August 20, 2024 • 18 mins
Interview with Tinashe on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what up.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm Tinache and right now you're listening to the Bootleg
cav Show.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's the Bootleg Cabs Show. Uh, and we are very
excited for our guests. How's it going to Nash? Shout
out to your shorts because they are very sorts are back.
You know, those shorts remind me of something that like,
I have a cousin who's a jugglo. Do you know
what a juggalo is? An insane clown posse fan. Oh okay,
(00:29):
looks like some like real.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nice like yeah, my grandma would comment like, you paid
all that money for them to look like.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well, they look like someone beat their wife in them
and then.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Donated and dragged me across the ground.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I know, I just did you know something like looking
don't look at and they look like someone just changed
the oil in that. Wow, we're starting off like this.
But anyway, good to see you you. It has been
a decade I think since I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, by the way, we're aging ourselves here.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh yeah, right, it's been like ten months.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There's like this, uh photo I that's like kind of
like a super legendary LA photo. Now that I look
back at it. It's we were all in Boston. It
was me, you yg Tie. I remember that photo kidding
Ill Will Dre Sinatra was in it and I was like, damn,
what an era?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What an ara? Good time?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
For sure, You've had so much longevity in the game,
and you know, you've been through so many different eras
of your career, whether it's going independent obviously you just
got nominated for Grammy recently a couple of years ago.
What has been that like, like for you, what do
you think has been your key to staying relevant and
pushing through and you know, kind of just just all
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these eras.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean, I think a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I think one is being adaptable, knowing that you know,
the world, the universe, the music industry changes a lot,
and being able to adapt with that. And then the
second thing I think is just not stopping like I
just never stopped, Like I just continue to put music out,
I continue to put myself out there, continue to put
out videos, art, continue to tour like eventually it's going
to connect with people.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know, you just got to keep going.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And you've been building like your your your world, like
you know, you got some crazy fans.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, they have got some crazy fans.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
They're they're really really dedicated, they're die hard. They a
lot of them have been there since day one, so
it's really great.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
How dope was it to get nominated for the R
and B Album of the Year.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I mean I didn't get nominated, wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You didn't?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean I was.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Nominated in with Kate Trenada Okay, okay, okay, which I
believe was Dance Records.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Was it like two years ago?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, I think it was like rhythm contemporary some shit,
like you know, one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Of those crazy like genres that they make up for
the grim.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yo. For you when you think back to like, uh,
you were one of the OG Drake Stimulus package artists
as you.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Would call it, that's kind of true.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Right because if you think to twu on that was
the first remix like Quick twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, obviously the OG had school Boy Q on it,
and then the remix it was ode O'Brien who was
yeh who was like Drake's homie who was just kind
of rapping, and then Drake got on the remix, and
it kind of I feel like, obviously the record is
already big, but it kind of took it to like
another left.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, I definitely gassed it up, which was very cool
in retrospect.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Was the stimulus package of real thing back then?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean yeah, it boot Like I said, it boosted
the song. It gave it like a whole new life.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean that's probably one of the best features I
ever had that I didn't have to pay for, you know,
Like I mean I found out about it on.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Twitter because it was like on was it on SoundCloud?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
First?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I just found out he dropped it.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, like it was in that era like where people
would just make it's definitely not legal, but like you
know nowadays, but it was really cool for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I was happy about it, to say the least.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So you you direct your own music videos? What do
you like more right now? Currently? I know you're doing
your music thing. Do you have an aspirations just keep creating?
Because I know you've been behind the camera and I
think you directed Boston music video. Well yeah, yeah, So
do you have more aspirations to do stuff like that?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I feel like directing things and just like having a
creative vision and eye something I'm always gonna have and
want to do. So whether it's be for myself or
someone else in the future, that'd be great. But I'm
really enjoying coming up with ideas and stuff for myself
right now.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
About like a movie, I do you have any movie? I?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh, I got so many ideas, the crazy ones you got,
I can't tell you. My idea is that people are
gonna steal my ideas.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I was trying to steal it, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, me and James are gonna start trying to produce
some toob movies.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Our first idea is, do you remember the movie The Ring? Yes?
