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August 5, 2022 40 mins

Interview w/ Saucy Santana  on the Bootleg Kev Podcast.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But let Cavs show. We got a special guest in here,
fresh from Rolling Loud weekend. I saw you on stage
doing your thing, you know what I'm saying, Saucy Santana's
in the building. What is going on outside? Never inside?
You are outside for sure. I see you everywhere. Yeah, well,
congrats on the Freshman cover. Thank you. That's dope. I

(00:21):
like to do it. Yeah, salute to that. You know
what I'm saying, breaking down barriers, you know what I mean,
that's a big deal. Yeah. Do you feel like the
homophobian hip hop's starting to fade away a little bit? Yeah?
I feel like gay is regular, like kind of like
now even when you watch your when you watch TV,
gays everywhere. It's almost on every TV show is something gay,
every everything that you like, you know what I'm saying.

(00:44):
It's just like it's becoming normal. It's becoming normal. So
I think people are just kind of like it is
what it is. Yeah. I've got into arguments with people
who are like, you know, you know, shout out to
a guy like Boozie who's obviously says some offensive things
at times. But I feel like, you know, there's like
this misconception that like watching a buzz light Year and

(01:06):
they're being the same sex kiss can make kids gay,
And I'm like, yo, this is like people are born
this way. This isn't like something like forty five years
in the life. You just decide. Man, I've been watching
a lot of Will and Grace, So I'm gonna go
dip my toe into that part. Like how do you
feel about like just that. I don't think that. I
don't necessarily think that watching that kind of stuff. I mean,

(01:27):
you know, for me, I feel like kids are sensitive.
So I get the argument of it because there's certain
things that I don't let my little sister watching, certain things.
I don't let my god kids, you know, be up.
You wouldn't, but you also wouldn't let them watch like
straight people like doing crazy shit. You're not gonna You're
not gonna watch no adult movies or you're not gonna
watch you know what I'm saying, you know, people having

(01:48):
sex on TV, like it's everything. I'm just gonna I'm
gonna censor you as a child. I'm not gonna necessarily
make it about you know, sex, I even or you know,
gay things on the tab. I even have a lot
of cousins, Like I grew up with a lot of
my cousins that are my age. We grew up like
brothers and sister. So I called their sons my nephews.

(02:08):
They my nephews. They see me nails, lashes, perse all that,
and they like, you know, of course, okay, he's different,
but you know, I'm still outside of him. We're playing football,
I'm still you know what I'm saying, were playing baseball.
I'm like, hey, you know, you're a boy. You don't
do that, like you know what I'm saying. So it's
just like that don't just because they see me, that
don't mean like, oh, you know, Uncle Santana got nails on,

(02:30):
That's what I'm gonna do. You're still a boy. You're
still doing your own thing. So you can't really try
to pin that on kids like oh they're seeing this,
that's what they're gonna do. Right. How old were you
when you came out? Seventeen seventeen, so that's pretty like
deep into high school years. Yep, seventeen, I was a
junior junior high school. Was it like pretty evident that

(02:52):
you were like yeah, you know what I mean? I mean, like,
you know, you kind of see that growing up and
different things like that. But just as seventeen, I was like, man,
I'm beIN. I graduate high school at seventeenes so I
was like, man, graduate so you were super smart, I'm outside. Yeah,
you were getting a head on credits. Well, no, my
birthday is in October. Oh you had one of those
weird birthday. Yeah, we're birthdays. So I was seventeen. Everybody
was eighteen when we graduated. I couldn't even go to

(03:13):
the club. Yeah, there was eighteen up clubs in Florida.
Gotta be crazy, man, Nothing like a Florida strip club.
Nothing like it. The office, oh my god in Miami.
Great place, small place, but a great place, great place.
It's a great place. They got good food there too,
not as good as Toutsies. Well what you know about
that lobster tail with the seafood, right, Yes, that was

(03:33):
a big thing. That was what tuty was was no
for people, not really that messed up about it, that
fucked up about it no more. But that was the
big thing to get that sees also like lightweight Tootsies
is a brothel. You know what I'm saying. It's you
got to catch a vibe if you want to see
you can go to Totis ketch a vibe, have some
good food, get a massage, and also maybe catch a virus.

(03:53):
Yeah for sure. Yeah, there's a lot going on right
now with fucking monkey pox. See the video of the
sky on the internet with monkey pox. Nah, but I
have been hearing a lot about monkey pox, so I
just be like, eh, I be keeping my di's like
move Yeah, I see what I mean. But they like
it's offensive to touch people right now. Yeah, I don't know,
it's it's it's wild. I mean, but you know, I
feel like you just got off the tour with Lotto

(04:14):
not too long ago. You've been doing some festivals obviously
rolling aloud. It's a big look like are you finally
you feel like you're kind of coming into your own
as a performer. Uh yeah. Performer for me was always easy.
That was the easiest shit to do, you know, on
the stage, to turn the fuck up. Yeah. So ever
since I speak, like, you know, started getting popping and
started booking shows and stuff like that, performer was easy.

