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February 2, 2025 51 mins

In this weekly series, we share highlight clips from the past week of some of the podcasts on The Nashville Podcast Network- In The Vet's Office with Dr. Josie, Take This Personally with Morgan Huelsman, The BobbyCast, 4 Things with Amy Brown, Sore Losers, Movie Mike's Movie Podcast and Get Real with Caroline Hobby.  You can listen to new episodes weekly wherever you get your podcasts. 

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-The BobbyCast- @BobbyCast

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-Take This Personally- @TakeThisPersonally

-4 Things with Amy Brown- @RadioAmy

-Sore Losers- @SoreLosersPodcast

-Movie Mikes Movie Podcast- @MikeDeestro

-Get Real: @GetRealCarolineHobby

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Back with another Sunday sampler coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
On the Bobbycast, Eddie and I talk about the biggest
selling music catalogs of all time, and my wife makes
an appearance and hey, it's when I try to teach
her a history lesson. But you'll hear that on this
week's episode in the Vets Office, it's all about a
topic that most people don't want to talk about, the
sad part about having a pet. She has on doctor
Mary as well, who's the co founder of Lap of Love.

(00:33):
So let's get started there with this clip from in
the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
You're listening to in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschak.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Today.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
I was prior to our interview giving our listeners a
little bit of a heads up that these are some
heavier tipics to discuss, but important ones, and everybody as
a pet owner, at some point will we'll be dealing
with them. So I think it's really important that we
are able to talk openly about it.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
I know we're such a death adverse society in general,
even in human death right and so it's it's not
a topic that people want to talk about, but yet
they need to talk about it, and then they usually
feel better after talking about it, So they just at
least know their options, we know what to expect and
then can sit back and still enjoy life.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Absolutely, And I know I mentioned I just mentioned lap
of Love and that you are a co founder and
before we dive into all the things, I actually used
Lap of Love for one of my dogs previously, and
I just want to let you know it was such
a great experience. And I know at home usin Asia
is not for everyone, but I think it's a great
option to have, and I can't say how in a

(01:55):
terrible situation, how great of an experience I had.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
Oh, thank you for saying that.

Speaker 8 (01:59):
It is.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, it's you know, it's a personal choice of where
and who's around and things like that. And you know,
I do feel that they're most comfortable in their home
and we don't have to you know, do a final
ride in the car or anything like that. But also
we're a little bit more comfortable in the home and
if we want to, you know, grieve in our own way,

(02:21):
we can without having to worry about who's seeing us
or anything like that. So, but like you said, not
everybody wants that, and not everybody can have that because
sometimes we're at the emergency clinic or something like that
and it's it's unfortunate. So we're very blessed to have
such a rewarding career and or niche in the veterinary space,
and we love making that last final moment just a

(02:44):
bit better.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yeah, I agree. One thing I wanted to talk about
is I think I'm sure, I'm sure you'll relate to
this that as veterinarians, a lot of times people think
we are playing with kittens and puppies and running around
it's rainbows and butterflies, But a huge portion of our
job is taking care of senior patients and ensuring that

(03:06):
they're healthy overall and they're comfortable. And so I think
a really a big part of our job, and I'll
be interested to hear you expand on it is focusing
on our senior pets and then also recognizing that age
is not necessarily a disease, although it can certainly come
with its challenges.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah, I always say age is and a disease, but
it does bring disease, and our bodies do start to
age and have you know, it may not be a
failure of an organ or something like that. But we
don't have the same reparative processes. We don't have the
same energy level, the ability to fight off infections, and
so it's just it's just a fact of life, even

(03:46):
for our humans. But did you know that forty four
percent of pets our senior are senior or more so.
I love double digits, so the more double digits they have,
the better, like a teenager if you will.

Speaker 7 (04:00):
But forty four percent or over seven years old. And
that's massive.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
And so to your point, everybody thinks we're playing when
puppies or kittens, but that's that's actually only about twelve
percent of the population as a puppy or kitten because
eventually obviously they go to two, three, four years old.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
But the majority is actually.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Seniors, right, And I think that a really important part
for owners listening is bringing your pets in once they
hit senior hood. I think bringing them in twice year
is really important, just that way we can lay our
hands on them. We're running lab work on an annual basis,
we can we can see how they're doing. We have
a good baseline, and then if something does come up,
we can be on top of it and focusing on

(04:38):
that preventative care I think can make a huge difference.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, And you know, I was just this morning, I
was somewhere and this gentleman says, oh, I have a
twelve year old boxer.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
And this was just I wasn't in a clinic, Randy,
so this is just random.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
And and he's like, oh, you know, her hips are
really bad, and so it's a very common thing all
here as well.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
She's just she's getting old and what are we gonna do?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
And I'm like, and I wanted, to, of course go
into my whole talk and conversation, but I didn't have time.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
So what really makes me sad?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
And so many people think that doing euthanasias is what
makes me sad. I do get sad, but that's not
what makes me sad is But what does is that
so many older pets have not been to their doctor.
And it is about forty nine percent of dogs and
cats are not seen by their veterinarian the last year

(05:34):
of life. So let's just round that up to fifty
percent because it's a lot easier to talk. Half the
pets that we euthanize in the United States have not
been to their doctor. The year before they pass, and
that's where a lot of stuff happens where we can
help manage, and whether it's pain relief or anxiety relief
or just products and setting, you know, setting up their house.

(05:56):
This gentleman with this boxer, he's like, oh, she just
she can't get a grip on the floor and she
skates all over.

Speaker 7 (06:02):
And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so easy to fix.
And he just doesn't know. So I would love twice
a year's ideal. We got to get him in.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, they're not even coming in at all, so how
do we get him in?

Speaker 8 (06:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (06:15):
And I think it's like reframing our mindset as owners,
where oh, they're just old. Isn't really the mindset that
we want to have because there are so many things
that we can be doing to make their life better.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
You know, it's interesting, like do we say that about
ourselves when we're when we're going to be sixty seventies right,
like and something hurts or we can't see as well,
are we just going to say I'm just old?