So I have this idea where it's like The Ring,
but only fans, right, Okay, so like like you subscribe
to this like mysterious only fans, check on on on
only fans, and then she knows. She comes to the
screen while you're you got seven days and then and
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then you got seven day and then there's like there's
like this epidemic of men who are caught with their
pants down in front of their computers dead right, And
it's because this girl comes through the screen. And I
just feel like it'd be a toob class.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I think that would off.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I don't think that I think it's better than you think.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's better than I think it's too.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, we're shooting in our iPhones, so it's going on
to be it don't matter.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
We go we getting money from me. Would you watch
that movie?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, you know it sounds. I love horror. I'm a
big fan of horror.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
What's your favorite horror movie of all time? For give me?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Like Shining?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I love the Shining. I love Midsummer that's like one
of my newer I good twenty four Okay, good one.
I like a lot of the twenty four, Like I.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Love Hereditary, Right that a twenty fourth fire the other
fire cut Gems that's an a twenty four movie.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Okay, okay, I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Do you what about it follows? Did you watch your follows? That?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's pretty crazy?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Was there one that messed you up as a kid?
A scary movie?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The one that messed me up, though most was Paranormal
Activity when it first came out and I saw it
in the theater and I had to sleep in my
parents room that night, and I was like, I was
like sixteen years old.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I had to sleep in my parents.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Been sixteen in bed with the pair scared am I was.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I was scared. It only happened to me once.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
That happened to me When I first played Resident Evil
as a kid.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Resident Evil.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was playing it on the PlayStation one. Okay, I
was alone in my room in the middle of the
night playing the zombie game. Shipped my pants and I
literally went and slept on the floor of my parents room.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
For me, it was the conjuring, the conjure. Till this day,
I can't It was the moment when the demons on
top of the damn closet. In the commercials, they just
show it. My first time seeing it, I was every
black stereotype. I stood up everything I had.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Have you seen Terrorizer, terrifying, Terrified with the clown dude?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I saw Terrified.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You could watch this.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I saw Terrified two and I hear there's a Terrifire three.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I sound. I saw one and two like a month ago.
Me and my girl watched both of them back to back. Wow,
it's kind of funny, it's pretty, it's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
What about Human.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Centerpede, I have not seen Humans.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Don't watch the second one.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Don't watch any of them. The first one was good.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I feel like I already get that.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
No, you don't want to watch it. It's bad. It's dark.
You're being in a dark place for like a week
after you see it. The guys you have the second one?
What what for you? You got this nasty record that's
just going absolutely bonkers, and you know TikTok. I feel
like every time I swipe it's all there.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Uh my crazy on TikTok?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Would you say that that was kind of like the
the like where it blew up first?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Was I feel like I saw it first like getting
memefied a lot on Twitter, and then it was TikTok,
Like I feel like the original video of like remember
there was this video of like this white boy like
whine in his hips, and like that was like one
that really popped off. I saw that on Twitter before
I even saw it on well X whatever, Right, some
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things can never never be changed.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So Twitter is where you kind of first noticed it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, yeah, and then I also noticed it on It's
kind of went viral on all the platforms, but TikTok
was where like had a hold on the community.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Like you're like, uh, do your parents hear like nasty
and be like it's a good song, but no.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
My parents are supportive of everything. I do love it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
They're like, whoa, let's got my grandma like nasty showing.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Up the chart. Have they ever had like watched your
mind looking at your dad and be like, is somebody
gonna match my freak? No?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, cause a lot of arguments at my household, really
because my wife will have finished having sex and whatnot.
She whispered, my ear, you didn't match my freaking.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Little period, I feel, I mean, but she was keeping it?
Would you rather?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I mean, let's honestly break this down. Who should match?
Should you mash the freak from the less freakier person
of the more.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Freaking person freak person?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
So you're gonna tell the person that's not freaky to do, Hey,
I need you to swing on top of the damn chandelier.
That's what you're gonna say.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
As as the nasty girl herself, I'm gonna say, yes, okay,
have you ever had someone exceed your freak and you
were just like no, no, no, no, no, that's.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, we can't do that. As a matter of fact,
get out of my house looking and uh, there's a
restraining order coming your way because you're a sick fuck.
