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August 4, 2025 • 39 mins

Erin and Sara Foster have their fingerprints on many creative projects and investments. Today on the Bright Side, we discuss everything in their orbit, from their clothing line Favorite Daughter, their new breastfeeding initiative with Nara Organics, and, last but not least, season two of their hit Netflix Series Nobody Wants This. Erin and Sara also talk about how they handle the sibling-meets-business-partner dynamic, and why they think portraying healthy relationships should be the new rom-com standard.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Today on the bright Side, It's the show everyone wants
to talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Nobody wants this.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Aaron and Sarah Foster spill the tea on the upcoming
second season of their hit Netflix series, and we're also
talking about their other creative ventures, including their clothing brand
Favorite Daughter, and a new initiative to help moms feel
less alone on their feeding journeys.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
This was a relationship where we both quit, We've both
walked away, We've both hit a wall with each other.
We're siblings. Like you fight, you disagree. It's really hard
to be in a partnership. You judge, Yeah, you judge,
you judge, you lead differently. There's so many opportunities to
call it and we've gotten to that edge so many times.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm Simone Boyce and this is the bright Side from
Hello Sunshine. Erin and Sarah Foster are some of the
most famous sisters in Hollywood. You might know them from
their hit podcast, The World's First Podcast, or maybe their
fabulous clothing line Favorite Daughter. If you have seen me
at a Hello Sunshine event in the past year, I

(01:02):
was probably wearing Favorite Daughter. Their pieces are impeccable and
you definitely know the Foster sisters from their streaming series
Nobody Wants This. It is a show that truly set
a new bar for the modern rom com and by
all metrics, is a smash hit on Netflix. Just to
illustrate how much of a phenomenon this show has become,

(01:23):
it got a whopping fifty six point eight million views
in twenty twenty four and has a ninety five percent
on Rotten Tomatoes. Obviously because the chemistry between the two leads,
Kristen Bell and Adam Brody is just off the charts.
The way that Aaron writes the dialogue is just so
conversational and relatable, and this is all based on her life,

(01:45):
like it's loosely based on her love story between her
and her husband, and then she brings in some elements
of her sisterly dynamic with Sarah. It truly is a
family affair. What's really cool about this conversation today, guys,
is that this is not my first time talking to
the Foster sisters. So back in twenty nineteen, I actually

(02:05):
brought a camera crew over to Sarah Foster's house and
Aaron was there, and we didn't interview the three of
us in Sarah's living room and I distinctly remember being barefoot.
It was super cozy and just casual and comfortable, and
I think that really speaks to who they are as
humans and the way that they make people feel, because

(02:27):
they made me feel so at ease and so comfortable
and like I belonged. They just have this down to
earth energy about them, but of course there's also a
great deal of power about them too. It's been really
rewarding to witness how they've built all of this success.

(02:50):
I mean, between their clothing line, Favorite Daughter, their show
Nobody Wants This, they truly are a testament to just
tenacity and never giving up. And at the end of
the day, they still are the no makeup, sweats only
down to Earth's sister duo that we all want to
hang out with because no matter what they're doing, they're

(03:11):
still cutting each other off. They're finishing each other's sentences
and making us laugh the whole time. So, whether this
is your first time properly getting to know the Foster
sisters or your longtime fans, either way, get ready to
be charmed by Aaron and Sarah Foster. Welcome to the

(03:31):
bright Side. Erin and Sarah.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Foster, Thank you, Thank you, I don't.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Know if you remember this, but I interviewed you both
in twenty nineteen. I want to say, were we at
Sarah's house?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
We did like an intervac NBC.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh my god, I remember this.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
I came there. I swear to god, I remember going.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I remember thinking like, oh god, we look so pretty
in those videos and photos, like we got really good LINEBC.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I knew it, That's what it was.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, I remember being barefoot on your living room floor,
which was extremely comfortable for me, and I loved that.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
But so much has changed since twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, Aarin, you got married, you're a mom. Now
you wrote an award winning show Nobody Wants this. Sarah,
you produced it as well. Aarin, I love this quote
of yours from an interview you said, Sarah and I
are always big fans of leaning towards the thing that
you're avoiding and you're scared of. So what has been
the scariest thing about making this show together and what's

