#465 - MC Magic

Interview with MC Magic on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, y'all, it's your boy MC magic from a Zilla.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Baby, Bootleg Cavs, show Man, special guests in here, Mike
got mc magic, Thanks.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
For having me, my brother man. It's a good time
being here. Not the first time, of course, but congratulations
to you too, Arizona Boys up Baby.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes, sir man, you got the new album out right now?
God bless Chicanos. Which is it's like a short but
sweet project?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Eleven records, eleven eleven songs?

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Is that short now?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I guess it is? Now right.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm thinking like you've had some albums with some fucking
joints on there.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, nineteen nineteen songs, and you know, we live in
a different era, Bootleg. Matter of fact, most of the
people that give advice about how to release your music,
they say, stay away from albums. Nobody pays attention to
the whole album. Just do single, single, single single. But
I'm from the old school man. I think an album
has a special place in my heart and a special
place in real music lover's heart.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
And I feel like you have a fan base that
most artists don't have. Most artists are trying to get
thrown into the algorithm of the single I see, I see.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
They try to you know, get like in a bottle,
get a TikTok hit mean you have like fans who
will like break bread you know.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
No doubt, and man, man, we really do. Man, it's crazy.
And after thirty years of almost thirty years check it out.
In twenty twenty five will be thirty years that my
first album drop. And it's also thirty years of my
wedding anniversary.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Wow, wait, thirty years since which album?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Don't worry coming out the Phex lost the Love.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I was about to dude, I'm old as fun damn
you know, but I'm proud of it. I'm proud of
you should be longevity. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, people are talking about, hey, bro, how come Google
says you're forty seven? I no, I'm fifty seven and
I earned them.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, that's good though, man, feel like to like, you know,
I always say, like, you know, if you can move
the it's really easy to watch people go in and
out of this business, you know, whether it's hip hop, pop, whatever.
When they move like assholes, when they move with like
a lot of disrespect, and I feel like you've always
kind of made sure that you move a certain direction

(02:20):
a certain way while also kind of like, you know,
staying true to yourself and.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
No doubt, no doubt, You're a big relationships guy. You know,
I'm big on integrity. Can if you say I'm gonna
meet you at ten, I'm that guy that I was
late today, Guys, I wasn't throwing the shot. But but
not just not just meetings, you know in general. You
know when you when you do a solid for someone, sure, whatever,

(02:45):
whatever it is. I'm big on integrity because at the
end of the day, you can lose all your money,
you can lose all your belongings. But your word is gold. Yep,
your word is bond. And that's a New York thing.
You know what is bond?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Kid? For sure? For sure?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And I believe that.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Can you walk me through. I want to get to
a few things with the album. But the last song
of the album, you guys did a remake that Drodi
and Oates had thrown out there randomly. It was out
for a second, it was and I told them when
they dropped it, I said, hey, you guys should reach
out to Magic. I'm not sure the specifics of that record,

(03:22):
because it did come out on Upstairs. Yeah, right, And
from what I understand.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Joe Lopez John is the owner, Okay, Joe's his wife.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
So from what I was always told was that they're
not the easiest people to clear things.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I see, you know, I don't know how many people
have reached out to them to clear things.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
But we got a homegirl who redid the summer nights, okay,
and it was a up uphill battle. I see, I
believe it, But but how so can you kind of
give me what you guys did to actually officially release
the song.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I was happy that they did it because because really
it's it's respect. If the song wasn't good, they wouldn't
even touch it. So I take it as as a
as a as respect when they remade pretty Girl and
they just called it pretty Girl. But one of the
problems in music is if you have the same title
royalty wise, percentage wise, it's hard for them for Askap

(04:15):
and b and might have figured out because they got
the same title and it was the same song, and
I think that was the mistake that they made. Didn't
add a letter to it or something to distinguish it,
and so uh, real quickly it got it got it
got taken down because of copyright issues, and I couldn't
do nothing about that because they owned the master, you know,

(04:38):
even though I wrote it and produced it. Uh and
they they owned the master. So they took it down.
And and those guys reached out to me after the fact,
you know, I talked to Drodi. I said, don't worry
about it, man, Let's just remake it with no samples.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
So that's what I did. You you re sang it.
That's kind of really did everything.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
There's no samples in the new version of the original,
but it still feels like the original.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well that's what I was gonna say, because is that
kind of like what Taylor Swift recently did.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, exactly, she re recorded her whole.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, it's a new master of a song that I created.
You know, an IP You can't you can't take that away.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
You don't take that away from you because you write
that song. Yeah, that's so it's a nice loophole.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, it's a good loophole in the music industry. I mean,
Taylor Swift has made billions off off of doing that.
You know, she tells everybody go get my new compilation
of the same song.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, and it's a new recording.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's a new recording of the same song. And so
it's her master now it's no longer the master that
she got a fat advance.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
For, right, Yeah, that's were they happy about it?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, they were, and and and we finished it back
in December.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
No, no, I mean upstairs records.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I don't know, man, Yeah, yeah, we don't. We don't talk.
We have no issue. I mean, no, no kind of relationship.
Only I knew that.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I just didn't know if like they'd like try to hate.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, they haven't told me anything they have. But I
didn't break any rules, for sure, break any rules. I mean,
that's my original lyrics, something about you. Those were my lyrics,
you feel me, for sure? And so just to re
sing my lyrics, yeah, it's no problem.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
And so you guys when Ot was in Phoenix, you
guys shot a video in Phoenix for that song. We did,
and I remember me and Ote would talk about it
all the time and he'd be like, man, I don't
know when the fuck that thing's coming out.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
We had shot that video so long.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
So what happened is is that I, uh that I finished.
We finished that one in December, and we shot the
video because Ot was doing the show in December, so
we piggybacked off the video the same day of his
video actually and uh our same day of his show,
I mean. And so I had it done and then
I got two more features from him, that Bounce and

(06:43):
another one that I haven't dropped yet that I'm saying
that's in the can. But the hold up was getting
the clearance from Interscope. So getting that waiver from Interscope
it took a little bit. We got out, we had
all the paperwork done, all the finances were done, all
the legal fees were done, everything was taken care of,
and Interscope just kind of took their time. And then
finally on a Tuesday, they said they sent me an