Speaker 7 (06:39):
So I'm not going to go like we don't. I
don't think we say that to ourselves.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
And I mean, listen, I'm in my I'm in my
early fifties, and I feel like there's a doctor's appointment
on my calendar all the time, Like there's just I
have to go to the dermatologists tomorrow, and you know,
my knees are hurting, so there's I feel like I'm
always somewhere in a doctor's office. But we don't say
that in our to ourselves. So why would we say
the same thing for our pets?

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Right, And I think a huge portion of it is
they can't talk, so we really have to advocate for them.
And even if you think your pet is perfectly healthy,
they still need to go in for their checkup because
we can. We are trained as terinarians to see these
issues and help make your life and their life better.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah. And you know a lot of people will say, oh,
pets hide their pain so we don't see it.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
But I kind of think they just don't complain. I agree,
like we.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Actually And also people have goggles on it they can't
see things, and I'm sorry, if your pet is slowing down,
that's a sign of pain probably, right, So they actually
are showing you. We just don't know how to notice it.
Oh you know what, my kitty cat. She's not grooming
herself anymore, she's just getting old. No, she hurts, therefore

(07:53):
she can't room herself. Or maybe she's got oral ulcers
and she can't say thing, and what is she going
to do?

Speaker 7 (08:01):
Complaint?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Like, they don't complain, so they actually aren't hiding signs
of pic they're showing you. You're just looking for a
like a complaint, which we don't do, right, I mean,
now with that being said, they meant so in acute injury,
you'll hear them complain because they howl and cry and
all that stuff. But chronic long term illness like usually
they just kind of suck it up.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
But it doesn't mean they should.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Do.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
You want to take a shot at the the number
one artist before we get to number one, so the
Bob Dylan, the mechanical recordings or number eleven overall, so
it's publishing went for that amount, but number eleven his mechanical.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Recordings and his voice of one hundred and fifty million. Wow.
And I'll roll down some of theys before we get
to one.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Motley Crue at twelve one point fifty million, all our
million interesting Chili Peppers at thirteen one hundred and forty million.

Speaker 9 (08:53):
That's a lot of songs. Chili Peppers are awesome, a
lot of great songs.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
And the story about the Chili Peppers can Now you're
getting into things I cared about because I consume them
early on, so I wanted to learn more. Is that
their lead singer couldn't really sing when they started, Anthony Ketis,
which is why they did a lot of He had
to learn how to sing really, so was not a
good singer at all. Didn't even try to fake it

(09:18):
like it was a bad singer. Wow, But that's one
of those stories of somebody not having a skill, so
he has to develop something else that makes them stand
out so much that it becomes so original. And his
singing voice it developed, and it all started kind of
with Under the Bridge, right kind of because that that
was their big Yeah, that was a hit that kind
of got them hit, yes, like mainstream success pop radio. Yeah,

(09:41):
but like that whole Blood Sugar Sex Magic album, I
Love the Children, Like that's our age.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
I got that from like random health or like you know, you're.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I think I you know what I think I did too,
Shakira Imagine Dragon.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
It's both at one hundred million.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Stevie Nicks thought it'd be.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
More, but I guess she would probably only own a
part of Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac, The Beach Boys at
seventeen wow.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Gosh, that's low zz.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Top at eighteen ninety million, James Brown Estate nineteen ninety million,
A Tina Turner at number twenty. She told her catalog
in twenty twenty one for fifty million dollars.

Speaker 9 (10:23):
Let me ask you this, when do people decide to
sell their catalog?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Like MI can just tell you have friends that have
done it, and mostly it's if somebody makes them a
great offer when they're not listing it. One of my
friends sold theirs for like seven million bucks pretty recently
didn't have their catalog listed to sell, but I think
there was a grab. It was a time when it
was pretty hot to try to grab catalogs. I have

(10:49):
a songwriter friend who sold theirs for about ten wow,
and he has like forty number one.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
So do you start looking at like, Okay, this is
how much I make off my catalog my own in it.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Or it's also like if I sell it, what can
I make if the money sits in this kind of
account and just draws interest versus so you're doing that
math too, and you're having to have a like a
specialist come in and guess with you. And sometimes too
it's just like i'd like the lump su sure, I'd
like it now to buy stuff. I mean, sometimes it's

(11:19):
just that elementary as well.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
But then once you sell it, you don't.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Own it anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Like they can put in a commercial, they can do anything,
and it's that's crazy. Now you can put stipulations in
a contract that says you can't use it for porn
or stuff like that, but then it may make it
less valuable to somebody buying it. Yeah, but mostly you
sell it wow, and it's not used to say say
but I mean, everyone will always think it's still yours anyway,
and it's.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Kind of bye bye anyway.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Like once you release it, it just kind of exists everywhere
and if someone wanted to use it, they would. You'd
make your thousands of dollars each time. But lucrative obviously
if you have hits.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, and like Al Dean.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Sold his catalog, I don't know, I'm gonna guess around
twenty million and when I remember, but he doesn't write
a lot of songs.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
He just sings them.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
So he told his mechanicals, you know his voice, his voice, Yeah,
the number one. You wanna take a shot at it?
The Beatles, I don't think they They did sell their kelog,
but it was a long time ago, Michael Jacksonael.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Jackson, right, And I think then Apple bought it back.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
But I don't know that it's been recent where it
was an elevated price.

Speaker 9 (12:20):
Right Ooh, okay, so they're not number one, Michael Jackson number.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
One, Yeah, seven hundred and fifty million. I wonder what
the Beatles before we get to Jackson's the Beatles music
catalog price. Oh gosh, it's been valued, but it hasn't
been sold. It's valued now at one billion.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
One billion dollars. And who owns it?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Seven years after Michael Jackson died, Sony ATV agreed to
pay and they're not for sure, but they only own
a part of the steak. And I think Paul McCarney
bought some of it. He tried, he tried to buy something.
He tried to buy it from Michael Jackson.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
Yeah, I think I think it's the store.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Worry Michael Jackson outbid him for it. I think Michael
Jackson told him about it and then.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Ended up outbidding him for it.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Wow, but the whole catalog has not been sold to
one person, which is why is not on the list.
But for half of the catalog, Sony ATV agreed to
pay seven hundred and fifty million dollars, it's worth an
excess of over a billion dollars.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
Oh yeah, all together, and that'll continue to make money
for years and years and years.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Michael Jackson complete catalog, seven hundred fifty million bucksy Well.