(04:29):
been the most rewarding part of it?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I mean, the scariest thing is really just putting your
work out there on such a large scale. When you're
in something you have no idea how it's going to
be received right, Like, especially with the internet, you know
how quick the internet moves these days. You don't know
what the thing is that people might grab onto and
decide is offensive, is hurtful, is misrepresentative. It's scary putting

(04:55):
yourself out there, especially when it's something you really care
about and something that you hope is your passion in
life and you want people to like it.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
All of it's scary.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
I think it's also it really falls in line with
that common conversation we always have, like about imposter syndrome.
I think the show came out of an overall deal
that we had at twentieth, which means a big, big,
big conglomerate, a big company pays you money to basically
deliver the goods. And I think it was at a

(05:25):
time when Aaron was going, am I a good writer?
And I'm going do I know how to produce something?
Do I not even know how to get something made?
Like I'm not a producer? Aaron's like, am I a right?

Speaker 3 (05:35):
You know?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I mean Aaron was definitely more of a writer than
I was a producer.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
But you know, people rely on you, People have maybe
sometimes higher expectations for you than you have for yourself.
But that was just one of like many many things
we were pitching, many many things that we were trying
to get off the ground.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
And you kind of you start to identify yourself more
with the failures than anything. You know, it's like, Okay,
well and won't get picked up, or I'll write this
but people won't like it or won't get made, or
you just start to get used to that run around.
And you know, I'm sure you experience it too, Like
you get a project off the ground, you have something
you're excited about, you're just sort of used to it
not happening, so that becomes the noise. Phot So when

(06:17):
something happens, you're shocked, and then when something happens and
it works, you're even more shocked.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
That's such a good point.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
This business is just fill of unexpected twists and turns,
you know. I mean, we were shocked when Barely Famous
got canceled. We were shocked when nobody wanted to bring
it back. We were shocked when no one wanted to
buy other projects that we've had, And then we were
shocked I think when well, I think Aaron was more
shocked that Nobody Wants Us was as big of a hit.

(06:46):
She was so in it as the creator that I
went home one night and I watched all ten episodes
in one sitting, you know, in the edit, and I
went to set the next day and I was.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Like, you guys, this show work. Yeah, You're like, really works.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
So and everyone's kind of looking at me like okay, girl.
I was like, no, this show really works.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
So this idea of relating to your failures more than
the successes is so real. And everything you're saying about
just the vulnerability that it takes to make a project
and have it be so closely mirroring your own life
like that is I think that's so brave Aarin, the
fact that this does so closely mirror your life. What

(07:27):
was that like, just opening yourself up to the world
in that way. Did you have any problems bearing your
soul and your own life experiences?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, of course there are certain things that I would
want to put in the show. My husband would be like,
can you please just save some things, you know, to
be private. But Joanne and Noah's journey is really different
than my husband and ies. It's interesting because to be
you don't have to but most writers pull from and
draw from their own personal experiences, you know, but most
people in the world think that their life is interesting.

(07:58):
Most people are like, oh my god, the craziest thing
happened to me, or you got to write a show
about my life, or you're not going to believe what
happens in my office or what my family's crazy. You know,
everyone sort of thinks that their unique perspective is interesting.
And so it's finding the thing that you think is
interesting about your life, because we're all kind of narcissists
and think everything happens to us is interesting. But what's

(08:21):
the story that you have that is also relatable and
connects for millions of other people. That's where the gap is.
And I've, by the way, written things before that clearly
didn't resonate for more people other than myself. And so
it was finding the story in my unique experience that
actually other people would see their experience in too. And
so while it has this very specific Jewish non Jewish

(08:44):
Rabbi Shisa dynamic within that, it's really just dating when
you're older. It's meeting someone who comes from a different
background in a different world, but wanting to make it
work it's navigating those sort of small deal tales that
come up in a relationship that feel really big and hard.
It's having your walls up and figuring out how to

(09:07):
bring them down for the right person because you've always
been taught you can't trust anyone, and now it's hard
to trust somebody who's trustworthy. And I think that a
lot of us go through that, you know. I mean,
I didn't meet my husband until I was almost thirty
six years old. I had really been out there trying
to figure out what was going wrong in my dating life.
And I have so many women in my life who