(04:35):
I think I'm coming more into a performer now because
now I don't do clubs, I do a lot of festivals, right,
I do a lot of big productions. I about to
do Jimmy Fally so huge. It's huge. So it's like
it's different from in the club rapping like fufflot songs
right click, and now you got to have dancers and
everybody got to hit the steps at the same time.
And you gotta. I went from having to entertain a

(04:56):
thousand people in the club to have a roll in loud,
got a you know, and it's hey, thirty thousand people
on the crowd. You're like, it's okay. And you're also
entertaining a bunch of people who like just saw you
for the first time. You got it, you know, you gotta,
you gotta. So it's like you really got to put
on a show because I always wanted even the people
that didn't know me to go home, like who is that?
I like him? This Booty record with Loto is this

(05:17):
record you guys did on tour before tour after tour.
Boody was at the tour after tour, so you guys
kind of linked up on the tour I'm assuming became
friends refriends prior no friends prie me and a lot
of in for instance, nineteen twenty nineteen first out of
Oh Shit, Okay, we were signed to the same label,
stream Cut, it was an independent label, was signed on
it together, and then she went to RCA and now

(05:39):
I'm RCA two, so you're both label mates again. Yep,
there it is. So did you like come up in
the like rap scene in Florida or did you have
to go to Atlanta? My shit just went viral after
I Ready to Walking Back a Dog's Your Love for
twenty nineteen on SoundCloud. They did a million plays in
seven days and it was over shit my life changed.

(05:59):
I was just did did you say when you did
that record you would like had any intention to take
music serious? No? Never. I never dreamed of being a rapper.
I never wrote poems. I never did none of that.
Ship my dad used to write when I was a kid,
but I always even going through high school, all of
my friends used to rap, like my home was in
high school to rap, I used always be like, get
out of here, like you're not going to be a rapper.
You gotta be a little way in to fucking drinking.
Somebody happened like that. There's nobody who like looked like

(06:21):
you was doing it, So be fair. I also think
you're the first person I know Little nas X is gay. Yeah,
but I feel like you're like flamboyant, yes, in a
different way. Is that Is that appropriate to say? Yes? Yeah,
it's cool because you know when Lana's when we first
met Lil Nina's, you know, he was he we didn't
know he was Yeah, we didn't know he was just

(06:42):
he just had the fucking cowboy record. Yeah, I'm saying
I think I'm the first one that came out like
you know, what you see is what you get. You
already know what time it is, you know when you
see me. And to be able to have amount of
success that I have being like that, you know, it's new,
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(08:30):
what are your groupies? Like I got, I got like weirdos,
I got uh different niggas trying to talk to me.
You got a girl just say I'm pregnant. She's pregnant
with my baby? Like wow, a girl said that. Yeah,
she was like I seen some like blogs ship like

(08:51):
some girl says, I'm she pregnant with my kid? Did
you ever? Did you ever dabble in females? Did you
ever sleep with a woman? I'm all, like high school,
so in high school, you're banging. I had friends, So
I only ever had sex with like one girl, like
ever in my life. Okay, just to be like, let
me try and just to see you give it a shot.
Maybe I'm tripping, yeah, like let me see it was

(09:13):
it was right though, it was cool. It was fun.
It was fun, but it wasn't fun enough for you
to keep going down there, to keep going with it
was like okay, like you know what I'm saying. I
could I see I see what you got going on?
You know what I'm saying. That's another Macaroni fan. This
was in high school. Yeah, I was out high school already.

(09:34):
I was out of high school. Shout out to you, damn.
I feel like, you know, I feel like we're kind
of getting to the point where, like, you know, I
feel fifteen twenty years from I just like everyone's gonna
be fucking everybody, Like, yeah, I feel like it's going there. Yeah,
I know mad gay boys that that was like fucking girls.
I know mad like a lot of a lot of
niggas that I talked to, like got kids from like

(09:54):
you know, previous relationship being in high school and still
being down out and still fucking girls. That kind of like,
you know, hey, I'm not gay, like so I don't
talk I don't talk to a few niggas. They got kids.
That's interesting. They kids be like nineteen years old, like
they was fucking you know, girls in high school, girls
get pregnant. Niggas got kids. How do you feel like,

(10:17):
because I feel like we've we've had a couple of
teaching moments in the last year in terms of just
like you know, what happened with the baby last year?
Runing loud like I feel like, uh, sometimes we're very
quick to like shit on somebody as opposed to like
trying to like teach them this new cancel culture. Cancel
culture bullshit. It's like trolling is a trend now. So