Yet obviously you got the remix with Tiger. You know
a lot of people are saying Tiger was like telling
everybody that this song was a hit before everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Like Tiger knows his hits. I will say that you
know the.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Box for sure, and he knows the Nasty records. He's
you know, he's the ratchet god. You know what I'm saying, He's.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The original make it nasty.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
For you, Like just the perseverance of like because I mean,
you've had plenty of moments and like, like, like you said,
you've been building this huge following and putting in work,
but this is like your first real big hit in
a long time. How good does it feel to get
that off your shoulder? So good?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It makes you feel like you're on the right track,
Like everything's going the way it should. Like all the
work that I've been putting in this last however many years.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Is all paying. It's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, it's very affirming.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I feel like we've grown up in the music. I
was doing Afternoons of Tampa when I first interviewed it. Yeah,
you're a OG. Yeah do you feel like an og?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You do in a good way. Though, Do you like
give game? To the young artists, like when you you know, sure,
what would be your biggest advice to like a young
R and B artist trying to break into the music industry.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Don't let anyone put you in a box unless you
want to be in a box. But yeah, just just
keep going. Just don't stop. I feel like that's like
the biggest people just stop. You know, people get the
industry is not an easy place, so I understand, but
you just got to keep pushing.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Was ever a point where you were going to stop
and you got a piece of advice? Are you seeing
a movie a quote and just kept you going? Are
you just never had a point?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, I've never wanted to stop. I've never I've never
got that point. I feel like I'm the type of
person that would create whether you know someone was watching
or not.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So I'm gonna just keep making you love it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
What is the craziest and or inappropriate way you've seen
your song being used on the internet.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I've seen some crazy ones, but you know, I don't know.
I feel like the algorithm be reading out some of
the most inappropriate things nowadays, like TikTok doesn't really allow
too many.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, I mean my algorithm's you know different.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I guess y, let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean, it's interesting. I don't be on TikTok though,
if I'm gonna be one hundred percent honest. Okay, that's
why I'm on Instagram and I'm on X right right X.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
A lot more than why, well lot more.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I had to cleanse my accounts on.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
X because I had to clear your cash and.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Like, no, no, I just had to unfollow a lot
of accounts because it was just you know, there was
a point in time where on Twitter, if somebody you
were following liked something, oh yeah, you would see it,
which was weird. And then I realized I was following
a lot of people who were nasty, as you would say.
And then I couldn't open Twitter in front of my
wife because you just never knew what come up.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's kind of happened to me, Like I feel like
I've a lot of over the years, I've followed a
lot of fans and then a lot of them have
like turned into porn pages Twitter exactly, and I'm like
where I follow as pormage and then but they're like fans, No,
we've all been through that, were were porn.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
No, yeah, yeah, yes, but no, You're right. I went
through that where there was these random pages that I
don't ever remember following, and I'm like, yo, this is real.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Like sometimes people rebrand, they rebrand or they sell their page.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Either that or it is too violent on Twitter. That's
why I don't like Twitter anymore. You just see some
So yeah, Twitter is the new world Star.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
We used to go to the World Start and watching
kids beat the shit out of each other, and now
it's Twitter.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
That's true, that's really real.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You're right about your ep uh is on the way.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Quantum Baby?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
What is that? But like it is my album name,
I know, but what is it? What does it mean?
Like what is it? What is a quantum baby? Okay?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So I mean it kind of references like kind of
getting to the core, getting to like the most discrete
unit of measurement, like just kind of really getting down
to like a granular level and all like the weird
things like the paradoxes and stuff that kind.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Of spirit you're spiritual.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I'm definitely spiritual. And I also like to watch like
nerdy things on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Like what's nerd quantum physics types, quantum physics.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You learn quantum physics on YouTube? Yes, that's what I've read.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, I wouldn't say all that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm not an act, not an actually.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But I do love to like watch.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know, discussions that like no one has the answers of,
like what happens at a quantum level? Yea, which is
the most interesting part about it because there's so many debates,
like really smart people.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Have they had any master debates? Have I No? I
mean we haven't been on the show called master Debate. Okay, anyway,
it's a play on masturbation. No, so you're spiritual. Have
you ever done psilocybin mushrooms?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And have you had any good trips bad trips? Because
we do a lot of shrooms.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Shrooms are fun.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Shroom all the time. You might be shrooming right now.
At least a micro do micro doves micro is fun.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like my favorite experiences with
streams are like at concerts like I Coachella.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, yeah, because you feel in music it's hard, so.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Hard, he'd be red like red, his eyes be parked
up like bro.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And the best My favorite band to listen to on
shrooms is Tame and Paula.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I feel like, honestly, I feel like they kind of
they do that on purpose.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I feel like they're very psychedelica.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And Paula on mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
What did you kind of call their genre music? Like
psycho adelic, like rock pop?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I call it mushroom music. There's that. And then have
you know who Mac DeMarco is. Oh, Mac de Marco's great.
