August 30, 2024 • 31 mins
Interview with Nasaan on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up. It's Nasigan. Check me out on a Boulet
cav podcast Bhulet Cavs show. We in here, man, we
got a special guest, the homie na San is.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
In the building. Welcome, welcome, welcome. How you doing, bro?
I'm good brother. I saw you at the BET Awards. Yeah,
you were doing the radio room and then uh we
just ran into each other at Larry June Larry June, Yeah,
Larry June show. For sure. Let me just say, big fans,
thank you. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's crazy being here. It would be like so fascinating,
like like actually being in these.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Spaces con I curse, yeah, I don't care fu.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, in these spaces and realizing like, oh, this is
what the fun The setup looked like, like it's like
on the.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Camera and then it's like you're like, oh it's different,
yeah exactly. Yeah, so this fire, Hey, thanks for coming man, So, uh,
no problem? Are you signed a big Sean Now? I
see this Dawn life chain. Is that what's going on?
Because you sure have been hanging with Sean quite a
bit lately. That's my dog. You were with him at
(01:04):
the on the Radar Freestyle. It's my dog, man, it's
my dog. You have to chain on. It's my dog, man,
that's my dog. You you watching too much, bro, right,
So what's it like being signed a big Sean In
the short amount of time since it's happened. Has it
been good? Wow? That's crazy. Just just jump in there
like it's been good. Such a nice guy, right.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Sean is my homie, man, that's the that's the like
greatest guy in the world. You know what I'm saying,
Like so so giving, so caring, so selfless. Like I
don't know if I can say, but I'm on his
album too, it's coming out at the end of this month,
like it's the guy man. So I'm gonna say, is
it just you on his album? Like on the song
(01:46):
on his album it's me and him man, But it's
like someone else on there too.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Mm hmmm. I don't believe you. I don't believe me.
I feel like if like you him and baby trying
to be kind of sick, oh, that would have been
all yeah, yeah, that's been crazy fishing right now. Yeah,
you know, let me not say that we almost got him,
we almost got him.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I do feel like though I should have had a
verse on a Marshall song, I think that would have
been crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That would have been crazy. Uh, you're talking about the Toby. Yeah,
Toby is a fire record. Toby's an amazing record. They
all did their thing, ah my fault. Yeah, they all
did their thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I just think that I should have been on there too.
You know what I'm saying, jacking off a little bit? Yeah,
like getting off right right?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right? Okay, okay, sorry, you're not up on a young
young Well, when I grew up, jacking off meant something else.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, you know, I mean something different now, So you
just gotta start saying jacking off like when when when
you're doing some hards Have you ever.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Jacked off on the bus? What are we talking about?
I don't even know anymore, if I'm being honest, because
I don't know what you're referring to as jack like,
so you just not hit bro. You gotta get on TikTok.
See I'm not on TikTok. Well, I mean I have
it on my phone, but I don't like I'm not
on it, you know, right? Yeah, yeah, so they talk
about jacking off on TikTok. Yeah, but you're talking about
(03:13):
some difference. No, I'm not. I'm talking about whatever, whatever
type of jacking off you're talking about, you've done it
on a bus? No, never, never, not on a bus.
Why you ask me no? Because I just didn't know
if like, your definition of jacking off is able to
ben bus.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, where'd the bus come from? Though you've done that,
you had to have done that. I mean, that's so random.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I've been on the bus and saw someone jacking off before.
It was creepy. Probably was me. Different types. So for
the kids, jacking off means doing something hard. Fire yeah, fire.
So if I like cook some very good like dinner,
I could be like, I jacked off on that dinner.
Yeah nice, Yeah you went crazy. I went crazy on
that dinner. I jacked off dinner, you know. Fire. I
(03:51):
liked that. Yeah, I'm gonna start using that more. Yeah,
but just with people who are my age so they
look at me crazy, Yeah exactly. Yeah. Anyway, nice. Well,
I'm glad we're getting a nice little I don't even
know that. I wouldn't say you guys, you're younger than
a millennial. I'm I don't know what years that. I
don't even know, but I'm just glad we're getting the
nice like TikTok breakdown of language. What is demure? I
(04:14):
haven't seen people say I.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Seen that too. Women need to be quiet. Sometimes I
think I don't know what's what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah? What does that mean? What does that mean? What
does that mean? Demure? What's demure? Modest? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
like that's a demure house you have? Exactly. That's a wait. No,
you can't use it with the jack off. You can't
(04:43):
mix it. You can't mix demure and jacking off. Not
jacking off, bro, you can mix the dinner weird. You
can't jack off while being demure. Yeah, exactly. So you
can't do something hard while being modest, exactly. Yeah, they're
two different. Getting some math done. So have you been
able to link with Eminem? Obviously Eminem is so close
(05:05):
to your pops.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, of course I I was just trying to go
see him last week actually, but he was in LA
he was out here. I was in Detroit trying to
link with them. But I'm probably gonna do that when
I go back. Yeah, anytime I want to see them
and pull up on them, hit them. You know what
I'm saying, They're available. I don't I done as much
(05:27):
because it's like I'm finding my own way in this stuff,
you know what I'm saying, just like getting it done,
making my own relationships. Since I was a teenager, I
just kind of like always wanted to like make them
proud by just like not leaning on them so much.
But like there's times I'll just pull up, play them music,
get their advice on certain things, ask them questions, pick
their brains him and Royce especially because they've been through
(05:48):
a lot of the things that I'm about to go through, you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Know what I'm saying, Just like Royce has been through
so much in the music industry, being independent, writing major labels, everything,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So, yeah, just like picking their brains that I could
skip some of those hurdles.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, did he ever tell you the story? Because from
what I understand, Royce and your dad were locked up
the same night. Yeah, they were, they were b thing
and there was this beat, but they ended up in
the same cell exactly, and then that's where they kind
of squashed it. Yeah, which is crazy because now you
guys have a song that's going crazy and it's all
Madden congrass.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, thank you bro, thank you have it and heard
it yet I haven't. They sent it to me as
a birthday gift, and I'm like, oh, thank you. I'm
probably gonna do that when I get back home. I've
been out here for so long, like two weeks now.
So yeah, because you grew up in Atlanta, I grew
up in Atlanta. Yeah, I grew up in Atlanta. So
is that home for you? Atlanta kind of is home
(06:41):
for me. I mean, I live in Detroit now. I
moved back twenty twenty one. So from like two thousand
and seven to twenty twenty it was like me and Atlanta, right,
But yeah, so that's like what I know. That was
like my formative years, like where I became a man
and like, sure, just lost my virginity and stuff. Stop
(07:03):
peeing in a bit at thirteen?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
How old were you even lost virginity? Twelve? Jesus No,
but look peep that bro.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I lost my virginia when I was twelve, okay, And
I stopped pissing in the bed at thirteen.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So you were still pissing in the bed when you
lost your virginity. I was getting cheeks and going home
and pissing on my mattress. Wow. How old was the
girl you slept with at twelve, she was thirteen. Okay,
at least she wasn't like twenty one you no, no, yeah,
not no crazyness Sometimes, like dudes I know have lost
their virginity young. It's always to like a babysitter and
they say how they were on. My dude, you got molested.
(07:38):
That's weird. There's no qualms about it, like someone prayed
on you, like not demere, not to miror not demere.
Why were you paying your bed until thirteen? Was it
like a mental thing? What was going on there?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I honestly think it's hereditary. Bro, My dad did too.