(10:40):
now the world is different. Back then you had to
like like you wasn't making no blogs, like we had
to reach it in magazines or you know what I'm saying,
or space. It was hard. Now now you'll get on
in there and customing on. I cut yours back out
on a shape run in three seconds and three seconds.
Or you can tweet my picture and say something, say

(11:01):
something some dumb shit or some vibral shit. They go
viral you all over the blog. So now people feeling like,
you know what I'm saying, Not to say that fans
are less damn, but it just feel like they're important.
Like so they like, oh witch, I know I can.
Everyone feel like they got an opinion. That's yeah, And
y'all feel like y'all got leverage. Like people like to
feel like they got you by the boss, like oh
you said this, say sorry an listen to your music
no more. You can't never come back outside like suck

(11:23):
a dick, Like are y'all talking about literally literally like
you know, it's like because people are not doing things
now because they actually care. People are doing things now
because like because they're gonna get attention. They're gonna get attention.
Like I got the top comment or oh one hundred
people said it down like it's blue hat, So we
don't fuck with the blue hat because hudred people said
in the comments, we're just gonna being waggoners. I just

(11:43):
feel like with a lot of the cancel culture shit,
like just in general, like most of the time, it's
like a very small amount of people who are on Twitter,
dumb people. Like when you meet people in real life,
I suld a god, I just said this. It's like, Yo,
most real people don't give a fuck about said this,
just said this. That's all minority. Who are I'm saying
the cancel culture is in a motherfucking comments. It's in

(12:06):
the internet where you meet people in real life, I'd
be like, well, where is all the motherfuckers that hate
because people they try to come at you fro tweets. Yeah,
they just crazy. They do that to everything, everybody, everybody,
And it's like my thing is my thing is. I'm
not a I'm a realistic person. I'm not a fake
wote person like everybody now is like, oh my god,
I can't believe you said this in twenty eleven. Bro,

(12:29):
if you wasn't famous, If the same people that's finding
our old sweets, if they wasn't famous, let's go in
YO two and see what the fuck was you saying? Also,
what are you doing with your life where you're digging
through someone's timeline back to do it? They do it
when you were about to reach like some type of
accomplishment or something. And that's how I said. People now

(12:49):
know that I could go dig up a tweet and
I could make this go viral, and I could have
you being in a laugh and stock or the talk
of the whole world right now because we people it's
set up to now where like bitch has got you
by the balls, like, oh, I can go find his
old tweets saying he's gonna get canceled and we're gonna
and he's gonna have to sit down and apologize. They

(13:12):
feel like they got some kind of power over you now.
So it's not even people's drugs. It's like they get
a dopamine hit. Yeah, when they come for people and
it works, and it works, and it's like, but you
know you have so many people in the world, like, Bro,
somebody said shit ten years ago. That's why I loved
that Cardi B. Suit. I mean, listen, I don't know
that blogger, you know what I'm saying, But I love
the fact that Cardi B won that lawsuit. Yeah, because

(13:35):
that blogger was saying some funck shit. Yeah, and it's like, yo,
hopefully this kind of helps correct and people. You know,
people believe love the negative narrative of things. That's what's best,
that's what's more better or fun to believe in them.
So when you're saying wow, shit about people or like,
you know what I'm saying, Even when people are digging
up these old tweets and we do these pr apologies

(13:59):
that would make you do guess what, the people still say,
fuck you don't believe you. Of course, oh we don't
care you. You said that, you meant it, so just
be like whatever. But I go through comments and I
see those people, the logical people. That really is like, bro,
somebody said some ship ten years ago. Who gives ten
years ago was well, you had to have a viral

(14:21):
tweet were also ten years ago? Getting canceled wasn't a thing.
It was like I'm gonna just say some ill shit
you got. You got on Twitter and talked ship, you
got on Twitter, you watched award shows or you watch
whatever the fuck, and you've just said wow, crazy shit
because back then you really had to have a good tweet.
Well you know what I mean. It works crazy too,
because they just tried to do that with Glowrilla, and

(14:42):
I was like, yo, like she just signed a crazy deal.
And I told you, whenever you do an accomplishment, they come,
they come like, oh you don't even like, I'm like,
so what ten years ago she probably didn't. Who gives
a fuck? She didn't know yo got it? She did.
She was a music humor voicing her opinion, voice her opinion,

(15:02):
and then five under. But you know what will be
so crazy about them old tweets. They will only dig
up the negative ones. Ten years ago she probably could
have said fuck yo gotty. And then seven years later
she probably could have said, YO, gotta the hardest wrapping
out right now. But they're not gonna show you that part.
They gonna show you that. Ay, she said fuck yo
got it ten years ago, and it's crazy. Me. I
gotta ask you a question. I use pause a lot.