You watch his music videos on mushrooms. You'd be tripping there.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
It's like some James Blake. Put on some James Blake
and like paint, I like some pain.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Painting on mushrooms. Do you have any of those paintings
hung up anywhere?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeh, yes, you should have.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
My moms, you should do a gallery where it's Tanase
on shrooms and.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Then one with me offstrooms, and then you could compare
when you like.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
The book All the s Hroom than a gallery by itself.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Have you ever had a no?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But you know, you get those thoughts and then you're
like and you can't go to sleep and they're like.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Uh, oh well that I.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Mean you know what I'm saying. Have you have you
been in bed and then as soon as you close
your eyes, they just take over with your thoughts and
then you can't sleep. No, okay, that happened to me
like four days ago when.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Doingrooms like that.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Shout out to Tanashe. And then your world tour just
got announced.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, that's so exciting.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
How many dates were? And yeah, I mean it's a
world tour for a reason, it's not a nationwide tours. Yeah,
I mean the.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Nation the ones in the US.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I think there's like twenty five thirty dates maybe more,
a lot a lot of shows.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And then we're going internationals.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We're going to go to Australia, Europe, it's not even
counting those.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And Asia.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What's your favorite what part of Asia?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, what's your favorite place to? Like, just you've traveled
a lot throughout your career, whe's your favorite place you've
gone to, not not to perform, but just to go?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You love them? Like Bora Bora, Bora bora top tier?
Is that where they happen on Earth?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
They got the hotels like in the middle of ocean? Yeah,
oh that's what do they got, Paige? Okay, they got
the bungalows over the water though, right, you stayed in
one worth it? Oh? Yeah? Okay, I highly recommend it.
Got to go to Bora Bora. What about performing wise,
where's outside of the US. What's your favorite place you
performed at. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
The shows are always crazy in Paris, the those are
always crazy in London. I was just in China. Those
shows were pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
China.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, I was literally just there last week.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It was the Chinese food better there because I actually
heard that the best Chinese foods in the Bay. Even
if you go to China, if you try that like
San Francisco or La Chinese food to like, it's like different,
it hits different, likes different. Yeah, so you you prefer
our Chinese.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Food personally, But I didn't grow up in China, so.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, that's a fair point. That's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Like that's an acquired taste, you know, since you.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Got in the game. A lot of look females run
hip hop now.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh yeah, we love to see it.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It is amazing to see. If you could pick a
female MC to do a collab EP or album with,
who would it be?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Mmm, Doja Doja Catice some Fire for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I think she's like low key, Like I say, I'm
so excited because she's doing the iHeart Festival and her
live show. When I saw her tour, you know, like
you know, you go to those big tours and there's
a lot of outfit chaine and theatrics, and it was
just she was wearing the same ship the whole time
and she was just up there destroying it with stage presents.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I know that is all you need.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I agree. And she got out wrap almost. I mean
she's when she wants to beat be on her MC ship. Great,
she's a problem kill great.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We actually have the same like music director and this
like her drummer is was my drummer from time, like
my first show I ever did in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh ship. Yeah, so week time flies, We're connected connected
for sure. EP comes out a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, Tomork tomorrow, so.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
It's actually by the time this drops, it's out out.
Don't get the EP quantum baby.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yes, yes, yes, check get out stream it. Run it up.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
If you see her at Coachella, she's high on rooms.
Just do this.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I have my glasses on.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Just be like I got you girls, that's a sign
you got glassbl oh no, I Coachella, Coachella. I'll give
my secrets because I'll be wearing the sunglass inside all
the time.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Now that I'm a rock.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Star, I mean, you know, it's a rock starship.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You never know, you never know, it might be.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
There, it is, Tanasehe congrats on everything. Go stream the EP,
What's out, Now out and Nasty is taking over the world.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Number one comes to my show at the Greek Oh
in October.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
And congrats on by now. This will be your song's
number one rhythm by now yeah, number one yesterday, oh
number one. Yeah you posted it. Yeah, so congrats number one.
There you go, number one in the country. God damn it, Tanashe,
thanks for sitting with us.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Thank you so much.