Speaker 10 (13:56):
Cass Up Road, Little food for your son life. Oh
it's pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful for
that for a little more exciting, said he. You're kicking
it with full thing with Amy Brown.

Speaker 11 (14:16):
Even if you don't have ADHD, you'll likely relate to
at least a few of these. And I'm gonna go
through Alex's list and then share my own thoughts around
the lie. Now, the first lie is I'll take a
screenshot and look at it later. Here's the deal. We're
not gonna look at it later. I checked my phone

(14:36):
before I sat down to record, and I have six thousand,
five hundred and twenty eight screenshots in my phone. I
picked some at random to share with you. That way,
they aren't just wasted screenshots just sitting in my phone
for no reason. On June third of last year, I
have a screenshot. It's a picture of a frog, and

(14:57):
it says a female frogs fake their own death to
a void, mating with males they don't like. Now, I'm
pretty sure I took that screenshot for fun Fact Friday
on the Bobby Bone Show, so it probably didn't totally
go to waste. But I have a lot of fun
fact screenshots throughout my phone that I know I have
forgotten about and not gone back to for the show.
On November third of last year, I took a screenshot

(15:17):
of a post that was put up about turning your
phone to grayscale because it can help our mental health.
Grayscale makes scrolling less addictive for our brains. The screenshot
said it directly impacts your brain's primal urge to scroll.
Less scrolling equals better mental health, and then the post

(15:38):
said more in caption, but it didn't screenshot the caption,
so I don't have the more part for you. Those
are two that are from last year. But then I
got curious, like what some of the older screenshots on
my phone might be.

Speaker 12 (15:49):
So I scrolled all the way back to the very.

Speaker 11 (15:53):
First screenshot that is on this current phone that I have,
and it is from December twenty eighth, two thousand and fifty,
and it's a recipe for no bake.

Speaker 13 (16:03):
Almond flax balls.

Speaker 11 (16:05):
Now, I'm not even sure where it's from because all
I can see is the recipe and the ingredients, and
I'm gonna share it with you right now. Okay, she
want to make them, but I have no idea if
they're good, because I do not recall if I ever
even made these balls back in twenty fifteen. What you
need is one cup of dry old fashioned notes, a
fourth a cup of dark chocolate chips, a half a

(16:25):
cup of almond butter, a half a cup of ground
flax seed, a third of a cup of raw honey,
and a teaspoon of vanilla. Those are kind of like
Cat's protein balls. I mean, Ish doesn't have the protein powder,
and maybe she has some other things, but she recently
posted her recipe at cat van Buren is her handle.
If you want to go try hers, they're so good,

(16:47):
you can go to her page. Now you can take
a screenshot of the recipe and then you can never
go back to the screenshot and maybe never make them,
because that is what we do. Another screenshot that I'll
share with you that might be of use to you
as a screenshot that I took on October twenty fifth,
twenty nineteen. It's a post from the Brain Coach. They
put up something on Instagram titled signs you might be projecting.

(17:11):
Sign number one, you overreact to something you're insecure or
shameful about. Sign number two, you tell someone else they
can't achieve a goal because you feel incompetent in achieving it.
Sign three you express other people make you uncomfortable, when
it's really you who feels socially anxious around others. Sign

(17:34):
four you believe someone hates you when you're the one
who has strong dislike for that person. And the fifth
sign you criticize or hate someone for their appearance, when
it is you who is deeply insecure about that specific flaw.
Now that one was back from twenty nineteen, we went
all over the place we had twenty fifteen. I do

(17:54):
have a screenshot from yesterday that's more current and relevant
because Mel recently released her book The Let Them theory,
and my sister mailed me a copy and I started
reading it, but I had googled something yesterday, and I
guess I took a screenshot of it, and it says here,
let them think negative thoughts about me is a phrase
associated with Mel Robbins let them theory, which encourages individuals

(18:18):
to detach from the need to control what others think
about them, essentially saying, let them have their opinion and
focus on managing your own actions and reactions instead of
worrying about others' perceptions.

Speaker 14 (18:31):
So boom, look.

Speaker 11 (18:32):
At me using a screenshot I just took yesterday. I'm
Marty sharing it with y'all. I'm putting it to good use.
But yeah, that's the first lie. I'll take a screenshot
and I will look at it later. You're not going
to look at it. Second lie, a new notebook will
solve all of my problems. Okay, this one is one
hundred percent true for me, A very true lie.

Speaker 14 (18:55):
The joy of a fresh notebook.

Speaker 13 (18:57):
It just feels so good.

Speaker 11 (18:58):
But somehow before I use up the entire journal, like
the whole magic of it has completely worn off, and
now it's just this other notebook and a pile of
all these half used journals that I swear I'm going
to get back to and I never do. And if
you're like me and this lie hits home, we need
to challenge ourselves to not buy any new notebooks until

(19:18):
we finish the notebook that we currently have. Right now,
for some reason, I am literally journaling in two different notebooks.
I have no idea why. Actually three, because I have
my Gratitude journal that I also work through. So yeah,
three different journals for me right now. Some days, I
guess it's just whichever one is closest to me, depending
on if I'm journaling in my room or the living room.

(19:40):
And I need to stick with one at a time
and resist from buying a new one. So repeat after me.
A new notebook will not solve all of my problems.
I do not need to buy another one. I need
to stick with one journal at a time. Lie number three.
I need to buy some top tier professional gear because

(20:00):
this hobby will stay in my life forever.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
We're gonna do it live We oh the one?

Speaker 15 (20:07):
Two?

Speaker 8 (20:08):
Three sore losers?

Speaker 1 (20:11):
What up?

Speaker 8 (20:12):
Everybody?

Speaker 16 (20:12):
I am lunchbox. I know the most about sports, so
I'll give you the sports facts my sports opinions because
I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.

Speaker 15 (20:21):
It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the North side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully
soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue.
Oh to be determined. Over to you, coach, And.

Speaker 16 (20:41):
Here's a clip from this week's episode of The Sore Losers.