Oh he stopped when he was fourteen. Yeah, just for
big pissers. It was the fifth tissy family.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Bro, your mattress had a small crazy Yeah. Bro, you
ever go to like growing up, I go over to
my homie's house, you know, and he'd be sharing sharing
bedrooms with his little brother, and his little brother's bed
was smell like his. Bro.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I used to be sick because I couldn't like spend
the night over nobody house or pee exactly, and then
like my nobody even my family members an't want me
coming over here, like no.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This nigga. You got someone like that in my family, right, like, yeah,
you know what the fuck up your frienditure? Yo? Man, hey, yo,
just I got an air mattress. Yeah exactly, yeah, put
it in the garage. Not give them the nice blanket, exactly,
give them the blanks were thinking about throwing away. Anyway,
My grandma had bought me these draws, like they had
an alarm on them and like.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If they were wet, if they get wet, they'll like
go off. Yeah, it was crazy. That didn't work though.
That didn't work. It didn't work.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's I wonder if they still make those.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You probably do. I should have looked at them, invest
in them for my dog. Oh yeah, he's a pisser.
He's a wild guy.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
He's the pistol do Yeah, a Pomeranian and a French bulldog.
You have Pomeranian? Is the Pomeranian yours? I would say,
he's mine? You are? You are? You? Do you have
a lady in your life? Yeah? My wife? It's a
hard dog. Did she pick it? Does he? What? Did
she picked the dog that that breed? It was? I
(09:20):
bought that dog for her as a gift because she
wanted But now I love the dog. I understand it's
a very I was just it's a very feminine breed
to own as a man, I can't say that. Yeah,
Like if I wasn't married and I've told you I
just had a Pomeranian, you look at me way different. No,
I mean you had a Pomeranian. Yeah, I mean your
(09:41):
slag is your slag just real fucking demrror over there,
dog breed yours. And then I got a friend sheet.
It was just like a fucking he's a pisser sand path. Yeah,
you got one of them, big strong as No, I
got like a real little tiny f he's he's just
he bites. Everybody bites this for all the time. Yeah, yeah,
shout to. His name is Larry. Shut out to Larry.
(10:03):
And then the Pomerania's name is Lebowski. That what is
that Italian? The Big Lebowski. It's a movie. I'm not
familiar John Goodman and Jeff Bridges. That how you spell
it too? Yeah, Lebowski? Yeah, it's Goodski. Explain the stars
on your face, because you've had the stars every time
(10:24):
I've seen you. You got the stars kind of your thing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, it's kind of my thing. Shout out to Julia's starface.
She like, you know what I'm saying, keep me right,
but just.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Let me tell you what before you tell us. When
I see him, I think about when I did a
good job on my homework exactly. Yes, that's what they are.
I work for this company called ARA four for go
stream Ara for four, and this is just like, you
know what I'm saying, insignia of me doing a good
job over there. Good job, I did a good job. Nice? Yeah,
(10:53):
are you you said something earlier, like trying to make
sure you kind of paved your own way, because obviously
for people we didn't even say who your dad was officially,
but your dad was Proof from D twelve. He actually
had a lot of I'm from Phoenix and he was
out of Phoenix heavy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Before he passed, he was trying to get a crib
out there. Yeah that's what I heard. Yeah, he loved Arizona. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's crazy because I feel like Proof is like one
of these like figures in hip hop that was like
just so like important behind the scenes obviously. Yeah, lyrically,
just like an absolute Jedi. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's interesting. It's like as far as my generation, it's
like so many I don't know, it's so great with
him being my dad because it's like to the to
the crowd I speak to, not that many people know him, right,
so it's like they're like, we don't know what you're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
They don't have like a preconceived like they haven't made
their mind up about you already, like that crowd, because
it's like you.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Know, yeah exactly. But then versus like, you know what
I'm saying, the older guys, but like you guys you
got not you guys thirty seven, the older guys know.
And that's like that place to my benefit too, it
like helps me in certain rooms. And you know what
I'm saying, it's just like this this level of respect
that's kind of like given to me because he was
just like such a wonderful and great guy I think
(12:16):
while he was here on his earth, and he was just.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Like a great artist too. Yeah, he was respected. You
know what I'm saying that right, wasn't even his solo
album with the with the with the Search and for
Jerick it was hard Yeah, yeah, great? What was one
of the craziest album covers ever? Yeah? No this, Yeah,
I was thinking about getting that tattoo. You got like
his name right here, I'd be hard. Yeah, Marshall got
(12:39):
it too. I was thinking about it. Yeah, should I
had some Marshall man for you? Though? Is it like
because your dad passed away when you're really young, right
like seven? Yeah, so obviously like growing up kind of
starting to make music knowing who your dad was, did
you go back and like yeah, for sure, Like, yo,
I need to go listen to you know of what
(13:02):
the fuck a D twelve album more?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know, like, uh, yeah, I didn't like it, honestly, Like,
but I did feel like I was like I should check.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
It was more so me just being curious about who
my father is. You're crazy on the two d Dwelf albums, No,
the Devil's Night in a D twelve world.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, I'm not saying it's bad music. It just wasn't
my thing on there, though, No, it is it is.
I think I think how come is on the second
that's my coming Fire. There's some shit on there. Like
my band is like one of my I mean not
to be that guy that like picks the biggest song
they have, but like my band is like more of
my swag, I like goofy with a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Of Purple Pills was purple fire. That's like, you know,
it's so crazy. I missed when Eminem was like fucking
heavy making beats because he had like a real sound.
Like I know, people was like back then would be
like Eminem's got all his beats out the same, but
I'm like, yo, that's like he had a sound. No,
he did. He sent mesic beats recently and were like
(14:00):
they were like on Matt Swag and I was like, oh, yeah,
I'm you gotta do that. I gotta do that. Yeah,
I like it. Yeah, So, uh, your album's out, You're
about to go on tour with Baby Tron and BP
coachher Yeah yeah and BP Coacher shots at those guys,
Baby Tron and you uh, you guys got music together.
(14:23):
He's also for people who don't know, he had a
dad in the local Detroit rap scene. I just I
just heard about that. Yeah, his dad was signed to
uh Psychopathic Records ICP and them right. Yeah, Yeah, that's
kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Shut out to drone that's gotten crazy, set out to
Drying broa.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Know, the ICP like Niche of the World. Yeah, it's
it's pretty intense. No, definitely, like those jug like like,
have you met Juggalos I have. Yeah, Yeah, they're pretty
pretty serious. They're dedicated, bro, you know, like on some
crazy shit. I feel like he has like a simular
like a cult following very hard this thing that's going
(15:07):
on over here that's like super strong, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, And he's like I think about what
I like about if you hang out with Tron, he's
just like a kid still. Yeah, Like he's just like
he's just like a little kid who likes to smoke
weed and he's got funny hass bars. Yeah, yeah, exactly. No,
he's tight. Bro. Sometimes you be hanging out with some
of these young kids that these motherfuckers take themselves so
(15:27):
goddamn serious, and it's just like, yeah, it's okay, it's
like chill out. Yeah. You also often have a similar
fit on Yeah, big Musky, you have your I think
I've seen that work one of two ways where people
will fall in love with you based on whatever your
(15:49):
quote unquote images for whatever project or whatever. Right, Yeah,
I'm speaking to that guy, like my guy g Easy,
Like g Easy, he had the black jacket for like
the first of the leather, but then when he like
wanted to just like we're fitted. Yeah. Like people are like, yo, bro,
you're supposed to be right, yeah are you?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Like see, I think as an artist it is important too,
And I've been thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I did this.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I did this intentionally because it helps with brand recognition
and like people people know me every time they see me,
you know what I'm saying, So it's like, oh, that's
the same guy that did this and this and this.
