February 14, 2025 • 30 mins
Interview with Morray on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.
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Speaker 4 (00:56):
Man, we got a special guest in hear my Dog.
I ain't seen him in a minute, but he is back.
More Ray, sir, Yo, it's raining like crazy in l A.
If you can see he's he's soaked.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I'm soaked. You can't see it as much on me.
Straight out the rain, okay, straight off the ring.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Real.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What's good though?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Man?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
It's crazy, man, because I feel like I want I mean, obviously,
I know, I know you've talked about it a bit,
but I want to kind of break down what's been
going on the last couple of years because you have
so much momentum. Uh your ep was Crazy quicksand was
going up. I mean, you opened up for J Cole
and I just felt like you really stole the show
on that tour, man, Like, if you got there early,
you gave them a show.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I had had to compete with twenty one and J.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah, man, I got I got to go to to
the to the l A show, and I was like,
shout to epic because at the time you were epic.
I think, right, okay, okay, somebody gave me the tickets,
but uh, yeah man. And then I feel like the
last couple of years you'd kind of been a little
bit out the way.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
What what is? What is? I mean? Uh, you know
you were signed with south Side and MO and that
that went sour. I'm assuming you mean, yeah, I was
with Pick six emotional. I wasn't sounding south, but I
know he has he's something to do with So pick
six is is motional easy? Okay? Yeah, so but I right, right, right, okay, Yeah,
(02:14):
I saw emotional leazy, and then you know, differences happened.
You know, we all think differently. We have different emotions
about the music, we have different ways of how you
want to push, we have different things we want to
speak about, and you know, sometimes business get involved too,
and then personal films can involve too, like you know,
if you know the story, you know, like he he
helped me get there for me, so the emotions get involved,
is yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Because essentially you had gone viral with quicksand Yeah, which
was an absolute organic smn not that just went insane
on YouTube and it just was everywhere, and then Mo
ends up finding you or reaching out to you, and
soon based off of that, Yeah, I remember coming in
and hearing like, like what was supposed to be some
of your album? Yeah, uh, you're recording here in Burbank
(02:58):
for a little bit for a minute, and so like
was it was it just like a difference of like
the approach of you as an artist where you wanted
to be Like now, it was just like the control
of the situation, Like I wanted to be like a
show touring. I wanted to be doing it like that, right,
And it was more like, well, we think this is
(03:18):
best for you not to and wait for this show
and wait for this I'm well, you know, I want
to be an actual artist. And then it's certain music
you want to put out. I was like, well, we
want to put this music out, but I'm like, well
I like this music, right, And then the music they like,
I don't like it. It's like there's a whole bunch
of like just a bunch of riff rap.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And then like and me not understanding the industry or
the game, and you know, kind of being like, you know,
I ain't gonna taking advantage of because I'm a grown
ass man.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But you know what I mean, Like, I mean, you're
very very like you're I mean, obviously you know from
from where you are to now, Like I feel like
even when I first met you were just happy to be.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
No hell yeah, the game you're here. I was green
as hey, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So what ended up was it was It was that
kind of why we hadn't seen from you in a while.
There was just not a obviously you're there's this you know, uh,
this conflict with the label, no new music's coming out.
And then at a certain point in time, was it
your decision, their decision to try to figure out how.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
To move forward and move on?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
It was it was my decision because I really wanted
to like get away from anything that had to do
with anything that wasn't bringing me happiness, peace or help
me succeed, you know what I mean, Like if I
was as the Clippers fan, come on, listen, Hey, that's
why I'm striving for greatness. We always strive, Okay, but nah,
just back in then them times I was just listening,
you know what I mean, Like when you first met me,
(04:33):
like you said, I was green, like go here more,
do this, and I'm just like okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But then when it gets to the business, I'm like, okay,
well I want to figure out how to how to
do this. Well, just relax and make the music. We'll
figure it out. Like now I want to learn more.
And then we start learning more. I realized that was
wrong and what's not happening? And what should be done
differently and what's kind of sketchy and you're like, okay, look,
I ain't fucking with this, right, That's kind of what happened.
It was you and Waco Tron, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
It was a couple niggas on a label. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I mean for you, man, I mean and then I
forget You're also on the Cold album.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
That's that's what was great. That was crazy was the
type of say I bet for you? Like was it? Was? It?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Like ever a little disheartening? Was there ever any like
mental hurdles you had to get through to be like damn,
I gotta kind of not necessarily restart, but when your
momentum is going, you know, it's hard to get that
momentum back.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Uh. I ain't a lot to you. As always in
the back of your mind, like if you're gonna do
as well as your first, you're gonna do as well
as your second. You're like, you know, it's always you're
competing with yourself and plus you compete with everybody else too.
But I love music and I love to write, I
love to record, I love to perform. So this, this
is this is my blood it's in my life, like
I finally got a chance to be here, so and
this is the chance I got to do it independent
and really like push myself the way I want to
(05:46):
push myself. I'm happy to start again. I don't give
a fuck. That's dope. Man. You're with Empire, right? Yeah?
How did that end up happening? To? Shots to Gazima,
the whole team over there, solid my manager, Chase shout
out Chase ages seventy year. He was already like working
with them and talking to them and he kind of
helped me put put the deal together and shot up
my lawyers, Demien too, family, Colin, everybody went crazy and
(06:09):
like really, you know, put more Raid what he needed
to be and got me what I needed, which is
a way to put out music. Yeah, and oh.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And then oh ship yeah, I mean and then now
you're able to do what you want?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right? Come on, now I can make what I'm make
it how I want, you feel me do feats, who
I want? Who I don't want? Was there anybody that
they're like that you ever?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Because I heard so many random songs I've been in
the studio session where people be like, yeah, this is
with Mora and I'd be like, oh, you were on
a lot of random songs and we never heard a
lot of random ass Like I remember I was at
Gez's house and he played me like yeah, like the
hardest song he's played me in forever and it was
with you, and I was like, dang, why is.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This on the album? Like why is this? It was hardest,
but it was fire, it was bro. We was like
we're like three the board and we were just cooler
in the studio, chiller and we just not making a song.
And then that song probably will never be anywhere.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But I was there any of the music that you
started for I guess under pick six that you were
able to keep or take with.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You or and in the situation now that like now
that I'm separate from from everybody, like whatever didn't come
out ain't coming out, even like whatever it didn't need
to come out ain't coming out. And I had like
probably four hundred songs, not a lot to you, but
I had working, bro, not have myself working like I
was out working because I was book the studio time
every goddamn right, I write fourteen fifteen songs and then
(07:32):
I go recorded and I'm in the studio writing, it's
like that's how I moved. But like now it's just
I'm just like I said, I'm happy to have opportunity
to really put the music I want to put out
in the way I want to put it out.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
What's doo too is like you wrote a lot of
that ship, so I wrote I wrote, No Damn, I'm
saying like you write your ship.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So it's like you can fucking recut that ship if
you're like the idea, like yo, but do you give
it a new producer? Nah, I ain't gonna lie. I
the reason I appreciate what I went through because it
helped me get a lot out all the bull shit
music you know, talking about like you know, like when
you're a rapper or you a singer and you're making
those songs you got like three hundred the Vault Nigga
all three hundred hot, So you in there figuring out
the sound, figuring out the vibe. And now I think
(08:09):
I kind of figured out the way I want to,
you know, go with my craft and you know how
I want to paint the pictures.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, it's like, uh, do you feel like you ever
go through demo witis too? Where you have a song
that and you get tired of it, move on. Yeah,
I've seen that ship all the time with artists. They'll
be like, man, I'm like, yo, whatever happened to this song?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Man? We got this new ship. That's how I be
like because I because, like I said, being with this
label and I with them, those songs are old right
to you, you're over them. I'm like, Nigga, I'm a
harder ship than that. So like, I'm ready to put
the harder ship out. But I know sometimes it's a journey,
but that old journey. I'm trying to put you all
onto the hardship.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So the new album is a long story short, Yes, sir,
why that? Well, it's it's a mix shape you feel
me like, it's not even an album, mixtape album. You
know who knows these days see me the new body
of work.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That your facts. But it's important to me to set
up my situation the way it's being set up. The
mixtape is leading to an album, because before I can
give you an album, you gotta know where I've been.
