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May 29, 2024 21 mins
In this episode, Buck Sexton is joined by Caitlin Sinclair, former One America News Now journalist and current MAGA Inc. representative. Together, they delve into the latest from Trump, the 2024 election campaign, and the shifting political landscape. Caitlin shares insights from her grassroots efforts with MAGA Pac, highlighting the changing attitudes among traditionally Democratic demographics and the impact of key issues like crime and education.

They discuss the strategy to connect with younger voters through platforms like TikTok, despite political challenges. Caitlin sheds light on the contrasts between current policies and those of the Trump administration, emphasizing the importance of clear, relatable messaging. Buck and Caitlin also tackle the implications of President Biden's performance and the upcoming election debates. They explore the potential outcomes of the Trump trials and the broader political climate.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to the
Buck Brief. On this episode, first time, Caitlyn Sinclair joins us.
She is formerly of One American News, now with MAGA
inc MAGA Incorporated, which is very cool. So you're gonna

(00:33):
tell us about all things Trump world, the campaign, the election,
the future of the country, all that good stuff. Caitlin,
Good to see you.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Good to see you too, Buck. Maga pack has been
hitting the road hardcore.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Our main mission is, of course, to ensure that there
is a second Trump administration. And I really think we're
hearing from I'm based in New York. I have noticed
such a drastic shift Buck in and just the past
year alone. When we do these men on the Street interviews,
you have these Upper East Side moms that are now
so worried Buck about their kids being safe, what their

(01:11):
kids are learning in school, crime overall in the city.
And I think when you get the mama bear's upset
is where you might see a change. So we're really
excited seeing massive numbers in the polls. Of course, and
we're seeing that message start to shift across the country.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
So you're part of the effort to reach out to
younger people, really what eighteen to twenty five, eighteen to
thirty in that range and bring the message of MAGA
to them. What is that like?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's been pretty incredible, I believe it or not.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
The main platform is TikTok, which I, as.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
A millennial, believe it or not, I'm not familiar with.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
So it's been a little bit of a learning curve.
But we're trying to put the message out there. As
far as just simple numbers book just comparing, for example,
groceries what there are right now under Sleepy Joe what
they were under the Trump administrative student debt, the lies
this administration has about covering student debt, and just the

(02:13):
everyday issues that seem to matter more to the younger generation,
these younger generations, and encouraging them to get out and
vote because a lot of my peers and contemporaries don't
have faith in the election system anymore, which is so sad.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I mean, who would have thought that a.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Time would exist in this country where people say, oh,
I don't actually believe my vote talent, So I'm not
getting out to vote, so really also just encouraging them
that your vote does matter and we all need to
be in this together.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So getting those messages out there.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
TikTok is the number one platform for that, and Joe
Biden wants to ban that platform. So Donald Trump wants
to save TikTok. So that's a number one message as well.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, so what is the Trump plan for TikTok? I mean,
that's one thing. You know, I have been opposed to
the outright ban of TikTok from the very beginning. Very
few people on the right have been as consistent of
this one. I have learned some amazing things about how
to really perfectly sear my stakes. There's a guy who
I wouldn't say has taught me how to make my
own bow and arrow, but I've seen him do it

(03:13):
a lot, and that's very cool. Like, there is some good,
a lot of good non political content on TikTok that
I very much enjoy. But so the Trump the Trump play, Yeah,
I mean, TikTok's got a lot of great stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
And you know, even social media, by the way, that's also.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Something that's also It's the Internet, Like there's amazing stuff
and there, and there's there's trash, right, I mean, and
you know, sometimes you're just scrolling around and you find
someone who's looking for a guy in finance who's six '
five blue eyes with a trust fund, which, for those
who don't know, is the TikTok summer anthem. A girl
in her couch said some stuff and now it's been
remixed into a song. I'm sure you hear it everywhere

(03:48):
you go at the clubs.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
But any who, what is Trump going to do about TikTok?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, I think first we have to get the message
out there as far as that he wants to save
this platform. I know, of course your take has been
pretty consistent. I think there's some Republicans coming around to
how detrimental that would be to just remove an entire
platform that carries again that these younger generations, this is

(04:17):
where they're getting their information, This is where they're getting
their news.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
You look at how this app exists.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
In other countries, for example, and we don't have girls
shimmying half naked in their bikinis, we don't have ridiculous
rhetoric being pushed on the platforms in other countries. It's actually,
maybe we can include the how to cook your steak properly.
But it's math, it's reading, it's geography. There's actual, real
factual information on these apps. So I have not spoken

