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Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I
am in my tuxedo hoodie. Let's talk about the Oscars
last night. Biggest surprise was that a Nora swept. Didn't
really see that coming. I didn't feel confident in one
movie to dominate. I thought it was going to be
more scattered all over the place. If I had to
pick a heavy hitter going into the night, I thought
it was going to be The Brutalist. But the way
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the Academy voted, I feel was a little bit more
progressive this year. Sometimes they just go with the movie
like The Brutalist because of what the movie stands for
and all those things that they look for in the movie.
I just thought that the momentum that Anra had from
the fans wasn't going to carry over into the voting.
I was wrong. It dominated. The other surprising thing to
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me is I did not realize Sean Baker, the director
of Anora, was that much of a charismatic person. And
I think it's because a lot of his movies are
so sad and they have a very gloomy demeanor. It's
hard to see him up there except the Wars being
so joyful and I was like, oh man, I started
rooting for him, Like to see him win for Best
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Director from Quentin Tarantino, one of the best directors of
all time. I have to imagine that was an awesome
moment for him, for anybody, like seeing Mikey Madison after
taking a picture with a glass of champagne and her oscar.
That is such a cool feeling. So I don't have
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any connection to these people, but I think that's why
I love the Oscars, just because it's so hard to
win an Oscar out of all the award shows. Winning
an Oscar is like winning the MVP in the super Bowl,
Like a lot of people have Super Bowl rings, but
to get that MVP that's given out once a year
or so, to win the Oscar for Best Actor or
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Best Actress that is given out to one person. I
was happy for everybody involved in Anora. But let's talk
about my predictions. How well I did. I was kind
of scattered all over the place. Hour one. I went perfect,
but I put so much of my eggs in the
brutalist basket because that's how I thought the Academy was
going to vote. Initially, I had the substance winning for
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Best Picture, Honora took it home. It won five of
its six categories dominant, and I think for me, I
wanted The Substance to win so bad. I still love
that movie. I had a tier of movies in this
voting period that I really enjoyed, the Brutalist, and I
got behind that one more because that's how I thought
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the Academy would vote. I love The Substance. The two
movies I feel from the category of Best Pictures that
are going to go on and have a big wife,
that are people are going to actually come back to,
and some might even call it their favorite movies. It's
going to be The Substance and Anora. Now, the Substance
had a lot just against it is because the Academy
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just doesn't vote for horror movies. So just for it
to get nominated, it was an honor in itself, really
hard for it to win, and I think at the
end of the day that is what held it back
from winning. So justice for horror movies, Justice for Demi Moore.
That is when I got wrong. Best Actor. I said
there was no contest there. It was going to be
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Adrian and Brody. If you look at everybody else here,
they all did great performances. Now they all did good performances.
He did a great performance. I feel as a whole
the best actor in a leading role was pretty weak
this year. There wasn't one person who totally dominated a
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role aside from Adrian and Brody that I thought deserved it.
Even the clips they played a Timothy Shalomey as Bob
Dylan throughout the show that made me enjoy that character less.
When I watched the movie, I thought he did a
pretty good job. I said, there were moments where you
could tell it was Timothy Schallomag and that bled through
a lot and kind of broke the illusion that became
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Bob Dylan. But the clips they played, I was like,
oh man, could they have not picked better clips? Isolated?
He didn't seem as strong in that performance. But I
love how passionate he was about that and stressing that
he spent five years of his life doing that, so
he'll get there again. I think a biopick. You don't
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want to win it with a biopick. You want to
win it with just like your your performance, your own
interpretation of a character. He's gonna get there someday. Not
here went to Adrian Brodie. I said that was easy.
Best Actress. Ah, Again, my heart wanted the substance to
win more. I wanted Demi Moore to have that moment.
