give me my best key. The guard pools automatically. No,
it's one back power. It's a double team in an
overfront up to me, the guard's gonna come offrom the

(20:21):
a gap. So once you know that, then the game
slows down. Say I'm front side, Say now I'm an
a gap player, and the ball gets snapped, they run
that same play boom. Now the guy that's assigned to
block me is either the tight end if we've got
a wide nine, if he's in this, if we got
a C gap defender. Now I'm the spill player to
the sports safety. So the ball gets snapped and if
you've seen it a million times now, I know exactly

(20:42):
who's gonna block me and know where the ball is
supposed to hit. If I can beat the guy signed
to block me, I can make a play on the football.
So that's kind of how I always approach it is
what does the situation say? What is it down to distance?
What is the formation? And once you get that, then
I felt like the games slowed down big time.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
And you can see why this guy had the success
that he did, just the way that he talks about
the game, the passion.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Have you ever thought about getting into coaching.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I would love to coach in the NFL. I think
it'd be really fun and just kind of be around
the game and feel the energy of the crowd and
be there grinding with the guys in that practice. It's
just so fun and I missed that about the game.
But the time commitment is something I'm not ready. I'm
not ready to do yet. But like we talked about
last night, I coach a seventh and eighth grade football
team with Greg Olsen and Jonathan Stewart and Todd Blackledge,

(21:26):
Old Penn State quarterback, first round pick. And then of
course Greg's dad who coached high school football forever in Jersey,
So we get the we get the coaching itch and
the football itch scratched through a lot of a lot
of outlets in seventh and eighth grade football, certainly one
of them.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
Can you explain I discipline and how important that is?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
One hundred percent? So I think you know, for us
it's we'll talk about the run game, and for us
it's always where's your best tell? Where's your best tell?
Is that alignment is an offset running back or full back,
it's an h back. So if we were getting a
formation and the tight ends off the ball, I loved
tight ends off the ball because if that ball, if
he stays front side, my gap doesn't change dryden less

(22:05):
there's a pooler. If he comes back across the formation
some sort of split action, whether it's split zone or
if it's counter now, my gap changes. So I think
guys get in trouble when they try to see too much.
Just see one or two things. Once you get those
one or two things, you should know what the play is.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
Yeah, when you went up against what offense? When you
go up against something and you say, this is going
to be challenging. They don't have a lot of tails,
and it's one of those things where you're just gonna
have to go out and be reactionary. Was there an
offense that was like that when you played well?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
The one that always gave you issues was like when
we played New Orleans So Sean Payton Drew Brees, obviously
they were together the whole time in New Orleans when
I was playing so and then our defense was largely
the same. We had three different coordinators. Obviously McDermott left,
got a job, Wilkes got a job, and then Eric
Washington was the last coordinator that I had. Our defense
stayed pretty much the same. So with that being said,

(22:54):
the Saints knew what we were trying to do. We
knew what the Saints are going to try to do.
So at the end of the day, it was really
just playing. Like you said, what is my key? Tell
me if that guy pools, it's a pool, I gotta
trust it. I can't anticipate, all right, we're it's this formation.
They've showed me this. It could be that you got
to trust what's in front of you and then go react.
I think the biggest thing is as a linebacker, as
a quarterback, really playing football in general is how quickly

(23:16):
can you identify a key? And then how quickly can
you process that key? And once you can process that key, boom,
now it can start moving in the right direction. So
I think I discipline is huge. See what you need
to see, don't see everything, See what you need to see.
Once you see that tell in that key, how quickly
can you process it in the sense of all right,
this guy's coming to me, he stepped in his front
side zone and then boom, how quickly do I know

(23:37):
where I got to get to to make the plan?

Speaker 9 (23:38):
In football?

Speaker 8 (23:39):
Do you wish you had in helmet communication back when
you played or were you so prepared that was such
an advantage for you that there wasn't in helmet communication?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, so in college we never had it, but in
the NFL we had it. So they'd cut out and
think at what Matt fifteen seconds. I loved I loved
the helmet communication. I felt like it really it helped
call me down in between plays in college.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Sor I should have said, oh yeah in college? Was that?

Speaker 8 (24:06):
Were you the same studious player? And again, would you
have liked to have had it, or would that have
maybe hurt one.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Of your superpowers.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I felt like it everything happened at the right time
for me. I think in college I think what we
had was perfect. We were just all signals. So I
think it helped me moving forward in the sense of
when I was playing in the NFL, I wouldn't look
at the sideline because they didn't need to. I would
always look at people coming. So if this is our
sidelines over here and this is their sidelines, I'm always
looking through their huddle to their sideline to see what's

(24:38):
going on. I don't need to look at our sideline
because I can hear everything in my helmet. But it
then at sometimes the headset goes out. I need to
be able to look to the sideline, pick up keys,
pick up signs, and be able to quickly relay to
everybody on the field. So I think having only signals
in signs in college football probably was really good for
me in the sense of I learned how to do that,

(24:58):
and then I got through the NFL I had the
in helmet communication and that was super beneficial. So I
think it kind of just happened at the right time
for me.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Who are some of the guys when you first came
into the league that like impacted you and kind of
took you under their way, and that you looked up
to and had a positive influence on you as you
went and started your NFL career.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
So I think when I got there, a big guy
was Jordan Gross, so he was there. I played with
Jordan for two years, so I got him. He was
like the elder statesman, the guy on the team.