And I don't think I think I can say a
lot more for for where I've been, at where I'm going,
and where I want to be in an album, but
I gotta tell you why I've been in the mixtape
so you can understand. Okay, we're about to go in
(09:17):
the long journey, but long story short. Before we get there,
this is what happened, right type shit?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, nah, I think and this is your
because you would only put an EPR right now. I
put a mixtapeut for you. Put a mixt shonka streets.
How many songs was it?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I want to say, like twelve or fourteen songs?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Okay? Yeah? Is it for any features on the nah?
Just like Street Sermons, Like it's there's there's no features,
Like what Street Sermons came together?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Again, like I didn't have a lot of hands as
far as like what songs got picked and like how
many songs it was? I just roll the music this one.
I feel like I really have my hands on it
and was able to really tell a full blown story
from top to bottom and chronological order the way I
want to how I want you sequence the track me
by myself and I'm sitting there listening to that shit
like this is the way it got to come out
this way? Like you know, and I would say, besides
(10:03):
one song that that got switched, you know shot the
people that helped me put that one song were needed
to go. But like, it's just I really was able
to really get in there and make that shit make
sense for you? Was was it like? Were?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Because I feel like you have fans that were probably
just asking you, like, what the fuck's going on when
new music coming.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Out with bro? Like and that's that's why I really
want to do the mixtape first, to really like, you know,
let the people that already fuck with me know, like, bro,
this is what's going on, right, and the ones that
don't fuck with me will here shit that they never
heard from. More. We're like, okay, more this is difficult
to sound and I'm rocking with this right right right now.
I want to get the new but also, you know,
telling people that that's been here, like, yo, you got
something to talk about. You can say, oh, more more,
(10:40):
he dropped this, more dropped that, because that's been my
big thing, like people fucking me. But they can't be like,
oh he's just dropped or he just.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
And now I want to give him that right For you,
what is something that you learned from the J Cole
tour and obviously working with Cole Like that tour was
a big, big boy tour.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Man that crazy tour.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
He had the whole like NBA shit, going on thirty
something thousands, like we want to award for like the
most packed out like stadium. It was insane, but it
was crazy. But nah, I learned a lot, Like I learned.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
How to really take my craft more serious. I think
before going on a tour, I did like two shows,
and I didn't really know how to like breath control.
I used MP three tracks. I didn't really know what
you were like singing over your tracks, yeah, type shit.
But like now being on to with Cold, like now
there is none of that, Like I might have a
TV track and maybe catch like a last right of course,
but I'm three. You could take a breath, you feel me,
And that's that's all I need because I feel like
(11:32):
if you're paying tickets to see me, like I'm about
to sing for real, like I'm trying to go horse
for y'all then because y'all just got me a new
cyber trick or some shit like type shit, you got
to look out for the mother for that look out
for you. Like, so I just really appreciate the people
that listen to my music. So I learned from him
to how to really sing for them niggas, give give
me a show. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
For you being where you're from, being rere clods from
obviously you guys connecting.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I felt like it was inevitable.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
When you did, Uh my life, ship, were how hip
were you to the G version with Pharaoh Munch?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And I was not hit at all? I wasn't you
weren't hit nah, he said on the hook my mom.
I figured, oh, m right, one right, So I was
all right cool, but he was I got one in
mind for you, and he was like, you know type
ship sent me to the how it sounded and if
I can do it, and he let me play around
with the arrangement a little bit and kind of singing
in my tone and my rack yeah, which I was like, Yo,
(12:21):
this sh it is fired. I appreciate. And then I
heard the real song, like oh, this ship is hard regardless,
like hard, it's hard regardless. That had to be a
big deal, man, It was. It was bro That phone
call was amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, was it something that like you had you thought
that was like coming that you had an idea might happen?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Hellna, he called me. It was like a like a
Thursday or something like just some regular some regular bunk
hug like just chilling the crib smoking, probably just chilling
with my my hommies. Get a phone call like, hey, bro,
I got a song, want you get on you want
to do the hook? If if I want to do
the hook? Nigga? Hell yeah, I'm like, nigga, what I'm
pulling up? Immediately, Bro, I had to like that was
(12:57):
one of the one of the dopest phone calls you
can get, like somebody that you look up to or
you you fuck with and they say they need something
from you for sure?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Is there is there anything you would because you kind
of have went through a lot in the music industry
in a few years, right, Is there any any advice
you would give any up and coming artists that are
in uh obviously in a situation where they're trying to
trying to you know, maybe they got a little moment
and maybe they got a little motion and people start calling.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
What advice would you give the core fan base? I
think I think I didn't learn under that until afterwards,
like after I've been in there to realize, Okay, if
you have a core you know, cater to your core.
Your core will make you bigger than what you are
because your core gonna spread the good news. You know,
I'm talking about like small room shows, even it's one
hundred and fifty people, seventy five people, three hundred people,
whatever it is, Bust them shows out, get your name
(13:44):
up there advertisement, put money behind yourself. Don't wait on
nobody else to do nothing for you, because if you're
waiting on a nigga to help you get to where
you got to go, you're never going to fucking get
there like ever. Put it behind yourself and just just
just go for that shit.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Like you said, It's like I feel like artists sometimes
when they get on her they start popping. It's like, Yo,
stop like you stopping doing what guy?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You here? Yeah? For sure to start overthinking this shit,
bro so much, so much over that I wanted to
do it the way I said it because that's what
Cold told me in the beginning, before we even toured
for anything. He was like, Yo, you need to be
doing small rooms. Yeah, And that's why another disconnection like
niggas wasn't try to let me.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Do its like a two three hundred cap rooms and
bro do chie for example, she just hit that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
She just did that.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
And even in Tampa, her hometown, she did on her tour,
she could have did probably ten thousand tickets for sure.
She did the crowbar, which was like two hundred yeah,
three hundred peop yeah no, no, not three hundred, like
two hundred. It's like and I was like, damn, she
gets it because like whenever he spins the block for real, Yes,
she's gonna get a basketball arena.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know what I'm saying, Like that is the goal. Yeah,
if you look at I want to say the Russell, Yes, bro,
the way he do, he should too, like the show
that he do. And he I sent a video him
saying he do like her. He charges for rehearsal. He
has tickets in backyard and charge a rehearsal like you
talk the nigga to see the rehearsal. Like this is
how you need to move get people involved into the
(15:06):
whole craft. Yeah, so they feel like they're part of it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Now the rust lie in his crib man, he's got
the he's got the pergola outside. He'd be doing the
shows there and then and then the new ship he'd
be doing is like it's not even new now, but shit,
he's been doing for a minute now. He tells fans
if he's got a show, pay what you want. So
you got you got to buy tickets directly from him,
and you have to put a bid in for a
ticket and then he'll accept it or not accept it.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I might need to hit Bull up talk to you.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
It's like some some tickets you might sell for ten,
some tickets you mightself for five hundred.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Depends on who you might want to come and support
what you got going on.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He does the same ship with the merch too, Like
if you on his site, you can pay what you
want for a t shirt.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, but he's a smart brother. I ain't gonna lie
to the way he moved. Like now only is he
making the music that he wanted to make, and he's
making music that's comforing for him. Brother's making money, So
that's good. What do you how do you think?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I mean, obviously you got a couple of records, a
few records out Breakthrough just dropped last week. What how
would you say? Sonically this mixtape is sounding to.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Me, it's it's it's more focused on it's more singing.
