July 14, 2024 • 38 mins
In this weekly series, we share highlight clips from the past week of some of the podcasts on The Nashville Podcast Network- In The Vet's Office with Dr. Josie (NEW!!), The BobbyCast, 4 Things with Amy Brown, Sore Losers and Get Real with Caroline Hobby. You can listen to new episodes weekly wherever you get your podcasts!
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-The BobbyCast- @BobbyCast
-In The Vet's Office- @DrJosieVet
-4 Things- @RadioAmy
-Sore Losers- @SoreLosersPodcast
-Get Real with Caroline Hobby- @GetRealCarolineHobby
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey guys.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sunday Sampler time on the Sore Losers. They talk about
stories from their vacation. We'll get to that. On the
Bobby Cast, I talked with the Legend Americana and Texas
Legend Robert Earl Keene. He opened up about why he
decided to retire from the road after forty one years
of touring. But we have a new podcast on the network.
It's so good. It's called In the Vets Office with
Doctor Josie. Abby Smyers. She is Dan Smyers, his wife
(00:32):
from Dan and Jay. They talked about their dog and
how their dog was sick. So they took the dog
to the vet. The vet was like, no, dog's fine,
and so I took the dog to another vet, which
was doctor Josie. Doctor Josie was like, no, the dog
guess cancer and they're going through chemo. They talk about
animals and Dan and Shay and they talk about rescue.
It's a really great episode. Here's a clip of In
(00:53):
the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Help.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Welcome to in the Vets Office, Abby Smiers. Hi, I'm
so excited to have you here.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You're welcome Anne today.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
As everyone knows perfect, she sat right on cue. This
podcast is biod and she brought with her the lovely Macaroni.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
This is Macaroni. She's so good. Yes, yes, Macaroni. We
call her mac. She has the best ear. She's perfect
in every way. Yeah, one ear, crazy straight up.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
One year down. You actually have attached to it her
little years. I love that.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
My friend Andrew drew it for me and then I
got it tattooed because I love.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Her ears so much. It's so cute. So we have
a lot of ground to cover today. Before we dive in,
I have to tell one of my favorite stories about you.
Abby and I really like to walk our dogs together.
And I think it was last summer, whatever, last year
sometime you text me about twenty minutes before we're supposed
to go on our walk and you're like, I'm so sorry,
I'm not gonna be able to come over.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Here's why.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And you send me a picture and it's this tiny
newborn baby deer, the.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Cutest thing that's ever existed. It was so cute, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So cute, and I'm like, whatever you do, do not
come on this walk.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You must stand vigil safe over this deer.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It did not need any saving, and I learned, Yeah,
but I thought I needed saving.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
But you stayed in your house all day, yeah, watching
this baby deer.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yes, because I was so concerned something was gonna happen
to it. And it's the cutest thing you've ever seen. Yeah,
I also am so I love deer. I think they're
just really magical.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And Abby has a water bowl out you guys in
her front yard for deer.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We're in a drought.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We're in a drought. We're in a drought.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How are they gonna find?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And honestly, the last night, one of the last times
I was over your ring doorbell camera, your outdoor camera
picked up a deer drinking out of the water bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You were the first person to ever see them because
they never use it. They just like look at it
and consider drinking it and never do. And then finally
my hard work paid off.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I was kind of like laughing at you in my head.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm like, yeah, all right, like a deer's gonna drink
out of this bowl and then sure enough it did.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay, anyways, back to the baby deer, and you're like,
what do I do? I'm like, I don't know. They
don't cheach us this in bet school.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm recognizing that we're going to be talking about animals
and I'm like automatically using this like way higher voice.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
And when I'm talking to animals and it's I love it.
So you called a wildlife person.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I did because I had never been around a baby deer.
I love them, but I and it was I don't know.
It was just in a very strange spot where our
house was situated. There wasn't anywhere for the mom to
really go, so I didn't know why I would have
left the baby there. It was a very weird spot
to leave it, and so I thought it was abandoned.
But lo and behold called a wonderful wild deer wildlife rehab.
(03:39):
Her name is Deborah. It lest you first, I have
her contact now in my phone and it has her birthday,
so I always know when her birthday is too.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I never talked to her again, but I know when
her birthday is and.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It says like what age too, that's amazing, But love
her and she told me so. Now that everyone knows
this about baby deer, if they are laying still, which
this one was completely silent and with their head down.
They're doing exactly by nature what they were born to do.
So when they're born, they are born odorless and silent,
and mom is obviously not so she leaves to go feed,
(04:14):
and they are protected because predators cannot find them. I mean,
my dogs had no idea that it was there. The
whole day I did.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, no, of course, I've never set a camera.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I ustar Ferbo camera and moved it from the dog's
room and so I could like watch them outside.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I got an update like every forty five minutes. It
was amazing and it was so cute, and so then
later that evening you're happy you let your dogs out,
is when it goes down. You let your dogs out
into the front yard.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yep, do you use the restroom. They had no idea
the deer was there. The deer was on the sideyard.
No big deal. I have been watching this thing all
day like my own child.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And it's mother, Yeah, I was its mother. And then
and then you found out that it had a clearly.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Do not trust me.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yes, Mom came flying out of nowhere, truly out of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Jumps yours do jumps your massive fence, You guys, this
is caught on her camera her front house, like security footage.
You're out there and then all of a sudden you
can see Dan come running outside.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, I was in the living room and I could
hear him yelling no, no, no, and I thought the
dogs are going after something, because they've been known to
chase a bunny or two. And he I can just
hear him screaming. I look out the window and I
see the mom in the front yard chasing the dogs.
He's chasing the deer. And it's I mean, it's the funniest.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
It was like he kind of already looks like Vince
Palm and he's a Steelers fan. He was like going left,
fake and right. The deer's like juking him. It's like
steps on ghosts. At one point, deer steped on ghosts.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
So then I of course called Josie and because you're
gonna be okay under different but yeah, and so, but
the funniest thing is, I'm like, what was your plan?
And that's what everyone wanted to know when they saw
the video, like were you going after the dogs? Are
you going after the deer? He's just like one or
the other, because he at one point dives takes a.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Fall, he took a hot mess, took one for the team,
and I just want to say he won dog Dad
of the Century for me. It was amazing. I'm gonna
have to post this video so everyone can see.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But also I'm like, how rude that I protected.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Your child all day and then you're trying to tack
my own. I know all that to say, if you
ever find a baby deer and just leave it alone,
leave it alone, get alone, go about your wife, your
dogs inside.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And keep your dogs inside.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Mac so Abby and I first met because she's super
duper involved here in the dog rescue community. How did
you get involved? Like, have you always been involved in
dog rescue? How did that come to be?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So it's been ten years almost exactly. I was working
at Warner Music Nashville, which is right down the road
from us, and someone was cooing in the hallway and
I was like, what's out there? And there was this
puppy and my coworker, Rebecca was fostering this little puppy
named Kathy, Sweet Kathy. And I don't know what it
(07:13):
was about this dog. I just had. I guess had
rescue dogs growing up. My dad rescued a couple dogs,
but I just wasn't super well versed in the rescue world,
and my mom had had little be Shawn's. I had
a lab at the time that I got from a breeder,
and I just didn't really know anything. But this fairal
brown dog just stole my heart. And I Textan was like,
(07:36):
should we get this dog? He was like, bring her home,
and so brought her home that day and as a foster,
and two days later we texted the organization and said
we were going to keep her. But it was actually
the very first ever Pimp and Joy Week that the
Bobby Bones Show has done with Amy and honoring her mom,
and so it was like the very first one ever.
(07:58):
There were signs all Overshville about Pimp and Joy and
so we when we adopted this dog, I was like,
I think we need to name her Joy. We did
this amazing thing. We rescued a dog, and so that
is Joy and Joy, I always say, is just the
reason that I am who I am and what I do,
because from there I got involved with the rescue that
(08:20):
she was at Proverbs twelve ten Animal Rescue here locally,
they're a wonderful organization. That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'm Biggie from yeaes Sweet.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, they're wonderful, and so I just started volunteering and
then from there Dan and I probably fostered about forty
dogs and I just really fell in love with rescue
and rescue animals. And now we have four and I
would have one hundred more if I could.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
How many people do you think found you? Learned you
from the Road Goes On Forever? Wait that percentage? That's
how I found you. The live version, which I didn't know, oh,
was like also the main version. I was like, man,
this dude, and I think I saw you at ACL
like like I have a history. I have a history
of like watching you play and listen to your music.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But I was like, dang, those live records are this good?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But then that was the version when you recorded that
or did you know that? Did you have a feeling
that that song was going to be the one that
pop so hard?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
It's a really good question about it, because I really
don't know. I can't assess my own songs early very well.