Speaker 9 (25:26):
He was awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
And then for a large part of my career on
the offensive side of the ball, it was it was Ryan,
Ryan Khalil, and then Greg Olsen. Just great dudes, like
teach you a lot about the game of football, but
very you know. I got down to the Carolina I
was twenty I turned twenty one the week before the draft,
so I was like a baby. I was trying to
figure my life out. And I had Ryan and Greg
both Ryan's great, married to Natalie, She's awesome. Greg's married

(25:51):
to Kara, She's fantastic. And it's like I had a
family away from Cincinnati that I could just I had
Christmas at their house, I had Thanksgiving at their house.
I would go over and hang out with their kids.
We'd go over to Ryan's house after games and watch
movies in the basement.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
It felt very.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Comfortable, and you know, they taught me a lot about
the game of football and how to prepare in the offseason.
Greg and I worked out in the offseason, and he
showed me our speed training, how to structure your week,
what's important, how to tailor your workout for what you're
going to be doing on the field. So awesome, Greg, Ryan.
I could talk about them forever and their families and
Natalie and Kara and I could go on for that forever,

(26:27):
and then on the field and in the locker room
and TD Thomas Davis did a lot for me off
the field as well. But a guy that was in
my room that I just got to watch how we practiced,
how he played toughness, three acls on the same knee,
broke his finger during a game, popped out of his skin,
didn't miss a snap, played in the Super Bowl with
a broken arm, played just unbelievable spirit for the game

(26:52):
of football. Guy that was able to create and foster
such good relationships with guys in the team, and those
relationships really paid dividends in the sense of when a
guy's having a bad day, he can go connect with them.
It's not like if I don't know you, Matt and
you're having a bad day, I'm gonna get mad at you,
like no, no, maybe you've got something going on. And
if I have a real relationship with you, I can

(27:12):
play him, Matley, what's up? Like you're right, You're like no,
you know what, like blah blah blah. And then Thomas
was able to go relay that to Ron River in
the sense of like, hey, look, coach so and so
is having a bad day. Like I understand he's having
a bad day, but this is what's going on. And
Ron would be like, okay, all right, cool and so
just effort, toughness, relationship building the game of football really

(27:34):
mattered to him. He was so selfless off the field
with his foundation. Same with Greg and Ryan they were
the same way. But I had really good mentors both
in my room on the defensive side of the ball,
on and off the field, you know, with Jordan and
Ryan and Greg and obviously Thomas.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
I'm talking about PXG in just a second, Yeah, I
want to you mentioned coach Vera.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
I was with Coach verf like thirty minutes last night.
I love him.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
I had never played for him, but like as a dude,
like first time I met him, so warm.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
What was he like as a coach?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Great person, cared about the guys, put a lot of
onus on the guys to run the team in a
good way. I mean, you look at our roster. It
was you know, Greg and Ryan and Cam and Charles
Johnson and Dwan Edwards was an older guy. When I
got there, it was Stu or Steve Engross, and we
just had really good veteran leadership on the team. And
Ron did a really good job of putting a lot

(28:24):
of He was a great empower, like, hey, this is
your guys team, I can help you anyway I need to.
And he was ultra consistent, never high, never low, and
had such respect of the guys that when he needed
to get on us, he was still a big man
in charge. And we all knew that and he knew that,
but he never took advantage of it. And how he
was with you is how he was with all the guys.

(28:45):
He cares about his guys as people and then obviously
as players. But I always felt like with Ron he
was just like it was like one of my boys.
Like he was like an older guy on the team.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Ron.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I think Ron wanted so bad to just be a
player and be around it and be in the building
and like have the jokes with the guys. And we
played plenty of jokes on It was so fun. He
created an atmosphere of we're gonna work really hard, We're
gonna be really tough. I'm gonna put a lot of
I'm gonna give you guys a lot of ownership of
your team to do things the right way. I'll step

(29:17):
in if I need to, but I'm gonna kind of
guide you guys.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
He had a.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Leadership group of the older guys, and stuff kind of
funneled from Ron to the older guys to the locker room,
and he just he had a great feel for people.
He was a great relationship builder. He played the game
at a high level. Obviously with the Bears, he won
a Super Bowl. He was a part of a great defense.
He played with great players. He coached Lack and Briggs
and the guys out in San Diego. He kind of

(29:43):
just checks every box that you want wanted from a coach,
and he let his coaches coach. He let you know
Mike Shula, and he let Sean McDermott and Steve Wilkes
and Eric Washington are other defense coordinator. He let those
guys coach. And I never felt for a second like
those guys felt any kind of pressure from Ron to