I think it's important, especially like starting off as an
artist where it's it's like so many fucking ate yourself
and then you're people are like that's the guy. Yeah exactly,
(16:31):
so yes, and I think you do it again. Like
so for my next project, I'm gonna I'm going to
do something similar, but it won't be me wearing the
exact same fucking shit every day.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Though. This is me wearing the exact same thing every day.
You have I mean multiples, Yeah, I have multiples, but
it's still like, yeah, it's just pissing the bed.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
He's also not no, no, no, no, we're chilling, but
it's like, yeah, I don't I'm not gonna wear this shit.
Whatever I do next, it won't be the same thing,
but it would be like more formulaic, it'll be like
he would.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I don't know, I can't describe it. We'll talk about
I also think about it like the other way, right, okay,
is we think of Kanye's career exactly, and every Kanye
album he had an aesthetic for the most part exactly.
And you were like, and you you've probably seen like
some of the memes where it'll be like Kanye walking
(17:24):
yeah and then he walks to exactly yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a few artists like that, and so I think
that would be dope. Like if you yo, this album
is out, tours over, I'm about to get into this
new mode and we're about to switch up exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's the go for me. I think en and re
event as an artist is just super important. You know
who does a great job of that?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Are you? Are you a Cardi fan of the Playboy sorts? Yes,
beat sorts of If you were to ask me if
I was a Playboy Cardi fan, I would probably say, like, uh, okay,
let's not get you in trouble. I say, no, you're
hip though obviously I've seen him live. I mean I
like to dilate a lot. Yeah, that looks cool. I
(18:02):
just you know, uh, Cardi is a very very I
would just say like acquired taste. Mm and uh, I
just I'm not sure. I think like, you know, like
he's the only guy who makes me feel washed. I'm
gonna be honest. Yeah, how old are you? A? Game?
Thirty seven? All the other ship I get the Cardi shit.
I was signing a show dog and I didn't know
what the fuck was going on dog. Really, it was
(18:23):
just dirty fucking white kids and fucking and air forces mashing. Yeah,
he's just going. And there's some white dude up there,
looks like he's on arrowing and he's just like, you
got a vamp, you gotta get in there and go.
I just I was just I do like though I
like Destroy Lonely. Yeah. I like his stuff more than
(18:46):
Cardi stuff really, And he signed a Cardi is but
there are some Cardi records I really do like a lot.
He's very unique and he's a one of one, so
I can respect his individualism. Not a vamp bro No,
I'm not a van no, no, no, I'm disappointed. I'm
disappointed to do like vampire movies. So you ever watch
True Blood? Great show?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now I've seen Blade though, that vampire. Yeah, Blade's half
half human for sure. Did you see Blade pop out
in the new Dead bol Wolver movie.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I did. I fell asleep on that movie. The movie
was great.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I was just tired that day because you asleep. No,
I was just tired, bro, I was just tired. It
was it was a great movie. You were bringing a
playboy Cardi for a reason. Get your point. You said
you know some about reinventing, and then you asked, oh yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, Cardi is like I think he's super great
at that. It's like he's a brand new artist. Like
every album, I feel like every project, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No for sure, like if that's one hundred percent, yeah, no,
that's fair. He has the phase is yeah yeah, yeah,
what's the last one? Whole lot of red? A whole
lot of red? Yeah exactly. When that was what four
years ago, twenty December Christmas? I was, Yes. I remember
getting in my car to drive to CBS because the
only thing open on Christmas, throwing it on, being like
(20:00):
what the fuck's going on here? Yeah, and then I
went in to get a I think I went in
to get some diet coke. It was like, I don't
know eleven thirty at night and Diet Coke and Nick
Cannon listen. On Christmas Night, Nick Cannon is in the
CVS and Burbank alone buying stuff for his twelve babies.
Really yeah, all twelve of them. I mean, I don't
know if he had twelve at that point. He probably
was like a six second I don't know. He look,
(20:22):
he ran him up all in one year.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
First went stupid, Yeah, stupid, just sitting in the house
house Harney.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah. Yeah, So for you, like moving to Detroit kind
of after like going up in Atlanta and like kind
of seeing because I always, you know, say that Detroit's
got this I feel like movement that's been happening in
the last two or three years. And I mean a
lot of the music industry is kind of biting Detroit,
(20:50):
like everybody's trying to sign somebody from Detroit. Troit, Yeah,
for so much energy coming out of the city, and
there's a sound definitely the only thing I'm kind of
upset about.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And I'm not even upset about it anymore because Tyler
said something recently on the interview and I felt like
it was so the creator sorts of the creator sorts.
I feel like it was so old nigga of the sorts,
You know what I'm saying, Like, like his sentiment, it
was kind of like he was saying, I love Tyler
by the way, but he was just saying like he
was talking about the Ian guy.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Are we sure he was talk about Ian? We don't know.
We don't know. I mean, he didn't. Everyone assumed he
was somebody in but he didn't say. I don't know
which other white person he could be talking about. I digress,
I digress. Go ahead, should let's say he was talking
about Ian?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, like his statement, I didn't because I feel like, man,
he wants everyone to like It almost felt to me
like he wants people to sound like their their local influences.
He was because he said stuff like people in La
saying slime where It's like, I feel like regionalism is
kind of like dying because of the Internet. You know
(21:50):
what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So
and it's the reason why you got a bunch of
a bunch of niggas from Florida rapping on Detroit beats.
And it's like, I'm not mad at that. Me personally,
I'm not mad at that but I funk with the
music like boss Man Di Lolo Tyler. They all rap
on like Detroit style. He's even Atlanta rappers are like
Lo Yacht's rapping on like New York drill.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I think that's cool. I think all that stuff did
a whole fucking Detroit project. Yeah exactly. You know, I
think things like that are cool. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think his idea and his thoughts were kind of
like regressive.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So yeah, that's fair. Sure, I mean yeah, I'm sure
he would have an opportunity to elaborate. Yeah, and clear
that up, right, Tyler? I love you though, I love you.
Do you like the Ian kid? I like Ian? Did
you say do I love him? I said, do you
like it? Oh? Yeah, I like him? You know he's
(22:44):
he's got to. I like the Magic Johnson. So the
Man of Johnson song is tight. He does look like
the kind of kid that copied his homework off of
to try to get a good grade. He looks like
he's got a hell of a GPA. I don't think
he needed the copy. He looks like he was. He
looks like a stellar kid. He looks like the kind
of kid that would be at the Playboy Cardi Country.
I talked to him the dirty Dirty Forces, Yeah for sure,
(23:04):
A white T shirt. Ye musty, musty as fuck, smell
like outside, Yeah it smell like the sun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
No if I fuck with Ian though, I fuck with
Ian dude, He's super tight.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So how did you and Sean initially link up? You know?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It so crazy on some like not to be like
such shit. I really feel like it was like manifestation, bro,
Like I used to copy dude so much, like as
a as a teenager, Like that's why I'm staying at
his house out here too. And it's just like sometimes
I be thinking, like, bro, like teenager me would be
like what the fuck you know what I'm saying? But
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to not be so fantasy stilly Cinderella. I met him
through through like his team started taking a liking to
me because, like I think, because I was just rapping
like him so much at that time that like his
team gotta got wind to me. And then I started
building relationships with those guys, and then I started doing
(24:01):
like I started doing my own music videos too, and
they like super gravitated towards that and started telling Shauna.