(09:27):
some of them are still going through that, and so
just finding the story that felt like it could resonate
for other women is something that's really important to me.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
How did you know it was right with your husband?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think that, I mean, really and truly, it was
this feeling that I could really be myself. And I
don't know if you ever experienced this, but like whenever
I was on a date or dating someone, I was
very aware of myself and aware of the things I
was saying and the choices that I was making. If
somebody asked me what books I read or what music
I listened to or what I like to do on
the weekend. It was like every answer was crafted to

(10:00):
what I thought that person wanted to hear. I wasn't
trying to be fake. I was just trying to be likable.
I was trying to be lovable, Like what do I
think this person wants to hear? Like what do I
have to say? Do seem interesting? And when I met Simon,
I just wasn't doing that. I just felt like I
was finally relaxed and I didn't feel judged by him,
and I didn't feel like there was something that I

(10:21):
could say that would be wrong. And that's what really
made me feel like, you can't do anything wrong with
the right person. You know, even if you say something
that they don't like, it doesn't change how they feel
about you. And that was really relaxing.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, So Sarah, give me the details. Where does this
show deviate from reality from your perspective and where does
it feel more accurate?

Speaker 5 (10:43):
I mean, look, her voice that resonates the most with
the viewer is the one that she pulls from our
real life. So look, she can crush a sister dynamic.
She understands the concept of your sister being like your
best friend and your worst enemy, that whole thing like
I can say whatever I want to my sister, but
if you say something about her, like I'll knock you out.

(11:05):
And it's such a real, real sister dynamic. So of
course Joanne and Morgan, Yes, I would say our base
sort of off of us at the core, but then
like all the nuances and they're very different. Right, because
Aaron and I aren't interesting enough to be a captivating

(11:26):
ten episode show, you wouldn't want to.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Watch us because the real US truly is quite boring.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I think it's the dynamic I pull from real life,
but you take it and think, like, oh, it would
be really interesting if when I met Simon and I
finally felt like I found that healthy person, if Sarah
didn't like that person, or if Sarah felt like it
was threatening to where she was at in her life.
Because sometimes, you know, you take something in real life
and then you pull from like a friendship dynamic that
you've seen, or you see two people who have an

(11:53):
interesting dynamic and you go, that's interesting to me. I
think it's interesting as women sometimes is we compare ourselves
so much to each other that if one person gets
further ahead than we are when we're still kind of
stuck in our shit, it's really hard to let them
move past us without kind of feeling that instinct of

(12:14):
like souring it. And I think with sisters, when you're
close and similar in age, you get compared to each
other all the time. It's like it can be challenging
when one person outgrows the other, And so I think
that's interesting to watch. So when Joanne and Morgan are
both like, you know, we don't believe in love and

(12:35):
we're cynical and we don't think it's going to work
out for us, and we don't even care, and then
one person decides to start believing, I think that's really
interesting to watch what happens to the relationship.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Also, you know, it's Hollywood, right like the end of
the day, it's a business.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
It's a TV show.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
So you take our life, but you got to add
like more stakes in order to sustain an episode, you know,
a season arc that's going to captivate you, make you
lie and make you feel and make you all those things. Yeah,
writing Noah as just Simon as just like a businessman,
nice guy, you know, there aren't enough stakes in that
so of course making him a rabbi, that adds so

(13:13):
much tension.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
It's for a TV show, so you take little.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Pieces from your life, but then you have to you
got to do your movie magic to make it actually
something that people want to watch.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's the best of both worlds because you get to
pull from truth, but also you don't have to put
all your truth out there. You get to like have
some fun with it. The show's a hit. Now there's
a lot of expectation around the next season. What has
been your biggest lesson in navigating opinions from all these
different sources, Because now you've got opinions from the audience,
You've got opinions from you know, your stakeholders, the studio, investors,

(13:46):
even the cast. I'm sure the cast has opinions about
where they want to see their characters go. I'd love
to hear from both of you from a produceial as
well as a writerly perspective on this.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I see it as helpful, you know, because you get
to have this litmus test of what's working in the show.
I watched all the tiktoks, I scoured the internet for
infant Wow. Really, oh yeah, I really was curious of
which themes were standing out to people, and it really
felt like this healthy love being like sexy again or
maybe for the first time. I don't know if it's
ever been sexy, but it should be. That as a