It's more it's more melodic, you know what I mean.
I think after Quick saying I became like more RAPPI
I was because I love hip hop and like people
love more ray because more records sing even so I
want to give them more but also not losing me.
(16:29):
So this is pretty much based on more like melodies
and more like harmonies and more like stacks with different
vocals and really focused on emotional side of what I've
been gonna do right, So for you, is it like
because did Quick single platinum? Yes, that hit the plat
(16:52):
they double I got two of them, mother fucking now.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So it's and then obviously the correcord still growing, it's
going great. Now that's gonna end up double planting for
sure over time, even.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
If it happens in a year, three years, I need it.
I don't even give gram nominally because of that record too.
So another shout out to Code for like putting a
nick on.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I've been noticing like kind of like there's like a
theme with with like some of the imagery even put
now in terms of like you know, is it is
this kind of like your metaphorical say like hey I'm
free now, like pretty had out the home. You know,
you're you're in jail, and then you got breakthrough essentially like, hey,
I've been kind of locked up. Now I could, I
(17:29):
could get my ship off how I want to get
it off.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Pretty much, that's prober what the table is pretty much about,
like being you know, shelved, being in the box, being
you know, not able to be as free and be
as me as I want to be. Right Like you know,
everybody who know me for real or who's seen me,
you know I'm a character. I feel I got hell
energy for sure, and I want to put that in
my video. I want to put that in my music.
I want to put that on my shoulders. And like
I said, like I have a for free reign to
(17:52):
just do it now. It's not all you gotta do
it like this, So you gotta let me do me
because that's what got me here. Yes, I had a
hell of help right me got me here? For sure?
Was it was there? Every like? Was it hard to
kind of?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Because I'm sure you went through this process where you realize,
like some of the folks you had met throughout the
rap game or throughout the music game were really your friends. Yeah,
they were just fucking with you because it was not
for sure, like I'm sure, like did you, like, did
you always know that or did it when when when
you had kind of gone through whatever you went through
with the label and things kind of cool down, did
you notice like, oh, mytherfucker's this is the fakest shit ever.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Bro. I'm not gonna lie too, Like I said, I
was real green, bro. Yeah, when I came to you
were in with a lot of big art. I was
in with that with everybody. Yeah, br I then rubbed hands,
fucking shook hands, smoked the blunt talk to got a
song with mostly a lot of niggas. But you realize
at the end of the day when when when you're
not the hot, hot commodity, the love goes away and
it's not it shouldn't be nothing personally, it's business. But
(18:48):
you realize this is my business friend, not mine. It
sounds like if you work with somebody at work, yeah,
don't spect them to be like cool to it's weird,
like we work together and yeah we gonna we gonna
line or we're gonna costume like all you fucking money
here because you were doing hooks for motherfuckers too, like
you was like type ship you know, you know, not
so much as.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Even if they didn't come out, But I'm saying you
was was hitting.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You for hook ty type shah for sure?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
What because you also were in the studio a lot
with Marshmallow, And I feel like we don't know a
lot about his creative process and obviously I know it
didn't work out for the long term.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Back what's it?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
What's it like being in the lab with him?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I never I never was in the lab, but he
cooked up you know, but he played me covered beats.
You know, we did a couple of sauce on his beats.
But he's a talented brother.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Bullshit, are you putting together any any sort of Are
you going to do a tour?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That's the plan for sure, Like I said, whatever way,
I have to do it. But there's big room, small rooms,
whatever it is. I love to perform and I just
want to culture curate a show that can like really
touch people that come see it. They want want them
to appreciate what they can to see, not just like Okay,
I could have listened this ship on items or Spotify. Right,
I feel like got do a dope home. I'm in chill.
I want you so bad. I do tell you, Brod,
(20:03):
we went to the city's so bad for sure. What's
what's the temperature like back home? Uh? It's cold to
s heal. I mean like, I don't mean the temperature.
It's cold. I know it's cold. I thought I think
of it like that. I mean, like you know what
I'm saying, like like, uh, you know, just like obviously
you're out here in La now, like are you are?
Are you going back home? A lot of you? I
don't go back home a lot because again, like when
when you're on this independent, independent ground you got you
(20:25):
gotta go. You mean a lot a lot of this
just me, you know, in meetings and being here and
being there and being elsewhere other than where I want
to baby for me. So I don't be there a lot,
But hopefully this tour that I'm trying to put together
gets me there enough to really show appreciation for where
I'm from what I claim, and show love to the
people that really show me love in the beginning for sure.
For sure. Yeah, you also seems like you lost some
(20:48):
pretty good amount of weight. No, I ain't gonna lie
be doing a little stun fun you hear me? A
little boxing, and and then I mean, how much have
you lost? No cap and all full transparency. I think
when I lost my way with myself, I was three
sixty and now I'm like two eighty five. Dude, that's great, Nah,
it's decent. I ain't gonna lie if I say from the.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Quick Sand video where you were like the fucking had
you had the sweat rag with Trophy.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Everybody was I had to have her. The rag wasn't
just the I needed that, bitch, it was you feel me.
I was sweating like motherfuck. I got you were good man,
you're doing boxing, You're eating better. Hell, you'm eating better.
Uh my girl, you know she had me understand that.
You know, maybe the pork and beef ain't the best
of me. So I want to say, I'm a poloitarian.
Are you chicken and the peggetarian pescatarian Righttaria? Yeah, yeah,
(21:30):
facts fat pescatarian. So no pork, no pork, no beat,
no pork on the fork. But the swine is divine. Nah. Nah,
if it ain't on the line, I camet down.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I got you see you like turkey bacon, Fuck with
turkey bacon, bro, no bullshit. But you fuck with it
more than baby broke the way the way I make it.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I funk with him telling you, look, Nosh, I'm gonna
tell you how to fuck with it more to regular bacon.
I appreciate you like lying everybody. Right now, I'm gonna
tell you like bacon by itself is bacon. Don't get
me wrong. Okay, you gotta be we gotta be clear.
Bacon is bacon. You don't need ship for bacon. Yeah,
that bitch in the microwave. No, you can microwave for
a bacon. What the fuck? Yes, you've never done that.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You can microwave bacon unless it's the fully cooked already ready. Well,
maybe that's the bacon I'm thinking of. But if it
comes out there packing it's pink. Okay, maybe not that bacon,
but there's bacon you can mic.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Away it's fully cooked. Back awave with bacon, Okay, put
it in. I think like the one you put it
in the paper towel. I mean, yeah, the one that's
like a Yeah, I'm just talking about after you're talking
about the real bait. You got the turkey bacon on
turkey bacon. I'm telling you, all you need is salt.
And sea, salt, pepper, cinnamon, some honey. After it cooks down,
push it on top, flipping on both sides. It's called
like a million dollar bacon. Bro. This shit is busting.
(22:41):
It tastes way better than bacon without nothing on it.
How long have you been pescatarian? Like? Three years? Three years?