(30:04):
be anything or do anything. He was just a special
guy and we were very fortunate to have him there.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
PXG.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, yeahs.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Can we get a discount time and then head you
know the right people, you can always get a discount.
But you know what I got done playing and you
have a ton of free time. I used to be
a big fisherman. My buddy that I fished with left Carolina.
He actually works with the Commanders now, great dude, brettnee neighbor,
strength coach, director of Performance Stut love him, but he left,
and then I needed stuff to go do with guys

(30:31):
in the spring. So I started playing a lot of golf.
And I had the same clubs for about ten years,
and my buddies were always like, hey, you need to
get some new clubs. You're not very good. These will
help you be a little bit better. So last year
I got I got fitted up at the PXG store
in Charlotte and you know it is. They do everything.
They measure you. They make sure the length is correct,
your grips are right, how the club face is structured.

(30:51):
They make sure they put you in the right club
for guys, they need that stink. They give you a
club that can help you get out of trouble. Obviously
out of Scottsdale, Zona, veteran owned company. And I love
playing golf, but it's a lot more fun when you're playing,
when you're playing better golf and hitting good shots.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
So you guys on of that, Yeah, I definitely need
some p X. Jeez.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I mean everybody, everybody need everybody, everybody.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
I know, they save you. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Like, I'm not just saying this either.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
I hit.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I brought those clubs out for the first time last
year and I hit one of them.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Was like, whoa.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
I kind of like that. I actually liked all more. Now.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yes, it's fun, man, it's just all the technology that
goes into and they've already got a new style, a
new uh I think it's a Gen seven came out
this year that I'm sure is even better than the
previous rendition of them.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Oh, we appreciate your time, and I hope you forget
rest weekend.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
I appreciate you guys. Great to see you brothers, guys.

Speaker 8 (31:39):
As always, I'm excited about this one. I never met
Deebo Samuel. Do you know Debot?

Speaker 5 (31:59):
I don't. I don't, but i've all I mean, what
a stud too, right.

Speaker 8 (32:03):
I know, like the dude does it all and like
goes hard and sometimes I feel like goes too hard,
like plays hurt and then gets even hurt. But like
I admire that, and he does. He runs a ball,
he's a wide receiver. I don't know, Debo.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
He's in like a.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
Blue like track suit, get tattoos on his squads, like
I wish I could pull that off. So I've been
excited about this one all day because this guy like athlete.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Just an athlete, like a ball player, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
He's a competitor and all that. I think you guys
are gonna hit off though, because I think.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
We look like people been confusing us all all weekend athletically.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
But you also you've got swag. I think he's got swag.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Very much, just that you don't, no, absolutely have more
than I do.

Speaker 8 (32:47):
I'm I wear a black yourself differently than anybody la
hat like.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
But a black Dodger hat that takes swag because it's right.
He's coming up now. Your black Dodger hat is cool.
I hear he is. Deebo, Samuel Deebo. How you feeling good?

Speaker 9 (33:03):
Healthy?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Cool? Celeen? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
You the only want to bring that. I appreciate that.
I appreciate that. Uh yeah, I guess first thing out
like where are you at training?

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Like?

Speaker 6 (33:16):
How's the body?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Body good out there? Training in Arizona?

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Eggs?

Speaker 8 (33:20):
Yeah, you live in Arizona or you train in Arizona.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
Both?

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (33:26):
You like you like training in that heat like.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
That when it gets like towards the end of the
middle of July, you don't go outside at the ten
o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Really nine o'clock.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Does that payoff?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Though?

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Training in such heat? We not training out there that
you're not going out in it at all.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
It's eight o'clock in the morning. They get their work
out in before it gets one fifteen.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
You better be high.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
Man, it is so hot out there. But I mean,
this season obviously didn't end how you guys wanted it to.
You guys had some injuries and stuff like that, But
talk to me a little bit about brock Purty this offense,
where you guys are going, because obviously this is a
team that's a veteran team and has goals and ambition
of winning that Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Been there, you know, I see this team going going
far again, only because you know, Rocky is only getting better.
We got these two young cats in our in the
receiver room who is amazing players, Ricky and Jacob, Like
I tell them, two guys every day, like you guys
gonna be exactly where y'all need to be. And like

(34:26):
you know, Ricky came in and shows spurts of the
things that he's gonna be able to do like for
the years to come. Jacob, you know, showed glimpses of
things that he can do when the opportunity to present themselves.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
And he was a great returner for us. So you
know what, overall, I think it would be pretty good.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
In your dream, are you catching the touchdown pass? Are
you running a touchdown pass?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Getting in that zone like what you want?

Speaker 6 (34:48):
I really catch it?

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (34:50):
In your heart?

Speaker 8 (34:51):
Natural receiver first, your whole life, you feel like you
were a receiver first.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
All my life, I was a running back.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
That's That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, so when I started playing receiver was fun.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
So when do they put you in the backfield and
you you they ask you to like be in that
running back position, You're like, perfectly fine, totally fine with that.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Cool.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (35:11):
Is it because you are so versatile, you've got to
learn a little. We gotta play both you have to
learn what both positions do.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Are you in both rooms?

