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August 6, 2024 22 mins
In this episode, Buck Sexton and Kurt Schlichter dive into the ongoing debate about scorched earth tactics versus policy focus in beating Kamala Harris. Kurt shares his thoughts on mutually assured destruction, the importance of fighting back, and the impact of identity politics on American society. They also explore the implications of Kamala Harris' past actions, including her controversial role in the Brett Kavanaugh hearings.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome to Buck Brief Back by popular demand our friend
Kurt Schleichter Colonel Kurt, that's right. He is a colonel
fullbird whoa big time in the United States Military, United
States Army. That's right. He's also an author. The Attack
is his novel which is selling very well. He's a
very good thriller writer. Recommend you check it out. He's

(00:40):
a senior columnist at townhall dot com. He's a patriot
and he says things that would get most people in trouble.
So here he is on the show, which gets me excited.
Let's start with this. I have a feeling I know
where you're gonna go with this. I've a feeling your
answer is going to be like Conan and Conan the
Barbarian when they ask him what is best and he's like,

(01:04):
you know, driver enemy before you hear the lamentations of
their women.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
What is about life?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Question?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
The enemies see them driven before you and LA, that
is good.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think that's going to happen when you when you
answer this question, but in the scorched earth versus focus
on policy debate to beat Kamala, where do you fall down?
And why?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, first of all, I want to chastise Arnold Schwarzenegger,
my former terrible governor, for misgendering and assuming the gender
of those who would be lamenting.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's true, it's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
But yeah, look, I I believe in mutually assured destruction,
which means we have to assure destruction if we're going
to if they're going to initiate new rules, buck, we
need to play by them, and we need to play
by them up and down the ladder. That means people
at the top. That means people at the bottom, because

(02:07):
if you don't buck, if you don't fight back, you're
not protecting your own people. When did why did Republicans
become against retribution and punishment? I always thought law in order.
You do something wrong, yes, suffer for it. Maybe you
don't do it in the future, but even if you

(02:27):
are a said of this, you should suffer for it.
You should suffer some justice. And when did we become
against that? When it got hard? When? When when we'd
have to be mean bunk? When we when it's not
nice jay these people.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's what I thought. That was the Kurtsch look, the
response that I was looking for here. I try to
remind everybody, and you know, I've made a point of
it in recent weeks on radio uh to tell everybody
it's not just that Kamala is isn't a is it
sort of absurd in a lot of ways, right, this
is not somebody who is good at anything. It is
as though we picked any random college diversity educator or

(03:09):
corporate diversity coordinator from anywhere in the country. You know,
she's like a woman who's entirely unremarkable except for being
a woman and being a woman of of mixed ancestry. Right,
no one everything can I just also asked you a question.
I mean, my my brother in law is of is

(03:30):
of South Asian descent. Noticesarily, she's referred to as the
as the first the you know, would be first black
female president. No one even danes to mention that she's
as much the first South Asian you know what I'm saying, Like, well,
like like this, there's it's almost like there's this effort
to you know, to create a brand here that isn't

(03:52):
I don't know reflective of the full reality.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
She is whatever she needs to be. And the reason
we laugh at it is because it's meaningless. I don't
care where your grandfather came from. It's zero interest to me.
It's a fetish for them. Uh and it's frankly not
the kind of country that I want to Now here's
you know, I don't. One of the greatest achievements in

(04:16):
the United States was that they took a majority ethnic route,
generically white Americans, and made them not an ethnic route.
White Americans didn't think, oh, i'm white, I vote for
this party. That's a huge triumph. We're instead of a

(04:36):
voting based on your race, you vote based on your ideology.
I mean, that's a great thing to have happened, because
I know, I've spent time in the Balkans. You would
have a Serve village over here, and now baby and
village over here, and they've lived together for hundreds of
years and then they go out and murder each other. Okay.

(04:58):
So America was awesome because they did that, and then
people like Kamala Harris want to throw it away for
short term political advantage. I can start making my race
the most important thing. Well, the problem is everybody is
going to do that, and you it's a bad idea,
and I don't want you to do that. Don't do that.

