January 30, 2023 • 37 mins
"Asylum seekers" flood in over northern border. Illegal migrants won't leave midtown NYC hotel. CNN has totally collapsed post-Trump. Clay and Buck take a deep dive into the escalation of the war in Ukraine. Hilarious Trump commentary on Hunter Biden's laptop.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck starts
right now. Everybody, thanks for being here with us. I said,
we talk about migrants and the border and also migrants
in New York City. Here a second, and we certainly
will the northern border, though we usually think of the
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southern border. Do you see this, Clay, The northern border
has had a seven hundred plus percent spike in migrants
trying to cross. So between October one in December thirty
first of last year, the border patrol covering Vermont and
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New Hampshire. You don't often think of that as a
border patrol sector, but it is one. They have even
seen a seven x surge. Now, the numbers are far
smaller than what you're dealing with at the US Mexico border.
Obviously you're looking more along the lines of the hundreds
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instead of the thousands or hundreds of thousands that have
been crossing. But it's interesting just to see that it's
now from from both sides you have an illegal immigration
relative surge. It's enormous at our southern border by any standard,
but as a as a percentage a dramatic increase because
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people realize that the Bid administration is not going to
do anything about about any of this. Yeah, there's a
there's a story buck to speak of this. Do you
know how many Russians have come across our southern border?
A bunch thirty five thousand Russians have traveled to the
southern border, because I know this because there was a
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story and it's interesting you mentioned the northern border. There
was a story in the New York Times Sunday edition
about two Russians who came in through a Alaska. They
went to the one of the small island outposts of
the United States. They fled from Russia and haven't claimed asylum.
But the story was about the number of Russians who
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have entered into the country and claimed asylum because of
the war that's going on, and the New York Times
number I believe thirty five thousand coming across the southern border,
which was a staggering number to me. I know, we've
talked about how many different countries people are coming to
Mexico and just deciding to walk across the southern border
and claim asylum. Thirty five thousand Russians was a jaw
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dropping number to me, and they just fly to Mexico
basically and then walk right across the border. Since we're
talking jaw dropping numbers, five million immigrants illegal immigrants have
entered the United States since January of twenty twenty one,
when Joe Biden took over five five million in two years. Okay,
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as we're looking at the data. Now we're looking at
the numbers, how much more open could the border be?
And you'll notice the Biden administration doesn't feel any urgency
on this issue. Isn't going to do anything other than
every time they say they're going to surge resources, particularly
at our southern border, every time they claim that they're
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paying attention to it, it's just to add processing so
that people can be more easily and readily let into
the United States. Think about it this way, everyone, they're
all saying, clay that they're asylum seekers. This is how
they gain This is the giant gaping hole in our
system that has been exploited, and it's really it's really immoral.
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I mean, I will say that this idea that you
can lie about being persecuted from your home country so
you can skip to the front of the immigration line,
there are people for whom getting asylum is a life
and death issue. These are not individuals. Ninety nine percent
of them more than that are not actually asylum seekers.
And the data bears all this out. The actual numbers
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about who is going to get asylum. You know, maybe
one in ten will get some form of status given
to them, and that's probably high. But Clay, you have
to wonder, at what point does the Biden administration recognize
that this is unsustainable? If we're going to pretend to
even have a border, why even go through the motions? Buck,
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And I'm glad you brought up that five million number
because I was thinking about this the other day. You
think about numbers and sometimes you don't contextualize them, and
I know I do this sometimes too. Let me give
you a context for what five million means in a
way that I think a lot of people out there
could understand. Basically, since Joe Biden became president, the entire
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state of South Carolina we have added in population. So
if you have ever been to the state of South Carolina,
about five point two million people every single person in
South Carolina right now is how many people walked across
the border Alabama five million people. More people have come
into this country illegally under Joe Biden than live in Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Utah, Iowa,
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a lot more Nevada, Arkansas, Mississippi. I mean, think about
when you talk about five million people, you're talking about
the entire state of Alabama or South Carolina and populations
that are more substantial than over basically half of the
populations in the United States right now. That's crazy to
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think about. This is all on the premise because what
the activists and the you know, the left wing will
say is they're allowed to be here. They're seeking legal
status through the asylum system. How long does anyone think
it would take to process millions of asylum claims in
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any sort of real way, meaning you're gonna figure out
who this person is, have them prove their story, you know,
give them their their day in court over asylum. The
way the increasingly, I think the way the Biden administration
is going to push for amnesty is a backdoor amnesty
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where they're just going to try to make it so
that they what's going on the border is the credible
fear test that border patrol and immigration the Customs Enforcement
do where you have to say very very minimal things
to be oh, I'm now seeking defensive asylum in the US.
They've decided that they're not going to detain people, which
is against the law, by the way, but they don't care,
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and they let them into the country. Clay if they
make it super easy to effectively get a rubber stamp
asylum claim done, that's a test. That's a switch that
they could have just from the system without necessarily getting
any change in legislation. I think that's something they're hoping
to accomplish because the Republicans in the House, I don't
believe will go along with a mass amnesty through legislation.
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So there they've exploited the holes in the system to
let them in, to let them all stay indefinitely. I
think they're going to do the same thing. Obama administration
essentially did a version of this, but they weren't doing
it through the immigration courts. They were doing it by
just they were going to hand out IDs and work
visas to everybody who was coming in who was the
family member of a DACA recipient. I think it was
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it was it was DACA and DAPPA deferred action for
childhood rivals, deferred action for the parents of arrivals. It
was gonna be like seven million people something like that
that they was going to give them. So this is
what we're heading toward five million people. How could you
even process that if you wanted to? I just think
again to contextualize, over half of American states have a
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population that is smaller than that number basically, So if
you think about it from an Alabama or South Carolina perspective,
and remember it's going to grow, it'll move into during
this Biden administration next two years, it will move into
you know, probably a top ten, top twelve, top fourteen
state population where wherever you're listening to us right now,
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during Joe Biden's tenure, your state population, there's a good
chance around twenty five states have five million people. Five
point two million people are fewer. That contextualizes it. And
you know a state like Wyoming buck has six hundred
thousand people, so you basically have had ten Wyomings enter
since Joe Biden became president. And if you're wondering, you
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know the remember the old the old storyline we used
to hear about illegal immigrants was always they do the jobs,
Americans won't do they contribute to the economy, They're gonna
save Social Security. These are all these are all the
old Democrat talking foods. Meanwhile, you speak to Eric Adams
or any large city mayor right now with the influx
of migrants they have, and what do they all say.