(15:24):
Do you know what that means? Yeah, because it is
that homophobic. No, okay, not to me, Okay, I gotta
ask now my guys like, yo, man, yo, I need
an extra meat on my sandwich. I just want to
make sure, fus, it's not It's not just one thing
about gays. Gays are sometimes we're extra sensitive because you know,

(15:45):
just how we're looked at a lot of stuff. You know,
gays are kind of you know, throw it to the
wayside a considered you know, bottom of the barrel of things,
or you know, even when we dealer with you know, men,
we consider like you know, soft or you know, different
things like that. Gas is always on the defense. But
that's not that's not to me, that's not that's not offensive.

(16:06):
That's not offensive. No, got to make sure, man, you
calling me something crazy outside my name is offensive. But
the pause pause, that's cool. It's cool, okay, But you
gotta make sure because I'll be pausing a lot now.
I mean I say that like I want to ask you.
I'm like, yo, that's me and my brother trade Me
and my brother trade tracks. My producer. Like if I
would have been like, I want extra, he would have

(16:27):
been like hey yo, Like that's our pause, Like hey
what or I could be like with my nigga son
and my nigga like put his arm around my show.
My brother gonna be like hey yo, Like that's how
I pause. So now that's not you're taking. Yeah, currently
currently relationship? How long you been in a relationship? My
nigga actually just spent the block stuff. He just spent

(16:50):
the block. He just spent the block. What's that mean?
I mean, I know what's spending the block means, but
like in context true relationship, well, you know, we we
what's in a relationship last year, you know, and he
came back around hot, right back in the car. Oh
shout out to him, and you came back in yeah, absolute,
I mean you know yeah, I mean maybe he's all age.

(17:10):
I almost just shereed you. I'm sorry, Jesus christ. Uh,
you're on the freshman cover. Things are going well, maybe
I need to come back around before they get the
reason why I really fucked him though, because he ain't
he like you know what I'm saying. Of course he
was his accomplishment stuff, but like he just really a
real nigga like that that don't that don't make or
break me his relationship, like you know what I'm saying,
and I'm I'm I'm very observant, so I watched things

(17:32):
like that, like you gotta watch my niggas. That's like,
oh yeah, he lit, like damn he more lit than
last year. Like like that nigga ask you know nothing
from me? Like you know he a good dude. What's
what is a romantic gesture that that you have in
your pocket? Like like give me like a romantic gesture
that you you go to in a relationship. He says,

(17:53):
I'm not. I'm not really Like when my wife out
by her flowers, it'll be like eleven roses and it
totally stole us from the internet and one white rose
in the middle, and I'll leave her letter and I'll
be like, you represent the right white rose because everybody else.
What's that? It's so funny. He says that I'm not romantic.
He's more of a romantic one. Like that niggas brought
me two thousand dollars worth of flowers and I was mad,

(18:14):
ash like that's a lot of flowers. Yes, but like
I'd be mad too if my girl I'd be like
many we could have bought. I could have got a
now pair shows, I could have got four thousand tacos
from Jack in the box. So he mad romantic. Me
I'm more thoughtful. So like his dad passed when he
was a kid, and uh it just the anniversary of

(18:35):
the death had came up, and so I had just
like samm and Alpan, I was like, hey, go get
some flowers and balloons, you know, to take to the
gray Field dead. Oh wow, So I'm thoughtful. I think
I'm romantic. I'm not really romantic, like I'm thought I'm thoughtful. Yo.
Who like growing up listening to music? Who was like
on your music? Mount Rushmore? Gucci, Man, that's my favorite rapper, Gucci.

(18:56):
Gucci is probably the most I mean arguably most influential
guy best A and R and hip hop history. He's
got the best of year I think. Ever, So Gucci
means on there you got three more swats to fill.
Trina shout out to the battlest bitch Jackie Yo. Jackieyo
does not get enough love. They don't jam. I lived
in Tampa for a few years, but I'm from Phoenix.

(19:16):
But I know Jackie Oh yeah, because I would say
Jackie Oo is a Florida thing, Yo, jack Jackie Yo,
and two more Uh Nicki Minaj once you know we
got in high school, Nikki had all us acting like barbies,
especially with me, and were you kind of a barbe?
Of course? Well I made I had to. I was
still like in high school. I was still like in

(19:37):
a closet. So I made all of my homegirls, like
everybody had a dress like Nikki and I thoughted as
a group, we was called Ken and the Dolls. I
was kidding, they was the dolls. So you made them
all dressed like how you kind of wanted to dress. Yeah,
I'm living through y'all. So you gotta get the Nicki
Minaj bang with the black and pink hair like. I
made all of them dressed like barbiees Shi. It was
so funny. Are you still a barb? Yeah? Okay, I

(19:58):
love Nikki? Still a barb? Who else I listened to
growing up? You know? One more we got Nikki Jackie,
oh and uh and Gucci? Those are those are? That's
three good ones? Future Future Future the greatest club artists
of all time. I remember when Future one thing I
love about Gucci Gucci brought out Future Migos all the