(05:20):
Don't ruin my country for your ambition, you horrible communist Wench.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
And I will say this, uh, I've also been talking
about on the show that it's it's yeah, I gotta see.
I got sidetracked because there's so much to say about
Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And the media.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right, We'll get into this in a second, because the yeah,
it's so many at the speed of the propaganda. Nothing
that they're saying right now is a shock, but the
speed of it, I mean, you just get the sense
that the assembly lines, if they were making donuts before that,
were coming there, you know, commie propaganda donuts day in

(05:56):
and day out. The donuts are flying off via something.
I mean, it's just you know, they're shooting like a
five to five six round across the room, like they're
flying off the off the conveyor belts. I just the
other part of this though, she's not a good person,
and I don't just say I don't just say this
about and but I'm not even I know, and people

(06:16):
will talk about the Willy Brown stuff whatever. I actually
think that that. I don't think anyone's gonna care. I mean,
you can totally by the way, Clay and I disagree
on this, So Kurt.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know, it's not like I think there are some
people who care.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, I mean I care.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I it makes me think less of her. I'm gonna
keep in mind, I brought your San Francisco, so that's
kind of you know where I come from. I I
you know, there's been a lot of disagreement about that,
and I don't think I think it's an important line
of attack, but not the most important. Every message should

(06:48):
be delivered, but not every message to be delivered by
every messenger. I don't want to see Trump talking about it,
but I don't mind Spurget's talking about it because there
are people out there, Buck who are gonna go. You know,
I really don't like the way that she started out by,
you know, tramping around out to Willie Brown, and that
makes me think less of her. Okay, that's their choice,
and they get to pick what they think.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Is the I worry tactically it's.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
The best attack, but it's unattack.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I would say my concern on that. And again we're
getting sidetracked. I haven't even gotten my primary point. I know,
all right, we could do this all day. It's almost
like it's almost like we're content guys. Radios. I would say,
I worry that, and I know this, it's not rational,
but it doesn't have to be rational to have the
effect they want that attacking Kamala for you know what

(07:35):
she did sexually a long time ago. There are some
women who we might be able maybe maybe to consider
voting Trump, who might start to take that a little
personally or start to buy into some of the misogyny
lines that are going to be you, you know, basically,
vote for Kamala is a It is gas lighting. She
didn't say what she said. She's not a communist. She

(07:57):
doesn't want to ban fracking. I mean, you ban fracking,
the country would go into the Great Depression. I keep
telling you about sixty percent of our oil is FRA.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
It's not a problem for her though she don't care.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, but are easier to govern than prosperous ones. The
other part of it, the other side of it is
I think just the the moral blackmail. All Democrats will
vote for her because she's a woman and she's black.
Although as I keep pointing out. I mean she's actually
a person of mixed ancestry. She has a black parent,
she has a South Asian parent, and we never get
to hear about the South Asian parent, which I'm just

(08:30):
like why anyway? For me, those are the two things
that are gonna happen. But they're gonna try to morally
blackmail people on the race and gender thing, like if
you don't vote for Kamma, you're a bigot and you're
a sexist. Now that doesn't you And I think that
that is funny, right, like when people would try to
blackmail us with that sort of talk. I don't know

(08:51):
the normies. You gotta think of the normies out there.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
You know, I've been I've been out of California for
a wal. I'm heading back to California's soon, but i've
been I'm in staying in Texas and not in a
super conservative area. So I've been talking to normal people.
And you know what's interesting is they've been paying attention
to how they've been lied to Buck, they've been lied

(09:16):
to about Joe Biden, they've been lied to about you know,
was Donald Trump hit by scrapnel or glass from his teleprompter,
you know COVID, you know your booster, and they're getting
a little salty. And I don't know if the racial
cut cutting is going to work the way it used to.