Speaker 5 (35:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I'm not in both rooms. Not in both rooms.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
It's just like my coach, running back coach Bobby t
always telling when you get the balls in your hand,
be you. If you see it, hit it, if you
feel like it's a cut there, you make the gut.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
I never get told me somebody better than what you are.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
Now now that you are like the veteran guy, you
know your role changes, right, you're the veteran guy, and
you talked about some of those young guys. Do you
take pride in helping those guys develop? And how does
that go for you?

Speaker 4 (35:51):
It's amazing, you know. I just start off with Ricky
and Jake. You know they can't They.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Was in Arizona last simmer training with me.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
For sure, you know, they had to go back early
because you know, the rookies go back early before we do.
But you know, with what RICKI was dealt with at
the beginning of the season, it was outraged, It was crazy,
but man like it could be some days. Why I
walk in the room and like some days I'm not
all the way myself, for it's like, you know, in
the best mood ever. But I walk in the room

(36:20):
and I look at those two guys and I'm just like, yo, Like,
I don't want these two to feel like when they
get to this point in their career they can.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Be like this.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
So I'll walk in the room and be like, all right,
let me, let me get myself together and be that leader,
be that.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Guy that they always know they can lean on.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
And when they get to this position, I'm just you know,
just giving them a heads up on how to approach
it and how to help.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Their young guys.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Who was that for?

Speaker 5 (36:39):
You? Did that? You?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Manuel Sanders Manuill Sanders was the best because I mean
everything he did, I watched everything can do. Not too
many people can you know, I was taking paths and
doing all this you know, the little rookie shit or whatever.
But I mean the way he approached the game, the
way he watched tape, the way he see the game.
I think at that point he was already like your

(37:02):
team up passed your team at that point, and he's
seen it, so why not you know, listen to him
see the things that he did. And you know, as
as me growing, I still I still talk to him
to this day, even like like situations that I'd be
going through. I'm like, bro, like, what's some advice that
you can give me to get me out of this?

Speaker 3 (37:19):
You know what I'm saying. And he was just you know,
just being always been the big brother to me.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
Is there a defensive back that you look and you
circle it and go, man, I can't wait to compete
itim against the skin?

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Not like that, No, just your your hype every game
for sure, consistent. Yeah, go out there, beat up on
some pool.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
Do you ever get to look the screen and see
people chasing you? Do you ever do that?

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
I have, I have, I have them bore.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
That means time has slowed down where you're comfortable enough
that you can because when I run my head.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Bombs like that, I ain't saying anything because I'm not comfortable.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
So you're you've seen the screen, like you can see
where people are.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yah, yeah, that's gotta be the greatest liken.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
You like like sometimes when you run it and you
know you like, you like gone, but then you you
like cruising but you're not really running as you can
and you see him getting close to it up a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
It be some of the moments.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
But so I never had that moment.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
Yeah, it would feel so good to just be looking
up at the string, going, man, I'm out, I'm gone.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
Mountain de here, mountain, what's what special flavor?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Especially you ain't never had what's what tropical dream?

Speaker 8 (38:25):
I drank mountain dew by like the three Leader, but
I know I haven't had that so one.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
You know, it's nothing better than like, yeah, no, mountain
my blood, like, nothing better.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Than mountain doing in football.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
I'm here with mountain dew one hundred percent and we
got a tropical line by how blast the best mountain
dew you even ever had. But if you want to
take the one that I have and tasting you you can,
you can, you can be the judge of its taste.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
You got it?

Speaker 9 (38:50):
Now?

Speaker 6 (38:50):
I am a mountain dew efficient all right.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
That's probably.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Best.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
I'm from Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
This is water do alright, let's do it.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Listen, let's see gonna get.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
I like to do like wine.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
Yeah, factory in northern California.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah, it's a good mountain.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
Yeah, it's enough of the real mountain dude to still
tastes like mountain dude with that little.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Little tropical line. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's good. Dangn that is good.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
I'm gonna keep this. I'm glad you got.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
Sorry you don't want to after me?

Speaker 5 (39:25):
No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
You would if you wasn't on set.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
But wa you do in New Orleans?

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Like what do you do while you're here?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
This is working man, just chill, you know. Enjoyed the scene.
You know, it's my first time I'm out.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
Here, so the only thing so it's not even like
real New Orleans food food food food.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I haven't had some bad food. That's a bad food.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Last night that's a bad food. My first night, and
I went to the seafood Little Balls. But it was
hot as hell though, like it was hot, the season
was hot.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I'm just like all that food was hot. I can't
even enjoy it. It was so spicy, Like I said,
none spice.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
I don't like having a breast up on my hands, though.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I mean, come on, like, if you you think.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
I'm gonna get this Selene shirt, I'm gonna up here.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
With a saline shirt. You can war did take it to.