Three full years. I got introduced to it four years ago,
but I ain't really commit to like three years. Have
they converted you to like a sushi eater out here?
And now Bra'm a sushi connoisseur. Bro? Were you always
(23:02):
that way though? Nah?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Because I can't. I can't imagine in the Carolina don't
have great sushi. So I came here.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
They had had a meeting one day with with some
some team I can't think of now, but they had
a team and they was like, Yo, we're gonna have
a sushi bar. And I was like, you know, fucking
the raw fish, like nigga, that sounds gross. Try that
bitch up, Like this is weird, But I tasted it.
I was like, Oh, this is crazy and it's it's bustling.
But sushi is the vibe for sure. I love sushi.
I love sushi, Bro.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
How's everything because I know you're a father too. Yeah,
how's everything with with the kids?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Man? Kids are great, kids are growing and I talk
to them on every day on FaceTime. You know, make
sure they straight, you know, I send them my video
before they come out sending the music, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
They ever try to get you to like like like
do songs with people, Like, hey, dad, this this person's cracking.
You should do a song with this person.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
They do, but the people that they listen to ain't
it album. I'm not like, how would that sound? Because
my kids music choices is it's a wide wide range
of music. It's not like they don't listen to like
my music. This is like ship that I wouldn't be on,
(24:07):
Like what like Okay, I don't even know half the names.
But my son went to a concert of someone that
I don't know, but he was like, you would do
great on a song with her. I'm like, that's fire.
I look her up and I'm like, brother, you have
no ear for music. That's the way you think your
daddy was all good with shorty text you red, No,
(24:30):
that's different. Sexy, she hot, but she trapped. That's like
my vibe. Like I don't even know the girl name.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
He told me the bullshit not TikTok man. Yeah, taking over, bro,
taking over. Yeah, it's crazy too because now on TikTok
you have a record as old as fuck. Like, what's
the song? Oh, there's a Fetti Wap song again. Okay,
that's from twenty fourteen that just cracked the top forty
on Billboards Top one hundred.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
The song again by Feti You Didn't be Mine again? Baby? Bro?
That shit? That what Listen? There's a TikTok challenge.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, and songs nine years old, ten years old, and
it's number thirty six on Billboard.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Tip one hundred. That song is hard. No, it's a classic.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I'm gonna keep the fact that just got a whole
new life because the little niggas are playing it now.
Because I'm telling you, if you play that song in
any generation, that shit is just as hard. Fetti Wap,
where he had.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
The Gamey's twelve month run is insane.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Are here? He's like, yeah, like, oh it's up now
it's over.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
It's funny because I saw him open up for Chris
Brown on tour. It was Chris Brown him Migo's kidding
And when I tell you a store insane French Montana too.
People weren't calling for Chris Brown tickets. They were calling
for Fedi Bro. They were like, yoyo, we want to
see fetty wap.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, but Chris Brown's going it's his store and now
we want to see Fetti wip Bro. Fetti like that. Bro,
I'm trying to tell you, Bro, he had it. Oh
my fetti had like the gangster niggas ready to sing
for real? Yeah? No, what going crazy? For sure?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Is there anybody who because I feel like there's been
like a lot of the guys who have kind of
come up in the last couple of years since you
popped off that are kind of doing like some dope
melodic ship. Is there anybody who you're you're you're checking for,
anybody you're listening to that you want to work with?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Maybe now you know who? Uh came across my timeline.
I was like, brovoic bro voice voice is like super
like unique and I fucked the way like the way
he and ship the plug big Actually, Bro, I fucked Bro.
Want to get niggasi like? I like the way he
like the accent that crazy voice. Bro, I'm not gonna cut.
(26:38):
I really fuck with the way Bro really attacked the beat.
You know, I mean him it's crazy because it's like
I'm just she was a fat niggas Like no, like
it's fine. Dave blunts too, like Bro, I just fuck
with his sound, Like Bro, I just fuck with the
niggas sound. His lyrics are hilarious.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Bro, you saying the most out of pocket Jali a
little bit bro Temy l j Yes, but this.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Guy, fucking this guy is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
He'd be saying, I remember talking like you like saying
that hard r a lot. He's like, I just be
talking those songs. So I talk to my friends. I'm like,
all your friends look white in the room.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I'm gonna kid with a band.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I don't know about when he said when he said,
he said some like he got this one song. I
like his project because it's funny that ship. I was like, Bro,
you got the first project I listened to that. She
had me laughing out loud.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm like, that's crazy. This is my fuckers. They blunt.
I gotta I gotta hear more than because he's got
to get his from what I heard. I was like, oh,
this is nice, but what you're saying, is like, I
need to listen to a little his wild boy to
get like a little Oh he's okay, I'm gonna listen
to a little more.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
You might know he's got the song that can't put
down the cup, which people know you can't put down
the cup.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Can't put down the cup? Sip it brough maths.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
How to get him to be a Pescotanian. Bro, you
gotta put him on him on that giant man. Now
he can eat what you want to eat. Just you know,
stand up every now and again. That's all I dude, bro,
nice guy, that's all.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
This is super nice. He seemed like he came on
the podcast super sweet. Dug man. She's he's like he
want him to be around for sure. He's very genuine.
Need to get your girl to be his dietician. Hey,
she she she could, she could, she could get right?
You got right? She got me right? And box a
little bit and do some box. So boxing is is
the work. That's my viob.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
How many days a week you do it? No cap?
I try to do it every day besides Sunday. If
it's at the crib, it's at the crib. I got
I got to punch your bag. I gotta speedbag. I
got a dummy, I got everything I need. So she
being there up? Yess yeah type ship all right?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
So the album comes out the twenty first, which is next, No,
next Friday.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, next, bro. I'm so hype for this fucking project.
Like I said, like I put it together myself, and
like it's so like Bro, it's it's so life training
to really still be doing something that I love so
like and I always like to put track lists together.
So I finally get to put my own. Bro, I'm like, hell, yeah,
we outside that man? What was it like? Uh? How
(29:01):
much have you had a lot of time with with Ghazi?
Face to face? No? Not a lot of fact, not
a lot. I met him, of course talk to him,
but like not a lot of face to face. Who's
your p m over there? Who your project manager? Oh?
I used to work in Empires.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Oh okay, yeah yeah, I said, I said them nighttime.
Now you're in good hands man, Empires the ship. No,
I'm gonna lie Empires really really smooth.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah. I want to hear you and your boozie do
some ship. Bro. No, I got some for as if
he funcked me. No, boys, you and your boozy would
go crazy, would be And I'm trying to tell you
and now you are label mates. Bro Boozy fuck with
a country niggas to here you talking and you and
Jelly Roll Bro not. I hate to go to the
fact that no but Jelly crazy though I ain't gonna
lie to like bro no bullshit. I got I got
(29:48):
a couple of Jelly roll saws on my own my ship.
He got a song called talk to God and Liar,
Oh yeah, liars amazing motherucker. Bro, I got work. I'm
broking out. I got to bump them bitches you energy
winning streaks my ship. That's hard, that's hard to for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Well, listen, man, the album's dropping or mixtape long story
short and then album following Yes sir uh on next Friday,
on the twenty first, go running up, got thing goes
out right now?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Music videos coming up?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Sure? Anything else going on? Not just please pre saved.
It is time for more ready to give himself a
full shot. And people that fuck with me keep fucking
with me. If you don't fuck with me, you about
to fuck with me. Pre save the album.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Pre save that motherfucker please there it is my guy
I appreciate you, right sir Moray Fire
What's up with shit boy? More Ray? You know the vibe.