I mean, when I wrote that song, I thought, you know,
it's up tempo, cool, got you know, some drama in
and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
But I didn't know to do that.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I didn't know, like that Christmas song would like give
me fourteen years on the road of Christmas shows I had.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I just have a hard time.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
And I'll say this by contrast, there are songs that
I think are really great and they never catch fire.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
People know that don't hear them.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But I love them and I think they're great, and
I keep doggedly trying to go, you're gonna like this
song if you listen to it, but it just doesn't happen.
So I don't really have any idea of what really
is a hit for some reason.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Do you have songs that were poems that you were like,
I got to turn this now into a song?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Uh? Something like that.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
One time, I did this exercise where I wanted to
write a song that had absolutely no rhyme at all,
So I really pretty much wrote it as a poem
and then but the end goal was to make it
in a song, So then then I added the music.
So that was that's about it close.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
But nothing rhymed the whole song.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Nothing.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
How'd that do?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
It's great, it's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
As a matter of fact, I got this guy, guy
Baptiste Harman from France to sing it in French.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
While I while I narrated it.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
In English with the music, and he's, you know that
great French thing. It's just it makes it so sexy
when he sings it, you know, and I'm under there,
you know, with this under and the girl did this
and this, and it's so fantastic. So yeah, it was.
It was I've never really played for anybody. It's just
somewhere and you.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Know, you just have it, ya.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I just I never number one I wanted to do
with it.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I just it's kind of it kind of doesn't fit
unless you were like this some kind of deep cuts.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
But it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The I have the box set, so I have the
whole the whole thing beautifully packaged. Yes, a lot of
different things. There's a DVD. There's a song book. I
was talking, there's just a lot. There's a lot there.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Why that.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
It started, it just became that.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
It It was like we started with just music and
recording it, and we did record the d v D
at the same time we recorded the audio so that
all matches, uh, And after that, you know, it was like, well,
we've got to have a song book because it's all new.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
I'm thinking people should see that.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
So we did the so and then I think Claria
started talking about like somebody was doing a graphic novel,
and I said, well, that would be fun to do.
So we started to get into that, and that was
the one that nearly killed us because I never that's
it's a lot of work, a lot of work people.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
The drawing of it.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Yeah, I didn't, you know, I didn't draw that. I
I hired that out. But I managed the whole thing,
in the storyline and everything. But I even had to
get at a dialogue guy to write the dialogue because
I because I couldn't be as I wasn't as clever
as this guy was.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
He was really clever.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
So I got so I had the storyline, the whole
the whole visual concept, but I had to get that
somebody I can't draw that.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Well, So no, I get that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I wrote a kid's book and I can't draw it all.
And you know, you have to go and find somebody
who kind of represents what your texture is, right, which
is a hard thing to do.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I would say it would be as if you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Were an artist and you're not talking about you, but
any artist who songs but finds a song that they
didn't write but still speaks for them. Like that's rare
that that can actually happen. But I have friends that
are really great songwriters, but sometimes there's a song that
pops into their world that they didn't write, and they're like,
this represents who I am and it's odd. And I
felt that way with finding somebody who to draw my
(13:17):
words and thoughts, that this person has to draw what
I'm feeling and how what I'm saying, and that was
a more difficult process than I would have thought.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah, it's grabbing that feeling. That's that's that's the magic.
Speaker 8 (13:29):
There.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You're going and you're doing more shows, but you're not retired.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
I guess I never thought you were retired.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Well, I retired. I'm retired really from touring. So I
don't have a bus. The band that I put together
is the same band that I have, but it's just
because I was it's going.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Incidentially they were.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It was I'm lucky that they still have some space
in the calendar and then but you know, the thing
is was the the grind of touring, you know, just
getting off a tour and then preparing for the next tour.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
It never stopped it never did stop.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I mean, it's just like kept going, kept going, and
I just got to a point where I thought I
was wearing everybody out. So I didn't think in terms
about like just taking a year off, you know, and
that kind of thing. I always wondered why those people
take a year off. They're like twenty five years old
and they said, I'm going to take a year off.
I said, that's because you don't have any gigs. Man,
don't tell me that. I mean, you don't have to
(14:23):
take a year off.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
But I don't know why. That didn't really cross my mind.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
I just saw it at that time, and I did
feel a certain amount of burnout going on with me.
I just felt like I was blazing through a lot
of stuff. I wasn't really phoning it in, but I was.
I was definitely a little bit muddled, and I really
felt like I was losing and I did not want
which is the irony years like, I'm still beat up,
(14:47):
but I did not want to be one of those
people that are all beat up and you know, they're
pushing them up on the stage or getting the ladder
for them or whatever they're doing.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
I wanted to go in.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
The best I could go out, but well came in,
you know, and that was really part of that was
a big part of the decision.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Kind good level, cast up, little food for yourself life, ain't.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
Oh it's pretty behaved, it's pretty beautiful thing laugh, a
little more exciting because man said he can't cut your
kicking with full Thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 11 (15:48):
Hey it's Amy Brown from Four Things with Amy Brown.
And here's what we talked about this week on my podcast.
So just to wrap up the you know, mental health
piece and being unhappy at our job or in I
feel like it could apply to work or if you're
happy in a certain environment and you're in maybe your
(16:09):
group of friends or something like that. But just taking
that assessment, what are some signs that we look out for. Okay,
this is not healthy because sometimes we're just in the motion,
especially when we show up for work. I feel like
you show up, you do the job, you're sort of
detached in a way, which maybe that's a sign.
Speaker 12 (16:25):
One hundred percent. There's a theory on this called flow,
and I always like to give it outside resource, in
my own resource. And there's this legendary psychologist named Mihai
Cheek sent me high you can never never spell it
in a million years, but he's got millions of views
on a Ted talk and he described the theory of flow,
and he was thirty years in his study of flow.
You've probably heard of it, and he basically says that
(16:48):
flow is where we get to a place where we
have equal parts challenge, meaning it's a challenging task and
equal parts ecstasy, and ecstasy in its purest form is
the enjoyment because it is equal parts challenging and I
can meet the challenge, so I have enough skill to
actually do it. And so those are some signs if
(17:10):
I'm in the workplace and I'm not challenged, like I've
mastered this thing, and there's not a new challenge, and
what we do every show is a different challenge, so
we have that, you know. But if we get to
a point where we're just on cruise control and there's
no challenge, that's a sign. The other thing is is
that I just don't enjoy it. And it's okay. By
(17:32):
the way, you're not a bad person if you evolve.
Many times we do evolve. Our passions evolve. You know.
The root word of passion is peti and it means
to suffer. So I would suffer for my kids.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
And I know you would too.
Speaker 12 (17:45):
You know, the people we love in our life, we
would suffer for it. We would suffer for certain causes.
And so that's passion, Like it's not a romantic thing here,
this is a conviction like I will suffer. And for me,
I realized that broadcasting was something I was willing to
suffer for, and I made less money for several years.
I didn't contribute to my retirement. I suffered just to
(18:07):
get the shot to do what I do now because
I know that that's what I was put on this
planet to do. And so if you don't have that joy,
like even on a really bad day, if you're not
ready to get up the next day and get back
after it because you actually love the role itself or
the task itself, that's a sign. And then we've been
talking about the other sign, and that's the people part
(18:30):
of this deal. You can absolutely do something in your
assessment that says this is my purpose statement.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You could be using what you do best, to do
what you love, to produce.
Speaker 12 (18:39):
Results of matter in a sucky environment and be miserable
because of the people side of it. So if the
people are dragging you down. That's a sign get out
of there.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
It's not your place.
Speaker 11 (18:50):
But then it's just not as simple as that. You
may have to have gratitude and be patient.
Speaker 12 (18:54):
Yes, sorry, I always want to point out I never
want people to jump without a boat to jump into.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
But my point is.