Hey, what up.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm Tinache and right now you're listening to the Bootleg
cav Show.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's the Bootleg Cabs Show. Uh, and we are very
excited for our guests. How's it going to Nash? Shout
out to your shorts because they are very sorts are back.
You know, those shorts remind me of something that like,
I have a cousin who's a jugglo. Do you know
what a juggalo is? An insane clown posse fan. Oh okay,
(00:29):
looks like some like real.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nice like yeah, my grandma would comment like, you paid
all that money for them to look like.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well, they look like someone beat their wife in them
and then.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Donated and dragged me across the ground.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I know, I just did you know something like looking
don't look at and they look like someone just changed
the oil in that. Wow, we're starting off like this.
But anyway, good to see you you. It has been
a decade I think since I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, by the way, we're aging ourselves here.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh yeah, right, it's been like ten months.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There's like this, uh photo I that's like kind of
like a super legendary LA photo. Now that I look
back at it. It's we were all in Boston. It
was me, you yg Tie. I remember that photo kidding
Ill Will Dre Sinatra was in it and I was like, damn,
what an era?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What an ara? Good time?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
For sure, You've had so much longevity in the game,
and you know, you've been through so many different eras
of your career, whether it's going independent obviously you just
got nominated for Grammy recently a couple of years ago.
What has been that like, like for you, what do
you think has been your key to staying relevant and
pushing through and you know, kind of just just all
(01:39):
these eras.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean, I think a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I think one is being adaptable, knowing that you know,
the world, the universe, the music industry changes a lot,
and being able to adapt with that. And then the
second thing I think is just not stopping like I
just never stopped, Like I just continue to put music out,
I continue to put myself out there, continue to put
out videos, art, continue to tour like eventually it's going
to connect with people.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know, you just got to keep going.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And you've been building like your your your world, like
you know, you got some crazy fans.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, they have got some crazy fans.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
They're they're really really dedicated, they're die hard. They a
lot of them have been there since day one, so
it's really great.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
How dope was it to get nominated for the R
and B Album of the Year.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I mean I didn't get nominated, wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You didn't?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean I was.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Nominated in with Kate Trenada Okay, okay, okay, which I
believe was Dance Records.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Was it like two years ago?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, I think it was like rhythm contemporary some shit,
like you know, one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Of those crazy like genres that they make up for
the grim.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yo. For you when you think back to like, uh,
you were one of the OG Drake Stimulus package artists
as you.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Would call it, that's kind of true.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Right because if you think to twu on that was
the first remix like Quick twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, obviously the OG had school Boy Q on it,
and then the remix it was ode O'Brien who was
yeh who was like Drake's homie who was just kind
of rapping, and then Drake got on the remix, and
it kind of I feel like, obviously the record is
already big, but it kind of took it to like
another left.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, I definitely gassed it up, which was very cool
in retrospect.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Was the stimulus package of real thing back then?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean yeah, it boot Like I said, it boosted
the song. It gave it like a whole new life.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean that's probably one of the best features I
ever had that I didn't have to pay for, you know,
Like I mean I found out about it on.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Twitter because it was like on was it on SoundCloud?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
First?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I just found out he dropped it.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, like it was in that era like where people
would just make it's definitely not legal, but like you
know nowadays, but it was really cool for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I was happy about it, to say the least.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So you you direct your own music videos? What do
you like more right now? Currently? I know you're doing
your music thing. Do you have an aspirations just keep creating?
Because I know you've been behind the camera and I
think you directed Boston music video. Well yeah, yeah, So
do you have more aspirations to do stuff like that?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I feel like directing things and just like having a
creative vision and eye something I'm always gonna have and
want to do. So whether it's be for myself or
someone else in the future, that'd be great. But I'm
really enjoying coming up with ideas and stuff for myself
right now.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
About like a movie, I do you have any movie? I?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh, I got so many ideas, the crazy ones you got,
I can't tell you. My idea is that people are
gonna steal my ideas.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I was trying to steal it, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, me and James are gonna start trying to produce
some toob movies.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Our first idea is, do you remember the movie The Ring? Yes?