(14:17):
theme really stood out to people. And I really liked
that it was this like positive reinforcement. It was not
a fairy tale love story about getting like the toxic
guy to finally choose you, and I really felt like, okay,
let's lean into that. I also really found that taking
the story really slowly. You know, a lot of first
seasons of a show, they're like, you know, engaged at

(14:38):
the end of the season one, and we moved really
slow with this love story. You know, we kind of
stayed in real time. You get first date, you get
first kissed, and so that was a really good indicator
that said season two should be the same thing. So
we kind of pick up where we left off, and
if that was the first few weeks of meeting someone,
this is like the next few months of dating each
other and what that looks like, and then you know,

(15:00):
obviously negativity is there too. Our show was lucky that
we didn't get a ton of backlash. It felt like
because the story is positive. People seem to have nice
things to say, which is great, but you know, I
do get riled up by the negativity sometimes when I
feel the need to like defend the show and defend myself,
and I try not to do it too much because

(15:20):
I do think that it's really just the fringe, and
the fringe tends to be the loudest.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I mean, I feel like the overall consensus was like
people were just obsessed with this, will they won't they like,
that's the thing, right, Like, as women, as people, it's
just intoxicating.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
You love watching.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
It because it's just so real.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
You want to be able to sustain that for as
many seasons, but you also have to, like, you know,
marry them off eventually. I don't know, No, I think
you'll marry them off.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Aarin, Well, I don't even know if they're staying together, Sarah,
you know what I mean. But I would say that
the Morgan Sasha dynamic, the fans kind of weigh in
the most on and we really were able to see
how people feel about it and and that kind of
helped inform decisions that we made, and also the actors,
you know, you get to see what the actors are

(16:07):
great at, like the type of comedy that they really
excel at, the type of scenes that they do really well,
and who does best in scenes with which other actor.
We took all that into account, but then you have
to kind of take it all, put it in the
back of your mind and then just tell the stories
that you want to tell and hope that it works.
And I really do feel very good about it. Like
when I'm watching the edits, I'm like, I think we

(16:28):
did it again.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
A lot more incoming calls, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 5 (16:30):
From season one to season two love the show, would
love to be on the show.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
So you have calls from actors or their reps who
are trying to get.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
On the show.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, that happens.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's got to be the best feeling, especially after like
kind of just working so hard behind the scenes to
feel validated and for people to take your work seriously
and then to have incoming calls, that's got to be
the best.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
There's nothing better. You know. LA is a very tricky
talent to live in, and we've lived our whole lives
and it definitely feels like every interaction you have with
anyone they're sort of sizing you up, like how important
are you to talk to you right now? Are you?
Should I waste my time on you? Should I give
you five minutes of my time? Are you? Can you
do anything for me? It's very it can be really transactional,

(17:17):
and I think it's a It can make you feel small,
and it can make you feel insignificant. It can make
you feel like you're not relevant, and you really feel
the shift. You feel the shift in how people interact
with you when they think that you are valuable to them.
And it's interesting what changes how people treat you?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Wait, tell me everything about this, So would you say
that before nobody wants this, you could feel people kind
of sizing you up or putting you in a certain box.
And then now, how are people treating you differently now?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I mean, I think it's really just in connection with
the TV show in the sense that my writing career
was kind of on the back burner, focusing on favorite daughter,
which is also doing really well. So that kind of,
you know, helps give you some cloud as well. But
I was leaning on parts of my career that hadn't
been intended to be my career. So when I wanted

(18:11):
validation as a writer and as a TV producer. I
don't think that that was really there as much as
I want it to be, so I yeah, I definitely
feel a difference. You can. You get meetings with different
kinds of people and you know, you're treated like it's
like every every everyone's always chasing what the last hit
or trend was, and we were doing the same thing. Right,
Everyone's like, Okay, everyone wants a feel good show when

(18:32):
Ted Lasso hits, or everyone wants an office comedy when
the office is hitting, or everybody wants multigenerational comedy. And
you're just chasing, chasing, and it's very interesting being the
show that is now like Oka, everybody wants rom comms
and and that's so cool, you know. But then you
get to be in that in that position you've never
been in before, setting the tone instead of chasing in.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
So real question are you petty or are you healed?
When people who once reject did you come back around
and want to want to.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Like a good question, that's such a good question. I
would say it's a fine line.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
So I would say air on petty.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Okay, Okay, I lean towards petty for sure, but What
happens is I look at that person and think, this
is a transactional relationship now, right. You didn't talk to me,
then you talk to me now, so I will do
the same for you. If there's something you can give me,
that you can offer me, you could help me with,
then this is now a transactional relationship. And I'm happy

