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April 9, 2024 46 mins

Interview with Peso Peso on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, yo's Payso pays So check me out on the
Boutleg kV podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Boutlet CAV Podcast. Man special guests here the Hardest Essay.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yeah ay, you know.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Uh Payso paesos here. Good to see you buddy, Yeah, good.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
To see you too, bro.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes sure. First of all, I'm want to give you
some credits, some flowers, because I do feel like, you know, uh,
being Mexican and hip hop has not always been the
gift that it is in twenty twenty four, right, And
I feel like you're kind of like one of the OG's,
especially you know, out of at like doing what you're doing,
like out of the Texas, you know scene, just out
of the South in general, Like we've always had your

Connor rapping shit on on the West coast. But you know,
I kind of feel like you were like the first
real fly Mexican to really pop, like you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
It definitely wasn't easy whenever, like around the town, whenever
I came.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
In, Because how long have you like been because like
when did you end up linking with uh?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, like like late twenty eighteen or early twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Got it? Because even back then, like you know, like
now we think about like I feel like your Mexican
is great, right, you know what I mean? Like all
the labels are trying to sign Mexican rappers. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
They yes, they love Texas Mexican rappers for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Shout out to uh D Baby, who's okay?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah they thought that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's crazy man, they I.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Guess they made a mistake. It was somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh so his car didn't get shot up?

Speaker 1 (01:29):

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh thank god, thank god for really crazy man. How
wild is it? Because like I always tell people, like
we live in l A, right, so like out here,
it's super easy to get robbed because it's hard to
protect yourself. They make it really hard for you to
like own a gun here. So like where I'm from,
in Phoenix, it's open carry, so it ain't a lot

of people getting robbed because a lot of people people
will get the fucking heads blown off because you never
know who's got a gun. But in Texas it's kind
of similar, Like it's like super fucking you know, everybody
strapped up legally obviously, But like does it like do
you think it takes away from like the violence or
like the random violence because out here we got so
much random ship to be happening hearing about another.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Places because it's crazy. I had went to the I
had went to the uh it was it's a YouTube channel.
It's like a news YouTube channel for Houston. And one day,
like I was, I went to the videos and I
was seeing like they were dropping a video like two
three times a day, like murder videos like this this

person got murdered, this this, uh, this man killed his wife.
This to two people killed on the South Side, Like.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
So, nah, it's just yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously,
Takeoff lots his life out there, man rp uh and uh,
you know, one of the greatest rappers legit facts for sure,
the greatest migo lyrically and.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
It was so humble, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
And he was like just the influence so many people
rapping like Takeoff now, yeah, it's just crazy man shout
out to take Off one of the goats for sure.
So before you had linked up with with Sauce, what
was like your come up as an artist, Like how
long have you actually been kind of like, you know,
putting out music, taking the shit serious.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I used to write whenever, like I was in like
juvenile prison, you get me. I used to like write
music and just write rhymes and stuff, and I'll really
just write them. Like whenever I get out, I'm gon
show my brother, you know what I'm saying. But whenever
I ain't get I ain't go to the first My
first studio sessionn Soil, I was like seventeen. My pop said,

put me onto a studio and I made my first song.
But I ain't start taking a serious until probably like
twenty seventeen. I was trying to take music series, but
I was fighting the case and I was on the
run for like a year and a half. Jesus yeah,

And I made Sauce on the run. When I was
on the run, I massauce.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
And what was the case you were fighting?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
It was the police had kicked my door down and
just found a couple of pounds a week. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Ain't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (04:17):

Speaker 2 (04:17):
We be in La first of all. It's so like
if you live here and you travel, you'd be forgetting that,
like it ain't La, right, So like we'll fly to
like all kinds of places, and I always pack Hello
fucking drugs and shit, And this fucker right here is
paranoid as fuck, super fucking paranoid, and I'm like, bro,
it's all good.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
And then we like Land and.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm like, damn, we are in the South. But like
even like the pack culture out here, Like, bro, there's
so many motherfuckers running around with fucking garbage bags of
fucking dope right now in LA and like most cops
won't give a fuck unless it's like astronomically, like if
you got pulled over with two pounds in LA, like,
you're probably just right.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
They don't be a trip about the weed. In Houston.
I mean, I'm pretty sure the criminalized in Houston, right, Yeah,
but two pounds you don't go to jail for so
But in Houston, yeah, but it's gonna be a slap
on the rast. But like outside of outside like but
like where I lived though, like like like like on
the outskirts, Yeah, you're gonna be out of there. But
where I'm from, though, you you can go to prison

for two pounds.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
What part of Texas you're from.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I'm from Galaton County, Texas City.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, no, it's it's wild man, Texas gotta get their
ship straight over there with the weed man.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
But I ended up I ended up only my lawyer
was a horrible lawyer. And she ended up telling me like,
if you don't tell yourself and I'm gonna get off
your case.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's a bad lawyer.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was a lawyer. I paid like only four.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Thousand for Hey, it's like a tattoo artist. Yeah, you
pay for what you get, buddy, right, So certain things
you don't skim on lawyers and tattoo artists and Dennis.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, so she I ended up. But I saw something.
I was on the run, and I told him like, hey, bro,
I'm gonna get up with you, like for really. He
was like, man, let me know. I was like, just
gotta you know what I'm saying, take care of my
business first, you feel me?