I mean, everybody just kept telling Shannabo like, Yo, it's
his kids. This kid is his kid. And then one
day we we just met. We met at he he
does this thing every year and De Trey called don
Life like down like weekend with like charity events and
(24:21):
he gives back. And then from there we've just been
like super tight. So anytime I come out to l A,
I just kick it with him or whatever. He takes
me around.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So when did he decide to put you on down Life? Yeah? Bro?
Does he charge you rent? Nah? He doesn't. I mean
I don't live with the niggas though I nig get
you with like the airbnbfeed, like, hey, how many be
you gonna be here? No?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Bro, It's like nah, look bro, I'll be trying to
go home. He like, Bro, now y'all stay stay extra week, will.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Be doing this. So we're doing this and be like God, damn,
I'd be homesick.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Are you excited for tour? Super excited? A. This is
a bittersweet. Touring is like touring is annoying, especially at
this level where it's.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like what's last tour you did? I did? Yeah? I
d and Smino. Yeah that was a that was a
solid Yeah. Co headliner between those two guys. Yeah, it
was fire.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Touring is just like like I said, at our level,
it's like eighteen niggas in one hotel room, niggas sleeping
in a tub, like terrible food.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's always terrible. Well yeah, terrible food period. Yeah. Yeah,
it's a bittersweet.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's fun going out there and like seeing the people
who are like fucking with your stuff, buying your music
and like just super supportive. But it's also like draining too.
But it's like, at least I get to do it,
you know, Yeah, I feel like tour.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I'm not gonna lie. Touring looks like it would suck.
After like a week, you'd be like it sounds great,
and then you get out there and you're like, fuck,
I want to go home.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's like exactly, and shout out to Tron because this
is his fourth time going out on tour this year,
like he's insane. He's insane. That's a lot, Yeah, exactly,
four four times is insane. Brother, Yeah, that's a lot
of India. Obviously, you got music out, you got your
project out. What is there anything?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Obviously you're working a lot, probably a big Shawn's house
on your done Life debut. But what else here? A
lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
We're working on my deluxe for Aero four four, a
lot of my I've got a lot of music. I'm
on a lot of other big rappers songs and stuff.
I don't want to put their stuff out there.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Just a big Sean album for sure, for sure. Yeah,
I've said that. Yeah, he already said this all I'm cool.
But yeah, yeah, we're just working. I've been talking to
Cold be in it too. He wants to do something,
you know what I'm saying. We're trying to figure that
out or do a video well, because you're like a
creative so like yeah, I like directing, edit my own
videos too, and he just you edit your own Yeah,
(26:51):
what do you edited?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
On a premiere? Premiere in after Effix And they're not
color grading Da Vinci.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm really like that. But you really good color Jesus Christ.
You jack off on the computer. Yeah on Da Vinci,
on d vin Bro. You gotta get on there, so
you color, you color your own ship. I'm doing all
of it, not so much lately. It depends what it is.
You've done it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I usually do, but like for bigger stuff,
I'm probably going to pass it off to somebody.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Do you record yourself? Can you do?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I record myself. I usually I make most of my
beats too, Like, yeah, I'm that guy.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So you could do it all. I could do it all.
I don't need exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's like, why you know I got an analogy? We
don't got to keep talking about jacking off? But like
I'm comfortable with to convo if you are, But like
I have an analogy. Where's It's just like, bro, why
why get pussy when like you know how to do it?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Like nobody knows how to do it better than you.
You know what I'm saying. No, you know what I now.
But now we're talking about actually jack No, we're not.
We're not. We're not. We're not. Why get pussy if
you know how to jack yourself off better?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You know what I'm saying. It's like, why go get
this random this brando? Yeah that you don't know just
the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
If it's gonna hit like that, I will say this,
uh there there, who's the guy who says you got
to have a certain amount of money in the bank
before you try to go get some kids, No, before
you just try to take a woman serious, because you
really was that Kevin Samuel's or something. No, somebody else
in a similar space, the tape guy noodn't tape. But nonetheless,
(28:30):
it's like, if you're gonna go out and be promiscuous
with women and you don't have your own ship figured out,
what happens if she gets pregnant and now you're fucked?
Fuck them kids, Yeah, I mean there's that, you know,
just you know, there's always this mich mortion. I mean,
dead beat is the way dad beats the wave. I
like that. Yeah, you got kids, I got too of them.
(28:51):
Fuck them though. Yeah, I'm about to go home right now.
Kick him out, Kick him out on the street, eating
up on my fucking groceries, using all my electricity, all
my wifi's running up the Fortnite bill on my car exactly, bro,
the four roadblocks. No, Now, my kid's older. Now he's
on Fortnite Fortnight. Yeah, but they're driving around in the
(29:12):
fucking cyber truck on Fortnitely. Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
She just let him killing people as the weekend, like
they're the weekend building ship and smoking fools. Yeah, exactly,
that's not tight. Do you play games at times? Which
game right now? I've been heavy on like seven Days
to Die I Ain't Gonna lie, which is like a
little bitch game. What's it called seven Days to Die?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh? No, not seven Days to Die? I'm sorry. I've
been playing that too. I meant dead by day. Like,
my son plays that like a little little bits a
serial killer one his son, not a little bit though.
He's cool. Well, my son's fucking he's a nineteen year old,
he's eight, nineteen nineteen. No, but he plays that with
his friends. That's the one where someone's a serial killer. Yeah,
you gotta like fix the generators and it's kind of hard.
(29:55):
It's cool. Yeah, it's cool. I think I feel jerking
off on there. No, bro, ya get wrong, You're weird. Look,
it's been a great conversation about a Yeah. Uh, congrats
on the tour, Thank you, bro. The album is out
deluxe is on the way you said, yes Era four
(30:15):
four get, which is what if you go onto the
website and it's not there, you get the gag exactly, yes,
which is is artsy. I'm intentional. But see what you did, man? Yeah,
at least you didn't go control delete on them. No,
I'm not that might be a sequel. Really, I feel
like that's been done a lot, don't you control I
think sequels are asked. I would never Yeah, I mean
(30:38):
for the most part, sequels never quite live up to
uh in hip hop at least. I mean still Madic
was good. Uh, Marshall Mathers LP two was not. I
like The King's Disease stuff. You know. I actually think
that they got better as they went along. They got better.
(31:00):
The King Diseases one I got, I Got and hit
Boy and uh hmm, well, oh Detroit too was dope.
Yeah yeah, yeah, but not as good as Detroit one.
Detroit one classic though, but Detroit two was damn good.
My second favorite Sean album sky Oh you got Detroit
two over Detroit one? No, no, no, I still look
(31:22):
at Detroit I mean I have to go on that
pith to listen to it. Yeah. So yeah, if I
were to put Detroit one into the mix, it it'd
be different. It'd be number two. Okay, got you got you?
Yes shot anyway, looks man, I appreciate you pulling up.
They said you down to wrap, You're down to wrap.