(09:38):
I think a lot of them retired of being well.
First of all, they figured out, no matter what you do,
they're going to call you a racist. No matter what
you do. When HR holds a diversity meeting, if you
are not one of the approved race, ethnic, you know,
genders identities, you're going to be the designated villain. I

(09:59):
think they've they've seen this all baloney, and they're tired
of it, and they're and I don't think it's working anymore.
I think the kind of people who would vote for
Kamala Harris because of her exterior genitalia and the alleged
ancestry of her relatives are not people who would ever

(10:21):
vote for Donald Trump and JD. Vance ever for any reason.
So I am disinclined to spend any time caring what
they think. Are said.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, I mean, we weren't gonna win the cat ladies anyway,
And can.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I just also point out we're gonna win the cat
ladies anyway?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And this is like, you can't make fun of it,
even some conservative and are like, well, I have a
cat and I have five kids.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'm like, good, one stop.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm like, no, one's god to.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Stop stop with this tone police thing. I know there
are no enemies here, right, I don't like to make
time about cat ladies. Here's the idea, shut up or
tell it here, cat Kurt.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
We get people that write in or call in or
get mad at me because I'll say, you know, these
blue haired communists and people say like, well, look, I'm
I'm an I'm a you know, an eighty five year
old lifetime conservative, and you know I think the blue hair.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I'm like, you're not talking about.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's what I'm saying. Like, I'm not saying look blue
hair as in as in like elderly people. I'm talking
about people to dye their hair brightly blue because they're
out of their minds.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
We cannot govern our lives trying to not to give
offense to people who are too stupid, who know when
they're being insulted or not. Okay, So when Katie Dance
is talking about child with cat ladies, we know exactly
what he's talking about, and he's not talking about that

(11:49):
conservative influencer who had to use IVF, and there are
people who've used IVF in my family. I'm not against
no conservatives against Very few conservatives are against IVF. Some are,
and they they have a right to make their point.
I just happen to disagree, but I just.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I didn't agree to it. And let me just go
on the record and say about about for those conservatives,
because some of them get a little like hmm, like
you know, this is the way it needs to be,
and this is what I want to say, like really
you because sometimes if is done for people to avoid
severe genetic disorders that can be detected before pregnancy, I'm
not talking about and so and so. I would want

(12:27):
to know if these influencers want to go up to
somebody and say, you know what, like you know it
would be better, like God wanted your kid to have
cystic fibrosis, like you shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
I can respect. Yeah, there are arguments I disagree. If
I can respect, I can respect somebody who says, hey,
I'm against the death penalty because I don't think the
government can be trusted to have somebody's life and death
in their hands. Now I disagree with that, but I
don't think that's crazy or even stupid. I just disagree

(12:55):
with IVF if somebody says, hey, it results in the
death of a lot of fertilized eggs, which I consider,
you know, because of my religious teachings to be life.
So I'm against it. Okay, I get that. I don't
think you're crazy or a bad person. I just disagree
with you because I haven't near point of view. I'm
here a bad person. The hen think I'm a bad person.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, well, I think that's fair. I think that's fair.
But I haven't even gotten to why Kamala is a
bad person, by the way, which you have reminded. But
I have to. I have to. We have to. We
have to, you know, we have to pay some bills. Here,
hold on it, so I got to keep the lights on.
One second, Curt, drink some coffee. Look, Porter Stansbury's been
a good friend of mine for a decade. The guy's
brilliant and he just, starting from his own college dorm

(13:37):
room back in the nineties, built a financial research company
that's the best out there. And he did something really
interesting last year. He cut his salary to a dollar
a year. He's the CEO of a publicly traded company
that does hundreds of millions of dollars a year in revenue.
Why would he cut his own salary to a dollar. Well,
he thinks there's a better way to save and get paid,
and he wants you to know about it so you
can take the same approach. You can do the same thing.

(14:01):
He calls it a secret currency. It's not bitcoin, it's
not crypto. All you have to do to learn about this,
and Porter wants to tell you all about it himself
is watch this detailed presentation from Porter Stansbury. Secret Currency
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talked about or laid out for you like this anywhere else.

(14:22):
Secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. Okay, I want
to I want to give this to you to let
you run with it, Kurt, But I just I have
to bring this up. Kamala Harris. You know we mock
her a lot on the right. We talk about, you know,
you know, what could be unburdened by what has been,
and she says that in every speech it's just bizarre

(14:43):
what she did and spearheaded against Brett Kavanaugh is one
of the most disgusting and disgraceful things I have ever
seen in politics. I don't even know if I could
think of something. In some ways, the the turning point
I think for a lot of conservatives to become more
wartime conservatives in their thinking politically speaking, was if they're

(15:07):
willing to ritually denegre, humiliate, and try to destroy a
manifestly innocent man with absurd sex crime allegations, which is
what they did against Kavanaugh, They'll do anything right. This
is what I kept saying at the time. I was like,
they would do this to your brother, they do this
to your dad. They don't care, doesn't matter how innocent