We can't afford this. We can't afford to pay for
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the housing, the food, effectively the room and board of
these different of these these migrant groups. And so that's
why we mentioned this in the last hour. In Hell's Kitchen,
New York City, they have a hotel where there are
migrants who have been housed and they are refusing. This
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is on West fifty seventh Street, the Watson Hotel. The
migrants were told Clay they should move to the Brooklyn
Cruise Ship Terminal where they've set up a facility for migrants,
and they're protesting outside the hotel where they're staying at
tax payer expense, saying, now we like the four star hotel.
I think we're gonna stay here. We don't want to
go to the other place. That's I'm just that this
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is the mentality everybody. This is what's going on, and
you are paying for it. If you wonder why people
are coming, Imagine that you are living incredibly poor in
Latin America and one of your friends or family members
texts you and says, hey, I'm in New York City now,
right off Times Square in a four star hotel. I
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got cable, I got you know, heating air, great bathroom.
This is how rich the United States is. They're just
putting us up in hotels that are probably nicer than
almost any hotels that exist in many of the countries
where these guys are coming from. Do you think that's
gonna persuade you that you shouldn't come, or you're gonna
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be like, this is amazing. And remember they also probably
got a free bus ride to New York City from
Texas too. Right on top of everything else, you came
across illegally and you say, Okay, where would you like
to go? And you're like New York City and you
get popped on a bus. Next thing you know, you're
in New York City staying in a four star hotel
I get. I just questioned how many people in in
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our listening audience have ever gotten to stay in a
four star hotel in Manhattan, much less our taxpayers paying
for it. It's crazy. I'm an American citizen and a
five showed up to a four star hotel, and I've
been paying taxes for time, haven't gotten very much for it.
If I showed up at a four star hotel and
said I I'm going to stay here for free and
have people bring me food for free and I get
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to do whatever I want and this is now my home,
I assume hotel management would call the police and I
would be arrested right like that. That would just be
my my assumption. Now, I know they've been told by
the government authorities that they can stay here, but now
they're being told you gotta go, and they're saying, no, no,
we're gonna We're gonna actually try to just stay here
at taxpayer expense. It's hundreds of millions of dollars, everybody,
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can I also just put that out there, This is
not a small amount of money that the City of
New York is spending to houses migrants. And this is
why it was only that one time. But when the
migrants were were dropped off in Martha's vineyard. Martha's Vineyard, Yeah,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Nantucket. Oh my gosh, the vineyard.
People are like, how dare you it was Nantucket, wasn't it.
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I think it was Martha's vineyard. Oh the vineyard. It
was first time, yeah, yes, okay. So when they were
dropped off on one of those fancy islands, um it was.
It showed you what's really going on. It showed you
fifty people as all it took. Um. Yeah, that's that's
all it took. It's it's amazing that this is what
ended up happening. So I I just I can't get
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over buck. I mean again, for anybody out there who's
who's listening to us, four star hotel in the heart
of Manhattan, Your taxpayer dollars are going to put illegal
immigrants in four star hotels in the heart of Manhattan.
And I just what percentage of you listening to us
right now could afford to go on a vacation right
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now and stay in a four star hotel in the
heart of Manhattan. I bet not a huge percentage, right,
take your whole family travel there. You'd have to pay
for all of it. Illegal immigrants are doing it on
your taxpayer dollars. I just want what's the and what
is the expect these these are people who are really
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not supposed to be in the country at all. Yes,
And can they live in this? Can they live in
a taxpayer expense for two years? For five years? You know,
how long did they get They put up in this
hotel for how long? Are a taxpayers on the hook
for this? It's amazing the Democrats are doing. They're protesting
because they don't want it to add But think about
what the incentive structure you are sending for people in
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poor countries who hear that this is what happens when
you come to America. Wouldn't you travel if you had
an awful existence in a Latin American country and you
heard you could stay in a four star hotel in
New York City. I mean, the incentive structure is completely broken.
If I were a New Yorker who had been evicted
from my house or you know, my home in the
last six months, I would be really really angry because
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you know, you didn't pay the bank, so you have
to go. But other people are getting free housing at
taxpayer for what on what basis they're not even supposed
to be in the country. Yeah, that's a great question.
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Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck. I was
just reading this. One benefit there are relatively few from
Donald Trump not being in office. Is that CNN. I
think even Trump himself has said this. CNN has completely collapsed.
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CNN just posted its lowest ratings in nine years, going
all the way back to twenty fourteen, before the idea
of Donald Trump ever being a political candidate. And one
of the fascinating things about the collapse of CNN And
but you saw it from the inside, because before CNN
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lost its mind, you are actually a contributor there. When
you see that they are setting nine year failure records,
what do they do now? Like, how do you solve
CNN in any way? It is one of the most
spectacular media meltdowns I've ever seen, and it occurred. Really,
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the transition happened when I was there, because I was
there for a couple of years, and so the first
year was pre Trump, and then the second year was
in the Republican primary, and Trump came to the forefront,
and the place just became unhinged. I mean you, there
was nothing that was too crazy that could be said
about Trump. The entire institution was trained effectively to despise
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anyone who was speaking on behalf of Trump, and it
was obvious that at some point they were just gonna
drive the planet into a cliff, and they did. I mean,
this is there's no part of CNN's collapse that is
surprised that anybody who saw it was happening. It was
disgraceful what they did there. I mean because remember they
weren't an opinion channel, Clay, they were straight news. They
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they destroyed their brand. And I would argue that the
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they bring it back. I really don't. It's a fascinating question.
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back to play Anne Buck. We have been told a
lot of things about the war in Ukraine the last
year or so, and there has been obviously a celebrity
component of all of this. You had famous Hollywood actors
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Ben Stiller and Sean Penn, among others, go over to
visit with Zelenski. He has spoken via did did he speak?