(20:22):
niggas like all the all them walker, all them down
listening to Gucci was throwing them on features way back
in the days when we didn't even know who they was.
People don't know like even like somebody like the Migos,
like he could have signed them if you want to, Yes, Gucci,
That's how I got introduced to the Migos. I remember
they I was being sounds with Gucci. Yeah, are you
currently like in Atlanta? You still in Florida? Were you

(20:43):
at live in Atlanta? How is Atlanta? Like? I've been there?
I love it there by the way, It's great Atlanta.
I went during the pandemic and it was, you know,
from one man, I loved by Atlanta. We ain't we
ain't do We didn't believe in the pandemic exactly. That's
why I liked it. Everybody can Atlanta cover And then
went back home because I've been I've been in there.
I was. I was in l A going crazy and
we went to Atlanta for like a week and I
was like, this is this is different Atlana was everything

(21:06):
was up in the Script club everything, no masks, no
nothing like we was outside. It was so funny. I
was like, oh my God, this is the only place
in the world that's outside. It was amazing. It was
lit Atlanta. But you know, I feel like I growed
Atlanta a living I'm finn to move to La. La.
Will be prepared if a pandemic comes back. Your ass
is gonna be mashed up. Oh trust me. Don't think

(21:28):
I ain't keeping my crib in Atlanta. I'll be gone.
So you might be moving to La. Everyone moves to La. Yeah,
I'm gonna come out here. I got a lot of
work care you know. I traveled with a big team,
my security go everywhere with me. You know, my road manager,
my out of manager, my my brother who is my
DJ and producer I can't remember. It's like I got
a crew. That's a lot. Yeah, so that's a lot.

(21:49):
You know, your dancers all that. So it's a lot
bringing everybody with you, getting all these different hotels and
l you know, it'd be like a lot of It's
a lot of opportunity, that tip of Like when I
first went to Atlanta, it was opportunity to me at
the artist I was there. Now now all of my
opportunities are here, and you know, you broke I feel
like you broke through, and I feel like once you
break through, like you at least got to be in

(22:10):
l a little bit more. Yeah, you got to cause
you know, stuff is sparta moment here, so you might
have somebody hit you and be like yo man on
the studio, she said, I pull up. I'm like, oh,
I could be the first thing in the morning. I
I gotta fly out to Sauni Arabia. Literally when I
tell every artist that's like. I got an artist who's
from who lives in Missouri and he was in LA

(22:32):
for a little bit, but he couldn't afford to stay
out here. And I was like, figure it out because
there's opportunities like that pop up last minute. Yes, you're
gonna be fucked out of those. You're going to be
because like right now, you want to vibe people and
being a vibe in a moment. And then they got
Mike got a flight the next day, and it's like,
all right, I'm gonna spend a block on you. Yeah,
but it never ever happens. I swear to god, Nikki
DM me one time and was like you in l A.

(22:54):
I was like, no, I'm in Atlanta, but I could come.
I could get there, and she was like, Okay, I'm like, dang,
I want to watch she asked me because she lives here. Yeah,
she lived here, so but I know that. So I'm like, damn,
I want to watch Nikki DM. Yeah, so did you
get I would have been like I'm in LA. I wasn't, though,
so I could lie like fuck Dad, I'd be like,
where's the airport? Take me to the airport. Yeah, but

(23:14):
it's like now saying and now I say, man, and
she like pull up. Now. It's like I'll be there
in four and a half hours. We gotta figure that
ship out. Yeah. So it was like I was like, dang, okay,
what you gotta do is when you finally get your house,
go back to the d MS and say, hey, heads up,
I live here now, I live here a shower, and
then just send her this clip. Yeah you say you're

(23:36):
a bar and you had a whole rap group? Nick? No, no, no, no,
you know, but me and Nikki follow each other. Me, Nick,
does she know that you had the high school group? Yes? Nikki?
Like Nikki now every kid and the dolls? Yes, Nikki. No,
like me, and Nikki is like this like she's the goat,
She's the greatest female rapper of all time. Yeah, for
shout tell me. Obviously we're in La West. Hollywood is
a popping gay area. The clubs there are insane. If

(23:58):
you like drive in that area. It's like, it's trust me,
I've seen that. I had to perform at we Help right,
how was it? It was it? What's the what's the better?
See partying gay clubs here Atlanta? I feel like they're
way different Atlanta. But I'm not really heavy in gay
clubs like party scene. I like strip clubs. Youd rather

(24:19):
go to the strip club? Yes, I love Cheetahs. Cheetahs
out here. Chesus is solid. It is a good cheatas Yeah,
ball at Cheetahs male strip club Now they're probably gross, right, Yeah,
I don't like that. I like I like BBS. You
like the BBLS. Nice shout out to the BBLS. I feel. Yo.