(19:36):
to like have a friendly transactional relationship. But I know
that if I get a bad diagnosis tomorrow, you are
not going to come in, and that's okay.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
So I just know where to place people.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
I focus more on the people that have always been there.
It highlights those people for me, Like I think about
certain people who are really fancy and who have really
fancy friends and really powerful friends, and who have kind
of always been my friend. And instead of being like,
oh screw that person, like all of a sudden, now
they want to hang out, I'm more I'm like, so

(20:10):
even more endeared.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
You're like, it's cool that person was friends with me
when I was a loser.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
We've got to take a short break, but we'll be
right back with Aaron and Sarah Foster. We're back with
Aaron and Sarah Foster. What's the thing you're most proud
of as sisters on this journey.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
I guess like that we've really stuck it out, you know,
like we started doing things together. It's been eleven years,
it's like kind of a long time, and that we've
found a way to have totally different skill sets in
a lot of ways, but to create an ecosystem of
so many things together.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I don't know a lot of people doing that.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
I know a lot of people crushing who have who
do the same thing, But Aaron and I don't do
the same thing. Contrary to what people think.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
What would you say each one of you is good at.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
I'm good at making money. I am a capitalist.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
I'm good at finding ways to monetize everything. I'm good
Where Aaron will be like, oh, I have my typewriter
and I have this idea for a show. I'm like, well,
no one's going to buy that show, so I'm going
to go and do things and put things in place
so that people buy the show. Right, and then Aaron
goes in makes the show, or you know, at favorite Daughter.

(21:25):
I'm on Shopify all day long figuring out all the
things that people are gravitating to, the things that aren't
selling Aaron's business brain too, but she just it's just different,
you know. And I'm creative too, but it's just different.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
And I think also when one person has a strength
in that area, the other person tends to pull back.
You know. It's like in a marriage. It's like if
one person is always holding the passports, then you kind
of just get up and go to the airport and
don't really think about the passports. Right if that person
wasn't doing it, you might be more responsible at the airport.
You just sort of fall into that dynamic easily. I
would say what I'm most proud of is really similar

(21:58):
to Sarah, but a little different, Like the way that
we've grown in our relationship. You know, this was a
toxic relationship at times. This was a relationship where we
we've both quit, we've both walked away, we've both you know,
hit a wall with each other. We were siblings, like
you fight, you disagree. It's really hard to be in
a judge you judge each other, you you lead differently.

(22:21):
You it's just there's so many opportunities to call it.
And we've gotten to that edge so many times, and
now we're we're at a point where we don't really
get there anymore, and that is something I'm proud of.
I want this to be a healthy relationship where we
thrive together, not where we're like surviving it together.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
What was the change?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Do you think we also have contracts?

Speaker 5 (22:42):
You know, before it was sort of like we were
just flying by the seat of our own pants. You know,
nothing was actually binding us together.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Like like a real marriage. Now it's you know, there
will be.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Lawsuits now to give you to give you a real answer.
I think that the change is getting older and getting
you know, better apologizing and better at pausing instead of reacting.
And it's all the things you learn in marriage counseling.
It's like how we speak to each other and communicating better,

(23:11):
and you know, allowing the other one to be different
than we are and see it differently and not trying
to change who they are and change.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
How they feel.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Those are all things that it's taken us a lifetime
to learn.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Outside of your TV and film projects, you also have
a podcast, and you have your clothing line, Favorite Daughter,
which I have to just give favorite Daughter her flowers
for a second, and both of you.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I am obsessed.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Most of my work outfits that people compliment me on
our Favorite Daughter. I'm a tall girly. I'm six feet tall,
and it's always so hard for me to find.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
You are six feet six feet tall. Honey, Yes, Simone,
you're gorgeous and six feet tall. We need to send
you one else.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh my gosh, that's so sweet.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Well, I just I genuinely wanted to say, I love
what you're doing with Favorite Daughter for whatever reason. The
height that you're working with, the enn seams that y'all
are playing with over there, they are working for me.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
So keep it up.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Oh funny, I just love it funny.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
So I think I know what.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think you do really well at Favorite Daughter, But
I'd love to hear from you, like, what do you
think is your specialty?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
What do you do really well?