It was it the oscars or the what was the
didn't he speak? It's that's happening soon, right, I think? Yeah, yeah,
So so whenever you're having when big important international people, uh,
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you know, international event happens, Davos, whatever you gotta, you
gotta pipe in Zelenski via Skype wearing the T shirt,
the whole thing he spoke to Uh, he spoke to
our Congress, you remember, and in the obviously recently the
Biden minis ration invited him. And this has become we're
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supposed to believe a cause of righteousness. That also is
something that we should be very invested, literally quite invested in.
As we are paying the bills here, you are paying
the bills to the tune of one hundred billion dollars
for this year. Right now, we're having a conversation in
this country about thirty one trillion dollars of debt. The
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national debt is quite high, I think by anyone standard,
thirty one trillion dollars a lot of money. We're sending
one hundred billion dollars to Ukraine. We're told that this
is a good investment. This is something that we both
are morally obligated to do and strategically benefit from. That
is the consensus position of the foreign policy elites, whatever
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you think of them, the Biden administration, a lot of
Republicans too, There are a lot of Republicans are on
board for this. I'm just going to point out that
right now there are some people who are whisper and
increasingly I think, going to start shouting that Russia is
planning a massive offensive with new conscripts. This is a
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war unlike any of the US has fought in recent decades.
This is this is tanks against tanks, This is dug
in fighting positions, advanced militaries slugging it out, and the
Russian escalation clay is already leading to Zelenski demanding faster provision.
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It's not even enough to get him all the munitions
and pay all the bills. We have to get him
faster stuff. We're sending Abrams tanks as we know, the
Germans are sending Leopard tanks. Now there's conversation ongoing about
an even more advanced weapons missile system that we could
send to Ukraine to extend their range of being able
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to hit the Russians. We're back to the when are
we going to start providing planes? And here's the problem.
A lot of military analysts in Clay are starting to
see that there is there doesn't There is no reality
of Ukraine defeating Russia in any short period of time.
That doesn't seem possible or plausible at all. So are
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we just going to commit to sending never mind the
possibility of escalation and what could happen if that. It
feels like we're not even supposed to talk about that.
But one hundred billion dollars a year. Should the American
people pay one hundred billion dollars a year for Ukraine
to fight Russia for the next five years? Is that
a good usage of American treasure? I would argue no,
particularly because, as you mentioned, we're now over thirty one
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trillion dollars in debt, and the debt interest alone is
continuing to eat up a higher and higher percentage of
that which we are going to be obligated to pay.
But also with the now adding tanks, the next step
will be, well, should we bring in some old aircraft?
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It seems to me like we are continuing to tiptoe
into an escalating conflict. And you know, the idea last
year at this time, I'd bet buck if you had
floated the idea, hey, we need to send as many
tanks as we can to Ukraine, I think most people
would have set out, that's a little bit too much.
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And now we're sending tanks and there doesn't even hardly
seem to be a debate at all about whether that's
appropriate or whether it further embeds US in this battle.
And I would just point out that American responses, very
often to foreign interests are based on the idea of, hey,
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they sent the weapons that they are using to kill us. Right.
One of the reasons we took out Solomoni was because
he was involved in helping to provide the material to
allow the wounding, maiming and killing of American troops, So
you are thinking about from the Russian perspective, would you
be like, Oh, those aren't Americans in the tanks, those
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are just American tanks. Would that distinction really start to
matter to you? Or if you're Russia, are you like, Oh,
America's now in this war against us and that next
step of adding planes. At some point the materials are
substantial enough that you have to almost consider yourself to
be an enemy combatant. And we should probably think about
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that before we find out the hard way what that
red line debate about the tanks? Buck? Have you seen
anybody say, Hey, I don't know that's a that's an escalation.
I don't know that we need to take that step.
And the fact that we've gone from we're just going
to provide certain things, and there'll be limitations on it too.
Now we're sending Abrams tanks, and we might be sending
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even more advanced self propelled our artillery and missile systems.
At what point are we just gonna say, you know what,
We're gonna give them planes? Would give them everything so
that they can defeat Russia. The interest here in defeating
Russia and Ukraine? Is it open checkbook time? Is it endless?
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Is there any is there any point at which the
people that think that we should be provided. Look, Pompeo
was on the show last week and he said, give
them anything they want, anything they need to defeat Russia.
That seems kind of extreme to be Is this really
that important to the United States? And also, how does
this all look. Let's say we do go into and
I get all the emails people say we're already in
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a recession. Weren't in enough of a recession to get
the Democrats crushed in the midterms, folks, So you know,
if we're in a recession, it hasn't really hasn't really
bitten all that hard quite yet. But let's say we
go into a depression or a major recession. Are we
gonna want to fund one hundred billion dollars a year
for the war in Ukraine? Is that something that people
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are going to want to continue to do. I have
to say, you know, there's not really much communication about this,
and people that say we have an interest it's an
investment in our future to keep hearing that an investment
in our security. I don't think whoever controls Eastern Ukraine
matters to me in my life. And I'm a little
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bit concerned here that we just went through a couple
of wars, Clay, where you weren't allowed to ever really
be the one standing up and saying, hey, what are
we really trying to accomplish here? Now? Like? What is
the actual goal? Because anybody who knew anything about Afghanistan
knew that it was going to end more or less
the way it ended, minus the way the Biden administration
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did it, but that it was heading in that direction.
That's been the case for fifteen years. Not only that, Buck,
what about the expense involved if China does decide to
invade Taiwan? Because I'm sure you saw the American general
over the weekend that's got a lot of attention. He
had sent a memo basically to all of his troops saying,
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I think that China's going to invade Taiwan in twenty
twenty five. Now, whether or not that ends up being true,
we know that we would then, I think more so
than with Russia, because I think China is a bigger
threat to US than Russia is. But are we going
to spend hundreds of billions of dollars also simultaneously defending
Taiwan from Chinese aggression? Are we going to end up
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in a situation? And I can understand the argument of well,
what's going on in Ukraine shows that we will stand
in defense of Taiwan, But can we afford to do both?
I don't hear anybody hardly asking that question. But if
we're spending one hundred billion dollars plus and it's a
never ending checkbook of essentially a ground ward that is
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that is building its own Magino line, it almost feels
like right where you're just embedded there and neither side
can move that much. Are we going to invest tens
of billions of dollars on an annuity basis for Ukraine
while simultaneously potentially having to do the same thing in Taiwan?