Speaker 15 (20:46):
Talk to the executive in the water cooler room, the
guy that I also talked to at the Christmas party,
and he's the one that knew about Sore Losers, got it,
And I said, well, first of all, you just tell
me about Super Bowl Week. Colin Cowherd has a banger
of a party on Wednesday night in Nola.

Speaker 17 (21:04):
Yeah, man, he.

Speaker 15 (21:06):
Said, all of his shows are there, Volume Network, Boom, Cowherd,
Dan Patrick, everybody's gonna be on radio row for the
Super Bowl. Okay, he said, he's going down there smoothing.
So he's got the Dinners happy hours. A couple of
signatures dotting eyes crossing t's this is where the A

(21:29):
block segment comes in. I said, what is it going
to take to get the sore losers at the super Bowl?
And he hits me back with well, this year, it's
way too late.

Speaker 16 (21:44):
The super Bowl is a weekly all right, Great.

Speaker 15 (21:48):
So then I hit him back with another question.

Speaker 16 (21:51):
I'm glad, I'm glad we started the show with this. Guys. Hey, guys,
sorry you can't go to the super Bowl. All right,
that's what our listeners ei to know. Thanks for listening
to the sore Loser spot.

Speaker 15 (22:00):
And I said, what is it going to take to
get the sore losers in San fran Cisco for Super
Bowl sixty? Mother Pert? And he said it costs money,
So iHeart would have to pay a purse and then
we would be able to get on radio Row. So

(22:21):
he said, you'd have to ask the executive above him,
and if they okay it, that they are fine with
paying that amount of money, then we would be able
to have a booth on radio Row.

Speaker 16 (22:30):
So you're telling me all these radio shows that are
on Music Radio Row, whatever it's called, they pay money
to be there. They have to pay money to be
part of the super Bowl. I would think the super
Bowl wants them on there and invites them because it costs.
It gives them so much free advertising. All these people

(22:52):
and all these sponsors, because every celebrity there is hawking
some kind of product. Pola, Uh, here are you know?
I'm here this week on behalf of the window cleaner
of this and I'm here, Oh this week, I'm representing
Tide this week, you know what I mean, because we're
gonna change the Tide. Oh, this week we're doing a
smucker suckers.

Speaker 12 (23:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 16 (23:11):
I really love a smucker sucker before a big game.
I thought that was all the advertisers. That's why the
radio people are there. They're there for free. I didn't
know they had to pay to be there.

Speaker 15 (23:22):
He said he doesn't know the exact amount, but there
is a price, and it would be a year in
advanced things, So us asking him a week ahead of time. Obviously,
we can't go to Nola, but San Francisco could be
an option if we get the ball rolling and that
is a block material. The sore losers are going to
San freeing Cisco.

Speaker 16 (23:44):
Yeah, we might go to San Francisco on vacation. Hey,
we ain't going to Radio row. I'll guarant dang to you,
we are not going to Radio Row. So one year
from now when this comes back up, guys, just know
we are not gonna be in San Francisco. Do not
look for us on Radio Row. There is no chance
the company would pay the money for us to be

(24:05):
in San Francisco. That's all because hotel rooms are gonna
cost an arm and a leg, and you know what
they're gonna pay for us nothing. They're not gonna pay
the five thousand dollars to put us on Radio Row,
and they're not gonna pay the one hundred dollars a
night for a hotel room. We will not be in
San Francisco. That was the A segment. Congratulations.

Speaker 15 (24:24):
When was the last time you saw the full househouse?

Speaker 8 (24:26):
Mother?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Gurr?

Speaker 16 (24:28):
Uh, let's see what year was that that I go
to San Francisco.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (24:32):
I went on vacation to San Francisco and it's.

Speaker 15 (24:34):
Not San Francisco. It's Santa Claire a mother, gurr. Yeah,
you're right, because I did. I've been to a Giants game.

Speaker 16 (24:41):
It was a great stadium, beautiful it looked out at
McCovey Cove. That was a phenomenal stadium really well built.

Speaker 15 (24:48):
Can I tell you the South Beach story about Santa Clara?

Speaker 16 (24:50):
I would love to hear it.

Speaker 15 (24:52):
And was there anything else?

Speaker 16 (24:54):
Again? Still are you still good?

Speaker 15 (24:56):
He lives in Cincinnati, comes and visits. He came day
before after Christmas.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Watched it for.

Speaker 16 (25:01):
Cinnati Cincinnati's in Ohio.

Speaker 15 (25:06):
Inside joke, and I was thinking the executive He also
said that it's interesting because there is a lot of
different clients there, but they're getting pulled in every direction.
Of course, but he said he has the access so
he could get Like if we were down there and
we go, hey, man, can you get us in to
go see Colin Cowherd do a show? He could do that,
got the actual booth that costs money.

Speaker 16 (25:26):
Like, if we wanted to go see Colin Cowherd do
his show, could we have a moment with Colin cowhert
so he could tutor and mentor us.

Speaker 15 (25:33):
I didn't ask that, but he said he would be
able to get us access in the radio row. But
to have a booth is a step above him.

Speaker 17 (25:39):
Got it?

Speaker 15 (25:40):
And that leads me to this with South Beach dude.
So he used to work in la and he moved
around a lot with the hotel industry. He's still in
the hotel industry or is he very very extensive. He's
always worked in food and beverage. It's still he worked
at boutiques. He's worked at big hotels, smaller hotels, pandemic hit.
He said, that was rough because you had a bunch
of peop that we were able to live in the

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hotel for free, trashed it, were rude, didn't give him tips,
didn't pay well, there was nothing but complaints. That was
a tough time. That was probably the low point of
South Beach's life. But he did work at the Santa
Clara Hotel. I'm not going to specifically say which one,
and it's right. It's very close to the football stadium.
And they go, hey, you are our food and beverage guys.

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The South Beach doesn't care that I'm telling this story.
They said, you're our guy. And guess what the super
Bowl's coming in a year? He said, there were all
these meetings every Tuesday. There was a meeting about the
Super Bowl a year leading up to it. Man, and
this is a different one because this must have been
a super Bowl three years ago. Probably I have no
idea what we've had one.