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Oh wow, I think we're giving our girl like we
all want to look put together and chic and like
we're like we've put thought into what we're wearing, right,
like what we wear to the office, what we wear
to meetings, how we present ourselves matters.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
And I think it's interesting coming from us.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Right now, they're both wearing sweat pants, and I think
you present yourself matters.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
Well, I'm wearing a favorite daughter sweatshirt.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Oh god, it's really funny.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
That is really funny.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
We're ridiculous. No, I our Denham is like the greatest.
I do not own any other brands of Dunham now
because we make it top to bottom, short, long, wide leg,
skinny leg, highways, low wais, darkwash, lightwash, all the things
stretched rigid.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
I love all over to them.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Also, it's like we we really prioritize tailoring. We really
prioritize making you feel like you're, you know, wearing a
piece that costs way more than you've just paid.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
And that's the special sauce.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
We sit there and we tailor our pieces. These are
not just straight cuts that you're gonna find it, you know,
Banana Republic, no shade to Banana Republic, but like shots fired.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
I know.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
So that that is.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
I think why we're winning, honestly, is because we are
giving you tailored pieces with quality fabrics at a.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Good part and enduring quality.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Because I will wear my favorite daughter pieces over and
over again.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
All right, well, you're gonna pick out an outfit and
we're gonna send it to you.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Okay, we'll be right back with Aaron and Sarah Foster.
We're back with Aaron and Sarah Foster. Okay, I also
want to talk about mother since we are all on
our motherhood journeys now in varying phases. One of the
things that I think your community loves so much about

(26:09):
both of you is the way that you are intentional
about reducing stigmas around topics that are just hard to
talk about. And I know that IVF and formula feeding
just feeding in general have been two of those conversations
for you. Can you tell us a little bit about
the two Am Club?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, so we invested it in a company called Nara.
It's a new organic USDA organic whole milk formula that
is from the same company that makes the Nara app
which helps you track breastfeeding and bottle feeding and all
that that I used as well. And they created this
thing called the two Am Club. It's essentially moms like

(26:51):
kind of confessing what they were doing at two am,
their thoughts at two am, a truth behind breastfeeding or
bottle feeding. I think that a lot of mom feel
like they have these like guilty admissions that they don't
want to share about failures they had as a mom,
or choices that they made because you're so scared of
other people judging you, and it's people just opening up

(27:15):
and admitting something that you know might make another mom
feel less alone.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
It's really like destigmatizing the emotional the reality of feeding,
whatever it is, breastfeeding, bottle feeding, whatever it is. It's like,
this is our most vulnerable time as women. This the
early stages of motherhood. And listen, I breastfeeding was really

(27:42):
freaking easy for me, and I had no concept because
I was a young mom.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I was a young, first time mom, and it was
how are you for twenty nine?

Speaker 5 (27:51):
And I mean I was like young for none of
my friends really had kids. I mean one or two
of them did, but it came really easy to me.
And not until all my friends started having kids did
I realize it doesn't come easy for most people. I
just didn't realize when your baby can latch, when your

(28:11):
baby you are so lucky, it's really hard for a
lot of women, and you're exhausted and you feel like
you're going crazy. I mean, you know, I know how
I feel when I've just sleep deprived, right like without
even having to take care of another human, when I'm
just tired, and then you factor in having to do
all the things for your.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
Baby, and it's like, look, it's what you do, you know.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
It's like anyone that thinks are just going to become
a mom and like, oh, it's just my life isn't
going to change, Well, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
It's supposed to be hard, it's supposed to be life changing.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
But yeah, we're all at it together.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
So I think what Nara is doing is really cool
and I want to get this right, but I think
Nara is the first of its kind in like fifty
years or something to be FDA approve.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
It's not white labeled. A lot of formula gets white labeled.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
This is not that.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
This is this is it's very different.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
It's the first and only FDA registered and USDA certified
organic whole milk in phantomenula using no skim milk, and
it meets both European and US food safety standards, and
the European standards are obviously way higher than the US.
It's really remarkable what they're doing. And you know, for
us as moms. I mean, when we invested in the company,