And can we afford to do both given to where
our budget situations are right now? It's a real honest
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adult questions that are should be asked, that are being
asked by very many people. I think there's very little
discussion about what the Biden administration is seeking to achieve,
because anyone who's paying attention to Ukraine right now would say,
it doesn't look like we will be able to support
a Ukrainian breakthrough and expulsion of Russian forces in the
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next year and perhaps for years. Yes, So this this
thing of oh, if we just keep giving them stuff,
they'll do the fighting. Okay, five years, how long do
we Because the Russian the Russian Federation, as much as
we were led to believe we're going to cripple them
with our sanctions, it was all lies, crap, nonsense. The
Russian Federation is huge, has a lot of people, and
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is not going to stop. So I don't know. I
feel like maybe maybe the Biden administration, the people that
are involved in this calling the shots, they're not very
smart on anything else. I would I assume they're smart
on this. I was approaching from that perspective. I think
it's a fantastic question. And again, in the context of
what might happen in Taiwan in the wake of what
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this American general is saying, are we able to have
effectively a two fronted war. Maybe we're going to be
directly involved in Taiwan, and that's going to be different.
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week after the mid terms, he hadn't really been on
the road very much. South Carolina early primary. We've talked
about that could be a battleground state. Certainly New Hampshire
will be both a battleground state and an early primary.
And Trump, well, he was talking about as only he can,
the Hunter Biden Joe Biden laptop. Listen, we have a president.
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His son's laptop from Hill gets taken over and exposes
massive corruption like nobody's ever seen before. Do you think
the father do you ever hear this? Do you think
the father was upset? Dad? I left my laptop in
a repair shop. I forgot to pick it up, and
this repair guy went a little crazy when he saw,
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Well what was on it? What's on it's son, every
crime that you've ever committed. But at what point does
the father get angry? You know, like this kid is
not working out well for me. It's actually pretty funny. Again.
Trump's humor, I think is by far the most underrated
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aspect of his entire political personae. He is very full
as you know, Buck just don't get it. They don't
really get the entertainment aspect of him. But he's making
an important point there. Well, yes, and it's such an
interesting reminder that Hunter Biden left his laptop. I mean,
what are the things that you could possibly leave in
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a place that you know you would never forget about? Wallet? Phone, yeah, laptop,
I mean those are you know, whatever I'm going anywhere,
traveling anywhere, as long as I have my wallet on
my phone, my laptop and everything else, I'll have Amazon
delivered like I don't really care. Yeah, figure it out.
But those are the things that you obviously need to
keep keep an eye on and keep track of and
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the fact that he just left it behind and left
it beyond the time period in which it becomes property
of the you know, the repair shop John Paul mciaac,
the guy in the repair shop in Delaware Buck. If
he hadn't made a copy of it, I think this
is important. I had this conversation with Miranda Divine. It's
up in the podcast in the podcast role at Clay
(33:28):
and Buck. We would have never known this laptop existed
because remember, the FBI's had it for over three years, now, right,
They got it in December of twenty nineteen, if I
remember correctly, and now we're sitting here in twenty twenty three.
If he hadn't made a copy of everything on that
laptop and retained it, I don't think the FBI would
have ever acknowledged that they had this laptop at all.
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Certainly they haven't done anything with it yet. Where is it,
We don't even know. I think they would have destroyed it,
and I think they would have claimed they never had
it and they did a desearch and research on it
and it wasn't actually Hunter Bidens. I still don't understand
not to just jump around to topics. I still don't
understand how all these individuals had You know, the only
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one that makes sense to me is Trump, because Trump
his team took you know, he took the stuff, stored
it and said, I was a president, I'm taking this stuff.
It's mine. Yeah, that I can understand you doing. But
the other stuff with Biden, and yes, with Pence, who
is now having to do the whole maya culpa thing,
he's like, you know, oh, actually we have audio of
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him saying this thing. Right, Pence is saying, I'm totally
responsible for this play it. I think, oh, I thought
we had it. My bad. I was of the mind
that we had something along those laves sixteen sixteen. There
we go. Those classified documents should not have been in
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my personal residence. Mistakes were made, and I take full responsibility,
and I directed my counsel to work with the National Archives,
with the Department of Justice, and with the Congress to
fully cooperate in any investigation. I mean they say fully cooperate.
They're all gonna skate. None of them are gonna get
in trouble. And people that have worked at the national
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security side, we'll all say, you know, I wouldn't just
get get to skate on this one, but they'll they'll
all skate. I just think it's it's remarkable they didn't
just destroy the stuff. Like I keep coming back to this.
You know, you find this stuff, you throw it in
the fireplace, you don't call the National Archives. So we
gotta call last week from a listener that I thought
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was really good, and I went and did research on
it because I was like, how many classified documents are there?
Because his question was one that I think a lot
of you out there might in the back of your
mind have, which is, if something's missing from the classified documents,
how would there be no one who knew that it
was missing? Buck The number of classified documents fifty million
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of them right now in the United States, fifty million.
So if you're out there and you're like, wouldn't they
know if there were six pages of classified documents missing, No,
it's the government fifty million classified document designations. Yeah, that's crazy.
I knew it was a lot, but when I saw
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fifty million, I was like, that is unprecedented amount of
classified documents. So they don't know where it all is,
that's for sure. We come back we got some good
audio far I'm gonna play this for Buck, the Mayor
of Cincinnati. I'm sorry for those of you in Cincinnati.
I think we're number one in the city right now
because you lost last night in the AFC Championship play.
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The Mayor of Cincinnati, Buck has not heard this, gave
a proclamation that is one of the most ridiculous that
has everybody furious at him in the city of Cincinnati.
If you haven't heard it, you're gonna love it. I'm
gonna play it for Anax. This play by
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck starts
right now. Everybody, thanks for being here with us. I said,
we talk about migrants and the border and also migrants
in New York City. Here a second, and we certainly
will the northern border, though we usually think of the
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southern border. Do you see this, Clay, The northern border
has had a seven hundred plus percent spike in migrants
trying to cross. So between October one in December thirty
first of last year, the border patrol covering Vermont and
(00:44):
New Hampshire. You don't often think of that as a
border patrol sector, but it is one. They have even
seen a seven x surge. Now, the numbers are far
smaller than what you're dealing with at the US Mexico border.