Speaker 8 (40:06):
The clips, But I'm not arguing that that is incorrect
because now I can't. But I grew up very poor,
so the things I do have now, I don't want
to get craps, juice all them.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
You can get it clean.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Fair enough, you can get it clean.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
And I see, now you're my Emmanuel Sanders. This was happening.
I'm taking lessons.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
It was so crazy. Manuel used to come to work
fit it did he really?

Speaker 4 (40:28):
I'm talking about seven o'clock in the morning, full fit.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Like isn't it amazing? Some dudes when you come in
the locker room and they're like, I'm like, where are
you going?

Speaker 7 (40:36):
You're about to You're about to undress and get into
like sweatpants and whatever they put in your locker, but
they're fitted up, and you're like, Okay, I love it.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
He's gotta swag.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
He definitely fitted up.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
Yeah, are you just like whatever? I'll wear my sandals, sneakers.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
I wake up in the morning the first day of
the first hoodie jogging suit.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I see in the closet, that's what I'm put.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
On and put my there's a clean though, like I'm not.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
I'm not going to the stadium right now, Like what's
going on?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I thought those girls shoes, but.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
Yeah, gotta be like that. These are my Pete traps scutts. Yeah, yeah,
forgot peak shirt on.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
I'm so masculine different, I'm so masculine rock.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
Pink, you got it, you rock it hard.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
I I'm keeping them mountain do though. Debo appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 8 (41:20):
Funny.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Who knew you were funny?

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Really funny?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Because you don't know.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
I don't know. That's what I'm saying, go off of
what you see. That's but what else am I supposed
to go with you?

Speaker 5 (41:28):
If you go off with you?

Speaker 3 (41:29):
See what type of person?

Speaker 5 (41:30):
I'm uh?

Speaker 8 (41:31):
You are a series A demanding of excellence. I'm gonna
be honest, is what I thought about you. You demand excellence,
You play hurt, and you go probably a little harder at.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
Times than you should for the sake of the team.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
That's my feeling about you from only seeing you from
ten thousand feet up. Because I don't know your personality,
but I watch you play and I see your intensity
and I see the different things that you do, and
I go like, like, that's a dude that I like
would relate to and like how he works.

Speaker 6 (42:01):
But I know you're funny.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Appreciate it. Yeah said it was your school. May you
know he's an alpha.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
He's take this, Alena and we get your hands thirty
would I'm only alpha and double pink, So debo.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
Good to see man.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I appreciate you getting to see that. Yes up, Yeah,
we got a lot to say.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
And now listen.

Speaker 8 (42:25):
All those interviews so far been awesome and we're super
lucky to have them because in their own categories they
are all the top one percent.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
But now the goat, the goat, let's be honest, go
the goat of eating.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
Don't leave your fingers out because you might try to
swallow one.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Dude.

Speaker 8 (42:45):
To watch this guy work, to see him eat, I
guess because it's really only I've only ever watched him
eat hot Dogsunless. It's like a viral thing where he's
eating like a Linguini or something because he's like mostly
known because the hot dog was the most famous, right,
for sure, God, and then he just took over because
for a while, Kobe Yashi was the guy, right, and

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then all of a sudden, Joey Chestnut's like, I live here.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
Now, this is my house, and then has just dominated.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
If it comes to competitive eating, Joey Chestnut's the guy
you think.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
About, right, And it's not just hot dogs. I think
he eats anything, any type of competition. He's in the
eating competition and just an absolute legend. I can't wait
to hear what he does to prepare for these things,
or or what he eats just to get ready for
these things. How do you eat that much food?

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (43:34):
Yeah, like yes, all those questions.

Speaker 8 (43:36):
And here's the cool thing is that Matt and I
have been so excited about this interview.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
His flight was delayed coming in.

Speaker 8 (43:42):
We stayed because we wanted to talk to Joey chest NUTT.
I don't know if we just stayed for many people,
but Joey CHESTNUTT. We wanted it, and he's walking up
now here. He is the greatest eater of all time,
Joey Chestnut. Joey, we have had a few players on
that We're like, yeah, to go to this to go
to that. But you are the greatest one of the
greatest athletes.

Speaker 9 (44:03):
I don't know about the greatest athlete.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
You gotta have hand leads of all time.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
Like what you are doing with your body, like the
physicalness of it. Like what's a training regimen look like?
And is there a specific time you train and don't train?

Speaker 9 (44:16):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (44:16):
Yeah, and so winter winter, I take a break. I
try to get my body kind of back to normal.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (44:21):
But yeah, so when I'm in when I'm in training mode,
it's like full on practice once a week.

Speaker 8 (44:25):
What does that mean though? What's practice meaning? It's like
a game? Just eat as much you can.

Speaker 11 (44:29):
Oh dude, it's ah yeah, it's full on just stimulated contests.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (44:34):
Before every practice, there's a cleanse. After every practice, there's
a recovery period. And then during that recovery period, I'm
making sure my jaws and throat.

Speaker 9 (44:42):
And there's exercises for all that, all that stuff.

Speaker 11 (44:44):
And uh yeah, I put it in, put in some
serious work.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
So from a recovery standpoint, does that just mean you
need to be near a toilet or like, how I
mean that's a lot of food.