Speaker 2 (06:11):

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So I was just taking up my money while I
was on the run, and then I ended up turning
myself in giving my granny half the money to take
care of my kids to make sure they're straight. And
then I only did end up doing like ten months
in the county. You know what I'm saying. It was
better than what I thought it was gonna be. And
then after that when I got out, that's whenever it
was like a great area for me because I wanted

to take a rap serious, but I only had like
a couple hundred dollars to my name, so I just
I had to like go.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
You like flipped it into one hundred k or something crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right, Yeah, And then that's whenever I linked back up
with Sauce and I had got a feature from And then.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
How does one turn two hundred dollars into one hundred
thousand dollars asking for a friend.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, you just gotta know what you're doing, man. Yeah,
you just gotta put one, one and two together, you know,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
You gotta sell the outs as the ends.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, you gotta put it together.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
You gotta get those nice light depths that pass for
indoors in Texas. Okay, you come, you come here, you
meet with some Asians, they give you a thuffel bag
and take it back to Texas. You tell everybody it's
fucking ends, and they believe you because it's Texas.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah. Yeah, that's one way you could do it allegedly allegedly,
or or Armenians.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Armenians they got good week allegedly of course. So you
ended up kind of getting your getting your paper right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Got my paper right? Linked was finally linked was saus
and I told him I was ready, and but I
was just gonna just get a verse room. I never
liked telling him like give me a hand up, let
me sign me. I just wanted to get I never
was telling him I wanted to be TSF. You feel me,
I'll just got a RaSE room. And he just ended
up telling everybody around him that he wanted to sign me.

And I was TSF And is that and the third
man then ship? I mean I was I was fucking
with it, you know what I'm saying. I definitely like
I was happy to be to jump on board. And
then the rest is history.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
That man, when you were locked up as a kid,
what were you in juvenile prison for?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Man? Uh? Well, that that last case for us for
bullshy case Berkeley burglar abitation. But I was on probation.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
It was just like breaking into a house or something.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, I was on probation for robbery. And I had
been in and out of jail for a lot of
breaking in the breaking inners. I used to break in
the cars. I used to steal cars. I had some
dope cases. My juvenile raption. She was pretty long, you
feel me? Because I've been going to jail since I
was ten years old.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Some old school fucking that's what they do in San Francisco. Now,
all they do is fucking crack windows and take it
out so you don't go to jail in San Francisco.
They just fucking I heard about that.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I heard you can still up to like thousand others.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You could crack a fucking window of a car and
get caught red handed, and they're just gonna write you
a fucking citation. In the Bay. That's why it's if
you go to the Bay, you gotta fucking leave all
your windows, roll down and take everything out the motherfucking car.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
That's what you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
One hundred Like I got homies from the Bay. When
they park, they pop the trunk and leave it open
and they roll all the windows down there because otherwise
the headache of even if you don't have anything in
your car, they're gonna crack your window. Right, So it's
like do I really want to go through like dealing
with going to the window guy. Ye.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Windows don't be cheap either exactly, especially if you got
a high end car.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, my boys got a Tesla and like literally like
well we'll be with him and like when we get
out to go to the club that pops his trunk,
leaves it open, rolls everything down.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
What if?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I mean ship the bay is wild, bro, That
shit crazy. How would you like, like, would you guys
like because you're bringing in the houses like as a kid,
would you like No? Like I was always wondering, man,
because I feel like that that been a fucking stressful,
fucking length to hit.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Bruh, Like you said that.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Just like you fucking cracking a window jump like you
don't know if someone's home is there a dog inside?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Is there? Fucking I had to do some wild. I
ain't gonna lie like it had been times where it
was crazy, bro. So when I was like fourteen, I
got sunk. I got sent to a rehab because I
wouldn't start smoking weed, and it was weird. I was
in there for like I was fused to being there
for like ninety days, but like on my fortieth day,

I just couldn't take it no more, bro, because I
was in there with a whole bunch of people who
were like shooting heron and smoking mef and it was
just and then they'll put us in these circles and
it was just I just couldn't take it no more.
Bro I felt like a jay or something. You feel me?
So I ended up saying I was gonna run, you
feel me? And I was talking to my homework from