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She got it at the Golden Globes. But I could
just imagine her getting up there accepting that award after
a career of not winning any awards, being told she
was just a popcorn actress, which she still got her bag,
but still to have an award to really put a
stamp on your career. I wanted that for but for
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Mikey Madison, being as young as she is, not even
having that many leading roles, for this to be her
Oscar win her first for Best Actress. That's amazing and
you can't help but root for her. You can't really
help but root for everybody behind the Nora. So wasn't
my pick, but I was really felt good about her winning.
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As opposed to Best Actor. The Best Actress category was stacked.
Everybody had amazing performances in that category. That was tough.
I wish they did. I know no award shows do this,
but if I could see some numbers, see the tallies
of how many votes that one actor had over the other,
I would like to see how close that was, much
like to do for the President show us the percentages.
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And I know a lot of people were complaining about
how long the speeches were. Adrian Brodie's was very long.
He had the world's record for the longest award show
speech at the Oscar. Five and a half minutes. Is
what I believe I would say, if they want to
move the show along, if they want to make this
a little bit more like sport, to make the entire
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show move a little bit faster. Because shows started an
hour earlier than it usually did, still went pretty long.
Was about started here Central time at six, didn't endntill
about nine forty five. That's a long show. If they
really want to move it along, what if they put
a shot clock up there. What if they put a
play clock where once you get up there, the first
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word you say that clock starts, you get forty five
seconds for I say, anybody in a technical award, which
no disrespect to them, it is cool to see those
people actually be celebrated, the people who are behind the
scenes so much get a chance to go up there
and accept their awards. But also you have to move
things along. You have to make the show a little
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bit more entertaining. You also have to make the show quicker,
like six to nine would have been great, but they
kept going and going. Whenever it got to about that
last hour, I'm like, there's no way they're gonna get
all these awards in. Get the person up there. Technical
awards you get forty five seconds. The big awards at
the end of the night. I would say, the Big
five you get a minute and a half. First word
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you say, that clock starts, and then if you don't
get it in a time, you get a penalty. If
you get a penalty, if your movie keeps getting penalties,
then whoever is behind you in votes, they suddenly get
a shot, and if they can get up there, get
their speech out faster than you can get it in
before that plate clock expires, they win the Oscar. I
know this will take away from the artistry of the Oscars,
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but it would make the show more entertaining. It would
get people up there and get through their speeches quicker.
But just my idea to make it a little bit
more entertaining, but take away from the value of the art.
But I was glad to see Mikey win four Best
Actor in a Supporting Role. I got that one right.
Karen Kolkin, he was the standout here. To me, I
believe he is now halfway to an egot. I loved
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his speech. He is very kere and holkan in all
of his speeches, much like his character in The Real Pain.
I feel like he is that a little bit off camera,
but him telling his wife and not bringing it up
until that moment, Like hey said, if I won an Oscar,
we could have another kid. So hopefully they have that
fourst kid if they're up for it. Best Actress in
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a Supporting Role, I got that one. Rise always Alnana.
I feel this category was probably the easiest to pick
just because the only person who came close to Zoe.
I don't think anybody came close there. No, Yeah, that
one was really easy. That was her first time being nominated.
She was very emotional in her speech to the point
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that I realized, Oh, I can tell why she is
an actor because she got up there and poured her
soul out. Went pretty hard on that. That was pretty
much Amelia Perez's only win. They also won for song,
but for being nominated the most only taken home a
couple of awards during the big shit. That's what I said. Man,
just because you get the most nominations doesn't mean you're
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gonna get up there and dominate. You're just probably of
campaign the most, which I think that movie was all
campaign and not a great campaign because you have your
main person at the award show and it feels kind
of awkward. But I feel of all the movies nominated
for Best Picture, that is one that's just gonna kinda
be forgotten about down the line, So it just feels
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like a campaign run for that one. For Best Director,
I had Corey le Farjah for The Substance, got that
one wrong again. I was really just pulling for the
Substance in all these categories. But it went to Sean
Baker for a norm. He got up there, accepted that
award from Quentin Tarantino. Huge for him to see him
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win his first Oscar of the night and then keep
going up there time and time again all the way
leading up to a Best Picture. I imagine he partied
pretty hard last night because he is a really innovative director.