Speaker 16 (26:41):
I gotta be honest with you. I don't really know
what you could name a super Bowl and I couldn't
tell you the location, but go ahead.

Speaker 15 (26:46):
So I want to say they've had one there. Unless
this is the one he was talking about all along,
it can't be. But they would have meetings Tuesday, super
Bowl guys. Here's the protocol. This is all the stuff
you have to learn. And he knew all the time
in the back of his head he was going to
find another job before the super Bowl, so he didn't
really care that they were building up to the super Bowl.

Speaker 16 (27:05):
Don't want to be there for the super Bowl?

Speaker 15 (27:06):
Well, he just knew was give me a headache and
a nightmare at his hotel. And so he said, Man,
I'm only going to be here for six d eight
months that super Bowl. I'll be well long gone before
that thing comes around. So they'd have these meetings, all right, Uh,
South Beach, how are you and your department? Is everything
all shored up and good to go for the super
Bowl eight months in advance? Oh yeah, we are good.
We have done training measures. I'm doing all kinds of

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orderings of things. I'm doing a lot of refurbishments, I'm
also getting a lot of replenishments for all of our products.
Everything will be all set.

Speaker 16 (27:34):
Twenty sixteen. They had it in Santa Clara.

Speaker 15 (27:36):
So then that was it. And he dude, he said
he didn't absolutely nothing for it, so he wasn't. He
was just chilling everybody. All the other departments. Oh man,
are you starting to get ready for the super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (27:47):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (27:47):
Yeah, yeah, we're doing so much. We're doing a lot.
South Beach was doing nothing and he's the whole head
of a department and he's just telling the executives, Oh,
we are good, I've got it all under control. Maybe
four months before the super Bowl, he goes, hey, I
so he used that hotel as a way to get
to a boutique hotel in San Diego. God, and it
looked awesome on his resume planning for the super Bowl

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and all that. And so then he goes, hey, I
got a new new job at a boutique in San Diego,
So I'm not going to be here to work my
department for the super Bowl. Just thought i'd let you
guys know that. And they go, what about the sixteen
months that we've been preparing for this? And you leave
us four months before the Super Bowl, so he left
him high and dry. So if you guys went to

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that Super Bowl, let me know, was the food and
beverage in the area.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Was it lacking hot?

Speaker 16 (28:35):
Was the hotels thing? I mean, did they have enough lemonade?
Because South Beach didn't order enough. He didn't have the
sheets in order.

Speaker 15 (28:42):
Because if you guys were at the bar sucking on
boot lights and they ran out, it was probably South
Beach's problem.

Speaker 16 (28:48):
Yeah, I'm living here him. Super Bowl fifty in San Francisco.
It was the Denver Broncos versus the Carolina Panthers. The
Broncos won twenty four to ten. Let's see was at
Levi Stadium. MVP was Von Miller, The referee was Cleat Bakerman.
Attendant seventy one thousand coin toss, Fred Belindakoff, Marcus Allen,

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Joe Montana, Jim Plunkett, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, halftime show
Coldplay featuring Beyonce, Bruno Mars, and Mark Runson. It doesn't
have anything about the hotel food.

Speaker 15 (29:24):
Guys, if you were at the hotel they ran out
of toilet paper, probably South Beach.

Speaker 16 (29:29):
He was at a boots seek in San Diego wiping
his ass with all that toilet paper had laughing at you.

Speaker 15 (29:34):
If you were in the bathroom real quick about to
run up to your room or maybe go to a
super Bowl after party, and you're trying to look for
a Jimmy because you and your girl are getting hot
and heavy, and they ran out of him in the bathroom.
Probably South Beach.

Speaker 16 (29:46):
Actually, I blame that on the bathroom attendant. He's supposed
to have more of those.

Speaker 15 (29:49):
Yeah, he was more than I would say he did.
Definitely did bar work. So if they ever ran while
you were in San Francisco, if they ran out of
a shot a drink, pina, a lot of my tie South.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Beach person.

Speaker 10 (30:34):
Feels man.

Speaker 8 (30:37):
You know.

Speaker 12 (30:38):
The funny thing about me doing this podcast is I
have enlisted pretty much all of my friends to come
on just about every episode, and this week is no different.
I'm bringing on one of my friends from college, Tory. Tory,
how are you feeling right now?

Speaker 18 (30:52):
I'm feeling better. I'm for getting suttled, ready to go.
I'm excited to talk to you. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 12 (30:58):
The whole purpose of this podcast is to share stories
of everyday people, and this is one of them. That
is inspiring and also difficult in a lot of ways.
So I have brought Tory on to share her story
as she kind of went into adulthood, Tory got diagnosed
with cancer. So Tory, I'm gonna let you take this away.

Speaker 18 (31:21):
I ended up really getting sick in March, dealing with
just like physical pain, not really being able to like
heal fully. I had a pretty bad cough, which I
chalked it up to having you know what I think
at that point, I was saying like struck throat or
something like that, and my lymp notes were just completely swollen.
And at one point, you know, my roommate and best

(31:43):
friend was asking me, like what is going on here?
And that's just kind of what led to me realizing like, okay,
I was probably gona get this checked out.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
Not to mention kind of the ball drop here.

Speaker 18 (31:54):
My myological mom died from So she died from non
Hodgkins and I actually Hopkins, but there is two different
blood cancers. Again, I'm not the one to go on
web md and figure out everything about my cancer. It
really wasn't my style. I just did what the doctor
has told me. My mom did pass from cancer in
nineteen ninety nine, so same blood cancer, but kind of

(32:17):
different styles. Not hodgkins Ism, a lot less curable even
even to date. Really, my cancer is one of the
most curable cancers, and actually the age range that I
got it is the most common.

Speaker 12 (32:34):
I'm joined right now by Simone Jisandi. She's a published
author and focus is on the education of holistic cancer
therapies and disease reversal and just natural health. And I'm
so excited to welcome you on, Simone.

Speaker 14 (32:49):
How are you, Morgan? Thank you so much for having
me on. I'm fantastic and I really can't wait for
our conversation. We always see all kinds of studies. There's
the studies of drink of wine it's.