San Antonio and he was like, we been thinking about
running too, So he got it up. It's just like
three or four homies from San Antonio because a lot
of people from that was in there was from San Antonio.
And he gathered up like three or four people from
San Antonio and I grather and I got my homework.
I was from the other side of Texas City where
I was from that ship. We ran and we left,

and my homeboy from from my side, he called us
his mama and shit, and she picked us up at
the McDonald's and then we went down there and we
broke into We broke into an abandoned apartment and we
was staying there and then the next day. The next day,
we were like, when you get some lame when he
gets some money. So I was like, man, I know

a neighborhood, you feel me. So we went to this
neighborhood and man, we ended up breaking in one of
the houses, throwing the rock like I'll make sure nobody's
in the crib though.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Throw a rock at the window, not very discrect.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Older like like some big ship. Wonder what you got car, bro,
I ain't get caught doing this, not that time. I
threw throw it in there and ship and went in there.
It's crazy because everybody looking. Everybody like looking around and
s first place I went to with the kitchen on. God,
I was so hungry, you know me.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yo, that's like the type of ship you hear about
on TV. Like I got caught eating a sandwich.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
It was real life. I made me a sandwich. God
made them niggas round all that ship up. And then
whenever we left, we left. It's crazy, brocause like like
like the homes from sant Antonio, Bro, like we cauld
we walking. So we had we having a walk across
like the highway with ship and they got like fucking
ars like in their pants and ship and they're like
walking like this and ship across the street. And uh

when we got to the apartment, I was like everybody
breaking everything down, counting the money like laptiles, phones, you
know what I'm saying. You know it the whole night
and I was thinking in my head like if I
don't get away from these dudes. I'm gonna go right
back to jail. You feel me?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Fair assessment. So guys just running across the freeway with ars, I.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I tucked some ship. I let them keep the guns
and they're too big to just wait.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Did you guys take the guns out of the house.

Speaker 1 (13:04):

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Oh okay, yeah, well they did.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah I did. But I took everything. I took, like
a couple of things that I can you know what
I'm saying, A couple of valuable little electronics, you know
what I'm saying. Put some money in my pocket. And
I was like, hey, man, I'm finna go cross straight
to the college and get on my space. Even me,
I'm a focus your in a little bit. I dished
the niggas. I went across to the college. Still call

my granny. I know you mad at me, but come
pick me up like right now. Was like, oh my god, Maria,
I heard you broke out. Yeah, she came and got me.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Did you drop you back off of jail?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
No, she dropped me off in the hood and she
told me I gotta figure it out.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Figure it out.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I ended up going back to juvenile and getting that
shit over with. My space was a wave, but yeah,
that ship. But what I used to do whenever I
was a kid that I used to break in the cars.
Like what I would do is I would wait to
get like real late, and I'll get put up, you
know what I'm saying, and just go break into them.

Just I wouldn't bust windows up. I would just a lot.
You'll be surprised on how many people keep their doing
lock for sure, you feel me. So that's what we
were doing whenever I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Ship on Amazon you can get like a one of
those things you.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Just And it's crazy because I used to be good.
But the reason why I used to always get caught
is because I wouldn't know when to stop. I'll be
doing it.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
All night, feel like that is every Felon's uh story.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
And then whenever. And it's crazy because every time I
got caught, I'll get caught like at like five six
in the morning, and then I'll be in a police station.
Because you're gonna be in a police station for like
three hours before they take you to the juvenile it's
the worst. And I'll be in the police station and
I'll just be hearing the phone ringing, like my car
got broken into. My car got broken into. I'm just

sitting there like while they just slapping all that ship
and on me and ship we got the guy that
was the juvenile days. Br like for all from that,
like doing that and getting punished for that, going to jail.
I ain't never stole again in my life.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like listen, with all due respect, I think that twenty
twenty four. Back then, I feel like the liquid was
like if you could get like a stereo because you
just be able to yank them stereos out. Oh yeah, car,
the amp speaker boxes just crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I never did that. Ship.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And then back in the day when I was a kid,
you'd be shook if so much because motherfuckers would be
stealing your CD books out the car. So you'd have
like a fucking three hundred fucking page CD book and
be like, I gotta hire this bitch somehow because that
was money. That was like thousands of dollars of CDs.
But man, I had a bunch of stolen CDs electrically too.

But was there like a car that you would like
like the easies, what's the easiest car to break into?
Or were you just like.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Nah, I just I would I never used a tool
I never used.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Nowaday is their fucking.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I would literally just see if the door's unlocked. If
the door's unlocked, I'm going in. If the alarm go off,
I'm running.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
What's the coolest thing you found in the car?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Probably like like guns and ship?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, I feel like that's something that people don't even
think about and they leave it in the under their seat.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, there's so many people.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
It's like, would you ever like if you I always
wonder like if you were like breaking into a house
and you discovered some crazy, nasty like serial killer ass ship,
would you just leave or would you like leave and
then call the cops and be like, hey, I probably
there's some hostages stuck in this house. I don't don't.
Don't ask me how I know. I may or may

not have just broken in. And is that snitching? I
don't know. I don't know. It's like when Cameron said, uh,
they interviewed Cameron and they're like, so, you mean to
tell me if you live next to a serial killer
and you knew he was a serial killer, you wouldn't snitch?
He was like Nope, Like damn, Cam, I don't know
if that's true, especially if you got kids. I don't know,