Speaker 12 (19:00):
That's your sign it's gonna kill you emotionally. We did
this simple little post amy I don't know, about a
year or two ago, and I saw some data and
I just posted it. I was sitting in a chair
like this and I was just like, research shows that
your boss has more impact on your mental health than
your doctor. And we posted it. It's like ten million views,
like because everybody in the comments on it is what
(19:21):
it was just heartbreaking, Like I wasn't excited about the
amount of views. I was honestly heartbroken by so many
people resonating with that statement. And I'm just bringing that
up to say, because you've been talking about mental health
on this people thing to the extent that you can
hang in there just long enough to get out of there,
get out, get out, get into something else. Because you're
(19:43):
in a negative environment, it will absolutely crush you. And
as you know, the mental health piece. You're spending eight
to ten hours a day with a jerk boss or
jerk coworkers, that's gonna affect you physically, spiritually, emotionally. You're
gonna drag that home with you. Your life cannot be
a dumpster fire at work and then you just go
home and be like, hey, flip a switch. Impossible. And
(20:06):
that's why I'm passionate about helping men so many times,
because it's like, dude, your marriage is failing and you're
set up for an affair or substance or any other
temptation if you don't have this contribution during the day
or you go I did it. And I'm speaking to
men here because I'm a man, but I'm just saying
I think a lot of the ills and marriages are
are because men don't have any meaning or purpose in
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their work during the day, and so they're trying to
find it somewhere else and they can't come home with
all that on them and be.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Who they're supposed to be.
Speaker 12 (20:37):
They just can't.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I'm not making excuses for them.
Speaker 11 (20:39):
Well, and you're miserable in certain areas, like it's like
that self assessment of am I likable? You actually talked
about this on your show too of am I likable?
And asking yourself that question, and that just stood out
to me, and it just talks if.
Speaker 12 (20:54):
You're not likable, you should you should probably figure out
why because the rest of your life is going to
unravel if you stay unlikable. Because I'm just telling you're
the problem if somebody did something to you inevitably and
somebody said something to you, and I acknowledge that. But
there's an old phrase in the church role called hurting
people hurt people, and it just couldn't be any more true,
you know, So I'm passionate about that. From the work standpoint,
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I'm hitting it again because it's the same as true
for women.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
You know.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
If you're a working professional woman and that's your gym
and that's what you want.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
To do, I love it.
Speaker 12 (21:25):
If you want to be a stay at home mom,
go for it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's a crazy job in the world. No judgement either way.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
But you better have that meaning and what that role.
Speaker 12 (21:34):
Is like, this is who I'm supposed to be at
this season of my life. If not, I'm telling you
your physical health and the data bakes backs me up
on this. Your physical health, your mental health, your emotional
health is going to tank.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
We're going to do it live.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Oh, the one, two, three, Sore Losers.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports. I'll give you the sports my sports opinions,
because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
We do have a farm.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
It's beautiful, a lot of acreage, no animals, a lot
of crops. Hopefully soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe
a little fescue to be determined. Over to you, coach.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
And here's a clip from this week's episode of The
Sore Losers. And here's a clip from one of And
here's a clip from one of the episodes this week
on The Sore Losers. Take this clip and play it.
How do you guys always flood? You flooded the last
time when Billy was here. That's right, dude, That's why
(22:46):
I need a co host.
Speaker 12 (22:47):
Man.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Hell of a connection. We get there and we read
the guest book a couple of drinks one night. It
was a lot of downtimes that we're playing Domino's Chicken
leg watching Wimbledon Round one.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Now we're into the semis. Hey, I mean joker got
walk over. Well I don't know what happened to the
other guy. He got hurt ast hip man.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
But anyways, we're reading the guest book and it says stuff, Oh,
love the Airbnb. It was so funnier. We had a
great time.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Love the Airbnb.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
A lot of rain.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Weren't able to.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Use First Avenue. Huh, love the Airbnb. Man careful when
it rains. Another comment, Love the Airbnb. It was nuts,
except for you can't go on First.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Avenue if it rains. Oh, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Love the Airbnb.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
It was beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous, really nice back patio, perfect
for the fall weather. But that storm that came in
really caught us by surprise. We were stuck inside. That's funny,
that's so so weird. And then we got all drunk
and we right in there. We're like, we're fucking celebrities, dude.
We wrote a bunch of drunks. It was like the
most beautiful guest book and then we just demolished it
(23:49):
with our We like all signed it. Though Ali's signature
might be worth something sometime. And so then we're uh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
F warre.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
We we're on King Street and we're drinking it uptown.
Uptown ended up being one of the favorites.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
That was one of your spots drink deals, and they
you're you're like McKitty, you go to the same bar
over and over again.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
They're a decent amount of time because it was a
block from the place that's smart and they would play
Ali's song that she's releasing in two weeks over the
speakers and so we'd see if people were vibe into it.
And so we leave uptown.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
We get into the weed store, but we didn't buy
weed a weed legal there or is it one of
the other ones? Non THHC got it.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
But they also have agent Asian candies, so you don't
even have to get the THHC.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Got it.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
Yeah, there's like non they're just normal candies from Asia.
But you can only get him at the weed store.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I've never been Charleston. Sounds like a heck of a place. Man, crazy.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
So we're in the weed store, all right, girls are
running in from the water. Dude, there's girls in bikini tops.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So oh my gosh, it's raining.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
We get in there there, Ali gets some Asian candies,
sucking them down.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
I'm like, are you guys getting high?
Speaker 8 (24:54):
And they said no, there's no whatever it's called in it.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
That's what confused me.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Explain it to me. So we're trapped in the store
an hour.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
Dude, the biggest drentio comes through people floating by on
the water in front of the King Street no less,
and so we finally stops, and then we're able to leave.
We're stuck in there in the store forever. And I
go up to the one dude we'd spent money with
and I go, hey, man, I've got to go. I've
had to go for an hour. Can I please use
ther restroom? And he looks at me dead in the
eye and he goes, no, man, we don't have one here.
(25:23):
So you're an employee and for a nine hours, you
guys are on one restroom.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Okay, so you shut down the store when you got
to go pee, you lock the doors and go next door.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
I thought we were on a pretty common ground where
were all cool. That's all good, man, I'll just piss
myself while I'm waiting. So it finally clears up, we
go home. We're going home. We get an uber because
it's a decent amount of little jog, So we get
into uber and we're all just in the bag kind of.
We hadn't been drinking in hours because the weed shop
had no alcohol, so we're just kind of like sobering up.
And then we get to second avenue and they dry
(25:52):
and none of us even saw it. And the driver goes,
oh no, oh, oh shit, oh you me, And we
all look up. Dude, we thought he got in a
car accident. The entire first avenue flooded. Our apartment house
was underwater. What And we go, I get now why
(26:16):
the guest book said it sucks when it rains. And
so the driver goes, I can't go any farther. I
cannot go any farther. So dude drops us two blocks up.
So now you need a canoe to get to the place.
We're able to go on the sidewalk far enough and
then get into our house. And at our front door
is a barricade because the floods get up so high
(26:37):
on the door that you need this little thing that
you stick in front where it's there's like an Allen
ranch and a Jimmy ranch and you stick it in
there and you suck it off, and you keep turning
it and jacking it. So we had this thing on
our door so our house wouldn't flood, and so we're
both all laughing, like man reading that guest book. They
should have said, hey, guys, if you're reading this, the
entire fucking first floor floods, not first avenue.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I think you guys said it wrong.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
And dude, so then the whole time, sorry, go ahead,
So then the whole I'm like, we get inside safely.
I believe the girls took their shoes off. I was
fine with mine on my own care.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
I'm gonna say shirts damn no.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Yeah, the girls getting naked, I'm I was like, all right, cool,
all right. So dude, I sit there, I grab a beer.
I'm sitting on the barricade, just watching people. I mean
it's like, guy orders pizza, pizza, gar won't go any farther.
Guy in the pizza. He's wading through water to get
his pizza. Guy and girl come home from work. The
chick is like in her nice dress thing. She's like,
fuck it, I don't know what else to do. So
(27:32):
she's walking across the in the water. The dude decides
to scale his whole first floor of his house could
have fallen and broken his back to get into the house.
I'm like, buddy, there was probably a better route, dude,
So nobody's able to go, and that the cars are stopping, people.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Are like, what the I mean, what the how did
this flood? What the dude?
