February 21, 2025 • 37 mins
Interview with Anella on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
One right now. Come on, Boutleg Cab Podcast. Special guests
in here. Annella, what's up, buddy? Not much? How you doing?
I'm good? So you have the happy Dad, Yeah, happy
Dad in your bio. You got some sort of deal
with these guys with the nelks.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like a what do you call it?
A brand ambassador?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Did pay you?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh? Yeah? And not just in happy dad, No, I
just happy that good people though. What's your favorite flavor? Gosh,
it depends probably living live, but like, if I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It, great, grape is fire, grape is super good. I
like the watermelon. Watermelon.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You can't go wrong with anything in the variety pet
you can, But I'm not a big wild cherry fan.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Wild cherry is cough, syrupy. Yeah you feel me, it is. Yeah,
that's the one where because I like wild cherry other selters,
but that one I can't. It's just too cough, surping.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't like wild cherry anything. I can't lie.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Not a cherry guy. No, no, no, shout to my producer
fucking things up over here with a ringing phone anyway. Man,
Uh so, yeah, I first met you because you work
with my boy Sud, who's a Carolina legend, legendary DJ
in the game Man and DJ and for two Chains forever.
So how did you guys end up working together and
how did you kind of get on his radar? Because
that was like four years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, damn near, I played like a I played like
a guitar at bar when I was in high school.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yo, wait a minute, the way you just said high
school that Carolina just came high school.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, high school, high school anyway, high school. When I
was in high school, no, no, you let it, let
it fly, I played up bars because I got like
three jobs got fired from all like three weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Three jobs.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Say you got five from in like three weeks. Like
I was not good. So I was like in high school, yeah, okay,
So I was like I ain't doing this no more.
So I started playing bars. And then I was playing
this bar called box Car Arcade in Greensboro, and I
met this guy in Malik, and he took me like
my first studio and we started working and sub was
throwing this show called the Parking Lot Concert. That's what
(02:39):
it's called, right, I remember you doing those yeah, No
stress Fest, the No Stress Fest.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And so they were like, I think it's like a
thousand dollars for a slot, and.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh you was host Elite was eating talk Elite like
booked me.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And then I was supposed to go like fourth or fifth,
but I'd never done like a rap. I never used
a wireless mic, and I brought my acoustic guitar to
this like super urban show. So like I got I
was standing beside stage like ten minutes before it even started,
so so just looked down like all the other rappers
weren't there.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, You're like hey man. He was like you ready.
I was like hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So I got on stage and then they didn't even
have like a mic stand or a like right, I
had like Guy Nam beat out holding the mic from
my guitar and Soud holding the mic from my mouth
or some crazy shit like with like.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That's random, you know what I'm saying visually, it's just
And so that's how we met.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But then a couple of weeks later, I put a
cover on Instagram of Lemonade by Don Tolliver and I
had like the No Stress This is like during COVID,
so I had the face mask on because he had
like a No Stress branded face mask, and he commented,
He's like this is fire.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Let's get in the studio and now we're here. That's dope, man.
Yeah that's like four years. Yeah, So like for people
who haven't heard you, will you hit the gate for
a lexus for me. Uh, for people who haven't heard you, man,
what would you say? Because obviously you were on on
the radar doing like a country like whet first, like
country performances. But I've heard you do like hip hop
shit too, Like yeah, what's kind of like your bag?
(03:59):
Would you say? Or is it just like my bad?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I have no idea, man, I think I'm still trying
to find it, But I just enjoyed making good music,
like I grew up on like Michael Jackson, Outcast, Stevie Wonder,
like the Carpenters, Like I got introduced to really good
music really young. And uh, but then you know, I
grew up when SoundCloud was popping and you had like
the little Uzy post Malone right Juice twenty three When
(04:23):
you just said you grew up when SoundCloud was popping, well,
I was in high school, like in my whole life,
flash before my eyes, Oh ship.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I was like, damn, that's when you were growing up.
You grew up on Juice World. Hell, yeah, I'm old
as fuck.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's crazy, but like that's what was popular when I
was in like middle school, high school. Well, fetty Wap
was when I was in what was it six eight nine. Yeah,
and that ship came on six seven nine, six seven.
He had a twelve month run for sure. Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So what part of the Carolina are you from?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Uh, I'm from Trinity, which is like a super small
town in the middle of like dead center, North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But I stay in Charlotte. Okay, So Trinity, North Carolina?
Is it like some like what do they what do
they do there? Nothing? Dude.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
They squat their trucks and go to like Taco Bell
and cook out and go to the football games, go
to church.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Taco Bell, Yeah, Taco bell in church. Yeah, Taco Bell
in church. That's crazy. There aren't really much else to do.
There's like a high blast in Jesus. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Amen, there's like three stoplights. So it's kind of all
you get.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So was it like did you grow up like was
your family listening in the country and ship?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Now, I grew up my dad was like the praise
and worship leader at our church, so he always So your.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Dad's yeah man of God.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, my whole family is. I am I'd like to
be I think getting there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
But yeah, he grew up in church, so he started
me playing drums when I was like four years old,
and then.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
He was just on it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I just got banned in middle school, and then I
got braces. I can play like woodwinds or brass instruments.
So I picked up guitar and piano. Yeah, the whole
whole ordeal.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I didn't think about that. If you have braces, you
really are fucked as a kid. You can only learn
certain instruments. Yeah, because the metal. You can't have metal
on metal. Nah, dude, it was like shred my lips
like I hated it. Yeah, I mean for you, man,
like what is uh? I guess if someone were to
like ask you, like to describe you as an artist,
what would you tell them if they hadn't heard your
music comfortable and nostalgic?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Describe me as an artist? It's just like I don't know.
I feel like everything just feels human, Like you know,
you listen to music and sometimes you can't tell I
don't know. I just think everything sounds like me, which
is you kind of got it. It's like looking at
a painting, like I can't describe the pain to you.
I just want you to tell me what you see,
you feel. I'm saying that's dope. Yeah, what is your
inspiration behind making the music? Like seasons of like season three,
(06:41):
seasons I grew up on like TV shows and shit,
like I love TV shows, I love movies, I love
like picking out certain directors, Like I feel like being
genreless you have to find because like everything is a
marketing game, you have to have something to market, Like
what are you marketing? Oh, you're good at this, Okay,
this is what we're gonna tell everybody you do. And
so it's like trying to be less and not necessarily
(07:01):
being able to say all the rapper all, I'm a singer,
I'm a country guy almost, you know what I'm saying.
The seasons gave me a way to like pinpoint everything
and kind of make it simple because like with season one,
I based it off of pulp fiction, so it's like
already comfortable, and the vibe of the project was that,
so I didn't have to match, it didn't have to
be the same genre all the way through. It just
had to, you know what I'm saying, feel good, feel
(07:23):
like that, like that nostalgic feeling.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So season one was pulp fiction feeling. Yeah, yeah, do
you have a song on there that replicates the feeling
of being Raims being raped in the button great.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Scene from the movie Gotta Ask Helena. You know the
scene I'm talking about right there?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Hell yeah, yeah, I gotta ask Now I had that
very complicated movie lot going on.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
No, yeah, yeah, well they also yeah, I'm just yeah,
held hell which which.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Song is that scene? No? No, I mean I obviously
Sandlot's the newest one.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Right yeah, yeah, Sandlot was the cover. That shit was
super fun.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Holes I see, I see a lot of yeah holes.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Of season two and then we had like the Hangover,
but we also did Mister Rogers in Friday for season three. Like, yeah,
I just like TV is like a big That's how
I like write music because I'm twenty three, so I
haven't What are you watching right now? You've seen Severans
I heard about it. It's someone on Apple right, yes?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah? Is getting Apple is? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie I be bootlegging and no
pun intended.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
But yeah, I just watched land Man. Yeah that ship's
with Billy Bob Thornton. Dude, my mom trying that ship
is crack. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I watched the first episode and I like felt like
I would get hooked, but like, oh you will. I've
got this rule where I like, I can't start another
TV show unless I finish one, because then I'll just
You're in the middle of severn So yeah, yeah, so
Severnce is the wave, dude, Severnce is so good.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did you watch Yellowstone?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No, but Seven's been trying to put me on that
ship like every week, like once.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We could be like you just watch Yellostone. It's good, man. Yeah, especially,
you know, I feel like it's like, I don't know,
made me want to be a cowboy. We're like, fuck, man,
I want to go fucking ride some horses. Dog, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah. Landy Wilson kind of fat
at bro. Then she know it's crazy because I met
Laney Wilson in person. I only know her from Yellowstone
(09:05):
and the Yellowstone she got the fattest white girl ass
you've ever seen on a human. And then I met
her and I was hanging out and drinking with her,
and I didn't realize it was her until like an
hour later, and my boy was like, you know, that's Laney,
And I was like, Landy Wilson, Oh, she lost weight.
She's like like she's she hit the I don't know
(09:26):
if she's on like Keto or something, but Tita, but
Landy Wilson from Yellowstone and Landy Wilson now is still beautiful,
still hot. Yeah, very different. She had a fucking she
had a goddamn god damn. She still got a god
damn for sure. You know it's still there, but it's
just not like it was. You know, it's more fit now.