Unfortunately I am all right, Well we're gonna go ahead,
(31:43):
and and this piece of content, and there'll be a
separate video where you could watch this guy do a
thing he's about to jack off all over the beat
dog exactly get it Shirty
What's up. It's Nasigan. Check me out on a Boulet
cav podcast Bhulet Cavs show. We in here, man, we
got a special guest, the homie na San is.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
In the building. Welcome, welcome, welcome. How you doing, bro?
I'm good brother. I saw you at the BET Awards. Yeah,
you were doing the radio room and then uh we
just ran into each other at Larry June Larry June, Yeah,
Larry June show. For sure. Let me just say, big fans,
thank you. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's crazy being here. It would be like so fascinating,
like like actually being in these.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Spaces con I curse, yeah, I don't care fu.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, in these spaces and realizing like, oh, this is
what the fun The setup looked like, like it's like
on the.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Camera and then it's like you're like, oh it's different,
yeah exactly. Yeah, so this fire, Hey, thanks for coming man, So, uh,
no problem? Are you signed a big Sean Now? I
see this Dawn life chain. Is that what's going on?
Because you sure have been hanging with Sean quite a
bit lately. That's my dog. You were with him at
(01:04):
the on the Radar Freestyle. It's my dog, man, it's
my dog. You have to chain on. It's my dog, man,
that's my dog. You you watching too much, bro, right,
So what's it like being signed a big Sean In
the short amount of time since it's happened. Has it
been good? Wow? That's crazy. Just just jump in there
like it's been good. Such a nice guy, right.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Sean is my homie, man, that's the that's the like
greatest guy in the world. You know what I'm saying,
Like so so giving, so caring, so selfless. Like I
don't know if I can say, but I'm on his
album too, it's coming out at the end of this month,
like it's the guy man. So I'm gonna say, is
it just you on his album? Like on the song
(01:46):
on his album it's me and him man, But it's
like someone else on there too.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Mm hmmm. I don't believe you. I don't believe me.
I feel like if like you him and baby trying
to be kind of sick, oh, that would have been
all yeah, yeah, that's been crazy fishing right now. Yeah,
you know, let me not say that we almost got him,
we almost got him.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I do feel like though I should have had a
verse on a Marshall song, I think that would have
been crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That would have been crazy. Uh, you're talking about the Toby. Yeah,
Toby is a fire record. Toby's an amazing record. They
all did their thing, ah my fault. Yeah, they all
did their thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I just think that I should have been on there too.
You know what I'm saying, jacking off a little bit? Yeah,
like getting off right right?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right? Okay, okay, sorry, you're not up on a young
young Well, when I grew up, jacking off meant something else.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, you know, I mean something different now, So you
just gotta start saying jacking off like when when when
you're doing some hards Have you ever.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Jacked off on the bus? What are we talking about?
I don't even know anymore, if I'm being honest, because
I don't know what you're referring to as jack like,
so you just not hit bro. You gotta get on TikTok.
See I'm not on TikTok. Well, I mean I have
it on my phone, but I don't like I'm not
on it, you know, right? Yeah, yeah, so they talk
about jacking off on TikTok. Yeah, but you're talking about
(03:13):
some difference. No, I'm not. I'm talking about whatever, whatever
type of jacking off you're talking about, you've done it
on a bus? No, never, never, not on a bus.
Why you ask me no? Because I just didn't know
if like, your definition of jacking off is able to
ben bus.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, where'd the bus come from? Though you've done that,
you had to have done that. I mean, that's so random.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I've been on the bus and saw someone jacking off before.
It was creepy. Probably was me. Different types. So for
the kids, jacking off means doing something hard. Fire yeah, fire.
So if I like cook some very good like dinner,
I could be like, I jacked off on that dinner.
Yeah nice, Yeah you went crazy. I went crazy on
that dinner. I jacked off dinner, you know. Fire. I
(03:51):
liked that. Yeah, I'm gonna start using that more. Yeah,
but just with people who are my age so they
look at me crazy, Yeah exactly. Yeah. Anyway, nice. Well,
I'm glad we're getting a nice little I don't even
know that. I wouldn't say you guys, you're younger than
a millennial. I'm I don't know what years that. I
don't even know, but I'm just glad we're getting the
nice like TikTok breakdown of language. What is demure? I
(04:14):
haven't seen people say I.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Seen that too. Women need to be quiet. Sometimes I
think I don't know what's what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah? What does that mean? What does that mean? What
does that mean? Demure? What's demure? Modest? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
like that's a demure house you have? Exactly. That's a wait. No,
you can't use it with the jack off. You can't
(04:43):
mix it. You can't mix demure and jacking off. Not
jacking off, bro, you can mix the dinner weird. You
can't jack off while being demure. Yeah, exactly. So you
can't do something hard while being modest, exactly. Yeah, they're
two different. Getting some math done. So have you been
able to link with Eminem? Obviously Eminem is so close
(05:05):
to your pops.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, of course I I was just trying to go
see him last week actually, but he was in LA
he was out here. I was in Detroit trying to
link with them. But I'm probably gonna do that when
I go back. Yeah, anytime I want to see them
and pull up on them, hit them. You know what
I'm saying, They're available. I don't I done as much
(05:27):
because it's like I'm finding my own way in this stuff,
you know what I'm saying, just like getting it done,
making my own relationships. Since I was a teenager, I
just kind of like always wanted to like make them
proud by just like not leaning on them so much.
But like there's times I'll just pull up, play them music,
get their advice on certain things, ask them questions, pick
their brains him and Royce especially because they've been through
(05:48):
a lot of the things that I'm about to go through, you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Know what I'm saying, Just like Royce has been through
so much in the music industry, being independent, writing major labels, everything,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So, yeah, just like picking their brains that I could
skip some of those hurdles.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, did he ever tell you the story? Because from
what I understand, Royce and your dad were locked up
the same night. Yeah, they were, they were b thing
and there was this beat, but they ended up in
the same cell exactly, and then that's where they kind
of squashed it. Yeah, which is crazy because now you
guys have a song that's going crazy and it's all
Madden congrass.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, thank you bro, thank you have it and heard
it yet I haven't. They sent it to me as
a birthday gift, and I'm like, oh, thank you. I'm
probably gonna do that when I get back home. I've
been out here for so long, like two weeks now.
So yeah, because you grew up in Atlanta, I grew
up in Atlanta. Yeah, I grew up in Atlanta. So
is that home for you? Atlanta kind of is home
(06:41):
for me. I mean, I live in Detroit now. I
moved back twenty twenty one. So from like two thousand
and seven to twenty twenty it was like me and Atlanta, right,
But yeah, so that's like what I know. That was
like my formative years, like where I became a man
and like, sure, just lost my virginity and stuff. Stop
(07:03):
peeing in a bit at thirteen?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
How old were you even lost virginity? Twelve? Jesus No,
but look peep that bro.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I lost my virginia when I was twelve, okay, And
I stopped pissing in the bed at thirteen.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So you were still pissing in the bed when you
lost your virginity. I was getting cheeks and going home
and pissing on my mattress. Wow. How old was the
girl you slept with at twelve, she was thirteen. Okay,
at least she wasn't like twenty one you no, no, yeah,
not no crazyness Sometimes, like dudes I know have lost
their virginity young. It's always to like a babysitter and
they say how they were on. My dude, you got molested.
(07:38):
That's weird. There's no qualms about it, like someone prayed
on you, like not demere, not to miror not demere.
Why were you paying your bed until thirteen? Was it
like a mental thing? What was going on there?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I honestly think it's hereditary. Bro, My dad did too.