Obviously you're looking more along the lines of the hundreds
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instead of the thousands or hundreds of thousands that have
been crossing. But it's interesting just to see that it's
now from from both sides you have an illegal immigration
relative surge. It's enormous at our southern border by any standard,
but as a as a percentage a dramatic increase because
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people realize that the Bid administration is not going to
do anything about about any of this. Yeah, there's a
there's a story buck to speak of this. Do you
know how many Russians have come across our southern border?
A bunch thirty five thousand Russians have traveled to the
southern border, because I know this because there was a
(01:51):
story and it's interesting you mentioned the northern border. There
was a story in the New York Times Sunday edition
about two Russians who came in through a Alaska. They
went to the one of the small island outposts of
the United States. They fled from Russia and haven't claimed asylum.
But the story was about the number of Russians who
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have entered into the country and claimed asylum because of
the war that's going on, and the New York Times
number I believe thirty five thousand coming across the southern border,
which was a staggering number to me. I know, we've
talked about how many different countries people are coming to
Mexico and just deciding to walk across the southern border
and claim asylum. Thirty five thousand Russians was a jaw
(02:35):
dropping number to me, and they just fly to Mexico
basically and then walk right across the border. Since we're
talking jaw dropping numbers, five million immigrants illegal immigrants have
entered the United States since January of twenty twenty one,
when Joe Biden took over five five million in two years. Okay,
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as we're looking at the data. Now we're looking at
the numbers, how much more open could the border be?
And you'll notice the Biden administration doesn't feel any urgency
on this issue. Isn't going to do anything other than
every time they say they're going to surge resources, particularly
at our southern border, every time they claim that they're
(03:22):
paying attention to it, it's just to add processing so
that people can be more easily and readily let into
the United States. Think about it this way, everyone, they're
all saying, clay that they're asylum seekers. This is how
they gain This is the giant gaping hole in our
system that has been exploited, and it's really it's really immoral.
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I mean, I will say that this idea that you
can lie about being persecuted from your home country so
you can skip to the front of the immigration line,
there are people for whom getting asylum is a life
and death issue. These are not individuals. Ninety nine percent
of them more than that are not actually asylum seekers.
And the data bears all this out. The actual numbers
(04:04):
about who is going to get asylum. You know, maybe
one in ten will get some form of status given
to them, and that's probably high. But Clay, you have
to wonder, at what point does the Biden administration recognize
that this is unsustainable? If we're going to pretend to
even have a border, why even go through the motions? Buck,
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And I'm glad you brought up that five million number
because I was thinking about this the other day. You
think about numbers and sometimes you don't contextualize them, and
I know I do this sometimes too. Let me give
you a context for what five million means in a
way that I think a lot of people out there
could understand. Basically, since Joe Biden became president, the entire
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state of South Carolina we have added in population. So
if you have ever been to the state of South Carolina,
about five point two million people every single person in
South Carolina right now is how many people walked across
the border Alabama five million people. More people have come
into this country illegally under Joe Biden than live in Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Utah, Iowa,
(05:16):
a lot more Nevada, Arkansas, Mississippi. I mean, think about
when you talk about five million people, you're talking about
the entire state of Alabama or South Carolina and populations
that are more substantial than over basically half of the
populations in the United States right now. That's crazy to
(05:37):
think about. This is all on the premise because what
the activists and the you know, the left wing will
say is they're allowed to be here. They're seeking legal
status through the asylum system. How long does anyone think
it would take to process millions of asylum claims in
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any sort of real way, meaning you're gonna figure out
who this person is, have them prove their story, you know,
give them their their day in court over asylum. The
way the increasingly, I think the way the Biden administration
is going to push for amnesty is a backdoor amnesty
(06:18):
where they're just going to try to make it so
that they what's going on the border is the credible
fear test that border patrol and immigration the Customs Enforcement
do where you have to say very very minimal things
to be oh, I'm now seeking defensive asylum in the US.
They've decided that they're not going to detain people, which
is against the law, by the way, but they don't care,
(06:39):
and they let them into the country. Clay if they
make it super easy to effectively get a rubber stamp
asylum claim done, that's a test. That's a switch that
they could have just from the system without necessarily getting
any change in legislation. I think that's something they're hoping
to accomplish because the Republicans in the House, I don't
believe will go along with a mass amnesty through legislation.
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So there they've exploited the holes in the system to
let them in, to let them all stay indefinitely. I
think they're going to do the same thing. Obama administration
essentially did a version of this, but they weren't doing
it through the immigration courts. They were doing it by
just they were going to hand out IDs and work
visas to everybody who was coming in who was the
family member of a DACA recipient. I think it was
(07:26):
it was it was DACA and DAPPA deferred action for
childhood rivals, deferred action for the parents of arrivals. It
was gonna be like seven million people something like that
that they was going to give them. So this is
what we're heading toward five million people. How could you
even process that if you wanted to? I just think
again to contextualize, over half of American states have a
(07:47):
population that is smaller than that number basically, So if
you think about it from an Alabama or South Carolina perspective,
and remember it's going to grow, it'll move into during
this Biden administration next two years, it will move into
you know, probably a top ten, top twelve, top fourteen
state population where wherever you're listening to us right now,
(08:10):
during Joe Biden's tenure, your state population, there's a good
chance around twenty five states have five million people. Five
point two million people are fewer. That contextualizes it. And
you know a state like Wyoming buck has six hundred
thousand people, so you basically have had ten Wyomings enter
since Joe Biden became president. And if you're wondering, you
(08:34):
know the remember the old the old storyline we used
to hear about illegal immigrants was always they do the jobs,
Americans won't do they contribute to the economy, They're gonna
save Social Security. These are all these are all the
old Democrat talking foods. Meanwhile, you speak to Eric Adams
or any large city mayor right now with the influx
of migrants they have, and what do they all say.
We can't afford this. We can't afford to pay for
(08:57):
the housing, the food, effectively the room and board of
these different of these these migrant groups. And so that's
why we mentioned this in the last hour. In Hell's Kitchen,
New York City, they have a hotel where there are
migrants who have been housed and they are refusing. This
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is on West fifty seventh Street, the Watson Hotel. The
migrants were told Clay they should move to the Brooklyn
Cruise Ship Terminal where they've set up a facility for migrants,
and they're protesting outside the hotel where they're staying at
tax payer expense, saying, now we like the four star hotel.