It's out to Laney. She's a legend for sure. So
(09:47):
would you say you listen to more country now or nah?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Honestly, I've been listening to a lot, like you know,
the Weekend just dropped great album, Dude, so good, probably
one of the Like I also didn't listen to albums
until recently, Like I grew up just listening to the
radio and then I made music. So it was like
I listened to like the songs that were bigger from
this single era, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like this is the first album seven got me in
albums like I went back and listened to like A
Wild what that you just got in A Yeah? I
(10:12):
just got like bro, I just didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It was like I always listened to songs as a moment,
Like I remember the first song I listened to, you
know what I'm saying, when I like when I was
built my subs in my jeet, when I got my license,
Like I always related songs to my moment, So there
was never a many album, you know what I'm saying.
But now developing as an artist and like wanting to
learn how to properly you know, introduce people to me
as a person through music is like you have to
(10:36):
create a feeling in a project. And so I've been
studying and yeah, like the Weekend's album that she was
insane good album, the Trip to Yeah, Yeah album, Dude's
so good, so good, You've done trumps to the album No,
not to the album Yeah, I want to Yeah so good, bro,
I no, right.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's so good. Yeah made me feel like I was
on shrooms. Weekend's got good shrum music the most part.
He's got to get everything music.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Tam and Paula is the best shroom band ever though,
Oh for sure you ever want to just that?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh, it feels like Paula has got the best drug
music of all time for sure. Mac Miller's got some
show too, Uh, Mac DeMarco get for another Mac good
shroom music. Have you heard of Mac de Marco? Yes, Uh,
he's got some crazy stories behind his name. His video
is crazy, like he's always it's always. Yeah, he's got
like this. Yeah, shout out to Mac to Marco. So, uh,
(11:29):
I see I see you? Uh hanging with Posty Uh Yeah,
post is a great guy. He's a og at this point.
Someone else is pretty genrealists. Yeah, super nice guy, like
like the nicest guy.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, Like exactly what you see on the internet is
exactly what you get.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, did you play beer pong with him? Yeah? I did,
and I got wax bro. Yeah, he's pretty good at it. Dude.
Well he's cracked.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
She is insane, Like, I ain't get no warm up
though I'm not evena cap. I did not get no
warm up, So I'm not gonna say I needed like
a good two or three game warm up. I have
my nerves going, you know what I'm saying. I'm in
the rooming like superstars.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It was happy that pong obviously, Yeah, of course, of course, yeah,
of course.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I feel like, especially being from Trinity, North Carolina, there
had to be a lot of pong. It's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, that's how like you have to
pass the class to get your diploma.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So you know what I'm saying, is that is that
like for you? Like? Was it? Was? It? Like when
you meet someone like post Malone, who's like one of
the biggest pop stars of all time. He might be
the most successful streaming artist ever. He's at least top
three at this point. Yes, were you nervous?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, of course, I'm not gonna lie to the first
time I met him, we were in Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
He had pulled up.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He did a show at the P and C and
then Sud's good friends with Smitti, which is his DJ.
So he had introduced us and they took us back.
We didn't know we were going backstage, so we just
pulled up. They brought us backstage. I ended up meeting
a guy named Jay and a guy named Meil, which
is Jay's son, and that's like my dog now, so
we be hanging out.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's really how go places.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But we walked back there and he had just got
off stage and I wouldn't even expecting to see him,
and he walked in and like this cat like silk
cat gown with a bunch of cats all over it,
and I don't know why, but we ended up making
eye contact. We like the first people in the eye contact,
and my dumb ass I.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Was like, what the fuck? And then he just looked
at it and with what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And so it was like that was kind of like
the Bob shit. I was like, oh shit, all right,
I bet that's dope.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Man. Yeah, are you are you like writing for other people?
Are you trying to get like you know, cause obviously
you're in the studio a lot, and just kind of
the I haven't tried that yet.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's like, usually if I write a song and I
love it, I want it, and if I don't like it,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Even want nobody to hear it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So it's like I haven't across that, you know what
I'm saying, Like that that middle ground where I'm willing
to I'm willing for this be heard, but I don't
want to be heard out of my mind.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Like if you love a song, though, and somebody else
wants to sing it, that's much bigger than you would
you give it to them.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It depends on how much I love a song, if
it depends on if they sound better than me singing it.
If I listen to you singing and I like it
better and I like myself singing it, yeah you can
have it because I like that more.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But if I, you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Know, enjoy the way my voice sounds on it more
than yours, and nah, it's just ship.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I feel like I'm supposed to say it. Where's been
like the most random or cool place music has taken
you so far? Probably Sweden? Sweden.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I've never been out of the country and now I've
been to like Canada and Sweden. But Canada is still
North America, so I don't know. Yeah, Canada is like
Diet America, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
we just kind of you can drive there. I don't
count that is leading the country because we drove there. Yeah,
But like I went to Sweden. Deaf Jam opened an
office in Sweden and they wanted to a are They
opened like a what do you call it a branch,
a branch of Deaf Jam and Sweden or something like that,
(14:32):
and they wanted one of the American artists to come
perform to like you know what I'm saying, and they
asked me to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So that was super cool. What was this was? Did
you like IKEA's everywhere out there? Sweet?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Is that Switzerland or Sweden? That's Sweden and there there
that's what they were talking about. I didn't see one.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, meat balls.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah that's literally what I asked bro when I got there.
I asked about that in gang violence, So they don't
got guns out there, bro, they throw grenades in the
hotel lobbies.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Like that's what bro? He was like.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, he's like no, because I was like, shit, people
are out here like rapping.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And ship you know what I'm saying, Like, what do
they talk about? Because it's not there. They talk about grenades.
They're grenading each other dead ass, like you know the
UK's like they're out there each other.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, Bro, in Sweden they like throw grenades in the
hotel It's like a warning.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Wait, so there's no terrorism, you know? That is actual terror?
That's say is that happened in the US? Brother? That
would like make headlines everywhere. That's some real like that's
some drill music for real, which we're throwing grenades at people.
Yeah what rpgn are?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah that's insane. How the hell do you get access
to grenades? You can't get guns though. That's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Who the hell is selling grenade, not selling guns? I
wonder if they make Molotov cocktails, because you can make those.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, that's homemade. Somebody's got to I feel like that's
desperate though. If somebody did that shit, it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
They must really hate you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
They went through the process of making the Molotov cocktail
to try to kill you. That's like a statement piece.
They were thinking about killing you the whole time that
they're making it. Yeah, that grenades, like, yeah, the grenade
is already. Man, fucking I'm gonna throw there Molotov cocktail.
There's some do you get your night? And also you're
kind of like risking a lot. Well, I mean you're
risking a lot with a grip, but you gotta light it.
You could get messy what but you gotta make it,
(16:03):
you gotta pour it.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't know how to make it, and I'm not
gonna say that, but that's what's up, man. So what
else you got?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I mean, obviously uh uh you uh, you've been you've
been just putting that, putting in tons of work. What's
what's next for you.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
We're working on season five or you know we just
released season four. Yes, I need you. So we're working
on season five right now. Shout to the sandlot.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah for real, and yeah, Huncho's on there with you, right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, hell yeah that was super far. But uh, I'm
working that tall dude as fuck?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah what is he? Like? Six five? Yeah? Tall as man?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Hell yeah, I was like, God, damn, bro, I'm only
five nine, so like half the people I meet are
like way taller than me.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, I mean five nine is like a pretty average
you know what I'm saying. It's I mean, you're not sure,
but yeah, I'm not upset.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm grateful, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you could
be five you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Be cooked, dude. There's just a certain level of like
height that just most women are right off. Yeah, Like
if you're like past like a certain height, I feel
like women you could be successful, you get.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, but it's like you gotta look down at somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I feel that. Yeah, Like imagine you gotta look down
at your man. Yeah, Like if someone runs up on
you like you're the taller, no, literally, yeah, what are
you gonna do? Like? Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
That's crazy. Damn. I never thought about that though. How
to fun. You're riding her, she's not riding you. That's crazy.
You know that's crazy. You ever been with a big
like a bb a BBW like a hell never no,
(17:32):
never giving it a spin? Hell? Not even in North Carolina?
What you think we got going on? North Carolina? Fat bitches,
waffle House on every guy, Damn corner good Southern cooking.
You mean to tell me there's not some fat women
in Trinity, North Carolina that need some loving. All women need, no,
I mean yeah, they all need loving, which is why
it's you know, you should give a BBW a chance. Ship.
(17:54):
The thing about girls that are heftier shout out to
the you know, the heavy queens out there. Usually they're
very talented in certain aspects of the sexual process because
they have to make up for other things. Well I
thought she's about to go. Yeah no, No, Usually they're
very very like, they're very there, you know, like if
(18:15):
you were to look at like, uh, I'm picking Yeah,
I'm getting what you're saying. Yeah, like their abilities on
like a video game, it might be like no stamina,
stamming is like two pigs, but like head games like
thirty eight. Yeah, you know, yeah, ship, you can't give
it a shot. Man, you're in North Carolina. Brother's still rock.
You hit a BBW dot still a rock? You hit
(18:36):
a BBW. That's crazy. I don't mean like, I don't
mean like literally, but no, Yeah, what did you think
I was gonna say about? Oh, because Kanye just crashed
out on some shy said Kanye said that fat women
make our sex offenders because he's sexually offended.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, that's just insane. How do you feel about that?
That whole situation. I have no comment, no comment. I
don't want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Anything Kanye related here, ah except for yeah, man, I mean, look, Kanye,
I don't know much about ya. I met Kanye. It's nice.
I met him a few times, but I actually like
talk to him the Vultures thing when they when they
were recording the Vultures album. I was in the Four
(19:15):
Seasons with him and Tie and he was super cool.