So I have this idea where it's like The Ring,
but only fans, right, Okay, so like like you subscribe
to this like mysterious only fans, check on on on
only fans, and then she knows. She comes to the
screen while you're you got seven days and then and
(04:39):
then you got seven day and then there's like there's
like this epidemic of men who are caught with their
pants down in front of their computers dead right, And
it's because this girl comes through the screen. And I
just feel like it'd be a toob class.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I think that would off.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I don't think that I think it's better than you think.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's better than I think it's too.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, we're shooting in our iPhones, so it's going on
to be it don't matter.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
We go we getting money from me. Would you watch
that movie?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, you know it sounds. I love horror. I'm a
big fan of horror.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
What's your favorite horror movie of all time? For give me?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Like Shining?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I love the Shining. I love Midsummer that's like one
of my newer I good twenty four Okay, good one.
I like a lot of the twenty four, Like I.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Love Hereditary, Right that a twenty fourth fire the other
fire cut Gems that's an a twenty four movie.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Okay, okay, I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Do you what about it follows? Did you watch your follows? That?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's pretty crazy?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Was there one that messed you up as a kid?
A scary movie?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The one that messed me up, though most was Paranormal
Activity when it first came out and I saw it
in the theater and I had to sleep in my
parents room that night, and I was like, I was
like sixteen years old.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I had to sleep in my parents.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Been sixteen in bed with the pair scared am I was.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I was scared. It only happened to me once.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
That happened to me When I first played Resident Evil
as a kid.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Resident Evil.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was playing it on the PlayStation one. Okay, I
was alone in my room in the middle of the
night playing the zombie game. Shipped my pants and I
literally went and slept on the floor of my parents room.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
For me, it was the conjuring, the conjure. Till this day,
I can't It was the moment when the demons on
top of the damn closet. In the commercials, they just
show it. My first time seeing it, I was every
black stereotype. I stood up everything I had.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Have you seen Terrorizer, terrifying, Terrified with the clown dude?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I saw Terrified.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You could watch this.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I saw Terrified two and I hear there's a Terrifire three.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I sound. I saw one and two like a month ago.
Me and my girl watched both of them back to back. Wow,
it's kind of funny, it's pretty, it's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
What about Human.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Centerpede, I have not seen Humans.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Don't watch the second one.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Don't watch any of them. The first one was good.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I feel like I already get that.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
No, you don't want to watch it. It's bad. It's dark.
You're being in a dark place for like a week
after you see it. The guys you have the second one?
What what for you? You got this nasty record that's
just going absolutely bonkers, and you know TikTok. I feel
like every time I swipe it's all there.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Uh my crazy on TikTok?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Would you say that that was kind of like the
the like where it blew up first?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Was I feel like I saw it first like getting
memefied a lot on Twitter, and then it was TikTok,
Like I feel like the original video of like remember
there was this video of like this white boy like
whine in his hips, and like that was like one
that really popped off. I saw that on Twitter before
I even saw it on well X whatever, Right, some
(07:33):
things can never never be changed.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So Twitter is where you kind of first noticed it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, yeah, and then I also noticed it on It's
kind of went viral on all the platforms, but TikTok
was where like had a hold on the community.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Like you're like, uh, do your parents hear like nasty
and be like it's a good song, but no.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
My parents are supportive of everything. I do love it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
They're like, whoa, let's got my grandma like nasty showing.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Up the chart. Have they ever had like watched your
mind looking at your dad and be like, is somebody
gonna match my freak? No?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, cause a lot of arguments at my household, really
because my wife will have finished having sex and whatnot.
She whispered, my ear, you didn't match my freaking.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Little period, I feel, I mean, but she was keeping it?
Would you rather?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I mean, let's honestly break this down. Who should match?
Should you mash the freak from the less freakier person
of the more.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Freaking person freak person?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
So you're gonna tell the person that's not freaky to do, Hey,
I need you to swing on top of the damn chandelier.
That's what you're gonna say.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
As as the nasty girl herself, I'm gonna say, yes, okay,
have you ever had someone exceed your freak and you
were just like no, no, no, no, no, that's.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, we can't do that. As a matter of fact,
get out of my house looking and uh, there's a
restraining order coming your way because you're a sick fuck.