I think we're gonna stay here. We don't want to
go to the other place. That's I'm just that this
(09:40):
is the mentality everybody. This is what's going on, and
you are paying for it. If you wonder why people
are coming, Imagine that you are living incredibly poor in
Latin America and one of your friends or family members
texts you and says, hey, I'm in New York City now,
right off Times Square in a four star hotel. I
(10:05):
got cable, I got you know, heating air, great bathroom.
This is how rich the United States is. They're just
putting us up in hotels that are probably nicer than
almost any hotels that exist in many of the countries
where these guys are coming from. Do you think that's
gonna persuade you that you shouldn't come, or you're gonna
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be like, this is amazing. And remember they also probably
got a free bus ride to New York City from
Texas too. Right on top of everything else, you came
across illegally and you say, Okay, where would you like
to go? And you're like New York City and you
get popped on a bus. Next thing you know, you're
in New York City staying in a four star hotel
I get. I just questioned how many people in in
(10:48):
our listening audience have ever gotten to stay in a
four star hotel in Manhattan, much less our taxpayers paying
for it. It's crazy. I'm an American citizen and a
five showed up to a four star hotel, and I've
been paying taxes for time, haven't gotten very much for it.
If I showed up at a four star hotel and
said I I'm going to stay here for free and
have people bring me food for free and I get
(11:10):
to do whatever I want and this is now my home,
I assume hotel management would call the police and I
would be arrested right like that. That would just be
my my assumption. Now, I know they've been told by
the government authorities that they can stay here, but now
they're being told you gotta go, and they're saying, no, no,
we're gonna We're gonna actually try to just stay here
at taxpayer expense. It's hundreds of millions of dollars, everybody,
(11:31):
can I also just put that out there, This is
not a small amount of money that the City of
New York is spending to houses migrants. And this is
why it was only that one time. But when the
migrants were were dropped off in Martha's vineyard. Martha's Vineyard, Yeah,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Nantucket. Oh my gosh, the vineyard.
People are like, how dare you it was Nantucket, wasn't it.
(11:53):
I think it was Martha's vineyard. Oh the vineyard. It
was first time, yeah, yes, okay. So when they were
dropped off on one of those fancy islands, um it was.
It showed you what's really going on. It showed you
fifty people as all it took. Um. Yeah, that's that's
all it took. It's it's amazing that this is what
ended up happening. So I I just I can't get
(12:17):
over buck. I mean again, for anybody out there who's
who's listening to us, four star hotel in the heart
of Manhattan, Your taxpayer dollars are going to put illegal
immigrants in four star hotels in the heart of Manhattan.
And I just what percentage of you listening to us
right now could afford to go on a vacation right
(12:39):
now and stay in a four star hotel in the
heart of Manhattan. I bet not a huge percentage, right,
take your whole family travel there. You'd have to pay
for all of it. Illegal immigrants are doing it on
your taxpayer dollars. I just want what's the and what
is the expect these these are people who are really
(13:00):
not supposed to be in the country at all. Yes,
And can they live in this? Can they live in
a taxpayer expense for two years? For five years? You know,
how long did they get They put up in this
hotel for how long? Are a taxpayers on the hook
for this? It's amazing the Democrats are doing. They're protesting
because they don't want it to add But think about
what the incentive structure you are sending for people in
(13:22):
poor countries who hear that this is what happens when
you come to America. Wouldn't you travel if you had
an awful existence in a Latin American country and you
heard you could stay in a four star hotel in
New York City. I mean, the incentive structure is completely broken.
If I were a New Yorker who had been evicted
from my house or you know, my home in the
last six months, I would be really really angry because
(13:44):
you know, you didn't pay the bank, so you have
to go. But other people are getting free housing at
taxpayer for what on what basis they're not even supposed
to be in the country. Yeah, that's a great question.
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Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck. I was
just reading this. One benefit there are relatively few from
Donald Trump not being in office. Is that CNN. I
think even Trump himself has said this. CNN has completely collapsed.
(15:58):
CNN just posted its lowest ratings in nine years, going
all the way back to twenty fourteen, before the idea
of Donald Trump ever being a political candidate. And one
of the fascinating things about the collapse of CNN And
but you saw it from the inside, because before CNN
(16:19):
lost its mind, you are actually a contributor there. When
you see that they are setting nine year failure records,
what do they do now? Like, how do you solve
CNN in any way? It is one of the most
spectacular media meltdowns I've ever seen, and it occurred. Really,
(16:43):
the transition happened when I was there, because I was
there for a couple of years, and so the first
year was pre Trump, and then the second year was
in the Republican primary, and Trump came to the forefront,
and the place just became unhinged. I mean you, there
was nothing that was too crazy that could be said
about Trump. The entire institution was trained effectively to despise
(17:07):
anyone who was speaking on behalf of Trump, and it
was obvious that at some point they were just gonna
drive the planet into a cliff, and they did. I mean,
this is there's no part of CNN's collapse that is
surprised that anybody who saw it was happening. It was
disgraceful what they did there. I mean because remember they
weren't an opinion channel, Clay, they were straight news. They
(17:30):
were still saying that while Donald Trump was in office. Well,
they destroyed their brand. And I would argue that the
greatest moment in CNN's history, and I bet a lot
of you will remember this was the initial Gulf War
that we fought. When Bernard Shaw's in the hotel room
and everyone turned on CNN to watch a televised war effectively.
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And what they did during the Trump era is they
effectively destroyed the entire CNN brand. I don't know how
they bring it back. I really don't. It's a fascinating question.
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back to play Anne Buck. We have been told a
lot of things about the war in Ukraine the last
year or so, and there has been obviously a celebrity
component of all of this. You had famous Hollywood actors
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Ben Stiller and Sean Penn, among others, go over to
visit with Zelenski. He has spoken via did did he speak?