I mean, but you know, I feel like he's also
probably bipolar. Yeah, I don't know, bro, I can't. I
ain't got so his tweets are wild. Yeah that was insane. Yeah,
that ship like, did you buy a shirt? Hell? No, fuck.
There was a lot of shirts and I much that shirt. No,
I ain't bought a shirt yet. The fact that Kanye
(19:36):
bought a super Bowl ad and they approved.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That, That's what. That's the only thing I was thinking, like,
you just did a super Bowl ad for that ship.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It ain't even that like the fact that they know
one at the NFL or at the network because he
was crashing out on Twitter before the Super Bowl. So
the fact nobody was like, hey, we should probably pull
this atah yeah, and they just let I remember I
was at I was watching the Super Bowl. I looked over.
I was like, oh, they let this ship up. They
that Kanye. Oh shit. And then there's just a swastikad
(20:04):
T shirt. It's crazy. Yeah, shots all the the Yeah. Anyway,
Season four, Season five on the way? Yeah yeah, season five.
So what if your approach of season five? What's the
do you know what which which what the art is
going to be? Like with what's the I don't I
don't know which movie we're going with you. I want
to say Talladega Nights because you know what I'm saying,
(20:25):
gas and it was filmed in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I just found that out. It's filmed, like Ricky Bobby's
house is in Lake Norman. The bar they shot it
in is downtown Charlotte. They shot it at the Charlotte Speedway.
So it's just like I feel like I coul rapp
all that together, kind of tie happy dad in get
like a car with a heavy dad wrap, just some
crazy shit heavy dad racesuit. But that's gonna be like
hopefully end of March, beginning of April, and then I'm
(20:47):
gonna try to do singles from like May to October.
That's dope, and just build, you know what I'm saying,
hopefully gain enough hype to where beginning twenty twenty six
I can start promoting an album.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, I feel like, uh, did you watch a lot
of Nascar growing up?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Because I feel like, honest, I didn't, But I have
a lot of history in my family with it. Like
I was super, I was stupid into music, Like I
was kind of like tunnel vision, like interesting sports or
nothing like that. Now I got the football because I
was fat and they were fat. Yeah yeah, I was fat.
Like yeah, do you have you got the skin?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah? Yeah? Oh so you were that fat? Yeah No,
I got not.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I don't got extra skin. Crazy, that's got like right here,
I can pull that ship, it'll stretch.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
How fat were you? Like?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
What was the heap heaviest? Probably like one eighty. But
this is like I was in I.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Was in middle school, jesus, I'm like, bro, heavie. No,
but that's that's crazy. It's like five too, though, five
one eight is crazy, fucking crazy. Yeah, five, that's a
fucking yeah. You were you were something cap So what what? Uh? What?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
What?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What like? Did you like start losing weight in high
school or no? Yeah? Well were you fat during high
school too? At the beginning?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Then I hit puberty and I was playing football, and
so it was just like, were you offensive lineman?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
The hell? Noah, how's an outside linebacker? And I can't
think of what else honestly? Football kind of like playing football,
you started to lose weight? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Hell yeah, well that's the only reason I did it.
I just wanted to lose I just wanted to fucking
look better.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, I mean it worked out, man, you look good.
You're a good looking Thank you, bro. I appreciate it.
I try. I would never felt you're a fat kid, dude.
It's okay, Yeah, and look at you over here. I
never fuck a fat girl. I'm good. No, that's not
b that's so funny, former fat brou what are we
doing here? Put on for the fats?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You ever watch Heavyweights? Hell? No, great kid nineties movie Heavyweights.
You've seen Heavyweights. It's amazing. Ben Steelers in it. He's
got this fat camp.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A fuck with Ben Steeler. Ben Steller directed Severns Diddy.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, oh, I like Ben Stiller. Dude, are you gonna
fuck with it? I had to check it out. It's
so good, bro, damn. So it's that once a fat person,
always a fat person. How do you make sure you
don't get fat again? Are you health conscientious? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Hell yeah, I'm started like count calories, like trying to
go to the gym. I've been in the gym since
I've been out here, but like I went to the
gym every day in January, like.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Just well, you gotta you're a You're a product now,
and I mean that respectfully.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
No, yeah, yeah, and that's what I've also been like
hearing and being told and just like watch your you
gotta look at yourself like a product. Yeah it's crazy,
but I stop vaping, like to take care of my
lungs in my throat like all that shit. I'm just
trying to be healthier in general too, plus like mentally,
like I feel like working out, eating better, not digest
all this horrible shit, and like vaping.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, man, that vaping shit is crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Dude, that shit's horrible. I wish I'd never started fucking
money hole.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Is it worse than cigarettes? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I think everything's bad. I think the air you breathe
is bad time, But I think if you can help it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You should. Are you Do you do drugs? Nope? None?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Define drugs, weed, No, don't smoke. I drink that's a drug.
Caffeine's a drug. Caffeine and nicotine's a drug.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah. So it's like if you drink coffee, yeah, yeah,
I'm hook Look I have an energy drink anacos. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I was about to say, you kind of stacked right there, bro,
I'm wired. I bet I'm gonna get all this timers.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I heard if you take, if you listen, if you drink, say,
if you drink too much coffee or too much caffeine,
because it's over stimulates your brain not stop. That would
when you get older, it affects your like you're more
libida likely to have Alzheimer's. Yeah, so I think I'm
gonna be cooked when by the time I'm seven, I
angry remember ship Dog because I'm fucking too many energy drinks.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Now you have to drink one to remember. Like every
time when I ask you a question, you just kind
of like take a shot and the think.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, who's your Like if there was like one artist
you could do a song with it. You haven't worked
with Adele Adele? Dude, Now this is the question, would
you rather work with skinny Adele or Fatadele? This is
a serious question because I would.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Rather work with the most mature Adele, which is what
Skinny ad the same. Well, she had problems with her voice,
I think because she had to stopp singing for a
while and like, but don't.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You think there's just her voice is only that of
that could have came from a person. It was a
little heavyweight. Nah, hell no, I don't know if adle
could get them notes off being skinny bro. I'm gonna
be honest, I haven't heard it yet. Since started fucking
with Rich Paul, I have heard that. I haven't heard
her hit the hit The notes same way. I don't know,
I could be wrong. I'd have to see the science,
the science, because you know what they say about the
(25:07):
fat lady singing, Yeah, it's true. I have to see
the science. Back in the day the opera, all them
girls were heavies. Keep coming back to fat women. Shout
to a Dell though, Is she all time great voice?
She's like top two, right, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Like songwriting insane. Yeahs fucking yeah, it's just insane.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, you and a Deel would be nice. She's on
our favorite artist for sure. Uh is it weird? Like
because you've done like country stuff, but the country music obviously,
being with depth Jam, being with sud Like you're kind
of a part of like one side of the music industry,
very hip hop oriented. But then you go to Nashville
and it's like the Good Old Boys Club. It's like
its own thing. It's its own industry, like separate of
(25:47):
the rest of the music industry.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You mean, like in countries like Nashville is quote unquote country.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yes, dude, something like because you've you obviously I'm saying like,
if you want to play in that country game, you can.
It's a whole other set of shit is crazy Hollywood.
Yea exactly his own thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, But like when I when I was growing up,
you always hear like Nashville straight country music. Like if
you want to go like play the band Joe, you
got to Nashville. But dude, when we went there, like
the house music scene is jumping like rappers there, like
there's a whole It's not just country.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
No. I know that. I know that, But I'm saying,
but you're you're you you have some country type shit.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh yeah, one hundred teer. So I'm saying like I'm
Southern like through and through. That's never gonna leave.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
When I talk, I hear it. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. It's not going away. So we know who
your parents voted for.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Bro, I'm not gonna LIU to you. I don't eve
know who my parents voted for. They get TikTok be
going crazy? What you said that said, TikTok be going crazy?
I know my phone's vibrating.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
You never know what side. Yeah, no, TikTok's wild. Were
you excited that TikTok was gonna get Yes, dude, because
I was. I was so hairy. I was like, great,
one more thing I don't got to worry about. That's
what I'm saying too.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It's more like it self like it's like damn, I
don't even have to self disciplined to like not pick
up my phone and just like it's just something to do.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You know what I'm saying. I'm talkingout like as an artist,
I feel like if TikTok went away, I mean, obviously
YouTube shorts and reels is going to take over, but
I feel like I don't know people went too Red Note, Yeah,
did you go to Red Note? No? Hell no, that
shit is straight? What if you thought what? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I feel like that shit would like I feel like
I plugged my phone and it would like steal everything
like they weren't doing it anyway, No exactly, but that's
what I'm saying. Bro, Like people was like, oh, TikTok's
bad like Red Note. There's no way Red Note wasn't worse.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I saw that people were trying to figure out how
to speak Mandarin on Red Note. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Like it was like straight, like I think that app
was like designed for China, like Chinese people like it
was like I mean, yes, you do know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So it's like TikTok was like TikTok was designed to
make us stupid Kinese people. Yeah, because their version of
TikTok is super fucking like education. I was about to say, Yeah,
I've seen videos like like where it's all like, no,
their algorithms like super positive educational out here. You know
it's brain rot it'. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Hell yeah, it's like people shaving sand while you like
listen to somebody talk about random like Internet.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Story for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Man, all right, so your season four is out? Yeah,
season four's out, Season five is on the way Taaladagan
Knight style.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Maybe, yeah, dude, do that. I think that'd be far plus.