Speaker 9 (44:55):
Yeah, the immediate recovery. Yeah, there's a.

Speaker 11 (44:58):
I'll I'm sleeping and drinking water and then I wake
up and I got some runs baby, yeah, and it's
uh and it's down. It takes about three days to
get close to my normal weight. And that's if I'm
eating super clean. I have to be on like no
starches and no sugar, otherwise the weight will stay on me.
And that's if I'm just like, if I'm even really clean,
I can usually get back in three, three or four

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days to normal weight.

Speaker 9 (45:20):
And that's what you're eating a ton of hot dogs.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
I'm curious about the process.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
So I with with Matt played Football's whole life at
the highest level has been so in football that you
look at football differently. With me either doing stand up
or radio, I look at it differently than someone who's
just enjoying it from from afar food food.

Speaker 11 (45:39):
I so yeah, they're all kind of different, like like, for.

Speaker 9 (45:44):
I still love to eat.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
Can you just enjoy a meal? Can you go and
just freaking it's.

Speaker 11 (45:47):
The best thing in life. Okay, Like my fiance, she
seves me, look at my phone, I'm not looking at girls.
I'm looking at food. Like it's like food porn is
like it's real and there's a I love food pretty
much more than anything, and I uh, I love competition,
so so I got super lucky.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
So if you were to eat a hot dog away
from a competition, would you actually what would you put
on that hot dog?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Like?

Speaker 5 (46:10):
What type of condiments? What's your go to? If you
were just.

Speaker 11 (46:12):
Eating, Like I'm all over the plate, but my go
tos raw onions and mustard and Delli mustard.

Speaker 9 (46:17):
Those two like the.

Speaker 11 (46:19):
Raw onions, and neither of them have any more calories,
so I never feel guilty about adding those on. Sometimes
if I'm adding bacon or cheese, I love a good
chili cheese dog. Oh those are great, but it's you know,
if I'm eating five ten sometimes more, it adds up
and I start putting on weight. Then it affects my contests.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
Where did you enter your very first eating contests?

Speaker 9 (46:42):
Almost twenty years ago?

Speaker 11 (46:43):
It was, uh, you know, my friends in college signed
me up my first contest in two thousand and five.
It was a lobster eating contest at a at a casino.

Speaker 8 (46:51):
And they signed you up, So then you were just
doing for fun before, Like why didn't I eat?

Speaker 11 (46:54):
Everybody knew I could, everybody can knew I could eat,
and it was something I was like, all right, I'm
a little bit ashamed of, like, don't be the first
one to finish, and like when I'm in the dorms,
don't grin, don't don't get like three plates and people
like knew about it, and I was like all right,
I tried to be normal and then my friend signed
me up the one contest and it's just.

Speaker 9 (47:11):
Like, uh dude, I loved it. It was like I
don't I don't have to hold back.

Speaker 6 (47:14):
Did you win?

Speaker 9 (47:15):
You're tied for third.

Speaker 11 (47:17):
I had never eaten lobster before, so it was like
I was grabbing the meat out of the tail and
going into the guts.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
That would be a tough one to have a competition with.
Oh it was.

Speaker 9 (47:25):
It was terrible and uh yeah, but I was hoped
after that.

Speaker 11 (47:29):
Two weeks later, I wanted deeparagus eating contest and uh
what deep fried asparagus got?

Speaker 6 (47:35):
Man? They really dial into specifics. Huh. They're fried to spirit,
not just asparagus.

Speaker 11 (47:40):
It was out in like the valley in California, stocked in.
It was it was, uh dude, the big, big aestparagus festival.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
They have a asparagus festival.

Speaker 11 (47:48):
Yeah, it was crazy, like the asparagus ice cream and
oh some gnarly stuff.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
What's the most exotic food eating contests you've been a
part of?

Speaker 9 (47:56):
Oh man, there there was. I did cowbray tacos one time.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
Please talk more about that.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Yeah, it was. It was all right, so that comes
up with that contest.

Speaker 11 (48:04):
It was like I be pub crawl and they were like, oh,
we'll give you back stage passes. There's gonna be some
rock bands there, and uh.

Speaker 9 (48:10):
I was like all right, I'll do it.

Speaker 11 (48:11):
And they gave me the recipe for the cow brains
and like that's why I cooked them up at home,
like I do everything I practice, And then they cooked
him completely different. They were like boiled and they were
kind of purple and veiny, and like it was almost
like a stand by me contest where like most like
like half the people got sick. Somebody barfed on the
MC and I was just watching the guy next to

(48:32):
me making sure I was one ahead of him.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
And it's just enough to win.

Speaker 8 (48:36):
Whenever the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest kind of came
into the pop culture world, like you were you were
in it when ESPN started. But do you get even
more jacked, Like go back to your first TV appearance,
Like I would think I would be so jacked, I'd
probably choke even though I'm good, Like I'm probably going

(48:56):
a little harder because I'm a little my heart rates
a little higher.