He has made movies for I believe they made a
Nora for eight million dollars, So that kind of shows
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you that just have that vision, you have that passion
for filmmaking, you can go on to win an Oscar.
Like giving me some inspiration there. I think that is
what inspired me the most of how passionate he was
about independent filmmaking. Best Cinematography. I got that one wrong.
I thought no Saratu would win for that. I thought
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they would win something, but I think they went on
empty handed the Brutalist one for that, and I thought
the cinematography and the Brutalist was good, but I guess
it was those shots, like the upside down Statue of
Liberty shot, the one shot that was used a lot
in the promotional material with Adrian Brody and the sparks
and him looking into it. That was a great image.
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The craziest thing about that scene that wasn't even like
a big part of the movie. It was kind of
just this thing of him passing by very early on
in the film, and that was like, they're one shot,
an amazing shot. I honestly think that shot and the
Statue of Liberty shot one. I'm that Oscar for Best
International Film. I thought Amelia Perez would get this, just
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because I knew they were nominated for a lot, and
I didn't think they were gonna win too many awards.
They weren't gonna win the big ones. I thought this
would be the one. They were like, Okay, we'll give
them this award. We won't give them anything else. I'm
still here one and it should have won. That movie
was so powerful. I'm still thinking about that movie for
a minute after it won International Film. I thought it
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had the potential to win for Best Picture. If you
have not seen it and you're hesitant about international movies,
which I am glad that they're now called international films
and not just foreign language films, because when you think
about it, our films to any other country would be
a quote unquote foreign language film, which we don't really
label our movies that when we ship them out, Hey,
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here's some superhero movies. Here, all the Marvel movies, here's
the fast and inferior movies. To you, their foreign language films.
I mean a lot of the times they translate them
into other languages. But I like international film. That feels
a little bit less, Like I could convince somebody who
was against watching movies with subtitles a chance to watch
a movie that you probably would not have watched otherwise.
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But I'm still here, based on a true story takes
place in Brazil. I really enjoyed that movie. If there's
one movie you miss from the Best Picture category, definitely
check that one out. Best Animated Feature, got that one right,
Flow wild At That movie is an hour and a
half and no words are spoken. It's all about the
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journey of a cat, kind of like Homeward Bound, but
animated in a really beautiful way. Although when you put
it up next to the Wild Robot, that animation looks
really similar. But the filmmakers behind that were really cool.
They were really excited to win that the first one
for their country. That is a tough category because the
other two anime movies that feel like had a shot
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Wild Robot in Inside Out too. I almost feel their
financial success at the box office holds them back a
little bit because Wild Robot was really good. Inside Out
two is really good, and I almost feel like those
movies that have the box office success get nominated just
as like Here You Go. But good for Flow Best
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Original Song. I mentioned that when earlier Amelia Perez did
win for that, I didn't want that song to win
a musical with all bad songs, and that one wins.
I was hoping Sing Sing would win for something last night,
but they did not win. There got that one wrong.
Best Original Score. I was surprised Conclave didn't win. The
score in Conclave drove that movie. Out of all the
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movies nominated Conclave, Amelia Perez, The Brutalist, The Wild Robot,
and Wicked, it was the Conclave score that stuck out
to me. That menacing, just driving music that made that
movie at times feel like, ah, a movie. You took
a movie just about people voting on things and putting
pieces of paper and voting on who's gonna be the Pope.