It's like Will Ferrell can't go wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Will Farrell can't go wrong? Anything else you got work
you want to talk about? Man, oh, I really know
what I can think about. Honestly, happy to be out here.
I appreciate you having of course.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Is there is there anything that you've learned in the
last few years, because obviously you're kind of like from
Pandemic on your careers like really started to blossom, right.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, I started in the pandemic. I never saw the
world before the pandemic as an artist. Really yeah, Like
by the time I.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Was well, because you're twenty three, so you were probably like.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I graduated in twenty twenty when COVID hit. So it's
like by the time I was out of high school
and could travel and like really pursue it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
So at the end of your final year of school,
well you guys, did you guys go to webcam?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So, dude, I busted in the South. So, dude, I
busted my ass to graduate early. Like I start smart,
you graduated early. No, I wanted to drop out to
all while, like I want to drop out try to
pursue music. She's like nah, She's like, but you can
graduate earlier.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I was like bet.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So I went to school. It was like two weeks
into the first semester and they're like, nah, it's too late.
You can't change your classes, like you got to finish
the four year. So I like bluffed and I was like,
all right, I'm gonna come back tomorrow, my mom, I'm
gonna drop out. My school had a zero percent dropout, right,
So I came back the next day. You already knew
they were fucking with you know what. I'm saying, So
I came back the next day.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
All right, were this stuff around.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
We're gonna make sure you can graduate early. So I
graduated like January nineteenth. So you innuated a semester early. Yeah,
a semester early. So I left in January, then went
to flew out here for the first time. When I
flew out here, COVID wasn't a thing. When I flew
back home, COVID was a thing. Like while I was here,
COVID hit. So it's like my first time out here
(29:30):
was like the streets were empty, Like I remember taking
a picture in front of the Capitol Records Building. No
one on this street, Like.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Ya, we overreacted for sure. It was crazy, dude. Yeah,
but out there though, Trinity, North Carolina shut nothing closed
out there. Hell no, that shit. I went to Atlanta
during the pandemic. We went to Atlanta and we felt
like we're in a like upside down world. I was
getting lap dances and shit, I was, I was a man.
Pandemic is crazy. Early pandemic it was kind of crazy.
(29:59):
It was like, yo, we could go places. We felt
like we're in jail here. Oh, it was like that.
It's like shut down, shut down. Oh yeah, it was wild.
Like I was masked up wearing gloves like a pussy.
I remember.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I remember that because I used to say about the
gas pumps, like, yes, not pumps.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I would grab napkins. I had a box in my
rubbery gloves in my fucking car, so every time I
pump gas. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I forgot about that, you know, it's crazy that it
was like my kids on like all these like plexiglass
ship they put up in the middle of the restaurants,
and like they didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
They're still there there, They're not They're probably never gonna leave.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I mean, yeah, probably because it's quote I mean not
quote unquote, it's more sanitary.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But it's like it was never necessary. Now it's like
the worst part is when you see people to this
day driving in a car alone with a.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Mask on in l A. I've seen that a lot
out here, and now I just want to run them
off the road, like you.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Fucking pussy you're in the car when I was rolled up,
who you like, what do you think is gonna happen?
Is someone gonna fucking is COVID gonna sneak through the
fucking ac event Five years later and kill you. And
that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I think they have something like all right, you know
you have something you don't you don't want that ship
to get out.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You know what. People are scared and this COVID ship
just showed you. Like people like this. This is like
weak ass fools like they they won't let go of
that ship. They want to be able to you know,
I'll be at the fucking grocery store and you'll see
somebody triple masked up and they'd be like, God, damn,
can you imagine being married to that broud? Like what else?
(31:26):
What are we doing here? What is this? Citrus birds?
So this is a tobacco product technically, Yeah, sounds about white. Yeah.
How so that's like the things that you put here.
Yeah yeah, not good for you. You're eating your tobacco now, Yeah,
(31:50):
it's not my lungs. You're afraid. Like you ever see
the baseball players, That ship's all fucked up from chewing
chewing too much tobacco. Hell no, damn, I feel like
all the kids are doing this ship. Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like a real milk boy thing of you
to do. The happy dad had on, Like let me
pop a fucking pack it, pack a lip and send it. Yeah,
hell na, I just I just don't want to fucking
(32:12):
inhale smoke no more. Have you hung out with Kyle
and those guys one time?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
They had an event in uh, South Carolina that we
drove down to and ended up hanging out.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's like a heavy that event.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I'm boys with a guy named Chaffy, and so I
went to hang out with him and they we all
ended up going out after like this bar is like
a super locky night. But they were nice as fuck,
super nice. Yeah, some of the nice people. I My
boy Jesse was like the main one of the main guys.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, I'm real close with Jesse, who left but he
owns still owns a big chunk of happy Dad. Yeah.
Jesse's eating and he don't even drink. He's sober. That's hard,
you know. Jesse is Yeah, yeah, he's got the clothes
like Bloody Sunday, Bloody Sunday. Yeah yeah, yeah. Shout out
to the Milk Boys man. Yeah yeah, anyway, but listen, man,
go support this guy's music. Anything else tour coming, You're
(32:58):
gonna be hitting the road. Yeah, yeah, I go on tour.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
The actually doing my first arena tour with Lil Wayne.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Wow, that's nothing. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, I forgot, I'll be forgetting how much it's going
on because, dude, h honestly, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I don't even know how to explain that.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, agent Asian agent, Yeah, I guess as agent.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, but uh you uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
They just hit me and they're like, yo, would you
like to open up for low Ane?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
And I was like, ship, how can you say no
to that? Like that's a go.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I don't know what the hell I'm about to do,
but like it's nerve wracking as hell.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Play your guitar, man, dude.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
The first the first arena is the Pacers Arena in Indiana,
the Patriots Pacers.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh the Pacers. Oh yeah, I forget what they used
to call that when I was a kid, the House
of something house but yeah, that's joke. The Pacers. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
But are you a Panthers fan? Yeah, the whole I'm
a Steelers fan, but the Panthers are why. I mean,
I'd rather my Panthers fan. My dad's got Steeler's tattooed on,
he's got.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
No, you're not a You're not a Panthers fan.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You're a steelersh Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I just grew up like shit, being like Troy palm Molo.
That was like one of my Yeah, why would you
be a Panthers fan if you didn't have to be
right like your dad? Your dad gave you the out
at birth.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Imagine rooting for Jake
Delane as a grade schooler.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't really watch sports though, so it's just like, shit,
whoever winning.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Bryce Young, He's like, you're taller than him. That's your
starting quarterback in North Carolina. You don't even know Bryce
any Hell, I'm crazy. Yeah, you're not even a football fan. No,
God bless you. Well. Listen, man, I appreciate you pulling
up people go streaming. Shit it what's a Little Wayne
tour start? H February twenty seventh is the first that's
like in a week. Yeah, it's next week. Are you
like rehearsing? Yeah? I got it.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's why I'm leaving a here. Uh in today?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Are you gonna play the guitar on stage? Probably? I'll
probably end up doing that. I feel like that's your
easy way into the Little Wayne crowd because they'll appreciate
that if you're just up there like singing over your
track and shit.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oh yeah, god no, all all all our tracks, Like
we have specific tracks for shows that have less vocals
in them, so it's like my lead is present and
then oddly harmonies and stuff in so it still feels full.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
But like, I want people to hear my voice live.
That's kind of what you pay to see. Can we
hear you do something for us? What do you mean
you want to do? Like? Do it? I don't know,
fucking sing a song or something. Bro, Sure, pretend like
you're in front of a bunch of pacers fans. Little
Wayne's going to be closing out the show and you
got to impress them. Damn, I ain't know what to sing.
Sing something bro, no music, A cappella, dog acapella. Damn.
(35:27):
I'm trying to think what you want to hear? What
you be listening to? Oh if I would listen to
anything dog? Oh that's crazy. I'm very musically. I mean
I'm I'm pretty much It's like eighty percent hip hop
for sure, but you know, I'm pretty musically eclectic outside
of the eighty percent of boom back boom Back drug
rap I listened to. I was about to say it. Damn.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I feel like I should just sing some country. Even
talking about countries.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I do like country. You like country? I like, what
is that? What's your favorite country song? Oh? Damn, that's
a good question.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Probably probably Do you know any Garth Brooks? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
do some Garth Brooks. I know Garth Brooks. Uh, blame
it all on my root. I showed up in boots
and ruin your black tie. Yeah, last one new, last
one the show. I was the last one you thought
(36:17):
you'd see there.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Such a good song, dude, what are you me? I
got friends and low? Do you think that song is
like white people's Like what dude? I made so much
money and dreams and nightmares? Oh ship, I guess yeah,
that's like the redneck drink. That's like that's bartender by
rehab bartender. I really did you ship going to the
bar and play you know what else? Is a funk?
(36:40):
What's that? Uh? Uh? Sweet Caroline? Is the white people's
Oh yeah, ye, sweet Caroline? You play that in a
fucking bar anywhere where there's Yeah, you sing all of
it or Garth Brooks or Garth Brooks, Garth Brooks is
the country. Garth Brooks is the country. Crowded.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I feel like sweet Carolines everybody for everybody in the im.
Was gonna see any song.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
If it comes on. Yeah, that's facts. Well listen, man,
I appreciate you pulling up with your.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Instagram Anela any l l A. Yes, appreciate you man, Yes, sir,
thank you. Good luck on everything, good luck on tour, yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
How many dates? Five? Five is all you need? Yeah? Man, Hey,
you're gonna hang out with little wind sip some scissor
ship if he passes you the double cup, but you're
taking a sip, hell just to see what's in there.