(24:40):
I was in the Dominican Republic and we're flying back
and there was at least four women on the plane
that were like on wheelchairs. Uh huh going over there
to get that body snatched up? I said, ship, I said,
at least hang out out here for like a week
and and and let the swelling go down, No baby
gone our dudes, bbls. I just saw a band mode

(25:02):
bandman Kevo got his body done. Dudes, get well, gay
boys get bbls now. Dudes, you're timmy gay guys to
get the fake ass. Yeah you've seen this. I got one.
You got a BBL Your cheeks are? Is there a
fat reassignment? What is going on? They just take it.
They just take it from your stomach and your waist
and just put it in the bad put your ass

(25:23):
and hips. So you got the BBO popping? Where'd you
go to get it done? Showski Miami? Was it painful? Nah? Wow,
it's not. It's really not. Like you just wake up.
You kind of store a little bit and then like
you can't sit out of your butt for like four
to six weeks. I broke my tailbone when I was
in elementary school and I had to sit on a donut.
Uh huh. Yeah, that's saying they eat like a little

(25:45):
you get like a little donut or they get like
a little a little thing that's like you could sit,
but your butt doesn't sit on the seat whenever you're
sitting down. Well, yeah, I saw you torking on stage.
Uh unapologetically as you should at rolling out. Uh huh.
And I was like, shit, man, dudes got cheeks. Pause,
you know what I mean, dude's got some cheeks. So

(26:06):
so at least we know now that you went and
got them things situated. Uho for show. But most men
like surgery is so normal now. Of course they just
going to get abs and getting a fat sup down
and all kinds of stuff. For sure. I just saw.
You know, we do a radio show every day, so
obviously you know the Hollywood and locks and shade rooms,

(26:28):
there's this there's like a dick surgery now where you
can get your dick extended for real. Yeah. I can't
even imagine how crazy it was. Do remember they had
the dick pump? Oh yeah, yeah, that's from like the
nineties for real. My uncle had one. I tried one. Yeah,
I had one. How does it work? When I was
like nineteen, when me and my baby mama went to

(26:48):
the porn store for the first time, I was like,
let me try this thing. Let me tell you doesn't
really wurk. I mean for a second. Oh shit, that's crazy.
It's like it just sucks your dick pause, like you
like pump it you like pump it and then like

(27:09):
your dick gets bigger in this tube and then like
you take it all. It's not comfortable. But I only
did it once I was a kid. Yeah, yeah, definitely not.
I wouldn't suggest that. I wouldn't suggest getting this done,
getting the surgery. That. How about you just you got
what you got, what you got, work what you what
you got? For sure? The size matter not to me,

(27:30):
not to you. There it is, I don't know, you
know your perspective. Some ladies would say it doesn't matter. Yeah,
it's got the emtional you're on Miami would say. She
would say it matters. She's dating Diddy ish Yeah, it's no,
it's really she really does. She does date him. She's

(27:52):
got a great show. I love her new show is
so good. Yeah, that confirmed that, you know on the
show that that they we I saw that, and then
I just started twirking on quabo at Rolling Loud Entertainers.
We rappers for sure, and we outside. So just as
you're dating somebody, like you know what I'm saying, they
not married. They already said I'm dating this president, I'm

(28:13):
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(28:36):
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(28:57):
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you had any famous guys slide in your dms? Like
on the low Ski Broski Like, uh yeah, but I
don't get into that. No, you're not going to tell

(29:18):
us who it is. I wouldn't expect you to do that.
That's just people business. But hell yeah, niggas is yeah
all of time. That's I mean. Man, listen, you're a
very successful artist. The music is dope, the booty record
is going up. You haven't dropped an album in a
couple of years, so when is is this album? So?
So yeah, that's what we right now. We're in a
creative process. I'm figuring out you know what I'm saying. Like,
you know, I have a lot of new fans now,

(29:39):
so I want to you know, explore new styles and stuff,
you know, reaching out to just everybody, but still staying
true to myself, Still stay true to my fans and
what they want to hear. So we're just going through
the creative process, figuring out which artists dound good on,
what records and different things like that. How many records
you're sitting on right now? I got so many damn songs.
That's what I do they the phone is ringing right now.