Yet obviously you got the remix with Tiger. You know
a lot of people are saying Tiger was like telling
everybody that this song was a hit before everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Like Tiger knows his hits. I will say that you
know the.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Box for sure, and he knows the Nasty records. He's
you know, he's the ratchet god. You know what I'm saying, He's.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The original make it nasty.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
For you, Like just the perseverance of like because I mean,
you've had plenty of moments and like, like, like you said,
you've been building this huge following and putting in work,
but this is like your first real big hit in
a long time. How good does it feel to get
that off your shoulder? So good?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It makes you feel like you're on the right track,
Like everything's going the way it should. Like all the
work that I've been putting in this last however many years.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Is all paying. It's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, it's very affirming.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I feel like we've grown up in the music. I
was doing Afternoons of Tampa when I first interviewed it. Yeah,
you're a OG. Yeah do you feel like an og?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You do in a good way. Though, Do you like
give game? To the young artists, like when you you know, sure,
what would be your biggest advice to like a young
R and B artist trying to break into the music industry.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Don't let anyone put you in a box unless you
want to be in a box. But yeah, just just
keep going. Just don't stop. I feel like that's like
the biggest people just stop. You know, people get the
industry is not an easy place, so I understand, but
you just got to keep pushing.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Was ever a point where you were going to stop
and you got a piece of advice? Are you seeing
a movie a quote and just kept you going? Are
you just never had a point?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, I've never wanted to stop. I've never I've never
got that point. I feel like I'm the type of
person that would create whether you know someone was watching
or not.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So I'm gonna just keep making you love it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
What is the craziest and or inappropriate way you've seen
your song being used on the internet.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I've seen some crazy ones, but you know, I don't know.
I feel like the algorithm be reading out some of
the most inappropriate things nowadays, like TikTok doesn't really allow
too many.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, I mean my algorithm's you know different.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I guess y, let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean, it's interesting. I don't be on TikTok though,
if I'm gonna be one hundred percent honest. Okay, that's
why I'm on Instagram and I'm on X right right X.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
A lot more than why, well lot more.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I had to cleanse my accounts on.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
X because I had to clear your cash and.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Like, no, no, I just had to unfollow a lot
of accounts because it was just you know, there was
a point in time where on Twitter, if somebody you
were following liked something, oh yeah, you would see it,
which was weird. And then I realized I was following
a lot of people who were nasty, as you would say.
And then I couldn't open Twitter in front of my
wife because you just never knew what come up.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's kind of happened to me, Like I feel like
I've a lot of over the years, I've followed a
lot of fans and then a lot of them have
like turned into porn pages Twitter exactly, and I'm like
where I follow as pormage and then but they're like fans, No,
we've all been through that, were were porn.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
No, yeah, yeah, yes, but no, You're right. I went
through that where there was these random pages that I
don't ever remember following, and I'm like, yo, this is real.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Like sometimes people rebrand, they rebrand or they sell their page.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Either that or it is too violent on Twitter. That's
why I don't like Twitter anymore. You just see some
So yeah, Twitter is the new world Star.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
We used to go to the World Start and watching
kids beat the shit out of each other, and now
it's Twitter.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
That's true, that's really real.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You're right about your ep uh is on the way.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Quantum Baby?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
What is that? But like it is my album name,
I know, but what is it? What does it mean?
Like what is it? What is a quantum baby? Okay?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So I mean it kind of references like kind of
getting to the core, getting to like the most discrete
unit of measurement, like just kind of really getting down
to like a granular level and all like the weird
things like the paradoxes and stuff that kind.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Of spirit you're spiritual.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I'm definitely spiritual. And I also like to watch like
nerdy things on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Like what's nerd quantum physics types, quantum physics.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You learn quantum physics on YouTube? Yes, that's what I've read.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, I wouldn't say all that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm not an act, not an actually.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But I do love to like watch.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know, discussions that like no one has the answers of,
like what happens at a quantum level? Yea, which is
the most interesting part about it because there's so many debates,
like really smart people.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Have they had any master debates? Have I No? I
mean we haven't been on the show called master Debate. Okay, anyway,
it's a play on masturbation. No, so you're spiritual. Have
you ever done psilocybin mushrooms?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And have you had any good trips bad trips? Because
we do a lot of shrooms.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Shrooms are fun.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Shroom all the time. You might be shrooming right now.
At least a micro do micro doves micro is fun.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like my favorite experiences with
streams are like at concerts like I Coachella.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, yeah, because you feel in music it's hard, so.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Hard, he'd be red like red, his eyes be parked
up like bro.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And the best My favorite band to listen to on
shrooms is Tame and Paula.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I feel like, honestly, I feel like they kind of
they do that on purpose.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I feel like they're very psychedelica.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And Paula on mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
What did you kind of call their genre music? Like
psycho adelic, like rock pop?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I call it mushroom music. There's that. And then have
you know who Mac DeMarco is. Oh, Mac de Marco's great.