Hell no, I'll look at it. I'll take it with
like what so are you using shit? Non water? Healthy guy?
He doesn't want to get fat. Again, Appreciate your buddy, yes, sir.
(37:32):
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Yeah, yeah, I'm like a what do you call it?
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Wild cherry is cough, syrupy. Yeah you feel me, it is. Yeah,
that's the one where because I like wild cherry other selters,
but that one I can't. It's just too cough, surping.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't like wild cherry anything. I can't lie.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Not a cherry guy. No, no, no, shout to my producer
fucking things up over here with a ringing phone anyway. Man,
Uh so, yeah, I first met you because you work
with my boy Sud, who's a Carolina legend, legendary DJ
in the game Man and DJ and for two Chains forever.
So how did you guys end up working together and
how did you kind of get on his radar? Because
that was like four years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, damn near, I played like a I played like
a guitar at bar when I was in high school.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yo, wait a minute, the way you just said high
school that Carolina just came high school.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, high school, high school anyway, high school. When I
was in high school, no, no, you let it, let
it fly, I played up bars because I got like
three jobs got fired from all like three weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Three jobs.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Say you got five from in like three weeks. Like
I was not good. So I was like in high school, yeah, okay,
So I was like I ain't doing this no more.
So I started playing bars. And then I was playing
this bar called box Car Arcade in Greensboro, and I
met this guy in Malik, and he took me like
my first studio and we started working and sub was
throwing this show called the Parking Lot Concert. That's what
(02:39):
it's called, right, I remember you doing those yeah, No
stress Fest, the No Stress Fest.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And so they were like, I think it's like a
thousand dollars for a slot, and.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh you was host Elite was eating talk Elite like
booked me.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And then I was supposed to go like fourth or fifth,
but I'd never done like a rap. I never used
a wireless mic, and I brought my acoustic guitar to
this like super urban show. So like I got I
was standing beside stage like ten minutes before it even started,
so so just looked down like all the other rappers
weren't there.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, You're like hey man. He was like you ready.
I was like hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So I got on stage and then they didn't even
have like a mic stand or a like right, I
had like Guy Nam beat out holding the mic from
my guitar and Soud holding the mic from my mouth
or some crazy shit like with like.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That's random, you know what I'm saying visually, it's just
And so that's how we met.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But then a couple of weeks later, I put a
cover on Instagram of Lemonade by Don Tolliver and I
had like the No Stress This is like during COVID,
so I had the face mask on because he had
like a No Stress branded face mask, and he commented,
He's like this is fire.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Let's get in the studio and now we're here. That's dope, man.
Yeah that's like four years. Yeah, So like for people
who haven't heard you, will you hit the gate for
a lexus for me. Uh, for people who haven't heard you, man,
what would you say? Because obviously you were on on
the radar doing like a country like whet first, like
country performances. But I've heard you do like hip hop
shit too, Like yeah, what's kind of like your bag?
(03:59):
Would you say? Or is it just like my bad?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I have no idea, man, I think I'm still trying
to find it, But I just enjoyed making good music,
like I grew up on like Michael Jackson, Outcast, Stevie Wonder,
like the Carpenters, Like I got introduced to really good
music really young. And uh, but then you know, I
grew up when SoundCloud was popping and you had like
the little Uzy post Malone right Juice twenty three When
(04:23):
you just said you grew up when SoundCloud was popping, well,
I was in high school, like in my whole life,
flash before my eyes, Oh ship.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I was like, damn, that's when you were growing up.
You grew up on Juice World. Hell, yeah, I'm old
as fuck.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's crazy, but like that's what was popular when I
was in like middle school, high school. Well, fetty Wap
was when I was in what was it six eight nine. Yeah,
and that ship came on six seven nine, six seven.
He had a twelve month run for sure. Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So what part of the Carolina are you from?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Uh, I'm from Trinity, which is like a super small
town in the middle of like dead center, North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But I stay in Charlotte. Okay, So Trinity, North Carolina?
Is it like some like what do they what do
they do there? Nothing? Dude.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
They squat their trucks and go to like Taco Bell
and cook out and go to the football games, go
to church.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Taco Bell, Yeah, Taco bell in church. Yeah, Taco Bell
in church. That's crazy. There aren't really much else to do.
There's like a high blast in Jesus. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Amen, there's like three stoplights. So it's kind of all
you get.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So was it like did you grow up like was
your family listening in the country and ship?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Now, I grew up my dad was like the praise
and worship leader at our church, so he always So your.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Dad's yeah man of God.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, my whole family is. I am I'd like to
be I think getting there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
But yeah, he grew up in church, so he started
me playing drums when I was like four years old,
and then.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
He was just on it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I just got banned in middle school, and then I
got braces. I can play like woodwinds or brass instruments.
So I picked up guitar and piano. Yeah, the whole
whole ordeal.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I didn't think about that. If you have braces, you
really are fucked as a kid. You can only learn
certain instruments. Yeah, because the metal. You can't have metal
on metal. Nah, dude, it was like shred my lips
like I hated it. Yeah, I mean for you, man,
like what is uh? I guess if someone were to
like ask you, like to describe you as an artist,
what would you tell them if they hadn't heard your
music comfortable and nostalgic?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Describe me as an artist? It's just like I don't know.
I feel like everything just feels human, Like you know,
you listen to music and sometimes you can't tell I
don't know. I just think everything sounds like me, which
is you kind of got it. It's like looking at
a painting, like I can't describe the pain to you.
I just want you to tell me what you see,
you feel. I'm saying that's dope. Yeah, what is your
inspiration behind making the music? Like seasons of like season three,
(06:41):
seasons I grew up on like TV shows and shit,
like I love TV shows, I love movies, I love
like picking out certain directors, Like I feel like being
genreless you have to find because like everything is a
marketing game, you have to have something to market, Like
what are you marketing? Oh, you're good at this, Okay,
this is what we're gonna tell everybody you do. And
so it's like trying to be less and not necessarily
(07:01):
being able to say all the rapper all, I'm a singer,
I'm a country guy almost, you know what I'm saying.
The seasons gave me a way to like pinpoint everything
and kind of make it simple because like with season one,
I based it off of pulp fiction, so it's like
already comfortable, and the vibe of the project was that,
so I didn't have to match, it didn't have to
be the same genre all the way through. It just
had to, you know what I'm saying, feel good, feel
(07:23):
like that, like that nostalgic feeling.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So season one was pulp fiction feeling. Yeah, yeah, do
you have a song on there that replicates the feeling
of being Raims being raped in the button great.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Scene from the movie Gotta Ask Helena. You know the
scene I'm talking about right there?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Hell yeah, yeah, I gotta ask Now I had that
very complicated movie lot going on.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
No, yeah, yeah, well they also yeah, I'm just yeah,
held hell which which.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Song is that scene? No? No, I mean I obviously
Sandlot's the newest one.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Right yeah, yeah, Sandlot was the cover. That shit was
super fun.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Holes I see, I see a lot of yeah holes.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Of season two and then we had like the Hangover,
but we also did Mister Rogers in Friday for season three. Like, yeah,
I just like TV is like a big That's how
I like write music because I'm twenty three, so I
haven't What are you watching right now? You've seen Severans
I heard about it. It's someone on Apple right, yes?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah? Is getting Apple is? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie I be bootlegging and no
pun intended.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
But yeah, I just watched land Man. Yeah that ship's
with Billy Bob Thornton. Dude, my mom trying that ship
is crack. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I watched the first episode and I like felt like
I would get hooked, but like, oh you will. I've
got this rule where I like, I can't start another
TV show unless I finish one, because then I'll just
You're in the middle of severn So yeah, yeah, so
Severnce is the wave, dude, Severnce is so good.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did you watch Yellowstone?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No, but Seven's been trying to put me on that
ship like every week, like once.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We could be like you just watch Yellostone. It's good, man. Yeah, especially,
you know, I feel like it's like, I don't know,
made me want to be a cowboy. We're like, fuck, man,
I want to go fucking ride some horses. Dog, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah. Landy Wilson kind of fat
at bro. Then she know it's crazy because I met
Laney Wilson in person. I only know her from Yellowstone
(09:05):
and the Yellowstone she got the fattest white girl ass
you've ever seen on a human. And then I met
her and I was hanging out and drinking with her,
and I didn't realize it was her until like an
hour later, and my boy was like, you know, that's Laney,
And I was like, Landy Wilson, Oh, she lost weight.
She's like like she's she hit the I don't know
(09:26):
if she's on like Keto or something, but Tita, but
Landy Wilson from Yellowstone and Landy Wilson now is still beautiful,
still hot. Yeah, very different. She had a fucking she
had a goddamn god damn. She still got a god
damn for sure. You know it's still there, but it's
just not like it was. You know, it's more fit now.
It's out to Laney. She's a legend for sure. So
(09:47):
would you say you listen to more country now or nah?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Honestly, I've been listening to a lot, like you know,
the Weekend just dropped great album, Dude, so good, probably
one of the Like I also didn't listen to albums
until recently, Like I grew up just listening to the
radio and then I made music. So it was like
I listened to like the songs that were bigger from
this single era, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like this is the first album seven got me in
albums like I went back and listened to like A
Wild what that you just got in A Yeah? I
(10:12):
just got like bro, I just didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It was like I always listened to songs as a moment,
Like I remember the first song I listened to, you
know what I'm saying, when I like when I was
built my subs in my jeet, when I got my license,
Like I always related songs to my moment, So there
was never a many album, you know what I'm saying.