Speaker 11 (48:59):
It's uh, yeah, I remember the first time I did
the Fourth of July. It was I got ended up
getting third, and it was just it was crazy eating
in front of that many people. The energy, and it's,
uh yeah, it's wild, and like, yeah, when you say
you get so jacked, you you might choke your My
first bite really is the hardest pie, and then the

(49:20):
last bite of is contest is my second hardest pie.
But the first bite, getting that getting calmly and just
getting everything to work right and finding my rhythm.

Speaker 9 (49:28):
It's it's the hardest and most important.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
So when you crush a show like Man Versus Food,
you know, when they go on and they've got to
eat a crazy amount, would you crush that show?

Speaker 9 (49:37):
Almost every challenge I could.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
Get any challenge, it's uh.

Speaker 11 (49:41):
There are a lot of guys who'd like to do
those restaurant challenges, but it's it's weird, you're here restaurant.
Everybody's eating normal and you're like the only one eating
like an animal.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
It's uh.

Speaker 11 (49:50):
It's a completely different atmosphere. And I love the contest.

Speaker 9 (49:52):
I love shoulders shoulder with these dudes.

Speaker 11 (49:55):
Who, Uh, everybody's on stage and they don't want to lose,
and you're beating people who don't want to lose.

Speaker 9 (49:59):
It's uh.

Speaker 11 (50:00):
And then you got the crowd. I'm all about the contest.
The restaurant people are awesome, but I'm about the contests.

Speaker 8 (50:07):
Are there any techniques or styles that you have invented
that you're seeing other competitive eaters now.

Speaker 9 (50:13):
Use everything from training?

Speaker 11 (50:15):
Like I so I started using this exercise ball for
my jaws, and the guys who sell it they called
jaws are size so people can sculpt their face, but
really it helps your jaws actually get bigger and stronger.
And so all the eaters are using that as far
as during during the contest. Just like a lot of
people used to sit down during contests, and I was like, no,

(50:38):
the food's not gonna settle. If you're sitting down, you're
gonna it's like You're like, there's no way it's gonna
get deep. So you have to practice standing up and
get stretching out your torso and pushing the food down.

Speaker 7 (50:47):
So when did you figure out your regimen for training?

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Was that just trial and error and over time?

Speaker 7 (50:53):
Was there somebody that impacted you or somebody that you said,
I like the way this person does it, and I'm
going to try to implement that into my training.

Speaker 11 (51:00):
Lots of trial and air, a lot of trial. It's
and I was lucky I when I still in college.
So I talked to a nutrition professor, uh and so
me and me and heard would be throughout like throughout
some ideas how to how to make sure that my
body can just take in more food. And I think
the cleansing beforehand was one of the biggest, like break bruise,
making sure I'm going in absolutely empty, and that makes

(51:22):
it easier.

Speaker 9 (51:23):
Your body like knows.

Speaker 11 (51:23):
What's coming and it's gonna it's gonna kind of process
it a little bit easier.

Speaker 8 (51:27):
Final question, Some quarterbacks are not cold weather quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
Some quarterbacks are doing quarterbacks. What food are you not?

Speaker 8 (51:35):
What's your weakest food and what is it that the
food that you thrive when it comes to eating.

Speaker 9 (51:41):
Oh my god, hot dogs are the most important by far.
I thrive it. No the most important. Yeah, no, no, it's awesome.

Speaker 11 (51:49):
Uh things, you know, I'm actually on a really weird
losing streak with chicken wings. I haven't wont a chicken
wing contest and like I want to say five years
and and there's the and that's an important contest because I, uh, yeah,
I used to hold records and so I uh I,
but yeah, I don't know if it's a dry spell
because I like, I like partying in Buffalo the night

(52:10):
before the contest, or you weren't cleansed or or or
or Miami. The last contest has always been Miami or Buffalo.
So I need to just really buckle down because there's
a wing contest in March, and I really want to
win that one.

Speaker 9 (52:24):
It's uh, I need to break that losing straight.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
But Joey appreciates the time, and it's awesome to meet
you in person.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Legend.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
Yeah, athletes, it's like's pretty cool, it's pretty cool. But
like they said, Joey's more like.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Let's freaking go. That's awesome.

Speaker 8 (52:36):
So it's super cool. Good luck, man. I hope you
have a great rest of the weekend here.

Speaker 9 (52:40):
Thank you, guys, get some fun.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
Thank you, be safe.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
What a day. Now, you've actually.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Been in a super Bowl, so you don't have to
You're gonna go home watch it from home.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
I'm gonna go home and watch it. That's I'm gonna
be there with my family, you know what I mean.
It's awesome. It's one of those things that super Bowl
is kind of like a holiday and people go home
and do it.

Speaker 8 (53:01):
I would probably do that, but like, my boys haven't
been yet, so you gotta take the boys.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
I know, I can appreciate that. Like if I had
a bunch of my boys here and they all wanted
to experience with my brothers or something hadn't been.

Speaker 8 (53:12):
So we're gonna stay. Now, are you going to try
to do anything New Orleans tonight?