You watch his music videos on mushrooms. You'd be tripping there.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
It's like some James Blake. Put on some James Blake
and like paint, I like some pain.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Painting on mushrooms. Do you have any of those paintings
hung up anywhere?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeh, yes, you should have.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
My moms, you should do a gallery where it's Tanase
on shrooms and.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Then one with me offstrooms, and then you could compare
when you like.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
The book All the s Hroom than a gallery by itself.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Have you ever had a no?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But you know, you get those thoughts and then you're
like and you can't go to sleep and they're like.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Uh, oh well that I.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Mean you know what I'm saying. Have you have you
been in bed and then as soon as you close
your eyes, they just take over with your thoughts and
then you can't sleep. No, okay, that happened to me
like four days ago when.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Doingrooms like that.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Shout out to Tanashe. And then your world tour just
got announced.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, that's so exciting.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
How many dates were? And yeah, I mean it's a
world tour for a reason, it's not a nationwide tours. Yeah,
I mean the.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Nation the ones in the US.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I think there's like twenty five thirty dates maybe more,
a lot a lot of shows.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And then we're going internationals.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We're going to go to Australia, Europe, it's not even
counting those.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And Asia.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What's your favorite what part of Asia?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, what's your favorite place to? Like, just you've traveled
a lot throughout your career, whe's your favorite place you've
gone to, not not to perform, but just to go?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You love them? Like Bora Bora, Bora bora top tier?
Is that where they happen on Earth?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
They got the hotels like in the middle of ocean? Yeah,
oh that's what do they got, Paige? Okay, they got
the bungalows over the water though, right, you stayed in
one worth it? Oh? Yeah? Okay, I highly recommend it.
Got to go to Bora Bora. What about performing wise,
where's outside of the US. What's your favorite place you
performed at. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
The shows are always crazy in Paris, the those are
always crazy in London. I was just in China. Those
shows were pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
China.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, I was literally just there last week.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It was the Chinese food better there because I actually
heard that the best Chinese foods in the Bay. Even
if you go to China, if you try that like
San Francisco or La Chinese food to like, it's like different,
it hits different, likes different. Yeah, so you you prefer
our Chinese.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Food personally, But I didn't grow up in China, so.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, that's a fair point. That's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Like that's an acquired taste, you know, since you.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Got in the game. A lot of look females run
hip hop now.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh yeah, we love to see it.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It is amazing to see. If you could pick a
female MC to do a collab EP or album with,
who would it be?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Mmm, Doja Doja Catice some Fire for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I think she's like low key, Like I say, I'm
so excited because she's doing the iHeart Festival and her
live show. When I saw her tour, you know, like
you know, you go to those big tours and there's
a lot of outfit chaine and theatrics, and it was
just she was wearing the same ship the whole time
and she was just up there destroying it with stage presents.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I know that is all you need.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I agree. And she got out wrap almost. I mean
she's when she wants to beat be on her MC ship. Great,
she's a problem kill great.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We actually have the same like music director and this
like her drummer is was my drummer from time, like
my first show I ever did in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh ship. Yeah, so week time flies, We're connected connected
for sure. EP comes out a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, Tomork tomorrow, so.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
It's actually by the time this drops, it's out out.
Don't get the EP quantum baby.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yes, yes, yes, check get out stream it. Run it up.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
If you see her at Coachella, she's high on rooms.
Just do this.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I have my glasses on.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Just be like I got you girls, that's a sign
you got glassbl oh no, I Coachella, Coachella. I'll give
my secrets because I'll be wearing the sunglass inside all
the time.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Now that I'm a rock.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Star, I mean, you know, it's a rock starship.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You never know, you never know, it might be.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
There, it is, Tanasehe congrats on everything. Go stream the EP,
What's out, Now out and Nasty is taking over the world.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Number one comes to my show at the Greek Oh
in October.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
And congrats on by now. This will be your song's
number one rhythm by now yeah, number one yesterday, oh
number one. Yeah you posted it. Yeah, so congrats number one.
There you go, number one in the country. God damn it, Tanashe,
thanks for sitting with us.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Thank you so much.
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