But now developing as an artist and like wanting to
learn how to properly you know, introduce people to me
as a person through music is like you have to
(10:36):
create a feeling in a project. And so I've been
studying and yeah, like the Weekend's album that she was
insane good album, the Trip to Yeah, Yeah album, Dude's
so good, so good, You've done trumps to the album No,
not to the album Yeah, I want to Yeah so good, bro,
I no, right.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's so good. Yeah made me feel like I was
on shrooms. Weekend's got good shrum music the most part.
He's got to get everything music.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Tam and Paula is the best shroom band ever though,
Oh for sure you ever want to just that?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh, it feels like Paula has got the best drug
music of all time for sure. Mac Miller's got some
show too, Uh, Mac DeMarco get for another Mac good
shroom music. Have you heard of Mac de Marco? Yes, Uh,
he's got some crazy stories behind his name. His video
is crazy, like he's always it's always. Yeah, he's got
like this. Yeah, shout out to Mac to Marco. So, uh,
(11:29):
I see I see you? Uh hanging with Posty Uh Yeah,
post is a great guy. He's a og at this point.
Someone else is pretty genrealists. Yeah, super nice guy, like
like the nicest guy.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, Like exactly what you see on the internet is
exactly what you get.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, did you play beer pong with him? Yeah? I did,
and I got wax bro. Yeah, he's pretty good at it. Dude.
Well he's cracked.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
She is insane, Like, I ain't get no warm up
though I'm not evena cap. I did not get no
warm up, So I'm not gonna say I needed like
a good two or three game warm up. I have
my nerves going, you know what I'm saying. I'm in
the rooming like superstars.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It was happy that pong obviously, Yeah, of course, of course, yeah,
of course.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I feel like, especially being from Trinity, North Carolina, there
had to be a lot of pong. It's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, that's how like you have to
pass the class to get your diploma.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So you know what I'm saying, is that is that
like for you? Like? Was it? Was? It? Like when
you meet someone like post Malone, who's like one of
the biggest pop stars of all time. He might be
the most successful streaming artist ever. He's at least top
three at this point. Yes, were you nervous?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, of course, I'm not gonna lie to the first
time I met him, we were in Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
He had pulled up.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He did a show at the P and C and
then Sud's good friends with Smitti, which is his DJ.
So he had introduced us and they took us back.
We didn't know we were going backstage, so we just
pulled up. They brought us backstage. I ended up meeting
a guy named Jay and a guy named Meil, which
is Jay's son, and that's like my dog now, so
we be hanging out.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's really how go places.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But we walked back there and he had just got
off stage and I wouldn't even expecting to see him,
and he walked in and like this cat like silk
cat gown with a bunch of cats all over it,
and I don't know why, but we ended up making
eye contact. We like the first people in the eye contact,
and my dumb ass I.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Was like, what the fuck? And then he just looked
at it and with what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And so it was like that was kind of like
the Bob shit. I was like, oh shit, all right,
I bet that's dope.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Man. Yeah, are you are you like writing for other people?
Are you trying to get like you know, cause obviously
you're in the studio a lot, and just kind of
the I haven't tried that yet.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's like, usually if I write a song and I
love it, I want it, and if I don't like it,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Even want nobody to hear it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So it's like I haven't across that, you know what
I'm saying, Like that that middle ground where I'm willing
to I'm willing for this be heard, but I don't
want to be heard out of my mind.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Like if you love a song, though, and somebody else
wants to sing it, that's much bigger than you would
you give it to them.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It depends on how much I love a song, if
it depends on if they sound better than me singing it.
If I listen to you singing and I like it
better and I like myself singing it, yeah you can
have it because I like that more.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But if I, you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Know, enjoy the way my voice sounds on it more
than yours, and nah, it's just ship.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I feel like I'm supposed to say it. Where's been
like the most random or cool place music has taken
you so far? Probably Sweden? Sweden.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I've never been out of the country and now I've
been to like Canada and Sweden. But Canada is still
North America, so I don't know. Yeah, Canada is like
Diet America, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
we just kind of you can drive there. I don't
count that is leading the country because we drove there. Yeah,
But like I went to Sweden. Deaf Jam opened an
office in Sweden and they wanted to a are They
opened like a what do you call it a branch,
a branch of Deaf Jam and Sweden or something like that,
(14:32):
and they wanted one of the American artists to come
perform to like you know what I'm saying, and they
asked me to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So that was super cool. What was this was? Did
you like IKEA's everywhere out there? Sweet?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Is that Switzerland or Sweden? That's Sweden and there there
that's what they were talking about. I didn't see one.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, meat balls.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah that's literally what I asked bro when I got there.
I asked about that in gang violence, So they don't
got guns out there, bro, they throw grenades in the
hotel lobbies.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Like that's what bro? He was like.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, he's like no, because I was like, shit, people
are out here like rapping.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And ship you know what I'm saying, Like, what do
they talk about? Because it's not there. They talk about grenades.
They're grenading each other dead ass, like you know the
UK's like they're out there each other.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, Bro, in Sweden they like throw grenades in the
hotel It's like a warning.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Wait, so there's no terrorism, you know? That is actual terror?
That's say is that happened in the US? Brother? That
would like make headlines everywhere. That's some real like that's
some drill music for real, which we're throwing grenades at people.
Yeah what rpgn are?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah that's insane. How the hell do you get access
to grenades? You can't get guns though. That's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Who the hell is selling grenade, not selling guns? I
wonder if they make Molotov cocktails, because you can make those.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, that's homemade. Somebody's got to I feel like that's
desperate though. If somebody did that shit, it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
They must really hate you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
They went through the process of making the Molotov cocktail
to try to kill you. That's like a statement piece.
They were thinking about killing you the whole time that
they're making it. Yeah, that grenades, like, yeah, the grenade
is already. Man, fucking I'm gonna throw there Molotov cocktail.
There's some do you get your night? And also you're
kind of like risking a lot. Well, I mean you're
risking a lot with a grip, but you gotta light it.
You could get messy what but you gotta make it,
(16:03):
you gotta pour it.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't know how to make it, and I'm not
gonna say that, but that's what's up, man. So what
else you got?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I mean, obviously uh uh you uh, you've been you've
been just putting that, putting in tons of work. What's
what's next for you.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
We're working on season five or you know we just
released season four. Yes, I need you. So we're working
on season five right now. Shout to the sandlot.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah for real, and yeah, Huncho's on there with you, right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, hell yeah that was super far. But uh, I'm
working that tall dude as fuck?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah what is he? Like? Six five? Yeah? Tall as man?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Hell yeah, I was like, God, damn, bro, I'm only
five nine, so like half the people I meet are
like way taller than me.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, I mean five nine is like a pretty average
you know what I'm saying. It's I mean, you're not sure,
but yeah, I'm not upset.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm grateful, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you could
be five you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Be cooked, dude. There's just a certain level of like
height that just most women are right off. Yeah, Like
if you're like past like a certain height, I feel
like women you could be successful, you get.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, but it's like you gotta look down at somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I feel that. Yeah, Like imagine you gotta look down
at your man. Yeah, Like if someone runs up on
you like you're the taller, no, literally, yeah, what are
you gonna do? Like? Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
That's crazy. Damn. I never thought about that though. How
to fun. You're riding her, she's not riding you. That's crazy.
You know that's crazy. You ever been with a big
like a bb a BBW like a hell never no,
(17:32):
never giving it a spin? Hell? Not even in North Carolina?
What you think we got going on? North Carolina? Fat bitches,
waffle House on every guy, Damn corner good Southern cooking.
You mean to tell me there's not some fat women
in Trinity, North Carolina that need some loving. All women need, no,
I mean yeah, they all need loving, which is why
it's you know, you should give a BBW a chance. Ship.
(17:54):
The thing about girls that are heftier shout out to
the you know, the heavy queens out there. Usually they're
very talented in certain aspects of the sexual process because
they have to make up for other things. Well I
thought she's about to go. Yeah no, No, Usually they're
very very like, they're very there, you know, like if
(18:15):
you were to look at like, uh, I'm picking Yeah,
I'm getting what you're saying. Yeah, like their abilities on
like a video game, it might be like no stamina,
stamming is like two pigs, but like head games like
thirty eight. Yeah, you know, yeah, ship, you can't give
it a shot. Man, you're in North Carolina. Brother's still rock.
You hit a BBW dot still a rock? You hit
(18:36):
a BBW. That's crazy. I don't mean like, I don't
mean like literally, but no, Yeah, what did you think
I was gonna say about? Oh, because Kanye just crashed
out on some shy said Kanye said that fat women
make our sex offenders because he's sexually offended.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, that's just insane. How do you feel about that?
That whole situation. I have no comment, no comment. I
don't want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Anything Kanye related here, ah except for yeah, man, I mean, look, Kanye,
I don't know much about ya. I met Kanye. It's nice.
I met him a few times, but I actually like
talk to him the Vultures thing when they when they
were recording the Vultures album. I was in the Four
(19:15):
Seasons with him and Tie and he was super cool.
I mean, but you know, I feel like he's also
probably bipolar. Yeah, I don't know, bro, I can't. I
ain't got so his tweets are wild. Yeah that was insane. Yeah,
that ship like, did you buy a shirt? Hell? No, fuck.