(04:46):
to the campaign myself, but I believe that it's more
about regulating the app as far as Donald Trump's plan
and making sure that the information that's being pushed out
there is actually factual, maybe educational, and I think that
that's probably the best way to save that.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
And what do you think happens in this trial? People
are going to see this before the verdict? Is what
happens and how does that play out? What does it do?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I mean, you're the lawyer here. Is this a real trial? What?
How are we so close.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
To the end of this and we don't even know
what the crime has been? We don't even know what
the crime is.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, but anyone's guess is just this is a gut
This is a gut instant thing. Sinclair. Anyone's guess is
as good as anyone else is. There's only a couple
of options here, So you think it's going to be
not guilty? What do you think is going to happen?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I heard some rumors, I saw some hosts on Twitter
that Secret Service was already coordinating with the criminal jail
cells down here in Manhattan how to put a former
president behind bars. So I'm curious as to those tactics,
but I don't know. I have to say this whole time,
we heard many legal experts waning and saying, we only

(05:59):
need one jer right, So I've kind of been hanging
on to that we only need one person, one sane
person that.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Maybe has one ounce of common sense left.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I know that's so hard to believe right now in
society or hope for So that's all we really need,
and that's what I'm banking on. I think the rest
of the country, coming off of a holiday weekend, especially
you're average person, can't pay attention to this trial and
the numerous other allegations that the former president is facing.
They have bills to worry about, they have food to

(06:29):
put on the table, exit really expensive nowadays, they might
be working more than one job.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
They have kids to feed, kids.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
To take care of, they have just everyday problems, and
it's really hard to keep up with this trial especially,
and just all of the minutia that's going on with
a former president and potentially a future president. So I
think no matter how this ends, your average American is
it's not going to change the way they vote come November.

(06:56):
And if they are paying attention, I think most Americans
are waking up to the fact that this is a
total scam. It's been a witch hunt from the start,
and again won't change the way they vote.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
We're going to come back into what Biden's plan is
here in just a second, so that'll be I was
gonna say, more fun, maybe more scary too, depends on yeah,
something like that. We're gonna get into that in a second.
But are you a coffee.

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(08:04):
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us and subscribe, all right. Joe Biden, there's an article
in Political that says that there is panic among Democrats
at the prospect of Joe Biden actually being the guy.
So what happens is is he just the guy and
they try to pull it out, maybe they cheat, something

(08:26):
like that. What happens.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I think he's the guy. I think he's the guy.
I don't I know. The Michelle Obama theory hasband floated
out there.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I don't buy that. I don't buy that.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I think he's the guy, and I think he's the
guy by design, and I think they want these rumors
circulating again by design, this is all on purpose.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I don't again, he's just the puppet. I don't know
who will be in control this time around.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
We can do some digging and speculation on that, but
I think Biden's the guy, don't. I don't see them
changing that last minute. And I'm looking forward to the
scheduled debate coming up.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
And the debate I was going to ask about that one.
Next is the problem that we have. See, there's a
couple ways looking at this. Right, Biden is going to
show everybody just by the visual. Even Bill Maher said
this reason. The visual of Joe Biden is that he's
just way too old. And I think that that's fair,
that's true. But there's also the expectations piece of this, right,

(09:29):
whereby if he just shows up and doesn't start muttering
into his apple sauce and needs to take a nap
in the middle of the debate, they're going to say, see,
he's sharp as attack and he's just great. So does
it really matter? I mean, do you think if he
just shows up, he shows up and it doesn't make
much difference or can it make a difference.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well, we saw that book right in the State of Delusion,
as I like to call it, the State of the
Union address, where all he did was show up.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
And how sad is it that the bar is set
that low?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
That because our elderly president didn't fall down ten times,
didn't sutterer more than I don't know twenty times and
fall asleep before the event was over, that giving him
a thumbs up. It's like dating nowadays. Back I'm I'm
gonna use that as a silly analogy, but it's.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Like the bar sets so low. Girlfriends are all talking
amongst themselves like, oh yeah, he opened the door for me,
and we're all like, oh my god. It's the same
thing with our president.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
The bar said that low that all he has to
do is just make it through without having more than
ten gaffs and falling asleep, and we think that's considered
a good job. I'm curious as to how former president's
advisors are handling this. I am going to go with
the narrative here that they're advising him to just show
up and let Biden do most of the talking, and