(07:06):
email said if you want to drop this Friday, go ahead,
but other other than that, we don't know when we
can give you a date. And I'm like, it's dropping
this Friday.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, because you guys shot I remember when Coyote was here,
we did an interview and then either that night or
first thing in the morning, they had to catch a
flight to.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
He's right, yeah, right the next day, Uh, they left
from here, I think the next day. It was crazy
because I really felt a lot of love from Ot
that day. Because our video shoot was supposed to start
at two pm in Houston. We again, we worked it
around his schedule.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
He was did shoot both videos, the one that's coming
out soon.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yes, he shot and edited both. So we got there.
It was for a two pm video shoot, it was
supposed to be, but the airlines were having problems and
we were We were four hours late, me and the YODI.
So we pulled up, you know, in the rental change
right into filming.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Damn, you wouldn't even know. You would not have guessed
watching the video exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
And then Ot he had already been there waiting four
hours for us.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It was done at this little place called Chicano Boulevard.
Oh shit, you know, and it really it w went
well with the title too.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
You know. I saw do boy pulled up. But who
else was in the video? The baby ba Baby Bash
was pushing up LOGI shouts to.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Bash, Yeah, my brother bash Man. We've been doing so
much work together.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's crazy to think because me and Bash had a
conversation recently about how he's never been busier on the
road in his career. Yeah, and I feel like the
same is probably said for you.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, the same is for me. You know, a lot
of things have changed, keV. You know, even just going
out to do what they called promo shows back in
the days, you know, radio stations and the label would
abuse the artists so that they both can win, and
the artists went on to be Yeah, artists would go
home broke.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
A look or for the record appeah yeah, yeah, to.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Get the ad, to get the spins to get you.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Sure you did a lot of those, of course. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Of course. Even after I left I went back independent
with the with the Magic City, I still had to
do a lot of radio stuff, but it really helped.
It really helped because Sexy Lady, I mean, of all
my albums, Magic City is the only one that went
number one on Billboard. Wow, number one on the independent chart.
It's called the heat Seeker chart.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, So in two thousand and six, I went
number one on Billboard.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
And you had a real hit.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I mean, Sexy Lady was like, is I just want
to know, Like I live in Arizona at the time
and that song if you cannot turn the fucking radio
on with out hearing that song.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I remember the night jock name was Sander.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Pena, who's currently in LA doing her thing.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's right. So it was it was a top nine
at nine. They would do every night, and I think
I was number one for at least two months straight.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
That was amazing.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
And there's still not a real video.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
No, it's just that one thing that I shot at
the rate of state dais three day times three. My
son who's been with me for the whole journey, I
think he was in high school. We filmed an unplugged
version at a studio.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Have you thought about I don't know what your relationships
like with Caine, but have you Juvenile just shot a
video from four hundred degrees earlier this year? Yeah, I
mean we're talking about that was nineteen ninety nine. Yeah,
and he just shot and re released the video. Do
you think it's a good idea to be a sexy
lady video you?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I feel like you have to do anyboy. We got
to do a sexy lady video.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Bro, especially if you're gonna do I mean, I don't
I'm necessary say because you're always on the road, so
you're always doing shows. Oh yeah, but I think you said, Oh,
I think for in twenty twenty six, Yeah, the twenty
year anniversary.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah yeah, you guys should get that in the can.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
That'd be sick drop it and then you could drop
like a special commemorative Yeah, think just for the fans.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I would like that. I think it's beautiful. Good with Kine,
with djk oh yeah, we're brothers. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
then then what are you doing? Yeah, yeah, you got to.
But I would do it in two years.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Drop it in two years on the anniversary of Because
that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
That's crazy that that song.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Why don't you sponsor it that we can put executive
produced by Bootleg I get some sponsors for you.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
You said odd socks and beyond the.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Odds that motherfucker shots of hard Dean. Yeah, but no,
I think that'd be dope.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Though, that would be dope. That would be dope.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Uh. You know, of the of the eleven songs on
the album, I have a video done for all of
them except one except two.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, that's crazy and we're working on those as well.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
And how are you going to roll them all out?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Just gonna space them ount space them out. I mean
by Christmas, everything will be out.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
You you got Jenny six nine on the album I
remember you and I had a conversation about you guys
potentially because you maybe working together on like some official
music through your label.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeh, that's something you guys ever worked out?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
You know, I her to sign her to the label
and kind of a guide the the the brand, the
Jenny six y nine brand. You know. I had a
vision to kind of make it like a modern day
version of what j Lo was, you know what I'm saying,
in her in her era. But Jenny's got her own ideas,
and every artist does. She's got her own ideas. And

(12:19):
I told her, you know, my I guess my style
is not as as U ratchet, you know, and Jenny
likes the you know, she has a ratchet brand. I'll say.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I mean, look, I think she's dope. Yeah, I like
I like that. What was that record she had?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Was it with you? Was it the Riverside? Riverside?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I wrote that one.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, that's it was hard.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah it was gang banging. Yeah yeah, Riverside loved it,
you know, dropped it. It was on my label, that was
on your label. Yeah, we got two records together, and
the new ones on my and the other the new
ones on my.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Album can You Can You Know?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's it's it's interesting because you've kind of been a
part of almost every era of what we would consider
like the different eras of.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Mexican hip hop.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, and I feel like in twenty twenty four it's
never been more thriving. It feels like, you know, there's
so much energy, there's so much you know, whatever you're
looking for, there's that. And artists are getting signed to
major labels. Yeah, you've got a guy like Mexicano or
Tea going gold, going platinum over and obviously you know

(13:30):
a guy like Lefty gun Play who's going crazy. And
it feels like it's it's kind of like that. I mean,
it's it's it's the best time because it feels like
the music industry is finally When I say the music industry,
I mean people in New York, people who are like
signed everywhere. The major label folks are really looking at
what's going on. Why do you think that the timing

(13:51):
is finally kind of coming together for Mexicans and hip
hop perseverance?