you'd move I probably, I don't know, I don't know.
Just have your girl do it here, you make the call,
bab I can't.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I probably get a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Has U sauce try to convince you to join him
in his uh not him not joining him, but like
you know, you get the only fans hustle going me. Yeah, no, sir,
because he's making a lot of money on there. I
feel like you could just manage chicks, right. It feels
like a you know, are you in a relationship, Yeah,

well that's probably why. No, but not when you're a
committed fellow. Committed fellows don't manage only fans.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Horse Nah. But it's not even like I just couldn't
see myself like fucking.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'm not even talking about fucking on camera. I'm about
like just you know, uh dig if you will. Yeah, no,
that's not my lane, not your lane, talk to me
about uh just you know, obviously we were talking earlier
about like the Mexican rapper thing is going. That Mexican

ot is obviously a friend of mine and really amazing man,
and uh, you guys have made some dope songs together.
What's it like to just see, you know, somebody out
of Bay City, Texas, which is not too far from
where you're from. Just like, you know, it was crazy
to see him do the rodeo and ship, like.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh yeah, that's crazy, that's ships type. Bro. Ain't he
a good dude?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
How did you guys? Cause did you guys initially have
some sort of beef for something?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
We've never had a beef before. People just think that
because in an interview he said he wanted to be
a better rapper than me, Like he just said I'm
a better rapper like on some rapper ship. Everybody said
that we never had a beef before.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
How did you guys initially link up?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I did we linkok? Hmm, I don't know how vibes?
Oh yeah, ship. We would just call on the internet
and then ship. He I guess he was in Houston
because you know, he stays far from Houston, like an
hour and a half or so, right, and then ship.

He ended up pulling to the studio and we made
chin Gun.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Our songs fire.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Do you know I'm a Mexican taller than Drodie. He's
like the Mexican y'all.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Mean, Nah, I don't like like slim size.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
That motherfucker's like, yeah, he's like the Mexican slim fuck.
I'm like, bro, and he can't dunk. It's so disappointing.
He's tall for nothing.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah that food.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Just be eating bean and cheese burritos all day and
then dabbing at the gym. Fucking drug addict.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's my dog.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
How hard has it been for you staying sober and
not you know, fucking around?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
First, it was hard. It was hard at first because
it's just so boring, you.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Know what I'm saying, but feeling everything.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I don't know, it's just it just gets boring. But
it's easy now, just because like you're used to it.
At first, it was at first it was it was
like ah, but it was like it made me do
it because I didn't want to go back to jail.
You feel me like whenever you get a taste of jail,
it's like when you get a taste, it like it's
like when people like I don't want to say that, but.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
When people get a taste of jail, they're like, oh
this ship is this shit sucks?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah? I want to I was to say, like if
somebody got a taste of dying like that should have
probably fucked with them, like.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
If you almost soded or you did od and you survived,
or just.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Like if you got shot in like you've seen the light,
you know what I'm saying. But they brought you back
to life, and so you're like.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Damn, I gotta change my ship up.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Fucking I can't go back to that space, you know
what I'm saying. So it's like I ain't trying to go.
I was in the fence for like ten days.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I went to jail for like thirty two hours a
few years ago, and I was like, fuck, wow, I
can't do I'm like, bro, this is terrible. And I
was in the fucking like I was in like a
holding cell. Well initially, Arizona, you go to like the Shoe,

which I went to a different time, but you're like
in a room with like just a bunch of homeless
fucking fools bombs. Motherfucker's taking a ship and you're just
like on the floor. Motherfuckers was using the toilet paper
for fucking pillows and shit. And then the last time
I went to jail, he was as some shit bros.

Arizona was when jor Pyo was fucking running.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's like, who's it.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
He's this sheriff named jord Pile from Arizona. He's like, uh,
what is he known for being a racist piece of shit?

Speaker 1 (21:47):

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah. So he had passed this law in Phoenix where
it was SB ten seventy. It was like maybe like
ten years ago. If you were Mexican, he could pull
you over and if you didn't have your papers, he'd
rest you on the spot, even if you were legal,
and then you'd have to prove that you were legal
when you're in jail.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
What Oh.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
And then there was tense City. Yeah, there's a jail
in Phoenix. It's got closed Yeah, pink underwear, so you
made all all of the inmates had to wear pink
because he wanted to damasculine, damasculize them. And then there
the jail was tense city. So it's outside and you're
just intense, so there's no like. And the goal of

that was it was in Arizona gets to be like
one twenty in the summer, it's like the desert, right,
one hundred and twenty degrees and you're fucking outside living
because Joe Opile is a.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Psychopath, And did he get kicked out or did he.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Just dude, he was the sheriff for like what twenty
five years? Thirty years? Oh my god, he lost finally
he finally lost. But dude's fucking sick, assful for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
So how many years does it take to until you
until somebody else runs again?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think four?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Damn They let that nigga win ten times? Yeah, ten times,
crazy like terrible.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
He's terrible, man, but not The jails and Phoenix have
gotten a lot more humane, for sure, but nothing like
being stuck in the fucking cell, the holding cell that
was my mother. But that was bro. I got bailed
out as soon as they were like getting getting me
like dressed out to like take me to the actual jail, right,
I was like, Oh thank god, just being alone, fucking