(15:28):
they are. They can know that he's innocent, and they did,
and they would do it anyway. To me, all the
evidence we need that Kamma is a terrible person.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Which she is a terrible person, and she you know,
there are lots of terrible people. The problem is she
is a terrible person who can influence the way our
society works. The problem is we're knocking down norms. There
used to be a time, for instance, you would be
able to rely on undisputed facts from the past, like

(15:57):
Kamala has been appointed. The borders are it's literally there
in writing. There are people saying it, and it becomes
on it becomes inconvenient, so suddenly it can be eliminated
though they know it's the truth. We know it's the truth.
When you can't rely on any means of argument, you can't.

(16:19):
If you can't have an argument because the facts can
be changed as it becomes, as they become inconvenient, what
do you have left to resolve disputes? There are only
two ways. You can either argue about them and figure
them out a political process, or you can use power.
And they are not you know, they're they're not reluctant

(16:41):
to use power. Look at all the innocent Chase six
people have been persecuted as opposed to the rioters from
that for instance, that Hamas rally.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Get just on America's to follow up on this, to
follow up on this. I remember hearing you know, oh
my gosh, like, you can't attack law enforcement. It's an
assault on democracy and all this stuff. And I was
saying the whole time, I agree, you can't attack law enforcement. Okay,
you're not allowed to tack law.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Enforcement can attack of law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
It's a bad thing, yeah, early, but really, but that
then has to be and should be the law right
and that includes also that includes also barring disparate treatment,
as in I like this person who attacked a cop,
so they don't pay a price, and I don't like
this person j six protesters in the case of the left,

(17:29):
so they pay the most severe price. The lunatics who
were manhandling, pushing and punching cops at the outside of
Union Square recently, or Union Station, I mean Union Station
down in DC for that, like anti Israel stuff, which
these people are all psychos anyway, charges were dropped against them, Kurt,
charges were dropped.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Look, you either have a rule based society where you
argue about things and then come to a decision through
political process these or you have the exercise before all power.
Now I can live with the first. I want the
first one. I want a rule of law government. But

(18:11):
I can live with the exercise of power because I
intend it to be our side exercising the power. I
don't want that. But the one option that doesn't exist,
the one option that it's you know, dying on a
pile of hot rast, is them ruling over us UH
purely through power. I refuse to live as a slave.

(18:35):
I am a citizen. I will live as a citizen
if need be. I will buy it as a sistan.
I don't have any choice about it either. To you,
we both took an oath to defend this country. You
when you join the CIA, when I joined the army
became a commissioned officer. I have morally obligated to fight
to the death to protect our constitution, and I will

(18:59):
if I have to, until millions of other people. Let's
not do that though. Let's let's abide by the constitution,
abide by norms. Let's have a media that's not a
regime media. Let's let's do this right, because you know,
we're not going to simply go, oh, this whole being

(19:22):
a citizen being free thing. It was nice while lasted.
I guess I'm a surf Now on the cards, I.

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before we adjourn this session. We'll do this again soon,
because you know, we got an election coming up, and
we got a lot of things. We got to beat
the communists. So The Attack your book. Tell them Discovery

(21:02):
give everybody a little a little little teaser, a little
prec and they can go get a copy of it.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
The Attack is a novel about a October seventh style
attack in the in the United States in the very
near future. How it would happen, how it would go down,
how we can fight back. It is scary. People tell me,
you know some of the tacks. It's a hard book.
Oh there's some humor in it because I'm Kurt Schlicker,

(21:29):
and there's some funny stuff in it, but it is
it is a tough book. I talked to guys like you.
I talked to a lot of other folks who have
knowledge in this area. I tried to make as realistic
as possible without giving away anything that those guys haven't
already thought of. And well, they've thought of all the
stuff I talk about. I put together in one place.

(21:51):
The Attack. It is a highly readable book. It's not
a Batan death march. It's a good story and people
have been responding very very well. I have sold boatloads
of this book, and gosh, I hope people read it
and vote accordingly.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Court looked at everybody the man saw off Kurt always
an honor. Thank you, sir, good to see you.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Thanks for having me.

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