(29:21):
I wasn't a mom yet, but I was obsessed with clean,
healthy living and was trying to have a baby, and
I knew how important it was going to be to
me to give my baby something that is as clean
as possible. And of course breast milk is best, and
I breastfed. I had a much harder time than Sarah.
I had to have someone come and help me. My
daughter had she was born with a tongue tie and

(29:44):
a lip tie. We had to get them fixed. She
couldn't figure it out. I mean, nothing was working. I
got mestitis like eight times.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
It was just.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Really, really hard. But we stuck with it. I tried
so hard. I worked, work, work, work, worked, and we
figured it out. But she wouldn't feed at night, like sorry,
she wouldn't like breastfeed at night because she was so tired.
She couldn't figure it out. So we had to bottle feed,
and we had the system, you know. I'd get up
every three hours, I'd pump, I'd go to the kitchen,
I'd leave the bottle there, they'd grab the bottle, put
the bottle. It is the whole system. And then at

(30:13):
five months, I went back to work full time in
the writer's room for season two, and I was committed,
like I'm going to continue breastfeeding until she's a year.
And I was pumping in the writer's room and handing
the milk off in an uber to go home, and
it just got so hard. And I had just hired
my first ever in nanny, and she was like, I'm

(30:35):
not getting enough milk for her, Like she doesn't she
needs more, And I had to make the decision to
start giving her formula. And it I think so many
things as a mom. You have an idea in your
mind of this is what I'm going to do, and
then you're in it and it's just so different than
you thought it would be, and you just want your

(30:55):
kid to be fed. And so unfortunately, for most people,
the easiest thing that they can grab for is a
formula that has a lot of things in it that
I wouldn't be comfortable giving my child, and I'm not
comfortable knowing other people's kids are having it.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I can remember in twenty twenty one there was a
formula shortage and there was really, i mean, just did
not have a lot of options. And I can remember
being in kind of a similar position Aaron, where I
was trying my best to breastfeed. I was going on
a friend's bachelorette party to Mexico, and I was like

(31:32):
pumping while I was there and like brought the cooler
and brought it back in the ice. And then I
got back home and I was just like what am
I doing?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
This is just too much.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
And so then I remember making that decision of like, oh, yeah,
I'm going to switch the formula, which that in and
of itself like wrapping your head around that and all
the stigma that comes with that. That's a whole decision.
And then just trying to find formula at that time
was so hard. So I'm so grateful that there are
companies now we're seeing a lot more start up who
are actually providing more alternatives for moms.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Also, I have two kids.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
My first daughter only breastfed breastfeder till she was two
and a half. My second daughter started feeding her giving
her formula at four months because we were shooting our
show and I just couldn't keep up with the supply,
and I was ordering her formula from Europe, okay, which
was the biggest pain in the ass.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
It would be delayed, it was so expensive, it.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Was so annoying couldn't get it here because I wanted
to give her the best ingredients, and guess what, my
second daughter, who was formula fed, is going to be
probably a professional athlete.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
She's gonna be six foot tall.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
She's the healthiest, she is the most perfect. It's like,
we gotta just just give ourselves a little bit of
a break here because we have.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
This thing in our mind like, oh god, we're you know,
our kid isn't going to be as healthy or as strong,
or as smart or it.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Is just like it's not true.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Completely agree.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Oh sorry.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
One other thing I want to say is that we
also invested in a company called Kudos, and they make
the only diaper where the only thing touching your child's
body is cotton instead of plastic, because plastic is inevitable
in diapers. It's how you keep the fluids in. But
it's the only diaper that doesn't have And my daughter's
just over over one years old, and it's crazy how

(33:20):
much of their life they live in a diaper. It's
the entire life. It is twenty four to seven. I
think all the time, like I'm just gonna let her
walk around free. And we live in an apartment. There's
no outdoor space here like we did at one time.
And obviously there was poop on the floor and it
was chaos, and she stepped in it and it was
just like, oh my god, I can never do this again.
And so they're always living in their diaper, and it's
important that they don't have plastic touching them at all

(33:42):
times and sleeping in that. And so Kudos is another
company we're really really proud to be investors in. Who
are you know? It's available at Target, you can get
them anywhere, and it's only cotton touching your baby's bottom,
So good to know.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
The next and final part of this conversation, I'm sure
you guys are familiar with these that this point, but
we wanted to play a little game of most likely
to Nobody wants this edition, so I'm gonna ask you
who is most likely to and then you just give
me the t you give me the truth. Who is
most likely to bring home a lost dog?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Sarah?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Who is more likely to peak in the X box?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
You mean look back at an X Yeah, to peek
in like the box of like.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
X oh oh of testing.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Sarah?