Speaker 8 (27:50):
Apparently anytime it rains where we were Charleston, half of
it is under seawater level, so it floods. So if
if there's a rainstorm, you're a foot underwater, why don't.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
They fix that?
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I mean, dude, so your boy.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
I mean, I am just sitting drinking Wimbled and playing
co Co Coda and it's just one after another. Pizza guy,
a couple coming home from work. You got, dude, people
abandoning their cars. There was three cars in the middle
of the road.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
I took pictures. We can put them all up. It
was nuts.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I've never actually been part of a flood, Hurricane Katrina style.
And it happened in a flash, one one hour. It
was flooded out.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
That's unbelievable. But then, so did you go to the
guest book and be like Hey, people weren't lying about
that first avenue.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Yeah, guys, when you said first avenue, you can also
say first avenue slash flooded.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Were not one person.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
In the guest book used the terminology can hurricane flood
like paunch a train breach.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
And then like the mosquitoes? How long does it take
to get Ford to go down?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Oh we're flooded for about three four hours.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Girls were just inside. You can't gotta go out. Just
let the girls are napping. I'm like, ladies, it's getting
a little higher.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Call line.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
She's a queen and talking and so you know, she's
getting really not afraid to feed the episode, So just
let it blow.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
No one can do we quiet cary Line.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
It's time of Caroline.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
We're gonna get real podcast again.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Than who doesn't what it is?
Speaker 13 (29:57):
Lick you do you feel about a lot?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Do people just want to touch you?
Speaker 14 (30:02):
Okay, you know what's funny and okay and not I
feel a lady, but like you're you just people want
to touch you. Well, I feel very thankful that, like
I've been in this business for like since I was
seventeen quote unquote professionally, and I feel very lucky that
I've never been touched inappropriately by a man.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
A man.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Heck, yeah by a man.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
So you're holding you?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Do you know?
Speaker 14 (30:28):
You the amount of women that will just come up
to me and grab my boobs and I'm like, since
when is this okay?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You guys? Like I'm I'm.
Speaker 14 (30:36):
Kind of like one of those girls that like, I
don't hug my girlfriends. It's kind of it's like, are
we gonna hut? Like it's just weird. I grew up
with sisters and it's like, dude, like, yeah, we hug
and we we love each other, but it's kind of like,
I don't know, we don't coddle and freaking.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Touch each other. Like it's just kind of I don't know.
Speaker 14 (30:55):
But there's been a couple of times where I'm like,
is there this new phenomenon with girlfriends just like coming
up to you and just grabbing your boobs and your
butt And that's just like the greeting now, because it's
it's odd to me.
Speaker 9 (31:09):
How do you feel I would never strangers dying this year?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
No, it's it's.
Speaker 14 (31:14):
Like, oh, they're not friends friends, but they're like acquaintances.
I'm like, I don't know you well enough for you to,
and sometimes it embarrasses me because it's like we're in
front of a bunch of people. It'll be in like
a circle of people and it's like this girl, they'll
just like come up and.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Be like, give me those kitties.
Speaker 14 (31:32):
I'm like, what the heck you guys like it's it's
kind of embarrassing, and I'm just I get I feel
really uncomfortable, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 13 (31:43):
To kind of circle back around, like a conversation that's
going on in the world right now, like Taylor Swift
talking about Lady Gaga. Everyone's asking she's pregnant, and Taylor
Swift lays it, oh wait.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I'm unfamiliar with the Lady Gaga.
Speaker 13 (31:54):
Oh well, she like posted a picture and she must
have had like a pooch or something or just you know,
just a picture where you know, we're not in line exactly,
we're not none of us have a flat flow, and
people are like, oh my god, she's pregnant. And then
she posted down bad just at the gym or something
like or something that she quoted Taylor Swift, and then
Taylor Swift waded in and was like, can we just
(32:14):
like agree that it's uh what you say like inappropriate
and insensitive to talk about women's bodies.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Also, what if she was pregnant? Who cares? I know,
So it's like we'll be pregnant, I know.
Speaker 13 (32:27):
But see, the thing is, you have one of these
bodies though, that is so beautiful that it's hard not
to notice it because you're just such a.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Vision when you walk in.
Speaker 13 (32:38):
Honestly, I mean really, you are like a vision to
see and so it's like hard not to stare at you.
Speaker 14 (32:44):
You know, well, I think you know me well enough
to know I don't mind people staring at me, and
I don't I want to be in this business if
I didn't like that. Like I enjoy attention, of course,
I totally enjoy that, but it's I get a I
don't how to articulate it very well.
Speaker 13 (33:01):
It's an interesting line though, because yes, people are looking
are beautiful. It's like, you know, celebrities are to be seen.
But it's like, where is that line where everyone feels
like they have the right to have full access to
talking about engaging about maybe even touching someone's body. Who
is putting themselves out there?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Maybe it's because I'm putting myself out.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
There, like, I don't think you deserved it.
Speaker 14 (33:24):
I don't know, I don't know, you know, but at
least with like girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Again, it's very interesting.
Speaker 14 (33:30):
This is an interesting science, like I want to I
was honestly talking to my husband about this.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I was like, what is this thing about?
Speaker 14 (33:37):
Like, Okay, I've been touched more unwelcomed, you know, women
touching me and grabbing me.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Then I've never had a man do that.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
That's freaking amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You must have laundry, though.
Speaker 13 (33:51):
You must put off some vibes that say, like I
think to be respected, which is amazing, I think so.
Speaker 14 (33:57):
Yeah, I'd like to think like I'm I'm I'm a
flirt and I know I love men, I love people,
I love engaged in conversation, getting to know people. But
I'd like to think I don't put off that vibe
like you're not crossing the line with me. Yeah, buddy, yeah, buddy, Yeah,
you can think about it.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Don't tell me.
Speaker 14 (34:16):
You know, you do whatever you want in that brain
of yours. But you know, I like to think I
carry myself with that apparently not around girls.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
So I'm like, apparently I'm just like, yeah, just come
home and touch me. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 14 (34:30):
Know, it's just kind of I really want to understand
what the science is there.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Have you trying to think about this because.
Speaker 13 (34:37):
I I totally agree with like I don't think women's
body should be discussed, but okay when Taylor Swift said
women's body should not be discussed.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
It's also hard.
Speaker 13 (34:47):
Tough because like the worst thing I do when I.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
See when I see someone, I'll be like, man, you
look good.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
What is that you have to compliments?
Speaker 14 (34:55):
And that makes me feel good, like when my girlfriends
say like, oh my gosh, like when I'm actually taking
care myself and they're like, oh you're you look amazed
and like thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
I think it's just so much as focused on women's looks,
you know.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I think that that's.
Speaker 14 (35:07):
Like I think, because we're fun to look at, so
I think it is natural, and I think I do
think there is a natural. The natural man, you know
and woman is we're physical beings, we're sexual beings, we're funtal.
I probably check out women way more than I check
out men.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Apparently if you look at.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
If you look at boobs, it like increases your exciting.
Speaker 14 (35:29):
Yeah, I know that's always having your show who doesn't
like looking out a nice parent.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I mean, I do know, ye do.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I mean, it's just you know.
Speaker 14 (35:39):
And then but then you could go into the science
of like why what makes us think one thing is
nice to look at and one's not? Like is that
because of our programming in society? Is there something natural?
And it's just very interesting.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
All that is very interesting to me, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And why do we think the way we think?
Speaker 13 (35:58):
I don't know, well, because we're all driven by set ultimately,
you know, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's
such a fine line because like, you want to be sexy,
you put yourself out there, but then it's like, what's
too sexy when people start like invading your privacy.
Speaker 14 (36:12):
It's very interesting because I've always looked at like, look,
I'm the first to admit, like, the costumes I wear
on stage aren't smartest hot, and I love them, but.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I look like but not.
Speaker 13 (36:21):
I'm not to compare each another artists. I hate that
when you compare so much another artist. But like I'm
telling you, I'm gonna like Selena.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I'm totally ripping her off.
Speaker 14 (36:28):
Oh god, you are so sexy. No, she's like one
of my biggest inspirations. And for so long I've been
I've been thinking about like what actually makes me feel good?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
What do I want to wear?
Speaker 14 (36:39):
And I've always loved her style always I'm like, I
need something to dance in. I need something I can
jump around in or be dazzling bras.