(10:45):
I think that's the best tactic.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think that the idea that Joe Biden is going
to do anything other than just what he always has done,
which is just the talking points kind of aggressive. You
ever noticed he's sort of a shouty, mean old man.
They try to position him like he's this cuddly grandpa
or something, although less and less of that these days.
But he's actually a bit of a bully. I remember

(11:08):
when he called that guy a dogface pony soldier. I
don't even know what I don't even know what that was.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I don't think he knows what that means. I think
it also comes out of nowhere. It's like a broken
wind up toy or something like. It's like he's talking, talking,
and then he just goes off out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Like it's you.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
You're in the New York area, right.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yes, unfortunately I'm still stuck here.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah. I mean, eventually you're gonna move to a red state,
because that's what has to happen. But yeah, it is happening.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
It's happening.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, there you go. But but I was gonna say,
I mean, it's it's about time for everybody to realize.
Unfortunately New York has has gone into a u I
was in New Yorker for so many years, going to
a bit of a decline. But now now I think,
you know, when when what were we just talking? I
just completely lost my train of thought for a second. There,
this is never happened.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
For screaming Biden being grumpy.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Why fighting being grumpy, Biden being mean? Well, I guess
we can just stay with that. Joe Biden is a
mean old man, and they try to make him seem
like he's nice and cuddly. Uh, But ultimately I think
that will not work because if you see him, he's
always he's basically always been pretty dumb and pretty nasty,
and I think that that's very difficult for them to
try to message around the fact that this guy is

(12:20):
president at all is still, in many ways the most
stunning thing.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I don't think the cuddly bear narrative buck even if
they were still sticking to that and it was working,
Is America really looking for a cuddle bear anymore?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I don't know. Is that something people can put on
their dating apps, like I'm looking for a for a cuddle? Probably?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Actually, I actually heard in other countries they're they're now
adding robots that can cuddle people, because that's that's how
bad dating has gotten. The marriage rates have gotten, So
we're building robots just to cuddle humans.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Like I tell everybody, I didn't get married till I
was forty, And I tell everybody this, I mean you know,
try to get it done earlier. I feel like a
lot of people too much focus on the career, is
too much focus on this stuff other than family formation.
And you know, no one cares.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
To the girl box culture. I really do know.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Nobody cares who makes VP at thirty five or thirty
or whatever. Like, none of that stuff really matters in
any meaningful way. So I think that's why the Harrison
Butker thing got people so upset, because he was saying
things not that weren't true, but that were true.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh yeah them all Chelsea Handler, Oh.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I saw some of that, and yeah, she was all
of it. All of a sudden, she's doing another one
of these videos. It's funny too, because she is she
thinks that she's making the case for the girl Boss
never get married, never have kids side of things. And
I see her and I'm like, she's actually exhibit a
of what the get married and have kids and don't

(13:58):
have this like hedonistic pointless life, you know what I mean.
So she's actually she thinks she's a spokesman for her side,
but she actually ends up being a piece of evidence
for the other side. I wonder if at some level
she may have some awareness. I also don't think she's funny.
Is she fun I don't think she's funny. Has she
been funny?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
So again I fell victim to the whole girl boss
narrative and it affected a lot of my relationships.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I thought that I had to be this.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Independent woman and we don't need any men and we
can live alone forever. And that's just not true. We
can need men to an extent. I can be independent
but also want to rely on someone. So maybe two
years ago, someone like her would have been I don't
want to say funny, maybe more relatable to me. But
now I just watch these videos and I feel bad

(14:45):
for her. It's not funny. Nothing's really funny.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
What is the breakdown of your female friends. I don't
know how old you are. You said you're a millennial,
But what is the breakdown of your female friends in
terms of how many of them like Trump versus are
hardcore Democrats?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
So I have a lot of Republican friends, but I
also have time around and black. These are the same.
But in our group chats here in New York.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
When there's crazy people going around punching girls in the
face randomly heard of those viral attacks, there's the same
girl's writing in the group chats how scared they are
to go outside, and I'm sitting there taking It takes
everything for me not to reply back and capital letters.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
You voted for this, you voted for Democrats?