Oh he stopped when he was fourteen. Yeah, just for
big pissers. It was the fifth tissy family.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Bro, your mattress had a small crazy Yeah. Bro, you
ever go to like growing up, I go over to
my homie's house, you know, and he'd be sharing sharing
bedrooms with his little brother, and his little brother's bed
was smell like his. Bro.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I used to be sick because I couldn't like spend
the night over nobody house or pee exactly, and then
like my nobody even my family members an't want me
coming over here, like no.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This nigga. You got someone like that in my family, right, like, yeah,
you know what the fuck up your frienditure? Yo? Man, hey, yo,
just I got an air mattress. Yeah exactly, yeah, put
it in the garage. Not give them the nice blanket, exactly,
give them the blanks were thinking about throwing away. Anyway,
My grandma had bought me these draws, like they had
an alarm on them and like.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If they were wet, if they get wet, they'll like
go off. Yeah, it was crazy. That didn't work though.
That didn't work. It didn't work.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's I wonder if they still make those.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You probably do. I should have looked at them, invest
in them for my dog. Oh yeah, he's a pisser.
He's a wild guy.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
He's the pistol do Yeah, a Pomeranian and a French bulldog.
You have Pomeranian? Is the Pomeranian yours? I would say,
he's mine? You are? You are? You? Do you have
a lady in your life? Yeah? My wife? It's a
hard dog. Did she pick it? Does he? What? Did
she picked the dog that that breed? It was? I
(09:20):
bought that dog for her as a gift because she
wanted But now I love the dog. I understand it's
a very I was just it's a very feminine breed
to own as a man, I can't say that. Yeah,
Like if I wasn't married and I've told you I
just had a Pomeranian, you look at me way different. No,
I mean you had a Pomeranian. Yeah, I mean your
(09:41):
slag is your slag just real fucking demrror over there,
dog breed yours. And then I got a friend sheet.
It was just like a fucking he's a pisser sand path. Yeah,
you got one of them, big strong as No, I
got like a real little tiny f he's he's just
he bites. Everybody bites this for all the time. Yeah, yeah,
shout to. His name is Larry. Shut out to Larry.
(10:03):
And then the Pomerania's name is Lebowski. That what is
that Italian? The Big Lebowski. It's a movie. I'm not
familiar John Goodman and Jeff Bridges. That how you spell
it too? Yeah, Lebowski? Yeah, it's Goodski. Explain the stars
on your face, because you've had the stars every time
(10:24):
I've seen you. You got the stars kind of your thing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, it's kind of my thing. Shout out to Julia's starface.
She like, you know what I'm saying, keep me right,
but just.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Let me tell you what before you tell us. When
I see him, I think about when I did a
good job on my homework exactly. Yes, that's what they are.
I work for this company called ARA four for go
stream Ara for four, and this is just like, you
know what I'm saying, insignia of me doing a good
job over there. Good job, I did a good job. Nice? Yeah,
(10:53):
are you you said something earlier, like trying to make
sure you kind of paved your own way, because obviously
for people we didn't even say who your dad was officially,
but your dad was Proof from D twelve. He actually
had a lot of I'm from Phoenix and he was
out of Phoenix heavy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Before he passed, he was trying to get a crib
out there. Yeah that's what I heard. Yeah, he loved Arizona. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's crazy because I feel like Proof is like one
of these like figures in hip hop that was like
just so like important behind the scenes obviously. Yeah, lyrically,
just like an absolute Jedi. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's interesting. It's like as far as my generation, it's
like so many I don't know, it's so great with
him being my dad because it's like to the to
the crowd I speak to, not that many people know him, right,
so it's like they're like, we don't know what you're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
They don't have like a preconceived like they haven't made
their mind up about you already, like that crowd, because
it's like you.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Know, yeah exactly. But then versus like, you know what
I'm saying, the older guys, but like you guys you
got not you guys thirty seven, the older guys know.
And that's like that place to my benefit too, it
like helps me in certain rooms. And you know what
I'm saying, it's just like this this level of respect
that's kind of like given to me because he was
just like such a wonderful and great guy I think
(12:16):
while he was here on his earth, and he was just.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Like a great artist too. Yeah, he was respected. You
know what I'm saying that right, wasn't even his solo
album with the with the with the Search and for
Jerick it was hard Yeah, yeah, great? What was one
of the craziest album covers ever? Yeah? No this, Yeah,
I was thinking about getting that tattoo. You got like
his name right here, I'd be hard. Yeah, Marshall got
(12:39):
it too. I was thinking about it. Yeah, should I
had some Marshall man for you? Though? Is it like
because your dad passed away when you're really young, right
like seven? Yeah, so obviously like growing up kind of
starting to make music knowing who your dad was, did
you go back and like yeah, for sure, Like, yo,
I need to go listen to you know of what
(13:02):
the fuck a D twelve album more?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know, like, uh, yeah, I didn't like it, honestly, Like,
but I did feel like I was like I should check.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
It was more so me just being curious about who
my father is. You're crazy on the two d Dwelf albums, No,
the Devil's Night in a D twelve world.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, I'm not saying it's bad music. It just wasn't
my thing on there, though, No, it is it is.
I think I think how come is on the second
that's my coming Fire. There's some shit on there. Like
my band is like one of my I mean not
to be that guy that like picks the biggest song
they have, but like my band is like more of
my swag, I like goofy with a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Of Purple Pills was purple fire. That's like, you know,
it's so crazy. I missed when Eminem was like fucking
heavy making beats because he had like a real sound.
Like I know, people was like back then would be
like Eminem's got all his beats out the same, but
I'm like, yo, that's like he had a sound. No,
he did. He sent mesic beats recently and were like
(14:00):
they were like on Matt Swag and I was like, oh, yeah,
I'm you gotta do that. I gotta do that. Yeah,
I like it. Yeah, So, uh, your album's out, You're
about to go on tour with Baby Tron and BP
coachher Yeah yeah and BP Coacher shots at those guys,
Baby Tron and you uh, you guys got music together.
(14:23):
He's also for people who don't know, he had a
dad in the local Detroit rap scene. I just I
just heard about that. Yeah, his dad was signed to
uh Psychopathic Records ICP and them right. Yeah, Yeah, that's
kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Shut out to drone that's gotten crazy, set out to
Drying broa.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Know, the ICP like Niche of the World. Yeah, it's
it's pretty intense. No, definitely, like those jug like like,
have you met Juggalos I have. Yeah, Yeah, they're pretty
pretty serious. They're dedicated, bro, you know, like on some
crazy shit. I feel like he has like a simular
like a cult following very hard this thing that's going
(15:07):
on over here that's like super strong, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, And he's like I think about what
I like about if you hang out with Tron, he's
just like a kid still. Yeah, Like he's just like
he's just like a little kid who likes to smoke
weed and he's got funny hass bars. Yeah, yeah, exactly. No,
he's tight. Bro. Sometimes you be hanging out with some
of these young kids that these motherfuckers take themselves so
(15:27):
goddamn serious, and it's just like, yeah, it's okay, it's
like chill out. Yeah. You also often have a similar
fit on Yeah, big Musky, you have your I think
I've seen that work one of two ways where people
will fall in love with you based on whatever your
(15:49):
quote unquote images for whatever project or whatever. Right, Yeah,
I'm speaking to that guy, like my guy g Easy,
Like g Easy, he had the black jacket for like
the first of the leather, but then when he like
wanted to just like we're fitted. Yeah. Like people are like, yo, bro,
you're supposed to be right, yeah are you?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Like see, I think as an artist it is important too,
And I've been thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I did this.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I did this intentionally because it helps with brand recognition
and like people people know me every time they see me,
you know what I'm saying, So it's like, oh, that's
the same guy that did this and this and this.