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, you know, we come from from a background where
no matter well, we're never going to stop trying, whether
you work in the fields, whether you work as a
construction worker, whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Mexicans don't give up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And when I say Mexicans, the whole world that doesn't
know that there's a difference between a Mexican from Mexico
and a Mexican from America. I talked, I'm talking about
all of us. I'm talking about all of us. But
that's why I went with the word Chicano, because I
think that that describes my demo a little bit better
than just saying Mexican, because I was born in Mexico,

(14:30):
but I feel more Chicano, you know, kind of like
Pac he was born in New York, but he read
the West Coast, you know what I'm saying. So, but
I think it's because of perseverance. You know, the one
that Corrido Dumbalos took off in twenty twenty during the pandemic.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
It wasn't planned, it was organic.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Right, you know. And I think that was one of
the things that kicked off the whole domino.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Of No for sure, because it's like I think I
was talking to jop and he was saying four out
of the five top Latin artists were all Mexican. Yeah
on Spotify, and the one who wasn't was Bad Bunny exactly.
And I was like, damn Like and then, like you said,
the corrido shit is like you know, like growing up
in Phoenix, DJ and Jaguars, like we had to play

(15:12):
all that shit, of course, but it's crazy that it's
like now, it's like it's so big, it's it's it's
and a lot of these like I was telling Jop,
I was like, man, y'all look like rappers for real.
Like these dudes got double cups and chains.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
It's it's a clash of cultures for sure. It's a
clash of cultures. And then you got the kid Hobby
from Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Amazing. That kid is so on fire.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
He is killing it so on fire.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
I remember Alexis maj put me onto him three or
four years ago when he was like a like, I
don't know, probably fourteen thirteen something.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
You know what it is about this whole movement, keV
Is it's not just bilingual. It's by cultural, right, and
so not everyone's by cultural, not that he's now by
cultural because he came and got the swag like the
interview you know, you and Jop had so he came
and got the hip hop swag from the American Mexicans,
the chicanom right, you see what I'm saying. And he said, man,

(16:05):
this is.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Cool, this is cool.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So now it's just it's just it's a big melting pot,
you know. And I love Corridos too. You know my
son sings Colriedos.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Say you have your son on your album? Yeah, what was?
Because your son's been also rolling with you a lot,
like yeah, he's been he's been been to your shows.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
He's there helping out.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
He's my merch guy. Yeah, so he's going from the
merch table to the stage.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Which son of yours was also writing scooters? Was it
him or was it.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
He's They were both right shooters. But he's the pro
because there was some serious fucking scooter.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, he's going to compete in Rome, oh ship next month,
like on a razor. Yeah that's a bad word, bro,
always that I don't know the culture is is, but
but is razor like frown upon? It's not calling a
BMX or a Huffey bike.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
You you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Oh, you're like on a Hoffey Right, He's like, Okay,
I get it.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I guess that's what Grandma got you for Christmas. And
what's it like, because I've heard a lot of your
son stuff. He's obviously shooting videos and stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
He's signed to you, Like, what's that been like to
kind of guide him into the music ship and like
he's doing that kind of music which is hot and
like the music sounds really good.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of
fun because we genuinely love the music. Like I told you,
we're bicultural, you know, when we're having a gosada at
my sister in laws or at my mother in laws
or that's the music we're listening to, you know, in
addition to the hip hop, the classics, the old school stuff,
and so it's real. It's it's not just like, oh,

(17:31):
let's let's chase this lane. That's really who he is.
That's really who he is, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
That's dope, man.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Is there is there any part of like being having
your son signed to you where he like fights back
on you, Like, do you guys have any battles where
you just got.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
To let him win one?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, no, No, we don't see.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Does he trust kind of like your vision because you
obviously you're you've built this independent.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well check this out, bootleg. Being an artist. Being an artist,
I've already gone through all the feelings that are young
artists has gone through. So when they act a certain way,
whether it's him or Jay Rocks to her.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
By the way, she's doing great.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
She's doing amazing. I understand them because it comes from
an artistic point of view, you know what I'm saying.
And so I let him. I let him. But on
the few issues that I've pushed him on, he's taken.
He's taking my advice and it's paid off. He was
just telling me yesterday, Yo, Pops, I got this new
chord progression. He didn't know, you know what a chord
was when we started, you know. So now he's on

(18:28):
a guitar finding what works best.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Does he record at home? Yeah, because you got the
home studio.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I got a home studio. He's got a home studio
and h and we go everywhere and record as well.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Super dope man. And then he's is he opening up
most of the shows.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
He doesn't open up. Right now, we breaking in the
middle of my set and he does two songs, so
we're also easing them into the stage as well.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yo, what's it like being like because how many days
a year are you doing all of them? You know
what I'm saying? Like if you had, like guess it's
like one hundred days a year.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, we average one hundred constants a Year's so crazy?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, and what do you think?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
What like like you being busier now on the road
than ever. And it's so funny because like sometimes I
have to educate people who aren't hip to what you
what you got going on? Yeah here in La like
not like people who know no you know, yeah, but
like quote unquote industry people, I'd be like, yeah, Magic
sells off the Novo like twice a year, and they'll
be like what the Novo And I'm like yeah, like yes,

(19:25):
like you know, but it's crazy, Like what would you
attribute the the because there's something about what you've built
where if there's a festival, yoah, we're gonna put Magic
on the festival. I mean you just performed out what
was the thing you just did in downtown La a
few weeks ago?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Downtown La was it's called Persian Square. Yeah, it's a
city event that they put on and they say, sign
up for the guest list. You can get in free,
but you have to be twenty one because it's you know,
it's just it was crazy. It was crazy. It had
to turn two thousand people away, so it capped out
at like seven thousand. They said no more, so they
turned people away, and you know, the fans get mad