It was it the oscars or the what was the
didn't he speak? It's that's happening soon, right, I think? Yeah, yeah,
So so whenever you're having when big important international people, uh,
(19:43):
you know, international event happens, Davos, whatever you gotta, you
gotta pipe in Zelenski via Skype wearing the T shirt,
the whole thing he spoke to Uh, he spoke to
our Congress, you remember, and in the obviously recently the
Biden minis ration invited him. And this has become we're
(20:04):
supposed to believe a cause of righteousness. That also is
something that we should be very invested, literally quite invested in.
As we are paying the bills here, you are paying
the bills to the tune of one hundred billion dollars
for this year. Right now, we're having a conversation in
this country about thirty one trillion dollars of debt. The
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national debt is quite high, I think by anyone standard,
thirty one trillion dollars a lot of money. We're sending
one hundred billion dollars to Ukraine. We're told that this
is a good investment. This is something that we both
are morally obligated to do and strategically benefit from. That
is the consensus position of the foreign policy elites, whatever
(20:49):
you think of them, the Biden administration, a lot of
Republicans too, There are a lot of Republicans are on
board for this. I'm just going to point out that
right now there are some people who are whisper and
increasingly I think, going to start shouting that Russia is
planning a massive offensive with new conscripts. This is a
(21:10):
war unlike any of the US has fought in recent decades.
This is this is tanks against tanks, This is dug
in fighting positions, advanced militaries slugging it out, and the
Russian escalation clay is already leading to Zelenski demanding faster provision.
(21:30):
It's not even enough to get him all the munitions
and pay all the bills. We have to get him
faster stuff. We're sending Abrams tanks as we know, the
Germans are sending Leopard tanks. Now there's conversation ongoing about
an even more advanced weapons missile system that we could
send to Ukraine to extend their range of being able
(21:52):
to hit the Russians. We're back to the when are
we going to start providing planes? And here's the problem.
A lot of military analysts in Clay are starting to
see that there is there doesn't There is no reality
of Ukraine defeating Russia in any short period of time.
That doesn't seem possible or plausible at all. So are
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we just going to commit to sending never mind the
possibility of escalation and what could happen if that. It
feels like we're not even supposed to talk about that.
But one hundred billion dollars a year. Should the American
people pay one hundred billion dollars a year for Ukraine
to fight Russia for the next five years? Is that
a good usage of American treasure? I would argue no,
particularly because, as you mentioned, we're now over thirty one
(22:37):
trillion dollars in debt, and the debt interest alone is
continuing to eat up a higher and higher percentage of
that which we are going to be obligated to pay.
But also with the now adding tanks, the next step
will be, well, should we bring in some old aircraft?
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It seems to me like we are continuing to tiptoe
into an escalating conflict. And you know, the idea last
year at this time, I'd bet buck if you had
floated the idea, hey, we need to send as many
tanks as we can to Ukraine, I think most people
would have set out, that's a little bit too much.
(23:20):
And now we're sending tanks and there doesn't even hardly
seem to be a debate at all about whether that's
appropriate or whether it further embeds US in this battle.
And I would just point out that American responses, very
often to foreign interests are based on the idea of, hey,
(23:43):
they sent the weapons that they are using to kill us. Right.
One of the reasons we took out Solomoni was because
he was involved in helping to provide the material to
allow the wounding, maiming and killing of American troops, So
you are thinking about from the Russian perspective, would you
be like, Oh, those aren't Americans in the tanks, those
(24:06):
are just American tanks. Would that distinction really start to
matter to you? Or if you're Russia, are you like, Oh,
America's now in this war against us and that next
step of adding planes. At some point the materials are
substantial enough that you have to almost consider yourself to
be an enemy combatant. And we should probably think about
(24:27):
that before we find out the hard way what that
red line debate about the tanks? Buck? Have you seen
anybody say, Hey, I don't know that's a that's an escalation.
I don't know that we need to take that step.
And the fact that we've gone from we're just going
to provide certain things, and there'll be limitations on it too.
Now we're sending Abrams tanks, and we might be sending
(24:50):
even more advanced self propelled our artillery and missile systems.
At what point are we just gonna say, you know what,
We're gonna give them planes? Would give them everything so
that they can defeat Russia. The interest here in defeating
Russia and Ukraine? Is it open checkbook time? Is it endless?
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Is there any is there any point at which the
people that think that we should be provided. Look, Pompeo
was on the show last week and he said, give
them anything they want, anything they need to defeat Russia.
That seems kind of extreme to be Is this really
that important to the United States? And also, how does
this all look. Let's say we do go into and
I get all the emails people say we're already in
(25:31):
a recession. Weren't in enough of a recession to get
the Democrats crushed in the midterms, folks, So you know,
if we're in a recession, it hasn't really hasn't really
bitten all that hard quite yet. But let's say we
go into a depression or a major recession. Are we
gonna want to fund one hundred billion dollars a year
for the war in Ukraine? Is that something that people
(25:52):
are going to want to continue to do. I have
to say, you know, there's not really much communication about this,
and people that say we have an interest it's an
investment in our future to keep hearing that an investment
in our security. I don't think whoever controls Eastern Ukraine
matters to me in my life. And I'm a little
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bit concerned here that we just went through a couple
of wars, Clay, where you weren't allowed to ever really
be the one standing up and saying, hey, what are
we really trying to accomplish here? Now? Like? What is
the actual goal? Because anybody who knew anything about Afghanistan
knew that it was going to end more or less
the way it ended, minus the way the Biden administration
(26:34):
did it, but that it was heading in that direction.
That's been the case for fifteen years. Not only that, Buck,
what about the expense involved if China does decide to
invade Taiwan? Because I'm sure you saw the American general
over the weekend that's got a lot of attention. He
had sent a memo basically to all of his troops saying,
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I think that China's going to invade Taiwan in twenty
twenty five. Now, whether or not that ends up being true,
we know that we would then, I think more so
than with Russia, because I think China is a bigger
threat to US than Russia is. But are we going
to spend hundreds of billions of dollars also simultaneously defending
Taiwan from Chinese aggression? Are we going to end up
(27:19):
in a situation? And I can understand the argument of well,
what's going on in Ukraine shows that we will stand
in defense of Taiwan, But can we afford to do both?
I don't hear anybody hardly asking that question. But if
we're spending one hundred billion dollars plus and it's a
never ending checkbook of essentially a ground ward that is
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that is building its own Magino line, it almost feels
like right where you're just embedded there and neither side
can move that much. Are we going to invest tens
of billions of dollars on an annuity basis for Ukraine
while simultaneously potentially having to do the same thing in Taiwan?