Speaker 13 (36:47):
I don't feel because I know you've come into owning
your yourself, owning your body, owning your image, owning your music,
owning your artistry like this has been a last time
we talked was like a year ago, and you had
just you had left your label. You had come out
of a season that was pretty like confusing and lost,
(37:09):
and you're coming out of like understanding your bodies orders.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I mean, me too, struggle with so many to eating disorders.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
And then you had you were coming into this full
just embracing of yourself.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Thanks for listening to the Sunday Sampler. So many episodes,
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Hey guys.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sunday Sampler time on the Sore Losers. They talk about
stories from their vacation. We'll get to that. On the
Bobby Cast, I talked with the Legend Americana and Texas
Legend Robert Earl Keene. He opened up about why he
decided to retire from the road after forty one years
of touring. But we have a new podcast on the network.
It's so good. It's called In the Vets Office with
Doctor Josie. Abby Smyers. She is Dan Smyers, his wife
(00:32):
from Dan and Jay. They talked about their dog and
how their dog was sick. So they took the dog
to the vet. The vet was like, no, dog's fine,
and so I took the dog to another vet, which
was doctor Josie. Doctor Josie was like, no, the dog
guess cancer and they're going through chemo. They talk about
animals and Dan and Shay and they talk about rescue.
It's a really great episode. Here's a clip of In
(00:53):
the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Help.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Welcome to in the Vets Office, Abby Smiers. Hi, I'm
so excited to have you here.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You're welcome Anne today.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
As everyone knows perfect, she sat right on cue. This
podcast is biod and she brought with her the lovely Macaroni.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
This is Macaroni. She's so good. Yes, yes, Macaroni. We
call her mac. She has the best ear. She's perfect
in every way. Yeah, one ear, crazy straight up.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
One year down. You actually have attached to it her
little years. I love that.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
My friend Andrew drew it for me and then I
got it tattooed because I love.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Her ears so much. It's so cute. So we have
a lot of ground to cover today. Before we dive in,
I have to tell one of my favorite stories about you.
Abby and I really like to walk our dogs together.
And I think it was last summer, whatever, last year
sometime you text me about twenty minutes before we're supposed
to go on our walk and you're like, I'm so sorry,
I'm not gonna be able to come over.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Here's why.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And you send me a picture and it's this tiny
newborn baby deer, the.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Cutest thing that's ever existed. It was so cute, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So cute, and I'm like, whatever you do, do not
come on this walk.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You must stand vigil safe over this deer.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It did not need any saving, and I learned, Yeah,
but I thought I needed saving.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
But you stayed in your house all day, yeah, watching
this baby deer.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yes, because I was so concerned something was gonna happen
to it. And it's the cutest thing you've ever seen. Yeah,
I also am so I love deer. I think they're
just really magical.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And Abby has a water bowl out you guys in
her front yard for deer.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We're in a drought.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We're in a drought. We're in a drought.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How are they gonna find?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And honestly, the last night, one of the last times
I was over your ring doorbell camera, your outdoor camera
picked up a deer drinking out of the water bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You were the first person to ever see them because
they never use it. They just like look at it
and consider drinking it and never do. And then finally
my hard work paid off.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I was kind of like laughing at you in my head.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm like, yeah, all right, like a deer's gonna drink
out of this bowl and then sure enough it did.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay, anyways, back to the baby deer, and you're like,
what do I do? I'm like, I don't know. They
don't cheach us this in bet school.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm recognizing that we're going to be talking about animals
and I'm like automatically using this like way higher voice.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
And when I'm talking to animals and it's I love it.
So you called a wildlife person.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I did because I had never been around a baby deer.
I love them, but I and it was I don't know.
It was just in a very strange spot where our
house was situated. There wasn't anywhere for the mom to
really go, so I didn't know why I would have
left the baby there. It was a very weird spot
to leave it, and so I thought it was abandoned.
But lo and behold called a wonderful wild deer wildlife rehab.
(03:39):
Her name is Deborah. It lest you first, I have
her contact now in my phone and it has her birthday,
so I always know when her birthday is too.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I never talked to her again, but I know when
her birthday is and.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It says like what age too, that's amazing, But love
her and she told me so. Now that everyone knows
this about baby deer, if they are laying still, which
this one was completely silent and with their head down.
They're doing exactly by nature what they were born to do.
So when they're born, they are born odorless and silent,
and mom is obviously not so she leaves to go feed,
(04:14):
and they are protected because predators cannot find them. I mean,
my dogs had no idea that it was there. The
whole day I did.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, no, of course, I've never set a camera.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I ustar Ferbo camera and moved it from the dog's
room and so I could like watch them outside.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I got an update like every forty five minutes. It
was amazing and it was so cute, and so then
later that evening you're happy you let your dogs out,
is when it goes down. You let your dogs out
into the front yard.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yep, do you use the restroom. They had no idea
the deer was there. The deer was on the sideyard.
No big deal. I have been watching this thing all
day like my own child.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And it's mother, Yeah, I was its mother. And then
and then you found out that it had a clearly.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Do not trust me.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yes, Mom came flying out of nowhere, truly out of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Jumps yours do jumps your massive fence, You guys, this
is caught on her camera her front house, like security footage.
You're out there and then all of a sudden you
can see Dan come running outside.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, I was in the living room and I could
hear him yelling no, no, no, and I thought the
dogs are going after something, because they've been known to
chase a bunny or two. And he I can just
hear him screaming. I look out the window and I
see the mom in the front yard chasing the dogs.
He's chasing the deer. And it's I mean, it's the funniest.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
It was like he kind of already looks like Vince
Palm and he's a Steelers fan. He was like going left,
fake and right. The deer's like juking him. It's like
steps on ghosts. At one point, deer steped on ghosts.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
So then I of course called Josie and because you're
gonna be okay under different but yeah, and so, but
the funniest thing is, I'm like, what was your plan?
And that's what everyone wanted to know when they saw
the video, like were you going after the dogs? Are
you going after the deer? He's just like one or
the other, because he at one point dives takes a.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Fall, he took a hot mess, took one for the team,
and I just want to say he won dog Dad
of the Century for me. It was amazing. I'm gonna
have to post this video so everyone can see.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But also I'm like, how rude that I protected.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Your child all day and then you're trying to tack
my own. I know all that to say, if you
ever find a baby deer and just leave it alone,
leave it alone, get alone, go about your wife, your
dogs inside.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And keep your dogs inside.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Mac so Abby and I first met because she's super
duper involved here in the dog rescue community. How did
you get involved? Like, have you always been involved in
dog rescue? How did that come to be?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So it's been ten years almost exactly. I was working
at Warner Music Nashville, which is right down the road
from us, and someone was cooing in the hallway and
I was like, what's out there? And there was this
puppy and my coworker, Rebecca was fostering this little puppy
named Kathy, Sweet Kathy. And I don't know what it
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was about this dog. I just had. I guess had
rescue dogs growing up. My dad rescued a couple dogs,
but I just wasn't super well versed in the rescue world,
and my mom had had little be Shawn's. I had
a lab at the time that I got from a breeder,
and I just didn't really know anything. But this fairal
brown dog just stole my heart. And I Textan was like,
(07:36):
should we get this dog? He was like, bring her home,
and so brought her home that day and as a foster,
and two days later we texted the organization and said
we were going to keep her. But it was actually
the very first ever Pimp and Joy Week that the
Bobby Bones Show has done with Amy and honoring her mom,
and so it was like the very first one ever.
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There were signs all Overshville about Pimp and Joy and
so we when we adopted this dog, I was like,
I think we need to name her Joy. We did
this amazing thing. We rescued a dog, and so that
is Joy and Joy, I always say, is just the
reason that I am who I am and what I do,
because from there I got involved with the rescue that
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she was at Proverbs twelve ten Animal Rescue here locally,
they're a wonderful organization. That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'm Biggie from yeaes Sweet.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, they're wonderful, and so I just started volunteering and
then from there Dan and I probably fostered about forty
dogs and I just really fell in love with rescue
and rescue animals. And now we have four and I
would have one hundred more if I could.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
How many people do you think found you? Learned you
from the Road Goes On Forever? Wait that percentage? That's
how I found you. The live version, which I didn't know, oh,
was like also the main version. I was like, man,
this dude, and I think I saw you at ACL
like like I have a history. I have a history
of like watching you play and listen to your music.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But I was like, dang, those live records are this good?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But then that was the version when you recorded that
or did you know that? Did you have a feeling
that that song was going to be the one that
pop so hard?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
It's a really good question about it, because I really
don't know. I can't assess my own songs early very well.