(20:04):
because they register. Sure, but a lot of times when
you register for a free event, you know from working
at radio.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
It's first first come for serve exactly once it hits capacity. Yes, yes,
but I was gonna say, like, you know, you had
you had mentioned kind of like going through the era
of your career where you had to do some of
the radio shit, which I think that I don't think
a lot of that's happening anymore, to be fair, because
radio shows are kind.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Of Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I like radio because that's where I came from. That's
what made my original music hits. But I know it
doesn't have the same impact as as TikTok.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
But I feel like now you're like you're kind of like, uh,
orchestrating a lot of your own shit, Like like you're
literally on the side of the stage, like when I
saw you when you when you had them be writers
guys back out on on on on the road.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
The Reunion tour in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, and it was like.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
You and little Rob I think was your main support
at the note, but you were like like during Rob's performance,
you were like helping with what was going on on
the screen.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yes, yes, I'm hands on, but yeah, but like a
lot of the shows you do are you're booking them yourself, right, Yeah,
it's like you and me and Big d are the
promoters a big D. Yeah, me and Big d are
the promoters behind it. It's a little two man operation.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
But it works, no, for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
And I feel like more artists with real fans should
do that shit instead of depending on like somebody in
like a local market or live.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Nation to book you.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I advise it because you know, if you let a
big promoter get a hold of you, they're going to
give you. Then I say, okay, we'll give you a
million dollars for the tour, and the tour will make
five million.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
And yeah, they'll give you an advance.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
You got your MILLI, you got Yourmelli already, And then
they bite you off of that. Remember the hotels and.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
So it's a writer.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, like a like I just saw like a record country.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, John Bellyon just did it. I just saw him
on talking about it. He signed to deal with Live
Nation and he said he took an advance on however
many shows he had to do, right, Yeah, And he
said that when he got the invoices, he was like,
you know, they're charging me for toilet paper.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Like they're charging me for like stuff I don't eat on.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
The road, Fynasy bottles eight free.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
He's like, I don't even eat this ship. But every
venue you have to put a writer. Yeah, And he's like, dude,
he brought himself out of his deal with Live Nation.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
That's crazy. Yeah, we never got a deal like that,
and which is for the better because we learned the
hard Nune.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
But you also, I mean you do a lot of
stuff with like a bike. Bobby d shoutut to Bobby dede.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Byby my brother Bobby Fresh.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah he's out. He's been murdering ship.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah yeah, Bobby, he don't play. He's serious. He's a
Chicago too, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
For sure, God blessed Chicanos. Talk to me about how
you have been, Like, can.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
You give me a night, Like, what are your thoughts
being a guy from Arizona Because I've obviously always kind
of been like lightly hip to some of the politics
that happened in California, but not as much as before
I moved here. When I moved here, I was very
very like okay, because you know, in Arizona, like I
got cousins in prison, and you know, are stuff out

(23:01):
there is a lot different. Yeah, I feel like in California, Uh,
there's a lot of beef amongst other artists, yeah, or
Mexican like yeah, and and somehow you've always been able
to kind of like stay.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Clear of any of that drama.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Amen.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I think you know it speaks to you as a person.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, well my music was never that kind of you.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
It was never that music.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
But like you know, you're on the I'm sure, I'm
sure I come into California as much as you have.
But like, what are your thoughts just on like that
scene of like you know, because I was just talking
about this, like, Yo, I feel like there's so much
opportunity for the state of California. A lot of these
artists to move together. It's like it's like it's like
Lefty Gunplay worked with an artist from the north right.

(23:44):
It would like be huge, you know what I mean.
But it feels like there's like this huge invisible barrier.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, you know, from my point of view, that whole,
that whole, whether you're from southern Cali or Northern County,
all that man, that that's that's a touchy subject that
I've I've never gotten close to. But I think it's
it's deeper than just the streets. I think it comes
from the inside. I think from the prisons. They control it.
And if someone's trying to be a good Samaritan and then

(24:11):
bring everybody together, the guys on the inside are calling
the shot, saying you know, no till yes.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I feel like Goldts gets held and he's like, I'm like,
this guy's trying to make everybody work together.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Toe's a great guy. Yeah, TOAs is a good dude.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
When he comes to Phoenix, we play ball and he's
promising with my ass on the court next time.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
For people who don't know magic who you got like some.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
A little bit, I ain't no baby bast hoof.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Too for sure.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
How fun has it been just being on the road
with Bash as much as you guys hit the road together.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Man, it's dope.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
He calls me benchet magic, that's his word. Yeah, it's
that's dope. Man. Bash knows that we've already got like
everything in place. It's a protocol for our concerts, and
all he needs to know is what time do I
go on?

Speaker 4 (24:56):
I feel like, would you guys do a joint project? Man?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
We just we just did one that was super incredible
and then at the last minute of Renter was thrown
in the program. I can't tell you the full details.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
So you guys are supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, it just all fell apart.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
So the music's been recorded.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
It wasn't a whole album. It was just one song.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
So just one song.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
It was one song and it fell apart at the end.
That's a music video. It fell apart. Yes, yeah, I can't.
I can't tell you the whole thing because because we're family,
right and it's family business. But that's what happened, and
it broke my heart. Bro.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I feel like, if you guys did like a song
album and that's crazy. I mean, you guys could tour
off that for like a whole other year, Like.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
We're already touring for I got dates in October next year. Bro, Yeah,
that's no problem there, My son Daniel tells me. He says, pops,
stop touring, take a trip, go overseas, get inspired by
something different, and come back a whole new person.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah. I like that mentality. Take a little break. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
I mean, but look, man, and if the dates are dating,
and then you got your protocol figured out like you've,
you've you're you're the most responsible artist I've ever seen
on the road in my life.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Right. You know, most people come to come to town,
they want to hang out, they get drunk, they want
to party. Magic's in and he's out.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's what it is. I'm here for
the music, the business, and the fans.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm not here, you know, to hold around to get drunk,
none of that stuff. That's never been my thing, you know.
I've always had a problem when they take something something
awful and they put a good name on it and
then and then make you eat the garbage because it's
got a pretty name, like getting drunk, killing somebody, drinking
and driving, somebody taking a knife at you, which my

(26:44):
nephew's gone through it because they were drunk and had
an argument at a cemetery. But that's just an awful
thing that causes bad things. And then they call it, oh,
it's partying. Yeah, you see, they put a pretty name
on a horrible thing, right, And I have a problem
with that.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I've seen coming from the projects and seeing you know,
men beat their wives and seeing family fall apart, and
and I just, man, I just I can't sit with it.
I can't sit with it. Uh. And and you know,
this is probably one of the reasons why my fans
continue to come back, because that's not what we push.
You're not gonna catch me, you know, uh in a

(27:24):
nightclub anymore.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
That's just I mean, you're pushing love. Man.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I was always say you like you're you're pushing love
music like positivity.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Love is the best, Love is the most magic there is.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Brother, Yeah, talk to me about so I've had recently.
I wouldn't say I'm definitely not necessarily a I'm definitively
not a Trump supporter, but I'm definitely not a fucking
Biden supporter anymore. And I've seen I've seen you up
under the comments on a lot of posts. Uh huh

(27:56):
politically where like like because because I think a lot
of people will cast the right as racist. Yeah, and
then the left is the party of the love. And
I think that at the end of the day, I
think we've all been guilty of like writing off either side.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, what are your thoughts on? Just like because I've
seen you in the comments, I get hell for it,
you get help for it. But just like you know,
with Trump, I feel like, you know, I think that
we have like a four year example of him being president.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
We still we already know what it was like and
we didn't get in any New Wars, and now we
know what it was like under Biden too.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Right, exactly right.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
So you know I always tell people, I'm like, look, man,
like either side is not the boogey man. We're still here, right,
he didn't take over the government he left, you know
what I mean, Like we didn't.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
We weren't in any New Wars.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Like it's it's okay to give credit where credits due.
I think some people get wrapped up in the meanness.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Of everybody tells me magic, don't talk politics, don't get
into politics. Don't do it. Don't start, you know, saying
you're a Trump supporter. But let me, let me just
bring it to the very basic you know, is I
was born in Mexico, bro, and so I came to America.
And when my dad and when my dad and mom