And can we afford to do both given to where
our budget situations are right now? It's a real honest
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adult questions that are should be asked, that are being
asked by very many people. I think there's very little
discussion about what the Biden administration is seeking to achieve,
because anyone who's paying attention to Ukraine right now would say,
it doesn't look like we will be able to support
a Ukrainian breakthrough and expulsion of Russian forces in the
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next year and perhaps for years. Yes, So this this
thing of oh, if we just keep giving them stuff,
they'll do the fighting. Okay, five years, how long do
we Because the Russian the Russian Federation, as much as
we were led to believe we're going to cripple them
with our sanctions, it was all lies, crap, nonsense. The
Russian Federation is huge, has a lot of people, and
(28:49):
is not going to stop. So I don't know. I
feel like maybe maybe the Biden administration, the people that
are involved in this calling the shots, they're not very
smart on anything else. I would I assume they're smart
on this. I was approaching from that perspective. I think
it's a fantastic question. And again, in the context of
what might happen in Taiwan in the wake of what
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this American general is saying, are we able to have
effectively a two fronted war. Maybe we're going to be
directly involved in Taiwan, and that's going to be different.
But it seems like a huge mess, and it certainly
is a massive expenditure that doesn't appear to be ending
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back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Donald Trump was
back on the road, both in New Hampshire and in
South Carolina. Really, I would say the first substantial I'm
running for president moves for Trump Since he announced the
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week after the mid terms, he hadn't really been on
the road very much. South Carolina early primary. We've talked
about that could be a battleground state. Certainly New Hampshire
will be both a battleground state and an early primary.
And Trump, well, he was talking about as only he can,
the Hunter Biden Joe Biden laptop. Listen, we have a president.
(31:42):
His son's laptop from Hill gets taken over and exposes
massive corruption like nobody's ever seen before. Do you think
the father do you ever hear this? Do you think
the father was upset? Dad? I left my laptop in
a repair shop. I forgot to pick it up, and
this repair guy went a little crazy when he saw,
(32:02):
Well what was on it? What's on it's son, every
crime that you've ever committed. But at what point does
the father get angry? You know, like this kid is
not working out well for me. It's actually pretty funny. Again.
Trump's humor, I think is by far the most underrated
(32:24):
aspect of his entire political personae. He is very full
as you know, Buck just don't get it. They don't
really get the entertainment aspect of him. But he's making
an important point there. Well, yes, and it's such an
interesting reminder that Hunter Biden left his laptop. I mean,
what are the things that you could possibly leave in
(32:44):
a place that you know you would never forget about? Wallet? Phone, yeah, laptop,
I mean those are you know, whatever I'm going anywhere,
traveling anywhere, as long as I have my wallet on
my phone, my laptop and everything else, I'll have Amazon
delivered like I don't really care. Yeah, figure it out.
But those are the things that you obviously need to
keep keep an eye on and keep track of and
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the fact that he just left it behind and left
it beyond the time period in which it becomes property
of the you know, the repair shop John Paul mciaac,
the guy in the repair shop in Delaware Buck. If
he hadn't made a copy of it, I think this
is important. I had this conversation with Miranda Divine. It's
up in the podcast in the podcast role at Clay
(33:28):
and Buck. We would have never known this laptop existed
because remember, the FBI's had it for over three years, now, right,
They got it in December of twenty nineteen, if I
remember correctly, and now we're sitting here in twenty twenty three.
If he hadn't made a copy of everything on that
laptop and retained it, I don't think the FBI would
have ever acknowledged that they had this laptop at all.
(33:50):
Certainly they haven't done anything with it yet. Where is it,
We don't even know. I think they would have destroyed it,
and I think they would have claimed they never had
it and they did a desearch and research on it
and it wasn't actually Hunter Bidens. I still don't understand
not to just jump around to topics. I still don't
understand how all these individuals had You know, the only
(34:12):
one that makes sense to me is Trump, because Trump
his team took you know, he took the stuff, stored
it and said, I was a president, I'm taking this stuff.
It's mine. Yeah, that I can understand you doing. But
the other stuff with Biden, and yes, with Pence, who
is now having to do the whole maya culpa thing,
he's like, you know, oh, actually we have audio of
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him saying this thing. Right, Pence is saying, I'm totally
responsible for this play it. I think, oh, I thought
we had it. My bad. I was of the mind
that we had something along those laves sixteen sixteen. There
we go. Those classified documents should not have been in
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my personal residence. Mistakes were made, and I take full responsibility,
and I directed my counsel to work with the National Archives,
with the Department of Justice, and with the Congress to
fully cooperate in any investigation. I mean they say fully cooperate.
They're all gonna skate. None of them are gonna get
in trouble. And people that have worked at the national
(35:17):
security side, we'll all say, you know, I wouldn't just
get get to skate on this one, but they'll they'll
all skate. I just think it's it's remarkable they didn't
just destroy the stuff. Like I keep coming back to this.
You know, you find this stuff, you throw it in
the fireplace, you don't call the National Archives. So we
gotta call last week from a listener that I thought
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was really good, and I went and did research on
it because I was like, how many classified documents are there?
Because his question was one that I think a lot
of you out there might in the back of your
mind have, which is, if something's missing from the classified documents,
how would there be no one who knew that it
was missing? Buck The number of classified documents fifty million
(36:03):
of them right now in the United States, fifty million.
So if you're out there and you're like, wouldn't they
know if there were six pages of classified documents missing, No,
it's the government fifty million classified document designations. Yeah, that's crazy.
I knew it was a lot, but when I saw
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fifty million, I was like, that is unprecedented amount of
classified documents. So they don't know where it all is,
that's for sure. We come back we got some good
audio far I'm gonna play this for Buck, the Mayor
of Cincinnati. I'm sorry for those of you in Cincinnati.
I think we're number one in the city right now
because you lost last night in the AFC Championship play.
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The Mayor of Cincinnati, Buck has not heard this, gave
a proclamation that is one of the most ridiculous that
has everybody furious at him in the city of Cincinnati.
If you haven't heard it, you're gonna love it. I'm
gonna play it for Anax. This play by
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