no pillow, no blanket, just fucking a slab of concrete.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Hey, I was watching your in I'll be watching interviews
and real interview with the do Lefty.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's just so funny, Bro, that's a lefty man.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
That's just funny. As whenever y'all whenever, like whenever y'all
talking about ot and like and like you were trying
to say so he cuts you all. You're like, damn, bro, Like, let.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Me talk, bro. You can't talk of that guy. He
was not a sick one when he came though, for sure,
came in here with like a what do you have
a bottle of? Henny? That shit was like almost gone.
He was just drinking it and then you know, whatever
else he'd be doing. I don't know what else he'd
be doing, you know, I don't want to speculate, but
he you know, he's he's definitely on something.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
But he's a super talented rapper. He could just be
one of those guys that's just high on life or
something else. But very talented guy. He actually rapped. He's
actually hard Like I like his music. You should have
you guys chatted at all.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
No, we haven't.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
He's a cool guy, super cool guy. He's not weirdo.
He's not like, I mean, depending on what you consider
a weirdo. But he was a nice guy, very talented guy.
Man shoutouts left you we wanted the hottest out of
LA right now? Yeah, No, that was the fun that interview.
I just gave up like halfway through. I was just
like he was like and then he would start having
like this whole off camera conversation and with like someone

over here, and I'm just like, well, we tried. It
was fun. People liked the interview and he killed his freestyle.
He freestyle for like fucking fifteen minutes or something like that.
You know, it was cool. Yeah, shots, I left you. Man,
you guys would work together.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, maybe it'll come about on them one day.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, hey, talk to me about You're a guy who
I've always noticed. You know, I've had a conversation about
like rap hustling, and me and Filthy Richie talked about it.
You will hit a city and it's like, yo, tap
in if you need a verse, if you need a video,

if you need a motherfucking drop, if you need me
to you know, fucking I don't know, fucking clean your pool.
I'm in the city. I'm in the city. Tap in,
tap in, tap in.

Speaker 1 (25:47):

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I mean for you being like an independent artist and
like it's imperative though for you guys to like I
feel like, it's like, but how many songs have you
done where.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I ain't like this?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
It was terrible and you were just like, man, it's
a bad fuck.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
It It's happened. But they be getting text way more.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Like if you hear the song and it's just cheeks,
you'd be like, hey man, yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
If you if you're willing to give me some money,
you know your shit asked and you're gonna have to.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Your problem is most people don't know their ship's asks.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I think they know.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I think it's just like like like like a drug
abuser who don't want to admit that.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, And I think I think people like get off.
It gives them like a hit, a dopamine to be like,
I'm a rapper, you know, wherever a little part of
town they're from, I got a song, pay pay so yeah,
you know, even if they get a fat bitch off that.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
You know, I didn't look at it like that. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Do you ever pay for features?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Nah? The last feature I paid for is whenever I
pay sauce for a future. Damn. I haven't paid for
a feature.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Since it's like an exchange thing, right, like a switch
or what do they call it?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Not a switch?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
A fucking why?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah? But that that feature ended the changing my life
though for sure me.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So he's a fucking alien. He's so so good rapping
soft walkers.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I'm not saying I'm against paying for features.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's gotta be the right one, yeah, for sure, Like
if you had if you got a deal on one.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, I mean, it just depends on who the person is.
If I feel like this can't really like benefit.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
My career, would you pay Beyonce one hundred thousand dollars? Hell, yeah,
she's worth it, right, a million.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
She's probably charging over a million.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I don't know if she's attacked the charge though.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, you're right, she probably she's a fucking billionaire. Yeah, right,
you're right, you're right. That's so true.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I feel like once you get to that certain level,
no one's charging for features. Like I don't think fucking
J Cole is charging people for features. He's just gonna
do it, or he's not, you know what I'm saying,
Like something with Drake, I feel like Drake's gonna do
what he wants to do.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
And then right, right, right, you're right, that's true.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
But I feel like, you know, at the end of
the day, like if you're a young artist and you're independent,
like them, feature bags pay they keep the lights on. Man,
man be coming in for sure? Man, Is there is
there any what are you working on right now?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Alpa thrown two, it drops May third?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
How many songs?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Uh, twelve songs and I'm gonna add similar songs for
the looks any futures. Yeah, I got some features on there. Yeah,
I got like five six features ots on the O
T O T. Yeah you go put my Dog's tea
cuevo and pre quabo feature. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna lead.