I mean, when I wrote that song, I thought, you know,
it's up tempo, cool, got you know, some drama in
and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
But I didn't know to do that.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I didn't know, like that Christmas song would like give
me fourteen years on the road of Christmas shows I had.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I just have a hard time.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
And I'll say this by contrast, there are songs that
I think are really great and they never catch fire.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
People know that don't hear them.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But I love them and I think they're great, and
I keep doggedly trying to go, you're gonna like this
song if you listen to it, but it just doesn't happen.
So I don't really have any idea of what really
is a hit for some reason.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Do you have songs that were poems that you were like,
I got to turn this now into a song?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Uh? Something like that.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
One time, I did this exercise where I wanted to
write a song that had absolutely no rhyme at all,
So I really pretty much wrote it as a poem
and then but the end goal was to make it
in a song, So then then I added the music.
So that was that's about it close.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
But nothing rhymed the whole song.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Nothing.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
How'd that do?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
It's great, it's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
As a matter of fact, I got this guy, guy
Baptiste Harman from France to sing it in French.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
While I while I narrated it.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
In English with the music, and he's, you know that
great French thing. It's just it makes it so sexy
when he sings it, you know, and I'm under there,
you know, with this under and the girl did this
and this, and it's so fantastic. So yeah, it was.
It was I've never really played for anybody. It's just
somewhere and you.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Know, you just have it, ya.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I just I never number one I wanted to do
with it.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I just it's kind of it kind of doesn't fit
unless you were like this some kind of deep cuts.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
But it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The I have the box set, so I have the
whole the whole thing beautifully packaged. Yes, a lot of
different things. There's a DVD. There's a song book. I
was talking, there's just a lot. There's a lot there.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Why that.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
It started, it just became that.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
It It was like we started with just music and
recording it, and we did record the d v D
at the same time we recorded the audio so that
all matches, uh, And after that, you know, it was like, well,
we've got to have a song book because it's all new.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
I'm thinking people should see that.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
So we did the so and then I think Claria
started talking about like somebody was doing a graphic novel,
and I said, well, that would be fun to do.
So we started to get into that, and that was
the one that nearly killed us because I never that's
it's a lot of work, a lot of work people.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
The drawing of it.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Yeah, I didn't, you know, I didn't draw that. I
I hired that out. But I managed the whole thing,
in the storyline and everything. But I even had to
get at a dialogue guy to write the dialogue because
I because I couldn't be as I wasn't as clever
as this guy was.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
He was really clever.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
So I got so I had the storyline, the whole
the whole visual concept, but I had to get that
somebody I can't draw that.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Well, So no, I get that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I wrote a kid's book and I can't draw it all.
And you know, you have to go and find somebody
who kind of represents what your texture is, right, which
is a hard thing to do.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I would say it would be as if you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Were an artist and you're not talking about you, but
any artist who songs but finds a song that they
didn't write but still speaks for them. Like that's rare
that that can actually happen. But I have friends that
are really great songwriters, but sometimes there's a song that
pops into their world that they didn't write, and they're like,
this represents who I am and it's odd. And I
felt that way with finding somebody who to draw my
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words and thoughts, that this person has to draw what
I'm feeling and how what I'm saying, and that was
a more difficult process than I would have thought.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah, it's grabbing that feeling. That's that's that's the magic.
Speaker 8 (13:29):
There.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You're going and you're doing more shows, but you're not retired.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
I guess I never thought you were retired.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Well, I retired. I'm retired really from touring. So I
don't have a bus. The band that I put together
is the same band that I have, but it's just
because I was it's going.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Incidentially they were.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It was I'm lucky that they still have some space
in the calendar and then but you know, the thing
is was the the grind of touring, you know, just
getting off a tour and then preparing for the next tour.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
It never stopped it never did stop.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I mean, it's just like kept going, kept going, and
I just got to a point where I thought I
was wearing everybody out. So I didn't think in terms
about like just taking a year off, you know, and
that kind of thing. I always wondered why those people
take a year off. They're like twenty five years old
and they said, I'm going to take a year off.
I said, that's because you don't have any gigs. Man,
don't tell me that. I mean, you don't have to
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take a year off.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
But I don't know why. That didn't really cross my mind.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
I just saw it at that time, and I did
feel a certain amount of burnout going on with me.
I just felt like I was blazing through a lot
of stuff. I wasn't really phoning it in, but I was.
I was definitely a little bit muddled, and I really
felt like I was losing and I did not want
which is the irony years like, I'm still beat up,
(14:47):
but I did not want to be one of those
people that are all beat up and you know, they're
pushing them up on the stage or getting the ladder
for them or whatever they're doing.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
I wanted to go in.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
The best I could go out, but well came in,
you know, and that was really part of that was
a big part of the decision.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Kind good level, cast up, little food for yourself life, ain't.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
Oh it's pretty behaved, it's pretty beautiful thing laugh, a
little more exciting because man said he can't cut your
kicking with full Thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 11 (15:48):
Hey it's Amy Brown from Four Things with Amy Brown.
And here's what we talked about this week on my podcast.
So just to wrap up the you know, mental health
piece and being unhappy at our job or in I
feel like it could apply to work or if you're
happy in a certain environment and you're in maybe your
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group of friends or something like that. But just taking
that assessment, what are some signs that we look out for. Okay,
this is not healthy because sometimes we're just in the motion,
especially when we show up for work. I feel like
you show up, you do the job, you're sort of
detached in a way, which maybe that's a sign.
Speaker 12 (16:25):
One hundred percent. There's a theory on this called flow,
and I always like to give it outside resource, in
my own resource. And there's this legendary psychologist named Mihai
Cheek sent me high you can never never spell it
in a million years, but he's got millions of views
on a Ted talk and he described the theory of flow,
and he was thirty years in his study of flow.
You've probably heard of it, and he basically says that
(16:48):
flow is where we get to a place where we
have equal parts challenge, meaning it's a challenging task and
equal parts ecstasy, and ecstasy in its purest form is
the enjoyment because it is equal parts challenging and I
can meet the challenge, so I have enough skill to
actually do it. And so those are some signs if
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I'm in the workplace and I'm not challenged, like I've
mastered this thing, and there's not a new challenge, and
what we do every show is a different challenge, so
we have that, you know. But if we get to
a point where we're just on cruise control and there's
no challenge, that's a sign. The other thing is is
that I just don't enjoy it. And it's okay. By
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the way, you're not a bad person if you evolve.
Many times we do evolve. Our passions evolve. You know.
The root word of passion is peti and it means
to suffer. So I would suffer for my kids.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
And I know you would too.
Speaker 12 (17:45):
You know, the people we love in our life, we
would suffer for it. We would suffer for certain causes.
And so that's passion, Like it's not a romantic thing here,
this is a conviction like I will suffer. And for me,
I realized that broadcasting was something I was willing to
suffer for, and I made less money for several years.
I didn't contribute to my retirement. I suffered just to
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get the shot to do what I do now because
I know that that's what I was put on this
planet to do. And so if you don't have that joy,
like even on a really bad day, if you're not
ready to get up the next day and get back
after it because you actually love the role itself or
the task itself, that's a sign. And then we've been
talking about the other sign, and that's the people part
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of this deal. You can absolutely do something in your
assessment that says this is my purpose statement.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You could be using what you do best, to do
what you love, to produce.
Speaker 12 (18:39):
Results of matter in a sucky environment and be miserable
because of the people side of it. So if the
people are dragging you down. That's a sign get out
of there.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
It's not your place.
Speaker 11 (18:50):
But then it's just not as simple as that. You
may have to have gratitude and be patient.
Speaker 12 (18:54):
Yes, sorry, I always want to point out I never
want people to jump without a boat to jump into.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
But my point is.