There was a lot of shirts and I much that shirt. No,
I ain't bought a shirt yet. The fact that Kanye
(19:36):
bought a super Bowl ad and they approved.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That, That's what. That's the only thing I was thinking, like,
you just did a super Bowl ad for that ship.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It ain't even that like the fact that they know
one at the NFL or at the network because he
was crashing out on Twitter before the Super Bowl. So
the fact nobody was like, hey, we should probably pull
this atah yeah, and they just let I remember I
was at I was watching the Super Bowl. I looked over.
I was like, oh, they let this ship up. They
that Kanye. Oh shit. And then there's just a swastikad
(20:04):
T shirt. It's crazy. Yeah, shots all the the Yeah. Anyway,
Season four, Season five on the way? Yeah yeah, season five.
So what if your approach of season five? What's the
do you know what which which what the art is
going to be? Like with what's the I don't I
don't know which movie we're going with you. I want
to say Talladega Nights because you know what I'm saying,
(20:25):
gas and it was filmed in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I just found that out. It's filmed, like Ricky Bobby's
house is in Lake Norman. The bar they shot it
in is downtown Charlotte. They shot it at the Charlotte Speedway.
So it's just like I feel like I coul rapp
all that together, kind of tie happy dad in get
like a car with a heavy dad wrap, just some
crazy shit heavy dad racesuit. But that's gonna be like
hopefully end of March, beginning of April, and then I'm
(20:47):
gonna try to do singles from like May to October.
That's dope, and just build, you know what I'm saying,
hopefully gain enough hype to where beginning twenty twenty six
I can start promoting an album.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, I feel like, uh, did you watch a lot
of Nascar growing up?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Because I feel like, honest, I didn't, But I have
a lot of history in my family with it. Like
I was super, I was stupid into music, Like I
was kind of like tunnel vision, like interesting sports or
nothing like that. Now I got the football because I
was fat and they were fat. Yeah yeah, I was fat.
Like yeah, do you have you got the skin?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah? Yeah? Oh so you were that fat? Yeah No,
I got not.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I don't got extra skin. Crazy, that's got like right here,
I can pull that ship, it'll stretch.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
How fat were you? Like?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
What was the heap heaviest? Probably like one eighty. But
this is like I was in I.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Was in middle school, jesus, I'm like, bro, heavie. No,
but that's that's crazy. It's like five too, though, five
one eight is crazy, fucking crazy. Yeah, five, that's a
fucking yeah. You were you were something cap So what what? Uh? What?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
What?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What like? Did you like start losing weight in high
school or no? Yeah? Well were you fat during high
school too? At the beginning?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Then I hit puberty and I was playing football, and
so it was just like, were you offensive lineman?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
The hell? Noah, how's an outside linebacker? And I can't
think of what else honestly? Football kind of like playing football,
you started to lose weight? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Hell yeah, well that's the only reason I did it.
I just wanted to lose I just wanted to fucking
look better.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, I mean it worked out, man, you look good.
You're a good looking Thank you, bro. I appreciate it.
I try. I would never felt you're a fat kid, dude.
It's okay, Yeah, and look at you over here. I
never fuck a fat girl. I'm good. No, that's not
b that's so funny, former fat brou what are we
doing here? Put on for the fats?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You ever watch Heavyweights? Hell? No, great kid nineties movie Heavyweights.
You've seen Heavyweights. It's amazing. Ben Steelers in it. He's
got this fat camp.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A fuck with Ben Steeler. Ben Steller directed Severns Diddy.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, oh, I like Ben Stiller. Dude, are you gonna
fuck with it? I had to check it out. It's
so good, bro, damn. So it's that once a fat person,
always a fat person. How do you make sure you
don't get fat again? Are you health conscientious? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Hell yeah, I'm started like count calories, like trying to
go to the gym. I've been in the gym since
I've been out here, but like I went to the
gym every day in January, like.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Just well, you gotta you're a You're a product now,
and I mean that respectfully.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
No, yeah, yeah, and that's what I've also been like
hearing and being told and just like watch your you
gotta look at yourself like a product. Yeah it's crazy,
but I stop vaping, like to take care of my
lungs in my throat like all that shit. I'm just
trying to be healthier in general too, plus like mentally,
like I feel like working out, eating better, not digest
all this horrible shit, and like vaping.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, man, that vaping shit is crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Dude, that shit's horrible. I wish I'd never started fucking
money hole.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Is it worse than cigarettes? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I think everything's bad. I think the air you breathe
is bad time, But I think if you can help it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You should. Are you Do you do drugs? Nope? None?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Define drugs, weed, No, don't smoke. I drink that's a drug.
Caffeine's a drug. Caffeine and nicotine's a drug.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah. So it's like if you drink coffee, yeah, yeah,
I'm hook Look I have an energy drink anacos. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I was about to say, you kind of stacked right there, bro,
I'm wired. I bet I'm gonna get all this timers.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I heard if you take, if you listen, if you drink, say,
if you drink too much coffee or too much caffeine,
because it's over stimulates your brain not stop. That would
when you get older, it affects your like you're more
libida likely to have Alzheimer's. Yeah, so I think I'm
gonna be cooked when by the time I'm seven, I
angry remember ship Dog because I'm fucking too many energy drinks.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Now you have to drink one to remember. Like every
time when I ask you a question, you just kind
of like take a shot and the think.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, who's your Like if there was like one artist
you could do a song with it. You haven't worked
with Adele Adele? Dude, Now this is the question, would
you rather work with skinny Adele or Fatadele? This is
a serious question because I would.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Rather work with the most mature Adele, which is what
Skinny ad the same. Well, she had problems with her voice,
I think because she had to stopp singing for a
while and like, but don't.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You think there's just her voice is only that of
that could have came from a person. It was a
little heavyweight. Nah, hell no, I don't know if adle
could get them notes off being skinny bro. I'm gonna
be honest, I haven't heard it yet. Since started fucking
with Rich Paul, I have heard that. I haven't heard
her hit the hit The notes same way. I don't know,
I could be wrong. I'd have to see the science,
the science, because you know what they say about the
(25:07):
fat lady singing, Yeah, it's true. I have to see
the science. Back in the day the opera, all them
girls were heavies. Keep coming back to fat women. Shout
to a Dell though, Is she all time great voice?
She's like top two, right, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Like songwriting insane. Yeahs fucking yeah, it's just insane.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, you and a Deel would be nice. She's on
our favorite artist for sure. Uh is it weird? Like
because you've done like country stuff, but the country music obviously,
being with depth Jam, being with sud Like you're kind
of a part of like one side of the music industry,
very hip hop oriented. But then you go to Nashville
and it's like the Good Old Boys Club. It's like
its own thing. It's its own industry, like separate of
(25:47):
the rest of the music industry.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You mean, like in countries like Nashville is quote unquote country.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yes, dude, something like because you've you obviously I'm saying like,
if you want to play in that country game, you can.
It's a whole other set of shit is crazy Hollywood.
Yea exactly his own thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, But like when I when I was growing up,
you always hear like Nashville straight country music. Like if
you want to go like play the band Joe, you
got to Nashville. But dude, when we went there, like
the house music scene is jumping like rappers there, like
there's a whole It's not just country.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
No. I know that. I know that, But I'm saying,
but you're you're you you have some country type shit.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh yeah, one hundred teer. So I'm saying like I'm
Southern like through and through. That's never gonna leave.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
When I talk, I hear it. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. It's not going away. So we know who
your parents voted for.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Bro, I'm not gonna LIU to you. I don't eve
know who my parents voted for. They get TikTok be
going crazy? What you said that said, TikTok be going crazy?
I know my phone's vibrating.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
You never know what side. Yeah, no, TikTok's wild. Were
you excited that TikTok was gonna get Yes, dude, because
I was. I was so hairy. I was like, great,
one more thing I don't got to worry about. That's
what I'm saying too.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It's more like it self like it's like damn, I
don't even have to self disciplined to like not pick
up my phone and just like it's just something to do.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You know what I'm saying. I'm talkingout like as an artist,
I feel like if TikTok went away, I mean, obviously
YouTube shorts and reels is going to take over, but
I feel like I don't know people went too Red Note, Yeah,
did you go to Red Note? No? Hell no, that
shit is straight? What if you thought what? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I feel like that shit would like I feel like
I plugged my phone and it would like steal everything
like they weren't doing it anyway, No exactly, but that's
what I'm saying. Bro, Like people was like, oh, TikTok's
bad like Red Note. There's no way Red Note wasn't worse.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I saw that people were trying to figure out how
to speak Mandarin on Red Note. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Like it was like straight, like I think that app
was like designed for China, like Chinese people like it
was like I mean, yes, you do know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So it's like TikTok was like TikTok was designed to
make us stupid Kinese people. Yeah, because their version of
TikTok is super fucking like education. I was about to say, Yeah,
I've seen videos like like where it's all like, no,
their algorithms like super positive educational out here. You know
it's brain rot it'. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Hell yeah, it's like people shaving sand while you like
listen to somebody talk about random like Internet.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Story for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Man, all right, so your season four is out? Yeah,
season four's out, Season five is on the way Taaladagan
Knight style.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Maybe, yeah, dude, do that. I think that'd be far plus.
It's like Will Ferrell can't go wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Will Farrell can't go wrong? Anything else you got work
you want to talk about? Man, oh, I really know
what I can think about. Honestly, happy to be out here.