(29:20):
broke up, the government took care of me. The government
gave us food stamps, The government gave us free cheese,
you know, powdered milk to survive. This is where I
come from, right, and so this this, this country gave
me something good. So obviously I love this country for
what it's given me. I'm living the American dream. Sure,

(29:42):
I'm living the American dream.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Quite literally because of because we have free enterprise.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
You're living in the American dream.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Like this podcast.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
You don't have to get a government permission to start
your podcast. So what the left is doing, they're moving
closer and closer to controlling everything. They're moving. You know,
when I say the left, I mean the democ Radit
partner right now. Okay, So that being said, that being said,
that's why I love to keep what was good for

(30:10):
this country. And a lot of people are emotionally driven,
and so when the left tells you.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Oh he's racist.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
That gets you emotionally, like, oh my god, he said
this about blacks. Oh my god, he did this to
the Mexicans. Oh my god. He hates people that are
crossing the border. But the people that were crossing the
border when I came across, they really wanted the American dream.
The people that are crossing the border now they want
to murder Americans. You see what I'm saying. There's a
big difference of what's going on.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I think I think we got like like there's like
I think the one I just saw an interview with
the president of El Salvador, who has cleaned up El
salve Yes, he's.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
G he went from the worst country in the world
to the best.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
It was the most dangerous country in the Western Hemisphere,
more dangerous than Haiti, and now it is the safest
country in the Western Hemisphere with lower murder rates in
the United States.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
And so what he did was anybody who was a
part of the two major gangs out there, Yeah, I
don't want to say them by name, but you know
they're all in jail.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
But then he also in this interview, he did he
said anybody who was had been in America or.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Wanted to go back.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I just sent I send him back, like make your
way to Maria. And they're also and Amelia Rojas was
telling me that they also were doing that in Venezuela,
where certain people who had longer prison sentences, they'd let
him out as long.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
As they asked the country they made.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
They promised to make their way out of the countries. Crazy.
Now I'm not saying obviously.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
You know, I've had people close to me that have
came over recently that are here for work.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
You know, there is good people, but everybody there is
this huge spike of people coming in see that we've
never seen before.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, I explained this, and and and to somebody in
this way say, for instance, uh, you have a daughter.
You have a daughter, and she's beautiful. You want to
protect her, but there's somebody on the outside that wants
to get your daughter from you, Okay, and then they
tell they tell the daughter's mom. You know, Kevin's a piece.
You know how people are hating against the government, against America,

(32:10):
Like there's people burning flags of this great country.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Actually, I think a lot of that shits set up
to be fair.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And exactly that's exactly my point. Just so let's go
back to your daughter. Right, So there's an outsider who
wants to murder your daughter, who wants to probably rape
your daughter.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, because you had you.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Have a good family, you have a good country, you
have a good thing. And so what they do is
they first turn her against you. Your daddy's been doing this,
So that's what that's an agenda that's going on from
the outside so they can finally murder and rape your daughter.
Her name is America, right, Okay, you feel what I'm saying,
And that's the agenda that that really you know, you

(32:47):
know on radio, in radio, when they put songs on
the heavy rotation, you love them because you hear them
a lot.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
That's called programming. Oh, that's what they do to us
with the news. The news is.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Programming people to hate their own country. Sure, you know,
to say whatever was good, they're gonna turn it into bad.
Even the Bible says that believe in the days where
good will be bad and bad will be good. We
have good artists praising the devil on their records, right right, right,
right right.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
You know, this whole.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Agenda is serious and it's taking people's souls and lives,
and it's gonna ruin what was once a beautiful, free country.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
That's why I support Trump. Yeah, I support I feel
like both.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
If you look at everyone's donors on both sides, they're
pretty much the same, which to me is the problem.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, because they divide us on like this. The part
was accept except except.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
What Donald Trump has called out George Sorols by name.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, I just want them to each tell Blackrock to
fuck off respectfully and Larry Fink.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
But nonetheless they're all part of the same team. But
that's I mean, all the same.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
They're running the world.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yes, my way is what they do is.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
They and Biden is their puppet.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
They take the twenty percent of things we all disagree
on up right, whether it's racial stuff, whether it's gun control,
whether it's abortion. They put it in a ball and
they throw it and then everyone goes and chases it while.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Over here, yes, well it's divide and conquer right there.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
And so that's what they did with your daughter, right,
They divided you guys.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Now they conquered you guys. So that's what they're doing
with America. They're separating everybody there, even staged protests that
are going on in colleges.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
All that stuff is being well.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I feel like even like recently there was the pro Palestinian,
the protest gays Regazza.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
That one, no, no, no, it was.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
It was when Yahoo was at the Senate and there
was like they were protesting, but the dudes who were
like lighting shit on fire were like random white dudes.
They were hired who nobody could fucking find on the internet.
And there was brown people trying to stop the dude
from setting the flag on fire.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
It was easy because they got but how was it
The cameras were ready for when the guys set the
fucking flag on fire.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
They had more press than than that. And Yahoo thing.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Exactly crazy booms like you turned on CNN and it's
like you see this guy burning this flag.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
But the programming is going on. Not only it was
easy for them to get there because the borders were open.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
It's crazy, man, It's it's it's wild. Who are you
a fan of?

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Man?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Obviously you got O T And Drody and Jenny six
nine on the album, But is there anybody else and
shots of Coyote? Is there anybody else who you're just like,
you know, wanting to work with from this newer generation
of artists.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I'm always down to work. I really want to get
a record in with I just I just forgot his name.
The hottest kid in l A. I just met him
not long ago. Lefty No, no, no, thet the real
he's really making like moves. He just did a record
with U with dres Oh, Roddy Rag Sorry, Rowdy man.