Speaker 12 (19:00):
That's your sign it's gonna kill you emotionally. We did
this simple little post amy I don't know, about a
year or two ago, and I saw some data and
I just posted it. I was sitting in a chair
like this and I was just like, research shows that
your boss has more impact on your mental health than
your doctor. And we posted it. It's like ten million views,
like because everybody in the comments on it is what
(19:21):
it was just heartbreaking, Like I wasn't excited about the
amount of views. I was honestly heartbroken by so many
people resonating with that statement. And I'm just bringing that
up to say, because you've been talking about mental health
on this people thing to the extent that you can
hang in there just long enough to get out of there,
get out, get out, get into something else. Because you're
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in a negative environment, it will absolutely crush you. And
as you know, the mental health piece. You're spending eight
to ten hours a day with a jerk boss or
jerk coworkers, that's gonna affect you physically, spiritually, emotionally. You're
gonna drag that home with you. Your life cannot be
a dumpster fire at work and then you just go
home and be like, hey, flip a switch. Impossible. And
(20:06):
that's why I'm passionate about helping men so many times,
because it's like, dude, your marriage is failing and you're
set up for an affair or substance or any other
temptation if you don't have this contribution during the day
or you go I did it. And I'm speaking to
men here because I'm a man, but I'm just saying
I think a lot of the ills and marriages are
are because men don't have any meaning or purpose in
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their work during the day, and so they're trying to
find it somewhere else and they can't come home with
all that on them and be.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Who they're supposed to be.
Speaker 12 (20:37):
They just can't.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I'm not making excuses for them.
Speaker 11 (20:39):
Well, and you're miserable in certain areas, like it's like
that self assessment of am I likable? You actually talked
about this on your show too of am I likable?
And asking yourself that question, and that just stood out
to me, and it just talks if.
Speaker 12 (20:54):
You're not likable, you should you should probably figure out
why because the rest of your life is going to
unravel if you stay unlikable. Because I'm just telling you're
the problem if somebody did something to you inevitably and
somebody said something to you, and I acknowledge that. But
there's an old phrase in the church role called hurting
people hurt people, and it just couldn't be any more true,
you know, So I'm passionate about that. From the work standpoint,
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I'm hitting it again because it's the same as true
for women.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
You know.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
If you're a working professional woman and that's your gym
and that's what you want.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
To do, I love it.
Speaker 12 (21:25):
If you want to be a stay at home mom,
go for it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's a crazy job in the world. No judgement either way.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
But you better have that meaning and what that role.
Speaker 12 (21:34):
Is like, this is who I'm supposed to be at
this season of my life. If not, I'm telling you
your physical health and the data bakes backs me up
on this. Your physical health, your mental health, your emotional
health is going to tank.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
We're going to do it live.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Oh, the one, two, three, Sore Losers.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports. I'll give you the sports my sports opinions,
because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
We do have a farm.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
It's beautiful, a lot of acreage, no animals, a lot
of crops. Hopefully soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe
a little fescue to be determined. Over to you, coach.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
And here's a clip from this week's episode of The
Sore Losers. And here's a clip from one of And
here's a clip from one of the episodes this week
on The Sore Losers. Take this clip and play it.
How do you guys always flood? You flooded the last
time when Billy was here. That's right, dude, That's why
(22:46):
I need a co host.
Speaker 12 (22:47):
Man.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Hell of a connection. We get there and we read
the guest book a couple of drinks one night. It
was a lot of downtimes that we're playing Domino's Chicken
leg watching Wimbledon Round one.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Now we're into the semis. Hey, I mean joker got
walk over. Well I don't know what happened to the
other guy. He got hurt ast hip man.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
But anyways, we're reading the guest book and it says stuff, Oh,
love the Airbnb. It was so funnier. We had a
great time.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Love the Airbnb.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
A lot of rain.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Weren't able to.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Use First Avenue. Huh, love the Airbnb. Man careful when
it rains. Another comment, Love the Airbnb. It was nuts,
except for you can't go on First.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Avenue if it rains. Oh, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Love the Airbnb.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
It was beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous, really nice back patio, perfect
for the fall weather. But that storm that came in
really caught us by surprise. We were stuck inside. That's funny,
that's so so weird. And then we got all drunk
and we right in there. We're like, we're fucking celebrities, dude.
We wrote a bunch of drunks. It was like the
most beautiful guest book and then we just demolished it
(23:49):
with our We like all signed it. Though Ali's signature
might be worth something sometime. And so then we're uh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
F warre.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
We we're on King Street and we're drinking it uptown.
Uptown ended up being one of the favorites.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
That was one of your spots drink deals, and they
you're you're like McKitty, you go to the same bar
over and over again.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
They're a decent amount of time because it was a
block from the place that's smart and they would play
Ali's song that she's releasing in two weeks over the
speakers and so we'd see if people were vibe into it.
And so we leave uptown.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
We get into the weed store, but we didn't buy
weed a weed legal there or is it one of
the other ones? Non THHC got it.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
But they also have agent Asian candies, so you don't
even have to get the THHC.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Got it.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
Yeah, there's like non they're just normal candies from Asia.
But you can only get him at the weed store.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I've never been Charleston. Sounds like a heck of a place. Man, crazy.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
So we're in the weed store, all right, girls are
running in from the water. Dude, there's girls in bikini tops.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So oh my gosh, it's raining.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
We get in there there, Ali gets some Asian candies,
sucking them down.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
I'm like, are you guys getting high?
Speaker 8 (24:54):
And they said no, there's no whatever it's called in it.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
That's what confused me.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Explain it to me. So we're trapped in the store
an hour.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
Dude, the biggest drentio comes through people floating by on
the water in front of the King Street no less,
and so we finally stops, and then we're able to leave.
We're stuck in there in the store forever. And I
go up to the one dude we'd spent money with
and I go, hey, man, I've got to go. I've
had to go for an hour. Can I please use
ther restroom? And he looks at me dead in the
eye and he goes, no, man, we don't have one here.
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So you're an employee and for a nine hours, you
guys are on one restroom.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Okay, so you shut down the store when you got
to go pee, you lock the doors and go next door.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
I thought we were on a pretty common ground where
were all cool. That's all good, man, I'll just piss
myself while I'm waiting. So it finally clears up, we
go home. We're going home. We get an uber because
it's a decent amount of little jog, So we get
into uber and we're all just in the bag kind of.
We hadn't been drinking in hours because the weed shop
had no alcohol, so we're just kind of like sobering up.
And then we get to second avenue and they dry
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and none of us even saw it. And the driver goes,
oh no, oh, oh shit, oh you me, And we
all look up. Dude, we thought he got in a
car accident. The entire first avenue flooded. Our apartment house
was underwater. What And we go, I get now why
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the guest book said it sucks when it rains. And
so the driver goes, I can't go any farther. I
cannot go any farther. So dude drops us two blocks up.
So now you need a canoe to get to the place.
We're able to go on the sidewalk far enough and
then get into our house. And at our front door
is a barricade because the floods get up so high
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on the door that you need this little thing that
you stick in front where it's there's like an Allen
ranch and a Jimmy ranch and you stick it in
there and you suck it off, and you keep turning
it and jacking it. So we had this thing on
our door so our house wouldn't flood, and so we're
both all laughing, like man reading that guest book. They
should have said, hey, guys, if you're reading this, the
entire fucking first floor floods, not first avenue.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I think you guys said it wrong.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
And dude, so then the whole time, sorry, go ahead,
So then the whole I'm like, we get inside safely.
I believe the girls took their shoes off. I was
fine with mine on my own care.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
I'm gonna say shirts damn no.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Yeah, the girls getting naked, I'm I was like, all right, cool,
all right. So dude, I sit there, I grab a beer.
I'm sitting on the barricade, just watching people. I mean
it's like, guy orders pizza, pizza, gar won't go any farther.
Guy in the pizza. He's wading through water to get
his pizza. Guy and girl come home from work. The
chick is like in her nice dress thing. She's like,
fuck it, I don't know what else to do. So
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she's walking across the in the water. The dude decides
to scale his whole first floor of his house could
have fallen and broken his back to get into the house.
I'm like, buddy, there was probably a better route, dude,
So nobody's able to go, and that the cars are stopping, people.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Are like, what the I mean, what the how did
this flood? What the dude?
Speaker 8 (27:50):
Apparently anytime it rains where we were Charleston, half of
it is under seawater level, so it floods. So if
if there's a rainstorm, you're a foot underwater, why don't.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
They fix that?
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I mean, dude, so your boy.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
I mean, I am just sitting drinking Wimbled and playing
co Co Coda and it's just one after another. Pizza guy,
a couple coming home from work. You got, dude, people
abandoning their cars. There was three cars in the middle
of the road.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
I took pictures. We can put them all up. It
was nuts.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I've never actually been part of a flood, Hurricane Katrina style.