The rest of them just surprised me. But yeah, those
like the ones that like what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Know him and Saw has been for with each other. Right,
So whenever I first I first, when I first mate Kuebo,
I was like I at first started coming around the
rap shit for real, you know what I'm saying. I
was still hustling and shit, you feel me, So I
wasn't like rapping. But I ended up seeing him again though,
you feel me, like years later and shit, and he

had told me like you doing your thing, bro, you
know what I'm saying. And then it's crazy cause I
was on house arrest for like a whole year after Christmas.
My lawyer hit me up, I mean my yeah, yeah,
my lawyer hit me up, and he was like Hey,
you good. You ain't gotta be at the crib no more.
They ain't gonna take the monitor off though, but you
ain't got to be at the house no more. So

I went to the studio to go then go walk
and uh it was a big ass studio session like
Hello Houston Rappers and Quabo was there. You fear me
and then shit, so they like what we're doing. You
know what I'm saying. We end up doing the song
that's hard.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Have you ever worked out with OT's dad yet? Has
he tried to get you to take like t R
T or anything, Chuck.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I didn't work out with OT's dad. Now now I
have a woo posted though.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
It's crazy to me that Ot somehow that's.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
My dog right there is the best, Like he's super What.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I love about OT's camp he is not only the
tallest Mexican in the world on his camp, but he
also has.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
The buffiest bulldog.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, his dad is a fucking fucking We'll be kicking
and I'll be like, damn, bro, I'm old and fat,
Like I just feel I feel inferior around Chuck Man.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, he a good dude though.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Super good dude man.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Shout out to Chuck Man, He's not like a bully
or nothing.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
What are?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
You don't always wonder about you know, because Sauce has
obviously been in some very very public feuds. Have you
been pooled into any of that just without even.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Like, you know, nah, I have, Yeah, I haven't.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I always wondering like if you like, if you signing somebody,
or you're like if this fools beefing with like so
and so, like inherit the beef.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, I mean you're gonna always like pick a side
though you feel me, but like I don't feel like
he just like just throw me in this ship like
in the cross the air, but in the crossfire. But
at the end of the day, like ship, I'm fucking
with what he fucking with. Sure, that's that's my brother.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
A lot of people are picking a.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Side right now, like he if he if he ain't
fucking with somebody, and he is legit, he ain't fucking
with somebody for a baller reason. I ain't fucking with me.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
What do you think of the future Kendrick song? What
do you think of Kendrick dissing everybody in their mom
Kendrick he's an alien man?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, I just think it's a whole bunch of rap ship.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
A lot of rap ship for the sport. Yeah, I'm
just surprised Drake hasn't replied yet outside of Instagram captions.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Think you think it's coming.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, I don't think he wants that smoke. I think
he knows he can't box with God. You know. I
think like Jay Cole is gonna reply though, because Cole
gets it. I think Drake. Listen, Drake didn't reply to
push the t. Drake he knows when he's outmatched.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
But my thing is, you think it like had Drake?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, oh yeah, bro, This man exposed his son, ruined
his Adidas deal, and talked about his best friend's fucking
cancer and he didn't say anything back. What. This is
the same guy who told Meek Mill, I've been waiting
four days where are you at? I've been bumping fucking

ar App spent two weeks, two weeks on Friday. No
reply outside of him, you know, having some captions.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
And he's not a bad disc record either.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
No, Back to Back is like one of the greatest
dis records of all time. And I say that because
I don't know another disc record you would go to
the club and it's in the club like back to
Back was like ringing off in the fucking club and
he like low key like ended Meek Milk for like
two years. What do you think is the best this
song ever? Uh? Personally best? I think no Vaciline by

Ice Cubes up there? What you got ether By know?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah? What you gotta pay? Hit him up? Tupac, what
you got man? I think hit him Up is the
best this song? Hit him Up great? Have so much energy?
Why you have so much energy?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
But yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Drake replied, and it came in the video. Yeah crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
If Drake don't reply, I don't know. People still hang
out with Drake. He's like I feel like he's like
a huston fucking you know.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I've never been around him before.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
He got an aura.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
He glows the music though.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
No, he's a legend. He's one of the greatest of
all time. Yeah, one of the greatest of all time.
So he's the fucking biggest rapper ever for sure, one
of the best songmakers of all time.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
He's great. Bro. I remember whenever he first came out,
I was like ten years old, and.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
He fucking reps Houston like he'd be fucking going hard
for the eight.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
They love him in Houston, Nah, for sure. They treat him.
They treat him like he's from there.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Nah he's I mean, shit, he did the rodeo, he
came out during.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
The road Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
How good is a trill Burger?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
That shit? Great fire? Yeah, good, great burger.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I hope he opened to win in LA. I keep
seeing all these smash Burgers. I'm like, damn, Bro, what
I don't want to do is like go to Rolling
Loud or like one of these festivals where they got
trill Burgers.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
You think smash burgers taste the same?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I prefer smash Burger over like a regular.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
You know what I'm saying. Do you think like all
smash burgers taste the same? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I mean listen, you're gonna season your ground beef and
you're gonna smash it, dud. Some people season differently. I mean,
there's only so many fucking ways you cant seeon fucking burger, bro.
And then i mean, how different is the ground beef
everyone's getting? Like, I'm sure there's high quality.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Gun Bun told me he going he going to the
straight to the cows. He going to get them cows himself.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's a but I mean listen, maybe going straight to
the farm, but like I prefer smash style burgers. Then,
like when you go to like you know, out back
and get a burger and it's off fat and ship,
I'm like, now I want that smash you know what
I'm saying that ship is. There's a place out here
called Easy Street that Keith Lee just went to that's