I think it's important, especially like starting off as an
artist where it's it's like so many fucking ate yourself
and then you're people are like that's the guy. Yeah exactly,
(16:31):
so yes, and I think you do it again. Like
so for my next project, I'm gonna I'm going to
do something similar, but it won't be me wearing the
exact same fucking shit every day.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Though. This is me wearing the exact same thing every day.
You have I mean multiples, Yeah, I have multiples, but
it's still like, yeah, it's just pissing the bed.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
He's also not no, no, no, no, we're chilling, but
it's like, yeah, I don't I'm not gonna wear this shit.
Whatever I do next, it won't be the same thing,
but it would be like more formulaic, it'll be like
he would.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I don't know, I can't describe it. We'll talk about
I also think about it like the other way, right, okay,
is we think of Kanye's career exactly, and every Kanye
album he had an aesthetic for the most part exactly.
And you were like, and you you've probably seen like
some of the memes where it'll be like Kanye walking
(17:24):
yeah and then he walks to exactly yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a few artists like that, and so I think
that would be dope. Like if you yo, this album
is out, tours over, I'm about to get into this
new mode and we're about to switch up exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's the go for me. I think en and re
event as an artist is just super important. You know
who does a great job of that?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Are you? Are you a Cardi fan of the Playboy sorts? Yes,
beat sorts of If you were to ask me if
I was a Playboy Cardi fan, I would probably say, like, uh, okay,
let's not get you in trouble. I say, no, you're
hip though obviously I've seen him live. I mean I
like to dilate a lot. Yeah, that looks cool. I
(18:02):
just you know, uh, Cardi is a very very I
would just say like acquired taste. Mm and uh, I
just I'm not sure. I think like, you know, like
he's the only guy who makes me feel washed. I'm
gonna be honest. Yeah, how old are you? A? Game?
Thirty seven? All the other ship I get the Cardi shit.
I was signing a show dog and I didn't know
what the fuck was going on dog. Really, it was
(18:23):
just dirty fucking white kids and fucking and air forces mashing. Yeah,
he's just going. And there's some white dude up there,
looks like he's on arrowing and he's just like, you
got a vamp, you gotta get in there and go.
I just I was just I do like though I
like Destroy Lonely. Yeah. I like his stuff more than
(18:46):
Cardi stuff really, And he signed a Cardi is but
there are some Cardi records I really do like a lot.
He's very unique and he's a one of one, so
I can respect his individualism. Not a vamp bro No,
I'm not a van no, no, no, I'm disappointed. I'm
disappointed to do like vampire movies. So you ever watch
True Blood? Great show?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now I've seen Blade though, that vampire. Yeah, Blade's half
half human for sure. Did you see Blade pop out
in the new Dead bol Wolver movie.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I did. I fell asleep on that movie. The movie
was great.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I was just tired that day because you asleep. No,
I was just tired, bro, I was just tired. It
was it was a great movie. You were bringing a
playboy Cardi for a reason. Get your point. You said
you know some about reinventing, and then you asked, oh yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, Cardi is like I think he's super great
at that. It's like he's a brand new artist. Like
every album, I feel like every project, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No for sure, like if that's one hundred percent, yeah, no,
that's fair. He has the phase is yeah yeah, yeah,
what's the last one? Whole lot of red? A whole
lot of red? Yeah exactly. When that was what four
years ago, twenty December Christmas? I was, Yes. I remember
getting in my car to drive to CBS because the
only thing open on Christmas, throwing it on, being like
(20:00):
what the fuck's going on here? Yeah, and then I
went in to get a I think I went in
to get some diet coke. It was like, I don't
know eleven thirty at night and Diet Coke and Nick
Cannon listen. On Christmas Night, Nick Cannon is in the
CVS and Burbank alone buying stuff for his twelve babies.
Really yeah, all twelve of them. I mean, I don't
know if he had twelve at that point. He probably
was like a six second I don't know. He look,
(20:22):
he ran him up all in one year.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
First went stupid, Yeah, stupid, just sitting in the house
house Harney.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah. Yeah, So for you, like moving to Detroit kind
of after like going up in Atlanta and like kind
of seeing because I always, you know, say that Detroit's
got this I feel like movement that's been happening in
the last two or three years. And I mean a
lot of the music industry is kind of biting Detroit,
(20:50):
like everybody's trying to sign somebody from Detroit. Troit, Yeah,
for so much energy coming out of the city, and
there's a sound definitely the only thing I'm kind of
upset about.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And I'm not even upset about it anymore because Tyler
said something recently on the interview and I felt like
it was so the creator sorts of the creator sorts.
I feel like it was so old nigga of the sorts,
You know what I'm saying, Like, like his sentiment, it
was kind of like he was saying, I love Tyler
by the way, but he was just saying like he
was talking about the Ian guy.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Are we sure he was talk about Ian? We don't know.
We don't know. I mean, he didn't. Everyone assumed he
was somebody in but he didn't say. I don't know
which other white person he could be talking about. I digress,
I digress. Go ahead, should let's say he was talking
about Ian?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, like his statement, I didn't because I feel like, man,
he wants everyone to like It almost felt to me
like he wants people to sound like their their local influences.
He was because he said stuff like people in La
saying slime where It's like, I feel like regionalism is
kind of like dying because of the Internet. You know
(21:50):
what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So
and it's the reason why you got a bunch of
a bunch of niggas from Florida rapping on Detroit beats.
And it's like, I'm not mad at that. Me personally,
I'm not mad at that but I funk with the
music like boss Man Di Lolo Tyler. They all rap
on like Detroit style. He's even Atlanta rappers are like
Lo Yacht's rapping on like New York drill.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I think that's cool. I think all that stuff did
a whole fucking Detroit project. Yeah exactly. You know, I
think things like that are cool. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think his idea and his thoughts were kind of
like regressive.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So yeah, that's fair. Sure, I mean yeah, I'm sure
he would have an opportunity to elaborate. Yeah, and clear
that up, right, Tyler? I love you though, I love you.
Do you like the Ian kid? I like Ian? Did
you say do I love him? I said, do you
like it? Oh? Yeah, I like him? You know he's
(22:44):
he's got to. I like the Magic Johnson. So the
Man of Johnson song is tight. He does look like
the kind of kid that copied his homework off of
to try to get a good grade. He looks like
he's got a hell of a GPA. I don't think
he needed the copy. He looks like he was. He
looks like a stellar kid. He looks like the kind
of kid that would be at the Playboy Cardi Country.
I talked to him the dirty Dirty Forces, Yeah for sure,
(23:04):
A white T shirt. Ye musty, musty as fuck, smell
like outside, Yeah it smell like the sun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
No if I fuck with Ian though, I fuck with
Ian dude, He's super tight.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So how did you and Sean initially link up? You know?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It so crazy on some like not to be like
such shit. I really feel like it was like manifestation, bro,
Like I used to copy dude so much, like as
a as a teenager, Like that's why I'm staying at
his house out here too. And it's just like sometimes
I be thinking, like, bro, like teenager me would be
like what the fuck you know what I'm saying? But
(23:39):
to not be so fantasy stilly Cinderella. I met him
through through like his team started taking a liking to
me because, like I think, because I was just rapping
like him so much at that time that like his
team gotta got wind to me. And then I started
building relationships with those guys, and then I started doing
(24:01):
like I started doing my own music videos too, and
they like super gravitated towards that and started telling Shauna.