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It was that music, that score that made everything seem
more impactful and made it seem like, oh, something serious
is happening here, when it was just a bunch of
dudes voting. But that went to the Brutalist. Thinking back
on that score, I mean I was more infatuated with
the cinematography than the score. Best Makeup I got that
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one right, the substance. How could you not give it
to the substance for Best Makeup? That was what that
movie just built up to all throughout, just man, not
even just the accomplishment of the makeup used, but also
the actors to have to go through that. I'm glad
they didn't go home empty handed. I guess some of
these were a little bit easier to guess. But Best
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Costume Design got that right too with Wicked. Best Visual Effects,
I got that one right with Dune Part two. Best
Adapted Screenplay. I wanted single thing to win something, so
it got that one wrong. It went to Conclave Best
Original Screenplay. Man. I wanted Jesse Eisenberg to win. I
saw him sitting there behind Kiaren Colkin. I feel like
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this whole award show run. He's just been like, I
want to win. I put a lot of my heart
and soul into writing this movie. I just wanted that
for him. That whole movie was all in the writing.
The performance is too, but I just feel like that
was the heart and soul in this movie. And I
could almost see the disappointment in his face when he
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didn't win, so I felt bad for him there. I
wanted him to win so bad, but it went to Anora.
Diane Warren continued her streak of not winning an Oscar
sixteen consecutive losses as another big surprise of the night. Overall,
I thought the award show was pretty subpar, and I
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love the Oscars, Like, there was never any momentum aside
from the very first opening number with Ariana Grande Cynthia
Revo doing the Wicked Songs, Like that was the most like, Okay,
we're here, this show is gonna be awesome. I thought
Conan was all right, Like, if I had to give
Conan a score, I would probably overall give him a
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three out of five. He had some good jokes here
in there, but I feel like some of the bits,
like a whole song about him not wasting time, I
didn't think that was funny. His best bit came from
his interaction with Adam Sandler in the crowd. And I
like Conan. I think he's one of the funniest people,
especially on his podcast, but I almost feel like he
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wasn't right for that job, Like it's almost a little
bit too big for him. Not that he hasn't handled
stuff like that before. I mean, he had a freaking
late night talk show. He is a larger than life personality.
I just feel it's hard to look good while hosting
an award show, so I kind of wanted them to
switch it up a little bit. But I felt like
everything he did was a little bit safe. It was
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kind of exactly what I thought it was going to be.
I did like the Nick Offerman voiceover. They had a
little bit together. I thought that was good. Overall, his
opening monologue was just very long, a lot of decent
jokes in there. I think his better jokes came later
in the night, but overall, I just didn't think it
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made the show a whole lot more fun. So overall
the show was all right. It's just hard when you
don't have musical performances in an award show. Like if
I was behind that show, I would just do a
celebration of music and movies and not just your traditional
movies that you would expect. There was a moment I
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was like, you know, what, would it be great here
a little Shrek number? Because they started talking about other
impactful movies. You have people from historic movies coming out,
like why not honor movies like Shrek? Like you have
somebody come and cover Smash Mouth, have somebody come out
and cover Counting Crows. If you're not going to get
people in with movies that a lot of people have watched,
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because I think if you look at the category here,
a lot of people haven't seen these movies. General public
has not seen the substance, probably hasn't even heard of it.
You have to bring in movies that people do know
of them, Shrek. I just announced that it's getting Shrek five.
Why not throw a tribute to Shrek in there, attribute
to Forrest Gum, music from other important movies, not just
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to the Oscars, but to pop culture. I think that
would have a little bit more weight. Get some people in,
bring some artists in that people care about, bring in
some older legacy acts to do songs from old movies
like I think that would be great. And unfortunately that
would mean you'd have to take out some of the categories,
which I think we're kind of at that point. And
I love all these categories. I love seeing these people
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being celebrated that don't normally get celebrated. But I also
realize it is a business. It is an award show,
and if you're not getting people to watch it, then
you don't have a product here. So again we start
the play clock. If you can't get it in time,
next movie up, get the chance to get it in time.
They win the Oscar, and then we just got to
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make the stuff in between a little bit better because
I can't think you can rely because I don't think
you can rely on the comedy anymore. If you have Conan,
one of the funniest people in America, not really able
to make the show much funnier because the whole format
of an award show is so old, dated and stale.
You got to bring in more musical acts. So that
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is my Oscar recap. Thank you for listening, thank you
for watching, and until next time, go out and watch
good movies and I will talk to you there