(30:00):
They want me to come to the fucking studio when
I finished this. So every time I'm in La we
in the studio, you're working NonStop. Are you? Are you
the type of person who has to write thrown shit?
Do you get help with the writing or you open
to both things? I opened the both now. I opened
the both when I started seeing our favorite motherfucking songs
that we think somebody works so hard on all that,

(30:21):
and when you go read the credits and it's like
staging people. So I'm like, hey, you ain't write that shit,
but we fuck with it and we love it like
you wrote it. We don't give a fuck. So now
I just had to growth to that because once I
had first started rapping, I felt like I had so
much to prove, and I felt like I was a
new rapper and I was gay. I was like, my

(30:41):
first three projects, you wrote it all. I wrote it all.
I wrote it all. My next hit, we just did
a song I Feel Good. When I was in Atlanti,
me and my brother trade tracks. I wrote the whole
song wow featuring material Girl, the whole song. That's that's
your biggest record, right, Yes, but here I brought that

(31:04):
whole one sire song top to bottom. So it's like
I just but I just realized now with like in music,
everybody like just rap. Okay, you can know how to rap,
you know what I'm saying, but you know what hit
is a hit? Were you nervous to do your freshman freestyle?
Hell yeah? All of us was, yeah, well you gotta
do freshman. You go there that morning. First of all,

(31:27):
all of us have to agree on the beat. Okay,
so everyone's got to be like yes. Everyone's got to
be like yes, and if you ask, don't say yes
and you get out numbered. Yes it's grads. Okay. So well,
y'all have to agree on the beat that morning. You
have to do a freestyle a cipher. So those already
two raps, different raps. They have an ABC segment, they

(31:49):
have a re read hateful comments segment. Long day, you
have to do photo shoots. So it's a long guy
dam day. And the type of me, I'll get ready
like a girl, so I have to hear glam, makeup done,
all that shit. You go do your different You gotta
have like three four hours. It's different photo shoots and
all that. So you're doing photo shoots throughout the day,
different content pieces, and it's trying to write two raps

(32:11):
that you gotta goddamn remember, right, and you gotta kill it,
and you gotta kill it. Yeah. So it's like you
kind of you kind of right. You gotta recite and rap,
Like if I listen to it, if I listen to
my favorite song ten times, I could rap it better
that ten times than when the first time I heard it.
So it's like you kind of gotta go out there
and wrap your ship with confidence, like you popping your

(32:32):
ship knowing then when your head you don't even got there,
remember the lyrics because you just wrote that ship, right,
And you gotta remember too. You gotta remember your freestyle,
and you gotta remember the cipher. Yeah, crazy, Who are
you in the cipher with? It? Was me? Do? She don't?
She is dope as head? But K C. Case Casey,

(32:55):
New York. I think from Jersey somewhere up there, and
I forgot the other boy name? Were you? Like? Thanks?
Sometimes we hear stories people do the freshman shoot and
then collaborations end up happening after because you hang out
with them all day. Was there anybody who you linked
up with who you kind of caught a vibe with
there on Tampa. Yeah, that's so funny because I I

(33:19):
looked at doult Is like a pop like kind of
popping and then we was added thing. She was like
push that out. I was like, Oh, Florida, you're from Florida.
That's Florida puts the house. Yeah, Florida and is I
know jis a Florida thing, but it's like Tallahassee Florida thing. Like,
what's that? Does it get I'm saying, does it get
up to Tallahassee because I know it's like heavy like

(33:41):
in the Tampa area. What's is that? That's my je Tallahassee? Also,
uh T Pains from there? Yeah, you should link with
have you met tea Pain yet? I never met you.
Ay should do a song together, but we know he
from Haste. Yeah, you gotta do it. He need lives
in Atlanta. Hey give me I would have paint producer song?

(34:03):
Which one I would have produce a song for me?
You don't give me a T Paint feature. You wouldn't
let him, You wouldn't let him do a hook. You're
saying no to the T Paints. Give me producer song.
T Pang write the song for me, creative director, and
you won't let him be on the hook. It's T Pain.
It's T Pain, Okay, producers, She's like, I don't give
a fun produce the song, Like who got a song
with T pa? But I think that some people are

(34:27):
like behind the scenes kind of people like I been
like T Paint had a long ass on T Pain
got millions of records. So I know that that's the
top five song on radio about six months ago. Oh
what song it's called? I like that. I I never
heard it. It's a It was T Paint feature in
kay Lannie. It was like number it hit number two.
Rhythm you heard it? I only say this is that? Yeah?

(34:50):
Are you are you telling us that he definitely heard
the fucking record? Yeah? Anyway, we got to hear it anyway,
how you see it? I like that runing nothing drinks,
she got money in the bank. What do you think
that it's it's anyway turn it down the Paint feature.