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
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Speaker 4 (00:56):
Man, we got a special guest in hear my Dog.
I ain't seen him in a minute, but he is back.
More Ray, sir, Yo, it's raining like crazy in l A.
If you can see he's he's soaked.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I'm soaked. You can't see it as much on me.
Straight out the rain, okay, straight off the ring.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Real.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What's good though?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Man?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
It's crazy, man, because I feel like I want I mean, obviously,
I know, I know you've talked about it a bit,
but I want to kind of break down what's been
going on the last couple of years because you have
so much momentum. Uh your ep was Crazy quicksand was
going up. I mean, you opened up for J Cole
and I just felt like you really stole the show
on that tour, man, Like, if you got there early,
you gave them a show.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I had had to compete with twenty one and J.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah, man, I got I got to go to to
the to the l A show, and I was like,
shout to epic because at the time you were epic.
I think, right, okay, okay, somebody gave me the tickets,
but uh, yeah man. And then I feel like the
last couple of years you'd kind of been a little
bit out the way.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
What what is? What is? I mean? Uh, you know
you were signed with south Side and MO and that
that went sour. I'm assuming you mean, yeah, I was
with Pick six emotional. I wasn't sounding south, but I
know he has he's something to do with So pick
six is is motional easy? Okay? Yeah, so but I right, right, right, okay, Yeah,
(02:14):
I saw emotional leazy, and then you know, differences happened.
You know, we all think differently. We have different emotions
about the music, we have different ways of how you
want to push, we have different things we want to
speak about, and you know, sometimes business get involved too,
and then personal films can involve too, like you know,
if you know the story, you know, like he he
helped me get there for me, so the emotions get involved,
is yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Because essentially you had gone viral with quicksand Yeah, which
was an absolute organic smn not that just went insane
on YouTube and it just was everywhere, and then Mo
ends up finding you or reaching out to you, and
soon based off of that, Yeah, I remember coming in
and hearing like, like what was supposed to be some
of your album? Yeah, uh, you're recording here in Burbank
(02:58):
for a little bit for a minute, and so like
was it was it just like a difference of like
the approach of you as an artist where you wanted
to be Like now, it was just like the control
of the situation, Like I wanted to be like a
show touring. I wanted to be doing it like that, right,
And it was more like, well, we think this is
(03:18):
best for you not to and wait for this show
and wait for this I'm well, you know, I want
to be an actual artist. And then it's certain music
you want to put out. I was like, well, we
want to put this music out, but I'm like, well
I like this music, right, And then the music they like,
I don't like it. It's like there's a whole bunch
of like just a bunch of riff rap.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And then like and me not understanding the industry or
the game, and you know, kind of being like, you know,
I ain't gonna taking advantage of because I'm a grown
ass man.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But you know what I mean, Like, I mean, you're
very very like you're I mean, obviously you know from
from where you are to now, Like I feel like
even when I first met you were just happy to be.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
No hell yeah, the game you're here. I was green
as hey, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So what ended up was it was It was that
kind of why we hadn't seen from you in a while.
There was just not a obviously you're there's this you know, uh,
this conflict with the label, no new music's coming out.
And then at a certain point in time, was it
your decision, their decision to try to figure out how.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
To move forward and move on?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
It was it was my decision because I really wanted
to like get away from anything that had to do
with anything that wasn't bringing me happiness, peace or help
me succeed, you know what I mean, Like if I
was as the Clippers fan, come on, listen, Hey, that's
why I'm striving for greatness. We always strive, Okay, but nah,
just back in then them times I was just listening,
you know what I mean, Like when you first met me,
(04:33):
like you said, I was green, like go here more,
do this, and I'm just like okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But then when it gets to the business, I'm like, okay,
well I want to figure out how to how to
do this. Well, just relax and make the music. We'll
figure it out. Like now I want to learn more.
And then we start learning more. I realized that was
wrong and what's not happening? And what should be done
differently and what's kind of sketchy and you're like, okay, look,
I ain't fucking with this, right, That's kind of what happened.
It was you and Waco Tron, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
It was a couple niggas on a label. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I mean for you, man, I mean and then I
forget You're also on the Cold album.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
That's that's what was great. That was crazy was the
type of say I bet for you? Like was it? Was? It?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Like ever a little disheartening? Was there ever any like
mental hurdles you had to get through to be like damn,
I gotta kind of not necessarily restart, but when your
momentum is going, you know, it's hard to get that
momentum back.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Uh. I ain't a lot to you. As always in
the back of your mind, like if you're gonna do
as well as your first, you're gonna do as well
as your second. You're like, you know, it's always you're
competing with yourself and plus you compete with everybody else too.
But I love music and I love to write, I
love to record, I love to perform. So this, this
is this is my blood it's in my life, like
I finally got a chance to be here, so and
this is the chance I got to do it independent
and really like push myself the way I want to
(05:46):
push myself. I'm happy to start again. I don't give
a fuck. That's dope. Man. You're with Empire, right? Yeah?
How did that end up happening? To? Shots to Gazima,
the whole team over there, solid my manager, Chase shout
out Chase ages seventy year. He was already like working
with them and talking to them and he kind of
helped me put put the deal together and shot up
my lawyers, Demien too, family, Colin, everybody went crazy and
(06:09):
like really, you know, put more Raid what he needed
to be and got me what I needed, which is
a way to put out music. Yeah, and oh.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And then oh ship yeah, I mean and then now
you're able to do what you want?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right? Come on, now I can make what I'm make
it how I want, you feel me do feats, who
I want? Who I don't want? Was there anybody that
they're like that you ever?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Because I heard so many random songs I've been in
the studio session where people be like, yeah, this is
with Mora and I'd be like, oh, you were on
a lot of random songs and we never heard a
lot of random ass Like I remember I was at
Gez's house and he played me like yeah, like the
hardest song he's played me in forever and it was
with you, and I was like, dang, why is.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This on the album? Like why is this? It was hardest,
but it was fire, it was bro. We was like
we're like three the board and we were just cooler
in the studio, chiller and we just not making a song.
And then that song probably will never be anywhere.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But I was there any of the music that you
started for I guess under pick six that you were
able to keep or take with.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You or and in the situation now that like now
that I'm separate from from everybody, like whatever didn't come
out ain't coming out, even like whatever it didn't need
to come out ain't coming out. And I had like
probably four hundred songs, not a lot to you, but
I had working, bro, not have myself working like I
was out working because I was book the studio time
every goddamn right, I write fourteen fifteen songs and then
(07:32):
I go recorded and I'm in the studio writing, it's
like that's how I moved. But like now it's just
I'm just like I said, I'm happy to have opportunity
to really put the music I want to put out
in the way I want to put it out.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
What's doo too is like you wrote a lot of
that ship, so I wrote I wrote, No Damn, I'm
saying like you write your ship.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So it's like you can fucking recut that ship if
you're like the idea, like yo, but do you give
it a new producer? Nah, I ain't gonna lie. I
the reason I appreciate what I went through because it
helped me get a lot out all the bull shit
music you know, talking about like you know, like when
you're a rapper or you a singer and you're making
those songs you got like three hundred the Vault Nigga
all three hundred hot, So you in there figuring out
the sound, figuring out the vibe. And now I think
(08:09):
I kind of figured out the way I want to,
you know, go with my craft and you know how
I want to paint the pictures.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, it's like, uh, do you feel like you ever
go through demo witis too? Where you have a song
that and you get tired of it, move on. Yeah,
I've seen that ship all the time with artists. They'll
be like, man, I'm like, yo, whatever happened to this song?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Man? We got this new ship. That's how I be
like because I because, like I said, being with this
label and I with them, those songs are old right
to you, you're over them. I'm like, Nigga, I'm a
harder ship than that. So like, I'm ready to put
the harder ship out. But I know sometimes it's a journey,
but that old journey. I'm trying to put you all
onto the hardship.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So the new album is a long story short, Yes, sir,
why that? Well, it's it's a mix shape you feel
me like, it's not even an album, mixtape album. You
know who knows these days see me the new body
of work.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That your facts. But it's important to me to set
up my situation the way it's being set up. The
mixtape is leading to an album, because before I can
give you an album, you gotta know where I've been.