fucking cracking now because he gave it. He said it's
the best burger he ever had.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
My two favorite burger spots in Houston is Trier Burgers
and bun Slut.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
What's it called?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Bunch slut bus slut?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh? I went there bun Sleut No bunch sleut no
no no? I went to a waffle bus what's it called?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
You went? Yeah? Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
You know what I don't like, man, when you be
going place and you just I feel like they only
make food for social media. Oh yeah, Like it's like
outland like outlanded ship. Nobody really wants to eat, but
they put it all together. It's like I guess, I
guess I'll have it viral fucking cereal chicken sandwich.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Like you know, yeah, I know what you mean?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Like, Bro, I'll be seeing these motherfuckers TikTok with like
ten pound burritos, and I'm like, why would you eat that?
Who's to order that? That's not even like a that's
not even a fun What are you supposed to do
with that?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
You like like whenever they say whenever, they had like
them super super super super super super super hot wings
and they'd be like, if you can eat all the wings,
your food is free, like brou how can you enjoy it?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
They ever had one? The one chip challenge?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I've never I never did it, but I was giving
it to people.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You did it?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
You did it?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Did I pay you? I like, did I tell you
I was gonna pay you? No? I didn't. I said
I'd push you on social media? Come on, I did
tell you I give you money. He fucking puked everywhere.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
You did it?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
He did it, and he puked it. I convinced him
somehow in my devious ways. Where we're at in Atlanta
in the hotel room. We're in the hotel and I
was like, Bro, I was like, you gotta do this
ship I'm posting on my feet and get you some followers.
I'm like, you know, like uh yeah, and someone else
agreed that they do it with him, and then they
he did it, and then he was.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Like, nah, do it the same time.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
He threw up everywhere. It's the same time. Yeah, and no,
funck that. And you know, I don't understand people who
just volunteer.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
You threw it up.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, no, you threw up. You threw up in the toilet.
But like like a while later, right, you.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Should have had some milk right next to you, No milk?
How long? How long did it last, like like when
it fucked up? Like when did you officially get the
peak out your mouth?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Like maybe like five minutes, six minutes. Like that's why
I really started feeling it, because it made you like
feel sick, right, yeah, I felt like I was bro.
My engineer t K is like fucking what six foot
four or some ship. I gave him forty dollars to
do it, like maybe six months ago. He was down bad.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
You're getting forty forty forty Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Eat the whole chip though, Heat the whole chip though.
You ate a fucking half of it, the whole ship
you did?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, I don't. He's serious, like you're gonna get my
You're gonna get my card.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Bro Jesus christ Man. So you said May, what is
May third?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, it's it's it's like for a sinkle to my
but oh.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I see what you don't want to drop it on
from I'm gonna go out there in May. I'm gonna
go to the UH thing. He's doing the UH. He's
got some ship going on at the rodeo performing there too. Yeah,
we'll be there. We'll go hunting.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
It's going crazy, Kip. Some homes were doing it allegedly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh you you're not allowed to kill hawks. Oh you
can't be near the weapons obviously, Why would you do that? Yeah,
we're not going to go do that. No. No, we
could go to like the strip club though, great strip
clubs in Houston. I want to go to like twenty nine.
I want to go to a Randoms one though.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
He don't fuck with the strip joints I do that.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
We should go to like I want to go to
like a fucking sketch one, you know what I'm saying,
Like one that's like nobody goes to, you know. I
want to go where like there's nothing but pices in there.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
We don't got a chill Paradise City. Just go to
fucking Paradise Paradise City. For sure.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
No, We're going to twenty nine, bro, twenty nine. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Houston could be the best strip club city in the
country quite possibly, sure, top three for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I think it's the best.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
One is Houston, Miami, Atlanta, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it.
Miami's my favorite, though. Totti's.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I've never been to a strip club in Atlanta. I've
been there.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Now, if you're in the Latin women like me, it's Miami.
You're gonna go to Miami, go to Tutti's and then
all the bitches, all the ladies are fresh from the water.

Speaker 1 (40:09):

Speaker 2 (40:10):
And you know, you know, I'm from the West coast,
so we have a lot of Mexican women, you know, the.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Coast from Polish Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Oh yeah, so you go to like, uh Miami, you
get the mother type of that scenas. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Is it true that I don't know if it's if
it's in Phoenix or somewhere else in Arizona, that the
ratio is twenty women to one man in Scottsdale's.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
This is what they say Scott's, there's hell of hoes
in Arizona. Bro, it's like fucking the whore capital of
the world, is it. Oh, there's so many bitches. If
you're into white bitches, there's not a better place in
the world for you to go and fuck bitches at.
And they're all super like just honestly, Scottsdale women are
the most they're like La la level bitches, but they're like,

you know, like Idaho level i Q. So they're just
very easy. Like if you just like rented a BMW
or something like, you get your fucking dick sucked, you know, crazy. Yeah,
if you have like a you know, you get him
an uber black you could stair pussy wet. You don't
even got Yeah, you don't even gott to own the car.