(35:52):
I I met him the other day. He's fire and
he was surprised that I knew he was.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
I love Rowdy.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I want to get a record in with him and
with Dregs too. Rex Dope to get a record brother,
his brother.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Is popping y. What's this, I forget his name. What's
his name, Drex's.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Brother Negro something.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah yeah no so yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I love Rowdy and I love drugs too. I like
their little movement when it comes to hip hop. But
my ultimate feature keV is really more r and b Ish,
more emcy magic ish, more like shadd is my ultimate.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's the one concert if I could my dream concerts
to see her live. Of course, I don't know if
you ever tour again, but man shot a live.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, I think like back in. I want to say
two thousand I'm just say twenty fourteen for lack of
a better year. She had a concert coming up here
in Phoenix. We bought tickets and my wife said, I'm
gonna put them away so we don't lose them. She
lost the tickets and couldn't find them, and three years,
four maybe four years after the concerts, she's like, oh,

(36:59):
here's they were my sock drawer.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
That's crazy. How active are you? Obviously you have your son,
you have Jay Rocks. How active are you in trying
to just bring new music to your label, whether it's
a single deal.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, you know, I'm about quality, not quantity. So I'm
not like trying to chase everybody. Not only that. Just
like I told you earlier with Jenny, I have a
moral meter, you know, if the dudes, if the dudes
get getting on the mic and I can't play it
for my mom, I can't play it at the family barbecue.
Rather not. I'm not starving just to make a little

(37:34):
bit of money off of anybody. I'm not a major label,
you know. I just rather put quality than quantity. So
if somebody really stands out like Jay Rocks did and
impresses me, and you know, I might take a chance
on that, because it takes a lot to really develop
an artist. Artist development is not easy. It takes long

(37:55):
branding an artist, learning how to brand and teaching them
all these things as well. It's not easy. And everyone
comes in with a mindset already. So so you're obviously
not going to hear any any street gang rap on
my label and it's not going to happen because I
don't I don't need to be in that world.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Not for sure, And it's not it wouldn't be true
to what you do.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's not true to me. Yeah, you're sure, you know.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yo, You've were kind of the I feel like you
were going live with your fans. Before going live with
your fans was a thing, yes on Facebook. It was
on Facebook, yes, And now obviously everybody goes live on
indem Yes, So it's like it's like obviously it's like expected.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah, how much.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Like are you noticing like new because because you go
to one of your shows and they'll.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Be like like a lot of young people there.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Eighty percent of my crowd are like fourteen to twenty five.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
And so it's it's crazy to think that, like as
somebody who's been out for thirty years, right, Yeah, that
you're able to still gain these new fans. What are
what are the things you're doing? Is it the is
it the parents? Is it the social media? Like you
know some parents are playing in the car.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I think it's a combination of that. But of the
one of the things that everybody still tells me. Most
of my fans, I watch your TikTok every time you
go live. Wow, So I tik talk live, TikTok Live.
It used to be Facebook, but Facebook got greedy with
the audience and they started capping the audience smaller and
smaller and smaller. They want you to spend money on
them instead of giving you your actual followers. You know,

(39:20):
I got one point four million followers on there, and
and if I put up a post, I get eight likes.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
No, Facebook's the worst because they want you to they
want you to press the ad on them.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, so the virality factor is better on TikTok right now.
It could change, It could change. And so yeah, my
fans catch me on TikTok live and I take phone
calls live.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Which is kind of dope. But radio, Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Old school radio and they call in and they get
so excited.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Oh my god, I died like three hundred times. You
picked up.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
That just feels so good.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
You know you got like a separate cell phone line
for that.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I got four lines, four of them. Yeah, I got
four lines in my studio and they rotate. Obviously we
had just one line. It would get crowded, wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Oh, I bet that's dope. What has been like for
you so far?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Your favorite era of your career because you've done the
low Rider shows, when Low Writer shows were crazy, Yeah,
all the way up into doing like these newer shows
with Basher with them be Riders. Like, what's been kind
of like your favorite era of your career?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
My favorite era is when I was starting going from
the Swap Meet to getting my first album on right,
you know, the coming out the Phex the Lost and Love.
That was my favorite artistic era. This is my favorite
era now because I'm in full control m So. I
went through eras where people were robbing me and making
millions off of this and that and dividing my group.

(40:38):
It was just so much dividing and conquer a bunch
of that. But this is my favorite now because I'm
really in the driver's seat and I like that. I
like I'm a control freak.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Call shots.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yes, yes, are.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
You still doing the makeup and all that good stuff?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah. I would say, is there is there anything new
that you've id to the line? That's yes.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Before Christmas, Me and Jay Rox have a collapse palette
coming that is phenomenal. It's phenomenal. We worked on it
so hard. It's taken about a year to develop because
of the detailed intricacies. It's not just your average palette.
It's a collector's item.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
So you got the makeup, you have us, the Bluetooth speakers, Bluetooth.
What else is what else? The hoodies go good?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
The beanies go good? What else we got on the website?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
The tumblers, the diamond tumblrs.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
You got the tumblrs.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, they gang bang, they go, they do good.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
I bet hey yo yo ma.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I mean everybody drinks Starbucks.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
I just get the cup from Starbucks I need to
get I do have a tumble.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Girls like to have their own personal right, you know
what I'm saying. For sure, you know you don't want
to be like on a straw with nobody else's lips.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
They're going it, you know, what what's something that you know,
you and a NBI riders. You guys did the reunion era,
which was about it.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I feel like it was one year a year.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, I know it's twenty nineteen because we're to go
into twenty twenty. And then they pulled a plug on us.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, I see them still doing stuff together. I just
saw them pop up on my timeline doing a live
show with just them two was How was that experience
because like you, I know, you guys had had like
a bit of a soured relationship.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah past, I mean, you know what, God bless them. Yeah,
God bless them. That's all I can say on that.
You know, it's it's it's an old era.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
But I'm saying it was you guys hitting the road
again together. Did it? Did it? Did it patch anything up?
Did it kind of show you?

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Maybe I was I've been on the right path this
whole time, just focusing on my own thing.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Like one of the there's two reasons that I did it.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Number one is because they kept asking me, man, let's
get back together. Let's get back together. It'd be dope
if like my family could come to one of our
concerts because they hadn't been doing anything for us. So
that was one reason I did it, you know, from
from Okay you the homies want this, you know. And
the other reason is I thought it would take my
concert attendance level through the roof, that I'd go from
from a twenty five hundred seater to an arena. But

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they just didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
It didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
They didn't do that. So we just and and fortunately
God stepped in. He threw the pandemic at us and
he says, look, look, look you'll find you're you're doing
fine by yourself.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
And that's what happened. You guys would never do a
single together, was it?