Speaker 6 (34:31):
Maybe maybe me? Yeah, even though like no.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Not really, but I think honestly we're both like really
for like we're like looking forward with.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Okay, so you're more likely to go forward rather than
look back. I think so, yeah, who's more likely to
get the ick first?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Me?

Speaker 4 (34:47):
I'm very picky?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Okay, So the ick was that based off of a
real life situation.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
It was based on a real experience getting the ick
with Simon, but it wasn't over that exact thing, but.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
It was he was the first person ever pull himself
out of the ick.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
He just like looked at me and was like, you
need to get over yourself because whatever this is, like
it's not working for you.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Like that's what I know.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
He handled yourck.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Well, yeah I got the ick and he was like,
you need to grow up.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
That's actually a major green flag somebody telling you you
need to grow totally huge green flash. Okay, who is
who's more likely to start a fight between the two
of you?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Aaron, I don't think it's me.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
I think it's Sarah sounded pretty convinced about the fight,
but I don't confuse her confidence with grissy. Okay, who
is more likely to give good advice to their niece?

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Me?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Who's more likely to do shots at a basketball game?

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Sarah? Aaron doesn't know anything about sports.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
No, I think she means alcohol shots.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Oh yeah, me.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
But the person more likely to be at that basketball
game of Sarah.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah. And finally, who is more likely to win over
someone who doesn't like them? May?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I think it weirdly is Sarah because she loves the challenge.
Whereas so, if somebody doesn't like me, I'm like, great,
you're dead to me. If someone doesn't like Sarah.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
She's like, yes, if someone doesn't like Aaron, they're gonna
probably no coming back from there.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I'm a one and done. You got one chance.
I'm pretty likable. If you don't like me, then that's
on you. We're done.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Everyone likes me, everyone likes me.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I see only green flags here. I can't thank you, simone. Yeah,
I can't get behind any any Aaron or Sarah hate.
And I feel like I'm seeing Sarah's business brain come
out with that one, because you know you're keeping the
relationships in mind, you know the business Yeah, the business brain.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Leally rights one. I'm ready to burn any bridge. I'm
ready to burn any bridge. I'm like, I'll take it
all down. I'll burn the alburn any house down, drop
drop the match wherever I am Sarah's like, Aaron, think
about our future.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah, yeah, Thank you so much, both of you. This
brings me to the end of our conversation. I just
wanted to say that it's so cool to have spent
some time with you in such an intimate space like
your home, and then you know, just meeting you, both
of you and hearing at the time, this was about
five years ago that you had some writing projects that

(37:11):
you were working on, you had some producing projects that
you were working on, but it was definitely still in
the more in the earlier stages. And now to just
see your tenacity and your grit and how you've just
kept going. You're crushing it and I'm so happy for you.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Thank you so much. So nice to see you again.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
So nice to see you too, Thank you, Thank you
so much. This has been really fun. Aaron and Sarah
Foster are the co hosts of the podcast The World's
First Podcast. They're co creators of the clothing brand Favorite Daughter,
and producers of the hit Netflix series Nobody Wants This
Season two is out October twenty third big announcement here,

(37:51):
I am so excited to share shine Away is back
this October eleventh and twelfth in Los Angeles. If you've
been before, you know it's Hell of Sunshine's incredible weekend
of connection, joy and community. And if you haven't, well,
this is the year to come. Throughout the day, you'll
experience thoughtful panels, fireside chats, workshops, and immersive activations surrounded

(38:13):
by voices that are shaping culture and shifting conversations. Whether
you're a longtime listener or just joining us, this is
your chance to be part of a truly.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Special and memorable weekend.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Tickets are selling fast, so head to Hellosunshine dot com
slash shine Away to grab yours. The bright Side is
a production of Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts and is
executive produced by Reese Witherspoon and me Simone Boyce. Production
is by a Cast Creative Studios. Our producers are Taylor Williamson,
Adrian Bain, Abby Delk, and Darby Masters. Our production assistant

(38:46):
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Emily Rudder. Maureen Polo and Reese Witherspoon are the executive
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