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Food wise? If had some time to think about it.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
Now, you're gonna purposefully get something really hot that gives.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
You the runs.

Speaker 7 (53:22):
Yeah, I'm gonna try to go get that sandwich and
just so if I can blow the sandwich or I
get on my Southwest flight tomorrow, you don't want I
don't want that kind of smoke.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Seriously, I would like to go get some authentic.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
Oh, we're going to the commissioners think to that.

Speaker 7 (53:37):
Oh, that's right. Okay, well maybe they'll have some there.
You think they'll serve anything there.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
So I'm told.

Speaker 8 (53:43):
And by the way, I've never been to the Commissioner's
what's the official name of it is the Commissioner's Dinner Commissioners.

Speaker 7 (53:49):
I'm gonna go with that. Yeah, I've never been inviting
a jack And then I, like I said, I meet you.
That's dude, this first time. I played for a long time,
been to a few Super Bowls, never.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Been invited this.

Speaker 8 (53:59):
I think someone sold you a Billy Goods about me.
But did you bring a jacket like a sports code?

Speaker 7 (54:03):
Oh yeah, okay, I brought a suit. I'm gonna be suited, booted,
ready to go. I mean, I'm pretty fired up about this.
Think's a great experience than you for sure.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Bleep me.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
We can't call them T shirts anymore, so we'll say
Hawaiian Hawaiian shirt as show opener. And then final time
before the game, who wins?

Speaker 7 (54:22):
I'm going with the Chiefs. It's it's hard to go
against the Chiefs. I mean, I do think the Eagles
our team. If anybody can dethrone them, this, this Eagles
team is legit on both sides of the ball. And
they're playing really good football right now. But until anybody
does it, I'm going with the chiefs man. They might
said history, it's gonna be an incredible game.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
Who wins MVP?

Speaker 7 (54:47):
Okay, for me, it's gonna be Saquon Barkley or Patrick Mahomes.
As usual, it's usually the guys that carry the ball
or have the biggest game. And you always have that
offshoot where you've got a wide receiver that steps up,
makes a big play in the game, has eight catches
for one hundred and ten, So there's that possibility, but
there's always somebody thrown it. But I do think Saquon
Barkley is going to be the focal point of this
offense for for the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
How about you offense?

Speaker 6 (55:12):
I'm trying to think of a story. Well, so I
was trying to Jane Johnson of how it wouldn't be Tony.
I'm going to kind of go.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
With Joe Tooney MVP first interior lineman to ever get.

Speaker 8 (55:25):
Like, how would a Kelsey or a Xavier Worthy? Like
how could they win it without Mahomes actually winning it?

Speaker 6 (55:34):
Meaning worthy?

Speaker 8 (55:35):
But like three catches, one thirty and two touchdowns, right,
like him having to actually break, he would have to
some damage himself a day, or.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
It's one of those catch and runs where he makes
an extraordinary run, right returns, somebody returns, you know, it
does something out of the ordinary, Like Julian Edelman won
the MVP that won Super Bowl because of that catch,
the circus catch at ricochet boom boom. He comes up
biggest play in the game. So I think it's one
of those moments where they step up in the biggest
moment and it's really helps dictate.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
The outcome of the game.

Speaker 8 (56:08):
Yeah, it'll need to be, but I'm still going with Tony,
so yeah, I'm just say yeah, yeah, I think that's
a great pick.

Speaker 9 (56:12):
Dude.

Speaker 8 (56:12):
If he hits and I say this, save this and
put it in light, that would be take it.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Put in the Hall of Fame. This clip of me predicting.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
You had five pancakes and did not give up a sack.

Speaker 6 (56:22):
That's it from New Orleans.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
Everybody that came on the show over the last couple
of days, we really appreciate your stopping by because there's
a lot to do. We're super honor that people would
come by and talk to Matt and myself and again,
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(56:45):
thank you so much and looking to have a great
time at the game.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Matt.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
Good to see you in your black La hat that
has so much swag that.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Waies.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
You don't want to buy this?

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
What what is it?

Speaker 6 (56:56):
It is a pink Selene Selene.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
With the Branselene yes and my wife loves it.

Speaker 6 (57:01):
That's how I know. I thought I'm truth. I thought
it was a Selene Deon brand the first time, because yes.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
That's what I would have gone with me. It's the
only Selene I really know exactly.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
And my wife's like, no, it is dad, So my
wife any of like the really swag clothes I have,
or my boat take a bag because I.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
Do carry a purse.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Hey are strong?

Speaker 8 (57:21):
My boat take a bag is so legit, so shout
out my wife. But you probably shouldn't wear this unless
you want this one specifically.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
Yeah, you know, I really like that. I just don't
know if I could pull it.

Speaker 6 (57:31):
I'll leave it. My will to you all right.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
Thank you guys. Thanks to read Arberry, Thanks to Mike
view who Johnny, I hope and I'll run an audio production.
Thanks to kick Off Kevin. It's Matt. I'm Bobby. We've
had lots to say bye, Everybody.

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