Speaker 12 (33:00):
Good for your health, or don't drink alcohol that's bad
for your health, or this much or drink this kind.
There's everything out there. What's the situation with alcohol? So alcohol,
and of course, as you remember, back in the day,
and of course, my father, his primary cancer was lung cancer.
So back in the day, way back in the day,

(33:22):
doctors used to say that you should smoke, And of
course then we kind of came to see that.

Speaker 14 (33:27):
That was not really such great advice. And I know
that in the evolution of health, and of course, the
more studies we do and the more we're able to
actually even look at the figures that we see show
up in large populations. So now it's actually and doctor
Daniel Amman, who is one of the most important figures

(33:49):
in mental health, and he's the one that does a
lot of the brain scans he speaks at large So
no alcohol is actually safe and it's tied not only
to obesity, but a lot of cancer. There's a lot
of mental health issues, a lot of degenerative neurodegenerative diseases.
So I would not recommend, especially like when you look

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at it from what the nutritionist in me will look
at it and say, what is what are some of
the nutrients that show up in alcohol, And there isn't
that much, especially like when it comes to cancer, it's
a lot of sugar, zero nutrients. And if you were
to look at the nitty gritty, especially now, there are
a lot of additives, especially red wines are highly colored.

(34:33):
There's sulfites, there's tannins. There's just so much that is
of no value to the body that the body would
actually have to mitigate it really beats up deliver.

Speaker 13 (34:45):
It really beats up the brain.

Speaker 14 (34:47):
And you're not taking in anything that the body can
actually say, ooh that's really going to help me, like
absolutely in no way, shape or form. So I always
look at it through that lens if it's not going
to be a help. And of course in the health arena,
we all say like, you either feed.

Speaker 13 (35:04):
Health or you feed disease.

Speaker 14 (35:06):
So everything that you put into the body is going
to feed one of those. So which one does alcohol feed?

Speaker 18 (35:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (35:14):
Unfortunately, you know, it's always hind The hindsight is always
twenty twenty when you're looking back at Oh you know
now I see that, now I feel that. But you know,
we're thirty years down the road and this is where
we are. So hey, it's.

Speaker 19 (35:27):
Mike d And this week a movie Mike's Movie Podcast,
I gave my Oscar predictions. Kelsey joined me, she gave
me the category, she gave me the nominees, and I
went through listed who I think is gonna win, a
bunch of snubs and surprises. I also did a spoiler
free review of the three and a half hour movie
called The Brutalist, which is up for Best Picture, and
why I think it is worthy of that girthy run time.

(35:51):
But I'll play you just a little bit of this episode.
Now you gotta check out the full thing. Right now,
here's just a little bit of movie Mike's movie podcast.
Kick it off with the first category.

Speaker 13 (36:00):
We have Best Picture.

Speaker 17 (36:01):
Oh, the big Daddy.

Speaker 13 (36:03):
Please never say that again.

Speaker 17 (36:04):
It's the big Daddy category.

Speaker 13 (36:06):
I don't like that.

Speaker 17 (36:06):
Okay's the big one.

Speaker 13 (36:08):
Are you done?

Speaker 17 (36:09):
Yes, I've done? Now go ahead.

Speaker 13 (36:11):
We have Anora Wicked Conclave, Amelia Perez, Dune Part two,
The Brutalist, The Substance, a complete unknown. I'm still here
in Nickel Boys.

Speaker 19 (36:22):
The surprise here, I think is Amelia Perez, just because
I feel overall it has the most nominations. And I
watched that movie and I just didn't quite see what
made that movie Best Picture worthy.

Speaker 13 (36:33):
And I've seen clips on TikTok and that was I've
seen what I need to do.

Speaker 19 (36:37):
I will say the clips make it seem worse than
it is. The way I was exposed to it first
was everybody calling out Selena Gomez for her Spanish. It
was Henny Dibez, who is a great Mexican actor, one
of my mom's favorite actors and he was basically saying
that they should have had somebody who had more authentic
Spanish speaking.

Speaker 17 (36:54):
I didn't think it was that distracting.

Speaker 19 (36:56):
The problem was that she speaks such good English that
going back and forth between English and Spanish is very jarring.
I feel like to do that role you almost have
to play it a little bit closer because the character
is supposed to be fluent in Spanish from Mexico and
then also knows English, but her English is way too perfect,
almost like California English that I mean Selida Gomez speaks.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (37:18):
It was also hard for me to root.

Speaker 19 (37:20):
For the main character who was a bad person, because
what that movie is about, it's a drug lord, cartel
leader who wants to change their entire life, change their gender,
and then kind of it's like, can you change who
you are with? It was hard for me to see

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past the awful things that they did, and I think
it's because my parents are from Mexico. Every time they
go down there, their biggest fear is running into the cartel,
and I know how much that traumatizes people. It was
hard for me to have any sympathy towards that kind
of character, and I know the whole thing is supposed
to be redemption and she's doing good things.

Speaker 17 (37:58):
Later in life.

Speaker 19 (37:59):
But if you look back on the things that not
just her character particularly, but anybody in the cartel does,
it's like, is that forgivable?

Speaker 12 (38:05):
I wouldn't say it is forgivable?

Speaker 13 (38:07):
But is there a way to move forward and be
grateful that they're no longer doing those things and doing
good things now because the other path is just keep
doing bad things. True, I'm just playing Double's advocate here.

Speaker 17 (38:17):
That was hard for me.

Speaker 19 (38:18):
Aside from that, I thought it was a pretty decent
movie except for the singing. That's the part that was
just like this. If it didn't have that in there,
it would be a much stronger movie, and maybe it
would have moved me a little bit more. Maybe I
would have felt a little bit more for the character.
But it was all the musical aspects that I thought
they're only putting this in to make it feel different,
because aside from that, I don't know if it would
have stood out as much.

Speaker 17 (38:39):
So that is what I feel like is the surprise here.
Even though it had.

Speaker 19 (38:42):
The most nominations, I think the winner here. I'm gonna
go with the movie. I'm finally going to endorse. I'm
going with the Substance.

Speaker 17 (38:49):
I love that movie, and for a category.