I mean, everybody just kept telling Shannabo like, Yo, it's
his kids. This kid is his kid. And then one
day we we just met. We met at he he
does this thing every year and De Trey called don
Life like down like weekend with like charity events and
(24:21):
he gives back. And then from there we've just been
like super tight. So anytime I come out to l A,
I just kick it with him or whatever. He takes
me around.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So when did he decide to put you on down Life? Yeah? Bro?
Does he charge you rent? Nah? He doesn't. I mean
I don't live with the niggas though I nig get
you with like the airbnbfeed, like, hey, how many be
you gonna be here? No?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Bro, It's like nah, look bro, I'll be trying to
go home. He like, Bro, now y'all stay stay extra week, will.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Be doing this. So we're doing this and be like God, damn,
I'd be homesick.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Are you excited for tour? Super excited? A. This is
a bittersweet. Touring is like touring is annoying, especially at
this level where it's.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like what's last tour you did? I did? Yeah? I
d and Smino. Yeah that was a that was a
solid Yeah. Co headliner between those two guys. Yeah, it
was fire.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Touring is just like like I said, at our level,
it's like eighteen niggas in one hotel room, niggas sleeping
in a tub, like terrible food.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's always terrible. Well yeah, terrible food period. Yeah. Yeah,
it's a bittersweet.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's fun going out there and like seeing the people
who are like fucking with your stuff, buying your music
and like just super supportive. But it's also like draining too.
But it's like, at least I get to do it,
you know, Yeah, I feel like tour.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I'm not gonna lie. Touring looks like it would suck.
After like a week, you'd be like it sounds great,
and then you get out there and you're like, fuck,
I want to go home.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's like exactly, and shout out to Tron because this
is his fourth time going out on tour this year,
like he's insane. He's insane. That's a lot, Yeah, exactly,
four four times is insane. Brother, Yeah, that's a lot
of India. Obviously, you got music out, you got your
project out. What is there anything?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Obviously you're working a lot, probably a big Shawn's house
on your done Life debut. But what else here? A
lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
We're working on my deluxe for Aero four four, a
lot of my I've got a lot of music. I'm
on a lot of other big rappers songs and stuff.
I don't want to put their stuff out there.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Just a big Sean album for sure, for sure. Yeah,
I've said that. Yeah, he already said this all I'm cool.
But yeah, yeah, we're just working. I've been talking to
Cold be in it too. He wants to do something,
you know what I'm saying. We're trying to figure that
out or do a video well, because you're like a
creative so like yeah, I like directing, edit my own
videos too, and he just you edit your own Yeah,
(26:51):
what do you edited?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
On a premiere? Premiere in after Effix And they're not
color grading Da Vinci.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm really like that. But you really good color Jesus Christ.
You jack off on the computer. Yeah on Da Vinci,
on d vin Bro. You gotta get on there, so
you color, you color your own ship. I'm doing all
of it, not so much lately. It depends what it is.
You've done it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I usually do, but like for bigger stuff,
I'm probably going to pass it off to somebody.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Do you record yourself? Can you do?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I record myself. I usually I make most of my
beats too, Like, yeah, I'm that guy.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So you could do it all. I could do it all.
I don't need exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's like, why you know I got an analogy? We
don't got to keep talking about jacking off? But like
I'm comfortable with to convo if you are, But like
I have an analogy. Where's It's just like, bro, why
why get pussy when like you know how to do it?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Like nobody knows how to do it better than you.
You know what I'm saying. No, you know what I now.
But now we're talking about actually jack No, we're not.
We're not. We're not. We're not. Why get pussy if
you know how to jack yourself off better?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You know what I'm saying. It's like, why go get
this random this brando? Yeah that you don't know just
the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
If it's gonna hit like that, I will say this,
uh there there, who's the guy who says you got
to have a certain amount of money in the bank
before you try to go get some kids, No, before
you just try to take a woman serious, because you
really was that Kevin Samuel's or something. No, somebody else
in a similar space, the tape guy noodn't tape. But nonetheless,
(28:30):
it's like, if you're gonna go out and be promiscuous
with women and you don't have your own ship figured out,
what happens if she gets pregnant and now you're fucked?
Fuck them kids, Yeah, I mean there's that, you know,
just you know, there's always this mich mortion. I mean,
dead beat is the way dad beats the wave. I
like that. Yeah, you got kids, I got too of them.
(28:51):
Fuck them though. Yeah, I'm about to go home right now.
Kick him out, Kick him out on the street, eating
up on my fucking groceries, using all my electricity, all
my wifi's running up the Fortnite bill on my car exactly, bro,
the four roadblocks. No, Now, my kid's older. Now he's
on Fortnite Fortnight. Yeah, but they're driving around in the
(29:12):
fucking cyber truck on Fortnitely. Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
She just let him killing people as the weekend, like
they're the weekend building ship and smoking fools. Yeah, exactly,
that's not tight. Do you play games at times? Which
game right now? I've been heavy on like seven Days
to Die I Ain't Gonna lie, which is like a
little bitch game. What's it called seven Days to Die?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh? No, not seven Days to Die? I'm sorry. I've
been playing that too. I meant dead by day. Like,
my son plays that like a little little bits a
serial killer one his son, not a little bit though.
He's cool. Well, my son's fucking he's a nineteen year old,
he's eight, nineteen nineteen. No, but he plays that with
his friends. That's the one where someone's a serial killer. Yeah,
you gotta like fix the generators and it's kind of hard.
(29:55):
It's cool. Yeah, it's cool. I think I feel jerking
off on there. No, bro, ya get wrong, You're weird. Look,
it's been a great conversation about a Yeah. Uh, congrats
on the tour, Thank you, bro. The album is out
deluxe is on the way you said, yes Era four
(30:15):
four get, which is what if you go onto the
website and it's not there, you get the gag exactly, yes,
which is is artsy. I'm intentional. But see what you did, man? Yeah,
at least you didn't go control delete on them. No,
I'm not that might be a sequel. Really, I feel
like that's been done a lot, don't you control I
think sequels are asked. I would never Yeah, I mean
(30:38):
for the most part, sequels never quite live up to
uh in hip hop at least. I mean still Madic
was good. Uh, Marshall Mathers LP two was not. I
like The King's Disease stuff. You know. I actually think
that they got better as they went along. They got better.
(31:00):
The King Diseases one I got, I Got and hit
Boy and uh hmm, well, oh Detroit too was dope.
Yeah yeah, yeah, but not as good as Detroit one.
Detroit one classic though, but Detroit two was damn good.
My second favorite Sean album sky Oh you got Detroit
two over Detroit one? No, no, no, I still look
(31:22):
at Detroit I mean I have to go on that
pith to listen to it. Yeah. So yeah, if I
were to put Detroit one into the mix, it it'd
be different. It'd be number two. Okay, got you got you?
Yes shot anyway, looks man, I appreciate you pulling up.
They said you down to wrap, You're down to wrap.
Unfortunately I am all right, Well we're gonna go ahead,
(31:43):
and and this piece of content, and there'll be a
separate video where you could watch this guy do a
thing he's about to jack off all over the beat
dog exactly get it Shirty
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