(35:10):
Now he pain't write my song and produce it. There
it is. We gotta get Nikki on the record with you.
I gotta get on that. You gotta make that happen.
You already got Lotto big Lotto, biggies, any other features that.
What about Trina man, Yes, Trina, I want to do.
I want to do. I want to do a song
with Trina for the culture, you know, people who are

(35:31):
kind of outside of like uh, like Trina is like
really big in the gay community. Yes, she is fucking lit. Yes,
legendary in the gay community. Legend And for me, I
want to do. I want to do a song with
Trina because me growing up, like even though I'm originally
from up North, and I remember, like, you know how
the difference between living up north and living down South,

(35:52):
I really was older, like from being ten to all
the way, my whole adulthood was Florida. So Trina was
my little Kim. You know, when you grow up up north,
they had little Kim as well. You know, Trina was
running ship yeah, but down South we had Trina, Trina
the mother of Miami. Yeah. So I just feel like,
you know, a lot of my music is Florida bass.
I would consider myself like, you know, Florida Girl, Florida Water,

(36:14):
because that's a lot of stuff that I go upon
when I was a kid, when I lived up north,
so I was just sure it is a wild place. Yeah.
I was listening to pop music when I was up North,
like Britney Spears and Ship. I was a kid. Shout
out to Brittany, So that's what was like going to school,
t I Rail and all that. Wan six a part
a little bad like that. Shout to bow Wow. That
was a Rand one six in Park. I feel like
he owned When I was a kid. I thought he

(36:35):
owned bet Yeah, because I was like, God, damn this,
I ain't love Hot one on six and Park. Every
week his video is always number one. Yeah, even the
Ship That Sucked, Uh huh. Jesus So album on the way,
you're working on it, the new singles out featuring Lotto, Yeah,
anything else you're getting into, any acting, any TV stuff

(36:56):
have gone to our Lizzo. You and Liz are going
on tour. Shout to Lizzo. Shout out to Motherfucking's that's huge.
She's wildly challenging me. And Madonna's song Material Girl Remix
about to come out. You got a song with Madonna? Yes,
of course, I didn't know that. We did a Material
Girl remix and we performed it and and I performed
it with her New York Pride. Was she cool like

(37:18):
a fucking rock star? Madonna is so cool and solely
and Madonna is a boss. I mean, she's fucking fucking quean.
Do you ask your questions like about like some of
like like the eighties and Ship, I'd be like, yo,
like I was, I would have I just you know,
found you. I'm like, yo, how was Dennis Rodman was
a good? Like it was so funny, like I just
like it was just being right? How you just bad?
Like we like in the studio, she like, think, I

(37:42):
want a rock hard Should I say that? I'm like, yoh, Ship,
Like Madonna said that, yeah. It was it was something.
It was it was it was doing the remis and
she was like something something I want to rock hard
Dick and I just bust out of I was like, oh, Ship,
Like this lady is literay. She was like, should I
say that? I was like, I feel like she. I
feel like she's definitely going through like a patch in

(38:02):
life where she's like on her young girl. Should again?
I love I love Madonna. She loves peppermint steamer. So
you have whatever room She's saying, you have to have
a peppermint, peppermint. Ah. I know how she smells. She
smells good. If I smell, I like Madonna smell like that.
I can remember out of just I forgot the name.

(38:23):
She's cool as ship and she worked hard as hell
like us going to rehearsals together, like Madonna coming and
rehearsal with heels on and long gans, blowing hair and
her makeup down. I'm like with her little outfit. So
I'm like, this lady's still a motherfucking rock star. It was.
It was an experience. Shout out to Madonna. That's a
big deal. Not a lot of barely anyone has records.

(38:44):
That's what I said. I was like, Yo, you know,
I know people that have been wrapping for so long
that jay Z might be the last person who had
a Madonna feature or was I didn't, I didn't Champagne
Champagne Rose didn't hear that one? Was that on a
Cubo solo album? Yeah, not the best album, So I
probably pasted MO saying yeah, I remember that song. You
know what I'm saying. I'm like, I had to. I

(39:05):
had to sit down and think, I'm like, you know
how many people been wrapping up for so long? You
never even God even she has a smell Madonna, and
I was right there, she's crazy, shout out to Madonna.
That's what's she goes by M. Now it's so funny.
She doesn't my Madonna's M. You're in the car, M.
That's interesting. When we were it's like, am you know

(39:26):
you're famous? If you could just go by a letter,
she got a big M ring. Nobody got on Madonna,
I felt, but I was like, I don't know if
I could call another human M if I know if
you're Madonna. I'm like, you're Madonna. That's what I'm saying.
But it's like everybody's like, EM, you're kind of late
in the game. And once to don that MS ready
to leave, EM said she could come in now. Oh sure,
I bet she's She probably moves that way right. No

(39:48):
jokes that I need my peppermint steamer in the studio,
like this is what we're doing. I need this kind
of water. Yes, don't funk with me, fuck with M.
Bitch on Madonna. That's fire there it is. I can't
wait to be like that. Well, listen, man, I appreciate
you coming through that last question. If you could, if
there was any girl in the world who's so fine

(40:10):
that it's made you think about, like, shit, I don't
know about this gay ship, which which one is it? Miami,
Young Miami. I respect that. Oh yeah, good choice, good choice.
Shout out to Young Miami. There it is Saucy Santana
in the building. Who leg keV Show
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