Speaker 19 (38:54):
That doesn't have one movie that as soon as we
watch it, I thought that was Best Picture worthy. The
only movie even mentioned that in the review was when
I first reviewed The Substance back opening weekend. So that
is what I'm going with the winner here. I'm going
with my heart. The snubs no Challengers.

Speaker 13 (39:10):
It was pretty surprising.

Speaker 19 (39:11):
I thought overall Challengers would have had at least one
or two nomination, especially in Best Picture. I thought that
was a snub. A Real Pain didn't get a nomination
for Best Picture. That was my second pick to win.
I said, I wanted to be the Substance, and if
the Substance doesn't win, I want it to be a
real Pain. But now a Real Pain is not even nominated.
I also thought maybe d d would get nominated.

Speaker 13 (39:32):
So can I add a snub?

Speaker 8 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (39:34):
Sing Sing?

Speaker 19 (39:35):
Oh, yes, Sing Sing is not Best Picture. And there
are a lot of movies on here. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten movies. Yeah, I would have probably taken out a
complete Unknown.

Speaker 13 (39:46):
I think I'd have taken out Dune Part two, Dune parts.
I like to call it Snooze part two with the.

Speaker 17 (39:50):
Shallow Bay again.

Speaker 19 (39:52):
Yeah, it's rare for also sequels to get nominated. I
would have taken down both of the Timothy Shalloway movies,
Sorry to Me, put Sing Sing, and put Challengers in there,
just because I think those will be more definitive for
twenty twenty four, next category.

Speaker 13 (40:04):
Best Actor in a Leading Role if Adrian Brody, the Brutalist,
Coleman Domingo Sing Sing, Ray Fines, Conklive, Timothy Chalomey and
a complete unknown in Sebastian Stan in The Apprentice.

Speaker 19 (40:16):
Going through some surprises here. I'm surprised Sebastian Stan got
a nomination. Surprised snub. I would say Denzel for Gladiator two,
but can you just get nominated for being Denzel? I
thought his performance was the best character in that movie.

Speaker 13 (40:30):
They should just have like the Denzel Award, but I.

Speaker 19 (40:33):
Don't think it was Best Actor worthy. Now I'm gonna
do a process of elimination here on who I think
is gonna win. I think you take out Timothy Chalamey
and Sebastian Stan. Timothy Schallamey was good as Bob Dylan,
but there were times where I felt his performance was
a little bit weak and Timothy Shallo may kind of
shined through.

Speaker 13 (40:50):
It's very meta. It was like Timothy Schallamey being Timothy Shallamey,
and I.

Speaker 19 (40:53):
Could see that in there, and I think in a
great bio pick, you should not see that at all.
You should only see that character. So for that reason,
and I don't think he deserves it.

Speaker 13 (41:01):
I didn't go full Austin Butler.

Speaker 19 (41:03):
Yeah, he didn't fully embrace it, live in it for
that long. Sebashian Stan, I'm surprised he's even in the category.
I'm taking him off. Ray Fines was great.

Speaker 17 (41:10):
In Conclave is great, and everything he's he has such range.
I mean, he can do Voltimore and he can do Conclave.

Speaker 19 (41:18):
His performance was so powerful in this movie, and I
found myself really enjoying it.

Speaker 17 (41:23):
But I don't think he wins.

Speaker 13 (41:24):
Can I make a comparison there? He goes from the
dark lord to a man of the Lord.

Speaker 17 (41:27):
That is true. I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 13 (41:30):
That was a real singer.

Speaker 17 (41:31):
And then Covid Domingo is the one I want to win.

Speaker 8 (41:34):
I love bad.

Speaker 13 (41:37):
I am such a fan of his.

Speaker 19 (41:40):
I can visualize him going up there and giving his speech.

Speaker 17 (41:43):
I just love his voice. I could hear him just.

Speaker 13 (41:46):
He could read the phone book and I'd be like, cool,
let me listen.

Speaker 17 (41:48):
I would listen to his Chick fil a order.

Speaker 19 (41:50):
His voice is just like But I think it's easily
Adrian Brody, probably just.

Speaker 13 (41:54):
Because the movies three and a half hours long. I
feel like that guarantees you it's historical.

Speaker 19 (41:59):
He's won in the past, and I feel like putting
him against all these other performances, he is going to win.
I think that is an easy call. I would put
money that gold, that gold. I would put money that Yeah,
is going to take the gold home.

Speaker 13 (42:15):
That's what I'll try to say Adrian Brode, I said, Brody, Oh,
it sound like you put a little emphasis on Adrian Brode.

Speaker 19 (42:21):
I do have a hard time spelling Adrian. I never
want to spell it the way he spells it.

Speaker 13 (42:25):
It's kind of like gray g r A y g
R eu I.

Speaker 17 (42:29):
But for best actor and leading role, Adrian Brody.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
Adam Carroll, she's a queen talking and it was she's
getting really not afraid to face its episode soul just
there flow no one can do with Quid Carne is sound.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
For Carol, for all of you guys listening and watching,
I like to say Ian pretty much invented the inneagram.

Speaker 20 (43:08):
Oh gosh, that is that is such a gross overstatement. However, however,
I'm flattered. But trust me, I did not.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Well, I'll tell you what you did, and this is
what you did. And then you also have the Fix,
which is coming out.

Speaker 20 (43:21):
January twenty eighth.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
So in another ex so this will air on Monday
and it'll be coming out that Thursday.

Speaker 17 (43:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
So, Ian, you have this amazing ability to take systems.
It seems like to me like the enneagram, and the
Fix is based on the twelve steps of recovery, but
you put them into a form that breaks it down
that we can read and apply to ourselves so easily.

Speaker 12 (43:48):
Like I feel like you have.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
This gift of putting like the enneagram. I always knew
about the enneagram, but this book breaks it down. It
explains to you your inneagram number, which if y'all have
not done the enneagram, it is so worthwhile doing this
with your entire family and everyone you're close to, because
you learn, oh my gosh, like my dad's an eight,
I know how to deal with an eight now, because

(44:10):
an eight is what is it? What is an eight called?