And it happened in a flash, one one hour. It
was flooded out.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
That's unbelievable. But then, so did you go to the
guest book and be like Hey, people weren't lying about
that first avenue.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Yeah, guys, when you said first avenue, you can also
say first avenue slash flooded.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Were not one person.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
In the guest book used the terminology can hurricane flood
like paunch a train breach.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
And then like the mosquitoes? How long does it take
to get Ford to go down?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Oh we're flooded for about three four hours.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Girls were just inside. You can't gotta go out. Just
let the girls are napping. I'm like, ladies, it's getting
a little higher.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Call line.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
She's a queen and talking and so you know, she's
getting really not afraid to feed the episode, So just
let it blow.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
No one can do we quiet cary Line.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
It's time of Caroline.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
We're gonna get real podcast again.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Than who doesn't what it is?
Speaker 13 (29:57):
Lick you do you feel about a lot?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Do people just want to touch you?
Speaker 14 (30:02):
Okay, you know what's funny and okay and not I
feel a lady, but like you're you just people want
to touch you. Well, I feel very thankful that, like
I've been in this business for like since I was
seventeen quote unquote professionally, and I feel very lucky that
I've never been touched inappropriately by a man.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
A man.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Heck, yeah by a man.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
So you're holding you?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Do you know?
Speaker 14 (30:28):
You the amount of women that will just come up
to me and grab my boobs and I'm like, since
when is this okay?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You guys? Like I'm I'm.
Speaker 14 (30:36):
Kind of like one of those girls that like, I
don't hug my girlfriends. It's kind of it's like, are
we gonna hut? Like it's just weird. I grew up
with sisters and it's like, dude, like, yeah, we hug
and we we love each other, but it's kind of like,
I don't know, we don't coddle and freaking.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Touch each other. Like it's just kind of I don't know.
Speaker 14 (30:55):
But there's been a couple of times where I'm like,
is there this new phenomenon with girlfriends just like coming
up to you and just grabbing your boobs and your
butt And that's just like the greeting now, because it's
it's odd to me.
Speaker 9 (31:09):
How do you feel I would never strangers dying this year?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
No, it's it's.
Speaker 14 (31:14):
Like, oh, they're not friends friends, but they're like acquaintances.
I'm like, I don't know you well enough for you to,
and sometimes it embarrasses me because it's like we're in
front of a bunch of people. It'll be in like
a circle of people and it's like this girl, they'll
just like come up and.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Be like, give me those kitties.
Speaker 14 (31:32):
I'm like, what the heck you guys like it's it's
kind of embarrassing, and I'm just I get I feel
really uncomfortable, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 13 (31:43):
To kind of circle back around, like a conversation that's
going on in the world right now, like Taylor Swift
talking about Lady Gaga. Everyone's asking she's pregnant, and Taylor
Swift lays it, oh wait.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I'm unfamiliar with the Lady Gaga.
Speaker 13 (31:54):
Oh well, she like posted a picture and she must
have had like a pooch or something or just you know,
just a picture where you know, we're not in line exactly,
we're not none of us have a flat flow, and
people are like, oh my god, she's pregnant. And then
she posted down bad just at the gym or something
like or something that she quoted Taylor Swift, and then
Taylor Swift waded in and was like, can we just
(32:14):
like agree that it's uh what you say like inappropriate
and insensitive to talk about women's bodies.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Also, what if she was pregnant? Who cares? I know,
So it's like we'll be pregnant, I know.
Speaker 13 (32:27):
But see, the thing is, you have one of these
bodies though, that is so beautiful that it's hard not
to notice it because you're just such a.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Vision when you walk in.
Speaker 13 (32:38):
Honestly, I mean really, you are like a vision to
see and so it's like hard not to stare at you.
Speaker 14 (32:44):
You know, well, I think you know me well enough
to know I don't mind people staring at me, and
I don't I want to be in this business if
I didn't like that. Like I enjoy attention, of course,
I totally enjoy that, but it's I get a I
don't how to articulate it very well.
Speaker 13 (33:01):
It's an interesting line though, because yes, people are looking
are beautiful. It's like, you know, celebrities are to be seen.
But it's like, where is that line where everyone feels
like they have the right to have full access to
talking about engaging about maybe even touching someone's body. Who
is putting themselves out there?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Maybe it's because I'm putting myself out.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
There, like, I don't think you deserved it.
Speaker 14 (33:24):
I don't know, I don't know, you know, but at
least with like girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Again, it's very interesting.
Speaker 14 (33:30):
This is an interesting science, like I want to I
was honestly talking to my husband about this.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I was like, what is this thing about?
Speaker 14 (33:37):
Like, Okay, I've been touched more unwelcomed, you know, women
touching me and grabbing me.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Then I've never had a man do that.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
That's freaking amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You must have laundry, though.
Speaker 13 (33:51):
You must put off some vibes that say, like I
think to be respected, which is amazing, I think so.
Speaker 14 (33:57):
Yeah, I'd like to think like I'm I'm I'm a
flirt and I know I love men, I love people,
I love engaged in conversation, getting to know people. But
I'd like to think I don't put off that vibe
like you're not crossing the line with me. Yeah, buddy, yeah, buddy, Yeah,
you can think about it.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Don't tell me.
Speaker 14 (34:16):
You know, you do whatever you want in that brain
of yours. But you know, I like to think I
carry myself with that apparently not around girls.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
So I'm like, apparently I'm just like, yeah, just come
home and touch me. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 14 (34:30):
Know, it's just kind of I really want to understand
what the science is there.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Have you trying to think about this because.
Speaker 13 (34:37):
I I totally agree with like I don't think women's
body should be discussed, but okay when Taylor Swift said
women's body should not be discussed.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
It's also hard.
Speaker 13 (34:47):
Tough because like the worst thing I do when I.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
See when I see someone, I'll be like, man, you
look good.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
What is that you have to compliments?
Speaker 14 (34:55):
And that makes me feel good, like when my girlfriends
say like, oh my gosh, like when I'm actually taking
care myself and they're like, oh you're you look amazed
and like thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
I think it's just so much as focused on women's looks,
you know.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I think that that's.
Speaker 14 (35:07):
Like I think, because we're fun to look at, so
I think it is natural, and I think I do
think there is a natural. The natural man, you know
and woman is we're physical beings, we're sexual beings, we're funtal.
I probably check out women way more than I check
out men.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Apparently if you look at.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
If you look at boobs, it like increases your exciting.
Speaker 14 (35:29):
Yeah, I know that's always having your show who doesn't
like looking out a nice parent.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I mean, I do know, ye do.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I mean, it's just you know.
Speaker 14 (35:39):
And then but then you could go into the science
of like why what makes us think one thing is
nice to look at and one's not? Like is that
because of our programming in society? Is there something natural?
And it's just very interesting.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
All that is very interesting to me, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And why do we think the way we think?
Speaker 13 (35:58):
I don't know, well, because we're all driven by set ultimately,
you know, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's
such a fine line because like, you want to be sexy,
you put yourself out there, but then it's like, what's
too sexy when people start like invading your privacy.
Speaker 14 (36:12):
It's very interesting because I've always looked at like, look,
I'm the first to admit, like, the costumes I wear
on stage aren't smartest hot, and I love them, but.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I look like but not.
Speaker 13 (36:21):
I'm not to compare each another artists. I hate that
when you compare so much another artist. But like I'm
telling you, I'm gonna like Selena.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I'm totally ripping her off.
Speaker 14 (36:28):
Oh god, you are so sexy. No, she's like one
of my biggest inspirations. And for so long I've been
I've been thinking about like what actually makes me feel good?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
What do I want to wear?
Speaker 14 (36:39):
And I've always loved her style always I'm like, I
need something to dance in. I need something I can
jump around in or be dazzling bras.
Speaker 13 (36:47):
I don't feel because I know you've come into owning
your yourself, owning your body, owning your image, owning your music,
owning your artistry like this has been a last time
we talked was like a year ago, and you had
just you had left your label. You had come out
of a season that was pretty like confusing and lost,
(37:09):
and you're coming out of like understanding your bodies orders.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I mean, me too, struggle with so many to eating disorders.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
And then you had you were coming into this full
just embracing of yourself.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
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