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Never again?

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Never again?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Never again?

Speaker 4 (43:19):
You're good?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, I'm good. I mean yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Has anybody tried to sample your ship that you had
to stop because you didn't like it?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
It's funny that you say that, but because usually if
they sample it, they'll ask they'll ask me to get
on it. So that's an automatic. You know. There's this
kid in New Mexico. He did his his version of
pretty Girl. It's called uh something about You Uh, featuring
his niece singing on the track. He sent it to
me and and I was I was happy that they
were doing it, and so they had no samples. I

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gave him a verse and put some talk box on it,
and yeah, get just to have it.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
It's a gift. That's a gift.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I don't need no royalties, I don't even know ride,
a credit, nothing have it. So to me, that's that's
a better thing to do is just give it a blessing.
And you know, because God sees everything.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Do you feel like I feel it's crazy because I
heard that bounce and I was like, Yo, this feels
like this feels like a fucking like a real hit, you.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Know what I'm saying. And it's got the talk box
on it.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yes, that's a that's a that's a good compliment, thank you.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
No, for sure, it's a banger, you know what I'm saying.
And like I feel like I feel like the talk
box is something that's kind of missing in hip hop now,
even on West Coast artist albums. I'm like, man, like,
I feel like that's missing, Like ye, like just a
little bit of that, like like Troutman love, you know
what I'm.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Saying, Yes, rest in peace, Roger Troutman, my hero. When
it comes to the talk box and I was talking
to to Coyote. I was talking to Coyote to Guappo,
and I was like, man, I think what you guys
need is like something similar to Bounce, but a little more,
a little more West Coast. Yes, and let's work on that.
Let's get that together for you. He goes, I'm down, magic,

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let's do it. So I want to give them their
They're really explosive there, Johnny, Dang, you know.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
I gotta be dope. That'd be dope.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Man.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Have you gotten a platinum or gold single? Yeah? I
feel like sexy ladies should be gone. I think it is.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I just don't look into those things.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
You got it, you got it? Yeah, I think it's
has to be platinum by now.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, it probably is. It's probably is. You gotta just
I just don't look into it.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
keV, you got to go on that. Ri I a
A yeah, I get it certified.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I just got so much going on, and I have so.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Many such a big symbol for like not just for
your career, but fe like Arizona.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Okay, yeah, I might look into it, like you're.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Gonna be able to be like, look, guys, I want
to plant them independently. I want to plant them independently.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Yes, yes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
See, but and you're you're mentioning people that really for
my artistic career don't matter to me.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
The fans matter, for sure.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I think like I think you're like a beacon of
hope for a lot of people in Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Okay, I'll take that. That's a big compliment too, for sure.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
I think like anytime we always talk about, like even
on my show, like we always talk about like who's
I'm like, you always got to put magic in the conversation.
Like to me, you're the goat of Arizona. Whether or
not people want to say, oh so and so wraps
better or whatever, whatever, it's like, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Like magic's taking like he's torn right now.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
And that's hard for me because you're talking about rap
and I'm not.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Like like a rapper rap right, But to me, you still.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
I'm not gonna get on. I'm gonna like and just
ah son No.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
But I just mean in terms of like obviously what
you've meant and like you've shown more like you've put
more of a light on the city than anybody ever.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
You're still toring.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
There's not another artist out of Arizona's doing one hundred
dates a year selling out right.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Man, that I just take the compliment. I said thank you.
I just say thank you. But I'm not looking to
go announce that to anybody, right, that's this is not
my thing.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
You got to get that plaque.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Man, It's not my thing.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
It's there. It's any boy. Should we go for placks
or what it's it's the plaques exist. I have to
by the way, people care, bro, I'm telling you. People
are gonna look at that shit and be like, yo,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
This logo was originally made for his brand. Oh shit,
it was originally made for his brand.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
And I liked this so much. Like that's the album cover.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
He said, God Bless Northern because that's his brand, God Brest.
You know, he grew up on Northern and uh in
Seventh Street and Northern out there in Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Shot to Seventh Street and Northern. I grew up on
fourteenth Avenue in dunlap.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Oh, I know where the lap is. I know where
the lap is. It's sunny slope.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yes. So anyway, he's the one that designed this whole
thing for his brand and I'm like, let me borrow it,
let's do it, let's do a T shirt drop together.
And then when they called me from the from the
interscope and said you're good to go this Friday, I'm like,
we're gonna go. We're just gonna go with this.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Oh wow. So the album cover and all that really
really kind of came together in.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
A week because it felt like it did feel like
it kind of came like out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
To be fair, yeah, like I knew you you guys had.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Those records together because I talked to Ot and his
dad a lot. But it did feel like, oh shit,
this MC magic album.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yes, absolutely, And I want to shout out other artists
on the album too. I love discovering artists that are
not that popular that have talent and put them on.
So this is a little girl named Alondra Santos. She
sings on the record with me and Jenny sixty nine
on You and Me. And there's also of course Trish
Toledo who's been known to sing oldies and stuff. We
got a song called Nobody Knows. We got a phenomenal

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video for that song. Nope, it's phenomenal. And I'm just excited,
and I'm excited for people to see Pretty Girl twenty four.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yo. I also think you gotta do like a new
Magic City album next. You think so Magic City would
be part three, right, it would be three?

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, Magic City Part three?

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Hey man, I always tell the story, but I've definitely
got an early copy of Magic City back in the
day and was selling it at the swap.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I made you some money, cat, yeah, you did well.
I was bootlegging two. I just didn't go with the brand.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
It's so crazy, like for people who don't know like
you really like legitimately started your career. There's a swabeat
in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
It's on fortieth Street in Washington, and you.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Were there every week, was it? Because Wednesday nights were cracking?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:08):
And then Friday, Saturday, Sunday, well, Saturday and Sunday were
really in the days.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Right, Saturday and Sunday were the main days.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Uh. And then Wednesday night you can go buy a car?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
You right, No, And I started going on Wednesday night
that was.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Like super pist to night for show, Like Wednesday was.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
More Bison, but the Swapman became super Bison for sure.
In general. Yeah, yeah, because's where I got myos now brother.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, no, I haven't been to this. I haven't been
to that swap meet probably in like six years.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah, it's been a long time. One of the homies
that let us use his spot. Shout out to my
man Abe on the South Side Tacos. He let us
use his spot to do the photo shoot you know
some of the photos that we used with the album launch.
We took him in South Phoenix at Guesswave and and
he's like magic. I got this vision that you come
back to the swap Meat and people can go get