And I don't think I think I can say a
lot more for for where I've been, at where I'm going,
and where I want to be in an album, but
I gotta tell you why I've been in the mixtape
so you can understand. Okay, we're about to go in
(09:17):
the long journey, but long story short. Before we get there,
this is what happened, right type shit?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, nah, I think and this is your
because you would only put an EPR right now. I
put a mixtapeut for you. Put a mixt shonka streets.
How many songs was it?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I want to say, like twelve or fourteen songs?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Okay? Yeah? Is it for any features on the nah?
Just like Street Sermons, Like it's there's there's no features,
Like what Street Sermons came together?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Again, like I didn't have a lot of hands as
far as like what songs got picked and like how
many songs it was? I just roll the music this one.
I feel like I really have my hands on it
and was able to really tell a full blown story
from top to bottom and chronological order the way I
want to how I want you sequence the track me
by myself and I'm sitting there listening to that shit
like this is the way it got to come out
this way? Like you know, and I would say, besides
(10:03):
one song that that got switched, you know shot the
people that helped me put that one song were needed
to go. But like, it's just I really was able
to really get in there and make that shit make
sense for you? Was was it like? Were?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Because I feel like you have fans that were probably
just asking you, like, what the fuck's going on when
new music coming.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Out with bro? Like and that's that's why I really
want to do the mixtape first, to really like, you know,
let the people that already fuck with me know, like, bro,
this is what's going on, right, and the ones that
don't fuck with me will here shit that they never
heard from. More. We're like, okay, more this is difficult
to sound and I'm rocking with this right right right now.
I want to get the new but also, you know,
telling people that that's been here, like, yo, you got
something to talk about. You can say, oh, more more,
(10:40):
he dropped this, more dropped that, because that's been my
big thing, like people fucking me. But they can't be like,
oh he's just dropped or he just.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
And now I want to give him that right For you,
what is something that you learned from the J Cole
tour and obviously working with Cole Like that tour was
a big, big boy tour.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Man that crazy tour.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
He had the whole like NBA shit, going on thirty
something thousands, like we want to award for like the
most packed out like stadium. It was insane, but it
was crazy. But nah, I learned a lot, Like I learned.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
How to really take my craft more serious. I think
before going on a tour, I did like two shows,
and I didn't really know how to like breath control.
I used MP three tracks. I didn't really know what
you were like singing over your tracks, yeah, type shit.
But like now being on to with Cold, like now
there is none of that, Like I might have a
TV track and maybe catch like a last right of course,
but I'm three. You could take a breath, you feel me,
And that's that's all I need because I feel like
(11:32):
if you're paying tickets to see me, like I'm about
to sing for real, like I'm trying to go horse
for y'all then because y'all just got me a new
cyber trick or some shit like type shit, you got
to look out for the mother for that look out
for you. Like, so I just really appreciate the people
that listen to my music. So I learned from him
to how to really sing for them niggas, give give
me a show. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
For you being where you're from, being rere clods from
obviously you guys connecting.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I felt like it was inevitable.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
When you did, Uh my life, ship, were how hip
were you to the G version with Pharaoh Munch?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And I was not hit at all? I wasn't you
weren't hit nah, he said on the hook my mom.
I figured, oh, m right, one right, So I was
all right cool, but he was I got one in
mind for you, and he was like, you know type
ship sent me to the how it sounded and if
I can do it, and he let me play around
with the arrangement a little bit and kind of singing
in my tone and my rack yeah, which I was like, Yo,
(12:21):
this sh it is fired. I appreciate. And then I
heard the real song, like oh, this ship is hard regardless,
like hard, it's hard regardless. That had to be a
big deal, man, It was. It was bro That phone
call was amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, was it something that like you had you thought
that was like coming that you had an idea might happen?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Hellna, he called me. It was like a like a
Thursday or something like just some regular some regular bunk
hug like just chilling the crib smoking, probably just chilling
with my my hommies. Get a phone call like, hey, bro,
I got a song, want you get on you want
to do the hook? If if I want to do
the hook? Nigga? Hell yeah, I'm like, nigga, what I'm
pulling up? Immediately, Bro, I had to like that was
(12:57):
one of the one of the dopest phone calls you
can get, like somebody that you look up to or
you you fuck with and they say they need something
from you for sure?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Is there is there anything you would because you kind
of have went through a lot in the music industry
in a few years, right, Is there any any advice
you would give any up and coming artists that are
in uh obviously in a situation where they're trying to
trying to you know, maybe they got a little moment
and maybe they got a little motion and people start calling.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
What advice would you give the core fan base? I
think I think I didn't learn under that until afterwards,
like after I've been in there to realize, Okay, if
you have a core you know, cater to your core.
Your core will make you bigger than what you are
because your core gonna spread the good news. You know,
I'm talking about like small room shows, even it's one
hundred and fifty people, seventy five people, three hundred people,
whatever it is, Bust them shows out, get your name
(13:44):
up there advertisement, put money behind yourself. Don't wait on
nobody else to do nothing for you, because if you're
waiting on a nigga to help you get to where
you got to go, you're never going to fucking get
there like ever. Put it behind yourself and just just
just go for that shit.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Like you said, It's like I feel like artists sometimes
when they get on her they start popping. It's like, Yo,
stop like you stopping doing what guy?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You here? Yeah? For sure to start overthinking this shit,
bro so much, so much over that I wanted to
do it the way I said it because that's what
Cold told me in the beginning, before we even toured
for anything. He was like, Yo, you need to be
doing small rooms. Yeah, And that's why another disconnection like
niggas wasn't try to let me.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Do its like a two three hundred cap rooms and
bro do chie for example, she just hit that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
She just did that.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
And even in Tampa, her hometown, she did on her tour,
she could have did probably ten thousand tickets for sure.
She did the crowbar, which was like two hundred yeah,
three hundred peop yeah no, no, not three hundred, like
two hundred. It's like and I was like, damn, she
gets it because like whenever he spins the block for real, Yes,
she's gonna get a basketball arena.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know what I'm saying, Like that is the goal. Yeah,
if you look at I want to say the Russell, Yes, bro,
the way he do, he should too, like the show
that he do. And he I sent a video him
saying he do like her. He charges for rehearsal. He
has tickets in backyard and charge a rehearsal like you
talk the nigga to see the rehearsal. Like this is
how you need to move get people involved into the
(15:06):
whole craft. Yeah, so they feel like they're part of it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Now the rust lie in his crib man, he's got
the he's got the pergola outside. He'd be doing the
shows there and then and then the new ship he'd
be doing is like it's not even new now, but shit,
he's been doing for a minute now. He tells fans
if he's got a show, pay what you want. So
you got you got to buy tickets directly from him,
and you have to put a bid in for a
ticket and then he'll accept it or not accept it.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I might need to hit Bull up talk to you.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
It's like some some tickets you might sell for ten,
some tickets you mightself for five hundred.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Depends on who you might want to come and support
what you got going on.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He does the same ship with the merch too, Like
if you on his site, you can pay what you
want for a t shirt.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, but he's a smart brother. I ain't gonna lie
to the way he moved. Like now only is he
making the music that he wanted to make, and he's
making music that's comforing for him. Brother's making money, So
that's good. What do you how do you think?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I mean, obviously you got a couple of records, a
few records out Breakthrough just dropped last week. What how
would you say? Sonically this mixtape is sounding to.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Me, it's it's it's more focused on it's more singing.