It ain't even that. They're just like so shallow and like.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, I feel like a lot of those cities though,
like that they're not used to being around like luxury ship.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
No. No, Scott Steel is a very high end city,
but those girls are just so thirsty that like for
the cloud and to be around money that they just
they're just very you know. And I own a club
in scott Steal go to eleven eleven but it's like
you are a person. Yeah, I mean I own a nightclub.
Yeah yeah, right to my No, it's in it's in

Scotts Stale. But now we opened, uh whiz never been
We opened like a year and a half ago. But yeah, no,
scott sounds fun.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
You like it? It's cool.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I mean you be in Arizona a lot usually she
used to be. I feel like I've always see you
out there doing like random ass ship.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah. I need a couple of shows out there.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, didn't you do a show with like GMO who
the Homie GMO and the a VP guys Avenue Productions GMO?
I think you did a show on the West Side somewhere,
very random.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Have you seen it? And I did it?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah? Uh? Do you regret getting your Chappo tattoo in
your hand?

Speaker 1 (42:28):

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Could you have gotten somebody who actually knew?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah? But I wanted to get on.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
This strange man you've never met. I was wondering when
people get like face started because.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
His story is like different, Like he was very ambitious
for sure, like he really wanted to do this.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
His chick who got let out fire.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
She Uh, But just the fact that like he was
like the fucking driver and like right worked his way
out and like he crossed the mental man and like
went to the plug and killers ass.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I always wondered, like, if you're the next dude to
fucking chick after El Chopo, is that like that'd be
hard to get hard because I'd be afraid, Like you know,
like this girl got out of prison and so I
saw like the pop Rozzi had her on a date
with somebody or some ship, and I was like, Damn,
that dude's gotta be shook.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Oh because he's all on the camp.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, because that's his bitch. They probably still be together.
I mean, who knows, but you know he's incarcerated. But
like I don't want to fuck L Choppo's X. I
don't need that juju shit goes left. She definitely seen
some wild ass ship.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
He like fuck it, she too, five got out of
Nobody's at fire.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Tell me Tim she is ship man. Anyway, Man, we'll
look your projects on the way. Anything else you got
that you're working.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
On, Man, bro, I'm just working like I'm just in
the studio every day knocking the songs, that shooting videos
and just stacking up good.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
That's what we're staying out of jail.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
We're stacking up on my TiAl and definitely stay on
the jail. I ain't been to jail since I called
my case.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Good for you, man, any any would you and would
you ever do like a like a like a fucking
collab project with anybody from l A and like a
rapper from l A.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I've done a collab like l A project before with.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Other rappers from him.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, who was on it? Sway r P? Yeah, Weirdo
was on it. Yeah, Phoenix was on it. Phoenix? Who
else was on the Ralphie? I love Ralphie, good people,

super good guy, Yeah and his people.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Draco was one of the most influential motherfuckers alive in
l A.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Everybody's like baby Draco's.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah, he was still music. I still with Draco music,
oh for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
And there's like there's so much of it that's still
just like not out right. He recorded at like a
really prolific rate. You know, some guys don't record as much,
so it's like when they passed like pop smoke, we
got one album, you know what I'm saying, and it
was kind of stitched together, but like Draco's got records.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Man, that's crazy. I didn't even think of that. Pop smoke.
They don't only drop like one like album.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
So since he died, only one album dropped.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Because Vonn and jusedon dropped hell albums.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, well them, dudes, I mean Juice were recorded at
a very high pace, you know what I'm saying. And
like the thing about guys who are melodic, there's so
many ideas that just get laid down off the top
of their heads that like, man, if like if you're
like a like a real songwriter or like you you
really got the gift to do the melody shit, brothers,

I mean, Alexis my artist, Alexis is fucking who sass
Walker try to sign no shit? Yeah, it was like,
who is it? He used to go by brown Boy Madge,
now that he goes by Alexus. Now he's a Mexican singer.
He's hard. Yeah, yeah, I gotta tap you all in man.
But yeah, man, we'll appreciate you pulling up.

Speaker 1 (46:09):

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Finally we got to make it happen, bro, pay so
pay so Boom,
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Who Killed JFK? For 60 years, we are still asking that question. In commemoration of the 60th anniversary of President John F. Kennedy's tragic assassination, legendary filmmaker Rob Reiner teams up with award-winning journalist Soledad O’Brien to tell the history of America’s greatest murder mystery. They interview CIA officials, medical experts, Pulitzer-prize winning journalists, eyewitnesses and a former Secret Service agent who, in 2023, came forward with groundbreaking new evidence. They dig deep into the layers of the 60-year-old question ‘Who Killed JFK?’, how that question has shaped America, and why it matters that we’re still asking it today.

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

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