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a take for you, just for one day.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
That'd be fire.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
And my wife said, you know, that's a smart idea.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
That's not a bad idea. Yeah, because you guys have
hard copies the album.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yet they're on the way. They're on the way, dude.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
You should do that one day. Get the radio stations involved.
I don't know if Gio. I forget the name of
the lady who used to run the swap me, but
she kicked me out.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
At least Nica.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Monica kicked me out of that motherfucker fifteen times. I
used to have to send my parents to get the
space and then.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
You can't sell those burn CDs. Bro I literally used
to have to send different people to buy the space
in the morning under their name. I'd be like, yoyo,
go get the space. That's a real hustler. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
And then even the one in Tucsonic got kicked out
Tonki Vertie swapped.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
The one that I never got no smoke at was
the one on Buckeye, the one on like thirty Fi.
They didn't give a fuck over there. You're gonna sell
whatever the fuck you wanted over there. That's the real
piece of swap meat for sure. The one by Carl Hayden,
that's the one.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, just knowing to Carl Hayden. Just when you say
Carl Hayden, they're like on Roosevelt.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
You know what's so crazy is I just saw recently
that a few years ago, I had no idea that
this happened, that they made a fucking movie with George
Lopez about Carl Hayden High school.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yeah. I didn't know that the Underground Water Team or
something like that. Yeah, some some sort of robot team
or some shit roy under Yeah. I was like, they
got a fucking movie about.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Carl Heyten Hayden High School.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
And George Lopez shout out falcons. She where did you
go to high school?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I started at East High School.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
It doesn't exist anymore. I started at East High School.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
That was my freshman year, and then the government gave
my mom a bigger house, but she had to move
to Avondale. So then I finished up my sophomore, junior,
senior year in Avondale on the far west side.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
So when you were growing up, like grade school, middle school,
where were you at?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
I was in the projects at Cofeld, So I went
to Hamilton. It's called Hamilton now, but it was called
Murphy three back then.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
So what like, what are your crossroads growing up?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Buckeye and Nineteenth Avenue. Oh, Jesus, Carlito's Market, that's the Funneteenth.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Still is by, I believe it. Buckeye in nineteenth Avenue
hasn't gotten any better.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
I actually don't think anything up and down Nineteenth Avenue's
ever gotten better. Businesses that where their clothes bro Nineteenth
Avenue as a street in Arizona is just fucking doomed.
I don't know what's I think twenty seventh Avenue's overtaking
it if you just go up and down twenty seventh, Yeah,
twenty seventh is pretty bod Nineteenth Avenue fucked. I don't
matter where you're at, you be on nineteen Avenue. You're right,

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it's fucked up and down done left to baseline, Hey,
baseline of seventh Street? What's up? Jesus man? All right?
So look, the new album is out. People can go
get the merch.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Hard copies are on the way. I'm assuming you've got
tons of shows coming up, and we.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Got a ton of gang of shows. Just go to
mcmagic dot world for all the links.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
What has been the coolest place? Like?

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Have you have you because you have your places you
always go, right, has there been a new place you've
gone recently where you're like, oh shit, like, uh, we
got booked where oh.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, we went to Tapa, Florida and it was Banana.
I just saw that we went to Tampa, Florida and
I lived in Tampa. Yes, yeah, and it was crazy bootleg.
Matter of fact that the promoters that wasn't the show
that we promoted. The promoter said, we didn't expect this
type of turnout, and they told us that last night,
not last night, two nights ago. They told us that

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in Brighton, Colorado, Adams County Fair. They expected five hundred people,
We had like ten thousand people.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
What the fuck? Yeah, Tampa's got the worst Mexican food
in America. Thanks for the heads up.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Can.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I lived there, and I tell you I scratched every
single nook and cranny place.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I'll definitely be going to Jersey Mike's when I get
to Tampa.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Get Cuban food. They got a place called Taco Bus.
That is what everyone thinks is good. If you live
in Tampa and you asked someone from Tampa, yeah, where's
some Mexican food at they were, with the straight face,
point you to a taco bell. Damn, I get there's
a Taco bell over there.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Not real Mexican food.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Do you think Southern California has better Mexican food than Arizona?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Personally, I'm from Arizona. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go
with a Z.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I go there, I go.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I'm gonna go with Ez.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I always say by the Fall, I'll always give it
to just because San Diego's like right there.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
San Diego's got real good food, but LA's got king
Taco Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I actually, you know what I don't like about La
and obviously the outskirts of La they have.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
We don't have a Philibertos. We don't have a twenty
four hour Wow. Like I'm telling you, in La, there
is not a twenty four hour Mexican place you could
pull up and get a carnisarrazy. It does not exist.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
But you know what a lot of that is because
there's so many, so many hustling trucks. The food trucks
are everywhere.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
But the food trucks are open twenty.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Four hours, but I've seen them open late.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
They'll be open to about two three am.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
But my whole thing, I'm like, dude and a Z.
You can't you fall into a twenty four hour Philipbertos.
And like Phillies is by the way, I joy Phillies.
He called Philiberto Phillies, but like, hey, you do, got
a relationship with them, But I love Phillies. Like the
thing is is like it's it's like there's better food
for sure, yeah, but it's just dependable.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah. Back when I lived on on on forty third
Avenue and Cactus, there was a place called Rolando's. Oh yeah,
Rolando's went hard. They had the best toy soak on
Wells and Gesso Burrito and the best.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
The best hot dogs are in Arizona. They started in Tucson. Facts.
There's that place on twentieth Street in the Indian School.
There's a fucking cart. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
So yeah, no, that's one o. The hot dogs are
definitely definitely an easy.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
I try to tell people because I'll tell them like, yeah, nah,
the ship that you when you leave the Crypto dot
com arena and there's the ladies with the carts selling
the bacon rate wrapped hot dogs and not the same thing.
I wish it was, for sure, man. Right with the
new album is out, everyone goes support it. Uh mc
magic world dot.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Com mcmagic dot world not dot com world, got world, okay?

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Yeah? And how often you go live?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I try to go at least once a week, but
when when I have enough free time, I'll do twice
a week.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
You know. Sometimes after after church on Sunday, I'll go
live again in the evening. You know, it's a good time.
I try to give them as much as possible because
they've given me so much.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I love it, man, mc magic, I appreciate you pulling
up buddy. Illove you boy, Yes sir, love you too.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Man Fire