It's more it's more melodic, you know what I mean.
I think after Quick saying I became like more RAPPI
I was because I love hip hop and like people
love more ray because more records sing even so I
want to give them more but also not losing me.
(16:29):
So this is pretty much based on more like melodies
and more like harmonies and more like stacks with different
vocals and really focused on emotional side of what I've
been gonna do right, So for you, is it like
because did Quick single platinum? Yes, that hit the plat
(16:52):
they double I got two of them, mother fucking now.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So it's and then obviously the correcord still growing, it's
going great. Now that's gonna end up double planting for
sure over time, even.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
If it happens in a year, three years, I need it.
I don't even give gram nominally because of that record too.
So another shout out to Code for like putting a
nick on.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I've been noticing like kind of like there's like a
theme with with like some of the imagery even put
now in terms of like you know, is it is
this kind of like your metaphorical say like hey I'm
free now, like pretty had out the home. You know,
you're you're in jail, and then you got breakthrough essentially like, hey,
I've been kind of locked up. Now I could, I
(17:29):
could get my ship off how I want to get
it off.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Pretty much, that's prober what the table is pretty much about,
like being you know, shelved, being in the box, being
you know, not able to be as free and be
as me as I want to be. Right Like you know,
everybody who know me for real or who's seen me,
you know I'm a character. I feel I got hell
energy for sure, and I want to put that in
my video. I want to put that in my music.
I want to put that on my shoulders. And like
I said, like I have a for free reign to
(17:52):
just do it now. It's not all you gotta do
it like this, So you gotta let me do me
because that's what got me here. Yes, I had a
hell of help right me got me here? For sure?
Was it was there? Every like? Was it hard to
kind of?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Because I'm sure you went through this process where you realize,
like some of the folks you had met throughout the
rap game or throughout the music game were really your friends. Yeah,
they were just fucking with you because it was not
for sure, like I'm sure, like did you, like, did
you always know that or did it when when when
you had kind of gone through whatever you went through
with the label and things kind of cool down, did
you notice like, oh, mytherfucker's this is the fakest shit ever.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Bro. I'm not gonna lie too, Like I said, I
was real green, bro. Yeah, when I came to you
were in with a lot of big art. I was
in with that with everybody. Yeah, br I then rubbed hands,
fucking shook hands, smoked the blunt talk to got a
song with mostly a lot of niggas. But you realize
at the end of the day when when when you're
not the hot, hot commodity, the love goes away and
it's not it shouldn't be nothing personally, it's business. But
(18:48):
you realize this is my business friend, not mine. It
sounds like if you work with somebody at work, yeah,
don't spect them to be like cool to it's weird,
like we work together and yeah we gonna we gonna
line or we're gonna costume like all you fucking money
here because you were doing hooks for motherfuckers too, like
you was like type ship you know, you know, not
so much as.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Even if they didn't come out, But I'm saying you
was was hitting.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You for hook ty type shah for sure?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
What because you also were in the studio a lot
with Marshmallow, And I feel like we don't know a
lot about his creative process and obviously I know it
didn't work out for the long term.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Back what's it?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
What's it like being in the lab with him?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I never I never was in the lab, but he
cooked up you know, but he played me covered beats.
You know, we did a couple of sauce on his beats.
But he's a talented brother.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Bullshit, are you putting together any any sort of Are
you going to do a tour?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That's the plan for sure, Like I said, whatever way,
I have to do it. But there's big room, small rooms,
whatever it is. I love to perform and I just
want to culture curate a show that can like really
touch people that come see it. They want want them
to appreciate what they can to see, not just like Okay,
I could have listened this ship on items or Spotify. Right,
I feel like got do a dope home. I'm in chill.
I want you so bad. I do tell you, Brod,
(20:03):
we went to the city's so bad for sure. What's
what's the temperature like back home? Uh? It's cold to
s heal. I mean like, I don't mean the temperature.
It's cold. I know it's cold. I thought I think
of it like that. I mean, like you know what
I'm saying, like like, uh, you know, just like obviously
you're out here in La now, like are you are?
Are you going back home? A lot of you? I
don't go back home a lot because again, like when
when you're on this independent, independent ground you got you
(20:25):
gotta go. You mean a lot a lot of this
just me, you know, in meetings and being here and
being there and being elsewhere other than where I want
to baby for me. So I don't be there a lot,
But hopefully this tour that I'm trying to put together
gets me there enough to really show appreciation for where
I'm from what I claim, and show love to the
people that really show me love in the beginning for sure.
For sure. Yeah, you also seems like you lost some
(20:48):
pretty good amount of weight. No, I ain't gonna lie
be doing a little stun fun you hear me? A
little boxing, and and then I mean, how much have
you lost? No cap and all full transparency. I think
when I lost my way with myself, I was three
sixty and now I'm like two eighty five. Dude, that's great, Nah,
it's decent. I ain't gonna lie if I say from the.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Quick Sand video where you were like the fucking had
you had the sweat rag with Trophy.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Everybody was I had to have her. The rag wasn't
just the I needed that, bitch, it was you feel me.
I was sweating like motherfuck. I got you were good man,
you're doing boxing, You're eating better. Hell, you'm eating better.
Uh my girl, you know she had me understand that.
You know, maybe the pork and beef ain't the best
of me. So I want to say, I'm a poloitarian.
Are you chicken and the peggetarian pescatarian Righttaria? Yeah, yeah,
(21:30):
facts fat pescatarian. So no pork, no pork, no beat,
no pork on the fork. But the swine is divine. Nah. Nah,
if it ain't on the line, I camet down.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I got you see you like turkey bacon, Fuck with
turkey bacon, bro, no bullshit. But you fuck with it
more than baby broke the way the way I make it.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I funk with him telling you, look, Nosh, I'm gonna
tell you how to fuck with it more to regular bacon.
I appreciate you like lying everybody. Right now, I'm gonna
tell you like bacon by itself is bacon. Don't get
me wrong. Okay, you gotta be we gotta be clear.
Bacon is bacon. You don't need ship for bacon. Yeah,
that bitch in the microwave. No, you can microwave for
a bacon. What the fuck? Yes, you've never done that.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You can microwave bacon unless it's the fully cooked already ready. Well,
maybe that's the bacon I'm thinking of. But if it
comes out there packing it's pink. Okay, maybe not that bacon,
but there's bacon you can mic.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Away it's fully cooked. Back awave with bacon, Okay, put
it in. I think like the one you put it
in the paper towel. I mean, yeah, the one that's
like a Yeah, I'm just talking about after you're talking
about the real bait. You got the turkey bacon on
turkey bacon. I'm telling you, all you need is salt.
And sea, salt, pepper, cinnamon, some honey. After it cooks down,
push it on top, flipping on both sides. It's called
like a million dollar bacon. Bro. This shit is busting.
(22:41):
It tastes way better than bacon without nothing on it.
How long have you been pescatarian? Like? Three years? Three years?