Speaker 14 (44:13):
It's the the challenger.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
So their whole role is to go in and fight
and conquer and to like make moves and be intense.
And he's always been that way and that's his strength.
But if you don't realize that that is their personality trait,
you might, you could, you could, you could get a
little bit, you could be a little misunderstanding of how
they operate. Like my mom's a peacemaker, she's a number one,

(44:36):
and my sister, oh yeah, she's a number nine.

Speaker 12 (44:38):
My sister's number one. She's a perfectionist.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
And so I also realized, uh, I think I was
reading No, I was refreshing on the.

Speaker 12 (44:45):
Road back to you. They all act out of anger.
That's their their their riold goes.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
To anger, and I'm a four, I'm a is it
the romantic? So I'm just lost in the middle of feelings.
So I've always just been overwhelmed with my feelings, internalizing
everyone and always feeling like I wasn't enough or worthy,
and I've just when you actually get it in a
book and you put it all together, you're like, oh
my god, this is why this all makes perfect sense. Yeah,

(45:13):
and you don't feel crazy and you actually can understand
all the people that you love so much, so much better.

Speaker 13 (45:18):
It's just such a tool.

Speaker 20 (45:20):
Yeah, it's really useful. It gives people a glimpse into
the interior worlds of other people. What are their core motivations,
what are their fears, what are their predictable patterns of acting, thinking,
and feeling. And it also gives each type of growth

(45:40):
path right because every type has some really beautiful parts
and they also have some shadow.

Speaker 17 (45:46):
Parts every part. No one's exempt, No one's exempt.

Speaker 20 (45:49):
Like I have a friend of mine who likes to say,
if you want to, if what you're looking for is compliments,
don't play with the enneagram. Like the enneagram is going
to show you in this dark clarity with in high
depth things about you that you will love and go
oh oh, cringe, cringe. So I mean again, that's what
we need, those is we need those kinds of tools

(46:13):
that aid us in examining ourselves and working to become
the best expression of ourselves.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
How did you get We're gonna move to the fix
Because of the Fix? I think I love the Twelve Steps.
I was in a band with one of my former
bandmates was in the twelve Step program, and so I
used to go with her to meetings all the time
on the road when I was like in my twenties
and thirties, and I was like, man, I used to
think to myself, like I need this.

Speaker 16 (46:39):
Yes, and I yes, you do.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
But I didn't necessarily suffer or like feel like I
had a true addiction. Although now that I examined my life,
I was never great with alcohol, but I'm like, I
didn't feel like I had this like blatant, like alcohol
or drug issue that would take me to the Twelve Steps.

Speaker 13 (46:55):
But when I would go with.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Her, I was like, man, I need I need this,
and this is what fixes. It's saying we all need
the twelve Steps. It's actually the formula to freeing ourselves
from our own imprisonment our past traumas. I love that
you say that you have some great quotes that I
want to like talk about from the books.

Speaker 13 (47:12):
Because you just summon it up so much.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
I'll stay one of them. Like here you said, we're
blasted into the furnace of life without adequate psychological defenses
to fend off the unavoidable traumas, hurtful messages and emotional
energy injuries we all sustain in childhood. We then load
these burdens into our little red radio flyer wagons and

(47:35):
unconsciously pull them behind us into adulthood. Unfortunately, no one
tells us how to heal these wounds. So in adulthood
we end up developing chemical addictions, behavioral behavioral addictions, or
recurrent self defeating behaviors to cope with our disease. That
is just it it.

Speaker 16 (47:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (47:54):
So part of the premise of the book is, you know,
the Twelve Steps were developed ninety years ago roughly by
a guy named Bill w And up until that point,
people who were alcoholics were just deemed hopeless.

Speaker 16 (48:10):
There was no solution to that.

Speaker 20 (48:12):
Problem, right, no solution. And he introduced these steps to
you know, his some fellow alcoholics, and they began to
see remarkable transformation, people being freed from the entanglement of
their addictions. Right now, fast forward ninety years and people
think about the twelve Steps. Oh, it's for those people, right,

(48:34):
And isn't it nice those people have the twelve Steps.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
I don't have to worry about it, and I don't
have any addictions.

Speaker 20 (48:39):
Yeah, And look, here's my point I mean I'm speaking
as a therapist, right, everybody is an addict. Like, so,
an addiction is any compulsive relationship that you have with
a substance, a behavior, or a person that has mood

(48:59):
alluring effects and negative consequences that you just keep doing
despite how it's affecting your well being.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
And you know it's not helping you, but you're like, eh, whatever.

Speaker 20 (49:09):
I'm just going to go one more time.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
We don't.

Speaker 20 (49:11):
Yeah, right, So when I talk about addictions, so when
you think about that as a definition, who can't cop
to that? Everybody?

Speaker 13 (49:17):
Everyone?

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Right?

Speaker 13 (49:18):
All right?

Speaker 20 (49:19):
So when we talk about addictions, I'm talking about codependency,
not just alcoholism, drug addiction, overeating, sports, betting people, people
pleasing perfectionism.

Speaker 13 (49:31):
You know, uh, you wrote a whole list of them.

Speaker 16 (49:35):
I've got about that long.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
That is it was so comical because it's literally every
It's not comical because it's true.

Speaker 16 (49:41):
Oh yeah, social media?

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Oh who's not addicted to social technology?

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Right? And what is that?

Speaker 7 (49:47):
That is?

Speaker 20 (49:48):
Look, human beings carry with them a fundamental big ache, right.

Speaker 12 (49:53):
I love that that comes out.

Speaker 20 (49:54):
I mean it's always with us.

Speaker 12 (49:56):
I felt my big ache yesterday.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
I called a friend and I was like, I don't
know why I'm need to ball, but I just do.
And I don't have a particular reason. I just am homesick.

Speaker 12 (50:07):
Yeah for nothing.

Speaker 20 (50:09):
Okay, so beautiful. And what ends up happening is we
find some external solution workaholism to fix that pain, to
solve the internal problem right, and then then eventually what
happens is is that our solution causes more problems than

(50:32):
the problem that it was trying to solve.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Thanks for listening to this week's Sunday Sampler. New episodes
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Speaker 17 (51:01):
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