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Are you even correlating these policies to what you're so
scared about? So a lot of the friends I have,
I don't want to call them sures, they're orange man
bad even they are coming around to focusing on the
policies because it's gotten that bad. I don't want to
speak for other cities, but it's gotten that bad here

(15:57):
in New York.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
It's tough to be a progressive Obama Biden Hillary voter.
The third or fourth time some maniac on the subway
has like spat on you and like threatened to stab
you with a rusty screwdriver. As in New York, I
just know that that's in time. I mean, there's still
so many Democrats in New York, but I feel like
there are some events that can start to push one

(16:19):
by one, push people in the direction of truth, justice
and righteousness. Come again.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I brought up the Mama Bears, these Upper East Side housewives,
I do. Man on the street interviews all over New York,
and I've really found this huge shift.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I took note of it just the past year alone.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
And it's the moms now that were notoriously Democrat would
rag about how they voted Democrat their whole life, Worried
about safety, not feeling comfortable to send their kids just
they're curious as to what the curriculum actually is anymore,
what their kids are even learning. So now they're fed
up and they're trying to maybe vote based on policy,

(17:01):
even though they have the Trump arrangement syndrome as well.
So awoke in the Mama bears, and that should scare everyone.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Absolutely. We'll come back into this in a second. I
want to tell everybody first about my friend Porter Stansbury.
He's a renowned economist and he's got an amazing documentary,
kind of a fighting documentary, but one you have to
see online called America's Last Election. It is free for
you to watch. Porter really knows this stuff backwards and forwards.
It's clear from the first minute you watch the video

(17:28):
he knows what is coming to our nation economically, and
he's predicted every major financial move in both directions for
twenty five years on the record. That's how he built
his name and his business. The documentary details how a
new financial crisis could be brewing in America and the
dangers that it poses to millions of Americans. How you work,
where you live, how you plan for retirement. Nothing may
ever be the same. You've got to watch this documentary

(17:51):
Last Election Plot dot com. That's Last Election Plot dot
com paid for by Porter and Company. So you spoke
about tell me about Trump mart You mentioned this, Yeah,
So they.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
The team was, the amazing team I work with, was
trying to set up an event too in the most
simple way.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Possible, prove what or just show what.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
The price difference is in groceries block which we all feel.
I don't care what state or city you live in,
We're all feeling the pain. So the folks that were
working with at these local markets across the country agreed
to basically give whatever percentage discount they needed to discount
the groceries to what they would be under Trump versus

(18:41):
what they are currently under Joe Biden. So, again, this
is affecting all Americans across the country and it's it's
really such a star contrast. So when you do events
like this, it really makes Americans realize, Wow, my life
was drastically different under Donald Trump versus what it is now.
And we know gas prices are another one of those

(19:03):
issues that is affecting every American. And again I'm gonna
end with with crime and immigration. I think these are
the major issues we'll continue to hear about all summer.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
If Trump wins, how do you celebrate? And if Biden wins,
how do you commiserate? What are your plans on that?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Ooh, okay?

Speaker 3 (19:20):
If Trump wins, I will hopefully see you in DC
because I would so love to be part of any
of this administration at that administration.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
In any role.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
And I genuinely think that this would we need to
save this country. Best way to make it happen. If
Biden wins, I'm not going to be like these Hollywood
elitists and pretendementals flee the country because I love this country.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And either way, Buck, there will be work that needs
to be done.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
We might need some extra crocket coffee if that Biden's
making over, But I'll continue to be in this fight
in one way or another. I'm really passionate about engaging
my contemporaries and what we just alluded to earlier, encouraging
females to not to again focus on family values, to

(20:13):
to not fall for that girl boss culture.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
This this whole idea.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Of not relying, not relying on a man not having
family values, not believing in marriage. We have had a
we've erased that the the institution of marriage from millennials,
from gen Z even in their thought process. It's not
even a thought anymore. It's such a negative connotation. And
those are the issues that I'm passionate on enforcing and reinforcing.

(20:41):
I should say so, one way or another. We're both
going to be in this fight.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
So there we go, not leaving the country. All right, good, good,
Good to have you on the team fighting for America. Caylnson.
Clear everybody follow her on social media and Maga maga inc.
Is that the proper maga what's the maga inc?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yes, that's pretty cool. All right, great to talk to you, Caleb.
We'll talk to you again before the election. Will hopefully
be able to get ready for a great night with
the election night. But thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
All right, my friend. Good to talk to you, Good

Speaker 1 (21:14):
To see you.

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