Three full years. I got introduced to it four years ago,
but I ain't really commit to like three years. Have
they converted you to like a sushi eater out here?
And now Bra'm a sushi connoisseur. Bro? Were you always
(23:02):
that way though? Nah?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Because I can't. I can't imagine in the Carolina don't
have great sushi. So I came here.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
They had had a meeting one day with with some
some team I can't think of now, but they had
a team and they was like, Yo, we're gonna have
a sushi bar. And I was like, you know, fucking
the raw fish, like nigga, that sounds gross. Try that
bitch up, Like this is weird, But I tasted it.
I was like, Oh, this is crazy and it's it's bustling.
But sushi is the vibe for sure. I love sushi.
I love sushi, Bro.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
How's everything because I know you're a father too. Yeah,
how's everything with with the kids?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Man? Kids are great, kids are growing and I talk
to them on every day on FaceTime. You know, make
sure they straight, you know, I send them my video
before they come out sending the music, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
They ever try to get you to like like like
do songs with people, Like, hey, dad, this this person's cracking.
You should do a song with this person.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
They do, but the people that they listen to ain't
it album. I'm not like, how would that sound? Because
my kids music choices is it's a wide wide range
of music. It's not like they don't listen to like
my music. This is like ship that I wouldn't be on,
(24:07):
Like what like Okay, I don't even know half the names.
But my son went to a concert of someone that
I don't know, but he was like, you would do
great on a song with her. I'm like, that's fire.
I look her up and I'm like, brother, you have
no ear for music. That's the way you think your
daddy was all good with shorty text you red, No,
(24:30):
that's different. Sexy, she hot, but she trapped. That's like
my vibe. Like I don't even know the girl name.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
He told me the bullshit not TikTok man. Yeah, taking over, bro,
taking over. Yeah, it's crazy too because now on TikTok
you have a record as old as fuck. Like, what's
the song? Oh, there's a Fetti Wap song again. Okay,
that's from twenty fourteen that just cracked the top forty
on Billboards Top one hundred.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
The song again by Feti You Didn't be Mine again? Baby? Bro?
That shit? That what Listen? There's a TikTok challenge.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, and songs nine years old, ten years old, and
it's number thirty six on Billboard.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Tip one hundred. That song is hard. No, it's a classic.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I'm gonna keep the fact that just got a whole
new life because the little niggas are playing it now.
Because I'm telling you, if you play that song in
any generation, that shit is just as hard. Fetti Wap,
where he had.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
The Gamey's twelve month run is insane.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Are here? He's like, yeah, like, oh it's up now
it's over.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
It's funny because I saw him open up for Chris
Brown on tour. It was Chris Brown him Migo's kidding
And when I tell you a store insane French Montana too.
People weren't calling for Chris Brown tickets. They were calling
for Fedi Bro. They were like, yoyo, we want to
see fetty wap.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, but Chris Brown's going it's his store and now
we want to see Fetti wip Bro. Fetti like that. Bro,
I'm trying to tell you, Bro, he had it. Oh
my fetti had like the gangster niggas ready to sing
for real? Yeah? No, what going crazy? For sure?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Is there anybody who because I feel like there's been
like a lot of the guys who have kind of
come up in the last couple of years since you
popped off that are kind of doing like some dope
melodic ship. Is there anybody who you're you're you're checking for,
anybody you're listening to that you want to work with?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Maybe now you know who? Uh came across my timeline.
I was like, brovoic bro voice voice is like super
like unique and I fucked the way like the way
he and ship the plug big Actually, Bro, I fucked Bro.
Want to get niggasi like? I like the way he
like the accent that crazy voice. Bro, I'm not gonna cut.
(26:38):
I really fuck with the way Bro really attacked the beat.
You know, I mean him it's crazy because it's like
I'm just she was a fat niggas Like no, like
it's fine. Dave blunts too, like Bro, I just fuck
with his sound, Like Bro, I just fuck with the
niggas sound. His lyrics are hilarious.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Bro, you saying the most out of pocket Jali a
little bit bro Temy l j Yes, but this.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Guy, fucking this guy is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
He'd be saying, I remember talking like you like saying
that hard r a lot. He's like, I just be
talking those songs. So I talk to my friends. I'm like,
all your friends look white in the room.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I'm gonna kid with a band.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I don't know about when he said when he said,
he said some like he got this one song. I
like his project because it's funny that ship. I was like, Bro,
you got the first project I listened to that. She
had me laughing out loud.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm like, that's crazy. This is my fuckers. They blunt.
I gotta I gotta hear more than because he's got
to get his from what I heard. I was like, oh,
this is nice, but what you're saying, is like, I
need to listen to a little his wild boy to
get like a little Oh he's okay, I'm gonna listen
to a little more.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
You might know he's got the song that can't put
down the cup, which people know you can't put down
the cup.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Can't put down the cup? Sip it brough maths.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
How to get him to be a Pescotanian. Bro, you
gotta put him on him on that giant man. Now
he can eat what you want to eat. Just you know,
stand up every now and again. That's all I dude, bro,
nice guy, that's all.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
This is super nice. He seemed like he came on
the podcast super sweet. Dug man. She's he's like he
want him to be around for sure. He's very genuine.
Need to get your girl to be his dietician. Hey,
she she she could, she could, she could get right?
You got right? She got me right? And box a
little bit and do some box. So boxing is is
the work. That's my viob.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
How many days a week you do it? No cap?
I try to do it every day besides Sunday. If
it's at the crib, it's at the crib. I got
I got to punch your bag. I gotta speedbag. I
got a dummy, I got everything I need. So she
being there up? Yess yeah type ship all right?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
So the album comes out the twenty first, which is next, No,
next Friday.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, next, bro. I'm so hype for this fucking project.
Like I said, like I put it together myself, and
like it's so like Bro, it's it's so life training
to really still be doing something that I love so
like and I always like to put track lists together.
So I finally get to put my own. Bro, I'm like, hell, yeah,
we outside that man? What was it like? Uh? How
(29:01):
much have you had a lot of time with with Ghazi?
Face to face? No? Not a lot of fact, not
a lot. I met him, of course talk to him,
but like not a lot of face to face. Who's
your p m over there? Who your project manager? Oh?
I used to work in Empires.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Oh okay, yeah yeah, I said, I said them nighttime.
Now you're in good hands man, Empires the ship. No,
I'm gonna lie Empires really really smooth.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah. I want to hear you and your boozie do
some ship. Bro. No, I got some for as if
he funcked me. No, boys, you and your boozy would
go crazy, would be And I'm trying to tell you
and now you are label mates. Bro Boozy fuck with
a country niggas to here you talking and you and
Jelly Roll Bro not. I hate to go to the
fact that no but Jelly crazy though I ain't gonna
lie to like bro no bullshit. I got I got
(29:48):
a couple of Jelly roll saws on my own my ship.
He got a song called talk to God and Liar,
Oh yeah, liars amazing motherucker. Bro, I got work. I'm
broking out. I got to bump them bitches you energy
winning streaks my ship. That's hard, that's hard to for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Well, listen, man, the album's dropping or mixtape long story
short and then album following Yes sir uh on next Friday,
on the twenty first, go running up, got thing goes
out right now?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Music videos coming up?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Sure? Anything else going on? Not just please pre saved.
It is time for more ready to give himself a
full shot. And people that fuck with me keep fucking
with me. If you don't fuck with me, you about
to fuck with me. Pre save the album.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Pre save that motherfucker please there it is my guy
I appreciate you, right sir Moray Fire
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