I appreciate you having of course.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Is there is there anything that you've learned in the
last few years, because obviously you're kind of like from
Pandemic on your careers like really started to blossom, right.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, I started in the pandemic. I never saw the
world before the pandemic as an artist. Really yeah, Like
by the time I.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Was well, because you're twenty three, so you were probably like.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I graduated in twenty twenty when COVID hit. So it's
like by the time I was out of high school
and could travel and like really pursue it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
So at the end of your final year of school,
well you guys, did you guys go to webcam?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So, dude, I busted in the South. So, dude, I
busted my ass to graduate early. Like I start smart,
you graduated early. No, I wanted to drop out to
all while, like I want to drop out try to
pursue music. She's like nah, She's like, but you can
graduate earlier.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I was like bet.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So I went to school. It was like two weeks
into the first semester and they're like, nah, it's too late.
You can't change your classes, like you got to finish
the four year. So I like bluffed and I was like,
all right, I'm gonna come back tomorrow, my mom, I'm
gonna drop out. My school had a zero percent dropout, right,
So I came back the next day. You already knew
they were fucking with you know what. I'm saying, So
I came back the next day.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
All right, were this stuff around.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
We're gonna make sure you can graduate early. So I
graduated like January nineteenth. So you innuated a semester early. Yeah,
a semester early. So I left in January, then went
to flew out here for the first time. When I
flew out here, COVID wasn't a thing. When I flew
back home, COVID was a thing. Like while I was here,
COVID hit. So it's like my first time out here
(29:30):
was like the streets were empty, Like I remember taking
a picture in front of the Capitol Records Building. No
one on this street, Like.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Ya, we overreacted for sure. It was crazy, dude. Yeah,
but out there though, Trinity, North Carolina shut nothing closed
out there. Hell no, that shit. I went to Atlanta
during the pandemic. We went to Atlanta and we felt
like we're in a like upside down world. I was
getting lap dances and shit, I was, I was a man.
Pandemic is crazy. Early pandemic it was kind of crazy.
(29:59):
It was like, yo, we could go places. We felt
like we're in jail here. Oh, it was like that.
It's like shut down, shut down. Oh yeah, it was wild.
Like I was masked up wearing gloves like a pussy.
I remember.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I remember that because I used to say about the
gas pumps, like, yes, not pumps.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I would grab napkins. I had a box in my
rubbery gloves in my fucking car, so every time I
pump gas. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I forgot about that, you know, it's crazy that it
was like my kids on like all these like plexiglass
ship they put up in the middle of the restaurants,
and like they didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
They're still there there, They're not They're probably never gonna leave.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I mean, yeah, probably because it's quote I mean not
quote unquote, it's more sanitary.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But it's like it was never necessary. Now it's like
the worst part is when you see people to this
day driving in a car alone with a.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Mask on in l A. I've seen that a lot
out here, and now I just want to run them
off the road, like you.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Fucking pussy you're in the car when I was rolled up,
who you like, what do you think is gonna happen?
Is someone gonna fucking is COVID gonna sneak through the
fucking ac event Five years later and kill you. And
that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I think they have something like all right, you know
you have something you don't you don't want that ship
to get out.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You know what. People are scared and this COVID ship
just showed you. Like people like this. This is like
weak ass fools like they they won't let go of
that ship. They want to be able to you know,
I'll be at the fucking grocery store and you'll see
somebody triple masked up and they'd be like, God, damn,
can you imagine being married to that broud? Like what else?
(31:26):
What are we doing here? What is this? Citrus birds?
So this is a tobacco product technically, Yeah, sounds about white. Yeah.
How so that's like the things that you put here.
Yeah yeah, not good for you. You're eating your tobacco now, Yeah,
(31:50):
it's not my lungs. You're afraid. Like you ever see
the baseball players, That ship's all fucked up from chewing
chewing too much tobacco. Hell no, damn, I feel like
all the kids are doing this ship. Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like a real milk boy thing of you
to do. The happy dad had on, Like let me
pop a fucking pack it, pack a lip and send it. Yeah,
hell na, I just I just don't want to fucking
(32:12):
inhale smoke no more. Have you hung out with Kyle
and those guys one time?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
They had an event in uh, South Carolina that we
drove down to and ended up hanging out.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's like a heavy that event.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I'm boys with a guy named Chaffy, and so I
went to hang out with him and they we all
ended up going out after like this bar is like
a super locky night. But they were nice as fuck,
super nice. Yeah, some of the nice people. I My
boy Jesse was like the main one of the main guys.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, I'm real close with Jesse, who left but he
owns still owns a big chunk of happy Dad. Yeah.
Jesse's eating and he don't even drink. He's sober. That's hard,
you know. Jesse is Yeah, yeah, he's got the clothes
like Bloody Sunday, Bloody Sunday. Yeah yeah, yeah. Shout out
to the Milk Boys man. Yeah yeah, anyway, but listen, man,
go support this guy's music. Anything else tour coming, You're
(32:58):
gonna be hitting the road. Yeah, yeah, I go on tour.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
The actually doing my first arena tour with Lil Wayne.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Wow, that's nothing. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, I forgot, I'll be forgetting how much it's going
on because, dude, h honestly, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I don't even know how to explain that.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, agent Asian agent, Yeah, I guess as agent.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, but uh you uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
They just hit me and they're like, yo, would you
like to open up for low Ane?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
And I was like, ship, how can you say no
to that? Like that's a go.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I don't know what the hell I'm about to do,
but like it's nerve wracking as hell.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Play your guitar, man, dude.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
The first the first arena is the Pacers Arena in Indiana,
the Patriots Pacers.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh the Pacers. Oh yeah, I forget what they used
to call that when I was a kid, the House
of something house but yeah, that's joke. The Pacers. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
But are you a Panthers fan? Yeah, the whole I'm
a Steelers fan, but the Panthers are why. I mean,
I'd rather my Panthers fan. My dad's got Steeler's tattooed on,
he's got.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
No, you're not a You're not a Panthers fan.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You're a steelersh Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I just grew up like shit, being like Troy palm Molo.
That was like one of my Yeah, why would you
be a Panthers fan if you didn't have to be
right like your dad? Your dad gave you the out
at birth.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Imagine rooting for Jake
Delane as a grade schooler.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't really watch sports though, so it's just like, shit,
whoever winning.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Bryce Young, He's like, you're taller than him. That's your
starting quarterback in North Carolina. You don't even know Bryce
any Hell, I'm crazy. Yeah, you're not even a football fan. No,
God bless you. Well. Listen, man, I appreciate you pulling
up people go streaming. Shit it what's a Little Wayne
tour start? H February twenty seventh is the first that's
like in a week. Yeah, it's next week. Are you
like rehearsing? Yeah? I got it.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's why I'm leaving a here. Uh in today?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Are you gonna play the guitar on stage? Probably? I'll
probably end up doing that. I feel like that's your
easy way into the Little Wayne crowd because they'll appreciate
that if you're just up there like singing over your
track and shit.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oh yeah, god no, all all all our tracks, Like
we have specific tracks for shows that have less vocals
in them, so it's like my lead is present and
then oddly harmonies and stuff in so it still feels full.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
But like, I want people to hear my voice live.
That's kind of what you pay to see. Can we
hear you do something for us? What do you mean
you want to do? Like? Do it? I don't know,
fucking sing a song or something. Bro, Sure, pretend like
you're in front of a bunch of pacers fans. Little
Wayne's going to be closing out the show and you
got to impress them. Damn, I ain't know what to sing.
Sing something bro, no music, A cappella, dog acapella. Damn.
(35:27):
I'm trying to think what you want to hear? What
you be listening to? Oh if I would listen to
anything dog? Oh that's crazy. I'm very musically. I mean
I'm I'm pretty much It's like eighty percent hip hop
for sure, but you know, I'm pretty musically eclectic outside
of the eighty percent of boom back boom Back drug
rap I listened to. I was about to say it. Damn.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I feel like I should just sing some country. Even
talking about countries.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I do like country. You like country? I like, what
is that? What's your favorite country song? Oh? Damn, that's
a good question.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Probably probably Do you know any Garth Brooks? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
do some Garth Brooks. I know Garth Brooks. Uh, blame
it all on my root. I showed up in boots
and ruin your black tie. Yeah, last one new, last
one the show. I was the last one you thought
(36:17):
you'd see there.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Such a good song, dude, what are you me? I
got friends and low? Do you think that song is
like white people's Like what dude? I made so much
money and dreams and nightmares? Oh ship, I guess yeah,
that's like the redneck drink. That's like that's bartender by
rehab bartender. I really did you ship going to the
bar and play you know what else? Is a funk?
(36:40):
What's that? Uh? Uh? Sweet Caroline? Is the white people's
Oh yeah, ye, sweet Caroline? You play that in a
fucking bar anywhere where there's Yeah, you sing all of
it or Garth Brooks or Garth Brooks, Garth Brooks is
the country. Garth Brooks is the country. Crowded.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I feel like sweet Carolines everybody for everybody in the im.
Was gonna see any song.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
If it comes on. Yeah, that's facts. Well listen, man,
I appreciate you pulling up with your.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Instagram Anela any l l A. Yes, appreciate you man, Yes, sir,
thank you. Good luck on everything, good luck on tour, yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
How many dates? Five? Five is all you need? Yeah? Man, Hey,
you're gonna hang out with little wind sip some scissor
ship if he passes you the double cup, but you're
taking a sip, hell just to see what's in there.
Hell no, I'll look at it. I'll take it with
like what so are you using shit? Non water? Healthy guy?
He doesn't want to get fat. Again, Appreciate your buddy, yes, sir.
(37:32):
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